No Jumper - China Monai On How Sexyy Red Is Ruining The Community, Being Submissive & More
Episode Date: April 15, 2024China Monai talks about her upbringing, her first regular job, being submissive, says Sukihanna and Sexyy Red are causing women to be masculine, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://no...jumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON / nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT / 4874336901 Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: / 4874336901 / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper / nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: / discord Follow Adam22: / adam22 / adam22 / adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Sharp Tame.
No Jumper.
Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.
And today, we got a beautiful, talented young lady by the name of China Monet.
Yes, sir.
What's going on, baby?
Talk to me.
Man, look, I've been wanting to get you up here.
That's why I hit ugly money up.
When I seen you rapping and you were sitting there doing your shit, I said, oh, whoa.
She, hey, I promise you.
I wanted to get this interview before you blow.
Yes, yes, yes.
Because I know you're going to go.
And I just want to be one to have the interview before you do.
Oh, you smart?
Yeah, I got the first one.
I got the footage, man.
No, most definitely I appreciate this honor.
How are you?
I'm gracious.
Yeah.
Where's your man?
You said you were saying it earlier.
You said you had a rough morning, long morning.
Yeah.
Crazy, crazy, crazy.
Trying to get to you.
Trying to get to you.
Trying to get to you.
Well, you took me.
What happened?
Okay.
So I didn't get no sleep for real.
I supposed to get out my makeup and nails done prior, but that didn't work out.
So I kind of took a little cat now.
By the time I woke up, it was trying to get on the plane.
So soon I got on a plane, had a connecting flight.
I almost missed that flight because it was so big and spaced out in, what, Delaware, Colorado,
somewhere we had to go.
And it was just a mess.
And I'm like, oh, my God, I got to get there all the time.
Like, I got to get there.
This is very important.
He's going to kill me.
I am.
I was gonna kill you if you were gonna show up.
So we were running with all kind of bags.
It's just going crazy.
You were definitely, huh, not the type of bags
you wanted busing running through there, huh?
Right.
Oh yeah.
Hungry, didn't eat, hell like a mess.
I just, you know.
So you're from Auburn.
I'm from Albina, Georgia.
Say it how you said.
I'm from Albany, George.
I want to say it like you do.
I'm trying to catch you, you got to let it roll off the tongue.
I'm in the West Coast, baby.
So you know it's, we use it.
We don't relax our ars like that.
You got me around here like, yeah, who coming to the party?
You know what I'm saying?
We call the party.
Yeah, we, I like that about you, baby.
So talk to me.
When did you even decide to start getting into the music, baby, the music thing?
I got into the music by mistake, for real.
I never thought about being an artist.
I was shy.
I used to write to myself in my notepad in high school to express my feelings.
And that's how they came about when me writing music.
and then like my uncle, he had a studio out there in Tampa, Florida,
and he started a label called Street Team Entertainment,
and he wanted to try something else.
So I just got it in the book.
I was like, I want to give it a try, like, just to see how I go,
because I'm, like I say, it's just right now things I feel.
But I never put it in the format as a song.
I just wanted to see that sound.
Yeah.
And then he, like, noticed that I was really good at it.
He was like, oh, you sound good?
I was like, real.
And so that's when I started taking it seriously, like, perfecting it,
Like how to actually put a record together.
Like, perfecting my images, looking as an artist.
Like, all the things that do become artists,
I had to perfect it over the years.
And so, like, when I'm left and moved to Tampa.
I mean, I left from Tampa to move back to Albany.
And I had started getting out into the music scene with other artists and stuff.
Because I didn't really deal with people out there in my city.
So when I got to the studio, I ended up running into, like, Sean Jay from Phil Mob.
He was there.
So he was kind of helping me along the way of, like, perfecting my craft and everything.
But you know how men are in the game.
So I was like, I kind of stood back because I was like,
I'd rather just sit back and learn on my own versus y'all doing all this issue.
Right.
So, yeah, I kind of did that.
And then just got really good at it until one day, well, 2020 around the pandemic.
I think around the time boomer had that showcase the one Fujian on.
Yeah.
And I was going to go to it.
I was working.
I was working at Allergarn.
I had a job at there for like 60s.
I was cooking, for real.
I cooked for real.
I don't think I planned me.
So, yeah, I ain't have enough money.
I couldn't get all.
So I was like, I'm going to just miss out on you or whatever.
Not knowing Nietzsche was the judge.
Yeah.
I'm mad.
I don't even interrupt.
Everybody got their time.
I'm kind of upset right now because I want to know what the fuck we didn't get no
olive garden today.
Oh, God.
I didn't work there.
It's going on mortgage.
Yes.
You want some breadsticks, church?
Anthony, I got you.
Salad and breadsticks for everybody.
Uber eats.
I'm just talking with you, baby.
Continue to talk to me.
Yeah.
So, um, Nichi was the judge, one of the judges or whatever.
I didn't know that.
But I ended up running across him on Instagram, and he had his own showcase.
So I had, um, sitting in my pitching stuff on my flyer and everything to do it.
But I didn't get to do it because I had to work.
So I guess he kind of noticed.
scene that I was like jumping in and out type thing.
So he inboxed me out of nowhere and he was like, let's have a sit down.
So I was like, okay, cool, let's do it.
So I got off work.
As soon as I got up of work, I drove to Atlanta, which is like two and a half hours with my
work clothes on, Matt Nichi.
We sat down in a restaurant, chopped it up.
In Olive Garden attire.
In my all of garden and attire.
That was my plan.
Yeah.
I wanted that bad.
The most businessman slash ratchet and shit I've ever heard of mine.
entire life.
It's like you want to hate it, but you got to love it.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to love that for real because that's work ethic.
I love to hear that.
That's ambitious and having some drive to get your ass off from work.
Yeah.
Rush to the foot.
Like I ain't got time to change nothing.
You probably try to fix a little bit of it up in the car real quick.
You know what I'm saying?
As you move it and just to get in there and really have to base it off you had to be crazy
a little bit.
Yeah.
Right?
Like going there with no type of a pier on to where it's like,
And not even saying that you're not a beautiful girl,
but you walking in there looking regular as hell.
I was regular as hell.
Coming here and talking about changing your life.
Yeah, he was looking crazy,
but he was more so like shop because he's seen like, whoa, you're really serious.
And I was like, yeah.
So that night he went to the studio and I always, like I said,
I always just write.
But that night I actually freestyle the record.
And I don't know if because I was nervous.
And I was like, I can't mess up.
I got him in the other.
And I actually did it.
And he was like, whoa, that's dope.
It was an actually dope weapon when we put it together.
So as I left that night, I ended up driving back to Albany.
So he kept calling me to come back and forth to record records.
But this time, he didn't know I stayed in Albany because I was coming back and forth like that.
He thought I was lived in Atlanta.
I was there recording three, four times out of the week.
So you didn't even tell him?
No.
Don't you might live around the corner?
Yeah, driving two and a half hour, then Asperator.
As money, that's for nothing just was coming because I was serious.
Yeah, and then it got to the point where he was like,
I see how driven and, you know what I'm saying, hardworking that you are.
Like, I want to be your manager.
And I was like, oh, my God, for real?
He's like, yeah, he's like, I'm going to be your manager.
He was like, we ain't got no budget like that for real, whatever.
But we're going to make some worry.
I said, okay, cool.
I said, I don't get that much money, but I put up what I got and, you know, if you can match me,
we could do it like that.
And he was like, five, honey.
I was giving up $500 every week.
And when I gave him like my third $500, he was like, stop.
And working at Olive Garden?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not trying to talk shit here.
You know what I'm saying?
But when I really look at the fact here, I'm like, damn, to give a $500 every week working at Olive Garden, you definitely missed a couple things.
Giving that up.
Like, whether it's just some shit, huh?
Yeah, I'm a mother.
I have a seven-year-old.
At the time, she was like four.
Yeah, so at the time you're like
You know, you wasn't really in position to be giving up
$500 a week
No, staying with my grandma
Still paying a car note
Got my baby girl, you know what I'm saying
Car notes are good
Yeah
Car notes help your credit
It's okay
You paid them on time, right?
You always paid them on time
You always went to the grace period
Yeah, I paid it on time
I had a lot of bills
I stay with my grandma
Yeah
You gotta help grandma out too
Yeah, Chris member
Grandma believe in a dream
She saw she believed in what you had going on?
Thanks.
My whole family, yeah.
They most definitely believe in me.
Like I said, I had to leave my baby girl back home.
So they most definitely helped me where, too, as well.
When I moved to Atlanta.
Yeah.
So.
You was leaving her as you had to go drive that two and a half hours?
I was about to say, if you're taking the baby with you, you're the bad mother-and-dog, straight-up.
Five hundred a week, working at Olive Garden, driving two and a half hours to go do, like to go record.
you'm saying, and then having to possibly take the baby.
If you said you was taking the baby, I was like,
where the fuck have you been?
Right.
You are holding it down.
I'm not even going to lie.
What about me now?
I'm a risk taker.
Yeah.
I don't care.
You seem so outgoing.
You know, you seem very outgoing.
And, you know, I read some about you that, you know,
you used to like to write songs as a child.
Yeah.
And you were very shy when you would.
Very shy.
Like, you were very shy about music and singing and things like that.
Where'd you find it, baby?
I feel like the music bring it out of me.
Like when I'm on stage performing, I'm all another person.
Like, I'm actually becoming a person I always wanted to be that was in the words and
papers.
Because I couldn't be, I don't know, I just couldn't, I used to walk around with my head down.
I used to not smile.
I used to do all that because, I don't know, people used to pick on me and stuff like that.
But I don't know, I came out of the music brought it out of me.
So where now I got that company, it's on their
Y'all have not play with me.
Yeah, no, you know, it's always those stories, right?
That be the ones that got picked on,
the ones that had to go through a lot,
didn't really get a fair strike at certain shit.
Come out swinging the hardest.
So, you know what I'm saying?
I understand most definitely, you know,
especially having to come from being shy.
That's something like, damn, if you were shy,
like, how'd you shake that?
Because having to stand up,
even having to get in there into a studio
and record, there are still people in there
that are just glued to you.
Yeah.
The entire time as you're in the booth,
you know what I'm saying?
It's nerve-wracking, but I don't know.
I just, like I said.
How'd you overcome that is my question?
Just my daughter,
thinking about my baby girl,
like trying to make a way out for her.
Right.
It was like,
she can't be eating all of a lot of her.
She can't be growing up on Olive Garden.
No, we ain't eat breadsticks.
She's going to grow up hating that shit.
Straight up.
My baby's boozy.
She's going to grow up resenting that.
Like, I don't even.
wanted breadsticks salad I'm fucking done she's bougie yeah she likes sushi she loves
Asian cuisine she likes something like I like that so describe shout out to your baby too
thank you shout to tell you love you describe the process of making the single submissive
okay so it's how she's how it happened right I'm in the studio chilling in my thought
process I was trying to come up with some other type of record
But Nietzsche came out in the blue
I was like,
China, I got an idea.
I'm like, what, Nietzsche?
He was like, you know how we kind of do
Trigger Alert?
You know, like the show Trigger Alert.
He was going off on the masculine bitch.
So he was like, I think we should
turn it into a record.
And I was like, you know what, that's crazy
because I was thinking like going in that direction
but didn't know how to go about it.
So we got in the studio together, came up with the ideas.
And I was like, yeah, they do something by being submissive.
Smithmsing women in demand too.
They were like, oh, I like that.
I like that.
Listen to me, that's how I found you.
Really?
Was through that.
Yeah.
And then I started doing my research on you, my homework.
I'm like, okay, you've been f***ing around since like 2014, you've been really
playing with it since then.
But this, I feel like this one, the one that's going really good.
I said, hey, holy fuck up.
Straight up.
I said, I'm going to say it just like this.
I said, who this little bitty bribed right here?
And she's talking some, she's talking cash, shit.
I just, I ain't going to lie to you.
I fell in love with the song.
I loved it.
And I've seen a lot of people getting you a lot of positive feedback.
A lot of men.
A lot of women.
Hey, but you know what, though?
That's the whole game because if you look at it, right?
You know, we always say it's women that support and,
the music, even when albums and CDs
and things were like that. Who was mine?
Mostly women. This was trying to bootleg.
We're always trying to grab it
in a different life. Right. So to see
you try to turn it around now, like,
your fan base is a lot of men.
A lot of men. That's crazy because I'm like,
it's hard to get that. Yeah.
Because I ain't a lot. Like, shout out to sexy reds
and shout out to all them, but they got
the ratchet, the girl fan base, like with
them. You, on the other
hand, have the man
fan base. That's
hard to do.
Oh my God.
That's hard to do, though.
They, like, protect this queen.
Man, I'm going to get training.
I'm going to buy your music.
They go crazy.
That's submissive.
It was crazy.
I never seen that.
And it's like, everywhere I go in any little part of the city of Atlanta, like,
somebody know me because of that record.
They're like, you, that cook, clean, shut up, girl.
I was like, that.
Say it.
Say it for them again, said, say, baby.
I cook, I clean.
I shut up.
Hey, Nani.
We needed it in that.
In real life, yeah, and they want them, if I do it for real.
I do.
I don't cap in my rap.
That's what my next question was.
Was it just a good song to put it?
Like, was it just catchy at the time and just a good track to put out?
Because you know it was going to blow.
Her did you mean that?
I meant that shit because it was so refreshing and it was just so dope because I'm actually
like that.
I'm naturally like that.
Like, I was born to be a Missed Woman.
So it was like, it was nothing for me.
to make this record because I felt it.
And, I mean, I'm pretty sure you can feel it when I put it in the record.
No.
Now, I got to know, do you be getting nasty messages from like chicks?
Oh, all the time.
Like, do the chicks like this?
I'm sure chicks.
Cheap.
He's still going to cheat.
Like, all that.
Like, you're doing it for nothing.
You're a slave.
You're doing it for nothing.
They're going crazy.
I'm like, y'all is some better masculine people.
What the hell?
Man.
What do you, China, what would you consider just from your definition?
Because your song is a very, it's submissive, is a very submissive song.
Right.
You know what's a masculine female to you?
Like what's a couple of traits you feel like?
It's just like, ugh, like this, what are you doing?
That's too masculine.
Yeah, masculine female who's loud, who don't listen.
To nobody.
Nobody.
Very disrespectful.
want to be independent
they swear that independent
they bossing up on it
it's deteriorating your lives
As a man it sucks to be alone too sometimes
I get it so
you know what I'm saying
everybody needs somebody
sometimes like that independent shit
like even for a man like yeah we like
to stand on our toes but like you said
we like to have a woman that gonna cook clean
fuck and shut up
don't be independent be interpendent
break that down for us a little bit baby
Basically, me and you, we depending on each other.
We're helping each other.
Do you know that that's all I ever try to kick to a lot of the
that I've ever sat down with?
Yeah, I'd be like, look, I'm not saying I'm not going to do for you,
but why has it got to just be all on me?
Because that's what they was taught,
and that's what they feel like is right, which is crazy, because...
You want me to tell you something?
Because I don't want it to sound stupid, so I'll break it down.
I always looked at it even like this, right, in a regular household.
the woman don't like even a woman won't respect the man that ain't doing shit like that respect
if a mother's the only one doing it in the household and not putting it together guess what happens
one's going to turn into the alpha and be like well you know that's why a lot of women they'll go cheat
because they be like my man don't do shit shit I'm allowed to cheat I pay for everything yeah
they they may don't do this and men don't do the same motherfucking thing you know so I feel like
there's an equal respect where y'all both are taking care of business that respect to always
stay there. You know what I'm saying? You can't really disrespect the other person. Now, if they're not
doing shit, they're just sitting back running their mouth, guess what? You've already, you might
say bye-bye because you didn't send your spouse elsewhere. Yeah, most definitely. You got to,
both got to bring peace in the home. That's the main thing. Like, I'm not the type of
be, oh, you need to do this or I need to do that. I feel like we all need to come together
because at the day, we all is one. Like, instead of tearing up the home, I'm trying to bring
back the home, but putting it in our type of content.
You know what I'm saying?
Because they listen that way.
They wouldn't listen if I put it into a little regular Douglas song.
But the way I did it, I got your attention.
What's crazy, because you got the men attention.
Facts.
Like, that's really your fan base.
Yeah, it is.
That's why it would be spooky to see your shows because it's going to be a lot of n-dust.
But before that, I always had the men, but now I really got them.
Yeah.
Because, like, some of my sons, I always see the guys turn up with me and stuff.
Like, I had guys say, turn up.
I'd be like, what?
It'd be so funny.
But I don't know why women feel like being submissive is like being a slave or whatever.
But submissing is not being weak, but it's rather being strong enough for one,
each other to love on another, to grow with each other, to build each other to like, you know what I'm saying?
Build this foundation.
It ain't nothing about, I don't know, competition shit.
Yeah.
And that's what he feels like sometimes.
So you say that submissive song, like it meant more to you to put out because you want people to hear this shit by the masses because nobody's talking.
like that.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, look, I just shut up.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said, and for you to grab the men, man, man, that's hard to do.
Yeah.
Because in the drill.
It's into, I'm going to kill you when I see you at the corner store.
When can you make, and you know who would, uh, said it.
I've seen somebody make a quote about it saying, I think it was Jarl Ruh,
Jarl Ruh said, let's, he wants to, let's make hip hop fun again.
Right.
Music's supposed to be fun.
It is.
Not damn, it's dying.
Like, the music has changed.
It's changed so personal.
It's changed drastically.
You know what I'm saying?
So to see you get in it,
actually be able to tell your truth
and have some fun as well is dope.
Thank you.
How did you,
I don't think you were like that all your life.
How did you become a submissive woman yourself?
I didn't know if a submissive woman
because I used to be that choroso woman,
that masculine bitch.
I used to be that.
I used to be that, oh, I'm independent.
I pay all my own bills and this and that and the third
until I got an actual relationship where God actually
taught me how to be the woman I am today
and made me see the difference.
Because when I wasn't listening and stuff,
we was always fighting and fussing.
And it was just a mess.
It was never no peace in the home.
But when I converted it over to being a soft girl,
getting in my soft girl era, everything changed.
There was more peace in the home,
more happiness. I get what I want.
I learned like really that's my superpower.
Yeah, I ain't go a lot to you.
Like it's really, it's a turnoff for me
for a hard to be. They don't want to eat it.
It comes off because like you said, it just comes off
constantly challenging.
It's like you said, it's not a competition,
but it seems like that
when she's being
combative or resistant.
Facts. I feel like society made it that way, though.
Like with social,
conditioning meaning feminism.
There's a lot of feminism
empowerment going on. So now these women feel like
a Beyonce. Which, Beyonce's married.
Right.
So it's all entertainment.
And been married to the same nigga and making you
us get back to the apartments.
No, that is true. I ain't going to lie. That is true.
She's like, look at some of the bitches that you're looking up to.
They got niggers. Yeah. Like even city girls
all them. They got niggas.
Bigas, don't.
Just because y'all hear the music,
y'all the bitches out here crashing.
Facts.
And I just wish that it was told that way in the music,
like the separated, like, hey, look, we just want y'all to know.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we make this music, but, like, we're making it for, it's fun.
That's not, it's not life.
It's not life.
It's just entertainment.
And, like, I don't know.
I always said that to it.
Like, music ain't never been the same because they've taken it so personal to where
everybody getting in their feelings or,
they utilizing it the wrong way and creating all these different messages where it's just
influencing people so terribly it's just I don't know it's crashing but I'm trying to say today
I am saving today I ain't a lot baby you're saving something because for real like the music that
you you put out like I said that's that submissive that was really was the one I think that's
the one and that should really push you over the hump you know what I'm saying I know it is
you got a ring on your finger
How long you been married?
How long you've been with,
how long you've been with your significant other now?
Forever.
Forever?
Hey, I ain't even, that tells me a lot.
When you're submissive it's what to get you, honey?
Yeah.
Shut up sometimes.
Yeah.
And listen, he's going to lead you to the mission, not the hell.
How do you feel like,
how do you feel like music is causing women to be masculine?
I feel like the music is very influential.
So whatever they listen to, they're going to, I don't know, get into it.
Like, they're going to go by it because they feel like it's right.
It looks right, but it's really wrong.
As far as like, like I said, a lot of sexy red Sukiannas, they say, fuck that nigger.
You don't need no, nigger.
Don't you feel like that's kind of like child's play?
It is.
Like something that a child would do, like listen to and go do something that they hear in music.
And they do.
not knowing how to separate the music.
I'm listening to the music.
The music's not a part.
It's not me because I'm just here to listen to the music.
Hey, man, I'm just a couple of ears just trying to nod my head to something.
But I do know how to understand that, hey, I'm in control of this.
I can turn the switch on and off to this shit.
It's like some people turn it on and they get stuck on.
And now they're moving around and you're right.
Music is very influential.
You know what I'm saying?
But I just thought women, you know, were very smart creatures, very smart individual.
Like, for real, know how to,
Y'all, y'all are supposed to be the ones that mature faster.
Yep.
You know what I'm saying?
Right?
If that's what it was always said when I was growing up,
they say women mature a little bit more faster than men do, you know.
So to see like the women that I was seeing growing up compared to the women that I see now
is a night and day fucking difference.
Yeah.
And I feel like, like you said with the question to answer your question,
they're being rewarded by it because the men are liking it, commenting about it,
sharing it.
The women's same difference.
They reposting it and they, oh, look at this.
It's five.
They look good.
Oh, I like this.
It really is tearing up our community.
It's tearing up, you know what I'm saying?
The real, I don't know.
It's just amiss.
How do you feel about like a woman living, like, you know, online versus like really
just being out in the world, no social media and really living her life?
Do you feel like the woman that gets out?
in the world gets a little bit further?
Do you feel like the women on the internet get further now?
The women on the internet, because that's what people push them.
That's what they like.
It's like, you gotta be popular.
Yeah, the popular stupid shit gets more attention than the real shit.
The shit behind the scenes, that ain't get no attention.
You're right, because you can get online right now.
Try to say some wholesome shit.
Might get 50 likes.
Back.
Three comments.
I get on there and shake my ass.
Shake your ass.
Titty's hanging out.
Boom, skyrocketed.
Let's go.
going crazy.
But then they talk trash about society, like how society ain't shit,
but you motherfuckersity and glorify this shit.
That's why I always say this, right?
Because people be like, how do they watch, like,
how do you guys, how do we watch this drama?
You're watching it.
Look at you.
Who's sick?
The person that's putting it out of the person that's watching it.
Yeah, they be encouraging bad behavior.
And that's just crazy.
And I blame the man, too.
Talk about it.
What you're playing, baby, come on.
Let's go.
You all be talking about the women who does those, you know what I'm saying?
ungodly or unwoman like things, y'all, like I said, y'all praise it.
But instead of praising it, teach the woman, like how to be a woman.
Because sometimes if you teach them, they'll listen.
If she get this man to teach her to say the same thing and this man to say the same thing
and this man to say the same thing, it's going to come to her eventually like, okay,
too many men to say the same thing.
Bingo.
I look at it like this.
That's why we got a lot of masculine bitches because they are learning from niggas.
That's what niggas show like niggas.
I feel you.
Niggas ain't probably more like softer on her.
Like just like caress her mind a little bit more than just.
We are emotional.
We treat them like just like we treat the niggas in the streets.
Like, nigga.
Yeah.
Calling out her name.
I ain't going to lie.
You're right.
If you want to get through a woman head, you got to be compassionate with her.
That's how we'll listen.
And if she don't get the fuck away from her.
Get away.
You don't have to force.
Stop trying to force puzzle pieces that don't go together.
That shit don't never work.
Like I said, men stop rewarding bad behavior
Yeah
Speaking of men, how did you start working with ugly money?
Shout to my nigga Ugly Money, by the way.
We, like I said, we started off of a DM
And like I said, he ended up becoming my manager
And that same year, I went on tour, did like a 56 city tour
That was crazy.
Ugly Money also does the hip-hop fraternity too, right?
Yeah, they all-fying.
We actually had the Ugly Money Music Summit
April 6 through the 7.
I'll be there
HHF Award Show
Yes
I will be there
You'll be going to see
My performance
It's the eighth right
It's the sixth through the seventh
April
I'll be there for it
And I'll perform it on the seventh
I don't want to miss that
That shit's just going to be live
I ain't going to lie to you
That's going to be crazy
That's my favorite part
I love performing
You love performing
You love performing?
Yes
You're going to be looking good
Of course
Every time
Every time
Because we might have a round
A little raffle
Oh God
Hopefully you got
No, jumper.
Hopefully you got his weather together because I'm fucking coming.
I ain't going to lie to you.
You was talking about the,
you were talking about Phil,
Mom, date from Albany, too, right?
Yeah, shout out to Sean Jay and Smoke.
Yeah, they're from Albany, Georgia.
That legends.
Herod.
Herod.
Your mom used to date, smoke.
Oh, God.
I don't know.
I don't know where their hair going on
when they was younger.
Well, I'm saying, that's maybe I'm like,
that's a small world, right?
Yeah.
For you to land back around a circle.
of people that your mama used to fuck with.
That's crazy, right?
Shout out my mama.
Shout out to your mama, yeah.
She's fucked with the boy Smoke.
You don't remember none of that coming out?
He said.
He said it.
But, you know, me and Smoke didn't end up redoing sick of being lonely,
which was the dopest thing ever.
Like, oh, my God, that record, I'm so sickle being lonely.
Yeah, we read that day.
Oh, my God, fire.
Yeah.
I can't wait to drop it.
We got a definitely, what's for you, right?
Because you've done shows.
So I like this, the part, I like to ask artists like, what was your best show so far
and what was your worst show so far?
My worst show.
Start with the worst show.
I like that.
Dive right on the ugly shit.
Yeah.
I like that.
Worst show.
Okay, my worst show.
Was when me and he choose at Chit Chat on the east side and Atlanta was with, I forgot her name.
But any who was there, but me and him both was drinking.
You wanted to forget her name.
I don't want to forget her name.
You know why you did?
She must have not left a positive image on you.
Back.
People only forget people's names and didn't leave a positive image on them.
Facts.
We didn't even speak out.
So, yeah, continue, though.
But, yeah, he was like my hype man.
And I know me, I got my own mic too.
So we both were just drinking in that because I guess we were celebrating.
We were so excited.
And I can't really drink like that.
And Nichi can't really drink at it.
So we was performing my song, Jetsky.
We was performing Jetsky.
and both of us was just yelling.
I was like, oh my God.
He was like, talk your shit, bitch, China.
I was like, Bella, you.
I was like, oh, my God.
They're raging on stage.
I never thought out here.
You're like, oh, my God.
We can't drink.
And y'all up there screaming and raging on the damn stage.
And everybody was just cheering on something.
I guess they didn't know.
But I knew, like, no, never again.
So that's why I don't drink no more when I performed.
You felt like that was a bad shot?
That was horrible.
Yes, I'm big on my shows.
I'm big on sound
like everything
I went on point
I was just doing shit
I was mad as hell
because I'd be having my stuff like
choreographed
like I got my little certain moves I do
because I do it so much
like everybody
even my fans
they know like certain moves
I do it
What's your process
of critiquing yourself
throughout your show?
I'll get somebody to record
and I go back and look at it
and I just watch my videos
and I pick what I don't like
and I pick what I do like
and I keep that and I don't keep
using it
What if your fans like
some of that?
shit though.
They be like the shit that you don't like.
Yeah.
I ain't never thought about that.
Just a little bit like listen to
don't listen to all but listen to
some like because you still need to take a little bit
of that out the mix.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to do that.
So I think that's important.
Best show.
That's my best show.
At the um,
the Ugly Money Music Summit.
All my best shows are there.
Because I go crazy.
Like I get a whole bunch of people,
a whole bunch of girls or whoever
to come with me.
We all in uniform.
I got my sparkling poppers.
I got my big chattel on A song.
I go crazy lighting, my outfits.
My show, like, I just go crazy because I'm big on shows.
And I do like maybe three to four records.
I got my DJ.
We got my set together.
I got bubbles going everywhere.
I got all kind of stuff, like a real show.
And it's like, dang, I ain't really got a budget like that.
But imagine when I do get that budget, I'm just go crazy.
Like one of those Beyonce shows.
So you feel like you say, I'm already doing it.
doing it.
Like, and you know, I've noticed like a lot of Atlanta artists are like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they invests into themselves.
Yeah.
Like before anybody, you know what I'm saying?
They'll be out there 50, 60 piece into themselves, you know what I'm saying?
Throughout the year of just buying little shit of their outfits or whatever the case may be.
You know, how about like for Atlanta, right?
Like, how do you, like, because I always look at it.
Like Atlanta gets a lot of shine, like it shines on their artists.
for you, I want to know, like, is that the place you get the most love from is from your city?
Or where have you gotten the most love from?
Like, what city?
Is it your owner?
Atlanta is one of my biggest, but I think North Carolina and Memphis, Tennessee and New York.
That's crazy.
I was like, whoa.
I wouldn't expect to be here that big cities.
I thought maybe he was going to be like one or two, but North Carolina, they fuck with it.
Like, that's why I always hear them.
Like, they always come out and support.
Heavy.
Bad, yeah.
They actually got booked up there for April 18th to go to Durham.
The West Coast, it sucks, right?
Because, I love the West Coast, but it really sucks because, like, we don't come out for shit
unless it's, like, really one of our homies.
Yeah.
Or if it's a big name, you know what I'm saying and bring everybody out.
Like, I just wish the support was the same.
Wow.
Like how y'all get it down south.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't come out of fun.
Because down south, man.
We don't even got to like you.
We go pop out.
They get a whole different love down south.
Like down south is so easy
Like everybody comes out
Bro, they'll shut down the general store
Hey, put a fucking post up in the window
Hey, going to such a such concert
Be back in the morning
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's that's the type of love like that we need
Like I don't know
In like these bigger, I'm saying rural areas
Where it's like it's a lot of people in the max
Like everybody competing man
You competing with 50,000 you daily
Wow
Daily you'm saying as of there's only a couple
You over here
And a couple like down south
Like you know what I'm saying
It's not, the competition's there, but it's not as big.
And even if there is a lot of competition, everybody's trying to help one another.
Yeah, I have to say that.
They do be helping.
They be fake help, but someone will be helping.
Because some people get under you just to get past you.
And it be weird because I don't dealt with a lot of that too.
What you're going to dealt with?
Tell me a little bit.
Oh, gosh.
I don't have so many people, mainly girls who want to be me.
I guess I want to be in my position.
Then come around me like on some fake love.
I can like you really fucking with me
you really like my music or whatever
and I'm the type I naturally support
because I don't regardless
my situation on my
level or status in this shit
I'm always me
so you could be a nobody
and I still come out and support your shit
with no problem basically humbling myself
because I don't got to be around you
and technically I ain't supposed to be
but I don't care about it
I'm going to support you if I really fuck with you
but versus them
they'll probably get me around them
starts some bullshit.
I don't know what's going on.
Now they make it seem like I'm on some hating shit
and just trying to take the shine of their shit
because I naturally pop out, you know, stand out when I'm around.
Or if we go somewhere, I go somewhere somebody.
And like I said, Atlanta knows me.
And it's your shit.
But I walk through the door.
Oh, y'all trying them on there in the building, ugly money.
But it's your event.
Now you mad because they shot him me up.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Atlanta got them, nigga.
Everybody.
It's a lot of dolls here.
Because your big, you're beautiful, like, you know, I've seen a lot of beautiful black women, like, through the city of Atlanta.
Atlanta is that shit, boy.
They got some girlies out there.
Did you, you ever have, did you have management before ugly money?
I actually did.
It was horrible.
It was so ghetto.
It was that all-bitty sheet.
I don't, oh, God.
I don't even want to.
I'm a metaphor for the car of ass at.
Yeah.
You do.
Boss game entertainment.
Bitch ass niggas.
But in a little.
Like I've heard that.
Damn.
Damn.
Yeah.
I said it now.
Come with it.
Check me.
Man.
Yeah, they, um, they tried the hell out of me.
Like, they played with my money.
They didn't really have the production up to bar.
I had to go to other studios to re-record what I recorded at their studios.
They didn't give a damn.
Then, like, he had put me with some bootlegs.
and say it was a media run
and pictures all fucked up
I ain't got no CD, no knick
because we press the CDs that ran in time
no CDs, no nothing that I was supposed to get
and then he was trying to make me pay for shit
that he was supposed to pay for
and get mad at me because I'm checking
him about it and I'm like,
nigga I ran out and put my money in for this
and the third. What happened with this money?
Then you put me with your homeboy
who's supposed to be my manager
but y'all don't fell out
so y'all going against each other
He'd have finesse me trying to do some shit with a CPN.
It's talking about, oh, we could do this to get some money,
and I can't, oh, just see me, yeah, it was just weird.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm through all that before I got to the real shit.
You said you done, well, it says you've done two nation-wide tours.
Oh, no, I did like seven.
You did seven?
And it was like, I know the first was like 56, and the other ones probably no more than 30.
And you've done over 60 shows for sure.
Like, I don't know a lot of show.
Guaranteed.
I noticed that you had did two nationwide tours, you know what I had to be kind of, that's pretty big.
You know what I'm saying?
Thanks.
What was those called?
It was the Ugly Money music tour.
Oh, he'd be taking you, ugly money be pushing you around.
Like that's what I love.
Like, and shout out to my nigga because he really, like, whoever been fucking with him
later, I've noticed like everybody's catching motion.
Everybody's doing their thing.
And that's what I said, man.
That's why I love about to give me a house down there.
Fuck this bull.
Come on, honey.
Fuck this bullshit.
I'm gonna go down there
because everybody getting on down there
and not even on like fuck the fame man
like niggas got that gets the money
like y'all motherfucklingers around there is not afraid
to spend the bag. Nope
yeah spend the bag.
You know what I'm saying?
How much you ever got paid for a walkthrough?
For a walkthrough?
I really just got my mom.
15-100.
That's cool.
To walk?
Yeah, 15-100.
No shaking ass.
No.
You had to be in nobody's music videos, didn't you?
Wasn't for a whopping 300, huh?
I was on jazz.
Easy shmoney.
Easy shmany.
That's cold right there, baby.
I really do.
I like that about you.
And I appreciate you for coming.
Oh, thank you so much for having me.
Hey, sitting down with me, rocking with me.
Is there anything, any other shows, any other music, any collabs?
Is there any collabs that you're looking to, looking forward to doing or anything you've got in the works?
Um, yeah.
I have a lot of them.
Um, there is Deshaun.
we've been to work on a lot of um actually i think we're gonna do it like a whole ep but with him um like
i said i just did that record with smoke that was dope i've been working with uh sway the remix guy
that producer yeah he's a major um yeah um fat man scoop i got a record with him um murphy lee he loves me
i ain't heard him of i ain't heard him of i yeah he loved me he actually put me on his dad same lunatic yeah
I remember.
Leifers St. L lunatics and God knows.
How long.
He was called me.
He was one of them niggins from there for show.
What was you doing with him?
We did the record together.
He put me on his album.
Jazzy Faye.
Dope-ass producer to work with.
Amazing.
To get in the building with him has to be iconic.
Please tell him.
I got another story about that
and what that experience was like
because that's iconic.
That nigga's a legend.
Actually, he called me out of blue.
I was driving.
and I didn't even know he had my number.
I guess Nietzsche gave him.
But yeah, he was like, he called me like, let's work.
I was like, okay, cool.
Like, he's amazing.
He's phenomenal.
Like, he could just come up with sounds and instruments like that.
Just put a record together like that.
So he has produced some shit for you.
Mm-hmm.
He got a lot of stuff in making, too.
I say go get back around me.
Like, hey, I know this, and I don't want your husband
take this the wrong way, but you need to go in the room
with Jazzy Pag, close the door and lock the door.
Forever.
And go in the studio, lock the door,
and don't come out for like two weeks.
If you don't come up with a hit,
like I'm talking about something that just took it,
like just it's that one, this is going to be one.
I know it's going to be one.
And it is going to be one.
Especially with this new lane that I created,
with this submissiveness and, you know what I'm saying,
the soft girl era.
Like, I have a lot of records already.
Is that going to be the new album?
Yeah.
Soft Girl era?
Mm-mm.
It's submissive, but it's going to be in that lane.
You know what I'm saying?
Not even that.
Like a spin on like more to come.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Softgirl era, I think that's a cold album.
Like something, a new project to work on for you.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I've already got some records already in mind and played.
Like that I haven't done.
I know I got like eight of them already done.
Going crazy.
So I just can't wait.
I'm excited to, you know what I'm saying?
Keep expanding my new lane that I created.
You definitely have created one.
for yourself sweetie you know and i'm gonna be honest with you i'm rooting for you and i hope
and to get your flowers you'm saying while it's early for you because i feel like that's what this
platform was really built for like fun no jumper was you know the up and coming and for people
that are catching wave and having and doing their shit you know what i'm saying so i wanted to really
get you in here even if it was for two minutes just to let the people know shit i know you you
you'm saying i fuck with you and i see you and if people haven't heard it they need to go check out
that joint submissing yes please please
by China Monnet, man, and really
and really listen to it.
Hey, I think it's cold and it's
catchy. That's what it's about.
Yeah, I got another one. I think I'm going to dry
on the way, shut up and listen.
That was fired, produced by J-Toole.
Yeah.
Would you ever question for you?
Because you're definitely around,
especially being in Atlanta, and it's probably
nothing for you to even catch on to that way.
Have you ever thought about,
have as reality TV ever came across your mind?
Oh yes, I'm actually working on a reality show right now called More Than Music.
Shout out to Johnny Cabell.
And it's on Lax Network.
So, yeah, I actually just did some photoshoots for that, like, two days ago.
And, yeah, they're getting ready to premiere all that.
We're getting ready to.
We're filming it for it now.
That's my first one.
Yeah.
It's going to be Eric, too.
Have you ever thought about going to some of these popular, like more of...
Which one, like, Love and Hip Hop?
Yeah, loving hip-hop.
I don't want to fight.
Maybe.
Yeah, I was about, I mean, I think love and hip hop, like, and no offense to them.
I feel like it's more.
Or the baddies.
Yeah, there we go.
Let's get more on that.
What you ever go on to?
I go on there.
But they probably won't like me because I ain't going to fight.
You're going to fight nobody?
I ain't going to argue.
I don't try to pull on that good Indian.
That good Remy.
Did I like touch him?
Like, a little two, three pieces of a sin.
Yeah, I don't do all that.
But I'm so cool, con, collective.
It's hard to get me mad.
They're going to make their self-man trying to make me mad.
No, baby, I'll listen to me.
I appreciate you for slide through.
Like I said, anything that you want to tell your fans,
anything you want them to resonate with you before we get about here.
Yes.
Oh, I need y'all to check out my Pretty Money podcast.
I air every Monday night at 7 on Ugly Money TV.
Rapping over there?
Rapping.
Yeah.
Rapping over there.
You need to cut my track live every motherfucker week.
Okay, I like that idea.
Straight up.
I think it would be dope.
Cutting my track every week.
Just give my quick 12 real quick.
Every week.
I got plenty bars from.
Yeah.
Stay tuned for all my new records that I'm dropping this year.
I'm on a single.
I'm doing singles.
Then I might do an EPO, whatever.
But I mainly want to do singles because content is going crazy.
And that's all you need.
I don't even need a full music video.
Like that cook clean fuck shit you're seeing with the courtroom.
That wasn't full of video.
It was just content.
And I hit millions of views.
multiple times on it.
So it's like,
it's ways to not spend money
and still get out there.
Yeah.
It seems like the visualizers
are the way that,
the new wave of where it just bounces the same
like visuals real quick
and it just keeps going through it.
You know, I've seen a lot of rappers using that.
And you're right, it's cheap production
and it can still grasp them by the millions.
As long as the quality of it's great.
You're saying, you can't still be cheap.
I mean, shit.
You got a lot of these motherfuckers shooting shit off the eye.
phones. Yeah. Yeah, those are going to.
And I'm a lot of one I, uh, one of the guys we did a mic drop, he shot with his
iPhone and hit an M2. So it's possible.
Yeah, it's possible. Just stay consistent.
Yeah. You're going to stay consistent for us? Most definitely you.
Don't, hey, listen to me, I want to believe in this interview like I'm believing in it
right now. And then you fuck around and you know, you just fumble the bag.
No, I don't know. I can never fumble the bag.
You got to get, you got to get. You got to get. You got to get. You got to
the end zone. Oh, I am. I'm almost there.
Well, I appreciate you for sliding
through and coming and fucking with me.
Thank you so much for having me. And I'm definitely
going to be looking out and I'm sure
the fans and the viewers, they're going to definitely be looking
out for where you headed next throughout
this year. You know what I'm saying? If you're going to be,
we're all going to be curious if you're going to stay hot
or if it's just going to be a knot
the end of the motherfucking year.
Yeah. So hopefully you stay hot for us,
baby. Most definitely, I'm sure. And keep bringing
that music to us again, you know what I'm saying?
Staying on your campaign. Thanks.
Hey, women, I need y'all to take accountability.
This year we quit creating more wives and saving men lives.
Okay?
So I need y'all to get on that all 2024.
Let's do it.
Hey.
Hey, I appreciate you, baby.
Thank you so much.
It's an honor.
Shana.
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