No Jumper - Chito Rana$ First Interview Home from Prison, Lefty Gunplay Being Influenced by Him & More
Episode Date: March 11, 2024Chito Rana$ just came home and made a quick stop to link up with Adam for his first interview! ----- 0:00 Intro 0:05 Chito just got from a 8 months bid, now he wants to be lowkey, chill at home, Chito... bought his first house 6:30 Dropped outta school in 7th grade, used to ditch school 10:30 Chito called his dad to let him know the house got raided, says he didn’t want to help, they haven't talked since, his dad always told him to stay outta trouble 16:40 Adam asks how he plans to avoid going back to jail this time around: "I don't know...just...moving different" 23:15 Relationship with King Lil G, says it was never anything substantial, only met him once 25:30 OTR's Seouless took care of him when he was locked up, Chito lost his brother and his lil homie went to jail 29:29 Chito says he's not in competition with nobody when it comes to rap 31:40 Chito makes his best songs after a night of partying, he's flattered that he influenced other rappers like Lefty Gunplay "S/O to bro" 35:00 Beeeeeeppppp....... "what's that!"... Chito: "Oh that's my ankle monitor!" 41:05 Chito was fired on his first day at work in jail 43:00 He got transferred, a few ppl recognized him, overall, Chito doesn't like to talk about jail too much 46:50 Chito makes a lot of money from streams, says he prolly performed like a couple times, coz he got stage fright so no touring in the works 47:35 Chito loves Rosecrans Vic! S/O to him, he makes me smile, he only got good memories with Vic 49:55 Adam says Chito should do his first real show sober, Chito says : "meeeh..." 53:07 Chito is not super tapped in to the boomin latino rappers coming up and IG pages or podcasts 56:06 Chito was getting lit in jail too, wax with an apple type thing 57:35 Chito is not in speaking term with Swifty Blue, but S/O to him 58:00 Chito was in jail when $uede passed, they always talked about doing music together, life's too short 1:01:00 Chito wont do anything to jeopardize his freedom, he has his kids and nephews who count on him 1:05:50 Chito gonna record new music and focus on him, but got KB as an artist says he's super hard, he's gonna bring his artists nex time on the pod 1:11:00 Chito hasn't been around Lavish D, or seen his own mom since he got out 1:13:00 Chito has a blunt roller 'round the clock, Adam might get an edgar cut, coz Chito's haircut is gang related, and he's never been a tagger, did his mustache tattoo in jail Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We got the first interview home with the one and only Chita Ranas.
How you doing, man?
Doing good.
How you feeling?
How long you actually been home at this point?
Been home since Sunday?
Since Sunday.
And right now, well, I guess we'll stay mysterious about what day it is.
But how are you feeling?
Great.
You were down for about a year?
Not eight months?
Eight months.
Yeah.
And I don't know what's it like coming home you've had to experience this a few different times of coming home
It's like a blessing, you know like God gave me in a change type of me
And it's like I'm just trying to make this out this time
For sure
Let's go all the way back to the beginning you're from Sacramento
Tell me a little bit about what growing up was like
I mean normal
Like chilling with
I mean some shit, you know, like,
stealing bikes as kids and shit.
You stole bikes?
Yeah.
I rode bikes, so you were kind of like my arch nemesis.
I mean, I got my bike took two hell of the time when I was a kid
about fucking crackhead and shit, you know?
Really?
Yeah.
So, yeah, pretty normal upbringing all things considered?
I mean, yeah.
Was it, like, actually super mega hood and you're just kind of downplaying it because it feels
normal to you?
Nah, it was cool, bro.
I grew a cool, bro, like great parents, you feel me?
Like, I was just a dog.
dumb at you, feel me? Like, I never listened to my mama, you know? And I just gave her a lot of headaches
and shit, you know, like, like, I put it through a lot of shit. So you're old enough now that
you can see the younger version of yourself and be real about it? I do. Like, I'm not going to lie.
I see it because when I was locked up for it, I was just like, I was just look at myself like,
damn, like, what the fuck am I doing, bro? Like, you know what I mean? Like, like, everybody in the
I need for, like, they would tell me, like, damn, bro, like, you got talent, man, what you're doing in here and shit?
Like, I don't know.
Because you're surrounded by guys in there who got no opportunities or pretty basic opportunities.
I was talking about lifeers and shit like that, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's crazy, bro.
Like, damn.
And when you see the world through their point of view, the opportunities that you have on the table are pretty huge.
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot.
Because I got a shot that nobody do, you know?
Right.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know, bro, this is the support system I got right now.
It just helped a lot of life, you know?
Like, it's making me, like, push hoardering and shit to go further.
You know, like, like, last term I didn't write shit, bro.
I was just getting high and fucking up, you know, like, whatever.
Last time you're in jail.
Yeah, I was going through some shit, you know, but this time I came home and I was like,
you know, I'm a program, bro, and that's like, I was working out.
I was eating a lot, bro.
I came my weight back, you know, like, I came home heavy, bro.
I'm like, yeah, I feel happy, too, bro.
I'm like, okay, like, man, life is beautiful, bro, you know?
Because the interview I watched with you from like a year ago with Rosecrans Vic,
you were a hell of skinny in that one.
I mean, yeah, like I said, bro, go through the depression, bro,
like lose somebody you close to and shit and stuff, you know?
Like, that's going to fuck you up, you know?
But I was cool with me now.
I beat it, you feel me?
Like, even though I lost everything, I gained a lot more.
A lot more.
I bought my first house, you know?
Like, I got a fly whip.
First day out, fly whip, out the dealer, you know, like, like,
I'm doing shit that I never thought I could do, like, two years ago.
You know?
Now I'm like, I ain't got to worry about shit, bro.
I didn't even want to come to the interview, bro.
I wanted to chill at the house, bro.
Like, I tell her, what's the point of having this big-ass house if I can't even be in it,
bro, you know?
Okay, but wait, are you motivated to be in the crib, or do you want to be outside doing
or are you perfectly happy to just be low-key?
I'm happy being low-key now.
Right.
Back then, I was everywhere slats.
He was like, man, I ain't even going in the car with you, bro.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Really?
Yeah.
Why, it was hot like that?
What?
Junior, what did you say earlier, bro?
Like, ooh, ta lokiando, man.
So you public enemy number one?
Not really, bro.
I'm cool, boy.
I'm cool.
Like, just get to know me, bro.
Like, I'm flying, bro.
Like, I'm chilling.
Right.
But, I mean, do you consider yourself, like, super controversial?
Or are you talking about more on, like, a street level versus, like, a rapper level?
I don't know.
I don't know what you mean by that.
There's a lot of people who don't like you on a street level more so,
because I don't see you that way as a musician, right?
Both, yeah, look, music-wise, some of the fuck I don't like my music.
I don't like my old shit at all, bro, like, you know?
But, you know, a lot of people look my shit.
Everybody love my shit.
Why do they know everybody, be like, you know what I'm talking about?
Why do they not like it?
Because it doesn't sound Mexican enough?
Nah, I don't know, bro, because everybody said, because I sang nothing and all that type of shit.
Do people, are you still pushing the Spanish in the, like, mixing all that in?
I still talk my shit, bro.
Like, you see, I'm fly with my shit.
Like, I talk it.
Because you tell me, like, I got the idea from, like, listening to people talk about you
and listening to your older stuff that the major, like, innovation you had when you came out
is that you were kind of rapping like a real rapper, but then you were also just mixing the
Spanish in with it.
Like, I want to be like, man, look what I could do.
Right.
You can't do it.
Look what I could do.
they can't even speak Spanish, bro.
Like, look at me, bro, you feel me?
Like, I could talk it perfect, bro, perfect, you know?
And what I could talk about like this, you feel me?
What I heard Vic say that kind of, like, he knows better than me,
but he said that, like, you sound totally normal speaking English
and you sound totally natural with the Spanish too, right?
I understand.
That's my first language, man.
Like, there was a rule at that house when I was growing up.
My mama said you can't speak no English.
No, my daddy said you can't speak no English in the crib.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm like, damn.
You know, and then the times that I went to Mexico
and I was like, eight, they're like,
no talking no English over here.
So I'm like, damn, bro.
Sometimes I wanted to, like, show out to the little Mexicans
on the Mexican kids over there, like,
a little fly English and then they're like, what you say?
That's some fly shit, just barely to have some English going on?
Yeah, you're very funny, like, like, what you're doing?
Right.
Like, I feel me, I'm like, I'm fly with it.
Wow, that's funny.
But, okay.
Um, so you had a pretty normal childhood.
Were you getting in trouble in shit?
Yeah.
Were you, like, from very early on?
Yeah.
What kind of shit?
Like, it's cool.
Like, like, fights and shit.
Like, I'll be ditching school a lot.
I didn't want to go to school, bro.
Like, I hated it.
Like, I hated it so much.
I dropped out hell of early, bro.
You know?
What grade?
Seventh?
Oof.
That was a lot.
Like, 12.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm like, fuck this, bro.
Like, I would, like, hide, like, you know?
My mom do you think I'll be thinking I'd be still going to school.
So I'd be hopping like there was a little hole right there
That little middle school I was going to
I was just sneak out through a little hole
I was a fat kid back then too
Like fatter than I was, but so I'm just like
Fat motherfuck going
Crossing the field
Right there and I used to lay on Northern
Right there. I was like
Bro, I grew up right there too
So it's like like it's crazy like you know
What would you go do?
Smoke weed
At somebody's house or
No, my house
Or do you just go back to your crib while your mom's at work or whatever?
My dad was, my dad's a tricker, so he's gone.
You feel me?
He's gone.
Like, I'm talking about sometimes months.
So it just me and my mom, and my mom used to work at the 99-scent store.
So ain't nobody's taking care of me and my sisters at home, bro.
Like, it just me and my sisters, bro.
Like, you know?
Right.
And I was sometimes, like, trying to sneak out, bro.
You feel what I mean?
Like, that's at the time when I met my band mama too and shit.
Like, I was like sneaking out to go see her type of shit.
You know what I was just trying to like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, bro, you meet girls in saying at a young age.
You're doing anything, bro.
You're sneaking out that night.
You're doing a whole lot of shit.
You feel me?
So you were always having hose from a young age?
Yeah.
Nice.
I was fly with it, bro.
You feel me?
I'll be talking to my son and my son like, Daddy.
I got like five bribes.
I was like, too.
What?
How old is it?
He's nine, bro.
Nine?
And he said you got five bids?
I was like chill, really like.
What?
That's pretty fucking funny.
I know.
I was like, watch my mom here.
You like, because they live with my mom.
So my mom, she's like, man, like,
Like, what the fuck?
Like, what's wrong with you?
Like, why are you talking like that?
That doesn't make you want to pull him aside and be like, listen.
Mm-hmm.
We got to talk about this.
I talk to my little boy.
That's my pride of enjoy right there, you feel me?
So I do be talking to him.
Like, you're good and shit.
Right.
But it's just like, like, I just wish that I could have him with me, you feel
me?
Like, if I have him with me, even though I was gone,
like my little girl, she grew up without me.
You feel me?
She's four years old.
She grew up with like four years I was gone.
Right.
You know?
And so you're separate.
from the baby mama so you are not really getting to be involved with the kids as much as you'd want to be
it's not that i don't want to it's just that like i said it was fucked up you know what i mean how she handled
it no like i got like the way she like okay like i said like she left me when i was in prison
right i heard you talk about another interview yeah and i was kind of surprised that you were just
being so open about it and just talking about it
Like, I said, I don't want to gain to that, but, like, my fucking, man.
But it's all out.
So, like, yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that's hurt.
You feel me?
That's hurt.
So I was like, I thought she was never going to leave, bro.
Like, never.
Like, she would always make that thread.
Like, I'm leaving.
You know?
Sometimes she hit me so horrid.
I called her,
boom.
I'm like,
and since then,
I'm like,
all right,
see you.
Yeah.
She's built cool as fuck,
though, bro.
Like,
that's one,
like I told you,
like,
now I ain't afraid
to nobody but my baby mama.
Really?
You feel me?
How long were you with her?
I was a kid,
bro.
Since you're a kid.
Yeah.
How deep into the prison sentence was it
when she left?
Like two years?
Damn,
that's gonna be wild to,
like,
go through the process of,
like,
losing that.
So it's just like,
like,
It felt weird because when you go in, you got a type of life, right, before you go in.
And then my dad told me, bro, like, I was in that holding tank and I called him like, like, hey, like, I got locked up.
He's like, well, I hope you ain't calling me for hell because I ain't helping you.
And I was like, I got my money, bro.
Like, I got money.
Like, I don't need you, bro.
Like, what the fuck?
I'm just letting you know him to give me the courtesy.
Like, I'm letting you know that the house got raided and I'm locked up.
Right.
You know?
Since then I haven't spoke to my dad.
I barely spoke to him
this time I came home.
Just because you didn't like how he handled?
Just because I don't want to leave shit
unfinished.
You know, like life is too
fucking short, bro.
My dad is not getting any younger, you feel me?
Right.
Like, if I feel old as fucking,
my bones hurt, imagine how my dad works.
Like, you feel me?
Like, so it's like,
I want to just just letting him like,
man, well, so everything I did till
now I was just like to show him like, look,
look what I got, bro.
You feel me?
Like, who else do it like me?
Like, nobody has done it like me like that.
You feel me?
Like, he always said I wasn't going to be nobody.
He always told me this.
He always told me that.
You know, like...
Did he say that to you from a really young age?
Or did he start to say that to you once you started getting in trouble and shit?
Because I started getting in trouble, like I said, it's my fault.
I got nothing to, nobody to blame but me.
You feel me?
I decided to get in, like, to do them stupid shit.
You feel me?
So it's just like...
Like, fuck it, bro.
Like, I didn't complain.
I was just like, all right, fuck it.
You know, like...
I'm guessing that the thing that...
that's important to you is not just that you made it financially or whatever,
but that you did it by being yourself and not having to conform and go.
I have to change shit.
Exactly.
Except this time, like last time I came home, bro, I came home with a loose groove type
shit, you feel me?
I was a wilder, bro, I was snapping on everybody.
I was snapping on my girl.
I'm over here like, man, this.
Like, you feel me?
And then, like.
Why do you think that was?
The perks, for sure.
I was wilding, bro.
I'm talking about like,
crazy
you know
like
this syrup is crazy too
bro like
fuck bro you know what I'm saying
so it's just like
that shit just
turned me into like
I thought it was me
you feel me
and like I thought like
oh that
when I'm on high
when I'm high off this opiate
bro like
I like this person
you know
this person's fun
bro like this person is like
don't give a shit bro like
you know
and sometimes
times when I began high, like, like, when I got locked up this time, that first day was crazy,
bro, because I was kicking like a motherfucker, like, you know?
And then, like, I went through it, you know?
Like, uh.
What was it, like, a couple days or?
Nah, it's just two weeks, bro.
Two weeks where you're like on your deathbed?
I'm sad, bro, I'm over here in MCJ.
I'm a top rack like this and shit because I'm in like, I'm with like, they're the black guys
and shit.
Like, they thought I was from Hoover.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
And I just get out, bro.
Like, the first day out, bro, I'm like, man, I'm going, like, they pop the
seal, and I'm like, fuck it, bro.
I'm sliding out.
And I mean some homies from Florence.
And I was like, well, shut.
They, like, they know me and shit.
Like, I said less.
And I was, that was it.
That was it.
I was always on my toes there, though, bro.
I was like, the first night I was just chilling, bro.
Like, all right?
He was watching TV the whole night.
Right.
On the phone.
Like, fuck it.
You know?
Right.
ain't shit to do, but on the phone and watch TV.
So, do you start getting fucked up in jail,
or do you leave it behind on the streets?
Nah, like, okay, when I got locked up,
that's when I started fucking with that shit.
Oh, okay.
You know what I mean?
Like, like, I'd just be bored, bro,
and I'd be like, fuck it that's got.
Right.
And that's how it was, bro.
But, like, this time, I was just, like, crazy
because it's like, when I kicked it,
I was like, man, fuck it.
Like, I don't need that shit.
I thought I needed smoking weed,
because if I didn't have a blend in my hand back then, bro,
I'm like, no, I'm like, bro.
Like, I just feel anxious.
I need to park or I need to blend.
Like, you start off doing it to feel something,
and then as time goes by, it just becomes such a habitual party.
Yeah, when I be high, bro, I'm like, man,
everything, bro.
Everything, you know what I'm saying?
I don't see my bracelet came out.
You think, like, the drugs in a way it helps you,
like, put off growing up?
Yeah.
Because it makes you not want to deal with all the things that you should be dealing with as a man.
Like, yeah.
Like, not shit.
And that's how it was with me.
Like, I had a lot to deal with that fucking, like, first time I came home, you feel me?
Like, a lot, bro.
My parents didn't want me pulling up to the crib.
Like, I couldn't see my kids.
It's like, man, what the fuck, bro?
Like, the point of being a parent if you can't be a dad, bro.
Like, the hell.
Why were they keeping you away from the kids?
Because I just came home, bro, and it's like, there's, like,
there was just a lot of shit going on with me, bro.
Like, you know, like, they thought I was going to come home and start, like,
turning up, you know what I was going to do, you know?
I was just chilling, you know?
Definitely.
So, okay, like, you did one longer bid and then this shorter one?
Yeah.
Okay, how long was that first one?
Nah, first, I kept down getting locked up, though, before this shit.
But I kept bailing out.
Right.
I mean, I'm not going to stay here.
If I got the money, I'm going on.
You know?
But then there was that one time, bro, that they're like, hey, you're on probation.
You got a probation violation.
I was like, what?
Hold, no bail.
I was like, damn.
I was just like, sorry, I just had to be forward.
Like, this time, bro.
Solis try to bail me out.
Nothing.
You feel me?
I had a hold on me from Sacramento.
I'm like, even this time I was even supposed to be here.
I was supposed to be here.
Uh-huh.
I was supposed to be back in San Francisco.
County right you know could you got out briefly how long were you out like nine months ago when
you got up was in there for a month oh it was a month and then you got locked up again yeah
damn stupid shit how are you going to avoid that this time around just got move around a little
smarter or no no just don't move the same as i was moving back then right you know be low key
low key is the key you know is it possible to even be like
a Mexican street rapper and be able to be like truly low-key or is it just inevitable that you're just going to end up with people wanting to test your spot with me bro that's the thing with me like I like sometimes okay look I like being out there like I like my fucking scene like damn is that cheeto you know but I don't like like people approaching me like like are you chito like you know it's just like what the fuck bro like
Yeah.
It's very hard to tell if somebody's a fan or somebody who doesn't like you.
And that feeling of having to be like on alert for everybody when you're in like a crowded place.
Bro, when you're like a celebrity or you're even known at all, that's shit.
It's a very nerve-wracking thing.
Like if fans would be more respectful, would be like, because that's something I'm eating, boy.
And someone was taking pictures while I was eating.
Then I turned around.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Right.
Bro, that's disrespectful as hell.
Especially coming from the prison mentality.
Yeah, exactly.
Bro, like, come on, man.
I came on a fuck up.
So he's like, you don't understand how I'm feeling right now, bro?
Like, chill.
Right.
You feel me?
I'm always, like, aware, bro.
Like, I'm just chilling.
Like, when I came home, first day out, last time, like, it was nothing I wanted to do,
bro.
I was just in the studio, making songs, and I was like, bro, like, fuck that.
You know, like, try to go home.
Like, I'm just trying to chill.
Like, that's why this time, that's what I did.
Mm-hmm.
I just chill, bro.
Like, I'm not going nowhere.
I'm just kicking it.
Right.
You know?
This is too risky being out there, right?
It's not even that, bro.
It's like, I moved up out of the city already.
You feel me?
Mm-hmm.
Like, sack ain't got nothing for me, fool?
Like, what the fuck?
So, Sack's over?
It's not over.
You're not trying to spend time there?
It's not over.
It's not that.
You feel me?
It's not that.
It's just that.
You know, like,
ain't that the whole plan since the get-go.
Like, don't you want to be rich?
Don't you want to have a big-ass house?
There ain't no big-ass houses in the hood.
You know what I'm saying?
C-Mail moved to Texas and some shit like that.
You feel me?
Right.
Smart, man.
You respect it.
Yeah, like, what the f***?
Like, can't hate on him?
What the fuck?
How are you going to, like, bro, if I hate on you for having something better with me,
like, that's just going to be like, what the fuck's wrong with me, bro?
But you know, like, the crabs in the barrel mentality is to say that it's, like, pussy to leave the city that you came up rapping in, right?
Even though we all know that's crazy.
Can't call me pussy, bro.
That's the only thing I'm saying.
This is not done what I've done and been where I've been, bro.
Like, man, so if a motherfuck ain't on my level, the fuck out my way.
Who are you looking at when you were coming up out of Sacramento?
Because you really got popping what like four or five years ago and who are you looking up to coming out of that area?
Were you looking at mostly black artists or whether there's Mexican artists coming out of there too?
Nah, it's like like back then I used to like hear a lot of shit bro like
heard a lot of music growing up.
You feel me?
Corrillo's hip-hop all this shit.
You know like growing up I was into everything.
You feel me?
I used to learn how to play the little bass guitar and you.
shit because like you feel me I want to learn something you know so it's like my
yeah like you know your parents were putting you on the music not really like
they would just hear it you know like my mom be cleaning she'll be slapping little
bookies and shit you know right my dad would be in the job I mean my dad sometimes
forced me like to go here and shit so he'll be just slapping the hell of music loud and I'm like
damn so these guitars and shit back in I'll be like a little kid like man too many
guitars but then it's like you don't fuck with the rock shit for I love it too like you do like that
black shabbit shit like I'm all like I shit horrid that's sick and shit horrid you know I like a lot of
shit hell yeah um okay so what made you actually really want to start rapping though just the fact
that it changed my life you knew yeah that this was a big opportunity but how did you know that
you were going to be nice at it or what what even gave you that drive fuck I don't even know
I just knew motherfuckers
wasn't fucking with me on that Spanish shit
I always do it fluent
it was not
you know like I'll hear a lot of motherfuckers
and it's not then you know like I'm really in
you feel me like
I get a lot of rappers music and shit
and that's just ass and shit you feel me like
so it's like I know when I hear my shit
and I can put it on replay and I'm like oh fuck
I know I got a good song you feel me
I like good music so I got good music
so I know that I'm good
How long are you grinding before it actually
started to take off though.
Like, how long?
Two years of putting shit out on YouTube
and having it not really go crazy before it started hitting?
It was really like that serious back then though.
Like, I would just go to the studio just to like
get away from the house and shit and kick it.
You know, like that would be like the only reason why I'll be there.
And I'll just be chatting for all.
I'd be having hell of fun right there in the studio.
Like that she's fun, you know?
Like, and then when you drop a virus and then like
homies be like, damn, I got shit hard.
Like, hell yeah.
You know?
Like I knew my shit was.
good because even then producers like engineers back then they would be like damn
bro like okay like your shit clean I'll be like all right and that should
building my confidence up you know I'm gonna start taking with it you know
what was that first song that took off which one like patriando like a
North SAC baby right yeah and that's just like did it just you put it on
YouTube and it just started going up or was there anything in particular that
I gave it to Slash and Slash posted it and then I reposted it and then she went up
You know was it on King Lilj's YouTube at first?
Nah, not that one oh okay not that one but you did have some stuff that went on there and was that like a part of the come up
Yeah, but I was the end you know like
That sure wasn't nothing serious like that you know
What was your relationship with him early on? I met the man like one time that's it I met the man like one time that's it
or twice actually I see
like
people act like it was more than it was
not even that
like people don't even say shit
oh okay you know like I don't hear nobody
talking about it
okay I used to be an AK-47 boy
but like that was then bro like
you know
for sure
it's just like sometimes I talk to people
and they talk about their music and they just talk about
putting it on YouTube and it just goes crazy
and that's just they blow up from there
and some people
they got to kind of like buy promo
and like figure out how to sort of
get it into that position
it's like sometimes it seems like the algorithm
just kind of does it for you
I ain't never had to buy promo
you never did it
I don't like
I was blessed
I was blessed
where your music just kind of stood out
from the beginning
because like in my section
there's nobody like me like that
you know
I mean there'd be like some like some
fool's trying to rap but they just trash did you feel like you got the support
locally right away or was it like they started fucking with you because you
started doing numbers in the beginning like from the beginning they're like man
you're going up mm you know like my OGs from my hood like they would tell me
me you're going up you know man they're telling me that I didn't like fuck it must be
true you feel me because look at I'm at you feel me and like I said motherfuckers
like the you the normal motherfucker in my position bro like it would be struggling
right now you know just because you've been locked up a couple times and it's just the way that
i see shit like i see motherfuckers inside with no canteen and all nothing and i'm just like what the
fuck and here i am with hell of food i'm like damn no no i'm glad i don't know how that feel like
who was taking care of your way locked up the label your family solace my girl
solace is the owner of o'tr yeah slaps all like that's it you know like all my homies they would be
Like, what's something?
You know, like a few.
Like, my little brothers,
my little brother got locked up.
When I went down, my little brother got locked up too.
And that shit hurt.
You know?
So it's just like, now that's why I came on different.
I'm just like, man, like,
I ain't trying to lose my little brothers no more, you feel me?
Right.
I'm trying to show my little niggas, like,
hey, bro, you can rap, you feel me?
So you lost your little brother while you were locked up?
Both.
Like, I lost highly.
And then I lost my little brother, demon,
demon got locked up.
Right.
Yeah.
Now, you know, you find out on this and shit, you feel me?
How much worse is that being locked up and having to deal with a loss, not being able to be around for the family?
It's the same shit, bro.
You know, like, yeah, you could talk to him and all that, and I'm still thankful for that, but it's just like, like, fine time, bro, this shit hurts, you feel me?
So, like, his baby was just born, too.
That's my goddaughter, you know?
So I'm just like, when I went down, all that shit started starting.
like unraveling this shit.
I'm just like, damn, like,
my, what the fuck?
Like, I was damn near gonna give up all my money
just to get this nigga a lawyer.
You know, this nigga's like,
bro, it's a lost cause, you feel me?
Like, I'm like, nigga, don't even get off that fight.
You feel me?
Like, you still got it.
You know?
That little nigga, that was like,
my pride and joy right there, you feel me?
Like, I got his name's tied on me.
You don't feel me?
Like, I was with that kid
every single day when I was home.
You know, like I love that kid
Like I seen that little nigga grow up bro
You feel me
Like I seen that little kid
Like riding around with long ass hair and shit
You feel me and that shit
I was just be like damn this little nigga hot boy
You know
Like I like him
I'm trained to go
You know
You got locked up
When I got locked up
He got locked up too
You know
Like last time
He came home first
And then when I came home
He's just big, whoa kid, huh?
And they go, whoa, I'm like, God damn.
And here I'm skinny as fuck.
I'm just like, what the fuck?
The hell they feed you.
You know?
And just like having that, having his support right there too.
Like, that kid, like, I had my life because of him.
You feel me?
Like, that kid was everywhere, bro, overprotective as fuck.
What that, let nobody near me?
You feel me?
I love that fucking kid
You feel me
So that's why I'm just like
Bro like like
Man man my young ones is telling me like
Bro change and these fools are hot kids
I'm just like bro like
I gotta set the right example for them now
You know
I'm almost 30
You know
But the type of shit that you thought was normal
When you were 18 or 16 or whatever
Is probably the type of shit that
You don't want
your young homies to have to go through
that you live through, right?
Well, it's like seeing my son grow up too
because I see my little son, like,
reminds me of me.
That little kid looked just like me
when I was a kid, a little fat boy, you know?
Except the little motherfucker fly as fuck, you know?
Like, he's my little nigger.
So it's like, I gotta put out
a right example for him, you feel?
me, like, that's why I'm, like,
learning how to, like,
I would disrespect his mama,
a lot you feel me so I'll be trying to like now I'll be trying to like kick back like you know what
like before I make that call to her I'm gonna just kick back before I'm ready for that you
feel me because I ain't trying to be like ah and then I'm here I go again snapping there was something
you said before where you said that when you started rapping it didn't feel you know
competitive or it didn't feel like that big a deal how does it feel now like do you feel like
being number one
really matters to you?
Is it just about being the best version of you?
Is it about just making money
to be able to feed your family and take care of yourself?
Like the money going to come regardless
whether I'm doing rap or whether the fuck I'm in the fields
or whether the fuck I'm working construction.
The money going to come.
I'm still going to have money.
You know, but it's just competition.
Like, the fuck, like, why?
Like, I ain't, I ain't know no competition with nobody, bro.
Like, I just want to be.
better than me. You know, like, there's not a lot of rappers too that I want to
collab either. You feel me? Like, I just want to be me. I want to practice my
verses. I want to see how I sound on this beat. I want to see my voice on this whole
complete song. You know? Like, that song was cool. Okay, now, let's make a better one. You
feel me? Like, I'd be having writers block too all the time and shit and it's like,
I'm trying to beat that. Really? You feel me? So it's just like,
You overthink it when it comes to music these days?
Nah, I just get bored.
I just get bored.
I'd be hearing the beats and shit,
and the beats is just, like, trash,
and I'm just like, damn, bro.
And then I'd be hearing, like, other beats,
and then it's just, like, yeah, like,
well, can I, like, really think to it and shit?
And then I got Sal Trisi.
Sal Trisiezy, that's my boy,
and I got mad bricks, right?
They make me beats.
But it's, like, like,
like, I got a short attention span.
too, bro. Like, you feel me? Like, well, you only
been free for four days. So how much
have you recorded since you got out?
Shit. Because I feel like a lot of people
come home and just go crazy
in the studio right away because they have so much
to build up. Really?
Oh, big.
So when it happens, it'll happen?
Never, I feel like, like, fuck it. Let's do it.
Let's do it. You know, like,
I want to go to the studio today, but then I'm just
like, eh.
Like, let me enjoy my little freedom
real quick, you see. You feel?
like before anything.
Is the jail mentality
not like a good mentality
to go into the studio with?
Like people don't want to hear that energy.
I don't know what you mean by that one.
Versus like...
Tripping and shit?
All right, if you just,
if Friday night you fucking go out
to a crazy party and you get a bunch of bitches
and you're doing a bunch of drugs
and you're having a grand all time
and then Saturday you go in the studio
and you still are in that headspace
of doing a bunch of things,
of fly shit.
Is that the environment
in which you're going to make
your best song?
Or is it going to be
after you just got done
sitting in a fucking room
with a bunch of dudes
for a year?
My best songs,
like,
like, let's try and shit
like that
is when I'll be wilding.
Right.
When I'll be like,
like, I'll be doing my shit
and then I'd be hitting the studio
that same day
and I talk about what happened.
Right.
You know, so I'll just be
I'll be doing my shit,
you know?
Right.
And when I get to the studio,
like,
okay,
I just, you know, that shit feel fun.
Because I feel like a lot of artists have that perspective, like,
I'm not going to be able to make a great song if I'm wearing my pajamas.
That's overthinking it too much.
That's why I feel like a lot of rappers get fly as fuck to go to the studio,
even though there's nobody around.
I do that too, though.
I ain't even going to lie.
I ain't even going to lie because look, look, look.
You put on all your chains and it's just you?
What I say, what I say, if you look good, you feel good.
You look like a million bucks.
You're going to get that million bucks.
And if you feel good, you rap good.
And if you rap good, you eat good.
I damn, nigga, I am hungry right now.
Like, boy. Like, on God.
And you're like, yeah.
You've been doing it for a long time.
Do you feel like, is there like a sense of like,
holy shit, there's a new popping rapper
coming up every six months or whatever?
Or do you feel like, have you earned your status
where you're going to be respected no matter what comes out?
Like, I mean, a motherfucker gonna respect it regardless and shit.
Cause like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you can't deny my word that thick either, you know?
Like, I'm quick with it, like, you know?
I'm fly with it.
Like I said, they ain't fucking with me, so I'm just like, you know what I mean?
So I'd be okay, like, if motherfuckers respect that thing,
respect, like, the originality that I got.
You feel me?
me because I know motherfuckers be hearing other
full songs and be like, what the fuck? This isn't like Cheeto
shit. Right. You know?
Because to me, like you're a younger dude,
but then when I see somebody like
Lefty coming out with the Cheeto
flow, I'm like, oh shit, like your influence
is big enough that
people are almost like giving you that
OG status, you know? Yeah.
Like, acknowledging that you've been
influential on a lot of different people.
Shout to him, yeah. What did you think when you saw that
song? Was that kind of
crazy to just be like, damn, people really
see my impact.
Yeah.
You don't seem like overtly enthusiastic.
I'm not even going to lie to you.
Like, you feel me?
Like, shout out to bro.
You feel me?
Like, I'm gonna fucking work hard.
What the fuck is that?
Are you just smoke detector or something?
I don't know.
You'll be smoking in here all the.
God damn it.
Yeah, it's the TV.
Oh, it's the beeping.
Oh, my gang.
Hey.
It's his ankle monitor.
My ankle monitor.
Cool, brother, like.
Dude, we're never going to run out of funny shit that can just randomly have it on this podcast,
because that's a first right there.
Oh, it was so loud.
I felt like it was coming from the ceiling.
I thought it was the light.
I'm like, why would the light make a beep?
Okay.
So back to your regular scheduled broadcast.
Yeah, we were just kind of talking about, like, the next generation of dudes coming up that may or may not have been influenced by you.
Yeah.
How do you feel about that?
I mean, good because I was influenced by other,
good because I mean, I was influenced by other fools too, you know?
So like if I do that to somebody else and, you know,
and they're grinding hard because of it.
Shit, niggas, and shout-outs to me.
You feel me?
Oh, sure.
Because I can't a lie, bro.
Got crazy work that thing too, though.
Like, you be grinding.
I see him everywhere, bro.
it was talking about him in the pain too
I'm like, what the hell?
Right.
I'm like, all right, what's up?
Definitely.
And you guys are on the same label,
so do you think it'll end up working together?
Right now, I just want to focus on me.
You know, like,
like, bro, God has wave already,
you know?
Like, let me get back into me,
how to continue where I left off, you know?
Right.
So, like, I told you before, like,
kit features, I'm not really worried about that right now.
Let me show you what I could do with quick, you know?
That's important to you to, like,
be able to show that you can,
maintain your status
doing it yourself?
Yeah.
I even maintain my status, just like
like, let me just shine real quick,
you know? Like, that's it.
Like, I've been gone.
I only got to shine, like, I only got
like, you know, I only got that little 15 minutes of fame, you know?
I mean, a lot of people get locked up and
they get out and the views on their shit
be hurting.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Then there's some people, there's like other artists who they get locked up and the shit when they get out is fucking huge.
And it's like, I feel like you're probably more on the side of where people are going to be dying to see what your music is like when you get out.
But, I mean, it is kind of crazy.
Like, your spot is not guaranteed.
If you get locked up for a year, you might lose your spot.
Depending on how good your music actually is, you know.
The good thing is that I had hell of shit saved up to him.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I wasn't really tripping.
I was just like, I just more.
mad at a point that I was locked up.
You know, like, I was calling him.
I was calling my girl snapping on him.
I was calling my girl snapping on her.
To drop the music?
Nah, it's just like,
I wasn't happy in there, bro.
Like, I wasn't focusing music again right there
until, like, towards the end of the term.
You know, in the beginning, I'm just like,
fuck, bro, let me get out again.
You know, because it didn't even feel like I was home.
You know?
I just felt like I had a dream.
I was home.
I woke up, and I was somewhere.
else you transferred me some else.
Mm-hmm.
So I was just like, fuck.
But they were dropping music while you were locked up, right?
Like, how many videos do you think you dropped?
I really don't know.
I dropped a couple, though.
Okay.
So while you're locked up, are you getting into bullshit, or are you trying to
keep your nose clean?
It's got to be kind of tempting, right,
to be doing all the wild shit as long as you got all this time in your hands?
I ain't gonna lie. L.A. County was fucking fun, bro.
That shit was fun as hell.
Really?
Yeah.
It's more lit to get locked up down here than to get locked up up north.
Nah, it's just like, I ain't ever been in LA County, bro.
You feel me?
So I was like, okay.
Like, it's just something else, you know?
Everybody talked about in Lake County, and I was like, okay, fuck.
You know, like, let's see what it is.
Right.
And everybody cool as fuck, bro.
Like, I'm telling you, like, like, you feel me?
Like, that's the reason why I do it.
You feel me?
Because, like, the homies be like, bro, you're the one.
You're the one.
I was like, okay.
I was in MCJ, I went from MCJ.
I went to Supermax.
When I was in Supermax, I was just chilling for a little bit.
They made me a trustee within, like, the fucking first three days that I was there.
And I went there.
I only lasted a week, bro.
I got fired my first day.
I went to work.
What's a trustee?
I guess you go to the kitchen and shit and work.
You know?
So they had me as a trustee and I got fired my first day.
It just wasn't for you.
You were fucking up or what?
No.
Bitch ass.
who would I try to like, like, talk down on me and shit, you feel me?
I'm like, what the fuck?
I ain't talking to me like this, nigga.
And he's like, what?
Like I said, you ain't talking to me like this, nigga?
He's like, because it was over my canteen, bro.
Because you had too much and he had too little?
No, I have my, no, fuck, I don't give shit about that.
It's like, I had my canteen, but this dumb-ass motherfucker dropped the receipt.
I had another receipt in my pocket, you know?
So this thing is like, where's your receipt?
I could have easily
say, y'all dumb ass dropped it, but I was like, here,
take this one.
I didn't fucking know that I'm supposed to have a fucking
receipt in there.
You know?
I just said, take this one.
And this motherfucker tried to grab my hand
and throw it in there.
I'm not, hey, you bitch-ass, nigga,
he ain't supposed to be touching me?
The fuck?
He's like, what?
That's when I snap on him.
That's when another hood I gave me in and some lady came in
and she's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, relax.
Relax.
You're good.
Get back in line.
So I'm going back in line and shit
I'm just like damn dick I got fired huh
Yeah you did
Real just like uh
So I'll go back to my dorm and shit
I was just like down
I'm kicking in
And then
The next morning I'm like I guess I can get fired
And right when I said that
Boom they called me
I wrote my shit up
I'm like the fuck
I go back down
I'll go back up a thing
Yeah
And I'm in blues again
And I'm just chilling there
And like a week later, they transferred me to South.
And I don't know.
And I was in the South, I barely landed there, bro.
I was all scruffy and shit, you know?
My hair was getting long.
I ain't let nobody touch my tail.
Feel me?
So I wasn't getting no haircut.
So.
That is like the boldest hairstyle.
You got it like just back and then there's a shaved spot and then you got the crazy-ass tail.
It's like an optical illusion.
It's my little hummus got it.
No, that shit's hard.
Yeah.
That's an innovative hairstyle.
Yeah.
It's my shit
I'm resting in peace,
Barker, you feel
me?
But,
yeah,
they transferred me
to South,
and when I landed
in South,
it was just like,
it was cool.
It was cool as fuck.
You know,
like,
I landed in a different,
I landed in the Dome 45,
and then when I was there,
they're like,
instantly somebody was like,
hey,
are you cheated?
And I said,
yeah.
You know what I was all right?
All right.
And then I'm in the shower, bro, and there's a homie there from 18th Street,
he just keeps looking at me, and he's looking back at him.
He's like, like, you're from 18?
He's like, yeah.
Big-ass 18 on the face.
I'm like, which side?
He's like, I'm from the north side.
I'm like, okay.
I'm cheat on him.
He's like, okay.
And he asked me, what's up with us?
And I was like, I don't get you, fuck.
He's like, that's right
I'm like, okay
And that
that nigga became my best friend
And that motherfucker
You feel me? I'm a homie striker
You feel me, that's a real motherfucker
right there
That was my boy the whole time
I was right there, you feel me?
So we always hear about this divide in California
Between like the Southerners
And the northerners
But you went to jail in L.A. County
And it was all good, people weren't really tripping
You were well-received?
Yeah, they loved me right there
They're cool as fuck
Like I said
I got nothing about to say about them
They're cool as fuck
They know how to program
They like you don't feel me
Like my respects
You feel me
I feel me
I feel like I watched you talk about jail
In a couple different interviews
And it seems like you are the type of dude
Who prefers to not
Say too much about
All the things that go on in there
Fuck no that shit
That's important to you
And we're talking bro
Like
Look at this bro
Look at this bro look like a beautiful life here
Bro freedom
Why you want to talk about you?
Right.
You know?
We got freedom, bro.
I mean, yeah, you have fun times in there, but, you feel
mean, that's over.
Thank God.
Definitely.
You know, I'm like, shit, I just want to get money
and fuck bitches, bro, that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
You're single right now?
No.
No, you got a girl.
But you still fucking bitches?
Nah, bro.
What the fuck on?
You said, you know what I mean?
Sorry.
You said you want to fuck bitches.
Well, like, you know what I mean?
Get pussy.
Right, right.
right. You know, my girl pussy.
Damn. I just did it. I just fucked
your day up.
You got to tell your girl, like, I'm playing a character
when I go in there. Like, that's not me.
For entertainment purposes, baby.
Yeah. I got to keep these people entertained.
You know what I mean? That's what you got to tell her.
Listen to the man. She got to believe you.
So, okay, now that you're, like,
actually getting back to normal life, though, like, what
do you feel like you have to do to really
hit the ground running as an artist.
Like what, I know there's still
shit you want to do in your career.
Is it enough for you to just keep
putting shit out or are you trying to like
do some big shit? I don't know
what the game plan looks like.
Fuck, I don't even know what the game plan.
I just can't remember. I just want to enjoy life
real quick, you know? Like, I have
all this money, bro. Like, I haven't, I ain't
never had money like that, you know?
Like, I had money before I got like the fucking shit.
I'm getting wrong. But, boy, I was going to my
kid. I was going on my BM.
Like, you know?
Like, this is the first time, bro, where I'm like,
it's about me, bro.
Like, fuck.
I just buy me a fucking hellcat, bro.
Right, bro.
Like, come on, man.
I was in the pen when I did this.
I was in the pin when about the house, bro.
Right.
Is your money, like, 90% from streams?
Yeah.
And then what else is there?
Just shows, but you haven't really been able to do a lot of that.
I never did a show like that.
You never really made money from shows.
That's interesting.
You planning on touring and shit?
Fuck, bro.
Like, I'm not going to.
I began stage fright.
Really?
Yeah.
I began to get like stupid drums.
I don't remember what I did that day.
It must be weird being as popular as you are.
But you haven't had to get used to performing.
That time I performed, like when I was at Rosecrans thing,
when I was at Big Sting's thing, I had an ankle monitor again that day, too.
I was, fuck the, bro.
In that interview?
Nah, not an interview, bro.
It was a show.
You did a show with him as well.
I did a show with him like, like, hell of years ago.
And.
I did know.
knows you were in a really good mood in that one interview, too, but I wasn't sure if you were fucked up.
I fucking love that guy, bro.
I fucking love that guy. He's a real, like, huge supporter, bro. I got nothing about to say.
Shut up to Rose Crens Vick. It's like, look, look, look, look, look at him.
Like, every time I see him, I just fucking smile, bro.
Really?
I swear to God.
You just such a nice guy.
I was like, hey, look at what I see Jr. Like, I swear to God, I see him.
Like, hey, come here, motherfucker.
Right.
I just swear to God. Like, I love my, I love my homie.
Yeah, I never heard anybody say, fuck Rose Crens Vick. I hate that guy.
The problem from everybody every day.
He got smoked, niggins shit.
I wonder if he's got haters.
Like, are there Rosecrans, Vic, ops?
A very dude, you feel me?
You know what you can do, nigga.
It's a pretty good shout-out.
That's the boy right there, though.
I swear to God.
You really light up when you talk about him.
Yeah, it's just like, it's nothing but good-ass memories when I be with that fool.
Like, last time when I was like, we had a video shoot, bro.
I was my niggas, hey, shit, the car and the bin and shit.
that it was just like just the road, the drive over there, it was just like a fucking
mission, bro, like it was crazy.
Uh-huh.
You know, like, it's, I don't know why.
Like me, bro, it's something that got to happen in my day at least that'd be like,
what the fuck, why?
You know?
Like, this shit was not planned, you know?
Wait.
This is not on the schedule.
You feel me?
We were talking about, like, I think it was interesting because the average rapper does their
first show when they're not popular at all.
And like you're already in the position of becoming pretty damn popular having all these songs and millions of views and shit
And you haven't even performed yet so it's like is it the idea of it's kind of nerve-wracking
I ain't I asked you on my shit
Huh? You haven't done like a real now I mean I did a show a little G when I was like first popping and shit
When I like first pop it when I first started in shit
But that shit wasn't even nothing bro I just was there like 30 seconds and I left
Oh okay just like popped out for a song
Yeah not even a song bro like 30
Like, not even 30 seconds of my shit.
I think you should do your first show sober.
Eh.
Just so you can really feel it.
Like, really feel the awkwardness.
You sound like slabs and soul is right now, bro.
Like...
I'm just saying, man.
They literally told me I couldn't pop a park the day I signed.
I'm like, man.
They stopped you from popping a perk.
Bro, he called.
Everybody, like, don't get you too shit.
I was like, damn, bro.
I was in bad kick.
I'm like, fuck, bro.
You know?
So you were, like, getting clean while you're also happy to
fuck from signing?
Look,
signing
that shit was like,
whatever,
like I just did it
just for solace.
Like, that's my boy,
you know?
Like, yeah,
I wanted to sign this cool,
you feel me?
Like,
but, like,
I didn't understand
none of that shit.
Right.
You feel me?
Like, now I understand
what it means.
You feel me?
Like, now I'm smart.
You feel it like,
like, now I came home,
like,
I'm gonna do what I want to do.
You feel me?
Like,
I'm not doing what the label.
I'm telling me to do
like,
my respects to the label
and all that,
It's just like, like, hey, y'all wanted me for me, rightful, let me do me.
You know what I mean?
I ain't going to wild out no more.
Like, I'm cool.
I'm calm.
I'm chilling.
You feel me?
It's a fine line because, like, if you are my artist, it's like on one hand, yeah,
I want you to be yourself.
On the other hand, you're a fucking grown man.
So it's like, if you want to take a purse, what can I really say?
I don't want to have a babysitter on me all the time either.
You feel me?
Like, right.
Like, they always be having someone on me sometimes doing shit because, like, like, like,
Like back the end
it was tributt, you know?
So I would always be with baby face.
You feel me?
I don't let Tito drive the car.
My bad's a bro,
but one time I left them in the studio
and I took a car, what?
They're trying to protect their investment, right?
Well, yeah.
Fuck, I'm still human, bro.
Yeah.
Like, I still want to do shit.
But you can still be human
and not be like getting drunk
and driving around, right?
Which is probably the kind of...
I don't even drink, though.
That's the thing.
I'm just trying to think of the kind of things that they're going to stop you from doing.
Well, yeah, like, I just don't want to go back to jail or just do some stupid shit, you know?
Like, I'm cool.
Right.
Like, fuck, bro, like, now I could just walk to my mailbox with no, nothing.
You feel me, I could go to my corner store.
I ain't even got to have a fucking gun, bro.
Like, I live with white people.
You know?
I'm the only ghetto-ass-in-lawfulkin in the hood.
People at Starbucks be looking at you funny or what?
I haven't tried that yet.
Oh, you're going to try to.
Starbucks but I'm gonna try that in general though you're the only face tattooed dude in your area
people give you vibes or people mostly seem pretty cool no I mean that I mean they do be
running to their car like a little fads the time I went to Costco nigga you know I like it was
lock the doors when you walk by yeah um what's it feel like I like I feel like it's
it's very interesting that within the like Mexican rap community
community over the last couple years we've seen so many different like Instagram accounts and different like
podcasts and different like commentators and people making videos about different types of content
and talking about all these different rappers and shit how tapped in to all that kind of shit are you
and do you feel like it's overall like healthy for the scene?
I'm not even tapped in like that.
I'd be asking him like if what was going on right now you know when I was in prison I'd be like if what's going on
right now and shit about it.
I guess
And
That's it
I don't even
I don't be knowing
shit what happened
on the outside
You know
Like
I mixed a lot of shit
You know
Are you just like
In your own world
Even when you're on the outside
Or is it just the fact
That when you're locked up
You just don't pay attention
To anything
I'm just like
Hella used to be
By myself and shit
So I just
I just be chilling
I don't really be doing much
And shit
Like now bro
I just came home
Like bro
It just feels good
To be in
bed.
I'll be laying
a bed and shit. The last time I had Zay
Slabs. Everybody, bro.
You know, they're right there in the house and shit.
They were in the lab and I was just like,
hold on, I'll be right back.
I'd be gone for a minute and be in bed.
Just go lay down?
Yeah.
I fall asleep.
You walk back like five hours later
and shit. Where did you go?
I'm all my bad.
I see rappers like get out of jail and just go
there in the mall, they're in the
fucking there's the studio, they're in the club.
I'm shopping online now.
We tried that last time.
We were all tripping on everybody.
I don't spazzing on everybody.
Like, fuck that.
That was cool.
Yeah, I mean, I can understand wanting to, like, go out there and be with the people and shit.
Just imagine going out when you're kicking off a perk.
Yeah.
You're just all cranky.
So you're just always kicking perks?
Sometimes, but it's like not even because I was always having one.
Right.
You don't like, I was always like, well.
You don't know how.
bad it is until you run out.
Not even that,
because I will never run out.
Right.
Y'all?
I'll be sometimes hide them from me and shit, but...
Right.
I don't know what it would be like to not have coffee.
I just haven't had to go without it, like, ever.
Maybe I would be all fucked up, having to sleep all day.
I think I'd be all right.
I probably wouldn't have the energy to do podcasts all day, though.
I'll probably be nodding off in the pod
I don't really like coffee like that
No energy drinks
None of that shit
Like I like coffee but it gotta be like stupid sweet
Oh really?
Yeah like soap like super milky
And hella like fucking sweet
I used to be like that
You know like I can't stand it's like like just normal coffee
I put like a little tiny bit of cream in it now
Like the humming when I was inside
He'd be like you want some coffee I'll taste me what the fuck man
I'll make my coffee and be like that
Yeah, okay.
Like, all right.
But so you're not smoking weed the whole time you're locked up,
and then you get out, and you just immediately get back to it.
No, I'm still smoking weed on the inside.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I'm smoking wax.
Just a lot more difficult.
Wax is the move in there?
Just because it's, like, small and easy to transport.
I don't even know.
I was just buying shit, everything, bro.
Like, just buying the wax, every single thing.
Everything they got for sale?
Nah, just the wax.
All the wax.
But then how do you smoke it?
You got like a little torch setup, or?
nah it's like
fuck I say shit
you know what air it up
Apple hairs and shit
the apple you know the bottom of the apple
got some hairs on that motherfucker
uh huh you know
I try a T but that shit's nasty
so I just do the bottom of the apples
oh the the apple bomb type move
holy shit okay
yeah I haven't had to do that in a while
I should have me like
bro that's when I really realized like
damn nigga your chito rana's wrong
you can't be smoking wax out of an apple
in prison
no it's rolling
joints, brother. Like, I was doing joints off that
shit. Okay. I'll be building like
15, 20 apples, just to roll one joint.
You know,
I'll be smoking and shit. Then, like, I'll be
in my bunk and be like, just realizing like, damn,
bro, like, you're in jail, bro.
I think I misunderstood before. I thought you were talking about
smoking out of the apple.
Nah, like, you just
and then I was... You scrape it with a pancat.
You feel me? You roll that shit up.
Oh, okay.
Spoo back.
Wow, that's getting sure.
Where are you at?
The Swifty Blue Saga.
You guys on good terms or it's not happening?
Not worth talking.
You know, like, good luck to him.
You know, like, I'm on a different shit right now.
Mm-hmm.
I listen to an interview clip of him talking about, too,
and it felt like he was, like, showing you your respect and everything.
Yeah, I asked too, though.
You feel me?
Like, you know, like, yeah.
Definitely.
So were you locked up when Swade Dead?
Yeah.
What was that like for you?
That was crazy.
Because I was in prison, too, and she was like, I was chilling.
Were you locked in with him from early on in his career, or how did you first start talking about?
I met his dog father, Polo.
I met that for a fourth session.
You know, like, I met that for a yard and shit.
And we just always talk about, like, yeah, we're going to do music together and shit, you know?
And then when I got shipped out to a different prison,
Bro hit me up, you know, swayed me up.
Like, damn, you're about to touch down?
When that happened, I was like, damn, I didn't believe it, bro.
I was just like, damn.
Just that he went out like that?
Just that he died, bro, like, life is too short.
Yeah.
You know?
You got to try to do what you got to try to make this shit count.
You know, like, this is my last chance.
You feel me?
I gotta make this one count.
You feel me?
Like, that's why I ain't trying to fuck with the drugs, heavy.
You know, like, I ain't trying to fucking die off that shit.
You just want your ritual of, like, what you're doing in an average day
to not be the kind of shit that could get you caught up, you know?
You gotta just, like, find a way to be able to go about your life
and be happy without having to take the risk of getting pulled over
and they find whatever or getting, you know, whatever, whatever scenarios happen.
Just anything, bro, even getting pulled over, bro, like, like,
Fuck, man.
That shit could give me locked up, bro.
Right.
Any little thing, bro, like, could give me fucking put back in jail.
I'm tired of that shit.
You got to, like, put yourself on house arrest.
Yeah.
Just be like, I'm going to basically try to live like this.
I do for it.
And, like, you got a lot of shit to do?
You only want to go nowhere.
You know, I got a fat-ass TV, huh?
When I first came home, I bought a fat-ass TV, bro.
Fuck, I bought a computer.
I bought a hell of shit, bro.
my first day out.
I went crazy.
You know, like,
how many TVs my house got, bro?
If people want to hang out with you, they can come to you?
Nah, what I mean?
Like, my friends?
Like, my friends, they could come to me.
Yeah, they could, for sure.
Like, say welcome, junior welcome, slash welcome.
You know, solace welcome.
My team is welcome, you know?
But, like, if people are inviting you to parties and shit like that,
is that not really tempting?
I'm not going no more.
Like, like I said, like I said.
Right.
I have my fun.
I got like I got three kids, bro.
Like, you feel me?
Like, they need me.
You know?
Like, fuck that.
I got like five kids right now, bro,
because I got to take care of my little kids too.
You feel me?
Like, like, baby Vanessa, you know what I'm saying?
Like, Lala, like, I got to take care of my little girls.
You know, I got to take care of Yeya, yeah, yeah.
I take care of Niddy.
Got to take care of Coco.
Like, you feel me?
Like, that.
need me like the hummies don't need me you know being a dad also like changed how you view the
world and what you should be doing with your time like I told you like when I thought I was she was
never going to leave and take the kids all everything happened like damn for every single fear that
I had came to life you know like fuck so it's like now I love this I lost this I lost that
now I know how to deal with her ill could you ever be back with her again or
Is that over?
No, that's done daughter with, like, who, you know, like,
there were your point where, like, yeah?
Like, the shit that I got now, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said, my girl now, she appreciates everything I do for her.
You know?
Even the little call that I, even those little calls from prison.
You know, like, they would make her date type shit.
A letter.
You know?
My girl was the only one biting me answering my calls.
that's that's probably the problem like we all kind of romanticize the idea of like being with the girl that knew you from before you were popping but a lot of times what happens I feel like is that that girl is so used to shit that from your perspective you're like look at how nice where we're living at is look how much money we got look how good our lifestyle is but like she's been with you the whole time so she don't really see it that way right I take this shit out when you're with me when you're mine I you feel me like
You have everything.
I'm talking about
If I got diamonds, you got diamonds.
If I got a fly whip, you're going to have a fly whip.
You know, if I got this big ass house, you're going to live in it with me.
Why?
Because you appreciate me.
You appreciate my worth that thing.
You know?
You're happy that I'm home.
You never said, oh, I wish you would go back to jail.
You're going to go back to jail.
Nah.
You said, we're going to do this right this time.
Yeah.
You know?
When I got fucked up again and shit,
it's like, nah,
get your shit together.
And I got my shit together.
That's what the fuck I need, man.
And my bitch can't, like,
tell me, like, hey, you know what?
Like,
you can't do this, you can't do that.
You know?
That's not what you're looking for
in a relationship.
It's not even that.
Sometimes I need the discipline too, though, you feel me?
Right.
You got, like, an Android, huh?
Nah, no, no.
I got a phone.
It's just, this ain't my phone.
Oh, okay.
Having an Android is like the most, like,
renegated shit you can do.
In prison, all you want is an Android.
Because everybody's banging blue,
and you just out here green as fuck.
What do you mean?
In the text?
Nah, I'd rather do.
I'd rather do blue, I mean.
I like iPhone.
I'm team iPhone.
Okay.
You know?
Me too.
I mean, they rigged the fucking deck
because it's so much, like, easier
to, like, send images and everything is so much easier
when both people have an iPhone.
that they make it really unfair on anybody who wants to happen.
Yeah, I just don't want to turn my phone on right now.
It's just like, it's like, bro, when I have my phone on, my shit, it's always ringing.
Right now that it's off, I just been chilling.
I just been like, like, bro, I haven't lived like this, you feel me?
Like, I'm just like, if I want to be fucking lazy for I'm just like,
I'm just like, I'm a motherfucking bad if I want.
I don't, I can get my fucking dicks if I want, you know?
Right.
You got money and you ain't got to do shit.
That's pretty much the American dream, right?
At all.
Only fucking, like, thing I hate is going to.
going downstairs from my fucking drink bro I'm like fuck we gotta bring a water I
don't even want to drink the sink water no water's like fuck right you know but so
okay you're you're you're you have music on deck or are you gonna record new music
and drop it okay and are you just like are you alone man at this point or are they're
like are you trying to like bring some other artists with you do you have any like
Younger, just your team, man.
And my team.
But your focus is on you.
You're not trying to, like, find artists to sign and shit like that.
You just focused on being great.
He's already got my artists.
Already got all my artists right now.
Okay.
The same ones that you seen before, the same ones I got right now.
Right.
You know, KB.
Shout to my little brother.
You feel me?
My little spade niggas, like, that's what I got with me.
You got, y'all need to listen to him, too, though, like little KVee.
They didn't motherfucker a whart.
Yeah.
You feel me?
A little n' got the bars.
You got everything.
You feel me?
Walk ups and chase downs.
We do them all, nigga.
Like, come on.
Like, brother, I started a little nigga talking like that, brother.
Big homie, big little nigga, but I stepped along your big homie.
Like, come on, this nigga, I caught with it.
You feel me?
That's the formula.
They love to hear.
What that thing is saying?
And you know, I'm straight off the rip.
It was me, him, and bro.
You can't hop in his whip if you ain't got no blick.
I was like, oh.
Little nigga, a whore.
Hey, he's saucy, too, bro.
Yeah.
Like, I learned how to dress because of him.
You feel me?
Like, bro, I'm a big man.
I'm fucking big again.
That's what I'm happy about.
You like being a little bigger?
Yeah.
Okay.
You feel me?
Because it's like, I still work out with your shit.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm fucking.
A nigga with the Navy Seals and shit, you know what I'm saying?
But, like, I like to eat, bro.
I like just laying bed.
It's like, fuck, you know?
I never met somebody so excited about relaxing.
Yeah.
That's just kind of where you're at.
I like how real you're being about it.
Yeah, it's like, bro.
I'm in satchie slippers.
nigga, you know, Uncle
Arrow on her. I'm just
chilling. All of that's like
okay like that. Next time you
come back, you should bring all your artists so we could
have a little panel. Whenever you want.
With all the young hairs. Whenever you
want. Let's do that. You feel me? All my
little niggas, steppers, too. You feel me?
Free doughboy, free dog boy. Free my nephew's
dog boy and slick. You feel me? For my little
brother, demon. You know what I mean? Free my team.
Definitely.
So you're about to go crazy. You're about to start
dropping. And take the streets over
again? Yeah, but like, like, like, like, like, when I'm ready, though, you know.
Right, I'm on your own, on time.
When I'm on my own time.
Like, there's times when I just, like, wish I could just go to the studio and just kick it, you know?
But that's the only problem.
When I'm at the studio, I can't chill when I'm in the studio.
I'm always, that's that.
When I'm in the studio, I'm like, let's go.
I say I'm a chill.
You know, I say I'm a chill.
I just go in and shit.
There's a few times I took my girl and shit.
I'm just chilling.
I'm trying to watch a movie.
movie and shit, but then I just noticed
I got the attention span of it was grow up.
I'd be like, fuck out right away.
Yeah.
It's tough to watch a movie.
When your attention span is built on
TikTok and Twitter and shit.
Even in there, I wasn't watching TV, so
when I would come out on it, like, now
I'm just like, I'm forced to watch TV.
You feel I mean? Like, fuck it.
Bro, it's a big decision to sit there and watch
one thing for three hours.
There's some good shit, though.
When I could look at thousands
of TikToks in those three hours.
But it's like a real
commitment.
See, I don't even have that.
You don't even got the TikTok.
You probably lit on there if I had to guess.
They say, because even the gorgian there, they were like,
hey, I seen you on TikTok.
I was like, what the fuck?
Yeah.
The fans do it for you.
And then this time he was like,
some bitch-ass hood out right there.
He's like, hey, you look like the guy that ain't chito rannas.
I was like, yeah, motherfucker.
Bitch-ass.
That's brutal.
Are there any, like, black artists that you want to work with?
Or is that not something you necessarily think about?
yeah like like like like libo we were supposed to work
we were supposed to work the day that i got locked up lebo
EBK libo oh okay yeah that's
I'm over war you fuck with all that stock and shit
like yeah like like some of it yeah like like some of the shit is hard
nice it's like the EBK you know like they're hard
you know like who else is for
I was just telling you full like I'm mad that I don't even know a lot of rappers like
really yeah like I like I don't even know a lot of rappers like that
Really?
Yeah, like, there's no music to listen in there and shit.
Like, they be listening to that radio shit.
Oh, that Drake, you know what I have?
You know, like, damn, you're hard, though, too.
You know what?
You don't get to see what's going on in, like, a street level, yeah.
I don't know what's going on, you feel me, but, like,
I really, I wanted to work with, with, shit.
You feel me?
Hopefully something that, you know, when the time is right.
You feel me?
Who else?
Who, who popping right now, anyway?
Your team said you're on your own on this one.
Yeah, I'm looking at you like.
It's because, like, I don't know a lot of fools and shit.
You don't like to collab.
It's not really a thing.
Killer Woods.
But, dude, he's from Sack, though.
That's my boy, though.
I was in prison with him.
So, yeah, I won't collab with him.
T. Ruga.
You know, like the banked-up artist, like, they're, like,
and my boys, like, them stories, like, they're my niggas.
For sure.
I don't collab with him.
You know?
Definitely.
For show, CML, Prince Jada.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Have you actually been around Lavish?
Bro, I haven't even been around like my mama.
Right.
You see what a cool dude.
Like, I was, nigga, I was even around like that.
Bro, people always hype it up on TikTok and shit.
I got to see this all the time that when I interviewed Lavish,
I called him like, C-L-M-Lavish D.
I fucking said it wrong.
He didn't say anything.
It's like the first thing I say in the interview and he doesn't even say anything.
But, like, I see it as well.
Bitch, y'all ass, shit.
There's been a few things like that over the years,
Rob, you watch it and you're just cringing out of your skin.
Like, you fucking retard.
I mean, you see you shit about the two,
and I'd be like, why you say that?
You know?
Like, like, like a cool guy.
I wish I knew.
Like, I wish I could have, I would have just restarted.
Instead, I'm over here.
It's like I'm dissing them or some shit.
Wait.
Wait.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Hey, my bad spin, something.
Whatever.
All right.
So, the people out there, stay tuned in.
Subscribe to my man's channel, new music on the way soon.
But he's mostly just going to be relaxing.
Chilling in the crib, taking surprise five-hour naps.
Probably eight.
That's not a nap.
That's your sleep for the night.
Brother, I haven't even slept since last night.
I was just eating Chinese food and just fucking watching these motherfuckers play fucking FIFA and shit.
You don't play?
You don't play? You just watch?
Bro, I can't stand soccer.
Oh, really?
You know, like, I like football.
Like, fuck, bro.
like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I've been trying to play call of duty,
but that bitch-ass game been pissing me off lately, bro.
We can't play two-player, nigga, like, I can't smoke my homey real quick.
You know what I'm saying?
You can't play two player?
Nah.
So I'm like, man, fuck this game.
Bro, huh, I'll be like, I'd be like for like two minutes.
I'm sure, like, like, like two dudes and walk away real quick.
Right.
And I'm gone for hours.
I'm, but I'm in the house.
I'm just gone for hours.
You know, like, no way.
I'm just chilling.
Right.
And then I'll be walking back downstairs
And I'm like, oh well, why they're changing the game and shit
You know what I'm like
How many blunts get smoked in a day?
Oh shit
It's my blunt roller too
You have a full-time blunt roller
As fuck
I'm with dad homies
That means down as fuck
No, that means word
Oh word
Word to my mother
Okay
I'm still learning
Yeah
Where are you born
New Hampshire
That damn is fucking far from here too
I'm still trying to
and get tapped in with the Raza.
Yeah.
That's all I said.
The Raza?
On the East Coast, yeah.
I grew up around all Puerto Rico.
I didn't say,
Chittoranos, huh?
Chito Ranas.
Yeah, hell of white.
I shouldn't.
No, I should say,
I just say,
Chita Rannis.
It's even whiter.
Yeah, I know.
But, like, I got to be.
That's like what my neighbor's going to say, huh?
I was thinking about getting an Edgar.
What do you think?
Maybe I should skip the Edgar
and go to whatever the fuck you're doing
with the crazy.
This is a game-related.
this game really?
Yeah, you probably get shot at.
Oh, shit.
I'm not going to sack.
Diggi, I'm not going to sack.
You know, what that reminds me of is, like, the dudes in Houston,
they have a thing called the shag.
Like, black dudes will have, like, it's like a,
Oh, that shit, too.
Back here.
But then all the EBK dudes be doing it and shit, too.
Yeah.
Stockton adopted.
Me, the only reason I have is because, like,
my homie spark the rest of peace, he had it.
You know, so all my little homies, too.
All my little young ones got it.
You feel.
Musky.
You feel me, demon, my little brother, demon got it, too.
I got this for him, too.
Plus, it's like, what, going on five years?
Were you ever a tagger?
Nah, hell no.
That's why I'd be surprising me, bro.
Not all those people.
So many people, when you watch, like, gangster interviews,
they start out as a tagger.
Two times only, only, like, yeah, two times, right?
I spray painting some shit.
I was drunk as fuck one time with Halisco.
You feel me?
With my brother, rest of peace.
I was drunk as fuck.
We didn't the hood and shit.
shit with the homie listo.
We hop out the whip.
We're at the fucking, uh, uh, okay.
You know that, that jack in the box that's across the street from Carl's Jr?
Right there?
I on Arden.
So, we literally hop out the whip.
Brother has a fucking spray can.
Put Halis going to hell of big on the wall.
I just put it for all.
HPS.
And I leave.
You know what I like?
Sunlight.
It's not for you, though.
Second time I did it.
When I came home, found some fucking.
and go spray paint.
You know what I'm in my garage
tagging the hood and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't know if you know
backyard tagging this shit
and then yeah.
I got in trouble for that.
Oh, you got in trouble for it
so that stopped you.
Yeah.
Bro, why did you decide to go full mustache tat on them?
That shit is like the hardest
location, I feel like.
Just go for the mustache, man.
Because he's got to stop asking me
where I'm from, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I figured you'd answer it for him?
Yeah, like,
You feel me?
Like, I was in there,
and I was like,
I'm off a little bit.
You got that done in there?
Yeah,
I was picked.
Oh, shit.
That shit hurt.
That shit's hard.
I love it.
Plus,
I couldn't grow a mustache either like that,
so I had to,
you know?
So now would you feel kind of guilty
if you got a mustache,
like you're covering it up on purpose?
I know.
I still can't grow one.
Oh,
you can't grow it.
Well,
this shit,
they should hear.
They should here for life.
Shit.
My mom hasn't seen me like that.
Well,
when you're like 50,
you might be able to grow.
our mustache.
They said Osama, like, he did it.
He was like, he, he, okay, looks, I read a lot of books on that
motherfucker. You feel me? Really? What?
My dad. Don't get any ideas. Hold on, no.
Don't hijack any planes. I don't do that.
I don't even like, I don't fly planes. I don't, I don't,
never flying planes. You don't like that?
Fuck no. What do you get booked tomorrow in New York City?
Not hopping on that plane? I'm not hopping in shit.
Really? What? I'm driving.
That's a fucking drive. I got a hellcat.
I got a hellcat. I got me fucked up.
It was like, we put a miles on that.
It's like a week straight.
Sad, what?
Fuck it, good times.
Baby gonna be mad.
Yeah.
What?
I'm on the freeway with it.
But in terms of not getting pulled over,
flying is a way better idea.
Okay, but it's a red eye.
It's a faster than a cop car.
Yeah.
Nah, not just been doing this.
Nah, I'm on my ankle.
I can't do this shit.
I just tell them, like, look to my location.
I'm going to be there and there.
Right.
And I'm driving safety like fucking driving.
You feel me?
Yeah.
The Hellcat's probably not the best car.
They should rent like an Acura
From basic shit
Man, I'm just wanting the hell can't
What?
Like, ain't nobody got this like that, you know?
Right
And my shit was copped out the showroom type of shit
Oh, where?
Yeah
Chita Ranas
Oh man
Let's go
I appreciate you, man
And I'm excited for the new music to come out
Uh huh
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