No Jumper - Corn on Becoming Twitter Famous, Kai Cenat Roasting Him, Influencer Boxing & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

Corn talks about building his career on Twitter, going viral, Kai Cenat, celebrity boxing match, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https:...//shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Took down my dick award because somebody was telling it to the other day, but now it's... I'm going to just put it back right here. That's crazy, bro. The Jason Lee show? Yeah, you know him? Unfortunately. Are we filming? What is unfortunate about Jason Lee?
Starting point is 00:00:29 No, Jason Lee cool. I'm just saying, unfortunately, just because it happened this year. What happened this year? I mean... Am I thinking otherwise? You're thinking Jason Love. Oh, yeah, yeah. Not even hard.
Starting point is 00:00:42 That's crazy. Jason Lee is the homosexual host of Hollywood Unlocked. So, like, tell me, how'd you win this award, bro? Like, what happened, bro? I mean, I've kind of wondered that myself. What have I done to deserve the Hall of Fame Mandingo Award? I've never really thought about myself in that context, but, you know, Jason Lee gave it to me. It's like, I guess he felt like my deserve some kind of award.
Starting point is 00:01:08 but that's neither here nor there, corn. What's going on? Hey, man. A lot's going on. Yeah? Yeah. Hit me with the current events. I mean, current events, like,
Starting point is 00:01:19 trying to get back into streaming. I say trying, because it's like, I don't really like just sitting down. Like, I'm the type of, like, I just like to move. Like, it just helps me think. So, like, with streaming, you know, like, you've been seeing the shit that's going on with, like, IRL streamers and all that.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's taken over. Yeah, like. To old art form. I've been watching Ice Poseidon and all these other people do it for years and years, but now it's like having this moment where even people like Steve will do it who never did that before are getting on board. And then you got a neon going viral every night. Aidan Raw is doing it. Exactly. Like you got to think about it. People that watch this is like they're living through these people. Like they can't do it. So it's like they got to, it's like there's always been vlogs and shit. But it's different when it's live. You know what I'm saying? Anything that happened. But yeah, like that's what I'm going to start doing starting next year like January type. Right now, I'm just easing into it. Like I just moved, bro. I literally just moved on my mama crib, like October. Okay. And so you're from where?
Starting point is 00:02:13 So I'm from D.C., man. I'm from the DMV. And I just moved to Atlanta. Okay. It's been chill as full. Like, it's just nice. What made you decide to make the move? Hey, bro, I had three choices.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Atlanta, Miami, and L.A. And it's just like, money-wise, definitely Atlanta's better than those two. And it's also like, Miami's just way too crazy. It's just, I need to like just have more discipline before I'm living in Miami. I'm going to be way too distracted. So it's like. The plan is I'm going to have, I'm going to live in all three cities. I'm going to have cribs in all of them, but I'm starting off in that Atlanta first.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Okay, so yeah, Atlanta is a business decision. Kind of more, you know, low-key, but definitely a creative space, but also, like, close to home for you. Exactly. It's like, it was just a business decision, honestly. Right. So it's like, I'm really just using that as, like, training grounds in a way. Okay. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So you don't think that D.C. is it when it comes to you doing what you need to do? Well, Ryan, I don't know if you've been hearing anything. anything about DC, but it's crazy, bro. You have 12-year-olds just running around with guns, like, they're crazy. Yeah, like, I literally just saw someone say today, like, you, if you have a nice car or clothes, like, you literally can't walk around DC without feeling like you might end up 12-year-old today, because it's just crazy, bro. Wow. Like, it's actually crazy. And honestly, I never really had no problems when I was in DC, so it's like, I only see the news. Like, I had no problems personally, but literally, though, like, two days before I moved out,
Starting point is 00:03:34 me and my boys was out and like bro the whole like you know street parking the whole street every window got broken into but it's just crazy yeah no it is wild like and it's getting dangerous
Starting point is 00:03:47 I feel you because like I always looked at San Francisco as a pretty nice place and I was watching a documentary about it on Channel 5 the other day and holy is a war zone now and they kind of like made the point
Starting point is 00:03:58 like there's this random dude on the show was like a fentanyl addict and he catches like an assault case yeah Oh, yeah, it doesn't. Nothing. Like, just smoking fentanyl all the time. And he caught a charge that in San Francisco, they didn't even bother to prosecute him. And they said that if he got caught up for the same thing in a state that is more strict, like North Dakota or something,
Starting point is 00:04:17 he would have got like 20 years. Damn. What the what the what's going on in San Francisco? They just, they passed a law where, like, you basically, it used to be that you would catch a felony if you stole anything over $400, I think. And now it's like $1,000. And they just, basically, they're just not prosecuting anything. They got, like, open-air drug market. It's just got lazy as hell.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, basically. And they decided to go easy on crime, basically, and like, try to keep people out of prison. Kind of reminds me of that. I don't know which city was. This is in Canada. Like, it's like every drug that's legal and it's just crazy out there. Vancouver and shit. All in the Northwest, this is something that they're trying out.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And I don't think it's really going that well. Nah. Right. The video I'm seeing this crazy. Like, like, is that dude? I don't know his name, bro. But I've seen some videos. He's just walking around trying to see if this person's dead or just asleep is just crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Wow, man. At least when I was a kid, we had crackheads. And you got the fentanyl addicts is a totally different level. Okay, but wait, so what kind of upbringing did you have? You grew up in a bad area or did you grow up in a decent area? So, like, when I grew up, because basically my parents, they grew up, like, they were born and Ghana. Like, I'm Ghanaian. I was born here, but they're gone in.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So right, like, right before I was born, they moved. And they were staying with my, like, my cousins, I guess their sisters, brothers and And, like, at first, when we first moved into our first house or whatever, I was only in there for a couple years. I moved out when I was five. But it was, it wasn't bad, but it wasn't like no suburban. The second house we moved to, that was some suburban, bro. And then, like, bro, like, a lot of crazy. Like, my dad got arrested.
Starting point is 00:05:50 We had to move out. So for a little bit, we was down. You got arrested for what? I mean, I ain't going to get into that right now. Like, even my, like, I know it now, but even my mom didn't want to tell me until I was older. So, like, I really don't know how she'd feel if I just aired it out. But like, yeah. Yeah, he was gone for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And then, so after that, like, we wasn't in no big house. We was in the suburbs, bro. And then that got arrested. Like, just went, so we moved to, like, a little condo. It was like me, my brother's sister, my grandma, my mom. And then after the condo, we moved to a little townhouse. And I was, and after, so basically, bro, like, everyone who's watching this that's in the DMV knows. Like, I grew up in PG County and kind of crazy out there.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Like, I always say, like, I moved out of people. County in sixth grade. If I stayed in PG County, I'd be a completely different. You think you would have just got into crime? For sure. Like, bro, even, like, I was only in middle. Like, when I started middle school for eight weeks, I was only there for eight weeks, bro. And I was all right, like, I don't know what was going on. I could feel myself changing, but all the n-hers around, all the people I was talking to was just crazy. And then I moved to Montgomery County as way chillers. It's like, it's the most, I remember I read it a couple years of it's literally the most, one of the
Starting point is 00:06:58 most ethnically, what's the word? Diverse. Yeah, ethnicly. diverse like cities are places in America so it's just everybody you know like before it was just literally just black people you know I'm saying it was in the ghetto but over here it was just I'm saying it's chilling did you do you prefer like being in the suburbs and having a nice clean lifestyle or did you kind of like being in the city and having all those wild shes going around you honestly like my mom was because you know she was new to America so like she was propagated into just like being really safe like she literally thinks every time time I walk out, I'm gonna die.
Starting point is 00:07:33 So, like, I really didn't get to do shit growing up. Like, I, like, I remember, like, my first time going to a birthday party was, like, fourth grade. So she ain't like me, like, she ain't like me, like me being outside, like, like, literally. She was just scared. She thought, like, he's going to join a gang. He's going to get into all this bad. So, like, when we moved to the suburbs, like, I f*** with it because, like,
Starting point is 00:07:52 now she feels like it's okay for me to actually go out. So I like the suburbs and her just because, in a way, it's kind of like freedom, bro. Like, I can literally just be sitting in my seat, scrolling through my phone. Like even if the door opened and not have to worry about, bro. Like the house that we had just moved into before I moved to Atlanta, that was like peak suburbs, bro. Like it's a whole new neighborhood just got built.
Starting point is 00:08:12 So it was like safe as. Right. You know what I like feeling safe? Like, no, yeah. Like when I moved out of my parents' house, I was so hyped to live in the areas of New York. I just thought it was so cool. And when I think about it now, like, I want to live in the nicest area possible.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I want to live in a fagated community. I want my kid to go to the nicest private school possible. I guess part of that is just the fact that like as Americans, we're all just scared of like crime and all this crazy ass homeless people and everything. Like it's literally, I mean, is it getting crazy or it's about the same right now? I haven't checked into it recently.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I mean, I feel like it's gotten crazy. Like I just remember being younger and just the rule of law seemed so much more secure. Like it was just such a big deal to steal something. And now it just feels like that is just nothing in comparison to everything that's going on. Like the cops are going to barely bother to arrest you for shoplifting. and maybe more getting more numb to that it's like you know what I'm saying right definitely so
Starting point is 00:09:06 what kind of kid were you throughout all this were you kind of like a computer kid or like even not like people have always said I was a very quiet kid I was one of those like I was really like because I know some people like they'll be like I was like once I started talking you will listen like for me it was really just I was kind of a class clown but in the sense that I didn't talk much unless I was talking to my friends but every now and I'll just crack a joke just laugh like I I was just quiet as, like just soft-spoken. Like, I've been working on that recently. It's been going well, but, like, teachers picking on me to read or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:39 They'd be like, class, get quiet, you know what I'm saying? You know, he's soft-spoken or whatever. I remember when she said, I was like, wait a minute, really? Like, I was saying, I just had to change, bro. But, yeah, like, I was just a quiet kid. Like, I never really got in trouble, except for dumb. I went to detention suspensions for dumb. Like, but it really just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I really didn't really get into trouble or none. Right. I was really a smart kid too. Like I was in like an engineering club. You know what I'm saying? I want first place in the school. And we did a competition with other schools. I literally want first place in that.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So I really thought I was going to become an engineer when I was growing up. But as I grew up, like my mom was trying to put me in programs. And it's like for me, I like doing shit because I want to do it. Like I feel like I'm in control. Like once I'm doing shit where it feels like damn like if I had to choose I wouldn't do this, like I just can't do it. Because like the stereotype of immigrant parents is that. that they're super strict and they are super serious about education and they want you to just basically get a boring-ass job
Starting point is 00:10:37 with the one that's going to make as much money as possible. Were your parents pushing you in that direction? Yeah, for sure. Even now, like, she still wants me to like, because right now I'm taking a break from school. Like, I was in college, but right now I'm just on a break, which really, I say break, but it's like, I'll probably go, like, personally, I think I'll go back in a couple years.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That could be two years or 10 years. I don't know. It just depends on feeling. But right now, I'm just, on a break. Like, she still wants me to play it safe, basically, because she says it's like a safety net. It's just like the shit I want to do, at least for right now, like, college can teach me. Like, the last things I was doing in college, because at first I was just doing general education while I figured it out or whatever, right? And then I started like, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:11:20 saying? Eventually they push you like, you have to choose something. You have to choose something. So I was like, bro, I just choose communications. Like, when I chose, when I chose communications, I was already like planning my escape to get out of here. Like, my mom was just, strict as hell. It was just annoying me, but... You know an ungetto, Matthew? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I interviewed him the other day, and he actually said something that I haven't really heard other people say too much, which he's basically said that he felt that he f***ed up by staying in high school because he had some...
Starting point is 00:11:45 High school? Yeah, because he had some viral going on, and like his music was starting to get attention and he going viral on YouTube and all that while he was still in high school. And his parents basically, like, convinced him to, you know, stick it out and just stay in high school and he feels like he kind of lost the moment in terms of his music. He actually said, he said, I would be a little oozy right now if it wasn't for the fact that I stayed in school, which normally people don't talk about staying in high school. Like, it's a mistake. But definitely like with you right now and with the college thing, like you probably, you don't
Starting point is 00:12:17 know if you're going to have the opportunities that you have right now for, you know, in two or three years. And it was funny too, because when I chose communications, but we're in class, they're talking about networking and all this other shit. I'm sitting there because this is like 2020. right, like beginning of 2020 is the last semester. We're sitting in class and like they're talking about, oh, name an experience and this and that. And I'll sit in here like writing the shit that I've done.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm like, bro, don't even sound real. Like we're supposed to like get in and talk about it. So I would always like minimize myself in a way so that because I don't know. Like it just sounds like cap when I was writing it down compared to all these other college students. But in terms of college, like I honestly feel like if you know what you want to do, then do it. And also at high school, like even high school, like I was telling my boy like, bro, just if you're, gonna not do anything like at least finish high school like just get the diploma like stick that out but hey like maybe matthew like matthew's my boy by the way we've linked up people say we look a lot like he's
Starting point is 00:13:08 like i kind of crossed my mind yeah like but yeah he chose maybe he like maybe he would have been lousy i don't know but yeah i still feel like high school like you got at least finish that that's what i feel like can do whatever you but i used to always know these pro bmx kids too who would like stay in school and like it's kind of like i would think that maybe they were making a mistake because yes it's dope to finish school, but at the same time, when you're getting all these offers to get all this money and be able to travel the world and do what you love, what you're passionate about. I mean, I'm trying to figure out how the speed finished. Like, was he just doing online or something? Like, bro, it's kind of crazy. Like, he's still flying out and doing all this other while in high school. Like, he just graduated. Right. Maybe he wasn't doing that much. Or maybe he was, maybe he was just secretly, like, real serious about that. I don't know. Yeah, maybe for Angelo, Matthew, he's, he was probably like, when you have to go in to school and, like, all. all those hours that you're stuck in school,
Starting point is 00:14:00 like he probably wasn't doing online or none. So like he probably did. I mean, if you're good at school, if you're good at taking tests and you can imagine like being able to just kind of coast through the school part for me. It's like if I like, I just remember school being hardest for me because I just don't have a good memory.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I don't give a fuck. It's just hard for me to like do anything that I don't want to do. But I've also just known a lot of people in my life who were able to just kind of coast through high school and college and it wasn't that big a deal for them. Yeah. I mean, so for me basically, I never studied.
Starting point is 00:14:28 till high school. Like I literally, I was just going through like elementary school, middle school, just closing through after high school, like during high school, that was one, like I said, my mom put me in this little engineering program. And that's when I started. So at first, ninth grade was normal. 10th grade, normal. But 11th and 12th grade, so 11th grade, I would have the college professors pull up to
Starting point is 00:14:48 the school. And like, we would, because it was a program, right? So we would have our classes at there. And then 12th grade, it was basically dual enrollment. That's what it's called. 12th grade I was just like I didn't I wasn't in high school in 12th grade I was literally in community college as a senior like that was my senior year just going a community college bro and and that must feel cool having all these older girls yeah it was kind of cool but bro like no I don't know bro it was like it was hard to make friends and it's just I don't know it's just weird but like okay when did it become obvious to you that you were smart enough to skip ahead like that what do you mean skip ahead like be able to go to college early and everything like that like like like like Did you just always have a super easy time in school?
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah, so it was super easy, but like I said, I was always easy for me until high school. So after high school, like, I started studying and shit, but it was like, since I'm doing all this college shit and for me, like, bro, I don't know if you're like this too, but like if I don't want to do something, I'm really not going to do it. Like I don't have no motivation. I can't just sit there and like stick it through, bro. Like if I go to prison, bro, I'm escaping. If I don't want to do it, I ain't doing it, bro. Like, that's what I'm, like, I was just trying to get some people to understand that. And it's like, if I want something to do it, I'll have the drive to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I'm going to do it. Like, it's going to happen. Like, you know. Yeah, I mean, everything that I've been so accomplished in my entire life has basically been the product of me just having a really hard time just doing whatever the fuck I'm told. And every time I ever had a job throughout my life, it was just hell. I just hated it. And I would spend the whole time thinking about how I was going to, you know, hustle or
Starting point is 00:16:19 figure out some kind of scam or some shit so that I didn't have to work. Crazy because, because, like, I've only had one job. Like, I was literally, I worked at McDonald's for, three days. And like on that like last day, like I just walked out, you know what I'm saying, said by to my manager. I never went back. Like I'm pretty sure I still, while I still had the universe, I don't know where it's at right now. But I literally just walked out. They never even called me back or nothing, but I just literally never went back in. And right after that, like this was literally like June 2018, right? Right after that, like literally, I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:16:50 next week. The shit that started the catalyst of where I am now was an Instagram. Like I had a meme page or whatever. That next week, like I started going viral. Like I started hitting explore page and it was like some crazy coincidence like quit this job and then the next like cycle of my life started. So right just like that? Were you always just around online doing little creative things? So what does your online career been like? So like bro, since a like since I was a kid, I've always been on the internet. I've always been scrolling through. I've seen a lot of shit. You know how some people say like they're numb like they don't like they don't care about. about seeing going shit, whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I wouldn't say that, because I never went out on my way to go see that, but it's just like, I've just seen a lot of on the internet. Like, I just know the ends and the outs of the internet. And then as time went on, it's like Instagram and all these other apps are progressing. I'm seeing these other people do this and that. I'm like, bro, I could easily do that. I started it. It was trash.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Like, shit was going bad. And I don't know what I'm saying? I screenshot it on my story when I made the meme page. Like, yo, everybody follow me. It was like, four of my friends followed me. I'm like, bet. I'm going to remember this. And, and, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:55 Like it took, this is like 2017. It took like nine months before, like I started picking it up. But it was just like, I don't know. It was basically since I was a kid, I was gathering knowledge without realizing it. That would help me to where I am now. Like, that would help me to just boost everything that I'm doing. And that's why the internet's crazy if you use it right. Because there's infinite knowledge that you can just pick up on there.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But you have to really want to learn and you have to be willing to pay attention. Like even just the podcast space. Like you can just listen to all these. super smart, successful people have conversations and that information's right there if you're willing to actually like go for it. Exactly. I'm telling you like this next generation of kids that are raised on these
Starting point is 00:18:35 phones and iPads that are just have that shit in front of them, they may be a little weird but like watch out for them. They're going to be wicked smart. But they're also going to be really really dumb. It's going to be two parts of the spectrum bro. Really, really smart people and really, really dumb. I'm excited
Starting point is 00:18:51 to see what happens with the next generation. Like I really want to see this. The thing that scares The shud me is when I see like a TikTok that it's called like a stim TikTok. Stim TikTok where they'll have it's like stimulation. Like it'll have like a podcast clip and then they'll have like a crazy fast-paced video game clip below it and just realizing that that helps keep kids engaged and then realizing it's also working on me and I'm just staring at the video game footage and it's helping me to focus on the podcast clip.
Starting point is 00:19:18 That scares the shit out of me for the future generation. Because they're doing it as kids, bro, literally just yesterday. I'm literally listening to whatever the. I was in like a Twitch stream or whatever on TikTok. And it's just a person doing parkour on Minecraft. I'm like, bro, why is this working on me? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:19:35 That's shit crazy. Weird. But, okay, so you start doing the meme page thing and, like, when does it actually start to hit? So it started hitting. So when I hit that Explorer page that first time, like, ever since then, I was just steady growth. So, like, by the end of the year, like, literally, so by the end of the year, January 1st,
Starting point is 00:19:54 I hit 10K, like, on January 1st. like on January 1st Start off the year. Yeah, start off the year like 2019, January 1st, New Year's, I just start off, I get 10K and after 2019 though, that's when shit got a little rocky.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So like Instagram stayed deleting me because, you know, when there's shit's changing or whatever, like you can't curse, you can't do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And normally the algorithm doesn't care but all those old posts, anyone with a report bar
Starting point is 00:20:20 could literally just go through your shit, get you clipped. Like, I don't know what was going on with those people. people call report guys. There was like literally gangs, just internet people that just did not fuck with people that post memes. So they would just be constantly clapping my accounts.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And so with Instagram, what I'll do is I always use Twitter, but I only use it to make my memes. Like I literally like do my little caption, post my picture or the video and then edit it together, throw it in a post. That's how I did my shit. So when I'm, when my Instagram was banned,
Starting point is 00:20:49 I just went straight to Twitter. And I was forced to be on Twitter. Like basically I was forced to be on Twitter. But I never chose Twitter. Like, I just was forced to be. Like, I'm just an internet guy. Like, I got to be using my phone. I got to be seeing shit.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And if I'm not going to be on my Instagram shit, then I was just going to be on Twitter. So I started learning, right? A lot of people like NLE CHAPA and Blueface who tweet a lot. It's just because they have been like permanently banned from Instagram. You know, literally both of them, like, but with Twitter, a lot of people, tell me this truth. This is a cycle of Twitter, right?
Starting point is 00:21:19 You download Twitter. You're like, what the fuck? I don't understand anything. You delete it. and then you come back, whether it's months or years later, you come back, you start using the beginning. You're like, yo, this shit kind of fun. And that was the kind of shit that happened with me. So, like, I was like, this shit kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I still miss my meme page, though, but it's kind of fun. I get my meme page back like December, right? And then my Twitter gets clapped. So I'm like, fuck it. I got my Instagram page back. I don't care no more. February comes in. It's kind of hard to get a Twitter deleted, right?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Like, what were you doing? So the first time I ever got deleted was the only time that was really my fault. Like, I didn't understand Twitter like that. So, like, apparently if you said nigger twice in a reply. See, I heard you say that, and I've never heard of that before. That's crazy. That was 2019, though. So, 2019, if you said it twice in the reply, it's because you're adding them, right?
Starting point is 00:22:01 So the bot or whatever is like, they're saying a slur twice. Get them out of here. Well, I have a friend who I'm pretty sure got deleted on Twitter at one point for saying the N word, too, but it was the hard R. Oh, yeah, that's different. He was saying, he wrote like, I hate it. What? Hard R's or some shit with, like, a bunch of emojis or, you know, he's fucking around, but if you look at it and you're not thinking of it as a joke, you're like, oh, this is hate speech. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I mean, the reason I got banned that time is like, you had three strikes. That was my third strike at that point. So, like, they got me out of there. I didn't care, though. Like, I didn't have no attachment to Twitter at the time. So, like, Instagram got banned in February. And, bro, mind you, this is 2020. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know when COVID hit. This is March. I mean, COVID hit in 2020. Literally the week before COVID hit, I went viral for the first time on Twitter. And, like, at this point, I knew what I was doing. So, like, I just kept doing that shit. I was growing a little fan base or whatever. Like, and then COVID hit.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And a little, like, that was literally the blessing. Like, everybody in their mama's in the house. No one's at work. No one's at school. And they're just all on Twitter. And, like, a lot of people were new to Twitter. Like, they didn't know what the fuck was going on. And, like, basically just greeted them.
Starting point is 00:23:04 You know what I'm saying? Like, this is Twitter. I was posting my shit. It was all going viral every single day. And what made me stop caring about Instagram is like, bro, I literally gained 50K in a month. And when I got banned on Instagram at that time, I had like 60K. But that was over the course from 2018 to 2020, right? but on Twitter I went from like 4k to 50k in one month I got suspended but it's just like it made me realize I'm like yo I could do something with this
Starting point is 00:23:29 where do you think you get that sense of being able to you know not only like think of funny things to tweet but then also figure out how to say them in such a way that they do incredibly well on there because I have a fucking million followers and I have a hard time thinking this shit like it's easy to just write whatever you're thinking it's another thing to take that thought and wrap it in such a way and shape it to the point where people want to retweet it. Like that's a very specific skill. So like nowadays, you know, like Elon bought that all this other shit. Yeah, now it's a war zone. It's great for people like you that want to make offensive jokes on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I mean, like, so right now, like the easiest thing to do, like to really ease yourself. Because for me, I just have an internet brain. I'm not going to lie. So it's like different. But it's like right now quotes. Like you see a lot of quotes now. That's what's popping. Like quotes is the easiest shit ever.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Well, I mean, just posting a meme is the easiest. shit ever, but quotes are the easiest shit ever, because someone said something, now all you got to do is add on to it. So it's like, someone says some shit, you just got to fucking quote that shit and say whatever the fuck you want. Because a lot of times, it's different than just writing a tweet from scratch. I'll see you with like 100,000 likes on a response. And sometimes it'll be the most obvious fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It'll just be like a girl posting a picture and she'll have big ass feet. And you'll just quote tweet it and be like, bitch, you got big ass feet. Boom, 100,000 of likes. I know exactly what you're talking about too. Is that a real one? I just made that up, but it might have been influenced by one that I had seen before. This girl is a big-ass-fee-five-file-ffffum-ass feet. Like, just big-ass feet.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's literally like two days ago. Okay, yeah. I mean, I don't know. Close is just the easiest shit ever. And the algorithm favors it a lot. And then if you respond to it and put more responses in the quotes or below it, then that a lot of times I think helps keep it going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I don't really do the replies no more because, like, nowadays I just tweet and go. Like, I'm just on the go. but bro like I still miss old Twitter though because like at the end of the day to me word tweets are the best tweets like it's what makes Twitter Twitter like words like every other app you're on TikTok it's a video yeah on you're on Instagram is a picture or a video something special about just like a five word tweet that goes back but unfortunately like I fuck with Elon Musk yo fuck all the old Twitter staff I really hope they're struggling
Starting point is 00:25:41 to eat because it was just on dick for years for no reason but Elon Musk I haven't been suspended yet so I fuck with him but he changed the algorithm and word tweets aren't favored. Like, bro, tweets are what makes, like, what separates Twitter from everybody else. You can really just hop on there and just read shit. You don't have to see anything. You can just read it, but it's not favored in the algorithm no more.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I've noticed a lot of people that know this shit, like anyone that has a lot of followers, they don't do word tweets as much. I still do it because at the end of the day is the best tweets to me, but a lot of people don't do it because you're not going to go viral as often. It's like a hit or miss. You could tweet the funniest shit ever,
Starting point is 00:26:17 and it's a word tweet, it just doesn't hit the algorithm. But sometimes you'll see people go on Superviral with like a really long tweet. It just has a fuckload of information or like a thread of multiple tweets in a row, which is like another brand. Twitter is, to me, it's still like the best app. There's so much information on there. There's just everything's on there. If you want to know what's going on in the moment, it's the only app. Because it's like during the fucking protest and the riots and shit in 2020, it's like you go on TikTok, you're going to see some girl dancing from fucking two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You know, you go on Instagram. It's like, it's too curated. It's everybody that you know and what they're up to and shit. But Twitter, you actually feel like you can see what's happening as it's happening. Or like during a fucking UFC fight. What are you going to look at? You go to Twitter because you know you're going to see everybody you know talking about that shit in real time. Like, Max, like, Max is two days that you're going to see old.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Unless someone just retweets an old tweet. But it's literally everything was today from yesterday or two days ago. That's it. Like, you know what I'm saying? How many hours a day you think you're on Twitter? So, like, at my peak, my peak was obviously COVID. So I would say, right now, I'm not on Twitter that way. I'm not going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Like, if you noted, like, if anyone has noticed, I don't be on Twitter as much. I still be tweeting a lot, but I would say on average, on a, like, if I'm really, like, let's say it's a good week, right? Average would be six to eight hours. Right. Like, swear to God. But at my peak was COVID, I was dead out on there all day, bro. Shit crazy. And I remember, because I got suspended hell of times.
Starting point is 00:27:42 When I got suspended during COVID, I would be like, bro, like, no notifications coming in, no nothing. I'm like, damn, what the fuck do I do now? It sucks. Like, bro, like, it was just boring as fuck without it. I'm like, damn, but I always gave myself that little break because whenever I was on Twitter, I was literally on there every day, like, just tweeting. So it's like, but I don't know. Like, at first I was doing it for the love of the game and I still do it, but you saw that the new payouts and shit, right? Like, people getting paid and shit now.
Starting point is 00:28:11 That shit is ass, by the way. I've been telling people like if you want to get on Twitter to get to that point you're gonna have to do it for the love of the game you can't do it for money because the money will come
Starting point is 00:28:21 when you're big when I was first doing it wasn't for the money but bro the payouts are just dog shit how bad is it like so you get a lot of fucking views let me show you how bad it is
Starting point is 00:28:30 right so off one quote like if someone pays me for promo and I do a quote off that one tweet because these ex payouts the Twitter payouts they come out every two weeks
Starting point is 00:28:39 you get it every two weeks so two weeks So two weeks of accumulating your views and getting your money up, I make that off. Like, I'll make more off one person buying a quote suite. So it's like, I always got promos. That's how I always made money on Twitter. And like that's still the main way I make money on Twitter. Not the payouts.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Like those payouts aren't shit. What do you make? Like a thousand bucks a month, a couple thousand? Oh yeah, a couple thousand like off the payouts. Like that's it. Right. That shit is not it. Like it's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:07 You know what I'm saying? A couple extra rack. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's cool. But you're also one of the most viral people on the, platform. So think about how it is for everybody else. I'm saying, like, I could only imagine, like, bro, two of my friends that, like, that are actually big on Twitter, like,
Starting point is 00:29:19 that do the same shit as me, they don't even get paid because the other person, I don't know what it is with them, but the other person, like the other other person, he put the wrong country and you can't fix it. So, like, they go super viral every single day they have not made a penny. So it's like they literally do it for the love of the game, bro. Like, I respect that, I guess. Damn, yeah. They're missing out on.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I still haven't signed up for that shit. Yeah, and you know Ian Miles Chung or not? Yeah, but he, I remember him posting him getting like 10 grand in like a week. Yeah, so people like him actually make the most off these payouts or whatever. Why? Because so first off, they spam tweet. So like they're just accumulating like me. Like I'll tweet every hour or a couple hours.
Starting point is 00:29:58 So like I'm actually not, I don't tweet as much as people think I tweet. Like somebody try to make each one count. Yeah, like I remember back then I used to tweet every hour on the dot. Like as soon as I'll know when I was going to tweet nowadays, I'm just on a whim. Like I was just, you know what I'm saying? It was different back then But for him he spams a lot And he just has engagement baiting tweets
Starting point is 00:30:16 Like he makes people mad at all this And another thing Like this is what people have to understand Anyone watching this Cursing actually fucks it up About that I think I would get paid more If I just didn't curse I'm pretty sure every tweet that I say
Starting point is 00:30:27 Niga in I just get zero dollars Off that tweet I can't like confirm it or nothing But I'm pretty sure like So at Ian Miles Chiang he's fucking spamming it Like this is how you make money off payouts Like listen Spam tweeting
Starting point is 00:30:40 engagement baiting. You have to actually interact with people. You all people will be forgetting that. You have to interact and you can't curse if you want to make maximum money. Like that's how you make the payals. I'm pretty sure that's what really makes my pales trash. I curse a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And I just don't care. Because brands, like advertisers really don't want to be next to edgy content. Like anything about abortion or, you know, birth control, shit like that. Like they go so hard. And now they have algorithmic AI bots that basically like can detect if a website has shit about abortion on. And then it just won't run any ads on that shit. So that content, to be a publisher to run a website that does content about like abortion and war and shit is just like a terrible business to be in because you're not going to be able to make any fucking money off it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And people also, they don't realize like they think you get paid off the views. Like, you know, you're getting paid off people scrolling the ads in your replies. You're not getting paid off how many views you get. You could get 10 million views, but if no one's checking the replies or if you have comments turn off, you're not getting no money because it's all about people scrolling through your replies. That's how you make bread off the payouts. Which is so weird that he chose like this one part of the site to monetize. It's just the response. You know what he's doing, bro?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Otherwise, bro, I promise you all would be sitting in fucking Dubai on a camel right now if he did what he was supposed to do with that payout shit. Like, shit's ass. But like people was asking me literally today, they're asking me, is it worth it? Is it worth it? I'm like, I want to, I just be honest with him like, you're going to have to do it for the love of the game. Like, until you're, you have a couple hundred thousand followers and you're making money off people like sponsoring you.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You're not making no money off the payouts. Like don't go to Twitter and think you're going to blow up and make bank off the house. Unless you're E.M. Miles Chung. I don't know. Like that guy, you just,
Starting point is 00:32:22 I don't know, though. I mean, it is crazy because if you want to get responses, you just kind of have to, like, create conversations. And it doesn't matter,
Starting point is 00:32:30 like, if you really agree with what you're saying. Like, even the other day, I saw my chick, she was going to a fucking party and she was wearing this dress that was like super fucking slutty looking. I'm like, watch this.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I fucking film her walking towards the door in it. And I just post, I wrote, is this an appropriate outfit for my girl to wear without me? 80,000 likes because I asked a question that I already know what the fuck the average person's answer is going to be. And I know that everybody's going to take it as a chance to dunk on me and be like, sure, you already fucked another dude on camera.
Starting point is 00:32:59 So obviously it shouldn't matter. You know, so it's like I'm setting myself up for it. But it works. And I got like, you know, 10,000 followers or some shit that day. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:33:06 that's just crazy, man. Like, I don't know. And it's also funny too because all these verified people like me personally, I don't go a lot. Like it's like I always had Twitter blue like before it's called Twitter premium. Always had blue. Like people think I bought it for the check. No, bro. I just always had it. Like I was actually verified before that shit was even a thing. But so I bought Twitter blue and I just always had it. And then when the check shit came out, I was like, damn. Like now people don't think I bought it because of the check. But all the people that buy it and their own replies, like they're trying to make money off the payouts. Who knows what living conditions people are in, right?
Starting point is 00:33:39 You got to do what you got to do. So, like, if you were going to make money, like, eventually you get to the point with your Twitter account, people know your shit's going to go viral. So you could say anything that's going to spawn with hundreds of comments. And it's like, damn, like, there's always going to be replies. Like, you don't even, you just got to work for it. Like, it just eventually comes.
Starting point is 00:33:56 But so they make money off their own responses, and the responses to your shit as well, or they're just trying to get followers? It's both. Like, I'm pretty sure you can make money. I think at first you come in. money off your own replies but after like they made some update and you don't call me on it I don't know I haven't checked in a while because I don't care about the payouts so I haven't done
Starting point is 00:34:14 much research but at first I know for a fact you could get you could get paid off your own replies to another person but now I don't know but so what's it like for you being young as fuck getting hundreds and hundreds of thousands of followers and shit like that and then meanwhile like most of the people who look at the account don't even know what you look like right like do you ever have to do a face reveal or we always kind of putting it out there. So with Instagram, when I hit that 10K milestone, I did my little face reveal. Like, I didn't
Starting point is 00:34:43 have a other personal Instagram account that they knew of. And when I started Twitter for a little bit, no one knew what I, like literally nobody, right? Like, there was some people that knew it, but I never hit it. I just never posted. Like, I had no reason, but I had no drip, no bands yet. Like, I'm not going to, like, I
Starting point is 00:34:59 could post a selfie or whatever, but it's like, you know, I'm not going to do all that right now. So eventually, as time on Bro, like people started to recognize me. Like even though, like, obviously right now I'm the biggest I've ever been to date, but it's like kind of weird. Like right now, like, bro, you could literally, there would be some people like, you know who this is. And they'll show the account. They're like, oh, hey, that's you.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So they didn't know what I look like, what they knew the account. And also it's like, in terms of Twitter, I'm one of like, I don't know. I want to say I'm the first or whatever was like I'm one of those people where it's like all the other people that do the same shit as me. They don't really post themselves. They don't really go out. They're not like really. I don't know what's saying networking or whatever the fuck. They're just doing Twitter.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And that's cool. Like you just focus on whatever. But it's like, so I'm kind of like navigating new realms. And bro, I will tell you what helped with more people recognize on my face. Bro. Like I started boxing this year,
Starting point is 00:35:48 right? And bro, when I lost, that shit went crazy viral. Like even not. Like most of the time when people come up to me nowadays, they're like, oh wait,
Starting point is 00:35:56 you're recording from Twitter. Like you started boxing, right? Yeah. I saw that box. I was probably how a lot of people saw you for the first time. Yeah. Like the boxes are like,
Starting point is 00:36:03 like, luckily I, I won that rematch whatever, but like that first fight, like I would say definitely just boosting my popularity in terms of people actually see me and they recognize me. Before, there would be people that knew me, but they didn't know what I looked like. They're like, bro, it's so crazy because I follow you. I don't know what you look like. But it's crazy too because I literally be posting fitpicks pretty recently. I mean, pretty common. Like, nowadays I ain't go a lot. Like the past two months, I barely posted, but I was literally like for a time
Starting point is 00:36:30 consistently posting fit pics. And going viral for it. With the boxing show, what made you want to do? that. So what really started is, bro, like in 2021, they had that YouTubers versus TikTok shit. So, like, I was like, damn, like, if I'm ever in that position to be able to box, I'll actually do it. And later that year, this is 2021. Later that year, I got into it with Keemstar. And so basically, Kimstar doesn't like me. I don't really like Keymstar at that time. And then again, this year, it happened again in like January, February, we got into it because I don't remember what he said, some dumb shit or whatever the fuck. He went back and forth. Then he went into spaces. Everyone's adding me like, bro, get in here.
Starting point is 00:37:05 So I get in there. We have our back and forth. I get bored. So I'm like, bro, this kind of boring. So I'm a dip. Keemstar is like, yo, Coon, would you be down a box? I'm like, shit, I mean, no. Like, I always said I'll do it if I had the opportunity.
Starting point is 00:37:17 So I jumped on it. I had no idea he meant like the show was going to be in like three months though. Like that was, I still decided to do it because I was like, bro, I kind of want to do it. Had you ever done any kind of boxing or anything? No, no, no, no, no. Never did no type of boss. Like, in terms of sports and shit, I was like a soccer dude track. Like, that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I didn't even. I'm like it's so crazy when I started boxing like I just gained a new found respect for those people Because I was one of those dudes like after a fight I'm just cooking the shit out of the nigga But now it's like different like damn like that shit is hard to even get to that level, bro Right like holy shit so you didn't have that much time to train for the first one But because I noticed like a huge change in your skill level like you went from like kind of getting your ass beat on the first one To basically beating the shit out of him in the second one yeah so in the first one I wasn't at a hundred percent either That fight would have still been asked
Starting point is 00:38:03 Just because of the first fight Would have still been ass But it's even more ass Because I was like I was actually real life sick And but the second fight I was able to get like Just polish my skills And I was actually at 100%
Starting point is 00:38:16 So I was like fine I actually get to like see what I do When I'm like operating at maximum Like this is our You know what I'm saying But so who was that guy anyway So funny story Like the first person I was actually supposed to box
Starting point is 00:38:28 Was another Twitter dude Because they were trying to figure You're like so like because it's hard to gauge how big I am because Twitter is weird from TikTok. Like you can have six million followers on TikTok and nobody will know you. But on Twitter it's like so at the time I had like 500K followers. So it's like people know me. But it's like unless it's another Twitter dude, how are they like how do you like match up with someone like as popular? It's so weird because a lot of actual famous people would have like half a million on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:38:57 But like your and then on all the other platforms they'd be kind of big. whereas you have just kind of like figured out how to blow up on this one specific platform as a way to gain notoriety. Exactly. But I was going to fight this dude on Twitter. His name was Breezy. Shout out him. He actually chill as fuck, but he ain't have no visa.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So they were trying to figure out, wait, who should he fight? Who should he fight? They switched out so many people and they landed on this dude. This dude is called Unbear. No, I'm saying. I'm actually going, I'm probably going to fight him again as a trilogy. Oh, wow. But not three times in a row.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I'm going to still fight someone else before that. But so, yeah, he's literally, he's really, he was like he had like 300k on tic-tok this was like someone they had to get last minute i'm talking i'm talking about two weeks before to fight so he had two weeks to train bro and that's another reason why people was cooking the shit out of me he had two weeks to train i had like two months and uh it was in the uk all that shit but that's really how most people know him from like from that fight no one really knew him like he had like i said bro you can have followers on ticot and nobody will know who you are like that app is not real but yeah yeah like he's really like he's really like
Starting point is 00:40:00 nobody really knows him like but okay you lose like you you finish the final round of the first fight what's going through your head did you feel like you lost or was it kind of all lost in the fog so the first fight that first round i personally like that was the round that i felt like i actually did good after that that's when it's like oh so like the first round and you're super out of breath too yeah so after the first round i basically i said i'm like damn like that's all my energy gone because like i had like bro i'm telling you so the only shit i ate that day was two bites of a watermelon and one bite of a sandwich because I broke up late like I was woken up late and oh that's just I don't really like like this like PTSD type shit but so I woke up
Starting point is 00:40:42 oh they we're supposed to be at the rent at two I woke up at two I wake up I still have my little cough or whatever but I honestly didn't care because in my mind I'm like bro this thing has two weeks of training bro like even if I'm sick I don't care I'm going in and I'm going to beat the shit out of him but and you can't let everybody down by exactly but really what cook me was that food situation and I'm not blaming nobody but myself for that obviously I should have just ate but so by the first round I have no energy so it's like at the end of first round I'm like I won that but can I really keep this up for the next two rounds the end of the second round um I honestly felt like like this is I'm just giving my real thoughts I was like one more round and I might actually
Starting point is 00:41:20 win like that's what I was thinking obviously when I watch back now because I'm way better now than I was that first fight obviously I'm like nigga that's just dog shit like just ass And then after, actually the end of the second round, when I stood up for the third round to start, everything was losing. I'm like, this is it. I have zero. Like I'm, you have zero.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I had negative energy, bro. And I was just, everyone says, bro, slow motion punches. Like, it really felt like that. That day is not real, bro. Right, because, okay. It's not real. I've noticed this multiple times, like when Nate Robinson lost to Jake Paul on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:41:54 black Twitter is huge. If you are a black person and you get beat by a white person in a boxing match, they will have a fucking field day with you. Yes. How was that? So, bro, my phone was blowing up because I didn't really get to my phone to like an hour after the fight. So my phone is blowing the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I was like, yep, do not disturb. I did not check none of my notifications. Anybody who texted me saying any negative shit or whatever, like completely ignored. But I looked on the timeline. It was, I looked at my notifications. And I would only, dead ass, before I tweeted, because I didn't tweet for hours.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Before I tweeted, I only check the app like two times for a couple minutes because I really didn't even like it was just crazy. I personally, it was funny to me in a sense, but I was also just disappointed in myself. So it's like I just, I'm the type of dude like hate doesn't get to me because like I'm just not going to read the shit. You know what I'm saying? Like the shit don't exist if I close my phone. So they really started cooking me once I, like when I finally tweeted because my plan was I was going to win the fight and then tweet the next day. Like I was just not going to say shit. But because I had lost, I was like, damn, should I just tweet while I have it here?
Starting point is 00:43:00 So my first tweet, I don't know if you've seen that picture of grew standing over the minions. I just tweeted that because the context is, I have some bad news. So everyone who used in Twitter knew the context. And then the second tweet, I was just like, I forgot what I fucking said. Oh, yeah, I was just like, did Einstein really kill himself, whatever? Just like trying to be funny, like trying to change the topic or whatever. But it was like, at that time, bro, I was like, damn, like, is it over? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Well, you're like, people won't ever laugh on my Twitter again because I got beat up because I think if anything you realize like, oh, this shit doesn't matter that much. Like, you didn't get famous for being tough in the first place, right? Yeah, so like honestly, I mean, I still don't, like, I wish I would have won the first fight,
Starting point is 00:43:41 but like, it taught me a lot. But so for that first day, I only tweeted those two things. And then the next day, I just didn't tweet all day because, like, I was still sick. Like, it actually got worse after the fight. Like, I was on that plane dying, bro. But when I got home, I was just chilling.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And I was just, you know what I'm saying? Just talking to people that I fuck with, wasn't on Twitter, wasn't using it. And then the next day, I'm like, all right, let's test the waters. I tweet something funny. Obviously, all the replies are people cooking me, but I'm still going viral. So I was like, y'all niggas is fraud, bro. Niggas was cooking the shit out of me. I thought niggas hated me, bro, the way they was talking.
Starting point is 00:44:13 But I'm still going viral on every tweet. So I was like, this shit only going last two weeks. They're only going to keep posting those clips and shit for like a couple weeks. And I already barely read replies. So after that, I just literally stopped reading replies. I only get notifications if I've, if I follow you or if you're just really big or some shit. So I only clicked on those.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I'll do my reply and then that's it. Like the shit's not going to get to me if I don't look at it. You know what I'm saying? With Twitter and really every social network, it's very easy to fall into the thinking of like, oh, this is real life and I need to read every fucking response and all that shit. And like sometimes it's just really important to just take a step back, not look at the shit for a while,
Starting point is 00:44:48 miss a couple days of responses on Twitter. And like, you know, I've been horrible at this throughout my life. But to even just be. able to say like, all right, I'm going to put my phone in the other room and I'm going to just hang out with my kid for a few hours and just not even think about whatever fucking hellstorm I'm going through on Twitter. It could just be like, you know, exactly what you need. People have real problems with that, though. They feel like they have to, I don't know what it is
Starting point is 00:45:10 because I've just always been that person. I couldn't detach from anything. So it's honestly easy for me. But people will read every comment, every reply, every name, like, every hate from. Like, bro, I was telling this girl, like, you can't be doing that. Like, you're going out of your way. to make yourself pissed off or sad or depressed. Like you're going out of your way to do that. If you just didn't shake, you're straight. If you are, like, showing too much emotion on Twitter, people will just feel that and just sink their teeth in.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You need to be able to take time away from it or just show them, like, you don't give a fuck by just not tweeting too much for a while. And that shit will just, like, kind of lessen the tension usually. That ass, like, the golden key. Like, people don't realize that. So if you're going to be sad or mad about it, just don't do it on the internet.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like, release your attention. in real life, no one can fucking see you, do whatever the fuck you got to do. Right. But on Twitter or Instagram, don't get, like, mad or whatever. Don't reply to any of the hate tweets. So for me, I just didn't look at it. So I never had the temptation to cook somebody or like just fry this shit. Because even if I did fry them, I'm just going to get cooked.
Starting point is 00:46:11 They're just going to be in our replies, clowning me. So for me, what I did, I literally ignored it. I never showed any response. I never said anything. And eventually they just stopped like, damn, this shit boring. This nigga has no reaction. Fuck you. You're just going to stop.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Like simple as that. Right. It was funny too. And people just forget shit really quick. You know, like I've had friends where I had to like advise them on that. Like trust me, nobody is going to be talking about this in three or four days. You got to just ride it out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And it's like, it's especially true because that's second fight when I won. Obviously, so the first fight you had KSI and all that other shit. So it was naturally going to be bigger because like that's what people mainly watch the misfits and all that other shit for. It's just like the big dogs like KSI, Logan Paul, whatever. The second fight wasn't like a KSI event. So it was like a normal misfits event. So automatically less people have heard of it. But after I won, the people that were watching, there wasn't that many tweets.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Like there wasn't and no haters, obviously, because I won. But it was just like, it was overwhelmingly crazy how less like reactions it got. When I lost that fight, every streamer was reacting to it. Kaysenat was reacting to it. there was articles being written, all this other shit. But when I won, it was just crickets, bro. That's why I got that shit pinned. Like, I just have that shit pin.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So every time a nigga click on my page, it just reminds them. And it's crazy because no one really saw that shit because, like, it's crazy how much negativity helps you grow. Like, there's so many people that, like, if they, if they meet me, they're like, yo, what's up? I saw your box. And I'm blah, blah, blah. They actually, I'll be like, bro, you know, I got my get back, right? They're like, wait, you did? They actually haven't heard of the second fight.
Starting point is 00:47:50 They only know about that first one. So it was like that first one actually blew me up And the second one was cool Like if anyone wanted to watch the continuation of it, I guess Did you actually get a shit out of followers From losing the fight? Just because so many people were talking about it? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So when I lost the fight for a little bit, I was gaining and then after that I was naturally just tweeting less So like it kind of slowed down But like when I first lost that fight I was getting like thousands and thousands and thousands But I also feel like if I had won the fight I probably would have like
Starting point is 00:48:18 Hit a million followers quicker and shit like that But who knows? knows like that's just a theory so are you really trying to take the boxing thing to the furthest extent that you can like are you trying could you see yourself so I always said this is what I said from the beginning like I'm a dude of boxing shit because I'm some discipline shit like that shit really disciplines you I'm a do the boxing shit and then I'm a fight under that kSI versus Logan Paul I mean not Logan ball Jake Paul shit when they finally fight if they ever fight because that's the main thing that people are waiting for that's like the fucking season
Starting point is 00:48:49 like ending like season finale of this whole influencer box and shit. If it ever happens, I'm a fight under that and then I'm gonna retire. That's what I always said. I'm gonna retire after that. Oh, so you just want to have a little run you're not trying to like do this for years? So I'm trying to do everything. I've always
Starting point is 00:49:05 said I'm trying to do everything, bro. I started boxing this year, bro, I walked New York fashion week. That she was insane. I walked to you to do that. So, like my boy Dremo, he worked with this company called Creators Inc. and they just do a lot of events. You probably know them.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So yeah. Only fans management should do. Exactly. So shout out creators, Zink. Shout out Andy. But like literally just, I just flew out there and they're like,
Starting point is 00:49:31 yeah, you can run? I mean, you can do the walk. Fuck you. Like, just went in there. Like,
Starting point is 00:49:34 it was just crazy. So I'm trying to do everything, but I'm trying to act. I'm going to, I just started streaming again because I used to stream, but like now I moved out. It's different now.
Starting point is 00:49:43 But I used to stream. So I'm trying to stream again. I'm trying to just do everything. The IRA streaming? or, what kind of streaming? So right now, like, it's just, because before I was still at my mom house, like, yo, like my mom, I would be streaming.
Starting point is 00:49:54 My mom would turn off the internet, though. Like, this is like 2020. My mom would turn off the internet. And that shit would piss me off. So I buy my own internet. I bought my own router. So she stopped turning it off. But it just wasn't hidden to me.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Like, I was like, damn, like, this Twitter shit is just way more fun to me. So I stopped. But now I'm in a new house, new crib, new room. It's just a different feeling. So it's still kind of IRA. It's like half IRA. Like, I couldn't get people on there. Like, we couldn't, like, literally.
Starting point is 00:50:18 collab and do shit. That's like what I'm planning. But January, because, yo, I'd be out a lot. Like, I'll be in Miami. I'll be in LA. I'll be doing shit. I'm like, imagine if there was just a camera and this shit was live. Like, I feel like so many people have missed out on crazy moments because my dumb ass don't really be doing video content. All my shit has always been mainly Twitter or like Instagram shit, but it wouldn't be of me. So all this shit I'd be doing, like there's probably so much crazy shit that could have went viral that people never know even exists. You know what I'm saying? So it's wild because like creators ink did a party on Halloween. That's where I met neon and I'm at the I was thinking it was going to be this little chill party. So I'm not even thinking about security or anything like that. And then I see neon. I say what up to him all of a sudden I look at Twitter and I realize that the clips of me talking to neon are already fucking getting hell of retweets and shit. I'm realizing like oh, anyone could easily figure out I'm here. And it's just such a weird feeling to feel like you're out in public just doing some normal human being shit and then realizing like oh no, I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:51:18 totally like under the fucking microscope right now because anything that happens to me is going to get blasted out to like 100,000 people right now. Yeah, literally like. And it's crazy because you saw a speed like both speed got swatted recently. I mean, it was kind of like you can't be showing the outside of your house. Last night, Neon got fucking his manager got the shit beat out of them. I know a lot of people think that shit's fake, but he facetimbing and talked to me about it for like 10 minutes and he had a fucking bootmark on his forehead and shit.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like he really had dudes run down on him and I'm not, I don't think it was a beef thing. But they also didn't steal anything. So, I mean, people are trying to make it I don't know what's going on with that Cause like, Neon has like fake getting jumped or whatever Exactly, yeah But like when I don't know what like Which ones are real or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:51:58 But it's like when it finally happens like the boy who cried wolf Exactly Nobody believes you now Those three black kids who tied him to the tree That shit was fake Yeah, but then now he's having some shit That seems like it's actually real And everybody like he just
Starting point is 00:52:10 At a certain point he shouldn't keep joking around with that shit That's the thing with neon like Just his whole fame It's like yeah you got it But you have to fake your dad death twice and all this other shit. It's like, you reap what you sow. So it's like now when all this shit is happening,
Starting point is 00:52:24 it's like nobody believes you. It's kind of crazy. But he couldn't use that to his advantage. There's so many people rooting for neon to fail. If anything does happen to him, everybody's just, yeah. Because nobody realizes how big he is. Yeah, he might, like whatever followers or viewers,
Starting point is 00:52:39 but it's like in terms of how many people know him, like anyone who saw him before, like his peak, like he's at his peak right now. Anyone who saw him before probably hated his guts. So now they see him. him and they just like hate like they just want him to fail the thing is is that everything is fake for him because yesterday he was hanging out with crickmac at the zoo and shit and he's hanging out with them and crickmack's throwing a hot dog at him and shit and i don't know if they
Starting point is 00:53:00 planned out the hot dog throwing but then he's talking to the camera just saying hey fuck you crick mac you're a piece of shit bitch pussy yada yada yada yada yada yeah and it's like i'm talking to his manager and it's like neon's just saying that shit for content but at the same time it's like it's only a matter of time so you run into somebody who really is going to take you serious and do something to you and he rolls around with security and shit but last night they got ran up on and it didn't seem like the security mattered
Starting point is 00:53:24 so I don't know like it's just playing with fire and everybody who IRL streams it ends up going badly in the long run and I'm not saying that's going to happen to him but it would not surprise me. Yeah I mean it just depends because it's kind of crazy anyone who gets to that level there's some sort of
Starting point is 00:53:40 shameless shit that they had to do to get there it's kind of weird so it's like once that's what people are seeing you for and once you realize that's how you are getting views. You keep doing it and eventually, like, you just bite off more than you couldn't shoot. Like, that's just how it goes. Yeah, it's almost like letting some guy
Starting point is 00:53:55 fuck your wife for clout, bro. Can we talk about that, bro? I think that's how we first started talking is because you were quote, no, you quote tweeted the wedding video. Yeah. And it got like, I can't remember the exact numbers. I think the wedding video might have
Starting point is 00:54:09 like a million views or two million views on Twitter. And by the time your quote tweet was done to have like 80 million views. Bro. So, okay, so talking to me, bro. So you're telling me, you guys have been together for, what, like, six, seven years? Seven or eight years, yeah. So, like, she just never fucked a dude until you got married?
Starting point is 00:54:26 Facts. Actually, honestly, the fact that it happened so close to the wedding was, like, not something that we talked about or that we cared about at all. Because it's, like, nothing really changed with us when we got married. Type shit. We already had been living together. We already had a kid. So we were already, like, basically married. Then we just had this fucking ceremony.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And, yeah, her doing the scene didn't really have anything to do with it. I mean, so would you. So would you say it's like Like that was for the better Like everything that's happened since like just for the better I'm happy with how it turned out for sure And let me let me just tell you this so Like internet shit aside
Starting point is 00:54:55 I always say like bro this dude smart for that Like I personally I don't I agree with it but it's like Do what you gotta do It definitely made me a million times better at like Internet marketing and like understanding Going viral in general But I'll tell you this is that
Starting point is 00:55:09 So when she did the scene with the other dude I was a little bit torn where on one sense It's just business but on the other hand, it's like, well, you were sucking another dude's dick in a hotel room with a cameraman. You know, it doesn't necessarily make you feel the best as a guy. But like, I fucked her with the dude who won the reality show the other day. And I was having a blast. You know, as soon as we get going, I'm fucking jamming her head down on his dick and shit, just having a great time with it.
Starting point is 00:55:33 So, I mean, now I'm kind of feeling different about it where I'm like, maybe I actually am comfortable with this, where it's like, Oh, you have to donate. It took some mental gymnastics to make myself comfortable with it. but now having actually done it, I just didn't really feel jealous like I thought I was going to feel when I was doing it. Well, you have got to donate your brain of science. You have to.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Because holy shit. You know what it is to me too? It's like it was just an issue of me doing what I felt like doing slash what was best for business versus my desire to not get made fun of on the internet. And it's kind of like for a lot of people like Neon, like he's baiting negative attention
Starting point is 00:56:12 all the time. Now, granted, it's just negative attention because he's kind of a pussy or he looks like a bitch or whatever the way he acts on camera and stuff. But it's kind of like the same thing with me. It's like, all right, you can call me a cuck. If it's going to work marketing wise and it's going to make us all this money and shit, all right. I'll deal with it. You're the sacrificial line of it. I'm sacrificing myself for myself. Like shit. So it's kind of, it is kind of weird. Like you, because realistically, like, I've never had a business like this. But the plug talk thing, the porn thing, it's kind of like we have to create controversy in order to get eyeballs on it. It's very rare that you're just going to do something that people are going to be 100% positive about
Starting point is 00:56:50 that will also be viral. Yeah. Like it's crazy. Like negativity is just king. I don't know. I always said like you have to have fans and haters. Like the haters actually help you. Like anybody who's aspiring to be anything that involves having eyes on you,
Starting point is 00:57:10 Like you have like you actually have to embrace the haters like that shit really helps you and Honestly I remember for a while bro because when I first started like let's say like Twitter when I first started bro every reply It's really just dick riders like every nigga like it was a thing at the time like when a when a nigga tweets like it's just all positive like off the doom blah blah blah like you thought you know what I'm saying you just did this shit like a couple years ago if you had one person who who commented the same exact response on your tweets you would think that that person was insane and you would be like what the fuck is wrong with this dude that is so normal now that you would never even notice or think about it twice that because people are just chasing clout and also it's helping you to have people responding even if it's annoying exactly i remember when i was first blowing up uh people realize like if i turn on his notifications and i reply soon as he tweets uh that shit has a like way more chance of going viral or whatever the fuck when his tweet goes viral so i had a bunch of people that would
Starting point is 00:58:07 have my notifications on you have the normal people that are just reply guys are just fans. Then you had the haters and they would reply with some crazy shit. But I remember this one time, bro. So this is before I really was showing my face. My face was out there, but it's like you have to go out of your way to look for it. This dude literally went through my tagged on Instagram. So I had an Instagram. It's public. If you see it, you see it. But I didn't realize like my tags and shit was public. And I had just graduated high school. My mom posted like a picture of me. And I graduated in 2020. So like I was a COVID fucking grad baby. So my show was like online or whatever, but she took a picture. This dude screenshots it. Puss in her reply. He's like,
Starting point is 00:58:43 this you? And like, bro, before anybody told me that he said that, they're all quoting it. Like, it's like they're trying to show concern. Like, yo, you're weird for this. But in a way, it's like, you don't actually, yeah, like, you're just trying to get likes, bro, because why nobody, like I had to, imagine you're just scrolling. You're, you're technically faceless, but you're not faceless. You're scrolling and you just see your face on a time on. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, boy, are you good, bro? Delete this. And it turned out. He wasn't even trying to be no hater. When he said this you, because you know what this you is, right? Like this you?
Starting point is 00:59:12 When someone says that they're trying to cook you, this nigga was like, probably some kid and he was like, I was generally wondering, like, is this you? Because people didn't know what I fucking look like. I was like, oh, I mean, yeah, it's me, bro, but just deleting. He was like, okay, cool. Like, but it's just, I don't know, bro. So are you concerned with that, like, hiding certain parts of your private
Starting point is 00:59:28 life and shit? Because the more famous you get, the more you start to value, oh, I'm going to like have people not know about this part of my life. Exactly. Like, for me, it's like, you can say, whatever you want me just leave my family alone Like my main issue with that one was
Starting point is 00:59:42 Like the nigger could have scroll Like my mom's Instagram was public Told her I to private it But it's like I don't want nobody to just be able to look through My mom's Instagram because she's just a normal woman Like you don't need weird people Going on there
Starting point is 00:59:57 But yeah so I just have certain shit that I But honestly I've been like damn Like I'd be hiding shit that I wouldn't mind People knowing like I feel like Certain aspects of my life If I just had recorded it Like, it'll just go wild. Like, there's so many people that just want to see more of me.
Starting point is 01:00:12 It's kind of weird. And I'm just like, I ain't Playboy Cardi, bro. I'm not really no mysterious-ass niggas. So it's like, bro, I'm gonna, like, next year is really when I switch the content from what I'm doing now to like actually me, like, videos and shit. So we don't see how that goes. It is weird, though, that, like, we think of Cardi as being this insanely mysterious person because he just chooses to not post. And we know a lot of people who are like that who, like, don't really post on Instagram. they don't really tweet or whatever they just live their life and they're not concerned with documenting it
Starting point is 01:00:42 but for a celebrity to do that it makes us super fucking fascinated and curious about them and and the fans like any real fans have this lust for like uncovering details about you even for somebody like you know like bro they have be hacking this eye cloud and all this other shit that's the problem with that though like it was probably happened even if he was recording a lot but just i mean even if he was posting a lot and actually dropping music but it's just crazy like the price of fame my good I mean, because I've seen both sides of it with the kid thing, where we posted the kid for the first two years of her life, two and a half years. And then when all that shit was going viral, I just decided like, you know what? Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:01:18 We're not doing this anymore. We're just going to completely not share my kid with the world. And a lot of my followers were disappointed about it. But for me, it just makes, like, if you really want something to be special to you, don't make content about it. Don't share it with the world. Just keep it to yourself. Because at a certain point, she'll be grown up enough that she's, you know, she'll just be like a person in my fucking vlogs or like you'll just see her and she'll just
Starting point is 01:01:41 be a human being but you know for now it's like the nicest thing that you could do is to just keep keep them off that part of your life separate from the world you know yeah because like I mean they're a kid but I already know like what's the type of shit they were saying they'll be like oh they're gonna cook her in school blah blah blah blah but yeah and much worse yeah I don't know like that kind of makes me wonder about the family channels like like the last family vlog or whatever I saw is like It's kind of cool because they'll be recording the kids. Like they were playing like flag football or some shit. It's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:02:11 But it's also like is anything real in that dynamic? A lot of it is fake as fuck because those people just have the incentives to fake everything. So I've seen family channel downfall videos where it's like, holy shit. They're pretending that they're getting divorced every couple of months and they're, you know, just like. That's what I'm running do for real. Why are you pretending to get divorced? Well, I really fucked up shit too. Like the daddy of five channel was famous because of the fact that they basically had the kids kind of
Starting point is 01:02:37 like hitting each other and shit to get these weird little viral moments of like one of the kids picking on the other kids and it's like holy shit you have strayed so far from what being a parent is supposed to be now luckily they were suspended by YouTube and stuff and I feel like they've tried to make comebacks and people just cook them to death because they're such pieces of shit during that whole thing I mean yeah there's like multiple lenses to look at it because you remember that angry grandpa dude yeah it's like shit like that like oh start off as real and then when you realize like holy you she gets so much views all this shit.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Eventually, because I don't remember when I stopped watching it. Like, I know he's dead now and shit, but I remember when I was watching it as a kid. I don't know what, like, at what certain point the shit became fake.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Because obviously not every video can be real. Like, when you're posting that often and it's one niche or whatever. So it's like, some shit will literally work because, like, that's the real life. And then eventually,
Starting point is 01:03:27 like, you just kind of, it's just kind of over. Okay, like the Twitter version of that is saying something that you don't necessarily agree with or that you know as fucking. up or mean or shitty just because you know it's going to perform well that on there because on Twitter cruelty is extremely viral yeah you just tell someone there a piece of shit you are up that's going to go viral as fuck you know I already know about all that like I honestly would say
Starting point is 01:03:52 in terms of like Twitter I always know like well people will come to me like bro should I tweet this and I'll just be like because I know like any like if you show me any tweet I know the reaction to it where at least I know their reaction based on what part of Twitter would hit like certain shit could hit this side of Twitter, but this side of Twitter going to just destroy you if that ever hit they shit. But like for me, there's so many, I would probably say there's so many tweets. I've been like, bro, there's no chance I'm tweeting this. It's just sitting in my drafts. Like, if I tweeted it, I know it will go viral, but do I really want, like, I don't even read the replies, but it's like, you never know what's really going on down there, but I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Because like the most extreme version I could think of is like that Pearl girl who goes viral on Twitter all the time because she, you know, the white girl who always is talking about how women shouldn't be able to vote and shit. Yeah, I know what you know. I mean, she just says, like, the most fucked up shit you could possibly think. But all those Andrew Tate little fan girls or whatever the fuck, like, I don't know, like, how, like, do they really believe that? Like, a part of me is like, you got to somewhat believe that to say this shit. But a certain point, you're just, like, overdoing it because you know this shit's going to get interactions.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I think she's somebody who just literally saw the fact that the more misogynistic the shit you say, the more fucked up the shit you say is that. then the more viral it'll go. So that has led her in the direction of saying women shouldn't be able to vote and women shouldn't be taught to read or whatever. It's so funny because it's like, and now all her channels are demonetized. So she fucked, she fucked around and found out.
Starting point is 01:05:21 That's dumb as fuck. I'm not celebrating that, but damn, that's got to hurt. Because it's like, anyone that sees that, the first thing you're going to think is like, you're trying to impress men.
Starting point is 01:05:29 But it's also like, as men, like any normal one, I don't respect that. Like, why are you saying that? Like, I don't know. Like, if I was a naked ass,
Starting point is 01:05:36 said women shouldn't vote. I don't agree with that. But if I was thinking that I said and I saw that, I think I'll be like, I don't respect you for that. Like what? She's just stealing like, you don't want to vote. I mean, you shouldn't be able to vote and now you're agreeing with me. She's just stealing the Andrew Tate's sauce, making it like actually kind of more offensive or more blunt or less eloquent. Same thing that like, you know, the Kevin Samuel's wave that ended abruptly when he died and shit. It's like
Starting point is 01:06:00 to see in a white girl just decide that she was going to basically just co-opped all this shit is just like crazy as fuck. And then the fact that she just took it to such an extreme that she got her whole channel demonetized after just building a team having all these people. She's supposed to be paying and shit. It's just like that's why, you know, you should not take it to the furthest extreme on the internet. The more extreme you go, the more likely you are to get a fucking rude awakening. Yeah, like, I always say, like, that's really what's selling your soul is. Like, if you're doing that shit and you, especially if you don't agree, like, if she really agrees with that, it's different.
Starting point is 01:06:32 If she really believes everywhere she's saying, but obviously, like, she's not. But if she really believed what she was saying would be different, well, that's really what's selling your soul is. I kind of feel like she doesn't believe anything. I feel like she just doesn't even. Just a blank slate. Exactly. Fucking AI.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Yeah, she's just whatever's going to go viral. That's her opinion. What was it like when Kai was cooking you and shit? Did you take it personal? You talking about the boxing? Yeah. No, I actually thought it was funny because, bro, he paused at that direct moment.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And I remember what I was thinking at that moment. Like, I'm the type of niggum, when you hit me a lot, I'm going to get mad. Like, the more damage I take, the matter I get. So, like, after that little combo, whatever that he had hit on me. Bro, like,
Starting point is 01:07:07 if you saw the video, bro, I lost all my boxing composure. My hands wasn't up. My hands was flailing out. I just started running at the dude. I wasn't doing the boxing shit or nothing. No,
Starting point is 01:07:16 I just fucking started swinging at the dude. He paused it and he was like, oh, this nigga ugly as fuck, blah, blah, blah. That shit's funny to me. Because by the time I saw it, I was already over it.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, I get over shit quick. Like, I already knew, okay, rematch confirmed. I'm gonna win that. So I was already over it. So that shit's just funny to me. Because I'm the type of nigga
Starting point is 01:07:34 to say that shit. I'm the type of person, like I'm not a hypocrite. I'm like, if I'm the type of nigger to say that, you can say it to me. And I wouldn't care personally. But it's just funny. I don't know. It's crazy because there's this concept of like the villain of the day on Twitter, you know, just the person who says. You don't want to be the villain.
Starting point is 01:07:51 You don't want to be the villain of the day. But in that case, it's kind of like everybody's just giving you a hard time fucking with you. It's like, you're not the villain. You just got to take the role of the clown. Yeah. You got to just let everybody laugh at you, let it get out of the system. Two days or a week, but. And compare it to like something real, like you catching a fucking assault charge or like,
Starting point is 01:08:09 you know, some kind of court case or like you get canceled for some real shit. It's like losing a fucking celebrity boxing match. It's not even like you got knocked out. Getting knocked out is embarrassing. And bro, and that's another thing. Let me just say this now. Everyone that like tries to make fun of me of it be like, didn't you get knocked out? No, bitch.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I knocked him out in the second follow. Like he actually got knocked out. So what are you talking about? But anyway, that's only time I'm going to get mad at that shit. I don't care no more. I already won, so I'm chilling now. Right. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Like, you do not want to be the villain of the day. You don't want to be the clown of the day unless it's actually going to, unless it's some shit that don't matter. I always say this. If you're going to get canceled or whatever the fuck is going on and everyone's on your head, if it doesn't matter, it's actually a positive. Like, if you're getting clown, like, for me, like, if I'm getting clowned because I lost a boxing match, I'm not a boxer.
Starting point is 01:08:57 You know what I'm saying? That's not my whole life. I didn't train for years to get to this point. I just trained for two months. I hopped in there. I got fucking like I lost and then that was it. From your perspective when you're sitting around trying to come up with a viral tweet, what is it actually like?
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like what do you like? Like my process. Are you just reading other people's tweets and then kind of trying to think of your own version of it? So nowadays it's because like I said, I have a lot going on in the background. So like it's kind of bro like Twitter when like during COVID it was just the best. Like no worries, no job, no fucking nothing bro. Like just just on Twitter all fucking day like it was just different.
Starting point is 01:09:32 But nowadays, actually, I'll just go through the process for both of them. So basically, when I first got on Twitter, well, when I first started using Twitter normally, like me and my boys was literally, like, we was on a quest to go viral. And it took fucking months to finally do it. But quotes back then actually did shit. So like I said, quotes do well now, but close back then did shit. So to actually get a viral tweets, but screenshots and all that other shit, it's really, when it comes to screenshots because. Like screenshots help you go viral?
Starting point is 01:09:59 The algorithm accounts for that? So, nowadays, okay, so back then it was screenshot. Like, people want a story. You see the screenshot? You swipe to the next one. Swipe to the next one. It's like, holy shit, that's funny as fuck. And the caption.
Starting point is 01:10:11 So with those, those are really my forte. That's my specialty. Sadly, because I don't scroll on the internet as much as I used to when I'm doing shit, like, when I'm just chilling at home, I do that shit all the time. So it's different. But, like, let's say I'm on the go, right? If I just see some funny-ass screenshots, that's my forte. I get the screenshots and I just cook up a caption.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Like, it's just so. easy. But in terms of word tweets, that just comes to me. I have so many drafts because, bro, with word tweets, so for me, like, I'm on account curated to go viral. I have so many tweets you don't see because I'm like, do I really want to go viral? And that's why with Elon Musk, I'm kind of like on the fence with them because I realize like back then, all these tweets that I drafted, if I had tweeted back then, it probably would have did well. And now that I'm here, I'm like, damn, like these word tweets, these just from scratch tweets can't tweet because I know it wouldn't go viral now
Starting point is 01:11:00 because you can't like experiment kind of you know what I mean like experiment So it's like especially you feel like that has been exaggerated by the fact that the 4U tab is how most people look at Twitter now So it's like viral tweets get a shitload of attention and like when I do go to like my following tab and look at it I see a lot of girls plugging their only fans that doesn't get any fucking engagement So I never see it on the 4U tab I see people saying like oh I'm going live on Twitter right now, which like that never goes viral. You know, all kinds of links. Like I was thinking about the other day.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I've been following the New York Times forever. And I don't think I see the New York Times links in the 4 UTAB because Elon hates them and because they, you know, it's just a link. It's not going to go viral, you know? Yeah, I mean, so, bro, I'll look on the following. I'll see niggas that I haven't seen for months. Because I really go on the following. Like, I'll go on the following if there's some live event.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Like, let's say it's boxing or like literally anything going on right now that everyone's watching and tweeting. I'll go on there because I can actually see real time. everybody's reaction. But I'm mainly on the for you page and bro, you really do miss a lot when you're just on the for you page. But for someone like me, because my account has always
Starting point is 01:12:07 been curated to go viral. Like back then, I used to just tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet, tweet because the album was different. So whatever went viral went viral and the other shit it was whatever. But nowadays, I literally, I'm just curated. Like, I just know what it'll go wild. Like, yep, it's the one tweet and that's it.
Starting point is 01:12:21 But back then it was just different, man. And especially with Elon's Twitter because, like, bro, tell me. me if this makes sense. Before Elon, even if somebody didn't go viral, they would get like a little 7K likes just on average. But now
Starting point is 01:12:36 those people that were just average ship, they weren't going viral but they had their little fall, like they're falling or even if they hit other people's timelines, they would get a couple thousand. Nowadays it's just like a couple hundred. Like it's like just on average, everything is lower now. Yeah. If that makes sense. So an account like mine is different because
Starting point is 01:12:53 since I'm curated to go viral and every time I tweet is just supposed to just be funny and go viral like the algorithm like just fucks with me so it always gets pushed unless it's like a promo or whatever the fuck i'll tweet i don't know it's just weird but it is weird too because sometimes you'll have something that you genuinely want to say but there's no viral way to say it yeah so i have a second of comfort that like it has like 20k so that's where i'll just do that shit just fuck around my followers but yeah i don't know like i so a good way to explain this though like with what i'm about to say is like in terms of twitter
Starting point is 01:13:27 But with everything I've ever done in my life, I feel like I'll get to the top and then like I'll find something new. Like, bro, like it'll be some dumb shit like fucking, like bro, I used to play Minecraft, right? So like I eventually got staff. I rose to fucking like head admin owner of the fucking server. And it was like once I got like got to that level, oh, bro, honestly a lot of weird shit happened where I had to stop. But basically I got to that level, then the next shit pops up where I'm going to start doing that. But basically that happened with Instagram and now it's happening with Twitter. Like everything I do, I just make sure I do the best and then I get to that level,
Starting point is 01:14:04 then I just upgrade to the next one. And I don't necessarily know what that's going to be. Like, who knows, it could be streaming. But basically, I've gone to that point on Twitter. You know what I'm saying? I did what I had to do. I've done a lot of shit that nobody else can say that I've done, especially through fucking Twitter.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Like, I've done a lot through this little insie mincy bit. So just remember, like, whatever I do, I feel like I'll raise to the top. And I just feel like whatever. It could be streaming. I feel like it's going to be streaming, but it really depends if I can figure out this IRL shit. Because this is a new territory. Same with the Twitter.
Starting point is 01:14:34 So all new territory. But I don't know. Like somebody up there fucks with me. I'm going to just, I'm going to do well, but it's kind of weird because there's this thing that happens where people online will get famous for doing one thing. Like you see this with a lot of like YouTube essayist channels and shit.
Starting point is 01:14:50 TikTok especially. Yeah, they get famous for a dance or they get famous for making videos about other YouTubers falling off or whatever. And then they get more and more comfortable And they start inserting more and more Of their personality into the discourse And a lot of times it's like you didn't get famous for your personality You got famous for talking about this
Starting point is 01:15:08 And making videos about this And so then those same people sometimes end up getting like a lot of blowback Like even somebody like Dream who was viral for just playing Minecraft And slowly starts putting himself out there more and more Showing his face and he's fucking crying on stage and shit And it's like the people maybe don't love you as much as they loved this fucking avatar that they had before when you were just playing this game and nobody knew what you looked like yeah so yeah I know what you're saying like
Starting point is 01:15:38 that transition from Twitter to streaming who knows what the not saying it's gonna happen to you I'm just saying it's kind of like that's the worry right it's like maybe I'm dope at this one thing creeping in the back of your mind or whatever but for me I don't like bro I've just always never worried about anything like it's crazy I've never worried about anything like it's crazy I've never worried about anything and it works. So that be happening with a lot of TikTokers, like they literally make one con they try and do some other shit.
Starting point is 01:16:03 They're completely out of the algorithm. Even if they try and go back to that, oh shit that was making them viral, they're done for. The followers aren't engaging. Nobody wants to fucking see that shit. So at the end of that day, could be rude, but you got to be blunt. Like, you just have to be good at what you do. Just be good. Like, whatever you're going to do,
Starting point is 01:16:20 make sure it's fucking good. Like, if it's fucking porn, whatever. You just have to be good. at making people talk about it to make all the horny niggas see it so they're gonna do they shit like that's how it works you have to be good at what you do whatever it fucking is just be good you know what I'm saying be the best at it definitely I mean the problem comes when you accomplish what you're going for and you kind of realize like well maybe this isn't exactly what I thought it was gonna be you ever feel like that like damn I have all these followers
Starting point is 01:16:46 this is what I thought was going to be the best thing in the world but now I got it and maybe it doesn't feel as good as you thought of it because I got suspended so many times all this like before I used to just be hanging on that threat of I'll get unsuspended and I'll just go on the craziest fucking Lil Wayne run and just this and that but I never got unsuspended so I always had to get it out the mud and then now that I'm hearing a million it's like for me it's just one step so I don't really feel like that it's just one step of a bigger plan like people always say this shit bro people will talk about though some shit will happen right I'll do some crazy shit just because I'm a Twitter user like let's say I'll meet a fucking rapper or whatever the fuck they'll be
Starting point is 01:17:25 like bro, sold his soul just to be a Twitter account. And then I'll literally be like, bro, this is just step two of a five-part plan. I'm revealing the five-part plan right now, but like one from Instagram, now we got Twitter. Like, we're only on the second part, like, relax. Like, I haven't done everything yet. Like, every accomplishment is just one step to where I'm trying to go. You know what I'm feeling? Yeah, like when you were talking about even like doing the face reveal or showing yourself to the world,
Starting point is 01:17:48 it's like I just felt like for you, like you look cool. Pause, no homo, all that shit. like, you know, with the hair and everything, like obviously you know how to dress and shit. I just feel like people would like you more based on the aesthetic that you have and would probably want to support you. And I think even with like this interview, I know you've done other interviews before, but I feel like probably a lot more people will see this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:10 And it's just kind of like, I don't know, I feel like the people would want to support you regardless. And also because you just seem kind of like low key, humble, not a dickhead, you know, people like all that. People that only see me on Twitter have this version of me like, no. Like everyone who knows me in real life, I'd just be chilling. And that's a funny thing, too. Like with the whole face reveal shit, when I first started face revealing, I didn't post that much. Like, it all started in like 20, 21. But before that, like, it would just be like a selfie here and there.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Because like, bro, my hair was still growing and all this other shit. And like I said, everything perfect timing, right? So when I actually started posting Fitpix, I had just started getting money. And like, I had just like started dyeing my hair, whatever the fuck it was. And obviously it worked because, like, as soon as I started posting more and more and more and more and more and more people know what I look like Like they was fucking with me even more But what's the the amount of bitches swimming up in your DMs look like for a famous Twitter page
Starting point is 01:19:07 So listen right You have way more bitches the lower followers you have I swear to God I had all the holes when I had 10k followers Now that I have a million and like I guess who knows it's maybe it's because I'm a dreadhead Whatever the fuck it is Bitches things you have a million followers you're a dreadhead you know how to blah blah blah you have bitches so they just dismiss me like if I like I basically I would have to shoot first but I don't like to DM bitches on Twitter because this happens so many times they screenshot you out yeah like I only like talking to Instagram girls or TikTok girls anyone that's not
Starting point is 01:19:39 Twitter because everybody knows who I am on Twitter if you screenshot me I don't know who the fuck is seeing me right now and they know who I am like it's just weird if you're going to be a single dude you just kind of have to accept that you're going to get screenshot it sometimes because I would feel the same exact way if I was single right now I would be DM in every fucking hot girl and I already know some of them bitches are going to expose me and it makes you look thirsty as fuck even though it's like nah I was really gonna go buy you a steak
Starting point is 01:20:02 dinner girl like what are you too much trying to expose me it's just worse the more I guess famous you are like the thing with Twitter is like who fucking knows like you can literally post some screenshots and it will just go viral that's the problem with Twitter like you could be doing whatever the fuck you're doing on Instagram yeah I can still go
Starting point is 01:20:18 viral but it's just like Twitter is just different like let's say I don't do no weird shit like because I literally I just don't even talk that much. I don't talk that much in DMs or nothing. So there's nothing like that you could, anyone could ever have on me. But it's like,
Starting point is 01:20:31 let's say I was doing some weird shit and they screenshot that. It's just a percentage of it going viral. And the fact that all these people know me is just boosted up. So like, I literally just be, I don't even have to try to be like not weird, but it's just like, I'm just never going to be in some weird ass situation like that.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I just never be in any situation where I could get cooked. Like if they're going to screenshot me like saying, we owe a sub or blah, blah, blah, or getting their number. Like, head it's not going to go viral like they're probably gonna cook you because why you screenshot in that you weird right but as soon as the world starts to turn against you and they feel like they want to expose you that's when all of a sudden like even just even the littlest dunks seem powerful at a certain point
Starting point is 01:21:08 to people they literally bro people have files on you whoever the fuck are like bro they're waiting for the perfect time to bring it out i promise you oh yeah but yeah like back's what i was saying i'm telling you when i i had all the whole some i was 10k and right now i'd be joking but i literally say I'm washed. When it comes to bad bitch, I'm washed. Like, I'm washed. I felt like that might take you to the next level if you had a young Miami or whatever in your life. Oh yeah, for sure. I've been thinking about like, should I get a girlfriend? Like, I've actually never been in a real relationship and I've never been in love. And then I got to that certain point when I was like, even when I started fucking with a bitch, I realized I wasn't on my A game. Like, when you cuddling with a bitch,
Starting point is 01:21:50 you're not making no money. You don't make money when you're cuddling. Like, It just started annoying me like, damn, like I really don't want to go. Like I like it, but I also have to find a way to, like, I always say like I have to just get disciplined to have a girlfriend because I can't get distracted with what I'm doing until I actually make it. So I can't have a girlfriend right now, but I be thinking about the business aspect. Like, you know what I'm saying? See, this is how you know you've really lost your mind is that you think about love and like having a girlfriend and your mind goes straight to like, well, will it be viral? And I am sick like you because my mind thinks like this to a certain. But I mean,
Starting point is 01:22:26 But my thing is like, if I was to do that, I would obviously let the girl know. Like, I'm using you. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's probably going to be mutual. Like, yeah. But people know that. And they're down with it now, too. You could literally hit up a girl and just be like, hey, do you want to like get together
Starting point is 01:22:40 and do some skits or like, you know, collaborate or even just fuck around and troll the internet. Like, people hang out all the time and do that shit. Yeah. I actually kind of resent the fact that I didn't really get a chance to do that because I got in a relationship before it became normal to do that. Like, I would have burnt. myself out so bad dating all kinds of different chicks and having all this weird messy drama and I
Starting point is 01:22:59 probably would have loved it like look at blue face blue face was only able to reach a certain level as a rapper and then all of a sudden he has multiple viral baby mamas and he's at a completely different level with TV shows and all that shit crazy because like to the average person because I'm not calling them dumb or NPCs or anything like that is but it's just like they take it at face value anything that like blue face does but then you have like anybody with a like business brain or however you want to say it. You're looking at this shit like, bro, this nigga Blueface so fucking smart. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Right. Or his team smart. I don't know who the fuck the master brain behind it. But like, bro, Chrison, you remember that fucking bunkbed little fucking camp or whatever the hell they had going on? Because I met her at the very beginning. Like, they had only been doing it for a few days and we went. We did a vlog at the Blueface Mansion.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And I meet her right away. And I just say like, oh shit, you really are missing a tooth. And she's just like, I will beat the fuck. Like she threatened me right away. You know what's crazy? And I had no idea. So shout out the blue face because I had no clue
Starting point is 01:23:58 she was going to become huge. And now I'm thirsty as fuck to get her on the podcast. Oh, for real? Well, you know, it's weird. I actually saw Chrison yesterday at the mall. She's outside. She ain't fucking around.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Yeah, and also, you know what I'm saying? She has a kid and all that. And he got to be... Captured the kid last night at 4 in the morning. Bro. You see that? Boy, that's why it's so insane to me. Like, I literally just saw her yesterday.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And now this is happening. What the fuck going on, bro? It's hard to comprehend. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's crazy too. It's like I sat here and had a whole conversation with Jaden and Blufez as if they were the greatest couple ever and they're going to be together forever.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And then they came to my birthday party and they performed a shit. And then you fast forward like two weeks and she's chilling with Creshaun Rock kicking it talking hell of shit about him. Like I'm like how the fuck did that just happen that fast? Wait, so because I didn't even get to like I only got to see a couple bits of it. Wait, so did Jaden and Creshawn link up after he took the baby? Yes. The middle of the day today, they're hanging out on Instagram live, drinking, getting fucked up,
Starting point is 01:24:56 facetiming him, talking to him with 100,000 people on Instagram live, just watching them getting drunk and talking shit. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Because you feel like you know these people. And then their whole lives are just changing so much while your life kind of stays the same. It's fucking crazy. I don't know, man. Like, Blueface better watch out, I guess, because why the fuck your baby mama's teaming up against you, bro? But if I was you, even if I didn't, you know, naturally get into a real relationship, I would for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:22 be finding some sort of clout relationship to just fuck with the people and take weird fucking family photos together and shit like i already started kind of doing that like i remember like when i went to new york i kind of i didn't do it but other people kind of did it for me so it got me to thinking like i can really do this shit just give me a little bit yeah like just give me a little bit that's why it's perfect like i literally just move so everything that people are about to see from here on out is like me at just 100% because you're kind of you're kind of nerfed when you with your parents when you with your family like a whole family's at the crib like but now I'm with my boy like shout out bliss like this is my shit right here so this is your crew or what so bliss so bliss
Starting point is 01:26:03 is a movement right you know what I'm saying you just bliss and blessed like you're bliss and blissful okay it is what it is so I'm with my boy shout out rug rats so we moved in together and it's really on some business shit. Like we all fuck with each other and we just go so well, but we're there to make money. So I have my brand about a drop and they, two of the people there, they already have brands. So they already do that shit.
Starting point is 01:26:26 You have one nigga on the side. This nigga is a fucking like computer genius nigga. And you have, we have more people still coming in and shit. But like this is just the start or whatever, but I'm about to drop this. And it's really, like it's starting off as a clothing brand, but you're going to see in the next couple years.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Like shout out Dremel. He's all like my right hand man for this shit. And then. So who do you look up to? Like, do you look at somebody who's, like, made it through streaming, like, Kai? Or do you look at somebody who's made it through, like, fashion and shit? Or how do you kind of, like, what would your ideal route to blowing up? So I look up to Mariah Carey.
Starting point is 01:26:57 That's my number one inspiration, bro. Think about it. Yo, every year she goes number, every year she makes a bag, bro. Yeah. Like, she found them infinite money. Like, I literally aspire to be that. Like, every year, without having to pick up a finger. Like, holy shit, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I don't even want to talk. about that too much because I'm just going to get into one overwhelmed but Mariah Kerry you are my number one inspiration I love you yeah no that is the best when you can create something that will just work for a long time like like it's one thing to do a stream I've done a million streams where we talk about the news we talk about
Starting point is 01:27:32 fucking whatever but the feeling when I do an interview with somebody like Kai or X or whoever like that Kai interviews like six million views and it didn't have that many when I dropped it it's just like over time just that interview from super early in his career Yeah. Just having people still keep going back to that. I don't know. It's like a special feeling content-wise.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Is that why when you discover someone special early? Yeah. And just having like the definitive interview of anybody early on is like the best fucking feeling. So I'm always kind of trying to go to that. Like if you end up being as big as Kai someday, this will be just such a fire part of my collection of interviews just because it's like a really raw moment where maybe you don't even 100% know what you're going to end up being in the future, you know? I'm saying, yeah. It's honestly kind of scary. Like I said, I'll never worry about anything,
Starting point is 01:28:18 but it's also kind of scary because who fucking knows, like, just like what, because, like, do you have, like, an ideal version of yourself, like, what you want to be? Or, like, at least when you're younger. Like, you know what I mean? It's a weird thing about it is that you just keep doing little things and then certain things work. And then you keep pursuing those.
Starting point is 01:28:37 But then you kind of zoom out and you're not like, oh, holy shit. Like, my life is this one specific thing. And it doesn't really feel like I didn't know it was going to end up that way. I've just been like throwing pain at the wall and just trying to make something work for all these years, you know? Yeah. So it's like it's scary to me like it's not scary on nothing bad. It's scary to me how like whatever I end up being like I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Like I don't have the complete image yet. Like I don't I can't really see it yet. But to me it's like it's scary, but it's exciting. It's an exciting feeling because who fucking knows what's going to happen. Like every day I wake up, I'm just excited because, bro, despite the crazy shit about this world going on, like, to me, it's honestly fucked up. Like, it's kind of a game to me. Like, I don't know. It's just like playing this game.
Starting point is 01:29:26 But it's still real life. But that's what makes it the game to me. Like, it's real life. I kind of constantly have that feeling of like, wow, the world is incredibly fucked up right now. But at least I'm doing a pretty good job of, like, managing to do my thing in this incredibly fucked up world. You're going to hell, bro. You're going to hell, bro. Yeah, and not even in the porn stuff, but just in general, like, just the shit that goes viral, it's like, you're just kind of constantly playing the game and just trying to, like, keep it going.
Starting point is 01:29:53 But at a certain point, too, it would be nice to, like, really zoom out. I mean, that took a month off. Bro, I've been thinking about doing that, bro, because I have never taken more than, like, a day or two break from my phone. I want to just, like, but even when I didn't go on my phone, it was just more like I wasn't on the inner. Like, I might have still been watching YouTube and just zoned out on that. It's like I want to just not have a phone, no text, no nothing, just literally me and my thoughts, maybe friends or girlfriend, whatever the fuck. I just want to not have my phone for like a week or something, like a week vacation. I want to, because, like, bro, like I said, I have internet brain, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:27 And that's why I say for this next generation, watch out for those niggas. Because if this is how I feel and thinking shit, I just don't know what's going on going on with them. Like I have never been without my phone and like or any device or anything. It's kind of crazy to think about, like, do I really even know who I am? I mean, I do. But it's just like, without this phone, let me like, do I really know who I am? Right before I started doing these interviews and shit back in like 20, I think it's 2013 or something, I went to Barcelona for a month. And back then, internet shit was still way prehistoric in fucking Europe and shit.
Starting point is 01:31:03 So basically, like, I would go out riding bikes with my friends all day and my phone would not be connected to the internet. I had infinite time to just think about exactly. what I wanted to fucking do with my life. And I get back after that. And I basically like start doing podcasts and start doing all this shit that basically takes me in the direction of everything. That was like. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Because it just gave me so much time to like really be able to see my life with a with a zoomed out view and just be like, okay, this is how far you've gotten in your life up to this point. But if you really want to be successful, you need to like change course. You need to think about shit differently. And that like just having that space. Like yeah. I constantly have this thought lately of my whole life. is divided up into making content and consuming content. I get home from talking to people all day and what do I do in the car?
Starting point is 01:31:49 I fucking listen to a podcast and what do I do when I have an hour or two before bed? I sit on the couch and I watch YouTube videos. And it feels like life is like everything else besides those two things. And a lot of times, especially when I go to other cities and I'm traveling and stuff and I'm just, like the last time I was in New York, just walking around with the homies, just chilling in public and smoking and fucking eating random slices of pizza. and shit. I'm just like, this just feels like way more of a life than what I do typically. And I love what I do,
Starting point is 01:32:18 but it's sometimes kind of frustrating because it's just, it's just so like either making shit or consuming shit. Yeah, I definitely feel that like just you're literally either making some shit or you're just watching. You're just watching other people say things,
Starting point is 01:32:34 do things, type things. And it's like, especially with the internet, because I honestly been not doing, I mean, I haven't really been like on YouTube that much lately I've been actually I came back to it just because like every time I'm about to do something I have to get back on that I'm planning on doing YouTube
Starting point is 01:32:50 and shit I used to do YouTube when I was a kid but like I remember when I was a kid bro you know what's crazy when I was a kid I wanted to be a pop singer who were you looking at that you're inspired by Michael Jackson obviously that's what a lot of people have been saying to me lately that's interesting like
Starting point is 01:33:06 you know Michael Jack bro I wanted to be a pop star and it's like I was writing lyrics and all this other shit And then even my mom, like, even she encouraged that. Like, obviously she would have still wanted me to do, like, the college and shit or whatever, but she was definitely, like, rallying behind me and blah, blah, blah. And it's so funny, like, when I started this shit, like, and I'm making all this bread and shit, it's like she can't wrap her mind around it. And I'm just like, yo, mom, like, trust me, just let me have a couple. Like, it's not even that long, like, like, two years.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Let me just do this shit. Just watch what happens. So, like, that's really where I'm at. right now. And honestly, at the end of the day, nobody ever really knows what's going to happen. But like, I don't know. That's why I say, like, this shit is really like a game, bro. How old are you? So I turned 21 this year. So you have so much fucking time to figure it out. Like, when I was 21, but by the time I was like 23, I already felt like, holy shit, I'm old. I'm washed. Like, shit is slowing down. It's over, whatever. Now I'm 40 and I'm like, oh, hell
Starting point is 01:34:07 yeah, I got probably like 30 or 40 years before I'm dead. That's pretty decent, you know? Like, 21 is so fucking young that you just have the world in front of you. But I would advise you to, like, definitely try to take more time away from your phone to travel and just go. And, like, you need to just, like, fly to Europe with a couple of homies and just travel around for a week or two. When I say I haven't been on Twitter that much, it's because when I'm doing life shit, I just don't, like, I really want to be in the moment nowadays. But that's also why I'm also thinking about that IRL streaming shit because it doesn't have to be no neon shit. I could literally stream my real life because my real life is lit. I could stream my real life doing real shit and it was kind of be the same.
Starting point is 01:34:47 But also it is, it does kind of like ruin it in a way. Because a lot of people who are IRS streaming and this is them, they're just looking at the chat. All the time just looking for some kind of feedback to make them feel like they have some kind of motivation or just anything. And it's like, not for real though. The IRS streaming shit is dope. It's just don't let it consume you. I know so many people who do it like every day. And it's just like, this is like the least healthy thing.
Starting point is 01:35:09 I can fucking imagine. Yeah, I just like to test things out. And like I said, I don't like doing shit I don't want to do. Like, if I was doing an IRS stream and let's say it became the most popular show, like let's say I became the number one streamer off that shit. If I felt like I didn't want to do it, I'm falling the fuck off because I'm not doing the shit if I don't want to do it. Like with Twitter, it's not like I don't want to do it, but it's just like it's not the same. Like the shit that I...
Starting point is 01:35:32 You're playing a game. Yeah, like what I was feeling when I first started blowing up, but I remember I'll go to sleep at 5 a.m. I'm waking up at 9 a.m. Like at this point, I hadn't done no drugs or anything, right? So it's just like, I'm going to sleep at 5 a.m., 9 a.m. And I wake up at 9 a.m. Because when I wake up at 9 a.m., life is exciting.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Like, let's go on my way. Let's see what the fuck happens today. But then whenever I was, like, going through anything bad or whatever, like, I would just go to sleep and just be asleep and just be asleep because my body just doesn't even want to be here type shit. Like, that's what life is. Like, I got to just be excited to be here. Yeah. I have a theory about Twitter, which is that that first 20 or 30 minutes, of you looking at Twitter for the day, it's fucking great because you don't know what's going on
Starting point is 01:36:13 in the world and you're just finding out about all this crazy viral shit that happened over the night or whatever. And then after a certain point, like the other day I was on set on the reality show thing for like, you know, I'm just sitting around for like 14 fucking hours. So I probably stared at Twitter for like six hours out of that day. And by the end of that day, I was enjoying Twitter so little because it's like you've seen everything. It was like the day that fucking Israel bombed this hot.
Starting point is 01:36:39 hospital and people went from thinking it was Israel. No, Israel didn't bomb it, but everybody thought they did. And then they find out that it was just this explosion. And it's like just, it just becomes a miserable place when you're looking at it for too long. But that initial burst of just like, holy shit, I'm going to find out exactly what's going on in the world right now is like the best feeling. Yeah, it's like, bro, it's like, bro. What was I even going to say, bro? Like, it's just two ways to look at it, bro. You'll see the best of people and you'll see the worst of people. Like some days you'll leave Twitter like, that was cool. And then other days you'd be like, bro, people are so fucking dumb.
Starting point is 01:37:12 I do not like this world. Like, you guys are just too dumb. But honestly, I don't really, like, the thing that honestly kept me glued to Twitter at first, too, is just, I would be on Twitter. I'd be on group chats. So, like, I'm meeting all these new people and, like-minded people. That's definitely what kept me on. And then you feel like you really have your community on that. And then when, like, eventually, because, like, when that was the peak of that was, like, COVID.
Starting point is 01:37:36 Everyone was in the crib. but after that like actually linking up with people bro like it's actually in the same feeling like it's just crazy I don't know just finding like minded people yeah because like growing up bro like I ain't really like I had friends bro I would always have a best friend but it wasn't until like high school that I had a group of friends but you know how that what goes on with groups of friends like and also like I had that little program up so I wasn't with the same group of friends no more and especially when you're young everybody goes to college and your whole friend group just gets disintegrated from as soon as you leave high school, you got to start figuring out, like, oh, what fucking tribe do I actually fit in with?
Starting point is 01:38:11 I'm saying, like, it's just, I don't know, but it's like doing this Twitter shit. That's why I say, like, it's just all new. I'm just navigating it. And, like, all these like-minded people, whether it's like-minded in terms of whether they're also going viral or whatever the fuck, or just like-minded in terms of, like, they see the potential in the app or whatever. But, like, for me, it's just funny because I'm really here on accident, like, in terms of blowing up on Twitter. Like, it was, but at the same time, when I first started. started on Instagram, like, that's what first, like, kick me off or whatever. Twitter was all, like, that was the shit I always used.
Starting point is 01:38:42 So it was like, it was always there, but it was also an accident. It's weird. Yeah, it is crazy. But I bet you would have figured out how to blow up on some platform. If it wasn't Twitter, I bet you would have figured out TikTok or fucking Instagram or whatever, you know? I still feel like I'm going to figure it out, like, telling you, man, I'm on a fucking mission.
Starting point is 01:38:58 It is crazy that how many people I know who basically started their career by being a fan page or, like a fan account. Oh, yeah. Like, I have a dude who works for me now. who just literally was watching No Jumper podcast and clipping it and had an account called like No Jumper the best of No Jumper or some shit and he's just uploading clips and then all of a sudden The internet is amazing bro like there's so many opportunities like there's just so much money to be made in the world bro like ah if i start talking about that i'm gonna ramble forever like i swear bro that's true there's too much money to be made on this fucking shit i do have one more interview i got to do before the end of the night but this was a fucking awesome
Starting point is 01:39:36 conversation and I have a huge amount of faith in you I think you're gonna be ridiculously huge in the future appreciate it man I enjoyed this shit like hey man I know y'all be cooking him but bro like past the internet that shit you guys got to remember real life is real life bro and I fuck with you I appreciate it man yeah well your first real sit down with the cuck master is officially complete you survived for show game but can you get can you get rid of this shit like this should be like bothering me well I got a girl coming in next too so I don't know if she's going to get all out of pocket when she sees this thing. So yeah, I'm going to hide it.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Shout out to Jason Lee. Shout out to Jason Love. Shout out to corn. Which is, that's what we call porn, which is kind of awkward, right? Yeah, bro. I'm telling you, going to see me. It's going to be Kornski. If you talk about porn on TikTok, you got to call it Korn.
Starting point is 01:40:21 But meanwhile, you actually are corn. Yeah, I don't want that fucking, like, when people Google me, if I stay corn, it's going to always be the food and it's always going to be, like, porn and shit. So, like, I've always, like, it's crazy. It's all accent. But you're going to probably know me as corn ski. Oh, you're in that transition? Like, I already, it's kind of like, yeah, it's kind of like the full name already, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:40:42 I haven't really changed to that, but yeah, Kornski. Okay. Remember that. That is good. I like that. Yeah, being Googlable is very important. Like, when I was trying to find information about you for this, I had to ask you straight up, like, can you just send me anything that you've had on YouTube or whatever?
Starting point is 01:40:55 Because I don't know how the fuck I'm going to find out. Well, I must drop any link I could find like, bro, there's just not enough video content. Yeah. Video wise. Definitely. All right. Fuck with my main corn. We'll link to the shit in the description.
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