No Jumper - Chromazz Goes Off on Top5, Doing Onlyfans with Adam, Drake vs Kendrick & More
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Yeah, I got a little cold right now. It's really my vibe.
Really?
Yeah, I'm upset.
You got the purse on deck.
I need oregano oil.
What is that?
Oregano oil?
Yeah.
For when you're sick?
Is that a thing?
You squirt in your throat.
Yeah, it's good for everything.
Oregino oil?
Oh my God.
He didn't even care.
He gave me some like ginger shot with cayenne pepper the other day.
And it was, oof.
I love ginger sauce.
I'm sure it was on the company card.
Yeah?
Was it?
I'm just saying it f***s me up.
It was so intense.
I love it.
I happen almost every day.
Really?
It makes me feel a little drunk for like five minutes.
Really?
It makes me feel like, yeah, a little dizzy.
Those like the little pre-packaged ones you can buy out of the store?
I like to go to booster juice.
Do you guys have booster juice here?
I'm not really interacting with like the exotic juice side of the market.
You know, I just found out that I was taking Benadryl during an interview the other day,
and that's why I was falling asleep.
Oh, Drowsy?
Yeah, because I was trying to stop my nose from overflowing.
Some people take them to get high.
Yeah, in prison, I hear about that.
Yeah.
Not that I was in prison, but I hear about people doing it in there.
Really?
Yeah.
Like, dudes come out of, they're all weird because they're, like, taking too much Benadryl.
Yeah.
The kind of guys you hang out with, probably.
Institutional, they can't even deal with them.
Former prisoners.
Well, last time we did the interview, you were all talking about how you had a boyfriend who was in...
Yeah, I did.
He gave him a chance.
I'm sure that worked out great.
He came out, like, actually after our interview.
He came out a booty bandit?
No.
Is he going to kill me?
He's a Canadian, right?
He wants to kill me, too, so it's fine.
He probably can't travel here.
He can't.
That should be all right.
But, no, he came out, and he was so institutionalized.
Like, I had to break up with him.
Really?
Yes.
Like, what was the weirdest part about it?
Because he was already not very bright.
So when he came out, he was even dumber, and I'm like, holy fuck, I can't deal with
this shit anymore.
Dumb like just not talking or dumb like talking and having just like retarded prison
opinions about stuff.
No, kind of like not talking and just not getting shit.
It was just too out of it.
Yeah.
I think a lot of guys go into prison and they come out.
No, it's normal.
It's normal to come out and it feels weird.
You're like, what the fuck is life?
Like, is this real and stuff?
It's normal, but I just couldn't take it.
Like, I don't want to interact with anybody that doesn't look at Instagram and TikTok
every single day.
Because you're just not going to be.
TikTok.
But me neither, actually.
I'm just saying that for the camera.
But I look at Twitter and Instagram, actually.
But I'm just saying, like, if you're not really, like, in on everything that's going on
social media, I don't know how much we could really have in common.
Really?
Honestly, I don't look at social media.
I just look at, like, my own stories.
That doesn't really surprise me that you're that self-absorbed.
No, because, like, what the fuck?
I'm not a consumer.
There's not that many people that would say that.
And I would believe them.
But I believe that from you for sure.
Yeah, I just stalk my own stories.
I'm like, okay, who's watching, who's lurking.
See, I never look at that.
I look, yeah, I do.
Really?
Yeah.
What's like the last good one you saw in terms of your markers?
They're all good, but yeah, I just like to watch my own stories.
That's where you, like, hunt for boyfriends?
Where?
In your...
I don't have to hunt for boyfriends.
I'm actually single, though, for the first time.
Really?
And since I was 16, 17, so like a decade now.
And you're single for how long?
How long do you have to be single to be considered single?
Well, I've been single for seven months.
Wow. How do you do that? Like I'm sure you have a lot of suitors. Yeah, so I just feel like I'm 26 right so I just feel like it's now or never if I'm not single now. I don't want to be single when I'm 30
Okay, this is like my only chance to be single and then get serious soon but single like whoring it up on a day-to-day basis or single like actually not
With anybody I don't whore it up
Yeah, yeah, that's not what top five said who gives a fuck
what he said. Do you believe anything he says? Do you? When he said that him and his
croties were gang-manging you in the projects, I did-I-luckin-pirel. I like those fucking
purple guys get inside this post? Like be fucking real. Purple guys? Yeah. When he said
that they were gang-banging you, I did not believe him. I figured that was for the camera.
Okay. Like me saying, I look at TikTok. So I'll give you that. But I didn't edit it out of
the video either. Yeah, I know you didn't. But I made sure to say that I didn't believe him in the
video so that you couldn't sue me.
Yeah, I'm not gonna see you.
Absolutely not.
I don't whore it up.
That's why when people say like I'm a slut, I'm like, okay,
I've only fucked people in my fucking gang.
I don't gang hop around.
Like, there's no other gang in Toronto that can say like, yeah, they've had me.
An actual gang?
What do you mean?
Like a literal street gang or like people you are closely associated with?
My friend group.
Okay.
That feels incestuous.
Why?
How many guys could there possibly be in this friend group?
Well, did I say the whole friend group?
No.
No, but I'm saying it's like a pretty small pool to choose from.
How could you not be open to other suitors outside of that small little group?
Because I've been in steady relationships.
With the gang.
Not with the gang.
With gang members.
It's because I grew up with these people, right?
So I haven't actually been with someone who knew me like after I became chromas, you know?
I always been with people that's known me since I was like in high school.
The Nicki Minaj approach.
Definitely fucking not.
Okay, but she tried things with like a star rapper with Meek Mill
and then eventually went back to the guy she was dating
when she was in high school.
I don't know what the fuck her story is, but yeah.
Not a huge fan of her myself.
I'm just saying.
Yeah.
That like, I always find that interesting
that she kind of went back to somebody
that knew her when she was normal.
Yeah.
Not to.
But she's like taking care of him, no, no?
Oh, I would kind of assume there's probably some element.
It is what it is.
Honestly, that's why I'm working so hard because I don't want to date for money.
I want to just date who I want.
Yeah, but at a certain point, doesn't money, like a big part of what makes a guy appealing?
Like, when you're young, you're looking at guys based on their potential.
And I feel like you get a little older and you start thinking, like, if you're 35 and you ain't made a couple million yet, I don't know.
Step it up, guys.
It's either you have it in you or not.
I don't like right now if I'm gonna date someone I'm not gonna I'm gonna date a guy that I see potential and I'm not gonna date a guy because a lot of these guys with money they're just losers and they think they're cool because they have some money and then the guys who aren't losers they're already taken because they're great guys you know they already thank you no I wasn't talking about you but um why does you have an old video camera you guys make an escape video huh this is a TRV 900 I had one of those when I was in high school I should bring it back out really wow
That's insane.
Okay.
But so what was the last breakup like?
The one that created single chrome ass.
Shout us all my 35 year olds with no money too also.
I fuck with you.
Yeah.
I'm just kind of trying to see the world from her perspective.
Yeah.
Obviously I have options, right?
But yeah, a lot of these guys are fucking losers.
I'm not into it.
Yeah.
But the last guy.
Did he damage you to the point where you're like,
I can't love again?
No, no, not at all
He's still my homie
Okay
How long was that relationship though?
Three years
Okay
Damn, that's quite a while
It's almost as long since we lasted an interview
I think the last one was four years ago
Yeah
So yeah
Okay
So like what
What are you
Like how many guys are you dating
At this time
Like do you have a whole little
Thing going on
You're just like waiting for them
I like to flirt for sport, but I don't, like, go out with them.
So, okay, you're one of those girls where you'll get a guy's number.
You'll keep them on the hook.
You'll text them and shit.
But when it comes to hang out, maybe you go out to dinner, but then he doesn't get it to come back to your place.
Yeah.
I just like to flirt.
I'm just like a little flirt.
This is fun.
Okay.
So you're not, like, sex-driven?
No.
Would you say you're not really, like, horny?
Because some girls really just want to.
a lot and some girls I feel like want to
because they're looking for a boyfriend or
even just connection. Yeah,
I would say no, which is kind of sad,
right? I don't think it's not out of
the ordinary though. Really?
I think it's because like
just how I grew up
and so I was 18, I worked at a massage parlor
in Toronto. So I think just like, you know,
faking it for like,
you know what I mean? Pretending to be like
overtly sexual. Yeah, like I have to be
really like turned on by a guy.
and like super respect him for like for me to actually like want to get down okay like with my
ex was like four times I did because he's so horny so was that torturous for you no
I was happy because I'm like okay he's not like watching porn or you know going and looking for
it somewhere else like he wants this so so you just bend over and just think about something else
no it turns me on to like um be kind of used really
Yeah.
Wow, that's a pretty good attribute.
Be used a little, but like I have to respect the guy.
You know what I mean?
Four times a day.
That's like a part-time job.
Yeah.
Even if he's like a five-minute man.
Still, it's like a...
I love five-minute men.
Yeah.
Half-hour man, no good?
No.
He's sore.
Yeah.
That's...
Fussy too sore.
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Welcome back, Kromaz.
Hi.
We're doing the relationship talk before we even do the intro.
That's unheard of.
Yeah.
Okay, why are you in LA?
I had an audition.
I've seen this for Baywatch.
Yeah.
That's exciting.
Yeah.
So Baywatch is currently on the air.
I think I kind of knew that.
Oh, they're bringing it back.
Yeah, they're bringing it back.
Really?
And what made you want to audition for this?
It's like a childhood dream to get to wear the red one-piece swimsuit?
No, so I'm going to act in school now.
Oh.
So I want to be a big actress, and Baywatch is an iconic show.
Uh-huh.
So, I'm like, yeah, let's do it. Let's audition.
It is. Wow, that's exciting, man.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie.
Like, my first wet dream was thinking about Pamela Anderson and Carmen Elektra in the Baywatch
outfit.
Yeah.
When I was, like, 12.
Yeah, and also, I feel like they need to bring, like, super hot girls back.
Like, there's always, like, TV now's not the same.
It's not, like, crazy.
The girls aren't hot enough.
Yeah, the new girls are not hot enough.
They need to, like, bring it back.
You got to watch Tell Me Lies.
Tell Me Lies.
Grace Van Patton.
The hottest chick on TV.
I'm sorry.
I'm obsessed with her.
Really? Is that a college show?
It is. Yeah. Okay, I heard about it.
It's like euphoria, but for like drunk college kids.
Okay, so it makes more sense because it's college.
Yeah, you don't have to like check yourself and be like Sydney Sweeney, but she's like playing a 17-year-old.
Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Tell me the eyes.
So have you done like a bunch of auditions in Canada or like, is this like the first major show that you kind of came out for?
Or what's this process like?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just I'm still in school right now, so I have to go back because it's every day, so I miss kind of this a week.
Do you feel like it's making you a better communicator? Like, how does active school improve you as a person?
As a person, I think it's a great way to like escape what you're going through.
So.
Because I feel like you're like communicating better right now.
Well, I'm older.
Yeah, that probably helps you.
woman yeah that's good way older so that's all you're doing is focused on active school or like what
else is going on in your life that's basically it i'm putting my all into this and and how long have you been
doing it for like a year now and you've already done the audition part of this baywatch thing yeah was
yesterday and how was it it was just like a million other hot girls not really like i was the hottest one
there was other like kind of good looking but um not nothing crazy really yeah i like that you like
get your own hotness you feel like you can fairly compare yourself to other girls well I
always think I'm the best to be honest I've never looked at a girl and been like she's hotter than me
well a lot of hot girls like won't acknowledge that they're hot they're kind of always playing the fake
fake humility role hell no no that's not you I love being hot it's like my whole thing
when I last interview you were still kind of all in on the rapper dream though yeah
That's like a backseat?
Basically, I figured out that I don't want to make a living out of it.
Like, I still do music.
I still do music videos, but I'm not into the whole, like, do shows.
And, like, I don't want to be full time in that because I realized that, like, it's better for me to be a team player.
Like, an actress is, you know, you're part of a project and you're a team player and you, you know, help the project come to life and stuff.
and being a rapper is kind of like it's your project
so you have to like...
It's all about you.
Yeah.
I think the rapper dream is dead.
For me?
No, for everyone.
Really?
Like, everybody used to have this fake idea in their head
that they were going to be able to make all this money being a rapper
and now it feels like almost nobody believes that,
including pretty popular rappers.
Even they don't want to drop music because they know it's going to do bad.
Exactly.
Tons of top or successful rappers are streaming.
It's just not the same many.
anymore, you know? Yeah. It's kind of sad. Like, I wonder if it's going to come back or...
I hope it does. Or what replaces that, you know? Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird world.
Well, streaming kind of replaced it. It's like all these streamers stars now.
But a lot of the big rappers that are trying to be streamers are failing miserably.
Yeah, I tried to be a streamer. I fucking hated it.
Were you, like, sitting by on the computer? Or were, like, going out and about.
I did both, but I just hated it because all my viewers were like just fucking horny guys.
And I'm like, and I didn't really have anything to talk about.
Like, I didn't have like, um, like you see how Candace she talks about like politics and stuff.
Like I just was like being hot on camera.
Don't be Candace owns.
That's not.
No, but I'm saying I didn't have like a niche, you know.
It was just funny guys watching me.
And I'm like, oh my God.
But look how much streaming fucks up your brain is that in search of views she's now trying to convince everybody that her, her former, you know, friend Charlie Kirk was like killed by his own wife.
Do you think that's because of views?
you don't think she's just a good person
and wants to know the truth
I don't think she really believes that
No I mean I don't believe it
I don't think she's like presented evidence
That would make anybody believe it
Yeah well her fans believe it
I know and that's the fucked up part is that
That conspiracy theories are so popular
That it's like
I love conspiracy theory
I bet you do
That it's just like more valuable
As a content creator to put forth
like crazy conspiracy theories
Than to like be a sane person
Who's weighing information
and trying to actually seek out the truth.
Yeah, see, that's why I'm not on Instagram and TikTok
because, like, I don't want to be a consumer
and be in these fucking little groups.
I rather just watch TV and watch my own stories and shit.
But TV, like, find TV more attractive
than, like, finding out about people that are actually real people.
You, like, need to see, like, scripted content or what?
Yeah.
It's art.
That's why I'm being an actress because I love the art.
You're kind of a throwback.
That's why it makes sense for you to be on Baywatch,
is that you have this, like, old school mentality
of like, I don't want, I only care about myself and TV.
Yeah, literally.
That's why I haven't done reality.
Everyone's like, oh my God, like you'd blow up if you do reality.
I'm like, hell no, that's like last resort.
You've had those offers?
Of course.
Really?
Yeah, because everyone's like, oh, your personality, you'd kill it.
Like, hell no.
What's the biggest platforms, like Zeus?
Or is that, that's like black women exclusively?
What the fuck is Zeus?
You don't know what Zeus is?
No.
Zeus is huge.
I don't watch reality TV either.
Only like Jersey.
Shore. Sometimes I run a buck.
The old shit, like from
20 years ago? Yeah, because
I was like a part of my childhood. I was
like in grade 8, I think, or grade 5,
some shit like that. I also
loved Jersey Shore. But then
I don't know what they've been doing for like the last
15 years. They have a new one, but I
don't want to watch that one. Yeah, I mean,
it was fun when they were in their 20s
and they were raw and now it's like
they're old as fuck.
I went to a porn house recently
and there was a girl had like a big bottle of like
Jay Wow
bronzing oil
And I was like
What's a porn house?
Just like a house that they rent out for people to do porn in
Oh
And then where you guys go?
Sometimes
But then like they're like some
Some of the rooms
Like strippers or like porn stories who live in them
And then they're like not allowed to be in the house during the day
And I like went into one of the rooms
And there was like an open white monster
And a big jug of Jaywow tanning oil
That's how women live
That's crazy
It's fucked right
Yeah
Um
Okay
There's so many different ways
We could go with this conversation
Kromaz
Okay well
Let's just get the elephant out of the room
Last time I seen you
We kind of made history
Yeah
Shook the world
Yeah
You tell me what happened
Okay
We shot like your most
Adult piece of content ever
Yes
Yes we did
And then after that
You never did it up still
I know
They all bring it out.
To me too. When I was in Toronto, people were stopping me on the street.
Yeah.
Cromaz.
Yeah. People think I sucked your dick and like we fucked.
You were pretty close, but no, you didn't.
I did not.
It was a tit job for the record for the people out there.
I think it was supposed to be a foot job at one point, wasn't it?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it was weird because like...
That was a disaster.
What was the disaster part?
Like me.
I need to run it back.
I need to go find that.
What?
You thought you didn't do a good job?
job? Um, so basically, okay, so this is, people always ask me like, do you regret it? Okay.
Okay. My answer is yes. Okay. But at the moment, it felt like the right move for me because, okay, so this is what happened.
Uh-huh. I had started OnlyFans. I was doing so well, whatever. I bought my Mama Crib. I got all these
fucking commitments and then I lost my
Instagram boom you know how that can affect
your fucking only fans oh okay so
I was like hurting out
here okay so I was in
LA I was working poker games
to just like maintain
and then I'm like Adam
and his girl they do
amazing on only fans
they can help me right
yeah so we so I did that
and also I was heavily
medicated during those times
oh my God you're not supposed to say that
Huh? Why?
It just makes it sound weird because I didn't know that.
No, I'm not saying you knew that.
Medicaid or like what? Like pills?
Like I was doing benders at these poker games.
It was like, you know, not getting sleep, like doing five perks, like just not being a healthy.
Not being a healthy person.
This is viral.
Not in a good way.
Five perks sounds in six.
Five thirties?
Can't you tell?
I look like way better now.
Like I take, I wasn't taking care of myself.
I was like in a.
I mean, I thought it looked pretty good been, too.
Depressive state.
Yeah, I'm glad that I could have been a part of that.
When you're hot, you can do five perks and still kind of look okay.
These are tens or thirties?
Anyways, so, yeah.
So actually that day I came off a bender.
I was working the night before.
Okay.
And off the urchies.
Wow.
I'm so glad I could have been a part of this.
I mean, because that's the weird thing is that sometimes we do scenes with girls.
Like, we've had to cancel scenes because girls were, like, visibly drunk.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
But like we had no idea that you were doing anything at that time.
No, I can hold it together.
Like I can be with like you and like a fat, big guy and I'll drink you guys.
Oh yeah?
So drinking's like your specialty?
Very strong body.
I love to drink.
Really?
I always stay healthy enough so I can have a cocktail shot.
So you know, that's like, you know, people, drinking was more of like old school thing.
I feel like people don't drink like they used to.
No.
I love to drink.
Okay.
But that scene
Like my memory is that you were kind of like
Changing the direction of it
Like at one point it's supposed to be a foot job
And then it's like a tit job
But you had like pasties on your nipples
Like stars
Definitely half stepping
Okay so you were like not 100% sure
So you thought like I'll do this
Because it's not like actual porn
Yeah
Yeah exactly
Okay did you regret it like immediately
Or did it take a while for you to be like
That was not what I want to do with my life
Well, when I seen, I'm like, I wish we did it better, like, a better location and like, you know, like, I wish we did.
Yeah.
We had to send everybody home.
Like, I just wish it looked harder.
Like when I look, like, I don't even want to look at the video.
I'm like, ill.
I want to look at it.
I was like, I can't believe I didn't look at it in the lead up to this.
Like, I wish it was fresh in my mind.
Yeah.
Wow.
I don't even want to look at the video.
But, yeah, I just wish it looked hotter and just like more tasteful.
Okay.
You know, because it is like one of my only videos.
Right. But so after that, did you immediately swear off that kind of content? You're like, I don't want to do this anymore?
Yeah, because my manager was in contact with you, right? And he's like, yo, like, when are you going to go back and do more? I'm like, not.
Right, because at that time, we were supposed to like sign you and manage you because at that time, we had just signed Skybury and she exploded.
Yeah. And so we're thinking like, oh my God, we got Chromeaz now. This is going to be the next version of it.
Yeah, I just didn't want to step in like fully. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I respect it.
But what did you then go do with their life in like the year after that?
I was still drinking.
Like when I came back to Toronto,
I was still drinking and doing drugs and being with like a bad boyfriend.
And it's kind of lost in the sauce.
Like just kind of living day by day.
The bad boyfriends seem like they've kind of dragged you down
throughout a lot of different parts of your life.
Yeah.
See, my most recent ex-use good.
He was really good for me.
But the last two, yeah.
not really good okay I think it's because you keep dating like within the same incestuous little
circle you know yeah right so my ex wasn't in the same circle like my most recent ex wasn't in
the same circle but he was actually cellies with my ex before him what the f f did six months together
cellmates that's even more incestuous but I didn't know that until after what damn
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So they weren't,
it wasn't like same circle,
but yeah.
So,
okay,
but then the additional layer of drama to that
is that around the same time
that we were trying to sign you
to the only fans contract,
academics had tried to
or maybe successfully signed you
to like a music contract to her false.
He was trying to sign me,
but I didn't go through with it
because it was like,
it was like he was more interested
in getting a percentage of my only fans
because obviously he knows if he's posting me every day,
my only fans is going to go crazy.
So he was more like,
and I'm like,
this is kind of like sketchy.
Like,
why is this like your main kind of,
you know,
thing in mind right now?
360 deal.
Yeah.
So I never,
I mean,
it makes,
so you would have signed the music deal,
but then.
I'm down to break bread.
Like,
obviously,
like I get it.
Like you're putting,
like,
you're bringing all these fans to my only fans.
But it just seemed at that point,
like,
that's what the main thing in his head was.
So I'm like,
I can't trust,
like,
to do business with someone like this.
I mean, it makes a lot of sense from his perspective because if you sign someone to a music deal,
the idea is that over the course of multiple years, you're going to become profitable.
Whereas with the only fans thing, it's like immediately, you're taking your percentage of like
hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.
Yeah.
Damn.
But so is that kind of the end of you and Ack having anything to do with each other or what?
No, the end, that was fine.
It was whatever.
The end is him just like riding fucking top five's dick and then going on his fucking stream
and saying, oh, she's a bad.
Treating and thinking he's fucking all cool and shit like don't be don't try act cute like you're not cute like so you wanted him
You wanted him to like defend you no don't defend me but just don't don't be spreading lies about me and then you know if I call you a waste you try to act sick and then get mad that I'm calling you a waste you like you're fucking waste you're lying on me
Waste you translates to like just a loser yeah waste man okay
It was like old slang but I haven't heard it a long time yeah so okay at what at what point were you
And then he, like, tried to expose me saying I slept with all these people.
Draco the ruler.
I love Draco.
Like, that was not cool.
His girlfriend at the time.
He said that you had his abortion.
Yes, I know he said that.
And is that cap?
That's crazy, yes.
And if it wasn't cap, I would still lie about it.
Like, hello.
His girlfriend literally messaged me saying, like, is this true?
She's like heartbroken that her man just died and asking me if this is true, like,
fucking up her head.
I'm like, absolutely not.
It's not true.
Wow.
The fuck.
Like that's horrible how are you gonna do that to someone?
Did you ever even like hang out with him?
Yeah, okay studio.
You went to the studio once?
Like both times I came to LA but always like people were there
It wasn't like no weird old shit like just me and him
Okay
But you think he like just made that up out of thin air
Because he was trying to go at you or?
I think um well I was in New York
With Ack at the time
And I think I was messaging Draco or something
And we were talking about him
And I was just saying
Because I did think he was attractive
Like I like that body type and what big lean belly big yeah
Well not anymore but that was my type before like before I used to like fat niggas now I like
I'm different what just skinny or muscular or skinny just some like kind of fighter body fighter body yeah okay
If I was a girl I think I would probably go with that too yeah but that used to be my type before at the time so I think I was just talking and saying like yeah like he's hot or whatever
Okay damn that's fucking
That's a crazy scenario right there.
How'd you feel when you heard Gregor Dot?
I felt sad.
I was in L.A.
when it happened.
I felt sad, especially because he was messaging me a few days before to, like, hang out or something.
Would you say you were, like, flirting with him?
I'm always flirting.
Did it have a potential that it could have turned into a real thing?
No.
Because I think if we would have went all the way, I think he would have just, like,
fuck me.
Like, I'm from Toronto.
He's from L.A.
I don't think, like, our lives would have.
changed. You know, and I kind of know that. I'm not like, um, I don't get sniped. I don't let these
rappers like snipe me. What's snipe me in this scenario? Like they fuck you and then that's it.
That's it. No. So if you fuck me, you have to have to wife me have to have, he would have
probably at least tried to hold on for a while. I think so. I mean, maybe not like permanently,
but yeah, but he had a girlfriend though, too. A lot of us have girlfriends. I have a wife.
I have a wifey. How's that going? Oh, that's good. Yeah. Really? You can't complain, yeah. You guys are
odd.
Why?
You want to get into it?
Yeah.
Okay.
My wife does not care for you
because of a specific comment that you left on a post.
And I personally think you guys could probably
get past it. It probably depends on how you handle this
line of questioning. But it
was when this scenario happened
with Emily Willis where she overdosed
and basically ended up in the
hospital as far as I know, she's still
nonverbal. It's a pretty sad
situation. Yeah, it's very sad.
And you left to comment basically saying something like, wow, that's so sad and to know that she already like embarrassed her family by doing porn.
No, I didn't say embarrassed.
Hey, yes, I probably said that.
What I mean when I said that is like, yo, like it's so sad for the family.
Like you're already kind of a disappointment to your family.
Well, assuming that her family had that viewpoint on porn.
That's true.
I'm just saying from my perspective.
And then now you're like a burden to them.
It's like, like, how shit are you?
Like, fuck.
Like, you're already doing porn.
Now you're doing so much drugs and you can't even talk.
But you saying that right after she experienced an overdose that, you know, basically left her.
I don't even know how sad it is for the family, though.
Yeah, but I guess like you being somebody that's also done at least some adult content, that that could be conceived or perceived as like very rude.
Yeah, it would be the same thing.
It would be so sad.
Like, I'd be like such a shit.
shitty person. If I were to like, just overdose and leave my family, like,
but do you think your parents are, like, embarrassed of you right now?
Um, probably my dad. Okay. Like, we have a good relationship, but obviously, like,
I don't think he agrees with the whole OnlyFans thing. Okay. But you're, like,
not really doing anything super sexual on there, are you? Well, when my first nudes got leaked,
it got leaked before my OnlyFans and my dad didn't talk to me for a year. Wow.
Yeah. And also that comment, yes, I meant it. I meant it. Yeah, it's a little harsh. But I've been told before that I'm not emotionally intelligent. Like, because I just say shit and people like...
You are very blunt. Yeah, like I'm very blunt. But I truly mean it. And it is sad. And hopefully she can... Like, what is she, she's like paralyzed from it or...
From what I understand, she can't speak and she's not paralyzed, but she's... Like she can move and stuff?
Yeah, but she's not going to be able to hold the job or do really almost anything.
That's awful.
Yeah, it's terrible.
That's probably why my wife and like some other people that I spoke to were pretty upset about that.
Yeah, she commented back.
You think you're so much better because you didn't suck my husband's dick.
I'm like, okay, you don't have to get your fucking husband involved.
And yeah, I do think I'm better.
Like, I think everyone should think they're better.
All right.
But it just seems like a weird time to basically use a.
But as a moment to like virtue signal and be like, well, you did real porn and I just do naked stuff on OnlyFans.
So therefore, your family is going to be disappointed in you.
No, I'm just saying it's so shit.
Like imagine just, but put yourself in the family situation.
That's what I was doing.
I'm like, it's so shit.
Like, you know what I mean?
If I was her dad.
At least if my daughter's doing porn, at least like rake it in, like, you know what I mean?
Like, do it for.
Okay.
And then you get fucking overdose because you're doing so much just fucking drugs.
the trauma of knowing that your daughter overdosed and is probably not going to really have
much of a life going forward to me like it wouldn't be magnified by the fact that you did
porn before that like I'm assuming her family loved her regardless of if they agreed with
a thousand percent but it's just a shitty situation because it's like like yeah just a shitty situation
yeah I don't really feel like this conversation's gonna soothe anything on that end I'm not a bad person
I know what I said is kind of shitty.
I won't, I'm not denying it.
But like, that's what I would think.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're so shit.
Like, why'd you fucking have to do drugs?
Yeah, but I mean, a lot of people overdose, right?
Like, I have tons of friends who died from overdoses.
Yeah.
She's unlucky because she got stuck in limbo there.
You know, like, if I was her family, I probably would have rather she just passed than
be sort of stuck where she's at now.
And they're in this terrible position of, like, do you pull the,
plug I don't even think you can like legally you can do that that's what I said that's what I said in my
comment I'm like she did all this now she's like just like a burden to her family like that's
horrible yeah it is pretty shitty I just feel like you kind of like reveling in it like that was
probably what I wasn't shitting on her like trying to like you know what I mean I'm not doing that
mm-hmm not not an evil person do you find do you end up in a lot of situations like this
though you kind of say stuff that is your actual opinion but it doesn't really go over well
Everyone always tells me it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Yeah, that's true.
Yes, and my friends tell me, like, you're not emotionally intelligent.
Like, you don't realize, like, what's okay and what's not.
Give me another example of a time that this hasn't worked that well for you.
Like what I've said?
Or you just said something that kind of, like, blew people's minds that you, uh...
Well, I can't really think of something crazy, but I'll give you a situation with me and this girl that are no longer friends anymore.
Someone we know or...
No.
Just a random situation.
anyways so me and this girl we were really good friends or whatever she starts um sleeping with one of
my friends okay that's a guy obviously and then whatever she's liking him and whatever they
f***ed obviously and then he goes to jail when my friends gets arrested and the last time she's
seen him was two weeks ago and she's like oh my god she's like do you think I'm the last girl he
f***s I'm like no he's a man like it's been two weeks like what the
And she was saying like, oh, you don't validate my sexual experiences, you don't blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, oh, my Lord, I can't deal with this.
Were you closer to the guy or to her?
Because if you're really close to her, you can be honest and just tell her the truth.
I've known her for my whole life.
Okay.
But I've known him since I was like 15.
I mean, if you know for a fact that he's the kind of guy, this is fucking whoever, then I don't really see that being that bad.
But she's saying that's what she said.
She's like, it's not.
Like what you say, it's how you say it.
Like I'm like saying like no.
Like obviously not like, you know.
So.
Well, he went to jail but like for a long time.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess I could see how that would be upsetting.
But it's like are you supposed to keep his secret in order to cushion her feelings?
That's how I'm not doing all that.
Yeah.
So that's like just like one little example that happens a lot.
Right.
I have a friend who saw one of my other friends the other day and he said, wow, you put on some weight, huh?
Yeah.
Because he gained like 20, 30 pounds.
Like, would you do that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm another friend.
I don't really understand why that's like the one thing you can't say to someone.
Well, you should be able to say it to men for real.
For a girl, I kind of understand.
But like, if I were to say it to one of my girlfriends, I would just say it in privacy.
I wouldn't say like in front of everyone.
But I'd be like, excuse me.
Like, can you stop eating for a month?
Because it's getting bad.
That's what you would say?
Yes.
To the girl.
I wish.
Yes.
And I have said it to one of my girls.
friends before like recently and she's actually on a diet now you need to stop it's weird because
it's like okay if you'd walked in here and you gained a hundred pounds then I would have the right
to be like concerned about your health but do you walk in here and you gain like 10 pounds it's like
whatever no I just wish like my family so last time you see me I was 20 pounds heavier okay
and I kind of stayed like that until recently I lost a lot of weight in September I cut out carbs and
stuff completely and my family would tell me but I didn't know I was like very blindsided because
I thought I was still hot.
And now when I look at myself, like, videos of a year ago, I'm like, oh, my God,
I was so fat.
I wish my family was like, they were harsh, but I wish they were harsher.
But I knew.
Do you think if you gain 20 pounds right now that you would be, like, completely unattractive?
Because I think almost every guy out there would be totally willing to accept you 20 pounds
heavier.
I was 20 pounds.
You're not even going to be, like, fat.
Let's see a year.
Yeah, but like.
A lot of guys would prefer you 20 pounds heavier.
It's a significant difference.
Okay.
Hunting through her.
photos.
It's a year ago today.
Like you can tell like I'm just wider, face everything.
Oh, you look great.
Oh, it's horrible.
I wouldn't say horrible.
I mean.
No, but it's just like.
You probably could get more modeling work right now,
but I would say that like, you're still like pretty good there.
Too much.
Like crazy.
My God, your tits look huge.
Yeah, my tits lost a lot of volume with my weight loss.
Wow.
So yeah.
But my family was like, what the fuck's going on?
Like, this is your career.
Did you like, did you, did you, did you, did you?
eat 20 year old Janessa,
would be like,
what's going on?
What the fuck?
I mean,
that is something that,
like,
I feel like my family,
I would have to gain
like a dangerous amount of weight
for them to say anything
about my weight.
Really?
But you're a guy.
Yeah, I know,
but I'm just saying,
like, in general,
it's kind of considered
pretty rude.
No, my family.
My mom would show me,
like pictures of myself
when I was 14,
she'd be like,
look how skinny you were.
And I'm like,
you should not do that
to your daughter,
for sure.
Why?
Because it's going to give her,
The body image issues.
I love it.
I think it's so funny.
Like we're very calculated and careful with how we talk to our daughter about food
just because we don't want her to like get into this sort of mentality
that like your value is based on like how skinny you are or something, you know?
Granted she's five, so it's going to.
You need to take care of yourself.
I think as long as you put her in like dance or sports, she'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah.
As long as she's active.
I'm just saying that that photo you just showed me is not like dangerous level
chromaz.
It's like if you gained 80 pounds.
And that's like a point of no return.
My family didn't want me to get to a point of no return.
If you get 80 pounds, you go to the doctor, the doctor's going to tell you to lose weight.
So that's kind of like a different territory.
Yeah, but even when you put my stats in before, because right now I weigh 127.
I was weighing like 145 to 148 in those in that video.
If you put my stats in with my height, it says you're overweight.
I think the difference between you and my wife is that she has body image issues,
but she recognizes that as being a net negative in her life.
that she thinks is a bad thing
and that you seem like you're just pretty like chill with it.
But you're like, yeah, of course I want to be hot.
A thousand and ten percent.
I do kind of appreciate the realism there.
Yeah, no, my whole thing.
If I wasn't hot, I'd be so depressed.
It's just like a huge part of your self-image.
Yes, yes.
But how do you deal with the fact that like one day,
whether it's when you're 40 or 50?
I think every woman.
hits this wall at some point where they just start to be where they're just not
considered as attractive as they were when they were younger and a lot of women have to
deal with that it's like it's a difficult thing to go through but that's what I'm
preparing for now like I go to Pilates every day I work out so I'm gonna I'm not gonna
be like a flabby I'll look older but I'll still be hot for my age no matter what
and I'm not gonna look older than age it is upsetting that I know you're gonna be
hot as shit when you're 45 yeah yeah my mom's 50 my mom looks really good she has
no work done like I'll probably when I'm older and get some shit
So I look younger.
So you haven't any work done?
My lips.
Just lips.
No lipa.
No.
No BBL ever.
No.
Okay.
No boo.
No boob job.
Okay.
Because I'm not going to lie when you walked in here.
I was kind of stunned by your ass to waste ratio.
I was like, how the fuck is that a real thing?
It looks crazier than the last time I was sell you for sure.
Really?
Yeah.
I'm not trying to be too pervy or anything.
I've been taking care of myself.
I've been very like vain.
Like before, I think, um, like when you.
seen me last. I was very just like I just thought it was hot and I thought I didn't have to like try and
like maintain so I wasn't doing gym or watching what I eat. It was just drinking like not taking
respecting my body. I mean when you're 21 it's pretty easy to just coast by on genetics. Yeah.
You get a little older. And I started falling off. I gained 20 pounds and I'm like okay enough is enough.
It also stands out that like the last time we did. I think you were wearing like a very large pink
chrome hearts sweatshirt. That was our first interview.
But I'm just saying that's not really like intended to make you look super high, right?
Yeah, there I wasn't 20 pounds over though.
Oh, okay.
I was still skinny there.
It's just like how your dress now is clearly like kind of you're trying to look good.
Whereas at that time.
It's kind of just regular shit.
Yeah.
But you just fitted stuff.
I mean, if you did like the low cut top, I guess that would be more clickbait.
More clickbait.
And then like almost immediately as I was kind of like looking at your ass, you were like, damn, you got thick.
and pointing out the, like, I forget what you said.
You're like, damn, you got a big ass.
Like your ass looking fat.
Yeah, for a second I was like,
she just said that her ass is looking fat,
or was she saying my ass is looking fat?
Which I am wearing some, like, kind of baggy jeans today, so.
It looks high, like a Somalian.
When I got married, I was 215.
Right now I'm 240.
Yeah, but you're a guy.
I know, but I'm not happy about this.
I'm trying to, like, really shed the extra 25.
So what are you going to do about it?
I've been eating a lot cleaner and just working out a little bit more.
Okay, nice.
Yeah, it's been steadily coming off after the boxing match.
What boxing match?
You didn't see this.
You don't look at Instagram, so that's good.
You didn't see me get my ass kicked.
No, by who?
A very large black man, Jason Love.
Oh.
Yeah.
You guys fought?
Yeah.
Well, he fought.
That was just kind of receiving end.
Why?
Did you train for it?
Yeah, but I only had two weeks.
I only had two weeks.
So this is...
But it was pretty bad, yeah.
How did you feel after?
Just kind of glad it was over.
Yeah?
Yeah.
How were like the Instagram memes and stuff?
Pretty intense, you know?
I didn't really care.
What did Lena say?
I think she was just glad it was over too.
Whatever.
At least you fought, right?
Like you weren't on the floor in fetal?
Well, it was a boxing match.
So like by the time you hit the floor in the fetal.
actual match.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
No, we didn't just fight in the streets.
No.
That would have been cool too.
No, yeah, it was like a real.
I did for money.
That's harder then because you have to like follow rules.
Yeah, I couldn't like, kick him in the nuts or anything.
It would have been frowned upon.
I love to fight dirty.
When's last time we were going to fight?
Actually, me and my, oh no, I don't want to get my mom in trouble, but you and your mom got
in a fight together.
No, I would never hit my mom.
No, but I mean like you beat up some girls together?
Okay, I got into a fight actually like two weeks ago.
Where?
Baby shower.
What?
That's like the most inappropriate place you could fight.
Yeah.
What happened?
Okay, so this fucking older woman, she comes up to me.
I'm showing my nails to someone.
It's actually these same nails.
And she's like, she's like my mom's age.
She's like, what are you stroking with those nails?
You need long nails like these.
She had these like ratchet ass long red nails.
And was she attacking you for being a slut or was she just hating on your nails?
She was just hating on the nails.
But I was, I was drunk and I didn't drink for seven weeks.
So I was in a good mood.
So I was like, oh, yeah, ha, ha, ha.
So I was like, you know, just viving, like agreeing with her.
And about five minutes go by.
I'm taking a shot at the shower.
And I see her across the room and I go like this to her, like kind of like just showing her my nails.
And then she's like, who the fuck are you?
And I'm like.
You think she was drunk?
She was-
Sounds drunk.
Yes.
Okay.
Obviously she didn't remember.
I'm like, excuse me.
Just doesn't seem like something a sober person would say.
Yes, I said, excuse me, do you not realize we had a conversation five minutes ago?
Uh-huh.
And she's like, oh, I'm sorry.
And my mom's like, what?
What happened?
Another drunk person?
Your mom was drunk too?
We're all, it's a Latin baby shower.
I've been to a lot of baby showers and never has anyone been drunk.
What?
Okay.
You need some Latinos in your life.
Yeah, that's real.
Yeah.
And it was, um, it was my mom's best friend's daughter.
So basically, like, my cousin, who's not my cousin.
So it was, like, a big thing.
Like, she's having a baby, her first baby.
She's, like, my age.
Anyways, so I was like, why are you talking my daughter like this?
Well, after me and the girl already, like, she said sorry to me, whatever.
And then the girl's, like, ratchet as, this ratcher older Spanish woman.
And she's talking, and she has her hands in my mom's face.
And my mom's, like, don't, like, get your hands out of my fucking face.
And I'm like, I got you, mommy.
And I just started cooking her, cooking her, cooking her, cooking her.
And did it get broken up immediately or?
Yes.
Wow.
I mean, did you do like serious damage to her?
Yeah, she's like, I want to see my face.
I want to see my face.
Wow.
That's insane.
Yeah, and then she had to go home.
You got to stay.
Obviously.
Duh.
Well, like, just star power?
No.
Well, kind of.
It's my mom's best friend's house, right?
Hmm.
So.
All right.
You ready for this?
Yeah.
So I text Drake.
yesterday I said I'm gonna interview Kromaz in case you want to spill some tea I thought
maybe he would like tell me in confidence some grimy shit I could ask you about right
that's one of my actual gang members I love her I love him too how are you guys that
tight I didn't know it was like that if you ask any girl in Toronto they all think that
they're best friends he's such a charming guy and he makes everyone feel special okay but I'm like
real bitch I'm not like these other bitches you know so hopefully he he probably sees that and
did you actually fucks with me for real she saved my life once what is that in reference to
i don't want to talk about that i didn't ask him to elaborate on it i was kind of hoping it would
but he didn't no i don't want to talk about that but um yeah he said that i saved his life
is that an exaggeration or from his perspective no really yeah i mean doesn't even like a team a bodyguard
around him. I feel like other people are in charge of saving his life.
Yeah, but um.
It's got to be a metaphor, right?
I love him. That's my fucking dog.
Yeah, because then I sent him a picture you're sitting here and he said, my fucking heart.
Yeah.
He really is a lover boy, huh?
Yeah, he is. He's so charming. He's very charming.
Yeah, I mean, that is the one weird thing about him is that, like, I would assume he's, like,
half the hot babes on earth.
Yeah.
But they never, they never come out with the negative story.
Yeah, because he makes everyone feel like they're tight and makes like he's very good.
That seems almost impossible to pull off from my perspective.
Like every dude out here who's fucking a ton of chicks has had the scandals where they come out and talk crazy about him.
I'm telling you, every hot girl that you see in Toronto, if you ask him, they'll be like, oh my God, he's my best friend.
Like, then they actually, like, believe it.
Really?
Yeah.
I can't even imagine how you could possibly manage that.
I've met so many girls and he sends like the same text.
He'll be like, yo, I think you're actually.
my wife like crazy shit should we see if he wants to weigh in here that's why that's why if he
ever texts me some shit like that I'm like you don't even mean it like you say this to
everyone so you're that's your tactic is to just kind of I don't have a tactic I just don't take
what he says seriously I don't know I feel like if you had anything remotely negative to say about
you who would have let me know I don't think there's anything negative to say about me but I'm just
saying when he says like stuff like you're my heart i'm not like these girls that are like oh my god like
you know what i mean yeah just like he's just being like you know like me a flirt for sport yeah i mean
my hat's off to him because i apparently doesn't want to be part of this podcast but i just
i feel like as soon as you get famous you just need to like wipe up the nearest woman to you and just
be very very careful about where you put your because every woman you fuck is a liability it's like
lawsuit it's a headache waiting to happen it's just you got to be super careful as soon as you blow up
apparently he's found his way around that he needs to settle down though yeah i've wondered many times
like how that would work for him i don't think it's going to to be honest but you know they'll ever do
it i can't see it to be honest but hopefully he does i mean because the thing is it's like if he's
waiting for the right girl it's like nobody's met more girls yeah nobody's been around more baddies
Yeah.
Like, what could he be waiting for?
Maybe he just loves the lifestyle.
He likes being alone when he wants to be alone
and playing house when he wants to.
I feel like also he's somebody who's so singularly focused
on being the greatest rapper that he could be,
that settling down with a woman,
like he probably knows that's going to take him off his game, right?
I don't think so.
You don't think?
No.
I just feel like, well, yeah, I don't know.
I just think he cannot love only one girl.
I think he's in love with like 10 at a time.
He's kind of said that, yeah.
He did say he was looking for a goth woman.
He did?
He's so weird.
Yeah.
But then I actually asked him about that once in him,
and he said that he was really kind of trying to manifest something with that.
You know, if you say that, you're going to get your DMs filled with hot goth girls, right?
Oh, yeah.
You couldn't be...
He was just in the mood for that?
Do we have Latina goths?
Or not so much.
You even know what that is?
I don't think they hit that hard.
Because it's like, I feel like to be like a true goth, you need to be like pale and white.
Yeah, but they make makeup for that, right?
I don't think it hits the same.
It's hard for me to imagine you wearing like white face paint trying to capture that.
You know what Ria Ripley is?
No.
I think he named dropped her too.
I'm not surprised.
The wrestler, too.
He loves all these bitches.
But she's like muscular.
Like looks like a man?
I mean, she's a professional wrestler and she's like very muscular.
So do you think she looks like a man?
I wouldn't say she looks like a man, but I would say that she would probably be like a decent fight for him.
Maybe he wants that.
It might not go his way.
Anyway, how invested were you in the Drake and Kendrick beef?
You didn't weigh in publicly, I don't think.
I probably did some, like, comments or something.
I don't know.
I just think Kendrick's a waste man.
He's just a little.
Like, I don't think he had anything.
Well, I have said that Drake shouldn't have did so many songs.
He should have did like a one bar.
One bar.
He's like he's like an artist and he wants to.
But I just feel like he has nothing to prove like this guy's a loser.
Like, why did he give him so much attention?
Okay, because he's kind of like one of the other top rappers.
You know, it's like his actual peer.
There's only other, there's only so many rappers that he really like would even be wise to like really respond to it.
I don't like know any Kendrick songs.
Like I didn't see him as like a big rapper at all.
So.
Yeah.
I'm just not knowledgeable on that.
I just thought he was a nobody.
I'm like, this guy's a hater.
If Drake had him one bar,
then we would have ever had not like us.
We would never have...
Yeah, I like not like us.
It's a good song.
I like it.
Right.
But, yeah.
I just think he didn't deserve all that.
You hate to see somebody be perceived
as taking the W in the battle off of, like, lies.
Yeah.
Because the whole...
The whole thing really didn't pay
out the secret daughter didn't pan out yeah loser yeah and I mean it's like even um
like Talib Kuali who's like an old school rapper that you for sure don't know but he had like a
viral clip the other day basically saying like that when he was out and about in Texas that like
every club he went to it's still mostly dracon played and that that's not normally when you have a
battle it seems like the winner was like clearly decided that that's not how this goes
Well, I don't think anyone's going to stop playing Drake's music.
Yeah.
The hell?
I think in the long run, that's the W for him.
Is that like, okay, you had your moment, but...
If we're talking about the songs, I did like the Drake songs better.
How about you?
Well, Kendrick definitely had the biggest hit, so we've got to admit that.
You think so?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that was a big song, you know?
I didn't love the messaging, but it was a big song.
Okay.
I like the Drake songs better.
Yeah.
I want to listen to this nerd talk.
Yeah.
Nerd, though.
Nerd is...
He sounds like a nerd.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of his rap voice.
Yeah, like, I'm not into it at all.
Like, who wants to listen to that all day?
What's gonna get the...
Drake's voice or Kendrick's voice.
Like, be fucking real.
Like...
You never fuck to Kendrick Lamar?
What?
Have I ever fucked him?
No, fuck to him.
Like, with him on Spotify.
If I have, I didn't...
It was by accident.
Was it a playlist?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think, you know, okay, like rewind the clock.
Early 2000s, Jay-Z and Naz had a big battle,
and Nas was perceived as winning.
And then Jay-Z went on to have, like, clearly by far the more dominant career,
more success financially in life.
I think it'll probably pan out like that in the long run.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, Drake kind of like...
I just don't think it was ever competition, to be honest.
By engaging with him,
Drake did kind of give his career.
Like, if Drake never came at him,
then Kendrick never plays the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Never gets to have the biggest record of his career.
I feel like he shouldn't have given him that much attention
because he's not important, right?
Yeah.
But like, who cares?
But Drake was kind of cocky at one point.
Like, he was...
He felt like he had won before that record came out.
He did win.
But he was doing like victory laps,
like putting out records, clouding them, doing the snoop AI thing.
These are things you don't do if you're like worried about the other guy, you know?
I don't think he's ever been worried.
Yeah.
Do you think the bots were like a big part of that?
You think like...
What are the bots?
Like just fake views?
Yeah, like the labels basically like, you know, making songs seem more popular than they are.
Probably.
Yeah.
Probably.
Probably.
So, okay, when did, well, actually, should I, should I do any more?
Drake related questions here?
Drake relations.
That might be the majority of the Drake ones.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
When did things go wrong with top five?
Up till what point were you guys cool?
So we've never really been cool.
Oh, okay.
So it started when this guy that I was kind of talking to
and kind of like in a public relationship got shot.
And he started going.
on the internet saying that I set him up.
Ah.
Which is against the law.
So like what the fuck is?
You might as well put the cuffs on me.
How was that against the law?
Setting someone up to get shot.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're right.
I thought you were saying that like saying that was against the law.
No.
Okay.
So I'm like what the fuck?
Might as well put the cuffs on me and I don't fuck with that because I actually didn't
set him up.
Uh-huh.
So it's like and even if I did, what the fuck are you ratting on me?
Like what's going on?
Hip hop has such a crazy appetite for conspiracy theories that whenever anybody gets shot,
it immediately becomes.
like the girl so-and-so shot set them up like every time now yes and then just like lying on
my pussy and he'd be like a weirdo he'd call me randomly and be like yo you know i fuck with you
if you ever need anything like call me and then literally like the same day he'll be like yeah
i've got crom-as lose patsy well like mentally ill like he's not mentally there and like he's just
a waste man so you're lying on patsy you never even with anyone who lies on patsy right so you
never even came close to hooking up with him ever absolutely not never never was there that
kind of i never even flirted for sport with him at all do you think do you view him as like a
dangerous killer drill rapper or do you think that's kind of like fake i think if you say
something on the internet he will want to retaliate for clout but i don't think because there's
street in him you know what i mean like i don't think it's because he's actually i think
he likes to do things
so you can post on the internet
and you know, like that.
Yeah, usually the real killers
aren't nearly as vocal as he is.
Yeah, he's like very vocal, right?
Well, I mean, he was actually saying
at one point, like, I'm Drake's shooter.
Yeah, like, who says that?
If you were really Drake's shooter, you probably wouldn't say that, right?
Like, certainly you would not say that.
Yeah, so it's always been, like, weird.
And then I just got to a point, like, after
when he came out and he was, like, lying on my,
they just stopped answering his calls and stuff.
because I'm like, you're just a weirdo.
Like, there's no hope for you.
Like, and then he was just bringing you up in that vlog that we did together.
Yeah.
Why?
I don't know.
I think he wants to go viral.
So.
Yeah, like, and I've told him, I'm like, you're literally a whore for the clout.
Like, you're hoaring it for clout.
Like, don't talk shit about him.
Like, you're making us all look bad.
Yeah, I mean, they were so cool for so long.
And then we don't really know what happened behind the scenes.
Him too.
I don't know why he f***es him too.
Hmm.
Oh, but when he did originally.
Do they still fuck with each other?
No idea.
No, because top five came out, like, going crazy on them.
Just saying all kinds of crazy shit.
And then it just stopped.
Like, he dissed him for a little, like, one day, maybe a couple of days.
And then I haven't heard anything since.
But top five has been weirdly quiet in general.
Yeah, he has.
I don't know why.
It'll probably come soon.
It's been since the whole like watch situation.
The watch situation?
Yeah.
What's that?
Like all these people like, are claiming that he like sent like fake crypto to get these watches.
So ever since then, I don't know if that's the reason why, but that's kind of when he's stopped like going crazy on the internet.
Yeah.
I mean, he allegedly came up like three million dollars on some sort of crypto scam.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Good for him.
From some random kids.
that he like finessed out of like millions of dollars worth of crypto.
That's the fucking kids' fault.
Stop fucking with these fucking weirdos.
Yeah, I don't know exactly how that went.
Good for him.
I wish that was me.
But there was audio of Drake like trying to calm the kid down.
And like kind of like assuring him that he was going to get his money back.
Oh shit.
It was so weird.
He'd be getting fucking Drake involved in all this fucking crappola.
I would assume Drake resented that.
Yeah, probably.
Because, you know, he's too big to have his name attached to something.
like that but then we never really heard anything else about that yeah that's what happens when you
don't talk i think that's what top five's hoping for he's just not talking about the watch
situation everyone's gonna like forget about it well he allegedly fell out with pressa because he like
gave pressa a bunch of money and then i don't know didn't work out from there oh really you cool with
pressa um i've only met him maybe like once or something like that i've never really kicked it
with him or anything i feel his music though yeah his music's good yeah
You don't think top five is going to make it as a rapper?
Well, he hasn't even dropped any songs yet.
But honestly, when he does drop, it goes crazy.
Like, everyone's tuning in and stuff.
Well, they want to know about the drama, right?
I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen.
Like, Toronto's a tricky, tricky place because, like, everyone dies or goes to jail.
Right.
In Toronto, so.
So, yeah, I mean, like, when we're...
So if he can kind of, like, if he can drive and, like, you know, be safe and, you know,
move.
out of that. I think, yeah.
I mean, is Toronto,
like, are you very careful about how you move
because of the possibility of...
A thousand percent. Yeah.
Yeah.
We went to a club out there,
and I kind of noticed that the DJ
did not play any Drake Ops the whole night.
And this is when top five
was still cool with him. Yeah, they don't
play Kendrick. No, DJs play Kendrick.
But I didn't hear a Rocky.
I didn't hear a future. I didn't hear a...
Oh, I don't know who all his officers are, but yeah.
I don't know, but this kind of stood out to me.
Like, maybe there's a list.
Did you feel like when you were in Toronto, like,
did you feel like the spooky vibes or like,
did you feel like it was like a safe city?
When I was in his neighborhood, for sure,
because there was cops patrolling to a level that I've never seen
in any neighborhood that I've ever been to.
Like, they were just, there was undercovers driving around.
You see the cops still?
Yeah, me personally.
But it just made me feel like, holy shit,
the cops are like very, very concerned with what could go down here.
Yeah.
And that was kind of bizarre.
A lot of neighborhoods you go to barely see cops at all.
No, but Toronto you see cops everywhere, downtown, everywhere.
Yeah, because we were staying downtown.
And I mean, it was like a super touristy area.
Like, I realize what kind of area we're staying in
because I'm seeing like drunk college-looking ass girls,
like walking around the whole time.
What club did you guys go to?
Was it 4-44?
Oh, 44?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
True.
Is that a good one?
It's a little rundown now, but yeah, like everyone goes there.
Don't shade these establishments.
They could go out of business because you said that.
No, they can.
They could add Chrome ass to the list of Do Not Play.
I don't matter anyway.
Kendrick, Future, Chromeass.
I don't club like that anyway, so.
You don't?
No.
This is a dead scene or what?
I just prefer to go to Spanish clubs, which are like on the more ratchet side of town.
Are you like a star in that environment or not really?
Really?
Yes, yeah.
I'm a star everywhere, but yes.
In the Latino community, yes.
Especially, there's like a big population of Ecuadorians in Toronto.
I'm Ecuadorian, so I'm the princess.
Yeah, I mean, like, in L.A., the club scene is really dead as far as I can tell.
I mean, I never hear anybody talk about going to the clubs.
The people I do know who go to them sometimes talk about it like it's super dead.
Yeah.
It's kind of sad.
No, I prefer to, like, get drunk at, like, a restaurant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think America is only allowed to have one lit city at a time, and right now it's Miami.
Oh, yeah?
Maybe.
Maybe.
It's a theory.
Okay, so top five said, he put out a list of guys that he claims that you fucked, and you can just give me a yes or no on all these.
Okay.
So him.
Absolutely not.
Drake.
Not.
Not.
Jake Paul.
What the fuck?
This is what he said.
No.
Steve will do it.
Who the fuck is that?
Like, oh my God, I actually hate him.
He's so annoying.
He's one of the knelt boys, but he's the one from Florida,
whereas the rest of the knell boys are from Toronto or Canada?
Okay, no, I don't know Steve.
Okay.
Kevin Durant.
No.
Okay.
the truth. Right.
Okay, so what about
when top five guys neck slit open in London?
Was that an upsetting
experience for you? Like this crown jewel?
Why the fuck would I care?
I mean, that's a bad look for the city, right?
Why would I care?
I don't know. And allegedly
allegedly it was like a hit
sent from rival gang members
in Canada.
Go get the job done in London.
That's crazy. I don't give a
I'm on a like, there's a,
There's a thing in Toronto where it's like, so me, personally, I bump, I bump every hood.
So every hood plays in my car.
I don't give a fuck.
Even if I hate them, if the song's a banger, I bump, I don't care.
But now I don't go a fuck.
If you catch feelings because I'm bumping someone or if I f*** with someone, if you don't
shoot for me and if you don't love me, I don't give a fuck what you think.
Top five, he's not my friend.
I don't go to fuck what happens to him.
I don't care.
So if he had died in that incident, you wouldn't have posted RIP?
No.
I wouldn't have been like, yes, he died.
but I wouldn't have posted RIP what the fuck.
Yeah, I mean, him, uh, claiming, false claiming a gang bang is pretty rough.
Yeah, like what?
In the projects, not even like a classy gang bang.
And that's like really gay.
What, doing a gang bang?
Yes.
Like, why are you saying that?
I mean, some guys like to do that with their friends.
Yeah, it's gay.
I only really know about it in the porn sense.
Gay, gay, gay, gay.
You don't think that's gay?
Uh, no.
Why would you want to share a woman with another man and, like, be in the same room with your fucking penis out with another fucking dicks out?
What if you got a bunch of homies and there's only one girl and she's down to get fucked by everybody?
Disgusting.
She doesn't have four friends.
Disgusting.
What if the girl wants to do that?
What is her fantasy?
Those guys are gay.
She likes gay guys.
I would never do that.
I've never been DP.
That's disgusting.
DP double penetration.
Yes.
I've never.
No, that's so gross.
So I would think the guys are gay.
I used to think I liked it more than I do,
but now that I've, like, done it on camera a bunch of times,
it's like...
Ew.
I get how it looks good on camera, but...
I don't even think it looks good.
I think it looks disgusting.
When you start smelling the other guys,
you're like fucking this girl,
and you're thinking how good she looks,
but then you're, like, smelling another dude.
I don't even like threesomes.
Really?
You've tried it?
I've only done it with a guy that I don't care about.
Like, I feel like if a girl really cares about a guy,
she would never give him a threesome.
Unless she's like a super like lesbian maybe
So a guy you were dating
But that you didn't really care about
Um no
Like one of my friends
Okay
So you just
A guy you were friends with
With another girl
Yeah
I feel like you would have a hard time
Finding a girl that you consider hot enough
To be in the same bed as you
Yeah
Like I'm like
I don't know
It's just not my thing
And especially if I care about a guy
Like no
I don't want anyone
Like I like to connect
During sex
And like deep eye stare
and like very much like, you know, soul,
soul grabbing.
What if this guy is like the man in your dreams,
but he wants to have a threesome once in a while,
and you know you trust him so much
that you know that he's not gonna fucking hit up
the other girls afterwards or anything?
I'd just be like, okay,
obviously I'm not the one for you
because I'm not enough for you.
What if he was the one from your perspective?
You love him.
And he just wanted a threesome?
Yeah, a couple times a year.
Um, I'll just be like, no, do your thing.
My wife trusts me enough that she can enjoy seeing me for another girl.
Yeah, but isn't she like a lesbian too?
She was a lesbian in college.
She'll still, she'll hook up with girls on camera.
Yeah, well, she had a girlfriend in college for like four years.
Yeah, so she's a full on, yeah, full on lesbian.
Well, she was.
That makes sense.
So it's because it's kind of for her too, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
But I feel like if you're not, like I'm not a lesbian.
So for me, seeing another guy be with another girl, like, that would just hurt me so much.
And I'd just be like, he does not love me.
I think what you're saying is, like, how the average woman feels about it.
So you don't got to feel too bad.
I don't feel bad at all.
Yeah.
I would just think, like, good, like, we got this over with.
Like, I'm not the one for you.
If I ever want to move on from a guy, I'd just be like, yeah, let's do it through some so I can watch it.
And then if I ever...
That would end it.
If I ever watch my future...
If I ever catch my future man watching porn, this is my move.
I'm going to have sex with someone, film myself, and send it to him.
Because this is what you like, right?
Watching porn is that big a deal?
Yes.
What?
Yes.
Why?
It means you have no self-control and that you will cheat, because in that situation,
you're imagining yourself there and you're, like, all into it.
What if porn, dragging off to porn, is the thing that's keeping him from cheating?
Then eventually when the chance comes.
I'm in love with the crouties.
Get the f-a-tae F-Third trying to fall in love over here.
Lush, you too.
They're all horny as, look at this.
Hi.
Why are you wearing a Crip Mac hoodie?
Hi.
I'm a huge fan.
Really?
Yeah.
He's a J-Cat.
Oh my God.
They're trying to interfere with this thing we got going on here.
Yo, he has no idea how horny he just looked.
We got to get like a GoPro pointed out of the door so we got a second angle when that should like that happens.
Damn, I just can't believe that porn would be that big a deal.
But I mean, like, I had a girlfriend, like, when I was younger, when I was like 22 or whatever,
and her mom divorced her dad because she caught him watching porn.
Yeah.
I was like, that is the most retarded thing ever.
That's the dumbest reason ever to end this relationship.
I just think, like, I get how you think it can be harmless,
but I just think it's just not a good sign that if he's already watching porn and, like,
he will cheat if he gets a chance
I don't think those things are related
they definitely are
What about the fact that
And I just feel like it means like you're not satisfied
In your relationship because why are you watching porn?
Why would you
There's other hot girls out there
And I think it's kind of gay
Why are you watching like
Like it's like cucky
Cuck behavior
Like why are you getting turned on by other niggas fucking
Like weird
Like I mean I hear like gangster ass dudes
Say that too and I just don't get it
It's gay
It's not gay
If there was two people sitting there
Fucking right now
Wouldn't you not be able to stop looking
Yeah but
So what's wrong with seeking it out
Because it's so strange
Or are you getting turned on
And actually like
No like a really hot girl
And a really hot guy
We're banging right there
You would not be able to stop looking
So of course you're also going to seek it out
I think I'd be disgusted
I'd be like why are you guys doing this
In front of me
Why?
Because that should be between
2 people what the fuck
I get porn is for like the weirdos
So I cannot date a fucking weirdo.
That is me, especially because I do OnlyFans, especially not.
I cannot date a guy who watches porn.
That's like a drug dealer dating a crackhead.
I cannot date a fucking consumer.
You know what you're doing right now?
You're being a pick-me for the anti-porn crowd.
Because there's all kinds of fucking red pill dudes online that this is like their talking point.
Really?
Yeah, there's all these anti-porn people now.
This has always been my point of view.
I've never been okay with that.
And I would literally, I wouldn't be able to respect a guy if I found out he's like a porn addict.
Uh-huh.
Define addict.
Like you watch it every day
You watch it three times a week
I would say three times a week
I'll watch porn for like five minutes and jerk off
But why?
To go to bed
Tire myself out a little wife
Okay sorry my bad
You have your hot wife
And don't you guys
Thank you for that
Have all these fucking bitches
PlugTalk.com
We have sex with other girls on camera
Not ever off camera really
Oh so like you feel like on camera
You don't really get it?
Good?
It would just be so different
if I was like, yo, Friday night, I got this girl, she's going to come through, we're going to hang out, get some drinks, go to the club, and then we can all fuck out there.
So what, it doesn't turn you?
That's so different than like, we're going to have a camera crew there and we're going to make money off it.
No, I get it.
So you're saying it doesn't turn you on the same way.
It does, it both turn me on.
It's more just like dedicating your Friday night to like banging.
So do you watch porn in front of her or like do you go to the washroom?
The washroom.
That's the bathroom in your world?
No, Canadians say washroom
I know, it's insane
But no, I don't really watch porn in front of her
But we have watch porn together like a little bit
But really only a handful of times
That's so weird
Yeah
Why?
Like wouldn't you just rather real sexic?
I don't get it
Yeah
But sometimes you know
You watch some porn, you get in the mood
I say this like we've almost never done that
She's like what the fuck are you talking about
We've never done that
I mean I'm just saying like we would be open to it
We've talked about it.
It sounds like a good idea.
But in reality, we're parents.
So it's like by the time the kid is in bed,
we're probably going to watch like two episodes of a show on Netflix and then go to bed.
When?
And maybe fuck.
But, you know.
You don't try every night?
Not every night.
Really?
No.
Is it because you're older?
If she didn't have like a job and wasn't doing anything with her life,
I would probably try to fuck her more.
But like I see the exhaustion.
Oh.
So maybe try fucking.
before the shows come on.
Yeah, I'll, like, scoot over closer, start rubbing her leg, you know.
And she's like...
Rubber waves.
She knows exactly what I'm doing.
She's looking at me, like...
I mean, so you're trying to get f***ing every night?
If it was up to you, how many times would you in a relationship be having sex?
Um, whatever it takes to keep him happy.
I believe a girl, like, should be like a slave to, like a sex slave.
See, pick me.
You're just...
How is that pick me?
Because the red pill community is going to hear this.
I just...
Like, I can already see Sneaker watching.
this on stream and being like, yes.
Do you know who that is?
Do you know who that is?
No, I'm trying to be a pygmy or yes, I'm
talked to him before like on when I was trying to be a
streamer, but no, I'm not trying to be a pygmy.
I'm just saying.
I think women should be a slave
is such a crazy thing to say.
Sex slave. No, I'm saying to their men.
Yeah. I mean, hey, from a guy's perspective, sure.
Yeah, it sounds amazing.
No, I just think that's what you should do.
If you want to be with like a smart, empowered, liberated woman,
you probably can't also ask for her to be a sex.
slaves. She's probably going to have some kind of like control over that as well. How much and how
like how much you're fucking how often. Yeah, but obviously a guy who has a shit together, you can't just
be having sex all day, but at least he needs to like, you know, clean the pipes like once a day
probably or a few times a week. And it's like if you want to keep your man happy, if you don't want
to get cheated on, right. You should be doing your part as a woman. What if my wife is sick?
Am I allowed to go beat off in the bathroom? No. What the fuck? Well, okay.
What is being sick stopping her from doing?
I mean, I'm kind of sick right now.
I'm not really like trying to fuck.
I mean, maybe I would, but.
No.
Okay, okay.
Here's the thing.
A lot of times, I'll just jerk off in the shower real quick.
No porn.
Just imagination, just memory.
Really?
How is that?
Do you imagine your wife?
Sure, or other scenarios, you know.
But how is that different from me watching porn?
I'm picturing in my head like a hot sexual experience I had when I was 25.
Wow.
See, that's cheating too.
Oh, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
That's cheating.
If you are getting turned on by someone else and you're busting your nuts of them is cheating.
You're giving your energy to them.
I don't think this is.
And you'd rather be there in that moment.
This is not like a sustainable long-term opinion.
I just feel like it's kind of unrealistic.
Yeah, it is.
in this fucking porn addiction world, yes, it is.
So you're anti-porn.
Yeah.
Doesn't your only fans, doesn't your only fans consist of some like softcore porn?
It's okay.
Only simp to me.
What?
Yeah, but all of my fans are sims.
All your friends are sims.
No, friends, fans.
Yes.
Okay.
But like, what is on there?
Like, you're touching yourself maybe a little bit?
No.
No masturbation, just photos or...
Hot stuff.
Hot stuff, but you're limiting yourself.
No more tit jobs?
No.
You don't think I'll ever go back to that?
No.
Anything with a dude is off limits forever.
Yeah.
You don't seem like your hearts in that answer.
Because me and my boyfriend, my ex-boyfriend, we had a sex tape that got leaked by accidentally.
I can Google this?
I haven't seen this.
Yeah, but it's like super like soft.
Like it's like maybe 30 seconds.
You don't even see my face.
Just reverse cowgirls.
Just like, because we used to take personal videos all the time just for fun.
So it's like not that serious.
Hmm.
I guess if I was dating you and I knew I wasn't allowed to look at porn,
then I would need those kind of videos so that I could have something to jerk off to.
Yeah.
But like, I don't get why you're jerking up.
You weren't because I'm on the road.
What if I'm gone for two weeks?
I'm on the road.
FaceTime sex with your wife.
So I'm still jerking off
Like you need to
Yes but you guys are doing it together
Yeah
What if we're in a different time zone
What if it's not realistic?
So stop being so fucking horny
And wait until she can do it
I don't want to wait
I had to not jerk off
I didn't jerk off for 10 days
In the lead up to that boxing match
Why?
You still lost?
Yeah I know
My boxing coach told me
That it was like a really really
Really bad idea
And that it was a really really bad idea
Yeah
Like you need that
testosterone.
Fury, yeah.
I mean,
I asked Chad GBC has said that it's a lie
that your testosterone goes up
from not jerking off,
but I still did it
just because he said so.
Well, it makes you more tender, right?
Jerking off?
No, not jerking off.
I think it filled me with aggression.
Really?
Yeah, I was like angrier.
Okay.
I can't believe you said I'm a pick-me.
I'm not a pic-me.
There's a definition of a pick-me,
but it's okay.
You are...
Who's picking me?
Guys, I'm just saying,
I feel like, well, whatever.
It's like you're being to pick me to like a pretty specific audience though
because obviously like 90.
What the fuck I believe in?
90% of guys jerk off to porn.
Yeah, I know.
Disgusting.
So you're being a pick me to the tiny minority that don't.
But I love them.
But it comes from you having such a like high sense of self-esteem
that you believe that the whole world should be like structured around what you want,
which is like a guy who's solely trying to fuck you,
even if it was four times a day.
Yeah.
Which every other woman on her thinks that's way too much.
It is a lot.
But if that's what he needs and I love him and I need to make him happy,
then I have to do my duty.
If we get married, that's my fucking duty.
Well, I appreciate that.
Sentiment.
Okay.
Even if you have to Starfish, just fucking do it.
Like, it's not a big deal.
Or suck dick if you don't want to fuck.
Yeah.
You can put headphones on, listen to a podcast during it.
No.
You could, though.
I'm just saying.
You could.
Yeah.
So, like, are you worried about the tattoos under your fucking neck and shit?
So, yeah, if I could go back, I would do zero tats.
Really?
I feel like I'm too pretty to have all these tats.
I've been talking about removing them, but the process is just so shitty.
And they rarely go 100% away, and then you're just going to have, like, a weird blotch on your arm.
Black and white is, like, easier to get rid of.
I don't have color.
I know a lot of women who have, like, got their tattoos.
remove and then like at a certain point it just stops working especially the colored stuff and
this looks terrible yeah but the black and white i think you can get rid of more um are you still
beefing with make the stallion beefing yeah you were like going pretty hard on her that was like our first
interview you were like talking about your disc tract towards her yeah um well she's a rat and she put
my homie away so yes she is a rat like i don't we don't message each other and
beef, but like,
yeah.
Like, if we're gonna hold girls
to the same standard
that we hold guys to,
she's a rat.
A thousand and ten percent.
Yeah.
We should be holding them
on the same standard.
Do you think?
A thousand,
that's why all the,
that's why I don't
respect niggas
who don't hold girls
because they get caught up
with these fucking bitches.
Uh-huh.
And I'm like, okay,
you're not following the code.
I don't like that.
If you got,
would you take the stand
against the rape?
Hell no.
Really?
A thousand and ten percent I wouldn't.
Wow.
I guess I'm smoking at you.
Are you crazy?
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Send top five.
Are you dumb?
I would never.
It'll probably do it.
I'll do myself.
Give him a hundred grand.
I'll do it.
No.
You don't need to pay people.
You could get Drake's new shooter.
He's probably got a new shooter.
I don't need anyone's shooter.
Based on the way Drake talked about you, I feel like he would probably get the job done for you.
Oh, he's so nice.
I love it.
then you could really know he's with you
no I think he does
with me but like
if he didn't fuck with you for sure he would have told me
and then like I wouldn't have known about your conversation
yeah for sure
I would have just asked you a bunch of weird shit
that he told me like how do you know that
because I would keep his secret too
if he said like she's a piece of shit she did this
and this he has that power where everyone
will just keep his secrets probably
probably not everybody but
yeah but what bad things do you hear about him
yeah that's a good point
well fucking other people's girls is probably like the main thing that people throw out there
yeah but that makes them look like losers yeah but you know it's gonna kind of sour that
relationship probably yeah or they're ex girls you know yeah it's a complicated dynamic
like how long do you wait before you fuck somebody's ex I've been a relationship for 10 years
so I haven't really got a chance to like have to play that game yeah but in my pre-fame
life definitely had a lot of beef in the BMX world for banging people's ex-girlfriends.
Like your friends?
Not friends, but like people I knew.
Oh, so it doesn't really matter if they're not your friends, right?
That's my opinion, but then people would still get very salty about it.
No.
You tell me if I'm right, you are allowed to claim one girl on earth at a time.
So in other words, if me and him are cool, I will not.
not his girlfriend and if they break up I'll not his girlfriend but if he gets a new girlfriend
okay the ex-girlfriend is immediately she's up for grabs even to your homies no no no no no is that here
is that what you think well as i say it it sounds pretty fucked up because that's definitely not
something i would actually do to him but i just think in general okay if we're if we're friends if we're
really close or you know he wears for me so it's like okay it's got to be a level of respect
but if you're like a guy i know you're gonna do it you better be fucking in love like don't just do it because
you're horny. Do it because you're like,
I actually fuck with this girl. No, I'm talking about just being
horny for sure. Okay, then absolutely not.
No? No.
Fair enough.
So, wait, are you signed to a label currently or no?
No. No. The music dream
is just not really that serious to you anymore.
It's not that serious. Like, I still do it
because I love to do it.
Okay. But not to do, like, yeah.
Okay. And then,
so Trotson White, he said that you're a wannabe N-word.
Why the fuck would I want to?
Like, okay, when I say niga, I don't mean a black person.
That's not what I mean.
Just how you grew up talking?
Yeah.
So, and if that's what he means, if he means niga as a black person, no, I do not want to be black.
I'm very happy and proud to be Ecuadorian and I wouldn't want it no different at all.
See, it's a...
And there's lots of black people in Ecuador, too.
We have the most black people in all this, all the Hispanic countries.
That's true.
But, okay, so I feel like every Hispanic person or like almost every Hispanic person,
I've known in my entire life, said the N-word, says the N-word.
Yeah.
But you don't like look as Spanish to people, so that's probably why they're going to get on your case about it.
I don't look Spanish.
You don't look like him.
I don't look Spanish?
I mean, you do, but not like a lot of people would look at your own thing.
I look white girl.
I look white.
Ish?
Look at my nose.
I have almost a black guy.
nose.
Like, what are you talking about?
It looks like pretty normal notes.
Your manager is over here, like, offended that I would suggest that you look like a white
girl.
I mean, I guess like hearing you talk and knowing you, yeah, I get it.
But like, okay.
Looking at me on the shoe, you would think I'm white.
Like, okay, 6'9 gets a lot of, doesn't get that much shit for staying the N-Waring
because you look at him for two seconds and you're like, oh, he's Mexican.
Yeah.
But I feel like with you, maybe not as much.
I think everyone's going to disagree with you.
I look super spick.
Spick is crazy.
I don't know if anyone's ever said that word on her.
I spoke.
Yeah.
I had an old tweet where I said that and people really still kind of bring it up.
Really?
Yeah.
He said speck.
It's such like such an antiquated racial slur.
Like, and now you have to look at yourself to.
Yeah, I don't think I look white.
Like, where?
I'm just saying like that's why Charleston White,
Charleston White probably does not perceive you as being a person of color.
No, we talked about it.
He's like, you're Latina.
Oh, okay.
He's an old-ass black dude, so.
To him, if you're not black, you don't get to end word.
I'm not the one making the rules, I'm assuming.
What fucking rules?
The N-word rules.
Oh, there's no fucking nigger rules.
Like, what are you talking about?
I mean, there are.
White people aren't allowed to say it,
and everybody else is kind of allowed to say it,
but like black people are definitely allowed to say it.
I think everyone says it.
Not white people.
I think you do.
say it. No. I think you say it. Just not on camera. You can ask every person I know. My wife
friends say it. I believe it, but they're probably also not like famous in the rap world.
I have a very good reason to not say it, but also I didn't say it before that either. What's your
good reason? I'm white. Well, my good reason is the fact that I'm Adam 22 and I'm very famous for
being a rap podcaster. I think you say it. No. My wife's never heard me say it. All my
black friends haven't heard me say it. Has your wife said it? Hell no.
What would she do if she said it?
Would you think it was weird?
I would actually be proud of her for kind of stepping outside her usual box that she's in
where she like would never say it in a million years.
Really?
Never.
She's really not.
Yeah, you guys are like really square, but like also do porn.
Yeah, that's a hard juxtaposition for people to understand, yeah.
But yeah, no, she would never say it.
But that white guy who just came in here, lush, he says it all the fucking fun.
But not on camera, which to me that's just fake.
I'm not trying to say anything off camera that.
Guys, lush says nigger.
They know, they know.
Okay, but do you moderate yourself?
All right.
If there was a 60, no, 62 young.
If there was an 80-year-old black lady in here who survived the civil rights era,
would you say it in front of her?
Or would you be more respectful?
Not purposely, but it probably would slip out.
And then.
And then you'd just be like, my bad.
Yeah.
I'm sure that would be all right.
Yeah.
something um all right so what's cromaz got coming what do you what do you have planned
hottest actress ever i hope they you are on baywash that's gonna be incredible i'll be in
l-a all the time then and that'll be exciting too you can come on a podcast all the time you can hang
with a lush lush lushy we can say niggas together i guarantee you he's waiting out there to like
try to get a photo here and say a niggas right now you could say that out there i'll film it but um
yeah that sounds great
all N-word convention in here every day.
Yeah.
Nice.
Okay.
Chromaz.
Chromita.
Chromita.
Thank you.
This was exhilarating.
Really?
For sure, our best interview.
For sure, our longest interview.
Like, our first interview was like 30 minutes.
Really?
This is like an hour and a half.
I feel like I'm boring, no, because I'm older.
No, you're like more well-spoken, now.
You have, like, more to say.
Thank you.
Chromaz, no jumper.
Coolest podcast.
on the world, like, comment, and subscribe.
Shout out to our members because they got to see this whole thing early.
Well, they did?
Is it live?
No.
Oh.
But maybe in the future.
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