No Jumper - Cleotrapa On BBL Rumors, Fighting, Ice Spice & More

Episode Date: December 7, 2022

Cleotrapa made waves from social media to hosting shows on different networks! She talks about her rise, her next moves, clears up rumors and more. ------ 00:00 intro 9:50 Cleotrapa talks about f**ti...ng a girl with smelly p__ 15:02 Cleotrapa on dating broke boys & scammers 39:05 Cleotrapa & Flakko name their top 5 New York rappers 46:46 Cleotrapa on why ice spice gets hated on 55:00 Cleotrapa shuts down BBL rumors and almost getting one for free 1:03:50 Cleotrapa on how she appeared on Kai Cenat's stream ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. We're here again with Cleo Trapper, not Patra. Yo, how do you feel like... No, Petra. Yo, how do you feel like... Yo, how do you feel like when, like, say, like, Cleopatra? I get mad. Why?
Starting point is 00:00:16 It's like, you just didn't read it. Yeah. And you should have. Like, at all. Now, does Trapper means that you was really out here, you feel of me? Really out here trapping? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:26 It just means it's a cute twist to Cleopatra. You, Yeah, listen, I'll keep it a buck. Like, Cleo looks like she's high maintenance, right? And that taste has to come from somewhere, though, right? You feel me? Now, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're from the Bronx, right?
Starting point is 00:00:45 Why would you just assume I'm from the Bronx? Yo, because, like, we've had, like, mad Bronx people here today. Like, Be Love came, some other rapper came. So I would assume, no, you're from Long Island. No. I'm from Staten Island. want you to guess anymore. Cut it out.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Yo, no, no, I knew that. I knew that, right? Because, like, yo, I got, like, mad girls, right? And on my Facebook, who's, like, who's... No, no, I knew that, right? Listen, because, like, somebody, like, shared your post. And was, like, yo, oh, shit, like, I, Ben knew her. Like, some girl called Letty on letter, right?
Starting point is 00:01:19 Like, like... You know letter? Yeah, man. How you know letter, though? Didn't you just say you from North Dakota? Yes. She knows you from North Dakota? No.
Starting point is 00:01:27 No, no, no, no. No. Like, so, like, so, like, we're friends on Facebook. she has a mutual friends of mine and we just, you know. Oh, that's crazy. That's somebody that I really know from, like, my hometown. Oh, really? Like, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Like, how so? Like, y'all, like, really, like, close, close. We're not really, like, close, but we used to be really close, you know? Yeah. Like, we grew up together type of shit. See, come on now. Listen, man. Listen up, right, you see?
Starting point is 00:01:49 A very small world. A very small world, right? So she was like, yeah, man. So, Stan Island, not the Bronx. Not the Bronx. Wait a though. Okay, so then, like, I'm confused. So then, like, how did you meet,
Starting point is 00:01:59 Me, like, Ice Spice? Me and Ice met in, we met in the A when she came, she had came to the A for the BT Awards and we just, we just met, but it feels like we've known each other about it. Yeah. Yeah, we just met though.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Not as crazy, right? Because, like, I would assume that, like, y'all was, like, just, like, best friends, you feel me? Everybody thinks that. Not. That's my girl, though. Here, right? So, okay, so, now, what's the biggest difference between
Starting point is 00:02:24 Stan Allen and the Bronx? Like, what's, like, the, like the biggest factor. Now, like, some people from like Staten Island told me that the Bronx is just dirty. You feel me? So, like, that's difference. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Nah, the biggest difference, I am going to say Staten Island is definitely cleaner than the Bronx. You feel me? Bronx is a bit more ghetto than Staten Island. Staten Island has its ghetto parts, but the Bronx has more ghetto parts than Stan Island will ever have. They are super ghetto.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It's ghetto out there. I've been out there a few times. It's mad fucking far. It's that far? It's like an hour away. I go out there for like food and stuff, probably get my hair done. But it's far.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Like, and it's dirty. Nah, that's the fact, right? Again, I ain't saying it's dirty, you feel me? It is dirty. I don't know the Bronx is dirty.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Like, I ain't say the people that dirty, but as far as like the cleanliness of the place is not cleansing. Yo, no, listen, I agree, agree, right? Which is why I'd be like so fucking shocked
Starting point is 00:03:26 when I hear people would be like, yo, I'm going on vacation to, like, New York. Yeah, you could go on vacation in New York, but the Bronx is not where you're staying. We're going to stay in the city. Where to, like, like, just, okay, but like, it's like a big city. Like, so, like, where do you go? Like, what's the dude in that?
Starting point is 00:03:41 If you were to vacation in New York, I would recommend Soho or Midtown or just places where you could get a nice, pretty view. You could go shopping, get good food. And the whole NYC, oh, that's my child. Yeah. I think he's, I think he got to come out. Take her out. Yeah, man. Like, since is having enough, bro. You feel me? Like, Harry Potter? Harry Potter? Or?
Starting point is 00:04:11 Add that's it? Hey, Harry. That's my son. Yo, listen. Like, she told me that Harry calls 4,500. And who? You're clear. We're Nigerian, right? What? Sorry. Sorry, now we. I'm my brain, right? Oh, you live, very? Yes. Right? We African. Okay. This ain't African behavior, man. What's going on? That's the, Foot for a dog? I mean, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Growing up, we've always had a dog. Of course. In my crib, so it's like, it's okay to me. My mom will make sure that we, like, she'll be like, oh, let's find a dog that's not too expensive. But, I mean, I got money, so it's like. Woo, listen, man. Yo, bro, tell them folks, dog. Hey, hey, listen, flaco.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Keep your broke-nigger activities in my set away from me, bro. You feel me? There's money there. Man. That's my baby. Wait. So cute. That's mommy's baby.
Starting point is 00:05:06 You actually woke up one day, though. You, like, drove to the pest store and you went there, like, looking for, like, an expensive dog? No, I didn't go there looking for expensive. All the dogs there was expensive. All of them was expensive. Were? Yeah, they had mixed dogs. I honestly think this is the cheapest one.
Starting point is 00:05:25 $4,500? Yeah. Yo, I got to keep my ass out of these dog stores, right? You're taxed, I ain't gonna love No, this is a fact Yo, okay, right, so where, okay, so like, so like, break it down, right? So, you're from Stan Island, now, like,
Starting point is 00:05:39 just tell me, you know, about your upbringing, man, like, how was it? Like, was, like, both parents there? I would assume you're, you're, you know, like African? Yeah, I'm not, like, Germanian. Don't assume both parents are there because that, you know, my father wasn't a part of my life. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:05:54 Yeah, he left when I was, like, three. But I had a stepfather, my mother, you know, They were strict, real strict parents, very, very strict, you know. They were strict? Strict. But I would say, like, strict when it comes to, like, grades and shit like that. But, like, not like, oh, you can't wear that type of thing. Like, I've always been able to express myself through my clothing and do what I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:06:18 But they were definitely strict. Like, be home at seven. Like, it was real hard for me to lose my V and shit like that. At seven? Yeah, I had to be home at seven. God damn. I had to be home at seven. Like up until I was probably
Starting point is 00:06:31 Like they'll give me a little leeway Depending on where I'm going Like say I'm going to the movies Gotta be home at like 11 Okay okay okay okay yeah that's decent But like yeah And you're like fully like Like both parents Nigerian?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Mm-hmm Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait Both parents are Nigerian And like pops left He went the back story How my father got kicked out Oh he got kicked Okay
Starting point is 00:06:58 Okay Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Bro got kicked out. All right. Now why? Like, was he just wilding?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Should we get my mom up here? Yes. Speak on it, man. This is her question. I ain't gonna lie. I never really even asked that much into. I just know that he didn't come back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Check on me. For me, regardless if you got kicked out, you know? Are you watching this right now? Do you love me? No. Probably. Brow. I can't actually.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Let me not say. Hey, bro, hey, bro, listen, listen, man, I can, listen, I can almost guarantee, like, now that you up, rich as fuck, popular as fuck, we're probably telling everybody, yeah, you know, like, that's my daughter right there, man, you feel me? But, like, what type of kid was you to, like, because now you are like, you know, like, you were funny as fuck, outgoing. Was that always you? Yeah, I've always been that. You could ask everybody that I've grown up with. They know, people already see this, like, life. me, you know? I got it a lot when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Like, girl, you're going to be on TV. Girl, you're going to do this. Really? Yeah, I've always been, you know, just that person that everybody gravitates to. It was never hard. It was never forced. It was always easy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yo, listen, listen, man, like, I'm so happy for you, bro, because I was the opposite. Like, these niggas voted me, like, most annoying. Like, oh, shit. Yeah, bro, like. Most annoying got it. Most annoying. Nah, listen. I was like the kid where, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Bro, listen, man. I was a great grubber, you feel me, like teachers, pet. Like, I'm talking about, like, I was the biggest, like, school, not a snitch in school, right? But, you know, like, yo, like, you know, like, he did that.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You feel right? So, you know, so I was hated. So, wait, I come on, that. We work with you. Ah. We got to just put it up with it. Hold up, bro. So they actually know this already.
Starting point is 00:08:54 They low-key know. That's crazy. Yeah, man. But like, okay, Rapala, break down for me, man. How did it feel being a cool kid in school? I ain't gonna lie. It was a lot to it. Like, bitches be hating.
Starting point is 00:09:08 No matter if you're a cool kid, that don't mean bitches don't want to be you and hate you. You got hands, though. Like, again, I would assume, though, that, like, Cleo got hands still, right? Yeah, I used to fight a lot. I used to fight back in my days. I'd be a couple of bitches up.
Starting point is 00:09:22 You know, but that's a part of being an it, girl. I ain't gonna lie. Come with it. You know, you gotta beat a couple of bitches out. That's just come with that. No funny shit. Why did the holes hit you? Like, I hate you though.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Like, why, like... Because, you know, when you outspoken, you know yourself. It's just, that's the type of shit. Like, there's bitches that just, they wish they could be you. They wish they could say how they feel. You know? Yeah. Just say whatever they want to say, not give a fuck who feels away.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But some people can't do that. Was there ever a time they tried you? And, like, you actually lost it? that fight? Let me think about it time I was tried. I didn't go to lie, I did lose one fight back in my days. How, was she just like six foot,
Starting point is 00:10:06 six, 300 pounds? It wasn't even that. It was more like, I'll tell you exactly how it went down. It was, unfortunately, it was over a nigga. Unfortunately, it wasn't over a nigga. But it's like, I didn't want to fight over a nigga, but I'm a fight. You know what I'm saying? So I was just like, fucky. But it was cool. It was giving a tie,
Starting point is 00:10:24 but the scar fell on my face. I always gave a scarf. Whenever I fall, I didn't know when my hair getting pulled. Oh, she really? Okay. Yeah, the scarf fell and. She, she, like, grabbed that shit in. Yeah, it gave a fall to the ground.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. Yo, listen, pray that video ain't like just. You said, pray that video. Just like on line somewhere, bro. Why did you assume that there was a video there? Why did you assume that? No, because like back home, bro, like, every fight, niggas. Not there was a video, though.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Really? Oh, man. Yo, I can almost guarantee you, like, that girl right now is sitting on that shit. Not sitting on that shit waiting to send it through. It's embarrassing, though, because you want to know, she had wrapped her legs. Like, my sister was there, too, my own sister. She had wrapped her legs somewhat around my neck and shit. And it's like I could smell her pussy.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh. So I started screaming like, your pussy stink. So that will be a nice viral video Let's make it happen And she started Like wow Not a good thing going to hurt Yeah bro
Starting point is 00:11:34 I don't think that she's gonna sell Like you know like Well no again though Like listen Like I'm like here right So like I like see like you being Again like probably like in like five years
Starting point is 00:11:47 One of the biggest like females rappers Right I can see it So sis listen man Once you get to be on let's say like a Nikki level She for show contact from TMZ for that shit, bro. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:57 What you gonna get out of that, Brooklyn? No. 5,000? Yo. No, yo, speaking of Burkins, yo. You made my life hell, man, right? So, like, I forgot the video, right?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Is Cleo speaking on broke men, right? Yo, tell me how my girl sent me that clip, right? What clip to be exact? Bro, I forgot the actual clip, right? But you were like, like, speaking on broke men or, like, in some clip a clip about, like, it's men spending money, right? Mm-hmm. And at that time, Cleo, I had a $15 a hour job, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:12:42 I was down bad, broke as hell, right? Mm-hmm. And you've made it to where now, like, bro, like, these holes, like, now I want Birkins. I ain't do none of that shit. You feel me? Like fucking Chanel bags down Come on, Cleo.
Starting point is 00:12:58 No, I ain't make none of them bitches want that shit because I tell you this much Ain't no nigga ever buy me no Birkin or Chanel. Why? Ain't no nigga ever buy me no burking or don't say why.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Just know that ain't no nigga ever do that for me. Like the fuck? I do it for myself. Okay, right? Do you like the rich men now or do you just date, you know, like regular men? See, now I can't date regular men no more.
Starting point is 00:13:22 What? I can't. I've reached up certain level now. I can't date of regular men. And it's so crazy, I dead posted something on Twitter and they had people mad. I said something like, I said, yo, it's so funny. I don't think I should repeat it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I said, I don't think I should repeat it. I said, it would be kind of, no, I said, imagine dating a regular nigga and you got to wait like three, four months for him to like save up for a Chanel back for you. Oh, that. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, again, like, I'm a broke nigga, right? Again, listen, Cleo. You're fucking, I said it. I am broke, right?
Starting point is 00:14:02 But it's nothing wrong with that. My thing is, it's nothing wrong with that at all. It's just, I don't want to take that from you. You worked so hard. You saved up for months. It's a sweet thing, but I wouldn't ask for it. I wouldn't ask for it. Really?
Starting point is 00:14:15 I wouldn't ask for that. Wait. That's nice as fucky, right? Bro, listen. That's nice as fuck, but I wouldn't ask for that. with an ice for that How much is a Chanel bag? It ranges.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Like your $4,000? I would say that starting, it starts at like five. Five racks? Yo, I'll be real. It might take more than three months. Like, bro, five racks at $9 to $5 million, about $15 an hour. As by what, like $2,800 a month after taxes? Nah, son.
Starting point is 00:14:47 It's a matrimatical. Nah, so listen. A back for five bans, you ain't never. I'm not saying Wait though But Cleo Trapper says like You won't ask for it right right But I assume though like you were like
Starting point is 00:15:02 A savage, hard on men Fuck these niggas So Cleo is actually a big lover girl I am I'm a lover girl Really? I am How so Cleo When I'm dating Well yeah when I'm dating
Starting point is 00:15:19 I can only date one person Really? I can only date one person at a time. Like, I know some females, they could fuck with several niggas. But me specifically, I just, I feel like I can only put my attention and shit into one person. Like, I can't do the multiple niggas, bro. Harry. Harry Plotter, right?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Or Potter. Harry Potter. Wait, right? Harry Potter, like. Bruh, they sent me for failure. And they told me that Harry name was Harry Plotter. Who told you that? Nina?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Hey, Harry. It's definitely Harry Potter. Hey, buddy, hey, buddy. Harry Potter. Come in. Oh. I see. I'm sorry, y'all.
Starting point is 00:16:05 No, listen, no. Once he get, I have to get me. Harry loves me, though. This is my son, and I know what he do. He's going to get down there. Hey. He's going to pee. Come on, Harry.
Starting point is 00:16:15 I don't want him to do that. This rug is cute. I know, right? Okay, right. But speaking on one minute time, now, okay, does that count as the talking state? or you can still talk to more than one guy at the time, but only date one guy?
Starting point is 00:16:29 I could talk to more than one guy, but I can only date one guy. How do a guy, like, win? Okay, so, like, if Cleo is talking to, let's say, like, three, four, you know, like bachelor's, right? How do a guy stand out and win over Cleo? Um, he definitely has to be... Definitely got to have a bag, obviously.
Starting point is 00:16:51 spending it on me. Honestly, I can't say how rich because I like a nigga that just does shit for me and I don't really got to know X. Exactly. I don't really got an accent. I don't really got to know how much bread you get in. It's just don't show me signs of you being broke or not having it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You know what I'm saying? Like that's it. Okay, look. Okay, Russell, look, right? If a guy makes, let's say, a hundred care year, is that enough to fuck with Cleo? That's fine. I said that's, whatever he makes is fine. Just don't let me feel like you broke and you're not, like you can't step with me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:31 But I don't think a guy making a hundred-kare-year, can I step with you, though, yeah. Oh, damn. Right? Because like, a hundred-k-a-year. I didn't know. Right? It's about like a little over like six grand a month after taxes,
Starting point is 00:17:46 meaning like if you actually paying taxes with it, right, a little over six minutes a month, Your rent is by less than like a 2,500 cool, right? So now you got about like $4,000, right? Food, a car bill, light bill, water bill, right? You're making it seem like I'm so expensive. And in all reality, I don't ask niggas for shit. I'm waiting for you to show me what you could do.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I don't ask niggas for shit at all, like, at all. So it's like, if you're not doing what you got to do, I don't see, I don't see nothing. It's like, a better question is, does the skis? Scammers of the Bronx still have a chance with Cleo. Yes. Really? Wait, no, no, no. Hell no, hell no, Cleo.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You think scammers still? Wait, why was it the scammers? It's him saying skimmers of the Bronx. He's so annoying. I hope the Bronx still. I see. I love them, niggas, man. I see.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Right, but come on else. Let's not just. The schemers of NYC do you have a chance of me. What? Really? Why? Because they got money. and to blow.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Scammers spend the most. Yo, that's the fact. Skimmers spend the most, they do. Yo, listen, like, I was like 15 years old. And like, this is when I first found out about, like, scamming and NYC, right? Matter of fact? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Let me go back on that, actually. Because of those scammers spend the most, they be having their doubts. Yes. It'd be droughts with scammers sometimes. And it's like, now it's like, exactly. It's just um
Starting point is 00:19:24 like it's like what's going on. Oh, nah, bro, that would suck. I don't know if I would do it. You see, no, bro, but like that will suck and that's why girls should date 9 to 5 guys because if a scammer is like giving you like Felipe Chow and lobsters
Starting point is 00:19:39 like from December, January, February then March come along and he's like down bad and asking you for 20 bucks. You feel me? Nah, asking me for $20. Insane, no. No, why? What fuck?
Starting point is 00:19:50 What would you ask me for $20? Like, like, because, like, he's broke and spend like Felipe child money on you for like seven months? Nobody broke should be in a relationship, period. What? I don't give a fuck. Broke people need to be with broke people. Why? Make sense.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Well, wait, hold up now, bro. You're fin to get these chicks pissed off. Wow. Are you saying that a chick who, like, just look good? Now you know female Now you know females When it comes to women and men
Starting point is 00:20:26 That's two different things now Yes because all the women really needs is All she really need to do is look good A nigga with a bag is gonna Spang on her It don't even matter what the fuck she's got going on dead-ass That's just how niggas are Like I wouldn't be that way if I was a nigga
Starting point is 00:20:43 To keep it a buck but that's just how they are So men All they need is a bag And women, all they need is to look good. That's true, though. It is. Yo. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Nah, listen, like, bro, like, there's niggas right now who would take a chick from out those slums in the trenches and just. As long as she's a baddie. She could be a fucking brackhead. Niggas will clean her up. I don't know, man. These things are different, man. Yo, I'm starting to see this, though, like, all the bad chicks are coming out of, like,
Starting point is 00:21:12 New York now. This shit crazy. Like, yo, bro, like, you know, let me, like, you know, let me like find out, right? But it's been this way, though. Like, let's not avoid that. Like, let's not act like the baddies haven't been originated from New York.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Like, it's been that way. Now, though, it's like even more so than ever, right? Because right now, like, the top three chicks is all, like, is, like, all from New York. You feel me, right? But the top, like, what's not clicking that the top bitch has always been from New York? Nikki is the top bitch and she's from New York.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Been a top bitch for over a decade and Cardi, too. Yeah. So it's Cardi Nicky And Your Cardi Nikki Chinese Kitty She's the one right now That every rapper wants
Starting point is 00:21:55 And Ice Spice obviously You feel me Yeah bro Like it's crazy Damn bro Like yo listen You know like These other states
Starting point is 00:22:02 Got to step up Bro Because at this point Bro Like y'all Like y'all taking All the rich niggas You feel me?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Right I'm serious bro right No bro Bro Bro Wait wait for Okay so like
Starting point is 00:22:12 When did like Theo say Listen I'm finna hop on social media and like run this shit up. Like 2018. 2018. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And like what sparked that? Damn. I love this story because it's really a true story. Yeah, I mean, speak on it. Because, all right, and then the 2017 was real ghetto. Super ghetto. I was fighting a lot. Damn.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And it was just real fucking ghetto. I had like three fights stories that in the 2017. So one of them was really somebody that I was really fucked with and shit. So after I had beat her up and stuff, and shit. You beat her up? Yeah. God damn.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Be quiet, Harry. Hey, buddy. After I beat her up, I had noticed, like, money missing from my account. Like, somebody spent $300 on Fashion Nova. Damn. And what else? It was the $300 on Fashion Nova and somebody had hacked my Instagram. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And this was before I wasn't posting videos and shit. I was just regular bitch on Instagram for me. Deleted all my pictures. Change, like, relax your body. Please. Oh, she was the super op. Change my at name and shit. I'm just like, wait, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:20 How the fuck she did this? I was so fucking confused. So it's like, after I had got all that together and shit, I'm just like, let me do some new shit on Instagram. Like, I'm going to pop my fucking shit. Yeah. I was like, I'm not going to pop shit on Facebook no more because it was on Facebook that I was really like on live going and like,
Starting point is 00:23:36 yeah, bitch is really stow bright from me, really changed my. Your Facebook is wild. It was a lot. That live is still up. You can still find that live up. Yo, that shit is wild on Facebook, man. I had to get off that shit. dead ass and from all the shit
Starting point is 00:23:50 that I was popping on Facebook I just started popping all that shit on Instagram and bitches was gravitating to it because it was like it's like I'm spitting real shit nobody even know the situation though feel me I'm saying shit and I'm not shining light on no bitches I'm just talking you feel me and people relate yeah and people
Starting point is 00:24:06 relate so that's how started and then I was I started doing the music and shit because I was really tight I'm like I'm about to do a disc track yo I'm telling you all this shit came from all that drama From that. I said I'm about to do a disc track, y'all.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Yeah. Oh, listen, right? Yeah, come on. Hey, buddy, hey, buddy, hey, buddy, yeah, buddy, yeah. Come here, buddy. Oh, no. You know, he's going to come. Oh, be careful.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Come here, buddy. He hates my guts, probably. How are you? So I started the disc track. From the disc track, I started rapping. I started making the freestyle videos and shit. But I got tired of doing the freestyle videos. I'm like, let me just drop.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Like, I'm not to start dropping. So I put out a little... Bro, listen, like, that girl right now probably takes all the credit, right? And say, yeah, you know? No, I don't believe so. Nobody knows who the fuck that is. Who the fuck I'm talking about? Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Was that like 2019? That was 2018. Yeah. That was literally the top of 2018 when I started doing that. And then, like, the grammar thing happened. First of, Cleo, why did you, like... Like life. Destroy or dumb diggers.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Why? This is how the grandma started. The grandma video started because it was COVID. Yeah. We ain't had shit to do. Board as fuck in 2020, yeah. And everybody was talking about how they had online classes and shit. So I'm like, all right, let me give y'all Clio's online classes.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah. So I didn't even start with grandma. I had started with, let me teach y'all how to eat pussy. Let me teach y'all. Let me, I had a whole fucking diagram of a pussy trying to show niggas with On how to eat pussy You know how to do it And it was just like
Starting point is 00:25:51 Different video I was like What else I did? I did something like How niggas is out of pocket I drew like a diagram Like an earth pocket This pocket
Starting point is 00:26:01 That's pocket Y'all is out of pocket So it was like shit like that Just mad creatives Like bro like How do you even like think about Some shit like that Like that's like mad creative?
Starting point is 00:26:11 I'm a creator Nah that's a fact Right And then a grammar Right. So, okay, so like, what inspired that? Was it just like a dumb nigga you were talking to, some dumb friends? I literally just told you. I just, from there, I'm just like, you know what, let me just do that.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. Like, I'm a creator. Shit just comes to me. And I, it came to me one day and I told my friend who's a, my friend who's a photographer in the A, I told him like, yo, take me the, um, to fucking Staples real quick. Let me go get something. I walked out with a white boy. Oh, okay. Listen, listen, man.
Starting point is 00:26:44 He loves me. And nah, he fuck with you. I see you. See, man. Wait, wait, wait. No, right. But after that video, though, like, your shit went, went, like, stupid, right?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Like. Mm-hmm. And it's crazy. I'm not gonna lie. My shit been going stupid for years. It's just that my page got deleted. Really? My page got deleted the end in the 2019.
Starting point is 00:27:04 So everything I was doing in 2018 and even, like, the whole 2019, all that shit was going. I'm like, damn, I'm done. Wait, hold up. Hold up. So my page just got taken down because I'm hating ass nigger called VladTV, you feel right?
Starting point is 00:27:20 But how did you build like it back though? A lot of people already was fucking with me because the page that I had before was already getting really, really big. Like I had like 300K followers on there already. So I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:27:36 everybody started hitting me on Twitter and they're like, where's your page? Where's your page? So I'm just like, you know, let me just make another Instagram. So I just started reposting. in the videos that I had already, like, in my phone. And that's, it just picked back up.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Really? Just picked right back up. Yo, listen, man, like, I need your advice, bro, because we almost hit $100K on my news page. We got taken down. But I was shocked, though, because, like, my, like, page started from, like, brand new to, like, 13K in, like, a month now. So, like, you know, so, you know, so, you know, so, you know, so, you know, so, you know, so, like, that's decent, man. But, yeah, bro, like, they hate on us, bro. Wait, so, like, exactly, like, why did your page page to take?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Check it out. Haters, obviously. It was saying that I was doing inappropriate shit. Oh, bully niggas? It was just, yeah, like people were flagging my shit. Really? It was flagging my shit. Those, those, yo, listen, hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Like, he's talking about me as fuck. I came back harder, though. That's what I love the most about me. Like, I can't give up at all. Like, I really, I just went harder. No funny shit. Like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yo. Hey, so, like, I think it's like 2017, right? Act, like, acts like boom gang. Yo, man. Like, you have. A million followers now, right? Had you gotten paid off your IG? And at this time, he said, nah, bro, like, I make shit, right?
Starting point is 00:28:54 So, like, how did Cleo get the bag from my IG? I, all right, ending, not ending, towards the, like, June, July 2020. Yeah. I started selling shit. Oh, like, like, clothes and shit like that? Yes, e-commerce is the fucking bag, especially when you have. I see that, too, by the way, like, I was like, like, like, on, like, like on your store.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I think it's like, so like after like like the Casa Nostream, I went to your gram and I went to your store, right? Yeah, you know, dope stuff. Oh, I'm like, wait, what do you say? Yeah, me, man. No, but a lot of shit is not on my store or my IG page. So, yeah, basically I started selling even little shit like bonnet, sloths. I started selling.
Starting point is 00:29:38 You was hustler. Yes, but it's like when you have mad followers and you're selling, to them. Let me tell you something. It's the best thing I ever did. That shit just started bringing in bread, mad, quick, mad, easy. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, what the fuck? I should have been at this. Smir shit.
Starting point is 00:29:59 At that time, though, like, who was that first big check? What you mean? Like, what, like, like, I'm 20,000, 40,000? No, it wasn't even, it wasn't that big. No? Like, I was making, I made like 5K in sales in that month. No, no, no. That's tremendous.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It just started. It just started. So that was pretty fucking big to me. Oh, yeah. I often moved from that shit. Oh, really? Yeah. I often moved that summer.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Where, like the Jersey? No, I moved to the A. Really? And I've been there ever since. Best move in my life. Yo, like, that's so smart, right? Because I'd be asking, like, every. rapper. Like, why do you get signed
Starting point is 00:30:43 and you're still in the project making ID loss, right? Because, right? Right? Like, it's dumb to me, right? It's kind of scary and they got big ass fucking chains and they end the fucking project. You can see the project kitchen. They're making videos and shit in the kitchen. It looks fucking crazy. I don't be understanding it, right? Why'd you move to the A, though?
Starting point is 00:31:00 I moved to the A. A. A. A nigger? No. I moved to the A to get away from a nigger. Really? Yes. That's when I broke up with my boyfriend. And, I I wanted to move because that and I was so fucking small. It reminded me of him.
Starting point is 00:31:17 So I left. And from there, it ended up being a good career move, actually. Yeah. You feel, me? Getting to meet people, I started giving my products to people and shit that I was meeting. More sales, more networking, more bookings. It was just, it was up from there. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:31:33 That guy is probably sick right now because I'll be real. If I see my shorty IG is bubbling like this. I don't care We cool, we cool Bro, listen, I don't care What she did I ain't leaving no shorty With no like 500K
Starting point is 00:31:51 Plus million Man come on, bro And he just like Left you like Or you left him? No, it wasn't even That I kind of broke up with him
Starting point is 00:32:01 Because I went on vacation To Miami for my birthday And he was just Like as soon as I left It was just being mad annoying Like oh You fucking niggas in Miami I'm a lot
Starting point is 00:32:11 like, yo, you was annoying, like, on my birthday, too. Like, I can't even enjoy myself. I mean, come on now. Going to Miami on your birthday while having a nigga is wild. No, the fuck is not, because he could have came. It's not like I told him not to come. Oh, got you. He just decided not to come.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Gotcha. I'm still going to enjoy myself on my birthday and my best friend live out there, so I was with her. I was on the phone with that nigga. I'm over here with. Huh? Why did the club and say you on the phone with him? I don't do clubs like that.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I mean, I don't even think I went to the club while I was out there. I did like some calm-ass boat shit with like three girls but I was on the phone with him and shit he was just being really fucking insecure and it was just really being annoying and he came out of nowhere like oh I had niggas in the back swear to God there damn that's kind of like that's OD
Starting point is 00:32:56 super oldie ain't no niggas even there so I was just like yeah we gotta like feel me but it was only like well I tell you this happened around like May 15thish yeah he got a girlfriend the next week the next week,
Starting point is 00:33:12 yo, this nigga, like, he got to have some motion, though. You feel what? Like, what? Like, he's like a rapper, a scammer. He's a scammer. Got you. That's why he didn't care, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Because I'm thinking, listen. That's why he didn't care. Yeah, listen, because, bro, a regular- He kid. Oh, oh, shit. He just did that to get me mad. Yo. But it worked.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It worked. And you say, you know what, bro? I'm done with this shit. Bye-bye. Yeah, like, I really came. I came back home around, like, the beginning of June, like June 2nd, 3rd, whatever. And he really had a whole girlfriend, like,
Starting point is 00:33:44 and I seen her driving his car. And this activated me. Like, I'm like, yeah, I'm out. Wait, hold up, now. What kind of car? A Bentley. A Bima. Woo!
Starting point is 00:33:53 That her nigga got some money, bro. Yo, listen, man. Listen. Anyway. To all you rappers and content creators, he'll be telling me, yo, bro, have you seen Cleo? Because trust me, bro, like, now,
Starting point is 00:34:08 listen, trust me, bro. Like right now, like, there's, like, like, mad conversations now about clear, right? And, like, that's how I knew, like, you was about to, like, like, like, like, like, like, take off. Because it's mad, like, rap as a concert creator's not saying, yo, bro, like, she, like, yo, like, she different now, right? Brough, these niggas don't stand a chance, bro, right? Because if you was, like, fucking with niggas back then who had a beamer, right now, like, the requirement is ditty, right? That's it. Diddy.
Starting point is 00:34:40 He said Diddy. Come on. No, though, but rich niggas only, please, thank you. Which niggas only, make that. Yo, okay, yo, but bro, bro. What, no, bro, sis, right? Speak on the music, man, because... Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yo, I did not know you was that nice. Thank you. And, like, I found out that you was this nice by having to go back and listen to shit like that, right? No. Event two is the BET. shit. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah, the VT cyphal was fun. But I was mad for you. know why? Why? I'm like, bro, like, Clio is an actual rapper.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Right. That's what I said. But I, let me tell you why I wasn't that mad. When I pulled up, I was mad, confused because I didn't even know
Starting point is 00:35:25 that was what it was going to give. So I was mad confused. I'm like, wait, there was one girl that actually, you know, rap and shit like that. The girl from, from the Shah,
Starting point is 00:35:34 she'd be spitting. So I wasn't, like, too, taken back from it. But a lot of people People don't know I rap because I kind of like dim the light. And of course, I'm funny. I dim the light on my rapping to be a shit popper. I don't call myself a comedian.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'm not a comedian at all. People think I'm a comedian. I'm not a comedian at all. I'm naturally funny. Yeah, of course. And I'm a rapper. So it's like I pop my shit and it's funny. Like, you know, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I can never get up on a stage and try to make people laugh. Like, it will never give them. No, no, like, no, like. No, like, I'm sure you can, right? Like, I'm just hilarious. I won't ever do some sort of comedian tour. Like, I will never do no shit like that. I would never do stand up.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Like, what? Listen, listen. I would never do stand up because that's not my lane. Got you. I just told you I'm naturally funny. It don't give stand up. Yes, right? But, again, but I was so mad.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I'm like, bro, like, y'all got like, in terms of females from New York, like, right? And like, who do that rap and shit, bro, like. Like, you probably like, like what, like like like like top five right now? Because again, I would assume you actually write your own shit, right? Yeah, I write my own shit. Okay, right? Just based off of that, you definitely right now top five.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm humble, but if you want to jack that? No, listen, I'm jacking it, right? Cleo top five, right? So for Cleo to be like, top five, right? So for them to like say, yo, Cleo. I'm definitely top five in New York right now when it comes to anything. My name definitely is ringing the best. Looks like comedian shit.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Man, everything, right? Simple. But, but listen, man, but I was mad, right? Why? As your brother. As your brother. Again, I love you, sis, right? So as your brother, man, I'm like, bro,
Starting point is 00:37:21 y'all took a top-five female rapper right now in the fucking city. But I haven't, but you got to understand something. I haven't been dropping. It's like the light, the light on my rapping is not, it wasn't being shined around that. They should know, though. They should, but I'm not shocked that a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:37:37 don't know because a lot of people don't dig into your page like that. They go on your page, they look around at what's already there. And even when, even last year, last year was the last time I had dropped the song. I dropped the song in the video and it did numbers, you feel me? Yeah. But it's like I don't, I wouldn't promote it. I don't do like a whole rollout. I probably post that shit when it drop and then never post it again.
Starting point is 00:37:57 So I'm not surprised that people don't know certain songs and shit like that, but I do know that when I do post it, it do numbers. Of course. So my whole thing is just being consistent. being consistent with it. And that's what I'm on right now. I'm on some real consistent shit with my music. That's consistent with it. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Okay, right. So then, like, so after you heard, like, the other, like, fucking female's rapping, right? Right. Were you like, damn, bro, like, yo, these holes, they suck, bro, compared to me, man. I mean, they're not rapists, so it's like, whatever. They're not rapists, so it's not like I could really judge them on something. Like, oh, yeah, you bitch are just trash. Like, they're not rappers, though.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But, but, bro, like, that shit was kind of like, bro, bro. Like they had fucking like designers there Social media stars Yeah everybody there It was a big ass I seen Dapper Dian Really? You met everybody Dapper Dian was there
Starting point is 00:38:46 That took that's really what I was like Is Dapitin about to rap Y'all really got everybody rapping Yeah Wait wait like Did he rap? No I didn't even stay that long
Starting point is 00:38:57 Maybe he did rap I don't know But I know they had him there Yeah Man Now right Outside of Cleo who would you say is
Starting point is 00:39:08 let's say like top five rappers right now male or females in New York male or female? Yeah Top from I would say I had to think real hard because there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:39:26 doing their big ones My five is this right right so like Let me hear your five Okay Shaw EK Again this is like No order
Starting point is 00:39:35 Mm-hmm Shai okay No order is cool Yeah, Shah E.K. Lower T.J. for show. I'll have to give it to Nikki, but she moved from New York, right? Or she's still there? I'm not sure. Nikki probably got a crib out there.
Starting point is 00:39:49 But let's not put Nikki in it because we know Nikki's, like, the queen of rap. So it's like, queen. Okay. Okay. You know, so it's Sha E.K., Dougie B., K-Flock got to go there. You feel of me? Mm-hmm. Little TJ, and just my personal favorite, I'm biased, has to go to use G's. Use?
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. Like, like, he's kind of like a Bronx drawer rapper, right? Like the crazy voice. Like, bro, his voice go crazy. Like, he's growling at you while rapping. I think I've came across this boy page before he got here. Yes, hair. Oh, yeah, he's cute.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I know. Really? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. You think, think you, Jesus is cute? He looked cute when I stumbled across his page. My nigga, bro. You's geez.
Starting point is 00:40:38 My. Wait, not too clapping for him. My name. My name. Yo, yo, yo. You listen, I can set that up, though. Anyway. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:40:49 I can set it up. I don't think I'll ever date a rapper. Why not? I think I'm good of that. Anyway, that's my top five. Uh-huh. And this is not because. I fuck with her. I genuinely
Starting point is 00:41:03 am been watching the growth and I love her and been watching her go from where she was before to where she's at right now, Lola. Lola Brooke. Okay. I fuck with her. Don't play with it. Don't play with it. Okay. Okay. Let me pick a nigga now. I fuck
Starting point is 00:41:19 with busy. Busy banks or who? Yeah, busy banks. Damn, I miss Pop. I was about to say Pop. I know, man. I know Pots smoke. Favie's still doing his thing. Fobby's still holding it down.
Starting point is 00:41:36 No funny shit. I give it to Fivie. For Brooklyn? For New York. I'll be real, man. Like, it's looking real dim for, like, Brooklyn drill. Like, like, that shit is out of style. Like, nobody listen to that shit anymore, man.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But Favie don't do Brooklyn drill no more. So, you know? I mean, I fuck with the Bronx drill, niggas. I'm not going to lie. Don't really bump that shit like that, though. What, Bronx drill? I don't really be bumping that shit like that. Let me tell you,
Starting point is 00:42:04 you wouldn't even imagine this shit I'd be listening to, but it don't be that heavy. Now, listen, I can almost guarantee, like, it's probably like Green Day, right? Really? Yo, hold up, listen, bro, that's my type of shit.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Rather listen to the cold play. That's real. Listen to Maroon. I rather listen to. Maroon five? Five? Really. How about Afro beef still?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Come on now. Oh, yeah. Burn up, boy. Come on now. Come on, Berna, Wiz. You know that shit. I love Apple Beets. You must be like pulling out your hair like, yo, seeing people like trying, like trying to like pronounce like I, Ebo and like Ashawo.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Yeah, Ibo and Shao. Yeah, Ibo and Shao, right? Bruh, that song dropped and like, first off, nobody knows the lyrics. Nobody. I'm not surprised. I don't really know the lyrics like that. Really? What?
Starting point is 00:43:02 What? But you're asking like Nigerian, though. And I am? Wait, do you like speak? You speak like, uh, like, like, like. I don't speak any language, no. I, I could, I could do the broken English and stuff, but. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Wait, though, give me your best, like, Nigerian accent. Come on. I know you got it. You can literally hear my accent and, like, I pull it out sometimes in my videos. Hey, okay, look, like, okay, look at this. Oh, God. Right, come on now, right? Uh-oha.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Yeah, man. What's that? Oga means like a chief, right? Mm-hmm. Ah, ah. O'Gai, oh, you okay. Come on now, that's my Nigerian accent. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:43:48 My librarian accent is, you know, my water to the, you're right? You feel me? Right, right? Like, you're right? Right, like. You got to go up with Bay Library and so it's like... Bro, there's mad, bro, like...
Starting point is 00:44:00 I'm from Park Hill. So there's mad African. Oh. She's a barber from there, right? I think Barbara. You know so many people. It's like you're saying so many standout people. Don't nobody know them.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yo, no, no, no. It's, uh. Yeah. I think her name is Barbara Sando. Yeah. Wait. You know what? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Bro, that's my sister. Like, that's like my sister sister. I see that that you really be out there. Yo, listen. I should have called them like before this and just get like all the scoop on clear, you feel what I'm not. You're not going to get any scoop from like, all the scoop, like, yo, listen. I've never been that type of person to have mad tea
Starting point is 00:44:39 in the streets, you know, really? He's going to get a scoop for me. Like, he's bugging. Like, like, oh, but, but no, like, you're a top five because they might get mad, right, feel what I mean? Your top five New York. Oh, yeah. Is Lola? I said Lola, I said, busy, and I said Fobby.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah. Damn, I love so many New York rappers. I cannot really. You got a gift two more. Come on. I cannot do that. They're going to be mad at you like, oh, damn, person, she ain't named me, for me? Love, my name me. Come on a bit. It's not even about that shit.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Listen to, like, there's like A. Buggy, L'O.T.J., you know, there's those two? I mean, I love A. Buggy, and I fuck with Lil T.J. And shit, like, I can't put them down right now, though. I, last two. Because, I don't know. Come on, last two. I don't know what to say. I like Cape Flod.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Okay, yeah, okay. And I like Be Love. Okay, five right there. Be Love, KFlock, Busy, Blank, Lola, and Fabio. But that's not like my top five, though. Who's your top five then? Um, I think. You're fin to put, like, in all the old niggas who used to rap, right?
Starting point is 00:45:59 Feel of me? Right. I'm that fab. Yo, why do every New York chick love fap? I love FAPB. Like the stereotype for like... FAP will never go out of style. Let me put FAB there.
Starting point is 00:46:12 FAB? As your number four. Okay, last one. Who's five? Fab. Five, I'm going to say... Hmm. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Bronx, maybe. You showed a Bronx no love during the segment. What do you mean? I show the Bronx. You said Lola, Busy Bay, Favio, Fabb, and then...
Starting point is 00:46:37 Ain't no Bronx artist, man, you know, I'm just saying. You want a Bronx artist. Nah, no, no, no. I love the Bronx, man. I don't want to say shit that people would expect me to. Aye, I, all, all, all. Who? Like, look, man, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:50 But Ice is definitely doing her thing. Let me put her in there. Your Ice Spice? Yeah. You're listing the right hair. Okay, so, like, why do you think people hate on her so much? Um, I think people hate on her so much because. they just mad.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I think they just mad about the way she came up. Maybe they just mad that it, like, the way it just happens for her. Some people wish it could be like that for them. Yeah. No funny shit. Like, a lot of people, I've seen a lot of people
Starting point is 00:47:21 tweeting shit like, oh, I'm out here doing this, this, that, and y'all got people like this blowing up and shit like that. It's just a lot of corny weird shit. Yeah, Matt hate the shit. Yeah, like, come on. First of all, all you got to do is
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's stay on your fucking grind. No funny shit. If you don't got it, you don't fucking got it. Like, word. But if you do, stay consistent, and I'm pretty sure you're going to get recognized. Like, feel me? It's all a matter of time. Like, everybody's going to have their time.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Don't try to take away from somebody else. Tom and Shine. Like, you feel me? Like, that shit is whack. And she's doing her thing. She worked for her spot. Yeah, she's trying. And just because you ain't know that she's been working,
Starting point is 00:48:02 doesn't mean it just happened out of nowhere for her. Like, she's been doing her shit. Yeah, right. So, like, well, I knew that, like, she been grinding, like, because, like, again, like, the, like. What's that liquor? No, no. Okay, he probably thirsty.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Can he have that? Nah. He might as well. I think he already put his nose in it. Right? No, but, like, I knew, like, she was grinding because the Bronx, nigga that, like, I, like, really fuck with? Like, you, geez?
Starting point is 00:48:29 He, man, bro. He shot and shot at her every day on the gram, bro. You feel what I mean? Like. I'm fucking screaming. Not every fucking day. No, no, no. But they were kind of like, you know, like, cool.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Oh. And then once she got big, man, I said, damn you, G. Like, Drake just flew her out. My nigga is over for you, but. I'm screaming. Bro. Right? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:52 No, right. But also, too, is like, I hate people like hate on it, right? Because like this, right? Because, look, like, Parris Hill Inn. And Kim Kay, they got rich and famous just being cute, right? So when I see other black females say, yeah. There's a lot of people famous for that, though. There's a lot of people famous for just looking good, though.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, right. Yeah, right. But, though, it's our own people would say, nah, like, that black girl shouldn't, you know, like, I don't understand, right, like, while we're okay with Kim Kardashian and Paris Hill and just being paid to be cute, but then when, like, let's say, Ice Spike start rapping,
Starting point is 00:49:28 it's, ah, you feel what I'm? Like, she's only hot because she's hot. One, no, right? Because the song's actually bang, right? But, you know, but, like, why do we hate each other? You feel what I don't get it, man, you feel me? No funny shit. Yo, bud, guess what, though?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Ice spice is also Nigerian. I didn't know. No? I seen her tweet, though, but I didn't know. Really? How close are y'all? She never told me that, though. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:53 I was kind of confused, too, when she tweets that. I'm like, did she tell me. She's half. She told me her best friend was. I remember when I was talking about me being Nigerian, And she was like, yeah, my husband's Nigerian. But I mean, she's Nigerian, then, period. She's probably trolling the fuck-out niggas, man, right?
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like... Maybe she didn't... She don't got to be trolling. Maybe she did an ancestry thing or something. Nah, nah, like half. No, right? Yeah, listen, she said she's half Nigerian. Which, I'll be real.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Do I see half Nigerian? Maybe if she's evil, right? Because they're like mad light skin and shit, right? I don't know And then she's Dominican Yeah Are you Yorba or like Iba Uh-oh
Starting point is 00:50:37 Uh-oh? Yo, I don't know what that is Like I only know Eddo Binni City I know two tribes Well, you're Liberians So I didn't expect you to know Y'all wait wait wait wait
Starting point is 00:50:48 But like Okay but like Speaking of librarians though Like okay so like you grew up with Like Mad Liberians right Now What kind of people are we Quiet
Starting point is 00:50:58 Charming? No y'all are very very loud and very funny. Loud or funny? Mad funny. Really? I don't know any librarian that's not funny. Funny as fuck.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Like, O.D. I can't imagine a funny-ass librarian, though, right? Because, like, they're not really... What do you mean? You can't imagine. Like, they're not really, like, you know, like... Liberians are mad, funny. You're chatting. But the men or the females? Females.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Nah, bro. A funny... Like, like... Okay, funny like how, though, like, are they great with telling jokes there? They're just like... Funny. Yeah. You listen, man, I need the...
Starting point is 00:51:38 Well, no. Maybe you just... You need to come to park here. You're not... You're from North Dakota. Like, we... I know, but... Listen, me, North Dakota.
Starting point is 00:51:45 What the fucking Dakota, like? Yo, bro, it's mad... It's mad Native Americans there. It's barely black folks. Oh, that's good. That's good. A place with is mad Native Americans. Like, that's nice because what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:51:58 They tried to kill them off. Yo, that story is wild as fuck, bro. Like, them niggins came. That manifest destiny shit is real crazy. That shit wild as hell, right? And they made it seem like it was like a calling from the Lord that they should move west. Like, nah. That story blows mind.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Brough, that shit is devious, right? Yo, also, too, like, I see now that, like, you're now expanding, like, working with more, like, content creators. I've seen, like, you and Terry reloaded, right? Like. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I've never been. a collab person. Even when, I think it was because
Starting point is 00:52:33 I was living on Staten Island, honestly. Yeah. So it's like I wasn't really meeting people. People out there don't really do nothing on social media for real. Like nobody that lives out there is really doing shit that I'm doing. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:52:47 I know there's rappers and shit coming out from there like Abby and the wolf is Joey. There's and Leia, there's entertaining and stuff. But yeah. So I never really like collabed with anybody out there. It wasn't until, like, I moved to the A where I really started, like,
Starting point is 00:53:04 linking up more with people and shit like that. Yeah. Yeah, so Terry actually, like, lives in A, too, right? No, he lives in, he lives in Florida. Yeah. Yeah, so I went to Florida to go see my best friend who lives out there. Yeah. And I was just like, girl, let's go fucking link to me.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh, sure. Okay, so you guys are actually, like, cooling friends. Yeah, not on something. No, that was the first time that we met. Oh, right? wrote him like where you at? Yeah. We need to make a video.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And it's crazy too because I had shared multiple videos of Terry like in one like I had like a thread of him. I'm like y'all need to tune in. So I put a lot of people onto him too. So I'm like, yeah, they're going to want to see us do some shit and I would love
Starting point is 00:53:47 to do some shit with him because he's mad funny. Is he like that off camera? Like the. Tabina? Yeah. If he's Tabina off camera. Yeah. No, the fuck he's not Tabinio.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Yo, like, you listen, man, like, he plays that shit so fucking well that, like, it's hard to imagine him like being anybody else. You feel what I? He eats that shit, dead ass. But no, he's not to be in your off camera. You're hilarious. Is he just, like, super masculine, like, off camera now? Like, he's just, hurr, what's up? It don't get rar because he's not from New York.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah. They is. Aggressive. Nah, but he, I mean, I mean, it don't get real, but, like, he's a man. He's not to be in yo all day. Yeah. Yo. Like, Martin's like Martin Lawrence and, and what's her name?
Starting point is 00:54:36 The, the bitch that he played inside Martin. Yo, I'd never watch Martin. Oh, that's you. You know that man, I tuned in a little bit. Right. Yo, you listen, right? So a picture of yours got sent to my group chat, probably like, I'll say, I said like two months ago, right? What picture?
Starting point is 00:54:56 IG shit, right? I think you were like laying, you were like laying down. It was like, like, with the ass out, right? Now, right? Now, listen though, right? So, so, like, they say, yo, Krio finally got a BBL. Wait, man, I ain't get no fucking BBO. I was like, I don't know, Mae, feel me?
Starting point is 00:55:21 I don't got no fucking Bia. It's the Nigerian in there, bro. That shit on me. No, there's no BBI. All natural. body, nothing too crazy. All natural. Nothing bad, nothing too big and oversized
Starting point is 00:55:36 and not messing. Yo, but, but, you know, and there's now this thing called a skinny BBL. Oh, I was, I was gonna get into that. Why? I was, because, you know, as you get lit and shit, they start hanging you up.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah. They start hanging you up. They want to give you a free fucking BBL. It's like, How could I deny? How can I deny? But I went through with it halfway. I'm, like, taking the pictures and shit.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And I'm, like, taking the pictures and shit. I'm looking at myself in the mirror. Like, I'm sorry. It's already giving body. Yeah, of course. You feel me? So when I left, I had just never came back. Nah?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah. Wait, though. Like, okay, so, like, they were going to do it for free? They were going to do it for free. Oh. They was going to do it for free, and they was asking for, like, I got this shit too, like whole bunch of posts, a whole bunch of videos, a whole bunch of lives
Starting point is 00:56:34 and stories and shit. I'm like, I don't really want niggas in my favorite right that, no shit. I know. But then again, it's like I could pay for my own BBI. I don't really want that shit, though, too. Like, you feel me? I don't really want that shit. I'm dead ass going to pay for that shit. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Because right now it's like, people already like, think you got one. Who do fuck think that? Stop lying. I'm telling you, bro. It's my phone? Oh, no. Who the fuck think that?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Y'all think I got a motherfucking BBO? I just got thick on you fucking hos. Are you stupid? It isn't, bro. It's not even charged. Listen, I ain't get no fucking BBO. Nah, no, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:16 It's true, though. Like, people like... But, hey, man, you feel what I mean? Like, since never got one, man. Yo, bro. I've had you here now for, like, two hours, I think. Right? Nah, we've been here for a minute.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I ain't gonna like... I know, man. Pham. Like, what's coming up? man, feel I'm like, like, what's next? Because first off, I want more music, you feel me? Like, I definitely want, like, more drill shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:57:40 Please. Let me tell you, I say, I ain't a drill rapper. Come against the drill shit, though. I ain't a drill rapper. I could dibble dabble in it because I'm from New York. The BT shit was fire. You feel me, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 The BET shit was fire. Thank you. I could dibble and dabble in it because it's like I'm from New York, so that shit really do come natural to me. Like, I'd be feeling that drill shit in my bones. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm not categorical. as a drill rapper.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I could fuck with it. But I'm a rapper, like, a rap, like, but not a drill rapper. Nah? Yeah. Please do more drill shit, though.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I am definitely going to do more drill shit, but I'm, that's not the only, like, there's people, huh? What's your lane, like, is it like a what,
Starting point is 00:58:22 like a singer, melodic shit? No, it's not, it's not even, actually, I am trying to get more into the melodic shit, but it's not even like a melodic shit. It's more like a pop shit.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's more like a, but I could call it like a girly trap. I could call it that. A girly track. That's a cute way to categorize it. Yeah, like, I just be popping my shit, but we're like, I could do it on any beat. Woo!
Starting point is 00:58:47 Wait. And like, no, yo, right, listen, like, you're so cold as a rapper. Again, like, I don't mean, like, think that most people even, like, like, fucking know the shit right now, right? Like, like, you were like, your code as fuck as a rapper. Now, like, did you always write your own shit or was it ever time where, like, you know? I always wrote my own shit.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Ain't nobody ever write for me. And don't even get me wrong. Like, I don't oppose from that. Like, witches can have their writers. That's fine. Like, you feel me? And there's a lot of people that we fuck with that have writers.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And it's like, it's nothing wrong with having an extra person helping you because that's how a lot of heat get created. Yeah. You know, but. But you can't, like, lie about it, though, to say like, bro, there's a lot of chicks that got like exposed the last like two months, right?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Word. Nikki. You could look right in my fucking notes. I don't fucking play. Bro. Nikki told us that, listen, bro, I almost like passed out when Nikki told us that Lado had writers. I said, no way, bro. No way, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Big Lado? Bro, my mouth dropped to the floor, bro. Because, like, I always like instead of her. I bet it did drop to the floor. Right? I mean, like I said, though, if somebody has a writer, I'm not opposed to it. I'm not on something like, oh, bitches can't rap because they got a writer, you feel what I'm saying? Because rapping nowadays, it really be more so about the delivery and the flow.
Starting point is 01:00:16 It don't even really be about the lyrics no more. I remember when I will really be spitting and shit, people wouldn't even fucking really like, because they like, you know, like maybe it's just too much for them. So I even started, I even started dumbing down my raps too. Like, less is more. Less is more. That's why I started telling myself, like, I don't even got to put all that in there.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I'm going to make it shorter, you know? But I peep that shit. Like, people don't care for lyrics these days. No. But you're a rapper. You see, right? But you're a rapido, right? Like, where, like, I respect your pen because, like,
Starting point is 01:00:50 you don't just rap about, like, fucking niggas, pussy good, bags. Right? Like, you actually got fucking, like bars, right? So it's kind of like, do you always like, do you like feel like you have to like kind of like
Starting point is 01:01:04 give the Chicksos type of songs like the pussy goods, spit a bag type of shit? Don't get it twisted. I'm kind of confused where that's really stemming from. Maybe because what's been coming out recently. But I definitely talk about pussy and shit in my music. Let me drop first before y'all.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Let's not go off for my free dogs and shit. No? Yeah, like I'm a woman at the end of the day. I'm going to talk about, I'm a talk about myself. I'm gonna talk about what I do Like you feel me Same way niggas talk about fucking bitches
Starting point is 01:01:33 If niggas could talk about shit like that Like females could talk about that shit too We could talk about whatever the fuck we want to talk about It's your life you feel me Niggins is gonna get tired of it Because it's not their fucking music Like you feel me But it's just like whatever
Starting point is 01:01:48 I really don't understand Why men really care so much about what women rap about It's like y'all literally rap about The same fucking thing But it's just that you're men Like you feel me mean? Nah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah, it's like, what the actual fuck is the problem here? I don't see it. Yo, well, one, like, that's true, right? And then two, now, you know, like, there's rappers now, right? Where it's kind of like, there's, like, there's, like, female rappers now
Starting point is 01:02:13 where, like, they're, like, unisex, right? Meaning, like, we can vibe to, like, anyone of their songs, right? Like, Dreezy and Gloria. Like, like, those are two chicks that, like, they actually, like, talk that shit, right? I love Dreezy and I fuck with Grovilla. That's a fact.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yo. for relief, right? Dreezy. I always say this and like it gets me mad as fuck, right? She's so talented, she's bad as fuck, pretty as fuck, right? I feel like colorism
Starting point is 01:02:42 is one of the main reasons why like she's not, I guess, as big, as big as she should be, right? What's your take on that, man? Like, on past Dreezy, like, do you feel like... Past Dreezy, dark skins as a whole in the music industry? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Yeah, you are right, right? about that. I'm not even going to say you could be right about that. You are right about that. To a certain extent, I feel like, I feel like, well, I can't really say because I just recently started really like getting in tune with Dreasy probably like a year ago or so when I actually like became cool with her. So I really can't say much. I would say that a lot of people do take a break from music and that break can sometimes affect their career.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah, it feels like hurt you, right? Yeah, sometimes that could be sometimes with people, but you're 100% right. Yeah. Dark skins do get the shorter end of the stick in every aspect of everything sometimes.
Starting point is 01:03:45 So it's like... Yeah, man. Yo, I mean, I'm not fazed by it. I'm not fazed. Shit like that just make me want to shit. You get applauded though, right? Make me when the shit on niggas going harder But why do I gotta go harder though?
Starting point is 01:04:00 But you get like no Okay Now like I'm always gonna go out I'm always gonna push myself Yeah right Nah but you get like no real like Like like no real like
Starting point is 01:04:09 Like for example Like when you was on on like Hotstream right The fucking Reddit was gas I'm talking about gassing you Like yo who's her who Yeah I ain't gonna live
Starting point is 01:04:22 The Reddit yeah Was gassing you up I didn't know But I've seen a lot of hate from that stream. Word? Yeah. It was people talking about, oh, why is she there? Why she?
Starting point is 01:04:34 It looked like she's hating. Why is she there? I seen a lot of that. But I was just like, okay, because I know that I got asked to come. And it's just like, like, what the fuck? I'm here supporting my friend. I didn't even, when I asked me to come and shit, I was just like, who's that? But I remember Kai because of that little Uzi video
Starting point is 01:04:57 that had went viral that was mad funny So I was just like, yeah Let's just, yeah, like we all from New York Let's do that shit. Turn up. No, no, it's a two from the Bronx one from St. Island. Yeah, like it was definitely a vibe though.
Starting point is 01:05:09 I definitely fucked with it. But, you know, a lot of people was weird. Some people obviously don't like black girls and yes, most of them be kids. And, you know, a lot of people who is on ice dick so they probably just want their eyes. And it's fun. Like, I'm not, could never.
Starting point is 01:05:24 ever be mad. But yeah, I people, I people lie this shit from people. You read hate comments too? If I read hate comments. Yeah, like, I see his comments. I don't look for hate comments, though. You see it?
Starting point is 01:05:37 I see hate comments, though. Listen, like, I don't read. And I block bitches. Wait, hold, do you be blocking, like, fans? I block people, bro. I definitely do because why are you here if you don't fuck with me. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:49 You should not be here. Oh, Harry, you're going to start fucking this down? It is now? Yeah. He's positioning it to get plucked. Oh, man. But listen, man, like, I don't read that shit. I don't even like, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:06:03 Yo, but, man, listen, man, like, it's been one hour in like 30 minutes. I apologize to keeping you so long, Cleo. It's cool. Man, listen, man, follow her at Cleo what? Like Cleo Trapper, right? Follow me at I am Cleo Trapper on Instagram. Cleo Trapper, Cleo Trapper, Cleo Trapper. But film me, stream out music.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Cleo's rap, New rapper everywhere. And, yeah, more shit dropping this month, next month. You know, we're going heavy fourth quarter. So, let's see that. Yeah, listen, I can guarantee you, man. She's going to be one of the biggest female rappers to ever do this shit, man. So watch up for Cleo. Trapper, not Patrick.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Trapper, all right? No jumper coolest podcast in the world. Peace out, man.

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