No Jumper - Celly Ru on ShooterGang Kony, Sacramento Politics, Mozzy, Jail Time & More

Episode Date: January 29, 2023

Celly Ru talks about his upbringing, getting into things very early on, being mixed, Mozzy, giving T-Rell his flowers, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Celly Ru shows his appreciation for T-Rell’s hairline 1:00 Celly Ru on losing his v card at 9 3:45 Celly Ru on catching a g*n charge at 12 6:35 Celly Ru talks about losing his uncle at 7 year old and losing his best friend Marcus at 16 10:30 Wanting to be a rapper since he was 5 years old and having an Asian mom and a black dad 13:00 Celly Ru talks about getting serious about music at 24 and linking up with Mozzy 22:30 Celly Ru talks about making sure his whole team eats and paying tribute to Mozzy while he’s locked up 24:45 Celly Ru gives his thoughts on the music industry as a whole and getting left on “read” 27:45 Celly Ru on what he thinks about “radio play” and what it’s like getting off lean 33:20 Cellyru talks about having less beef in Sacramento after spending time in LA and his take on diss tracks 35:20 T-Rell talks about losing his homie and clout chasing leading to losing people 38:00 Celly Ru on ShooterGang Kony beefing with Mozzy 42:35 Celly Ru gives his all-time favorite rappers and favorite LA artists 44:00 Celly Ru and T-Rell give their thoughts on marriage 46:30 Celly Ru talks about his first experience on No Jumper and The Kanye documentary 48:20 Celly Ru gives T-Rell his flowers for Back on Figg and says he’s a fan ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. What's the deal, man? Y'all back with T.Railman. And I got a special guest in the building right now. I got my boy, Selly Roo. You know what I mean? Sacktown, finest, you feel me, up in here. You're a real general out here, you know what I'm saying? I'm really happy to have you out here.

What's the deal, bro? I appreciate you having me, man. Yeah. Yeah, man. Before we started this interview, you said you appreciated my headline. So I really fuck with your shit, man. Yeah, man. fuck around and get your doctor number.

I'm fucking with my boy, man. So, man, you hear it with me, man. It's, uh, uh, I'm gonna need to know all the shit from you. You know what I'm saying? We, I'm, I'm asking all the shit. You feel me? Because I'm gonna give you what I can. I'm gonna give you what I can.

I need to know, man. But yeah, you feel? Me, sack town findings, man. I always, you know, you up north dudes. Man, you know, what's the difference between up north and Los Angeles, man, no, keep a G. Do you like Los Angeles better than Sacramento? I mean, I can't say I like it better.

You know, that's home. That's what I'm used to. I'm comfortable there. I know everything I know. So I can't say I like it better, but I definitely love L.A. I love living here. I like being here more than like being at home. It's a lot more to do.

And the motherfucker's a kid you don't shut down at 10 o'clock. Yeah. I mean, two in the morning. because niggas is burnt out here. So you really got a, you know what I mean? You got to space yourself out out here. Like, I mean, but I went up there. I didn't like it.

You feel what I'm like? But sack or just up north period. I went to sack too. I'm like, what y'all doing out here? What is y'all doing out there, bro? It ain't really too much to do. But get into it. But get into it.

Y'all niggas be getting into it. You know what I'm saying? But then tell me how it was, man, growing up there. You know, because I can tell you how to, you know, versus growing up. out here but how was it growing out growing up out there man in Sacramento this shit is regular like regular street shit yeah same shit everywhere else a little different I mean way of doing things yeah I mean but you was a badass kid so you know what I'm saying I had to I know what you got going on I know who you want but I had to do a little I need I needed to know a little bit more

specifics about you you feel me but you was a bad ass little nigger yeah I was a bad ass little nigger Yeah, I was. You know what I'm saying? You had that one story where you said, you lost your virginity at 9. I said, this motherfucker crazy. That comes from hanging around people older than you. Yeah. You learn the same, you get the same experiences as them, but you're younger, and they, they age.

I'm around people five, six years older than me at the time, so they're 15, 14. So that ain't, so that ain't raped, though, if a 15-year-old have sex with a 9-year-old. No, it ain't nothing to rape. She got you She got you, my boy, that's wild. They can't put a charge on a 15 year old. No, they can't. I wasn't going to tell nobody.

To even be ready to even be doing that though. Like, how are you even equipped to even know what the fuck's going on at nine years old, bro? Hang around people older than you. Yeah. You're learning shit at an age you shouldn't be learning it yet. I shouldn't even know about it yet, but you hang around people that this is the normal age for them to get into these type of things.

So that's really what that is. So, I mean, because the streets was normal then, you know what I'm saying? Because, like, when y'all start going into the streets and saying, you know what, this shit is popping out here? I mean, I wouldn't say around the same time, but a little bit, maybe about two, three years later, more. 13, 12, 12.

12, for sure. You getting it popping. That's the first time I went to the same. jail or juvenile for what pistol charge so you carry the gun at 12 years old

for what shoot another 12 year old same reason the nigga carry a gun today no hold on let's imagine that shit though two 12 you're my daughter 12 so she's coming the house with a burn I'm gonna be like what the fuck

are you doing like was it that hard outside it's different with a female but no it wasn't hard it's just like shit I can't I can't get caught slipping. I can't get caught playing. And then you got to remember, I'm 12. So everybody else, the niggas that I'm funking with and getting

into it with and all that, they're 17, 16, 18. Like, I'm 12. Oh, you're loke. That's crazy. Yeah, it ain't going to be the same. It ain't even. So I got to even it out somewhere and make it balance out. That's crazy. You know what I'm crazy? That's when the

was, that's when the street shit just happened? Or was that all together, like the blood shit too? Like, that's when you got into the whole, like... I mean, I thought I was a blood my whole life. Like, they got pictures of me four years old. Bulls jersey, bulls hat, throwing up the V, all that. So, I mean, I really thought I was doing that shit forever. But I really started banging for real, yeah, around 12.

Like I said, I always thought I was. But when I really got in the streets hanging out, meeting other people from the hood that I ain't really know... me or I seen him around at school that I never knew he was from the hood type shit that's when it started happening around 12 type shit I mean because was it like the influence from from Los Angeles

what was you looking at like because you know for me even being out here in Los Angeles being from this motherfucking seeing like I still was influenced by a gang and shit like the Cripsom Bloods mixed tape and all the whole little shit like I mean I for sure stumbled across that mix tape as a kid but it was more in-house shit my pops, uncles, older cousins, brothers, shit like that.

They was banging bloods? Yeah, for sure. Damn, that's crazy. How was that, you know what I'm saying? As a kid, seeing all the older folks banging bloods, was it, like, more fun? Because I always say when I was younger, I seen a lot more fun in the shit.

Like, I didn't see a lot. Like, niggas was, like, crying and dying every fucking week. I don't see none of that. Yeah, you don't see none of that. Yeah. It's not even, you don't, you don't hear about it. it. I mean, we probably hear about a little bit, but you know, it ain't, it ain't the same as actually witnessing it and losing somebody that was just right here. Yeah. But, yeah, that shit.

You don't know. When was your, what was the first time, you're saying, you lost somebody? How old was you? I mean, shit. To the streets are just lost somebody, period. I mean, probably just lost somebody, period, because that could lead a nigga to the streets. Seven. Six or seven. My uncle passed. He got killed in front of this kid. Damn.

How did that affect y'all? That's a family, though, as a whole. It affected me because that was the first time I ever lost somebody. That was the first time I seen my pops cry. And he was just out here in California with us. He was just in the middle of my first time meeting him. And he was out there fucking with us. The first time meet your uncle, you fuck with him.

He, flashy, a little fly nigga. younger than your dad so he's a little more younger too so after he went back home to Carolina or whatever that's when that shit happened so it kind of hit hard because I just met him and he just left damn yeah so that was that that was the first thing then a little later on in life around 16 oh 17 16 17 I lost my best friend Marcus how did that happen He got some niggas pulled up in the neighborhood. Caught him another nigga he was with slipping. He tried to fight him.

They popped them. And y'all was what? You still was young, 12, 13? No, I was 16, 17. That's when it really like. That's when it really is like, oh, shit. Because before then, it was like, we don't need no gun in the neighborhood.

What you got a gun? You can go to jail for no reason. Ain't nobody coming through here. Yeah. Nobody going to pull up. here ever at all in our head that's how we thought until then so after that it was like oh shit it should get it can it can get to your front door it should get real i mean because it affect me how it affected me when i was younger too like and like that age too like and then i probably say

probably like 21 22 i think one of my homies died and it just it fucked me up so much to where i was like you know what i don't even i don't even believe believing God right now. I'm gonna just go all the way. Fuck everybody. For sure, it was times like that. For sure, definitely. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Well, you just in the house and I just ain't, I'm tuned out, my mama talking. I can't hear, I can't hear shit. I'm just going outside and I'm just like. On autopilot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's moving. It's whatever happened.

What's the deal? You feel I'm? Like, you know, thinking about those times, like, do that. thinking like, you know, from where you at right now, dude, you think back like, damn, bro, like, I'm lucky I'm still at this month because I was going crazy. For sure. Whether it was that or jail or whatever, fuck else come with it.

For sure, it was definitely that. You know, when I said you were a badass kid, I always, like, one thing about badass kids, they always go to juvenile hall. Yeah, for sure. Like, I never went to juvenile hall, nigga. I wasn't that damn bad, nigga. I needed that. Yeah.

If I didn't go to juvenile hall, I feel like I probably would have had to learn all that shit after in county. You know, that's a different story. A little time, a little couple months you get in a juvenile hall. I'm saying charges as an adult, you're getting a year or more. Yeah. Especially if it's ongoing charges, ongoing the same shit. But that shit, it taught you structure? Or did you, did it make you better or did it make you worse?

It made me better for sure. It made me know how to move better. And just stay out the way. But you still was on bullshit, though. Still was on bullshit for sure. You know, that shit slow down, the older you get. Yeah. But as far as, like, high school and shit, like school.

High school, I was on bullshit trying to just be the nigger on the most bullshit. But did you ever think, like, you know, where rapping is going to be in my future? I mean, I ain't know, but I always said that. I'd all started rapping at a young age, five years. I mean, trying to rap FI is a So I always thought I'm gonna be an NBA player

or a rapper. FI. Grunt my whole life. Y'all niggas is cap, only. Everything in every time you're rapping. I got pictures, baby pictures, microphone. My grandma, she's Japanese.

She do a little karaoke shit. Yeah. I used to be in there rapping on the shit over Dr. Drake, instrumentals. All the Lino, you get the singles, and they got the song, and they got the instrumental. I mean, they're rapping.

I don't know what I was. saying probably just cussing shit bitch fuck you asshole whatever fuck this cussing but i was in there trying to rap and i was in there trying to be a rap i thought i was rapping i've been doing that shit since i was a little ass kid you said your grandma japanese that's that's 100% 100% so your daddy black yeah my dad black your dad black so you japanese right now I'm Japanese. This nigger Japanese, y'all. That's wild.

Hold on. I'm dropping the money. This nigga is good. Yeah, for sure. No. I heard niggins talking about that Asian dope, nigga. You Japanese, nigga.

For sure. Damn. Did your girl want to teach you how to, you know what I'm saying? You don't speak the language? Not at all? Yeah, she tried. But it skipped my mom.

So, you know, once it got to me, it's like, all right. How is Skip mom? She ain't, I don't know. Is she full? She's 50. Oh, she's 50, 50. My granddad, 100% black.

Oh. So they like black niggas. Yeah. They like black. My mom was like, she really more black than Asian. Like, you see her, she looks exactly like me type shit. That's crazy, bro. Like, I wouldn't want to know that shit.

You feel? You know what I'm saying? Nick of Japanese? I'll be out here. Everybody think I'm just extra high. Yeah. Oh, so that's why your eyes tight. Yeah.

Nah, nigga, you hires, your motherfucking. No, I'll be eye for show. I'll be high for show. Yeah, that ain't, that ain't no secret. But, you know what I'm saying? Rapping in Sacramento, you feel, you're doing your shit. Digger, when you start taking it serious? I mean, shit, I ain't start taking it serious until, like, 20-something,

something, 22, 23, maybe 20, but my first song I first recorded it was 15 yeah and then I had my little little buzz around the city my space getting a little 75,000 little views and shit that was a lot at the time for sure uh I had my little buzz and shit thought I was doing something but I wasn't making no money yeah so I felt like I don't call me no rapper like I'm embarrassed hey you rap now I was just fucking with that shit Because I didn't make no money, so I felt embarrassed. I felt like I should have made some money by then,

even though it was like you just started this shit. But I'm not thinking that. I'm thinking that you rap, you need to make money. Or you just some bum-ass niggins say you're a rapper. Yeah, you're just doing whatever. Exactly. So I end up stopping and then I end up fucking with it again. And then that's when I really started going serious.

Going serious. And then you run into Mazzi. What year did you run in a Mazzi? At the end of 2011. Oh, so you run into this nigga full force. Full force. It's going on both ends. You're with me, you've been to rap.

Rap, rap, rap. Nah, I mean, yeah. That too. Yeah, that too. Yeah. That too. Yeah, we all across the board this motherfucker. But yeah, that's crazy, nigga.

I mean, because. fucking with that nigga, meeting that nigga, you know what I'm saying? As far as y'all got, I mean, that's tight. You feel how it was it when you,

you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That shit was cool. I always used to say like before I met him, I used to be a fan of this shit. So I used to always like,

man, that nigga come together, man, we're gonna go crazy. So when we first came together, we went crazy, but a nigga fucked me up. I ain't, I know he, I know he hard,

but I'm just going in on my regular shit. He's like, okay, you're going crazy, whatever, he'd go in there. Really, if wait, really, he's sleep. I get out the booth, he's sleep. I'm like, oh, this nigga.

This nigga. He ain't taking it serious. Yeah, he, he, he, he, he's pushing or something. He's, he bullshin. I'm like, hey, Maas, it's on you. Bounce up, get up in there, go crazy. I'm like, damn. So you was taking too long.

You made my nigga go to sleep. Probably. Probably. Probably. She's like, this nigga taking too long to fucking burst. And he just was right, you know. Yeah. Probably.

A little bit of both. But he hop up in there. Did he get cracking? Go crazy. I'm like, damn. I should have said some different shit. Yeah. But from then on, I'm like, okay.

I got one. You know, this nigga in the studio, I got to come. He kept you on your toes. For sure. He made me, he sharpened me up. It made me better for sure. I had to get better. Can't go in there.

and all the homies like, oh, this shit go crazy, but when they get to your part, they're like, this shit cool. I hadn't had that problem, though, because when I came around, it was like, oh, this nigga. He's hard. He's hard. He tight.

Probably, you know, fucking with brother, but he tight versus other niggas that came around at the time with me. But he said he got to go head with you. Yeah, that's, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He said he got to go. That was after a while. Yeah.

But yeah, even then, it was like, okay, this nigga a little harder than what I'm normally on songs with. Let me turn up a little bit. And then for me, it was like the same shit. It's like, oh, shit, I'm on a song with a nigga that's going harder than me. Let me turn that up real quick. And it can't be harder every single song. Hey, it's mazie, mazie, mazie, mazie, mazie, mazie, mazie, mazie. I'm like, I got to go crazy real quick.

I mean, because, and he's, he got the pain in his voice, too. And then it's just like, both of y'all together, it's just like, it's ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? You know, motherfuckers be like, you know, God be doing shit. Like, I think that's one of the ones, you feel me, you put together, you feel me, you got to really stay together. You know what I'm saying? Just in my opinion, like, when I hear two motherfuckers on a track like that, I'm like, damn,

you feel me, like, you don't get that shit everywhere. You feel me? Like, that chemistry, you feel me? Like, you don't get that shit every day. You don't get that shit everywhere. Like, it's kind of like almost. like the Migo, you feel I'm like, I didn't know them

niggas apart, they all so hard. I didn't even, you know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't even really expect these niggas to break up because I'm like, I thought these things gonna be together forever, but like the chemistry like with shit like that like you gotta keep. Like that's hard as fuck.

Sure, no, you know, that's it forever. That's it regular. Yeah. That's ain't going nowhere. But you know what I'm saying? As my nigga skyrocketing and then you right here, you feel? Like, what, what keep you motivated to say?

You know what I'm saying? I got to keep going like and get my shit popping like that too. I mean, first and foremost, the bag. Yeah. Niggas see, for one, before you start getting your own, you see, you see your homie getting it, and you like, damn, like, I was, we just broke as fuck.

Yeah. And then you see, okay, this shit for real. You start doing it, you see your little numbers going, and you see all shit go to the level of the where you never thought it would be. That's where you make you really want to start going serious. It's like, okay, hold on. Let me stay in the studio all day. I don't know.

Fuck going to go pull up on the bitch. Let me stay up in here and do this. So it's kind of just like, damn, like, when y'all start getting money, because a distro kid and none of that shit, that shit wasn't out then. You know what I'm saying? Because, like, how the fuck was y'all niggas, you know what I'm saying? Get money on the independent level. At first, we wasn't a CD baby, but, you know, that was, for me,

$300. here and there little crumbs, nothing at all. But, shit. When I first got that, that shit,

motherfucker, I felt like gold. They got that. It was like, oh, 300. 300? I ain't never,

I'm a rapper now. I got paid. Yeah. I got a check. Yeah. 300 is crazy. Man, that shit's crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Like, especially, I ain't gonna lie. I tried to rap because, you know what I'm saying? I looked at my distro kid. That bitch said,

$125. I said, oh, shit. I said, I should keep going, huh? Like, nigga. So I can only imagine y'all shit. Y'all got dumb streams. Y'all niggas is doing it up on an independent level. Man, that shit is crazy.

Would you rather stay independent or would you rather, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I'm with whatever makes the most sense. Yeah. If it makes the most sense to stay independent, then that's what I'm on. If they come with some shit and make more sense to it's sign, I'm assigned to them, then whatever it is. make the most sense. Yeah, I mean, let's talk about Daveo, man.

My boy. Man, I like this nigga, man. That's my dog. Yeah. I really fuck with him, you know what I'm saying? Real genuine dude, man. He'd be hanging around, fucking around, man. Like, what has he done, you know what I'm saying, for your career?

That nigga did a lot. I was going to say everything, but I did damn everything. He did a lot. And I did, you know, I was sitting around. I was sitting around, chilling. Yeah. He told me, hey, pull up. Come back.

Let's work. And they do a project with a nigga. And I'm like, okay, I did the project. I'm done. He comes a little while later, like, hey, come on. This is the time began. Let's let, let's go. You got to do this.

It's another one. That other one that's already out. So he just made me, for one, he made me see that somebody actually believed to me. And then it made the niggas, this nigga just worked. Made a nigga, he motivated. the nigga to work. And the nigger, drop, do all this music, all this music, and don't have nothing to do with it.

And they're like, hey, let me, what you got right now. They play a few songs. Okay, I like this one. I like this one. Oh, this one hard. This one hard. Put another verse on this one, whatever, shit like that. And blah, all right, I got some other shit for you.

Put a verse on this. Put a verse on this. Fuck with this beat. You fuck with this. Shit like that. But, yeah, shit like that. I mean, I fuck. with niggas like that

to keep you motivated, keep you up, you know what I'm saying, keep you on your toes. You might slip. And it's music industry this shit, it'll keep you down.

Niggas be depressed out of nowhere. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Be like, fuck, I ain't where I want to be in this fucking shit.

You know what I mean? Like producers acting like holes, rappers acting like holes. Everybody just, you know what I'm saying? All type of shit. All type of shit going.

Sometimes you might get caught up looking on Instagram. I'm trying to compare yourself to other nigger's situation. Yeah, don't look at DJ Callet. Hell now. Now, get off that nigga shit. I'm like, fuck. You know what I'm saying?

It's got to be motivation at this point. This thing is going crazy. Like, nigga, but you need them type of niggas that that'll hold you up like that. You know what I'm saying? For sure. And fuck with you and all the whole little shit. You know, like, how much you paying you, my nigga? Like,

He better be getting my nigga the percentage. Oh, man. Man, that's my brother. That's my brother before anything else. Yeah, I mean, too, a motherfucker. Everybody eats. A lot of motherfuckers don't know that shit in this game. Like, everybody eat.

Take care of your people. I'm a team player, man. If people ain't noticed by now, I'm a team player. I'll take a pay cut if that's what makes sense. Whatever the fuck makes sense, that's what I'm on. I mean, what Mazi is down right now, but do you feel the pressure? Like, you know what I'm saying?

That little chip on your shoulder. Like, I got to keep this shit going for the homie. For sure, definitely, definitely. I mean, we did this before. Yeah. When you first went to jail, the first time, me and E. Mazzie, we did this shit. That's the same program, same show.

shit from the drop go crazy keep this shit lit till the nigger get home and it's gonna go up even more again when he get back you talk to him yeah talk to the niggins no that's good that's good that's good i mean because you gotta keep shit alive though i mean your homies you feel me he's like and that show a lot though for mazie too like nigga how he respect his homies nigga how he put niggas on you feel me niggas next to him if i'm down nigga he got it he can fuck with it Because if you go down and your homie can't do shit for you, you feel me, that mean you was never doing shit. You never shed light on motherfuckers.

You was never doing shit. So, I mean, like I said, because the industry would be as a wild-ass place, nigga. So that's much respect to that, nigga. You know what he was doing, like, and fucking with his homies and doing that shit. This shit is, like, really gay. And they're building that type of shit. Like, but, like, have you ever, do I'm saying? Like, how is the industry treating you, though?

you feel like the industry is just bullshit or do you try to keep that shit like with your homies you know what I'm saying it just you know what I'm saying you know saying a tight net square you know what I mean I don't I don't really have a lot of personal experiences with the industry like that yeah so I just see what I see from uh this looking out observing shit on my own but uh you know it's it's exactly where everybody say it's good for you but it's a lot of bullshit that come with it's like anything anything that's going to be a positive for you is going to come with some type of bullshit.

So it got a little, a couple of flaws to it, but shit. You let Daveo handle that shit. Yeah. Dave, you handle that shit, you know what I'm saying? Let me rap. You got any niggas that you wanted a verse from a nigga just kept your ass on, like, just seeing, like just looked at your shit, didn't respond?

Yeah, that shit happened. That shit happens. That's it happens for sure. And sometimes it might be busy or sometimes they just might not be fucking with you. But it for sure happens. But you don't keep niggas off scene because if a nigga give you a verse,

I mean, if a nigga asked you for a verse, you said you charge four. Has the price went up yet? No, right now, it's still four. It's still four? It's still four. How much can I? How much you're going to charge me?

Shit, if you charge you? Can I get a voice? I got a song right now. Let me see it. It's good. I mean, my nigga got it so... That's hilarious, bro. Like, my nigga said, I ain't turning down shit.

I'm like, that's like little boozy, that nigga, like, I'm taking, I'm getting all this money, though, but as you should, though. Sure, for sure. Sometimes I might not get the money if I feel like it's a play. Yeah.

Let's run it. But, you know, I'm like when niggas don't do the videos for niggas, you know, I mean? At least post my shit. At least it's $4,000. I'm going to post the video. Godly. But you can't spend me to post that shit all day every single day.

Yeah. I barely do that to my own shit. Daveo got to call me and blah, hey, you know, post that shit. Put the link on there. What's that shit about, Davo? Why, we got to keep... Why, my niggas got to keep telling these artists to post their own shit? Like, you niggas don't want the money?

Like, you think you don't want to... Y'all don't want to be successful? Niggas don't want to just keep posting the same shit over and over again. I feel like, nigga just giving you the same shit. Definitely when the lights start getting a little lower and lower each. time you post the same shit they like we seen that yeah i mean that could fuck with a nigga but there's some niggas that ain't seen that shit niggins that ain't seen for sure you what i'm saying sure that couple thousand the niggas didn't see it the last time now for sure

they've been promoting a video for the niggins a whole week straight and then nigga posts the song and they're like where song is that yeah this shit been out age five five videos man yeah yeah how you feel about like radio play and shit like that do you think that shit kind to affect your career, nigger, are you just kind of mainly stay just to your core fans and just YouTube? For me, I'm more of my core friends. I mean, radio play, if you get it, it can be a plus, but it's niggas don't get no radio play going crazy.

Yeah. So, I mean, it's like nowadays, radio playing what it used to be. But you can for sure get it. It for sure can boost your shit if you got the right shit going on and getting your plays. Yeah, because it's kind of like rare, but he's still kind of like why, you know what I'm saying, young boy doing this thing? They don't be fucking one.

Yeah, he on already. I ain't gonna hear him on radio. Nothing. But number one on YouTube, number one on this, number one stream, number one. I'm like, nigga, what? Nicky, how? This shit is crazy out here. But that's really, that's how I don't want to be, though, if I was fucking with this shit.

You know what I'm saying? But what keep you motivated in the studio, nigga? Because I heard, you know what I'm saying? You stop sipping lean. You know what I'm saying? Which is really good. You feel? me, but a lot of niggas kind of like use like some type of drug, you know what I'm saying

in a studio to keep them going? You know what made you stop sipping, like, being tired while I'm driving, falling asleep while I'm driving, motherfucking being on tour and we get to a city like motherfucking Wyoming or something and nobody got nothing and my stomach is hurting and I can't, I don't want to go on stage because I'm not, I'm feeling uncomfortable and feeling like, Like a dope fiend, that type of shit for sure is what the main reason was. So you was buying shit to make you fall asleep at the wheel. These niggins is crazy.

How much was this shit to make me fall asleep? It wasn't what it cost now. When I stopped, it was $75 a line. $75. That was a lot. That's still a lot. A line is this big, right? An ounce.

Oh, shit, damn there. Night wheel. No, it's a little cup, right? I'm going off the cup. That's a line. It's a little, yeah. Damn. Seventy-five out shit.

Now it's $200. To fall asleep at the wheel. That's wild. But how did it make you really feel, though? I mean, you become a little bit. How are you feeling good. Damn. It tastes.

It really is. But for me, at least, it's the taste. That's the thing. It'd be the taste more than everything. I mean, the high would be, whatever. But the taste is like, that's what it really is. It's all the taste.

I mean, in your rap career, you know what I'm saying? You've been doing it up. But you took a lot of losses. Naga, what person, you know what I'm saying, you will want here right now to see you, you know what I'm saying at your height? You know what I'm saying? Like, what person you would want really, really want here

to be like, nigga, we're doing this shit? Marcus and Tommy. Yeah. That's my little brother and my best friend. that's really the main two people well like what me know what you know what I'm saying how old were you that like 16 17 17 yeah 16 17 when the markets pass and then um on time you passed I don't know I was at the age I was probably like 20 21 22 that's crazy I mean but right now at your height do you feel like you still got one foot in one foot out as far as like

the street shit and the music shit? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then still doing that shit. I mean, I feel like y'all niggas is losing a lot of motherfuckers. So, you know, yeah, for sure. So I'm like, you know what I'm saying?

When is that? When is it going to click in your head to where you feel like, you feel like, you know, know what i don't need to be doing this shit no more you feel me like it should be just strictly music i mean should have been clicked in the nigger head but it don't be that easy it don't be that easy just be like i'm i'm just so all rap because it don't matter what you can do that you can be all rap but everything you had going on before you come all rap it's still there it's not going to So you can be all rap all you want to be, but you still don't have the same problems that you had that you've been having. I mean, yeah, if you take your ass on the block.

I mean, but- Not because it don't really happen on the block. It happened anywhere. That can happen out of show. It can happen at a meet and greet. You can happen out of motherfucking anything, anywhere. Yeah. I mean, but what if you bring your ass out here?

you know what I'm saying and you're chilling you with Dave O you know what I'm saying Come chill with my nigga because you know it's getting a little crazy out here I mean that for sure

can preserve you and make you last a lot longer but again that shit can happen in L you know for sure in L.A. it can happen for sure and again this ain't too far from home so there don't got to be no L.A.

niggas. I can run in the time some sack niggas out here. And it's Sacramento for the moment. But though, it's still, though, at your point in your career, though, you know, you're doing your shit right now, do you feel like beef in Sacramento

is kind of like die down for you? Or it's kind of like, you know, you kind of like, man, I ain't really going to say nothing. I ain't going to fuck with it. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to do none of that shit. It's like a little bit of both,

a little bit of both because it's like, I'm older. I'm older. Yeah. So it's like, know like you know when you older it's like certain niggas is worried about you the young niggas they see you and they they they'll get it popping for show but at the same time they're like that's that's that's really rude man they think you they're more worried about what you got

type shit too at the same time so it's like I don't know it's just it's a look it ain't slowed it slowed down but then it's like it can still happen anytime anywhere I mean yeah because I'm probably one of them niggas you know that I'll see, like, ooh, that's silly root. Only because it's fucking swamp stories. It's all the whole little shit. And it's like, you got the white man there, raid no 18 videos, you feel me?

Like, and I hear Sally Roo going crazy. You know what I mean? Like, but how is that shit now, though? Because it's like, I thought only Chicago niggas was, you know what I'm saying? Dissin'n niggas. Cause and putting dead homies in the, you know what I'm saying? and all that. That's wild.

I ain't doing all that. Yeah, like... I don't say nobody's names and I ain't doing all that. How you feel about these niggins that, you know, like rappers and just in general that do that type of shit? You feel me?

I mean, shit, I mean, it would be an understanding to an extent. But a nigga saying, fuck your people. It's only, it's only normal for a nigga to do it back. Yeah. Fuck your people.

So it's like, I mean, to an extent, be understanding. but I'm not really with all the names and all the extras. Yeah, because I feel like, you know, that shit kind of affect the nigga on a different level. Like I said, like, when my homie died, I really said that.

My mom was talking, I'm like, what the God? Like, she's crazy. It couldn't be because the nigga just, he shouldn't be gone right now. You know what I mean? So if a motherfucker was doing that, you know what I'm saying? Or rapping her niggins. names and doing all of that and showing up the niggas great sights and all that like that's on

a whole other level of rap like that's not even rap yeah that's cloud and internet that's cloud chasing yeah that's internet that's internet that's and they're feeling like uh me being known is as better as worth dying for or even going to jail for that's all that be that's what them type of niggas be on how you feel about the niggas that's like basically cloud chasing in the rap game kind of fucking shit up because you still got to have some type of artistry with this shit fuck them they ain't the way they ain't in the way man yeah i don't know i ain't really i don't fuck with the cloud shit just i'm just i'm a nigger just be yourself man all right i got one question for you um what is your relationship

with sally ru. That's my nigger. I know. How do you feel about yourself doing the whole little shit? You know what I'm saying? Out here. That's your rap name, nigga. I'm out here and I'm preaching this shit to these kids.

You know what I'm saying? I'm doing this shit. Like, do you feel like, nigga, you doing the right shit, nigga? For sure. Yeah. I mean, you know, a nigger is going to have some flaws to them. But at the same time, ain't nobody perfect. And they're trying to better itself as he grow.

But for sure, for the most part, yeah, I feel like I'm doing something good. The shit I say and the shit I do. And the examples I said, sure. Yeah, that's called, you know what I'm saying? Because I'll be feeling like, you know, sometimes they used to try to put, like, make a nigga feel like he was a character. And I'm like, man, I'm just me. I got to be me in this shit.

Like, if I ain't my true self, this shit ain't going to work. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is with me. It ain't going to work, bro. I'm me. I'm just regular. I ain't trying to be hurt. I ain't trying to be seen, all the extra.

I'm just trying to do what I got to do to keep my shit going on. I ain't worry about all the extra shit. Shoot a gang, Connie. Like, what's up? What's up with, bro? How do you feel, you know what I'm saying, about bruh, doing this thing? thing, he diss and mozzi. But like, do you still keep that relationship cool?

Like, because I see you still following him and you still do his thing. Are you trying to kind of keep it on the level ground and have peace there or what? You know, when you got, you're a homie and you got two brothers. Yeah. At their house and they start fighting. Best thing with the best thing for you to do, just let them do their shit and chill out. You don't get in the way. Just chill out and just let them do their shit.

shit I ain't got nothing that ain't my business I'm from the east I'm from east side Sacramento Lincoln Village so they you know whatever they got going on I ain't I ain't the one to speak on it ain't my business I like that I mean because I mean when two brothers is fighting or two homies is fighting and niggas is doing anything you really definitely got a backup to a certain extent you know what I'm saying and the people don't understand some fans don't understand but you especially if you got like a super personal relationship with niggas, you feel me,

like motherfuckers really don't be, don't be knowing, you feel me? Like, and then you had a, you know, you got the white man narrating. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, niggas want to know, you feel me? Yeah, niggas want to know about the whole little shit. I mean,

you ever look at the motherfucking documentary? Like, this nigger don't know what the fuck he's talking about, but you kind of, sure. And it'd be, yeah, It'd be like, man.

Yeah. You don't know what you're talking about, man. It's more frustrating than anything. Yeah, let's talk about the music, man. Yeah. What we got going on, man? What you got coming up, man? What's you working on?

I got the album going to drop on the 27th. Money, family respect. I'm going to drop that motherfucker. That shit is going to go crazy. I got a couple features on there. A couple niggas on there. I'm fucking with it. I got Millie's on there

Boston I got a of course Mazzie E-Mazi I got a little blood Goofy A little blood Little blood I fuck with a little blood

He came in this motherfucker too Like Nigger You better go get some niggas for I seen that I was like yeah That nigga He'd always be on his

He'd be following ticket That's my nigga And I had some things You know what I'm saying I've been I've been trying to fuck with it ever since you feel me my little Cambodian

niggas up here shout out you know what I'm saying they were doing their thing yeah yeah you feel me like I've been trying to you know I've been trying to do my thing but yeah

the music you feel me like that you feel like you feel like you got to drop more like more than ever are you still kind of like you know like on that TD

way like that kid you way it's time to drop more than ever yeah I got it definitely bro locked then locked up then it got dropped more

never go crazy. That was the formula we came with in the beginning, so it's something right. Yeah, because it's like, but how do you feel about the, you know, quantity over, quality over quantity, you know what I'm saying? I mean, shit. These days, that shit, quality, even when it's quality, it don't last forever. They're ready for new shit as soon as you drop. They're like, okay, I just heard you dropped.

You just dropped last night when the next shit come in. Yeah, I need two more. Yeah. You need at least five to ride for a week. Yeah, you got to have some shit for them. You got to make them like, okay, chill out. Yeah. I mean, is it, dude, do that fuck up a nigga,

work that thing? Like, a nigga work that. They got to be like 100 going crazy. Like, I got shit put up. I got a lot of shit put up. So, I can really drop all year without recording it, really. But, you know, then. Nick, you can drop all year without recording.

Yeah, but it ain't going to be. The quality ain't going to. be up to where I really wanted. It ain't going to be like to have my shit going to be going to see. He's running out. Yeah. He gets to the bottom of the list.

Yeah. Lists seem a little crazy. For sure. I always ask rappers, I mean, but damn, but I don't know. Always, you niggas up, nor if I'd be like, fuck. Like, what's y'all favorite rapper?

Like, what's the music? Y'all banging. I mean, my favorite rappers and even the niggas. I'm banging really right now. My favorite rappers is Jay Cole and Jay Lucas. Oh, you tight. Yeah, so.

That's a sick-ass answer. I never thought you would say no shit like that. Yeah, nobody ever thinks it's going to be. They don't think I'm going to be on some E40 or just like keeping North Carolina. Yeah, MacDray. But that's my shit. That's what I fuck. My favorite rappers.

Yeah, nobody, I wouldn't have thought that. You know what I'm saying? I want to thought your ass was Japanese either. that's crazy what's your well like what niggas you banging from Los Angeles though oh man

I'd be fucking like a lot of niggas out here stupid young savvy third shit it's on the spot now it's gonna be hard to think about them as soon as I live I'm like damn I should have said that

that nigga name uh man well at least they got a shout out though shout out my name savvy third you know what I'm saying stupid young they're doing their thing I be fucking on a lot of niggas out of

I'm for sure. I ain't gonna lie. The one nigga, Zoe Osama. Yeah, Osama. Been on him lately underrated,

he's been going crazy. That shit hard. That should be having a city going, though. Yeah, I've been seeing them. That's my fucking been going up.

That should be having a city going. What got the city going in sack? Hell game, Mazzie. Anything that come under that? Oh, everything. M.

Yeah. Hey, I'll be doing some lot of politics, though, with Sack. but if you hit the club, even like, like, damn, like,

what, what is they playing? Because I even know your, the enemy's probably like, fuck, they're playing this shit. Like, in the club,

they're not, they're not playing none of that shit. They're playing, the mainstream shit. Oh, okay. And if anything, they're going to play

some bass shit, some other shit. But again, I don't go to the club, so I can't even tell you to be all the way on point like that. But my experience is

when I'm at, certain shit, they're not playing the local shit. Basically, really for those reasons, though. You know, if you know, you're not a club, nigger. Not at all. Not at all.

I did all that as a young nigga. Is it because the niggas, like, kind of paranoid, or it's kind of like... Not even really that. Because, shit, he being that motherfucker 50 deep. Can't really do shit, really. Everybody, everybody mad

and that motherfucker can be 50 deep. No, not really. That's when you really can have fun because you got the mad niggas you already got some niggas mad watching and looking. That's what they were there for. Some niggas only come just for

To be mad. Yeah, to be mad, not really be mad because they're having fun, but just to make sure you know, everything is good. It's right. Damn, yeah. I mean, I used to be in that motherfucker club shit too.

I don't fuck with the club no more either. Like, nigga, that shit is out. And like, how are you with the family shit? Because I, you said, you like, I ain't get married, nigga. That's fuck all of that shit. I ain't doing that shit, nigga.

Yeah, I ain't really into that. You ain't into the family shit? I'm into the family shit for sure, but I ain't into the marriage and all that. You ain't trying to get married, my, like. I'm not really worried about that. Nah. That's more like a distraction that seemed like.

Yeah, I don't fuck with that shit either, though. Like, no, no, my bitch want to get married, though, but I think it's more so for bitches. Yeah, that's for sure. The party. Yeah, that's all that is. Hey, for the dress and the whole shit. We can do that every day without the marriage.

Yeah, like, I get married for that. Who made that paperwork shit up, blow? I don't know. That shit. That shit weird, I'm all that is. Yeah, that's all that is. Yeah, I'm saying. We can stay in a relationship and do that shit, you know what I'm saying?

But, yeah, man, I'll fuck with you, man. I'm glad you here, man. I appreciate me. I don't fuck with you, my nigga. Yeah, man, you feel me? Like, I got a real one in this motherfucker, you feel me? We had Mazzie on. the shit, you feel

me, but we had him on. You gotta come to our live show. Yeah, see, I came on that motherfucker and I was letting bro do his thing. Y'all asked me a few questions and he was like, what you? Like, basically like, what's said with you?

Like, you're just sitting here. I'm really, I was sitting there. I was waiting for, I was waiting for Dono to come back. I was just feeling. Vigga. I'm rolling up. Like, really letting bro do his thing. It's for him.

I'm just up here fucking with him. Nah, nigga, this is for all of us. Yeah, but not. At that day, I'm like, this bro interview. I'm just coming. for support. I'm just up there.

Y'all talk to me. I'm gonna fuck with you, but... And then y'all was talking about some shit I wasn't up on at the time. Y'all was talking about the Kanye documentary.

I didn't get to see it at the time. So I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna... You up on that shit now, though? I've seen it. I for sure seen it. That shit was crazy. That was crazy.

For sure. Made me want to run around with cameras forever. For real. That shit was hard. Oh, God and heaven. At one point, a nigga drop of tears.

It's all about his mama. For sure. It's all about moms. You feel me? and pops and all of that shit count, nigger, I don't gotta do. All of that shit count, man. Moms and pops stealing your life, though, right?

Sure. That's tight. That's tight, that's tight. You know what I'm saying? But thank you for coming, though, man. I appreciate you. Yeah, man, you feel me? Again, you know what I'm saying?

Let everybody know, you know, what's coming out. You feel what to catch you and what to do? January 27th, man, where we at? Any camera. Man, January 27th, man, money, family respect. Make sure you go tap in. Fuck with me on that motherfucker.

I'm going crazy. I got a few features on that motherfucker going crazy. Yeah. My nigga, you feel me? And don't worry about nothing, you know what I'm saying? Make sure you catch me if I'm not here on Wednesday live at 6 o'clock. You feel me? You catch me back on fake, you know what I'm saying?

Monday and Friday at 4, you feel? You got to come fuck with me on there too. I pull up for sure. Yeah, don't worry about nothing. I'm saying. Pull up. I be on all that shit. I'd be on all that shit.

Are you fucking with me? I'll be on all that shit, man. I'd be on all that's tight. My shit, stay on no jumper. Yeah, community, man All that shit Shout out Fing, community

Shout out my boy AD and pun, yeah We're going up That nigger smack brought some energy to that shit Yeah Smack That thing is smack

Yeah, I gotta introduce you to smack Man, you know smack man You know smack? No smack Y'all niggas He really from this nigga really from Oakland And he's up north We're to Oakland

He all that shit I didn't know that. Yeah, I fuck with Smack. Smack, know me. I know Smack. Smack her real one, because smack the year and, I mean. Yeah. Yeah, the whole little shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, stop sign. Bitch, yeah, to me. But look. That was my nigga, Sally Roo, man. We up out of here. Don't worry about nothing.

Yeah, we go. Oh, boy.