No Jumper - Christopher Lovejoy on Beef with Crip Mac & China Mac, Issues with Big U, X4 Drama & More

Episode Date: January 23, 2024

Christopher Lovejoy aka 600, talks about his early days in the streets, being put on, pursuing boxing, the Don King situation, Big U, and more. -- 0:00 - Intro 1:51 - 600 says he was a good kid growing up, he got good grades and went to college at 3-4 universities, played football and wanted to go to the NFL and didn't really tap into the streets until he made it out of high school 3:29 - Says he got down with the Rolling 60s in 2003-2004 6:16 - In 2015 he was done with the street life after forfeiting half a million to law enforcement through seizures and other things 8:21 - 600 went to Mexico for 12 fights he had to pay for, he won 12 fights in a row 9:50 - Don King tried to sign him for a $1000, 600 says he had to talk to him outside and they ended up getting him signed for $10,000, Says Don King promised him a bunch of fights and failed to get him any, 600 went back to Mexico and took 7 more fights and became 19-0 10:45 - After going 19-0 he started making noise in the boxing world because he was also going to peoples gyms and talking sh** telling them he'd knock them out, says he became ranked #8 in the world by the WBA 11:40 - After 3yrs of not getting a fight from Don King, 600 called out Dave Allen and got a $50,000 fight in London, the people in London got hyped for the fight and Don King sent a cease and desist to promoter Eddie Hearn saying he want allowed to do business with Chris Lovejoy without him 14:26 - 600 was furious when Don King stopped his fight and wanted to fight him even though he's probably 70 yrs old, 600 tried to get out the contract with Don King by filing for Bankruptcy but Don King stopped the bankruptcy process 15:20 - Don King sent the Bankruptcy people pictures of 600 in a Phantom and holding wads of money to try to prove 600 was lying about being bankrupt and just wanted out of his contract 15:52 - 600 linked with Wack100 and Wack100 pressed Don Kings team and got him out the contact immediately 16:38 - He got his first real pay day in 2021 for $250k to fight in Germany and it all went to him 19:38 - 600 ended up sparring with Tyson Fury when he got a call that Fury was doing a camp in Vegas and needed heavyweights to spar with, he got payed $500 a day 22:40 - 600 says he was going to train C Mac for his fight with Blueface but C Mac ended up going to jail 23:56 - 600 says C Mac would snap on him out of nowhere and 600 would have to call around to Lupe and others to see what’s going on, says even when C Mac disses him now, he doesn’t respond 26:19 - 600 says they were still cool after C Mac got out, says C Mac hasn’t called him since being locked up recently 30:29 - 600 says maybe China Mac was just exaggerating by saying he would “Leave America” if Crip Mac got 15 yrs 31:09 - If 600 sees China Mac he’s not going to press the issue he’s just going to say what’s up and see what he’s on, says 90% of the stuff he does online is for entertainment 34:55 - 600 denies C Mac’s allegations that he scammed him out of $2000 and was scamming fans 36:09 - 600 said he doesn’t think China Mac is really banned from LA, says he doesn’t think anyone can ban anyone in 2024 39:12 - Says he knew about X4 before he went to the pen the first time because he heard a song dissing everybody and was talented, Wack have 600 a position at Cash Money West and said he had to get some artist 40:35 - 600 got on the phone with X4 and told him he wanted to sign him and told him about Cash Money West, etc 42:00 - 600 arranged a meeting with X4, Desean Jackson and Lil pee wee, they called Birdman and recorded songs that night and everything was up, X4 ended up not signing but was still cool with 600 44:32 - 600 says he pulled up to the hood where the guys were supposed to be and Big U was the only one who pulled up, Big U said “what’s up let’s go” because he thought 600 wanted to fight him, 600 told him he pulled up for whoever was on the phone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcasts on the world. Today, I'm having a seat with my friend. 600. So what it. AKA Christopher Lovejoy, and he's brought along with him, his new artist coming up out the streets of LA,

YCA, 80 bands. Hey, hey, that's what up, Adam? How's everybody doing today? chilling, man, I'm cool. I can already tell, yeah, okay. So if you're going to be leaning back, this is good, but I mean, up to you. Yeah, okay.

600, how are you living? Man, I'm cool. I just got back from Miami. My skin probably a little red from the 10. You are a little red, yes. But, you know, I enjoy myself. I haven't been to Miami in like eight, nine months. I usually go about two or three times a year.

I'm just cooling, though, you know? Change the scenery. I saw you connect with Shaq out there. Yeah, you know what's crazy, man. He just walked right up to me. I'm all right got to get pictures, too. They're going to think we know each other. Where did you see him?

Prime 112, South Beach. Steakhouse. Nice little steakhouse. The home of the, what was that, Freddie Gibbs, Jim Jones, the war. Yeah? They had a huge brawl there. Miami get turned up.

Yeah. I mean, they get turned up out there. That's a fact. So, okay, tell me a little bit about 600, the early days. Give me the short version just for the people who don't know where you're coming from. Don't go to be that short, but where is 600 coming from? I was a good kid, man. You know what I'm saying?

I actually really had good grades. I went to college. I played football. I was trying to go to NFL. I went to about three or four years. universities. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because I was trying to find my spot. I was trying to make it. You know what was your life like before that, though, coming out? You came up in L.A.? Yeah, South Central L.A. Born and Rays. Okay. And so were you tapped in with the streets from

early age? Or what was your relationship to all that? I was just around it. I wasn't really into. Like I said, I was really a good kid, man. You know what I'm saying? I really didn't really tap into that stuff. And so I really like was getting out of high school, seeing how stuff is. I was trying to stay away from that. You know what I'm saying? Because my whole family was in it. You know, my parents down here no more, but they were on Jordan stuff. So I was really trying to not go into that lifestyle. I was really trying to make it out the hood.

I wasn't trying to be what I'm at right now. I was really trying to be like square, you know what I'm saying? But it kind of just kind of took over. So what was it, though? Like what made you feel like you wanted to like tap in with that, especially if you managed to avoid it through most of your teens? Well, just reality. You know what I'm saying?

Football wasn't really going right. My only friends I knew was his friends from the streets. Why wasn't football going right? You're a specimen, right? You're a big-ass dude. I was puny back then. I graduated high school at 17 years old. I played my first college football game at 17.

Okay. These guys 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, fully developed. So not only I'm young, but I'm also underdeveloped. I'm like, I'm like 200 pounds. I'm the same height I am now, but 120 pounds skinnier. Imagine that. Okay. So it's like, I want to go into NFL, but I had the heart.

I really want to do it, though. Did you formally join the gang at some point? Yeah, two. thousand four thousand three okay who'd you choose you have a bunch of recruiters recruiters I mean that's just how I go I mean this I go I mean you basically be hanging around everybody be from it you know I'm sure your friends all your best friends be from it and like man you can't be hanging around you got you got to come to the there bro you got to catch your officials uh-huh that's just how many people are

involved in this put on four how long um this probably like a minute each. So four minutes total. You got to take them on one by one? Yeah, back to back and you're squabbling with them? So you could, you could have theoretically won, or is it a situation where they're not going to let you win? You're not supposed to win, right?

No, no, you can't win. You're not really, you really can't win, but if you look good, you be straight. Okay. If it's so bad, then, you know, you got to, you might have to come back again. But if I curl up into a ball? No, you got to come back

Come back? I mean, I feel like if I got to take my beating Then I got to figure out how to survive this I feel like curling up into a ball might be the move The defense position, huh We've all been there We're getting beat up by a bunch of guys And you gotta just kind of turtle up at a certain point, right?

You hit this move cover up the back of your head You're supposed to get, you know That's gonna keep you alive That's a good move Yeah, that one right there It ain't like a situation where you get in trouble Okay supposed to get like DP to something like that, you know what I'm saying?

Okay. And so then what becomes your life after that? And how long did you make it into the college football? I'm going to be real with you. I kind of like was smart with my situation. I wasn't like a person who was always hanging on the block putting in work every day since I was a little kid. I was doing something different. Like I said, I'm playing football.

I'm going out of town. I'm going to college. I'll come back and be in a BS, but I'm going next day. Even when I got done with that, I was like, you know, I guess I'm playing. Like I say, I'm not a criminal in and out of town making money. So even with that, I wasn't on the block everyday gang bang. I was always doing something else. Even when I got down the street life, I was boxing.

In out of town, in the gym, doing that stuff. So I was never just sitting in the head on the block waiting for bullets and handcuffs. So is there a period of time between football and boxing where you were just hanging out in the neighborhood? No, never. You were hustling, though. Always hustling. thing, yeah. Yeah, I was like I said, I actually left college in my junior year because I figured I

wouldn't go to the NFL to go back and make money. And make money. I never made money in my neighborhood. It was always somewhere else or another city or doing something different, you know what I'm saying? Okay. So like I said, I was never just sitting there, you know what I'm saying? Oh, God.

How did you get into the box and stuff? 2015, I was really done with the whole street life. I lost a lot of money. I probably gave forfeited half a million dollars. law enforcement through different seizures and different takes from me or whatever and I was just like man I'm gonna end up in jail or dead or do something real bad like I got to do something legit and I'm making my making nice sums of money and somebody ran off with a hundred thousand dollars cash you know what I'm saying and uh that's how it always goes with the streets right you just keep

getting your money up your money up and then something crazy happens and all of a sudden you're not back maybe not back at square one but you're close to square one so then I'm like that's it I can't do no more you know what I'm saying I packed it up I moved to Vegas when my family to Vegas I'm like I'm gonna be a boxer man I'm gonna go okay I don't ruin my time so I was trying to I was trying to figure out in boxing who do you talk to because boxing is not like in a fair where you go to college you go to draft you got to just kind of figure your way out I don't know nobody who was boxing I'm the one person who was boxing I said bro I need to be a boxer am I too old I'm 302 years

old it's not too old I'm like no you're head for weight so I'm like uh shit what the gym's at out here you know what I'm saying where the boxing gyms at I'm like man I want to be a Mayweather, man. They're in Vegas. I go to meet up with Roger Mayweather. Rest of peace to him. Floyd's father. His uncle.

Uncle. Roger. So he was going to be my trainer. But he was kind of like, you know, not all the way there. It was kind of ill a little bit. And I was just like, you know what? I need something that's going to really, really focus on me. Second choice, Floyd Mayweather senior. I reach out to him.

We go train. Same time. I said, bro, listen, I got a nice life for myself. I'm 32 years old, you know, am I told to be a boxing? You know what I got it? Let's go to gym. Let's check it out. But you ain't too old.

You get heavy. Let's go to their 40 in the late 40s, man. Oh, okay, cool. Workout. He said, man, you got, no damage. You know what I'm saying? All these dudes are boxing all their life, and they got a lot of damage through the years. I'm fresh.

No damage. No pain trauma, none of that. So I'm like, cool, let's do it. So he was my trainer. And that's how I started boxing. I got me a few fights. So at my age, no amateur fights, no experience. You know, you got to go get on a show somewhere.

just gets you a pro fight. Ain't no time to go through amateur background and all that in the Olympics. So the only place you can get on the show is outside America is Mexico. So I went to Mexico, 18, 12 times straight. And I'm 12 and up to a knockouts. How much are you getting paid fighting in Mexico? I'm not getting paid. I'm actually paying out of pocket.

Just to be able to get your record out of? Right. Okay. And out of pocket, I'm paying like anywhere from when I first started, my first fire probably paid $600 plus expenses, which came out to about $1,200, $200. Were you fighting dudes that had no chance against you? That just seems like When I'm hearing like you're paying

In order to make the record look good Isn't this, there's a stereotype about this Like where you're basically like a tin can hunter Is that the terminology? Tomato can't tank, taxi can drive They got all these names for them. But the fact is, though, these guys really come to fight. They're just selected, hand selected by me

and my people to make sure I have the ultimate advantage Because I'm paying out of pocket So I have to win. I can't pay out of pocket against someone with an 0-20 record and have a challenge and lose. So these are guys who are happy to take the money and their record. Their records already shot. Got a ring with me.

They go do what they got to do. So I did that for like two years straight. I got to like 12, 13 and 0. But the promoters ain't really messing with me. The big dogs ain't really messing with them all of. They ain't really. I'm like, man, these dudes ain't really playing with. So I keep up like 13-0.

Don King fly to L.A. He called my big homie. Shout out of a big shunning way. Hey, man. D.K. out here, man, they're Beverly Hills, the hotel, man. He wanted to sign you. I'm like, what up? Come on. What are we talking about? Mm-hmm. You know, he tried to offer me $1,000 a sign.

I said, bro, let me how does y'all side, man? I ain't about to do no $1,000 on me, you know what I'm saying? So we ended up getting him for 10. I gave him Mackie's a little cut, you feel me? And we locked in, you know what I'm saying? With the 10, with the 8, I always already had some money. I went to go buy me a vans. Somebody had seen my guilt from him.

You know, we clowning. I'm with Don King. I'm 13, you know, 13 knockouts. he don't give me no fights. He promised me all these fights. He don't give me no fights. So this is like 2018. I'm two years in the game already.

He's going to give me no fights. I'll go back to Mexico. I said, this dude, playing, bro. I'll go by Mexico. I get like seven more fights. Now, I'm 19-0-19 knockouts. Now, by this time, I don't have made a lot of noise in the boxing. Kind of how you know me now, just making noise.

I did this in the boxing jam. Talking shit going viral. Going to people with gym, call him out. What's up? You're a buster. I beat you up. I'm 19 on 19 knockouts. You ain't nobody.

Where you from? What's up? What's happening? Bro. Push them and all that. They're like, oh, he's making no. Who's the dude for L.A.? I'm all over the country.

I'm in Jamaica, Mexico, Germany, London, Canada. I'm all over. I'm just flying around because I still got some money from the streets.

I'm just having a fun. And I'm ranked in the world now. I'm number eight in the world, WBA. How they rank you, though, like at what? Through Don King. You know,

when I'm with him and I'm buzzing, because they want to, They want to call you a bluff. You know, so they want to, it's all the sanctioning bodies make money off and you're fighting for their belts. Damn. So if they rank me, I got to fight somebody for their belt or rank in the position. It's just my position.

So, mind you, I ain't talked, Don King, he and gave me no fights, whatever. I'm calling people while. How usually, though, I'm in Miami, this 2020. He still ain't gave me a fight. What you mean? Use that by now. You know what I'm saying? Three years, right?

A dude got a fight. I called out before. responded from big promoter Eddie Hearn, Matron, Matron boxing in London. They got a fight coming up next week. On Halloween weekend, it's like October or 20th or something. I'm in Miami, chilling, doing my streetstreet. Right. And I called him out. I'm like, what up, man? I'm 19-0-19-old. What's up?

What's happening? You need to thought it was happening? I fly out there right now. And wherever I go, I bring my passport, my gym, my belts, my mouthpiece, because that's how boxing is. When you're independent like that, they can call you wherever. Anyway, they can give any fight. I'm like, oh, what's on? 50 bands? Come on, let's do it. You know what I'm saying?

I'm like, man, listen, it's up. Listen, I'm talking about, listen. I'm talking when I say it's up, it's up. Mind you, I never had no real promotion. I never had no real followers. When they start posting me in London, I'm talking stuff, how I've been talking for the last couple years, people in the UK going back and forth from them, they're loving it.

Oh, it's a big fight. I called Don Cass, hey, listen, I got the fight, bro. No, he called me. I said, yeah, boy, it's 50 bands. I'll do, too. I give you an issue. He's like, yeah, yeah, there ain't enough money. They're trying to work your drinking.

I'm like he's like yeah when you're just going to go out there let me talk to a promoter I said oh man man I don't want you messing that up bro because I you know over one time a few fights then got canceled because these dudes got scared and pulled out I said I don't need to mess this up bro I got this I got you I slide out there I'm in London it's like 20 people at my hotel love joy t-shirts and never met I'm like who's cracking I'm knocking this fool out my mental's so up I'm like I'm knocking this fool out this is my debut real fight mind you I'm fighting all little smell of cans I'm knocking this fool out I'm ready Man, like three days of promotion there for the fight.

Don King sent a cease and desist letter to Eddie Hearn in London. It's like three in the morning, Eddie Hearn. Saying that's my client. Y'all are not allowed to do business without me being involved. Bro, he hit me with that. I'm like, oh, man. I said, bro, don't worry about it. I'm going to go home and take it.

And I'm mad now. I said, I'm going to go take care of it. Don't worry. He said, no, no, no, no, we're trying to, we were figuring out. We were going to figure out. You made a lot of noise here. You know what I'm saying? These people really want to see you fight.

You actually love to. people don't you are. I'm like, what you do? What y'all got to do? So now I'm kind of stressed out. Like, man, is this fight going to happen? You know, we're going to do a conference call one tomorrow. We're going to figure out. We're going to off him this. We're going to off him this. Make sure he got this. Just to get you the fight. You're already here. Is you approved for the fight? Let's do it. Man, they didn't come to agreement. So now I'm out there. I got to flyback with no money. Embarrassing. It's all over the news. Don King stopped the fighter from fighting on the big old

show. It was the Alexander Yusick versus Chazzoa. Big car, big old car, a big old car at O2 Arena, I'm furious. I slide back. I'm on this dude bumper. I said, hey, listen, where you have, me in Miami, bro, so. They're like, nah, nah, let's just do it the legit way. We'll do it. I'm like, oh, man, I'm about it.

I don't care about no boxing. Boxing's over with. So you want to f*** him up, even though he's like 80 years old. Yeah, I'm on him. He said, even though he's 80. There's got to be people around him. He's not 80? Where are you, like 60?

He got to be about 70, though. Because Mike, like 80, right? Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. So, so, so, you know, I'm going through the BS. I got to go file bankruptcy, because that's the only way we got the contract. I still got like another year of my contract. And he stops my bankruptcy, so I don't have bankruptcy on my record.

92. Yeah. So he was 88 when this happened. Okay. Damn. No, he was 89 when this happened. So anyway, he stopped my bankruptcy. So, you know what I put it on thick.

My homie got a Rojoice Phantom. We got big wads of money We're traveling. He's sending the bankruptcy people Pitches of me and the phantom. He's lying You know, he got money. He just don't want to Oblig to his contract. Don't vote. So he got lawyers to do all this shit. I'm not paying my lower no more money. I said, bro, I'm not paying you no more money to file a bankruptcy.

It means I'm broke. I don't make no sense. I'm not doing that. So he won. I said, cool. We're going to let this muffly expire. Whole other year, got to go by. He still ain't trying to get me out. This was me and Wack link up. Somehow Wack knew the dude who'd be with Don King every day.

Wack out of Don King sex tape. He said I whack 100. He got something on him. Listen, that's a kid pressed the fuck out them. You said Wack pressed Don King and his team? Wack pressed whoever with Don King and said, let him out that contract, give me a release immediately.

Really? And that worked? That was only right out of contract. Because this contract is so tricky. It, like, extends it. itself. It's some whole bunch of weird. But I wasn't tripping. I don't know the boxing business. I want that money. I'm 13-0, 14-0. No other promos messing with me. I'm like, man, let's get on. I don't get that contract. Let's go.

Worsts is in my life. Getting out of the contract? Or signing it? So I finally got out of it. Okay. So I finally got out the contract. 20-21, I got my first real payday. Two hundred and fifty thousand. All to me. No promoter, no manager, no nothing. I fought in Germany. It was a big fight. It was cool. That was my first payday. Getting Wack 100 to get you out of the contract though, does Wack 100 now like own your soul? And you're like, well, that's my brother for life. Okay. But you have to say that because you got your other contract? I'm just not sure. What do you, what do you owe him for doing? I'm going to be real with you. I'm going to be real with you. That's just how you operate. You don't

me nothing. You just answer the phone when I call. Okay. That's how it is right now. If I said if he calls you and tells you, I need you to go if I can shoot this guy in the head. He ain't going to come to that. Oh, okay. He ain't come to that. Wack asked me to do stuff like that once in Yeah? Yeah. He's probably testing. You're like, Adam, I need you to go catch a body in Pekoyama for me. Thank you.

Hangs up. Well, he probably tested. Just kidding. That's never happened. But no, that's how we really got tight in that relationship. I've been in a whack, though, for like 10 years before that, though. Okay. So I got my, I finally got to recoup my money I've been putting in all these fights, promoting, training, you know what I'm saying?

All these mess school fights, I finally got some money back. So I'm like, okay, cool. I need, like, another hit, you know what I'm saying? So I got a few months. my fights and I might be fighting for nut check for so okay so you're still you're still active in this box and I'm still active yeah I'm 21-in-one what you mean 20 knockouts but it when was your last fight uh March last year how old do you right now 40 just turned 40 you feel like you're in your prime yeah yeah you 40 I mean hey yeah you're a heavy way boxer you can fight well into your

40s yeah how you feel like like do you feel like the sky's the limit or is like where's the ceiling for your potential. For me, for me, I'm be real with you. I'm gonna give it a run. I'm gonna go, wanna lead this interview. I'm gonna follow Miami. I'm gonna go back out there, stay for 30, 60 days, trying to get the best tip,

best shape of my boxing career, and give it a run, give it a championship run. I'm 21 and one I got the record. The heavy weights are crazy. I just got done watching this reality show about Tyson Fury. Yeah. And that is a gigantic man right there.

That's a heavy weight. He's a monster. I know he's been super dominant, but I mean, the heavyweight ranks are Terrifying, right? Because you just have all the biggest dudes on earth. There's nothing bigger than that. If you want to fight in this shit,

you gotta get down to a certain weight, right? What is it, 260? No, anything over 200 is a heavyweight. But you could be 300 pounds? Yeah, I could. I'm 3 30. Oh, okay, I thought you had to get down. In the UFC, I think you have to get to 260.

Okay, they probably got some top of you. Something like that, okay. They probably got a limit. But it's no limit. Heavyways no limit. Jesus Christ. But I'm spartartagnet Free. Shotatting Fear, he really, really gave me my first in there

with a real, real championship level, spawn. Really? Yeah. that was did you see like how great one of the best fighters in the world is in that moment it kind of like opened your eyes a little bit of like oh this is how badass these guys are both it was like this is how bad they are and it was oh i can do this i can kind of be i could hang okay yeah damn i don't know how much time we got but basically the story how we end up sparring um my guy

frank stay top rank my top rank boxing in Vegas he called me say hey man tides fears out here he's he's in camp he needs some heavyweighs we paid five an hour's day i said absolutely I'm out here trying to get out of the street life, you know what I'm saying, doing Uber Eats and Amazon. So I said, I ain't been training, but I got to go out there to get this work with Tyson's Fury. So he said come whatever day it was Wednesday, right? Okay. So Tuesday, mind you, I'm training the Mayweather Gym.

Tyson's already out there. So he goes over to the Mayweather Gym, that's where everyone's at. Where your heavyweights at, man? What are your heavyweights? None of us are there. So my guys called me from the gym. They say, hey, man, where you have, man? We got some work for you.

I said, man, I'll be out there tomorrow, bro. I'm gonna go to spot Tyson Fury. They're like, who? I said, Tyson Fury. He's standing right next to him. Man, he's right here, man. I said, I'll be out there tomorrow, bro. Cool.

So, I drive out there. I said, oh, it's on. Did you ever see the video online? Of what? Me and Tyson Fury? That's my first met him. So I go to his gym. I'm like, what's up?

I'm out here. You know what I'm still talking shit, hot dog at the video. I'm on live. We outside the gym where you at. He ain't showing up. I'm about to put tips on him. I'm just bluffing.

I'm out of shape like a motherfucker. So I go in the gym And he's like, man, come back tomorrow 10 o'clock I'm like, man, man, ain't him to drive where y'all? You're all playing, man, so I go to Mayweather gym. It just so happened. A big old white boy, 6-9 heavyweight

is in the gym. I never seen before. I said, this is good work. Practice on Fury because he's about 6-9. I go like 8, 9 rounds. I'm not even in shit. I said, damn. I'm in shape like a motherfucker. I'm fucking tight and fire you out tomorrow.

I'm in super, super, super shape. I didn't even working out. I go to gym. I was gassed out next day. I did like two rounds. But it was like six heavyweights. You know, that's how I go. You do two with him, two with him, two, keep everyone fresh to wear down the fighter because

you're in his camp and you want to wear him down to get him ready for the fight. Got it. But that's how we made me. He was cool. We were going to go ever since. So now you're just kind of waiting to see what the next move might be. Right now, yeah, I'm just kind of waiting. I ain't really pressing, calling people out.

You know, I got some artists. I got this stuff going up kind of chilling, you know, but I'll do a little work out here and there, just in case they call me. So, okay, yeah, you got on a lot of people's radars who weren't for me. familiar with the boxing shit. Yeah. Because of your affiliation with Krip Mack. Was that the first artist that you managed,

or who did you fuck with before that? That was the first artist I managed. Okay. And he was the first person that really, really took me viral with my face, this whole internet world. Being outside, people recognize me. I mean, he's just a viral preacher. This is a fact.

Me, yeah. Free that nigga, Kribman. Yeah, free to go. So yeah, that was the first one. You know, and that was my first mention. you. He had an interview. I know who he was, but I wouldn't really answer what he was on. I was trying to get out that life. And when I heard he had that fight with Blueface, that's when I reached out to people like, hey, man, you know, Carl Cribman, I need to talk to him. If anyone going to train him, he never buys for it. He's a heavyweight. He needs to train him. I'll train with him. I could be in the ring with him. I can teach him right. I need to be with him.

But then why did that fight get fucked up from your perspective? He went to jail. Oh, that was because of the jail thing. Yeah. Because Wack has his version of it. in which they were going to fight, and then the business got fucked up. I forget exactly what he said, but somebody was trying to... Well, that was before I really got really involved. Oh, okay.

But he still went to jail anyway. So that's what I got involved. So he actually signed a contract with somebody I know. The big man? He always told me. They're always talking about this phantom in the sky guy who owns his whole career. A mystery guy in the clouds.

You know what I'm saying? And they called me like, Hey, man, we signed Crypt Mac, you know, want you to manage him, you know what I'm saying, move around with him and, you know, try it out. I'm like, yeah, let's do it. I ain't got nothing else do. Boxing slow. That's how we met, and we was cool. And from the beginning, were you experiencing the, you know, the ups and downs of Crypt Mac's personality?

Absolutely. Notariously, everybody who's tried to manage him has basically gone through hell one way or another. And, like, various degrees. I'm kind of glad that I never really tried to be like the guy. managing him because I feel like that probably would have had a very bad impact on our relationship long term I always figured it was better for us to just do individual pieces of content had a lot of options now you know he had snap on me I'm calling Louper like hey man what's so quick man what he's talking about I'm calling his homies you know hey bro what what

he's talking about you're like man you ain't used to that's how he be I'm like okay so I got used to it so that's why even when he disses me now I don't respond to I don't think serious because like a lot of the people who have kind of managed him I feel like maybe it went a certain way because he wasn't really like scared of them or intimidated by them or whatever. And I felt like with you, maybe it would have like a different flavor just because you're this big-ass dude who's really from the streets, I guess. And you, you know, realistically could probably beat his ass if it came down to it. Well, he needs that. I mean, and that's what I said, you know, with the people that he'd been dealing with over the last few years,

he needs that big brother and father mentality to tell him what we're going to do and what we're not going to do. Right. You know, when I was with, I made sure that there's no guns. We're not getting no trouble and certain things we're just not going to do. You know, in other situations, he's been in a situation where he does what he wants to do. Right. And that's, you know, where he's at right now, basically, when he knew what he wanted to do. Right.

When he was with me, we weren't getting those problems. You're not bringing no guns. We're not doing that stuff. But, I mean, Krip Mack without a gun is... Well, I got a gun. I got a rest of the firearm. Really? Damn, you got a big-ass brick of money right there, too, huh?

Yes. If a certain question come up. Oh, okay. I'm not going to tell you the question, but if... to come up there. We'll wait for that reveal. We'll wait for it. Okay. Yeah, so, you know, he needs that, man. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, we got along good until he went to jail the second time.

The most recent time. Not right now, but like the last one. Nine months ago or whatever. He did that time. Right. And it's like everyone was in his ear, leave 600 alone. And, you know, not to put too much business out there. You know, we signed Crickman, where he was signed to a nice deal, and he got nice percentages. And with, with the money he got, he got all of his percentage, all of CME's percentage, and probably double that in advances. I never paid none of the back.

Very, very lenient with him, very, very, very cool with him, just looking at the big picture. So these guys, my point of making is that, they were saying, he's taking your money. You've got more money than you made, and you never pay this back. So how are we taking money? Mm-hmm.

What do you mean? So, but I don't know what the hate was, you know what I'm saying? They just didn't want me to be with him. So when he got out, we was kind of like not really talking. But then, you know, he knows me. And I'm a good person. I really want to see him win.

I really want to see him safe. And, you know, so we get our few videos here and there. We work out. We got some box stuff going on. It's possibly going to fight Bosco. We was at the gym. Good connections, you know what I'm saying? Had a few meals, you know what I'm saying?

Then when he caught this case, it was kind of a rap. Now he don't even call me. He didn't call me since been in jail. I haven't talked to him. Interesting. And, I mean, his most prominent manager, at least during this most recent time that he was out was Chinamac. Right.

Did you have issues with him early on or when did that kind of start to become a thing? I had no issues with China Mac before. It was actually cool. He had my number. I was kind of I'm going to be rich and I don't really care of people to say. I was just kind of using him for content. You know, person I have nothing against China Mac.

But I will say that, you know, in the content, I don't lie, but you know, he should have been, you know, more stricter on Crip Mac, you know what I'm saying? And whoever was around him. And I don't think no one was really around him as much as Chinamack, so I had to put the blame on China Mac.

You're responsible. He shouldn't be catching no cases. You should be more of a figure. Hey, man, listen, let's not go over there, forget all that stuff. Let's not carry no guns. Let's not do nothing. Let's focus on the money. We got this going.

I'm trying to get you this. Fuck all that. Maybe he wasn't, you know, had that with him that to make him do that. I was like that. I'm like, bro, can we curse? Yeah, of course. I'm like, listen, bro, fuck these niggas, bro. Let's go get this money.

Fuck them niggas over there. Fuck the hood. Nigel, you're famous. I'm famous because of you. I need you out here. We're trying to get some millions. But he just led a hood. He led a hood shit.

So, you know, I have to put the blame on Chinamack. So, you know, if China Mac is watching, there's nothing personal against Chinat Mac, we had never had no personal beefs. And he's seeing what I was doing because in his response, he said, these guys are, what do you say, suckers? He doesn't he don't want to say my name because he knows even said my name.

It helps me out because I don't give a fuck about this shit. We're just talking some internet shit. So, yeah, and it's nothing personal towards him. I really don't know him like that. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of weird because did you see the Channel 5 put out a documentary about Krip Mac yesterday? I haven't watched it. It was so long.

I used to watch them long ones when I'm by myself, not busy. Right. I'm going to watch it though. So in the documentary, you see a little bit of a change of heart where China Mag said, and this was probably filmed like maybe two weeks, three weeks before he stopped being Krip Mack's manager from behind bars. And China Mac says, if Krip Mac actually gets a 15 years sentence, I will leave this country. He says if he gets 15 years, I am out of here.

I am exiting America. Fast forward two weeks. Krip Mac has one of his moments that realistically he's pretty much had on anyone who's ever managed him. Seen him do it to Lupa, trip out on Lubei, seen him trip out on you. probably even tripped out on China Mac previous to all this. It's just been like various times where anyone who manages him, there's going to be a time period.

And you kind of even see this with like his mom and his grandma that they've just accepted it. Right. That he's schizophrenic. He goes through shit. If you're going to fuck with him, there's going to be time periods where he does some fuck shit that you don't really like, but you're just going to have to rock with it and then assume that he's going to come back to reality soon after. And it was just kind of wild to me that China Mac, knowing that. changed up on him that quick and decided that this was just too untenable of a situation,

especially when you consider that the thing that he did with China Magnet. Now, granted, it was kind of weird saying the South Siders came to my cell and told me that you're not allowed in L.A. Kind of weird. I don't know where the fuck that came from, honestly. It doesn't really seem that likely that that's a conversation that was actually really happening in jail. I don't really know. But it doesn't really seem like, especially because Krip, was apologizing like immediately after. Within two days, he was saying, I'm sorry, China, Mac.

I was fucked up for saying that, yada, yada. I don't really know where it came from, but it just seems kind of hilarious to me that this supposedly incredibly strong bond that would have caused China Mac to actually leave America was not enough to keep him around. Maybe he was just saying like a bet. Maybe he was saying like he's not getting that much time.

If you get that much time, I go, it's like someone saying, man, if you get that much time, man, I'll give you all my money. Right. It could have been something like that. Well, people always say, you know if Donald Trump wins I'm moving to Canada that's what I'm saying motherfuckers never moved to Canada everybody said they were gonna move to Canada nobody moved

right so he never apologized to me and I never really respect apology I usually just expect him to just come back and we just act like nothing happened that's just how he wrote right so I don't diss me he didn't tell me I look like my dear I need to go put a dress on you know disrespectful stuff damn me put this on the same so if you saw China Mac where what would it be like what's up huh What's happening? Let's see what he'll. But if he says it's all good, then you're not going to push the issue?

No. Listen, man, 90% of this stuff I'm doing online is for entertainment, man. If I see it right now, I'm like, what's up, bro? You see that video? Now, I'm going to match his energy. Now, if he start laughing, man, why he did? I'm going to say, man, you know what I did it? If you say, no, I'm like, what's your two then?

Don't get a fuck. Mom's matches energy, but I'm going to come humble. You can tell Krip Mac, hey, I got a lot. license, I can carry the gun so you don't got to worry about it. I've done that before. Chinamac is a felon. Yeah. Not able to carry a gun, I guess. In another state. Legally, especially in another state. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, Crip Mac is a guy, especially having whoop-de-whoop killer on his goddamn forehead where everybody around him is always kind of aware of the fact that this could become a thing. Even when we, when we have him

here and he's out in front of the store, it's kind of in and out. Like, He was only here one time, but it was very much like, you know, he took a picture out in front of the store real quick, but he's not really trying to be out in the open ever because realistically there's people who got issues with it. But what I was saying about that was, I wasn't, I used that in my content. I wasn't telling equipment, I mean, trying to make the carry a firearm. I was saying, man, y'all get money.

Y'all need to pay security. Y'all can pay me. Just make it happy. People will charge the low just to get content, just to be notoriety with him, you know what I'm saying? Just for the fame. You know what I'm saying? He gets my $100, a couple of dollars,

a little of dollars, I wrote you. Cash money for Arm Guard. They'll do it out of the rest, and a lot of these guys aren't really working. And the economy went in. So, it's, y'all making money, spend a couple of dollars, be safe. Motherfuckers, I think twice

if you got somebody with a legit firearm right here, whether then you got something hidden in your pocket. They know it's going to be a shootout when you come. It's just about the presence, man. The whole thing with Krip-Mack, though, is that he would get, look, to do something for $500. And it's like, knowing Krip-Mack,

that $500 is probably gone by the market. morning right right so if you're gonna have to have a security guard who I don't know like what's the cheapest security guard that's gonna rock with you for a day maybe it's like a hundred bucks or something I don't really know any dudes you're running around for a hundred bucks if you get somebody a lot of you guys aren't working if you get somebody that's gonna just work with you may roll with me yeah I ain't making a lot of money that I'm a slide you a hundred but those same guys are at some point going to get frustrated the way that you were trying to make up got frustrated because they're going to be dealing with the ups and downs right no he used

take care of his business part when he thinks it's not business and he's he think he can play in this certain little games, then he'll do that. As far as business, like I'm sure he had paid for his restaurant. I'm sure he'd pay for the security. I'm sure he'd pay for the taxi or whatever. I'm sure he's going to take care of his business because he really don't want his name messed up.

He don't even like it when people said they sent money. And he said, these people are saying you scamming them. I said, bro, who got scammed? They didn't send me no money. So he's pretty much good on his word as far as that. You know, he would break himself to make sure that the people are taken care of, but he don't want to that one of his name. Right.

So I don't think that would be a problem. Like I say, people work with you. You know, man. That's what I'm saying. With me, I was going to work with him. You know what I'm saying? We'll work together. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? Man, we're $500. Okay, cool. Listen, we got to hire an arm guard, get a rental car. You make $800. We're going to pull up, $400 right now. Ex's a couple hundred dollars to make it happen. You know what I'm saying?

But they got to be business savvy. They're not really business savvy. They're trying to get this and, no, we need every dollar. If you got an extra $50. All that's their ass up during the day. If you do a feature, $100, okay, $150. If you get three or four, $50 every day, that's an extra couple hundred dollars. You know what I said is up.

Right. That's how he was able to get so much money from us. He got all the money he made, our percentage, and more money. Go, go, go, just here, unlimited. So you object to, at one point he was saying that you scammed him for $2,000 to get his Instagram back? No, not me. Saying you scam the fans. Well, never scam no fans.

That's cap? Absolutely cat. I don't believe he said I scammed the fans. Okay. What he did, he was trying to get that KripMac page from the people in the sky. Who you work on behalf of, the people who have signed this to this management contract that we can never really get to the bottom of exactly what this is all about. The people in the sky, right?

And it's just a guy who doesn't really want to be identified or linked to this, I guess. And so, so basically, mind you, he owes so much money. The message that I got him received was like, bro, how is he going to give us some money for something? He owes his money. So I said, I'm out of it, bro. And I talked to him about that. I said, bro, listen, you know what? since y'all used me as a middleman, I said,

Cremack, I'm gonna make sure you get that money back. So we was actually on good term before he went to jail. And I actually knew he was in jail. And I posted saying, sent him to jail, he was on bail. He called me, take that down, bro. You'll get me in jail. My pill, I said, bro, number one, if you're in jail, if you get violated and I won't be because of me.

They're gonna know. But I'm gonna take it down respect for you. So I took it down. So I said, we was in contact up until he had to turn itself in. But he just ain't called me. They're in his ear, it's over with. Do you think Chinamax really banned from L.A.? No, I don't really think nobody could ban anybody in 2024.

Hmm. It's not the same as the 90s. L.A. is too broad. Yeah. People could be banned from certain areas. Yeah, certain areas, you know. Maybe doing certain things, doing certain types of business. But don't get me wrong, though.

You might have people who try to make an example from certain situations out of certain people, but, I mean, you got to look at it like this. Who's saying he's banned? Do they have the resources? What's the reason? Is it worth using all these resources to prove a point to ban someone? Right. Who's actually saying he's banned?

Who said he's banned? Was it, was it Krimack saying at a certain point? Grimack said that? Was it him saying that he was banned? Yeah, I mean, I forget who exactly was saying that. I don't know. You know his band is when you see something like that Kondo Rondo shit. You know, that's a dude who they wanted their guy.

When his guy got shot? And he was in a touristy-ass area, not too far from here. and they fucking ran up assassin style and they took his homie out I heard they were I heard they was just trying to get their man I don't think it was like on him it wasn't on Cuando was it I mean still to this day I'm kind of confused

because his man was talking hell of shit about the situation with Vaughn and everything but it's like Cuando did plenty of disrespectful ass shit did somebody get arrested for it for that murder no I don't think so we're still waiting on that but I'm just saying like that's an example

of if they really don't want you here then I mean clearly people are capable of making shit happen well that's what I'm saying certain situations you know people will try to make an example out of certain things but like I said you got it just depends on who you're dealing with they got ahead of resources you know you can't be for a Joe Blow from this neighborhood saying you can't come out here when bro you got your own stuff going on your neighborhood you can't stop these people you know you can pull up with you know five armed guards and pull up wherever you want you know what I'm saying

so it just it just depends on who's initiating that shot right so So, okay. At this point, have you just kind of given up on the Krimack thing? You're just leaving it alone? Or if it's requested by the man upstairs, not God, but there's other guy who has them under contract, would you still get involved and deal with certain things on their behalf? On their behalf, I mean, they got business things, do what they got to do.

They got six-and-six letters. They got stuff they can do. I mean, they need me to actually go file it like I served you that one day. That was funny. You know, that's it. People hit me up all the time thinking that. I'm like, listen, I don't know if there are papers that might someday be served to me, but that was a skit.

It was a skit. Okay. It was a fun skit. That was funny. But, yeah, like I say, Crickmack cool with me. When I say, he don't deal with me in jail, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know.

I say he didn't call me. But, you know, maybe when he get out, I don't know how to send us and go, do you do half time? Do you do 80% of time? If he get out, you know, I'm here for him. That's still my bro. You know what I'm here? We got some good memories, man. we got some good times together.

You know, so we made money together. We have fun. So, you know, we'll see I go. I got it. So how'd you get introduced to X-4? X-Fo. So, back to the X-Fo. I don't know about X-Fourn before he went to PIN the first time.

He met a song dissing the homies, this to everybody. I'm like, let's do this and everybody, man. We'll do it right. But, you know, he was pretty talented. Whatever, okay. He'd go to jail, whatever he's doing. So, Wack, give me a position that cash money, West. You got to get you some artists, man

Let's get it I'm like, cool So I'm like, do the management And we do this part So I'm thinking, okay, I can get the management and get this part of the money And on the back end with the company So I'm getting my management thing going

So I'm like, man, who are out here in LA We're gonna get, man I called home with fours, he's a little peeve I said, hey bro, where ex-foil at? He out? I said, bro, we got a sign here. Let's get him on the phone. You weren't worried about all the dissing and shit?

You figured we could get him past that? I mean, you know, or that's just kind of part of being a rapper, right? I mean, no, no, no. When you beefing and stuff like that, that's just, you know what I'm saying? He can't be too much of a homie disser when, you know, I put up on a game opportunity. He won this and me.

You know what I'm saying? But that's the past business. That's his business and how to be. So anyway. But Dijack said that he didn't want to sign him because basically, like, he didn't want to, he felt like with his name being so big and potentially corporate that he didn't really want to be signing somebody who's dissoning. You got to the next question.

You asked me how I meet him. Okay. So I had them get him on the phone. I said, hey, listen, bro, I want to sign you. I got a cash money west situation. I might have a situation at Warner. And if you got something in a universal,

either way I go, if I'll sign you, let's make it happen. And if I can't do that, would I get released, bro. Let's just press play. He like, shit, let's just do it. Fuck it.

I got to lose. I believe. Did his research, called around. Matt in my name. So yeah, let's do it, bro. Fuck it.

Signed out line. Let's go. We push. and so yeah yeah we rocked so I'm trying to figure stuff out for him you know talk to him about whack telling him why I got going whoop-wooop-wooop-woo. He actually didn't know DJD Sean Jackson but they know it's over Instagram so what do you mean talk to him about whack because I thought whack got involved later that's what I'm saying okay he was a part of me he knew all this stuff before we even met

whack before he even met D Jack because I assigned them to become the cash money west so I'm telling him, listen, I got the hottest thing in LA right now. We'll do, we'll do, we need to check him out. He's like, so you went to whack right away when you wanted to sign. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try to make this happen through cash money. Right. Flicking, we're gonna try to make this. This is the situation I got.

So, you know, whack posting, immediately people start hating, which is good. You know what I'm saying? Then, you know what I'm saying? Hating on whack or hating on him? Both. Hating on me? Hating on Wack. You got the neighborhoods who don't like Wack for whatever reason?

You know what I'm saying? A lot of people. So it's just how, however I go, it's all controversy. So I don't go to fuck shit. Get them out there, let's get it. Anyway, so I arranged a meeting. Me, D-Jack, X-Fo, Lil Pee-Wee. It's when we all meet up.

It's their first time meeting. Shout out Pee-wee. Yeah, shout-upi. So, that was a meeting, and we was going to put everything together, you know what I'm saying? These resources, these resources, where my job going to be,

what your job going to be, what we're going to do, we're going to do with the group. You know what I'm saying? We can just pull it up out of respect for me. You know what I'm saying? like whatever y'all want me to do bro let's get you know what i'm saying they called birdman on the phone you know what i'm saying talked to stunting that night it was it was a really good night they recorded some songs like it's up so you know what i'm saying that was a chance for him to you know

vibe with de jack you know shout out djack that's my bro for almost 20 years now and they was able to vibe you know what i'm saying and talk about what they talk about potentially signing and like you say he said he didn't sign up for whatever reason whatever whatever so that's how i met it and we just been rocking every since you're free ex-fought right now for him why why do you guys he got locked up this time there's another gun charge or yeah a little case yeah a little case okay what's it like like what's your involvement on a day-to-day basis working with him though we really got that going on okay you know what you know he went another way no no we're good okay no no we like them i'm saying like he's in jail what what can we got up going on right you know

what i'm saying he's in jail i mean whatever business he got his family take of his business he calls me you know what I'm saying? You know, he actually gave me a shout out the day. We had nice conversations. He said, man, I really fuck what you, you know what I'm saying? I said, well, you're holding. Let me get my phone out, man. We'll do, do. The people need to hear this. A lot of people saying that you ain't signed to me. You don't really mess with me. So we've seen that thing like a week ago. You're like, man, shout out of 600, man. You know the truth. We'll do it. We're going to be home soon. So that's cool. So, okay, there was a moment where there was a video filmed with you and Big You, and it kind of felt like he was,

sort of getting you to say on camera that you were fucking with him and not whack, that's kind of how we took it, or that he felt some kind of way about you having this sort of relationship with whack, and he wanted to make a statement. Can you explain how that video came together and what exactly was going on there? So that video was kind of about whack, but that wasn't about whack. He wasn't, we were going to tell him of whack.

What happened was it was people on the phone, five, six people on the phone calling me, about something that possibly had to do it with, whatever, right? But these dudes was, like, popping it, talking stuff, like they're tough. So I'm like, hey, bro, fuck all this. Where y'all at? And we're on the block. We'll do it.

I say I'm on my way. I pull up. I'm expecting all these dudes on the phone to pull up. Big, you don't want to pull up. So I get over there, I'm like, what up? And was this the day that you were in the parking lot on live where the guys were talking about Brick Baby in the background? No, this was.

Oh, that was a different. eight once before that okay okay so when i get there he like come on like come on what i'm about to fight you what i said i said bro what them niggas that who was on his phone that's what i put up for he thinking i'm pulling up for him to fight him i'm not about to fight you bro what them niggas on his phone who was popping and talk a tub that's why i said where y'all at they ain't show up so we get into talking about what we're talking about how this whole conversation happened then he pulled a phone out look this nigger right here yeah but me being a little hummy, you know what I'm saying, being humble, I'm letting him know.

Whoever was popping it, I'm going to take all the phase. Anybody got something to say? I'm on y'all. We can get down right now. So I'm talking about the people who didn't pull up who was on that phone. Now, for some reason, the click-based said I was talking about whack. Right. Why would I tell whack to pull up?

The internet reposters, the repurposers of content, they will always go with whatever fucking narrative than why. But it was a bunch of busters on the phone was talking so tough. That's why I put up order so fast, bro. Like in my head with me you mentioned my name I'm pulling up that's just how I get in you can't play with me so that's why that's how that happened So at what point does shit start to go left with you and big you? Oh man, so It's a lot of situations I'm not going to speak on but

He's been like throwing me in situations I hadn't done to do it for no reason and I've been having to come back like that day clear my name up and show who I am and what I'm really about. So, I've been doing this for years. Years. So when I get back from Dubai, my gun license come. This is like in March this year. So I got my gun license. Now, when I say, we've been toting pistols all our lives,

taking penitence and chances. Now I got the gun license. So he's lying on me telling my homies, he ain't got no gun license. I was with him when he went to jail. He can't get a gun license. If he got a gun, he's telling him. Six hundred tell him.

So he's telling multiple people, multiple of my homies. So he's, I don't know why he's doing this. I'm just like, why is he hating on me? Putting my life at danger, you know what I'm saying? So by him not having no paperwork on me, presenting paperwork coming to the hood, by him not, you know, doing something about it, I was like, he wanted to just play a game and talk,

we could talk, well, I could talk. So that's when I start talking. What are you talking to? You got a contract with LAPD. You're on paperwork. So I start talking. What's the nature of this alleged contract? LAPD.

What's that about? He has a contract with LAPD, the grid program. He has an LAPD-issued cell phone that's still placed in the contract. You have to be on call 24-7 and report to the station. It's in his contract. Isn't that supposed to be like intended to basically alleviate gang tension? or problems in various neighborhoods. Isn't that the whole idea of it?

I don't know. It's supposed to be a positive thing, but I see how some people repurpose this as if it's telling. And it probably is a positive thing. And I've said this on record before. If that's what you're going to do, I really commend you for that. Because when we come from,

there is no retirement as a gang member. You know, that's honorable. You got a contract with LAPD. You get a nice check, and you're able to stop this gang stuff that's really killing a lot of people. Right. I respect that.

The problem he has is when he comes back to the streets and tries to politic and act like he's still in the streets, knowing that you don't broke the rules, you forfeited the game already. You sign a concert with LAPD. You've been on the phone with detectives. So you don't have no say-so over here. So this is where the problem comes.

Then he's lying, politics and saying stuff about me. Just lying, though. Not even saying, oh, 600 told in 1991, here's the paperwork. You're making up lies, putting my life in danger. I guess, like, the thing with having that role and having this, you know, LAPD issued cell phone or whatever, is that you could use that role in a way that is entirely about maintaining peace,

but then a lot of people are also going to assume that you could very easily be telling them shit that could be used against people in criminal investigations. I'm sure that if I were to sit down and have a conversation with him about it, he's going to say, by no means am I ever going to use this relationship that I have with the city to put anybody away or whatever. But then, like, to the gang members, the people who are in the street, they're looking at as, well, you could and we would have no idea. So they look at it as problematic. This thing with that, right?

You know, he got his contract renewed over the years. Now, if it was like a lick, right, and we're in the hood, hey, bro, the police trying to give us a check. Let's just make up some shit. Let's get the check. That's honorable to the hood. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, they worked the LAPD for a million dollars. They got a check for them.

They gave them all fake information. but when you do it and give them enough sufficient information to renew your contract every year you're participating in what they want to participate and like I said that's honorable you know it's nothing I applaud police officers all law enforcement fire department I applaud those people but you can't play both sides that's what the problem is

but it almost feels like you know he's been in this shit forever damn near from its inception and at a certain point with him getting older you know it's like you would expect or you would hope that at a certain point that he would basically change his focus from having problems with people or doing dirty work and kind of switch over to how do we make the community better and it almost feels like if he wants to do that if you want to be a community organizer or whatever probably at a certain point you're going to have to have contact with the police now there's a way that you do that that everybody could agree was productive and positive and then there's another way that you could look at it where it could be like, oh, you could use that role to basically do bad things to the people you don't get along with and help keep eyes off of the people you do fuck with. Yeah, I didn't look at that part. That's the whole other topic.

I didn't even talk about that. I was just about involving with him, period. And like I say, it's respectable and honorable for him to do that. And every gang member in LA would respect him for that. Okay. His problem he's having is when he tries to play both sides. He can't play both sides. He walked away from the streets, hey, man, I'm trying to this police stay in the kids.

you know what I'm saying get rid of all this killing every gang member in LA will respect it no one was never said nothing to him his problem he's trying to pay both sides right that's what's been the problem in interesting okay but so and then how much of it is the shit with whack too because he blatantly like anybody who fucks with whack he's made this clear to me he might not be a hundred percent not fucking with me because i do a podcast with whack but certainly he ain't a hundred percent cool with me either because me even just sitting there having even though i try to steer the conversation away from the big you shit i try not to bring it up or whatever he's going to feel a certain type of way about anybody who has any kind of relationship with whack and you still do business

with whack as well right yeah well that's something that's like that's like something that's like that's like female stuff bro you know what i'm saying like you know if i have ops i'm not going to get involved with you what you're going on if i got something personal with this man that's between me i'm not going involve anyone else and like I say these are the problems he's having whack been disrespecting him for two years online he wants to involve everybody else go get your man but does whack say things about Nipsey that you look at and you're like fuck I don't want to have anything to do with this guy because he'd be saying this crazy a shit about Nipsey for sure for even for me

sometimes it's like Jesus Christ I can't believe him well certain things you say I've really trying to stay away from it because I know how people react right but what he say is facts and his own opinion you know he said in his opinion Nipsey's not a musical legend. I never heard him. I never heard him take away enough for him on the streets. But all that shit seems kind of light compared to some other stuff

that he's brought up about Nipsey over the years. But one thing I will say about WAC is that he will sometimes lie under the guise of trolling. But generally speaking, when he says something and he seems like he's really serious, he is telling the truth,

or at least what he believes to be the truth. Yeah, he's standing on what he's standing on. Man, I saw respect him, man. what I'm saying? And he said once he said twice. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never heard anybody's tongue on that. You know what I'm saying? You really said what he said me and me and we say. But yeah, man, like I say, you know, all that stuff about dealing with this person like, bro, I don't know what, what, stand at the 80s, bro.

We're going to get it how we're going to get it. Okay. So do you think that the relationship with Big U is something that could get fixed at a certain point or does it feel like that's kind of gone too far? Well, he got to fix it. I mean, because he started and he's still doing it. You know, I'm just everything I've been doing, all my homies tell you and they tell me, I see what you're doing. It's all the response. You know, they tell me, bro, just leave out online stuff alone. It's too much business online.

And I'll fall back. I said, bro, I'm cool. You know, even with cowboy and everybody else. But, you know, he's still at it. You know, he's still saying stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's still calling around. Like, his name is so tarnished.

He tries to act tough around people who don't know him, who don't know the history, don't know the things that matters. Why is his name Tarnish? Just this contract or whatever? Well, no, it's, I mean, where did we start? I mean, he got multiple strikes that are real strikes. Not even strikes, like X-outs, you know? I mean, you want me to just start throwing them out there?

I mean, maybe gives us a little bit of information. I don't want to go too crazy, but, yeah. Okay, he told on Eddie boy. He snitched on Eddie boy. Him? No, Eddie boy. Eddie boy. Hell none.

You're 80 bands. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I talked to Eddie boy, right? Eddie Boy gave me the paperwork. Eddie Boy told me he told on him. There's a recording of me and Eddie Boy talking that confirms all of this. Okay?

Told on him for what? Told the police he should never went to work for Eddie. Also, told the police, I never touched the dope. Eddie only touched the dope. So this is what Eddie's telling me before he gives me the paperwork. So all this stuff is documented and we got Eddie saying it, right? You can't deny that. So that's like me saying,

Adam told on me Hey y'all Adam told on me Here's the paperwork And y'all like no he ain't telling you bro I'm telling you he told him he's the work I got Eddie on recording saying man I sent that to the gonna play the clip I sent that to them cats man

When we first got cracked dead north that stuff bro They still ignored it I said that in the video I said man they still ignored it I thought that you know what I'm saying like dudes was like different But, you know, I ain't trippar them does me. I didn't even know about that allegation. I got looking to that more. But what is it like to be?

Because Wack is kind of in this position a lot too, where he has opinions that seem like they're mostly true or like, you know, he believes that he could stand on it, but then they're unpopular opinions and people don't want to hear it. The position you kind of find yourself in? Some people don't want to hear the truth, bro. That's just how it is.

And like I said, we throw another nut there, you know. You just hanging with a rat. is just as bad as you being a rat, okay? Cowboy, I tell you he told, okay? He'll tell you he took this stand. He gave you whatever he reason. The rules are you don't do that under no circumstances. On top of the, he's a registered sex offender, okay?

So Big U invites this guy a few months ago to a celebrity basketball game in our neighborhood. Cowboy who took the stand. It was a registered sex offender. High-risk sex offender at that. Not a sex offender. So the story he told me on the interview because he basically said that he like,

went to rob a girl for her chain back in the day or something he went to snatch the necklace off her neck and he ended up like cutting her with his nail or something so you didn't see the paperwork so that's not true you got a little act on a 14 year old you can look up the code that's on megan's law i tell you the code that he has here's the totally made-up story he's telling everybody i did a whole 10-minute video on it by sake the whole video oh shit i got to be more homework just another situation of people select the politics you know what i'm saying so i say just that alone not including he took the stand he told her when he took the stand Big U harbors this guy.

You know what I'm saying? Advice him to the basketball game. In front of everybody. You know what I'm saying? He thinks he's bigger in program. So I say, that's just numerous things that he got going on. You know what I'm saying? This is why, you know, he's voted off the island.

You know what I'm saying? Jeez, all right. But do you feel like kind of exed out from a lot of shit because of the fact that you've chosen to be vocal about this when a lot of people seem like they ain't trying to hear it? I'm mixed out from people who select the politician, but those people who select the politics and don't pay my bills. I don't make money in the streets no more.

You know, I don't really have nothing to do with them. I'm just glad everybody showed their hand in my neighborhood. I didn't have to deal with them no more. Really? Okay. I was the one who was giving money. I was the one who, you know, gave people their first $20,000. I was the first people who I brought Rose Royces to my neighborhood

and let people drive ghosts and phantoms in the hood who are never going to be in a Rose Royce again. I put people on the first airplane, you know what I'm saying? So there's nothing for me. You know, for me not talking to them people no more. Don't do nothing for me. My life keeps going. How did you link up with YCA 80 bands? Man, I see this stuff on Instagram, man.

You know what I'm saying? We mess this for a while. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm saying? He didn't want out of L.A. right now. And we've been rocking ever since. Man, I did my background on him. He's like me.

He's on what he's standing on. And our neighborhoods get along. So, you know, that was an easy part. What neighborhood were talking about? I'm from Main Street. Okay. Out to east side. And how did, from your perspective, how did you meet Christopher Lovejoy?

Shit, like, I seen that nigga. He was ringing, like, he was, basically his name was ringing bells. And I'm like, this nigga's standing on business. Whoever this nigga is, I hit him up, seen he managed, like, he already managed shit. He got connection with that nigga whack. I've been trying to hook up with that nigga.

Me and whack good, too, shout out of whack. But after that, we was, you know, he, like, send me some shit. You feel me? Send him some shit, you know. Then we had a couple of meetings and shit. He's like, we're really going to press play. You feel me? If you're serious, you're going to write up some paperwork.

You feel me? And they're going to really press play. And soon we pressed play, it was really press play. No cap. Like, we just started gas. So how long you've been serious about the music, though? I've been doing me. I'm one of the originals.

I've been doing music just like 07 on me. I'm one of the ones that been slept on about three, four times. I don't watch everybody get in the game, fall off, getting the game, fall off. I'm just waiting on my side. Why do you think that is? Were you just not networking right or getting your face out there? Low key. And I had all the talent.

I was oblivious, thinking that the talent is really weird sad. Like, I got all the talent. I'm the most talented. But it ain't about that like that. It's kind of about having connections. You know, this niggas that's ass that's selling records and shit. It's because, not because they was hard. It was because they knew somebody that knew somebody.

And I was so busy working on my craft, which it paid off, because now I'm the best. And he just can't fuck with me. But other than that, that wasted a lot of my time, though, bro. That is something I've thought about a bunch in terms of the advice that I would give to a younger rapper or somebody trying to make it, because you literally have to split your time. Like if you have 40 hours in a week that you're not working or that you're able to put time into doing this music thing, if you got 40 hours, you might want to put 20 of them into working on the music and 20 of them into networking and getting yourself out there and shit like that. I don't know what the actual ratio is because it might be more like you should be spending 30 hours a week working on the music. and then a little bit of time getting out there

and letting people see your face and stuff. But it's definitely a balance because, you know, you could have like okay music and make great relationships with a bunch of rappers who would make your music better, show you how to make music better, get you with the right producers, you know, like if you had just stayed in the crib

100% working on the music, you would have never met him. Never. You probably wouldn't be here right now. Talk like literally complaining, watching your show, talking about, man, I'm supposed to be up on there. This is crazy.

But the whole time, I'm basing this shit off my talent because I really, I am hard, but it's like okay, you're hard, so what? Like on me, do some viral shit, be viral. Me, the viral, nigga. Get viral, get lit. And, nigga, you might get a fucking invite.

When you get your invite and it, make sure you know how to handle that shit, you feel me. And that's what the fuck is going on right now, I think. I think this is happening, but it's so fucking, it's happening so fast that it's like, surreal. It's crazy. But from your perspective, how do you market and promote a street?

rapper. Like, what do you do these days? Some people will be out here going viral saying drill is dead. And by that, I assume that they also would probably lump in like L.A. Street music. Like, there's a certain ceiling at a certain point. How do you get them into the game, never mind break through that? I'm going to be real with you, man. Even though I'm a manager, I'm more like a a promoter, man. Like, whatever platform I got, he got it. You know what I'm saying? Whatever connection I got, he got it. You know what I'm saying? We just go from there. I'm going to push you, I'm gonna push your shit like it's my shit. I'm gonna play your music like it's mine.

I'm gonna post them like your pictures on my page like it's mine. You gonna know everybody I know and we're gonna see we can get out this shit. Ain't nothing promise, but we're gonna try our best, you know what I'm saying? And that's just that we push it. We're gonna get some money.

We gonna be a hundred with you. I'm gonna go to bat for you. You gotta need problems and my problems. You know what I'm saying? And we just go out like that. That's just how I wrote with everybody. Whoever I sign, we rock it. What I said?

He's dealt with crazy ass. How would you rate yourself in comparison in terms of like difficulty to deal with? Are you waking up tripping? Are you occasionally making outlandish requests? What's a... Like, for, like, me and Cuds, like, how I'm dealing with him? I mean, there's all different levels of difficulty

that you could get from your clients when it comes to management and whatnot. I'd be out of the way because I've been... Thank God I've been in the game so long that I really kind of know how to... I know how to do all the shit, basically, that I've been wanting to do. It's just, like, could give me the extra push.

Because it's like, what the fuck? I'm going to go book a thousand dollars. of venue for shoot a three-hour music video to move a couple videos do all this to spend all this money if only it's only going to reach so many people I feel some type of way like I really do

like so it's like with my machine behind me and my management and my team it's like okay now everything that I really push and drop it really make more sense like you feel how old are you? I'm 30 30

so in the rap world, sometimes it feels like it could be difficult to get people to attention when you're a grown man. Obviously, like, we've seen the outlandish amount of attention that X4 has gotten over the last couple of months, but at the same time, he's young, he's like skinny, he got the crazy-ass face tattoos. He kind of got that, like, young jit appearance that, you know, that could take you to a certain degree in rap. It could take you to a certain place. In terms of, like, marketing yourself and shit, like, how thoughtful are you about that?

really I'm gonna keep it G I thought about that too I felt like me being in the streets like just really known I'm known in the streets like everybody really know me like these niggas know the truth and my my section shout out the 80 shout out to August boys OT nicks know the true

but you feel me my section I got the keys to my section right you feel me like I'm put on for my hood and they got my fucking back you feel me so that shit help and just with my hood is a big hood so that shit pushed through LA you know it's with me it's not really about the age like it's the politics it's what stand behind me is what I really stand for like

little niggas like little niggas might had the juice the action and all that and I ain't speaking on the homie because that's my homie on the sex fro but I'm saying like a lot of young niggas got that juice they got that look but niggas don't really got that stand on business I got that because I didn't being a young nigga I didn't had that I didn't did I didn't walk yards I didn't did all that you feel me ran dorms all that type of shit so that's where I get my promotion from how much time you spend locked up I did three years in the pen. I did years changing the county multiple times.

Like, I just bouncing back. But the long as I did was that out of five years, but I did three off the five. Right. So you comfortable in those environments, or is that something that kind of made you clean up your act and made you want to stay away from that shit? Yeah, it made me, because I was a disrespectful,

a nigga. I didn't think I had to respect nobody. Like disrespect to my mom, all that shit. I said, you're going to mind somebody. You feel me? I'm like, man, I don't know what you're talking about. Then I went to jail and I minded somebody. The fucking Johnny's nigga, when they tell you to do this and do that,

you're going to do it. So that kind of made me feel like pressured up. Like, damn, I couldn't even listen to my mama, but I'm listening to these people. So it kind of made me have some hair on my chest where when I get my opportunity to hit the streets, you feel me again, then I'm going to set a different example. I'm going to be like this.

I'm going to be like that because to me that was like some buster shit. Like, you're going to listen to because. but you couldn't even listen to your mom when she cared for you she had love and killed died for you you feel me like that type of stuff made me start growing up

and start becoming like a you feel me yeah like that you know acting like that all the time you know relax bro definitely yeah I gotta tap in with your music more honestly I feel like I the first time

I seen him post you I just watch mad shit on Instagram and I was definitely impressed I followed you right away but yeah I mean definitely like what do you guys feel like the the path is going forward like how are you rolling him out at this point or is there a focus on like a project or music videos like what's the goal I mean like I said we're just pressing play

man whatever we're in the studio we're making we making shit you know what I'm saying we're shooting videos we're just doing we're just doing just the press run right now just getting his name out there he got a whole bunch of content he got a whole bunch of catalog he got a whole bunch of records he got everything my main thing right now is get him out there and let him keep working him while I'm working the back part you know what I'm saying we get him out there he keep working he's doing his videos he keep dropping stuff And we're gonna see how to take flight. Like the music is like, I ain't gonna even hold you.

Like I got a lot of music. Remember I was telling you, I was the nigga that was working on music while niggas was actually working. Right. So that kind of paid off. So now I'm just like on some, like I'm written. I got albums that I could drop whenever the fuck I won't. But it's like, why are you going to drop them?

Who you know? Like, drop this shit on time. You feel me? Like I got gang business. I just dropped that. That shit low-key go crazy. The one I think you've seen, you feel me, like I'm putting. like I'm pushing that right now.

And that's just a single, but we're talking about these albums. I got the crossover. I got still gassing. You feel me? All type of shit. Like, when you get a chance, this. I definitely got to dive deeper into it. Because it's not all West Coast. My bad cuts you all. He really can rap. He got the songs. He got the street credit, all that stuff. But he really can rap.

Like, go bar for bar with any of these dudes out here. You know what I'm used to the west. Like, you know, like said, my job right now is just getting really out there and let people see. Once they see him and tap in where they go, no. Oh, yeah. Let's work, man. niggas playing less work certain people you know don't want you know certain people to represent the coast or the city a certain way you know but like I said he can really do it

what's the YCA stand for young California affiliates okay is that like a crew that you've been represent since you were way younger yes I was a young nigga like since I first started this shit like oh seven we got like niggas that and got you know died from our shit all that like rest of peace my nigga Chris Donnell you feel me they didn't really die for this shit you know god 100% where the 80 bands come from I'm from out the 80s you feel shout out to the 80s out the main streets you feel me and the bands is it I just like money I ain't gonna lie I'm like fucking I like money that's crazy I I've never asked you me I don't know that when it's over and I'm like damn what you're gonna do when you get a hundred bands I ain't gonna

shit I'm just gonna have a hundred bands I didn't put it I didn't put it I didn't put it I didn't put together like 80s I didn't think about me me but that's where that name came from 100% what uh what's the tension between you and milk milk you finally got a white op huh that nigger blocked me uh you know what man i really ain't got no like i say i'm really just i'm the rookie at a year in this youtube world youtube street 2023 you know what i i take that cram what i'm saying to say is that uh when i first called him out i said man i want to do interview with you man you know you're making videos about me but you ain't at me at me you know i'm trying I guess subscribers too.

So it really ain't nothing. I mean, like say, but like he's a little younger, man. You know, them dudes on that side of town don't really like dudes from inside town and his age group and all that. Oh, right. He probably don't. He probably ain't in with that. But I'm with to meet up, bro.

I'm with doing interviews. I don't care about me. I'm trying to just grow. How I can grow. But like I say, it ain't, it ain't no beef. If I see him, I'm probably messing with him. Hey, man, you used talking shit? What's up?

You're a muggy? Yeah, what's up, man? I'll do something like that. I ain't going to touch him. He's hilarious, bro, because, like, you know, I've seen him. I'm a playful guy, man. I seen him on, back on fig. So I'm like, oh, all right.

He's back on good terms with those dudes. You fucking with them. That's cool. Whatever. I don't give a fuck. And then a couple weeks later, he got crazy Instagram stories going nuts on punning AD. I'm like, how the fuck are you thinking? Like, he just always does this.

Like with me, he did the interview. And then months later, boom, I'm Adolf Hitler to him. He's going crazy on me. talking about me like that. So it's like when I see him doing back on fig and then he going nuts on ad and pun right away and not just going nuts on him but saying stuff that's like clearly not true. Like he always say this shit about AD used to be a stripper. Oh, he's making up shit. We all know that that's not true. We all know AD did a non-stripper or whatever. So it's like that's a different line because if you want to talk shit about shit that really happened,

it is what it is. Right. But as soon as you started talking about like shit that we know ain't true. It's like what you're just having so much fun online that you're just like saying anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I know he'd do all that. Like I said. No credibility. He got a hard time getting along. Because if he was just cool with all them, they could probably like really help him with his career and shit, right? I thought that was cool. Like I said, I saw him sit down over there. Yeah. I said, okay, he's cool with him. I kind of feel like their whole deal is like

T. Rowling and the man going to fuck with him if he's going crazy on ADM pun. And I'm sure milk ain't going over there because he's going to go viral. Like who, how did, who is he? He's just been talking shit for a long time. I don't know. Let's tell that Nicky less box that set up with boxing man. It's weird because, like, I genuinely think he's pretty goddamn hilarious. I watch his videos from time to time

about other people and I think they're fucking funniest shit. I haven't heard of him. If you think about the last four years since I interviewed him, I would have done so many things to help his career. I would have helped put him in position mad times.

He don't want people to fuck with him. Anytime he gets into a position where it seems like people are fuck with him, he just, nah, fuck it. I'd rather be with you. A lot of people don't like that, man. See, I'm a snake. That's not like some snake shit.

I'm appreciative. You know what I'm appreciative of being here. you know what I'm sure your priests are being here you know what I'm just my life was so crazy dealing with the illegal activities risking my life risking my freedom well not like I said when I was boxing I'm running around talking shit I could talk shit to motherfuckers and I ain't gonna worry about a bullet you know what I'm saying internet shit you know it's a little a little more dangerous but you know shit I'm just I'm in the playground man you know what I'm saying because before and I was in the streets you can't do that so this internet shit I'm loving this shit

man I'm just wanting to be famous too you know what I'm saying so I just talk to the stuff I speak on it'd be facts. I don't make up lies on people. But it is for entertainment. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. And like I say, I'm older, so I'm not just incriminating myself with things I'm saying. I'm actually calculated. Even though we do it one take, Jake, we don't need a screening. I already know what's saying or what's saying what I'm not saying. I'm not going to leave. Like, fuck, I sent that on camera. Hey, Adam, can you take that out? I don't know what I was thinking, bro. I'm like, yeah. Definitely. And yo, we're doing a new series out the front of the store. We're going to have people rapping and like actually doing like these dope videos and stuff I definitely want to get you in there

and we got a sample of one that we film with brick but uh we're gonna we got like big sads gonna do it a couple other people soon kind of hot 106 and part kind of like that yeah yeah just like you know make a song either here in our booth or like record it somewhere else and then you can just perform it in front of the store or in the store i'll show you the one with brick it's really dope like we got a lot of good shit coming over that when he gonna do it we're gonna get anyone that's what i'm saying okay because i feel like he actually he could shine in that environment yeah I'm gonna go crazy. That's a pleasure, man.

Yeah, I got you. It's an opportunity. Like I said, I've been, bro, I've been, I watch your show, bro. On me, I'll be sitting up, watch your show. So this is what I'm going to the people, I swear to God,

just keep going at this point. I'm going to be one of them niggas today. Keep going because I swear to God, I never thought I'd be right here sitting with two before I got smoked at least. Like, because I'm in the streets. You feel me? Like, niggas, I didn't talk to all these niggas.

All these niggas, all these niggas, guy stores, fat Joe, niggas from the evening. He's colds, niggas on the, everybody I didn't been in their damn. They didn't been in my shit. Fuck with Ralphie. I didn't talk to him. I didn't fuck with everybody.

And everybody kind of just tell me, like, you know, I'm hard as fuck. Keep going or just like, you know, some shit I know. But, you know, I'll be waiting on. This is the first nigga that actually, like, man, you hard as fuck. Let's press play. Man, exactly. Nick, let's press play. So, nigga, this is what happening.

It just feel crazy, bro. It's crazy because this is. probably like being born in LA when you really come down to it if you want to make it as a rapper being born in LA is probably the best place you could possibly be born on earth but at the same time it is so territorial and everybody's got their own shit going on everybody got their own artists they're already trying to break that it's it's tricky to get into a position even though this might be the best place that you could be born to have a career in music you know you ain't line because you right the way the gang separated like the paroos the hovers neighborhoods you feel me you know compting niggas and shit like that you feel me like but you know but that's it ain't the main streets ain't really had no no noise since del dog you feel me was fucking with snoop and east sideers and all that type of stuff and once that was over with like we ain't

had nothing rolling like nothing going like you see everybody had rappers in their neighborhood like so this shit is real huge for the east side you nigga g perico from broadway you feel me that nigga's sad from Playboys like shit like that didn't happen like damn because the Playboys got a rapper like that's crazy like because you feel me like they weren't like no big hood like

that to us growing up and shit like that so for them to be shining with a rapper it's like what's up with the humus we need some so we shout you out on me because you put a nigga on this stage as well as this nigga 600 on me and we're going to put the set on it's my pleasure for sure this is why

I'll help I appreciate you guys What's coming in? No, we ain't done. Oh, we got more. Okay. Not too long ago. Biggie, you was kind of like, you know, seeing his, he was seeing his name, you know what I'm saying, not really doing too good in the world, right?

He wanted to call, he want to call people I know and say, oh, man, he thinks he is. He won't get any gloves with me. I'm like, bro, he told you that? Oh, yeah. You were in the phone, right? Yeah, three, four people in the phone. Like, he took about three in the phone. So you said, I won't get any gloves with you.

I got 50 bands, honey. Oh. We can get in the gloves. We can get the gloves. You say, I won't get in the gloves with you. We can get the gloves. I'm going to bed you. When to take all, you bring your 50, I bring my 50.

However you want to do it. And this ain't no bully type callout shit. You told me I won't get in the gloves with you. That's what he told me. That's what he told them about me. So this ain't no made up shit. Me trying to bully him. I'm going to call your bluff.

What's up? When we're doing it? I got my 50 right here. I mean, shit. Does, when's the last time Big U box somebody? Is he used to that? I don't know. He's talking like, he's talking tough like I won't do it. This is what I'm saying. He's talking

saying this stuff. I'm not saying picking on somebody who don't box no more. I'm not picking on nobody, nothing. This is what he said, so we're going to call your bluff. Yeah, I don't say that. He made that up. Well, shit. You're communicating a message. I'm sure we'll find out what the answer is soon. Let's see.

Hmm. Okay. Well, that's interesting. Let me check this out. I've never seen this much before in real life. I can see why the rappers do this Yeah That feels good Better than a real phone for sure All right

Well It was great having you guys on there 80 bands We're gonna definitely do some content in the future Good looking bro Love joy, it was great getting a little bit more information About what makes this guy tick You're definitely a welcome participant in this

LA hip-hop Soap opera. Yeah, they love me, man. Man, hey, look, I can do my shout-outs real fast. You know, I promise, my nigga, man. Hey, man, this that build-up break, you feel me, my boy, Lane. He made this, you feel me? We're going to, y'all cop that shit.

That's my boy, I promised you. Hey, shout out my mama. You know, I love my mama, man. Shout-out stack, man. Shout out of all the homies, man. Y'all know. Spiff, I told you, I'm a shot you out of here. You feel me?

And you know what's crazy? A real nigga. Look, I'm a real nigga. Look, I'm a real nigga. I'm a real nigga. going to do this, but the city of Lancaster has really pushed me and helped my career. So what I'm going to do right now, even though y'all be hating low-key, shout-shout because you on me, y'all help me and y'all help my career out a lot.

Like, you feel me? A lot of the DJs out there, fuck with me, a lot of the promoters. So I'm going to shout y'all out too on me. Niggins know what's up, man. I appreciate you. Shout out Adam, no jumping, dude. We should, man. Shut out of Lancaster.

Hit the like button if you're from Lancaster. Me. Or anywhere else. They'd be cracking out there. Appreciate you guys, for real. Much love. Thanks for coming on. Let's do it again sometime.

Let me know. Let's go. 600. I'm being in Miami, so you got to let me know. I'll book my flight. Okay. Back training. I'll be out here.

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