No Jumper - Ceddy Nash on Exposing Gunna, Feds Snatching Him at FBG Duck Trial & More

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

Ceddy Nash talks about the Duck trial situation, Gunna, beef with Hurricane Chris, his affiliation, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! htt...ps://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Let me tell you how my squad did me dirty. I got asked. Remo Flocko, they're like, yo, you down to do Citi Nash interview with us. We're going to have a whole big panel. Maybe we can get brick in there
Starting point is 00:00:14 because, you know, he can grill him about some cribs or whatever. Comes time to shoot. I'm solo. They left you in the dorm room. To be fair, they did schedule this Monday, late afternoon. So they're like a, about to be filming there, uh, here we go again, aka the Monday show. Ah.
Starting point is 00:00:35 But here I am. Solo. SETI. Without my squad, nobody to back me up. Man, you got people in here. Y'all know y'all love it. There's a long time coming. Solo, SETI Nash.
Starting point is 00:00:45 But they're not on camera. Oh, man. SETI Nash. How are you? How are you? I'm good, man. You got some big-ass hands. You know, hey, you know the crazy rumor about me?
Starting point is 00:00:58 You're a j-off and just be, like, like, God, it's like getting off by a grizzly bear. No, no, no, you don't think about that? I did get caught a grizzly bear once upon a time, though. Oh, yeah, you're very grizzly bearish. Thank you. In terms of, like, human beings that could give a grizzly bear a run for his money,
Starting point is 00:01:15 I feel like you might be up there. Well, you get to verify the height, because they used to say, Setti Nash is five foot five and like 400 pounds. Well, what are you, like, six, five? No, six three. Six three. Six three, too. You feel bigger than me, because you got them big hands.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Hands. And big hands, Sady Nash. Okay, so what are we talking about today? They did. They surprised me with a list. This is a birthday list. I mean, you know, the people pretty much want to know the Sacktail Lake stuff and everything like that. Even in no jumper stuff, you know, how I got it started as far as here and everything.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I can say this 100 that y'all was the first big platform to really give me a shot. Y'all ain't do no lame stuff like a dizzler or off the porch. you know, them. What Fizzler and off the porch do to do to you? I've been looking off of Dizzler for years. Like, we had a big old, because I used to do security in Northern Cal so from the Bay to like sack and stuff like that. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:02:10 All your favorite artists and stuff like that, Wutang, Lupe. Hell, you go watch it. You were a security guy. Yeah. Nobody ever asked me to do security, really. So that's a good indication that you're. They could, though. You got the height, man.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I think the height really intimidate people, you know what I mean? I could be the security that just, like, got hell of guns secretly. but I'm not going to be like the one like musseling somebody around I don't think I'm telling you if you just walk around silently you know you got the minds you know you walk around silently but you guys can't do that man with the flashlight not but people are going to be like you do poxie well I mean if I wasn't me yeah yeah I'm saying if you weren't you then not but you know if you did security I ain't going to hold you I think they'll want to take pictures with you I don't think it's that's a problem I need
Starting point is 00:02:54 security I can't be the security nah no no no you don't think I need security No, you definitely need security. You piss people off. In certain areas of life. Well, you know, everybody's sensitive these days. Okay, so how do you turn doing security to dealing with Fizzler? So, you know, a lot of things are facades in people's city. So what ends up happening is I'll get them into, this is a big boat show in Alameda outside of Oakland.
Starting point is 00:03:21 And so we got like lineups. Like Matt, we had all the Wu-Tang claimers, like literally all of them. and they wasn't getting in. You see what I'm saying? They're like, hey, we, we disler and stuff like that. I walk them in. I'm like, hey, this is when I was doing my rapping. I'm like, hey, if I let y'all live, give me an interview.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Dude, emails like Amoeba or something like that, anything. I get them all in. Boom. Then I hit them up. They act like they don't know me. Scoot down years later. Sadi Nash, one of the most popping faces of California as far as YouTube go, in my humble opinion.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know, I'm doing close to two of the ones. 1.5 million views a month. So what ends up happening is, they keep coming out with these lists. I keep getting snubbed. I'm like, what's going on? But who was making the list? I don't know. The top media platforms, those types of lists, about like NorCal and stuff?
Starting point is 00:04:12 Nah, just Cali as a whole. Okay. Because I'll get placed in the Southern Council, so I'm not really tripping. I've seen those without me on it, too, and I'm just like, okay, sure. But I think, I don't know. You up here, so I don't think they think, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You don't believe it?
Starting point is 00:04:28 I mean, I just feel like if I'm doing media and I live here, right, put me on the list. But hey, if you don't want to put me on list, that's cool. You got to start demanding it. I never cared about my rank. Like, I never, like, have been concerned with, like, awards or anything like that. No, I'm saying demanding like, yo, your rank, your list, like, hey, where do I rate? Y'all keep putting out all these days and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But you're up there with the academics. You're bigger than where you at. But I'll have those conversations when like B, T, snubs me and Ack and Vlad and shit. But like for me to have that conversation with like a little platform doing it, it's just like, okay, I don't care, whatever. What was it going to happen? You're going to do that award show? You know, here's my read on that. Me, Ack, Vlad, we're all very good at working hard on our own behalf.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Right. The idea that we were all just going to work together to create this really complicated thing. I don't know, man. It seems like kind of a stretch. Like even us just getting on the phone was difficult. And then like throw Sean Cotton in the mix. He was even more MIA than the rest of them. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I just don't like, because like thinking about what if we all like, like what are we going to do? We're going to like hire employees, like shared employees to help put on this show. Like it's very hard to imagine everything being divided up equally for us to all come together. Like I don't know. It's like probably a big part of why I've never started like a group business because I just don't. I don't think that way. I'm like motivated by doing this and like keeping this together is its own headache.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Never mind. Everybody working together on a awards show. I don't know. It's just hard for me to wrap my head around it. How about it like this, right? I think y'all got like somebody that you'll probably rock with as far as doing it, somebody hosting it. You pick somebody. So no jumper picks this person.
Starting point is 00:06:20 This day nominee. Vlad picks this person. nominee, say cheesepickest person, nominee, academic picks his person, nominee, and then let the fans vote. You're talking about the categories. Yeah. Okay, but I'm saying like even,
Starting point is 00:06:32 I'm talking about the production of putting on an event, a big event that's going to cost loads of money, never mind like putting together the content, getting us all together to make content. I mean, just everything about it is like so much work on top of the fact that we are all like damn near maxed out work-wise.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I don't know. This doesn't really seem possible. Two hours. two hours on the weekend, get a nice little spot. You don't have to have everybody. Like, this is an online thing, basically. Two hours. This is going to take so goddamn long, like a real production of, like, us discussing all these different topics.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Nah, just clip it. Just clip how y'all feel it. And then just come with it like that. This is the reason why this is the layout. This is what they provide. I think you are really underestimating how much work it would be, as probably we all were in the beginning. But, like, once it actually came down to how hard it was to even get us all on the phone, it was just like, oh yeah, this ain't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So you don't think you can have any mediary that could just boom, boom, boom. I mean, y'all have assistance for a reason, right? Yeah, but like think about how busy they are. Man, they could imagine them making like even more time to put on this thing and then like, I don't know. It's just very unrealistic. I don't really have a lot of faith that it's going to happen. But in theory, it could.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Okay, so you're working with this. Yeah, I wasn't working with this. I never mind. I do quid pro quo stuff. Okay, but you were doing all these interviews and then what happened? No, I wasn't doing no interviews. Oh, well. I was supposed to do an interview.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So I was coming back doing the music stuff and everything, and they ain't give you that. So I just, you know, if I do something for you and you tell me, all right, we got disagreement, they're cool. But it's good. They followed off in their views anyway. It's them off the porch, lame asses charging people 1,500, 600 for an interview. That's only going to do like 400 views. So that's what they do? Man, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Oh, you ain't seen. I mean, they're minuscule, but that's what they do. They charge people to come through and they're not getting that many views. Like you could go to it right now and you can see they're dropping interviews for people doing $1,500. Like that's not small change for anybody. Yeah, that's like the whole business model. You like fight real hard to get the people that are actually going to make you some money.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Right. And then you charge everybody else. You know what I'd be paying attention to is all those like freestyle channels like on the radar. I'd be like searching the names of the people who are freestyling on that shit. Which by the way, it's almost never a free. It's like people just go in and just perform their best song, but most people haven't heard that song. So it's like it comes off like a real thing. Like this is a song.
Starting point is 00:09:01 But the thing that's crazy about it is like a lot of times I search these people named. They got like 50 views. So it's like, oh, I mean, I don't want to accuse them of taking money if they aren't. They are. I'll say it. But they definitely, that's basically got to be the deal, which is just interesting. Like is that the long term vision of a lot of these platforms? because to me, taking money for content that you put on your YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:09:25 I don't know, it really kind of takes away from the brand. It's kind of hard for me to. And that's why they're suffering. That's why you get it off the porch and a Thizzler suffering because... On the radar, it seems like they're doing really good for the record. But yeah, I mean, definitely making a serious business off YouTube. Money is pretty tough these days. Yeah, but, I mean, once you have a business model and you stick to it,
Starting point is 00:09:42 you don't deviate too much off of it. People come from what they come from. You know, I liken it to... I'm not going to go to a car shop like Mercedes-Benzuela. and purchase steaks. You don't want to, it's branding, you know. I buy a Mercedes Benz for the car. I don't buy it for food.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I don't buy it for shoes or stuff like that. So it's stick to what you're supposed to be doing. You know, it's just those little things. But that's my little gripe about it because I don't mind getting slighted, but I want to know your criteria. As I start searching up people's criteria, they have people, and this is no shade to anybody, but I'm just wondering, you know, criteria-wise, what are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:10:17 I've seen cats with 2,000 subscribers and doing like 97 views and stuff like that and hey they got on there maybe they paid for the list if that's the case they're cool because you do want to have your list a little bit chaotic
Starting point is 00:10:30 if it's not then nobody going to pay attention you know we pay attention to the snubs oh he got snubbed he's not as good as this person but we're talking about it and that's what you ultimately want you want a little bit of chaos
Starting point is 00:10:41 I feel it so okay where's the story go from there I just been dissing that's all I didn't even diss them. I just was pissed off and then people were attacking me forward and I'm just like, man. But, you know, it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'll leave it beef for what it is, but I'm cool with it, you know. I ain't going to be the people's most loved and nothing like that as far as those platforms go, but it's like, I'll just collaborate with no jumper. Oh, my, not at all. What about, okay, so like, how did you kind of get
Starting point is 00:11:09 into what you're doing now in terms of doing so much like commentary shit and like uncovering? Are you with the exposers, work one harder's group? I don't know anything about that With the exposers Okay
Starting point is 00:11:20 What is that even mean? I don't know what that mean They expose people who snitched Oh I ain't gonna hold you I probably helped create that way With 1090 Jake I think we kind of
Starting point is 00:11:30 Mess YouTube up a little bit with that Because you know I put out the YSO Woody video I put out a lot of Footage with people Getting in trouble and stuff Doing stuff today Shouldn't do
Starting point is 00:11:43 And stuff like that So they'll Say things that you supposed to say but for me I'm just putting it out there but I'll give commentary to it some people they'll put it out there and won't give commentary to it so that people can judge it and that ultimately might be the best way to go but like I put out the gun of video you know I put out a bunch of stuff as far as a lot of things going the young thug clip and stuff like that that went mega viral and they kept on saying seddy nass exclusive on there and man I got I got I got ripped on god
Starting point is 00:12:16 I mean, Twitter. I've definitely had that experience of listening to some audio like that, and it just says your name 10,000 times over it. And I'm just like, holy fuck, this is insane. Like, I cannot believe this is the world we live in that you got to, like, really just put this every two seconds over the audio. How'd you get that? I can't tell you that, Adam.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Come on, man. You got to sign an NDA? You willing to sign an NDA? I don't think I care of that much, but I don't know what else it's going to say in this NDA. No, no, no. I can't never, you know, expose that type of shit because, like, I got to ask the other day
Starting point is 00:12:50 if I was going to go to Young Thunk, because I stayed in Atlanta as well if I was going to go to the Yassette. I said, I'm going to jail as soon as I hit there. Why? Because they're going to want to know how I got my hands on certain things,
Starting point is 00:13:01 and I'm not a finisage shit, so you're not going to get it out of me. So they're just going, well, we'll just hold you and see what we can do. I thought you were saying that you're going to go to jail because you're going to have to fight his, like, family members or something. They're, like, get into a bra with his homies there.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Nah, nah, for the most part, I think they're cool because, you know, I had to switch from a certain image on YouTube. You remember, I used to have a blue rag on my face and stuff like that and had to switch to the hood lawyer because I had a record that's like, you know, we can't let you interview certain people, but we can't do it because you're showing this image right here. So the early videos used to be, you know, whatever, toss about whatever. And then I had to switch it up. And then I went to the hood lawyer because I understood you got to switch this up. up because it's only going to have a certain lane. And then I started seeing other people with the exact same title. And so they were stripping the algorithm from me.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And I'm like, yeah, let's just switch it up and just put the rapper's name and whatever I got to say about it. But I just believe I'm going to jail because I got snatched by the fence and I went to the O Block trial. And I don't know who told on me. I don't know if it was FBI butters or if it was trenches, whatever he calls itself now. Right. So what was that experience like? Tell me about that. With the fed stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:16 When you went to the O'Block trial. You don't normally be in Chicago, right? I'm always in Chicago. Oh, okay. I'm always in Chicago. That's the funniest part about it. Like, every city I talk about, I be in those cities. I'll do the live stream all that because I don't.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Why do you go there? I love it out there. Chicago. It's a beautiful city. But you travel just to what? Just hang out and get a hotel room and just chill? Yeah, I love Chicago. I thought about moving out there.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Have you been to Chicago a bunch of times? but I don't go to like random. I travel very rarely. It's like so much harder to get work done when you go. True. Different places. You just did Puerto Rico, right? Puerto Rico, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Puerto Rico. Yeah. And I didn't get shit done. I mean, I actually wrote a lot of my No Jumber documentary. Got kind of like finished out out there. But when I travel, it's such a pain in the ass. And it's expensive to like get more like, it's very few places I can go that I can be more productive than I am at home.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Right, right, right. Which is always a thing for me. But to the, getting snatched by the feds. happening was... And what was your plan for being at the trial? You just want to see what I was going on? Nosey. Cloud chasing, I can say that. You know, I'm being nosy as hell.
Starting point is 00:15:23 They're like, oh, Trich's News just took the stand and then FBI Butters just took the stand. And when he got up here, he lied, bro. I swear to you, he lied. I watched him get on the stand and say King Vaughn killed K. He said, he said he stood over her. When the transcripts come out,
Starting point is 00:15:40 majority, because I couldn't watch it no more, bro. Like, you lied on Mickey truth. Your mama talked to Mickey Truth. Two days. Well, a day before and she would say, you know, y'all got paid for this and paid for that. And then she'd get escorted because ultimately what happens is this.
Starting point is 00:15:56 I show up to the courthouse. I'm going to go up in there. Because I know certain people. I'm not going to say who names and stuff like that. But I know people that's in this case. So I go up and I see FBI Butters his manager. I didn't know who he was. He looked like some super Muslim dude with dreads.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And then I see Mickey Truth. And so while the court is going on, they're sidebarring. I'm not knowing this. My goofy ass walk up, because when you go in, you got to go through the scanner and stuff like that and everything, the metal detector. And then you go up. When you go on the courtroom, you got to go through another metal detector and take your phone and your key, a lockbox, stuff like that. I do that. I walk up.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And as soon as I hit that day, officer kept through, he like, you said he nash. I just start. Like, you said he nash? You're setting nash, man. And that's not your government, or is it? Nah, that's not my government, man. So that's even weirder. Like, you're, like, coming up to me,
Starting point is 00:16:57 like, calling me my YouTube name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the most part. But if they came up to you with your real name, it would be like, damn, they got facial recognition technology. Yeah, it would have been wild. If they would have came at me like that, I'd have been like, oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Let me call my lawyer real quick. So, okay, what? They drag you in a fucking private room and interrogated? So what ends up happening is they say we need to talk to you about a video that you made. So I'm already knowing, all right, checkmark right there.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Because one, they're not saying you're under arrest, so that's checkmark right there. Two, they're telling me what they need to talk to me about because I made a video being funny, which I ain't going to do that anymore, but I made a video said, y'all need a ride out on Tritch's news and treat them like KTSJ.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Because I felt betrayed. Like, that dude, him and FBI brothers got on Instagram, and told me, oh, I didn't snitch. I didn't say this. I didn't say that. Butters told me flat out, I was in jail during this time. I'm like, so you did it? Nah, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:17:56 But, man, they did that. They went up there and then the feds just himmed me up and was like, you need to delete that video. We're going to charge you with obstruction of justice. That's 20 years. But, like, why would you believe them? Because what, like, what you didn't inform me that you were thinking of charge of me with this very serious crime
Starting point is 00:18:13 until you just happened to see me at the courtroom? like that's a weird. It was weird all the way around. But I'm like, it's satire. And I say, I came out with another video that literally says I'm just playing. And then I try to sweeten it up like, well, you know, if you're talking about the streets, unfortunately, he's talking about cleaning up the street. So that would be the only way that he can do it is to get rid of these individuals
Starting point is 00:18:35 so that you can give a new spark to the young life. You know what I'm saying? But I still felt the way I felt. Now, I'm not telling nobody ever crash out. And then the fans are going to say, Yeah, you have influence over in Chicago. I ain't got no goddamn influence and no Chicago, brother.
Starting point is 00:18:51 This is a listen to me like that. It's the non-gamebangers, non-affiliates that's watching this because they want to know exactly what I know because I be in all these cities I be talking about. But what ends up happening is they say that and then I say satire. But then they said this and this will make me delete it.
Starting point is 00:19:08 They said, we're going to go to YouTube and tell on you basic. I'm like, oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I make it a decent amount. all the money on you too. What you need, you, boom, deleted it. But the odd part about it is
Starting point is 00:19:21 they weren't supposed to do that. So on the appeal, they like, oh yeah, we need you to do. I'm not going nowhere near that shit like, hell now. They like, oh, we need you to write this right. I ain't right. I wish the fuck I would hell not.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So, you know, that's essentially what happened. But I seen butters understand and I'm telling you. So even after that you were able to go into the courtroom and watch? Nah, and they put me in the media room. Oh. And then what ends up happening is I meet somebody from Chicago Sun Times and then these motherfuckers just write the craziest shit. So if you read the Sun Times article, it says that a purported Crip from L.A.
Starting point is 00:20:00 goes in and tells everybody to crash out. And I'm like, bro, I would be in jail right now. Because you said that in the video. I said that in the video. But they said I came in the courtroom and said that. I'm like, bro, I would be in jail. Like, come on. They could just say whatever the fuck they want.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah. The news get to write up whatever they want And because it has to meet a certain criteria You know, it has to be four levels of defamation People believe just because you say something about somebody That you can just sue them Not as elements and levels to this shit Like
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's why every time somebody tells me They're going to sue me for defamation I'm just like, okay Yeah, where's your 100,000 Because it's an automatic 100,000 You're going to pay to the lawyers Right Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:20:45 We ain't got that. And then these dumb asses like, you were supposed to go to jail. You weren't supposed to say anything. Bitch, I called myself a hood lawyer. So why the fuck would I sit up there and try to be judge in front of a judge and goddamn pay a bond for some shit
Starting point is 00:20:57 that was clearly a fucking joke and used to get views? You get what I'm saying? So I'm not doing that whole ass. I had everybody on any of you're supposed to go to jail. For what? Bitch, what the fuck I look like? Who the fuck?
Starting point is 00:21:08 First off, it's hard to get a fucking bond in the feds anyways. Now I'm going to take myself away from this for some shit where I'm obviously cloud chasing? Nah, I'm cool on that one. Yeah, because that's kind of like the realization I have with someone like you is that if you
Starting point is 00:21:24 want to be like a hip-hop influencer commentator, etc. these days and really build it from the ground up, there's only so many spots, right? So you have like different, you have somebody like me doing interviews, you have Vlad doing interviews, you have somebody like academics who does news. It kind of becomes like, okay,
Starting point is 00:21:40 what spots are available? You got a trap Lord Ross. He's doing these super deep dive investigative videos, but one thing that he won't do is he won't actually get up in the middle of the business. He only talks about the business. He's not talking to anybody in the hood or whatever. I've said that to him before. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 if you really want to do the craziest fucking video ever, you need to like actually find people that are willing to tell you everything behind the scenes and work on like confirming them through having multiple accounts, etc. He doesn't want to do all that. It feels like that's kind of like your lane. It's like, no, I'm going to be messy as fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I'm going to get right in the middle of this shit. I'm going to be in the court. I'm going to obstruct justice. I'm going to I'm going to talk to the cops on TV or the news or whatever. You got to talk about that, nice transition.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We got to talk about that. So did you see the actual paperwork on that? I saw you being a leaky faucet on the news. All right. So getting your gunner on. I thought maybe for a second you were ready to join YSEL. I don't know. You know slatty.
Starting point is 00:22:41 But you know what I mean? I don't judge. on these sort of things. I just said, let's find out. Let's get it today. First of all, and I'm going to do something that people are going to like, at least Wack can't be trill.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Okay. I see what you did with Wack and Shrike. I'm like, damn, man, what the fuck? I'm doing it. But I get it. What do you mean? What did I say to Wack? So you said,
Starting point is 00:23:00 you said it was hitting on the news? I'm like, bro, what the fuck? What are you talking about? I got to lay it out the way that the people saw in order to analyze it. Man, you better go out of no jump and put Adam in a goddamn headline. I'm like, at first I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:13 God damn, but I'm like, nice content. I'm content, so fucking it is what it is. But the LaBald, do I don't know what is, what is his name? The LaBald do. Was it somebody with Wack? Yeah, with Wack. He was just dog. Oh, was it Beast?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beast. He was over there dissing the shit out of me. First of all, you can Google this. Orange 15th in Sacramento is a bunch of bars. I was there to me bitches. The news reporter is my homie. I can show you on Facebook, a couple of news reporter homies.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So let's get to it. What was said? versus what actually was in the goddamn report. When he say, no, what do you say, say, you heard the conversation I say, yeah, it's real static. And somebody said not even a part of this, S. Well, in the actual paperwork, there was never an argument. Zero. He didn't have no friends outside.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It was him and buddy. That's it. So there were no friends. There was no argument. Zero. So on top of that, who said boom, boom, boom first? Was it me or was it the news guy? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I'm not sure. So if you rewiring a news clip, he say, then boom, boom, boom. I agree. I'm like, then boom, boom, boom. Because we run in the play. You had nobody. If you look at the lights where we're at, we're in the far off distance. You don't even see the blues.
Starting point is 00:24:27 If you see the blues, then you're right there. Yeah, I think about it. Why the hell would I be next to a dead body smiling and laughing? That's a little eye. Maybe you're just that savage. Paceblee. Paceblee. Paceblee.
Starting point is 00:24:40 but okay so you're saying that you weren't anywhere near this but that was a made up story oh okay there's a whole made up story so when they do that it's like damn all right cool I never say I see somebody get whacked I never say I see a gun never say I see somebody get killed never say any of that shit it's an argument his homie say in a part of this says and then boom boom whoa which I should have put that on the shirt I really should have ran with it and got a lot more but that was a blessing though and all candor
Starting point is 00:25:07 military chopper with the scope go boom boom boom it's a lyric sorry um i don't know but no it was a blessing because at the end of the day I got to see what straddling the fence you see some lame-ass dudes well I'd never seen just fight out yeah
Starting point is 00:25:23 city nash he can't come back to California when the fuck this happened right yeah that's literally it was stories and bullshit and stuff like that you know all of this shit is publicly available when you do in the
Starting point is 00:25:37 appeal, all the information come out. So what really happened, the true story what happened is, this shit was over a fucking girl. All of this shit was over a bitch. The dude was at the bar, I guess, and then seen the dude and up the cannon on him. Now
Starting point is 00:25:53 he up the cannon on him, he shoot him. Then he'd get in his car. While this is happening, the police see the shit and they follow him. Now, when they follow him, this food bowed as hell, he tossed a gun into his neighbor's yard, then Turn around. Go get something to eat. Come back. Police arrest him. He claims self-defense.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But the crazier part is, is he almost had it beat on a self-defense. He said, oh, he had a gun on him. And then the reporter says that the friends took something up out of his pocket. That should have been enough. But the biggest thing I hated about it was they try to implement me on a fucking murder. But this is like the fourth fucking murder they try to put on me on YouTube. This shit, like, this is some essay shit. This ain't got shit. do it. You understand. It was Mexicans. Yeah. It was shooting each other.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. This is Mexicans. What the fuck? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm there R15 to me bitches. It's not like you would have any real knowledge about what was going on in this situation. I wouldn't have been there. Right. I wouldn't have. I would have got the fuck up out of there because now you're not only a target. You got to go do something about that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I don't know these motherfuckers. I ain't seen shit. So, I mean, it was cool in a sense like, bro, here the paperwork. Shut the fuck up. Did you, like, lose any relationships with people who? didn't, who, you know, didn't really want to fuck with you after that or that you didn't fuck with them because they were talking shit about it or anything like that? You know how when tragedy, I mean, when controversy strikes, people show their stripes type of thing, that's what ended up happening.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I always, like, I don't really fuck with people too many times. I don't really fuck with nobody like that. Like, I stay in my own lane. My circle smaller than a dot. So certain individuals, I would see certain little remarks that they would make. And then I would see, like, likes. Like when I'm seeing somebody do like certain lame-ass shit, a video or something like that when they're in disagreement, I look at exactly what the person likes and what they happen to comment on and all this weak-ass shit. And then what that ends up doing for me is, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You was trying to ride a train. And then y'all get mad that I don't repost your shit. Y'all get mad that I don't speak on certain things that y'all going on. I don't try to big up your topic and put it in the algorithms. So what that ends up doing is that ends up helping me to fuck out. Because it's like, bitch, I knew who you was. I just needed that opportunity to spot you. And now I got them.
Starting point is 00:28:11 So, you know, but like I said, the part that I hate the most about that shit was tying me to another fucking body. You know, they did that shit with FBG Cash. A fake SETI Nash, Instagram, jump on his last live stream is SETI underscore Nash. I have nothing to do with this goddamn Instagram. My shit is SETI Nash, one word. And what were they doing? They was trolling them and some more shit to say some wild recklessly shit.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And then Cash, like, nigga, who the fuck you're talking to? And all this shit and everything like that. And then, boom. Three hours later, he dead. And they're like, oh, Sadie Nash did it. Saddy Nash did it.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And I'm like, bro, what the fuck are you? What? Like, bro, this, nah, bro, but they do that lay mad shit. They, they've done it with a couple of people. I don't really want to bring their names like because it's still open investigations and shit. But that's the more prominent one that I could point out,
Starting point is 00:29:02 even though it's not the latest one. I was actually like the oldest one. But it is what it is on that part. It's just I've been surrounded by death. You know what I'm saying? Like, unfortunately surrounded by death. Like growing up, taking it from Sack all the way here, like, bread. Yeah, when do you come here and when do you become a Crip?
Starting point is 00:29:22 I don't know what the Crip is. What is that? Community Revolution in Progress. I'm not a Crip. I don't know what that is. Well, okay. When do you become a gang. member? No, a game member. I'm just a, I got a brotherhood I like, and they, they like me.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You know what I'm saying? I like that, but that's 2009. I was 19. So you don't do all that anymore? Anymore. I just came out here kicking it, man, and just found a certain section of a certain place, and I liked them. You know what I'm saying? They like me, and then they was just like, come kick it. And I've just been kicking it ever since, you know, and fortunately for me, it didn't. mess up anything. So, you know, them my bros, them my guys, I'll be out there hanging out. So they never sent you on a mission or anything?
Starting point is 00:30:12 What's the mission? Got to go do something for them, pick up a cake or something? Um, do we pick up cakes? I don't know, bro. Really, any groceries? Yeah, I eat healthy, man.
Starting point is 00:30:25 So I eat real healthy these days. I'm 280, man. I got a kind of slack on that. But, yeah, I mean, it was 2009 came out kicking it and stuff like that in. You know, but like I said, I was 19. And on top of that, my whole family from L.A. That's the funniest part about it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Like, my family from Watts and then from other parts of South Central. So that was the funniest part about all this BS. And they think I'm older than what I'm. I just turned 34. Like, what are we talking about? So, you know. You have that, I mean, dreadlocks, I guess, can make you look a little older, right? And a beard, too.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah, and a beard. Definitely a beard. Once it started coming in, and I started getting like the, the brides who had a fetish for that, it was, it was cool. Really? So you felt that? Like, oh, like, they really like the beard.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Beer equipped with the dreads. I don't know why that's the thing, but it just became a thing. Like, when I, because I used to always rock braids and sometimes I would, because it's called two strand twisties. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And I used to, when I was doing like my pickup artist phase and shit like that. Oh, you had a pickup artist's phase. Yeah, yeah. I should have known some of those up when you were talking about. I went to the bar to me, bitches.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. Hey, bro. That night, though, me and my homie Mike, shout out Mike, Big Mike, man, we, yeah, like some hood-ass white bitches. And we were at R and 15 bar. This was funny because that's where all this shit was at R&15 is a whole bar. Like, that's not a hood, by the way, beast, you stupid dude. Like, you probably Google the spaces that you look at that. What up, Flocko?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Hey, hey, listen, man. Hey, listen, man. Hey, listen, man. I think this can't stay up him, man. Me, no. Hey, what Cripp said is he from? What Cripset is he from? I'm not from no Cripset, man.
Starting point is 00:32:07 He's from 60s, right? Yeah, he wouldn't tell me. I didn't want to put it on him, but I figured you could do it. Okay, but who is your pickup artist guru? Matador. I don't know. So you get mystery, and then you get...
Starting point is 00:32:23 I watched this TV show. Yeah. And then you get style. I didn't even know about style. But, like, it was... Bray, I swear it was cold. I had a thing called the Nash Effect, bro. What's that?
Starting point is 00:32:34 The national effect is essentially the game plan that you run. So you get these certain levels of comfortability that you, because a woman ain't going to fuck you, she ain't comfortable. Right. And a lot of guys don't know this stuff. And you have to get out there in the field, you got to crash and burn. So since I'm a taller guy and stuff like that, and I was in far more better shape than I was then.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I mean, I was better shaped then than I am now because I ain't in shape for shit right now. But what happened is you go out there and you fail. So a lot of guys, guys pay attention to this. you have to approach women sideways, right? So as I'm right here, like how you're doing right now, that's a little more comfortable. This is good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But you talk- I noticed myself doing that too much, and I'm like, no, I have to, like, face them more. But you probably realize, like, when I'm like, how I'm right here, and then I do like this, you see how much the difference is the body? It's a lot more defiant.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Exactly. It's like, I ain't really fucking me to do it the whole way. Exactly. Because when you meet a brats, you wonder, what the fuck do you want? What are you doing? Right. And then learn that shit.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I learned hard approach it sideways, kind of body rock, like, you know, do stuff like that. And then you run your game, for lack of better words. You bring up something, wow, like, oh, did you see the fucking fight outside? Hey, do you believe in spells? You're like, hey, but what you do is you say real quick. You open it with, hey, real quick. And then boom, you say what you're going to say. You just really wanted to get them to open their mouth.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I remember so many of these things from reading about pickup artist shit back in the day. Like, do you see that crazy fight outside? Oh, no, yeah. Like, I don't. They were fighting over a guy named Mortimer or some stuff. Yeah, do you do magic tricks? Yeah. Oh, see?
Starting point is 00:34:03 No, no, no. I came in, this is the crazy part. I came in there peekout. I was only black dude in there with a cowboy and the clubs and shit, so I was cool. You were the cowboy hat guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 That's when I really realized the pickup bar of the shit was burnt out was when I realized that it was like suggesting you needed like a sequent and cowboy hat to make yourself stand out so you could peacock appropriately. But it's still a thing, though. That's the funnier part about it.
Starting point is 00:34:23 A lot of peacock and now is done with the ostentatious gear that cats wear. Right. So you're wearing something more expensive now, we're actually paying attention to brands more now than ever. So what happened is now, you got your diamonds and all that shit and everything
Starting point is 00:34:39 like that. More people can now afford change because everybody's scamming these days. Now you're wearing these shoes that are supposed to be vintage, but they're really not vintage. They're just out there and this is the new wave. Like remember when the red twelves came out, the suede red twelves? Not really bad. Everybody had them.
Starting point is 00:34:54 These red Jordans came out and every fucking body had them. You've seen like six pairs and the resells and stuff like that. So that's essentially what peacock and has turned into. Pickup still works today because I did it on this data show. But I created this thing called the fighter test, right? So what I do is I have a woman, I say, put your hand like this, right? And the fucking answer doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And anybody watches this. You can literally run this shit on a female. You can do it, right? Hey, let me do this test on you real quick. Once you do is you just speak truisms. That's all you're doing. So I do them, put their hand like this. Matter of fact, I'll do it on you.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Put your hand like this, right? all right now what i'm gonna have you do is you're gonna open your hand but don't do it yet right you're going to either open it like this or opening like this which one do you choose okay so typically what that means and then i'll grab her hand and i'll be like typically what that means because that's kinesthetics that's keno right there keynote escalation you remember that right okay so i'll go you know a reason to touch her hand yeah exactly you know nice shit so what ain't girls you fucked what's the number i can't give you that number adam man i'm I'm still trying to put on, you know, I'm trying to, I'm a nice, you know, nice guy with a low number.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You're on Tinder? Nah. You're not in any of those apps? I should be, right. All-IRL game. What the hell is that? In real life. Oh, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I like that. Yeah, I had to. I mean, shit, I got a good amount of following on Instagram, so I don't really have to do too much. I wish I was, like, at zero in life. Really? Because I would get it through women, I think, is how I would rebuild my stuff. myself. You just got to find a girl who got the right willingness to accommodate you. No further. You could get foreign life. If I was at zero right now, I just need a bitch
Starting point is 00:36:43 you going to believe in me. You're going to be staying in your crib. We're going to be making content together. Oh, all I need is a girl. And I'm good. I miss the old days when I had a variety. Now, I'm... Now, can you do it? Do you need to be younger? No, I've won. Huh? Would it be, You had to be younger. I just didn't understand that as a young dude who don't have anything going on, you just need a girl. True indeed. And then you could figure your whole life out from there.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And then maybe at some point you could level up to a different girl. So then I had to ask it to you this point. What is this chapter in Adam 22's life called? Running a legal business and not. Fucking it off. Trying to have a healthy relationship with a woman. Nice. Being a family man.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You got a daughter to it. An old family man, I know. That's dope, right? I started this eight years ago, really, like almost 10 years ago. Because I started the BMX shit, like a year and a half before I started this. The podcast thing, I'm just been talking to people for 10 years. But you make, you know, get changed and stuff like that. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So to finish it, the... Oh, right. We just did what's called multiple threading, by the way. We jump into different topics and stuff like that. You keep the conversation fresh. And so I used to be on this stuff, man. It's like you got all little tabs at the top of the window. Yeah, you had some.
Starting point is 00:37:59 X in them out. Man, this is... I was going out like five nights out of seven getting trashed. I just getting fucked up. I'd waste my money. I remember that a girl's like, where are your money going? I had to think like, damn, bitch, I truly don't know. I had to look at a bar tab on time.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I always feel like if you're going out and really trying to run game and really try to meet girls, you can't really be getting super drunk, right? Because you become an idiot who doesn't remember any of the stuff that you learned about how to talk to women, right? Depends. Depends on if you let it start. start to get up there. Right. Once you start to let it get up there,
Starting point is 00:38:34 because you have to have a pack. Like, we literally had a group called The Brotherhood, and that's what we did. Like, we used to go in there, like, maybe five, six things, and go on there, and we do this thing called create a scene. And so now we're the people to talk about,
Starting point is 00:38:49 and the girls are gonna, who are you guys, you know, all this stuff. You get to snatch a girl in there real quick, dance with her chipper off and stuff like that. And for the most part, I mean, we're not doing a turpic-s-chlorian triumph, but we got somebody who's going to just go there and dance and shit like that because everybody can't be doing every goddamn thing.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So, you know, it's those things when you walk in. Like a lot of guys don't notice. If you're not that guy, get 50 bucks and tip the goddamn security guy. I wait for the club to literally get a line out there and walk past and kind of eye boss people like, hey, what's going on, bro? Good night, good night. You do that. And then you go to the front of the line and you tip that damn security guard
Starting point is 00:39:29 and you get in there, they're going to wonder who the fuck are you. And then once you do that, all you have to do is open your mouth and just talk to people the first couple of people you see. Talk to them. That'll get your social anxiety down. If you get your social anxiety down, then you're good. Then you can run, like I said, with this right here, this means that you're the person that people call when they need help.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You're the first person. You're typically that person. Hey, 11 a.m. Adam, man, I need some help, bro. You think you can help me out? Did you agree with that? Right. Nobody asked me for help.
Starting point is 00:40:02 They don't ask you for help? They all know I'm too busy and I don't have any ability to help. So I could have sworn I've seen some stories of you, you know, helping some people out to get them out of a jam because out of your own mouth, you said, well, I needed that person. That's a short list. Yeah, but they knew to call you. And if you give a damn about them, will you help? Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'll probably like have one of my employees helping out. But still, you're still in the name of Adam, you know. But that's just a truism. That's all that is. If you were to do like this, I would say you typically tend to be a fighter. So when you was on your big 22st to run and stuff like that, that's what you were doing.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I would have that. But it's nothing but truisms. I still have that. I would hope so. I'm still big 22. I got to ask you. Because I hit you twice with it. You ain't really saying that.
Starting point is 00:40:48 You just liked it. What? Would you do hot ones? Would I do it now after my recent encounter with Sean Evans? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, sure. Not even in particular for that one, but, you know, like, dude, ask some dope-ass questions. I'm pretty sure you watch it a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:41:03 That's one thing that she told me is that I assumed that he had, like, a big-ass writing team putting together all the questions on hot ones, right? Right. It's just him studying and writing questions. And that's what's interesting about it is that, like, everything I say on this podcast, none of it's scripted. Even my notes that I write down are just, like, one word or, like, a sentence at most. But he'll write, like, a whole big-ass paragraph that's very eloquent. And comes together very nicely with the editing and everything like that. But she did say that, like, his whole life is basically just writing and researching for who he's going to interview on there, which is pretty interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:41:39 It is. But shit. Would I go on there just on the basis of, like, would I eat a bunch of spicy wings? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. I don't give a fuck, sure. You would do that? I'm not scared of that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, I'm scared. I ain't a lot of. You don't like spicy food? I can't do it, bro. I cannot. Bro, I can't do spicy food. Maybe I don't know how. bad it would actually be. Like maybe they're worse than I'm imagining. Maybe I've never even had wings
Starting point is 00:42:02 that are as bad as it gets on there, but I don't know. I just feel like because it's a TV show and shit that's going to like have you fucking vomiting and shit. I feel like it can't be that bad. You got a point. I didn't think about that. Because I don't really see people freaking out that bad on the show that much. That's like one of the reasons I stopped watching it. It doesn't really feel like most people are really like affected by it doesn't seem like they're spicy enough. But maybe I just don't watch it enough. I can't remember the last time I watched the episode. I haven't watched it in a while.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Do you think you ruined that relationship? I just interviewed her and she basically said that there's at least some level of animosity towards me because he unfollowed me. But she basically said that he never mentioned me and it was definitely going to happen anyway. Because keep in mind, like, even before I said anything about it, there was tweets with 50,000 likes about them dating. Yeah, but you were a face. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:56 I'm an easy person to like, and I obviously knew what I was doing, throwing myself in the mix, but it's like, it already was going to be pretty rough for him in terms of like how much shit he was going to have to hear about his girlfriend. That's wild, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I'll be honest with you. And she made it clear too that he didn't even like look to her, like according to what he said to her, he hadn't like looked up or porn or anything. Oh. It's not like, it's not like he went out of his way to see every single thing she ever did.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Because if he did, I mean, seeing the love of your life with the big fat cock against her face, seeing her lick the hairy butthole. She's eating booty. I mean, I don't even know. But, I mean, probably, like, if she's really doing a thing in this game. I mean, to each day on, I don't. You could say, like, I'm cool with my girl having a only fence.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Oh, yeah. Well, you're cool with seeing her lick a hairy asshole. It's a little different once you get down to the details. The truth is in the details. Yeah, I don't want to see them details. That's funny, though. A lot of details. To you stay on, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I don't run like, I don't want to say porn content. I don't run sexuality content on my shit because I truly just don't give a fuck. Like whatever. As soon as I saw them on a relationship or whatever, A, I didn't think it was serious. And then B, I was like, well, if that is serious, that's not going to work. Well, how long were they together? There's no way he was going to be able to handle that. They were hanging out for like months, like a couple months before it became a public thing.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But they were in Chicago, white people hanging out in Chicago. It has a lot of white people in Chicago. Didn't even know. Had no idea. But it turns out they're out there too. It's not just O'block. No, no, no, no. Shout out to Durkie.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Shout out my guy, Dirkie, man. I'm just kidding. I spent a lot of time in Chicago not anywhere near the hood. I mean, it's not all hood. I've done that part, too. But for the most part, most of the time I've been in Chicago has been doing like normal person's shit. Well, think about it like this.
Starting point is 00:44:50 They're allowing that shit to happen. 100%. The government? Yeah, because think about it this way. Where do the White Sox play? I don't know. They play in the south side of Chicago. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Think about USC. It's smack dab in the hood. Right. You get what I'm saying? They're about to move the Clipper Stadium. They're about to move the England. This stuff, they allow it all the time. And for the most part, once you start to realize it, you just kind of realize how poisonous a hood is actually set up.
Starting point is 00:45:19 They're typically by freeways. Those freeways, they have a lot of pollution. That pollution does what? it gives you shit that happens with your lungs. A lot of asthma, a lot of breathing problems. A lot of this shit happens and it's directly in the hood. You had a whole entire section like of Detroit. A whole entire thing of St. Louis.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Where that arch was, that was actually a black neighborhood. That was a whole entire black populated neighborhood. You had Detroit black bottom. That right there was an accumulated amount of people with a good sense of wealth. They put a damn freeway through there. You go to Central Park in New York. That was a black neighborhood. they never tell you these things
Starting point is 00:45:57 because if they do you might go damn that's pretty messed up then somebody might rise up for lack of better words to actually do something and if they do that with the people then you can allocate the funds but a lot of people don't want to do that because they get
Starting point is 00:46:13 fixated on the quote unquote puppet of the damn president not realizing that oh man my governor is the one who actually controls shit in my life when I get on when I get on Instagram and stuff like that and I talk about stuff like this
Starting point is 00:46:28 they get silent because they go Oh Joe Biden Joe Biden Joe Biden Joe Biden He's sending billions of dollars To Ukraine Well let me ask you What the hell does a dollar do in Ukraine So we're sending shit over there That cost this amount but
Starting point is 00:46:43 Do you know 80% of the We've provided to them are old weapons That we don't use anymore? Yeah I know so when people tell you Like the dollar amount that we've sent to you grand it's kind of like well they don't know but let's not entirely accurate but let's let's do it this way disproportionately in war they're going to send the black people out there any fucking ways so would you rather us have the ukrainians fight the russians who we always thought were these super ops that can
Starting point is 00:47:09 destroy us or would you rather had a rather had a ukrainians fight the war for us it's like getting your little homie to run the faith for you and you ain't got to do nothing and all he's going to do is whoop them down just the case to get bad we had to do something as far as provide for ukraine now What ends up happening is, and this is where Joe Biden is one of the worst presidents, is we're now one of the main exporters of oil. He's not as green as he may seem as far as what he's doing. So we're one of the main exporters, we're using up our reserves more. They don't pay attention to this.
Starting point is 00:47:44 So when I hear these people talk, I'm like, y'all don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Go look up what the fed sent your governor last year. But from my perspective, you're acting like the cops don't. want to solve all these murders and shit. It feels like they're actually pretty aggressively policing people and like really trying to solve these murders, right? It's just it's difficult to solve murders. People beat them all the fucking time.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I mean, I don't know. Like, why would they not want to solve murders? They're judged pretty harshly based on the number of murders that they don't solve. So you ever heard of the blue flu? No. The blue flu is when the cops would call in on certain days. Go look up every single Memorial Day. Fourth of July, how many cops call in sick?
Starting point is 00:48:27 When you know this is the most violent time of the year, what it does is it allows more funding for them. Think of this. How many jobs have been provided just because of gangs? So when you look at it this way, we got parole officers, probation officers, we got gang units, we got investigators, we got cops, and then we have a slew of prosecutors. They got to fund this somehow. They used to have a building on the Gold Coast in goddamn Chicago where they used to abduct people. He used to take them there, hold them 48 hours, 72 hours, and question them about a whole bunch of stuff. They shut that down.
Starting point is 00:49:07 That's the stuff they don't tell you. So, like, there's going to be people who react to Sunday, next to the National Day of Chicago. Oh, shit. He mentioned the warehouse of Gold Coast that the police used to take us and beat our ass. Oh, shit, he do be out here. So you'll get those things where they're actively doing this to stay. Stay in power because if we have a need for the police to do certain things, then you're going to say, well, look, they just robbed these guys. They just shot these guys.
Starting point is 00:49:32 They just did this. But it's amazing how when the police show up, everybody stopped doing crimes. But would you say that it's not like they could stop all the gangs and the murders in Chicago if they wanted to? Yeah, they could. The problem is out of control. No, no, no. What are they going to do to stop it? It's easy.
Starting point is 00:49:50 What you do is you learn. how to, one, get active in the community. And I literally talked to a cop about this shit when I was in Wyoming on a flat tire and shit like this. And what ended up happening is we had a conversation literally about this. I said, if y'all start coming around and playing clothes like y'all used to in these gyms and everything
Starting point is 00:50:10 and y'all start integrating like Tommy Norman in Little Rock, Arkansas, who literally will go to these hoods, provide juice, candy, all these things, supplies and all this stuff to the lower income houses and stuff like that. What I happen is every time I see you, I'm not pissed off at you for taking somebody from me. See, every time I see the police officer, he's taking somebody I love.
Starting point is 00:50:34 You may see him as a murder, as a drug dealer, as a person who does all these crimes, these illicit activities. I see this person as my fighter, my protector, my provider, the person who is the most sagacious male that I met in my life. So you get these things that happen. But what happens if you'll have a. conversation with me about what they did that was so wrong. And on top of that, there's no safe place to go to. What happens with the youth committing crimes? The youth commit crimes from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Because that's when they're out of school. Where's the after school programs? Where's all of these things that could actually help out? You need kids to be able to do stuff when a boy is sitting there and his legs is just going and he has all this pent up energy. He needs to do something. This is why sports so prevalent. They don't tell you in Chicago, they got a lot of dope-ass basketball players. You'd be surprised how many NBA players and overseas players are fresh out of Chicago. Just that city in particular, it has over 5 million people, but they'll paint you this picture that the blacks there don't care. But you got the guardians. You got these OGs who have legal license to carry and they walk kids to school every single day. You have actual
Starting point is 00:51:43 protests that go on in Chicago. You have actual bands. You have actual marching. You have stopped the violence and stuff like that. You have Father Flager out there, the Catholic goddamn priest out there, preaching, trying to get us to help. You got Minister Louis Farrakhan out there. These are actual staples that are trying to help. But if I don't give them that much spotlight, then that's what's going to happen. See, what they could do is they could literally start to fund for the next goddamn group.
Starting point is 00:52:14 This is when they were saying defund the police. what they were talking about is reallocate the funds. You just had in Memphis get, you had in Memphis, the police department get $50 million to help out the neighborhoods. What the fuck is the police going to do with that? Right. They're just going to sit up there and strap up and do all this shit. If you ever been to Memphis, the roads in there are eroded.
Starting point is 00:52:34 It's terrible. You know, there's nothing to do there. You only have Bill Street for certain things for people to do, and then you have outside shit like Germantown and everything. But for the most part, even where the crimes are happening there, they're all in a certain section. Why are they in a certain section? If Memphis was that bad,
Starting point is 00:52:50 Bill Street should be shot up every single goddamn day. But it's not that Memphis is bad. It's that certain neighborhoods are bad, right? Yeah. And that's what it is, is concentrated violence. There's the most poverty-stricken areas. That's where the violence occurs.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Every single time. So if they took a chance on these kids to start giving real programs, where are the computers to sit these kids at and teach them certain things? I think the thing is is that even if you gave those kids computers and more education
Starting point is 00:53:19 and more activities and stuff, the family units being so fucked and like the culture in general in terms of like what's respected and appreciated and stuff would probably still stand in the way of a lot of those kids becoming successful
Starting point is 00:53:35 or being able to like leave the neighborhood. Actually not. What you see every Saturday is a bunch of kids dressed up in football gear. But what about that kid who can't run fast? Can we get them on a baseball program? Baseball players make a shit ton of money. In the 90s, baseball was number one. Everybody was able to play, but it's expensive as hell. Pro sports and music and entertainment are not going to fix what's wrong. No, no, but it's a start for little boys. You got to remember, little boys learn
Starting point is 00:54:03 because they're energetic as hell. We can't sit these little young men out to do the shit that the little girls are doing. The little girls pay attention more. more attention to details. The success rate of a little girl versus a little boy in the hood are goddamn miles away. When they talk about the reading levels, they're talking about the boys. They're not talking about the girls. So you have
Starting point is 00:54:25 to figure out another way in which to teach the boys because they got a lot of pent up energy. They don't know what the fuck to do with it. They don't know when puberty hits what the fuck to do or anything like that. It's those things, but people haven't taken time out. And I would even challenge the religious institutions
Starting point is 00:54:41 to do that. When people come out of the jail or prison, typically what they do in the hood is, they go straight to church. They go straight to mosque. Where the fuck are the programs for them to become truckers or electricians and all this shit? When somebody really wants to change, they need an opportunity to change. But they go to these stands and it's, oh, praise Allah, praise Jesus, praise, you know, all of these things. But, hey, while I'm in this house of prayer, the devil outside my dough.
Starting point is 00:55:08 It's only so long I can stop them from doing this. But most of these districts are like super underfunded. So it feels like, you know, these are the same places that have almost no money for their schools. So the idea of them having tons of money for programs for convicts and shit, it just seems like kind of a stretch. It's not a ton of money, though. That's the funniest part about it. When you look at the homeless problem in L.A., right? It'll start off as building some housing units for $150,000.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Right. And they've put so much money into building housing units for the homeless in L.A. And they have made, like, no fucking progress. You want to know why? It's unbelievably corrupt and just fucked. You know why, right? Why? Because of how many people is needed to approve all it is.
Starting point is 00:55:47 That unit goes from $150,000 to $400,000 just to do this one unit. And nobody wants it in their neighborhood. Exactly. So now you have the task of getting it done, but now it requires more funding. And what do we do? Kick the shit right down. Kick the can down the road. It's these things that they're not doing, but they're not doing it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Like where I was born, I was born in Sacramento, California. I was bored. Do you not agree that at the end of the day, the government, we all know the government sucks to getting shit done. It's on the people themselves. It's not the stuff that's really like supplied to them by the government stuff, right? It is. If anything's going to fix these low-income neighborhoods, it's going to have to be the people really like coming together and rising up, right? It's not going to be like the government does something for them and then all of a sudden everything's better.
Starting point is 00:56:34 It's holding your leaders to task. Exactly. But who are the leaders? So the leaders are your mayors. Your leaders are your district. I can't think of the damn thing right now Those all the employees of the city, right? No, you have your council.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So you have your district councilman. That's the person right there. If you don't know your district councilman, that's a problem. Because who's supposed to fix this pothole in your goddamn street? Y'all actually have a budget in your city that allocates funds for certain things.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Look at how expensive the goddamn police are. Out here, I think it's $2 billion as to LAPD. You don't think that we couldn't take $500 million. of that and allocating to certain things that will stop a lot of shit before it started. If I can keep you busy and I can keep you doing certain things, you'll start to believe in yourself. The problem is, is the confidence,
Starting point is 00:57:20 the competency of education is fell in the fuck out of us. And all the education in the world is not going to change the fact that the parents aren't giving these kids like a worldview that is going to even allow them to succeed in many cases. That's just how I see it. But anyway, I wanted to ask you about
Starting point is 00:57:36 what is this thing lately with no love and him coming at you because he fucking finesse two times brother, right? Oh, he came at me? You didn't see that? Nah. I feel bad interrupting for that, Ben.
Starting point is 00:57:48 For real? Yeah, he's like looking at you in the fucking video and dissing you. You didn't see this? How the fuck are you online so much and you didn't see this? I didn't see it. Really? Let me see. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to find like a clip that fully.
Starting point is 00:58:00 But he can shut this bitch ass up. I ain't worried about it. You ain't your whole ass brother. Y'all know what time it is. Do you know him or anything? I have no idea. I didn't even know what fuck you're talking about? I'm like, Nola.
Starting point is 00:58:08 What the fuck? You're a virgin or something? Hopefully, I'm not fucking up, but... Damn. I thought... I mean, I can't even find it right now, so I guess I'm not going to be able to be of any luck,
Starting point is 00:58:18 but I've seen a clip of him fucking reacting to you. And he was talking about... You're talking about, you say, like, get your wrist game up and all that shit? I think so. Man, first off, I don't rock jewelry.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So, bitch, why the fuck would I get my wrist game up? I don't wear jewelry. It does nothing for me. I'm not about to sit up here with shiny metal and shit like that and think that makes me somebody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm not dissing anybody when I say it. but, man, fuck him, bro, hey, look. I can't even find it, so shut out to whoever is going to be able to, like, either correct me or...
Starting point is 00:58:47 I ain't worried about it. Well, you know what it is. You know the truth, though? I know the two people that said that finesse two times told on him. And when I was last up here, I said, hey, bro, I'm gonna wait until I see the paperwork
Starting point is 00:58:58 before I come out and dish your bitch ass. And now that the paperwork is out, I can disfinest two times bitch ass and how your brother is about to lose his fucking clothing business that he stole from a cat out of Goddamn Cleveland, Ohio. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:11 Yeah, the whole Fennas, the back end brand, that's not his. Really? And the lawyer that wrote the contract went to fucking jail. Holy shit. So when Finesse is talking that little weird ass shit
Starting point is 00:59:22 and how you grooming this little kid to smack strippers' asses and fucking clubs and shit like, man, fuck you. And real life, I smack the shit out of you and your brother. Real life, I will smack the fuck out you. I don't do the tough guy shit on the internet no more because I don't care to be tough
Starting point is 00:59:36 anymore on the internet. That does nothing for me. But as far as your city, I don't walk through Memphis plenty times live stream. Plenty times. Ain't been touched yet. I'm not saying come do something to me and all that shit. But you or your brother, when you bitch-ass motherfuckers?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Just fake headlocking. Oh, man, I ain't worried about that whole ass shit, bro. Bitch-ass bitch is going to do what bitch-ass bitches do. It just is what it is. But as far as no love, hey, bro, listen, check me out. In real life, bro, I'm not that dude you want to play with. go play with yourself, go play with your kids, go play with the little kid that's playing with asses in the strip club and shit like that, that y'all should be in jail for growing a goddamn kid,
Starting point is 01:00:16 but it is what it is. All right, how old does a boy have to be before he can smack asses in the strip club? 18. 18. You got to, at some point in time, we do have to allow a kid to be a kid. What if, let's say, your cousin is 16 and he's like the new soldier boy. He's like the flyest young Gucci backpack Yeah, no shirt on, chain
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah, you're shooting a video He wants to smack some asses in the video So too much when he's 16 No, well here's the thing It's a morality thing I'm from California So my thing is 18 But the majority of states
Starting point is 01:00:57 The age of consent is 16 You can look at it. It doesn't feel like anyone gives a shit about that It feels like the national Morality age of consent is 18 even if technically it's 16. The literal laws are 16. It's 30.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But it doesn't feel like that would save you at all when it comes to like Twitter judging you, right? No, because think about it this way. What's because Cah's name? Seinfeld. Seinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld. He was dating a 17-year-old.
Starting point is 01:01:25 But the age of consent in New York is 17. I remember this. So what are we talking about? It's just a morality thing. I'm from Cali, 18, 18, 18, 18. 18. But that's what it is. But I know, because I have a place in Georgia, the age you can send it 16.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I know cats right now. I was like, yeah, I was 25 years old, and I married my 16-year-old wife. And in my mind, I'm like, what the fuck? Like in recent memory? Yeah. Damn, see, I feel like that you just are going to get destroyed on social media for that, regardless of if it's illegal. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I don't think it's right. But by law, they're not doing anything wrong. And he met the parents. I'm like, nah, bro, nah, hell nah. No, they want to clip that part out and be like, oh, city nances. Nah, bro, what I'm saying is, is that it's a morality thing. It's a California thing. So, Boosey getting his 14-year-old.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I don't like it. I hate it that shit. He got him some top. He got a stripping the suck and a dick allegedly. 14 is yelled no. Nah, bro. Nah, that's foul. But we have a scarcity of the, I got to say it the right way.
Starting point is 01:02:28 The LGBTQIA plus community pushing whatever day pushing to convert your child. You have kids? Yeah. How many? Quatro. How old? Teenagers. At what age would you take your kid to the strip club with you?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Assuming that was just something that you would do. You had an 18-year-old daughter, you would let her just be in the strip club, just chilling in your section on her phone? I'm not taking my daughters to the goddamn strip club. Hell not. But, you know, I'll pick her up. You know, at a certain point in time, you got to learn that you don't raise your kids that you actually grow them.
Starting point is 01:03:03 you grow your kid into whatever they're going to be. You got an idea what your daughter is going to be when she gets older. So it's on you to put certain obstacles in her way for her to accomplish them to get her confidence up. So you got to test her competency if she really wants to do this. Your daughter may say, I don't know. It's got to be weird having your kid know that you go to the strip club. I don't really go to the strip club, though. I don't either.
Starting point is 01:03:27 It would just be weird to have like a grown-ass kid or like a 16, 17, 18-year-old kid. who's just like looking at you, knowing that that's what you do. And it just feels like it would be hard for them to understand that like this is not necessarily like the most debauchous place on earth. It's kind of just like a bar where there's some chicks dancing. But it's kind of messed up because one of the biggest lies that spread in the hood is that I can't really say the P word, but that kids are getting touched in the hood and they're cool with that. It's a lot of cats in every hood that have messed with some young ass brides. my grandma was 15 she got married to a 37-year-old man
Starting point is 01:04:05 who popped in eight kids in her. To be fair, that was probably like extremely common back in the day. Yeah, she was born in the 40s. She's from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And then they came out to California during the rush, the SoCal rush, as they like to put it. That's why it's weird with that thing like the Jerry Seinfeld thing because that was like a thing at the time,
Starting point is 01:04:25 but it wasn't that big of a thing. You know why? And even Tiger. people talked about it, him and Kylie dating, but it wasn't like everybody was, you know, it was disgust on Twitter, but it wasn't like the way it would be now where it would be like the only thing that they talked about.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I don't think so because money allows people to muddy it up a little bit. But this was, what was it, 2012, 2013, 14, some shit like that when Tygo was hanging out with her. Yeah. Felt like that, yes, that was like 10 years ago, that was like a million years ago in terms of like how people communicate We're in a microwave society. But I just, for me, the money allows it to muddy it up because you've seen them on a jet.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Who paid for that jet? Tate can't got no goddamn money. She paid for that jet. So it's like she's paying for this older cat to be doing all of these things and stuff like that. And then, unfortunately, we're in California. So the morality of California is different because, yeah, we had an 18 stuff, but then we have like an influx of Hispanics here, more Mexicans when you had a kinsignetta. Well, in Mexico, right?
Starting point is 01:05:33 15 years old, that's when you're a woman. You get what I'm saying? So it's money because, once again, it's a lot of money that I allow you to do so many things. Think of like a 14-year-old millionaire getting tattoos. What the hell can you tell them? Right. You can't say, you're going to mess your life up.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Bitch, I got money. A 14-year-old millionaire getting somebody pregnant or getting pregnant. Look at the cashman outside girl. She was like 15, messing with a young boy, right? Or like, okay, I wouldn't let my 16-year-old son smoke weed. But many times throughout my time running no jumper, I've been around some 16-year-old kids who are rolling bloods. And this is, they were raised that way.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Like, this is nothing to them. Like, what the fuck am I going to tell them? Oh, you need to wait a couple years because of what I think is normal? I mean, see, when I did security for the EBK cats in Stockton like years ago, when they was freshly like 18 and stuff like that, They had some younger cats and stuff like that and I would tell them, hey, bray, y'all got a, or that's going to shut it down.
Starting point is 01:06:34 But what I would do is I would tell them it's going to mess your money up. Hey, bro, if you had this young and in here, police going to come and they're going to shut this down. You guys ain't going to be invited anywhere else. Do you want to mess your money up? You had to give these, I'm pretty sure you do this with your child all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:50 You had to give them the false equivalency of choice. All right, you can do this, cool. But if you do this, you're going to mess your money up. Or do you want your money to keep on going and then y'all can just do this when y'all leave. If you do this, cool. So I'm going to give you the false option. You want your money.
Starting point is 01:07:06 All right, boom. So you're going to play with your money. And that's exactly how you do it. My girl told me that. I don't say, what do you want to wear? I say, do you want to wear the purple dress or the white dress? Yep. And then, you know, I don't want to eat my food.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Do you want to go to bed or do you want to eat your food? Which one do you want to do? And I eat my food. I got to, like, reflexively remit. to say that shit more. It's difficult, especially with girls, bro.
Starting point is 01:07:32 What was this altercation you had with Hurricane Chris? Tell me about it. He just a hating-ass bitch, that's all. And I don't... He killed someone. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:07:43 He ain't... Never mind. I saw him on Vlad tell the whole story. Oh, man, listen. It was a good story. It's the second body that count. I mean, fuck about. Man, I know cats that didn't fucking
Starting point is 01:07:53 had a seizure behind a wheel and killed somebody. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit don't matter. And you shot. running away. I'll be get the tear-dop tattoo right away.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Nah, you got it. Two counts. Seizure body. One don't matter. One don't, one don't. Boy, where'd you run into Hurricane, Chris? I ain't running to him because it would have been a real problem. No, I ain't running to him.
Starting point is 01:08:12 He just hopped on him. He'd been hopping on my YouTube doing lame-ass shit. Hayden on the comments. You don't know what you're talking about. This is this. You're a goofy and all this shit. In real life, you're a bitch. I will dip you on your hairline, bro.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Like, knock it the fuck out. You killed somebody running away, shooting in the air damn there. So doing like this and catching a body? It's accidental. That's cool. But you was on there crying like a little bitch. Because you knew. Streetport is really up there.
Starting point is 01:08:37 So I don't give a fuck. Probably stand bullshit. I mean, yeah, bullshit anyways. But nah, he just been doing lame-ass shit, Hayden. And for the most part, whenever a rapper jump in my inbox and start doing lame-ass shit, I'd never expose that conversation to the world. I still have to live under a certain cold where there's certain things I cannot do. So I'm not going to sit up here and be like, oh, hey,
Starting point is 01:08:59 Kay Chris, jumped in my inbox. Here's a screenshot of him acting like a bitch. I'm not going to do that. I'm not telling other people. I agree with that. And it seems like very few people agree with that now is that in general, exposing a private conversation is off limits unless you've declared war. Like if we're on good terms, I'm never going to expose something that you say to be publicly.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Now, if we fucking hate each other, I guess I'll do that. But that's not. You know, if we're cool, we don't expose. I still wouldn't do that. And I won't even, if you say something to me, I won't say it publicly unless I have your permission. Even like me and Vlad, we have that. He interviewed somebody recently. He knew something about them because I told him.
Starting point is 01:09:38 And he asked me, can I bring this up in the interview? And I said, I would really rather if you didn't. Yeah. To me, that's like civilized how you should interact with people you're cool with. Yeah, you should because if I did it in private, keep it in private. Right. But he did this shit publicly. So if you come after me publicly, now I get to eviscerate your monkey-ass motherfucker-y-man.
Starting point is 01:09:58 publicly. And so I just told them, keep my name out your snake-ass mouth. You are a ho. You didn't did whole shit to a bunch of rappers based off your little Tucson run. All right, cool. First off, you ain't never been a face of Louisiana ever in your fucking life. They're not going to let somebody up north even be a face of Louisiana like that. You're going to run in the cats from Lake Charles and Alexandria and Bugalusa or shit. Other places. It's typically New Orleans and Baton Rouge. That's it. But you even got places. Gonzales and all these other places that's really gangster. I'm not saying Streetpointing gangsta,
Starting point is 01:10:32 and they ain't thugging like that because they actually are. But as far as his monkey ass, dance songs and all that whole ass shit, bro, don't talk that gangster shit with me. Don't talk about how I'm a goofy and I don't know shit about the music industry. Bitch, you don't know who the fuck I know. You could just go to my Instagram and see the amount of rappers that follow me, the music executives that follow me. The reason I took the blue flag off my face was because a high,
Starting point is 01:10:58 I don't want to say ranking, but a person in a high place in the music industry literally told me, if you don't do this, you're going to pigeon toll. Pigeon hole yourself. You will not expand. You got to switch this up. So, yeah, fuck all that shit. But he's a bitch. I don't, man, fuck him.
Starting point is 01:11:16 That shit lame as hell what he did. Like, you don't know shit. You're goofy. You don't even be. I be everywhere I say I am. Every fucking one. One thing you just said, this is interesting. You said the thing about the blue rag.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I guess I kind of agreed that in general, if you're doing all your videos with a blue rag over your face, you're basically like putting yourself into such like a gangster category that's probably going to like close doors for you and stuff. But Wack has said that to me a few times. Tell Brick Baby to stop saying on 60, on rolling, etc. When he's podcasting because in a way that like, you know, you're taking the gangster shit too far into the podcast and stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Do you agree with that? Or do you think that that's just if that's how you talk? that's how you should just keep talking once you get on the mic. Well, the problem with it is, I get where WAC is coming from. That would have worked in the beginning. But that's a part of Brick's brand. Right. So when you're going back years and years, this is his common vernacular.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It actually works for him now. Right. So in a sense, Wack would be right in the inception. But now we, years into it. This man, there's a whole entire algorithm. So, nah. But once again, I can see where he comes. It's never too late to just start rocking a suit and just say, hey, I ain't a gangster no more.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I'm just a commentator. I'm a preacher. I'm whatever you want to be. You could always switch it up. But if you're going to switch it up, you've got to go the whole way. Can't do it now, though. You can never diss another op and you've got to wear a suit. But it has to be older.
Starting point is 01:12:47 You have to have the graze. You have to have the sagacity for it. You have to be the wisdom person. You essentially got to be a sage now. I'm not saying there's any chance of break baby doing this sort of heel turn. But I'm just saying in general, I feel like people sometimes in the commentary space or the podcast space, YouTube space, they discount the possibility of you just completely changing shit up and just doing shit completely different. Yeah, eventually you have to recreate yourself. If I started wearing a suit and I stop smoking weed on camera and I stop talking about fucking.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Give it a couple years, people are going to view me differently. Yeah, but you have to create another brand though. Yeah. You have to create something outside of no jumper because when people are coming for no jumper, They come from rap news, a little rashness, these things. Right. So when they're coming for Brick, it's the street aspect of it. Even if Brick wanted to, which I don't know, I ain't talked about it.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I'm going to support Brick and everything that he do, but at the same time, this is a part of his brand. So once again, I get what Wack is coming from, but at the same time, this is so ingratiated within Brick, his persona online and who he is as a person, that it's just saying going to work. because there is this this fascination with what he's saying. It is a fascination with the tattoos. It is a fascination with South Central Los Angeles. It is a fascination with, you know, him being the face of certain things. So that may be why they are here.
Starting point is 01:14:10 You know what I'm saying? It's captivating the song. I have 11 minutes before I have to dip. I want to ask you this because I have not talked about this on camera. How did you feel seeing AD getting manhandled outside the club in San Diego? Diego. So. And there was a lot of back and forth.
Starting point is 01:14:27 I just want to lay you behind the, the, the, the, what do you mean? When we were doing the no jumper post, I'm going back and forth like, you're going back and forth with AD? No. We're talking to the team about how we're going to title it. Ah. Former no jumper host, AD. We landed on attacked.
Starting point is 01:14:43 Yeah. But we considered beat up and we considered manhandled. What did you ultimately go with? Ultimately, we were going with attacked. That's, that's, that's. And even. Even that felt a little, like, aggressive, like, you know, like, we could, we probably put altercation. We could have said gotten an altercation.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it felt like, at least from that clip, it was a little too one-sided for us to just say altercation. It was a little, like, too nice. Well, allegedly. Right. And I don't know because I ain't seen it. But he went on academics to stream and spoke on it with OT a little bit. I didn't, I didn't see it because I saw like a 60-second version of them talking on a stream.
Starting point is 01:15:20 I'm not sure how long they actually talked for, but. I don't know. Because I know I'm a holler at him about it And then she what he comes from. But you asked for it, so I'm going to give it to you. From what I seen, from how it looked, it looked like AD was drunk. But it also looked like...
Starting point is 01:15:33 I think he confirmed that as well on the call, yeah. Oh, well, even better. You definitely look drunk. So not only that, he didn't get up aggressively. If you just got knocked out, I got your ass whipped, you're getting up swinging like zangy. And that's one of the funniest things or the thing that people have drawn attention to
Starting point is 01:15:48 is that after this guy who's kind of like on top of him gets off of him. His immediate reaction is not to leap to his feet and attack him or leap to his feet at all. It's to remain seated and put his shirt back on, which is kind of funny. But you know it would have been more wild if he would have just got up like the undertaker, it would have been like, and then went and went after him. But I think more than likely what happened, and if there's more footage it will come out, I think what happened is they probably was wrestling and then AD because he has more weight,
Starting point is 01:16:18 got that weight transfer. It's rudimentary physics. Because, okay, this is what he said on the call is that basically they walk in to the club. So I'm thinking that this happened like in the club, in the sections, going to war, section, bottle wars, and then this was like a fight that spilled
Starting point is 01:16:33 out outside. They were walking in and OT kind of has the security fucking with them for a second, like trying to stop them or some shit and like OT tells them like, hey, don't play with me or some shit. And then all of a sudden, AD's like swinging on one of the security guys. It's probably like an oversimification
Starting point is 01:16:49 but basically like, and actually they're like literally probably going to talk about it tonight so we'll get to hear a better rendition of it. I'm going to pull up. Yeah, they get into a fight and then it spills outside because it's obvious from the video that something happened before and something happened after. This is a 10 second clip and it's probably, or I think 17 seconds or something like that. It's, it seems like it's the most embarrassing worst part of the clip. You know, like it's like they didn't show how this ended up happening. They just show the part where AD is being manhaled by
Starting point is 01:17:22 this guy and it doesn't make them look good. We have no idea. And one thing the AD said in the clip, talking in Agenemy's, is that what's his name? Trey. One of the other guys that they hang out with. Trey. Yeah. Was literally like on the ground with the security on top of him
Starting point is 01:17:38 as this was happening. So there's a bunch of other shit happening that you didn't see it. I got to go review that clip. Yeah. I got to go review that clip. I'm not sure if you can actually see it. I did hear that Trey bit somebody. So I did hear that part Which hey when this fight ain't no rules of fight I'll tell you that right now
Starting point is 01:17:55 Right I'm a captain this ain't don't hit you in the eyes If I had to I know like in the short term Obviously we're all just gonna get a jokes off And comment on this And there's gonna be memes or whatever But ultimately like
Starting point is 01:18:06 I consider a fight at the club To be like the least damning type of fight Right Everyone's drunk You're probably wearing some weird ass shoes is slippery on the fucking floor you're falling all over the place and realistically
Starting point is 01:18:22 most of the time or like a lot of the times in the club it's just like a fight and there's no guns you can't get in the club with a gun for the most part for most people so it just doesn't turn into that
Starting point is 01:18:32 and this is out of town too yeah so he's probably it was in San Diego oh so he's moving differently than he probably would move at a club and how well hey you would think all right all right
Starting point is 01:18:42 I didn't know where it happened at yeah but I mean your equilibrium is off I've been a head bouncer before So it's, when you're dealing with drunk-ass people, they have the confidence of an ox, but had the goddamn stance of a toddler. So it's, you know, it's difficult to essentially be able to properly defend yourself.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Because it definitely looked like AD was inebred in that. But as long as he wasn't getting UFC, head pounding the ground, punchstone and everything like that, and that damn lock that OT Genesis put on them, I was looking, I was trying to see if he pressed his armor But even then, like I said, I don't think that AD lost because if that's my homie and I happen to him, even when the security grab you, I'm hitting you real quick. I got to hit you with something. Based on that video obviously doesn't look good.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Yeah. But it's also like not enough for me to really make a judgment of how it went down. To me, okay, if you get in a fight of the club, you get your ass beat, that's an L. Yes, you look bad. but if you get to live another day and you didn't do some ho's shit it's ultimately not that big of an hell they gotta go all like we did I got a viral fight
Starting point is 01:19:53 when knocking somebody out Oh for real? Yeah, I don't even know about this Put his ass on the ground But it's a short, long story short There's a dude just shit talking And Lubei Fiasco was on stage And he was like
Starting point is 01:20:04 And I wouldn't grab dude But it's another dude who grabbing him It was like a big ass dude Like 6-6 Damn near each screws for goddamn I'm breakfast. Do it security is crazy because all of a sudden you're beefing with random people on behalf of whatever rapper hires you, right?
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah. That's sick. But the funnier part is, if you approach him with a lot of respect, like, let's just say, no disrespect to Josh, but Josh is shorter and stuff like that. Josh are Josh. Yeah. Okay. If I was to walk with Josh and stuff like that, he was getting out of his body a little bit,
Starting point is 01:20:33 I'd be, hey, big dog, you know, hey, man, don't ruin your night. I'm going to talk you off the ledge. Right. Because a lot of people don't notice, the job of the security is not to harm. harm people. It's to de-escalate the situation. Let me save the person I'm supposed to save. Get them out of harm's way. Make sure they get out of here. Now, if you take it up with me, then that's what we're going to do. And that's why it's important, especially in a place like L.A., and especially if you're dealing with rappers and people who might
Starting point is 01:20:58 interact with gang members and shit, if your security understands the streets and has a certain degree of respect, that's going to go a long way. Because a lot of people in L.A. in terms of gangsters and shit, they're not going to respect someone on some tough shit unless they are from somewhere and can communicate that. And I've kind of seen that dynamic where if you're like a real square security guard, it ain't gonna go well. You're not gonna get the respect of a lot of the people that you might.
Starting point is 01:21:25 But you gotta be tuning. You gotta be a turn to another affiliate. Like you gotta be with them hands. Like, you know, when I got caught, it's because I could really fight. But I also knew how to talk to people. Right. So I know if you're getting out your body,
Starting point is 01:21:37 I know, hey, big homie, hey, can you calm that down? You're looking at me. You're like five or seven. Oh, this is six foot three big ass dude. call we big hoby yeah i'm gonna turn it down bro you came here the father you came here to get bitches which one you which one you doing so i know how to manipulate you mentally so that you don't crash out like the last fight that's a good one yeah no you have to though because like for me the last fight i got into when i was doing security was from a dude that was cussing me the fuck out right
Starting point is 01:22:01 i mean literally you a bitch-ass dicking fuck you all this shit i'm like all right man yeah have a good one have a good night man you've been drinking don't drink it dry now bitch i'll drink whatever fuck you i'm gonna get drunk in this park a lot all right cool man just drink and drive us, police down this motherfucker. But where I lost it was, he said, I'm gonna go to the car. Now, I know what that mean. Right. And then whenever people
Starting point is 01:22:22 are fighting, I swear to you, it doesn't look like they throwing a million punches, it's always this shit. Go for the big hit. Here right here, boom. Slap him right there. Take your ass to sleep. That shit. It's not like, once again, it's not hard when you doing security to fuck somebody ass up, especially in a bar. They're already drunk.
Starting point is 01:22:40 If you can't whip a drunk person's ass, you shouldn't be there. But like when I get around bouncers and shit, I always tell the story of when I didn't. Like, and there was three motherfuckers yelling at me and shit, oh, fuck you and all this shit? And I looked at him right in their face and said, this is how you motherfuckers going to do me? I don't know if I ever had to fight a drunk person while I was sober.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Can you really like see the punches coming? Yes, you can. Damn, that's going to be. That's going to be a great feeling. I promise you. But like, to finish the story of, I just looked at these guys and was like, this how you motherfuckers going to do me? After all the shit I let you motherfuckers get away with? They just dropped their head and walk the fuck off.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Because I was saying was true. I let you motherfuckers come in here. Do certain shit I'm supposed to kick you out on. I don't. I tell you, calm it down. I know that this place is like 20 minutes away. You didn't got in your best dressed. You don't put on your colognes.
Starting point is 01:23:27 You'll smell good and shit like that. The bitch ain't fucking what you. Probably don't bother this expensive-ass drink and all this. And I'm the person telling you all night is over. Man, fuck you. I can't say fuck this bitch, but fuck you. I'm going to do something. So I know it's not me.
Starting point is 01:23:40 It's the rejection. But since it's, seems like I'm the last fucking step, you're going to try to step on that shit. And I just, you know, for the most part, I approach a lot of shit with a lot of respect. I learned that doing this podcast and stuff. People are going to have their opinions about you. They're going to like you. And I ain't going to hold you.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I want to ask you this. How the fuck do you deal with that shit? Like, bro, you'll be having like 100 videos a day with people just coming at your head. Like, what stops you from just doing lame shit? Like, man, fuck this person. Fuck that person. I've seen whole channels dedicated to this and you. You know, it's just like, what,
Starting point is 01:24:12 Other people think of me is none of my business. Yeah. I think you just got to like get that through to yourself at a certain point. Because I've been dealing with that since high school. Like even in high school, I had a fucking blog with like 100 people reading it. And I was getting like serious hate because I was just talking shit. I can give a fuck. And like, what was it about?
Starting point is 01:24:31 It was just about my life. Like it was, there was this website called Live Journal that like everybody had when I was like 15 in the year like 2000 or 1999 or whatever. And like everybody in my school had it. This was like a precursor to face. book or MySpace or whatever and like I would just talk shit and like I was people would fucking hate me like even at a young young age what were you saying though like what was it listed in their I would talk about some shit that somebody did in school like I would just be like oh this kid is in the classroom and he's a fucking idiot I was just like you you're talking somebody
Starting point is 01:25:00 and at first it was like a surprise like oh fuck like people are going to read the shit I write like and then it became like well I don't like I'm just going to talk about shit but you slightly started it though oh yeah yeah I was totally provoking it but I was just kind of like Even at a young age, I was, like, getting myself used to that feeling of, like, people are going to hate you. Stakes and stuff. It's okay. It doesn't matter. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 01:25:22 I have to go to a fucking parent dinner. It's like literally, I'm going to a steakhouse with mad parents from the fucking school that my kid goes to. Probably just like a regular steakhouse. I don't know. But that's why I have to cut this interview short. And that's why I wish that Flacco and fucking all them were on here so they could make it longer because I feel like we could talk for at least another hour. We definitely go. We'll get it again.
Starting point is 01:25:43 We'll get it again. Gotta go hang out with Normies, dude. But I'm down. Yeah, no, I appreciate you. Talk about being a dad and not, like, who's snitching for a little while. All right. Yeah. Sedy Nash.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Let's do some shit soon. Let's do another one soon. No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. He said it. I don't have to. Like, comment, subscribe. But we out.

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