No Jumper - Consequence on Kanye West, Tribe Called Quest, Chris Rock, 192 Records & More!

Episode Date: September 29, 2024

Sharp links up with Consequence to talk about his latest music, going to China with Kanye, his son being a rapper, Tribe Called Quest, and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I'm a Queens brother in the building, man. Got a consequence in the building, man. How you feeling, brother? Everything is great. It's a blessing to have you here, man, you know,

and to come and share the mic with you one time, man. And chop it up with you. It really is a blessing. Love. I appreciate the hospitality. No, most definitely. How was your traveling? Have you been here or you?

Well, I came from this. This is the Told You So, hoodie. I'm not hip, my bad. Let me put you on a G real quick. So I just came, I flew in from China. I was in Haku, China for Kanye and Todd Dallas, I was listening to a party in China. So this is the merch.

I said, hey, you know, we're on. or something brand new, you know, for the people to check out or whatever, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I've been moving. I got my new album dropping September 27th. It's called Nighting Doing Business with You on my label, one or two records. It's my first release as a CEO. Got that one dropping on the 27th? 27th.

Okay. 100%. Yeah, yeah. So, actually, it features Yay on it. Ryan W. Melly, my son, Caden, the crown holder, and the legendary Chris Rock. Yeah, I definitely want to talk about that, but I want to jump back to, because you were at a listening party with Yeh. Right, in China.

Right. In China. Man, I got to know the experience, man. It's been, you know, with all the people with the ditty parties and the, you know, just being around some of these high profile celebrities. Right. Can we please clear the air? Like, how was it to be at a listening party with Yay?

Well, for me, Well, my takeaway was that I actually had official fried rice. Yeah. I have been eating fried rice all my life, but never had it in China. You know what I mean? So I had some official fried rice. Yeah. And I ain't going to lie.

I wanted to smuggle some of that shit back to America. I mean, you know. Got better taste. Just better than here? It just felt more authentic. Yeah. Probably just the atmosphere. It was the atmosphere.

Yeah, it probably what made it taste better. Maybe it's the atmosphere. You got that shit around the corner out here. You'd be like, this shit tastes like some bullshit. Right. And the fact that it looked like at least 10 people could actually make this shit from scratch. Yeah. Yeah.

But, yeah, nah. But, yeah, I had some great, um, has some great Chinese cuisine out there. it was good to catch up with my bro you know what I'm saying I've been working on my album for since Donda so we may have caught up like once or twice in the midst of that

but yeah it was just great to catch up with the bros you know what I'm saying and you know everything was everything you know what I'm saying I mean you know he had his kids with him so we wasn't really in that you know that adult space you know so it's just more like family vibe

and some of the, you know, the first-tier group of the crew was out there, so it was good. Shout out to Monopha, I.B., and the Sakaya. It was good. You feel like they show love more in, like, places like China than they do, like, United States when you travel it overseas? I mean, well, I think specifically for this event, because the whole island came to the shit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I think they were... Island came to it. So a Ha-Koo is like an all-skirt of China

and shit. And so there was, then they want to say, they said there was 7.2 million in ticket sales and about like over 50 million in revenue for the, for Haiku. You know what I'm saying?

So I think all of them came out for their experience, you know what I'm saying? You know, for many of them, that's going to be a life, once in a lifetime experience. experience a, you know, like a yay event or whatever the case is. So, you know, he runs through 90 records because that's where his catalog is at at this

point. And it was great. It was great. It was great. It was also great just to see, you know, I'm still a student in the game. So just to see, like, what people outside of America are acquainted with and what they know the words to, because obviously there's a language barrier between, you know, the Mandarin and English and whatever, you know what I'm saying?

And so the fact that some of the bigger records is, you know, melody-based, you know, just gives you an incarnation of what's, maybe what should come music-wise, you know what I mean? So great experience, great experience. No, it's definitely fascinating to hear, you know, different artists aside, like when they actually go do some traveling because, you know, a lot of people, they don't travel. Like a lot of artists don't get that chance. They don't get that exposure, that chance to pop to go over to somewhere like that. Right, right.

So I think, you know, just to hear somebody's experience of having to go over there and just seeing how, you know, they love this shit. They love a lot of other people get rich. Right. Going overseas, they don't even care about getting any money here. Were, I mean, you know, I mean, ultimately as an artist, you know, one of the goals should definitely be just to have worldwide exposure and a worldwide audience, you know what I'm saying? I mean, you make, I write a rap for everybody to hear it, not for just my niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like that's...

Obviously, it starts with just my niggas, but you wanted to be that... As good enough to wear someone in haiku would be like, oh yeah, that's the hundred shit. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, you know,

it was going down. It was there. It was like, I actually seen a Chinese woman with a freaking dress on. I was like, I didn't even know they did that shit over there. You know what I mean? So, you know, like,

it's a little bit of weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. We live in one world at this point, you know. So it ain't like you doing something that somebody else can't get went to and vice versa. You know what I mean? Word. Shit is real.

So it was good to see you when you was out there. You made sure you linked up with him, Todd Dollar Sign, listening party. Everything was cool in that mix. What else was going on out there for you? When he was out there, other than eating some rice. Just on business. Right now, it's all plays. You know what I'm saying?

it's all plays. Like I said, I got the new album coming out, and I got my son, me and my son are doing a collab album called On the 192 that's coming this year as well, and my son came in the crownholder would be dropping next year, so it's all plays for me right now.

Yeah, tell me a little bit about 192. So 192 records is named after the block in Queens where I came up, the 192 in London, which is people made. know that for it being in the check the wrong video about trial code quest they're standing on top of the cleaners that's one on two and so that was our

our broadway or our one two five or you know what I'm saying like our sunset boulevard you know that that's that's what we we we posted up and you know like I center stage yeah that's center stage great way to put it so that was our center stage and you know even me being in tribe being on one hour two one night, I wound up having a friendly battle cipher with Run from RunDNC and, you know, where we got back to the Q-Tib

that I got busy and, you know, eventually that led to me eventually joining Tribe for Beach Rons of Life. Because I was going to ask you, like how'd you even get caught up with them in just the relationship that you got with Q? Right. Well, you know, once again, you know, so that's my family and, you know,

my grandpa's actually with the trail, Blazer. My grandpops is a gentleman by the name of Slim Turner. He was one of the kings in the street of Harlem. He ran numbers and showed a lot of love. So, you know, ironically, you know, there's a lot of, like, the Harlem World guys, you know, Cardan in particular, like grew up, you know, like, you know, like, so I met him in the industry. But because I lived in Queens, they didn't, they didn't correlate it. So they met me as consequence and not Slim, Green. grandson type shit, you know what I'm saying? But, you know...

So like that panned out for you better or for worse? Um... You know, inheritance is a thing, right? It's a motherfucker, right? You know what I'm saying? So inheritance is the thing, so for them, when I tell them that, they're like, oh, why are you... That's like Prince Archiem level in Harlem, right? You know what I'm saying?

For me, that's my grandpops. That's grandfather, though. You know what I'm saying? So, I think for me... For me, it was a, it was a double-edged sword because I, he taught, this is how I wound up even being here after debuting almost 25 something years ago, you know what I'm saying? Because he, yo, we don't come home in the hand it. We men, we don't come home without, without that bag. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? And so, you know, but maybe if I would have been moving like, oh, I'm Slim's grandson, bow, it might have been like, you don't get that same dog. You know what I'm saying? You don't have that same dog in you. You know what I'm saying? Because there's a slight sense of entitlement, right? It's already been laid.

I don't have to be a dog. I ain't move on that. He just showed me how to be a dog. And then when I get in the street, niggas are like, oh, oh, we're supposed to bow to that. Now, you ain't got to bow. I'm a dog, nigga. What's up?

You don't live in nobody's shout up. Right, right, right, right. A lot of people Right. But it's cool that that's mine, though. Yeah, it's cool. But you don't use it as a crush. I don't use, nah, nah.

That's not your crutch through life. Nah. Or in that area. None of the plug's been a crush for me. They've been a plug. I put them in a wall and get charged up and get going. You know what I'm mean? That's what we at with this shit.

Yeah. No, that's live, bro. I don't know a lot to you. You would, tell me about doing 80% of your production for your joint, because it seemed like you did a lot of it yourself. Well, once again, that's like I said, I never used the plug as a crutch, so I never sat around,

I never sat around hustlers and then learned how to back up. And I never sat around, why would I sit around Kanye and Q-Tip and Jay Diller and not learn how to cook up? You know what I'm saying? Not know what it takes to make chicken fried rice. Right.

So, you know what I mean? that's what, so now I'm at the point where I got the chef kiss. Yeah, because doing 80% of the production for your album is, that's a lot of work, man. That means you left like 20% just to like put down some streams. The 20% is Kanye did bloodstain. Tim Milan's producers did the record with W. Melly overdose that's out now. And I collabed with Fireman and Keizzo Kane did one during, and the rest is me. and my team.

I definitely shout out to everybody who worked on the project with me. Tom McLean. Tom McLean, Arden, Arden Artino and Rich Keller on the mix and Zach on the bass

and Jaylan Black on the street. Like we, you know, I had to put our ensemble together, but, you know, it was well worth it. I got to know. consul quizzes because I'm curious because not a lot of people can land

this type of feature. You know, you got to tell me about the Chris Rock feature, man, and how you even got a hold of that. Wow. I mean, is there going to be a recurring theme? I don't sit on the plugs. No. No, granted, I get that.

But, you know, he doesn't really hold as a plug to anyone. I feel like him, Chris Tucker, just anybody, or you know what I'm saying? Like, just anybody that's in that format. Like, they don't really fuck with everybody. You know, so it must have been something about you for him to say, hey, I mean, come on, man, this Chris Rock at the end of the day. 100%.

Like, he's not a rapper or artist other than, you know what I'm saying? I mean, he can be an artist. And he don't, and he, and he, and he, and he, in another tax bracket. That was, that's when you're trying to get that. That's right. Right. Right. So he's in a whole other tax bracket.

So you just have him on their notch a lot. Like, once again, you know what I'm saying? you only as good as your last game. That's why I just, with these things, for me, it's the game I play. You know what I'm saying? That ain't plugged. That was a battery.

Like a big old battery. That wasn't even a plug, bro. Nah, that's a jet engine. Yeah, that wasn't. You know what I'm saying? So speaking of jets, so let me, so since you asked, look, so how, when I first met him was maybe in the tens, like, you know, like maybe like, oh,

So I had, unbeknownst to me, I was his favorite, I had his favorite verse on the Kanye album, which is the verse I had on Gone on Late Registration. So when we met in passing, you know, seeing him, like, yo, I'm a fan, appreciate your work, daft him up. He's like, oh, work, I appreciate, you know, that what's your name?

I said, consequence. You mean the consequence? Like, yeah. Yo, you got my favorite verse on any Kanye record ever. And he didn't really put together that I was part of tribe at the time. You know what I'm saying? So we kicked it on that note. So then, you know, things come around 2016.

We do the last tribe album, which, you know, rest of a piece of fife. We wind up doing Saturday Night Live and did a tribute to Fife on there. Chris was there. So, you know, that's further continued to build. It's sparking. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? It's sparking.

So then we get to 2018, and when Kanye's working on the Wyoming projects, which is, you know, Pitch of Tea, Tiana Teller, Nause, and Kissie goes to his album. Kanye has a big listening party, he has mass celebs flying, and Chris flew in,

and, you know, he said, yo, whenever consequences around, I know great music is coming. You know what I'm saying? So he pulled me to the side and was like, yo, what you got popping out after this?

I'm like, shit, just going back to New York? He's like, yo, I got a PJ. You want to take a flight? That's Chris Rock. That's Chris Rock. Yeah, you want to take a flight? How did that make you feel like, damn?

It may you feel like I need to pack. And I mean And ASAP Right And we're back Get my shit together Because I'm gonna head back That way

And so On the flight back We're chopping it He's like y'all I'm working on A vinyl version Of my Netflix special Called tambourine

And I would like you To rap on it Word Okay Man no problem We go to studio Knock out two records In an hour

I mean You know Because I'm like You already excited for it You already Yeah I'm like Yeah, I'm like, oh, this is, this what the fuck I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah, make you want to get in your bag. Now, mind you, I'm just on the strength doing it because I'm just like, yo, it's just, I just, I feel honored to be, to have him speak of me. Once again, like I said, he said it out a lot in front of everybody. Consequences around, no. And he didn't have to do that. 100, yeah.

That's where our minds are like that. You ain't have to do that, right, right, right, right, right. So he's speaking his mind, which that's what it is. So I do the joints I just had a chance I had a chance of work with Chris Rock Now when I get the call Yo

So let me ask you He calls me Day later He's excited about the shit Yo so I want to make sure you straight on this What can we do? Yeah

I'm whatever you good When I tell you This is the easiest And best bag I got Because I took me an hour To do two songs two songs

why I got I was like oh my nigga you're living proof of why artists shouldn't be afraid to step out the box and collab with people like that

and like talk to them because you just never know who's a fan of you and like how you do you was like man I got Chris Rock in my face telling me how he's listed to every joint I've done with Ye and said I was the best on every single one

he ended up flying you on a private jet having you come knock out two songs that gave you one of the biggest paydays that'll stand in your top 10. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's... And then I got the feature for my album. That's the story. What a remarkable one. Like, it's just like, because it just shows people, like, and this is why I want people to hear that,

because it just shows people, this is all it takes. Sometimes, like, it's just getting out and bumping shoulders. Right. People are so afraid, consequence to be... Like, sometimes you've got to go places. other people are willing to go. Right. Sometimes you got to go by yourself, right?

Like people always think they got to move with an army or move with a team. Nah, niggas, sometimes you got to get up, motivate yourself, get dressed, get outside, get to that building that you probably should have been in. Even if you do got a, you know, fanat with your way in or talk to talk a little something at the dough, you know, something to get in.

Hey, listen, a little finesse ain't ever heard nobody. It ain't ever heard nobody. You know, so I just feel like that's a, people need to hear that. Like, and how you say, he was like, man, shit, you didn't know. may have been listening to you forever. That was probably the last person you ever would have thought, walked up, and spoke on you in front of everybody.

And sometimes we sleep on ourselves and we don't realize, you know, impact. And we don't realize, you know, when people digest from us, you know what I'm saying. And so, you know, it's a testament of just the regimen, you know what I'm saying? Just getting up, getting up, getting to it, getting to it, getting to it, get to it, get to it, get up, nigga. You know what I'm saying? and no matter what obstacle, get up, get to it. You know what I'm saying? Like, we as a culture and a people,

can't forget about the fact that at one point, we'd have did anything to get up and get to it. You know what I'm saying? We didn't do anything to be able to shop on Rodale. Our parents would have did anything to be able to retire and move to the South, you know what I'm saying, and just be chilling.

So a lot of times when we see these avoidable disasters, we got to bear these things in mind too. Like, yo, what is the significance behind what I'm doing? You know what I'm saying? What is the purpose for what I'm doing this shit for? You know what I'm saying? Life ain't worth shit without goals and reaching them. People have goals and don't get them.

You know what I'm saying? Don't mean. Or forgetting about your goals that you set in the first place. Like why do all that? shit and then when you get to that spot, abandon what got you there in the first place. Well, I've said it before. That means that I've seen somebody with something I want and I'm trying to reach their goal now instead of trying to stay on track for myself.

That's what you call one-up shit. Yeah. And that's fuck shit. Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about, though. It's true. 100%. 100%. You know, it's alive and well.

Right, right. Now, fuck shit is alive and well. I think that's what fucks people up. Like, and you see my. like a conscious brother, like, where you don't really get knocked off the pivot too easy. You know how to stay focused. You know, as an artist. And it's a, it's not, it's something that you have to be conscious of.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, shit is outside. You know what I'm saying? It's easy. You know what I'm saying? But when you live in your purpose, it makes navigating shit that much easier. As an artist for you.

how do you stay focused and, you know, stay on your game like you do other than, you know, just having some goals. Like, is there it? Because I feel like everybody that knows how to make it has a program, right? And it's a certain way that they program. Right. Just saying getting to it, working, yeah, that's cool, but there's probably some things that you do for yourself,

even if it's taking a motherfucker-hike, I don't get a fuck like going to the top of the mountain coming back down and being cool. Yeah, I mean, I definitely, for me, you know, being diagnosed with lupus and diabetes changed my life. I'm blessed. I'm now at the point with my A1C is at four and sometimes. It's five. Depending on what I eat.

So when I was diagnosed it was like over 14 and shit. And so for me the number one thing is self-awareness and discipline. Like, you know, knowing I went through that, I would be a fool to be sitting here eating a Snickers at three in the morning. You feel me? Like, that don't make no sense. You went through all that shit. Then you fried.

Because that shit hurts. Your body. Right, right, right. You knew you knew. You was like, I don't think I want to feel that shit again. No, right. Right. Right, right.

You even pick it up a hole in and be like, no. Right. I'm not going to literally sit here and cut my own fingers on bar wire. You got a sweet tooth church. You're like, you like, you're like, like just desserts and things like that? Periodically. Not nothing crazy.

Like, what, what my problem was, was I was a breadhead, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't know, I was never taught what glucose,

how glucose bust down, you know what I'm saying? And so I had to learn that shit the hard way, you feel me? And so, yeah, it wasn't even like I was sitting here ten cupcakes up

because I wouldn't even, you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to even fucking, nah, that wasn't it. You know what I'm saying? But I'm,

but what I make, what I make pancakes? 100%. When I make, uh, uh, sausage, egg and cheese on a bagel,

100% with wild butter, right? People got to watch that shit, church, like, because I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, even for the youngsters,

they'd be like 22, 23, 24, like, near your time coming. Once you hit 30, your body change. Right, right, right. Like whether you want it to or not,

like, you have to start doing something for you. Right. Something. Yeah, I literally got my son. It's just fucked up. I'm introducing my son to salads and cucumbers. You got to know.

You want to stay healthy? Yeah. You want that six-pack you got? Because, bro, because shake shack. Yeah. Shake and Kadova? Yeah. You're going to have something hanging over your belt line.

Not even that, man. You just ain't going to live long, bro. Right, right. And I know to a lot of people that probably sound funny now I'm like, oh, you're young, but that shit catch up, boy, till you quick. Yeah. How your ass having a heart attack eating bad at 34. Word.

You know what I'm saying? I lost one of my partners to that vibe and shit. Word, word, word, shit is real. It's real. It's real. It's a piece. Man, tell me a little bit about the Tribe piece. You know what I'm saying?

The Tribe piece collab from Icebox, y'all did. So we got actually drop, we got that dropping right before the album, and, you know, it's in celebration of Tribe's induction into the rhyme. Hall of Fame and you know I collaborated with Z and the staff of Ice Box and you know Tribe never had a like a Rockefeller chain or you know like a Rough Rother piece or whatever so I thought you know let me let me let me let me cook this shit up and um yeah the shit you know it's gonna be a limited quantity definitely looking to get the group all the joints and you know we outside we made it to the rock hole like my first album is in the fucking rock and roll hole

of fame. That's crazy. Like, yeah, that's... You know what I'm saying? See, that was the first off, you get real, like, that was your excitement, but it still kept calm.

You really try not to... You try to analyze it, bro. Yeah, yeah, no, I got, you know, I got to keep my hustler hat on, but... Yeah. That shit is like...

To be able to... To be able to still... I could still rap, and that's happening. You feel me? Like, a lot of times, you know, you know let's just be real like you know that's that's what they give you on the way out

job well done type shit speaking of way out right because even you said that you know you're still rapping do you do you feel like it's like football basketball almost like a sport to where you know you're good at it for so long and then kind of you might it might find that turning point to where you ask yourself in the in the studio damn do I still got it I think that's a matter of like lifestyle, right?

Lifestyle changes, though, church. And you know that. 100%. 100%. What you was doing in your 20s, you wasn't doing in your 30s. And if you was, it was fucking you up. And it was just, it catches up with you.

That's the 30s. When you get to your 40s, regardless of what you want to do and what your mind tell you, if you live in, like, what you can't do is to live two lives, right? So, like, to be a rapper is the same commitment as being an NBA player, right? So, like, you can't get to 40 plus or even late 30s, right?

And expect to have premium concentration level, because that's what it takes to rap once you get older. It's like I compared them, though, because I feel like there's greats on both sides. So it's like, does it find its retirement point? Well, that's the thing. When you want to, that's why they have the term settling down, right? Because you start winding down from the climax of the output that you had in life, right? So then you start getting to a point where, I've been, I gave X amount of years to this cause. Then you, you know, you got a relationship.

let's say you're in a relationship and you got kids your kids don't have a fully committed you because it takes the commitment of concentration to be an artist like it doesn't

that's why when you start hearing niggas then bars ain't like that because it ain't the same level of concentration dedicated to that shit like your bitch is pulling out you your kids is pulling at you your niggas is either unhappy because everybody wanted to be a star

and it only happened for a couple of niggers, right? So it's all these things plung at you and that's the kind of shit that makes you be like, yo, I kind of want to just be, I kind of just want to be a little less responsible. I want to just be able to chill with my brother and not wake up the next day and damn I got to write it first.

You know what I'm saying? And niggas get like that. It's a, that even in the NBA, like I said, their commitment to keep a jump shot, then you can't be having like the side bitches and shit like that. That shit is, nigga, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, you, you, you, you know what I mean? Right, right. It's just, it's just what it is, especially.

Now, that's just if you're just doing that. Now, if you like to drink, smoke, or do some hard shit. Oh, nigga, this shit ain't for you no more. You want to live that life. Yeah. And I think what happens with a lot of gods is that, you warn me about that. I think what happens with a lot of gods

is that they don't understand the, this is for this and this is for that. They try to still say I could do both. I could, let's say, a hardcore motherfucker. I could fuck with the lean and play football. No, you can't.

I can't. and still shoot a jump shot. No, you can't. Well, there's a couple that are contested that to you. By and large. There's a fucking couple probably. And they come from the like 90s. It ain't nobody new.

There's anomalies in every example of everything. It wouldn't be anybody new, so I wouldn't even hold you to that. It would have to bend somebody from, I'm talking about like 88, 89. Right, right. Well, this nigga's rare, this nigga's rare, nigger. This niggas red. This nigga did it. This nigga did it.

This nigga was doing that shit and doing that shit a hundred miles of hours. Yes, yeah. Even the most excelled, average excelled, nigger, nah, they crash out, bro. You feel me? They crash out. You know what I'm saying? And so at the end of the day, like I said, it's just self-awareness. You got to know who you is.

You know what I'm saying? In some shit, if you can't manage some shit, you got to make decisions. I want to say this is where it's going to say. I want to say this is where it's going to sound kind of fucked up because I have to agree with you when you say like, you know, you got a wife, you got kids, you know, let's say you're an artist. You are artists and you got wife, you got kids,

you got all this, and then you start to look at it. You're like, what you're about to rap about? Because rappers rap about what they live, what are you going to talk about your kids and your wife, the home of a fucking way? Right. I'm not saying that a song couldn't get off if you had some popularity.

Nah, but that's when niggas start hearing you with this. Yeah, like, how far do you? I'm good, OG. You know what I'm saying? I'm good, OG. Yeah. Like, as sad as it's as f*** as that may sound, because it's like, damn, that might be a man's family or a man's life.

But it's like... It don't, it don't. That the game. It's the game, my nigga. The game... Yeah. The game ain't on that. The game won what the game on.

Oh, what's up? Yeah. Like, it's... You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's all good, my nigga, but the game is moving. You're a real nigga, though, bro. Because you can have to be able to say, no, that shit ain't acceptable.

Right. Like he's like, I say, I even give it his credit and say you can at least get one song off you, ask a popularity and talk about, you know, but even then, it's like, you take it again, you're taking a chance. You could give a nigga a message, that's cool. And what I get, nigger spit it back at you, got to accept it because the game is the game.

Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm saying. Like, the game, because you got on, that don't change it for the rest of the game. The game is still about what it's about. It's about niggas getting in. being hungry enough to get to it

and getting on their dog shit. Like, nigga, when you got a leash on, you should stay in the crib. I'm telling you, I know it's got to be hard for niggas that got that to try to actually put out music. It's got to be. Right. Like, I'm talking about and really want to stand behind it, know that you're telling

the truth, nigga. If you sit in there, if you're telling somebody else's story, all right, but just... Right. You can't... You know what I'm saying? All right, my nigga, right. That shit blows. Somebody going to pick that shit apart. And it always happens like that.

Like that nigga wasn't even on that, that nigga had a wife and kids and lived above ear, bro. Right, right, right, right. Come on. But, I mean, you both know that story, it don't sell. That's why you was like, the streets going to want what the streets want. So that's why I always say, I think it's hard for a lot of rappers to even convert to something like that, to having a life because they're so caught in a lifestyle.

It's like, I know if I'm. do do something like that. It's like if a nigger lead a league, will they still love me the same? And it's like... And the streets could tell when you resource raping. You know what I'm saying?

Like when you just come in and get that and you... Resource raping. Ooh, that's a cold one. R&R. R&R. They know when you came for R&R. That's a cold one.

And they ain't got nothing to do relaxing. No, at all. No, not at all. It's when niggas know you only around because you're trying to spark. you're trying to relight the pilot.

You know what I'm saying? But other than that, you ain't really fucking with it. It's transparent that you ain't fucking with it like that, too. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I said it's a choice because of the commitment, you got to have a commitment to the streets as well. Like, niggas, niggas want that feeling when they get around you. You know what I'm saying?

And so, like I said, man, it's just a matter of self-awareness, man. Yeah, man. Tell me about that, what's that nepotism I want to say? Yeah, yeah. Nepotism in the black community versus other cultures. Well, how do you feel about that? You know, definitely with the hood in particular, you know, due to our experience in America, we haven't been, just like I spoke about my grandpops earlier, you know what I'm saying?

And us having to kind of decipher what's acceptable. nepotism. When you dealing with any other culture, everybody else is allotted the grace to give to their family. Like, I'm not going to sit here and start a business and don't

give my son the tools for success. I'm not going to, you know what I'm saying? We've been getting whipped out for so long. We've been getting whipped out for so fucking long. We've been getting whipped out for so long that we think a beating is part of it. You ain't telling no fucking love. You know what I mean?

That's the part. Like, that's where it comes to. Nepotism is supposed to put the belt away. We keep getting beat, bro. Like, whelp after welp after. Nepotism will be not doing that album or that collab with your son. Oh, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no.

We're going to stop the ass whoopings. You know what I mean? Like, straight up. Like, you're like, I'm trying. We're going to stop that shit. Because they would say, oh, are you doing it? Because you, when that's what you should be doing. Listen, you should go read a fourth.

they law the power. You should, before you read that, you should- Knicks don't read, bro. Listen, I,

whether you do or you don't, books are there, let me give everybody, let me look at this camera on no jumper. Let me give everybody watching this a jewel.

Books contain information. Without information, you don't got no finesse. Let me talk to the streets for a second. Without no finesse, you're not running no plays. Without no plays, you're not getting out the peas, bro. You, your mama, your auntie with the big tities, none of y'all are leaving.

All right? Get a book. It don't got to be. It don't got to be. Listen, my favorite book is the can, and I'm going to tell you why. Because at the end of day, it's information. It's information. You need to know why Jesus did this and why Moses did that.

All right? I'm telling you some straight real game. For anybody who think they got G, you know, invented G, G-O-D. That's who is the author and architect of all. So at the end of the day, what I'm saying to y'all is like, yo, you need information. Anybody you seen get rich Donald Trump, no taxes, because he got the information.

That's why y'all always was better with Trump, because he had the information. Why? Even with Biden, he don't, make. or may not have business information. You, yo, we got to get out of that shit. That's why we keep getting rocked and beat.

Yeah. You feel me? Because we feel like when we read a book, we're getting beat over the head. I'd rather get beat over the head than get beat on the back. No, they feel like they get capped on for me.

It's not cool to be the smart nigga no more. Listen, it's not cool to be broke. All right, niggas. Don't say, ain't nobody tell you. Straight up He said, bro, fuck all that. It ain't cool to be broke And it's not

But you know and I know It's like not cool to be You see him roast niggas online For being healthy Roast niggas online For doing anything That could be positive Listen

Take care of your family All right Do that part You worry about another nigger Listen Do that part Anything's gonna come When you do that part

you're gonna get the bitch you want the whip you want the crib you want the kid you want all that shit it's all one row no butter all right 192 records i don't believe it i'm calling some cap hundred ninety two records what would you call on gab on 192 records why you call on cap well is just the poke at you oh oh i mean it's the most it's the most that's the most that's crazy though because that's cold that's cold listen at the end of the day that's cold it's about what it's about it's about legacy it's about it's about leaving a legend you feel me if you ain't trying to do that I don't know what we're doing beloved you're right because even with these interviews I leave them shit I'm probably like 140 right I'm saying so I'm like

it's all about leaving something behind whether they don't watch it now But they might double back and it's always about leaving some useful information. And from the artists and from other people, it's spreading this information, man. It's very important. Right, right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? 192 records. What does the future even hold for you after that?

Intellectual property at an all-time apex value. That's what we're doing. You know, I built a publishing catalog that has sustained me. And once I put out Knights doing business with you, it's all business, no play. I got to know because I was going to ask you that earlier. But, you know, I got to know, like, what was the meaning behind Nice doing business with you? Why did you pick that? Because I feel like, like, I have one of the covers that I have, it's not the main cover.

One of the covers I have is a handshake agreement between a black hand and a white hand. and the reason why I picked that as an alternative company we're going to have merch with that because in a handshake agreement when someone tells you now you doing business with you it got to that point because when they first began to do a deal one person had one idea to deal and another person had another idea to deal

and why they were shaking hands right so I agree to what I agree to and I don't know what the really agree to until we get some money, then, yo, I ain't agree to that. There'd be a lot more out on agrees than there was. Hey, shit, we were on the right page. Right.

So once again, the best way to leave on business is nice doing business with you. You know what I'm saying? And the best way to get to the future is, hey, it was nice doing business with you, but I got to skate. You know what I mean? So like I said, we about these plays. I ain't just talking. What do you see for 192 for the future for that?

Like, where are you trying to see it the next 10 years? Multiple revenue streams. Merch. My son being a superstar. Model. Me signing more artists, producing outside projects. You know, obviously. Well, you've been searching for, like, artists.

If you were to go scouting tomorrow, where would you pack a bag, like you say, and where are you going? Instagram. Coldest answer yet. He said, what you mean? I'm going to wake up in the morning. I'm going to pull my coffee. I'm gonna turn his phone on. Turn his phone on and get to that bag.

It's gonna come right to my DM. He said, man, I'm not going and straight. Man, I'm getting right on Instagram. Right. I do this shit from the company of my own home. Yeah. What do you feel about that being, you know, a part of the music game for so long

and seeing where it's transitioned to streaming and social media? Change is inevitable. Right. Just like we went from heroin to crack, didn't we? Yeah. Same shit. You don't feel?

like it people have an access to that watered it down just a little bit the same way we went from heroin anyway we went from heroin to crack any product is subject any product that acquires popularity is subject to being or tainted or tainted or tainted why I say tainted is because a shabed or whatever because think about the music that you were hearing from the 80s to the 90s to the early 2000s and then to where it's at now right but but Digital marketing has taken over the game. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Due to consumption. It's allowed everybody in the door. Right, right, right. To where the music necessarily might not even be as good anymore, but because the resources are there. Consumption. It can get its due.

Right, right, right. And that's capitalism. Like I said, read a book. I'm sure you knew what it was like. Or get some information, do what you got to do. I'm sure you knew what it was like to actually putting up. taking a pen and putting into a pad. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Right, right. 100%. But eventually, eventually, because of capitalism, I had to lead that process that shit started taking too long. Like, yo, say what you got to say so we can get to this bag. I didn't write the Grammy family verse. I said that shit out my brain.

But not everybody is that talented. So when you see a lot of people try to. Yeah, you got bad hustlers and everything. You're a bad hustler. True. You're just a bad hustler, though. Honestly, too, though. Because once again, if this is your way to eat,

you're going to figure this shit out like, listen, even 50 saying he said it itself like, yo, maybe I wasn't, man, when 50 needed to eat after he got shot, them mixtapes, that nigger was making masterpieces. But let's be real. The nigger could rap. He said to himself, maybe I, man, I wasn't. and himself, and look, a lot of people could be 50 haters.

At the end of the day, 50 brought bangers, and 50 could rap. He could, but I think it's the drive is more, what he was trying to say was like, yeah, I was good, but the drive I had. He matched his, he brought his drive up. He caught up. Right, right, right. But that drive is a component that we can't leave out of the equation. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Because you could be the most talented motherfucker with no drive. You ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere. You ain't going nowhere because you ain't about it. This is true. This is true. But I just look at it, you know, when they come to people like 50 and how he even moved, like, the nigga can rap, though.

And I don't want people to get that mis of screw because there's people that come in that, like, you really don't have the talent. You could still be in the arena. You can still find a way to be a part of music. You don't got to be the rapper, though. And you can't rap or you can't sing or you can't hold. Hey, don't come in. I just don't like slug. rap man I like the shit bro.

Right, right, right. Right, right. That shit is sloppy and it's, like you said, there's no, you say putting a pen to a pad, it takes too much time. Well, look what they're doing, bro. That shit's sloppy, it's rushed. Right, right, right, right, right. Not real shit.

They're even rapping faster than over the beat, because they're just trying to rush it. Right. Let's get it done and on to the next. Yeah, niggas gotta, you know, this shit is, it's, it's, just like when you, with the interviews, like, you, this is what you on. is what you on.

You know what I'm saying? And since you on this, it's like, ain't no, it's this, all the other shit out the window. Or I got a shake

because I got to go to this LL shit. No, you're good, you're good. I'm about to close us out right now. I got it. You said you're about to go to the LL shit.

Yeah. Oh, that's about to be locked. You got an honorary dinner tonight and shit. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man,

I might have to get on your line, man, Hey, I appreciate you for sliding through coming and sitting down with me. I didn't even know this shit was going to be this live. I can't wait that this shit come out, man. I'm excited for people to see us chop it. And once again, nice doing business with you.

It's available on all DSPs. September's 27th via one-nine two records. Let's get it. Let's get it. Let's go. I'm sliding with you. We're going to get some suits, man. Yeah, yeah.

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