No Jumper - Certified Trapper on Gun Charges, Blowing Up off Hood Vlogs, Kia Boys & More
Episode Date: March 22, 2023Certified Trapper talks about Tommy G, signing a deal, Kia Boys, rappers copying me, and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open....spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world.
I'm here with my boy, Almighty Suspect,
and we're having a conversation
with the one and only certified trapper.
How you feeling it, A bro?
Feeling good.
Yeah, that's good news.
We need you to snap some energy into it, though.
You want to snap into a Slim Jim?
Hell yeah, with that.
I don't think we really got it, but...
How you know I like Slim James?
I was honest as a guess.
I didn't think anybody like Slim Jim's.
I ain't going to lie.
The spicy one?
To Tabasco?
That's so good.
Come on.
Did we just become best friends?
The Tabasas don't know.
That's a rare gym.
The Tabasco one?
Isn't there one with like a cheese stick inside of it?
That sound nasty.
No?
I can't.
I'm not with the cheese stick.
What about some combos?
Nah, bro.
We don't need the cheese stick.
Tabasco sling.
The combos, it's like pretzel with like cheese stuff in there.
I don't know you're talking about.
Come with the little pretzel garving and the cheese at the other end.
But I feel like they don't even have that at 711 anymore.
It's like not popular enough anymore.
This is a fat.
I think it's for like kids now, bro.
I don't know about the cheese steak.
What should be getting when you're going 7-Eleven?
I had got some fruit last night.
Really?
You got 7-11 fruit?
Yeah.
What was it?
The apple, banana?
Some grapes.
Some grapes.
Some hot fries.
Oh, yeah.
The other side of the spectrum.
Grapes and the hot fries.
You got to be healthy, though, too.
That's right.
You got to get something salty and something sweet.
I get like a Snickers bar and a bag of cheese.
I don't know how I feel about that one.
that guy some cheeses too.
Cheese's going to line, bro.
Box of cheeses in the house go like this.
Once you bust them open, it's a rat.
Papa's a...
I'll eat that whole thing.
You're right.
Oh, yeah, you're going to eat everything.
Back in the day, that was a real problem.
I would do a fucking gain like 10 pounds.
Yeah, eat everything, bro.
That's why I had to quit drinking juice, bro.
It was gaining weight.
No cap.
It makes you eat crazy, bro.
Yeah.
But, okay, so Milwaukee.
Let's talk about it.
In the house.
Teap up on the ass.
Yeah.
Can you tell us a little bit about what it was like coming up out there besides the supermarket or the 7-Eleven?
It's hard out there for it.
It's like greeting hard.
It's hard.
It's hard out of here for me.
And, too.
For sure.
I mean, I've seen Tommy G's vlog that he did with you out there.
That's how I found him too.
Oh, really?
That's he found him?
The first, first time I've seen him.
I think it was
he brought you
to the beekeeper
and you had got
stung out of being
he ran in the circles
the whole time
as Tommy G over there
they went to meet
a beekeeper bro
I didn't see that
I saw him
pulling up on your block
and you were just
hanging out with hell of guns
nah he beat with him
like a lot
oh so you did more videos
after that
yeah I did some more shit
with him
we got some more shit
coming to
shout to Tommy G
was that your first time
ever encountering
like bees
in such numbers
that's the first time
I got stunned
yeah
that's hurt
gang
I got stunned
And then it was like when we left, it was a bee in my shirt.
So it came with you?
Yeah.
It was stinging you the whole time type of shit?
No, it ain't stinging me no more, but it wasn't in my job.
Man, that's crazy.
He was running from the bee.
It was crazy.
Wow, that's crazy.
They just go 30 miles per hour.
Yeah.
I'm running it.
I was not getting away from them.
I've got some serious B memories as a kid.
My mom still makes fun of what I acted like when I was like five years old when I first got
sung by a B.
I only got stoned once.
It was like the summer in the pool, stung me,
right here on my finger.
I tried to swat it.
That was terrible.
If I got something about it be like right now,
I don't even think it would be that big a deal,
but when you're a kid, it seems insane.
When you were gonna die.
Yeah.
No cap.
But he was gonna die too.
Because it was a lot, bro.
You was like running from a hive.
It was nuts.
That was on my hud.
That was running fast as a bit.
Them o'-hast was not going nowhere.
You ever seen a cartoon where I'm gonna have
a whole bees nest land on his head?
I wonder if that's ever really happened anymore?
I'm sure.
I got chased by a hive before, middle of the street.
But did it land on your head?
Nah, but I don't know what I did, but I was just walking down the street from school one day, and I heard him.
Like, it was like a whole cloud of them.
I didn't know it was, I thought it was maybe like some, some gnats or something.
I got close, and it was bees, and they chased us for some blocks.
It's crazy.
How fast you're going if you can't run faster than 30 miles per hour.
It's not.
Yeah, I don't think anyone can run that fast.
But, okay, so what was your childhood like?
Like, what, do you have your mom and your dad around?
Yeah, I had my mom and my dad around.
I was just like, I got kicked out when I was 13, so it was like.
Where'd you go?
I went to stay with my grandma.
What did you get kicked out for?
I had, I had like four in the basement and shit,
but I was already on the urge getting kicked out and shit.
When I was like 13, I had like four in the basement.
Like Angie Tate.
She was just like, you tripping.
And then I had to leave.
So was they just like coming over, chilling?
They're like, you was fin of getting cracking?
I was feeling.
I was definitely going to do something.
So she fucked that out.
You were about to fuck all four of them or maybe like one?
You was by yourself?
Yeah.
Oh, you had it bus?
And it was just you?
Four gherbs?
Yeah.
Oh, he was going crazy.
And she's seeing him come in and shit.
She was like, you know what they miss late?
You just snuck him in with her in there?
She was, I don't know where she was at,
but I guess she's seen him come in.
Damn.
Damn, the desire for pussy is so strong that you'll really be trying anything.
Having them over, even when you know there's like a pretty good chance.
Your parents could be coming home?
I was like 12, 13.
Damn, so you got kicked out for that.
And then you go to live with your grandma, and is she letting you have bitches over?
Yeah, like, I was getting cold with bitches with her and shit.
But she's just like, that was my grandma.
So she, like, she wouldn't understand.
But I just never did, like, stolen cars and shit.
I was just, like, really, like, doing my.
my music most of the time and shit the stealing cars is like the thing where you're from i'm just for
to say has that always been a big thing in milwaukee yeah it's either like you steal cars or you
don't like i was just buying cars and shit i just buy buy my car the niggas if you steal cars it's like a
sport you know how like you sell dope you steal cars it's like more and more places that you hear that
though because jbo was just saying that exact same thing Tommy g when he did the st louis vlog that's where
they were talking about the Kia Boys and shit.
Not, Keyer Boys is Milwaukee.
Okay, but them St. Louis dudes are all talking about the same thing and shit.
It's like a real thing now.
I don't remember motherfuckers talking about that much when I was a kid.
They used to always still cars.
But once they found out how to do the kids,
then that shit just turned their way more up.
Right.
Damn, so you never did it?
I got in a couple, but I never like stole shit.
Okay.
I feel that.
How do you do it?
With the little kid shit?
Yeah.
You better type it on YouTube.
Where, bro.
Put a little USB in there.
You put the charger in it.
You dismantle the thing?
Put the charger in it and turns the car.
You ever seen this in person?
Yeah, yeah.
I seen that shit before, like,
everybody caught on to that shit and shit.
Motherfuckers, I've seen that shit.
Like, motherfucker put their charger in there
and turn that bitch right on.
Damn, but they say you make music
for the kid boys.
Yeah.
You think that's true?
For some reason, it just sounds so good
fucking with them.
And then they just fucking the car.
curve. Like, that's all they want to do is drive the car crazy as hell. Right.
And then it's like the music sounds so good with the keyboard. It's just like the dancing
shit. Like, it kind of bring it together. And like, yeah, I was just like hearing motherfuckers
dying and shit. Like, motherfuckers was coming on my shit. Like, bro, die.
Listen to this shit. That's like fucking crazy. That's crazy.
That's crazy. And he's crashing a car listening to my shit.
I mean, your music does kind of sound like I could steal a car and die listening to it.
Like, it just sounds like some real reckless shit.
I'm not going to lie.
You on my playlist, bro.
For sure, for sure.
I found out of the bottom because you hit me with that.
Lil.
Lil.
I'm censoring it myself.
Yeah.
But you got to, it says Ninja on YouTube.
That's my shit.
You had to change it, like, to make money off YouTube or?
What, Lil Ninja?
Yeah.
I just knew I didn't want to put a nigga on here, so I was just like.
Smart.
I just knew I couldn't put that.
I don't be trying to put the customers in there
because I already know it's like I heard you know it was going to go viral
no
but it was like
no I didn't know
but it went viral before I like
I actually got to release it because I did a video
like it was my first video when I got home
and shit
I posted it how long were you locked up
80 days
something like that
what was that for?
I had some cassill of Carrie misdement
and shit
And then, yeah, I got revocated for that Tommy G video.
Wait, wait, wait, what happened in the video that you got in trouble for?
The blowers?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I had that shit.
And then it was like, you did this video before, I mean, while you on probation and shit, I was on probation.
That's interesting because I noticed that, like, the guns that you're holding were blurred out and that a lot of the other guns weren't blurred out.
Is that why?
No, it was just, like, the type of gun I had.
Okay, with the big fucking drum on it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would imagine that that could be in a weird category, legally or whatever.
That's a fact.
But, okay, so when do you start making music?
I started making music a long as time ago, like, 2011 and shit.
I made my YouTube 2012 in my Twitter and shit.
But, like, I went to school for audio engineering, so that's when shit, like, kind of started taking off and shit.
It was a college work?
Hell, yeah.
Hmm.
Small man.
Would you always recording yourself and doing your own videos or you went to school first and then figured it out?
Yeah, like, I used to already know, like, I needed to do my own shit.
But, like, once I went to school to learn to use the software and shit, then it was just up from there.
And then I bought a fucking camera and shit.
And then, like, it was kind of hard getting people to record my shit.
So I started doing the videos, the selfie videos.
I said, I ain't going to lie, but the first time I seen it.
I die laugh.
I'm like, this nigga is created.
He then recorded the song.
He said, do you make the beat too?
Yeah, make the beats.
He made the beats.
He recorded itself all in one room.
Right.
All in his room or the kitchen.
Facts.
Impressive.
The labels love that shit.
I know you signed.
But the labels love that when you could do all that shit, right?
Because then they don't have to worry about getting a million different people to sign off on a song.
Yeah, definitely that.
Right.
That's exactly why they like that shit.
When you started rapping, did you, uh,
like have like Detroit influences or did you have like Milwaukee influences like who
influenced you to start rapping it was like I don't know my sound just like it'd be it's
like brand new so I needed beats I couldn't get no beats I couldn't use like YouTube
beats no more that's why I went to school to like learn how to use the software and shit
and then I did like two years like two years doing that shit and then
It was just up
From near
How'd you like
Discover your sound though
Did your music sound more normal
At some point
It didn't
It's always been out there
It's like
No it sounded weird
It's the bitch at first
And then it's like
I kept going with it
It's just the beats
The beats and shit
Right
Who'd you listening to
Before you started rapping
For like growing up
Who was listening to?
I used to listen
Like Chief Keefe
Chief Keefe and shit
Like when I was young
Like 9-10
I used to listen
The Soldier Boy
and shit like that.
It would be
a fucking,
um, future
band gang and shit.
I used to listen to a lot of motherfuck
not too many people
but like now I just
listen to myself
like in the car and shit
I play a little bit of Babytron future
for show
in that bitch
how do you and Babytron connect?
Yeah,
hit me
yeah,
hit me up on Instagram and shit
because like
this was before he was lit, right?
Well,
he was like semi-lit
but you first heard of him
like many years ago, right?
A couple years ago?
No, no.
He just met him a couple months ago.
He already long hair glasses trod.
Oh, okay.
Mm-hmm.
So, do you feel like Detroit is a big influence on Milwaukee?
Hell yeah.
That's all Milwaukee used to really, like, really listen to before, like, Detroit had all the more younger rappers and shit.
Like, what I fucking used to really, really do listen to Detroit for sure?
And then, like, Detroit, dude got to live.
a bit more connection with Milwaukee too, like other artists and shit.
Definitely.
When did you get the name?
I want to say 2021.
Okay.
Which was going by before that?
It was like, I had fucking, like, when I was doing SoundCloud, I was popping on SoundCloud
and shit, I was doing, like, my shit was a lot of guap.
And then I had it to CTN number one.
Because that was, like, certified trap nigga, number one.
And then I was just like, fucking, let me go certified trap.
because it was kind of weird.
Like shit.
That shit.
So it was all just something you came up with.
It wasn't like somebody else's idea?
That's what's up.
You got a lot of punch bars.
Was the scamming a part of your life at one point?
Scaming?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I know a couple of niggas out.
They got plenty of money doing that shit.
I never had got no stimulus, none of that shit.
I wish like I could have got like a PEP or some shit.
I would have been fucking out.
doing plenty shit.
Right, yeah, definitely.
Is Milwaukee like a, do you all got like blood,
crips or like, what's the games?
Because I know the whole Milwaukee thing,
like right now, everybody's saying like On the G,
like, can you explain that?
The owner G.
Where that's from?
It's like, it's GD's.
It's like some GDs originated from there,
GD's, vice lords.
That's really it.
GD.'s, vice lords,
and then motherfuckers be like streets.
Like, that's really what motherfuckers like,
like size of town and shit.
Can you explain the lows?
The low end?
That's like where.
I want to say that's like where I'm from,
but that's like I don't know like
10th in capital and down or something like that.
But that's like the east side of Milwaukee?
It's not because we don't really call it that.
We just say the east,
but I guess the lows,
I don't know.
I don't know what them nays really.
I don't know what the fuck that is.
I swear to God.
I just be.
I don't really know.
But that's some Milwaukee shit.
Like they say like the low end, the lows, you feel
me, on the east.
That's the lower numbers.
So the lower numbers of the streets
is why they call it the low end.
Yeah.
When did you, like, actually first start
to feel like the music was hitting?
Like, what did it take?
It just started to go up on YouTube.
It was just like the little first couple
hits and shit.
Like, I made this,
I made a couple of songs
and then motherfuckers did a number.
So after I seen that shit,
it was just like,
keep using my beats and shit,
using my son, making new sounds.
And then I got to a point
where I was dropping like five,
10 videos a day.
And then, like, that's when I started.
I really was doing that shit
for the money and shit
because when I got monetized,
I was just like going crazy.
Five videos a day.
That's insane.
Music videos, though.
But, like, how much work can you really put in
doing five a day?
Like, they all kind of look the same,
I'm assuming?
I was doing all this.
I could still do this shit.
I was doing all the songs and then just record that shit all together.
This is facts.
And, nigga, it'll be five different videos.
Who had the same outfit on it?
You can tell he just did him all in the exact same day.
Now, but that's kind of like your like appeal.
Like, what was some of your first reactions when you first start doing that?
Like in your room, some of the videos.
What was the first, some of the comments or like, your boys?
Like, how was everybody reacting to it?
It was just like, this niggas dropped 10.
video this niggins job four videos in the hour or some shit like that like that's what they
keep saying like keep going motherfuckers like that shit though because it's really for people to
listen to so it's like people just listen to that it's like the guy visualizer on fucking
youtube now you know they like put up the songs it's not a video but it's like something
moving around like oh no but uh yeah like it's pretty crazy because i know like when you
when you showed me him,
uh,
you know,
I was like,
this is,
this is dope,
but I didn't,
I didn't necessarily expect,
like,
the dude who signed him is a real,
I won't even say who,
but he's a real legend in the music industry.
And he hit me up to organize this interview.
And I was like,
oh shit,
you fucking were certified trapper?
And he's like,
yes,
we believe in him.
I was like,
damn, bro,
that's crazy.
It's new.
It's different.
He'd do everything itself.
And if you paying attention to the Milwaukee scene,
bro,
I don't know if this scene was around
before you,
but since you've been
around, it's been a lot of people
copying that shit or just,
nigga, how you do your shit, what you was saying
in your shit, like it seemed like
you damn there started a wave. Like, do you think
you started it or was it around already? Or was it
you? It's some different sounds that's
coming from Milwaukee. It's
like, I originated my
sound, so like, I ain't gonna be
like, oh, that's my shit, but
shit, like,
definitely people who is copying my shit.
It's a fact. And then they're copying my beats
and shit, but it's like, I'm gonna get better
better so they ain't gonna be able to always keep doing that shit for sure do you think that being
in those Tommy G videos and shit actually got you fans and made people check out your music
yeah like y'all you i did y'all know me from Tommy G video and like i think Jeff's seen me from
Tommy G video and shit but because like he believed in me too like through this shit like well
this shit is crazy because like before motherfuckers was even really looking at me and shit
But I was like getting high
attention and shit
But he was just like
It is crazy how you make your obese
And do all this shit out of here
And shit like that
You crazy
And then I pulled it up on him one day
Like I end up seeing him
Before even try to talk to fuck with me and shit
Like I stopped the car and shit
And I had like five guns in the car and shit
I'm like what's up Tommy G?
Yeah he said that you scared the shit out of him
Why he has so many guns
Five is a lot
That's how we do
That's how we're out there
five visible too
like he saw them right away it's not like
you didn't have to pull them out they were just out
but so Milwaukee's like that
like it's just not a big deal for people that have a hell of guns on
I mean shit
it's probably not
I don't know if everybody moved like that
but shit like
it's not like here
he said misdemeanor gun case
that's not here you're getting a felony
the stuff I've seen in those vlogs
of him standing in the alley with all his
homies and every single one of them
got two guns on them i've never seen anything like that in l.a i mean i'm sure there are people
with it like that in l.a but they're not filming vlogs real that's right we this is like
1980s early 2000s at the earliest but it's like now we can't do that no more type shit
it is it is crazy out there though in Milwaukee always been a war zone like that is always it's like
some car shit though like you would be driving in the car in that shit that's why that's why
I'm gonna fuck around like that though.
Wait, somebody will shoot you while you're driving
most likely?
Yeah, you're most likely have to do a,
do a shootout like in the car.
Like, that's not smart, but it's like,
that's how Nick is doing it.
So you gotta be careful,
fuck around in their cars and shit.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Especially them keys.
That's definitely a fact.
But like, I don't know,
like, how many,
are you able to say how many guns you own?
No guns.
Right now, I don't owe no guns.
Smart answer.
So if you get caught up and you end up being on probation or whatever, is over for that?
Over for the gun shit?
Yeah.
Like, hopefully, like, I'm going through some shit right now, so hopefully I'm going to be
able to still carry.
So the case that you got out, not over yet, from the 80 days?
I got out on some shit and some shit just happened like a couple days ago.
Like, last week.
And then, like, I got pending charges.
but I'm thinking like my lawyer
gonna get that shit to the point is like
I'm not charged.
I'm not charged of shit right now
but it's like I got pending charges.
Right.
Yeah.
So how long you've been signed?
I signed three months.
I'm going to say three, four months.
It's been four months.
Do you feel the difference yet?
Or like what's difference from before
from how you move in or recording
or even your videos like
what's the difference from before you assigned to now,
if any?
The difference is like
how I get paid and shit
it's different from like how I was before
the way I get paid and shit
and my work,
my work ethic like
working all fucking,
all fucking week all day
and shit like all work
and then like now I got a team and shit
so it's like kind of
it's kind of different
but shit gonna keep changing this shit though
like we're looking forward to like doing bigger shit
is it like having a team and shit
is it less work on
or is more work because they're doing a bunch of the work right yeah they didn't it's like everybody like
it's kind of equal it's like everybody just like we definitely got to keep the conversation like how we
conversation right now and shit like that's the that's really the work and shit now that you're signed
though like could you imagine your music sounding like being more professionally recorded because it's it's
kind of like that's the charm of it is that it's recorded in I don't want to say like a shitty way but
it's like it sounds super wrong.
Like, could you imagine yourself doing some shit that sounds like fucking future in the future, like all clean and polished?
I can't wait to hear some shit like that.
I know that's going to be really different.
It's just like, I make the beats and shit, so my beats got to get better.
And the way I mix the beat and shit, like, I can always get an engineer and have them mix my vocals and shit.
It's just like, if the beat sound like childish stuff, that's what a lot of people were saying, like, this nigga making Mario Kart beat.
What program you use?
I use Logic.
You're Logic Pro.
Yeah.
I do all that shit in the same project and shit.
Oh, really?
So you're just cooking it all up right there.
And then you record it and you make the B and Logic.
I don't know.
There has been a few artists over the years, though,
where they had, like, sketchy production
and sketchy engineering and recording.
And then once they, like, started to get a more professional sounding shit,
I didn't like it.
Yeah, or like, at least I didn't like it as much
for a few artists.
That's the appeal.
You got to hold on
to the charm some way, you know?
Anybody ever compared to the Lilby?
Yeah.
Libby had hit me one time too.
He hit me on Twitter.
Because I used to be inboxing
everybody and shit on Twitter.
Yeah, I hit me.
Niggas do compare me to my comments and shit.
Hell yeah.
What was he saying?
You should work with him.
Hell yeah.
He said he was going to plug me on the work
with him and shit.
And then he gave me his name.
number. Doesn't pan
out yet, though?
I'm a hit him.
I'm a hitting. It was just like I caught
a latest foot, so I wanted to like
if you changed his number or some shit like that.
Because I ain't been on Twitter and then like when I got out
I seen it like he got hit me like
probably like in middle while I was in jail.
You know, I don't feel like we really talked about it
but it was pretty crazy to see a little B
in a trippy red video with a
verse on the lyrical lemonade channel.
That was recent. Yeah.
It was crazy. That was pretty wild.
It's like we should have
We should have talked about it more
Because it's like, I'm gonna lie
That's my first time hearing about it
Really?
Huge Lilby fan growing up.
Little Bee
Just don't pop out like that.
I used to love Lil'B, bro.
He seems like it's just to himself.
What's your favorite little B mix?
I just know the songs.
I don't know.
Your favorite song?
It's the, um,
that cat stack shit.
Mm-hmm.
I'm a Martian.
The fucking
Charlie Sheen,
motherfucking.
All that shit.
You're talking about early little bit.
I got into them with the red flame tape.
That's a fact.
Blue flame, red flame, pink flame, black flame.
And my favorite song of all the time is, bitch, I'm Bill Clinton.
Fucking all these wins.
This is facts, Miley Cyrus.
Ellen DeGeneres.
A fact.
Charlie Cheen, you write.
Most definitely.
That's a fact.
Jerry Rice most definitely.
He had some hits.
I used to terrorize everybody else who lived with me at the time when that shit came out.
Me too.
I'd be playing all the time and they'd be.
up and sat.
Yeah, that's a fact.
I was like that would be hot.
I used to play Sgtya too.
I still got a lot.
It's like,
it's a couple songs that Sgt like kind of go hard on.
Oh yeah.
It's the fact his tape with Lil B,
he went crazy.
But we had a good conversation with us earlier
about like what years you listen to
Soldier Boy in your life.
Because to me, I think it was like
multiple.
2008 to 2012 was when I was tough then.
Like for me,
that was the first album I ever bought.
So it's multiple because you got to realize
he had different things.
phases. He had to crank that phase and then he had to kiss me through the phone speakers going hammer phase. That was like his mainstream phase. But then there's that. Then there's this underground phase where he was kind of like doing the little beef thing and he was fucking with all these different underground artists and kind of taken from them and facts. When he had that Versace beat and shit like that, he had that beat first. That's facts. That was the era where he had beef with Ojo the Juice Man because he took his ad libs.
This is facts. Good old time. That niggas a chameleon. He was good.
at it too. He was a chameleon before we
like really knew that that was a thing.
Oh like you could just jacked clothes.
He just come out with plenty of different crazy shit and he can
sound like almost anybody. Yeah.
That's fuck. But he had
the Cali sound. He had mad eyeballs on him
like he was already famous so he's taking
these underground rappers shit and like
people weren't really knowing and like
because he's so big that they hear him doing it and they're like
oh he invented this shit.
He just fucked up. We bought the beef of Sajor Boy again.
I just squawked my beef for Sanger boy again. I'm just
I respect it like he's he's obviously
He's really been an innovator in his own right.
He's just also, like, been very good at kind of taking other people's styles over the years.
Is it right?
Definitely.
How you feel about people taking your style from Milwaukee?
Niggas be doing that shit.
But it's like they want the beats so bad.
Like, they can't.
It's like, niggas gonna have to step up again.
But you can just look on YouTube.
There's a lot of certified trap-type beats.
It ain't really like, you know, other nigger-type beats.
Like, the only niggas are just going to be like a Milwaukee-type beat.
So it's just going to be like a Milwaukee type beat.
Chopper beat is becoming a Milwaukee type beat.
Yeah, for sure.
That's fire.
There ain't no other Milwaukee type beats, but they're like.
Detroit shit.
Yeah.
You think Tommy G's a culture vulture?
Yeah.
Yeah.
His ass crazy.
Like, he's just been, he's been everywhere.
Like, it's kind of hard catching up with him to.
I thought there was no way you were going to say yes to that question.
Because you seem like you guys are actually friends.
Oh, yeah.
What did you say?
A culture vulture.
What's that mean?
He'd be like, do you?
Usually it's a.
considered a negative thing of like a white dude who goes to the hood and kind of like
makes money or or gets something off-nigger shit yeah type shit but he just he just like he's like a
good dude to me he like he like adventures shit like like seeing new things so that's just like why
but he he lives like in Milwaukee so right he just has such a good nature and such a positive
mentality that I feel like that's why a lot of people are willing to welcome him in yeah and it's like
His fans is, like, different.
Like, his fans love him.
They love YouTube.
Yeah.
That's after that video, like, they was like, hell yeah.
They love him, though.
Like, his comments just crazy.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Okay, so who would be your dream feature,
like dream artist to work with?
Future.
Future?
Future for show.
A future song.
Fucking Ozy song.
Oh, like, Drake.
I want to hear some shit with Gucci.
Probably.
Yeah, my life.
That's a good line that.
But I know for sure, I know for sure young boy sound,
fire is a bitch on my song.
On my beats, though.
That's what I kind of like, like.
Where are he from?
Louisiana, Baton Rouge.
Bad Rooz.
Yeah, Baton Rouge type beats.
Like, them are the type of beats I like and shit.
Yeah, but I used to listen to Gucci along guys time.
That's why I said that shit, though.
But right now, like,
turned up sounds and shit.
Like, I'm coming out with a new song.
Who's the rapper that hit you up
that you were the most excited about?
And they're baby chan.
Like a couple of niggas hit me up.
It was like 600 breezy guy hit me up and shit.
Not that many people.
Face, baby face.
True?
That's fire.
Y'all definitely got to knock something up.
I used to listen to that nigga, man, all day.
A fact.
You been in Detroit yet?
Yeah.
Well, of course.
You're from Milwaukee.
What's the differences from like Detroit and Milwaukee that you can see?
What's the differences to you?
Detroit got a big-ass rap scene.
And it's big, like, Michigan big, so it's like, it's not like Milwaukee and shit.
But they definitely got some top 10, 20s and shit like that.
That's why it's big.
They got a lot of people.
I got a question.
Back in the day, were you bumping that?
Tell a bitch Milwaukee, I need my bucks.
He said, I don't know that.
There was an LA rapper who had a song called Milwaukee
or Milwaukee Bucks, yeah.
It's a good song.
I would have thought that people in Milwaukee would have been hyped on it.
Nah, they wasn't feeling that.
They probably already been doing a lot of Milwaukee Bucks type shit
or Milwaukee songs.
You feel me?
I think it's only cool if you're not from Milwaukee.
The punchline might have seemed played out to them already.
I was surprised you heard that shit.
A lot of people don't know nothing.
Nobody from Milwaukee.
Most places I go, they're like,
I don't know.
No rapper from me.
I don't either.
I just met you type shit.
I know Mark Cuban.
You fuck a Super Throw, Dave?
Yeah, I mean.
That's the only other one I think I know.
Like you, Dave.
Oh, no, I'm in with the car VP too.
Carvip.
Mark Cuban owns the bucks, right?
Mavericks.
God damn.
You out here below these references.
Blue the fuck out that reference.
This is no jumber where we know nothing about basketball.
I don't know shit about basketball.
When we pretend to know about basketball,
We get it wrong.
It goes wrong every time.
Crazy.
I mean plenty fucking basketball players
and I just be like,
I don't know who the fucking good is.
That's crazy.
I've been in nice-ass restaurants
and had these eight-foot-tall motherfuckers
come up to me being like,
I fuck with your shit.
And I'm looking at it.
I'm like, I know you're a famous basketball player
but I have no fucking clue.
That's insane.
Yeah, I got to work on my shit.
Even if I watch it all the time,
I don't think I would remember the names.
I mean to actually go to the games and shit like that.
Yeah.
You haven't been to no bucks game?
Like a minute ago,
I'm gonna actually like go to the games and shit.
If you want to live in L.A. and really ball out, you know what you do?
You waste a shitload of money buying fucking floor seats to those Lakers games.
To watch us lose.
And to be like, but you see how much it actually like is something because you see them right there.
And when you're watching the game on TV or up in the stands, you're like, oh, there's that fool.
Oh, shit.
Look at him.
Damn, he got money like that.
He's sitting right there.
Like, it really is a thing.
How much that shit because it's like 5G?
I don't know.
Around there.
How did you get tapped in with, what's his name?
Do you got your jury from?
Why is his name, Johnny Dang?
I'm like, why's his name escaping me?
Yeah.
How do you get hit to, or how you get in contact with Johnny Dang?
I had really, like, called their number and shit.
Like, when they post that shit, I called their number.
And then the service lady just sent me to, send me to Ice Triang.
ice try gang
but he had got me
my jury and shit
through there but I met
I ended up meeting Johnny and shit
like well I guess like
when I spend enough money
I'm gonna get Johnny another
right
definitely
but he's in your video right
so he let you go in there
and shoot the video how was that
that shit was fire and shit
that shit was fire
because I feel like
they treated me
they treated me nice in there
they let me do all type of crazy shit
up in there. You can smoke a bun
in there? No, I ain't smoking.
I ain't trying to.
He definitely went crazy.
He was like, bro, you got to take that break
to the car. Yeah. We've been
doing that over here too. It doesn't always go so well.
It was like an accident
because, like, you know, the laws
that were in their difference.
Right. Like, I forgot.
Definitely.
So, all right, like, what do we
got to look forward to from you
coming up?
I got this at a tape
for the job so chapter of the year that my father's gonna be fire chapter of the year i can get that
artworks i can put that bitch right on to my chapter of the year i'm not for gonna be fire as a bitch
and before we do we gotta get some we gotta get some some Milwaukee terms bro we gotta get some
some definitions or some Milwaukee terms we don't got no nobody else has blew up from Milwaukee so all
the shit y'all be saying just nigger over my head like um um
We're like smacking.
What is that?
What's smacking?
That's like having a lot of heads.
They're headies.
Come on.
Hit me.
What the fuck is a heady?
What's heads?
Break it down.
I don't know.
I ain't going to lie.
I never really said a headie because I don't say that shit.
But heads is like action.
Action.
Yo.
Customers.
There you go.
Custos.
There you go.
Custow.
I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh,
thought people stopped saying that.
You said that shit too, but it's like plenty of customs.
Okay.
Smacking.
Man, I just remember I seen that interview clip where they asked, like, the interviewer was
actually really weird.
The interview was like, so what do you say to people who say you ain't about shit and
you just be in the crib and you ain't never did nothing?
And he's like, man, you know, I used to run up a thousand off of selling 20s.
He just starts saying all this shit that I was pretty convinced.
I'm like, all right, like, I'll be able to just rattle off.
all these drug deal in terminology like that if he was lying facts yeah i did that shit before
how long are you outside for in that regard how long are you outside for in terms of
making money out on the street like i'd be in the car for a long time like sometimes i used to
sleep in the car and shit i used to be making like one g two gs a day probably not profit and
shit uh because you got re-up hell yeah re-up and shit all that shit but we get a big eyes back
like spent like i used to spend like six g seven eight gs all on all on that shit now had no
money and then just like making two jes a day like that that that shit don't really go to go too
far that's what i hear um all right anything you want to anybody you want to thank anything we
need to make note of before we did i want to thank um my label cedar records and shit
I mean my mama.
You got a baby mama too?
I got two baby momas.
They're ops though?
They're ops.
Yeah, you don't fucking.
You don't want to shout them out?
You shouted them out and then you took it back.
You said, no, stop taking that back.
That was the accident.
They're crazy with the op one because they do be on some op shit.
They're doing some op shit.
See?
I caught the vibe.
No, I ain't going to say their name.
But you get my mama.
just my team, my uncles and shit.
My managers, too, and my new managers.
I got a new manager, Ben Baker.
I'm really feeling good about this shit.
I think the next year they're going to be,
this next two of them is going to be fire.
You're going to turn this bitch out.
Hell yeah.
That's right.
I look forward to it.
Thank you, suspect.
Thank you, Trapper.
Appreciate you.
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