No Jumper - Casey Veggies on The Origins of Odd Future, Anwar Carrots Beef & More

Episode Date: April 25, 2022

Casey Veggies sits down with his good friend T-Rell to talk about his new endeavors, share legendary stories about Jay-Z, Travis Scott, Mac Miller, Kanye and breaks down the mark he left with his past... music in the Los Angeles rap landscape. https://www.instagram.com/caseyveggies/ https://www.instagram.com/_kingtrell/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, y'all, man. Y'all back with T-Rail, man. I got a special guest here with me. I got my boy Casey Veggie's in here, man. Yes, sir. This really, really is special, man. I consider you definitely a Los Angeles icon, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:00:16 A landmark in the game out here. A lot of people respect you. A lot of people still love you. Appreciate that. Talk about it all the time. And I'm just happy to have you here. You feel me? I'm happy to have you here.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Still doing your thing. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. I love it, man. It's an honor to be here. You already know, man. You reached out. I was like, yeah, it's finally that time.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I told everybody, I said, trail hit me up. It's time to do the no-jumper interview. Talks some shit, you know what I'm saying? It's been a couple years. And I reach out to, you know, I reach out to people. I feel like, you know, I can have a conversation with or I can speak to or, you know, at least something that I can have, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:53 got a little bit in some substance. Yeah, it's some substance. We got something to talk about. We got something to talk about. I can ask you a couple of times. There's a lot of speculations going on. Yeah. We can get into it.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Because if he's speculations at this table, this table is crazy. No, I'll be hearing my name getting brought up, man. Oh, your name was getting brought up for sure at this table, for sure at this table, man. No, that's hard good. But what's up, man? How you been, man? Just cooling, man, just working, staying busy, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, I'm still out here, still going crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. Yeah, I'm just ready to keep making history, for real. Keep pushing the culture forward, you know, like inspiring the youth, inspiring the young, the youngest out there grinding to, you know, to want to do something different and want to be creative and push the whole generation for it. Yeah, you've been doing this for a long time, man, and it's just like you started at a very early age. And I really love your story.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I really love, like, what you had going on, what you was doing before rap, you know what I'm saying? And even while rapping, you know, as a young and you feel me like doing your thing like playing sports and school. You feel on me like all while rapping, traveling and doing that shit is like, but you know, one thing I like when I bring people here, you know what I'm saying, just like you, like you was talking about substance. I like when you're going through that L.A. shit and you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:02:25 you skip the game banging thing. You know what I'm saying? like it skipped over you like somehow you say you know what I'm gonna have enough courage I'm gonna have enough heart you feel I'm gonna be thinking for myself I'm not gonna do this shit man you know I'm saying that's 100 that you took notice because a lot of people they'd be holland-a-noty they'd be like man Casey cool he'd be on some good vibes good energy like he'd do music you know he ain't on that negative like energy but you know I didn't been around it you know it's all around me and they'd be like how did you not end up you know saying taking that route but
Starting point is 00:02:57 And luckily I was playing sports, like you said, you figure me, I was just doing music, like skateboarding. I linked up with Tyler the creator, and we was like 15. And we were just on a different wave, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, I respect everybody that had to do what they had to do to, you know what I'm saying, to grow up and come up in the city however they had to. Some people was born into it and they had no choice. You know what I'm saying? So me, I had a choice. So I just decided to, you know, take the more positive route, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Because you had good parents, though and shit like that, you feel? Mom, great parents, everybody had a, you know, great profession, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would want to ask you, too, I'm like, one reason why his ass probably didn't gain me because his daddy was a cop. Yeah, my dad was a cop when I was young, too, when I was like, then when I was like two years old, three years old, four years old, then by the time I was five, six, he was already over, like, done with it. He been, he went through a lot with that. By the time I'm like, six, seven, he was a bodyguard for Jay Z for Shug Night. Knives, Tupac, he did bodyguard work for all these legends, you feel me? So it's crazy, it's the whole story.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I got hit by a car when I was seven years old in Inglewood, California, like in front of my old apartment building. When I got hit by the car, my dad, I think I told this story, maybe on no jumper once or maybe, but he was literally in the car with Jay-Z when I got hit. So in the limo, they was in Hollywood. So he had to jump out the car, rushed to the hospital when I was just, I was a young year, you know what I'm saying, running. right home from the liquor store. How was that, though, living with pops and mom? Like, what kind of structure was that, like, living in there, like, with a cop? Was he like, ugh, a nigga just really on you or what?
Starting point is 00:04:38 I was young. Like, when my mom and my pops lived together, they only lived together until I was, like, five. By the time I'm, like, six, I'm already living with moms. But I was still going to the pop's house all the time. Like, I didn't live with my dad, but he was in my life, like, all the time. You feel? Taking me to practice, school, all that. But I lived with my mom.
Starting point is 00:04:57 moms. So that's where I got hit by the car at when I was walking for mom's crib. Yeah. Yeah. Pops was doing his own thing at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, man, you was doing your thing, man. I want to start really here, man, and was something that really bothered me in Los Angeles. And you got this little narrative over your head that our future kicked your ass out the group. And I'm like, yeah, like, yeah, like, yeah. It's all type of narrative going on. Yeah, me, yeah. Like, the whole, all the nitty. All the has kicked you out. You know what I'm saying? I'm like I don't want my boy to have I want that shit to be cut right here right now and you know what I'm saying and that thing is no like that ain't
Starting point is 00:05:37 how I went and Todd didn't really do you like that man. Me and Tyler we still you know we still locked in like tighter on his own wave right now and I respect it I love what he's doing but when we started here we was a family like a brotherhood it wasn't even a group yet it was just like homies doing music together he like bro I got this idea I future magazine man I want to do music and, you know, turning into something. It ended up turning into a real group, and it blew up. And I salute the whole vision. I have my own brand called Peas and Careers International.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Keep in mind, I grew up in Englewood. You know, I went to Crenshaw, how I got people on this side of the city. Then I got my skateboarder homies on this side of the city and, like, all my people that's in the street wear. So I'm, like, double-sided when it comes to all that. So it came to a point where I was playing basketball and I was doing my thing. So I wasn't kicking it with our future all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You know, I have my own, you know what I'm saying, schedule, but what I was doing when I was younger. So people start feeling like it was a disconnect in between this. But at the same time, Tyler asked me, like, bro, you want to be, when he first started blowing up with the first single, like, Tyler was asking me, and even Haji Beach reached out to me. He like, you want to be down with the, our future steer or how you want to do it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Like, they gave me an option if I wanted to, like, still be down. Talk about that, because, you know, a lot of people and a lot of kids, you don't feel like, oh, you laugh or, you know, niggas was big head or these niggins kicked you out. You know what I'm saying? You got to let motherfuckers now. I'm still on his, like, two of his projects after he blew up. So it's like if I just left and it was a disconnect,
Starting point is 00:07:10 we wouldn't even be doing music after he got signed. You feel what I'm saying? We still kept doing music. You know what I'm going to, me and Earl Sweat shirt just got a gold plaque together. A lot of people might not know that, but me, Earl and Vince Staples got a song called High. It just got certified gold. you know, I got real accolades with our future, and I appreciate them for, you know, all the, all the camaraderie we built, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Even though it's been like times where it's seen like we don't talk, which we don't, everybody be on their own lifestyle, own thing. But just you being you, you know what I'm saying, you got a living grow, like you got classics under your name, I say, you got about two classes, you got living girl, you got sleeping class. Like you got, like, these are two like staples, like in Los Angeles. If I ask any of these life changes here, yeah. Yeah, even at that age, when I went back and listened to it, and I was like, damn. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:08:03 You rapping like that or whatever? And I can see why. Jayce even wanted to go, you know, meet with you or whatever the case may be. But a lot of people will forget, you feel me? And you got people like this young thing here named Dejani came in here with that report card. And he was tearing your ass up.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He was talking shit. But he was on Twitter. He was on Twitter. Twitter in here, though. He was tearing your ass up, so I need to know. Yeah, he was, you know what I'm saying? You can only get so much off on Twitter. You can only get so much out.
Starting point is 00:08:36 No, I can tell you what really happened, though. And I don't even, I'm not even mad. Like, you know what I'm saying? I ain't no mad rapper, like, running around trying to fight the bloggers and shit. Like, that ain't even my style. You feel what I'm saying? Like, it's all love. Like, he's doing his job.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I'm doing my job. But really what happened was he reached out to me to do a cover shoot for his magazine. And what happened was I was running around, had a lot going on probably that day. We scheduled it for one day and reschedule it for another day. I don't remember how it all, like, rolled out. But long story short, that day that I was supposed to pull up for the photo shoot, it literally slipped my mind. Like, you know how you got a thousand things you think about, you worry about rollouts and studio sessions, everything else. It literally slipped my mind to pull up.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And I felt bad. The next day, I think I realized I missed it. I think bro was already like off me. You know what I'm saying? So I go on Twitter like a week later And not even realizing he was mad, I'm thinking like, I'm thinking we was gonna reschedule the interview. You know what I'm just like regular human shit?
Starting point is 00:09:33 We're just gonna reschedule, bro, it was a mistake. He really took offense to me missing his, missing the shoot, which I understand. He'd take his blog series. I take what I do serious. You feel what I'm saying? But it's like, don't go on the, I said go on Twitter. You were just reaching out to me like, we homies, I'm a fan, bro, I fuck with you. I grew up in Englewood.
Starting point is 00:09:51 He'd come to find out he went to Englewood. He was talking about, I was talking about, Casey in the special leg club. I'm like, shit. He's saying this. When that thing hit you with this, you were in, I fell on the floor. I'm like, bro. Are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:10:05 I'm like, I'm a honor roll student, bro. I got accepted to five colleges, bro. Are you crazy? I had a four point, there are a 4.0 GPA, like everything is A1. That thing is outside the bungalows, man. That nigga had me crying. He don't know. I was a TA.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I was a TA for Ms. Quinn class. I think, I think she was. She might have taught special ed. I was her assistant. So I'm like, maybe he just think he's funny. But he was spying on me, bro. When I'm in high school. I don't even remember him.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I don't know. I don't really remember him from high school. He said he knows me from high school. I'm like, bro. But at the same time, it's all love. But what I was telling you is, he got mad about me missing an interview. I go on Twitter, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He's sneak dishing me to a fan on Twitter. So that's when I hit him. I'm like, man, I'm tired of, like, niggas. I'm going to get at you. Yeah, I'm going to get back at you. You know, you talk to shit. on Twitter about sneakdishing me, but you was just trying to interview me
Starting point is 00:10:58 and do a photo shoot with me for your cover shoot. So what part of the game is that? You don't add up. I just don't like it when people in the industry not genuine. I've been doing this so long. So when people are not genuine, it just strikes a certain nerve.
Starting point is 00:11:11 But at the same time, I didn't take no offense. Like, bro, just, you know, he did what he did. And then when he put out a report card, he gave me a good grade. So I'm like, it's back. Like, he respect what I'm doing. He needs that cover shoot, you feel me? He wanted the cover shoot.
Starting point is 00:11:24 I mean, we can still do the cover suit. You need that cover shoot for you. Look, bro, we can still do the cover suit. Yeah. It ain't no hard feelings, bro. Reach out to me. I can turn your blog up. You can help turn me up.
Starting point is 00:11:35 We can do some cross promo. It ain't know. It's all good. Man, you know, and I love the love y'all had between you and Dom and Nip and, like, you know, the love and the camaraderie. You guys always show each other, man. I love that, you know what I'm saying, that Dom will always be reaching out and doing shit with you.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, that shit is love. It's like a real, yeah, I'm listening. No, yeah, but how do you meet them, niggas? Man, when I was like 15, 16, just being a young nigga in the city, like, I want to do music. Like, I decided I wanted to do music and I just started reaching out to niggas. I found out about Dom on MySpace. Yeah. Like, who is this, like, Limer Park?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Like, I'm listening to his music. I'm like, this nigga cover art hard. I'm like, this nigga got some sauce going on over there. I'm like, what's so? I was a fan of bro music before I met him. Then we reached out. He started hearing about my music. I started going crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I dropped my first tape, and I started putting my music in people's faces, like running around the city, dropping off CDs here, dropping off shit there. So I single-handedly, at 15 years old, got these niggas attention. Like, one day my brother reminded me, Nipsey was driving down the street off Libreya,
Starting point is 00:12:44 and we flagged him down. He was in the two-door bins. Me and my brother was walking home. Was it gray? Like the gray one, the silver one. Yeah, he in the silver joint. I got my CD. And we were like,
Starting point is 00:12:53 My brother, like, yeah, this Casey Vage. My brother rap, but he's like, yeah. He's like, I heard about, he's like, bro. Actually, I heard about you on the net, bro, blah, blah, blah. So when I was 15 dropping my first tapes, bro, was catching wind of it. So before I even met Nip, he heard about me on the internet. And then I was just the young thing in the city
Starting point is 00:13:10 that was killing the music shit. So they all like, kind of like, you know, brought me in and it was showing me mad love. And then me and Dom started doing music. Once we did CDC, did that song, CDC, hit boy and the rest was history like the whole city knew what time it was after that hey, Cah you went on tour
Starting point is 00:13:29 long time ago, you brought Travis Scott I don't know if niggas ever knows that said Travis Scott opened up for you I don't know how close y'all was I don't know what the deal was but this nigga opened up for you but one particular show this nigga brings out Kanye West scuh yeah like
Starting point is 00:13:47 how the fuck that make you feel how the fuck you go like come out after that? It was legendary Were you sitting there watching that shit, dude? I remember that night, like, before the show, it was the PNC. It was called the PNCXT tour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So that was me and Travis just, like, joining Worlds. Shout out Sycamore, because Sycamore introduced me and Travis in New York. He brought him to my hotel room. He like, I got this new producer, bro. He signed to Kanye. He's like, I want you to meet him and rock with him, you know what I'm saying? So boom, I met Travis in New York at the Yotel.
Starting point is 00:14:19 We came back to L.A. Travis came to L.A. And we just was rocking with each other. Like, you know, we performing, we doing songs together. I go to New York, we did a song called Up. That was one of Travis' first songs he ever released. We started going crazy, and we did a tour together, A-City tour, like a West Coast run.
Starting point is 00:14:35 We just introduced him bro to the West Coast market, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is his first run in the West Coast. Like, he getting his feet wet. You know, he's from Texas. He was already killing shit. They already knew about him in Texas, but on the West Coast he was still, like, new, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:48 So we brought him on an A-City run, and we went crazy. Like, we got a whole vlog on YouTube. part the PNCXTor vlog series. People don't even know but this shit got it got views but like
Starting point is 00:14:59 people can go back and look at that shit bro, you know what I'm saying? Go back and look at that vlog No, that was legendary like I got a lot of respect for Travis, you know, we did a lot of crazy shit together
Starting point is 00:15:08 like, you know what I'm saying in the beginning of our careers you know, I saw a lot of upside and bro as well a lot of potential. So one day he's like, yeah bro I'm bringing Kanye to the LH show I'm like you line,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you ain't bringing a Kanye to the LHs so like I just brushed it off You feel, we backstage chop it up. And then next you know, we get to the L.A. show, L. Rae Theater. This is the last show on the tour. Sold out. The whole tour was down there sold out. Like, this young thing is doing, like, young niggas, we was on some legendary shit.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But the whole tour was sold out. Next thing, you know, I'm backstage getting ready to do my show. Keep in mind, Kanye, my favorite rapper, bro. Like, you feel me? I'm 18. I'm 18. I'm like 20 years old at the time, 19, 20. And Kanye, my favorite artist.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So, keep it. This shit was, like, surreal, bro. It was like unreal experience. I literally felt like, after that show, I felt like, I made it down there. You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, what happened was, Bro came out first.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He brought out, yeah, the crowd went crazy. Next to you know, I got to close the show out. So I'm thinking, how in the world am I performing after my favorite rapper, after Kanye West? You had to close that shit out, dog. So I come out and keep in mind, Kanye stayed. He's in the back watching me about to come out. on stage bro so this is like the craziest feeling i'm like this niggas stand for my show like i
Starting point is 00:16:28 thought he was gonna perform with Travis and just lead and shake he was with my dog too um the world's uh world's god's messenger my nica tracy yeah yeah tracy brought him to the show shout out tracy he still be out here thug and too oh no rosa l a l a legend he literally brought conier just in to to my show no security yeah like like real legend i'm gonna have to to get Tracy up here. I'm going to have to hit him. Yeah, he really, that shit was crazy. Like, so boom.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Kanye stayed watching the show. The homies were telling me, like, he was bribing to your shit. He was feeling of shit. Like, I did this one song, Toc tag. They said he was going up to it. And then, yeah, I think before I went on stage, a dope-ass moment was backstage. Kanye was up there.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Travis was up there. We was all back there, just chopping it up. I come in there, I shake Kanye's hand. I'm like, what up? I shake his hand. He's like, ah, he like, damn, bro. He's like, I just messed my hand. up bro. He's like, he's like, my bad thing. He dabbed me up. And I was like, that shit just was crazy. Like, somehow he just fucked his hand up. And I shook his hand a little too hard. I had hurt that dhing a hand. That shit was just crazy though. But it was just all that shit was just like down the earth. Like, you know what I'm saying? It just to see, bro, just like regular human shit. Like the way he pulled up. It was a dope.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You got two legends. You got one watching your show. You pull up to New York. One, you playing songs for one. What was the first song you played for Jayze? Just the, the, man. first one you knew he was like man this might go hit i don't know he gonna fuck with or not but let me see i played um it's funny you say that he was he played me some songs first that's a crazy part he played me um odis yeah um the songs off watch the throne he was working on watch the tone at the time with mike dean in the hotel um he played me that and um a song this the song he got with frank ocean and um he was just explaining that the songs and the album is about ancient kings and how they used to get beheaded after they time on the throne. He's just explaining the depth
Starting point is 00:18:26 and, like, the deepness to the lyrics and what he really trying to tell people. You know, the shit that people don't really know that he's trying to say, but what are he really trying to say? So I'm like, damn, I'm like, that's dope. So I'm like, what I'm going to play, bro? That's kid, like, equal up to this type of, like, death. So I played him a song called
Starting point is 00:18:42 I Hear Me Screaming. And it's on Sleeping in Class the album you was talking about. So I played him that song. He listened in every verse. In the last verse was about my grandma. It was a whole 16 bars, like, dedicated to my grandma that passed away. So when he heard the verse, he was like, damn, bro. He's like, that verse was crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:00 He, like, the way you went into detail and really, like, express yourself about your grandma. He was like, that was super dope. I'm like, bro, I appreciate that. Like, I'm nervous sitting there like, damn, this nick Jay-Z telling me something about my lyrics and, like, my song and, like, how I did it. I'm like, damn, that's crazy. So I play him another song that's, like, more of a fun song that I did with Hit Boy. This car, I be over shit.
Starting point is 00:19:24 So at this time, that was like a new saying that I came up with with my homies. And we had all my fans saying that shit, like, I'll be over shit. I be, I'll be over shit. So I played it for Jake. And I'm like, I don't know if he's going to feel this shit or not. Next you know, the song come off, he literally saying that shit, like repeat my song. I'll be over shit. I'll be over shit.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And that's when I knew. I'm like, damn, this shit really is catchy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Nigel, why you ain't going to put no verse on this shit? For real. I think he'll put a verse on this motherfucker or what? We just had chopped it up. He played music.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It was a quick meeting. He literally flew me to New York. I missed two days of 12th grade at Ingle Ohio. I missed like two or three days of school. The principal wrote me off a letter. I'm like, I'm going to meet Jay-Z. She's like, cool. She's like, go do your thing, follow your dreams.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And I went out there. And it was like literally the quickest meeting. I did that long flight, but it was like a couple hour of meeting. But it was a super long flight back and forth to just go do like a couple-hour meeting. But it was a lot worth it. It was definitely worth it. And after the meeting, he was like, yeah, bro, he's like, let's put something together.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He's like, let's do something. Damn. Like, he didn't say, like, I want to sign. He didn't never hit you back, though? No, we, I literally, like, honestly, I was supposed to sign the Jay-Z. Right when I got back, graduated high school, I could have signed to Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:20:36 But Mac Miller reached out to me. I was just going to ask you about that, too. And Macmill, you was doing that thing? He was going on tour with him. Yeah. Like, how close were you, you know what I'm saying? Even after, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:48 You all went on tour and did music. Yeah. Because like how did like him passing away affect you? Man. Him passing, it really did. Like it fucked me up for sure. Like it almost like it took me longer to. It made me drop music like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Because I hadn't dropped in that time I was going through stuff with my business and like stuff I was figuring out with the music. Just being in a game since a young age. And then, you know, me and Mack had a crazy special relationship like just from going on tour and meeting the rapper from another whole other city. But the way he embraced me. Like, bro was going crazy at the time. Sold out shows. He didn't even need no openers. He didn't need to bring nobody out.
Starting point is 00:21:25 But he always made sure to show love to the next artist and bring the next artist out to his platform and introduce his fans. So his fans welcomed me in with open arms. Like, my followers, when I went on tour at Mac Miller, my followers went up by like 100,000. Damn. Yeah, I mean, man, every, every little, like, little section, man, or every little, years or decades, a few years, man. You always, you know what I'm saying? You're getting in there with people you know and fuck with, man.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You stand with legendary motherfuckers, like, and you got a lot of stories to tell that people really don't know. And you told this one story that was stupid, crazy. Like, you was like, D. Smoke was my teacher. And I did a song with that nigga. I was like, what? Like, that nigga was your teacher at Englewood High? At Englewood High.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah, I shot the sleeping in class cover. I tell people this shit. I shot the cover for this. album in his classroom. Like, bro, let me shoot the cover. I'm like, bro, I need to shoot my album cover. He's like, yeah, bro, go ahead, do your thing. Like, he was super supportive of me back in the day.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We're doing songs. He's like, man, I do music. Like, he's telling me about his mom, a gospel singer. His brother, who was Inglewood, sir, that sign of TDE. Damn, that was his brother? That's his brother. You don't know that? Damn, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That's D-Smoke Brother, bro. Like, you hear me, I got songs with Engwood Sir when I was in Tim Gray, 11 grade. He's on my sleeping-in-in-class album on the song. loved in alone, Englewood's service, singing on the background. I didn't even feature him on the song because he wasn't even like super trying to be an artist at the time. He was just doing, producing and like singing and writing.
Starting point is 00:23:01 People don't even know. Oh, he wasn't really trying to rap and shit. Like, he wasn't trying to super be an artist at the time until he signed a TV. Then he came out as an artist. But he was just finding himself with his music. But just the fact that I linked with Dee Smoke, he introduced me to his whole family.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I used to do music with him on the week. He used to tell me like, bro, you know, You know I'm not supposed to be kicking it with my students on the weekend. He's like, I ain't never been this cool with my students. Like, I'm hanging out with you at my career. We doing music on the weekend. He's like, but I rock with you, bro, because he like, I see your vision. He's like, you're really hungry for this.
Starting point is 00:23:31 He like, he always tells me that. Like, you always really wanted it. You know what I'm saying? Even back in the day. So it's a song on YouTube, me and Dee Smoke like 10 years ago. When I stood at Ingleah, he was teaching. He was like one of the youngest teachers at the school. Like, I salute, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:46 How did you like feel what you seen that nigga? Damn, bro, blowing up. That was my teacher. Then I seen him on the show. He told me he was doing the show. I'm like, yeah, he's going to win it. I'm like, I knew he was going to win it. I just knew, like, bro, rapping in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:23:58 He's been rapping in Spanish when I was in high school. You get what I'm saying? Like, dude is a jean. What year was this? I graduated 2011. He was my teacher in 2009, 2010. Damn, bro. 12 years ago, no cap.
Starting point is 00:24:13 That's crazy. Yeah, I grew up. So he was my Spanish teacher. Bro taught me a lot of Spanish, too. I was going crazy and spent it. But like, no, bro, I'm a bro. He definitely inspired me when I was young. I think he definitely a great,
Starting point is 00:24:28 a great, like, role model for like young kids coming out to inner city. You know, we need more D smokes out here in the world for show for sure. So when you let off your ass, I'll say that, when you were signed to Atlantic, right? I was signed to Epic Records. I got management deal with Rock Nation with Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Uh-huh. I was telling you that I ended up getting off the tour. I was supposed to sign before the tour, but I went on the three-month tour of Mac Miller. Once I got off tour, we signed a management deal with Rock Nation. Then I signed a distribution deal with Epic Records. So how is it like being from a bigger label and then, you know what I'm saying, doing it on your own?
Starting point is 00:25:11 I came up doing it on my own and I created like a crazy wave. We had Peas and Careers International. We was moving like a label. really like we had our own store on clothing line you know what I'm saying I had a store by the Berry Center when I was 19 for five years we're doing all this like independently so when I got signed it definitely pushed me to a higher level I feel like it made me more famous like no like no doubt about that it made me more notoriety I got a couple of plaques my name got more worldwide on the radio but my what I was already doing was already special for sure like people tell me that all the
Starting point is 00:25:45 time and I already know that. Like, labels can slow you down sometimes. Like, they don't believe in. Do you feel like that was slowed you down, the label, or being independent? I mean, I think after I dropped my first album, yeah, the label, you know, they slow me down a little bit by not giving me that chance to really show people what I was capable of. Like, if I give you a gold plaque that's about to be platinum in another single that's top 40 urban radio, y'all should be like, this kid is actually good.
Starting point is 00:26:14 this is first album. He gave y'all great music. The album got almost 100 million streams. So how does this kid not get another budget for another album? Like, it's kind of like something happened at the label where people got promoted. Other artists get signed and it's like politics. Like in the NBA. Yeah, because there was something there with you that I felt like, I felt like a decline
Starting point is 00:26:35 that we just didn't see you. And it was like, what was it in the middle? Was it the label? Like, what the fuck happened? Like, because you got niggas. That's how niggas bring you up on a report. You feel like because the niggas they kind of really don't see you.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah. I think it's just me waiting on them to drop music. Like literally they'll make you wait. I'm like I got a whole bag that I could put into marketing for this album. Why would I rush, drop music, make them mad. Now it's like it's gonna mess on my whole play. But me waiting on them. It's like they tricked, not to say they tricked me
Starting point is 00:27:05 because I appreciate the label for what they did for me. And like it definitely changed my life. It gave me opportunity to really follow my dreams on a high level. But, you know, when it come down into the business and the politics and how they really will, not necessarily shelve artists, but they make artists way too long. And I already had my way of going. I could have just said, you know, you know what, I'm going to do me. Like, fuck what you're talking about? Because what, what year was that, like 2015?
Starting point is 00:27:30 This is my album dropped 2015. And you know what? Around that 2015, that's where niggas was becoming legends. Yeah. You got Kendrick. Before the game changed, before all the stuff. You like, you like, nigger. Dom.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Like, before all that. Like, you was hot. We was high before TikTok. We was high before all that shit. You know what I'm saying? So it's just different. It's just going a different way. I went on tour 2016.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I did 150 shows. It's 365 days in one year. I did a tour with Chris Brown, European tour. I did a tour. Snoop and Whiz. High Road tour. Dom Kennedy tour. Big Shine tour.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I did all these tours in 2016. So I was working. I'm promoting my album. I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. Radio tours. The label. It wasn't even me, bro. Like, it's really deeper than rap
Starting point is 00:28:17 when it come to, like, artists like me not getting the chance I deserve. You know what I'm saying? But I'm gonna keep fighting for artists like me. You know what I'm saying? Keep putting up that fight and showing you, we're gonna always prevail and we're gonna make y'all feel crazy
Starting point is 00:28:29 for not believing, you know what I'm saying? In the first play. You think that backflip song, you know what I'm saying, kind of ignited it again? Like, you know what? That was my first mainstream hit, but like, I got a whole fan base that wasn't even feeling that song.
Starting point is 00:28:42 What? Bro, that was a hit when it come to LA. That's a legendary LA song. Oh, God. It's a classic. Like, they still playing it to this day. But I feel like I created a way. I'm so versatile, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Like, I can do the hip-hop shit. Like, I got fans that love me for my rap shit, samples, no fun. Like, you know what I'm saying? But when I do the secular, like, 100 BPM shit for the clubs, I had a whole other fan base of people that's like, what is that? Like, we're not used to you doing that. So I'm one of them artists, like, I want to do everything. I can't let nobody put me in a box.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Like, you know what I'm saying? So some artists, it can hurt them by not, like, staying in their lane, staying and sticking to what they do. Like, I'm not good. I just sticking to one thing. Like, I'm good at just doing it all. Like, you know what I'm saying? I got my own sound, but I can't be, like Drake.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like, Drake could give you an introspective rap song. He'll give you an R&B song, then he'll give you a fun, you know, super hit song or stadium song. Where do you be recording that now? Got your own shit? Yeah, I've always. I always had my own studio equipment. I know how to record myself.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I didn't got good at that over the years, but I record all over a couple different studios. Because you know, LA is small in the motherfucker. They'd be like, Casey Veggie's over here, over there. I was going to tell you the name, but I'm like, I ain't for the name. And I'm like, Casey Veggie. That motherfucker got shot up the other day. And I'm like, come on, this thing, Casey Veggie Studio got shot up.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm like, never. No, that's what they were saying. They said something. No, I had a studio in Englewood. I used to, like, it was in Engwood. It was just too much going on. too many different people like I'm trying to show love see yeah open the doors for all my fellow artists from the city but when you're trying to do that in LA you got to you know it's certain
Starting point is 00:30:22 ways you got to do it and and you kind of affiliate yourself from different motherfuckers and then here we go again like I'm showing love like you know what I went to crunch all high in Inglewood high like yeah you ain't gonna see too many kids come out of LA that tell you that I went to crissall night grade in Inglewood so I'm like best of both where I just know everybody like I show love to everybody like you know what I'm neutral is what you would call it you know what I mean yeah but you gotta watch yourself as sure man your brand is
Starting point is 00:30:50 really crazy and um I was like man this peas and care shit just the color ways the whole design of it is like I'm like this shit is like it's beautiful because you know I was doing the last thing a last king thing
Starting point is 00:31:05 but your shit just in a hole when you look at it like I know it could go somewhere like I know it could skyrocket But you was, yeah, you can take it to the moon. You, you're one of the first people that, that called win to the brand. Like, you've been supporting the brand since day one. Y'all reached out, we did the collab, even after the whole situation with Anwar happening, and people thought I'd backstabed them and all that.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Yeah, I want to ask you about that because they're again again. We've got to cut this narrative out. So you and the Anwar, you know what I'm saying? Don't get along. You didn't fuck the Anwar over. You know what I'm saying? Anwar got to go his separate way because, you know, You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:42 You don't bullshit. Do we see Anwar all, you know. Doing carrots. Yeah, he's doing carrots. He's going on. He's everywhere. And then we got my boy. That don't get no credit, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Right here. How you think all this happened? I mean, it's love, though. It's love. So what happened with you and him, though, for real? It was a bad narrative because we was all good. You know, we went to South Africa. I had the Puma deal.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Me and I go to South Africa 10 days. We everything good. Yeah. We're doing meet in Greeks with the kids. We inspiring the kids in South Africa. with peas and carriage. We got a whole movement going on, like a whole brand that we got, we got thousands of kids that's looking up to us at this time, and they still do. But what made me mad is that bro had plenty of chances to just talk to me as a man. Like, bro, I don't like what's
Starting point is 00:32:27 going on with the brand or it's just a lot of stuff going on. I want to do my own thing. Like, you could have easily just hollered at me straight up, man to man, and we could have been cool, squared away. Me and Josh, you know, was getting, me and Josh P's had our differences. Like we used to have a Josh too We used to We used to We were a pyramid
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like a team You know what I'm saying We used to butthead So it was like a little bad energy Imagine young kids We're going on worldwide tours We signed a million dollar record deal
Starting point is 00:32:52 Trying to figure out The right way to do it So it's friction It's a lot of big business going on You know what I'm saying So We need business managers We hired my cousin
Starting point is 00:33:02 As business managers To help us organize our Our brands Keep in mind I'm pushing this brand P's and Careers For two years and I make zero dollars off the brand.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I'm doing it for the team. You know what I'm saying? We got an investor. He put money into the brand. We got a store. It's going crazy. So you got store, merch, website, you made no bread for two years.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Two years. Just because they're telling me we're trying to meet a quota. We're trying to make a $200K mark. And then from there, we're going to start making money. I wasn't mad at all. So how did Casey fuck anybody over? How did Casey backstab anyone? So this happened.
Starting point is 00:33:38 This is all seven years. ago shit, but it's still shit that gets popped up, brought to my office. Always. Shit gets brought to my desk, like, every, like, not all the time, but like. Because it's carrots, peas and carrots, and it's you, like, so you gotta tell them, you feel me. People think carrots, like, yeah, carrots, Casey Bennett. I'm like, bro, that's not even my brand no more.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Like, and I'm not mad at it. I wanted bro to win. Like, you know what I'm saying? I always wanted everybody to win. That's always been me. So I was always confused. Like, why is y'all doing all this backstab going behind my back shit now? So I used to think they both was.
Starting point is 00:34:09 trying to like win off of me. They were trying to step over me to like get to where they were trying to go. But at the same time, we all helped each other. So it ain't no super hard feelings. We all helped each other to get to where we at. You know what I'm saying? Bro working at Amazon.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Bro doing his brand. He collabing with everybody. But he's doing stuff that we were supposed to do together. Yeah. You running with a brand. You're doing stuff we're supposed to be in doing together. You're running with connections we created together. And then I'm to run that.
Starting point is 00:34:36 So you felt like he was feeding off your name a little bit? But like we fed off each other. But it's like, why can we have talked about that? Or why did you go to our Instagram? He goes to our Peas and Care of Instagram and post a statement that I don't know who helped him write. We didn't talk about it eye to eye, but we never really got to a full understanding
Starting point is 00:34:53 or what it was, why he did that. He never could tell me what I did to him that made him do that or made us separate. So I never understood that. You know what I'm saying? But people coming to me like, I fucked him over. Because why? Because my business manager,
Starting point is 00:35:09 formed a trademark that had my name on it because we I pay for everything I'm the CEO the company Yeah on the performance seat when it comes to profit and war is 50% I take 20% I give Josh 20% We get a designer a percentage in the investor I don't want I'm not greedy at all when it comes to the clothing brand and I wanted him to win because this is this was our vision together as a team so I just want people to be clear on that like I ain't never do nothing to fuck nobody over be gritty like I always rally for everybody to win. Bro never could just come and be a man with me
Starting point is 00:35:45 and how to add me man to man or he would rather go to a post a paragraph on our, our Instagram with our fans that we created together and try to frizzy some shit up and make people choose aside. And then then three, four years later, you
Starting point is 00:36:01 just doing your brand, you're doing your thing, but you don't want it's nothing to talk about. You don't want to talk about nothing. Like, yeah, we talk with us, see each other, but it's like it ain't genuine. I'm waiting on us to have a real, you know, genuine conversation. So you guys still haven't sat down really, man, and had that one-on-one, you feel me, like man-a-man and squashed it all out? Because you really still don't understand that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I definitely don't. I feel like he fucked up a lot for the brand, like my brand and what we was doing. Like all the kids that was looking up to us, he had them confused to where I didn't even respond, bro. People were telling me respond. Some people were telling me, don't. I never responded. So guess what?
Starting point is 00:36:39 When you don't respond, motherfuckers start thinking you the one that was wrong. I was just being a bigger man. Like, man, I ain't even going to address this shit. You know what I'm doing music? I came out with backflip. The next two few weeks later, still dropped the hit, still drop my album on my own with no management. This is my creative directors we talking about. These two niggas was like my team.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Like, we had other managers with Rock Nation. But this was like my internal team that we're talking about. I lose these two dudes as my creative director, my day-to-day manager. And then I had to create my own shit. I had to do my own shit from that point on. So it was just like, I like, no, I don't forgive them for that. Like, I haven't forgave them for that yet. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Like, it's hard to just say, yeah, I forgive y'all. But it's just like, you know, y'all need to speak up on it. Are y'all going to speak and keep it real and say what really happened? Or are y'all going to keep letting people think what they want about me as an artist or as a person. You feel me? Yeah, your brand is already in Norseman's, bro. you're doing your thing now you got your family i'm happy for you but like like don't let people smug my name like he know that he know i kept it always solid always did it all for the homies
Starting point is 00:37:49 i feel like the anwar thing kind of put like the nail in the coffin for motherfuckers to be like all right so honestly it might be casey because you know why all right everybody kind of surpassing you a little bit like your peers like i feel like it fucked in my relationship with travis tyler and mac miller when that happened they felt like they didn't know what was really going to I couldn't, I didn't really, wasn't talking to them at the time. Like, I'm doing my own shit. I feel like, like, niggas start choosing sides. Like, I'm like, bro, you got niggas choosing sides.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You putting statements out that your lawyer helped you write or whatever you got going on and you ain't reached out to me. And I'm supposed to forget about it five years later. So you think that initial situation really fucked up everything, your relationships with everybody? I feel like it played a part in just certain friction, bro. Like, I didn't talk to Mac for months before you die. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. That shit wasn't, that shit wasn't cool. Like, and I feel like that person. play the role in that. So I just got a lot of like regret with that whole situation. By the same time, we still push it forward. Like I just love what we had going to brand, the movement. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:51 And it's still alive, the Peas and Careers International brand. Like, I'm dropping a new collection real soon. I literally took a step back from clothes. Like, I'm gonna do music. I let bro run with the clothes and do his thing. First off, that shit is hard. Don't never stop that shit. The color way, the whole little Army print,
Starting point is 00:39:08 The orange and the green. We're going to take it to the moon. Mix up is ridiculous. We've been designing, bro. Yeah. Working. Don't never ever stop that because I would not. I'll take that shit and I'll be right next to,
Starting point is 00:39:19 in Norrisons right next to his ass. You feel? For real. Until y'all talk. They told me do a new brand and I'm like, bro, I believe in this brand. Like, bro. I mean, y'all just got to talk and, you know, hash that situation. No, man, but don't never stop with you.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm just speaking on my behalf because I've never really spoke on it. Honestly, on this type of level. Like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't did a breakfast club. And I held my tongue. like I'm like I ain't gonna talk about it I show love I'm like I ain't even gonna say nothing now you got to talk about it because right now you know 200 Kvue you're the skinless nigga yeah because I ain't saying nothing because I'm sitting here
Starting point is 00:39:48 quiet being humble I'm like I got music I'm Casey Vres I don't got to respond sometimes not responding or give people their own chance to come up with their own assumption you feel what I'm saying where do you find a motivation you feel me like to keep doing this shit and keep doing music and keep doing clothes when kind of everybody like that was in your circle when you came out kind of like surpassed you a little bit. When you say surpassed what you mean by it? Just kind of like got a little above you in their career. Who got above me?
Starting point is 00:40:16 I'll say Q out there when you was doing your shit Q Kendrick, Doug. Schoolwork, Q. It was like we all started together. You all started together. Tyler and they kind of like above you a little bit. You feel me? They kind of like yeah they Tyler's 50 million. Because you're supposed to be you're supposed to be up here with them
Starting point is 00:40:32 because you started here with them. My peers is all legends. I'm in a plan. I'm competing with legends. I'm competing with sharks. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they threw me in the water. I have to go get it in. You know what I'm saying? I might not be million, multi-million follower, whatever people see as
Starting point is 00:40:48 surpassing or whatever people see. Because when you look at numbers, when you look at numbers, no other young artists from L.A. has done what I did independently. Or like, as by himself, without an artist signing them or without a person putting, you know what I'm saying? A budget
Starting point is 00:41:04 behind. The shit I've done, bro, has never been done. So I can't say nobody really necessarily surpass me. You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't create a legendary guidelines to be an independent artist. People didn't tell me like, bro, I watched what you did and I did the same shit. You know what I'm saying? So I created a blueprint.
Starting point is 00:41:23 So yeah, my numbers, you know, I'm working. I'm out here grinding trying to get the 20 million monthly listeners on Spotify. That's what everybody. You got to. You got to have your Spotify monthly listeners. If you're an artist, you ain't got no monthly listeners. They're not going to pay you. Nah, for real.
Starting point is 00:41:36 But this niggas out here get paid that don't have many numbers as me. What's that about? Why is motherfuckers getting, you know what I'm saying? But I'm happy for everybody, but it's politics. They'll try to box you out. But at the same time, you can't box out. And then how do you compete with that new sound that, you know, L.A. always kind of switch up a little bit, man.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And then you have a new sound here and there. Do you be trying to get in there with it? I mean, really, I'm on some rap shit right now. Like, I'm about to get back just lyrical rap shit. Like I'm doing like my smooth hip hop rap shit fly shit like shout out Mike and Keys my producers you know they always push me to like take the music to another level like don't don't take the easy route they always say don't take the easy route or what everybody else doing like really show them what you capable of because they know like everybody I think in the game know what I'm
Starting point is 00:42:23 capable of when it come to rapping and lyricism and writing songs and expressing yourself I'm one of the best you know what I'm saying when they come to young kids doing that and I'm one of the I feel like I'm one of the best one of the best. You feel me? So I don't think it's going to be, you know, it's never been a problem to, to, like, remain relevant or keep my sound alive. Like, I think my flow is special. Yeah, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Like, I feel like it's hard as fuck to remain relevant. You feel? I feel like you can come out. You can do a hot song. You can do it. But how do you keep it? Who been in the game 15 years with no, never worked a job, never worked for no man, but, like, then paid all his bills off music.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Except pops. But he's not relevant or he's not, he's not popping. What is popping in? If I pay all my bills, I ain't never worked for nobody. And off music, what is popping? I know, right. I've been popping. I never, never fell off.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And you never got really got into, like, I'll be seeing a lot of motherfuckers into drugs, into selling shit, you know what I'm saying? Doing drugs, sipling and doing all that. No Casey Regis's week strain coming soon. Yeah. New collapse coming soon. We drop in like five. Oh yeah, the legal way.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The legal way. Oh, are you dropping five strings? You're going to be everywhere, though? We got collapse coming. Yeah, we're going crazy. Damn. Might be in cookies. Might be in all the biggest shops on the West Coast, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, talk about it, man. Talk about what's new, man, what you got coming new. You know, I'm really on the fashion, you know, beside anything negative, man. We don't positive. Yeah. You know, I got my clothing line. I got my since y'all forgot EP, my new project dropping next week. Since y'all forgot five songs.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Got some dope. B song? Yeah, I got some dope-ass features on there. Man, Leak 1. Just League 1. My new single dropping tonight, royalty, royalty featuring Dom Kennedy, produced by my dog Ray Reel, Mike and Keys.
Starting point is 00:44:13 So shout out Dom. I got him on the project. I got RJ, Mr. L.A. on the project. R.J., shout out my dog. Yeah, RJ was just in here the other day, man. I got Kaylin for real, for real, on the project. So we just been working, man,
Starting point is 00:44:25 just on some L.A. shit. I got my new collection, Peas and Careers International Dropping Real soon. I got a new NFT coming out as well for my new project. Man, talk about this NFT. Do we really know what this NFT shit is? You're going to have to sell me over it.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Because I ain't sold on that shit shit. I got a business partner. Okay, okay. You know, I know what's going on in the gas prices. It's just, you know, it's business. It really, really is. But it's just thriving in the Internet space. That's all it really is, making money thriving in the Internet world.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But, yeah, I got some business. partners that's super dope and some people that's trying to partner up with me that did some collabs with some big people in the game and i'm excited about that um i think it's a lot of avenues i didn't really you know tap into that i'm ready to tap into right now but yeah just shows music clothes how your relationship with hit boys flows and hoes i'm playing he still got a relationship with hit boy he's still there uh yeah that's my brother hit boy we just talked i actually i'm like I'm like, hit boy, let's do the project. I know you're done with the Knives project.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Y'all just won a Grammy. Now it's time to, you know what I'm saying? Show him what that young spirit from L.A. can do. You know what I'm saying? So I told him, send me the beats. He's like, I'm going to sing you some beats and we're going to work on some. Man, everybody probably hitting this. Yeah, but me and bro got classics.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Everybody been hitting him, but me and him been made classes. We made a song that Kanye and Jay Z. They used after us. To me and hit boy, we created the CDC. Let's talk about it. That's crazy. CDC created the energy for hit boy to tell you. He said it in interviews before.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Like that was the same beat that they used for like click or like one of them big joints that Kanye and Jay-Z did. Then he had to remake the beat and it turned out to be something else. But yeah, like that beat and that song sparked the energy for a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? That people don't know about it. But yeah. So well, because this is like if you was in that studio with Jay, you think he was listening?
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like I'm gonna take this shit. No, like nothing like that. Or even like the boy. Like, even like, like, I don't know if people know this, but I made the song The Boy with Hit Boy. Yeah. And Drake was supposed to hop on the song. Drake was supposed to do a feature. But he never ended up doing a feature.
Starting point is 00:46:40 The one thing led to another. But me and Drake always, you know, we showed a lot of love to each other. Like, even earlier in my career, bro, came out to Fairfax, pulled up on me and Anwar one day just to come show love and reach out and let us know. Like, man, I'm rocking with y'all. Bro, he invited me over for Super Bowl. And ever since then, we've just been kind of locked in. but we kind of, you know, we don't talk as much everybody doing their own thing.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. But he heard my song, The Boy. And then next of you know, he played the song. I guess Hit Boy gave him the song. He played it in the club in Chicago when he was DJing. So next thing, I go on the Internet one day. It's like, Drake plays new Casey Veggie song in the club in Chicago while he's DJ. I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:19 I'm like, how did he even get it? So I hollad of that hip boy, I'm like, damn, that's crazy. Next thing you know, Drake starts calling himself the boy. The boy, like, Oh, so he got that from you. But I'm not. Potentially. Potentially.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It doesn't even matter. You know, I. So it kind of went that way. It's all good. Whether he did or not, it's all good because it was dope. I thought it was dope. I thought it was ill. Like, I don't know if he was, I don't know if he feels that way, but I was just like, damn, how did this all pan out?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. You know what I'm like, it's dope though. That we both calling ourselves the boy. Champagne, my nigga, he did that verse. He ran with it. He went crazy. No, Drake went crazy with that boy, the boy. He took the boy to another level.
Starting point is 00:47:58 It's what show on it on the other level. I've been doing this, the boy's shit, and they know that. It's track record. It's dates and all that. When the song came out, when the song was supposed to have Drake on, he was supposed to hop on, he played it. And next you know he's called it. But I think it was dope. I don't think it was like he took it from me.
Starting point is 00:48:16 No, I ain't one of them guys. Inspiration. Yeah. Bro, inspired me. A lot of shit, like the comeback season tape, all that. I think every artist in the game can admit that we all get inspiration. from each other for sure man right now who you banging right now the younger artists um shit it's a lot of uh it's a lot of young artists coming up out the city um
Starting point is 00:48:40 let's give me a top thing who you banging in the whip man it's so random like I got switch to an artist from the bay and then switch to some new niggins artists be going I just be different cities like I got I fuck with Detroit got dope artists LA got some dope artists coming up we we're going crazy right now I got my boy at Johnny Coolin in the building. Yeah. I'm my dog. Said out Barry Gordy in the building.
Starting point is 00:49:02 We just all tend. I got a whole camp of people that I came up with that, you know what I'm saying, that I rock with, that, you know what I can call on me for some. I can call on them. But, you know what I said? I think I've definitely, like, showed a lot of love to artists out the city. Yeah, New York got a few artists that I rock with. I can't really name job for artists in particular, but I can just say I've been, I rocked with a few artists in a certain city at once. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:27 It's just be going up. So now what you think, you know what do you think you got to do to take yourself to that next level? Because you still, I feel like you still got to reach that one. Like you don't have to, but it's there for you. You know what I'm saying? It's there for you to go get for sure. Yeah, that's dope that you said that I still believe that I'll be like, man, I'm going to be bigger than I ever been. I feel like Jay Coe, like the Jay Zs, they didn't get, they didn't catch their real win in the music business to, what, 27, 28.
Starting point is 00:49:57 I just turned 28. So I've been in the game, so I was like, I got Simon, I was 18. So it's been a minute. People were like, yo, what is he doing? He's been in the game a minute. So that's why people can say,
Starting point is 00:50:07 like, what is he going to do next? But I think for me it's just, like, locking in musically, because I never wanted to be, like, one of them guys that had to go, like, do something crazy on TMZ to get famous or, like, go slapping a nigga or something.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Or, like, go date, a R&B pop star or something, or go find me or Rihanna. or something like I never felt like I had to be one of them guys that needed to do that in order to get attention but like they'll tell you now like music is like music business is like like 20% music and like 80% gimmick gimmick or like antics or like what type of chain you got on or like how much you shine in or what your algorithm is but it's just about me for me it's just consistency I think me staying consistent I can take over the whole world for sure
Starting point is 00:50:57 How important you think that image shit is in the rap game? Do you take it like crazy like that? You feel like you gotta have pains and shit up? I mean, I think I'm one of the guys, not to two my own horn, but I'm one of the guys that can like break the rules. Like I don't gotta like go by the rules. Like some people created this type of lane for themselves where they gotta go by the rules. But I feel like the type of world I created and like my music and what I do, I don't have
Starting point is 00:51:21 to like do what everybody else doing. Yeah, and that's why I fuck with you man. why I got you here, man. So before we end this, man, I want you to shout out everything you got going on again. You know what you got coming out right now, you feel me? Like, tune in.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah, all the shit that's coming right now. Tune in with the boy. I got, since y'all forgot, my new EP is going crazy. My new project, I got like consistent music dropping. My new clothing line Pee's and Careers International. Make sure you all stay tuned for that. Check on my website,
Starting point is 00:51:54 Casey Veggie.com. you know, NFT shit, all type of shit, man. We just gonna take over the world. You know, we're doing real estate. We're doing everything. We open a new business in the city, all that. Yes, sir, man. And thank you again for coming, man.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I appreciate you, like I said, real LA staple, man. Like, I can't believe you here. You too, bro. You're a legend out here, man. Good looking, man. What you did for the city and, you know, what you and Tiger was doing everything, like all that stuff you didn't did in your past
Starting point is 00:52:24 is legendary for the city too. Yeah, good looking, bro. We're all putting on for LA, you know what I'm saying? For real, for real, for us. Yes, sir. That's what it's all about. All right, y'all, we gone. Yeah, West Hot.
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