No Jumper - Catfish & Bizzle Attempt to Reconcile After 10 Years of Beef

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

Adam brings together Catfish and Bizzle who haven't seen each other in 10 years to possibly hash it out, and this is what happened! ----- 00:00 Intro 1:00 Adam asks Bizzle what’s been his issue with Catfish and why he wants to __ him 1:30 Catfish explains his intentions for the debate 2:40 Bizzle on starting BMX after leaving the group home and starting to rap 4:00 Bizzle and Catfish talk about meeting each other at a Dave Mirra BMX Competition 4:45 Adam talks about Catfish introducing Bizzle into his friend group 7:20 Adam brings up the passing of Frankie Blue and Bizzle’s cross-country ride 9:20 Bizzle talks about doing crazy amounts of blow after Frankie passed 10:50 Catfish talks about fixing up Bizzle's bike and getting donations for the ride 12:10 Bizzle and Catfish discuss the 200-mile ride day and Catfish claims Bizzle lied about it 15:40 Bizzle talks about getting rides in Tucson during a hail storm and in Dallas after his bike chain broke 19:40 Adam reads Bizzle's post about quitting the ride and breaking his sobriety 22:30 Bizzle says that he’s a better and nicer BMX announcer than Catfish 26:00 Adam tells a story about Bizzle __ in bags in a garage and having sex with a crackhead 33:40 Catfish talks about Bizzle's SA and Catfish claiming he was doing it for attention 35:20 Adam brings up Bizzle losing his eye at a bar fight and Catfish gets upset that Bizzle brought up his friend who S 38:30 Adam asks Bizzle about how he lost his eye to a homeless man with a kn__ 43:30 Bizzle talks about his ra___ uncle that tried to k*** him 46:00 Bizzle breaks down during telling his story, says he's confused why Catfish hates him 51:10 Adam tells Catfish that he’s being unfair to not forgive or hear Bizzle out 54:00 Bizzle congratulates Adam on his big success with the No Jumper platform 57:20 Bizzle brings up the story about going to Las Vegas during the ride 1:03:30 Bizzle talks about inhaling a ton of carbon m__ and waking up chained to a bed 1:06:18 Adam tells the story of Bizzle giving him a K instead of an A before a 3way ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumber, coolest podcast in the world. Basically, what I've brought together today is two friends of mine who have been on the outs for about eight years. And you guys don't know them, but I'm pretty confident that their combined personalities will entertain you and that you will appreciate seeing this all get worked out on camera. This man right here, a towering brute, goes by the name of Bizzle, known him since, I guess the early. aughts maybe like 2013 14 that time period and catfish is a I mean really a long time presence in the BMX community announcer one time pro rider does all kinds of crazy stuff and I've known him for a little bit longer but you guys were friends at a period of time and then things didn't work

out let's put it like that just to give people a general overview of where we're at so I guess I'm just going to toss the mic to Bizzle first and I'm just going to say Bizzle what's at the top of your mind when you see catfish uh really what's been on the top of my mind for almost a decade now I just want to take these hands and strangle them pretty much you seem a little worked up oh dude I'm over here shaking I uh I am not happy with this guy I mean we're best friends yeah if you had to sum it up what would you say is like the major let's start to be a bit of beginning. Let him tell him tell a story. I know you at him for a long time and I know

that you thrive on chaos especially in this situation given the last year or so. Right. So I'm coming here not trying to end up fighting. I don't want that. I want to hopefully and I'm not saying that I'm going to be friends

with you Bizzle, but I want to put it all out there. You can tell your whole story. We can tell the story because there's a lot of things that the people can relate to that we can talk about things like mental health, things like substance abuse, things like, I mean, there's a lot of things that we can cover this whole relationship.

I agree. I want to be civil. And I want to be civil as well. I'm not going to be your friend after the end of this. And let's get that out of the way right now. People say, you know, you make up and kiss and, you know, forgive and forget, nah, bro. Because there's so much disrespect involved in what we're talking about here,

talking about my dead homies that if something happened to me, like what you did some of them, I will want my friends to arrive from me. And I don't even want to say their names because I don't even want to bring their names up to make it about this, but there are definitely issues, or if we bring their names up, please take the names out at them. But we could get into this

and that's one of the big driving forces behind some of the shit that you've done. But I'm going to let you tell your story first. Let's be civil. Let's start the beginning. Okay, well, I don't even remember what year it was. I feel like it was somewhere around 2015 or 16. No, let's talk about the beginning how you got into BMX. Okay. Well, that's actually pretty cool.

You don't have to go super long-winning on this. Yeah. No, but it's a good story. So pretty much, I was in the group home, all that, got out, and I went to, like, I aged out the group home, so I'm 18 now. And I walk around Freedom, and there's a festival going on. It's called the Mumfest. And at that festival, there's a stunt show.

And at that stunt show, there's these BMX riders going ham. And each one of these BMX riders got, like, candy, pang, like beautiful bikes. and I grew up on bikes before my parents gave me away and put me in the group home, I used to ride all the time. So I got naturally attracted to that. And then they thought I was funny. I offered my help with moving the ramps and all that stuff. And then they got into hearing me rap and sing.

And they're like, hey, well, once you come to the state fair in a couple of weeks and you can rap at the state fair, like perform. And I was like, all right, let's do it. it and then it's just history from there so you just got into the BMX scene basically yeah and around when did you meet catfish or when did you guys first cross paths i i remember it was a good night it was a great time it was uh at the king of the animal house jam that dave mirro through in 2009 it was the craziest like i haven't seen nearly as many competitions as this guy but i've seen like some pretty gnarly competitions and this was hands down my favorite competition

I've ever seen. He was announcing, had his lasers. Of course, he rapped. So everyone's like, you rap, he wraps, connected. We freestyled, like, for hours at the bar. It was a good time. And, yeah. And so then I feel like around, what was it, 2013 or so, the ride for Frankie Blue is going to be an important theme in here. What do you want to say before that? Well, now I was just going to say like talk about where how it all came to be like where we initially leading up to the ride leading up to that because we didn't really start hanging out until california when you moved up to californ i don't know when that was so this is when i was living out there yeah right and so 2012 you guys started to spend more time around each other and how would you characterize the

relationship uh it was fun we had fun he's a really good talented writer he's a piece of shit but he's a really good talented writer or excuse me a talented rapper he's got bars and uh and i got behind him when i was like looking because this has been a big theme. Shout out to our group text that I think that that's really focused. The BMX Illuminati. The BMX Illuminati is a group chat that we've had for well over 10 years at this point. And I remember the vibe in the group chat being very much like Calfish has a new crazy friend and he's going to try to bring him around all the time.

And, you know, it's just usual Calfish stuff is that Calfish will always have some new associate that he wants to bring around. and all of a sudden we're having this bizel guy shoved down our throat and there was a lot of conversation about like, okay, do we like this guy? What's this guy's deal? He's funny, but he also seems like he's out of his mind. And so that Catfish very much brought him

into our world and made him a part of whatever we had going on. And that's also, I mean, that's also a testament to BMX because I think that really, BMX is historic, it's so different to people outside our world that like, if you see somebody that doesn't have money or they're, you know, a different ethnicity than you.

It doesn't matter if they ride, like, you're going to welcome them with opening arms. And that's what happened with Bizzle. And then he ended up taking advantage of that goodness. And we're going to talk about that. How do you feel when he says that? Before we even get into the details. That doesn't even anger. That doesn't anger me. I think that's funny. It's so beyond the truth. Like that's the stuff that makes me laugh. Okay. Yeah. And you guys were still friends when Frankie Blue passed away, right? Best friends. So we were friends until two weeks after the ride started. What was your relationship with Frankie Blue.

That's the most fair assessment. That's the most fair thing I've heard of come out of your mouth. I got Catfish's God tattooed on my foot. It's like six, seven inches long, man. It's massive. This is the point in the podcast where everybody is watching hits uncliq. They X out the box.

Why? Because he has Catfish's God tattooed on his foot. No, I think that's very interesting. That's love right there. You also have, also you have Adams' first website. The come up. Oh, yeah, the come up. Budget.

Sponsored. But so, okay, let me try to move this along the court here a little bit. There was a rider named Frankie Blue. Yes. That was from, what, the North Carolina area? Greenville, North Carolina, legend. And he passed away. Yes, motorcycle.

And you were very upset by this. How well did you know him? How long did I know him? Or how well did you know him? What was your relationship to him? Man, when I lived in Greenville, I would wake up. I have really bad hangover, so I wake up. up a little bit later than everyone else, but I'd wake up, and Frankie didn't even live in my

house, but I would wake up and he would be there, you know? So I'll just start my day off, like, oh, yeah, Frankie, you know, so we all were a very tight-knit group. In Greenville, I mean, it was great. It was great. We had good times. We used to just go out on the college campus, right, all day. They introduced me to something, and I was a little bit younger than them, so they were like kind of my mentors. They introduced me to something called bird watching. I didn't even know what a bird was back then when you just go to the college campus and you know check out the bird

That's some good old-fashioned American fun right there Yeah I don't feel like I could do that anymore Back then Back then yeah Okay and so then Frankie Blue passes away

And you decide that you're going to do A cross-country ride To commemorate him On a BMX bike Now On a BMX bike Now first off before he had done that

and before he had died, I'd already been considering this ride for at least a few years or more because I love Forrest Gump. Like Forrest Gump, like that's, that is my jam. Like, I love Forrest Gump. So I always kind of want to do

the cross-country, you know, something, but I ain't no runner. Like, I'll run if the police is coming, but that's about it. Like, I ain't gonna go run for no reason, you know? So I was, I finally, you know, at the time it just seemed right it kind of fell into place and also to

mention like catfish was saying earlier substance abuse at the time man I was rampant on cocaine rampant like I was doing so much blow like and I was making good money selling weed so like I could really afford it and then alcohol like I was out of my mind

like I remember leading up to that point there was a couple of months where I'm not even going to lie like I felt like I was a ghost I was just sleepwalking pretty much and I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know how to stop. All my friends were doing drugs.

I didn't know what to do. And I was like losing my mind over Frankie too. And I was like, you know what? I've been thinking about doing this ride. I just need to get out of here. I'm going to go. And then that's when the plan formulated. And then I just did it like two weeks later.

I didn't really plan it. Like I just said, you know, I'm going to go. I need to go. And I went. And you encountered all. where things go south. And you started to encounter a lot of real difficulties with doing a cross-country ride.

You're getting flat tires constantly. I remember, like, you clearly didn't plan terribly well. We set his bike up. We went to we went to Epic. Right. Like, you were getting your bike put together. To put a bigger sea post on it and right. And I bought you dinner the night

the night you left in Huntington Beach. I bought you dinner. I bought you no way, dog. You bought me dinner. I bought you sushi and I bought Biz sushi. No, we ate at Gallagher's. No, that was that was before the ride. Shut up Gallagher's. Good spot. That was before the ride. Okay, you bought me dinner before the ride. No, you didn't eat. I bought you a beer and I bought Biz a beer and I got him so food. Okay, whatever he said. I remember the

on social media. You guys all drinking beers before you left. And I will say this, and I will say this, I fully supported him that night. That's the last time that I've seen him. And the last thing that I told him before he left is don't fuck this up because you've gotten thousands of dollars from BMX riders that are behind you. BMX because I we used our, we used our social media to let, donate, people that didn't know. How much? A couple grand.

In total, I think it was $1,800. Right. Okay. Yeah. Reasonable amount of sum to get you going there. Right, but it's from BMX riders that don't have money, they're supporting him because oh, it's a BMX rider raising money for another BMX. But he was raising money on the way as well. I'm just saying that like $1,800

I raise no money, but beforehand. Because you were going to stay in a tent and stuff too. So your expenses were very low. And I bought all the tent and stuff myself. I probably put three grand into it. I did. I was on the road for three months and I put $1,000 in my own every month. Okay. And so when would you say that things started to go awry? When did the catfish? Oh, with catfish? Well, yeah. Or, I mean, I know there was tons of like flat tires and you were just like getting fucked over. With catfish? I'd say two weeks in. The 200 mile day, the day that you said you rode 200 miles in a day on the next bike. Oh my God. Oh my God. God, that is not that complicated. Okay, there we go.

You grew up in New York. Adam. We grew up in New York. We rode from Hollywood to Long Beach. It was 35 miles. That was crazy. How long did that take us? It was weak.

Like seven hours? Thank you. Y'all were slow moving. I was hauling ass. Even people on road bikes, I don't think normally can do like 200 miles. You do 200 miles a day, but you're riding 15 and 16 hours. I'm an experienced bike messenger in New York City. Like, it ain't nothing to be out there and do 100, 150 miles in one day.

On a BMX bike. Where I was in the country, it was like 6% downgrade for a good portion of it, at least like 30 miles. And then you got, you know, not 6% downgrade, but you got more downgrade. It was a lot of downhill. A lot of down. I just want to look at the camera and say 200 miles on a BMX bike in one day. It wasn't 200.

It was like 160. I need the sound bite for TikTok. It's possible. It doesn't really sound super likely. 200 miles in one day on a BMX bike. I ain't rode like that in a hot mini. I could do it right now. Bizzle, you didn't do the ride.

You could follow me in a car, and I'd do it right now. And so, but how did you decide that you thought that he was cheating? There's a little thing called geo-tagging, and it just had started, and he was in, that's how we knew. We called him out about, he was at a water burger in the morning, and he was a water burger at that night, and they're 200 miles apart, 190 miles apart. I do not eat water burger. I've never been there.

That's not my thing. Can we call the jury in? What's the jury going to say? Oh, yeah, we smoke it? Yeah, you want to get high? Hell yeah. Smoke Bizzle. I just quit smoking.

Are you going to become like a different person? Right now. You still? Right now. I feel like what do you smoke, K2? Fuck, I wish. I ain't seen that shit forever. I don't want to see you on K2, bro.

Oh, he got a blunt ready. Oh, yeah, man. I got a few blunts ready. This is my kind of white boy. I forgot about Bizzle, man. Did you got any music you can drop for this? Well, I dropped this song today. There you go.

Let's take advantage of this 15 years. Are you still driving music? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That's actually what. I'm about to move back to New York. So there was no cheating at all involved because I remember Calfish accusing you essentially of having gotten rides in some sort of truck or something and that that was therefore cheating

on this ride. Like you were under the impression that he was going to ride every inch of this ride. I mean, I understand if it's raining, but a 200-mile hitchhike is not, if you need a ride in the rain for five miles, but a 200-mile ride in a car is not doing the ride. Look, it's like a three-hour. This, for me, I don't care about BMX anymore. Like, I ride- See, I do. It's my life. That's why I'm doing this.

I ride for, oh, yeah, care. You're doing this because you're old and bald and you need the clout. Freaking, you don't even ride. Play your song. Play us a song. Play us a song. We're not playing songs. Yeah, because, like, I don't know.

To me, like, if somebody says that they're going to do a ride across the country, oh, wait. I never thought that it seemed that important. important that you ride every step of the way. It is important. It's such a massive distance. What I was trying to say about BMX is, yeah, I'm a ride the rest of my life. I got mad people with BMX.

I love all that. But after what he did to me, I don't trust nobody in BMX. That's why I don't care what BMX thinks about me. For me now, it's just about having fun. You're not going to see me out no jams. You're not going to see me at no contests. You're going to see me in the streets, you know, having fun. So from your perspective, how did he turn his back on you?

So this is what I'm saying. Like, I don't mind putting out the raw shit about this. I did get a few rides on that. I did. I ain't going to deny it. And when I did got those rides, see, this is your thing. You blocked me immediately. You didn't even follow it.

So you didn't know. That's because I was in Iraq and you posted my phone number on the internet. Yeah, and they should have beheaded your ass over there. They should have let your little terrorist ass on the base. Look me in the eye when you talk to me. Why would I look at your little piece of shit ass? Come on, bro. So, anyway.

So you did the ride. So anyway, this is the times I got the ride, I can tell you right now. I got a ride for about 50 miles. It was in Tucson. It was hailing. It was hailing like a motherfucker. I'm talking about thick-ass hail. And this guy, he saw my American flag waving on the back.

And he saw my American Captain America shield on the front. And he came back and he's like, yo, hop in. And I was like getting my ass handed to me by this hell. said fuck it so he took me like 50 miles so i got out the hail and it was dark so that was in around tucson and then i got another ride uh now this is probably about shit maybe like 150 200 miles outside of Dallas Texas uh all my tubes worn out uh the chain broke too my chain tool broke i couldn't even fix it and when i posted online some people in Dallas said yo there's nothing for, you know, a very long time, you're not going to be able to survive out there.

We've got to come get you. Also, another thing I posted, everybody saw, and people were like, yo, that's dope that the BMX community would drive out and get you. And then the last time that I got a ride, besides- What about the trip to Vegas? That was not a ride. That was a flight that I paid for with my own money to go to my best. And we'll get to that.

And the last time I got a ride was in Georgia, not in Georgia, South Carolina. In South Carolina, I'm right at the border. It's two days before Christmas. State Trooper, he pulls over, and he's like, you're not riding anymore. Like I told him what I was doing. I told him I've been across the whole country for three months, and I was almost there. He's like, you're not going. You're done.

You can either go to jail or you can call somebody and then come pick you up. So had somebody come pick me up from North Carolina and then drive me the rest to Greenfield. But at that point, I'm already on the East Coast. And everybody in Greenville, they know about this. Like, they don't give a shit. For them, it was about, you know, honoring Frankie. Now, and I got a bunch of, like, 10-mile rides from cops. Like, everywhere in Georgia, Alabama, they were not having it.

So you talked to cops as well. They were so mad. Like, they would pull me over on the, I'm on the highway. They'll pull me over. You got to talk to them. And they would say, like, you're not doing this in my county. I'll take you to the next county line. and you can risk it there,

but you're not doing this in my county. So, like, I got a bunch of rides from cops throughout that, but that's it. Yeah, like, to me, it doesn't seem like enough reason to end a friendship or to publicly call somebody out or to block them. Like, like, if he was trying to set,

if he was trying to set a world record or do something where there's this, like, real sense of integrity, where he needs to pedal every single fucking mile of it, I guess I could understand. But the thing is about riding cross country is that you're just going to, and you're going to end up in a lot of situations where you're like you're saying with the cops

pulling them over and saying they're going to give you a 10 mile ride whatever it's like you know on these highways and stuff like you were riding i i you planned the ride horribly if i recall the ride though he left his bike in mississippi mississippi read that they're but you were supposed to make it where to north carolina that's an actual post that he posted that said the ride is over i broke my surprise i fucked two cougars okay yeah read it out loud because they would like this That was in Atlanta. Okay, you wrote,

I've been struggling with my sobriety these past couple of weeks. This is what Bizzle said. I really miss getting into crazy shit. Last night, I got loose as fuck and got kicked out of Steve's stand-up show. I lost my wallet, my phone, headphones, and I no longer have a bike anymore.

I have no idea how I got back from the show. All I remember is banging two blonde cougars who kicked me out of their car. It's 2 p.m. and I'm still drunk from last night. So disappointed myself, the ride is over. I'm stuck in Atlanta. I'm never breaking my sobriety again. Yeah.

And that, that, uh, that, uh, that what happened was I lost my bike. And now I was stuck in Atlanta for shit, at least two more weeks. I feel like until I finally saw it on, uh, Craigslist. And I went and got my shit back. And then I got back on the road. But then I only rode from Atlanta to like 50 miles south of North Carolina. So yeah. But that's still another like two, three hundred miles like as far as buck.

I mean, like what do you think? I think it seems like a silly reason to end a friendship or to block somebody. public could call them out for like maybe not maybe you know fudging the numbers a little bit on this ride he took advantage of bmx riders he he took a stole money from a dead dude nobody in bmx first off you didn't have to have frankie's mom call you and hear her crying wondering why you're doing this i had frankie's mom calling me telling you to stop it what you're doing no whatever whatever other other people in greenville were upset with you because you didn't even know frankie and no shit because you're trying you was claiming i'm not doing this for frankie i'm not doing this for frankie

doing this for all the people that you took advantage of all the good heart of being I don't know if anyone really feels like that though right no it's only 1800 bucks he even had me confused it's the process it's the process right I had I for years I did thought everyone in BMX hated me I've been out here now I came back to California I've been out ain't nobody hating me I don't think people I would think probably like around one percent of BMX writers even knew that this was going on yeah even at the height of it this is going to get four views well I mean you're just saying like back then Nobody knew, right?

It wasn't that big a deal. I think the reason why this happened was because a couple of weeks before I started the ride, we came actually that was the last time I saw you. We came to the come up and, or maybe it was the awesome shit.

Some shit story downtown, right? I feel like I'm having a stroke. Well, no, because he would come to the jams and he was kind of being the life of the party. He was doing a bunch of crazy shit. I'm kind of going for this narrative. Maybe Calfice was jealous of the attention that Bizzle was getting in the BMX. Well, that's the thing.

Remember, because it was the come-o jam where he walked in the pond where he cut his feet. We're definitely going to talk about that. Well, he was there. Biz was there. We pulled up. And then I remember you were upset because for like a couple of months, he had been, you know, skipping out on come to do some interviews or something. You were upset. And you said, and I know you said it jokingly, but you said, damn, but you've been fucking up.

Maybe I should just get Bizzle to do your job. and when you said that I saw a look in his eye he looked at me with murder and I never seen him look at me like that and I didn't think about it at the time but I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why he would do this to me

and I think that's why. Is that a real thing? You can't compose a sense? Well that's why I'm asking you why I want to know why you did it. You think that I'm you're going to take my job? Well I mean I'm an announcer I'm freaking way nice than you so many people in BMX do not like you I could easily take a job.

Bizzle, tell the people in Saudi Arabia that are flying me there next week. Tell them that. Okay. They don't know what the hell's going on. I know. They don't speak English. That's what I'm saying.

I'm not looking to the Saudi Arabians for a nuanced viewpoint on DMX culture. But I mean, yeah, like that was the day that the people deserve an explanation of this. There's an old on some shit jam video online from 2014. You could probably find where Bizzle came and we went to that park in, uh, in like downtown.

LA area. It's like a pond. On the turtles. Yeah, it's maybe like four feet deep, which maybe you didn't know at the time because you jumped in. You're like, and I didn't know that much about you at the time, but you're a big fat guy with a giant beard, long hair, right? And you jump

into the fucking pond, and immediately you cut your feet open. It's beautiful though. I had the sweet ass, you saw me, I looked like a eagle out there. Right, but you cut your feet open on the glass on the bottom of the floor in the pond, and there was also a lot of duck shit. I think we were all my mouth.

I still like every time someone mentioned that that moment because a lot of people saw that moment and they mentioned it and then I'm just like, ugh. Yeah. And we're all really worried that we're going to get like a real infection. The combination of your feet being cut open and the duck shit. I hit my cars, burnt my fires, stabbed. Nobody swims there. There's tons of homeless people in that park and they don't swim.

I did that for you. I did that for you. You did do it for the video for sure. I would plan on coming out there. I'd pre-party. I'd plan on doing the craziest shit. I wanted to be the craziest. And he taught me that.

He's the life of the party. You should have him on Plug Talk. Hey, man, my whole life, I wanted to get some porn star now. Come on now. Well, you're the one with the porn dick. Oh, yeah. Thanks for talking about that last week on Sledge. I got a photo of him.

He was in the industry before you. He's got a photo of a dude about to blow a load on his face. That is not true. Legendary photo. It was pretty real. It looks like you to me. It looks pretty real. I've had, like, I sit around to the meme gods,

and we've debated, and it looks pretty real. I could bust it out. I got it in my... I'm sure. I can imagine it perfectly right now. I'm sure you do. For the record, it's not catfish. It's just a guy that looks like him.

But I also think it's important to say that Bizzle has been like the... It's like been our own personal meme in the BMX Illuminati, where sometimes I don't follow you with the only post that I see are what Biz posts and a group text, and you're so out of your mind that it's funny. And I think it's like, maybe it was built up more in our minds, the catfish Bizzle beef. But see, that's what's interesting is that Bizzle at one point lived with our good friend Bizz.

He was living in the garage. And the number of stories that we heard during this time period, I mean, I'm just going to cap it off by saying that one of them was, you were shitting in a bucket. And you had a bags, bro. And you had an old pair of jeans. And you would be cutting, ripping pieces off. jeans to wipe your ass while you were living in the garage.

I don't remember the jeans. I've always been a shorts man myself. Maybe it was shorts. Yeah, I don't remember that. But then also there was a point where I believe that you were, you and somebody else were fucking a crackhead on the porch. Was not a crackhead. She was a stripper.

She might have been a crackhead on the side. Right. I don't know. We all know the difference between a crackhead and a person who's just doing crack. The reason why I was in Viz's garage is because I got an eviction. at my place across the street because I brought a chick back and also two of my BMX homies

who you know I won't say the names afterwards if you want to know I'll tell you but yeah we had a what is that three dudes we had a foursome with one chick yeah one chick we were fucked up

on the front porch and I remember imagine what that smelled like did you ever apologize to biz for doing that in his neighborhood oh it was across the street Oh, that was at your crib? Yeah. Oh, this is before you came to the garage.

And this is how you know it was fucked up. This is how you know we're going too crazy. It's because at like four in the morning, some French people that had just moved in a couple weeks prior, they literally came down and seen us on the front porch and said, I mean, I can't do a French accent. Went in a French accent, there's like, really? Like, really? And, you know, from what I ain't been there, but I hear they get down. So, like, if they're saying, it's got to be bad.

But it was funny because the next day, like, I left after that. went out and partied some more because I'd go for days of the time back then and I left after that and next day my roommate's like yo fucking like 10 30 in the morning he shows me the eviction notice he's like yo like what the fuck there's chicken wings on the front porch broken shot glasses and a futon the futon was in the front of the house well it was inside but I put it on the outside because my roommate had told me specifically not to bring the party back that night because that's what did because he had to work the next day. But he knew I was going to bring the party back,

so he left and went to his girlfriends. But I didn't know this. So I took the party outside instead. So that's how that happened. And it was funny, too, because I just bought that futon, and she squirted all over it. It was a big-ass puddle. And then I sold that futon.

This is one of the worst things I've ever done. I sold that futon on Facebook Marketplace shortly after for the same amount I bought it. I feel like I'm having a stroke. But was the squirt that gross? Probably old as shit. The what? Was the squirt that gross?

I feel like a lot of squirt is like almost just water. Be honest with you, I don't even remember the squirt. What the fuck is life? I had a, uh, I had a girl squirt all over my couch, Adriana Chetchick, actually. Oh, shut up there. We didn't, we didn't get a new couch. I just let it rock. I keep that shit.

We got it cleaned. What's it smell like? Whatever. They say it's B, but I didn't smell it. I got rid of it because I was moving into business. Business shit. So I was like, oh, I- Biz told us a story about him making out with his girl or whatever

and Bizzle had to take a shit and he, like, knocked on the door and interrupted Bizz. Is that true? I don't know, man. I don't remember much from that time, man. I was fucking going crazy. I was partying hard. Probably there was only one bathroom.

I say all this just to say that him, you know, having outdoor group sex and him wiping his ass with shards of a pair of Tommy Hilfiger jeans. that that wasn't any cause for concern in your mind. But then him cheating on, like, I'm going to say less than 5% of the cross-country ride. Yeah. Like not a big percentage. I feel like you accomplished the bulk of what you set out to do aside from the parts that were basically like almost impossible.

Well, I just, I know from people that he did not finish the ride. I had to walk a lot of it because you can't like when you're going up a mountain and you got all that gear, not riding up that. Yeah, no way. And then you're riding down these mountains. And this this 8% downgrade, are you shitting me? No brakes? What other, how many, what are some other big days? You had a 200 mile day. What other big days? I was averaging around 80 when I was in. Get the fuck out of here, dude. Oh my God. 80 miles a day on a BMX. Any, any bike rider that rides around Manhattan as a messenger will tell you that ain't nothing. D blocks, roadblocks. He would, He would tell you he'd do his $150,200 miles like at 8.9.

If that's the only thing in the world that I had to do, I definitely think I could do 80 miles in a day. Hell, yeah. Because we would go around New York City around 30 miles in a day, just fucking riding around for no reason. And we're spending half the day sitting around. I wasn't sitting. I was pedaling.

I was trying to get the, it sucked. I was trying to get off that road. Got 18 wheelers blasting by my ass. It's hot and it's cold. All sorts of shit. I ended up on a military base one time. That was fucking terrifying. ended up Google Maps, man, fuck Google Maps.

Sent my ass off into a desert space. As soon as I get off in there, it says, on each side of the road, warning, unexploded ordinances. Do not leave path. I'm just like, I was like, fuck, I don't know what an unexploded ordinance is, but I know what exploded and unexploded is,

and I know what the ordinance is. So that's a bomb, you know? So fuck, it's an unexploded bomb. I'm fucking losing my shit. So, but I don't know where to go. So I keep going. And then out in the middle of nowhere, I'm out of water at this point. I'm stuck.

I don't know where the fuck I am. There's Adobe huts. Looks like motherfucking. I saw you just saw Star Wars recently. Like some little huts, you know? With big assholes in the shit. And I found out, Koji Kraft told me that's where the helicopters go in and train. They got a, I don't even know if I'm supposed to say this.

But out there, they got a model of the Moscow capital building. they got a model of a castle like all sorts of crazy shit and all of them got big assholes from helicopters Wow But they came in on Humvees man It came in on Humvees It was two Humvees

They came in They were shocked to see me I was like out there in the desert far They were shocked to see me And but I have my Captain America Damn shit on the front The Shield And they were like

Whoa yo what are you doing I said I really need some water That was the first thing I said Can you please take me to some water? And then they just like, yeah, put me on the truck. I told them what was going on. And they loved it.

Like they loved the Captain America Shield, took photo with me. And then they drove me off the base to the gas station that was like 10 miles down the road. And I dropped my ass there. I got water. So shout out to whatever that base was for saving me. Sounds like a fun journey. So you don't feel any remorse about the way that you treated them. Like you can't acknowledge at all that there was anything wrong done on your.

part? No, because I was his friend and I had his back from the beginning and then he lied about the ride. He stole money. He lied about stealing money. How do he steal money? I could tell you everyone who donated it and was all my friends. Right. I feel like if you knew Bizzle, you probably knew that there was a chance that this ride wasn't even going to happen at all. Never like. Like, I feel like everybody. It didn't. It relatively didn't. He wrote 95% of it. But then, okay, so then that that's one whole issue. And I would think our group text kept it alive. But then the other big issue, and this is the talk, the thing I was going to talk about about mental health and suicide,

because all of us have had friends that have, you know, unfortunately died of suicide. We've all had suicidal dogs. We've always had suicidal dogs. We've always had suicidal dogs. Yeah, bring up stuff that you can't get blamed for, sure. No, what I'm saying is, and I'm... He tried to kill himself, and I bet that he's going to blame some of that on you.

No, no, no, no. This is before that. This is before that. A good portion, but not all of it. But he's done it, like, multiple times, and it's like, as a friend, you have to separate yourself. where I say like, you know, if you see a cry for help from somebody that is in a bad place, you reach out to them, you try and help them, which I did for him multiple times. And then he gets better, and then a couple months later, he does it again. Where in my mind, it's like you only get one cry for help, maybe two.

When you keep doing it multiple times where then it becomes less of, hey, help me, more of a cry for attention, or I want to see how many people care about me. I think Bizzle's got a few sincere suicide attempt, sent him. I'm going to be real with you. I don't think they were like public cries for attention. They weren't. It was for real. Yeah, I mean, you've been through.

We have the list. And I still don't count it out for me. Right. I still don't count it out. I personally, after that last one in the RV, like what the doctor said and all that shit, like I personally don't, I might be able to take, I know this sounds crazy, but I might be able to take two handguns, boom. And somehow I might look a little wild afterwards. I might lose another eyeball. but somehow I feel like I might

would survive. Like I've just been through somewhat shit and I don't do that And I would be And I'll say this right now I'm glad you're alive I'm glad you're still here I don't want to be around you

I'm glad you're still here You said that was death I want my dad I have because he's got upon me as well He said he's gonna beat my ass When he sees me How can you justify that?

He lost his eye in a bar fight And you said that he deserved it That's a call karma Karma I wouldn't wish that on you But my fact is the fact is that he tried it multiple times and we went out to him to try and do it.

The last time he did it, he posted a picture on Instagram saying, thank you, blank, blank, our friend that already passed away, this is a great idea. And you tried to kill yourself blaming my homie that's already died. You didn't know him. He wasn't. That was right. I'm glad you actually bring that up. Why would I not, bro?

You're talking shit. I wasn't blaming. You're basically putting your suicide on my friend that already died that you didn't know. How are you going to judge him for what he said during a moment where he was down so bad that he was trying to kill him. I'm glad that he's still here. I'm glad that he's still here. But that's the type of person that he is. That's what I said.

I had multiple friends have addressed me on that because I was so fucked up and out of my mind. What I was trying to say was that that person had the success rate. They knew that was the best way to go. and I was just trying to say that, you know, why even bring, why even bring his name up? You didn't even know him. I shouldn't have. I was fucked up out of my mind.

And I'm sorry for that. And I'm sorry for that. And I'm sorry for that. But that's the main reason that I don't fuck with you anymore. Okay. Yeah. Because he mentioned this person's name. Bro.

I mean. Can I apologize? But if that's your friend, I mean, you're going to. That wasn't his friend. It was before his time. What are you talking about? You knew this person pretty well, right? What are you talking about?

It was I did not know He was before my time Okay And I highly doubt that he He probably looked up to him I highly doubt that he knew him He might have

I'm not Do you know Ro for him By company? Circus He wrote for DK That's how much you know About BMX

Okay Well circus Former DK team manager For everybody out there That's what he's saying He spent a lot of time with him Yeah And a lot of his stunt show riders

He owes money to Ooh, sure got Zach Gerber on here too Mm-hmm That would have been a good one That would have been a really good We can do that We should go against all the people We should get his baby mama

MECs She get his baby Manna From what is it What are you talking about now Why are you bringing up my fucking family It's not your family I know you don't send no money back What are you talking about

If I had a chick And a kid My ass would be over there I wouldn't be over here I'd tell you that way Okay What's going on in Estonia Yeah

It's called there Yeah He turns 10 next month. 10. What's the relationship like? Talk to him all the time on FaceTime. I saw him. He comes to the States for a year.

Or excuse me, for a month every year. COVID was really rough. Well, I'm sorry, then. I could tell that hurt your heart. No, I didn't hurt my heart. I shouldn't have done that. No, it's just like, that's what, I knew that's what coming in that you were going to do because you have nothing going on.

So that's why I said, let's play some of his music. Give him his 15 seconds, 15 minutes. Take the glasses off. Take them glasses off. Not only got a DJ. Why? Because you want to see. by one eye.

No, I'm just saying. Yeah, that's exactly what you want. Let's hear about the one eye. How did that go down? Yeah, please. I'm so excited to hear that out of your mouth. That's mental health right there. So,

uh, I'm living in South Jersey at the time in Camden. And this shit's kind of a little rough to talk about. But I'm living in South Jersey and Camden. And my boy is moving away from Philly. In South Jersey, Philly, they're right there. You can get over the bridge in like 12. minutes and he's moving away from philly so he's like yo i need you to come to my going away party

and he popped it on me last minute and i didn't want to go but i love him but i also had bottle service at a club in new jersey that night and uh that was already set up free so i really want to do that but i was like no my boy i'm going to go went to philly had a good time uh for a couple hours walking with my boy around town then we get to the spot where everybody's going to meet up there for 15 minutes it's a pizza place but they also serve alcohol and uh i had like a slice of pizza that's it like and now i had my drink but that's how like i was not there long and i went outside to smoke and i sat down at a table and uh the whole bar was mostly white people but uh at that table outside it was black people And, you know, I was giving away as a child and sent to a group home where it's just all black people.

So, like, that's who I naturally gravitate to. So that's where I gravitated. Sit down, having a good time talking to these guys. A couple of them even made music. So we're exchanging our music and stuff, having a good time. Then this one guy walks up out of nowhere off the street, like he wasn't there. He walks up. He asks if anybody has a light.

when he walked up, everybody looked scared. Like, they looked a little nervous. And so I was trying to be easy. So I was like, yeah, I gave him my lighter. He lights his cigarette, puts my lighter in his pocket. I could tell it was the way he did it. It was disrespectful. I could tell he was trying to, you know, be a dickhead.

But I was nice. I was like, yo, that's my lighter. Let me get it. Nothing. I was like, yo, second time, that's my light. Nothing. Third time, it's like, amen. Like, I'm not the one.

His boy taps him on the shoulder. Give him his light back. Doesn't even look at me. Hands it back to me. And then shakes his head, like, you know, doesn't say anything, but just shakes his head. Like, okay, walks off. And this is my fault.

I should have known better. I spent a ton of time in rough places. I should have known better. I should have fucking known better. I'm sitting with my back face to the street. He walks off. I thought he left. I'm going back to talking the rest of the people at the table.

Not even two minutes later. He snuck, doesn't say anything. He went in the kitchen of the restaurant, got a steak knife, walks out, comes up behind me, doesn't say nothing. Luckily, he had just got out of prison a couple of months prior. So, like, he was like an in-and-out type inmate. So he didn't actually stab me. he shanked me.

That's how he got the blade out without no one noticing because he had it hitting like that, it tucked. So when he came up, he shanked me. So I only got like, you know, who knows how much blade, but I didn't get the full blade. So then I immediately, like, growing up in a group of him, shit, like we fight, like all the time.

All the time, I fight. I turn, grabbed him by his shoulder, took him down, beat his ass. But, uh, lost the eyeball. Damn. You go to jail? I'm sorry. He was in jail.

for they got him two months later he was in jail for three three and a half years because of the COVID shit just waiting on trial and then went to trial and they did time served he was guilty on all all the charges but they never found a weapon and he never said shit like if you ever this is he did it right if you ever do anything never say a word he never said anything the whole time and he got out wow yeah that's terrible man I'm sorry. Thank you. How can you justify saying that he deserved it?

I feel like the people at home are going to just want me to drill down on that because how could you say that? Well, I mean, there's a lot of anger built up that has been years of built up anger. I hate you. I wouldn't want that to happen to you. Honestly, you couldn't fathom the amount of anxiety and PTSD and that comes after that and then how it changes, how you interact with everybody and everything. I would not

I wouldn't put that on anybody nobody that shit is bad real bad I wouldn't put down on anybody yeah and honestly like respect for your temperament in the fact

for the face of like him having said shit like that because that is fucking gnarling I wouldn't even do that to the guy who stabbed me yeah I wouldn't even want him to experience that right my uncle my uncle tried to shoot me with a gun about a year and a half two years ago and I died dived and missed it, but, like, he still, like, wants to kill me.

And I wouldn't wish that to him. What's that about? Oh, he's just a racist-ass hillbilly. One of the things that really bothers me and causes a lot of my depression is being given away as a child. And when I was coming up on turning 30, I was like, man, like, I don't want to go into my 30s feeling like this. Like, I want to move past this.

I got to at least go to my family, search them out, find them. try to make something like if it don't work whatever i got to try and i went and didn't work out uh most of my family like i thought because i had changed over time maybe they changed but most of my family still racist as hell uh they have they don't like me right they don't like me so wow yeah i i can show you some of the most craziest shit ever he's texting me like some of the beyond and the thing is what scary is there's a lot of people like that out there in this world and they they really think some evil shit like they want to go out and eliminate like they're fucked up like it needs to be addressed i would say honestly like the main emotion that i'm feeling

right now is just kind of like ashamed that i sort of laughed along when catfish was on his like anti-bizzle campaign because it just really seems kind of cruel. I'll be talk shit on my dead homies. You fucking. Talk shit on your dead homies. It doesn't really stand up. You stole money under the guise of, of, you know, doing something good. I don't really, you went through it.

I feel like all these allegations seem kind of weak. We have the list. You have the guys are out there. And like I said, I know you want, you want conflict out of them. The thing is, I still, a good portion of me still loves catfish with all my heart. But I could never, you know, we can never be friends again no matter what. Like, I don't care if he was like,

yo, I got $10 million. I wouldn't. You know, like, but I, it's just like, I would have taken care of him, and I'm going to be rich. Like, I've not been through all this shit that I've been through in life.

And I can sing, I can rap, I got mad talent. Like, I haven't been through all this shit. He is right there. And I will give you your flowers and you are incredibly talented.

And I would have. I got Facebook posts. We made songs together. I got Facebook posts. Facebook post saying that people don't know how talented he is. Thank you. But there's Kanye, there's Jay-Z, there's Diddy, like you can, you could take what you've been through and you can make a billion dollars with it. You could really do that.

And you can also, you can help people with it. You could change the world. You know how much a billion dollars can do? I'm going to make a billion dollars. I had a billion dollars, I would have gave him my hundred million. When he's old, I will wipe his ass. I will carry this little ass around. You know, I'm that type of guy.

Like, I've had friends in fucking fool on bodycats. I'm the one to push the wheelchair. I'm a hateful, angry dude when it's time to go there. But other than that, like, I'm a lover. I got mad love. Like, when I love, I love deep. I fucking cry when I watch fucking movies and shit. Like that last of us, episode three, I cried like a motherfucker.

The whole fucking time I cried. You know, like, I really love deep. I love this motherfucker. And that's all I was trying to say is I would have really took care of him. Like, and he knows how much I love him. So that's why, and that's the main reason why I come here, because I just wanted him to know, like, why I don't understand why he did this to me. I don't understand because I really loved him and he knew that.

and there's nothing that he could gain from it. And he does this. He goes on these rampants against people. He'll find somebody and then he just latches on. Everyone else has been lucky. I've been the one for eight years, you know? But, I mean, before me, it was Zach. You know, like, it's always somebody.

It's always somebody. But why? You know, you got everything. You want me to look at you? You got everything. I surround myself with positive energy. I do. I do.

You hang out with Andy. You can't just say that. What? What? I'm hanging with Andy Buckworth. Where did that come from? Bro, you are on a no hate tour and you were the most hateful person in the world. You can believe that.

All I know is I've gotten to the point that I have in success in my career is by surrounding myself with people that I can learn from, people that I can trust, and people that got my back. You weren't one of those people, so I just backed out. Bro, he just cried his eyes out. You can't even admit that you did him wrong back in the boy. I'm not going to admit that I did him wrong. That's okay. I feel like you're lying yourself. You can think that, Adam, because I am true to myself and I know what I believe.

I'm not going to come on your podcast and be like, oh, I'm going to change it up for the last 10 years. And be like, oh, I don't feel that way because he's crying in front of me. No, that's okay. Everybody said that's okay. Like I said, I don't want you dead. I'm sorry that you lost your eye, but you fucking disrespecting me in so many different ways that there's no going back. And I wish you nothing but success. I do.

I really do. And that's after you made me had to change my number six times. I know you're very busy at him, but there's so many in the group text, there's been so many messages that I don't even think about this dude, and he's bringing me up. This guy's so hateful. He's so hateful.

He's so hateful that if you Google me, if you Google Joe Bills, J-O-E-B-I-L-Z, you Google it, or Wild Bill's. If you Google it, you are going to 90-fucking percent of shit is going to be profiles he's made for me. LinkedIn, like all sorts of Twitter's, Twitter, Instagram. I used to have the all-bibbills

100 miles in a day on a BMX bike. You're denying that you've made fake profiles? I have never made a fake profile for him. There was somebody that did it on Twitter that we all laughed about. That wasn't me. No. And then like I had like 18,000 followers on the all-big bills shit. He got that taken from me.

Anytime I get, I drop a video. He will tweet it and be like, yo, go. Bro, I haven't even. Outside of my group text, I don't even think about you, Bill. Like I said, I hope I hope you nothing but success. Think about me. Non-stop. Everywhere I go, people will be like, oh, catfish, that's all you ever talks about.

Okay. I think he wants to suck your dick. That's what they say all the time. I'm sure they do. Okay. Well, I'm telling you right now, I don't think about you outside of our group text. That's bullshit. Your Twitter and everything will tell otherwise.

I'm fucking sure of it. Okay. Because people wouldn't be saying it. How many viewers have stayed through this? I feel like I'm having my third or fourth stroke already. Well, I'm sure you're probably still doing blow. You're the only person that's, you're the only person that's, where everyone said you're the only person that hadn't changed in BMX in the past 10 years

did all these crazy attacks Bizzle that's what I said I didn't come out here to attack I didn't come out here to like I didn't come out I got a size 15 I put it right through your fucking face here we go I'm over here trying to be pleasant okay Bizzle do you understand okay see where this is going well where I see this going I knew this was going to be anticlimactic I knew it was going to be anticlimactic out I don't even know how he did this but he would find out long the ride where I was eating And then he would have mad people from all over fucking who knows where texting me. My number texting me talking about, oh, really fat ass, Dairy Queen.

Well, you don't know. What is happening? When you're in the South, that ain't much, especially on the highway, there's like Subway, McDonald's and Dairy Queen. That's it. Motherfucking, Dairy Queen got a salad. Can we play some of his music, please? Where I see this going is I see a comment section emerging that feels like you, You're really refusing to deal with the meat and potatoes of everything that he's saying.

And your arguments are just really like not that convincing. I hate to side with somebody so one-sidedly here. But it just feels like you intentionally befriended somebody that you knew was the kind of guy who was dealing with mental health issues. And then you basically turned your back on him for no good reason and then waged a hate campaign against him. I became friends with him because he had emotional issues. I was friends with him because he was a fun guy. I'm saying that like, you know, when you be friends somebody,

like Bizzle, you know you're on board for a lot. Shit, yeah. And I was. And I was on board. I was on board. We would hang out all the time. We made music together.

We did. Very tight. And then he fucked up. And then I was like, okay, I'm done with this. It's just, you know, like I said, this is going to be very anticlimactic.

And I wish you nothing but the best, Bizzle, I really do. Well, I thank you. I don't believe it, but I think you. That's okay. I mean, you don't have to believe it. I mean, like, hey, you even,

this is one of the funniest things I mean, you are good at hating. Like, I ain't going to lie. You're good at it. Like, if there was a real player. I'm good at pushing out negativity in my life. I'm good at pushing out negativity in my life. I know.

Everyone knows. So, yeah, like, he, when I'm coming into Greenville, he literally tweeted the police department. It's number. It was like, yo, like, business was rolling into town. Are you talking about? Everyone call 200 miles in one day on a BMX. I remember this type of thing. Get the fuck out of here.

I don't remember this specifically, but I remember you. the Moripovics that I've been waiting for right. He aired out my number. After you did it to me like 25. This is fucking Moripovich. Jesus Christ. I hope that some good shit happens to you in your life as a result of this. I do as well. Like I hope that

people find out about you as a person from this. He said he says a whole bunch of inspirational shit. Before I left, that's not what he said. He said, this is going to make you famous. That's the last words he said to me. I didn't know that it was because, because

he was going to be talking all shit, you know. And hopefully me being on here will make me famous. That's what I'm not over for follow. Shout out your Instagram. That's one thing I wanted to say to you is congratulations, because I know you for a hot minute. And, like, you have taken what you love and you have made a crazy lifestyle. Appreciate that. And you live.

I don't know your money and all that shit, but I know that everyone I know is like, oh, you know Adam Twitter too. like you know like you obviously doing your thing so congratulations on that thank you means a lot yeah so hopefully me being up here will help my ass out too shit but i would i would love to come back with some music for sure no that would be that would be dope for sure i mean i feel like this is the point in the podcast where catfish should be acknowledging that he had some role in all this and that he says i'm rolling all the what a role in all the what but i don't know that's another thing like It doesn't seem ready for that.

I wanted... A lot of people was questioning me coming up here. They thought that maybe you were going to be attacking me. And I was like, no, I don't think that's going to be the case because people sent me the Micah Cranes interview you did. And he said some shit. And then Micah didn't want to get in on it because he said he didn't know me. And then you said something...

I remember what you said, but it was something that was kind of like telling him, like, kind of wrong. And I was like, Dan, like, that's cool. Like, you didn't have to stick up for me. Well, I do remember at that. time telling catfish like this is ridiculous but i feel like now hearing your side of the story it just stands out to me a lot more how ridiculous it was and just what a bad reason that was to fucking dead a friendship and to publicly go after somebody it just doesn't really seem and i was young

you know it's like 23 yeah like and i really i i went in my shell for a long time because of him and i probably will have trust issues the rest of my life like i'm like i'm like i Not many people I don't have like a real family, not many people I've ever loved deeply, and he's been one of them. It wasn't that deep. Oh, my God. I think we got to leave it to the comment section.

Thank God. And they can weigh in on what they think transpired here. You guys, follow me on Instagram at K-I-M-K-A-R-D-A-S-H-I-A-N. My new song is dropping tomorrow. Catfish versus Thug, right? Catfish versus Thug, yeah. R-I-P- to the Thug. R-P- to the Thug.

Well, I also brought some I also brought some special I brought some special guests here too that need to be interviewed as a big controversy, internet controversy going on today. What are you talking about? One of my friends may have taken a YouTuber's child scooter

an eight-year-old scooter at a motorcrosser thing. How are we going there right now? And the YouTuber Yeah, I don't, I feel like this is, we should probably just stay on topic. That's going to be way more interesting than the last hour of everybody's lives. I don't know. I think you're really underestimating what just occurred. I mean, I I feel like some significant percentage of the audience is going to really relate to this motherfucker.

And they don't, a lot of them don't know the whole story, but at the end of the day, it's like people. You want to talk to Vegas? It was really all you to provide the defense, I think. You know, and that's the thing. People, you know, people fall out, friends fall out. And like I said, I wish him nothing but the best. He did some fucked up shit. Maybe I did some fucked up shit to him too.

And that's even better. We got a maybe. See, well, there you go. And then maybe. No one's never got that before. There you go. And then we can go our separate ways and we never cross paths again. Maybe.

Crazy. Well, I mean, there's still plenty more to go on. You mentioned the whole Vegas, me going to Vegas. That was just part of the list that we have where you left your riding across the country and you stop your ride to fly to Vegas for a couple days. Then you restarted the ride afterwards. But then had no money because you'd spent your money. You know how cheap it is to go from Dallas to Vegas?

It's $60 round trip. I'm not How did you know What I had or didn't have? Was you there? We saw it all Bizzle I'm sure. Are you God?

I'm not Bizzle, you are. All right. Did this go where you thought it was going to go? No. I didn't either. I didn't think so. A lot of people wanted me to fuck you up. That would be a bad idea.

I thought there was going to be more anger and less raw emotions. I literally came in here like I wanted to. I really. I respect the way you handled it. You were real and you were open and Calfish was pretty reserved. I mean, it's been a long time coming.

You've been talking so much shit on the Internet about what you're going to do to me, and I'm glad that we're able to come here. But he seems so ready to get past all the much worse shit that you put on him. And from a much larger platform, let's be fair. That's relative what you're saying. I needed to say this to him,

because, like, I have no way to talk to him. So I needed to say this, because it was weighed on me a lot. Well, there you go. Mission accomplished, Adam. Damn. we did it. Heavy. We broke the internet.

Honestly, this might, this might actually be able to help me move forward and get a little bit, you know, moving faster on my music and shit. Hopefully. I think for sure, we'll put a sound cloud link

or whatever you want in the description so they can check it out. Thank you. And I suppose we'll put a sound cloud link to your incredible catalog as well. You can play, we have one song together.

Yeah. And I'll give it to him, like, even though I don't know if it's an act or not, You know, him saying, you know, like, I'm credible and got taught. But I mean, it is undeniable. I have messages from when we hung out. I believe, I really believed you.

That's the other thing that I honestly believed you and why I got let down. Because I believed in you. You put work in the studio. Well, hopefully I'll fucked up to be in the future. Well, let's hope. But, yeah, like, I don't even know it. I don't even know. You guys are just kissing.

Good things will call it. I want to do scubiddy bop-a-doo pop-a-do-pado-pado-boo at the beginning of it, but I forgot. But it used to be the intro. One thing I wanted to say, I forgot. I had a couple of shout-outs. Okay. My boy, Chris Chow, he is a Navy man. He's been in the Navy for probably like five, six years.

I ain't seen him in a while. He's been stationed in Japan for four and a half years, and he told me that, like, you're his shit. Really? He has to download them all. and then they'll watch them on the boat he says he's got like 20 episodes downloaded and that's all they watch and they love it like it gets them by so like that's awesome he told me that the boys would go ape shit on the boat they'll be watching shout out to the the Japanese so well not the Japanese soldiers but fuck them our Navy men our Navy men in Japan there you go much better and then I got one fuck the Japanese well you know generally speaking I'm rooting for our army

overall. I don't know if they're at war or anything. And then another one. I recall some stuff that occurred. Is my boy in Mount Vernon, New York. He's Bedrock Records, Flintstone Productions. He used to work with Motown back in the day, old school legend. He's helped me, tons of youth. He's really good, like, for the community.

He loves people. And he told me a couple of weeks ago that he's going to be running for the 16th Congressional District for New York City, a 2024 Democratic ticket. Reggie Huggins Reggie Huggins And I'm not even a person That like votes I don't like that shit

Like I'm anti-government But I know Reggie And he he loves Like everybody He wants to help people He don't care about money Like he's done so much for me That I should have paid him

And if I tried to pay him He wouldn't have taken money So like I got to shout out Reggie Huggins Vote for his ass If you're in New York 24 Congressman

That might be the best shout out anybody's ever done here. I want to shout out of a congressional candidate. I believe him. He told me he said all he wants to do is make stuff change. He said he's tired of seeing people out here hurting. He said he's tired of seeing me hurting. Some people might say that you're the Reggie Hudgens

of this office right now. I wish, man. My heart ain't as pure as his. I got a lot of darkness. I was thinking about how awkward it would be if you had an enemy named Reggie and he died and then you had to be smoking Reggie. I missed that.

brickweed back in the day I miss it I'm not going to lie someone showed me a picture of some some brickweed and I was like yeah that's from what 2007 he's like yeah it's like yeah that's when it started all the old pictures of me with weed I'm like oh my god it looks terrible but thank God the cameras were shit too so you couldn't really I remember the first fire mids the first big

amount I bought at the time when I was like 18 I got two ounces of some brickweed went to the hood picked it up rolling out this damn cop pulls out starts following us new

we're like we're done we're driving slow following the rules I see a baseball field I said yo pull over pulled over hopped out walked on to the baseball

field there just so happened to be a baseball on the field and we just started tossing that bitch back and forth he parked next to our shit watched us for like an hour and then drove off

that's how you do it that's how you do it I ain't going to jail no serene no sirre shout out Bizzle shout out catfish let us know anything in the comments oh that's what I was trying to say

I got so much brain damage that carbon monoxide from the RV really did numbers on me did it really? Hell yeah did you know that Bizz went there and like took a photo holding the pipe that you used to pump the carbon dioxide through? No, but that sounds like this.

Monoxide. But that was after the suicides? He just happened to be riding his bike by and... No, I think we knew about it because of that. Yeah. Because it was in the paper. Yeah. They had my shit on the paper. Damn. It's pretty fucked up. And then I... And oh, that's a good story too.

Because when I woke up because they had to bring my aspect of life. When I woke up, they got me locked up to the bed and shit. And I already knew because I've been in and out the asylum, you know, in and out. So I knew I was like, they're going to keep my ass. So then, you know, after Dave made sure I'm stable, they take me in the ambulance, take me to the, where they're going to drop me off at the psychiatric facility. And I knew I was not, like, I was ready to fight both of those fucking EMTs.

Like, I'm sorry, y'all, but I was going to beat their ass if it came to it. Like, because they can keep you forever. It was not going to. So we're getting out the shit. and it locks up on them. So they both go behind me and trying to fuck with the wheel. I said,

pink, hopped out. I had a fucked up foot. I had had a broken foot for like two months. I was running, hopping over walls, all sorts of shit. Like I had like Superman strength from the adrenaline. I showed up in Guter's front yard. I got nothing but underwear on.

He's out there having fun in his front yard thinking I'm dead. And I show up like, I need some clothes. He hides me away I fly to Hawaii the very next day No one knew I was alive for like Two years only like five people knew I was alive We all knew right Maybe there was probably speculation

We knew you tried to get something We knew you Bizz knew Bizz Couped a tab on you Yeah Yeah I do love Viz He specifically said not to bring him into this So I don't know if we If we've fucked up but everyone loves Biz

Viz is a great guy They just don't want drama They thought when Bizz got here today they thought biz was Bizzle. Because I had warned the security like, hey, there's this guy Bizzle. We're going to want to keep them away from Catfish until we get on camera. And then Bizz shows up. And they're thinking that's Bizzle.

And so they're like keeping Bizz, like, isolated on the other side. I'm like, where are you at? He's like, they're keeping me on the side of the building. God. Well, that's good. That's a new memory we'll have forever. For sure. This is a memory I will have forever.

I think I will think about this when I'm 80. I hope so. I think you'll think about this when you're masturbating. I laugh so hard Because I really love porn hard I will never forget I don't remember when it was But I remember I just went up there

And your ass was on the front page And I died I was like no No way You watched it? I did And then she licked your ass And I was like I'm out

Well It's not for everybody I mean like It ain't never happened to me But me personally I ain't trying to watch it You know like I think you'd love it

I feel like you're the kind of guy who would like getting your ass eating. Maybe, but I ain't trying to watch nobody get their ass eight. That's fair. I'll keep that on much. I got a sensitive stomach. I remember at Noracup, you was in there, you were slam motherfuckers in the glass shower room. Bro, I always mentioned this because that was the first time I ever did any kind of sex shit on camera was my fucking Snapchat that night after Noricup was like me having the threesome with these two chicks off the Zanz. Oh, and you motherfucker.

I just remember that you. You are the one who you gave me, you gave me a clonopin. You gave me like two clonopin and told me that they were like Adderall. Not me. And you gave it to one of our friends who was supposed to ride in that contest. And he thought he was getting an Adderall and he got a clonopin. We're thinking we're going to be off Adderall for the day. And instead we're off clonopin's fucking asleep in the same.

I try to ride. Imagine trying to ride. Well, I swear you gave me two columns. No, it wasn't me. I promise. Honestly, that is the kind of drug that would make me completely. misremember what happened throughout the entire course of the day, so I will give you that, but that is how I remember it.

At that time, if anything, I would have gave you blow. And I definitely wouldn't have gave you blow unless you gave me money. Okay. Well, that's good enough. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing's for free. Yeah.

But, no, I just really love blow at the time. All right. But so, yo, Bizzle, thank you so much for coming in. This has been great. Everybody, feel free to tap in. We'll have his information in the description. Calfish as well. Follow his music.

Do you want to tell Cappish what you think? Can I fight you in the parking line? Can you fight me? I want to fight you in the park alone. If you can fight him, then you can fight me. That's a great point. Way more reason I fight that. Out of my almost five one time.

We both out of shape. We both got dad bods. Come on now. We're the same height. We don't just fight both of you. You and him fighting is a good way. You ain't that out of shape. I'm sorry.

No, it's cool. I was just roll with it. I'm still working on. Graduating out of Dad Bob. All right. Thanks to everybody for watching this. If you still watching, I'm sorry. Thank you to Bizzle.

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