No Jumper - Certified Trapper on Gun Charges, Blowing Up off Hood Vlogs, Kia Boys & More

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

Certified Trapper talks about Tommy G, signing a deal, Kia Boys, rappers copying me, and more. ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open....spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm here with my boy, Almighty Suspect, and we're having a conversation with the one and only certified trapper. How you feeling it, A bro? Feeling good. Yeah, that's good news. We need you to snap some energy into it, though.
Starting point is 00:00:15 You want to snap into a Slim Jim? Hell yeah, with that. I don't think we really got it, but... How you know I like Slim James? I was honest as a guess. I didn't think anybody like Slim Jim's. I ain't going to lie. The spicy one?
Starting point is 00:00:28 To Tabasco? That's so good. Come on. Did we just become best friends? The Tabasas don't know. That's a rare gym. The Tabasco one? Isn't there one with like a cheese stick inside of it?
Starting point is 00:00:40 That sound nasty. No? I can't. I'm not with the cheese stick. What about some combos? Nah, bro. We don't need the cheese stick. Tabasco sling.
Starting point is 00:00:50 The combos, it's like pretzel with like cheese stuff in there. I don't know you're talking about. Come with the little pretzel garving and the cheese at the other end. But I feel like they don't even have that at 711 anymore. It's like not popular enough anymore. This is a fat. I think it's for like kids now, bro. I don't know about the cheese steak.
Starting point is 00:01:03 What should be getting when you're going 7-Eleven? I had got some fruit last night. Really? You got 7-11 fruit? Yeah. What was it? The apple, banana? Some grapes.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Some grapes. Some hot fries. Oh, yeah. The other side of the spectrum. Grapes and the hot fries. You got to be healthy, though, too. That's right. You got to get something salty and something sweet.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I get like a Snickers bar and a bag of cheese. I don't know how I feel about that one. that guy some cheeses too. Cheese's going to line, bro. Box of cheeses in the house go like this. Once you bust them open, it's a rat. Papa's a... I'll eat that whole thing.
Starting point is 00:01:40 You're right. Oh, yeah, you're going to eat everything. Back in the day, that was a real problem. I would do a fucking gain like 10 pounds. Yeah, eat everything, bro. That's why I had to quit drinking juice, bro. It was gaining weight. No cap.
Starting point is 00:01:51 It makes you eat crazy, bro. Yeah. But, okay, so Milwaukee. Let's talk about it. In the house. Teap up on the ass. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about what it was like coming up out there besides the supermarket or the 7-Eleven?
Starting point is 00:02:12 It's hard out there for it. It's like greeting hard. It's hard. It's hard out of here for me. And, too. For sure. I mean, I've seen Tommy G's vlog that he did with you out there. That's how I found him too.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, really? That's he found him? The first, first time I've seen him. I think it was he brought you to the beekeeper and you had got stung out of being
Starting point is 00:02:37 he ran in the circles the whole time as Tommy G over there they went to meet a beekeeper bro I didn't see that I saw him pulling up on your block
Starting point is 00:02:44 and you were just hanging out with hell of guns nah he beat with him like a lot oh so you did more videos after that yeah I did some more shit with him
Starting point is 00:02:50 we got some more shit coming to shout to Tommy G was that your first time ever encountering like bees in such numbers that's the first time
Starting point is 00:02:57 I got stunned yeah that's hurt gang I got stunned And then it was like when we left, it was a bee in my shirt. So it came with you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:07 It was stinging you the whole time type of shit? No, it ain't stinging me no more, but it wasn't in my job. Man, that's crazy. He was running from the bee. It was crazy. Wow, that's crazy. They just go 30 miles per hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm running it. I was not getting away from them. I've got some serious B memories as a kid. My mom still makes fun of what I acted like when I was like five years old when I first got sung by a B. I only got stoned once. It was like the summer in the pool, stung me, right here on my finger.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I tried to swat it. That was terrible. If I got something about it be like right now, I don't even think it would be that big a deal, but when you're a kid, it seems insane. When you were gonna die. Yeah. No cap.
Starting point is 00:03:41 But he was gonna die too. Because it was a lot, bro. You was like running from a hive. It was nuts. That was on my hud. That was running fast as a bit. Them o'-hast was not going nowhere. You ever seen a cartoon where I'm gonna have
Starting point is 00:03:55 a whole bees nest land on his head? I wonder if that's ever really happened anymore? I'm sure. I got chased by a hive before, middle of the street. But did it land on your head? Nah, but I don't know what I did, but I was just walking down the street from school one day, and I heard him. Like, it was like a whole cloud of them. I didn't know it was, I thought it was maybe like some, some gnats or something.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I got close, and it was bees, and they chased us for some blocks. It's crazy. How fast you're going if you can't run faster than 30 miles per hour. It's not. Yeah, I don't think anyone can run that fast. But, okay, so what was your childhood like? Like, what, do you have your mom and your dad around? Yeah, I had my mom and my dad around.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I was just like, I got kicked out when I was 13, so it was like. Where'd you go? I went to stay with my grandma. What did you get kicked out for? I had, I had like four in the basement and shit, but I was already on the urge getting kicked out and shit. When I was like 13, I had like four in the basement. Like Angie Tate.
Starting point is 00:04:59 She was just like, you tripping. And then I had to leave. So was they just like coming over, chilling? They're like, you was fin of getting cracking? I was feeling. I was definitely going to do something. So she fucked that out. You were about to fuck all four of them or maybe like one?
Starting point is 00:05:16 You was by yourself? Yeah. Oh, you had it bus? And it was just you? Four gherbs? Yeah. Oh, he was going crazy. And she's seeing him come in and shit.
Starting point is 00:05:24 She was like, you know what they miss late? You just snuck him in with her in there? She was, I don't know where she was at, but I guess she's seen him come in. Damn. Damn, the desire for pussy is so strong that you'll really be trying anything. Having them over, even when you know there's like a pretty good chance. Your parents could be coming home?
Starting point is 00:05:42 I was like 12, 13. Damn, so you got kicked out for that. And then you go to live with your grandma, and is she letting you have bitches over? Yeah, like, I was getting cold with bitches with her and shit. But she's just like, that was my grandma. So she, like, she wouldn't understand. But I just never did, like, stolen cars and shit. I was just, like, really, like, doing my.
Starting point is 00:06:06 my music most of the time and shit the stealing cars is like the thing where you're from i'm just for to say has that always been a big thing in milwaukee yeah it's either like you steal cars or you don't like i was just buying cars and shit i just buy buy my car the niggas if you steal cars it's like a sport you know how like you sell dope you steal cars it's like more and more places that you hear that though because jbo was just saying that exact same thing Tommy g when he did the st louis vlog that's where they were talking about the Kia Boys and shit. Not, Keyer Boys is Milwaukee. Okay, but them St. Louis dudes are all talking about the same thing and shit.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It's like a real thing now. I don't remember motherfuckers talking about that much when I was a kid. They used to always still cars. But once they found out how to do the kids, then that shit just turned their way more up. Right. Damn, so you never did it? I got in a couple, but I never like stole shit.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Okay. I feel that. How do you do it? With the little kid shit? Yeah. You better type it on YouTube. Where, bro. Put a little USB in there.
Starting point is 00:07:08 You put the charger in it. You dismantle the thing? Put the charger in it and turns the car. You ever seen this in person? Yeah, yeah. I seen that shit before, like, everybody caught on to that shit and shit. Motherfuckers, I've seen that shit.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like, motherfucker put their charger in there and turn that bitch right on. Damn, but they say you make music for the kid boys. Yeah. You think that's true? For some reason, it just sounds so good fucking with them.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And then they just fucking the car. curve. Like, that's all they want to do is drive the car crazy as hell. Right. And then it's like the music sounds so good with the keyboard. It's just like the dancing shit. Like, it kind of bring it together. And like, yeah, I was just like hearing motherfuckers dying and shit. Like, motherfuckers was coming on my shit. Like, bro, die. Listen to this shit. That's like fucking crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. And he's crashing a car listening to my shit. I mean, your music does kind of sound like I could steal a car and die listening to it.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Like, it just sounds like some real reckless shit. I'm not going to lie. You on my playlist, bro. For sure, for sure. I found out of the bottom because you hit me with that. Lil. Lil. I'm censoring it myself.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah. But you got to, it says Ninja on YouTube. That's my shit. You had to change it, like, to make money off YouTube or? What, Lil Ninja? Yeah. I just knew I didn't want to put a nigga on here, so I was just like. Smart.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I just knew I couldn't put that. I don't be trying to put the customers in there because I already know it's like I heard you know it was going to go viral no but it was like no I didn't know but it went viral before I like I actually got to release it because I did a video
Starting point is 00:08:51 like it was my first video when I got home and shit I posted it how long were you locked up 80 days something like that what was that for? I had some cassill of Carrie misdement and shit
Starting point is 00:09:06 And then, yeah, I got revocated for that Tommy G video. Wait, wait, wait, what happened in the video that you got in trouble for? The blowers? Yeah. Mm-hmm. I had that shit. And then it was like, you did this video before, I mean, while you on probation and shit, I was on probation. That's interesting because I noticed that, like, the guns that you're holding were blurred out and that a lot of the other guns weren't blurred out.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Is that why? No, it was just, like, the type of gun I had. Okay, with the big fucking drum on it? Yeah. Yeah. I would imagine that that could be in a weird category, legally or whatever. That's a fact. But, okay, so when do you start making music?
Starting point is 00:09:50 I started making music a long as time ago, like, 2011 and shit. I made my YouTube 2012 in my Twitter and shit. But, like, I went to school for audio engineering, so that's when shit, like, kind of started taking off and shit. It was a college work? Hell, yeah. Hmm. Small man. Would you always recording yourself and doing your own videos or you went to school first and then figured it out?
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah, like, I used to already know, like, I needed to do my own shit. But, like, once I went to school to learn to use the software and shit, then it was just up from there. And then I bought a fucking camera and shit. And then, like, it was kind of hard getting people to record my shit. So I started doing the videos, the selfie videos. I said, I ain't going to lie, but the first time I seen it. I die laugh. I'm like, this nigga is created.
Starting point is 00:10:44 He then recorded the song. He said, do you make the beat too? Yeah, make the beats. He made the beats. He recorded itself all in one room. Right. All in his room or the kitchen. Facts.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Impressive. The labels love that shit. I know you signed. But the labels love that when you could do all that shit, right? Because then they don't have to worry about getting a million different people to sign off on a song. Yeah, definitely that. Right. That's exactly why they like that shit.
Starting point is 00:11:09 When you started rapping, did you, uh, like have like Detroit influences or did you have like Milwaukee influences like who influenced you to start rapping it was like I don't know my sound just like it'd be it's like brand new so I needed beats I couldn't get no beats I couldn't use like YouTube beats no more that's why I went to school to like learn how to use the software and shit and then I did like two years like two years doing that shit and then It was just up From near
Starting point is 00:11:42 How'd you like Discover your sound though Did your music sound more normal At some point It didn't It's always been out there It's like No it sounded weird
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's the bitch at first And then it's like I kept going with it It's just the beats The beats and shit Right Who'd you listening to Before you started rapping
Starting point is 00:12:00 For like growing up Who was listening to? I used to listen Like Chief Keefe Chief Keefe and shit Like when I was young Like 9-10 I used to listen
Starting point is 00:12:09 The Soldier Boy and shit like that. It would be a fucking, um, future band gang and shit. I used to listen to a lot of motherfuck not too many people
Starting point is 00:12:24 but like now I just listen to myself like in the car and shit I play a little bit of Babytron future for show in that bitch how do you and Babytron connect? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:35 hit me yeah, hit me up on Instagram and shit because like this was before he was lit, right? Well, he was like semi-lit but you first heard of him
Starting point is 00:12:43 like many years ago, right? A couple years ago? No, no. He just met him a couple months ago. He already long hair glasses trod. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. So, do you feel like Detroit is a big influence on Milwaukee?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Hell yeah. That's all Milwaukee used to really, like, really listen to before, like, Detroit had all the more younger rappers and shit. Like, what I fucking used to really, really do listen to Detroit for sure? And then, like, Detroit, dude got to live. a bit more connection with Milwaukee too, like other artists and shit. Definitely. When did you get the name? I want to say 2021.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Okay. Which was going by before that? It was like, I had fucking, like, when I was doing SoundCloud, I was popping on SoundCloud and shit, I was doing, like, my shit was a lot of guap. And then I had it to CTN number one. Because that was, like, certified trap nigga, number one. And then I was just like, fucking, let me go certified trap. because it was kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Like shit. That shit. So it was all just something you came up with. It wasn't like somebody else's idea? That's what's up. You got a lot of punch bars. Was the scamming a part of your life at one point? Scaming?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. I don't know. I know a couple of niggas out. They got plenty of money doing that shit. I never had got no stimulus, none of that shit. I wish like I could have got like a PEP or some shit. I would have been fucking out. doing plenty shit.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Right, yeah, definitely. Is Milwaukee like a, do you all got like blood, crips or like, what's the games? Because I know the whole Milwaukee thing, like right now, everybody's saying like On the G, like, can you explain that? The owner G. Where that's from?
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's like, it's GD's. It's like some GDs originated from there, GD's, vice lords. That's really it. GD.'s, vice lords, and then motherfuckers be like streets. Like, that's really what motherfuckers like, like size of town and shit.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Can you explain the lows? The low end? That's like where. I want to say that's like where I'm from, but that's like I don't know like 10th in capital and down or something like that. But that's like the east side of Milwaukee? It's not because we don't really call it that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 We just say the east, but I guess the lows, I don't know. I don't know what them nays really. I don't know what the fuck that is. I swear to God. I just be. I don't really know.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But that's some Milwaukee shit. Like they say like the low end, the lows, you feel me, on the east. That's the lower numbers. So the lower numbers of the streets is why they call it the low end. Yeah. When did you, like, actually first start
Starting point is 00:15:39 to feel like the music was hitting? Like, what did it take? It just started to go up on YouTube. It was just like the little first couple hits and shit. Like, I made this, I made a couple of songs and then motherfuckers did a number.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So after I seen that shit, it was just like, keep using my beats and shit, using my son, making new sounds. And then I got to a point where I was dropping like five, 10 videos a day. And then, like, that's when I started.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I really was doing that shit for the money and shit because when I got monetized, I was just like going crazy. Five videos a day. That's insane. Music videos, though. But, like, how much work can you really put in
Starting point is 00:16:22 doing five a day? Like, they all kind of look the same, I'm assuming? I was doing all this. I could still do this shit. I was doing all the songs and then just record that shit all together. This is facts. And, nigga, it'll be five different videos.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Who had the same outfit on it? You can tell he just did him all in the exact same day. Now, but that's kind of like your like appeal. Like, what was some of your first reactions when you first start doing that? Like in your room, some of the videos. What was the first, some of the comments or like, your boys? Like, how was everybody reacting to it? It was just like, this niggas dropped 10.
Starting point is 00:16:55 video this niggins job four videos in the hour or some shit like that like that's what they keep saying like keep going motherfuckers like that shit though because it's really for people to listen to so it's like people just listen to that it's like the guy visualizer on fucking youtube now you know they like put up the songs it's not a video but it's like something moving around like oh no but uh yeah like it's pretty crazy because i know like when you when you showed me him, uh, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:26 I was like, this is, this is dope, but I didn't, I didn't necessarily expect, like, the dude who signed him is a real, I won't even say who,
Starting point is 00:17:33 but he's a real legend in the music industry. And he hit me up to organize this interview. And I was like, oh shit, you fucking were certified trapper? And he's like, yes, we believe in him.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I was like, damn, bro, that's crazy. It's new. It's different. He'd do everything itself. And if you paying attention to the Milwaukee scene, bro,
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't know if this scene was around before you, but since you've been around, it's been a lot of people copying that shit or just, nigga, how you do your shit, what you was saying in your shit, like it seemed like you damn there started a wave. Like, do you think
Starting point is 00:18:03 you started it or was it around already? Or was it you? It's some different sounds that's coming from Milwaukee. It's like, I originated my sound, so like, I ain't gonna be like, oh, that's my shit, but shit, like, definitely people who is copying my shit.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's a fact. And then they're copying my beats and shit, but it's like, I'm gonna get better better so they ain't gonna be able to always keep doing that shit for sure do you think that being in those Tommy G videos and shit actually got you fans and made people check out your music yeah like y'all you i did y'all know me from Tommy G video and like i think Jeff's seen me from Tommy G video and shit but because like he believed in me too like through this shit like well this shit is crazy because like before motherfuckers was even really looking at me and shit But I was like getting high
Starting point is 00:18:55 attention and shit But he was just like It is crazy how you make your obese And do all this shit out of here And shit like that You crazy And then I pulled it up on him one day Like I end up seeing him
Starting point is 00:19:07 Before even try to talk to fuck with me and shit Like I stopped the car and shit And I had like five guns in the car and shit I'm like what's up Tommy G? Yeah he said that you scared the shit out of him Why he has so many guns Five is a lot That's how we do
Starting point is 00:19:21 That's how we're out there five visible too like he saw them right away it's not like you didn't have to pull them out they were just out but so Milwaukee's like that like it's just not a big deal for people that have a hell of guns on I mean shit it's probably not
Starting point is 00:19:37 I don't know if everybody moved like that but shit like it's not like here he said misdemeanor gun case that's not here you're getting a felony the stuff I've seen in those vlogs of him standing in the alley with all his homies and every single one of them
Starting point is 00:19:52 got two guns on them i've never seen anything like that in l.a i mean i'm sure there are people with it like that in l.a but they're not filming vlogs real that's right we this is like 1980s early 2000s at the earliest but it's like now we can't do that no more type shit it is it is crazy out there though in Milwaukee always been a war zone like that is always it's like some car shit though like you would be driving in the car in that shit that's why that's why I'm gonna fuck around like that though. Wait, somebody will shoot you while you're driving most likely?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, you're most likely have to do a, do a shootout like in the car. Like, that's not smart, but it's like, that's how Nick is doing it. So you gotta be careful, fuck around in their cars and shit. Yeah, that's a fact. Especially them keys.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That's definitely a fact. But like, I don't know, like, how many, are you able to say how many guns you own? No guns. Right now, I don't owe no guns. Smart answer. So if you get caught up and you end up being on probation or whatever, is over for that?
Starting point is 00:21:01 Over for the gun shit? Yeah. Like, hopefully, like, I'm going through some shit right now, so hopefully I'm going to be able to still carry. So the case that you got out, not over yet, from the 80 days? I got out on some shit and some shit just happened like a couple days ago. Like, last week. And then, like, I got pending charges.
Starting point is 00:21:24 but I'm thinking like my lawyer gonna get that shit to the point is like I'm not charged. I'm not charged of shit right now but it's like I got pending charges. Right. Yeah. So how long you've been signed?
Starting point is 00:21:36 I signed three months. I'm going to say three, four months. It's been four months. Do you feel the difference yet? Or like what's difference from before from how you move in or recording or even your videos like what's the difference from before you assigned to now,
Starting point is 00:21:54 if any? The difference is like how I get paid and shit it's different from like how I was before the way I get paid and shit and my work, my work ethic like working all fucking,
Starting point is 00:22:09 all fucking week all day and shit like all work and then like now I got a team and shit so it's like kind of it's kind of different but shit gonna keep changing this shit though like we're looking forward to like doing bigger shit is it like having a team and shit
Starting point is 00:22:25 is it less work on or is more work because they're doing a bunch of the work right yeah they didn't it's like everybody like it's kind of equal it's like everybody just like we definitely got to keep the conversation like how we conversation right now and shit like that's the that's really the work and shit now that you're signed though like could you imagine your music sounding like being more professionally recorded because it's it's kind of like that's the charm of it is that it's recorded in I don't want to say like a shitty way but it's like it sounds super wrong. Like, could you imagine yourself doing some shit that sounds like fucking future in the future, like all clean and polished?
Starting point is 00:23:03 I can't wait to hear some shit like that. I know that's going to be really different. It's just like, I make the beats and shit, so my beats got to get better. And the way I mix the beat and shit, like, I can always get an engineer and have them mix my vocals and shit. It's just like, if the beat sound like childish stuff, that's what a lot of people were saying, like, this nigga making Mario Kart beat. What program you use? I use Logic. You're Logic Pro.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah. I do all that shit in the same project and shit. Oh, really? So you're just cooking it all up right there. And then you record it and you make the B and Logic. I don't know. There has been a few artists over the years, though, where they had, like, sketchy production
Starting point is 00:23:47 and sketchy engineering and recording. And then once they, like, started to get a more professional sounding shit, I didn't like it. Yeah, or like, at least I didn't like it as much for a few artists. That's the appeal. You got to hold on to the charm some way, you know?
Starting point is 00:24:00 Anybody ever compared to the Lilby? Yeah. Libby had hit me one time too. He hit me on Twitter. Because I used to be inboxing everybody and shit on Twitter. Yeah, I hit me. Niggas do compare me to my comments and shit.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Hell yeah. What was he saying? You should work with him. Hell yeah. He said he was going to plug me on the work with him and shit. And then he gave me his name. number. Doesn't pan
Starting point is 00:24:29 out yet, though? I'm a hit him. I'm a hitting. It was just like I caught a latest foot, so I wanted to like if you changed his number or some shit like that. Because I ain't been on Twitter and then like when I got out I seen it like he got hit me like probably like in middle while I was in jail.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You know, I don't feel like we really talked about it but it was pretty crazy to see a little B in a trippy red video with a verse on the lyrical lemonade channel. That was recent. Yeah. It was crazy. That was pretty wild. It's like we should have We should have talked about it more
Starting point is 00:24:59 Because it's like, I'm gonna lie That's my first time hearing about it Really? Huge Lilby fan growing up. Little Bee Just don't pop out like that. I used to love Lil'B, bro. He seems like it's just to himself.
Starting point is 00:25:08 What's your favorite little B mix? I just know the songs. I don't know. Your favorite song? It's the, um, that cat stack shit. Mm-hmm. I'm a Martian.
Starting point is 00:25:25 The fucking Charlie Sheen, motherfucking. All that shit. You're talking about early little bit. I got into them with the red flame tape. That's a fact. Blue flame, red flame, pink flame, black flame.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And my favorite song of all the time is, bitch, I'm Bill Clinton. Fucking all these wins. This is facts, Miley Cyrus. Ellen DeGeneres. A fact. Charlie Cheen, you write. Most definitely. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Jerry Rice most definitely. He had some hits. I used to terrorize everybody else who lived with me at the time when that shit came out. Me too. I'd be playing all the time and they'd be. up and sat. Yeah, that's a fact. I was like that would be hot.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I used to play Sgtya too. I still got a lot. It's like, it's a couple songs that Sgt like kind of go hard on. Oh yeah. It's the fact his tape with Lil B, he went crazy. But we had a good conversation with us earlier
Starting point is 00:26:16 about like what years you listen to Soldier Boy in your life. Because to me, I think it was like multiple. 2008 to 2012 was when I was tough then. Like for me, that was the first album I ever bought. So it's multiple because you got to realize
Starting point is 00:26:30 he had different things. phases. He had to crank that phase and then he had to kiss me through the phone speakers going hammer phase. That was like his mainstream phase. But then there's that. Then there's this underground phase where he was kind of like doing the little beef thing and he was fucking with all these different underground artists and kind of taken from them and facts. When he had that Versace beat and shit like that, he had that beat first. That's facts. That was the era where he had beef with Ojo the Juice Man because he took his ad libs. This is facts. Good old time. That niggas a chameleon. He was good. at it too. He was a chameleon before we like really knew that that was a thing. Oh like you could just jacked clothes. He just come out with plenty of different crazy shit and he can sound like almost anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:10 That's fuck. But he had the Cali sound. He had mad eyeballs on him like he was already famous so he's taking these underground rappers shit and like people weren't really knowing and like because he's so big that they hear him doing it and they're like oh he invented this shit. He just fucked up. We bought the beef of Sajor Boy again.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I just squawked my beef for Sanger boy again. I'm just I respect it like he's he's obviously He's really been an innovator in his own right. He's just also, like, been very good at kind of taking other people's styles over the years. Is it right? Definitely. How you feel about people taking your style from Milwaukee? Niggas be doing that shit.
Starting point is 00:27:43 But it's like they want the beats so bad. Like, they can't. It's like, niggas gonna have to step up again. But you can just look on YouTube. There's a lot of certified trap-type beats. It ain't really like, you know, other nigger-type beats. Like, the only niggas are just going to be like a Milwaukee-type beat. So it's just going to be like a Milwaukee type beat.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Chopper beat is becoming a Milwaukee type beat. Yeah, for sure. That's fire. There ain't no other Milwaukee type beats, but they're like. Detroit shit. Yeah. You think Tommy G's a culture vulture? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah. His ass crazy. Like, he's just been, he's been everywhere. Like, it's kind of hard catching up with him to. I thought there was no way you were going to say yes to that question. Because you seem like you guys are actually friends. Oh, yeah. What did you say?
Starting point is 00:28:25 A culture vulture. What's that mean? He'd be like, do you? Usually it's a. considered a negative thing of like a white dude who goes to the hood and kind of like makes money or or gets something off-nigger shit yeah type shit but he just he just like he's like a good dude to me he like he like adventures shit like like seeing new things so that's just like why but he he lives like in Milwaukee so right he just has such a good nature and such a positive
Starting point is 00:28:54 mentality that I feel like that's why a lot of people are willing to welcome him in yeah and it's like His fans is, like, different. Like, his fans love him. They love YouTube. Yeah. That's after that video, like, they was like, hell yeah. They love him, though. Like, his comments just crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Definitely. Yeah. Okay, so who would be your dream feature, like dream artist to work with? Future. Future? Future for show. A future song.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Fucking Ozy song. Oh, like, Drake. I want to hear some shit with Gucci. Probably. Yeah, my life. That's a good line that. But I know for sure, I know for sure young boy sound, fire is a bitch on my song.
Starting point is 00:29:49 On my beats, though. That's what I kind of like, like. Where are he from? Louisiana, Baton Rouge. Bad Rooz. Yeah, Baton Rouge type beats. Like, them are the type of beats I like and shit. Yeah, but I used to listen to Gucci along guys time.
Starting point is 00:30:02 That's why I said that shit, though. But right now, like, turned up sounds and shit. Like, I'm coming out with a new song. Who's the rapper that hit you up that you were the most excited about? And they're baby chan. Like a couple of niggas hit me up.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It was like 600 breezy guy hit me up and shit. Not that many people. Face, baby face. True? That's fire. Y'all definitely got to knock something up. I used to listen to that nigga, man, all day. A fact.
Starting point is 00:30:39 You been in Detroit yet? Yeah. Well, of course. You're from Milwaukee. What's the differences from like Detroit and Milwaukee that you can see? What's the differences to you? Detroit got a big-ass rap scene. And it's big, like, Michigan big, so it's like, it's not like Milwaukee and shit.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But they definitely got some top 10, 20s and shit like that. That's why it's big. They got a lot of people. I got a question. Back in the day, were you bumping that? Tell a bitch Milwaukee, I need my bucks. He said, I don't know that. There was an LA rapper who had a song called Milwaukee
Starting point is 00:31:20 or Milwaukee Bucks, yeah. It's a good song. I would have thought that people in Milwaukee would have been hyped on it. Nah, they wasn't feeling that. They probably already been doing a lot of Milwaukee Bucks type shit or Milwaukee songs. You feel me? I think it's only cool if you're not from Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:31:34 The punchline might have seemed played out to them already. I was surprised you heard that shit. A lot of people don't know nothing. Nobody from Milwaukee. Most places I go, they're like, I don't know. No rapper from me. I don't either.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I just met you type shit. I know Mark Cuban. You fuck a Super Throw, Dave? Yeah, I mean. That's the only other one I think I know. Like you, Dave. Oh, no, I'm in with the car VP too. Carvip.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Mark Cuban owns the bucks, right? Mavericks. God damn. You out here below these references. Blue the fuck out that reference. This is no jumber where we know nothing about basketball. I don't know shit about basketball. When we pretend to know about basketball,
Starting point is 00:32:17 We get it wrong. It goes wrong every time. Crazy. I mean plenty fucking basketball players and I just be like, I don't know who the fucking good is. That's crazy. I've been in nice-ass restaurants
Starting point is 00:32:27 and had these eight-foot-tall motherfuckers come up to me being like, I fuck with your shit. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, I know you're a famous basketball player but I have no fucking clue. That's insane. Yeah, I got to work on my shit.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Even if I watch it all the time, I don't think I would remember the names. I mean to actually go to the games and shit like that. Yeah. You haven't been to no bucks game? Like a minute ago, I'm gonna actually like go to the games and shit. If you want to live in L.A. and really ball out, you know what you do?
Starting point is 00:32:52 You waste a shitload of money buying fucking floor seats to those Lakers games. To watch us lose. And to be like, but you see how much it actually like is something because you see them right there. And when you're watching the game on TV or up in the stands, you're like, oh, there's that fool. Oh, shit. Look at him. Damn, he got money like that. He's sitting right there.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Like, it really is a thing. How much that shit because it's like 5G? I don't know. Around there. How did you get tapped in with, what's his name? Do you got your jury from? Why is his name, Johnny Dang? I'm like, why's his name escaping me?
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. How do you get hit to, or how you get in contact with Johnny Dang? I had really, like, called their number and shit. Like, when they post that shit, I called their number. And then the service lady just sent me to, send me to Ice Triang. ice try gang but he had got me my jury and shit
Starting point is 00:33:51 through there but I met I ended up meeting Johnny and shit like well I guess like when I spend enough money I'm gonna get Johnny another right definitely but he's in your video right
Starting point is 00:34:05 so he let you go in there and shoot the video how was that that shit was fire and shit that shit was fire because I feel like they treated me they treated me nice in there they let me do all type of crazy shit
Starting point is 00:34:17 up in there. You can smoke a bun in there? No, I ain't smoking. I ain't trying to. He definitely went crazy. He was like, bro, you got to take that break to the car. Yeah. We've been doing that over here too. It doesn't always go so well. It was like an accident
Starting point is 00:34:33 because, like, you know, the laws that were in their difference. Right. Like, I forgot. Definitely. So, all right, like, what do we got to look forward to from you coming up? I got this at a tape
Starting point is 00:34:46 for the job so chapter of the year that my father's gonna be fire chapter of the year i can get that artworks i can put that bitch right on to my chapter of the year i'm not for gonna be fire as a bitch and before we do we gotta get some we gotta get some some Milwaukee terms bro we gotta get some some definitions or some Milwaukee terms we don't got no nobody else has blew up from Milwaukee so all the shit y'all be saying just nigger over my head like um um We're like smacking. What is that? What's smacking?
Starting point is 00:35:20 That's like having a lot of heads. They're headies. Come on. Hit me. What the fuck is a heady? What's heads? Break it down. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I ain't going to lie. I never really said a headie because I don't say that shit. But heads is like action. Action. Yo. Customers. There you go. Custos.
Starting point is 00:35:48 There you go. Custow. I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, thought people stopped saying that. You said that shit too, but it's like plenty of customs. Okay. Smacking. Man, I just remember I seen that interview clip where they asked, like, the interviewer was
Starting point is 00:36:03 actually really weird. The interview was like, so what do you say to people who say you ain't about shit and you just be in the crib and you ain't never did nothing? And he's like, man, you know, I used to run up a thousand off of selling 20s. He just starts saying all this shit that I was pretty convinced. I'm like, all right, like, I'll be able to just rattle off. all these drug deal in terminology like that if he was lying facts yeah i did that shit before how long are you outside for in that regard how long are you outside for in terms of
Starting point is 00:36:31 making money out on the street like i'd be in the car for a long time like sometimes i used to sleep in the car and shit i used to be making like one g two gs a day probably not profit and shit uh because you got re-up hell yeah re-up and shit all that shit but we get a big eyes back like spent like i used to spend like six g seven eight gs all on all on that shit now had no money and then just like making two jes a day like that that that shit don't really go to go too far that's what i hear um all right anything you want to anybody you want to thank anything we need to make note of before we did i want to thank um my label cedar records and shit I mean my mama.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You got a baby mama too? I got two baby momas. They're ops though? They're ops. Yeah, you don't fucking. You don't want to shout them out? You shouted them out and then you took it back. You said, no, stop taking that back.
Starting point is 00:37:43 That was the accident. They're crazy with the op one because they do be on some op shit. They're doing some op shit. See? I caught the vibe. No, I ain't going to say their name. But you get my mama. just my team, my uncles and shit.
Starting point is 00:37:58 My managers, too, and my new managers. I got a new manager, Ben Baker. I'm really feeling good about this shit. I think the next year they're going to be, this next two of them is going to be fire. You're going to turn this bitch out. Hell yeah. That's right.
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