No Jumper - China Mac Betrays Crip Mac! Akademiks takes His Scandalous Ex Back & More

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

Adam and Wack talk about Blueface latest legal issues, weigh in on Adam vs Joe Budden, Akademiks' love life, the rise and fall of China Mac, Lefty Gunplay being next up, Katt Williams, and more! -----... Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:06 So just so the people know, assuming this podcast is going to come out on Sunday, we don't really know what the reaction is going to necessarily be to the podcast that we put out yesterday, our most recent episode. So if there's any like incredible clapbacks that happen on, you know, today's Thursday, it is a bit later in the day. But later on on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we don't know because we just put that episode out yesterday. And we're waiting for the feedback to roll in aside from. the comments and whatnot. Who's going to clap back? You just never know if people are going to want to have their say.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I noticed that your boy Spiffy Luciano's already on a bit of a tear. I don't know that, dude. I don't even... Well, he made the video. What is he mad about? You said good things about the kid. And he was thankful for that. Yeah, what the fuck is he mad about?
Starting point is 00:00:58 He's a little kid. You don't even fight, you like slap fight them type of kids. Do you slap kids? I will slap the dog shit. He's a kid. You ever see like a disrespectful 8-year-old on the side of the world and just park the car? I'm talking about little dudes like him. Like, you're a little kid, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Like, you still built like a 13-year-old, bro. Chill out. But you've been around for a lot longer than me. Like, you were around during the era where if your wife talked back to you, you got to just, bah. We've seen that growing up in a household. You saw it, but your generation, like, wasn't cool with him. Well, girlfriends, the girlfriend era. So the late 80s, early to mid-90s.
Starting point is 00:01:48 But when OJ did what he did, that changed everything for real. It was over with it. Really? It changed rules. Domestic violence got ruined for everybody by OJ. OJ fucking. He gave domestic violence a bad rap.
Starting point is 00:02:05 like it used to be if she didn't show up the court or she called and reneged on the statement and throw the case out. But it was something like proposition something 115 or 114 to where hearsay
Starting point is 00:02:25 would bound you over. So whatever was in that report, right? It was staying. They didn't care which she doubled back in Z. Okay. So there were a lot more forgiving about smacking your wife around?
Starting point is 00:02:38 No, once OJ killed that lady, it was always. I feel like my whole life I've really kind of had it in my head that you're not allowed to smack a girl. No, I mean, listen, me personally, we was taught not to hit women. Right. Unless the female kept hitting you. If the female was a threat, knife, gun, bat pole, even when like about, you know, we'd take it. But if they kept coming at some point in time, you're not to defend yourself. But tell me if I'm being silly, but I would think that, like, in the gang world,
Starting point is 00:03:14 there's a little bit more tolerance for smacking the shit of people in general, maybe up to it, including women. Pro. Gang. Church lady. Anybody can get it. Yo, I got cousins that's dead, bro, like, stabbed up. Really?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Hell yeah. Bro, you got to remember, bro, like a weapon is a weapon. A gun is a gun. You know, these women and savages too, bro, hitting you with hot grits, hot grease. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:44 Bro, you ain't seen it the last, it's like two cats got their you know, their slammers cut off. Two cats got their slammers? Yeah. By cats, do you just mean dudes?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah. And slammers, you mean d'clockers, man. Are you talking about John Bobbitt? No, that's the original dude. Yeah, it was the original. So another dude just got a shot off. The lady cuts it off and goes to the hospital
Starting point is 00:04:10 said y'all might be needing this. The other lady flushed his shit by the toilet. Hmm. You want to know those? So I wonder what, does his nub just get hard? We should look into that. No, I ain't looking at the shit. Probably like the time in my life where I wanted to hit a woman the most.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let me tell you the scenario. And let me know if you would have been tempted as well. I had a brand new all-wifed. diplomats shirt Cameron, Jim Jones, my faves. The year is maybe 2004. I'm rocking this 2XL diplomat shirt that I had ordered
Starting point is 00:04:46 online in retrospect. I lived in New York City. I probably could have just rode my bike to Harlem or something. I bought one. I had probably spent like, I don't know, $30, $40 with shipping for this diplomat shirt, right? I'm kicking it with this girl. She's crazy. She's drunk. We go by the corner store and she decides that she wants to get a hot dog
Starting point is 00:05:05 and she's putting ketchup on it and I said something that she didn't like so she shoots me a look of disgust and then like she doesn't throw the hot dog at me but she got she like does that with the hot dog so all the ketchup I'm sprayed up my whole shirt red looks like I just got
Starting point is 00:05:24 a drive by dumb at me at that moment in my head I was like oh I want to fuck you up But she didn't do it. I didn't do it. You know. Would you have been tempted?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Definitely. Brand new shirt. Yeah. I might would have hit it with a Bruce Leroy. What's that like? Hight-cha. It's like a karate move? Hachah.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Those are supposed to actually hurt people, though. It's not just a theatrical thing. I mean, you know, that's why I said Bruce Leroy. Trying to water it down a little bit. You would say Bruce Lee. Bruce Leroy. Head it with the Jackie Chan. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Kiss my converse. and that I mean. So, yo, listen, man, you know, today's Sunday. Nope, today's Thursday, but this is coming out on Sunday, yeah. Okay, so today's Thursday, but I might act like it's Sunday. The Lord's Day. A Lord's Day. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Free Blueface. Free Blueface. You told us that you were going to have us accompany him to turn himself in, that we didn't get hit up about actually doing it. You already did. I already get information to the powers and be. You don't run shit. I'm going to be.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I don't have to check in with you. You called me and asked me to send a cameraman. I already talked to the cameraman. They don't just move when you say move. That's the cameraman right there. I check. Do you have the information with you? Did he have the information?
Starting point is 00:06:43 No, no, I've been tapped in two weeks ago. So you went and filmed him? Definitely, we got the footage already. He seems like tomorrow. Oh, it's Sunday. Okay, I got you. We're time travel. Today we're promoting.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Okay. We're promoting him getting arrested. No, no, no. Free Blueface. Free Blueface. Forever. All platforms, free Blueface, seven-song EP with the bundles.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Y'all go check it out. You got them bundles. So you're telling me Blueface had to turn himself in. This is not related to the shooting that you're going to be like, you didn't shoot any one. Right. You helped him beat that. He got a-
Starting point is 00:07:24 We got discharging firearm city limits. This was a Christian thing? Yeah, kind of, sort of kind. He violated parole. because of something that happened with her? Yeah. The cops came and what? Like how do you actually violate his parole?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Well, no, probation. Probation. Well, he was supposed to be in Las Vegas. We were fighting the case. Okay. I got him clearance to come down to spar with Floyd, business and out. So tell him no, you know, no come back. Week later, Chrison's in his ear.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I want, I want I want her Blue telling her like Nah, Wack said I can't You know what I'm saying? You know She gets you know The ladies get it
Starting point is 00:08:11 Wack your dad You're gonna listen to Wack All this bullshit Right Without me knowing The devil on his shoulder He goes back to Vegas Right
Starting point is 00:08:24 Now I've seen the videotapes After the arrest There's a fan Christiane, we love you. We love you. We love you. We love you, Chrishan.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But, f*** him. This is the persona you guys have built. This is, Chrishan, this is your fan base. They love you. They hate blue face, right? She says it again. She got the phone.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Chrisan, we love you. Oh my God, oh, my God. But we love you. Friam him. Chrison, pregnant and all, takes off on the girl. under 7,900 cameras in a Palm Hotel.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Blueface went to grab the girl's phone to make sure she didn't get some footage or whatever. He grabs and looks at it, gives it back. Chris-Shan's welling on the girl. Right? Now, because I had them in a situation for the attempted murder, well, we were going to beat that case.
Starting point is 00:09:25 They turned around and use this situation and charge Blueface with a robbery. He never leaves with the phone. It's like maybe four seconds, one one thousand, two, one thousand, three, one, a time. Boom, gives it back. Charge Blueface with a robbery.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Don't charge Chrisad with nothing. Seems like a stretch. If he's just holding it for a few seconds, they're really taking the definition of robbery and stretching it to its limits. So, pause. they charged Chrishine with nothing
Starting point is 00:09:58 and Chrishine knew and I told him our last court date in L.A. Yo, bro, keep our program to program. Don't bring Chrishanna in our court dates. We've been fighting for years.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He pops up on sentencing date in L.A. And she hears all the terms. I didn't want him to take the deal. It was four years joint suspension because I didn't feel
Starting point is 00:10:25 he was disciplined enough for that. Joint suspension the same thing should went to jail for. It don't matter what you do. You can go still a bag of chips. If you got nine years joint suspension, you get in nine years. Any violations.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So now I go to fighting the robbery in Vegas. The attempted murder doesn't affect me because it happened prior to us taking a deal in Los Angeles. So whatever happened with the tempted murder has no bearing effect on
Starting point is 00:10:56 the LA case. I get the robbery reduced down to a misdemeanor, but it's still a violation. So August, we go back to court. I'm battling. I'm paying these attorneys. I'm paying these attorneys. You know, they're like, yo, you know we're supposed to go to the four. You know how it goes, right?
Starting point is 00:11:16 So I'm paying these attorneys, paying these attorneys. We get down in like December and they're like, yo, they want to give him the four years unless we were willing to negotiate. Right. So they're like, all right, we probably can get him three years. I mean, 300 days, you know, in the county jail, which I understand how the county jail works, right? 300 days. You can be from a month to 100 days.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They might just chop that shit down like crazy. You know, my brother just went. My brother just went. He did 18 hours on 90 days, literally. Right? So, you know. I have had. I had friends of mine go in there and they're telling me like, yeah, I got to go do three, four months.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And then they come out like three days later. And I'm like, are you serious? Like, I was all worried about that. Yeah, so. But you know, for the last five years, brother, I've been fighting. I beat a lot of case for my hardest, especially him, the freeway shooting. I walked out of there three years probation. I caught a gun case in South Central.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I beat that one in Compton Court. Blueface's gun case Yeah these is all blue cases I beat another gun case Super Bowl weekend in Hollywood I beat that one The assault and battery On the security guard
Starting point is 00:12:40 Here in North Hollywood That's the one he took probation on Attempted murder in Las Vegas I got there reduced down A discharge and firearm city limits The robbery in Las Vegas I got reduced down to a misdemeanor So you know I've been
Starting point is 00:12:55 My legal team is vicious. Do you ever fantasize about what it would be like to sign an artist who didn't constantly catch gun and violence related cases? Oh, listen, man. That would be nice, right? Well, Ray J. Ray J.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But Ray J. From music and television, he drifted over to, you know, the electronics, you know, all that type of stuff. And now he's into the digital world. Now he's got a house full of trans one. That's done. Oh. We're about to shoot part two, though.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Oh. It's going to be worse. You're hosting Really? Yeah It's probably a decent percentage Of the trans women That wouldn't care for me
Starting point is 00:13:33 Oh I don't know Some of them seem to get the idea That I'm a trans folk Because I won't You pop it What you mean Some of them want to fuck
Starting point is 00:13:41 And I'm like, I can't do it Also you do have some A line, a limit Because we all thought Because you let a trans Sit on your lap That was a joke That ain't no joke
Starting point is 00:13:53 You had man ass On your man lap correction I had wet trans grundle on my knee what do you mean wet what the fuck is grunt what the you know break that white boy talk down the lamest turn what is wet grondel picture the area between your asshole and your ball sack up to and including some of the bottom of your ball sack you know that whole area yeah yeah okay now picture after sitting there in that chair for two hours how it might be starting to feel a little moist, a little musty, a little wet. Oh, because that had on tight shit.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah. Tight and tucked. And Sidney started, to be fair, got the BBL. There's a lot of junk in the trunk. So she gets up to sit on my lap and I'm just kind of, I'm rolling with the joke, whatever. That shit was a swamp. You felt the, you felt the moist? My knee.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And you just let the individual sit there? You didn't get that motherfucker body blow, a rib shot? Can you imagine how that would have gone over? Hey, bro. Like, you know when they got swamp ass, bro. Yeah, and that mother-fitting they're right down on my knee.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But all I'm saying is that over the years, I've had more than a few trans women, like realize that I'm going to the Avian Awards in Vegas in one week, two weeks, something like that. What is that? Adult Video News Awards. And so it's like a convention for multiple days where we have a plug talk booth and I'm going to be in there with Lennon and all these other girls and we're going to be signing autographs and taking photos and doing all this kind of shit. And like through that, like mostly we interact with the stars that we want to interact with.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But when you're at the convention, you start running into a lot of stars that you would not normally interact with. And so all of a sudden you've got, you know, a disabled woman who's telling you that she wants you to her stump. And then you've got, you know, a trans performance. and she's telling you about how she wants you to suck their dick. And then you're dealing with, you know, a 400-pound woman. And she's telling you that she wants to be your first BBW scene. And so it's like you're standing there in the booth. And this is fast and furious.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Just like, I want to fuck you. I weigh 400 pounds. Okay, this is my assistant. She's going to take your information. You turn around like this. Hey, I want you to suck my stump. Okay, this is my assistant. She's going to take your information.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It's a lot to take in. Now, that being said, I love the trans community. But I feel like I'm not ready to fuck a Boca Burger vagina at this point in my life. So you think there will come a time where you might be ready? Well, I do notice that a trend in my life is that I get freakier as I get older. So that kind of makes you wonder like, well, what's 50 or 60 going to be like? So you're potentially gay. I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And these are women, buddy. They're not women. They are a type of woman. Another nine, it's a man. No, I have to differ from you there. Yeah, God, this facts. Scientifically, godly, and factually. Listen, I'm going to respect.
Starting point is 00:17:09 In the eyes of science and God, I would agree with you that they're probably not women. But I choose to treat them as women. I have respect for them. That being said, that respect is not necessarily necessitate me. So you choose to treat them as women, then you be sexually active with them. And therein lies the problem is that. I don't think I want to cross that line. Because at the end of the day, see here goes a problem, right?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Uh-oh. They want us to respect and acknowledge their way, their movement, right? Mm-hmm. But in the same voice, they want us to disregard our way, our movement. So my equal medium is this. Incremedium? Equal medium. Equal medium.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Okay. This is what I'm going to meet you halfway at. If you ask me what is it transgender, right? And from the community, I'm going to say they identify as a transgender woman. Right. When it comes to their, you know, what they want to be represented in the community. When you ask me, the heterosexual man. Allegiant.
Starting point is 00:18:21 What is it, no, no legend. Ain't no swamp ass sitting on my lap. Not yet. I might come over there. Not having it. When you ask me, what is a transgender woman as a heterosexual male? I'm going to say that's a man. Because you have to, for me to respect what you want to be identified as,
Starting point is 00:18:40 you have to respect what I identify as. In a minute, I start calling a man, a woman. I'm now psychologically crossed over to how they see things. And I'm a heterosexual man. So I'm going to see it the total. opposite. My thing is just I will respect them as whatever they prefer to be identified as. I call you by your name if your name ain't nothing too crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:08 If your name is juicy fruit or some crazy shit. Hey juicy. Bubbilicious, I'm not with you. Hey, Bubba. You know, if you call yourself, you know, Steve at or something. Cool. I do, you know, part of what I want. want to tell the trans community is like just to be as polite as possible.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I want to be like and tell me if you think that they would appreciate this. I'll say, I want to fuck you. But unfortunately, due to my role in the hip hop community at this time. I'm blaming on hip hop, bro. I know, but it seems like a pretty good scapego. No, and hip hop your ass over there. That's what you went to. That's what you went to.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Hip hop your ass over there and out of your business. Like, what are you talking about? Don't put that on us. You ain't part of the hip hop community anyway. Huh? Huh? No. I'm doing a podcast with you.
Starting point is 00:20:03 What does that mean? This is a podcast. I know, but you're a hip-hop guy. You're a hip-hop. See, if I call Joe right now, he wouldn't agree with none of this shit you're talking about. Who's Joe?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Joe. Joe Bullitt. Oh. Joe Button. Put some respect on his name. Why? That's my partner, man. Partner in what?
Starting point is 00:20:23 Yeah. He's involved in the diaper business? I'm offended. That's my partner. man. You know, we got a mutual respect for one another. I think it respects you.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I used to feel like I had a degree of mutual respect for him. I heard that you were supposed to like go partner up with his network and he dissed your ass and then you were scared to go over there. What? It seems like a creative
Starting point is 00:20:44 account of what happened. That's what academic said. I don't know. Oh, I didn't actually watch that clip, so I don't know what academics said. He said, you were supposed to go over there and Joe dissed your ass and you got uncomfortable. Why would you get uncomfortable? but if you going over there up under your thing,
Starting point is 00:20:58 what that got to do with Joe? I'm not sure if you're misquoting what acts said or anything. No, I'm not misquoting. You misquoted them last week. About a year. And I had to press play. A year and a half ago, I went to Joe's podcast and did his podcast.
Starting point is 00:21:11 And I think that he had a little bit of a grudge against me after the fact, because of the fact that I was sort of flaunting what I perceived as a W in our debate. He also may have been annoyed by the fact that I had a Roryan mall, his top ops. on the podcast soon after, I believe. Joe don't give a damn about that. Yeah, I would assume they probably don't care about that either.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, people always ask me, like, do you think that you'll ever get along with Joe again? And I'm like, I don't really know how it would happen because I can't really imagine anyone in either of our lives going out of their way to try to patch that up. Wack 100. You are that guy. What am I talking about?
Starting point is 00:21:54 What am I talking about? Joe, we need the second debate. Me, you and Joe, would be a moment. We need the second debate. Why not throw 6-9 and Hassan Campbell in there, too? What did I got to do with Joe? It would be like the wrath that we jack an episode. That's like the best podcast that you've ever done was that Act 6-9, Hassan-Campbell episode.
Starting point is 00:22:13 You're trying to throw a bunch of things in there to avoid the direct interaction with Mr. Joe Button. What am I avoiding with Joe Button? I don't know. You should be running from something. Why you didn't sign the deal over there? What deal? The deal that you had on the table. The only deal that he and I ever had on the table,
Starting point is 00:22:33 and I wouldn't say it was really on the table, but it was back in 2018, he, for a moment in time, suggested that he was interested in me being one of the co-hosts on State of the Culture, which was the show that he did on Revolt, with, what's his name, Jinks, Scotty Beam, and Remy Ma was the cast.
Starting point is 00:22:51 It didn't last a year from what I was. recall. I'm going to, they maybe did 20, 30 episodes, something like that. I don't think it would have worked with me on that shit anyway. I told him, I'm like, I live in California. I can't do this. Yeah, you would have been a wild car, though. Yeah, I would have been the one getting bullied the whole time. But can you imagine me moving to New York to do a show that didn't even turn into anything and like abandoning no jumper? That would have been a bad career. No, yeah, it'd be a bad move, bad move. Bad move. But I was thinking like, am I going to fly back and forth every week? This is insane. Like, am I even concerned? Are you.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I wouldn't have done that. I mean, they had to be paying me some real money. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't do that. That's a light's little trip. You know what I just got done doing? Scouring the history of No Jumper's interviews, trying to find different examples of me saying the N-word. I can only find one.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Because, okay, I'm writing this history of No Jumper. It's about the first four and a half years. It's basically the middle of 2015, up until the very beginning of 20th. And it's just the history of that whole period of no jumbra that a lot of people don't really remember that well. You know what your problem is? Here we go. What?
Starting point is 00:24:04 This is real shit. You like the little kid that never got his ass whooped. I have gotten my ass whooped. No, you haven't. Yeah, a couple times. So you might have got beat up. You ain't got your ass whoop. That's probably fair.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I haven't really got whooped. A good day and a half you can't really get out of bed. Oh, no, I never. You know, you look at a man. You're like, oh, shit. I got jumped once. time and I had a black eye. That was probably... Now that's like regular.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, wasn't that bad. Because you playing with things like the N-word? This clip is from... You're trying to get canceled? It's from 2016. Are you trying to get canceled? It's made the rounds on social media plenty of times. So you try to like... The reason why I was looking for examples of me saying it is because
Starting point is 00:24:45 in this video that I'm writing about the first four and a half years of no jumper, there's multiple different white people that I acknowledge said the N-word at various different points in the podcast history. So it's like I have to acknowledge that I said it to, even though the time that I found. Is that like a trophy for you guys? It's say, oh, I said the N-word and I got away with it. I live to tell the tale.
Starting point is 00:25:10 So you're doing like an N-word gold, inward silver, inward bronze? I just wanted to acknowledge that, yes, I'm acknowledging that these white people said it, but here's an example where I said it. Now, for the record- You said it. You're proud of that shit. I was quoting a future lyric. No, but you knew the lyric.
Starting point is 00:25:28 It didn't really seem that bad to me at the time. But you knew the lyric. Well, yeah, I listened to the song enough times that I knew the lyric, yeah. But you did it on purpose. It's on camera. In front of a bunch of black guys, yeah. Actually, no. A couple of Cubans, Hispanics.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I don't know. You're trying to get canceled. It's a bad time. This has been out there for so long that the odds of me getting canceled for saying that N-word eight years ago when quoting a future song. seemed pretty low. Bill Cosby fucked some women 40 years ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Did he fuck them or did he drug and rape them? He fucked them. Once he drugged and raped them? Back in those days, quite a lot of cocaine. It was regular, basic party drugs. You didn't have to bend nobody's arm back in those days. They were wittantly getting high.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Okay, but he was putting stuff in people's drinks so that they wouldn't know what they were about to consume. Cap says who? The white man. Bill's free. Is he? They didn't try to lock him up at one point?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Been free. Did he get locked up for a little while? They had to let him go. Okay, well, I do think that saying the N-word is less serious than drugging and raping a woman. No, it's not. What makes you think that? Do you know the pain, the history, the horror, the terror behind that word? But you don't because your people didn't go through that.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I do think that if we were talking about, like, aggressively screaming, the N-word in someone's face, then that might be a little bit more common, have a little bit more in common with this whole drug and rape thing. Screaming it. Saying it. But just saying it when quoting a rap song, like, how offended would you be if I was quoting a future lyric to you when I said it? I would strongly advise you not to do that with me.
Starting point is 00:27:13 What if we were just kicking it, though? We're just on the beach, margaritas and hands. Not going to happen. Because a lack of respect. A lack of respect is a side of disrespect. Why would you want to play with something that has that much... The reason why I'm putting it in the video is to acknowledge my own wrongs. It's not like I'm proud of it.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I know why you're thinking about it. I'm acknowledging that I did something that I would not do today. No, but I know why you're thinking about the N-word. Because what you got to stop doing is watching that motherfucking tape. You keep watching that motherfucking tape. And scream that. And you start screaming it. I hate you.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You green-lit, your wife. I hate you. to do that, brother. Speaking of the Avian Awards, when I'm there, guess who's nominated for, like, sex scene of the year? Your wife?
Starting point is 00:28:06 My wife and someone other than me. The brother. From the tape. How does that make you feel? They're saying he fucked your wife better than you, bro. You got a million sex scenes. You got a million sex scenes versus the one with him.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Well, when you put it like that? That would make me say the N-word to it. Damn, are you for real? Yes. So is he showing up? Do you think that I should go up on stage with them if they win? Also, do you think they're going to sit her and I near him? Because it's normally when you win an award, you kind of go up together, right?
Starting point is 00:28:50 You should go up there with blackface. Fuck it. If you're going to do it, do it. I feel like that would be a good way to never be invited back to the Avion Awards. Yeah. Flack face. I mean, that's a lot. I mean, you like to say the N words. Fuck it. You won't you just feel like one of us? It was eight years ago.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And I was quoting a future song. Okay, so. Who you chased around. No, no. So let's say they win. That almost got real. Let's say they win. Which it seems, honestly, through looking at the list,
Starting point is 00:29:24 It's kind of like all these random porn scenes, no offense. And they're all kind of random. And then you have this one that was like the most viral thing in the country for like a month. Is this the first time your wife would have been won this kind of award? Well, her and I won a podcast of the year last year. And then at the Pornhub Awards a couple years ago, she won Celebrity of the Year, which is kind of year. So that's the first time she would have won a sex scene award, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:53 if she wins. And the people out there go to my Instagram story right now or her Twitter or my Twitter and you can find the link so you can actually vote for her to win this category so you can find out what I'm going to do if she wins. So. Interactive.
Starting point is 00:30:10 You know how people get excited spare the moment. They just spur in a moment. They just get excited. So what if they win and excitement, you know, it's the best of her. and she turns to the brother and just wraps her arms around her,
Starting point is 00:30:28 pulls herself up, and just lays one on him. A fart or? A nice kiss. And when she does that, he naturally just grabs her ass so she gets. And I'm just standing there like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Well, why are you standing there? You weren't in the sex scene. You should be sitting your punk ass down in the audience. Wait, oh, okay, in my mind, I'm up on stage right now, but you're saying I need to be in the audience. Let's say you're standing there. The question.
Starting point is 00:30:53 is like how good is the filming? Because if the filmers are really on point, then they could go up together and then I could stay in my seat and just... So what would you say if she got that excited? But if there's not like a filmer who's filming my reaction, then I kind of have to go on stage to get my clout from this.
Starting point is 00:31:10 I'm gonna keep it real with you. I'm gonna keep it real with you. When men see women that was special, we react. We'd be like, damn, I remember that. When women see men that are special, they react. My whole thing is, am I going to be able to sneak in a little chair
Starting point is 00:31:27 so that I can like go up on stage? I got to creep out the little chair and then sit in my little cuck chair while they accept the award. I got to create incredible panty liners because she might get... She might get soaking by the end of this. Bro, for real. Bro, think about it. That's the best she ever had. Some would say.
Starting point is 00:31:49 No, no, no. She said it. Did she? bro she said she had to wait three days because she was too stressed out to even deal with you vaginal tearage doesn't necessarily indicate pleasure damage was done there anyway it is kind of awkward because we're so like we're cool with him he's shouting out the scene telling people to vote for it i see him liking my photos i might have liked him of his photos and stuff but we're kind of opi still so it's going to be kind of weird when we run into each other but you know i'm determined to
Starting point is 00:32:22 keep a professional. You have to because you're scared. He is much larger than me. That's a good point, you know. I mean, that's what your wife said, not me. No, I mean, like, height-wise. Oh, okay. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:32:35 You know, I'm in trod mo. Shout out to the hunter's side. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm shooting. It's going to be very, very interesting to say the list. The award, and the other weird part of my food. You're going to be uncomfortable. Some of the awards, they just like,
Starting point is 00:32:51 name it off. It'll be like, best boobs, so and so, everybody claps. Next up, best this. Everybody clubs. When we won Best Porn Podcasts last year, it was like that. It was like they're announcing kind of like a bunch of awards in a row. You're not going up to accept the award,
Starting point is 00:33:10 but we didn't know that. So even like when they're announcing the award, at that moment we realized like, oh shit, like we won and we're not going up. Like you find out in that moment. But also, I kind of kind of. I feel like if you're, I don't know, like if they are going to have you go up, maybe they tell you in advance. Hey, bro. I had a little birdie tell me that academics was already like up to some shit.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Up to what? He had a statue made, a little small one, and he was trying to get somebody to deliver it. A statue of what? It was just like, Shaka Zulu, Mandigo, look a dude. standing up, all the muscles, and he was gripping this chick. She was bent over by her waist. Like he was like... What's a shock of Zulu?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Black dude. And he was going to have that shit delivered to no jumper. So it's probably a good thing we kind of got off. I don't know, bro. How are you feeling about that? Because you... I answer the pre-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a. Because we recorded that.
Starting point is 00:34:21 podcast I guess probably on like a oh actually I think it was a Friday and we got it out by by Wednesday so we had like a nice little five-day period before I came out and you went on clubhouse and you basically told everybody what I said in the voicemail that we played no I didn't well I didn't watch it but I saw the YouTube title that said Wack 100 says and then it's the exact quote no I didn't well they did not do so much from that okay I did not say it. I just made people anticipate what might have been said.
Starting point is 00:34:58 You can see my pre-apology? I said the budget shit without saying nothing. I blamed you without saying your name. That was funny. Right? What's funny is act is over there. It's kind of quiet. It's been about 24 hours since that episode
Starting point is 00:35:14 came out and we haven't got a reaction yet but you realize where he is right now, right? Not to be too gossip or anything, but it would appear based on an Instagram live. So they're back together. Who? I can shake Lizzie. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Oh, come on, bro. God. I know somebody like you. I believe she has an apartment in Texas. And she went on Instagram Live and you got to see him like sitting on the couch and her apartment and stuff, which was kind of mind-blowing because it's like, so y'all went through all that. And you didn't even just like fly her out.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You flew there to go. kick it to patch shit up. You think he's... Whatever Chrison got between her legs, Shaglizzie must have that times 10. Because hopping on a flight to go chill with her after she did all that, fuck shit.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Sending your dickpicks to Troy Ave, Wack and the 22ster? So this is what I'm saying. See, what I see shit like that, it leads to speculation. Do you think acts scared to leave her because he's coming? with her being comfortable with him being uncomfortable, if you know what I mean? I mean, my honest actual opinion is that I think that she must have something on him.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Although even that, I feel like for him at a certain point, it's like no matter what you got on me, I'm so sick of dealing with this shit that just go ahead. Hell no. Go ahead and expose me. Especially if it's some compromising shit. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know how bad it could be. Because, yo, he's been quiet.
Starting point is 00:36:51 It's got to be a ratio. I had no idea. It's got to be a ratio between blackmail and love. Because I wouldn't be surprised if he's like 30%. He's 30% in love with her and he's 70% being blackmail. It's a little sucker in there, though. I said, is he stazzy back? You fucking bullshit me.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I mean, I just seen him in her spot on Instagram Live. I don't know if he's actually back with her. But I did notice, too, that, like, before he went there and was on his Instagram live in her apartment that she posted up like a I could probably find it in my phone but she posted up on her Instagram basically saying like I never said that act raped that girl la la la la like kind of cleaning up a bunch of the stuff that she had said during their prior argument so I'm assuming he kind of like made her do that like hey if I'm going to keep dating you you got to like kind of clean up some of the horrible shit you said about me hey man listen man
Starting point is 00:37:46 to each is home it's a sucker born every day I'd never seen an act you just got to realize that's your birthday. I never seen act like in love at all. I've actually never really seen him like express feelings towards any girl ever. Besides like a little bit to Selena Powell, but he's always denied that that was anything real at all. But it always felt like they had a little bit of something. That was a lie. That was a joke.
Starting point is 00:38:11 No. No, I remember that. He brought a G-wagon. No. He took it back. He has it. I don't think so. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Trust me. If that was true, that would be so fun. fucking funny. We could talk about it all the time, but I'm concerned with the truth and I don't there's no truth. You just fuck me up that you're telling me act is back with this chick. But that feeling. Is this the chick that's told of 500,000? Yes. But she also, she said that the whole story about the 500,000, before they got back together, I think, she said that that whole story was a lie to take attention off of the girl who made the sexual abuse allegation. So that grows before her. If that's true,
Starting point is 00:38:52 that's crazy. Like that's some crazy evil genius shit. I want everybody to take their attention off of this assault allegation, so I'm going to say that you stole half a million from me. If that actually happened, that's nuts. Well, that's some real strategy.
Starting point is 00:39:07 The assault should have been where was addressed. Yeah, that's true. Remember, all the clickbait and all the headlines that came out the day after all that bullshit was, I got half a million stolen from. It wasn't X, X says that he did that. this, this, and it. It was just the half a million story.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Man, you bullshit me. He really went back to that girl. But that feeling that you're having right now of being like, oh my God, I can't believe he's back with her. I can't believe this shit. I've had that feeling like four or five times over the course of the past few months of like, oh, I thought for sure they had to be done after this thing. Now they can never get back together. Oh, nope, they're back together. It's hard to imagine what she might really have to do. I'm texting. Adam says you all are back together. You really went back to your ex.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Tell me you didn't do that. And it went through blues. He's getting it. This is crazy. Yo. Hey, look, brother. You got to remember a lot of people that got some type of stardom of fame. Some of these people, like when they come to women, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:20 if you can't look up and see like in high school they had some shit going for their self college you got some shit going for themselves and they just kind of finally got some things going when they started getting a little attention in the industry you know what I mean getting a little money then I understand why you know people are scared to like let go
Starting point is 00:40:39 the thing is is that AC has had money for like seven eight years like he was he had a show on complex like eight what was that 2017 I mean, that was a long fucking time ago. Okay, the question is, what women can we identify him with? In terms of, like, public relationships, I mean, there was the Selena thing.
Starting point is 00:41:02 There's this girl. I said, come on, man, he came. And then, I mean, I know of him kicking it with a lot of hose over the years. Just, like, randoms. But I don't know of, like, a time that I knew him to be in, like, a real. Oh, no, no, the Angelica girl. there was another girl named Angelica too didn't really end so well
Starting point is 00:41:22 What happened? What did she say? She fucked some sound cloud rapper, Lil Tracy and then things got kind of weird and complicated after that, I remember. Little Tracy, Dick Tracy. See, Lil Tracy is a soundclad rapper. Dick Tracy is a fictional detective
Starting point is 00:41:39 from the 50s that my dad was into, so that's kind of I hope you and my dad meet at some point. Everybody keeps fucking ax-braves. Well, this was like, a long time ago. But okay, I'm gonna give Ack the same advice
Starting point is 00:41:54 that I previously heard him give to someone. I think I remember him discussing Waleigh at one point. Waleigh, the rapper, not the guy named Walee, who he does a podcast with now, I think. But Walee, the rapper, and he was talking about what, I think the conversation was what Wale
Starting point is 00:42:09 should really do if he wants to, like, stay in the spotlight and be popular as a rapper and everything like that. And one of the pieces of advice that I gave him was, You need to have a high profile relationship. You need to be fiancé and fiancé with like, you know, somebody that counts.
Starting point is 00:42:26 A girl who's in the public conversation, you know, like look at Jonathan Majors. He gets in the worst PR disaster of his life. What's he do? He gets in a relationship with a strong black woman is undoubtedly very good for his career, even though a lot of people were kind of suspicious of this seems a little odd. Maybe like it's a weird time to announce that you're in this relationship. But if I got into a serious relationship, with a girl of some status within hip hop or hip hop adjacent,
Starting point is 00:42:53 probably be really, really good for his career, right? It would, like, humanize them, let people see him as a real person. Who do you think? What would be the fit? That's the problem. What about scarlet? Akin Scarlet. I mean, I'm just brainstorming.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Because I'm going to be real. I don't think Glorillera's the one. She seems a little too hard-headed. Actually, Scarletes seems too hard-haired. She's just the first. I don't know pop up in my head. I think Scarleth's a little too
Starting point is 00:43:24 gangster. You got any ideas? I can't believe you said, uh, um, that's a fucked up idea. Why, do not say that.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Uh-oh. Don't say that. Little Bernie get off my shoulder. Do not say that. That's not good. I'm not going to say that. Do you think that you would be better off like an artist or like an only fan's girl or?
Starting point is 00:43:51 Maybe like a, an actress. Like an exec. Like a chick who's like higher up Atlantic. That might work. Something like that, right? She's not like 100% in the public eye, but she's like respected. That might work. What race are you thinking?
Starting point is 00:44:06 I'm thinking of Dominican or Puerto Rico. Hmm. Okay. Black girl, too strong for him. And a white girl might be too boring for him. I don't know if I ever seen him with a white girl. I don't know if he could find enough enjoyment out of a white girl.
Starting point is 00:44:21 well if he gets a real toxic one how about um how about a comedian Tiffany had it she likes drinking just like him she had a couple DUIs in the last couple years that's my home girl that's my home girl too but she got DUS okay it was dismissed
Starting point is 00:44:46 and she went in Beverly Hills I talked to her doesn't count if it was in Beverly Hills I talked to her she said she was amazing being drunk that night The service. Oh, what, the jail? She went in the morning. Wait, you get arrested in Beverly Hills, you go to the Beverly Hills jail?
Starting point is 00:45:01 Oh, that shit's incredible. Dave Burgers are better than fucking rallies. Is that why everybody does home invasions out there? No, listen, mattresses, memory phone, shit's amazing. That's fucked up. It's like 20 miles away from the L.A. County jail. Bottle water in the cell. What?
Starting point is 00:45:21 Crazy. I might go get drunk and drive around until I get put in there. I called her after that, and she was in a, she was in a, know why you're bowie or some shit when I was talking to her and uh she was like yo it's like five in the morning or something she said but the stay was amazing I got she was in no rush get out act and uh lunel that I can work the age difference might he probably wants a chick who's young enough that she could bear children which I think is reasonable I know what I got I mean I have a black girl for and she's kind of in the area who just hilarious
Starting point is 00:45:59 she needs something to do they took her off breakfast club oh did they yeah well Charlemagne was bitching about it uh and say like he hated on Jess no he wanted Jess Faride is a motherfucker man he wanted her to be
Starting point is 00:46:13 the new Angela Yee they even announced that she was going to be the new Angela Yee there's a video footage of just hilarious on stage celebrating it and everything and then Charlemann like yesterday or today comes out and says that IHare basically overrided
Starting point is 00:46:29 their desire to have just hilarious be the third mic and the theory that i've heard floated is basically that the ratings are significantly down for the breakfast club so they're trying to like get a third who will maybe bring in a significant audience which to me doesn't just hilarious have like a couple million instagram followers like yes he's probably bringing in some kind of audience right like she seems like a pretty good option but i don't know maybe i heart wants somebody more high profile or maybe there's another reason that we don't know about. How about they let Just stay there and then they replace Charlemagne? Well, then I think the show's over.
Starting point is 00:47:09 The show needs a new name. First of all, Charlamagne is the show. Get the fuck, Envy's the show. Charlemagne talks five times as much as Envy. Charlemagne was an ad on. The show was there with Envy. Charlemagne is the whole show. Fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:47:26 What happens with Joe Bunnan's podcast if he leaves, and it's just all those other guys. What you mean? They're going to get like 20% of the views. This is the same thing with the breakfast club. Charlie Main's the whole thing. So you're saying Joe Button's crew and shit? I'm saying that he's still like the figurehead.
Starting point is 00:47:42 And they all know that. They all know that the show doesn't exist without him, right? What? Did they bring Remmy Ma up there? You're thinking state of the culture. No. Joe Button podcast. To the Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Did they try her? Did they? I don't know. That would work. They tried out Mona Loads. A.k. Don't call me white girl. Remmy mom would have worked. I would love to pod with Don't Call Me White Girl all the time.
Starting point is 00:48:04 She needs to just move out here and just be my little sidekick. Remmy mom papoos would work. They seem to have broken up. What is I have to do with the chemistry of business? So they're going to get divorced and be co-host together? They're raising a child. Co-parenting and co-hosting quite different. They're both strong enough to show up.
Starting point is 00:48:27 That is New York. Brooklyn. I just assume that they're not terribly fond of each other right now. I wouldn't say that. Yeah, I mean, I hope that they're getting along and everything. I wouldn't say that. Man, like, we need more info about how exactly that shit went down, but the idea that Papp held her down while she was locked up for all those years.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I witnessed that. Oh, I remember. That was insane. No, no, you missed the point. You were up close and personal? Me and DJ K. Slate like this. Okay. And he signed a Pappoos back in the day.
Starting point is 00:48:57 He was signed the case at a time. I witnessed that. I could not believe it. Right. One of a kind of dude. We would go to parties. Slay would have Pap come out. Straight Stut magazine parties.
Starting point is 00:49:08 All this shit. No bullshit. Pap would come out, do whatever he needed to do with Slay, and he was out of there. He wasn't dealing with no women. He wasn't doing none of that shit. I called Pap on a Thursday, Friday. He was on his way driving upstate New York or whatever to go. For real?
Starting point is 00:49:27 He would go up there like every weekend? Yeah, he would tell me what's crazy, bro, is you go to a men's facility, you see a lot of women in the visiting room. The women's facility, two or three people. Really? So you're like a superstar if you go in there. You know, I know Pap and Remy and, I don't know, man, I hear this little dude ever, this little dude is like... Easy to the block. He did some clout chasing shit.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Now, I don't know if it's true or not. He's the only one saying it. I know Papp socked him out You know, I don't know I don't know That could have been over a disrespectful phone car I don't know I'm hearing that Remy signed a dude You know I'm hearing a little bits and pieces about it
Starting point is 00:50:10 If you're a woman and you shoot another woman And then end up having to do what like seven years in prison And your rapper husband Who realistically can go and get all kinds of buns his prospects were probably very, very open at that time, all kinds of women who were perfectly happy to deal with the lyrical slaughter that would be, imagine that? Like the way he can rap, imagine him eating your pussy?
Starting point is 00:50:39 No, we had, Law Library was big. Him and Kay Slate was winning the Justo Awards. Every time they went up for that shit, you know, Pat was moving. And then imagine you get out. And I don't want to like toss any accusations that aren't true on Rememey Ma. But if this is exactly what happened, you get out and you are so horny that you cheat on that man with a random battle rapper. Like, what the fuck? I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I have yet to see any of them really speak on it. Yeah. You see Gucci, or Gucci Gotti, like, air the whole fucking thing out during a rap battle while she was standing right there, Stoneface. What I'm saying is that was a rap battle. Shout out Gichigotti. Shout out Gigi. Great guy. That's the homie.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Shout out Rick Rock. Shout out. Man, Rockstar was not happy with the way you were talking about him last time. But I, um... Sorry, Rockstar. I didn't mean to mention your name. Rockstar. He's a runner.
Starting point is 00:51:42 He's a crack star. He's an energy drink. I don't know, brother, because if this is true, if this is true, let's say all of this is true. They get the award. and they should be the example on how celebrity couples should handle things.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Because they haven't really spoken on it, even though seemingly like everyone around them is talking about it. They haven't said anything back and forth. There's no subs going back and forth. Every time I see Pap doing something, he's working, I see Rem, just did a song with somebody.
Starting point is 00:52:23 She's working. I believe I seen him at Christmas. together, you know, with the children. So if this is true, the way they're conducting themselves should be the example for every celebrity in the industry on how you should act when there's a fault or not.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Because this is just into the money thing or I'm tired of you thing. This is like you did some, you violated, some sexual shit. Note to self. Don't get involved. slash cheat on anyone in the battle rap community because this is really what they do
Starting point is 00:53:02 is they make content out of making fun of each other, giving each other a hard time. I would much rather do battle with somebody who's a little bit less skilled linguistically. I mean, you know, the rumor can only come out if somebody leaked it. And I think little dude,
Starting point is 00:53:24 whatever his name is. Easy to block, Captain. I think he wanted this clout. Yeah, he won't. But you know what's crazy? Probably. He ain't getting it. You don't think?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Hell no. Nobody gives a fuck. You know why nobody gives a fuck? Because Remy and Pat, when it came to the industry, was the couple of black love. And we don't want. You remember on love and hip-hop? They had hats that said black love. We don't want to believe him.
Starting point is 00:53:54 They had a clothing brand called black love. So until Pap or Remy confirms it. As far as I'm concerned, it never happened. Mm-hmm. You know, one thing, say what you will about my wife, has never said a thing about me, has never taken a fight to her Instagram story. The people at home, even if you've watched intently
Starting point is 00:54:19 every single thing that's ever happened to us, you never got a whiff of any beef between us, which to me means a lot. No, that's real. I really appreciate that discussion. And I know you guys have your date. every couple does. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:33 That's real. You know, because some women shoot subs. They can be like some bullshit, but they know you understand it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, me personally, I hope it isn't true.
Starting point is 00:54:48 And if it is true, I hope they can at least continue as friends. They are friends of mine, both of them. They have children together, which basically forces your hands. that you have to stay cool on some level. And my girl has even said that, because I've said to her,
Starting point is 00:55:05 if we break up, oh, my God, you are going to be on every podcast saying this, this and this to me. I said that to her to kind of feel her out, see if she, like, what her reaction would be to that. And her reaction was, oh, are you kidding? I would love to. I can't say shit about you because you're the fucking dad to my kid. That's real.
Starting point is 00:55:23 And I appreciate that, you know, that should be the priority, right? You suppose to respect. Yo, so listen, Kat Williams, he says. set shit ablaze. Switch the topic up right there. Yeah, that was a good one. I watched the whole thing. Yeah, you know, it's, it's entertaining watching Cat.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I know Cat's a very smart guy. How do you know him? Because he's Shug Knight's friend? No, I met him in that era. Okay. I met him through Nick. Some Benis for he won. Cat's always been cordial and cool.
Starting point is 00:55:52 It would be cool, dude. What I like about Cat is he's down the earth. He's going to say it to you. If you like it, you like it, you like it. if you don't you don't but he's a real giving dude I think he's giving way more than he's received I think out of all this Mike Epps is being the realist in the situation
Starting point is 00:56:13 you know if you niggas stole some jokes you stole some jokes you know a lot of y'all that cat spoke on they ain't even on cat level that's a fact and the fact that he respects Nick Cannon you know he always gained my respect But I remember when Kat was running around with Shug, right? And Hazie, and it was a point of the time we shut down. But I could remember he had like this home in the woods
Starting point is 00:56:39 and the mile was like a cabin home. He just disappeared. And when he came back, he had a show at LA Live down here. And I remember being in there, me and AD from KD doing a security meeting. How many ADs are there in this city? I only recognize one AD. as he used to be the program director at KD. The other AD is,
Starting point is 00:57:02 homie say he's on paperwork, so I don't know. Right? So, um, there we go. You want to hear it? I got the content. No, that's okay. Shout out to Luce Cannon.
Starting point is 00:57:12 We could bring Luce Cannon up here, too. Yeah, we need to work in it. I don't know. But, you get to know him. He got a lot of content up. But in the security beating out of nowhere, and this at the time, all the shit was going on.
Starting point is 00:57:25 We should ignite and all the shit. he was like Shook can't get in the building and I'm thinking he bullshit bad Shug tried to come up there getting the building they shut Shug down
Starting point is 00:57:37 wouldn't let him in the building once I notice when you're with him you're with him but once he turns it off on you is over with he don't give a fuck now I did learn
Starting point is 00:57:50 I didn't know he adopted all those kids an unmarried man adopting seven children while being on the road doing comedy like all the time that was definitely a moment listening to that interview that I was like
Starting point is 00:58:06 Have you ever seen the children? No. That's what got me. He's never used that as no type of publicity stunt as no type of anything. That is something that when Kat was in the world of shit
Starting point is 00:58:24 right? Getting in fights with the little 15-year-old, whatever that was, all the shit he was being accused of. I've never seen him take a picture with all the kids around him. I've never seen him use that. I respect that. He's always protected those children.
Starting point is 00:58:39 It's one thing to have seven kids, and then you take care of them because they're your kids, but to adopt them, to do something that you blatantly don't have to do, I'm just kind of confused about what the motivation would be to adopt all those kids. Well, he said he wants to be Sounds like he's fucking a lot of girls, too, so why didn't you just have some natural babies?
Starting point is 00:59:00 He said he wants to be friends with God and maybe he felt like he's helping the children that need the most help. I do think that adopting a kid is definitely like one of the most selfless things that you can do because the reality is is that the foster care system, through doing these interviews,
Starting point is 00:59:14 I've just really realized that the foster care system is fucked, a huge percentage of kids come out of that scarred because... A lot of people doing it for the hustle. Bad people in there. Yeah, doing it for the money, doing it because you want to do some kind of weird abuse shit to the kid slash people who maybe go into it with good intentions, but then basically, like, realize how much work it is.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And then they end up just kind of pushing the kid off to some other foster home. Like, I've had some real heart-wrenching conversations with people who've been adopted. So the fact that he's apparently been a very good father to all these kids, but then just like being on the road that much. What the fuck are you doing with the kids? You know, like a hundred shows at a time. Maybe they, you know, maybe they're homeschool, maybe on the road. I wonder what age he adopts. Because my kids three.
Starting point is 00:59:59 You don't even know the names of these children. We've never seen them. But like, I feel like the first three years. Can you Google Kat Williams kids? The first three years, you want me to search it? Let's see if it comes up because he's done one hell of a job. I feel like, is this on? Stop abusing the black mouse.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Ooh, I'll abuse your mouse. Man, you really, you really on the funny side, huh? Why is this, it's moving the opposite way of the way that I would think that it would move at this moment. Oh, it's because I'm holding the mouse upside down. Look at that. Boom. Okay. God damn it, that's embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Cat Williams adopted kids. Cat Williams is a Christian and often wears a cross during his show as a symbol of his faith. Though he briefly joined the nation of Islam while living in Oakland. Uh-oh. Well This is a picture of oh Look at all these kids Yeah I mean it's tiny but I guess
Starting point is 01:01:02 Oh that's a blackish Wait is that It might just be like him with a bunch of random kids At a party or something like I'm not I mean this says Cat Wines Kids but all these kids are Well I guess they're adopted so they don't have to look like him
Starting point is 01:01:16 I don't know I don't want to dig too far I don't want to find anything Private that is also available on Google. Cat Williams' reason for adopting so many of his kids. God damn it. I can't even look at it because somebody put ad
Starting point is 01:01:33 blocker on this computer. Who did this? Oh, wait, we just turn it off, right? Pause on this site. Okay, now I can do it. He wanted to save the kids from hardship. That's a great reason. That's what you just said. Yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 01:01:54 I feel like it's about the most selfish thing you can do. Having a kid is also kind of selfless, but your kid is literally like a tiny miniature version of you that's going around in the world doing things that you to some extent get credit for. That feels like fundamentally very different than adopting a bunch of kids where, you know, they're not this like tiny, cute version. You notice he didn't say anything about Dave Chappelle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:21 You know why? You figured out who he had respect for by the end of that interview. I mean, but Dave Chappelle is one of the greats. Yeah. Yeah, he's definitely one of the greatest, yeah. But, but, okay, you watch that whole interview, and you kind of like start to feel like everything he's saying is true. But then I watched a clip of Charlemagne talking about his description of Kevin Hart's career.
Starting point is 01:02:44 And I really realized that he was kind of, like, purposefully misrepresenting certain people's careers, right? He's acting like, like, Kevin Hart had this completely, like, fabricated commercial come up. And then I'm listening to Charlemagne talk about it, and I'm like, Like, okay. So you really, like, can't believe everything the Cat Williams said in that thing. Because he definitely, like, glazed over a lot of details and sort of smoothed out some stuff. Well, quite naturally, he can't tell you everything about Kevin Hart's career because he's not fucking Kevin Hart. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So it's a time of Kevin Hart's career where Kat maybe wasn't plugged into it. In a minute of the day, Kevin Hart worth both $500 million. I don't know exactly. At the end of the day, so you can say what you want. I don't know how real he was being about his come up, but the way that he described himself making a list of like the 40 most successful people in Hollywood in terms of comedians and everything and how he basically just like warped his ass off until he was ahead of all of them. It's very motivational.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I'm like really imagining this guy who was living this existence that was 100% focused on becoming successful and wasn't allowing anything to get in the way of that. That was very motivational to me. I like when I see stuff like that that really takes me back to the point in my life where I was solely focused on the hustle and wanting to be a success story, you know? But how how successful is Kat Williams? I mean, it seems like he's doing quite well for himself, but I don't actually have any clue, like, how much money he has or anything. He seems rich as fuck. The way he's talking about himself, getting $20 million for a fucking Netflix special?
Starting point is 01:04:18 I don't think, um, I don't think he can line up with Kevin Hart when it comes to the money. Yeah, but Kevin Hart's been crying in his ass off, doing all these movies, all this commercial shit, all these years. I feel like, yeah, for sure, Kevin Hart probably has more money, right? Definitely. But we all know people, like, once you get to a certain level, some people make their entire existence about getting more money. And some people, like I would suggest even some of your clients, somebody like the game, the game could be, but he could probably make 10 times as much money this year as he actually will make. but he doesn't really seem like committed to just doing shit to make money.
Starting point is 01:04:55 He seems like he wants to enjoy his life. The game definitely, his priority, is enjoying his life. His life is children. Right. And once you decide that you want to put a lot of your time into your kids,
Starting point is 01:05:09 by definition, you're not going to be making anywhere near as much money as somebody who's down to grind 12 hours a day doing hard work in the show business world, you know? Shout out the cat, man. If I was the game, I would be on tour. Well, if I wanted to profit maximized,
Starting point is 01:05:23 that would be on tour all the time, traveling overseas, doing all this shit that I know for a fact he doesn't want to do. I mean, there's just all kinds of shit that he would probably do that probably isn't that enjoyable. We firing up, 2024, or 2024 are going to be a different year for us all. So you're on his ass? No, I just put, you know, I put things in front of him.
Starting point is 01:05:44 You know, ultimately, you know, when it comes down to the business, where business partners, and he falls in the position of being, my boss, so all I can do is put it in front of him, and ultimately he's going to make the decision. I'll debate him. He gives me that lead way to debate him to put things in front of me, but, you know, we got a few big things happening. We're going to move towards television.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Music can still be there. We got a baby game edition of Incredible diapers that definitely will be coming out. Baby game. Yeah, baby game. I like that. Right. So, you know, we got a few. things going on. How did you feel when you saw that
Starting point is 01:06:25 Chinamac posted a long-winded explanation for why he was choosing to no longer be cool with Crip Mac? He kept, listen. Approximately one month after he went to prison. He kept sending me shit. China Mac. Directing to my DM, like these little videos.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah, he kept messaging me too until I blocked him. Yeah, I ain't going to block him, but I didn't get it. Do you see the little corny shit where he's like eating and he was trying to eat and he held to fork there too long and the food start falling off the fork. The one where he was talking about me? Yeah, yeah, you seen that one? Yeah, he's like trying to be like a movie villain type thing.
Starting point is 01:06:57 I didn't get what the fuck that was. Yo, he's washed, bro. It's over. But see, this is what I'm saying. Troy Ave marked his ass out. What happened? Troy AF fucked over China Mac. Really?
Starting point is 01:07:09 I didn't even know. He's like nine of them. China Mac. It's like nine dudes that was attacking Troy. He fucked over them one by one by one. He created the shirt. He turned him in the car. cartoon characters. He was dissing them
Starting point is 01:07:22 and they all stopped mentioning his name. Really? Swear to God. So my thing is, why you fucking with Adam who on the West Coast? Why you ain't cleaned that up with Troy Ave? Right. This is the fact. We ain't forgot.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And I don't know why he mad at you. What he mad at you about? Because you're exposing the fact that he laid down on Crip Mac? Okay, so the order of operations is like he asked me to go to that thing that wasn't actually a bail hearing in which I would have not had any ability to actually get Crick Mack out. Stop right there. We had that conversation on here.
Starting point is 01:07:57 He did not make it clear to you, the way we made it clear to you, what that really was and what it could have been. Exactly. And then the way he talked about it afterwards. After we did it. Was as if I had just shown up, then everything would have been okay. And as if, like, you know, it was just such a bullshit misrepresentation. of what actually happened. And because he is a shameless cloud chaser with no integrity,
Starting point is 01:08:25 he jumped all over it and made a whole bunch of different videos about it and basically acted like he was Crip Mac's best friend in the entire fucking world. And then a clip came out, Lupe on the phone with him. And it was Crip Mac saying some shit that I still don't really know where it came from, but saying that somebody had came to his cell and told them that the Southsiders were looking for China Mag and they had issues of them and all this shit.
Starting point is 01:08:49 and I had no idea where that came from or what motivated KripMack to do that. I do believe it could have had something to do with the fact that I know Lupa is not a big fan of China Mac. So I don't know what kind of conversations they were having that might have led to that. Either way, China Mac blamed me for the fact that Krip Mac came out and said that stuff. And then soon after, China Mac decides, oh, I've dealt with so much disrespect now from KripMack that I think that now, coincidentally, yes, I may not be able to make money off you because now you're locked up and it might actually cost me money because I'm going to send you money behind bars. But now is the time that I'm so sensitive.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And you said one thing about me on a jailhouse phone call that now I have to exit the situation. And for me, I obviously seized upon that to say, this is the guy that some decent percentage of the fans believed and became convinced that I was a bad friend to cripple. Mac based on me, the one who was making him money this whole fucking time while China Mag. Like, what deals to China Mac as a manager? What money did you bring in for Crip Mac? No, he's a leech. Come on.
Starting point is 01:09:57 He leached. Come the fuck on. Did you see the slap in the face? Him counting the money. Oh. Now they tell me he's the Mac Venture shit. He locked up on Crip Mac page. So what happens is we got an East Coast dude.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Who came over and jacked somebody for the way. Former blood. Who? Just kidding. That was a rumor, but I don't believe it. There are some music videos, though, where this is some. China Mac is looking very bloody. This is some bad boy death row shit.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Yeah. Some bad boy death row shit going on. You have to understand where Chinamack was at in his life when he decided to start working with Krip Mac on this level. Because I remember when I was on that honeymoon and I'm kind of like texting Remo and we're going back and forth on like what moves we should make with the jumper once I get back yada yada and one idea that Remo kept kind of tossing my way was like oh we should do this mac eats thing or whatever we should we should really like lean into the china mac and crick
Starting point is 01:10:58 mac doing food thing i was like they're already doing this i don't want to fucking do that whatever so i i said no to that but then i did a meeting just right over there in my office with china mac about potentially working together and i said to him i'm like how would you feel about being on like a podcast on a weekly basis. Like, are you interested in that at all? And his words were, I've done the stream and shit, I've done the podcast and shit. Because keep in mind, he moved out here to be a podcaster,
Starting point is 01:11:24 to be a streamer. He was doing his whole streaming thing for a while. And he said, I really don't think that my strong suit is talking on camera. And I remember hearing that and thinking like, oh, so you gave up on being a content career. You know why, right?
Starting point is 01:11:40 Because he kept doing it and nobody really cared. Bro, he has a fucking butt for. Like, motherfuckers don't, you know what I'm saying? Like, it throws motherfuckers off. You know what I'm saying? You'd be trying to, like, watch your motherfucker. Like, he has a butt face. It's hard to focus on that.
Starting point is 01:11:59 You're right. His face looks like a butt. But he's no hair on his face. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I mean by butt face. No hair. It's like, it's just smooth. Like, goddamn, take a bit and just shave your skin and make that shit grow.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Do the Beijing's. I don't, that's not racist because he's Asian. It's actually called Beijing. What is Beijing? You know the shit where they kind of paint your mustache. A tattoo thing, they put a bunch of dachshundas. You should do that to his whole face? No, they paint it on and it's fucked up because it called Beijing
Starting point is 01:12:31 and then he's like Asian. But that's just, you know, I was. And so, okay, he told me that he basically thought that he wasn't qualified to be a participant on a podcast because he didn't think that being on camera was a strong suit, whatever. okay fine and that always kind of stuck with me because I was like oh so you you get it you know you suck on camera that's interesting but then I had him on an episode of the no jumper show and he was like you know I'm gonna have to like give you kind of a hard time on this or whatever and so I encourage people to go back and watch it because I basically got to sit there and listen to him try to like make me feel guilty about some shit that had happened throughout the history of no jumper and it was so
Starting point is 01:13:08 bad it was so weak like his attempts at trying to own me were all like old ass arguments that it felt like I was in a time machine it was some shit that I had just argued with AD and house phone about like six months ago and he's just trotting out these super lame talking points and that was when I really realized like oh yeah this guy's just washed he's done like there's no fucking coming back to be a rapper too right he tried to be a rapper he tried to be a vlad talking head Vlad fucking candom Vlad don't fuck him he tried to be a CEO of a transgender record label which people think that I set that up on purpose but actually Actually, I agreed to interview that girl, Ava, and then she shocked me and blew my fucking mind by telling me that China Mac had tried to manage her or whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:52 But keep in mind, your boy, T.T.E. Nadi. I'm talking to him. Boom. He tells me that China Mac reached out to him and tried to manage him. He's in Texas. Then I'm talking to who the fuck was the other one? Who was I talking to the other day that told me that he tried to manage them? Oh, it was four extras told me that he tried to manage him, too. So think about that. beat the shit I can try to make. Crip Mac gets locked up and you go and you find the other most aggressive Crip you can find in South Central? Like what the fuck? He just got out and you're going to try to lock him up in a deal?
Starting point is 01:14:26 That's some crazy shit. That's when I realized like, oh my God, this guy is out of his fucking mind. Anyway, I mean... Yo, man, let me tell you that. What's he going to do? It's over. Like, you're trying to manage a trans person. You're trying to find a new crypt to manage.
Starting point is 01:14:40 It's like, come on, man. Let's just go in the towel. We can't hate on this. So maybe you need to just go, um, get a job, you know what I mean, that, you know, fucking, um. A hot dog cart or something. You know, Mr. Chow's or something. Okay, see. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I've avoided turning this into a racist thing. With Mr. Child, what you mean? That's the spot. No, great, great spot, actually. Yeah, but, I mean, you know, he... No, I would think he might know more about Asian food than anything else. What's wrong? Like, that's like telling a Mexican or something like that to go fucking, you know, open up a, uh, uh,
Starting point is 01:15:15 Mexican restaurant. You can see how that would be kind of weird, right? Why? Well, if I told you, whack this whole podcast and thing ain't worth and working, you need to go start a soul food restaurant. I'm going to put some thought into it. Okay, but you can see how it would come off a little racist, right?
Starting point is 01:15:31 How is that racist? To tell someone to go do the one thing that is directly, intrinsically connected to their race based on food. The truth can never be considered disrespect. But you're right, because if you told me to go start a fucking burrito cart, can't do it. It's cultural appropriation. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Why would that be? You got to start a food cart related to your race, right? That's the sound right to say Charter Mac. Go open up a soul food restaurant? Well, I mean, he does seem to be a big fan of black culture, so it would maybe make sense, right? I'm just saying, I mean, shit. You know, I don't know what he going to do, but I do know this. He looking crazy as a motherfucker right now.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah. That's what he gets to playing with Mac. Those kids was just weird. Oh, he's so bad at him. He kept sitting in me shit, bro. I was like, why is he sending me this shit? But what's he sending you? Is he, like, trying to be aggressive towards you?
Starting point is 01:16:22 Or he's trying to send me warnings through you? I think I'm fucking around, bro. What do you say? Click it. Mentioned you in their story. He keeps in it. He's just, like, tagging you in all his story posts. Tagging me in a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Trying to get some likes. I don't know what this one is. What is this shit? He's done it with some gang members or some shit. I don't know what the fuck this is. Yeah, he like reposting old photos where he, like, soft off he'll for it in the studio and shit. trying to be like look I got friends
Starting point is 01:16:47 he posted this today she leaves what a psycho are you talking about you're going to do gay porn he's out here like fantasizing about me doing gay shit yeah yeah yeah yeah because before I blocked him my last messages from him this is hilarious my last messages hopefully
Starting point is 01:17:10 yeah I could see it yeah like it's all shit about Lennon just over and over all he was like text talking shit Yeah, dude, like just over and over Just saying weird little shit about how he thinks I'm gonna be gay And how he thinks that my like, you know It's just like weird I was like bro He was really telling you that shit
Starting point is 01:17:30 I gotta block you like he's literally it was almost like Sexual fantasy type stuff showing up in my fucking DMs And text I had to block him on both That's crazy Yeah I don't really understand what goes through his mind or anything But it's just weird to see somebody who seemed like they had a ton of talent at one point.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Because when he first went on Vlad, we were all very, very intrigued by him. Like, oh, wow, like a Chinese fucking gangbanger who's got all these crazy stories and just did all this prison time. Everybody was locked in. But, man, whatever, like, potential he had, his life meter was all the way full.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I got some crazy shit. One of my spies sent me some crazy shit on him. Trans stuff? No, like some below-the-age stuff. I don't know. Ain't anything about that. Yeah, sitting pictures and shit. They got the picture.
Starting point is 01:18:24 I'm in. Yeah, I told him I want to fuck with it. Save it in the world, the war chest, sitting in the beast, case his ass get out of line. He got out of line with me. I'm going to fry his ass up. So Beast has a war chest?
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah. Yeah, we got 33 spies, 34. 34 of his he spot 33 and a third. Wow. And all they do, anybody here speak on me, they go dig and get.
Starting point is 01:18:48 get shit. Anybody think may potentially I might get into it with, they dig shit and get shit so when shit pops up on stage with them, they'll start sending it to me, information on. See, that's my problem is that I start arguing with somebody like Chinamack, and I'm actually arguing with him about, like, the ideas that
Starting point is 01:19:06 are present here. Like, no, I need to have a huge haul of, like, dirt on people to just trot out as soon as they say something. But how are you going to have dirt on somebody that's really shallow? Yeah. Yeah. What does he do? There's not a lot going on upstairs from what I could tell.
Starting point is 01:19:22 What does he do, though? Like on a daily basis? I kind of wonder that too. It seems like he just sort of hangs out and just tries to. Oh, no. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know he knows a few people.
Starting point is 01:19:34 You know, maybe he tied in like that. Hmm. Maybe. Did you see the clip of G-Face saying that he tried to pay a podcaster $20,000 to set up milk? I seen that. Should we play it for the people? Yeah, play it for that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:52 You don't like milk? The fuck's he using the cereal? Milk? No, we're not logged in again, so we're not going to be able to play it on here, I'm thinking. That sucks. But it's on the No Jumper Instagram, or I'm sure you can find it on YouTube if we were to search up G-Face Milk 7-4. I think Milk just made videos talking shit about him. And so he wants his revenge on milk.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Actually, that is true because at one point GFace asked me for milk's address. And I mean, I used to be in possession of that information at one time in my life, but I did not have it at that moment, so I was not able to provide it. But apparently he went one step further. He told drinks with jinx, shout out to jinx, another local L.A. podcaster. He told him they would give him $20,000. if he were to help him set up milk. Now, even if Jinks doesn't have a moral obligation against setting someone up,
Starting point is 01:20:56 I would tell him probably not worth it because if soon as you get the reputation of setting people up as a podcaster, it's probably going to be hard for you to get podcasts in the future. As well as that, I mean, I don't know exactly what terms they're on, but milk is from relatively, affluent neighborhood that you probably don't want to be starting a fucking gang war with, right? Geeface, you know, he's from a side to what they can handle it? True.
Starting point is 01:21:29 But still, like, if I were him, probably wouldn't want to, like, you know, create something that serious off of someone making YouTube videos about you. I don't know if they would go to war about some shit like that. I don't know either. It just seems like, you know, if you start setting people up on a podcast, then that might be the kind of thing that people might be ready to go to war about. But I don't know. Either way, I just wouldn't recommend it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I've never said anyone up. I wouldn't never do that. It's like you've got to have some integrity in this game. Right. You said you're never setting anybody up? Nobody? But just by nature of us, we used to do the podcast in like a very public location,
Starting point is 01:22:10 multiple different situations where people basically like accused me of setting people up. I can't even imagine what it would be like, if you actually did try to get somebody lined up, it would be all bad. Somebody would tell. Somebody would probably tell at a certain point. But, like, yeah, I did an interview with this dude,
Starting point is 01:22:26 Rob Banks from Florida. I was just writing about this in the history of No Jumper thing. And while we're doing the interview, some ops of his basically, like, showed up at the door, and there was a lot of screaming back and forth. And I'm standing there in the clip, just looking white as fuck, just like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:22:44 What the, like, I didn't know what the fuck to do. luckily they weren't holding from what I could tell nothing really took place no fights no nothing just a lot of yelling back and forth it was actually very strange oh shout out to the busters
Starting point is 01:23:00 you take the time to pull up on something so I'm supposed to get pulled up on to the busters that's a fight you know who lefty gunplay is yet hell no oh my god you're gonna fucking love that motherfucker probably ain't shot shit lefty gun play just did nine years in prison. He shot up a party is what I basically ascertained. But my interview with him just came
Starting point is 01:23:22 out and let me tell you, he's taking the Raza World by Storm. Oh, this is a Mexican dude. They love him. Where are you from? He's from a Baldwin Park, but he pronounces it. Baldwin Parkway. Baldwin Parking. Like no, no syllables at all. He's a rapper or some. He'd be rapping. Yeah, his music is pretty good too. They're calling him the Mexican Krip. The what? The Mexican Crip Mac. He was not very enthusiastic about being called that,
Starting point is 01:23:52 but whatever energy Crip Mac has brought to Crippen, I think it's fair to say that lefty gun play is basically bringing that level of passion and dedication to his race. Did you hear what this Mexican had to say? You're pointing at the mic. Did you hear what he had to say? Which Mexican, sure. I don't know this Mexican.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Hey, the Mexican said it, not me. I fucking said what I said. Mexican rappers fucking son. Swiftie Blue, Kito Ranas. Now, leave the rapping to the blacks. And if somebody feels disrespected or saying racist shit, no. I'll tell you right now. Mexicans are comedians.
Starting point is 01:24:44 And they make good el-lottes. Blacks are funny. And actors. like on some real shit your music sucks you're a PC case and you guys are fucking lanes because you know what
Starting point is 01:25:01 real cholo people up to their neighborhoods you're gonna catch them they ain't out there they ain't out there like that but you know what even though I'm out here in Arizona and I'm a Sudanian from California I'm on the block
Starting point is 01:25:14 I don't give a fuck I'm that stupid like that so why I fucking said what I said shout out to my man Runchy, Montana. He said that to me. There's a lot of good Mexican rap out there, right? Hey, I didn't say it.
Starting point is 01:25:29 He said it. He's Mexican. Cyprus fucking Hill, man. Last time, it's a black guy in that group. Yeah, but I mean, Be Real is like the main rapper. Last time, I had opinion about something about what I wouldn't do. Snow the product. The world was crazy.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Snow the product. No, I fuck with snow. We even got women. King Liljee Lil Rob Cap G ain't heard about Cap G in a minute We got burner Throw burner in the mix
Starting point is 01:25:57 We got OGZ Why is fat Joe on here Any Puerto Rican? He's Latin Big Pond also Puerto Rican I'm quite sure This is just what Google is serving up to me
Starting point is 01:26:08 But even some of the people That he named off right there That Chita Ranas guy, he's hard That Mexican OT He's coming up fast as fuck Hey bro, I don't know No, he's that. We could do this all day.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Shout out Phoenix Flexon. Mm-hmm. I mean, drummer boy. I mean, you know, honestly, like, yes, the black clearly dominate hip-hop. Coyote. But there's a lot. Who, what, they left your nest, huh?
Starting point is 01:26:35 Oh, they still with me. I saw a video of them announcing that they were free as birds, and it was like click-baited to say they announced that they were leaving Wack 100. They never said my name. I know. I watched the clip, waiting. hear your name and they didn't say your name and I was wondering did I just get click-dated? You're never
Starting point is 01:26:52 because we're always together. So what, you have them in a lifetime contract? I don't do lifetime contracts with none of my artists. It's just the respect is there so it was always lifetime. Did you set them up with Shack? They set their cell phone up with Shack. I mean, I
Starting point is 01:27:08 introduced their music to Shack. I seen Shack a bunch of their videos. Did you have you ever known anyone throughout the years? I feel like enough time has passed that I can ask this question. I have a friend who for a period of time would be would make extra money by driving down to san diego going to a specified location there was a guy who was paying him to do this going to this location and then he would have to like call a number and then a bunch of mexicans dirty as fuck like barely
Starting point is 01:27:38 having clothes on and shit like would run out of a bush and get into his car and then he would drive them back to l.A. and drop them off at like a safe house so basically like because the transition is that we were just talking about the coyotes, the rap group. This is called being a coyote, basically transferring immigrants illegally from Mexico into America. And he was getting money to do this. And I didn't even really believe him when he told me about it until one day he sent me a selfie like this.
Starting point is 01:28:04 And it was him driving the car. And there was three fucking Mexican dudes dirty as fuck in the back who had clearly been picked up in this way. And he was making money doing this. And when he told me about it, I was just like, Jesus Christ, dude. Like, what the fuck kind of paying him? I think he was maybe getting like a thousand. thousand bucks a person or something. Sound about right?
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah, see, they know. They probably done it. A couple of coyotes in the room. Do you ever hear about people doing this? Because I guess it's not that on common. I understand what coyotes do and who they are. I understand our borders. But why do you say they have to be dirty, bro?
Starting point is 01:28:40 I was just being descriptive because they've literally been, you know, traveling on foot for days and days, climbing over fucking barbed wire or swimming through lakes. and shit, like, they look terrible in the footage. They were like tired and soiled. You called them dirty-ass Mexican. You said soiled? Yeah, man, you know.
Starting point is 01:28:58 If we look up dirty in the thesis, it's going to tell us another word, it's soil. First you said it bragged about using the N-word, and now you're saying dirty-ass Mexicans. And then you're on Crip Mac talk about he needs to use Beijing. You said that. I didn't say that. China Mac. I was with an Asian girl yesterday, and she told him. She don't even have to shave her legs.
Starting point is 01:29:21 She don't grow hair? I know. So she's like the littles, the little mouses. But I've had that a few times. Remember the littles? The littles? It was a kid's the car too. I don't know the lids.
Starting point is 01:29:31 There were little mouses in the wall. No. But they were hairless? Yeah, one of them looked like Chinamack too. Really? Yeah. When I'm resembled them. I heard Chinnamac might be like moving to China.
Starting point is 01:29:42 They had whoop China Mac's ass. It's a pretty meek culture. I feel like they would just leave. They would whip his ass. He's probably the end ball. of China like they're just gonna look at him like he's like the most intimidating one hell no I don't know man I did see one fight in China one time as a bunch of guys all wearing suits fighting outside a restaurant and I could not believe it because it's such an orderly society
Starting point is 01:30:04 like everybody just kind of plays by the rules out there and then I see all these motherfuckers kung food fight and I'm like what the fuck like it was just so shocking I had been there for a week the littles the little rotten tomatoes The Littles... Bro, you never seen this? No. That's crazy. You play a fair of kids or something?
Starting point is 01:30:26 No, I watched it as a kid. You ever watch Lama Lama, Red Pajamas? No. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. I'm familiar with all kinds of weird kids programming now through my kid. Oh, you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Why would you call it weird? It's just stuff that's new. Does your kid watch the, um, Tom of Jerry? No, not really. No? Sesame Street and then, like, Disney movies are really kind of a man. Sesame Street. Well, she's actually kind of.
Starting point is 01:30:50 old for Sesame Street now she don't really give a fuck about it. They're making a killing. You know why? They never have to change shit. Sesame Street? I know because that's what I watched when I was a kid and then she's, you know, it's 40 years later. She's watching the same shit. Same shit. Same shit. Exact same shit. That's why a lot of those Sesame Street music videos are like 50 million views on YouTube and shit. Multiple generations of people watching it. You didn't ever change anything.
Starting point is 01:31:14 You don't go to do nothing. You listen to state of hip-hop. I've been really thinking about it. What you think? Where we're at? Yeah. I mean, it's certainly not boom times like it once was. No.
Starting point is 01:31:29 But that being said, I think we're in a very advantageous position as people who have, you know, well-entrenched situations within hip-hop, so I'm not too worried. Anything could go. I would love another SoundCloud rap-esque era. That'd be great for the bottom line. I know the all way of doing things is overweight. What's the old way? Whatever the fuck it was.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Street cred. Tattoos on the face. I think the whole sound has to change. I agree the sound probably is changing. But okay, like it still feels like most of the time when you see a young rapper getting a bunch of attention. They quite often have a face full of tattoos and a bunch of cursions. and a bunch of crazy-ass war stories. And a 50-round clip.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I don't think. I think the labels is bad enough from it, and I don't think the people care anymore. It's tough to impress them. You know what I think is going to crack? A skateboarder. A skateboard rapper. BLP kosher.
Starting point is 01:32:47 You familiar? I think that'll work. Jewish rapper with big ass, Wick dreads sticking out of his head He's a really good skateboarder I'm being real like all the gangster shit All the Glock switch Lean
Starting point is 01:33:03 Perk That shit over with Yeah I mean certainly like you don't have like a whole nation That is just like amazed by some young kid Talking about Pop and Perks like 2016 that was pretty much like You could just become a millionaire if you were like
Starting point is 01:33:21 writing songs about Perkinsodes. When you think about this whole bullshit, this is bullshit. You see the shit they said about Gilly, the disrespectful shit? You seen that shit? I can't believe that he even responded to it. If I'm him and I'm doing an interview, and they ask me that question, I'm saying, I don't want to answer that question. Because you shouldn't even give attention or light to trolls.
Starting point is 01:33:43 For the record, he's talking about, Gilly did an interview with somebody on barstool, and they asked him about how he felt about people saying that he had his kid. sacrificed, those of you will know that he had his kid. His kid got killed. His kid was probably 20 or like early 20s and he got killed in Philadelphia. He was a rapper,
Starting point is 01:34:03 street rapper of some sort. And I don't know exactly what happened, but he was murdered. He wasn't a street rapper. He was a rapper. Been to my studio. Gilly's from the streets. Quite naturally. He's going to identify when, you know, the streets of Philly,
Starting point is 01:34:19 but Gilly's kids, not in the streets like that. Like, Gilly's a dad. You know what I'm saying? But people who say he sacrificed his kids so his podcast could be successful. Like, what is the logic even here? Like, does someone come to you at some point in your life
Starting point is 01:34:35 and say like, hey. His podcast was already successful. We're going to make you a millionaire, but you got to kill your kid. Like, what the, he shouldn't have even responded to this. It's so stupid. So he says, okay, give me his success first, and then you're going to have him.
Starting point is 01:34:48 Yeah. Because by the time his son passed, That were always successful. Yeah. I mean, but there's always this. It's always this now. It's always like the dumbest opinion possible. It becomes not the mainstream opinion,
Starting point is 01:35:04 but like enough people acknowledge it and talk about it to the point where it almost has to be acknowledged by somebody like him. And I mean, you know, Lil Durk has the same thing. Oh, he sacrificed Vaughn so his career could be big. I mean, it's just like the dumbest idea. just get kind of propped up by these people who leave these comments. And it's because a lot of people just want to get the attention of the superstar,
Starting point is 01:35:28 the podcaster, the rapper, et cetera, that they'll just come with anything. And a lot of times they do get acknowledged. I mean, little Dirk has lyrics about how stupid the accusation of him sacrificing Vaughn was. But, I mean, he does have lyrics about it. So it's like these sort of troll people, they kind of know what they're doing, I think. Kodak, they're going to let him out or they're going to make him finish his sentence? I don't know. What is going on with that? They're saying they want to make him go back to the federal prison
Starting point is 01:35:57 and complete the sentence he had before Donald Trump pardon him. It looks like we got to reelect Trump. That's fucked up. But they lied on him. It wasn't even cocaine. Yeah, but what was it? Like oxycodone? Crushed up oxycodone?
Starting point is 01:36:15 What's going on? No, whatever he was, he had a prescription for it. Yeah. I have a cocaine. prescription as well. It wasn't cocaine, white guy. It was oxycodone, they said. Free Kodak.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Free Kodak, that's a fact. Let me ask you this. You previously said, and I didn't actually ask him about this, but you previously said you wouldn't sign a Mexican artist because you don't want to have to deal with the politics. That's not what I said. Well, that's a slight oversimplification. No, it's not slight as shit.
Starting point is 01:36:41 I said I wouldn't sign a Sourino. Ah, which is every Mexican rapper from L.A. No. And surrounding areas. No, all of them aren't Suningios. Who isn't? Few of them not. Coyote isn't.
Starting point is 01:36:57 They aren't? Fuck no. They're totally not affiliated. No. I didn't even know that was a thing. Okay. Do you understand why? Why?
Starting point is 01:37:07 That culture, that movement is very disciplined and is very controlled. So let's say outside of a Sudanese artist, right? The minute he blows up, I'm going to be approached. Right. I'm not going for it. So what they'll do is they'll control the artists. Whatever family member he got in the joint or county jail or whatever,
Starting point is 01:37:33 they're going to control that artist with that. Right? It's politics and that. And I know that. This is something I know. So for me that entering something like that, I got people with me, people that love me, people that, Come from where I come from
Starting point is 01:37:49 that's going to stand with me, right? Now I'm dragging it in to some shit, right? That I know I know it's going to bring a bad taste to the business. So I will help you. You come to me in like, yo, wag, man, we need help on this, points the right direction, need some beats, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:07 ads, YouTube, whatever, radio, whatever, no problem. As far as me entering a contract with them, I know at the end of the day, the politics will work against me. so I just choose not to do it. Now, a Mexican artist, not affiliate, all day.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Right. Lefty gunplay, definitely an affiliate. He's a sullenio. He's got an affiliate code. Yeah, so lefty, like, I want to highlight you, what's up, bro? Man, I want to sign until you can't do it. Okay, this was the conversation that me and him got to do.
Starting point is 01:38:42 But if he asked me for, like, help, point him in the right direction for shit, no problem. Yeah, that's actually a great idea. I would love to bring him on here. I'd so want to see how you guys get along. But lefty gunplay told me he has an only offense. Doing a way. He said he hasn't posted on it yet, which is confusing.
Starting point is 01:39:01 But he said he has an only fan. And I told him, I said, well, at one point, Crip Mac was doing a little bit of stuff on OnlyFans. And from what he told me, it was issued down from the higher-ups at Crip In. saying we don't really approve of people who are flying our blue flag having an only only fence all I said the lefty gunplay was I feel like being that the Southsiders allegedly run such a strict tight program that there might be a similar policy at
Starting point is 01:39:36 serenios ink I know what Serenios are but the rest of the shit you had and towards you playing with they shit no I'm just saying I don't think that they're really going to be eager to let one of their own be out here slinging dick. It might be a weird look for them. Oh, that's bad work. What? So lefty, man, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:40:01 I can't even call you that after he said this. I ask lefty, I go, you got a big dick. He goes, it could be better. He's like, I do, but it could be better. Or something like that. Yo. He's so sick. You're going to fucking love him.
Starting point is 01:40:17 You got to watch my interview. How does this do? Well, he got nine years. He did nine years when he was like 18 or 19, so he's probably like a little under 30. 28, something like that. Yeah. Well, you know, one thing about Sunangles,
Starting point is 01:40:31 they go through a crash course in there. You know, if he's still good. I don't know if he's good. I don't know if he's bad. He said he was cellmates with Jab 5 at one point. In the county? Yeah. Or in prison?
Starting point is 01:40:42 I don't know. That's crazy, right? I love the idea that people just going in there and having all these rare collabs. It might have been. I found out over the weekend it's his dude named Boogah Brim.
Starting point is 01:40:58 Boog of Brim. I'm very into that name. He's on a S&Y yard, sensitive knees yard. He's the brother to do Sims. Doe Sims is telling everybody. Sensitive needs. I guess do Sims found out that that dude has some relations with, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:12 and he mad at his brother. He found out his brother that knocks something down as close to him. So he's letting us know that his brother, sensitive needs yard. Again, you know, we all thought the dude was like stand-up dude, but, uh, Boogabrim, your brother, he's letting us know these things from sensitive needs or S&Y.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Is sensitive needs, straight roll up? Is it comparable to PC? Is it the same? Definitely PC. It's the same thing. Definitely PC. Book of Brim PCed up. Duceil's brother, yeah, la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-l-a-law-a-law-mante.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Boogabrim, I apologize for being a conduit for this information. I have no idea what he's talking about. I'm just a dude named Bugabrim. The name's crazy, right? And his brother, Llamonte, aka DuC Sims, let us know that his brother did some things, and he was upset. And I'm sitting here thinking about this shit, like, why would your brother want to put you out there like that? Your brother, like your real brother. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:42:09 Like, how you said your wife would never do you like that? Who would make your real brother to do things to where he exposes you like that? What do you think he did? You said he knocks some shit down? He said something, you know, maybe, you know, usually people get emotional about their chicks. Oh. You know, you get to find out shit. You go to them text messages, boy, you never know what you'll run into.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Sounds exhilarating. Why does Blueface owe the strip club $14 million? He didn't make the court date. I paid the attorney about three weeks ago. He'd get us back in court. I'll get that reverse. So that will get overturned. Yeah, I'll get that reverse.
Starting point is 01:42:56 6-9 had a similar thing, though, right? Where, like, it was announced that he owed millions and millions of dollars to this person that he had this brief altercation with and then it got overturned. Why has that not happened to this judgment that was put against game? He just recently talked about it on his Vlad interview, but there was the girl in the reality show and he was, like allegedly put his finger in her pussy or some shit and then he didn't show up for the court date. Yeah, he didn't show. Well, it wasn't that he didn't show up.
Starting point is 01:43:21 He just had a bunch of dinner work done the day before. And the dentist told him he couldn't fly. Right. To a point to where he said, give me the judge's number. I'll call in. He called in. It's on record. The dentist called in.
Starting point is 01:43:36 They got it on record. The type of work he had done, something about the elevation or what, I don't know what it was, that he couldn't fly. So the judge didn't give a fuck. He went there along with the proceedings anyway. So we filed for appeal, got caught up, tied up in that. We fought them, fought him, he fought him. They ruled against him, so he went to the next circuit
Starting point is 01:44:02 and the next circuit in the next circuit. But that's a situation that, you know, I'm kind of like didn't know a lot about because I wasn't part of the reality show. Okay. I kind of had, I didn't want them to do it for my reasons, right? Then it was things that had happened on the road that I had to fly out for. Remember when gaming thug had that little thing?
Starting point is 01:44:29 Yeah. Yeah, like that was doing that. And I was trying to give him to fly back then from the last. That was serious at some point, huh? Yeah, I had to fly out. That was a real serious shit. I had to fly out to me about 50, 60 heads to work that out. You had to fly out 50 or 60 heads.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Oh, I had to fly out. They was there already. My team was in Atlanta. But I had to get there to bring them out. and I had to draw thugged them out so I hit the Linux mall like 60 deep and I knew they would come out and we called Roscoe in the parking lot
Starting point is 01:45:04 who's Roscoe? Peeway. Okay. We called Peewee in the parking lot and brought him to me, talked to him and I had him get Doug on the phone. I knew us hitting that Linux ball like that was going to. Then you would find a YSO affiliate.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Yeah. And got Thug on the, phone had a conversation with thug because we had a you know we cool when you show up as a group of 60 people that i'm going to assume look pretty intimidating on average at the lenox mall 60 of you as a group does the security come over and say like uh hey y'all need to like not what you're gonna say i don't know it's not a thousand people in the mall right we just 60 of them right and so that so you get thug on the phone and what's the conversation like i get we cash pee we love And you didn't have a better way to contact Thug at that point?
Starting point is 01:45:52 We catch Pee We lurk because he didn't want to talk. We catch Pee We lurking in the parking lot. I'm bringing him to us. Time to get Thug on the phone. He gets Thug on the phone. Thug, I'm here with Wack. And about 60 people you want to talk to you. I talked to Thug.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Put him a game on the phone. Peewee's there with us. He's by itself. Right? So the just of respect was, you know, letting Peewee get back in one piece. And they talked at the conversation, and it smoothed it over. You know, we had to do like two, three days in Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:46:32 And it was an edgy two, three days. There are moments where you thought things were going to get very tricky? Definitely. Really? And game, you don't lay down. Flying out 60 game members, holy shit, that's a lot of flogers. No, I'd fly them out. My team was there.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Oh. I just had to get there. Okay. I was here in County. And I guess whatever was said happening in Louisiana. So once I got there, you know, shout out to my boy special. You know, I got a squad, ain't pretty much about land on that soil. I got a team there.
Starting point is 01:47:07 But it worked out. But that, I ain't going to lie. It was real edgy. Real edgy. Like at any given sake. Because games still want the club, strip club, party. Go here. Go here.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Go there. Go eat after our spots. So it was, it was, it was, it was, it was edgy. I want to live that rapper life. Shit, no you don't. You sleep till noon. Shout out to incredible diapers. Go hit Lennox.
Starting point is 01:47:35 No, you don't. Get an outfit. Go to the studio maybe. You like go to the club. You go to a nice restaurant. You go to the strip club. You're just doing cool shit all day. And you stay up late as fuck.
Starting point is 01:47:48 You know, anytime I stay up late, it fucking sucks because I wake up at like seven in the morning. So by the time it's two in the morning, I'm staying out, it's just like I'm fucking done. I got nothing left. Yo, man, I'm gonna be real. I mean, listen, unless it's some shit I gotta be there for, I didn't heard all the music, I didn't met everybody,
Starting point is 01:48:09 you know, but unless it's a new artist, something building. You know, I get in there, do it, I got to do and get out. Yeah, I notice. Like, I tried to get you on my birthday. No show. Went to the blue face show that you told me about. No show. I've never seen you out, really past like eight or nine.
Starting point is 01:48:24 I was out of town for the Blueface show. I'm never going to be the common man. I'm never going to be where you expect me to be. That doesn't make sense. And by that you mean you're never going to go out at night? I'm out every night. I just may not be where you expect me to be or where you want me to be. I feel like you're not out at night.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Always. I've never seen a pitcher, really. I'm always out at night. because my whole thing is like either I'm at my studio or I'm at meetings or in other people studios you know shit like that
Starting point is 01:49:03 I've managed to build do you think I'm gonna be in a motherfucking I'm not a club guy I'm only in a club when we're picking up a bag right no bag no whack out of club I don't drink I don't smoke I don't even get dressed
Starting point is 01:49:18 I will go to clubs in the sweatsuit they got to let me in I'm here to get my bag get the bottles get everybody in. 60 minutes is up. You want to stay a little longer. Cool, time to go home to the crib.
Starting point is 01:49:31 At the end of the day, you got to remember, I bring sand to the beach. My woman be with me. I don't go to the club or meet a female. I don't drink. I'm standing around
Starting point is 01:49:41 watching 30 people in the area that's supposed to be made designed for 10. Right? A bunch of motherfuckers spent three, four thousand on the outfit and can't nobody see you
Starting point is 01:49:52 because the lights is dim. You know what I'm saying? How much does Blueface get paid to go to a strip club? Depending on what region we're in. He can range from anywhere from 25 to 40,000. Jesus Christ. Depending on what region we're in? We're in our backyard.
Starting point is 01:50:05 You know, we got to get on that plane to get there. It's going to cost you. During the Avian Awards, me and Lena are hosting an event at a strip club, like a party. Like the first time we've ever got paid to do the strip club booking thing. Where's it at? In Vegas. Was it Floyd's Club? I can't remember the name.
Starting point is 01:50:26 But I will announce it closer to the date. But that just really made me feel like, oh, shit, I got to try to figure out a strip club situation in L.A. Like, we should be doing this semi-regularly. No, you definitely could do it with a total different crowd into work. There you go. You know, Nick got owns a bunch of properties through Hollywood. Really? Nick Cannon.
Starting point is 01:50:48 No, this is real shit. I guarantee if I call him tonight and he got a few of them up. That shit could work. I don't know. You guys will bring a totally different crowd. She's sick right now. So tomorrow, I have to do plug talk without her. I got to bang the girl and interview the girl myself.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I've only done this one other time. Oh, and then actually, well, the Selena Powell thing, but that was different. So you got to bang the girl just you and her one-on-one? Yeah. Oh, that's crazy. That's a whole new world. Is she going to be watching? No, she's going to be at home probably sleeping.
Starting point is 01:51:23 She's not feeling very good. Oh. Hey, listen, man, I can relate to your relationship. Can you? Yeah, I can relate. You live a great life. You don't have to hide anything. Well, I've got to have some stuff.
Starting point is 01:51:38 What? You get the bang four or five different chicks a week. Yeah, but there's other stuff that you can't tell your wife about. Like what? Papa Norco with the homies. Don't tell her about that. She notices you're going an extra five, 10 minutes in bed?
Starting point is 01:51:56 I don't know. Maybe it's the pain pill. The fuck is a norco. You'll find out one day. I got to take a shit. What's a norco, bro? It's a pain pill. I got to take a shit.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Well, I'm not going to talk to you if you take a shit. No, if I took a shit right here right now, that would be flagrant. We're not, listen. I'm proud. We just did like two hours without a lot to talk about. This is Adam and Wax show. Oh, can I do that too? He got to take a shit.
Starting point is 01:52:22 So this shit is a rap. That's it. We out. We out. out.

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