No Jumper - Chanel West Coast on Club Freak Out Video, Nicki Minaj drama, Charlamagne

Episode Date: September 5, 2019

Chanel West Coast stops by the No Jumper podcast to let the people know she's a talented rapper, to talk new music, Ridiculousness and clear the air on a couple viral moments. --- 1:55 Who is Chanel W...est Coast 5:31 Pushing her music on Myspace and linking with Rob Dyrdek 7:17 Meeting Rob Dyrdek and working on Ridiculousness 10:37 People not knowing the real her 13:18 Balancing TV and music 13:45 Not getting props for being a dope rapper 15:03 Charlamagne beef 17:05 Going out of your way to share a negative opinion 17:23 Constructive criticism IG 19:59 Happy she went viral with Charlamagne beef, being a slept on rapper 21:43 The politics of being signed to Young Money 22:02 Young Money debacle 25:46 Nicki Minaj 26:54 Lil Kim, Trina cosigns 27:52 Young Money deal ever happened? 30:42 State of female rappers 32:44 Harder for white female rapper 34:07 BoyBoy West Coast 37:27 Working with DAX and Nessly 39:06 Poppy and 1OAK night club incidents 43:27 What really happened outside of Poppy 46:15 People craving for a negative viral moment 47:15 Kylie Jenner 47:54 Chanel's new music 49:08 Chanel's clothing line --- FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://spoti.fi/2vi9lsD CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper and iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 and follow us on Social Media: http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm follow Adam22 as well: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and follow adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No, John Berk coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm here with Chanel West Coast. We were just talking about this sort of dynamic where, you know, girls are very particular about what way they're filmed, what the angle is. And you were saying that you felt like the ridiculousness angle was not fair to you? It's not. It's just, well, there's always an angle that's of all of us. And that's a better angle.
Starting point is 00:00:18 So when you see me and Sterling or me and Sterling and the guest, it's usually like a cuter angle of me. But all of the solo shots that that camera that they use is dead set on my worst angle possible. And there's nothing that you could say to them to change this? I've tried to, but I don't think anybody cares. Right. Nobody cares because I was interviewing a girl the other day and we have multiple camera angles and she had seen the good one, but there was another one that was more like straight on. And I'll admit it was way less flattering. Like almost didn't look like the same person. And she kind of like caught a glimpse of it at the last second was just like horrified and I felt really bad. And it made me
Starting point is 00:00:55 realize like you kind of have to have like an open communication about the angle because the angles are important this day and age. No, it's angles are everything to girls. And we don't like that lower angle. It's like a very, you know, it's, we don't like that chin angle. That's a better angle for guys because guys got stronger draw lines, you know? I think about that all the time, too, that I like intentionally make myself look like shit on my Instagram story. When all I, I know all I have to do is drug my arm up in the air to make myself look way better or like find some good lighting. Yeah. And just don't really care that much. Yeah. And the guys, they don't. Yeah. It's a double standard. It's a girl thing. It is, isn't it? Um, so how are you doing?
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm great. How are you? I'm doing excellent. This is a jam-pack day of interviews. I've had a jam-pack day too. Actually, well, I will say I'm great aside from, please excuse me if I have to cough. I'm fighting off a little cold right now. Just a cold, though. It's not like pneumonia or anything serious? No, nothing that crazy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. That's cool. I feel like a lot of people want to know who Chanel West Coast was prior to ridiculousness. So let's talk a little bit about your early days. Where do we start? Very early? Like, you're talking birth? born, you know, maybe like what you were like as a kid and stuff? Yeah, so I was born in Van Nuys,
Starting point is 00:02:04 California. Well, so I was conceived on the East Coast, though. Mom and dad hooked up in the East Coast. Do you know what they were doing? No, I don't. Let's not get into all that. But so my dad's from New York, from Brooklyn. So, so I'm kind of bi-coastal, but I was born and raised here in L.A. And pretty much been doing music my whole life since like I could start, you know, since I was talking. I was singing, dancing. Yeah, my mom. Like she always said like she knew it she has this funny story actually. She knew that I had a musical, you know, knack or whatever because my dad's a DJ, but my mom's not really a music person.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So she, I guess, wasn't like for sure if I would pick up his talent or whatever. So one day I come out with a little Cassio keyboard and I told my mom, I'm like, guess what mom? ABC's and Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star is the same song. And my mom's like, ABC, D, E, FG, Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star. Holy shit, this kid knows her music. I figured that out like a couple of years ago because somebody tweeted about it. I was pretty impressive, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Three when I figured that out. So my mom from that moment, she was like, let's get her like piano lessons, dance, dance, all that. So I was always in, I was in hip hop dance and like ballet. It's a little girl, but I stayed in hip hop dance. I quit the ballet and I was a hip hop dancer all throughout school. I was in hip hop dance, cheerleading, orchestra. I used to play violin, but I stopped that.
Starting point is 00:03:25 I might get back into it. Were you writing raps while you were young, you were in like school and shit um yeah i start it's so funny because i i guess that might have something to do with the starting to smoke weed at a young age but i kind of forgot like actually that i was already rapping at school and stuff and i'll have friends be like yeah remember that time you were rapping at the lunch tables i was like i did that really i'm like yeah it's like you know kind of kind of foggy uh foggy memory of high school let's just say right it's easy to forget about a lot of the fucking weird ass shit that you were into in high school for like a week exactly
Starting point is 00:03:56 Exactly. Exactly. And then people bring it up and I'm like, oh shit. Okay, now I remember. But yeah, so I started rapping in high school and that's, you know, that was when Myspace started popping off. Oh, so you were a girl rapping on Myspace where you actually using Myspace to promote your stuff at that time? Yes. So basically, it's a long story. Man, so I got a crazy story. I'm going to write a book about it one day. I'm trying to make it short for you. But the first producer I started working with, actually, sadly, he was my first boyfriend too. And he passed away. He was shot and killed. And after that, that was like a moment in my life where I was just like, I need to like completely focus on my music. You were with him and he was shot and killed? No, we had broke up. But he was like my first everything. And you were how old? I was 18 when he passed away.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Wow. And so I was, you know, we had started doing music when I was like 16. And, you know, I stopped working with him because we broke up. And so when he passed away, I realized that I had basically wasted a lot of time. and that it was really stupid that I didn't stay working with him while he was still alive. You know, you realize like, why did we stop working just because we broke up, you know? Why was he? What kind of shit was he involved in?
Starting point is 00:05:05 He got shy. Him and his best friend were shot and killed. Were they in the streets? Or was just like some random shit? It was like some random shit. They were in a bad area of the valley. I know people think the valley's not hood, but it is in lots of places. It's got some nooks and crannies.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Lots of nooks and crannies. And yeah, they were leaving the studio going to 7-11 to get a blunt. And some fools, I don't know the whole story, but like they, yeah. they were shot and killed. Wow. It was like the most devastating thing in my life at the time, you know? So I was just like literally, I actually had a new boyfriend who was like kind of controlling. And he wasn't really fucking with me rapping and like he wasn't into it.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So I was like, fuck you. I'm making a Myspace music page. And he's like, oh, you're going to flirt with guys on Myspace. And I'm like, no, I'm going to grind on MySpace, get my music out there. And so from MySpace, like I just, I literally did not stop going hard. I would sit on MySpace and add people for hours, like, check out my music, check out my music, check out my music, check out my music. And I just like, you know, from there just like hustled and hustled and hustled until I randomly met Rob Deerdeck through MySpace. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yeah. How did you encounter him on there? And was he famous yet? Is he still just a skater at that time? No, he was our, like Rob and Big was already popping. It was actually one of my favorite shows. Because we've had drama on here before. Nice.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We've had a little bit of background on what that whole time was like a little bit, I guess. So drama is actually how like kind of. happened. So basically, I would go and I would add all the top artists on MySpace. And then I would add all their top friends. I figured it was like they might have a manager, somebody important in their top friends. So I would add all the top artists. And drama was, you know, still making beats back then and he was on the top artist because he was like popping from Rob and Big. So I added him. And then in his top friends was like Rob, um, his brother, Big Cat who was also on the show with us, a couple skater homies. And I ended up becoming friends with all of them first. So they led me to
Starting point is 00:06:53 meeting Rob basically. How did he become friends with it? Was it a flirty thing at all at first? You know, not on, not on as much on my part. I think maybe he was trying to blur with me more. But yeah, no, like I was just like I was really, I've always been like about networking and I was just trying to like, I was like, oh, you make beats, like let's work, you know? And then I formed like a friendship with drama and his brother and their homies. Like they became like kind of like my brothers, you know? And then how that conversation start where they were like, yo, like we think that you might be the person to sit here and laugh at viral videos. which a lot of people consider it would be like the best job you could ever have.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Thanks. Well, that's a lot later. Actually, first it was fantasy factor. Right, right, right. Okay. Yeah. So, um, actually, Rob admitted this to me recently. He was like that drama and my boys had said to him like, oh, she thinks she's a rapper.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm like, oh, so they were talking shit. Okay. So Rob then met me. And then Rob met me and realized like I'm very authentic and real. And, you know, and he was like, nope, she's, she's very rapy. Like, she's a rapper. Uh-huh. And so, and I don't know, Rob said from when he met me, like, they had already been thinking about getting a girl on the show.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So I just was, like, funny and kind of, like, fit the mold perfectly, I guess. And they asked me to be on it. That's right. Yeah. And then that, I don't know how that led to ridiculousness. Right. Which is more fun to film because one is, like, action-packed, zany. And, like, one, you're kind of just chilling on the couch, right?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Yeah. Well, I guess I've, I've grown to, like, ridiculousness a lot more now because, you know. I have hair and makeup, which is a big difference in Fantasy Factory. Really? They wouldn't get you dolled up for the show? No, it's a show with all guys, you know. They don't understand, I guess. And then they're like, you're cute.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Like, you don't need it. I'm like, okay, whatever. So filming Fantasy Factory was like being in high school again. Like, every day, like, what do I wear? Got to do my hair and makeup cute, you know? But except it's millions of people seeing you, not just high school. Ridiculousness, you know, it's a better styling budget. And as a girl, that's a great thing to have.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And I think since being on that show, too, maybe people started to think I was hotter because I do have that now. Okay. So I like that part a lot more. Yeah. Was it weird for you when you first got on TV to go from like you had been kind of just, you know, working and trying to become, you know, a musician or whatever? And then all of a sudden you're famous for fucking being on TV, just fucking around in this weird factory all the time. It was very weird. I never, you know, I never wanted to do like reality TV or anything.
Starting point is 00:09:19 But like the day that Rob asked me, I remember. literally had like a little pile of change I scrounged up to go to in and out. And I like kind of looked at my little pile of change and was like, you know, I do need some money. So I'll take the job. So yeah, so I didn't want to, you know, I couldn't be beggars can't be choosy. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, let me take this job see where it leads me. And yeah, I'd never thought I'd, I mean, I've been doing music my whole life. That was always my goal since I was a little girl. I never thought to be famous for just like fucking around and laughing and shit, you know? Right. Had anyone ever told you that they tell you about an interesting laugh
Starting point is 00:09:54 prior to being on TV? Or did that meme start on TV? You know, I try to remember, like, did people ever, like, tell me about, that they liked my, I don't think so. I think it was like, once they heard it on TV, it became a thing. Because, like, I even was asking my friends, I was like, yo, do you guys remember my laugh being the screen? They're like, you always had that laugh. But I'm like, but nobody ever said anything. Nobody ever told me it was a cool laugh or, like, funny, you know? So I think it was after being on TV that like so many people could hear it amplified and like be like, oh, that's a funny laugh. Right. Is there anything else like that? Like shit that people point out that you wouldn't necessarily have known or thought about? You know, not really. I mean, I think it's weird. I think that TV sometimes too, like, especially in the environments I'm in on Rob's shows, I think that they see me as like only like happy and like goofy and
Starting point is 00:10:49 And so I think that maybe if anything, people just didn't get to know really who I am, like, as a whole, which kind of bugs me. Because, yeah, I think that's like one of the biggest setbacks for me. As much as being on the show has been so great for my life and such a fun, like, journey. And I've made a good amount of money off of it. My passion is music. So it's been a big setback for me because people just don't, they don't like get how I'm happy and funny. But like, why is this girl a rapper? Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah. Do you think it's hard to balance that to be taken serious as a musician while also like being on TV and really, you know, only getting to demonstrate. It would be one thing if you're on TV and it was like a reality show all about your life and it sort of shows some kind of depth. But the reality is you don't really get that on TV. It's like on TV they're going to turn you into sort of a cartoon of what you really are. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, it sucks because I think that, you know, like I just told you like a couple things I've been through in my life. You know, things like that.
Starting point is 00:11:47 People don't know. They don't know the hardships I've had to deal with. They don't know the struggle. They don't know my life. I think they see me and like, you know, I got like a kind of like Taylor Swift look. Maybe they imagine like I got a mom and dad like happy holding hands with a golden retriever. And like I grew up in this nice big house or something.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like I know my looks might like come off like that. But like that's not me, you know. So it's very hard for me to, I feel like I couldn't even fully be myself for a while. I feel like now I'm getting to fully be myself because, you know, it's just that's how I want to be. But yeah, it's been hard. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, for example, it's like, I played a receptionist on Fantasy Factory. I wasn't a real receptionist.
Starting point is 00:12:26 When I worked a real receptionist job, you think I was coming to work, like, acting like my little ratchet self? No, I had to be professional and classy because it's a fucking job. So when I go on Fantasy Factory to play a receptionist, obviously I'm going to be, like, sweet and professional and proper. I'm not going to be coming in fucking cursing and, like, smoking blunts. Like I'm a receptionist. That would be tight though.
Starting point is 00:12:49 You can't do that really on TV. That will be tight though. Right. But yeah, exactly. So, you know. I, um, it feels like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:59 when they, they sort of want to turn you into a cartoon to that, but then like the whole thing of being a musician is that you're like trying to sort of demonstrate some kind of depth. Like you're trying to present yourself as something that is, you know, interesting enough that people really want to take, to be interesting enough that people want to take you seriously as an artist or
Starting point is 00:13:15 whatever is it. own specific thing and it's always I feel like now and maybe you were even kind of early on this but now it seems like it's so much more common for an artist to have a podcast or to do vlogs or whatever and that's kind of like something that maybe you were sort of early on because like I remember Joe Bud and them telling him that he was never going to be able to be like doing what he's doing now while he was a rapper and it's like now it feels like it probably wouldn't be that much of a compromise to do both at the same time no totally um I think it's a little bit different with me just because I'm a little white girl and like I don't think people want to accept that I'm
Starting point is 00:13:50 actually like dope at hip hop and like that's really who I am. But like Ludacris said it best when I was on an episode of Fear Factor. He was like, he's like, yeah, he was asking me like what it's like, you know, to transition from from TV to music. And I said, you know, it's weird because sometimes I think when people transition from TV or film to music, they're not accepted as easy, but a lot of people transition from music to acting much easier. And Ludacris goes, yeah, he goes, I used to be a radio host and nobody thought they would be like, you're not going to be a rapper, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like, what are you talking about? And he goes, and now look at me, 20 million albums sold. So he's like, you know, you just got to keep pushing and at the end of the day, people will finally see you for what they're supposed to see you for. Right. I mean, there's sort of like a, like people want to have like an easy like white girl stereotype to kind of pick on,
Starting point is 00:14:39 especially in rap just because, you know, that is sort of the images that like, you know, a white girl or whatever that they, sort of get this like preferred special treatment and stuff like that. So it's kind of like when you're when you become famous without fully putting your entire personality on display through whatever you're becoming famous for, then it just opens that up for people to be able to paint you as what they want you to be. Yeah. Crazy. Do you feel like somebody like Charlemagne when he tried to come at you on that thing? You think he was just taking like the easiest shot possible or how did you feel about that
Starting point is 00:15:11 whole situation? That was very confusing for me, honestly, because it started because he had randomly tweeted one day that I was a whack rapper. That means you were checking for me, one, to even have to formulate an opinion, you must have listened to something, right? So you were checking for me and went out of your way to tweet that I was whack. So when he came on ridiculousness, something came up about him saying, oh, something about his opinions.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And I said, well, that's exactly. I said, just because it's your opinion, don't make it a fact. And that's kind of what started our little thing. And I think that part of me thinks he went at me more to like, I don't know if it was to push me or what. Because I feel like secretly like he likes me and fucks with me. You know what I mean? It's like you were checking for my music in the first place. Why?
Starting point is 00:16:00 You know what I mean? I've never, I've watched so many breakfast club interviews. I've never seen Charlemagne as happy as full of glee than he was in that display. Like he was stomping his feet. He just looked so full of joy to like actually just have a chance to roast somebody on somebody else's show. It was kind of crazy just to see how much fun he was having. I know. It was.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I don't I don't get it. I don't really get it. Yeah, but as I said, you know, opinions and opinion. We all got them just like a fucking asshole. So it's like we all got him. It doesn't it doesn't make you any better than the next because you have. have a certain opinion, you know? And, um, I think that, especially when it comes to music, it's like you, I don't know why his opinion on, on my music should really matter to anybody.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Cause it's like he's a, he's a radio host, you know, he, if he wants to go and be a rapper, just like ludicrous, go do it, bro. You know, why are you got to sit here and hate on every rapper? Yeah. Like, it's weird too. Like, we've been having this conversation and rap a lot lately because like, for instance, Swayley put out a song featuring Drake. And then Joe Bunin, who is admittedly, like a big Swaylie and Drake fan. He comes out and basically just says this song is fucking horrible. He went in on the song. He hated so much.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And the Swayley sort of put out this whole video being like, why the fuck are you talking about me? I don't give a fuck about you, etc., etc. And it kind of raises that whole question and rap. Like, you know, is it okay to just have an opinion about somebody's craft? And like, is it reasonable to expect the artist not to get offended when this is their craft that they worked so hard on?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. I mean, it's like I just don't get why. First of all, it's like, there's been a couple songs that I think are trash, but like I don't go out of my way to like post about it. I'm just go on and find a fucking song that I like. You know, it's like the same thing when you go to shop for a car. I think I got this from a comedian. I'm like spitting it like it's my knowledge. But it's like you go to look for a car and you don't sit there and diss all the cars.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You don't like like, fuck that car. I don't want that piece of shit. You fucking find the car you like. You know what I mean? So it's like, why do you got to go out of your way to state opinions of shit you don't like? just go and find what you like and focus on that. I think that's what everybody needs to do in the world would be a much more peaceful place. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The internet has really empowered that because it's like if you were famous in the 80s, you would never really know if people didn't like you unless like they wrote a letter to the newspaper or I don't know. To the newspaper. Somehow like if they went outside MTV and like held a sign or something, like it would be really hard for you to let a celebrity know that you don't like them back then. And now it's like they just pull up to your Instagram, drop some comments. Yeah. But at the same time, it's kind of like anyone, regardless of if you're beloved or not beloved, anyone is getting so many negative comments that it's almost hard to even take it serious,
Starting point is 00:18:50 you know, because there's so much positivity and so much hate for me, at least. Like, I don't see a negative comment and really think twice about it unless it's really, really, really well written. Yeah, I'm kind of the same. And when it's really, then sometimes I'm like, dang, they're kind of smart, but I still don't agree. Or like maybe they know me. Yeah. That's a weird part.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, yeah. It's like, damn, they really knew how to hurt my feelings there. That's happened to me a couple times. I'm like, yo, these people, like, they read my mind. They really hit me where it hurt. But for the most part, I try to, you know, I tend to go and look at somebody who leaves a negative comments page. And they tend to have very little followers. Private, 41 followers.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Exactly. And then I just, I kind of just feel bad. You know, it's like, I feel bad for, like, I can't name all my friends. I got so many friends, you know? And it's like for people, there is people out there who only have 20 friends. And I can understand where, you know, maybe some loneliness or something like that could make you just say mean things or something. I don't know. I think it's just like, so I just started to, I used to go off super hard.
Starting point is 00:19:50 But then I'm like, dang, I might be really hurting this person way more than they're hurting me, you know? So it's just like I try my best to ignore them unless they say something really fucking stupid and I need to check them, then I'll check them. When you are going through something like that Charlie Man clip gone viral, like what's your mentality on it? actually staying on Twitter looking at it? Are you pissed off? Are you just like whatever? No, I definitely wouldn't look at it. I mean, like, when that clip went viral,
Starting point is 00:20:13 I actually was kind of thankful that Charlemagne originally posted that tweet calling me a whack rapper because that would have never happened. And then I wouldn't have this viral moment where I was able to tell the world what a lot of people needed to know. You know, a lot of people sleep on me. And it's like, I have worked with legends. You know, people like, Be Real. You can watch our Smokebox episode.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Even Be Real goes, how many OGs got to give you the co-sign for these kids? kids to get it. I don't know. Somebody tell me, you know? So it's like, that's why I spit those facts to Charlemagne because a lot of people do sleep on me and a lot of these kids, kids do hate. And it's like, I have legends in rap who fuck with me. So why, you know, why does Charlemains or any of these kids' opinions matter? And I felt like I needed that, I needed to use that moment to state a couple facts because ridiculousness is a great platform that I don't really ever get that chance to talk about my music. You know, we've got 400-something episodes, maybe three or four,
Starting point is 00:21:08 have been really, like, heavily talked about my music. So I kind of was happy that that moment happened. You know what the craziest thing about that clip is? Because we just watched it earlier is that Charlemagne says, he says, everybody wants to mention Drake and Nikki, but nobody wants to mention Little Twist and Tiger. Tiger, like, two years ago, it was like a joke. Like, his career was over.
Starting point is 00:21:27 And now, like, I was just in England. And he was, like, fucking super high up on the bill at this huge festival they were doing. and everybody's going insane in the crowd. Yeah. No, well, even when Charlemagne said that, though, he was still kind of popping. It's like, yo, and he doesn't know anything about the politics. There's a lot of shit, which I don't even want to get into, but a lot of people don't know a lot of politics behind certain things of people
Starting point is 00:21:48 who were signed to young money and things like that. A lot of people don't know things, so they don't know the struggles that people like me or Taiga or a lot of other artists who were young money affiliated have went through. So Charlemagne's just speaking blindly like a bunch of fucking people do. So are you looking at your experience spent under the cash money umbrella with a negative viewpoint? Because we've heard a lot of people walk away from that situation saying negative things. And we've seen a lot of people walk away honestly saying positive things. Maybe not a lot, but some.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Well, so it's crazy. So I was young money. It's such a long story. Kind of a good chance. Wayne is the shit. I love him for life. He gave me the co-sign. let's just say there were some complications with him and Birdman from what I heard that might
Starting point is 00:22:37 have pertained to me. And wasn't clear who owned what percentage of your career or something like that? No, so this is what happened. So I had actually, I had like some old management. I was offered a cash money deal. And my old management and I was in a deal polo to dawn at the time, they were really trying to push me in to do this deal. And so I had, you know, like a.
Starting point is 00:23:02 a lawyer friend and somebody like look over the deal and they're like this isn't that great of a deal like um and i wasn't a really bad production deal with polo which i love him to death but his lawyer goes hard shout out to his lawyer because his lawyer fucking goes hard for him right um and and i didn't really know what i signed you know so basically people were like you can't go into this cash money deal you'll end up fucking bankrupt like it's such a it's such a bad situation you can't have two deal bad deals stacked on top of which exactly one bad production deal stacked on top of the label deal thing yeah so so so then I met some other people who were directly linked to Wayne and Young Money. And they go, yo, Wayne is going to fucking love you.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Let's bring you to me, Wayne. And so in my eyes, and maybe if Birdman himself hears this, I never meant to disrespect them. I wanted to be young money cash money. You know, that's it. But I was going to be dragged into a bad situation unless I got out of that polo deal. And so the people who work directly with Wayne were like, Wayne's going to want you to be young money for sure, which you're going to be cash money anyways. You know it's going to be all good. We're all family.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And from my smart perspective, I don't know if this is what happened, but I think maybe like Birdman might have been offended or something. And then, I don't know, next thing you know, we hear like it's taking a long time for my deal to get done. And then after it's taking a long time for my deal to get done, then we start hearing that Wayne and Birdman are beefing. There was actually a TMZ article that leaked saying that I was the reason. So when that came out, I kind of started crying for a second
Starting point is 00:24:29 because I was like, wait, I don't want to be breaking up fucking Wayne and Birdman. Birdman like these are fucking legends I look up to since I'm a kid you know believe that was there anything that would indicate that outside of that article um no but just from everything I've dealt with internally that's maybe I it just seemed like through us through a stem of events that's I don't know I couldn't figure it out like that's what I felt like maybe happens holy shit um but yeah like Wayne is the shit he wanted to sign me he wanted to get the deal done but like things were just being held up and the next thing you know him and birdman are having issues and and it was just like a lot
Starting point is 00:24:59 So I tried to, you know, to stay down, stay reppping the young money name as long as I could. And then people- During a very complicated time in young money history. Very complicated time, yeah. And so, and I'm on an international TV show, and like, it was getting to a point where it was like, I need a label. Like, I don't have ways of getting my music out here in these countries. I'm on TV. Like, if you're with, you know, if you're with a big label like cash money, they're, they would have my music playing in all these countries, you know. And that's a little bit harder to do independently to reach the same networks where my TV show is.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Right. And I believe if I was with the right label and I reached, you know, all those same. areas where we're popping on TV, I think it could be a very, a big movement, you know? Right, definitely. Did you feel like it was going to be tough to exist in that world, too, when they have, like, Nikki Minaj and Drake, like the biggest artist in the world? It's going to be tough to get attention, right? Yeah, that's a whole other issue.
Starting point is 00:25:55 I actually had the same management as Wayne and Nikki. And from what I heard, conflicts of interest, they had to stop managing me. Really? Do you think Nikki was jealous? I don't know if she's jealous. I don't know if she just supports other women that much. You don't think she does? this has been said about her a lot in the past by other women
Starting point is 00:26:10 so don't be sure. Well, I was never vocal about it until Cardi went hard. And I was like, fuck it. If Cardi's going to go hard and blast her, why shouldn't I blast what I've been through? Really? So what specifically do you think she did besides just not wanting the same management as you? Probably. I don't, I mean, maybe she thought that I would like take their attention or something, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I have no idea. I was, I looked up to Nikki. I thought I was like, yes, I'm about to be friends with her. I was so fucking excited. and then, you know, then come to find out she hates me. That's a hard thing when you look up to them. Specifically? Yeah, people told me that.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Wow, that's crazy. That's going to be such a weird feeling, huh? It's really weird. And so now it's Barty Gang to death. Oh, yeah, I love Cardi. She's the best. No, but I've had other rappers, too, like, you know, Lil Kim, like I just met her at the VMAs, and she was like, I love you.
Starting point is 00:27:00 She's like, you're so dope. Trina even gave me just a big shout out. I'm actually going to drop it in a little video recap soon. where Trina was just like, yo, like people will be sleeping on you. Like, I love your music. It's dope. And, you know, I think that's why Trina has the title of The Badest Bitch, because I think that's what makes you a bad bitch is supporting other women.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Right. Well, that's good. Yep. So you plan, do you, have you ever thought about that about assigning a upcoming female artist to your shit? Are you too focused on your own career? I'm still trying to pop my shit off. I mean, I have a couple friends who are actually, you know, starting to do music. and, you know, I've been helping them as much as I can.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And I'm very much about that. I just want to, right now, it's almost like I feel like I need to get to that next level. So I can be like that home girl that puts on a couple people, you know, because I would love to do that. I just think that I need to be in a better place to do that, you know? So you were never formally signed with cash money. It just didn't really work out. No, there was never a deal in place. It took forever and ever to a point where I was like, am I just like being bamboozled?
Starting point is 00:28:03 this is ever going to get done? And I've had a bunch of people say that to me in the music industry too, is that what will always happen and they see it happen over and over and over. And it's not specifically exactly what was going on yours, but something will be hot. And then the label gets to work on doing it. The deal takes six months. And all of a sudden the shit is not quite hot like it was.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Exactly. And you sort of miss out on this window where you might have been able to really make something shake. That's what I felt happened to me. It was, it was, you know, unfortunate. But the fortunate thing is I do have. something like ridiculousness where it's ongoing never ending and I was able to keep keep riding on out and using being seen to my advantage to where I still keep it
Starting point is 00:28:46 going yeah that's actually there's such a crazy opportunity with that sort of platform because when I was talking to Rob one of the or not Rob but drama one of the craziest things was how he had this story about how he was able to make young and reckless pop off because of the TV show and any normal TV show you wouldn't be allowed to like wear your own brand but because rob was out here rocking dc and monster energy logos everywhere the contracts had to be different so that like opened the door for drama to bring his own shit onto the thing and boom you create a huge brand off of the back of that that's pretty crazy to me yeah no i think it's sick it is a unique situation because i think because rob's an athlete
Starting point is 00:29:22 sponsor about those people you know i think that that's why they were able to kind of like break that that whole thing where you can't wear like all the logos and stuff on tv and yeah drama got really lucky with that. It was a very good platform. That's a lick right there. Yeah. Yeah. Is there like drama took a step away from it for the most part? Is there ever a party that is kind of like, I don't even want to do this show anymore. I want to like do something different with my life? Um, I mean, I, I, like I said, I want to, I want to do music mainly. That's my main thing. Um, and I would love to get into acting too, but I feel like the show has become like such a big part of my life. Like, I couldn't see myself like, I'm going to stay on it. And, um, and I would love to stay on it. And,
Starting point is 00:30:02 until it's done. You know, I'm never going to leave it. Like, even if my music popped off, I would still try to find a way to make it work unless they were like, yo, this isn't going to fucking work. You got to go. It's probably pretty easy, too. Can you, like, film a whole season in like a couple weeks or something like that? It's probably not that time consuming, right?
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's not that time consuming. But for me, it seems like it's always falling when something important comes up for me. I've missed like several tour opportunities. I've missed several music gigs, especially because we film on a Saturday, which prevents me from flying for gigs on Friday nights. It's a long story. Anyways, yeah. So as much as it's a great.
Starting point is 00:30:32 great platform for me musically. It has set me back from a lot of tours and gigs. Wow, that's too good. It's all good, but I make good money and I have fun. Right, definitely. How do you feel about like the state of female hip hop right now because it's more booming than it's ever been? It's kind of a great moment. Like if you like listening to girls rap, there's way more dope girls rapping than there's ever been before. I think it's amazing. It reminds me when I was little. When I was little, there was a bunch of female rappers too. It was like ladies night. Dry spell besides Nikki for a long time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Well, after what I dealt with, I'm wondering, like, Nikki was out here just like stopping everybody from fucking coming up for a while or something. I don't know. Let us know, Barb's. Yeah, let us know. I'm sure you watching. We know you, we know you be lurking, bitch. This is the second one this week.
Starting point is 00:31:17 They're going to have to watch because I interviewed this girl, Mandy, from the horrible decisions podcast. And she had, she, she, what she said about Nikki made what used to say, it looked like nothing. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I used to be Nikki's fan. So it was, uh, I've never could have hate. for somebody who I used to bump. I definitely stopped bumping her though
Starting point is 00:31:36 when I found out she didn't fuck with me. I bet she don't like me either. I mean, I don't know if she knows me, but if she did, I bet she would hate me. So maybe I should throw away her CDs. Really? Why?
Starting point is 00:31:44 Have you said some bad things about her? No, actually, I'd like defend her. But I also just feel like I'm like realistic. It's like, let's like look at, that seems to be the problem with Nikki. She doesn't want anybody commenting or critiquing on what she's doing. And it's kind of like, no. Like if you go on the radio and you give some wild rant
Starting point is 00:32:00 and people feel like you were acting, crazy, people are just going to say it. Like, that's their right. And that's just how it is. And she seems like she has a hard time accepting that. Yeah, I feel that. Well, I feel like we veered off from the main thing, though, is how do I feel about the state of female rap now?
Starting point is 00:32:15 And yeah, I love it. I think it's great. I think that girls are all finally teaming up. And they need to team up even more, though, because, like, you see guys always collaborating with each other doing, like, joint albums and stuff. And, like, you know, you'll see four male rappers on a song together. you don't see that as much with girls. I think we really need to come together more and collaborate more
Starting point is 00:32:36 because I think as a unit, you know, women would be stronger in hip-hop if we worked with each other more, you know. I definitely think it's still hard as fuck for a white girl, especially when they don't got a big ass like Iggy. You know, I got that against her? I got a little booty. I got a little booty for being petite. But she used to have a little booty, too.
Starting point is 00:32:57 She got one installed. Oh, okay. Well, I'm not here to get into any of that. But yeah, you know, yeah, it's still kind of hard for white girls. I definitely think, yeah. You're all natural, though, huh? All natural. I get Botox in my forehead, though.
Starting point is 00:33:14 That's it. Nah, I don't count. Yeah, every girl in L.A. I have to know. I got like a small forehead and I'm like so expressive that like it like causes this like permanent fucking wrinkle where that like makes me look like a pug. Okay. So that's why I get it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And then literally it like stopped it. It like saved me from getting it. I used to have like a little wrinkle there before I started getting it and then now's gone. Wow. Yeah. You know what? I was recently told about and pardon me if this is too offensive, but I was like, had girls tell me that if a girl's ever going down on you and she can't look up at you,
Starting point is 00:33:45 she can't make eye contact with you. It's because she got too much Botox in her forehead and she can't make her eyes look up. I'm like, wow. That's what that is. Oh my God. That's so funny. So now we know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I just like had a visual. Okay. Anyways. Something to think about. Especially because I know what that face of the strong Botox looks like. So yeah, I had a strong visual there. Was it weird for you to have one of your family members blow up in the rap game this year? Huh?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Boy Boy, Boy West Coast. No? I just assumed you were related. I'm sorry. I feel like, listen, no disrespect, boy, boy, West Coast. If you're watching this. Bro, you know who I am, bro. What man throws my West Coast in their rap name after knowing that I've been out here for,
Starting point is 00:34:36 well, you're trying to get my attention, you want to date? What's up? What's up? I think maybe that's why he put it in his name. He looked like he might be a fan. He definitely does with those eyebrows. He was following me when I went to go look at his page. He was.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't know. I don't know. Just credit your influences, boy, boy. Like, if you're out here taking swag. Exactly. Credit me, bro. Why don't you tell some people you got West Coast in your name because I inspired you or something? Like I checked this time.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I was like, maybe he's been rapping longer to me. I don't know. Let me do my research. I did my research. I'm like, nope, I've definitely been rapping like ages before this guy. You think you got to have bars on that song? Do do, do, do. You think you would have been able to get on that remix?
Starting point is 00:35:14 It would cool if you co-signed it like super early on. Yo, I didn't get, I didn't hear it early on enough. Otherwise, I might have. I actually think it's a really catchy song. I get why it's blowing up, you know. One of the weirdest songs ever, really. It's a very catchy beat like, do, do, do, do, do. You know, it's just like.
Starting point is 00:35:28 just want to like bop to it you know so I get it but no official relationship no we're not related um or dating no no um but yeah
Starting point is 00:35:41 what's up boy boy west coast why you got my name he couldn't use another round of clout so I think we're helping him out right here if he wants to like respond or something that kind of actually the boy boy boy west coast thing got weird real quick because that girl leaked DMs of him Connor the hard are
Starting point is 00:35:57 yeah and she also was not even black. I think she was white or Hispanic or something. So that was kind of weird too. Oh. Oh, it was crazy. So, okay. Yeah, I heard something like that, but that's not good.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah, that was ugly. Reading those kind of made you rethink the whole thing. Like, oh, damn, boy, boy. Yeah. Were you close with Big Black? Not as close as like the rest of the guys, but like we were cool when we were on the show. We were the only ones who smoked. So, like, after Fantasy Factory, we would, like, smoke together sometimes.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But I wasn't super close with him. But it was pretty devastating when he died. I was probably the saddest, just because I'm a girl. And, like, I was also a fan of Robin Big. And I felt, like, being a fan of the show, it's crazy. Because, like, when I first got on Fantasy Factory, I was, like, you know, I was very nervous. And then I got used to it. And then when Big Black came on, because he hadn't been on, I was,
Starting point is 00:36:56 nervous again. And then I realized, oh my God, it's because, like, I haven't worked with him yet. Like, I'm used to these guys now. But I had kind of like a fan moment when he first came back on our show because I watched that show as a teenager. Um, so yeah, I was like really, I was just really sad. Uh, I was really sad about it. I felt like mostly the most sad part was that he left a small daughter behind. So that, like, when I just think about those type of things, it makes me kind of emotional. I'm a girl in that, in that sense. I get emotional. Yeah. Yeah, that is terrible. Poor guy. Yeah. That's awful. Um, I've seen you. Um, I've seen you. coming out and sort of link in with some of the up-and-coming talent out there in the game.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You got new videos of Nestle and Dax? What's the game plan? What made you want to connect with them? You know, I felt like I've done the songs, you know, like I went off in my rants to Charlie Mane about with a lot of big people. And there's a lot of up-and-coming people who are really popping, you know, and I think that a lot of people don't, maybe because they're not signed to a major label or whatever. So, like, Nestle, I was a fan of his.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I was always I was bumping his music He's good He doesn't get credit he deserves Yeah no I think he's fire And so I reached out to him And I was like yo I got this song That I think he'd be really dope on And then same thing with Dax
Starting point is 00:38:06 I was his fan And I actually got connected with him Through riveting Who did the music video for us And yeah I felt like it was just It's cooler to work with people Like you know a lot of like my TV fans even
Starting point is 00:38:17 Were like oh I don't know who these guys are But like I fuck with them And so I kind of like in a way Putting people on to my fans too And yeah, I just wanted to work with artists that like I actually like like like myself And listen to not like I don't like everybody else I worked with but you know what I mean right yeah No, I just think it's cool because it's kind of like somebody like dach and nestley where it's actually gonna probably positively affect their career to even be put in a position where they get more eyeballs on them yeah yeah for sure yeah no and I feel like they both have really like um you know kind of like cult like fall loins like their fans are great both of them so
Starting point is 00:38:51 when I knew going into working with both of them I was like, I know that this is also a good thing for me because they've got great fan bases. And so, you know, it's good to work with people who have great fan bases like that who, you know, are going to support the song. That's dope. Yeah. Yeah. Compare going viral with the Charlemagne thing to going viral for the thing outside of the nightclub. Let's talk about that because that, you know, we got to admit a lot of people out there had some LOLs. Thanks to that one. Oh, my God. Seriously, that was the worst night in my life. Really? Well, it was just really random.
Starting point is 00:39:24 First of all the way I was dressed, let me just break it down. Because a moment like that made me look so horrible. And like I'm really, I'm a hardworking person. Like I'm out here like really. I work really hard. And so to get only shine for moments like that hurts me. Like so that day I actually auditioned to be the ratchet white girl in 50 shades of black, which was the spoof of 50 shades of gray that Marlon Wayne's was doing.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Not a porn spoof. No. That's what it sounds like. No, but it was out. I don't know if you've seen it. It's like a spoof. You know how they do all the spoof movies, the Wayne's Brother. So it was like the spoof of 50 Shades of Gray.
Starting point is 00:39:58 It's called 50 Shades of Black. And I guess, you know, my agents, they're like, oh, we know Chanel. Like, she could do the Ratchet White Girl. But they meant, like, Ratchet Looks, too. So I was, like, a little too cute for the role, which is what Marlon said and why I didn't get it. So I had just auditioned for that. And then went straight after that. My two friends had just moved back from New York to my best friends.
Starting point is 00:40:18 So the girls, we got together right after I had, like, a successful, good audition. You know, like, I auditioned with Marlon Waynes in the room. room and he loved it, but he literally was like, you're too cute for this. Like, we have more, if you see the girl who got the role, you'll understand. No disrespect. She was a great actress. She was ratchet. She, you know, had the more ratchet, like, looks.
Starting point is 00:40:36 A little bit more trailer park than you? Yeah. So, so I went straight from the audition to having shots with my girls, which lasted far too long, which we ended up at One Oak on like a weeknight. Like, my girls don't have kids and shit. Like, I don't even know how this happened. So I'm in One Oak. It's like a dead night.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Nobody's there. Like, I'm friends with Richie Akiva who owns One Oak. Like, I know the people there. Like, they always treat me like royalty there. So the security guard comes up to me and I'm like wasted and he's like, you need to go. Because apparently some girl complained I spilled a drink on her. I've had so many drinks spilled on me. Like I would never try to get somebody kicked out for that.
Starting point is 00:41:11 First time in a nightclub. Yeah, literally is it your first fucking time out? So she tried to have me removed not knowing who I am and the security doesn't know who I am. And like, I'm cool with the owners of the club, whatever. So I just like ignore him. I'm like, dude, like stop. You play and like, come on. Like, I performed here before.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Like, what are you doing? And this guy doesn't know I am literally picks me the fuck up. Security? Yes. What? Takes me out. So my one home girl comes out with me. Then I have an Uber who's like, I'm not making two stops.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And I got so pissed because I was already so embarrassed of being kicked out. I have the little mini water bottle that took me on the table and I chuck it at the Uber. And an off-duty cop comes up to me and grabs me. Oh, my God. I'm like, I said, I thought it was a random man. Like I was like, get off me. I said, what are you doing? And he goes, you can't fucking throw a drink out of car like that.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And I said, get, and I hit him. I said, get the fuck off me thinking it's like a random duty. He was like an off duty cop in a security outfit, but he's in a security outfit. I'm like, get off me, bro. He goes, you just hit an officer. I'm like, what? Like, it was like the twilight zone. And then next thing you know, I'm being arrested.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And they're just like, have me handcuffed while TMZ is filming as if like the cops wanted their shine or something. It was so fucking weird. Like it was just, it was a night. Like I didn't even get charged with anything. It was like so stupid. Wait,
Starting point is 00:42:29 but you're talking about a different one. You're not talking about the one where you're, Oh shit. So now I just made myself real stupid. No, but I did watch that one earlier today. Well, I'd be wild in people.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Sorry. No, but what happened in the poppy one because, and also I want to know what little pump is still doing. Oh my God. Wait, so listen to this.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Little pump. Because I seen him, I was watching one of your vlogs where you're like party in Vegas. That was not Little Pump in the video. No, I know, little pump is what I call him because you said, that's not little pump. And it's just so funny because I never said it's like, it's little.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's kind of because it's like, it's little. Right. It just made me laugh. And you know, you know what's funny is when that came out, I thought, because I'm good friends with Little Pump. I'm cool with him too. I was just partying with the Miami. Oh, okay, because I was thinking about sending it to him and I'm like, nah. Probably everybody already sent him that.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And then when I saw him like six months later, I showed him and he's dying laughing. Like he thought it was so funny. I think we might have had a comment. I was like really fucked that when we were just. partying to Miami, but I think we kind of like talked about this little bit, me, him and his homie Brandon. We were like talking about it. But that night was another, it was just, I was pissed off, right?
Starting point is 00:43:31 So this is what happened. I came with a group of girls and all my girls are cute, okay? I don't roll when nobody's not cute. And the guy at the door goes, Chanel, come on, come on, you're good. He goes, just bring the two cute ones. I go, what? And I almost felt like my girls heard it too. And then I went into defense mode because like for me, like when a friend is like,
Starting point is 00:43:50 has their feelings hurt or like somebody says something like that to one of my friends like I feel like it like hurts me you know and I just snapped and I was like what do you mean the two cute ones I said oh my girls are cute bro I was like it's me like what the fuck you talking about like let us in and then the security starts trying to get involved too and he's like yo you need to chill did I said you need to fucking chill like nobody's doing anything I'm talking to the promoter like get out of here you know and then I see my boy jj walk up with my homie apple from black eyepes and I go up to them to talk to them on the side after I had already walked away and the security goes oh now you trying to sneak in.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I'm like, bro, I'm talking to my boy Apple, who I have a fucking song with, shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? Like, they're just being disrespectful. And that's why I started going off on him. First, they tell me that my girls aren't cute. Then the fucking security is treating me like I'm just like a nobody, like, like, like, like I'm trying to sneak in.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I don't have to sneak in any club. Like, if I wanted to, I could have went in and left my girls, but I'm not that type of fucking friend. It's crazy. You know what that shit kind of slides in nightclubs, like just where like they're basically, like, they're just not letting girls in based on how they look 100%. And it is a weird thing when it becomes vocalized. Like, I've heard that before too.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But that's why it's like, then they put me on TMZ, two guys talking about it. Like most sexist thing ever. Why does it take two guys to fucking talk to me? Anyways. And on TMZ, I'm like interviewing with them. They're asking about it. Like, why would you go off with the security like that? How rude?
Starting point is 00:45:06 I said, how rude? How sexist is it to say only bring my two cute friends and how mean is that? And speaking of sexism, why am I fucking talking to two guys? Are like, are people stupid? Like, do you think that I just snap in you? yell for no reason. I'm literally famous for laughing and smiling. I'm clearly a fucking happy, nice person. You know what I mean? So I'm not going to just go off on somebody for no reason, like a psychopath. It's because somebody said something really rude to me and to my girls.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And the funniest thing about it is like, oh, you can't get in the club. And it's like, people don't even understand. Like, no, I can get in any club I want. I'm cool with fucking everyone, bro. I was in a situation where I couldn't get in all my friends and I'm that good of a friend that I did not go in and that's why I went off on them because they were being rude. Right. So, yeah. I'm happy we just cleared this up. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I'm glad that we got to sort of talk about it. You haven't talked about it publicly before now? Not really, no. Oh, okay. Kind of, like, maybe like, well, when I did the TMZ thing, they interviewed me after, which is, like, what I said is so weird. Like, they had two guys interviewing me. I'm like, why does it take two guys to talk to me?
Starting point is 00:46:11 What, y'all can't take me? Like, let me talk to one person. Do you feel like it is, like, like, people are sort of. aiming to get that kind of like viral exposed moment with you because your public character is like just this like nice fun happy go loving chicks so people love to like find out aha she's actually mean exactly that's what it is i think i think that like people see like i'm a nice person i'm happy and i also am working really hard and actually have talent and like i don't know what it is we're in a society as far as media goes where they want to find the people that they can easily tear down
Starting point is 00:46:47 And let's be honest, I don't come from, I don't come from some rich family. I don't come from the Cyrus family or the Jenner Kardashian family. I don't have the type of heavy weight people behind me and PR who are going to stop shit like that, you know? Otherwise, they'd be attacking all those people too, the same way. It's that I'm an easy target, you know what I mean? And like they love to tear people down. It brings views and ratings and they do it to people like me who are easy targets in my opinion. You know Kylie?
Starting point is 00:47:17 Not well kind of but like I'm not friends with her She's been on ridiculousness That could be a good look You'd go be her new bestie Jordan's out of here She need a new bestie Yo me and Kylie We would probably get along really well
Starting point is 00:47:30 Like I follow her No like I follow her See like we like she always like playing little songs And her snaps I'm like oh she got good taste Like we always like the same music and stuff Like similar style you know So I think we would be friends
Starting point is 00:47:42 Kylie was always bumping my boy X Before he passed which was actually huge for us at the time because we could not believe that somebody as famous as her was fucking with him. That was mind-blowing at the time. Yeah. Okay, so what are you,
Starting point is 00:47:55 what's, you've been working on lately? You had these few videos drop over the past couple weeks, anything else in particular that really stands out that you're sort of putting a lot of your energy into? Yes, another video dropping this week on my birthday. Solo or you got another rapper on it? No, it's solo and I'm singing actually.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So, it's like melodic, like, you know, It's like singing, it's like rap singing. It's still, like, you got to hear it. I mean, it's still me. It's like still hard Chanel, but like soft at the same time. Okay. And I'm really proud of this song. Like, this song has so many, it has a lot of different meanings behind it.
Starting point is 00:48:30 I feel like it's kind of one of those songs, though, for my fans, I want them to listen to it and kind of interpret their own meaning. But for me, like, I wrote it about basically, like, a lot of fake shit going on. with, you know, Instagram and all these people trying to be famous and, you know, everybody's doing things for clout and likes. And I'm just trying to get out there and like take off, but like I'm not trying to do all that, you know? I'm trying to do it the honest, like dope way. And so that's what I'm talking about in the song.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But when you listen to it, though, you can maybe get other meanings. So I want my fans to just listen to it and relate to it however they do. And then I just dropped my clothing line, which is called LOL cartel. Really? I kind of like that. The name was inspired by Red Man. I don't know if you saw my Sharon Stone video. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:18 No, I saw it, but Red Man, what about it? You got to watch my Sharon Stone video. I think I did, but I think I'm still missing it. So there's a little scene where him and Michael Rapoporter are in acting. And it's like we redo like the basic instinct scene, like kind of like a spoof of it. And so basically he's like, he's like, Michael Rapoport's like, tell me who you're working with. You know, like they're like the detectives. And then Redman goes, I think she with the L.O.
Starting point is 00:49:43 cartel. It was so funny. Like, first of all, seeing them film it live. Like, everybody on set could not hold their laughs in. Like, it was so, I've never, like, it's, it was so hard to hold my laughing in. But that's what inspired it because I really feel like that's my thing, you know, like, I'm, I'm the LOL cartel.
Starting point is 00:50:01 It's kind of a mix of, like, cute and hard. You know what I mean? The name, it's really me in a whole. But it doesn't just stand for laugh out loud. It sounds for live, love, and laugh out loud. And it's all about positivity. It's a unisex clothing brand. It's in Zoomies.
Starting point is 00:50:16 You can get it in Zoomies. Yeah, all across the country. But yeah, it's unisex. So it's like some of, there's a couple designs. Maybe the guys might not rock. I want to have some more for girls. But for the most part, everything is like styles that guys and girls can rock. And the sizing is goes for like from small girls up to like big dudes.
Starting point is 00:50:32 That's tight. Yeah. I want it. My goal is to see the LOL cartel get bigger than the Mexican drug cartels. That's my goal too. Trust me. For real. You know, like if we could.
Starting point is 00:50:43 sort of replace the murder and the the fentanyl and all this stuff that they're doing. If we could replace that with just some laughter and positivity, boom, we're good, right? Exactly. There you go. And laughter is like your thing. That's kind of your brand. Yeah. No, I mean, it's, it's definitely my thing.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That's how I've always used comedy to cope with, you know, a lot of, a lot of the sad shit in my life. I always turn on some stand-up comedy or like one of my favorite movies, how high, Pineau Express. You know, and I love to just laugh to get through things. My mission this week is to see how high to because it can. came out on the E.T. Wait. Is it how it's your three?
Starting point is 00:51:16 No, two. Three? Three. Oh, MTV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It came out on MTV. They played it on a Saturday. DC Young Fly and Lil Yadi.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I don't know why it didn't come out in theaters, but I got to watch it and find out for myself. I want to watch it too, but I was a little sad because Little Yachty admit when he was on ridiculousness that he don't even smoke. But he was here. How he was in a cast him? He was here yesterday and he admitted that he did smoke on the movie.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And that he had smoked various other times. I think when you guys. had him a little early, right? Yeah, maybe he was like scared because it's ridiculousness, more corporate or something. I don't know. Maybe he was scared to admit it. Yeah, I don't think he's scared of like losing his target deal. But when I first met him, like when he first came out, I think he like absolutely had not smoked weed. And I think he's just sort of, you know, you hang out on me goals long enough. It's like you're going to hit the blunt. Exactly. Yeah. Well, I mean, you've probably been high just from contact from all the people you kick it with in this industry. Like there's no way to not be high.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You still getting high? Yes. Nice. Always. That's good. I got to gift you some of this no jump cannabis that we have here. These are all empty. We gotta fucking get some full ones. What kind is it? Is it Indica? Or like- Hybrids.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yes, that's my favorite. Really? Yeah, I love hybrids. Indica is like too dead. Really? And Sativa sometimes I think when I smoke Sativa, I get more like paranoid. I start having like these like, you know what I mean? Like these like almost paranoid thoughts and I start stress like thinking about crazy things.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Like hybrid is like the perfect high. No, Sativa is like K2. It'll have you run around naked in the street. It's like PCP really. I got it. I got it. Okay. You're about to light that up.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Damn, I'm like, I want to smoke with you, but I also don't want to get you sick. You got vitamins or something? Vitamins. I've been taking so. That's really the key to, like, fighting off sickness is this vitamin. I got to stop half smoking these jars because I can only find one full one to give her, but I guess, you know, that'll have to do, huh? But we can smoke this wood after for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Let's get it. Dude, I feel like a lot of people are going to, like, people who might have sort of fallen for the Chanel West Coast meme of you being a hothead or some shit. I think they're going to see this and be like, you know what? She actually has a cool shit. I hope so. I really do. I don't know what all your fans are like, but hopefully they're cool.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Some of them are fucking crazy. Crazy enough to smash that like button. Let's get it. You see what we just did there? I don't know. What the fuck? Where did that come from? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:27 This is what you're all smoking. Stems. Wait, I want to smell this. Oh, it smells good. I'm assuming. Oh, fire. See? We got a video coming out showing our whole grow operation.
Starting point is 00:53:37 People are going to lose it. Our shit has fucking grown in this place. It's like a fucking crazy hospital full. of weed. Nice. Can I maybe do a photo shoot there? 100% if you want to drive like two, three hours up north. Yeah. Oh, it's up north? Yeah. Fuck. I thought I was like maybe down here in LA somewhere. I actually posted a photo in it today and people were freaking out. They love. I'm like, man, this is my new identity. I'm just be out here pretending I'm a grower. That's amazing. For the look. I used, I actually used to
Starting point is 00:54:03 my mom's going to get so mad at me for admitting this. She hates it when I do. But like, we used to grow in my mom's garage when I was like 17. So I kind of like, I kind of like, I kind of know how to grow too, but, you know, I literally, I, something to fall back on. Yeah, let's put it this way. When I got on Fantasy Factory, that's when I was like, Mom, enough of this. Really? No, we can't do this stuff. I didn't know you're in the streets. No, my mom's going to get mad of saying this. Well, my mom's worked really hard my whole life. So she don't got a trap no more. And, and she had very, no, great jobs. And, you know, things started to get, she did like sales, you know, like safety supplies. Right. Once the fucking internet took off, it was like, that wasn't a job.
Starting point is 00:54:42 anymore, you know, so my mom did the same thing for 30 years. And so after, you know, she needed to make money. Yeah. Streets were there for. I want to say the streets, you know, it was like growing in like West Hills. The garage. Yeah. Legally, because she has like some illnesses too.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So it was like all legal, all, you know. California, that's not drugs. Yeah. It's just fun. Medicine. It's the medicine. Hey, I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much for having me.
Starting point is 00:55:05 This is really good to get to know you. Well, I didn't get to know you enough. I feel like I need to ask you some questions. You don't have a podcast or anything? No. I should start one I guess. I feel like you should have like a dash radio show at the very least or something. I live around the corner from them so that would be perfect.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Well then I totally know where you live now. Shit. Hopefully. Hopefully. I'm not going to do anything with that information. Hopefully. Well, you just remember you just said you accidentally gave out the hospital. Now we accidentally.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Oh my God. You guys, please don't. Now I'm going to have people walking around the neighborhood right around past trying to find me. Attention to all my stalker fans. If you have a propensity to stock, please stop listening right now and go take some Zanz. forget you even watch this. Okay. I just realized that Laura has like,
Starting point is 00:55:47 Fila Balenciaga's on. My publicist is out here. It's ripping. Huh? You're going to shame me again? No, because we were playing a song and the rapper said, if the bitch got dirty shoes,
Starting point is 00:55:57 she ain't getting in. And I just so happened to look down at my publicist Laura's shoes and she had dirty shoes on. And I'm like, oh, Laura, you ain't getting in. And she brought it up like days later. Like, you kind of shamed me for having dirt. I'm like, I was just singing along the song.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I don't care. You have dirty shoes. Dirty shoes are kind of lit. Like Lil B. Are you telling me, Lil B couldn't get in the party? He had dirty shoes. That's like his whole image.
Starting point is 00:56:20 What are we talking about? I don't know. Her shoes are fly today, though. You can't say nothing. She came with the Philo Balenciaga collab that I didn't even exist. All right. Chanel West Coast, No Jumper, coolest podcast on world.
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