No Jumper - Crip Mac & His Mom's First Interview! Gangbanging, Parenting & Prison Time

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

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Oh, this is legendary. No jumper, coolest podcast. The niftiest podcast in the world. In the whole world. Sorry. And my man, Crip Mac, I have finally gotten him on the podcast with Mama Bear. What's up? What's up?

Mama Bear. His beautiful mother. Yes, yes. Yes, she's here. Oh, yeah. I like how she's always grooming you. Yeah, she makes sure they're real nifty and real clean. Well, I got a little makeup on his shirt giving him that big bear hug.

It's all right. Oh, man. I'm like, that's a gritty bear hug. Mama bear gave a bear hug. Yes, she did. That's how I do it. She is very bear-like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wow, I can't believe you. So you guys have never actually done a podcast together. No, no, no, I've always been in jail, so now we have. We all know. It's crazy. I can't believe it. Just looking at you two together and realizing that you came from an actual person. I'm a person.

I'm a person. Yes, yes. I think a lot of us imagine you. just like vaporizing into existence in Baby Snaps Alley. Like you just formed. Oh, we love Baby Snaps, Alley. Baby Snap, shout out. Let's go back to the beginning.

What was this kid like as a baby? That's what we got. You guys think he's over the top now. When he was a child, he was just the same energy, but just in so many directions. He would constantly try to invent things from small things to create bigger. you know, complex. His brain is just out there. It's so magnificent.

Really? Right. So he would create things out of... Like Lego toy. Yeah, I mean, he was just, you know, always... We loved kittens. When I was a baby, we came home, there's a kitten there already there when I was a baby. You still got a lot of joy from kittens, don't you that?

Oh, I got Mr. Snorne's and Mr. Carfield. Two snorings, Kitty Whitty. Right. Beautiful cats. Yeah. Our cat, Ginger was snorn. She caught AIDS. Oh, yeah, he did.

When I was. He got around. I was about about 10. About 7? I don't know. About 7. How old are we now? Well, I know I'm going on 54.

Almost 55. Whoa. Okay, so we had to go down that path because you just say that. Well, that is a big year for you from his perspective. Most definitely. Right. It's going to be a big year. We had a cat named Ginger.

He caught AIDS. Yeah. Ginger got around. All the other cats in the... Orange cat with AIDS. Yes. Wow. He was groovy.

I don't know about that. Ah! He was mischievous. He was mischievous. Reminds me a too- Anyway, okay. So, okay. Let me answer you this though.

Okay. Where were you at mentally? What were the circumstances under which you even decided to conceive a child that ended up being C-Mack the Great? Well, shout out to Mr. Shibundi. The real Cribin-Bun-Bad. Okay. We'll tap on the other person. We call him Mr. Subun-Bun-Bun.

We were. Well, because he was doing zesty activities, right? No, not at all. That was another boyfriend. No. Oh, that's Mr. Gary. Yeah, Mr. Gary. No, his real father I went to high school with and we conceived and one fateful night and we had C-MAC.

Okay. Yeah. Just one faithful night. Was this a person you were in a long-term relationship? Yeah, we were together for about six years. Okay. Right. And would you say that there was a.

any like like like i guess i'm just trying to draw a connection between what an extreme individual he ended up being and no idea his conception like what was there like an earthquake in the middle of the conception or like a it was powerful i think it was in a van again i think i i can't believe i just said that a van i was what's a van again that's a hotel no that's an actual van oh a van oh okay oh a van yeah grimack was conceived in a van oh that's great Were you playing Snoop Doggy Dog? You know we were. Wow.

Shout out to Bundy. Al Bundy. Yeah. Okay, but so, but nothing like stood out. Like you didn't know what a special individual he was going to be until there. Like when did you realize that this was a really truly unique person that goes beyond almost anyone else who's ever lived? I noticed a lot of his changes when he was in elementary school. He was told to have oppositional defiance.

which means he does the opposite of what he's told. I could see that. Yeah, and he still has that. It's more controlled now, but, you know, as an adult, he can address it. Oh, yes, standard. Yeah, I'm a nifty boy. So I dealt with a lot of behavioral issues. You said did.

Yeah, but he would always be creating music. He would be just, he had a knack for rapping and being an entertainer. He would entertain the family. When anybody comes over, I mean, he was front of, I remember, Will & Black, man, I remember. Will & Black? Will and Smith? What, you just like watching it or did you dress up?

No, men, men, men, Black, Will Smith, I always wanted to do how Will Smith had his movies. I always wanted to do that. Wanted to be an entertainer. Men in Black was my favorite as a kid. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I like that.

That and the Rock. Oh, the Samoan Rock. Yeah, you would play with those damn dolls. He had your clothes. Elaine Johnson, great man. Great American. Yeah, Great American. Yeah, Great American.

Right. I mean, does it bother you that there's a lot of rumors that Will Smith is a booty goon himself? Oh, no. Booty Coon. Whoa. What's the piece of shit? Let's see Mac is saying that we don't agree quite with it 100%.

No, we don't. Well, okay, it's not 100% confirmed, but just in case, yeah. No. For real? Yeah. That's how he feels about it. We'll never watch men in black again. No, we're not going to watch it ever again.

How do you feel about gay people? Oh, I have no problem with it. I was actually in a relationship before. Yeah, she was fucking a big old white man. No, I am familiar with the lifestyle. Yeah, I had a... Do you think that you could be happy with a woman long term? Are you more of a man fan?

I think I'm trying to get myself together before I decide either way, trying to be a good, good person and attract the right person. So I'm open to love who I love, you know, and if it's a dude, then it's a dude. And vice versa. So, yeah, I don't discriminate. Remember it's Adam and Eve. Not even ever. or Adam and Steve.

And we can agree to disagree, but we're always going to be respectful, right? Five each his own, say it. Five each his own. Five times, say it. Five times, say it. Five each his own. Five each zone.

Five each zone. One more, nigger. All right. Five each zone. That's right. Was the idea of your mom being in a relationship with a woman, what does that do to your brain? Does that?

Well, I mean, she loved a woman at a time. It lasts about a year. But if she was in a long-term relationship with a woman, would that bother you? Or does that feel part of it? I'd rather her with a man. Not like a man like Mr. Gary. No, Mr. Gary. I think that, yeah, that's soured him on the whole homosexuality thing.

It's nothing personal to the gay community. He just had an interaction that he walked in on something. Well, I did. And he said, ah, my eyes. You walking on him getting it in with a man? Well, I walked in from the library, and my bear was on her. Swait home from work. She was doing her waitress work in Texas when I was a teenager.

Oh, that's right. Hospitality is what I love. Mr. Gary was screaming by his life. It was growing. It was loud. Getting banged by a guy. Counted his asshole. He was screaming.

I'm sorry, Mr. Gary. Oh, Mr. Gary. What was that? Mr. Gary's was saying you're fucking motherf-fucking. I get your shit together. We're packing up. We're leaving. And we left.

Remember, Granny Bear wired me some money. We were able to get a place. Right. Grandi Bear was doing her thing. Shout out, Granny Bear. She's a little bit. And we got the hill out of there. Pretty much.

Well, I got a divorce. It was. It was. I divorced someone. That was an embarrassment of her life. Yes, but it's part of my story. Come back to Calified me. She came back out here.

There's too much gay shit going on in Texas. Ironically, it was a man. It was a man she loved. Yes. You come home and then this is what you're joining. You're telling us you're going to come home late to your library. You know, leave me at the library. Mr. Gary was not who I thought he was.

He wasn't who I thought of it. Early to do this. To just see the love of your life getting piped out by. I do wish him the best, though, Mr. Gary. Mr. Gary was a black man? No, he's an old white man. He was a former cop. Really?

Yeah. In Texas, I'm not going to get to be a stiff. He was an officer getting his asshole bounded. The irony. The irony. So. I don't know. Up duty.

How do you feel being around your mom? Does it make you feel like a little bit more free? Do you feel like a... Mama bear? We get along real well, Mama Bear, you know? Yes. We do. I want to shout out Juicy Drina and Kalani Bear. The other mother's out there, yeah. Yeah, shout out. Juicy Dr. And also in the past, I want to shout out Keisha. My ex. She helped me with a lot of... Shout out Marquisha. Yes, her kids. Yes. Right. Those are good people that were in your life. Most definitely they are. But be a reason.

Your mom is going to be crazy because, like, part of your brain just goes back to like, I'm I grew inside your belly. I lived feeding off of your boule. How did this happen? Yes. That's what you're saying. Mama bear has a path to ride motorcycles too. She's done with life.

My path is the gangbanger. I get a death penalty. And that's something that we understand. It's dangerous both ways. Oh, no, I mean. No, he's reshuffling his thoughts. Trust me, I know that's silent. How does that feel, though, to hear your son.

something like because my path in life is to gang bang until I got a life sentence. What is that? Because I know that's not what I know is going to come to pass. That's not the behavior he's demonstrating now. That may be something that, you know, he puts out the universe, but it's not what he's going to do to completion. Is this one of life? No, I definitely. I take care of granny bear.

I'm fucking serious. I definitely am understanding. When the job can't get done, my sex can't destroy. He's going to get it done. He's come a long way now. If you can just look at it from the first interviews, just take it that way. That's what I'm trying to say.

No mother wants to know that their son is going to actually be aiming for the death penalty. That means you've done enough. You've done enough. That's what he decided. Shut up King five fingers. Break King five fingers to general. Give it every enemy are certified. Bray ball.

Get cracking this. You make King five fingers. I love him. He's a good man. He's a great father. That's who you always. Fees a hefty father like King five fingers. Okay.

Took care of my baby from the joint. Yeah. Wait, okay. I'm going to be real with you. There's a part of me the thought that getting you with your mom on camera that maybe I was going to get like the soft. Tone it down. I don't care. I'm going to stay higher.

Yeah. You seem like more of a madman. Hey, it is. Love it. Can't get enough of it. It's not your imagination. He's over the top. But this is who he is.

This is who people love. And Mama Bear loves motorcycle. And I love motorcycles and, you know, making a difference. The homeless. That's what I was going to say making a difference in the community. We were doing that when you were younger. Yes, we were when I was a baby. Yeah.

I would donate the rock toy. The rock toy. That was the best toy I loved. And that's the one that he would give. So that showed his selflessness then. I knew mama bear. She would work as a waitress and give me another rock toy. But she'd make me donate my toys.

Right. You know. Right. That's a kid. Right. You know. That happens. Yeah.

Crystal. Um, okay. So let me ask you this. Do you raise him. with religion in the home? There was. There's Christianity all around. Granny bear's a Cripsian.

That's what I was going to say. A shadow sister, Hargrove. When religion comes up, that is the first thing he says. Granny bear was a Cripmus, a Cripsian. Yeah, so he does have an awareness

of God, Jesus, higher power. But he never really latched on to it. He's made it pretty clear that he's not a believer. But that he has his own relationship. You have your own relationship with your God and that's fine with me. Something's keeping up safe out there, Adam. Let's keep it real.

Most generally. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's not an option. Yeah. Security. Son. You only have one life.

Miss Carfield and Mr. Snorns and Mr. Snorns have nine lives. Okay. Fascinating. Bring it back. You see us? You're trying to bring back to reality there? Focus.

We got this. Ice got all right. She's still out of Mama Bears' refrigerator. I thought you weren't drinking, at least on camera. anymore. Well, you can have a cold beard now. I've been a nifty boy. I've been a nifty boy taking care of citizens. I can travel now. I can have an ice coat on English. But that is, okay, but you don't think that that might be starting you off on a path towards destruction. I do destruction without it. I was going to, okay. A lot of people think of destruction is a bad thing. That beer is going to shake its way off.

Second-handed embarrassment. It's just ice cold. What's the definition of that? It's just ice cold. You know, Yeah, it's ice cold, but I feel like you would drink it even if it was warm. Oh, he has. It tastes like piss. He has, though. Imagine that thing. You better never drink it. That's been there five months.

Three years. Oh, shit, that was gone. You better than drinking it. That's a long time. That's a long time. Yeah. You give it to milk. He could drink it.

He's probably not coming here. Oh, no. Why? We just have never done, we haven't done content since that first time, which was actually like right before I met you. Is he still hanging on the couch? Honestly, I think he films his videos in the car from what I've seen now. Oh, he's a homeless.

Well, there's different ways to do it. He's homeless. He's homeless. She would feed milk. He's homeless. I think I'm very kind and giving. Do you know who we're talking about when we bring up milk? Milk 74?

One of his many ops. Oh, yeah. No, I wouldn't consider him that. This guy, he's comical, though. He's just a tube-wooby. There's nothing wrong with him. That's all right. Five-Beech's own.

That's fine. Five-Feechish-zone. That's fine. Okay. So when did the behavioral issues start to kick in? Oh, the schizophrenia. Oh, right before. Does anything get in trouble at school, even before the diagnosis? That's what I knew.

Talking doctors. Yeah, military school. Military school must have been when he was, what, like 16 or something? No, no, no. No, no. Yeah, he was eight. Eight. Seven and eight. And he lasted about a year. And they got to the point. I mean, they were doing great stuff. Scholastics. They were doing PT. They were doing drills.

But he just wasn't latching on. He had other things that he was. was preoccupied with doing. And we didn't know that his mental illness, of course, had, you know, taken over that. At eight, what was he preoccupied doing? What was he preoccupied doing? Here in Voyage. Man, just destruction. Just fighting and stuff.

Just all of it. Fighting. Just fighting anyone and anything that stands in his way of, you know, getting what he needs. Okay. So, you know, but always a good person. No, you weren't bad. We had the military school and we lasted. We went to me and her.

We flew to Texas when I was 14 years old. And we met Mr. Gary. Mr. Gary was a great guy. Mama Bear met him online. Yeah, it was online. Should I say that or no? No, that's fine. She met him on online dating.

Plenty of fish? I don't know. I'm very transparent. I don't know. I just wondering what website. What was it? I think it was match. Match.

It was a match. Black planet? That would be fire if that's right. He lives out. If you were a black planet baby, I'd be laughing my eyes on. That would be crazy. Yeah. But we would go places like the library, the botanical gardens and museums. He was very cultural. The zoo, we went all types of different places, you know. So you love animals. I know that. Mama bear had a talent when I was a kid. She knows how to rap pretty good.

Oh, 92.3, the beat. Oh, she loves Buster rhymes. I audition for that. That was crazy. It's called Craig your neck. Custer rhymes. Custer rhymes. Get it right. What did he do? He did some custer shit. No, but I listen to him all the time. I raised him on that. No. I don't listen to it, right? Let's hear what he's been doing. Okay, for the record, you know that guy, big homie Cecee? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried to put his zesty allegations on BusterRines, but I do not have any reason to believe that he

was telling the truth because that guy lies about everything. Big homie Cici just wants to go out. Big homie. Oh, big pain. Oh, wow. I think he's into Peepees. Wow. Okay, but shout out to Buster Rhym and the whole flip mode squad. Shout out to Ristair. Yes. Grat you Nick. Sliff star. Yeah. Got to do that.

Put your hands where my eyes can see. Okay, I love Busta. Busta Bust. Yes. Busta Bustra. Oh, okay. So he goes to military school for how long? For two years.

Do you feel he did anything? It kind of got him structured in the way of PT and doing personal training. He would still get up and he would run. And even after being kicked out of the school, he would still have the pattern. So that was engraved. So I thought maybe he was going to do military after. that. That was my hopes, but he had a whole different path. And in a way, he did go to war. He did, you know, he is a soldier in his own right. But he has cousins who were doing this

Crip stuff. We got Brian. Brian is who introduced you to Cripping? No, Brian is my older older cousin. And he's a Hoover. Yeah, he's from 107. And then Tony is out of the 107. So my other cousins, Levelle's a county trip. My cousin Knuckles is out of the 60s. So you knew Hoover's before you new other crips? No, I mean, my youngest cousin I grew up with is from a 60. My other cousin from West Covina, neighborhood crib. My other cousin, LaVelle from Compton Cripp. So however it went, me, it's the youngest cousin. I was. Right. Right. That's all it was. But he always wanted to be the biggest, the strongest of everything and he's done all of it. The big old Samoan baby. Look at like a little. Oh, baby. Oh, baby bear. You told he did. Are you the Samoan son? No,

Mr. Shabundi. His father, Trevor Sr. Yes, yes, sir. When's the last time you talked to him? I talked to him maybe three or four times a week. We're actually better friends now than we were before. We're both there for the baby. We're both there for Kaya.

We respect the relationship that him and his baby's mom has, you know, to stay out of their business and let him handle his business. But he's making those payments. How much do you talk to your dad? I talk with Mr. Savani. He might hit me up a couple times a week. Might text me something. Really?

Would you think he would ever come on a podcast? The answer is no. No. No. An interest isn't the fame. And I'm not going to tell you why. He lives a very private life. Very private.

We don't want to ruin what he has going on with his wife and everything else. We definitely want to be respectful. Right. And I respect Mr. Chibundee. But the only reason why it would be good to get him on camera would just be to permanently debunk the fake Krip Macdad. Well, I should be able to debunk that right now. That is not his father. Stacey, Brookshire is not his father.

But you do be hanging out with him. I hung out with him three years ago. That's when I met him. That was to work out of people homeless. Yeah, we understood that he would make money and he would be able to support his kids if he was able to ride the crickback wave. I said, not a problem. Stop, but that was before we found out that. And I asked your approval.

I asked and you said, go ahead, Mom Whitney. And that's it. But he's taking it too far. He wanting to call him out for fates and saying he's a fake this and fake that. I don't accept that. That's unacceptable. He was here. I kicked him out.

I'm sorry. I don't hate him, but you're not going to bring my son down when he's doing better in life right now. And that's when the mama bear comes out. But you authorized him to say that he was CryptMex dead. So he could get some viral hype going on? Never. Never authorized it, but I didn't say it wasn't. I just, you know, I let him ride it as long as he could to get that money to feed those two kids. They're beautiful kids.

He has a little boy and a little girl. Yeah, and they live out in Vegas out in my area. So like I said, I don't hate him. I wish him the best, but don't try to drag my son down, you know, trying to prove a point. Yeah. You got me fucked up. How did you feel once you found out that he was an informant or whatever? I had to step back.

I had a respect for my son. I don't know about all the injuries. I don't know about all the paper whack. Baby snaps hit mama bear up. Yeah, baby snaps. I speak to him often. I love baby snaps. That's my buddy.

Shout out general baby snaps. Yeah, baby snaps is cool. It said, excuse me, sweetie. You know, when I have situations with CMAQ, I go to snaps because he knows him on a different level. I know him as the mom, the coddling one, the pampering one. But I'm the cuddly bear, mama. Baby snap. I feel like I'm holding the baby that's crying right now.

I feel like I have a giant, fucking baby on my hip that I'm, trying to balance on my knee. He does have toddler energy sometimes. Got it, totally. I know, I know. I know. I lost my train up. That's okay.

I'm not even. Oh, Jesus. So see what I have to do with? Yeah, no, it seems like a lot. But it's so good to see you, son. Yeah, he's so much. And mama bear and granny bear. Okay, yeah.

Does he stress you out? I have to let it go and give it to God, just like I am when I'm on my motorcycle. Yeah, motorcycle is dangerous ride. Right. So I trust my safety. She realized she's a rider motorcycle to the day she's gone. But I'm not careless of things.

But on a motorcycle, you put on your leather, you put on that helmet. Absolutely. That protects you. And you watch the road. What could protect you from the insanity that comes with raising this guy? Geez, a huge helmet.

You got to watch everything. Watch the people around you. Yeah, you have to be very aware. That's it. Well, I'm a motorcycle coach. So, you know, and I teach out of the Arizona, Las Vegas, California. I did them the information.

And Utah area, And basically it's just getting people comfortable with the rules, regulations, and you know how to navigate on the road safely before you go and take your MSF and, you know, get certified. But the thing about it is I'm very, very aware of my surroundings. And I see that in him too. You know, you have to do something dangerous. Yeah.

So I just have to let it and turn it over to God. Most definitely. Okay. Yeah, we're going to turn it over to God. But okay, so when did you, okay, so the Texas move was the result of, of what? That was just because you had a career? I had a divorce. This was the last, yeah, most recently, the 2018 is when I came back to Vegas

and, you know, CMAQ was with Keisha and we spent a lot of time in. And McIshonte. That black cat that made him go viral. Oh, you're kidding. To begin with, we still have that cat. That cat's like 27 pounds. She's huge.

She's bigger than a Samo. Wait, so then you come back from Texas and that's when his gang-banging career really gets going. Oh, no, no, no, no. That was way before. Teenager. Okay, but he was before that, but then he was no longer a game member

when he went to Texas, right? And then he becomes a gang member. When he gets to the California? Yeah. Yeah. That's when he becomes 50-fifistry, right? Yeah, he had all the issues with all the different sets and all that stuff.

He worked it out. He took his DP like a man and called me in the middle of it, saying, Mama, you owe some money? In a back seat of a car, and I'm crying, saying, baby, are you okay? But I know he didn't. it because he knew he had to. Not a D.P.

But a put-off. No, it wasn't a put-off. It was a D-P. Well, the one that you were, that happened while you were famous was a D-P, but you were put off of... Oh, I put-up, really. See, I don't know about that.

That's... Yep. I know he came out to live with his auntie for a while, and, you know, shout out. But how stressful for you was that, knowing that you got a bunch of big, strong motherfuckers whooping your son's ass like that? Broke my heart.

Yeah? I called him right up. I said, what's going on? I see you on, you know, TV. And he said, Mama Bear, I'm fine. You know, I had to take care of what I had to take care. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of people after my DP.

A lot of motherfuckers that ain't been to the hood in years. Accountability is what it was, right? They being accountable. You got to stand on. Accountability is important. You'll stand on something you'll die. It's just that in the game banging world, accountability comes with, you know, concussions and broken ribs and whatnot.

And a decision. And a decision to continue. If it comes like that in those type of situations and beatings like that, you just got to do move destruction on your enemies on the streets. Always do destruction before we can. Or you look into why maybe you're doing what you're doing and you choose a different direction. Every people have, well, people have different for you. Okay.

For you. That works for you until it stops working. And more and extra more until it'll work for you until it stops working. Okay. So then at what point and how did you feel when he got the forehead tattoo? It feels like that's an important. That broke my heart because I know. was more than just a tattoo. It was his feelings and the way that it was designed to be shown at that

time. I think it just symbolizes his grief. And he just came up on the anniversary of tiny hardhead. He said, Mom, today was a day. And I said, rest in peace. And I felt his pain. And I knew it was more than just a tattoo and kind of get back on the day ever. And whether he takes to the day I die, I don't know. That's up to him. That's, that's your, that's your deal. But that put you at odds with Some family members, like the Hoobers that you were around. It's all right. Family unions were kind of off the table. You can't go at all.

But you Valerie said, well, I don't know, nephew. Yeah, that was very good. You know how your cousins, yeah. Yeah. Archie Valerie's mama bear's cousin. Oh, yeah. Wow. I'm going to go check her out after I leave.

Yeah, yeah. Shout to Auntie Valerie and LaVille. What helped you to get through the forehead tattoo? Like I said, prayer and just seeing that he was. passionate about something and he took that energy and he went well I mean he went and he started a feeling cautious it was just a funny thing he's passionate about because my mom says shit like that she'll be like you know as much as I was worried about him being out riding bikes until 4 in the morning at least you know he was passionate about the bike ride thing it's

kind of funny to hear her say that about having that for her tattoo yeah what the fuck can you say I know yeah but that's that's that's the position that you put her in yeah exactly having to deal with something that is so crazy yeah that what could you But I let Mumbleville know everything's going to see all right, you know. I definitely do it. Baby snaps lets her know all the time. You have been around for a long time now. Yeah.

Wow. You know? So it's like, you know, it doesn't seem like you're going to, I think we're going to see an 80-year-old. I believe so, too. I say 55 or a little older. Maybe 155. Yes.

That's impossible. There's option. Yeah, we're going to put you with Brian Johnson. You can live forever. You'd be that person. Give me AI life. Yeah. That's a good point.

Would you be mad if us kept doing interviews with an AI version of you as time went by? How do you do that? Have you died? Could I just do that? Yes, you can. I don't have the technology, but I bet it's out there. I bet you can. It would probably be boring, though, because he's only going to do the things that you've already done.

He's not going to be able to think of niche. I mean, guess what? The world will continue to watch them to the day they die. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. The question is, can the AI continue to think up new, Crip Mac storylines.

No, he's just saying the same storylines, but you can mix the storylines with other people's stories. The AI will go well. You know it will. A million years from now. New experiences. What if the AI decided that he wanted to, you know?

What? Take a walk on the wild side. He would never do. Do some Mr. Gary shit. No, Mr. Gary. Scary Gary. No scary Gary. You know, five each of his own?

He was scary. But not you. No, no, no. No, no. It's terrible. Yeah, Mr. Gary was interesting because he was scary. For being a cop, he was kind of thought, that was a sign that maybe he was a little different. Every little noise in house, he's like grabbing his gun.

Yeah, he grabbed his best. Always with this little white dog. But then he got caught fucking a big old man to like Rock Lesnar. Yeah, he was a big guy. He was getting, I mean, Brock Lesnar's kind of one of a kind. He's like the craziest genetic freak ever. All buffed out. Taring his ass down.

Wow. Did you turn screams coming from the room? It was a gym buddy. I'm like, how I think about it. Yes, at the gym. They were working out together in more ways than one. Oh, yeah. Well, he was supposed to pick me up from the library.

So stereotypical. He never picked me up in the library. So Mama Bear had me get a ride from one of her friends home. And that's what we heard. Wow. Insane. So, okay, how did you feel when Krip Mack first kind of exploded doing interviews? Because his first interview got two million views.

Yeah. So proud. That was you. That must have been a crazy experience. Yeah. Okay. Mommy's talking. Sometimes I got to do it like that.

All right. Mama bears talk again. Yeah, I stood back and I said, wow. I said, look at my baby go. Look at him getting the platforms that are necessary to create some type of change. Even though it started with such a negative catalyst, you know, this is not something that's positive

in the view of others. But he took that ran with it and look who he is today. And he's continuing to bless people and his family and be a great father and a wonderful son. A nifty father like King Five fingers. Three King Five Figures, a general. Give it every enemy. Certify.

Play ball, get cracking this. And what I know about him, what I know about him, I know I met him. You met King VIII. And what I know about CMEC is he does change because things do change. Every day there's an opportunity

for some type of change. And, you know, the never commit suicide is very powerful. Everything is going to see all right. Just hang you on for one more day. Yeah, absolutely. Shout out Andrew. Andrew Callag.

Yeah, okay. So, I mean, that the first. Like having a toddler. I'm telling you. Yeah. You're telling me. So wait, he does the interview and then you sort of realize like, oh, this is real. The same shit that I was so worried about also might be the thing that's going to make him money and make him famous.

Right. Which is putting his gangster lifestyle on display. I'm not a gangster. I'm a hensler. Right. Yeah, so I really knew that, you know, something different was going to happen because he just continued to be on the end. internet continuing to promote people and just going viral and we're like wow he's got something really special and he's using it you know what you can help different people with your platform right

as long as it's fair citizen always has to be fair right you know always have to be fair definitely yeah definitely so then I mean were you kind of astounded at how big it got because it's like it could have been sort of like a mid tier phenomenon but then I think that the channel five video takes it to another level I think the head tattoo to me was an instant death sentence in my mind for this to go the opposite direction right that's how someone else that's right but it took on its own it took on its own path oh shit uh finish the conversation always been this way and i love you to pieces yes that's a finish the conversation yeah it's okay sweetie Everything's okay.

Such a crazy fuck. I'm so used to having him on the podcast where he can just kind of do whatever he wants. It's so crazy to see him. It's someone who's trying to bring him back to reality. You don't see me pinching him under the table either. I'm going to get a fork pretty soon. I'll just be dabbing his stuff. Not a fork.

Oh, man. A four. A five, not a fork. A fight. A fight. A fight. Yeah. Okay.

So then he kind of blows up. You see you get to a whole different level in terms of him being able to make money and, you know, everything like that. And then he catches this charge, gets sent to the feds for a couple of years. How did that feel as a mother? Well, this last time, I knew something had changed before he went in. The only reason I care because I had a baby coming. If I had a baby coming, I would have never gave a fuck. The way he spoke about his future and the baby, you know, just like you said, just the baby was the cat.

The baby was only real. You know, he felt like he had something. I would have never gave a fuck about. Yeah, the baby. Right. Give her a fair life for Lottie Bear. So if anything, fatherhood would have been that one thing that really. A nifty father like king, five things.

Give me promise that things going to see all right. Everything's going to see all right. Because you were probably really looking forward to becoming a grandmother. Yes. We had a couple scares before. And I was just like, we really literally. and I'm so happy that she turned out to be exactly, you know, who I wanted to be. And he's your only child, right?

That's it. I have one and done. How fun. Did you ever think about having more kids? No. Really? No. He was the only one that made sense?

I think the relationship with him, myself and his father, created such, yeah, a paranoid thing inside of me where I didn't want to bring on another child unless I was married or in a steady situation. So I had to be honest with that and say, no, it's not an option. I've ever thought the mentally ill would make it in life. We're all working. We're all working on. I'm glad to have been a part of that.

Yes, you are. Adam is a part of. Mental health is very important. I mean, he's someone that a lot of people out there really relate to. They look at him as a survivor. Most definitely survive. Never give up, right? Hold on.

Never commit suicide. Everything you'll see all right. And never eat your own poop. What? Stop doing that. No, you're doing that again? I don't know. You never will.

I don't know what he's saying. No, no, no. He never did that, right? No, he wasn't. Maybe he's a baby. You ate crayons. You ate, you know, stuff. Normal stuff like that.

Babies don't eat. He was a really. Be it crayons, huh? Babies eat grants. Grants. Crayons. Crayons. Crayons.

Cranes. I tried to tell my kid, like, when I'm trying to tell her to stop eating her boogers when she was little, I was like, that's just as bad as eating your own poop. And that didn't really seem to like convince her. It didn't do it. Yeah. They got to do what they want to do. She wanted to eat buggers.

They'll do what she want to do. Babies eat crens. I think she got over the bugger eating, though. You just got to tell him over and over and I have to do it for a while. But all seriously, I just really like him to be his own person and to make his own decision. He's going to do that anyway. So I stand back. I watch.

I'm here to support. I'll always be in his corner. Most definitely. Yeah. I like that. I don't know what different. I don't know. Blue Dable.

She knows. Oh, Blue Dable really help when you were incarcerated this last time. Oh, he definitely did. I did a lot of business through him. Thank you. devil, that was great. Most definitely, shout him out. Yes, and babies now.

Definitely. Okay. So those two years in the feds, was that difficult for you to know that he was in this crazy environment? I knew he could handle himself. I know he would get in a lot of times. Oh, I know. I know how to do things, and I know I've learned not to go in debt.

Right. I learned. He did business while he was in there, so he stayed focused and he solved the prize, business. So I knew he was moving in that direction. Every other day at $5.55. Yeah, he was doing a lot of phone interviews. You know, make good $255.

Right. So he was creating, you know, some type of wealth in there. But I made sure I said to Kalani Berrinna to help them. Yeah. And then towards the end, I was in the L.A. County Jail, Juryna would send me money. Right, right. So she did help out. Yeah, but she knew I was coming home to her.

So that's all. But she made sure it happened where she sent the dollar. Yeah, exactly. So she was supportive as well. So that helps. Did you get worried when you heard about this incident where he allegedly had to put in some work. I don't know if that means like he just beat somebody up or stabbed him.

He ran down on somebody. I heard about it, but I don't really, yeah, I don't really go deep into thinking too much about it because I know he's in God's hands and I know he's going to handle his business. But you got to realize when you go in there on Kryptime with a gangbanger, you got to come out the same. Right.

Keep the same energy. Most definitely you got him. Right. You can't change ever. Right. You could change. No. No.

It can see the last day in there. If a riot goes on and some stabbing, you got to stab her motherfucking get 10 years. It's bad, but guess what? You stood on your crippling. You got to do what you got to do. So it's worth it for you to not see your daughter until she's, what, like 11, 12 years old? I got to stand on my crippling. Damn.

My crippling's very important. I love the baby. You put cribbing before family. No, no, no. It's Cripping and the baby. Well, but it sounds like... Cripping baby. Right there.

If you have the choice, go stab this fool on behalf of Crips or sit in your cell and wait until you get out of jail. So get marked out, you f***ed in the ass and stabbed and shot on the streets of the baby. I might see the baby in 10 years. You're not going to mark out my Crippin' old. And that's what he's dealing with today. That's how he feels today. Oh, yeah. I can't pretend to know.

You got to stand on your shit. Yeah. It's part of life. But I'm respectful at the same time. You got to respect this Crip crazy. You are very Crip crazy. That's the fact of it. Oh, certified.

You're crazy about Cripping. I'm crazy about Cripping. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So now he's back out. You're feeling good about the path that he's on. Oh, yeah.

He's staying out of trouble, right? Oh, yeah, he is. And he jumped right in and got to business, you know, doing everything. Staying out of snubble, wobble. Right. Staying out of trouble. He is meeting with probation, doing everything he needs to do. Traveling, you know, collaborating with really great people.

He and Smithy Luchy. I know I was just in Atlanta. Oh, yes, definitely. We did the pool party and also we fed the homeless out there. That was really fun to watch. Like they had every time. Hey, damn, this nigga out here feeding us? Yes, I am.

Why not? What do you think of Atlanta? Yeah, what you think? It's both so a southern hospitality. Yes, everyone very nice, right? Yes. It's different than out here. They got gangster shit going on, but aside from whatever.

As long as you're not fucking somebody's wife and her coochie or ripping somebody off or trying to get over on their money. You don't have no reason. They're not going to play ball with you. Right. They're going to leave you alone. You're a normal person in there. But also, did you leave Boosie's compound?

Did you go anywhere else really? We went from Little Coozy's compound. Then we got something big. Okay. Then the compound again. You know, he kept us and made sure we was all right. Then Spiff had his spot. Spiff and Luciano.

I call him Spiff Mac. A little further up, he got him a nice condo home, like a full bedroom with his studio and everything. Okay. A little coosie put that fight together. He's doing well as a great artist. That's his artist. Well, that's, yeah, that's his new artist.

I was going to ask you that. He's been his artist. I think about, maybe about four years now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. Yeah, shout out of slip. And he was a nice guy. I met him at the baby's birthday party. You did.

He came. He came. You know. It was nice. I didn't invite to that, but he did. I was small and intimate. Small notice because how my theme is. We love her.

Shout out of Juicy Dr. But we worked at it, and she did amazing. She did amazing. She put everything together herself. The baby was a princess. Yeah. I went to Brick Baby's, like, daughters three birthday party, a couple years or a couple months of back.

It was a good time. Baby parties are fun. It was actually like a motorcycle game. How much longer a baby got like 10 more year? Okay. Last time I talked to him, he was talking about how he might be in there for another couple years. That is a year.

Maybe two years. He was coming home. He rejected the idea that he's going to be doing 10 years. He said more like four or five. and then with the time he already did. Good positive affirmation. Well, he's already been in two years, so that's two. That's what I'm saying.

He might do another two. If he gets five years and it actually ends up being four, then might be in front of another. I mean, but he's in the feds also. Fingers crossed. Best of luck to him. Brick baby. There's a lot of fights.

There's a lot of riots in the feds when I'm there. We go up with the different Pisces, the different Mexicans up there. We go up with wood sometimes over drugs and cell phones. At any time, it can go up. around my holiday time, I tell you, in the summertime, and fucking Father's Day, it's going up in the feds. It's just something in there.

That's crazy. There's something in there. Everybody's mad. He's not in. I'm sorry. He's fine. No, that's good. He's not in, like, the actual feds.

Yeah, he's still, like, in the whatever Fed jail or whatever. Before he gets sentenced. But once he gets up there, you know, that's it. It'll get cracking. Oh, most definitely. I'm sure it's cracking where I reside now too. Oh, the federal prison is, it's cracking. I know people tell you a lot.

Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah, we are contact constantly. It's not a guarantee. If you got a lot of time, you're not coming home on time. You got a short time. You don't come home on time.

Because it's always something going on. You hear me? Got it. That's how it goes. What I want to say is that we were in contact constantly when he was in jail. Most carefully. Shout out yourself and Andrew 105. Thank you so much.

And he would just, you know, navigate things. from the outside, just make things happen with the baby and making sure she's taking care of. Oh, I'm married so they had some nifty dollars. Right. And I was so proud of him and I am proud of him for doing that. Shout out Lupe also. Oh, yeah, Lupe. She would work extra driving her lift and doing Amazon. She turned out to be a really good friend. Yes, she is. Lupe is very, very cool. Lupe is the reason why me and four extra got back on the same page. I know. Lupe puts things in order. I heard about that. Yeah, Lupe puts things in order. Okay. How did that feel for you to see?

two of your buddies for extra and me get back on good terms. I was happy. I say, you know, faux extras, you know, this can help you.

He has a baby also. This can help you a lot of care of the baby also. I'm glad you and Adam. Always thinking about other people. Always, you know. He's definitely a spody father. He's always with his baby.

Yes. I can say that. Four Excher's a sporty father. Yeah, definitely. I'm glad we're able to get back on good turns. Even though he did say that he wanted to kill me

about a year ago. Oh, you know, he's crazy. Oh, dear. God damn Who's crazier? You or him? I don't know Probably you

No no no We're both great guys Yeah but you seem like More capable of like Doing some wild ass shit Like he seems like Kind of like on the straight and narrow At this point

I don't know everything he does But he seems like he's kind of Keeping his life mellow He's a great guy just like myself Just like yourself We're great guys Nifty We got you both on the outside

He's a sporty father Four Extra and you together Is kind of like The next interview Most definitely, off the back. Shout out forward. That energy is so explosive. I've seen them together, bouncing off each other.

Yeah. Right? The only thing I'm worried about is because when I saw you guys on Cam Capone together, Cam Capone. Oh, yeah, Cam. He was just kind of yelling the whole time, and it felt like you didn't get a chance to speak. Oh, I saw that one. And I wish I was there.

I would have dove between you. I wasn't there. You can't speak on nothing that's going on if you were out there. Oh, right. How can I say anything else? No, that's the choice. But even when you were trying to talk, it felt like. The chemistry was weird.

Like you weren't really like letting each other talk enough. No, no, he asked to get what he has to say. He was just ranting the whole time. Yeah, and you're able to step back if you need to step back and let people do what they do, right? No, they talk, you know, they talk. I wasn't there to know what situation. It's hard for him to be the B mic.

Exactly. You know? The C mic. The C mic. On a podcast normally, it's like the main person is the A mic. I'm the C mic. And then the B mic, or in your case, the C mic,

would be like the person who's kind of playing second fiddle. You're usually. The fifth fiddle. Wow, so many fiddles. That's five fiddles is crazy. Fiddle whittles. I don't know if I ever seen that many fiddles.

What is a fiddle? What's a fiddle? It's like a little stringed instrument. Fiddled. Yeah, like a violinist. Honestly, I can't really picture it in my head, but I've heard about it. That sounds good. Yeah.

The fiddler on the roof. Fiddler on the roof. Oh my gosh. Focus. Just like a singer sound. You are a piece of work this guy. I am. It's better than a piece of shit.

That's true. Oh, my gosh. So if anybody ever questions whether kids are the same when they get older, this is, yes. The answer is yes. But they're just an amplified version. We stay the same. We just get older. You don't have any videos of him when he was like 10 or anything?

I make it find some. See, that I would be very interested to see. Yeah. Not in a sexual way. No, I understand. Oh, God. No. No.

Just. No. No. No, she's, I just want to see how he was acting at that time as well. She has to find some, maybe Auntie Valor. He wasn't a mean spirit. He wasn't a bully. You know, he was stand up for people who were being bullied.

Most definitely, I'll fight if I get beaten. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But he wouldn't let people push him around. It doesn't matter how big they were. No, I never gave a fuck. Right. So he's always been that way.

That's just been there. But I'm not going to sit around and let nobody get bullied. No. Sure. Okay. Here's a question. What is it like seeing him as a father? I love it.

Let me answer this. Please give me my 10 seconds. I'll get 10. Okay. Oh, my God. Five. I think you're going to say that. I don't know if you're peeping it, but she wants you to seed a little bit more of the mic time to her so that she can.

She's only done, you know, a handful of interviews in her life, whereas you've done a lot. All right. Come on. Let's go. Okay. Here we go. But we still want you involved. Most definitely.

So as a father, he's very involved. He likes to FaceTime with the baby, you know, when he can. And he makes sure that Drina gets her increments. He keeps everything in a line, keeps communication between. our side of the family and her side connected. Yeah. And just really wants everyone to be okay. And he knows we will. I want everything. You know, it will be.

So, yeah, I really love how he's being a father, even though it's not the traditional way, you know, mother father. But to be honest, he didn't, he wasn't raised seeing that as an example. So he can be the exception. But, you know, everything happens for a reason. Right. So it is what it is. Yeah. So still on not the best terms with the baby mama?

No, no. We're all right. We go there. We'll put things in order. She gets her increments, you know. Okay. Everything's going to see all right. Drina's still part of the family.

Yes, she is. She's always going to be. We respect and love. Shout out, Juicy Drina and her baby boy and Galani Bay. Yes, definitely. Does she still get mad when she sees you with other girls on camera and whatnot? Because I know she freaked out after the Tenia thing. Well, she's a woman.

You know, a woman's a woman, but she's a great woman. She takes care of the baby. She gets her increments. We'll leave it like that. Shout out Juicy Drina and everything she's doing with the baby. Yes. Okay, for sure. Okay, and so now he has a new girlfriend.

Yes, Naomi. Have you tapped in with Naomi? General Shy Look, 3-5-7 gangsta. I spoke to her on the phone and she was really, really delightful to talk to. Oh, she's a sweetie pie, especially in bed. And had something, okay, Ruth, this is my side. Let me tell my, it's like good cop, bad cop, I swear. Keep your darkness over there.

Hey, I want to shout out our only fans. Chris McWatt. I want to shout on our only fans. You get all horny. Crimp McWife. $5. A lot of people would not talk. Watch your fucking their girlfriend in front of their mom.

Get the crackdown on camera like a full nickel cracking vibe shots. Crip Mac wife only fans. $5.05. It also helps feed the baby. Okay. Is it my turn? Can I step in? Can I step in, please?

Yes, ma'am. Thank you, darling. Oh, here's my time. I don't even know. Where were we? This is just... Just what you think of is his new girlfriend. Oh, I think that, you know, I...

Oh, they were giving out food. I think for the homeless. We were. She didn't have anything but her lucky $2 bills, and she gave it to the person. And I thought that was so kind. So CMAX dad sent me some money over to get some new $2 for her. So we got her $10. So tenfold, she's being blessed for doing something nice.

Shout out, Mr. Shabundi. And then I got her a Starbucks car. So I just like somebody who's going to be positive around him. Wait, wait. So your dad reached out to give your girlfriend $10? No, no. In $2 bills. Two-tick-down.

Why had $2 bills? Because she gave her last $2 bill to a homeless guy. The $2 bills are just lucky. Right. So we replace them. When I was a kid, my dad would, like, give me a $2 bill on Christmas. You're from New Hampshire. I am.

Yes. $2 bills are fun. There are no hoover's in New Hampshire, as far as I know. You're fucking still, Schoamshare. I know. I'm just saying, however it goes. Maybe you could retire to New Hampshire so you won't ever have to see another Hoover. New Hampshire.

Who knows? He walked in the building and he said, Adam 22 from New Shampshire. I'm like, I think you did it wrong. Did you really say that? Yes, no shoo shoo. He added it to the wrong part of the way. Why would I be shocked about anything?

Anything. Why would you? I don't know. I'm not. No, but New Hampshire is the best state that you could be from, from his perspective, besides California, I guess, because I am from NH. Oh, I love that.

I knew that about you. Which Big You once pointed out to me, he said, ooh, in New Hampshire, I like that. that I go no homo and he goes no Adam he was shout out of Lupe Child Loupe neighborhood neighborhood

Are you from here California? No New Hampshire New Hampshire Yeah You're from New Hampshire Yeah

Yeah How the fuck did you get here? I like the initials though You're from in age No homo Yes sir Oh and No homo

No homo Steve What that fuck No Interview was over, bro. The interview was over. What the time is doing it up? Lupe's his neighborhood, bro.

How do you feel about people who say that your new girlfriend looks like evil Lupe? Who says that? I've seen that in the comments. She looks like a younger Lupe. She's more of a gang-bang-banged-out younger Lupe. Okay, yeah. She does have the similar face of Lupe.

A little bit. If he's serious about her, I want to meet her. So he seems like he's serious. I haven't met her because I live out of state, so I've only contacted her. Right. And it's been very good conversations, like I said, you know. I definitely have you meet her.

Yeah. How does it feel seeing him become so open-minded that he's willing to date someone who's technically from a rivalhood, even though it's... I think love takes over. Yeah. And I think that shows what he really is about. You got to look at it. It's not like, she's from over her five-one travels, you know. Okay.

Or nothing out there. She's from another city that gets along with them. So it's a little different. It's not in a meeting. But it's still You get what I'm saying See I think this is the beginning Of what is going to be a long

Process of you opening up your mind And I think one day we are going to see Crip Mac walking down the aisle Arm and arm With a Crip blue band down a suit With a Hoover batty Never Never

No You never know I think you're gonna get there No No No No No

That's crossing the line That's too much That's crossing the line Love is not that powerful Love is never that powerful. Especially when they take your own voice from you, you love.

Yeah, that's true. You can never date nobody from enemy. What about like a Texas Hoover? I don't give a fucking it. It's all the same shit. Okay.

It's all the same shit. I'm gonna keep on trying. No, don't try. I'm gonna find you love. He's gonna find you love. Okay, so how did it feel for you as a mom to see him, you know,

squabbling up with a bunch of different influencers on streams and stuff like that? had an epic battle with Dean the Great. And then there was another guy who I actually met in Vegas recently. I forget his name. He walked right up to me. Oh, yeah.

Shout out to him. Yeah, he follows me. My champion. He walked right up to me. He said, I'm the guy who knocked out Krip Mac. I'm like, ah. Right, right. He's going to knock your ass out also.

I almost squared up with him. No, you did not. I think it's good. I think that you're showing that you're flexible. You know. George, George O. Uh-huh. He definitely said.

And you don't turn down faith. It doesn't matter from the professional or not. But you're not. boxer. He's not trained like all these guys. Georgia O'Palest, he is a UFC fighter and a wrestler. Yeah, he was a nice guy. Shout out. He was Georgia Palaz. Let me tell you something about Georgia O'Palice,

though. He definitely gave me my respect. He said a lot of guys aren't going to fight him. Wasn't that the one on the pavement? What they were like fighting on the pavement? They took it down. Yeah. Creators Inc. Shout on Andy Mack. I remember cringing thinking, please don't fall, baby bear, please.

You know, but yeah, he fell. But he got back up. Baby bear fell A little baby No definitely Wait How do you feel Because Remo was saying

That he keeps like Almost getting you lined up for fights And then you change your mind Well Remo he likes to put shit in order How he puts shit in order But it's never enough Money wise It's never enough money wise

And you gotta go through so much And they don't give you enough time Like nothing to go out there And just go out there And just go out there And fight him up It's been training a million years A million years

That's a fair So you've got to get the time to put shit in order. Right. You know what I'm saying? Well, they're always trying to get Lena to fight someone, but then they're like, oh, it's in three weeks. And she's like, if I'm going to do it, I need six months. Not six months.

At least 90 days, Lena will be. Sure, yeah, three months. Get some really good training in. At least 90 days is cool. But they want you to do that shit within the next week or the next week. Hurry out. Right. And they've been, yeah, you're right.

They've been training all this time, knowing about it. Yeah, they know about it. And now they're invited. And you're all eating pizzas the night before. Hold on, but hold on. It's nothing like that because it's actually on a fucking pay-per-view. Oh. You get what I'm saying?

You know it's on a paper view. Well, it's really a stream on brand risk. So people don't have to pay for it, but it's a big deal, you know. The question is, would you consider training to do any type of? Yeah, yeah. That would be fair. If the bag was big enough, yeah. Yeah.

It asked you. Yeah. It's going to stop a lot of the day and a lot of the dollars coming in. Yeah. Unless it's bare knuckle fighting. No, please don't do that. That's just so brutal. You ever see that?

I've seen it. That's what it is in jail is bare knuckle fighting. I know, but it's so gnarly when you actually watch it. It makes boxing look like no big deal in comparison when you really see that. It's what UFC did to boxing, basically. That's what jail is, is bare knuckle fighting. It's not boxing. Yeah, no.

Jail fights are pretty gnarly as well. You see those on the gram, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But so you're still open-minded about fighting. It's just everything's got to be in right. see what a knuckle about where the training is. Yeah, you got to get some time.

And you would do it, wouldn't you? You would go hard. That's easy. If the man's not a snitch or a rival, yeah, most definitely. Would you commit to the training, though? Would you seriously? Yeah. All right.

Depend how everything goes. Because any minute, another nigga from Hoover or Brims can find where I stay, and I got to get my money and get the fuck up out of there, and I got to keep moving. Yeah, I'm sure it's a dangerous life with that. So it has to make sense. Yeah. Absolutely.

Oh, yeah. Oh, man. So where were you hanging out with Blueface again? That's pretty cool seeing you guys become cool. I know. Crip face is cool. I'm friends with his mom. Oh, are you?

You friends with him? She's a sweetheart. She's really nice. Yeah. Little Snaps' cousin is from schoolyard, Crip, Bowding. So, little Snaps left Bowding and Blueface and, you know, snow I really am. I like seeing it. I really do.

He respects my Crip crazy, Crippin, and we've been doing things in order. Because you guys used to be viewing each other as ops, right? Well, until Little Snaps, which his boating's cousin let her know she knew I really am from over there. So he officiated it. Most definitely. Ain't no faking no fucking general rank. But is it, okay. Anybody's set.

Is it true that the neighborhoods in the schoolyards that's not really a beef anymore, that they might be on good terms? I mean, it's not really, it's not really going at it right now. Okay. Because a lot of the schoolyards, they're cool with the Harlem. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I feel like you and Blueface could help create a real deal alliance.

We can make a lot of dollars. I mean, yeah. And then, like, who's going to go against that? I feel like then the younger cats start to maybe be on good terms, right? No. Shadow Crip face, Blueface. You don't have that power, though? You can't, like, tell the young goons to stand down?

I mean, it's a lot of goons. They're going to listen or they're not going to listen. It's their choice in life. Neighborhood Crip is a very large group of people. They're going to listen and they're not going to listen, you know? Right, definitely. What's the biggest difference between you and Blueface as men? Oh, Blueface is a man.

man. Right. But is there like anything that really stands out as different? What's different? He stands apart. He's a crept. He's a great grip. You both like to drink and smoke a little bit, party a little. You both love girls. Different types of girls, maybe.

We love fucking girls' coochies and blues. Have you seen him do that? No, he talks to Caldard. So he's a great guy. You believe it, okay. He's a great guy. You both like to box? Yeah, when we missed time. He's a pretty fearsome boxer, though.

Yeah, he's trained well. Yeah, he trained. He might have lost his last fight, but he's still a pretty damn good at that. He's more a flyer type of guy. A flyer guy. He's a flyer type of cripple type of guy. He's a cool guy. He's a flyer.

Well, you know. What's a flyer? He's a flyer type of... He's a fly crip. Okay, God. Whereas he's a tripper. And a chipper. Okay, I'm learning all this stuff.

I don't know. So it's a little different. He's a respectable, respect cripping. He could blend in... Yeah. Crazy cripping. He could blend in with the, the normal people a little better,

whereas with you, it's really like, I'm a gangbanger flashing from the rooftop. It's like a little low-key. It's like, yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, he's, you think he's a little low-key? He's low-key. No, he's cool, he's mellow.

He's a fly-type of Crip way. Right, now I got the fly part. He's going to stand on Cisner. He's a cool Crip. He seems like a good person. I'm glad he's around him. Yeah, I f*** with a blue face. That's Crip face.

Shout out Blueface. Crip face. That too. Say Crip face. I know blue face. I know blue. It's a win either way. What's wrong with blue face? Blue face is the same thing. You got to see it. That's not surprised you're correcting her. Yeah, well, he does. Right. Definitely. Okay. So do you still communicate with Chinnamac? And what? Shout out China Mac. Yeah, I talk with China Mac. He got me Mr. Snorrence and Mr. Carfield.

Wait, but so he came out here for a couple days? Yeah, we did Mac Ventures. It just hasn't came out. Oh, wow. So he's waiting. He's going to put out. was surprised. This guy is super busy. I can't even keep up with them. You guys, no seriously, I watch him on TV just like everyone else does. You know, to find out where he is. Because once he's someplace, he's moving to the next.

He's doing it. I can't even keep up. So he's just, when big things come up, that's when we talk. You know, anything. But I watch. China Mac. So, yeah, Mac Ventures, I saw just like everybody else did, the little preview. But so China Mac ran his eyes back to Asia real quick there, huh?

Is he scared or something? No, he's never scared. China Mac will fight you. He had something to do? Oh, I know he would. China Mac's been fighting in prison his whole life. No, but Asian courts in the straw. I don't think they should fight.

Nothing's worth fighting over. We go throw him in the grill, turn him into orange chickens. No, no, no, wait, hold on, just a great fight. Hold on my thinking one he came out. Screw it back in. But Chinamack, he can't afford to stay out here, right? Of course he can. No, I think that's why he's got to stay in Asia, right?

Because he ain't got no money. Oh, China Mac has a lot of money. How's he getting money? I think he has a lot of projects going on. He has a lot of, what's it called, promotion deals. There you go. Yeah, China Mac will make some money. I don't think you can afford to move back to L.A.

It's in the right home. Nobody can afford to be in L.A. My Airbnb was hell of expensive in Santa Monica. My Airbnb. Air CNC. Airbnb. I helped you pay five minutes. Are you going to go ahead?

Air C and C. Mike Bo. He did. My kind said did get the air CNC. I show did. So I choose my battles at him. I mean, clearly I may seem like I'm just being outdone here by this guy. But, you know, like I said, it's that that cuddling, that love that I have for him that I understand. And, you know, mental illness is something that we deal with all the time. Do you think he was mental evil? He was diagnosed. Okay. On top of that, when he was in military school, they did his IQ and it was 132. So he was at higher. That's insanely high. So, yeah, and people make comments. They're like, oh, he's on the spectrum.

Everybody's on some level of the spectrum of like autism and stuff. There has been times where he'll talk to me about things that I'm kind of shocked by. I'm like, whoa. Man, but I do the same thing. So in my autism, I think we're all in a different level. You're a little autism, awesome. Don't lie to people on camera. Yeah.

I'd like to square off with you on an IQ test live on screen. No, not that. Yeah, that was one of the good things they did because I knew I was dealing with a really smart child. I mean, really smart. Oh, that's my mom a bad. Right, so that's not the question. But you don't have mental illness like the type that he has? No, I deal with depression.

Yeah. Okay, but not quite like him. No. And then I also, honey, let me share this really quick. Okay, just give me 30 seconds. I also. 55 seconds. I also am in recovery.

I'm a recovering alcoholic. I'm coming up on two years sobriety. I used to still her own and use up the refrigerator when I was five years alone. But the thing about it is. You know, dealing with him and knowing and having the compassion of being in the program and having, you know, groundedness and not drinking and trying to change how I feel. I see where he's going through and I have that compassion for him. And I just went a long way to say that I understand I get it.

Mr. Shibundi drinks Cudwiser. Really? And Cud light. Sometimes Munchy drinks butt water. Munchy peanut butter ass? No. Oh, my gosh. Fake rumors.

No, no, no. No, he drinks cut water, but the blood version might be butt water. But, well... I don't know if they would play around like that, but... Fuck munchy. Nah, you said that in a loving way, though. I hear the way he just said that. It's nothing loving about...

You got love for him. Because you guys both been through the same struggle in a lot of ways. No, I didn't have peanut butter in my asshole. Neither did he. That's a fake news. No, that's real. That's real. Bring O.D.M. Slim on the show.

I have. He was here last time you were on you. He'll tell you. Nah. Yeah, I think so. Nah. He might. And also, sexual assault is nothing to joke about.

Never. Oh, it's nothing to joke about? Whether it involves food products or not. Food products or not. He should have stood on his gangbanging a little more harder. You did everything you could. And that's a fake rumor. Fake news.

Fake news. Crip Mac. See, your mom wants to say, hey, Crip Mac, maybe you should be making jokes about people being sexually assaulted with food products. I know. No, she is dead. My clue. I missed the cue for that one. It's just all a skit.

Moncie, we know it's a skit with your peanut butter ass. I'm just astounded by his behavior, typically, just like everyone else. But like I said, there's acceptance. And I'm going to love him regardless. You seem like you found a lot of peace. Yeah, I had to. And patience, too, because I'm a talker as well. Him and I are both type A personalities.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, you know. I'm type C. Yeah. Hi. Hey. No. Type C person. So it takes a lot for me to pull back, but I really want to hear the things he says and try to figure out, you know.

No, Stefan. She's going to ride motorcycles until the day she died and a gangbrancholy. What I can do to better myself as well. It's the same type of thing. Would you become a motorcycle guy? No. Not your style? It's not for everyone.

Why not? It's not my style. Do you think if you were riding a motorcycle, you might just kind of, like, because sometimes you seem like you have, like, uncontrollable motions. I wouldn't want to do it. The first time I rode a motorcycle was. Will's. Remember, I was 22 years old. He used to do handstands at Mama Bear's apartment. Yeah, he had a Honda Hurricane 1000. I was 21 years old, 22.

And that thing was heavy. But that's when I fell in love with motorcycles. Yeah, yeah. I remember Will. I was two years old when I met Will. Right, yeah. I remember I was young. I remember all Mama Bears, boyfriend, I was a baby. That's right. I was two. Will was so cool. He used to buy me all the toys and everything. He was a nice guy. Shout out Will. Shout out Will. Where's got?

You're McQuare. I have not. I have not. Shout out to Will. He was a really nice guy. Okay. Has there ever been a time in which you felt like his lifestyle was potentially putting you in danger?

No, but I had somebody point that out. And this person said that basically I may not be getting job opportunities if I'm connected with anything. I said, well, my son is my life, but he is not going to drive my life. So if people see that as being a job. determining factor for not hiring me or whatever, then I don't need to be there. I need to be true to myself. But I've only had positive interactions for the most part. People recognize me all the time. Most definitely. You can do a lot of great things to bar help people do different things. And they'll

see the bright lights. Yeah. And they love him. They always want to take a picture with me. And I know because he puts a positive vibe out there in a negative circumstance. And that touches a lot of That song goes through my head sometimes. I have low days. I have days when I don't feel 100% and I'm like, man, what am I doing? Remember Julian in his low days? God bless Julian. Your son keeps you on track.

Yeah, and the song just come. I'm like, things get rough. Don't give up. Don't take your own life. And it's just, it's so easy to just think that you're hopeless. But to be able to hang in there, you know, that's inspiring. You know, he may be a goofball, but that was a powerful message. A goofball.

Yeah, my goofball. No, it's true. Acceptance, acceptance, acceptance. What? That's what you have to say to yourself multiple times in this interview. Like, I got to accept him for what he is. I choose to accept him. He's a crazy mad-ass crib.

Yeah, I choose him. I'll choose him every time. I really think this is a powerful portrait of like what it takes to be a mom to a character like this guy. Oh my God, my heart is racing right now. You have no idea is just the anxiety of just wanting him to be okay. on a very mom level. You know, we want the best for our kids. And when you see them going in a direction that you can't handle,

you step back, you pray. He's just watch. And you let things happen the way they should. And you watch everything. He's going to be just fine. That's the power of everything. Everything's going to see all right. Being a mom.

Yes. It's tough. Everything's going to see all right. Everything's going to see all right. Everything's going to see all right. Everything, everything, everything, everything. everything, everything, going to see all right. But I did teach him the hustle, right?

Working two or three jobs. He's always seen me. Yeah, get that money and make it impact. You got to make your dollar bills. And help other people along the way. Get back by the community. That's right. Wow.

Because the incident that I was thinking when I asked about if his lifestyle ever impacted yours was when, because you ran into Job 5 in a restaurant. He was a very nice young man. He was very respectful. respectful, respect five. And yeah, he gave really good props, you know, to my skills, what I was doing because I was bartending at the time. And I just remember the girls he were with. They were, they were so nice and well dressed and well spoken. And I'm like, is this the person that it can't be the same person, but it was. And I told him, thank you, you know, for being a good person. But he recognized you? He recognized me. Okay. And he just said, you're a Krimack's mom. But then he was cool about it. Yeah. And I said, can I get a picture with you? Because I knew my son would not believe me. And he was respectful. He didn't. He said that's cool.

He's mutual. He's mutual. Yeah. I wish him the best. I really do. I really do. That's cute. Yeah.

You got to love that. Yeah. It's the Japanese in them. But I love that they can get into that they can get into that fight and then walk away and still have respect for each other. And, you know, people trying to say, oh, that's lame and that's not good. No, that's people involving. No, a lot of people who can't. They'll go through the L.A. County Jail.

They'll die. But I think that's part of the evolution for CMAQ. Wait, but okay, now you and Blueface are real cool. Right. Jap 5 is on the Blueface tour that I went to the other day in Lancaster. Look at God. You can deal with that. You know, hey, some of my friends are going to be friends with other people.

You got to remember if you've seen some of the clips when Japp was saying what he was saying, Blueface wouldn't say anything. Blueface, he fucks would be awesome. So it's a mutual respect. Yeah, shout out Crip face. I think it's carefully orchestrated. In Japanese vibe, treating Mama Bear with respect. I definitely respect that.

That is a factoid. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so what do you want to see Crip Mac do with his remaining years on Earth, or even if we just narrowed it down to like the- Only fans with Crip Mac's wife. What the hell? Her? No, that's what I'm doing.

Oh, that's what you're going to do. Let me know when I can start. Whoa! Okay, so what I want to see, you remember? Oh, shit, Mama Bear, no. Babe, listen, remember the cartoons? Remember the cartoon you should do, the animation and all that? I would love for you to get back into that and do some wasteover stuff.

Well, we got to find the right nursing because I'm croaking equipment. He scammed me out of all the money. Shout out croaking equipment. So if you have a really good animation person, you know, because he has great characters and voices and things he does. But see, a lot of those people, they know you make dollars, they'll try to overtax you. If they find somebody that don't have no platform, they're charging them fair. And that's why Spiffy and me and them deal with a lot of people. Well, it happens.

That's the direction I like to see. Definitely voiceover work. And, you know, he's got some movie opportunities coming up. And helping the next person, like I said, you know, just really being. Helping the next person. Right. Yeah, what's going on? Oh, Sprite.

Oh, my gosh. He brought the whole session stand. Obey your thirst. Yeah. So, yeah, just to be a good person, I want to see him be happy. Most definitely, I am happy. I am happy. I had a couple of guys that wanted to shout out if you didn't mind.

I want to shout out Crowe out of Ohio. We got a song coming out. Crow. Yeah. 23rd Street up, five West Coast is our song. It released July 24th. And also, razor sharp carbershop out of Cankersfield. That's my boy, Bricks.

Carver Bricks. Right. Razor Sharp Carborshop. Wow. Yeah, we shout those great guys. That's crazy. Yeah. And then all the other people that want to shout us,

they couldn't have fight it so but those two shut those and they can't. Okay. Crystal, anything else

we need to know to understand this dynamic that you have with your son? She's gonna drive motorcycles to the day

she dies and gang banging grip to the day I die this has been illuminating. Shut out big trade A

he's 60 years old, he's still gangbanking but you're talking to him or what? No, no, that's just you've just

observed him. Most definitely. I got to hit him again. You got to hit him up. Yeah. I interview, we haven't done an interview in a while. Yeah, he'll do interview with you.

Shout up Big Trady and awesome DW flying. Oh, my cleaning lady. That's your girl, Matt, M-Z-I-M-B-E-T-T-E-R. Thick cleaning lady. Oh, she has a big old juicy chocolate booty, don't she? Huge. Shout out my great cleaning lady and her book, Uncrackable.

And also my party supply lady, Nitchie underscore creation, L.A. surrounding areas. Party supplies. And Spottedlox daughter is a beautiful world. Grip by gin, she does here. And also... Spider-Loke, Known Custer.

Hey, Kay, we're not going to disrespect Spider-Loke on this, but I got to do it. He's a loke. No, he's a loke. Well, let's also shout out Regina, Braves by Regina, L.A. Vegas, around the area. She does her thing. Oh, yeah, she's in Vegas. I just found out. Lupe told me yesterday.

She's in Vegas and she's in L.I. I have to hit her up. But we're not going to disrespect Spider-Loc on here. Shout out Spider-Lose. That's about a look. It's a beautiful world. A belittiful coaster. It's a beautiful world. What else do you want to let the people know about what this has all been like for you?

Oh my gosh. Nerv-wracking. I just didn't know what to expect as far as, I don't know. I guess everything. When I have this child, I thought it was just going to go the traditional route. And for him to be such a big. Oh, she's mid-sentence. It's all right.

Mama bear, we have coached war. She has a coach-wara. But she was mid-sense. As a respectful son, shouldn't you let her finish her thought before you interrupted, start talking about some random shit? Adam, can you cut that? I can't. Let's go.

Promise me. Let me go. Come on. Give me a second. All right, she's trying to think. I think you upset her by interrupting her. Well, my mind spins so fast. I don't want to fight yet.

I understand. It's challenging, and this is the real face of mental health and people who, you know, really need help. And I'm never going to give up on my son. That's the bottom line. And as hard as it is for me to get the words out right now, I need him to know that I love him, and I support him. And we're going to get through this together. If anybody else is struggling, don't give up. Just hold on one more day. Hold on. And gang bang to the day you die, torture your enemies to death. They're standing on

this shit. And that's all I have. And that's all I have. The best straight, the best drink. Program time five, coach Warren, Falcon Face, my big home boy. It's the girl at program time five. Get your clothes. I don't look. That's what I got. Mm-hmm. There it is. Yeah. They don't want if I get. Nothing like a mother's love.

Yeah. Everything's gonna see all right. Amazing. Um, Grip Mac, Crystal. Oh, last thing, please. Shout out Winnie Stacks. You really are in your own world over there. Well, the great people. Acceptance, Adam. Acceptance. Trust me, these tears aren't bad.

It's not negative. No, no, no. It's acceptance. Right. Winnie Stacks putting things and norify me with different shows like loving hip hop and stuff. Shout when he stacks out.

Yeah. I get it. Josh from Y and C. Oh, Josh. Shout out to Josh. Yeah, Josh from Yance. For sure. Miss Yance, yeah.

Crip Mag. And his mom on the podcast for the first time we made it through. We made it to. Look how fast she bounces. back. It takes strength to be firm. Hey, salute to her.

Thank you so much. You're being a great mom all these years. Most definitely salute. It takes a lot of tolerance and acceptance to deal with someone as pride as you. Fide as me. You get it like this. Settle camera, mother-hoffir-

I was fired as you. Okay. I knew as soon as that was leaving my mouth, I knew that I was going to have to create myself. Thank you, Adam. I appreciate it. Insane. I appreciate you guys.

coming on here for all of my Krip Mac students out there. This is hopefully showing you a lot more of what exactly it takes for this guy to have existed all these years. Guilty! You are a saint. You are a classy broad. I appreciate it.

Thank you so much. Let's go out there and take a photo and yeah. Krip Mac Krip Mac's mom, Crystal. No Jumber. Coolest podcast in World. Check us on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. Like, comment, and subscribe. And shout out to our members who got to see this first.

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