No Jumper - China Monai On How Sexyy Red Is Ruining The Community, Being Submissive & More

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

China Monai talks about her upbringing, her first regular job, being submissive, says Sukihanna and Sexyy Red are causing women to be masculine, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://no...jumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Sharp Tame. No Jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, we got a beautiful, talented young lady by the name of China Monet. Yes, sir. What's going on, baby? Talk to me. Man, look, I've been wanting to get you up here.
Starting point is 00:00:22 That's why I hit ugly money up. When I seen you rapping and you were sitting there doing your shit, I said, oh, whoa. She, hey, I promise you. I wanted to get this interview before you blow. Yes, yes, yes. Because I know you're going to go. And I just want to be one to have the interview before you do. Oh, you smart?
Starting point is 00:00:39 Yeah, I got the first one. I got the footage, man. No, most definitely I appreciate this honor. How are you? I'm gracious. Yeah. Where's your man? You said you were saying it earlier.
Starting point is 00:00:50 You said you had a rough morning, long morning. Yeah. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Trying to get to you. Trying to get to you. Trying to get to you. Well, you took me. What happened?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Okay. So I didn't get no sleep for real. I supposed to get out my makeup and nails done prior, but that didn't work out. So I kind of took a little cat now. By the time I woke up, it was trying to get on the plane. So soon I got on a plane, had a connecting flight. I almost missed that flight because it was so big and spaced out in, what, Delaware, Colorado, somewhere we had to go.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And it was just a mess. And I'm like, oh, my God, I got to get there all the time. Like, I got to get there. This is very important. He's going to kill me. I am. I was gonna kill you if you were gonna show up. So we were running with all kind of bags.
Starting point is 00:01:36 It's just going crazy. You were definitely, huh, not the type of bags you wanted busing running through there, huh? Right. Oh yeah. Hungry, didn't eat, hell like a mess. I just, you know. So you're from Auburn.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I'm from Albina, Georgia. Say it how you said. I'm from Albany, George. I want to say it like you do. I'm trying to catch you, you got to let it roll off the tongue. I'm in the West Coast, baby. So you know it's, we use it. We don't relax our ars like that.
Starting point is 00:02:02 You got me around here like, yeah, who coming to the party? You know what I'm saying? We call the party. Yeah, we, I like that about you, baby. So talk to me. When did you even decide to start getting into the music, baby, the music thing? I got into the music by mistake, for real. I never thought about being an artist.
Starting point is 00:02:19 I was shy. I used to write to myself in my notepad in high school to express my feelings. And that's how they came about when me writing music. and then like my uncle, he had a studio out there in Tampa, Florida, and he started a label called Street Team Entertainment, and he wanted to try something else. So I just got it in the book. I was like, I want to give it a try, like, just to see how I go,
Starting point is 00:02:44 because I'm, like I say, it's just right now things I feel. But I never put it in the format as a song. I just wanted to see that sound. Yeah. And then he, like, noticed that I was really good at it. He was like, oh, you sound good? I was like, real. And so that's when I started taking it seriously, like, perfecting it,
Starting point is 00:02:58 Like how to actually put a record together. Like, perfecting my images, looking as an artist. Like, all the things that do become artists, I had to perfect it over the years. And so, like, when I'm left and moved to Tampa. I mean, I left from Tampa to move back to Albany. And I had started getting out into the music scene with other artists and stuff. Because I didn't really deal with people out there in my city.
Starting point is 00:03:20 So when I got to the studio, I ended up running into, like, Sean Jay from Phil Mob. He was there. So he was kind of helping me along the way of, like, perfecting my craft and everything. But you know how men are in the game. So I was like, I kind of stood back because I was like, I'd rather just sit back and learn on my own versus y'all doing all this issue. Right. So, yeah, I kind of did that.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And then just got really good at it until one day, well, 2020 around the pandemic. I think around the time boomer had that showcase the one Fujian on. Yeah. And I was going to go to it. I was working. I was working at Allergarn. I had a job at there for like 60s. I was cooking, for real.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I cooked for real. I don't think I planned me. So, yeah, I ain't have enough money. I couldn't get all. So I was like, I'm going to just miss out on you or whatever. Not knowing Nietzsche was the judge. Yeah. I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I don't even interrupt. Everybody got their time. I'm kind of upset right now because I want to know what the fuck we didn't get no olive garden today. Oh, God. I didn't work there. It's going on mortgage. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You want some breadsticks, church? Anthony, I got you. Salad and breadsticks for everybody. Uber eats. I'm just talking with you, baby. Continue to talk to me. Yeah. So, um, Nichi was the judge, one of the judges or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I didn't know that. But I ended up running across him on Instagram, and he had his own showcase. So I had, um, sitting in my pitching stuff on my flyer and everything to do it. But I didn't get to do it because I had to work. So I guess he kind of noticed. scene that I was like jumping in and out type thing. So he inboxed me out of nowhere and he was like, let's have a sit down. So I was like, okay, cool, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So I got off work. As soon as I got up of work, I drove to Atlanta, which is like two and a half hours with my work clothes on, Matt Nichi. We sat down in a restaurant, chopped it up. In Olive Garden attire. In my all of garden and attire. That was my plan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I wanted that bad. The most businessman slash ratchet and shit I've ever heard of mine. entire life. It's like you want to hate it, but you got to love it. You know what I'm saying? You got to love that for real because that's work ethic. I love to hear that. That's ambitious and having some drive to get your ass off from work.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah. Rush to the foot. Like I ain't got time to change nothing. You probably try to fix a little bit of it up in the car real quick. You know what I'm saying? As you move it and just to get in there and really have to base it off you had to be crazy a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Right? Like going there with no type of a pier on to where it's like, And not even saying that you're not a beautiful girl, but you walking in there looking regular as hell. I was regular as hell. Coming here and talking about changing your life. Yeah, he was looking crazy, but he was more so like shop because he's seen like, whoa, you're really serious.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And I was like, yeah. So that night he went to the studio and I always, like I said, I always just write. But that night I actually freestyle the record. And I don't know if because I was nervous. And I was like, I can't mess up. I got him in the other. And I actually did it.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And he was like, whoa, that's dope. It was an actually dope weapon when we put it together. So as I left that night, I ended up driving back to Albany. So he kept calling me to come back and forth to record records. But this time, he didn't know I stayed in Albany because I was coming back and forth like that. He thought I was lived in Atlanta. I was there recording three, four times out of the week. So you didn't even tell him?
Starting point is 00:06:51 No. Don't you might live around the corner? Yeah, driving two and a half hour, then Asperator. As money, that's for nothing just was coming because I was serious. Yeah, and then it got to the point where he was like, I see how driven and, you know what I'm saying, hardworking that you are. Like, I want to be your manager. And I was like, oh, my God, for real?
Starting point is 00:07:13 He's like, yeah, he's like, I'm going to be your manager. He was like, we ain't got no budget like that for real, whatever. But we're going to make some worry. I said, okay, cool. I said, I don't get that much money, but I put up what I got and, you know, if you can match me, we could do it like that. And he was like, five, honey. I was giving up $500 every week.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And when I gave him like my third $500, he was like, stop. And working at Olive Garden? Yeah. I mean, I'm not trying to talk shit here. You know what I'm saying? But when I really look at the fact here, I'm like, damn, to give a $500 every week working at Olive Garden, you definitely missed a couple things. Giving that up. Like, whether it's just some shit, huh?
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, I'm a mother. I have a seven-year-old. At the time, she was like four. Yeah, so at the time you're like You know, you wasn't really in position to be giving up $500 a week No, staying with my grandma Still paying a car note
Starting point is 00:08:04 Got my baby girl, you know what I'm saying Car notes are good Yeah Car notes help your credit It's okay You paid them on time, right? You always paid them on time You always went to the grace period
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, I paid it on time I had a lot of bills I stay with my grandma Yeah You gotta help grandma out too Yeah, Chris member Grandma believe in a dream She saw she believed in what you had going on?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Thanks. My whole family, yeah. They most definitely believe in me. Like I said, I had to leave my baby girl back home. So they most definitely helped me where, too, as well. When I moved to Atlanta. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You was leaving her as you had to go drive that two and a half hours? I was about to say, if you're taking the baby with you, you're the bad mother-and-dog, straight-up. Five hundred a week, working at Olive Garden, driving two and a half hours to go do, like to go record. you'm saying, and then having to possibly take the baby. If you said you was taking the baby, I was like, where the fuck have you been? Right. You are holding it down.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I'm not even going to lie. What about me now? I'm a risk taker. Yeah. I don't care. You seem so outgoing. You know, you seem very outgoing. And, you know, I read some about you that, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:15 you used to like to write songs as a child. Yeah. And you were very shy when you would. Very shy. Like, you were very shy about music and singing and things like that. Where'd you find it, baby? I feel like the music bring it out of me. Like when I'm on stage performing, I'm all another person.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like, I'm actually becoming a person I always wanted to be that was in the words and papers. Because I couldn't be, I don't know, I just couldn't, I used to walk around with my head down. I used to not smile. I used to do all that because, I don't know, people used to pick on me and stuff like that. But I don't know, I came out of the music brought it out of me. So where now I got that company, it's on their Y'all have not play with me.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Yeah, no, you know, it's always those stories, right? That be the ones that got picked on, the ones that had to go through a lot, didn't really get a fair strike at certain shit. Come out swinging the hardest. So, you know what I'm saying? I understand most definitely, you know, especially having to come from being shy.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That's something like, damn, if you were shy, like, how'd you shake that? Because having to stand up, even having to get in there into a studio and record, there are still people in there that are just glued to you. Yeah. The entire time as you're in the booth,
Starting point is 00:10:27 you know what I'm saying? It's nerve-wracking, but I don't know. I just, like I said. How'd you overcome that is my question? Just my daughter, thinking about my baby girl, like trying to make a way out for her. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It was like, she can't be eating all of a lot of her. She can't be growing up on Olive Garden. No, we ain't eat breadsticks. She's going to grow up hating that shit. Straight up. My baby's boozy. She's going to grow up resenting that.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, I don't even. wanted breadsticks salad I'm fucking done she's bougie yeah she likes sushi she loves Asian cuisine she likes something like I like that so describe shout out to your baby too thank you shout to tell you love you describe the process of making the single submissive okay so it's how she's how it happened right I'm in the studio chilling in my thought process I was trying to come up with some other type of record But Nietzsche came out in the blue I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:26 China, I got an idea. I'm like, what, Nietzsche? He was like, you know how we kind of do Trigger Alert? You know, like the show Trigger Alert. He was going off on the masculine bitch. So he was like, I think we should turn it into a record.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And I was like, you know what, that's crazy because I was thinking like going in that direction but didn't know how to go about it. So we got in the studio together, came up with the ideas. And I was like, yeah, they do something by being submissive. Smithmsing women in demand too. They were like, oh, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Listen to me, that's how I found you. Really? Was through that. Yeah. And then I started doing my research on you, my homework. I'm like, okay, you've been f***ing around since like 2014, you've been really playing with it since then. But this, I feel like this one, the one that's going really good.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I said, hey, holy fuck up. Straight up. I said, I'm going to say it just like this. I said, who this little bitty bribed right here? And she's talking some, she's talking cash, shit. I just, I ain't going to lie to you. I fell in love with the song. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And I've seen a lot of people getting you a lot of positive feedback. A lot of men. A lot of women. Hey, but you know what, though? That's the whole game because if you look at it, right? You know, we always say it's women that support and, the music, even when albums and CDs and things were like that. Who was mine?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Mostly women. This was trying to bootleg. We're always trying to grab it in a different life. Right. So to see you try to turn it around now, like, your fan base is a lot of men. A lot of men. That's crazy because I'm like, it's hard to get that. Yeah. Because I ain't a lot. Like, shout out to sexy reds
Starting point is 00:13:12 and shout out to all them, but they got the ratchet, the girl fan base, like with them. You, on the other hand, have the man fan base. That's hard to do. Oh my God. That's hard to do, though.
Starting point is 00:13:24 They, like, protect this queen. Man, I'm going to get training. I'm going to buy your music. They go crazy. That's submissive. It was crazy. I never seen that. And it's like, everywhere I go in any little part of the city of Atlanta, like,
Starting point is 00:13:37 somebody know me because of that record. They're like, you, that cook, clean, shut up, girl. I was like, that. Say it. Say it for them again, said, say, baby. I cook, I clean. I shut up. Hey, Nani.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We needed it in that. In real life, yeah, and they want them, if I do it for real. I do. I don't cap in my rap. That's what my next question was. Was it just a good song to put it? Like, was it just catchy at the time and just a good track to put out? Because you know it was going to blow.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Her did you mean that? I meant that shit because it was so refreshing and it was just so dope because I'm actually like that. I'm naturally like that. Like, I was born to be a Missed Woman. So it was like, it was nothing for me. to make this record because I felt it. And, I mean, I'm pretty sure you can feel it when I put it in the record.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No. Now, I got to know, do you be getting nasty messages from like chicks? Oh, all the time. Like, do the chicks like this? I'm sure chicks. Cheap. He's still going to cheat. Like, all that.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Like, you're doing it for nothing. You're a slave. You're doing it for nothing. They're going crazy. I'm like, y'all is some better masculine people. What the hell? Man. What do you, China, what would you consider just from your definition?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Because your song is a very, it's submissive, is a very submissive song. Right. You know what's a masculine female to you? Like what's a couple of traits you feel like? It's just like, ugh, like this, what are you doing? That's too masculine. Yeah, masculine female who's loud, who don't listen. To nobody.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Nobody. Very disrespectful. want to be independent they swear that independent they bossing up on it it's deteriorating your lives As a man it sucks to be alone too sometimes I get it so
Starting point is 00:15:35 you know what I'm saying everybody needs somebody sometimes like that independent shit like even for a man like yeah we like to stand on our toes but like you said we like to have a woman that gonna cook clean fuck and shut up don't be independent be interpendent
Starting point is 00:15:49 break that down for us a little bit baby Basically, me and you, we depending on each other. We're helping each other. Do you know that that's all I ever try to kick to a lot of the that I've ever sat down with? Yeah, I'd be like, look, I'm not saying I'm not going to do for you, but why has it got to just be all on me? Because that's what they was taught,
Starting point is 00:16:10 and that's what they feel like is right, which is crazy, because... You want me to tell you something? Because I don't want it to sound stupid, so I'll break it down. I always looked at it even like this, right, in a regular household. the woman don't like even a woman won't respect the man that ain't doing shit like that respect if a mother's the only one doing it in the household and not putting it together guess what happens one's going to turn into the alpha and be like well you know that's why a lot of women they'll go cheat because they be like my man don't do shit shit I'm allowed to cheat I pay for everything yeah
Starting point is 00:16:42 they they may don't do this and men don't do the same motherfucking thing you know so I feel like there's an equal respect where y'all both are taking care of business that respect to always stay there. You know what I'm saying? You can't really disrespect the other person. Now, if they're not doing shit, they're just sitting back running their mouth, guess what? You've already, you might say bye-bye because you didn't send your spouse elsewhere. Yeah, most definitely. You got to, both got to bring peace in the home. That's the main thing. Like, I'm not the type of be, oh, you need to do this or I need to do that. I feel like we all need to come together because at the day, we all is one. Like, instead of tearing up the home, I'm trying to bring
Starting point is 00:17:19 back the home, but putting it in our type of content. You know what I'm saying? Because they listen that way. They wouldn't listen if I put it into a little regular Douglas song. But the way I did it, I got your attention. What's crazy, because you got the men attention. Facts. Like, that's really your fan base.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah, it is. That's why it would be spooky to see your shows because it's going to be a lot of n-dust. But before that, I always had the men, but now I really got them. Yeah. Because, like, some of my sons, I always see the guys turn up with me and stuff. Like, I had guys say, turn up. I'd be like, what? It'd be so funny.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But I don't know why women feel like being submissive is like being a slave or whatever. But submissing is not being weak, but it's rather being strong enough for one, each other to love on another, to grow with each other, to build each other to like, you know what I'm saying? Build this foundation. It ain't nothing about, I don't know, competition shit. Yeah. And that's what he feels like sometimes. So you say that submissive song, like it meant more to you to put out because you want people to hear this shit by the masses because nobody's talking.
Starting point is 00:18:22 like that. No. You know what I'm saying? Like, look, I just shut up. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, and for you to grab the men, man, man, that's hard to do. Yeah. Because in the drill.
Starting point is 00:18:35 It's into, I'm going to kill you when I see you at the corner store. When can you make, and you know who would, uh, said it. I've seen somebody make a quote about it saying, I think it was Jarl Ruh, Jarl Ruh said, let's, he wants to, let's make hip hop fun again. Right. Music's supposed to be fun. It is. Not damn, it's dying.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Like, the music has changed. It's changed so personal. It's changed drastically. You know what I'm saying? So to see you get in it, actually be able to tell your truth and have some fun as well is dope. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:07 How did you, I don't think you were like that all your life. How did you become a submissive woman yourself? I didn't know if a submissive woman because I used to be that choroso woman, that masculine bitch. I used to be that. I used to be that, oh, I'm independent.
Starting point is 00:19:23 I pay all my own bills and this and that and the third until I got an actual relationship where God actually taught me how to be the woman I am today and made me see the difference. Because when I wasn't listening and stuff, we was always fighting and fussing. And it was just a mess. It was never no peace in the home.
Starting point is 00:19:43 But when I converted it over to being a soft girl, getting in my soft girl era, everything changed. There was more peace in the home, more happiness. I get what I want. I learned like really that's my superpower. Yeah, I ain't go a lot to you. Like it's really, it's a turnoff for me for a hard to be. They don't want to eat it.
Starting point is 00:20:01 It comes off because like you said, it just comes off constantly challenging. It's like you said, it's not a competition, but it seems like that when she's being combative or resistant. Facts. I feel like society made it that way, though. Like with social,
Starting point is 00:20:20 conditioning meaning feminism. There's a lot of feminism empowerment going on. So now these women feel like a Beyonce. Which, Beyonce's married. Right. So it's all entertainment. And been married to the same nigga and making you us get back to the apartments.
Starting point is 00:20:42 No, that is true. I ain't going to lie. That is true. She's like, look at some of the bitches that you're looking up to. They got niggers. Yeah. Like even city girls all them. They got niggas. Bigas, don't. Just because y'all hear the music, y'all the bitches out here crashing. Facts.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And I just wish that it was told that way in the music, like the separated, like, hey, look, we just want y'all to know. You know what I'm saying? Like, we make this music, but, like, we're making it for, it's fun. That's not, it's not life. It's not life. It's just entertainment. And, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I always said that to it. Like, music ain't never been the same because they've taken it so personal to where everybody getting in their feelings or, they utilizing it the wrong way and creating all these different messages where it's just influencing people so terribly it's just I don't know it's crashing but I'm trying to say today I am saving today I ain't a lot baby you're saving something because for real like the music that you you put out like I said that's that submissive that was really was the one I think that's the one and that should really push you over the hump you know what I'm saying I know it is
Starting point is 00:21:48 you got a ring on your finger How long you been married? How long you've been with, how long you've been with your significant other now? Forever. Forever? Hey, I ain't even, that tells me a lot. When you're submissive it's what to get you, honey?
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah. Shut up sometimes. Yeah. And listen, he's going to lead you to the mission, not the hell. How do you feel like, how do you feel like music is causing women to be masculine? I feel like the music is very influential. So whatever they listen to, they're going to, I don't know, get into it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Like, they're going to go by it because they feel like it's right. It looks right, but it's really wrong. As far as like, like I said, a lot of sexy red Sukiannas, they say, fuck that nigger. You don't need no, nigger. Don't you feel like that's kind of like child's play? It is. Like something that a child would do, like listen to and go do something that they hear in music. And they do.
Starting point is 00:22:52 not knowing how to separate the music. I'm listening to the music. The music's not a part. It's not me because I'm just here to listen to the music. Hey, man, I'm just a couple of ears just trying to nod my head to something. But I do know how to understand that, hey, I'm in control of this. I can turn the switch on and off to this shit. It's like some people turn it on and they get stuck on.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And now they're moving around and you're right. Music is very influential. You know what I'm saying? But I just thought women, you know, were very smart creatures, very smart individual. Like, for real, know how to, Y'all, y'all are supposed to be the ones that mature faster. Yep. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Right? If that's what it was always said when I was growing up, they say women mature a little bit more faster than men do, you know. So to see like the women that I was seeing growing up compared to the women that I see now is a night and day fucking difference. Yeah. And I feel like, like you said with the question to answer your question, they're being rewarded by it because the men are liking it, commenting about it,
Starting point is 00:23:50 sharing it. The women's same difference. They reposting it and they, oh, look at this. It's five. They look good. Oh, I like this. It really is tearing up our community. It's tearing up, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:02 The real, I don't know. It's just amiss. How do you feel about like a woman living, like, you know, online versus like really just being out in the world, no social media and really living her life? Do you feel like the woman that gets out? in the world gets a little bit further? Do you feel like the women on the internet get further now? The women on the internet, because that's what people push them.
Starting point is 00:24:27 That's what they like. It's like, you gotta be popular. Yeah, the popular stupid shit gets more attention than the real shit. The shit behind the scenes, that ain't get no attention. You're right, because you can get online right now. Try to say some wholesome shit. Might get 50 likes. Back.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Three comments. I get on there and shake my ass. Shake your ass. Titty's hanging out. Boom, skyrocketed. Let's go. going crazy. But then they talk trash about society, like how society ain't shit,
Starting point is 00:24:55 but you motherfuckersity and glorify this shit. That's why I always say this, right? Because people be like, how do they watch, like, how do you guys, how do we watch this drama? You're watching it. Look at you. Who's sick? The person that's putting it out of the person that's watching it.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, they be encouraging bad behavior. And that's just crazy. And I blame the man, too. Talk about it. What you're playing, baby, come on. Let's go. You all be talking about the women who does those, you know what I'm saying? ungodly or unwoman like things, y'all, like I said, y'all praise it.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But instead of praising it, teach the woman, like how to be a woman. Because sometimes if you teach them, they'll listen. If she get this man to teach her to say the same thing and this man to say the same thing and this man to say the same thing, it's going to come to her eventually like, okay, too many men to say the same thing. Bingo. I look at it like this. That's why we got a lot of masculine bitches because they are learning from niggas.
Starting point is 00:25:50 That's what niggas show like niggas. I feel you. Niggas ain't probably more like softer on her. Like just like caress her mind a little bit more than just. We are emotional. We treat them like just like we treat the niggas in the streets. Like, nigga. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Calling out her name. I ain't going to lie. You're right. If you want to get through a woman head, you got to be compassionate with her. That's how we'll listen. And if she don't get the fuck away from her. Get away. You don't have to force.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Stop trying to force puzzle pieces that don't go together. That shit don't never work. Like I said, men stop rewarding bad behavior Yeah Speaking of men, how did you start working with ugly money? Shout to my nigga Ugly Money, by the way. We, like I said, we started off of a DM And like I said, he ended up becoming my manager
Starting point is 00:26:33 And that same year, I went on tour, did like a 56 city tour That was crazy. Ugly Money also does the hip-hop fraternity too, right? Yeah, they all-fying. We actually had the Ugly Money Music Summit April 6 through the 7. I'll be there HHF Award Show
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yes I will be there You'll be going to see My performance It's the eighth right It's the sixth through the seventh April I'll be there for it
Starting point is 00:26:58 And I'll perform it on the seventh I don't want to miss that That shit's just going to be live I ain't going to lie to you That's going to be crazy That's my favorite part I love performing You love performing
Starting point is 00:27:06 You love performing? Yes You're going to be looking good Of course Every time Every time Because we might have a round A little raffle
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh God Hopefully you got No, jumper. Hopefully you got his weather together because I'm fucking coming. I ain't going to lie to you. You was talking about the, you were talking about Phil, Mom, date from Albany, too, right?
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah, shout out to Sean Jay and Smoke. Yeah, they're from Albany, Georgia. That legends. Herod. Herod. Your mom used to date, smoke. Oh, God. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I don't know where their hair going on when they was younger. Well, I'm saying, that's maybe I'm like, that's a small world, right? Yeah. For you to land back around a circle. of people that your mama used to fuck with. That's crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Shout out my mama. Shout out to your mama, yeah. She's fucked with the boy Smoke. You don't remember none of that coming out? He said. He said it. But, you know, me and Smoke didn't end up redoing sick of being lonely, which was the dopest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Like, oh, my God, that record, I'm so sickle being lonely. Yeah, we read that day. Oh, my God, fire. Yeah. I can't wait to drop it. We got a definitely, what's for you, right? Because you've done shows. So I like this, the part, I like to ask artists like, what was your best show so far
Starting point is 00:28:22 and what was your worst show so far? My worst show. Start with the worst show. I like that. Dive right on the ugly shit. Yeah. I like that. Worst show.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Okay, my worst show. Was when me and he choose at Chit Chat on the east side and Atlanta was with, I forgot her name. But any who was there, but me and him both was drinking. You wanted to forget her name. I don't want to forget her name. You know why you did? She must have not left a positive image on you. Back.
Starting point is 00:28:50 People only forget people's names and didn't leave a positive image on them. Facts. We didn't even speak out. So, yeah, continue, though. But, yeah, he was like my hype man. And I know me, I got my own mic too. So we both were just drinking in that because I guess we were celebrating. We were so excited.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And I can't really drink like that. And Nichi can't really drink at it. So we was performing my song, Jetsky. We was performing Jetsky. and both of us was just yelling. I was like, oh my God. He was like, talk your shit, bitch, China. I was like, Bella, you.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I was like, oh, my God. They're raging on stage. I never thought out here. You're like, oh, my God. We can't drink. And y'all up there screaming and raging on the damn stage. And everybody was just cheering on something. I guess they didn't know.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But I knew, like, no, never again. So that's why I don't drink no more when I performed. You felt like that was a bad shot? That was horrible. Yes, I'm big on my shows. I'm big on sound like everything I went on point
Starting point is 00:29:49 I was just doing shit I was mad as hell because I'd be having my stuff like choreographed like I got my little certain moves I do because I do it so much like everybody even my fans
Starting point is 00:30:00 they know like certain moves I do it What's your process of critiquing yourself throughout your show? I'll get somebody to record and I go back and look at it and I just watch my videos
Starting point is 00:30:09 and I pick what I don't like and I pick what I do like and I keep that and I don't keep using it What if your fans like some of that? shit though. They be like the shit that you don't like.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. I ain't never thought about that. Just a little bit like listen to don't listen to all but listen to some like because you still need to take a little bit of that out the mix. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 So I think that's important. Best show. That's my best show. At the um, the Ugly Money Music Summit. All my best shows are there. Because I go crazy. Like I get a whole bunch of people,
Starting point is 00:30:44 a whole bunch of girls or whoever to come with me. We all in uniform. I got my sparkling poppers. I got my big chattel on A song. I go crazy lighting, my outfits. My show, like, I just go crazy because I'm big on shows. And I do like maybe three to four records.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I got my DJ. We got my set together. I got bubbles going everywhere. I got all kind of stuff, like a real show. And it's like, dang, I ain't really got a budget like that. But imagine when I do get that budget, I'm just go crazy. Like one of those Beyonce shows. So you feel like you say, I'm already doing it.
Starting point is 00:31:15 doing it. Like, and you know, I've noticed like a lot of Atlanta artists are like that. You know what I'm saying? Like they invests into themselves. Yeah. Like before anybody, you know what I'm saying? They'll be out there 50, 60 piece into themselves, you know what I'm saying? Throughout the year of just buying little shit of their outfits or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 00:31:35 You know, how about like for Atlanta, right? Like, how do you, like, because I always look at it. Like Atlanta gets a lot of shine, like it shines on their artists. for you, I want to know, like, is that the place you get the most love from is from your city? Or where have you gotten the most love from? Like, what city? Is it your owner? Atlanta is one of my biggest, but I think North Carolina and Memphis, Tennessee and New York.
Starting point is 00:32:06 That's crazy. I was like, whoa. I wouldn't expect to be here that big cities. I thought maybe he was going to be like one or two, but North Carolina, they fuck with it. Like, that's why I always hear them. Like, they always come out and support. Heavy. Bad, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 They actually got booked up there for April 18th to go to Durham. The West Coast, it sucks, right? Because, I love the West Coast, but it really sucks because, like, we don't come out for shit unless it's, like, really one of our homies. Yeah. Or if it's a big name, you know what I'm saying and bring everybody out. Like, I just wish the support was the same. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like how y'all get it down south. You know what I'm saying? We don't come out of fun. Because down south, man. We don't even got to like you. We go pop out. They get a whole different love down south. Like down south is so easy
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like everybody comes out Bro, they'll shut down the general store Hey, put a fucking post up in the window Hey, going to such a such concert Be back in the morning You know what I'm saying? Like it's that's the type of love like that we need Like I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:02 In like these bigger, I'm saying rural areas Where it's like it's a lot of people in the max Like everybody competing man You competing with 50,000 you daily Wow Daily you'm saying as of there's only a couple You over here And a couple like down south
Starting point is 00:33:15 Like you know what I'm saying It's not, the competition's there, but it's not as big. And even if there is a lot of competition, everybody's trying to help one another. Yeah, I have to say that. They do be helping. They be fake help, but someone will be helping. Because some people get under you just to get past you. And it be weird because I don't dealt with a lot of that too.
Starting point is 00:33:33 What you're going to dealt with? Tell me a little bit. Oh, gosh. I don't have so many people, mainly girls who want to be me. I guess I want to be in my position. Then come around me like on some fake love. I can like you really fucking with me you really like my music or whatever
Starting point is 00:33:48 and I'm the type I naturally support because I don't regardless my situation on my level or status in this shit I'm always me so you could be a nobody and I still come out and support your shit with no problem basically humbling myself
Starting point is 00:34:03 because I don't got to be around you and technically I ain't supposed to be but I don't care about it I'm going to support you if I really fuck with you but versus them they'll probably get me around them starts some bullshit. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Now they make it seem like I'm on some hating shit and just trying to take the shine of their shit because I naturally pop out, you know, stand out when I'm around. Or if we go somewhere, I go somewhere somebody. And like I said, Atlanta knows me. And it's your shit. But I walk through the door. Oh, y'all trying them on there in the building, ugly money.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But it's your event. Now you mad because they shot him me up. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Atlanta got them, nigga. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's a lot of dolls here. Because your big, you're beautiful, like, you know, I've seen a lot of beautiful black women, like, through the city of Atlanta. Atlanta is that shit, boy. They got some girlies out there. Did you, you ever have, did you have management before ugly money? I actually did. It was horrible. It was so ghetto.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It was that all-bitty sheet. I don't, oh, God. I don't even want to. I'm a metaphor for the car of ass at. Yeah. You do. Boss game entertainment. Bitch ass niggas.
Starting point is 00:35:16 But in a little. Like I've heard that. Damn. Damn. Yeah. I said it now. Come with it. Check me.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Man. Yeah, they, um, they tried the hell out of me. Like, they played with my money. They didn't really have the production up to bar. I had to go to other studios to re-record what I recorded at their studios. They didn't give a damn. Then, like, he had put me with some bootlegs. and say it was a media run
Starting point is 00:35:45 and pictures all fucked up I ain't got no CD, no knick because we press the CDs that ran in time no CDs, no nothing that I was supposed to get and then he was trying to make me pay for shit that he was supposed to pay for and get mad at me because I'm checking him about it and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:02 nigga I ran out and put my money in for this and the third. What happened with this money? Then you put me with your homeboy who's supposed to be my manager but y'all don't fell out so y'all going against each other He'd have finesse me trying to do some shit with a CPN. It's talking about, oh, we could do this to get some money,
Starting point is 00:36:18 and I can't, oh, just see me, yeah, it was just weird. Yeah. I don't know. I'm through all that before I got to the real shit. You said you done, well, it says you've done two nation-wide tours. Oh, no, I did like seven. You did seven? And it was like, I know the first was like 56, and the other ones probably no more than 30.
Starting point is 00:36:39 And you've done over 60 shows for sure. Like, I don't know a lot of show. Guaranteed. I noticed that you had did two nationwide tours, you know what I had to be kind of, that's pretty big. You know what I'm saying? Thanks. What was those called? It was the Ugly Money music tour.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Oh, he'd be taking you, ugly money be pushing you around. Like that's what I love. Like, and shout out to my nigga because he really, like, whoever been fucking with him later, I've noticed like everybody's catching motion. Everybody's doing their thing. And that's what I said, man. That's why I love about to give me a house down there. Fuck this bull.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Come on, honey. Fuck this bullshit. I'm gonna go down there because everybody getting on down there and not even on like fuck the fame man like niggas got that gets the money like y'all motherfucklingers around there is not afraid to spend the bag. Nope
Starting point is 00:37:23 yeah spend the bag. You know what I'm saying? How much you ever got paid for a walkthrough? For a walkthrough? I really just got my mom. 15-100. That's cool. To walk?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Yeah, 15-100. No shaking ass. No. You had to be in nobody's music videos, didn't you? Wasn't for a whopping 300, huh? I was on jazz. Easy shmoney. Easy shmany.
Starting point is 00:37:46 That's cold right there, baby. I really do. I like that about you. And I appreciate you for coming. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Hey, sitting down with me, rocking with me. Is there anything, any other shows, any other music, any collabs? Is there any collabs that you're looking to, looking forward to doing or anything you've got in the works?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Um, yeah. I have a lot of them. Um, there is Deshaun. we've been to work on a lot of um actually i think we're gonna do it like a whole ep but with him um like i said i just did that record with smoke that was dope i've been working with uh sway the remix guy that producer yeah he's a major um yeah um fat man scoop i got a record with him um murphy lee he loves me i ain't heard him of i ain't heard him of i yeah he loved me he actually put me on his dad same lunatic yeah I remember.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Leifers St. L lunatics and God knows. How long. He was called me. He was one of them niggins from there for show. What was you doing with him? We did the record together. He put me on his album. Jazzy Faye.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Dope-ass producer to work with. Amazing. To get in the building with him has to be iconic. Please tell him. I got another story about that and what that experience was like because that's iconic. That nigga's a legend.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Actually, he called me out of blue. I was driving. and I didn't even know he had my number. I guess Nietzsche gave him. But yeah, he was like, he called me like, let's work. I was like, okay, cool. Like, he's amazing. He's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like, he could just come up with sounds and instruments like that. Just put a record together like that. So he has produced some shit for you. Mm-hmm. He got a lot of stuff in making, too. I say go get back around me. Like, hey, I know this, and I don't want your husband take this the wrong way, but you need to go in the room
Starting point is 00:39:38 with Jazzy Pag, close the door and lock the door. Forever. And go in the studio, lock the door, and don't come out for like two weeks. If you don't come up with a hit, like I'm talking about something that just took it, like just it's that one, this is going to be one. I know it's going to be one.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And it is going to be one. Especially with this new lane that I created, with this submissiveness and, you know what I'm saying, the soft girl era. Like, I have a lot of records already. Is that going to be the new album? Yeah. Soft Girl era?
Starting point is 00:40:08 Mm-mm. It's submissive, but it's going to be in that lane. You know what I'm saying? Not even that. Like a spin on like more to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Softgirl era, I think that's a cold album.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like something, a new project to work on for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've already got some records already in mind and played. Like that I haven't done. I know I got like eight of them already done. Going crazy. So I just can't wait.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I'm excited to, you know what I'm saying? Keep expanding my new lane that I created. You definitely have created one. for yourself sweetie you know and i'm gonna be honest with you i'm rooting for you and i hope and to get your flowers you'm saying while it's early for you because i feel like that's what this platform was really built for like fun no jumper was you know the up and coming and for people that are catching wave and having and doing their shit you know what i'm saying so i wanted to really get you in here even if it was for two minutes just to let the people know shit i know you you
Starting point is 00:41:02 you'm saying i fuck with you and i see you and if people haven't heard it they need to go check out that joint submissing yes please please by China Monnet, man, and really and really listen to it. Hey, I think it's cold and it's catchy. That's what it's about. Yeah, I got another one. I think I'm going to dry on the way, shut up and listen.
Starting point is 00:41:21 That was fired, produced by J-Toole. Yeah. Would you ever question for you? Because you're definitely around, especially being in Atlanta, and it's probably nothing for you to even catch on to that way. Have you ever thought about, have as reality TV ever came across your mind?
Starting point is 00:41:38 Oh yes, I'm actually working on a reality show right now called More Than Music. Shout out to Johnny Cabell. And it's on Lax Network. So, yeah, I actually just did some photoshoots for that, like, two days ago. And, yeah, they're getting ready to premiere all that. We're getting ready to. We're filming it for it now. That's my first one.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yeah. It's going to be Eric, too. Have you ever thought about going to some of these popular, like more of... Which one, like, Love and Hip Hop? Yeah, loving hip-hop. I don't want to fight. Maybe. Yeah, I was about, I mean, I think love and hip hop, like, and no offense to them.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I feel like it's more. Or the baddies. Yeah, there we go. Let's get more on that. What you ever go on to? I go on there. But they probably won't like me because I ain't going to fight. You're going to fight nobody?
Starting point is 00:42:24 I ain't going to argue. I don't try to pull on that good Indian. That good Remy. Did I like touch him? Like, a little two, three pieces of a sin. Yeah, I don't do all that. But I'm so cool, con, collective. It's hard to get me mad.
Starting point is 00:42:38 They're going to make their self-man trying to make me mad. No, baby, I'll listen to me. I appreciate you for slide through. Like I said, anything that you want to tell your fans, anything you want them to resonate with you before we get about here. Yes. Oh, I need y'all to check out my Pretty Money podcast. I air every Monday night at 7 on Ugly Money TV.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Rapping over there? Rapping. Yeah. Rapping over there. You need to cut my track live every motherfucker week. Okay, I like that idea. Straight up. I think it would be dope.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Cutting my track every week. Just give my quick 12 real quick. Every week. I got plenty bars from. Yeah. Stay tuned for all my new records that I'm dropping this year. I'm on a single. I'm doing singles.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Then I might do an EPO, whatever. But I mainly want to do singles because content is going crazy. And that's all you need. I don't even need a full music video. Like that cook clean fuck shit you're seeing with the courtroom. That wasn't full of video. It was just content. And I hit millions of views.
Starting point is 00:43:38 multiple times on it. So it's like, it's ways to not spend money and still get out there. Yeah. It seems like the visualizers are the way that, the new wave of where it just bounces the same
Starting point is 00:43:50 like visuals real quick and it just keeps going through it. You know, I've seen a lot of rappers using that. And you're right, it's cheap production and it can still grasp them by the millions. As long as the quality of it's great. You're saying, you can't still be cheap. I mean, shit.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You got a lot of these motherfuckers shooting shit off the eye. phones. Yeah. Yeah, those are going to. And I'm a lot of one I, uh, one of the guys we did a mic drop, he shot with his iPhone and hit an M2. So it's possible. Yeah, it's possible. Just stay consistent. Yeah. You're going to stay consistent for us? Most definitely you. Don't, hey, listen to me, I want to believe in this interview like I'm believing in it right now. And then you fuck around and you know, you just fumble the bag.
Starting point is 00:44:33 No, I don't know. I can never fumble the bag. You got to get, you got to get. You got to get. You got to get. You got to the end zone. Oh, I am. I'm almost there. Well, I appreciate you for sliding through and coming and fucking with me. Thank you so much for having me. And I'm definitely going to be looking out and I'm sure the fans and the viewers, they're going to definitely be looking
Starting point is 00:44:50 out for where you headed next throughout this year. You know what I'm saying? If you're going to be, we're all going to be curious if you're going to stay hot or if it's just going to be a knot the end of the motherfucking year. Yeah. So hopefully you stay hot for us, baby. Most definitely, I'm sure. And keep bringing that music to us again, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Staying on your campaign. Thanks. Hey, women, I need y'all to take accountability. This year we quit creating more wives and saving men lives. Okay? So I need y'all to get on that all 2024. Let's do it. Hey. Hey, I appreciate you, baby.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Thank you so much. It's an honor. Shana. Monet, ladies and gentlemen, the sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Donnie, save our lives and shoot us out to motherfucking gym.

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