No Jumper - Cast Of Tubi’s “Robbin” on The Dark Side Of Reality TV, Relationships & More!
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The Sharp Tank.
No Jumper.
Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.
And today, I have the opportunity and the privilege.
Sit down with these three lovely ladies, Jada, Lely, Gavin.
We had to correct it because she swore, she was like,
and like I said, maybe it's just had a habit that you're so used to having to correct somebody.
Because I was like, damn, I said it right the first time.
You did.
You did.
Hey, I'm just trying to keep us all together, ladies.
Keep us as one.
You dig what I'm saying?
I definitely want to talk about it.
You guys have done a movie called Robin.
Please, if you guys can, explain your guys' characters
and you know how you've been, how you had to portray these roles.
Can we start with you, Jada?
Yeah, so my character is cute.
Okay.
And for me personally, because I'm from New York,
and like I grew up in a hood.
and my character, she was basically me.
She was the pretty girl in her.
She loved to dress.
She's like into makeup and fashion and having her hair cute.
So it wasn't hard for me to step into Q because that was already who I was.
It wasn't like I had to do research to figure out what it was like to embody this character.
You don't have to play it at all.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So it was honestly, it was pretty easy.
stepping into that and just being the type of person that I am and a friend I am showing up
what my friends need me being loyal to a fault sometimes like willing to say whatever consequences
that come with it so yeah so you didn't feel like you didn't feel like uh cute she don't feel like
she has any type of uh betraying type of personality everybody trusts her everybody's
cool with her like cue is very black and white it's not like somebody who you got to look at sideways
or you know what I'm saying like what you see is what you get with you
I'm very just straightforward.
Like, I might make a joke, but ain't shit funny.
True.
Well, I'm sure we're all going to laugh, you know.
I hope it's got a character where it's cute,
but she's even, you're still doing some dainty shit as y'all around.
I'm like, uh-uh, ain't touching.
That's shit dirty.
Yeah, that's very me.
That's very cute.
That's very cute.
I think that's going to be dope, you know.
I definitely will say.
How about you, lady?
So I play Camila.
She's pregnant throughout the whole movie.
I'm the Latin girl in the I mean I'm Latin obviously
but um didn't have to embody that
yeah didn't have to try too hard
you know but I didn't I grew up in Miami
so I didn't grow up hood but I feel like there's some hood
in me a lot of people think I'm from New York
Miami's right yeah
Miami I mean growing up in Miami you
embody a lot of you know cultures
and and we do hustle
we're very hustle minded in Miami and we're about
our money and people just get into things sometimes and it's it's okay this is Miami everyone's just
trying to not even trying to work too much so I kind of I feel that um you know and in my character
I relate I've never been pregnant but it was fun to play you know this pregnant girl who's who's
you know robbing this bank while she's like eight months pregnant but I think I think you know being able
to put myself in in my character's shoes and trying to put you know get money for her family and
and, you know, and just trying to do something for her family,
something that I would do, you know?
Not necessarily to probably rob a bank,
but I know that I would do anything for my family.
So I relate to that, and I was able to put that into my character
and, you know, embrace that.
You played eight months pregnant?
I mean, I was pregnant throughout the whole thing,
but I think it kind of grew.
Yeah, it grew throughout the movie,
but starting off the movie, it was already a belly you could see.
So I could say I was maybe five months,
beginning of the movie,
and then to the point I gave birth.
You playing that, did it make you kind of want to have kids?
I mean, I think.
Right?
It was like, would that make it?
Yeah, did that make you want to have children?
I mean, it looked so real, too.
It looked so real.
I was eating like I was pregnant.
I was tired like I was pregnant.
It was funny because I felt really like I was really living this world.
It's a hell of a simulation.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, honestly, I think as a woman,
And I think a lot of us dream of that moment, you know, eventually I'm not ready for it right now.
But I think eventually I would love to be pregnant, you know.
But I want to be in a time where, like, I'm ready for it.
And I, you know, I can embrace every aspect.
And I'm really going to take advantage of being pregnant.
Because, you know, there's pregnant privilege, you know, that I want to be able to take.
And you were just pregnant.
I think you should wait a little while, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Go back to wait.
We're going to wait.
We can get there.
Yeah.
But it was a fun experience.
and I think we'll see a lot of like that motherly instinct through Camila and a lot of her decisions throughout the movie.
Yeah, I think that'll definitely be dope.
I can't wait to see.
Just what y'all explained y'all too so far.
Like, you know, and I've caught the trailer.
Like I've caught everything like this big going on.
I'm like, okay, it's about to be something.
And our transformation too, even physically throughout the movie, like we have our, you know, makeovers.
Because some of y'all start off like uglier and then like y'all got badder throughout the world.
My character, she was always
She said something.
She said, no.
She said no.
She was always cute.
She was always cute.
I had the jewelry.
I had the beginning.
It was really me and Erica
who had a transformation later on
because at the beginning I was like,
I don't know if you would wear this.
Yeah, you too.
I did too.
Yeah, we had a little glow up.
We had a transformation, yeah.
But Q was always cute.
So, yeah.
Gabby, you seem like you've got a lot to say.
Can you please tell us about it?
I really don't.
I really don't.
Well, please, you have said, involve us into your character.
My character.
Okay, so I play Trina, who is yes from the hood.
I am not from the hood.
I'm born and raised in L.A., but I was born in Santa Carita.
How did you invite that?
I don't know how I did.
I mean, I've been acting.
since I was a kid and I am comfortable in front of the camera and I love putting on a role
and playing roles that that stretch me.
But this really, really did stretch me.
There was one line that she was like, I can't do that.
I mean, I'm not going to lie.
You'll probably see them in the movie.
There's a few lines that, yeah, they were a stretch for me.
They were a stretch for me.
So you say it was so it was actually hard to play a quote-unquote street person.
It was in a sense of like, okay, that is not necessarily how I, like, the character isn't necessarily how I speak, for example.
But yeah, I mean, I think all of us can relate to our characters in that, again, we are about sisterhood.
We are girls, girls.
We are about just supporting what we need to do, whatever that is, to make our lives better.
and that's really what these girls are about.
So in that way, I can relate to it.
But, yeah, no, it was a stretch and it was fun,
and it was first very nerve-wracking and uncomfortable
to just play someone that was so different than myself.
But, yeah, I hope that it turned out good.
I haven't seen it yet.
I'm sure me and you, well, I'm sure me and you can both agree
that, you know, we've seen a lot of actors
that, you know, play, you know, very either dark or very edgy roles.
And then when you hear them and they sit down
and they'll do an interview, they're like, hi-ho,
shootio.
Yeah.
You know,
can I have my crumpets and tea?
And they'll play a very hood or a very dominant figure, you know,
either a TV series or a movie, you know,
and you'll think that's really them because they played it that damn good.
Yeah.
Well, I had a, oh, sorry.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
No, I was going to say,
what I did connect to what made me even more comfortable with playing the role
was just the fact that I could be myself playing someone that's from, you know,
this neighborhood. So in other words,
I'm quirky as hell. And I thought
that Trina would be too. So there's times
where Trina's quiet. There's times when you're kind of like
what's going on in her mind? And then
sometimes she speaks and you're like,
oh, I didn't expect that.
And I think like we had a few
moments like that where I just
kind of brought Gavin to Trina.
So I can agree with that.
You know what I mean? Because I read the script.
Yeah. I read the whole script.
And so when I envisioned
Trina before I saw you,
when I envisioned Trina, she was like this.
She was different.
Yeah, like she was kind of aggressive and more, like,
assertive when she was saying it, but you definitely brought, like,
quirkiness to her.
Yeah, but it was a sweetness.
And, like, the way that you put a twist to what I thought Trina would be,
like, typically just from reading off paper.
Right, right.
It was cute to see, like, you made her you.
Yeah.
So that way, I tried.
I like that, too, because, like, all in all,
if you think about it.
Because I agree.
I read the whole script.
We were different, but a lot of the script
kind of like played into each other.
Yes, yes.
Versus now because there was a face to it.
You know, I saw how every character
had his own character.
You know how like when you watch a movie or a show,
you kind of identify yourself with somebody.
You're like, I'm more like so-and-so.
You know, and in my head, they were all kind of all similar.
But then when we, you know,
when you came with your aspect and everybody came
and brought, you know, their own to it,
it just felt different.
and diverse and just
and it's fun and interesting.
I think it's like a very fresh take on
what we, I think, is a classic,
you know, set it off.
So it has that as an inspiration for sure.
I think the director and the writer would agree.
But yeah, it's definitely kind of a fresh,
fresher, modern take on it.
So is this, since the filming of Robin,
is this the first time you guys
have actually got to sit down and talk about it
and unpack together?
This is the first time you guys seen each other since then?
Yeah.
Yeah, it is.
Since then and also during the movie, it was the first time we ever met.
Yeah.
We didn't know anything about each other.
So it just felt like we were embracing the character, but none of us knew the background of who we were.
Like, I didn't know how Erica was off her character or you or Gavin or Saria.
So I just feel like when we came into the, because even for me, I got to know the girls really who they were after the movie.
We shot it, after we shot it.
I was like, oh, you know, because we were.
So we were put in the character right away that I don't think any of us knew who we were as before the character.
Yeah.
Like I was saying earlier, how, like, after we would get off set and it's like exchanging Instagrams and really, like, diving into who everybody is outside of being on set.
And it's like, oh, okay, she's this.
So it's like, even with me now the next day when I see you, I'm like, oh, okay, I see who you really are and how you're embodying this character.
but it's like it's still refreshing to know that you,
like you're different outside of who this is.
Even if you might show up or you might be a little timidus.
Like you got your emotion outside it is.
I can see why they had you do Trina and I can see why they have you do Camila and so on and so fast.
Speaking of Trita, because I heard you say earlier that you were like you started bringing some Gavin into the mix.
You start bringing some natural you into the mix.
Do you feel like it made you embody the character a little easy?
year.
Absolutely.
Once you start putting yourself.
It's like sitting there kind of reading and they're like,
act this way.
You're like, look, I'm going to say the lines,
but I'm going to say it kind of my way.
Yeah.
Well, you have to.
As an actor, that's when the magic happens is when you bring who you really are
to what's on the page and to the character.
So they don't want cookie cutter characters.
They don't want people that are exactly, you know,
I'm speaking kind of, I think what writers would agree with.
They have this character in mind and they're going to put it on the page,
but then the magic happens when someone,
kind of brings themselves their real life experiences to what they've yeah yeah to what they've
they've come up with and then yeah would you would you say that that's why they would say in the business
great acting isn't acting at all um do they say that I mean I've heard them said from some of that
I've heard him say if I tell you I've heard it from I've heard it from some of the best I mean like
you know um yeah chat hanks shout out to him that's my boy that's Tom hanks you know and I asked
because I was playing, I had to do this role.
Yeah.
You know, for this movie?
And I asked him, I said, hey, like, you know what I'm saying?
How would you say, how would your daddy tell you to play?
He says, man, my dad always told me, man, great acting ain't acting at all.
Wow.
You say, you just go in there.
It's really just living.
Yeah.
That's from a great.
You know what I'm saying?
So when I heard it, it made sense.
It was like, don't try too hard.
Just be yourself in it.
You know what I'm saying?
If they like it, they'll find that's why people have agents and things like that is to put you in a role that's
fitting for you.
For you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
That's what's important, you know.
And it sounds like they kind of pinpointed,
like they got it right with everybody
because everybody kind of lives like that already out of you two.
And then you, it's like, they really put you to the test a little bit, you know?
But you did it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So in that way, I would agree with you then.
Yeah.
It's finding that real life connection to the character.
Yeah.
It's like putting yourself like in the shoes of the person you're portraying.
You know.
I gotta ask you guys, and I'll go one and one.
Like, what made you say yes to this role,
Jody?
Like, what made you?
Was it because it was something you felt like,
all right, this is easier?
Do you feel like I'm about to really start?
Like, I want to start really act.
I'm taking this serious.
Well, honestly, this is my second movie with them.
Okay.
So the first movie that I did with them was,
I hate you to death,
and it was basically about a man who had three wives,
and then we didn't know about each other.
We ended up finding out about each other,
and then we all basically come up
with his master plan
to fuck him up.
Can I curse?
Yes, you can.
Oh, hey, yes.
We'll pass that time.
Let me know shit.
And so, basically with that one,
and so, basically with that one,
like I love that role,
but it was also, like, I feel like
kind of like typical, like,
relationship shit.
So I feel like with this particular role with Q,
it was more action.
I got to do stuff.
I got to rob a bank.
Like, it was fun.
It was fun to me.
So it was like,
get on Charlie's Angel shit real quick.
Yeah, and I didn't have to have like a romance with anyone.
I didn't have to do any of that.
There was no love scene for me.
There was no, you know what I mean?
So it was something that I definitely wanted to take on.
So in a sense, you could say it was easy.
And then in a sense, I feel like it was also showing like the versatility that,
no, I don't always have to be associated with a partner or love interest or this.
shows your diversity.
Yeah, diversity.
I feel you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, yeah.
Like, I'm grateful for the role.
And like I mentioned to them before, I don't have an agent.
And I've never taken an acting class and for me to keep getting blessed with certain opportunities.
Because you're really good.
Thank you.
I was a lot of when I heard that.
Thank you.
Sometimes I get up there and it's like I'm just feeding off your energy.
I'm like, okay, they look comfortable doing what they're doing.
I'm going to be comfortable, too, I guess.
I'm not going to lie to you.
It's some people that just have that effect.
They do.
That natural talent.
Yep.
You know, I look at it like this for you, Jay,
like for you not to have an agent
and for you not to went into any type of like, you know,
schooling for it, like where you just go to acting school
or you go sit down in a few classes.
Girl, you might want to do that because if you're good now,
it's only going to up your game even greater.
It would be crazy to see you actually go get some of that stuff
and it become a part of your tool bag.
Exactly.
That's very true.
And that's what I was saying to them, like, because I got the opportunity so easy and it just came so effortlessly.
I did feel like that was God's way of telling me to, like, water it.
Go get your ass right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, we, you know, you ain't, no woman or nobody stays young and vibrant forever.
So I feel like the good years.
Man, I just got that same advice last week.
Really?
Someone's telling me something.
Someone's telling me something.
God trying to speak to me.
Yeah, no, most definitely.
Like, you know, just, I would say take that in consideration a little of this.
So he could push you further because there are ages, people like that that are willing to pick up that fresh talent that's got that it factor.
It's everywhere, especially in the city of Los Angeles.
Like, you get around here, the possibilities are endless.
It is.
You know.
That's why I moved here.
Impossible is possible year.
Well, you're already on the right trajectory.
You did?
Lely, how about you?
What made you say yes to this role?
Like, what made you say, I'm going to pick this one up?
Let's get it.
Funny thing is that I feel like I manifested it.
Because a week before, I even got the email,
I had just written down, like, things I wanted to do for the year.
And one of it was, like, I want to book another role.
I hadn't acted in, like, about two years.
And the last thing I did was pretty big.
It was, it's called El Canador.
It's on Netflix.
And I played Nikki Jam's sister, which is, like, on his life and all that.
And I've never done a role.
Like, I always get supporting roles of, like, the lead.
that kind of like never done it like a love interest nothing like actually I did one
hated it but but um this was dope because it came into literally came into my email and I
had worked with them like eight years ago on this small like maybe two-line thing not for any
not for like anything for them to remember me you know so I thought it was dope because
like I just randomly got this email I was like oh we want you for this role and they had
been already reaching out like years prior to see if they got me in anything but it's just like
timing-wise wouldn't align. And then I had nothing really in that moment. I was like,
heck yeah. Like I wanted something. You know, I wanted to act in something. And then when I read the
role even more, I was like, oh, I could do this. Like I felt this is perfect for me, perfect for, you know,
what I want to do and just kind of get myself back in the mix of acting. And, you know,
this would be a role that I'd be carrying throughout the whole, you know, movie. So I'm like,
I could do this. So before you only had two lines that you've ever did.
Well, working with them, yeah, in the past.
So, like, I guess they remembered working with me.
And then that's when you went to the next to next to next joint.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But that was years ago, like, eight years ago or something like that.
Yeah.
So it's just dope because that just also tells you, like, you know, I'm like a yes person.
I'm like, if this an opportunity doesn't matter how much I'm getting paid or whatever, like for me, it's like if the opportunity is like, if the opportunity is there, like I'm going to take it, you know.
Who doesn't love a yes chick?
You know?
And, like, that was, I'm not yes to everything.
You don't say yes to everything.
Career-wise, you know, if I see a benefit.
Culture, baby, we got to.
Only the good thing.
No, but career-wise, if I think it's going to benefit me in the long run, you know,
I'm like, yeah, like, I'm up for the opportunity,
especially if it aligns with what I want to do.
And, you know, like, it's always about having good, you know, character, good energy.
And I think that's what people remember, you know, if you're easy to work with.
And so, yeah, so when they reached out, I was like, I'm in.
like so that was that
took it on and
got to rapping and that's how it happened
like that. I love that Lily. We love that
Mama. You haven't talked
to us. What made you say yes to this role?
Because obviously this is one
of the things that you fought for the, fought through
the hardest in your life.
Doing this. Is that what I'm saying?
Because you were like, this is this shit.
Because you pretty much said, this shit was a
stretch. You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah, this shit was a
head scratcher a little bit.
Like, you was about to probably really get in character
because it was making you a little frustrating.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, hey, I'm about to trip the s'clock out around you.
You're hilarious.
Fing all donuts and coffee.
Fuck all this shit.
Wow, I was just about to go off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I couldn't be wrong.
Are you laughing at how I said that?
I couldn't be wrong.
Because I'm thinking about a specific scene at me.
I know you are.
I know you are.
She comes off so wholesome.
I know.
I am.
She had to get like buck on somebody.
Yeah.
It was still wholesome.
Had to get crunk.
They're like, we know your nice ass ain't like this.
Like, who's in your nice ass?
I know everybody was laughing.
I was doing my best.
But everybody was like, okay.
Gavin hasn't done this before.
No, I just don't cuss people out in real life.
Maybe you can come over.
I'll train you get your rights.
Can you?
Yes.
I'll show you some of my greatest work.
I cannot.
I cannot.
I can not.
I can not with you.
I'll never see.
Oh, wow.
I promise she'd be like, yeah.
I'll be like, hey, I'll tell you.
I'm like, now see, embody that shit.
Now practice, go.
Get that shit right.
Wow.
I do need some, yeah, I do need some.
I just need to cut someone out.
I'll do you a discount.
Every single day for the next 30 days.
Oh, thank you.
I care.
Discounted for sure.
You're hilarious.
I got your back.
This is so funny.
I got your back.
But I need to know like what made you because we got the jokes.
We've laughed about it.
Okay.
What made me say yes?
What made you say yes to this role?
So I, you know, sometimes.
I always tell God I'm like, you know, I don't know what's best for me.
I know what I want and I know how I want things to go.
But if you have a different plan, your plan is always better.
So just let me know.
And this was definitely one of those moments because I primarily focus on my music.
And yes, I've acted since I was a kid.
But naturally my life just took that turn and that's what's been fruitful and fun.
I just was kind of waiting for acting moments if they arose, but I wasn't necessarily pursuing them as hard anymore because I was just very focused on music.
So I got the call to audition for this role and I auditioned for it.
I turned in my tape.
Then I didn't hear anything back.
And I was like, okay, cool.
That happens all the time.
Move on with my life.
No big deal, you know.
And then about two days before they started shooting, I got the call that I got it.
So I was very surprised to say the least because it wasn't on my radar.
I literally had forgotten about the audition, like in a healthy way, you know.
You kind of have to do that when you're an actor.
And I said yes because it seemed like a really good opportunity to, number one, obviously stretch myself.
Number two, work with really talented women.
I did not know a lot about these women before I said yes.
but I knew that the caliber of actors that were going to be on the project were going to be at a certain level just because I was familiar with the directors work and I just kind of know how he rolls and I know that he was going to be really diligent about who he casted.
So I was like, that would be cool.
And then I think three was just I love being on set as a just as an observer.
You know, you learn so much when you're on that.
set when you're observing kind of every single person doing their their job whether you're in front
of the camera behind the camera observing the director how he's communicating observing pa's and how
they are effective and you know just kind of taking it all in i haven't been on i hadn't been on
set in a while so just to do that again and to learn that way was really appealing to me so it's kind
of yeah threefold in that way it seems like for you um you didn't really just say
yes to a role you accepted a challenge.
Yes.
You know, and to see you accept that challenge of having a role that you may not have been
very familiar with in the past of doing anything else, you know, and I hear you say that
you were concentrated on your music.
Yeah.
It has to be amazing to be able to be a woman that's willing to take on the task, accept
the challenge, and execute.
And do it scared, you know?
Sometimes you know.
You don't have to be, you don't have to be completely sure.
You don't have to be completely confident when you say yes.
to something. Like, I think a lot of people do really amazing things scared. You know, that's not,
that's sometimes a part of a part of the gig, you know, a part of a part of the experience. So,
yeah. I love that. What did you, what did you guys enjoy the most about the shoot? Like,
what did you guys enjoy the most out of all of it? Was it the experience? Was it the laughing?
The entire experience. Yeah, that time. But just like having fun.
like off camera
just doing stunts.
Yeah.
And do this for me
like
cussing everybody out
to rob a bank.
Yes.
I was fun.
I was fun.
That was really fun.
Like the stunt guns
all the day
like I love that.
I actually liked wearing the belly
because I didn't even
You did.
You loved it.
I think it's because I just
didn't have to worry about
do I look fat.
Do I look like doesn't matter.
Girl, it is true.
You just have to worry about your angles.
Yeah.
Like I didn't care about my angles.
I didn't care if I was slouching.
like everything was okay.
It was like, this is great.
That's true.
So I like that.
So I guess that was an answer as a whole right there.
Yeah.
But I guess that was an answer as well.
Let's get to the part of where people,
because this is the part that kind of bothered me.
So I'm going to ride with y'all on this.
We're going to talk a little bit of shit.
Okay, okay.
I didn't like how people tried to downplay it,
trying to say it was, oh, it'll never be another set it off.
Hold the fuck up.
Let's pump that shit right there.
because if that's the case
if this is given that
even in a short
spurt, I respect it because
we need something like that way.
We need something modernized.
People ain't going back and watching
set it all half the month. They're not. Don't even know what
it is, but guess what they're about to know? It's Robin.
It's true. Because it's in the now.
It is. And it can be
revamped. And I feel like it really
gave maybe a little bit
of a plot twist to it.
But it seems like it's more
on some action Jackson type shit
It is. It is. Yeah, it doesn't
seem like it's on some like,
I don't know, it just didn't get me the set it off.
It's not cookie cutter
set it off. It's not. It's definitely
modern. And like, even as an artist
when I think about how artists like to do
samples and revamp
and do this and do that, it's like
sometimes in order to bring
fresh ears
or fresh eyes to that original thing,
you have to take this new thing
to be the vessel,
to bring that awareness to the old thing.
So it's like, it's one of those kind of things.
Well, realistically, I saw SET off after we did this because I didn't know what it was
and everybody kept telling me, but I didn't grow up.
You know, I grew up very Latin, very Spanish, you know?
So to me, it's like, I didn't know what Suttered off was.
And then I was like, wait, obviously I know the cast because they've grown with us
and I've seen them in many other movies and stuff, but never saw that movie.
So to me, it's like this would, this is like how I'm bringing it to our generation,
because for me it was new.
It falls into like the dead presidents category.
All the time you ever seen dead presidents.
It falls into a very nobody having money starting off.
Like nobody had a good life.
You know what I'm saying?
And I feel like that's kind of how Robin came off.
Just kind of like, well, not even because it seemed like they were going to move old girl up to president.
Like they were like, we was just about to move you up to president.
She's like, I ain't take shit.
And I feel like all it did was just showing.
that everybody has their breaking point.
Absolutely.
You know, that's what I feel like the movie kind of embodied.
I've only saw little bits and pieces of it,
but from what I've saw, it's absolutely amazing
and I can't wait to really indulge, you know?
Because, hey, for people to say that, though,
like, yeah, set it off.
Like, be happy that they're trying to even bring a piece,
they're giving some respect to the original.
Yeah, it is.
And then taking their own twist.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, at the end of the day, I don't think,
think the goal for it is to replace what has already been done.
Not at all.
It's just, you know.
It will never be another set it off.
Like I agree.
All y'all did was try to remove that.
And what I mean by that is just, you know, yeah, just bring it and modernize it more, you know,
if they were trying to make it set it off, they would have called it set it off too.
Exactly.
Set it off.
They would have called.
Yeah.
If that's what they were going to be.
You know what I'm saying?
It probably will do that.
Now that we put it out there, you know, somebody might do that, but we did it first.
We did it first.
Exactly.
I'm just kidding.
But yeah, it's definitely more of an inspiration than a replica or something that is trying to be exactly like that.
Yeah, I think that it's just one of those stories that deserves to be retold or reimagined.
And, yeah, why not do it in this way?
And you'll see, like, the plot points are very different.
Characters are really different.
Because I know you'll tell me, because they'll probably send you that whole one sheet of what everything was about.
Did they tell you that this was supposed to,
did they ever tell you?
Did they ever tell you like,
hey, we want you to go for reference,
maybe watch Set It Off.
No, no.
We don't know until we,
I didn't know until I started like hearing it,
you know, and even in the comments
when the poster came out.
And then we make a joke about it in the movie as well.
And then we did in the movie.
We're kind of like,
oh, is this going to be like set it off?
That shows the love though.
Yes, that shows kind of like,
that shows that, hey,
you're not pissing and spraying paint
over the mural that was there.
and went next to it and made your own.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, people should take that in the consideration.
Like, whoever wrote that was dope.
You know what I'm saying?
For doing that, you know?
And to not tell you to go watch any of that
because he wanted y'all to bring a feel
for how y'all felt about the character.
Exactly. Exactly.
We were even having a conversation about,
like, when it came to set it off,
what character do we feel like we would be?
And it's like we couldn't even figure out
who we would be.
Yeah, as far as like, I don't know who Q would be and set it off.
Did you watch, have you ever seen Set It Off?
Yeah, I've seen Set It Off a lot of times.
So I can definitely ask you, like, did it, and be honest, did it give you that feel
if that's what you felt like they were trying to embody?
No, I felt like the only thing I can say is similar is telling the story of how it is
to not have anything and be at the point to where it's like,
I don't give it down what I got to do as long as,
I'm not going back to this life.
Which is a good ground base.
Yes.
It's a good ground base to start off of.
Yeah, it is.
And it's real, you know.
It is.
They can't be mad because y'all went
got your same canvas board
from the same place.
They got it.
The picture ain't painted the same.
It's not.
It's just on the same type of bodymen,
the same type of canvas.
Well, heist films, you know?
It's a heist film.
It's a heist film.
You know, what are they shocked about that?
It's women because there's not a lot of women.
There's not a lot of movies.
Black women.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I set it off.
That's really that.
That's why that shit's happening like that.
Yeah, because imagine how many heist movies and shows there are.
And let y'all have been men.
Exactly.
Nobody would have ever gone.
Oh, this is like that.
Right.
This is like that.
No.
Like,
I think we're getting somewhere.
We are.
I think we're kind of getting somewhere.
And how we really look at this film, you know, because like I said, for set it off.
I mean, I love that movie, Queen Latifah, for Jada Pinkett.
You know, Vivica Fox.
Like, it's got some of the best.
in it you know nobody could ever read I don't think anybody could remake that some
movies are just one of one you know especially you know so I'm like for you up but
for y'all to like bring us something new should be exciting for the people that
have watched movies like set it off in dead presidents and other heist films that are
like that you know what I mean I think this should really bring some excitement to
people who like them who are like love movies yeah movie heads you know what I'm saying
this should be one for the record books.
For sure.
I mean, there's like every different type of movie has like a genre, right?
So it's kind of like I think about like narco shows.
There's a whole bunch of narco shows and the stories are all similar.
They all remember tell the same stories.
And then Greece is the South and then it's hotel cocaine.
So many, like, so many.
Pablo Escobar.
They all have their choice, but they all kind of look similar.
They are shot similar, you know, even the filter they use is like similar.
Yeah.
So it's like, you can't.
You can't base it on that because at the end of the day,
the people that like to watch these certain type of movies and shows
are going to want to watch, you know, Robin.
We've talked about the characters.
We've talked about the movie,
but I definitely want to know who you guys are as, you know,
for just your personality, you know,
I want to know, like, is there any other type of things
that you do other than acting, you know,
is there anything else you got going on?
100%.
So I just dropped a video called Feel Like to My Single.
I'm an artist.
I sing.
All of us are.
We aren't.
We didn't know that either upon casting.
I love this the first time you guys have seen each other.
Yeah.
Since filming this first time you guys have sat down and been able to mark together on this.
And I'm packed the lunch.
Yes.
Yeah.
But like I said, we're all artists.
I just dropped a video outside of my artistry.
I'm also a hairstylist.
So I just got on tour with Lady London.
I was her hairstylist for her tour.
She better paid you will
You're my people now
She better broke
She better broke bread
She's never do her hair again
Lady, that's my twin
Okay, that's my girl
Like
We're just a shit a little bit
We are in the sharp tank
We're in the dark tank
Yeah man
Yeah but
Yeah I wear many hats
I make clothes
I style I design
You smoke weed?
No I quit
You smoke weed?
I do sometimes
You know
I do sometimes
Would you like to smoke
I mean I know this is
This is a podcast where, you know, we do some very unique, you can let your hair down.
We do some unique things.
I mean, you came in with it down, baby.
We're just trying to help it get just a little bit more.
You did?
We got you.
He said we need volume.
Straight up.
We are here because I'm going to smoke.
I'm going to do my thing.
Please do.
I love that.
You know, I don't want it in true because you are my guests, you know, so I don't want
you to have to smell things that you may not want to smell.
You know, I smell really.
Some of the things I do is you can get a little louder than us.
You know, if anybody gets a contact high, y'all sign that thing at the door, hey.
We did.
We signed that thing at the door.
It will not be our fault.
We have nothing to do with that.
Got it.
That's a you problem.
It will not be, it will not be our fault, you know.
That's a, you said you had did a single.
You had just got done doing a single.
Yeah, I released the visuals to that.
Make sure I go check that out too.
It's real sexy, it's real nice.
So the type of artists I am, I do, like, Afro-Caribian, Afro-R-B vibes, yeah.
No, no, no, uh, yeah, no, ratchet baby mama shit.
No, no, no.
Like, honestly, like, prior to me, like, tapping into the Afro-Caribian vibe, because I'm Haitian, but, like, prior to that, I made, like, pretty girl, sad girl music.
Like, I like to sing.
Like, if it was up to me, like, we were talking early, I would always sing with a band or, or, like,
guitar. Yeah, why not?
But it's so funny because my aesthetic give, like,
rapper, like it gets different.
You don't see that. You don't think that.
But, yeah, like, ain't no
ratchet and shit. Shouts out to the ratchets.
I love y'all, but that's not.
That's not what you're trying to portray. Yeah, it's
not. Like, I gotta be true to myself.
That's how we express ourselves as an artist.
Because you feel like it's easy to hop in that game, huh?
You can make the nastiest song tomorrow.
And the crazy thing is, and the crazy thing
is, it's like, I really could rap.
Pop your Patsy all one time.
phone on camera and say, hey, I'm getting my rent page.
You might just have you a hit.
Exactly.
It's f***ed up.
And I say that, like, not to say that's what you should be.
I'm just like, damn, it's f***ed up because that's true.
It's like, you really got to struggle if you're trying to be a true artist.
Yeah.
Or you're just being true to yourself.
There's no true artist.
If you try to be a true artist, you got a hell of a road ahead of you.
Yeah.
But if you get on, like, that's what I love.
Then there's longevity.
Yeah, because her music, if that's the time of you're cutting that Caribbean feel,
your music can go longevity
if it does get on
because the world going to hear it's like
to get stuff on here in a box.
Exactly and that's why I make music
that I resonate with and I stay true
to myself because I don't like
to box myself and like I told you I
do here I do this and to know
me you can't put me in a box so
like when it comes to my artistry
I don't like that to be boxed in either
yeah yeah I mean I don't think
in the world we live in nobody can
be boxed because we all do
multiple things. No but no but
A lot of people do.
But what I'm saying, though, is that now I feel like there's more room for people accepting that.
Back, I don't know, five, even five years ago, you know, people are kind of like, oh, no, you're an influencer, or you're just this.
You got to sit to one thing.
You just got to stick to one thing.
And now I feel like, you know, there's more room.
And people are kind of acknowledging, oh, because she's, she does this, she does that, you know.
That's true.
But, yeah.
How about you?
I'm a Latin artist.
I finally left my label, so I'm, like, celebrating.
universal lie.
Okay.
You know,
not the shade on labels.
I just think that,
you know,
they want you to work
like an independent artist
but signed,
you know,
and I don't think that
that makes sense or fair.
So I had to get myself
out of the situation.
It's pretty much like
a,
and don't mean interrupt you.
I'm just trying to vibe with you.
You're pretty much saying
it's like a,
hey,
they try to use you like an authorized
dealer.
Like here,
you can use the name,
but you're kind of on your own.
Basically.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like,
you know,
you still got to put
out your music.
and push it and do everything basically,
like if you are independent and asking,
but you have to ask for approval to do anything.
So it's like, it wasn't really working for me
and also like I'm Latin, but I'm Latin American.
Like I grew up here, I speak English just as much as I speak Spanish.
So it's like I want to be able to use, you know,
both of my talents.
You know, I want to be able to tap into both.
And I was out in L.A. for like seven years
before I moved back to Miami to pursue the Latin, you know,
side of my career.
Miami's a good place to do it.
Exactly. Right now, like Miami's where to be.
So, you know, to me, it's like I want to be able to come back to LA and tap in and
and connect with the people that I've already, the relationships I built out here, you know,
because I was here for like eight years and worked with like, I was on two shorts podcasts.
I was like one of the hosts for a time and then work with Snoop for a little bit.
Like I was working with so many people that I'm like, I don't want to get rid of these
connections.
Like, this is things that I can use to my advantage.
But now I'm just, you know, trying to release music and.
and just do my thing on my own terms.
You're smart, because to be real, like,
one of them things gonna pop.
For sure.
Some got to get.
For sure.
If you keep trying a little,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But it's f***ed up because I always feel like this, right?
And I've said it many times.
I'm like, to get 100% out of anything,
you got to put 100% in.
You know, yeah, you can't really,
it's hard to really spread the time.
Yeah.
You know, or to spread that percentage out of it.
Because you'll never get it.
what you're probably looking for.
For sure. For sure. And funny enough, you say that because from like 20-20 to now,
my main focus has just been music. That's why like the acting is something I wrote
like manifesting, you know, I want to do this. But in reality, I wasn't looking for it.
You just left the spark and hopefully catch a flame. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because at the end of the day, too, like, you know, I don't like, like you said,
I don't like being boxed. And I also feel like when people think you're focusing on one thing,
you can't do other things, you know?
And at the end of the day, it's not like acting is taking away all of my time.
And that's it.
I got to forget about music.
Like, even working out here during the movie, I was able to get in the studio and attend,
you know, like music events and stuff.
So, and for me, like, I'm all about my work.
So I don't mind.
My whole life is about, you know, my hustle and my work.
So it's like, really I have the time to do it.
You know what I mean?
Like, especially if I think one thing could lead to the next.
Maybe it might be the movie.
It might be the song.
It might be a collars.
We never know, you know.
It might be a brand deal.
Like, we never know what really is going to take us to the next level.
And for me, it's like I'm a, you know, dip where I can and just, girl.
Yeah, exactly.
Y'all smart, though.
You don't need to be smoking on camera.
Smoking?
Y'all need to be smoking on camera.
Even if you do smoke weed.
Why, why?
Because you never know who's trying to pick you up and be like, hey, I don't want that.
Yeah, no, funny enough, I've never publicly, like, smoked or anything.
That's just like a meeting.
You know, you know, you know, you know,
Y'all was all smart, y'all passed,
because I was gonna tell you, no.
That's why I offered you.
You're not even gonna offer you.
I was like, you just, we know what your old, Gavin.
We know what you all.
Yeah, I ain't even, I don't even expected.
That's you getting silly like Sharp, you don't want to smoke.
I'm not gonna do that.
It's not a role we're playing.
You know, they pay me all.
I'm all f***ing blaze, you know.
Such an easy target.
I love it.
No, no.
I love it.
I love it.
I know you.
We love you.
We're not here on any type of drag, okay?
Oh, I know.
I feel the love.
No, that's dope, though.
Like, you know, that you're doing your thing, baby.
And I just hope that I thought it was very,
that's very smart of you to leave that spark real quick.
Hopefully it starts to flame.
You're like, no, I ain't really trying to take it too serious.
But if somebody likes it, somebody want to pick it up and come pay for it,
I got it on deck.
Yeah, exactly.
Let me remind you, I still have this type.
Yes, it's on deck and it's ready to go.
You know what I'm saying?
So like you said, I think you learned that from leaving behind those two sentences.
And that shit taking you to just another level.
You're like, so shit, okay, me leaving little sparks in the bush can light a flame.
And they're like the best one even when I'm not looking.
Yeah, no, for sure.
You know what I'm saying?
Straight up.
Look at that.
Well, look at that.
I'm definitely, you know.
I ain't going to lie, right?
Hey, guys, I ain't going to lie.
While we're sitting here having story time and we're in circle and we're in group.
I'm definitely curious to know.
Like, yeah, for you, like, what else do you do?
What do you think I do?
What am I giving?
Trying to start a crocheting business on the side.
A crocheting business?
Yeah, like where you got something going, you know.
Wow.
I don't know.
Interesting.
Very interesting.
Definitely not doing that.
You went way out.
He looked like you like skinless cats and drive Teslas.
Skin cats?
Yeah, you know the cats that don't got no hair and like, oh, that doesn't might be.
Oh, I don't like those cats.
I don't like those cats.
I don't like those cats.
Skinless cats and drive Tesla is interesting.
I don't even know what I, ah.
You seem like you have different beliefs.
Maybe that's the better wording.
You just seem like you got some different beliefs.
I'm interested in it.
I definitely do.
I believe.
No, I mean, yeah, sure.
We all do, right?
We're all individuals.
You have very different beliefs.
I do.
But, you know, I think some of my beliefs, you know, they're common to some street people.
So they have a common movement to them.
You know, as for you, I feel like, sweetie, it's just a one of one.
Oh, okay.
Nobody's, I don't think anybody's doing that.
Whatever the fuck it is.
What are you really doing?
Whatever it is you do that.
What are you really doing?
Like what do you do other than acting and music?
Like what's your?
Other than acting and music?
No, really, I was going to say,
what I do other than acting is music.
I love performing.
But I like these lovely women.
I'm just an artist.
I'm a performer and I love to be creative.
So whether that's on screen,
whether that's in the studio,
whether that's at home,
you know,
trying to make myself.
some food. It's all great.
You took cute interviews too, though.
I do. Oh, I do. I do street interviews.
I do do street interviews. You do the women on the street.
I do. I call it the people.
Yeah, woman on the street. Yeah. Which is so much fun. I'm not a man on the street. It's fun.
It's fun. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. People in L.A. especially are absolutely
are absolutely ridiculous. I don't know if you knew that, but.
I've been to some of the, if you watch some of the vlogs that I've done from,
I think I've done rolling loud. I've done show. I've done. I've done. I
I've talked to, like,
because I'll talk to celebrities and shit.
You know, I keep that because I got to get it for the people.
But, like, I'll go out there and I'll get in the mix with the people.
And you'll be surprised.
Oh, so surprised.
Fuck you run into, man.
Got a little white girl throwing up gang signs from Alaska.
I mean, he gets crazy.
He's crazy.
You get outside.
I mean, you got some shit out there, boy.
It's the jungle.
You know, you'd be surprised how people are living.
No, it's very true.
Because I just have a little tiny microphone.
As soon as I put that little pink mic in front of people's faces,
See all kinds of crazy.
What's like a question that you ask people out there?
What's one of your most famous ones?
You feel like it's the most traction.
Okay.
I have not gone viral yet for this street interview series that I do.
But I am going to continue because I know that it has a lot of potential.
At least I'm telling myself that.
But really every time I go out there, I put on an outfit.
I put on a lookieana.
I look my best.
I have my hair out.
I have my earrings on.
I look like a disco queen because that's what I am.
And I ask people, for context for our audience,
would you consider yourself a diva?
Why or why not?
And no matter what you look like, I ask you that question,
and people say some interesting things.
So you have some grown-ass men this, too?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Yeah, I definitely want to tune in that,
because I want to see how, like, people's reaction.
A lot of these men be acting like divas.
No, they're like, let me tell you, they might not admit it or know it.
But they are.
A lot of these act like full-blown bitches.
Right, right.
It's true.
Some people admit it.
And some people are really offended.
Yeah, right.
The soft girl is.
It's like everything.
Damn, to tell a nigger, hey, nigger, you in the soft girl here.
That's not.
No, but for real.
You don't make any nigger turn it.
You know how I tell you.
Wow.
You're a soft girl.
What?
I'm hot.
I'm hot.
It's true.
I'm fucking livid.
I'm fucking livid.
I'm fucking livid.
I'm fucking livid.
You come and livid.
Tell me, yeah, Sharp, you and the soft girl, Eric, cut it out.
What, Nick Brown?
We're having problems.
Be anybody to say some shit like that.
That's crazy.
But, like, I like how you use it because you use it a different sense.
You're like, hey, you'll walk up, you're on some disco queen shit, you know, and you ask
them, hey, you know, do you consider yourself a diva or what else?
What do you compare it to for them?
Do you consider yourself a diva or not?
Yeah, diva, divo, whatever you want to.
A divo.
Yeah.
A divo.
Yeah.
Never heard of that.
Never heard of that.
See, you learn.
Someone who every day.
What has to ask.
What you really are to, Gavin?
A diva.
Diva.
Diva.
Dive.
Whatever you want to call it.
Like, whatever, however you identify.
There's a way to say it.
I think I've seen some shit like that.
I think I think I've seen something like that on like that family swap shit one time.
And you know, it was like a diva family.
Yeah.
Where they swap like parents in the household.
You know what I'm saying?
We need to interview them.
Yeah, it was crazy.
And, like, they were acting like there was one couple that, you know,
it was a man and a woman to keep his short.
They had kids and everything.
And, like, he considered himself, like you said, like a divo.
You know, he was a diva.
You got to go pull it.
He was crazy.
Yeah.
Whole house.
So, like, just the way they lived, I'm like, bro.
Yeah.
Just tell them already.
Everyone has a different definition.
So that's also part of the fun because some people say,
oh, a diva is, you know, a bitch or a diva is someone that knows what they want.
and they're super confident.
You don't make it.
You're trying to make it okay to me.
Wait, make what okay?
It's not okay.
A man, being a grown-ass man and being called himself a diva,
just be what you are at that point, you know.
Yeah, yeah, just be what you are.
That point, be what you are.
That's what you are.
There's no judgment.
Brother, it's not that, brother.
It's not that, brother.
I love this.
I did not expect to talk about this at all.
I want to just say that.
It's not that, brother.
But I can't.
I will say, though, the reason for this interview series,
this street interview series I do,
I mean, it's so much fun.
I love doing it just because I have the best time.
But my album that I'm promoting is called Deep of the People.
So it's a part of, yeah, it's a part of just the rollout.
I'm trying to know.
I'm a marketing plan.
I'm also an indie artist, so we have to be our marketing agent.
We have to be our PR a lot of times.
We have to kind of wear all these different hats.
and for me,
Deve of the People is so,
it's just such a fun way to say,
like, hey, I'm glamorous
and I have my beautiful days,
and I am painfully average other days,
and I can be messy,
and I can be all over the place.
But yeah, I also have this other side of me,
and so I think it's just a fun way to say
I'm many different things at the same time.
And you all are too.
And you all are too.
I'll tell you this, right?
And he's not that a lot.
10 days of all y'all in the house together
non-stop
A lot of divas
Oh no, just some shit's gonna pop off
The personalities are crazy
You think so?
Yes
You notice stuff like this one?
Yeah.
10, 20 days.
I gotta ask y'all like would you
You know because you just being on film
It's hard to be to get comfortable
Yeah, yeah
It's hard to get like for some people
Some people got it like we were saying some people don't
Would you ever be, and I'll start with you,
would you ever consider doing any type of reality TV
for the right back?
The crazy thing is, so I started off doing reality TV.
I was on Black Ink Crew, New York.
Was you?
Yeah.
The fuck I was watching, I didn't see you.
I was a girl with the blue hair.
Yeah, the New York.
Yeah, right, that was you?
Yeah.
Oh, hey.
Yeah.
That was you?
Yeah.
So, that was you.
That was me.
That was me.
No.
We would happen out with the tea.
She said it.
I mean, I want the tea at this point.
Why was that, unfortunately?
Well, because, like, what you're saying, like, how would you do reality TV for the right bad?
I would do reality TV if I'm executive producing.
If I'm in control of what I look like.
If I'm in control of how my character is being spent.
Because what I know now from back then is that you.
are a pawn on the chess board.
And just like any other show,
there are certain characters that you need,
whether it's scripted or it's non-scripted.
You need somebody that's messy.
You need somebody that's promiscuous.
You need somebody that's a punk.
You need somebody who like to fight.
You need all of these different things.
And you take to a point,
because this is how you make good TV.
So it gets to the point, if you're not fucking or fighting,
you have no camera time.
I don't know why.
It's true.
So true.
You have absolutely no camera time.
So what I've gathered from that is I would have to be executive producing that.
I would need some residuals from that.
I would need royalties from that.
I'm not in a position in my career right now to where I think is necessary to be exploited
the way some people do for the sake of fame.
A lot of people get into reality TV because they want to be famous.
They don't want to be successful.
They don't want to be rich.
They want to be famous.
They want to walk in rooms.
They want to get notoriety from peers,
but they don't want,
they don't even know,
they don't have an end goal.
They don't know what they want to do after that.
And with me,
this is why I don't really bring it up unless I'm asked.
This is why if you go to my page,
you don't see it in my bio.
You don't see any of that
because I didn't want that to be my claim to fame,
so to say.
I didn't want that to be the thing
where people knew me as.
And in like the rooms that I'm in now,
if I would have stayed doing that,
I wouldn't be invited in these rooms.
Yeah, or be respected.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That respect and being invited, that's the same thing, you know?
Like, my contact list is different.
The spaces that I'm in is different.
Everything don't make the internet.
But that specific type of person, that character, that personality,
everything makes the internet.
Everything is posty.
Everything is, you know what I'm saying?
So for me, just,
where I am right now, like my artistry comes first,
whether that may be Jada Blue the actress
or Jada Blue the singer, but all that other shit.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean that for the kids, you know what I'm saying?
No, real shit.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you got smart
because there's not a lot of girls that's,
I mean, they're not really in position though.
Yeah, and I get it.
And make them demands like, hey, look,
like even as something that's subtle is like,
hey, look, this is how I wanna be portrayed
on camera, let alone coming in
being able to produce some shit, you know what?
From lows to highs.
I don't even think that they would be okay
with you doing that.
They'd be like, no, wait, we'll pass.
That's just real.
Unless you're turned up already.
And like you're super turk.
They know they want you back.
All right, let her run her and play.
Exactly.
It's no different from like being an independent artist
and making a lot of noise
and making a name for yourself
and having numbers doing your own tours
and then going to these labels like,
I need all my rights, I need my masters,
I need this, I'm owning this,
Because the ball in your court at that point.
So just like you said, if you are someone who's already lit
and they hit you up like, yeah, we want you.
The ball is in your court.
All right, well, I need X, Y, and Z.
If y'all trying to meet me somewhere in the middle,
all right, well, I can give you all this, but I ain't doing this.
And this need to be in my contract.
I'm not fighting.
I'm not doing this.
I think where I'm at with it is, and I don't mean interrupt,
but I just, because I feel you on that.
I'm just like, damn, it's fucked up because the ones that are up and coming
don't have a say.
They don't.
And they might be talented or this might be just a stepping stone for them.
I feel like reality TV should be a stepping stone.
It should never be somewhere.
You really try to set your feet in.
That's just supposed to be a place you stopped on the way to where you're going.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
Funny enough, I don't know if I grew up watching TV a certain way,
but I always felt like reality wasn't a route for anyone to get into the industry.
Because realistically, I didn't see anybody from reality.
you know, maybe like love and hip hop, you know, you saw some people like Cardi B, like a lot of people
that ended up, you know, venturing out doing them. But other reality TV shows didn't really
But they were controlled first, you know, remember that? Like, right?
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like, nobody, because of course they've made their money these days.
For sure, for sure. They hadn't to kind of be strung along first. For sure, for sure. You had to play the
role that they wanted them to be. You had to be that pawn. Which is what she was saying. She said,
she ain't trying to do.
She says,
nah,
I've been there and did that.
She means,
herself means more to her
than to be portraying the life
that she doesn't want to be betrayed in
for a couple bucks.
100%.
Because when you know yourself
and you're watching yourself on TV
and you look nothing like yourself,
that is one of those things
where people refer to selling your soul.
Like I never understood what that mean
until I'm sitting at home and I'm watching the episode
with my family.
I have morals.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of people have different backgrounds.
grounds and upbringers. A lot of people that I was working with, they didn't have relationships
with their parents. Some of them didn't even know who their parents were, you feel
me? So it was one of those things. They didn't mind losing their self in front of a camera
because they didn't have anybody else to answer to. But me, me and my family is close-knit.
So when these episodes is coming out, I'm getting phone calls, what? Like, what's this about?
What's this? You know what I'm saying? So for me, seeing myself and not being able to defend that
person that was on camera, because I didn't have any control of how that was being sent, was enough for me to be
Like, nah.
Tell them, Keisha.
Know Keisha was from belly?
Everybody's dad.
Tell her, Keeha.
Tell him, baby.
I don't know no fucking Kiana, man.
I don't know no fucking Kiana, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I'll take a shot.
Who the fucking assay?
She was sucking your middle-assie.
I like how she popping, though.
All jokes aside, she's keeping it real.
Because I feel like that too.
Like, yeah, there's some shit that a
that a mother can go really exercise on getting a real big bag now.
But how you're going to feel about yourself
and how you look and how you did it on camera.
Later on.
You'll be really happy with that.
When you want a man to take you serious.
Right.
And you want TV, your breasts out, and you're doing that's why it's, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
There's a way to do certain things, and it's a very fine line between tasteful and tasteless.
And, you know, those disrespects to nobody that do it, you know, but just me personally,
what I know and what I've seen and saw how women get exploited.
I can honestly say, I see.
I see why a lot of these people abuse substances
because a lot of time this is what they're feeding you
before these cameras even come up
so you don't even really know who you are
because you're inebriated like you're under the influence
so when you're watching yourself you humiliated
but you don't even realize that you're being exploited
and like no but I get it I get it
you got to lose yourself in order to become this thing
that they need you to be for this camera
to get this camera time and it's like
it just comes to a point where it's like nah
Like, is this who I want to be?
Is it worth it?
Is this what I want for myself?
Right.
So, yeah.
How about you?
Would you, would you take on any type of reality TV for the right bag?
Well, when it comes to, like, reality TV.
Because I know a lot of type of reality TV shows, like, for example, like, kind of like a ninja
warrior thing.
Like, if it's like that, then, yeah, I would do something like that.
Like game shows.
Like game shows.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
thinking about actually going and that's why I made the joke earlier.
I made the joke, it was just to open it up to see where everybody's going to be on this.
No, to be honest, no.
You know, I got offered before to be like in real loving hip, I mean, love and hip hop Miami and, like, you know, real housewives.
I'm not even a housewife, but like they wanted me to be the single girl.
And I just never, I never saw this, like, appealing and like I'm like zero fight girl or.
You should probably use that to your advantage, though.
going in on a show like that,
thinking about like the love of hip hop Miami,
going in on that,
it could have probably sparked you in a different direction
because you are in there by yourself.
You're not going to have to really fight with anybody,
and they're just looking when you find,
they just want you to find some love somewhere.
I mean, but it's kind of like how she was saying, though,
if you're not, you're fighting,
it's like, you know, and I just wouldn't.
The two Fs?
I'm very, I'm very private about, like,
yeah, like about my love life.
Like, to this day,
no one's ever known who I've dated,
and they don't even know.
Nobody know who you busted open to you.
Yeah, they don't need to know.
Like, it's not, my career and my life doesn't revolve about who I sleep with.
Like, that's my business.
And the scary part is you could have this love interest and you honestly don't even really have to date them.
Like, even with me being on Black ink, I could speak about it now.
But, like, there was people, you know, like certain cast members or whatever where I would be connected to, but we never really dated in real life.
We never slept with each other.
We never did any of that.
But they made it seem like y'all did.
Yeah, because that.
That's sometimes how they have to introduce you into story.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
It's not reality.
And ugly canvas to paint on.
Yeah.
So I'm good.
I don't want to be part of anybody's story or be played to be.
Those are ugly colors.
Yeah.
And I also don't like, I don't like to explain myself or have to like talk or try to convince
anybody of who I am.
So for me is like if they, and the sucky part is that once people already see you a
certain way, it's hard to convince them to see you any different way, you know?
So it's like, I'm not going to stay here and try to convince you of who I.
I am. Like, I just, I don't want to be put in a situation like that. Like, I'm good. Like,
and I already, like, at least right now in my career in my life, like, I also don't need it.
Like, I don't need that. You know, it doesn't matter. Like, also, like, I've always thought
about it's like, it's not about how much money I'm going to make or whatever. Like, I want my,
my trajectory. Like, I don't want any controversy or any bad, like, shit happens, right? But
I don't want to put myself in a situation that I can't control, you know? And that would be
putting myself in a situation that can't control. Very prone to the skin.
Yeah.
I would pass.
I would pass.
I would pass.
A hard pass.
Hard pass.
She jumped on it quick.
She said, yeah.
And she said after hearing these girls' stories,
I ain't got nothing to do with any of that.
I don't care about the,
it's not about the money sharp.
They can offer me a million dollars, you know.
Oh, man.
Hold on.
Yeah.
You haven't said, you know what?
No, no, no, no.
I would have.
I mean, that's how I feel like if I were to do only,
you know how many girls are making
so much money on Only fans, and I'm still like, nope, I'd rather be broke.
Like, you know, so it's kind of the same thing.
It's like, there's so many things, especially as women that we can do if it was about the money.
I feel like this, right?
I feel like, shit, a chick might as well go ahead and go, oh, at that point.
At least nobody's in your business.
You can tell anybody the story you want to tell them about you got your bread on OnlyFans or on porn or anything like that.
I mean, the proofs in the pudding.
It's a little bit different, you know what I'm saying?
When there's a chick that's kind of moving silently and she's just doing whatever she's doing,
who the fuck's gonna ever know.
Exactly.
They'll never know.
That's your word.
How are you?
Hey, that's a, yeah, that's a damn.
I don't even know this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, who the fuck is this?
You know what I'm saying?
That's the guy that's lying.
You put that shit on camera.
Everything tells everything when it comes to that and I understand that.
You know what I'm saying?
When you're trying to put it out there on only fans
and you're trying to put it out in porn,
you kind of can't say that anymore.
You know what I'm saying?
Or even mask it if you did need to go get a couple dollars
in this man.
wanted to trick off on you a little bit, you know,
just give you somebody like you money.
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying?
Give you somebody like you money.
Wow, I like you money.
Yeah, you know.
They ever touched a couple dollars like that.
They feel like someone I like you money.
It doesn't have to be on.
Hell no.
Hell no.
I can't even pretend.
Like that's the thing, like,
I can't even pretend.
I can't even pretend.
She said you've always
kept wearing clean cut.
Yeah, like I'm a relationship, girl.
I can't even entertain the nigger
that I don't even like.
Some people that'll talk.
For theirs, they'll talk.
Like, hey, shit, he's going to ski some mates wants to talk.
God bless them because everything that I think show on my face.
There's a cost.
There's a price.
For everything.
For everything.
For everything.
Hell, yes.
Wait.
No, you were just speaking out loud.
Yeah, those were your choice of thoughts.
And she just was speaking out loud.
I caught it, but she said it.
And I'm going to be real.
It's real, though.
There's a price.
There's a price.
For sure. Even if a man just quote-unquote wants to just talk.
That's right.
That's right.
That's all right.
I think that's a talent, though.
I'm not going to lie.
That is a talent.
I admire those women that are able to, like I have my mom's friends.
My mom's young.
So she always has all these young friends, whatever.
And I hear them talking.
This is even when I was like 14, 15, I would hear them talk.
And it's just like amazing how they would get money and stuff.
And just off hanging out or even talking.
shit we would even go to lunch with them sometimes
like I've met the guys and they were cool
whatever and I'm like they're paying
you just hang out like and it's a talent
it's honestly but I don't know what that talent
I love that I can't
I don't know
I'm sure you
what did you say I hear you though
I can't even pretend
I can't I think I'm like a hopeless romantic
kind of girl or something like I just
I can't
I can't pretend and I do
You know what's so crazy?
I hear about the girls
they're getting all kind of shit
from these niggas
and I'm like, how?
So what are y'all doing?
Like, what kind of lives are y'all living?
Well, you had your whole family,
so your shit was kind of masked.
People might not think that
because, like she said, of her appearance,
but I'll hear her.
She's really had a wholesome family.
Her people was really there for her.
Mama, daddy, brothers, sisters,
uncles, aunties.
They're going to family reunions once a year.
Yep.
There's a shit going on,
her family, so she's like,
I don't really understand it, you know?
Yes.
I do get that.
But there are some girls out there that's trying to get through acting school and trying to get through college or trying to get through certain things.
That might not have.
And guess what?
But they might just have their looks at the time to feed on or be able to push, you know.
And I see it.
And I'm like, man, there's always a price for everything.
Even if, like, a woman says, oh, damn, all he wants to do is talk.
Yes, there are men out there that just want to talk.
And they'll pay you for their time.
See, people have to fail to realize.
And people fail to realize here, right?
Not everything's about, people really do want true companionship.
Not a lot of people contain that.
You can't go pay for some money.
See, that's easy.
You can't really get, like, companionship isn't really around.
Well, I could tell you actually a story that happened.
Friendship, religious, I have a situation shit where they can sit back and talk
and the person act like they actually feel.
For sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's where I feel at.
When I first moved out here.
Yeah.
There's people out there and they'll pay.
their entire life.
Yeah.
Just to get it.
There's a lot of lonely people.
Yeah, a lot of lonely people.
I was just about to mention this, the situation.
So when I first moved out here, my mom moved out here with me and my little brother.
And she actually met a guy that she was working with that would eventually, like, the friendship
graduated.
And he kept, like, inviting us almost every, like, around Thanksgiving to have a dinner because
he didn't have a family.
And, like, he just wanted it.
And every time he lived, like, like, San Francisco, I think it was.
And he kept always.
inviting us like, would you guys want to go here?
Would you like always inviting us on trips and stuff?
And it was like he would stay somewhere.
We would stay in a house and wasn't like anything like that, you know?
But it was because he was lonely and he wanted a like family dynamic.
And we were a family.
So I think it was kind of like that movie.
I don't know if it was called Surviving Christmas, something like that,
but it was a Ben Affleck film.
So you guys are all actors.
A Ben Affleck film, right?
And he was, he played a millionaire, multi-millionaire.
And all he wanted to do was for Christmas was have a real family and be in the house that he grew up in.
So he went to the house that he grew up in.
It was a full-blown family there.
He paid them all to play as his family members for Christmas.
Yeah.
Told him, I'll give you, you're not playing right.
He says, I'll give you an extra $250.
Man, what they stepping in to play?
He paid for all.
I think Christine Applegate played in that movie.
And the dad, and the dude that was from Sopranos.
He played like the father.
The mom was from home alone, the mom that played at Home Alone.
Okay.
So it was all key actors, but like he paid them all.
to spend Christmas with him and paid them whatever it was.
So it's very, like, even though it was a movie, but just to kind of...
It's based on things that really happened.
Like, he just wanted to sleep in his old room.
Wow.
Had their son play like his little brother.
And nobody's trying to, they're just trying to, they're their f***ed up family.
And like, actually he brought them together being there.
Wow.
You know, yeah, comedy.
Like a drama.
Yeah.
But it's, it was good.
So it just goes a show.
It does it.
exists.
Yeah.
It is alive and with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
For sure.
I'm saying?
Where can people find you guys?
You know what I'm saying?
Everywhere.
Let's start with you.
Yeah.
Y'all can find me on every social platform.
It's the real J-D-B-L-A-H-B-B-Lu.
And, yeah, but one out of two, if you didn't know, now you do, yeah.
That's true.
Every platform, Lely Hernandez.
Maybe there might be one platform with an underscore, but if you just look up Lely Hernandez.
I'm everywhere.
Gavin.
Yes.
Why?
Why you guys?
Why you guys?
Gavin, yes.
Yes.
Oh, gosh.
Okay.
I am, I think I'm contact high.
I'm from you.
I know.
And that's why before I did it, I made sure I said it.
You warned you.
It kind of warmed all with you.
I was so sensitive to.
As soon as I lived.
Yeah, no.
It really did feel like a little contact high.
I am on every platform.
Gavin Turek, G-A-V-I-N-T-U-R-E-K.
Yep.
I swear.
This was very interesting.
You said this was very interesting.
Is this what you were expecting?
Like, from, no, not at all?
I like to meet people just like this.
You got deep with us.
Appreciate that.
Just normal?
I mean, I don't know if it's your everyday, but like it's like one of my everyday conversations,
I like to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love what I do.
Yeah.
These are the best conversations, you know, because I love these.
kind of into people ask me what do I like to do they'd be like sharp what do you like to do
on like your spare time like what do you like to do when you're not here or you're you're you know
not out on camera i say shit i like to have stimulating conversations over cocktails
yeah it's better than tv yeah it's better than any it is it's better because you learn a lot about a person
yeah yeah you know or the people that you're sitting with so this was a dope story time it was
adult story time everybody i hope everybody you know feels good here we're all we're
definitely thank you
I appreciate you all for sitting down with me.
Thank you for having you.
Appreciate you.
Hope you guys come sit back down with me once again.
For sure.
We'll have a single.
If you see my name, hit on your board and say, hey, man, you get you scheduled with me.
Y'all better show the fuck up or that's when we're going to get a little ugly.
You understand.
My, you better take us when we have a new single coming out.
I got a new single.
I got a new single.
You got a new album.
Hey, whatever y'all got going on, I hope that, you know, y'all chiming with me.
Come see me.
For sure.
doors always open.
Thank you.
Professor Sharp, we're in here.
We're gonna get down to the nitty-gritty.
We're gonna figure it out.
Yeah, I love that.
You understand.
Yes, understood.
Thank you.
Thank you, ladies.
Thank you for joining the seminar today.
Thank you.
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