No Jumper - Crip Mac Loses his Fight! Clav ARRESTED! Kendrick Let’s AZ Chike Down & More

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Purple Cup. What's that? The Burles Ball. A fan gave me a big bottle. A biggie? Yeah. No. Where? No park. Oh, see, going to Street TV, putting up right there. You just saw a guy randomly? Yeah, man. I'm like, okay, you dream. Yeah, yeah. It's like when they're chunking, gave me the whole little, the pregnant bottle. Wow, that's like 30 bucks?

Mm-mm. More. Really? Is it? I mean. It's a massive one. It's like a bowl ball. Not the bowling ball. What's it called? The biggie. The biggie is like, yeah, yeah.

But then there's another one that's like the boulder. Oh, shit. No, you got a big. But you know, like the bigger the bottle is it seemed like it's sweeter. You notice that? Well, you don't notice. Who did you hit one? On the lowest of keys.

Like, this flavor is a shirt. This. This. Down here. I'm not. That flavor is sweet. You might get the girls back on it. I'll hang out with them because they come with auxiliary benefits.

You get to take them in your office after. You want to try this flavor? Is the bud shaped like a buzz ball, though? What? The buzz bar girls. They got a buzz ball shaped butt or no? No. They're more so smaller girls.

I wouldn't say they're known for the butts. They're like petite. Yeah. The other one, Francesca, she got, and I did not take her in my office, by the way. That was a joke. But Francesca's got some big old cans on her. But the other one, Jackie, she's a little more dainty.

And Jackie is the one that's the one that's, like unbelievably tiny as well she's like 411 I think she said or something and Francesca's more normal height. Them and as one them fuse together. Oh that's a star yeah yeah yeah I don't care though

yeah. So essentially three one bring two. I would take the buzzball ride let me tell you I would imagine like what the blood alcohol content is since she's so small she like and I see them because okay so now the buzzball girls are like streaming with all the struggles

streamers in the OC and stuff like struggle streamers i don't even i don't actually know that i don't really know if they're like actually struggle streamers or whatever but i see them on um their stories and sometimes i'll click through to the kick the kick link because i want to like see like what are the buzzball girls doing on stream i'll watch it for like literally 30 seconds and then just be like what am i doing and like uh but yeah they're like hanging out i haven't like paid enough attention but my guess and what it seems like is that they are getting annihilated, which like drunk.

But that Jackie girl, bro, like bro, if she drinks two buzzballs, she can't drive. She's done. Even one. Yeah. She should not drive off one. She's only 4-11.

And she's skinny. And she's skinned. She's probably 100 pounds max. Well, people get it like, it feels with me when they see me obliveria, how you pronounce it? Obliterated. Obliterated.

Obliverated. It's a new way to get drunk. You're going to be. Well, that's because it was a fifth of some hard liquor. How you get fed off two buzz balls? Well, I'm just saying they're small. I'm just kind of like assuming that about them. But, yeah.

I mean, it would like if that, the chick that's 411, if she drank that biggie to the face, she's going to blow like a point to something based on how small she is. But she seems like she's getting a reps in. Like she's drinking a lot consistently So that's good It's going to build Like I could I would get really really drunk

I remember during the stream The 24 hour stream I drank a buzz ball And I was I was toasted Just a little guy Just a regular buzzball and I actually had to like Really deliberately be like okay No more alcohol for like Quite a few hours now

Your body like uh Thank you You know what's real Pause you got a pure system Yeah For the most part I know. Wait, no, was that all you had, though, was a buzz ball?

Was that it? Probably smoking a lot of weed, but I don't think we were taking shots or anything. If I drank anything right now, if I took two shots, I'd be out of here. Right back in the game. What? It's only been like 40-some day, right? Yeah, 41. I'm going to slam your head in the car door if you try to get in that car and go get a buzzball.

No desire to. If you drink, pack out. It honestly looks. It looks. Dead homies. Rios is leading it. It looks the first time, my first time since I've got sober where I even thought like, ooh, that looks nice is when I just seen Munchy's buzzball.

That shit, low-key, like. Triggered-key. You saw Munchy's buzzball? Yeah. In low-key, I was like, damn. Like, I remember that. That was fun. All this shit sounding gay.

All of it. Just loving drinking is yet. I see his buzz balls. If he said your balls, like, if he just was calling the buzz balls, and he was just like, oh, I just looked at his balls. When I saw him, much he's bulge, just hopping out his jeans. No, I didn't say that. I was literally like, but that looked nice.

When I was playing poker yesterday at The Hustler, there was this one dude who he kept saying, Adam, I'm going to top you. And I kept saying pause, and he just had no idea what I was like, he didn't react at all, ever. What does that mean in poker? It doesn't mean anything in poker, but he was just saying it like, I'm going to do better than you. Like, if I'm going to raise, it'll say, okay, I'm going to top you. And I'd just be like, bro, I'm hip hop. Maybe he meant it the way we think he did.

Oh, you don't know I'm going to plug talk every week. You don't know. I'm hip-hop. I can't be topped. I'm hip-hop. I'm too hip-hop to get topped by a dude. Yeah. Like in front of all these people.

Is he hip-hop? Well, okay, do you consider a saucy Santana hip-hip? Is he a rapper or singer? He's a rapper? He's a rapper? Yeah. But do you consider, like, sassy, gay, like, rap, like, like, real, like, rap? Yeah, because if a girl raps, is a rap?

Yeah. Sassy gay rap. What about Isaiah Rashad? Like, he actually gets... He's like he was a singer. No, he raps. I never listen to him when we were really. I'll rap.

He's actually hell of fire, too. He really came and say sassy gay rap because we all sung alone to a gay, nigggy, all of us. Frank Ocean? No, nigga, Lil Nyes, bro. All of us. I was rocking out.

I'd rather sing to Frank O's in a little nys. That shit was a little nigh. Like, like, beating moh. I wrote. I was rocking out. That song wasn't about anything gay at all. Which one? What?

Old Town Road. Yeah, Old Town Road. Yeah, old town road. Yeah, I didn't think about it like that. He was playing on our faces. He said, wranglers on her booty. Men don't say booty. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, the whole time. He gay, though. He was talking, broke back. He was a hiding. He was a broke back mountain in it. I was saying word from word, bro. Bro, the fact that they couldn't keep Lil Nas X's career going, they couldn't keep Lizzo's career going.

It's just like, what is happening? Who is they or him? The powers that be. the tiny hat people I don't know I mean the music industry as a whole which I guess is basically just saying like a bunch of rich Jewish people

I thought Lowe Nazex was in rehab or something right he was at one point because like I like missed out on commentating on that scenario because he got super drunk like not too far from where I live and was just like drunk well he seemed drunk but then I think it came out

that he like wasn't on anything I don't know but he was just gallivanting down the street doing some weird dance screaming. I thought for sure this has to be album promo. I just completely ignored it. Never talked about on the show. Turns out real deal psychosis. Yeah. Gay psychosis. So what if you would hit you? Like, hey, could I hit the guest room and I'm a little faded? No, you got to go. It's not happening. My Lennon don't even like like normal friends of mine sleeping over. Hey, so he was doing the same dance. Crimack was doing it. Remember Crimack found out he was gay,

he said he got out of the party. Hey, hey, hey, I don't know what. At Crimack, he didn't make me laugh before. Because they tried to do comparison with, like, 4 X in Kremak. Right. I never laughed at 4-Ax before. Kremak actually made me laugh. Yeah, 4-X2 definitely has, like, less funny moments. Yeah, like the shit that, like, I've been in jail before. It ain't funny to me.

But I'm like, Kremak, he got some humor out here. Like, you know what I'm saying? He went to McDonald's trying to order. That's a good transition, though, is that we should talk about Krip being whooped in the boxing ring. Put up more of a fight than I did, but it was always the same. That, though? I thought he had a real boxing match. He had some seat with some slapping gloves on.

Yeah, that format is weird as hell. Wait, wait, what's different about the format? Okay, you know, like when you, like, do training for boxing, the shit that the trainer wears that you hit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were the gloves they were wearing. They don't like this. Yeah, it was like slapboxing. So you couldn't actually, like, really punch the guy?

You have to, like, calm? You can't ball your fist fully. I've never heard of this. How did this even become a thing? It's not a bad. It's not for his, butterbeys known for his knockout. It's not. Right.

It's not respected, bro. He steals to the whoopty. If Sugar Free did it, being him being a pimp, me on some slapping sheet, it's more entertaining. That'd be funny to see two pimps in that form at first.

Right. Yeah, Sugar Free versus Sharp. You know, Krip, Krip talking about you slap boxing, bro. And he lost the slapbox. He quit in the second round. Lost. Yeah, yeah, he did.

It kind of explains things because he wasn't, like, trying to take the fight with, what do you call it? He wasn't trying to do a brand rest fight against King Yella. But maybe, like, you know, the possibility, again, beat up by King Yellow, like, with actual boxing gloves was like, like, maybe this seemed more appealing to him. Because I do think, I hate to say at Krip Mac, but I do think King Yellow would whip him. Man, King Yellow would have smashed that, man.

I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you, we came up with this yesterday. Doboy, and I got my money on Doe Boy. Oh, yeah, Doe Boy versus Krip Mac is an amazing fight. I actually think that's one that Krip Mac will win. You think Cripp would... Hey, hold on, boy. Yeah, yeah. Wait, but let's, like, do this Crip Mac thing, and then we'll do the Dooboie topic,

because there's so much to say about Doobo. Also, how is it acceptable to film like this, in this day and age? What is this? And why are we watching it off a random reaction channel? It's horrible. What is it? Oh, so that was the first round, but I couldn't really tell that much about what's going on. I definitely can't see the gloves.

And his pants are falling down. He couldn't pull them up. But he do get them good Cripp short. He had to come heavy with them Cripp shorts because Butterbean's son was rocking his like signature American flag fucking shorts. He looked just like Butterbean too, low-key. Oh, yeah. He just ain't got those hands like him. Nah.

I think it's fair to say that Crip Mac does not have knockout power. And I say that as a person who also clearly does not have knockout power, but it doesn't seem like he's going to be responsible for knocking anybody out in the ring. Would you say that's fair? I would say that's fair. he's lacking a lot of skills in that. I guess his cardio is really whooped. Yeah, his footwork, his everything is off. Damn.

You got some boxing training in you? I used to boxing when I was younger. But like it's just, you could just tell when somebody just don't got the one to properly. Yeah. You got it. I feel like Mike at his heart is a really kind soul. You don't even really want to hurt people like that.

You feel me? He just like, he's not trying to just, Wait, so you don't think that if Krip Mack had like an insane boxing ability, you don't think he'd be trying to fight somebody like every other week? I feel like that. Because I think he would be, I don't think anybody would fight more. He would literally fight every two weeks. I don't know.

I think that in order to do that, you need that killer instinct. You need that. I think if you're just to be good at boxing. If you're good at boxing, you can fight. You're going to fight. If you can make money. If you're a monster, like if you're really, good, you'll just get the killer instinct because you'll just fall in love with whooping people.

Like, you know, like, a lot of the dudes who are like amazing Pro BMX riders I used to be with all the time is like, on one hand, yeah, they worked really, really hard. But also a lot of them were the dudes who were like 11 and they were already kind of sick. You know, like they just naturally were like good. And it's like that just positively reinforces itself because now like, oh, you're learning tricks fast. So it makes you want to ride more. And like you actually have the natural talent to not get hurt or progress really fast, you know? I feel like it just like feeds off of itself. Yeah, but I'm going to refer back to CritMack's primary ethos when it comes to squabbles,

which is... To kill the hoover's? Just catch a fade. Just like win or lose, run hands. But you don't think that's kind of like a coat? I mean, it could be. It could be, but that's always what he said. It's never like, oh, you need to do...

That's him, and I hate saying this, but that's kind of him giving himself a participation trophy, right? But it's a lot of people that have used intimidation tactics in the hood, in the streets, in the size and bravado, like trying to scare people out of fights. For sure. And then once that shit doesn't work and you actually got to go to work.

A lot of bullies don't got hands because they never really had to get down. They've used their size and their weight and just bullying, pushing or throwing. But when you actually got to really throw them things, that's when you see. Well, and that's why you have so many rappers who will rap about, being able to whoop your ass

and then like almost zero of them have ever done a celebrity boxing match. But Crip Max whole thing has always been I do destruction on my enemies. That doesn't refer to beating ass is what like when he's talking about that, right? That's like promotion. That's like brand promotion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

For sure, absolutely. You, you and a few others y'all are the ones that take a literal you know, that's just, you know. No, no, regardless of like, like, regardless of, you know, the, the authenticity. authenticity of it, that's always been what he's pushed. Like, you threatened to beat people up.

Not really. Like you're there, I'm a whoop your ass. Or this is that. You just tell us about you. You're going to run them out of L.A. And you really don't got chunk of him like that. That's a response. That's a response.

I'm not going out of my way. That's when people get at me. What? You match your vape to your shirt? It just happened to be like that. That's like some Cameron shit, bro. It just happened to be like that. Wait, before we feel like it for Munchy's buzzball.

That's fine. But before we, let's just like, stay on the Krip Mac thing. if you were his manager, like, what would you tell him to do fighting-wise? Because there's a part of me that almost feels like, you know what? He should do every fight that you can get. And if you lose,

whatever, and if he gets 10 losses in a row, whatever, bro, just like, you know, like, it is what it is, right? Like, just do it. You got to train for real. How much training has he done? Well, okay, that's a good point. But also what I'm saying is basically that, like,

he, what I'm saying would be totally invalidated if he got like a brutal knockout. Yes. You know, so I don't want to fully. But it's almost like it's taken away from like the, his whole run, his whole motion,

like losing all these fights. It's like the opposite of what you're promoting or portraying. Well, this was the first paid one. Okay, like, remember when we're kids and like there's the kid, there's somebody who's six feet tall and fourth grade or whatever? And like, so automatically when you play in hoop, they're the center because they're the tallest. Yeah, and then everyone can.

catch up and they're not raw like that anymore. He has the he has the size to dominate. He just needs the the fundamentals and the skills. Rampage in his corner. I feel like he has the- Oh, Rampage was in his corner? Well, Rampage is supposedly training him now. He's like done training sessions with Rampage.

He quit because he was tired. Yeah. In the second round. That also requires what? Like, there's three one-minute rounds. Where does conditioning start in the motherfucking kitchen? Not drinking three days before the fire. When I did that interview.

with him he was drinking. Yeah, it's your diet. That does not seem wise. Although Jason Love was like mainlining whiskey before he fought you. That's fair. However, his slight size and strength advantage seemed like it outdid the alcohol, yeah. But when somebody named Butterbean out-endurances you. For the record, that's sad. Butterbean Jr. Junior Butterbee out-endurance you.

I have more stamina than you. He looks like a little fucking bowling ball. Keeping in mind, they literally had to create a new, format for Butterbean senior and like he was doing four or five round fights he wasn't fighting in the normal league he was kind of like damn your exhibition type shit

he had the belt there actually was a belt for the bracket they created for him but he started off in those little small little things and was knocking everybody out it's like yeah backyard brolly yeah but I don't know man Krip Mac I feel like he could be pivoting somewhere but it ain't boxing and it ain't

doing what he used to do bro Hey, listen I got doughboys Oh God I do I think Are we all in agreement That that would be in a

Like the most exciting fight On both They ain't got to agree I think they have pretty similar Like High weight Body composition You know

That being said Krip Mac Has a lot of experience He's been hit a lot of times In them jail cells And I'm not saying That like You know

From everything I heard from people he didn't fare terribly well in his prison fights. But that being said, Do-Boy said himself, he never been in a fight since he was, like, in high school. I mean, I just feel like, it feels like everything is, like, pretty much equal between them

besides a lot of experience and probably some deserved, earned toughness that Krip-Mack has gotten through all these years. And Do-Boy, I just feel like is a big ball of dough, quite literally. Honest opinion. It seemed as if a Krimack going there in this objective is let's get this out the way instead of let me fuck him over.

Mm-hmm. Right. I agree with that. No, yeah, 100%. So, and I bet any kind of much, speaking of bed, we'll get to that later. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we go get that later. Preliminary stage.

Speaking of the Krip mat. We need that. No, no, no, no, no. But we're going to keep it right here. We, but we're going to get to that. But I got doughboy and he ain't going to. take it. Oh, he's a custard. I need another opponent. Like, well,

what's the pathology of Doe Boy, though? He always is very overconfident, right? He's like, I'm going to put hands on spouty face. I can see Doeboy getting hit twice and be like, I had no idea how much it hurt. Like, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Oh, my ribs. Everything is a big

surprise to him. Yeah, yeah, he gets shocked. He hits me with his fist. Like, yeah, that's boxing. The audacity of those fists. I feel like on a personal level that I thought I feel like I learned a lot about Doboy in kind of seeing what's been going on with him and the girl stuff. That shit was funny. I'm not going to go fully in depth about everything that we now know about this.

But for the record, that girl who was calling in, I don't know why she's still trying to be my friend. She's like, trying to be cool, like trying to read that. She's like, I want to read it. Yeah, you want to read it right now? I want you to read it and then read what he responded. in the chat today. Oh yeah, yeah, because I did send it, didn't I? Oh, yeah.

I was up in a wee-wee hours crying. Apparently there's impending fades, correct? Okay, she messages me. This is the girl that was on the phone the other day. This is so good. I don't think it's cool that Anthony, doughboy, threatened that if I wasn't, that if it was another time,

he would have a home girl do something to me. What about what he did to me? If you met me, you would feel bad. I said, do you think he's dangerous? I'm starting to worry as well. Now, how serious were you in that? Not serious. I was just trying to bait info out of her.

I just wanted to tell me how scared she was to him or something. She says, I don't want to be part of a game. I want to have a sincere conversation. I want to believe that deep down, you're a good person and won't play around with me. I don't think he's dangerous. I think he's just sloppy and dishonest. It was pretty humiliating when you guys were talking about me. She caught your sarcasm.

Yeah, probably. I don't think so. She didn't want to be played with. She said, I don't want to be played with it. She's trying to appeal to his humanity, which she doesn't know, doesn't exist. Because when she says, I want to believe that deep down you're a good person and won't play around with me, it's just like, what? Have you watched the show? What reason do I have to care about what a random person is?

who I haven't even seen what this person looks like besides the phone being flashed at me for a split second Like I don't care what you think about me why are you why do I why am I supposed to be your shoulder to cry on? Okay, could you go to No voice responses after you know what he said in response that That shit is funny I was like bro it's too late to be laughing it's loud Oh shit hey bro um fuck too early oh wait that's too early too early Yeah that was like 3 30 in the morning morning, huh? Man.

Me? Oh, he responded at 3.30 in the morning. Yeah. After that, here's two responses. Oh, okay. He said, that crazy B-word need to accept the fact that she got played by a fat end word, all caps. She's starting to piss me off, to be honest.

And now it's up. My B-word want to scrape her. She should kind of probably chill, evil devil-head emoji. What? Okay, Chief Keefe. Yeah. The other one that he posted, it was like, I'm kind of. Oh, yeah, he keeps going.

Is this she like 57 years old? 51. I'm inclined to dare at him. I didn't know. No, no, no, no. There's an age limit for this ride, buddy. If you're older than me, you better be like really something special. But that statement is what showed me, alerted me to like, oh.

What? When he's a psycho? That I felt like it was. was a play. Okay, but he also said, she will get her head cracked. I'm trying to spare the B word. I'm tempted to dare 22 to bring the B on

so I can embarrass her. I said, I'm cool. Yeah, that's why you think it's a play. You didn't see that one? I thought that's what you was talking about. That's why.

And after that, and after that I put, he talked about getting this girl, I said, look, I said in the Linwood Jill address. I said, you go visit your girl right here. Oh, that's what the address was.

I was wondering why I was wondering. I was like, yo, this old white lady lives in Linwood? What the fuck? I assumed that Munchy was like trying to order a Uber and fucked it up. That's what I thought when I saw that address. That's what they hope the females at. That's the county jail right here.

Okay. I'm on here, bro. Yeah, you go visit your girl right there. I mean, I feel like we can openly talk about what Doobo was talking about this weekend because he didn't tell us not to talk about it. But we talked about it on the Monday show. About his like threesome dreams?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. I saw you guys talk about the Polly thing and all that shit. I mean, And, okay, I had this vision of doughboy where I thought that he was like a good guy who was just like incapable of understanding all of the dynamics that you have to understand

to make it in this world. Just a lovable near do well. Exactly. Yeah. I thought that he was like, had a heart of gold in a way. And especially watching all this stuff play out with the girls and realizing how messy he's being with all that shit. and then contrasting that with the fact that

he was just on this show talking about how he spent a whole weekend super sad because he thought that he was going to die alone and then seeing like him get a girl in his life who seems like she really cares about him would be down to ride it out through the good times and the bad that's my read on her.

She seemed like a pretty decent person and to see the fact that he seems like he's really like kind of just like immediately going into the mode of taking it for granted and pushing at the limits of what this girl's willing to offer and really just kind of sabotaging what seems like the best relationship that he's probably going to come across in the near future. I feel like my vision of who he actually is is changing and now I think he's kind of evil. He, he's trying to, he want to find himself. He's trying to, he want to find himself. He got an identity crisis, bro.

I didn't need prices. And now he attaching himself to Munchy. That's what you feel? Don't mimic me. Is he really like trying to like be, oh yeah, because he was saying that you guys could be like A, B, and Dean.

We're the best duo ever. Five days a week. We need a pod five days a week. I feel like he tried to do that with Krip Mac too, and it's just like, Crip Mac won. Doeboy. Dope was trying to, like, form a duo

with Krip Mac too. He's an opportunist. Like, he's an opportunist. And if it's beneficial for him, he's going to go there. You know what I mean? Just like his glazing you. Like the glazing, he's going towards

whatever could benefit him most and do whatever it takes. And that's why I think all this shit to me is now starting to seem calculated. Like that last play, I think he sent that bitch. I said that from the beginning. That was my first instinct.

I don't know anymore, but that was my first time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Rios, you got to think, who would think he's going to open a message with somebody with 300 followers? Yeah, even I feel pathetic, having done that. I get like hundreds of DMs a day.

Like, the fact that, that I saw that is kind of crazy and the fact that they even responded also kind of crazy. So like I don't think it was a calculated play. I think that he actually hurt this girl, the other girl. I brought, by smashing? Rios. That's it, right?

Misleading her. Misleading her. I think he was making her think that they had something legit going on relationship-wise because he was trying to fuck. And then she found out they had a girlfriend. She too old to be filing for romance scams. The first scams. The first time. The first time

I was over there. I'm almost sure there's the woman that pulled up like all before I left. Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Like, like, this ain't a play. That's a real person.

No. With a heart of gold. She's very sensitive. Like that she's so, so hurt that she's going to reach out to somebody she don't know over Doe Boy. And then Doe Boy girl is the one that got rejected from your shit.

But you got, be suspicious of his motives because, yeah, she reached out to me, but like, she reached out to me because she wants to expose him for cloud and to attempt to, like, sabotage his life, right? Well, this is why I, my initial thoughts of it being in play is this fool's an actor. He knows a lot of other actors. What movie he acted? So many words are used for dope, boy, that don't really exist in reality, comedian actor. Because he, he definitely is, he's involved with people.

that have he probably has a sag card and shit like that he's involved yeah he's sagging all right his tities are sagging but no um that that was my thought like oh okay there's a possibility in his head he's like oh i got girls fighting over me this is going to make me look awesome people are going to think this is cool you can't be eor and this and don't even match you know what i mean like you can't be this woe as me and then be behind the scenes just like totally take an advantage of everything and then that makes you really really realize why like well if you wanted to be in a relationship you probably could have got into a relationship for all these years it's not like you weren't meeting women or going out and like

finding your way into having conversations with women it's just like it seems like you've consistently fucked up what were probably pretty good opportunities and like obviously this is true for all of us if if all of us were single for a year i farmoed a couple of them yeah we're all gonna bang probably you know a dozen maybe i don't know i'll probably a dirty dozen in a year. Easy. Actually, probably way more than that. But like, you know that, probably a lot of those girls would be good chicks that I just didn't really care for that much or just wasn't really that interested in. But Do-Boy seems like he's like, you know, he should appreciate having a good girl that wants to fucking take care of him. And he doesn't.

That's because you give it him more credit. He's like a poverty pimp. You know what I mean? Chilly bull pipping. Going after the most poor people and trying to get their money. Oh, that's a special type of pimp that only pimps the home. homeless. Well, they call pastors poverty pimps. You know what I mean? So like he's going after like the lowest most hurt and then he's using sympathy and empathy from everybody else to get you to pay attention to him. Then when behind the scenes, he's like, man, fuck all this shit.

But I'm about to get over on everybody. Rios, you know a lot about like psychology and different mental illnesses and conditions. What you described earlier is going going from Eeyore to feeling yourself super hard. That's bipolar disorder personified. But bipolar is not. controlled. Well, but he got, he got, he got, he got by, he's diagnosed on paper. Correct.

And the things he does are strategic, you know, it's like he wants more and more, even once he gets like a girl. Then all of a sudden he wants to push at the limits and be like, ooh, I want threesomes. I want to cheat. I want to have a poly relationship, whatever. Like, I'm not even going to look up what poly means, but I'm going to suggest it to the girl.

Probably like really, really confuse her. He, okay, yesterday he damn near it much. You correct me if I'm wrong. He damn near said he. that he would be down for her fucking on other dudes. No, he didn't really mean that. He did say that, though, right? He would be crushed.

Hey, look, listen, bro. He's trying to, he, he's trying to, he, he, he, he won a public image, a persona to match this, this, uh, podcast, uh, persona he's trying to put on. He, he's trying to, he's trying to find yourself, bro, tell him. He, I know it's crazy trying to find yourself knocking on 50. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I know it's crazy, but, but that, that's just what it is, bro. And then hanging around.

People battle rap ass lush. People are stuck in their adolescence, you mean? Be team ass Munchy. Now he bleeding shit, right? Oh, yeah. And then porn star-ass motherfucking Adam. Now he thinks he could be the first big boy porn star. All these different things.

He pulled from all these, you know what I'm saying? And he's trying to find himself. I don't think Munchi would be able to handle being around Doba that much. No, I don't either. No, no, no, no, no. Honestly. Although he does kick it with him quite. My personality, I'm always the last person to be saying, fuck this person, everybody

and they gave up on. That's always been like, I always been like that. But I also feel like you, people like do things that you don't like, and it's kind of easy for you to just turn it off and be like, all right, I was fucking with you, but nah, not anymore. And then I real, I real, I real, I rode a little boy he ain't. He, he, like, level out when he around me. Like, you know what I'm there? Oh, yeah?

What do you gain from these interactions? Whenever, whenever we on podcast together. Either he half-ass normal. Whether he's on Mars over money or at his house on my life. Are you like getting paid to go over there and stuff? Does he like pay you? I'm on my life. I'm monetizing.

Okay, okay, okay. It's on yours, not his? No, it's on both. But I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go live on his. Because he went, he went live with fucking Spottieface. Yeah, 15 viewers, bro. I'm not talking to 15 people. I'm, so I'm.

I can do that real life. I can walk outside of 5.50 people and be like, come on, listen to me. Listen to me. I go to the turf for that. I go to the tur for that. I go to the park and he's like 15 homies hanging out. You're getting free buzz balls. No, no, no, no, I'm going to turn his shit up.

But wasn't the problem that the camera quality was really bad on the Sputtyface thing he did? He got an old-ass, he got a new web cam, but he had an old-ass computer. I can't even respond to Spuddy-Face because he put out a frigging 45-minute video. I didn't even know what the hell he said. Another one? About me, about me when I called him out for being a hypocrite, and then he had to turn off the comments because everybody was agreeing with me. Hey, that's pretty bad.

What made you apologize? Because I just took it too far when I was going off on about being a hypocrite about the media conversation. I got so turned up that I interjected the thing about the DP, which I don't say stuff like that. You know, I don't like to make light of that kind of thing. Also, I could potentially take away from like the rest of the really the points you made, which had validity.

But then when you do that, it kind of. That was too much. Yeah. I don't know what he said about it, but I feel bad about it. You know how you like, like you run and you score a touchdown. And then when you keep running, you run into that little wall. That's what you did. You already did.

Like you won with the other. Yeah, a nice little performance there. Instead of having to take a celebration period. You don't got to tee back the mascot after that. And I said it wrong. I said you DP'd your own cousin. Then I had to change. It was totally ruined it.

Yeah, but that was that was extra. You already didn't accomplish the, you know what I'm saying? You have, that was nicely put. It was like on some Brian still causing arguments type of shit. I should be a lawyer. No, fuck that. I'll be gone. They'll be free me.

You don't think I'd be a good lawyer? I was actually, that was like some of the most you apologizing unsolicited like that. I was taking a back. Whenever I apologize, you always got to be like, man, Adam, I was really hyped when you apologize. Whenever, like the three times. Yeah, infinite.

That's crazy that the standard is so low. I'll do a top 20 times Adam apologize list. You won't be able to. Bang on YouTube. You won't be able to. No way. I thought party got pressed through the DM about something you said and

I bring it to your attention I said apologize I apologize what I said? You said fuck God or some shit fuck God What? Damn that's crazy I forgot you it said something bro it's been so many months and so many episodes but

So that's two He don't remember So many more I apologize to house phone Three For how many of these apologies did you mean though I meant all of them to a certain extent Well actually

to it's hard. You know, sometimes you're like kind of thinking the back of your head like, man, I'm like 30% sorry. Yeah. But I ain't the whole way, but I'm still saying sorry. If you apologize because it's politically correct. Empty apologies? That it ain't a real apology.

If you really feel apologetic, then it's a real apology. Did you feel heat behind that, though? Like, because you, you teetering into grounds that don't involve you, you know what I mean? I don't really know what he said, but yeah, that's why, well, it's not like I was, like, I was, like, worried that something's going to happen. I just felt bad about, like, I went outside of what I want to do, which I don't want to, like, clown somebody for getting DP.

I, for sure, in my head was like, here comes the lesson. If he's an eye. The time has come. Look, if I look down like an op, yeah, I'm going to clown you a bugging DP, but if I look at you as somebody I'm, like, in any way cool with, then I don't want to do that. Hey, Rios, no disrespect to that particular community, but they invite so many people in today business.

If you would have said the same thing, You said right now about a different community. It's head different, but they invite too many people into their business. For him to say that and then he feels some heat about it, like the D.P. Yeah, yeah. There would be zero heat, bro. They invite too many people into their business. But then the other thing is, like, I was misunderstood because you said that that Spody

had mentioned Adam. Right. And he didn't. Well, okay. And so, like, this is like Adam, like, Adam, like, and then Adam, like, jumped off the porch. And it was, like, kind of unworn. It's like almost like a way, wait, let me finish. And so it was unwarranted and it was like going a hit dog hollers, you know what

to me? And so Adam is like going in on Spody and Spody never even directed it to Adam. I think that all that he came towards him for no reason. I still don't recall him saying sending him about him. Honestly. People were confused. I was referring to the Friday, members only stream, not the Monday news stream. That's where I was, bro, I was on both of them.

I don't recall it at all. Yeah, I was there as well. Oh, it was. No, no, no. It was, no. Oh, you're talking about the news on Friday? Me, Jay Hood, Spody. It was a week before.

It was literally the week, it was me, Spody, Jay Hood, and Munchy. Were you there, too? Yeah, I'm always on Friday. Yeah, yeah, you were there, too. You were there, too. So you're talking about two weeks ago? He was on Moose.

He was, that Friday, he was on Moose. Yes, correct. When we were talking about Moose's music and all that. And then Monchie was like, nah, you didn't say that. He didn't say Adam. And you correct it much. He's like, nah, he said Adam.

Okay. He didn't say Adam, bro. Two things. Two things. Listen, listen, listen, listen. This has been discussed so many times now. Most said he went through the Monday transcript and then say that. And then at Friday, the Friday closest to the Tuesday show, it wasn't said when it was me, you, Rios and in Sputty face.

So you're saying it was a previous woman when it was all moves about him being the North Day. No, it wasn't that one. What I was referring to and because this is my record. election and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But my recollection was that first I brought up, I brought up Adam Adam's phone call with four extra or four extra had hit Adam multiple times and was like trying to get a hold of him when Adam had sent the message about, hey, Jay Hood told me that there's this rumor going around about a potential M investigation regarding you. And I was like, I don't think that Adam was intentionally trying to bring. He,

to or imply that you were, that 4XRA was guilty, anybody would want to know that. Anybody would want to know the details of a potential investigation of such a lofty magnitude. And then, I want to know about any time anybody's asking. Correct. 100%. That's what I was right. I would have hit him up to tell him about things that are way less significant than that. And what's also important to note is that I didn't say anything on the internet about Jay Hood telling me that.

even until he actually got arrested for it. Yeah, that first video. Yeah. Now, I don't know if that takes... I think what I remember him saying was Adam's awesome bullshit too. I don't want to talk about that. Adams be on some bullshit too. That's the phrase I remember him saying,

which I've said several times. Now, also, even if he wasn't directly referring to Adam, Adam was doing the exact same shit that he was tripping on other people doing. No, Adam was reacting to... the shit that people had done. Those people did their research and they did their work and they, and so Spody was going in on them like,

you're covering and pulling shit and this and Adam just pretty much rewatch this shit and just put added shit to it. Well, that was one video I did where I basically like said a lot of the details from the rap news and street politics video about it, but like the first video that I did was me basically

just talking about the fact that he got arrested and then just including a few more details. sort of speculating on or whatever. Either way, I don't think that like as YouTubers that we should be picking apart like the littlest details about like, well, I'm a good YouTuber because I do this and you're bad because you you set a rumor that you heard and I'm just working from the police report. So therefore you set a rumor and that's bad and I'm good because I didn't do that.

It's like I don't buy into that shit. I feel like we're all making content. There is bad behavior that should be called out. But people trying to like universally like blanket condemn people because they take part things like saying a rumor that they don't know is 100% confirmed? No, see, that's not even what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the fact that like the energy got shifted towards Adam. No, I get that. I get that.

That was like kind of not the case. You're right, to a degree, because that wasn't the primary targets. He was mainly talking about Rap News Free Politics and Tony. Other guy. Yeah, yeah. But he was mentioning not feeling the salacious headlines, not feeling the thumbnails. Was that part of the dialogue? But guess what?

You ain't going to fill it when the kid close to home. All right. No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Rabinville Street Politics just dropped, you know what I'm saying? Some, with my ex-girlfriend, little bro, he got, he got killed at the tire, tire shop, you know what I'm saying, with his two kids in the back seat. Oh, my God.

I didn't even watch that one because the title sounded so depressing. Yeah, but, you know, he got the, he don't get, he's a pretty boy, nigga, he fly, but he got the face tasking. That's how he is out here. You know what I'm saying? He got the little. So was it like they thought he was a member and he just, you know? Like, like, right.

You, he banged on them. He didn't believe him. Right. You looked apart, whatever. However it went, but how he reported it, it's the facts. So I can't be mad at rap. Rob News Street, politics. Rap News Street politics.

Because it's the fact. Like, like, and I know, I know for a fact that he do his homework and it'd be, he going off real, real documents, and it ain't like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing. He pulled from the sky or eye cloud. or something, he went around the corner and, Hey, what you know about this, hey? Or it was on club, I was gathering information.

But the whole thing is that, like, when you watch true crime, body camera footage, these documentaries that attempt to tell you about different killings and stuff like that, I'm often left with the feeling of like, yo, this is unbelievably compelling content when I'm watching a father realizing that his daughter has been slaughtered in her bedroom

and he's dropped into his knees and he's crying and the, cop's body camera captures it and somebody puts in a documentary it's like on one hand this is crazy like I can't look away because this is like the most intense fucking footage I ever seen in my life but at the same time I can't help but feel like oh my god if that was me or if that was somebody in my family or whatever like wouldn't you be so upset about somebody making this video but they're playing by the rules you can file you can file freedom of information requests and get this footage and you can't really judge the

YouTubers who are doing it because it's it's commonplace now. No, that's what that's his that's his prerogative. That's his job and he's he's he doesn't have a direct relationship with anybody that I believe he's that we know yeah that we know of who we talk about rap news rap news like whatever is so he's anonymous he's done a good job keeping his identity secret even though he's told me that he's kind of down to he's got a great whisper voice and so there's there's information that we have on somebody else that's not being talked about it was being kept under wraps. How do we choose in between which ones that you do talk about?

But in reality, though, Rios, I didn't know that did, did y'all think that I don't know what I'm talking about right now? I do. I do. I do know what you're talking about. Because why is that held with regard and close to the chest and keeping that on the low? Well, I think what's supposed. What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what? What's what you're talking about? The, the, the accident. The, the, the, the, for extra incident? No. Oh, wait. The, talk about, tell me, tell my, tell me. do do uh... motherfucker making us guess

no the car accident poetic federal oh oh oh why did why did that get held you know what I mean that's a good

that's why do we hold that information that's an interesting honestly I didn't think it was newsworthy Flacco tapped in maybe a week ago and said

they got in this car accident and I was not saying this so that you could say that right I was trying to keep it left I don't think there's anything that needs to be secret about but like

and he gets in a car accident it's Basically, like, a car hits another car, and he gets hit by the car that got hit, and he sent a video to us of, like, one of the cars on fire. It looked insane. And he was actually coming to do an interview before that. He was going to do an interview, but then he, like, I guess, hurt his wrist or something in that. But his fat-ass word about his wrist? Is he all these picnickers is so soft?

So your wrist stopped you from coming to an interview? I don't know. He had some kind of injury that made him not want to come. He needs to stay up about it. I didn't post about it because I just didn't even really think it was like that salacious, but then one of the people died. That's what I'm, but that's- So, I mean, I still don't really think it's that salacious.

I think poetic flaco involved with a five-car pile-out where somebody died, it's doles. Yeah, I know. I mean. And that's what I'm saying is like, if he hit the, if he was at fall, if he hit the person, now we're talking. The way he told me was that he was just in the. accident but that he didn't really play like a major role in it. Yeah.

Everybody, fucking injured and one passed away. Everybody can't stand that fool. I'm not talking for you. I don't want to talk of everybody, but he is the middle of a lot of shit. He's very, a very maligned figure.

A maligned figure. And so that would make news. If, oh, because you can spin that, how you spin the other thumbnails. Fucking flaco in the death. Flocko is like catching his first body.

Yeah. It's on fire, but you didn't choose to do that with flaco. You know what I mean? You extended flaco certain grace, at least seemingly so. That you don't extend to a street dude. And it's like, do you devalue like what they're going through versus what flakos going to. If you came to me or you weren't really.

You like that, huh? Hello. No, okay. If you came to me and said, it's hard for me to think of somebody that would actually make sense for this example. But I'm not going to use it because you recently spare somebody. But I mean, I spare people all the time. That's all I'm saying. It's like there is stuff I know about that

I'm posted by it. Honestly, the Faggo thing and never even crossed my mind to make a video about it because it wasn't until my ex-girlfriend sucks a dick in his national headline. You can just said that I,

that Grito, I guess, maybe got his chain snatched at one point and I told them like, hey, don't post it. But there's way, I came in and it broke that news, though. Remember? And I didn't say it.

At the end, I was like, I said it. Like, the Grito's over the chain. No, you don't remember that's it? You said it on the show? No, no. I said it before, but I wasn't going to say his name.

and shit and then at the end you're like who yeah yeah i said who it was yeah i guess part of it is that like i don't think no jumper always needs to be on the cutting edge of like shitting on or not not shitting on because like a chain snatching is such like a you know it's like is that real news it's not it's like different that somebody getting arrested for a murder also like okay in order to make the four extra titles salacious you didn't have to do anything you just had to say what happened in order to make the flaco thing salacious you have to kind of lie in the the title because if the title is just like flaco gone to car accident and one of the people ended up dying a few days later or whatever i mean that's not really oh no that's like poetic flaco

involved in fatal car crash question mark and that's what you put him in a question mark you put him in a casket on the title in the thumbnail so it looks like he died a big ass casket no put his belly on a staring wheel that would do that would be the thumbnail that's what he would do was it was it in north North Dakota or out here. Yes, sir, it was in North Dakota. Yeah, so how the fuck do you even get in an accident? There's like seven people that live in the whole state. I mean, they probably have legit.

But what I'm just trying to say is there is discernment somewhere. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. Discernment. Nobody whatever to know how that. Like, where, like, oh, I don't say everything about rappers or whatever, but I say stuff about this. And I was just trying to figure out what's not like I'm breaking the news. You know, it's like it's in the news.

But I think that you have more of an allegiance to Flacco and for, then for X, I don't think it's across the board universal, like against... Four extra did me dirty, so. That's how he feels? Maybe I do have a little bit of a little something resentment, but none of the serious. I don't even want to get... I think I might know what you're talking about.

Well, well... He befriended me. I mean, he was pissed off. After the way the fireworks thing was covered, he was super pissed off. Oh, more extra, right? Yeah, he should have been. Yeah, like, you got pissed off.

Not because... But how? but how do you cover that? I'm saying, like, not with multiple people that are from communities that don't get along

with his laughing, right? But I was supposed to change the whole show. I'm a regular host. I'm a regular host. I work here. So you think it's not going to come up?

No, no, no, I don't think. And what it do come up. Munchy gets kicked off the show because for Extra Blue's handoff. That was what I would have had to do. Yeah,

it doesn't make sense. You're absolutely right. And pro my recollection, wasn't it the episode that King Pill was on? And King Pill was actually made. He was already scheduled. So it's like, okay, does King Pill who was flying into town?

Does he get his flight canceled? Like, does he have to change his whole itinerary because someone else blew their hand off? Because they happened to not like, no, no, I understand that. King Pill is not them doles. I think I've, like, painted the picture right there of, like, how I was being asked to be cautious with somebody's feelings who was literally, like, day-to-day obsessed with, like,

beefing with people. And I was, like, supposed to, like, really go out of my, way to protect his feelings and I don't do that I think what in a perfect world what four extra I don't think he would have got mad if when jokes were being made if you were like yo chill the fuck out that's the homie huh that's so gay what you just said and what you just described is so fucking way but I'm just saying like you serious I get it even I'm like that's not even it's not in the plausible you're hot you munchy don't be talking about four extra like that dog yeah no literally that's my boy no I was just in the phoneies

I was just, I could talk on this all the time. I was just in the phone. He's like, that's my boy. I'm just saying in a perfect world, if you would have, uh, yeah, I get that. But I'm saying what does that not make sense that he would want, he specifically said that like he would want to be defended. I feel like the correlations is not lining up, like lining up there.

You know what I mean? Like what I'm trying to say. And why is that? Because he, it was, that was. He might not, he might not have been in a place to overstand the dynamic. makes her play. And he thought Adam was more of a friend than what he was.

Double, there it is. I want to move to that. But to an abusive, manipulative extent. Actually, yes. Yeah, unfair extent.

Actually, yes. Unfair extent to an unfair extent for show. But you've already acknowledged. I was giving him, like, wild passes. I didn't interview B.

Braes at the height of his celebrity. Oh, for him. I was about to say, that's some fuck. Listen. Uh, uh,

uh, uh, uh, was not a nothing like this go make of like a 40 Crip angry. Right. Like he he went to their hood. They don't give, he's not on a day, they, they don't give a fuck about him like that. That was like, this pissed him off, but whatever.

But look, he's, so, what's the word? Discernment. What is that I mean? I don't like to miss his words. Uh, discretion. Yeah, it's okay, discernment, you know. On a couple of occasions for a couple of people and I've been near and I watched it. Okay, he did it with the Stan G thing. You know what I'm saying?

It took shit out of interviews, right? Okay, and then the B. Braves thing. B. Braves, he entered the internet via four-exers, recapping the fight they had and became viral. And he was on the list probably to get an interview. He was. He was locked in. He took him into consideration.

No, I ain't going to do it. Four-ex'am my friend. Well, four-exter asked me not to. Okay. And then you already had it planned on the schedule to go to, Pomona and go do the thing out there with King Pima. And I canceled that because they went to the 40s. You're not from the 40s.

It don't have nothing to do it. So they went to the 40s. I don't think it's a good idea. He went too far. Huh? So you took this man into consideration a lot of times. You know what I'm saying? Yes.

Think about this. Let's say that Brandon. Brandon's on the, you know. Oh, no. Pooh. Who is on the podcast? Poo's cool, whatever. Poo gets in a beef with Munchy.

All of a sudden, they can't be around each other. They don't get along. Oh, okay. Whatever. I don't fucking care. Now Poo is going to Englewood with his blower out, going to Munchy's block, talking about how you're going to turn Munchy into a pack.

All right. Now, now I think at this point, my relationship with you needs to change because I don't think that I should necessarily be encouraging the kind of behavior that realistically is going to get somebody smoked, which that's kind of what it felt like at that time. King Pill and G. Uno were, at the time, it was alleged, going to the role in 40s to shoot a disc song against For Extra.

And I just was like, I don't think that's something that I want to really be endorsing. Also, that was the end of the episode where he was turning up off the shrooms and like wound up low-key trying to get in your face at the, after the pod. That was the same day. That wasn't turning up. How did you find out? That was misdirecting anger. It was all over the internet at the time.

They were doing honest stories and shit, yeah. It was right after I went to New York with King Pill. What a weird little chapter of my life. But per Munchy's, what you just said before that, though, all the incidents where Adam was extending him way more grace than he does to normal people, that's low-key conditioning for extra to have that expectation. It's a false sense of security or a false sense of reality. Yes.

I should have made my principles a little bit more clear earlier on. And you also yourself, Adam, have said, that a lot of the dudes, particularly street guys, when they get put on, they latch on and they're like, oh, my God, because it's life-changing for some of these dudes. They haven't had someone that's putting that much money in their hand or giving them that much exposure. And they think that your friendship's a lot more solidified and deeper than you do. They don't know.

I've done this a lot of times before. It might be the closest they've ever been to a white boy. There you go. Everything that was just said. You know what I mean? Take it in. It might be the last time. I'm glad you all said that right.

And that's, I ran across Vlad and Ari Spears, asked him, are we friends? And Vlad said, oh, we're friendly. Right. We're not friends. But over the years, if you had asked Vlad, if he was friends with Ari Spears or Busy, he would definitely have said yes. I think that like once the friend, once he sees them mistreat the friendship or the relationship

from his perspective, then it's like, it forces him to kind of be a little bit more real and be like, all right, were we really friends? Like, someone like Vlad, I'm very comfortable saying that I am friends with Vlad. We talk, like, on the phone or via text, like, a bunch of times per week. Like, I feel like that qualifies as, like, actual friendship. But, you know, if you just, like, if you do a podcast with somebody once a month, yeah, you feel like you have a relationship.

But if that's the only time that you talk, yeah, your relationship is entirely bent on the business. That's a coworker. Okay, okay, okay. Now, now, now, it's a two-part thing. I just want to point out, I see that whack. He weaponized the word brother a lot, right? My brother, like, he did it, he do it with Aiden. He do it with you.

He's doing it with academics. He did it with K-slay. Anyone that's in a position of power. Yes, he weaponized the word brother, right? And then. He's very like doughboy in that way. It's just, it comes off less pathetic when he does it. He's more manipulative because he'll wait to you in an effed up situation

where the world against you, he'll take a stance with you, and then now you're on forever. Doboy will take himself and put it under your wing. No, dog boy should have to come. Like normally you take someone under your wing. He'll come on. He's kind of like up. That's what he was doing, a brand,

and that's what he's doing him, luncheon. But people need to, you know, identify, why who they, who they, uh, podcast friends are. They friends, uh, brother. Yeah, because the lines. Yeah. No, no, because people weaponize him. Yeah.

And it's, uh, they putting brother, like if, if that's the case, you're basically saying he's putting brother on benefit. Like it, it has to be beneficial and upward benefit. Essentially you owe me now. Like, no, no, it's like a closeness. Like, yeah. Like, yeah. So, so, no, no, no, no.

He, you're saying to what I'm saying. Yes. He weaponize it. Correct. Like he'll wait to the world against you, and then he'll say it with you when the world against you. Remember what I did all this for you? Remember when I said you were my brother?

But that's more than just saying I'm your brother. That's like actually having your back and helping you out. No, no, no, no. Look, our for instance, Adam, is this you in a car, Jack? No. Hey, I didn't ask you that back when they said this and this and this and this and this. He's like, well, what they're basically like puts you on notice.

I'm like, well, hey, I'm going to start talking about this. shit you don't want to talk about. You keep asking about my dick being out. Same thing with Ag. Hey, hey, Act, hey, I didn't take that stance when they said this about you back when the allegations. That is. That's a real deal of manipulation.

Yes, because you're my brother. Yeah. So, so, no, see, I would, he weaponize it, right? But in other people, they is, and then with the foreshore thing, I think he forced the brother thing on you. And you're like, uh-huh, right, bro. like he forced it on you and you went with it yeah yeah it was forced and and i'm watching all this shit and they think because a nigga vision fucked up i'm not recognizing everything i'm like these

niggis is crazy but you don't think i got perfect sense but what you don't think adam saw benefit in that also though like there was like this dude is the most polarizing he always says it all the time this the biggest the biggest crypt the most polarizing crypt you don't think that there was benefit for adam to have that around for sure i needed I need some stars at that point. You move in the goalpost, bro. I'm talking about niggas. Like, if you're looking at a person in a certain light and all that little shit,

man, don't look at this nigga Adam like a brother because he's an opportunity. He can help you out. Is that your bro for real? No. That's what I'm saying. A lot of these, look at my brother and all that shit. They're trying to forge a friendship by like stating it as being a friendship that is like already further along than it actually is. But to be fair, like, he does that with people all the time.

Kevin Gates, boom, you meet him. Oh, that's my brother. You're my brother. You're my brother. It's like, where are we going, brother? I'm a pro. We're going to fly here. That nigg ain't going nowhere with you, d'clock.

Wack does the same thing all the time and he doesn't even need to use the word that Burbage, brother. Like, he literally did the same shit with me. He tried to take credit for me, not 1,000 percent. Okay. He said, no, no, listen, listen. He literally said he literally was all like, like, I'm the reason why you didn't get fired when you brought all the Crips to No Jumper

with Travis Ford that one time. He said, I convinced Adam not to fire you and you have the audacity to talk about me in a bad way. I don't remember that. I heard him say that shit, but... Yeah, does Adam say that, though? No. Like in front of whack?

I never said that. I don't think he did because my job was never in question of that moment. It's not true. It's not true. It's not true. But he did take credit for it. It was funny, though. You 1,000 percent tried to take credit for it

and tried to manipulate me. into feeling bad for mentioning the future incident and saying that when I didn't even like say whack was what I likened it to I made the compare I agreed with the comparison to the Munchy story. That's it. That was the only thing I did

and he lost his fucking mind. Okay, the thing with Vlad and Ari Spears, right? Like I feel like you have more of a likelihood of becoming Vlad's op than you do his friend. Right? Right. Like so you can be around him doing all you want to do. We're here with Adam. Adam ain't your, like, I don't know what your relationship is.

Adam is a business owner that is, has a platform that's beneficial to everybody, right? Correct. That's the relationship. That's first and foremost. Vlad was telling Ari Spears and the other dude like, I don't care about y'all. I can care less about y'all. They have a business relationship. We have a business relationship.

And even here, like, if you have some kind of mixed sense of what a friendship is, Adam is going to content, like at this point, it should be very transparent to everybody. Like content is going to be content It's good content is keen Vlad had a bar Yeah and believe it or not There's all kinds of people in my life Who are not part of the circus

And I intentionally keep them out And I'm not just talking about my girl And my fucking kid And obviously my girl's kind of part of the circus But like I have friends Like there are people I talk to Every day all day That I've never mentioned on this show

Because they don't overlap With hip hop at all It just would be totally irrelevant Like nobody would care so I don't mention them. And you want a good part, minelize your life to a degree. Yeah,

and I think that's good because, okay, when I came in the game, I hired all people that I was actually friends with, house phone, cam girl, filmers,

et cetera. And it went terribly in the long run. Some of those relationships lasted years and they were good and everything, but like ultimately, the biggest factor was that I couldn't really like manage them or like get them to like work

in the way that I wanted them to work because our friendship kind of made it so that they didn't take me seriously as somebody who was trying to actually manage the platform. And it was only once I started hiring people that I had never met before that we actually started really like moving like a real business. Yeah, because business and friendships don't work. Well, even then, though. But on the podcast, they wanted to feel like we are friends.

And we are, I think friends, but like let's also be real. We're all at really different places in our lives. Like when Lush, like, I mean, Lush is sober now, but like rewind the clock a couple of months. Like what Lush was doing on a Friday night It was just like so different than what I was doing on a Friday night Or what you guys were doing on Friday night Like we're friends but realistically most of the time Our social lives are not gonna overlap facts

But okay but here's the thing when you first When you hired AD and TRL you didn't know them But then you did wind up developing a genuine rapport that became a friendship There was talks of AD being the best man at your wedding and all that shit at one point Like you guys were really close and I feel like after that But don't you think that's weird to be have somebody you meet them for a few years and they're your best man? I mean, not necessarily. It felt like a logical choice at the time, honestly.

Because he just talked about his friends. Also, I don't know. Was he my best man? I don't think I got to the point of like choosing who exactly was going to be each individual role. I don't think I heard best man until like a week ago. I remember there being compos on the pod. He was getting suited and booted for the wedding. Yeah, he was for show flying to Italy with his lady.

I think I learned a lesson right there that. I was taking that friendship to be something that it wasn't. No, I don't, I think it just went bad, bro. Yeah, it went bad because there are snakes. And they decided that they wanted to do something that was entirely self-interested that they always swore that they wouldn't do to me. And then as soon as it became clear to them that it would be advantageous for them to do that, they did that, which is human nature, but also they're bad people.

And I think most of the fans know that at this point. If you were in the same situation and had the same thought of what was going to happen, would you do the same thing? Of what? Going your separate ways if you thought it was more beneficial for you to go your separate way. The thing is, is that...

That's not what caused that, though. It is. That's exactly what happened. Is that they realized that they could kind of come together and present this narrative that they were basically like, you know, being held down by this white man and that they would be able to build their own big platform.

Unfortunately, it panned out that they were not able to build their own big platform and that they've done a pretty shitty job with like everything they've tried to do since then. But I get it. Like they thought they overestimated their own abilities and they overestimated what the market was. I already knew at that time that the market was shrinking

and the podcast and it was becoming extremely oversaturated. They didn't know that. So they thought like, oh, this is brilliant. We're going to dip off and it didn't work out. So, hold on. So let me ask, so, so if there's no less talking to whoever and ready, there is no everybody getting on. No, that's not true, though.

You're actually trying to put this on me. No, no, no, but they... I'm not putting that... Are you... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no. But that's not true. That's not true. They...

Hold on. Wait, no, no. Can I just say... Watching from home. Right? Okay, can I tell you what happened? Because they all acknowledged that they all had already been planning it before that. So that felt like, that was like a good jumping off point for them,

but that was not, like, actually what caused it. It's all... That was the excuse that they used. Right. Because they don't act like, like, like, like, you just a red-haired-st stuff. y'all getting attacked. That's what it felt like. Bro, bro, I wasn't always at the fucking table, right?

Right. So watching from home, it appeared that you was the beginning of that all, beginning of it all because that's the complaint he came with, and then boom. This watching from home, nigger, okay. And then it seemed like T. T. Real, his decision to leave was hard, and he was the last one to like.

In between the rock and a hard place. But then he started talking way more. more shit than AD. After he should. Because it got a reaction from the fans. So, AD, I will say,

AD had a little bit more integrity in that because he didn't really start talking shit that bad until I kind of started popping it back. But T. Rout from like the very beginning was putting all these shitty fake narratives on me. And I had done nothing to him to justify that anyway. Why are you like to start crying like a better wife,

what do you mean? You're trying to put it all over me. You reacted to that. Because, because. It was a traumatizing time for him. Yeah, like that caused a lot of bullshit for me. And the fact that I got blamed for a bunch of shit that wasn't my fault when there is a whole YouTube. When there is a, okay, so I'm not allowed to respond how I want to.

What the fuck is you talking about? You feel a bus. You let him talk. Like, man, no, this thing was all. So he's put it all on me like a batter, bro. Bro, I literally said one sentence. Like I said, you got a let last. I said half a sentence.

In matter of fact, no, that shit did affect me. and the fact that there was already a YouTube channel created prior to him even being aware of the fact that he was getting kicked off the show. That's the reality. That's the, but oh, it's a problem with that? Yeah, I was going to say what's wrong with that? It shows that they were intending. But at the same time, like, if I was going to start a new YouTube channel right now, I might just use an existing. Yeah.

So I don't know. That could have been the case as well. It could have been a preexisting channel that was renamed unlikely, but within the realm of possibility. But the whole thing is what I was saying is, if they truly believe that that was the best opportunity, that was the most beneficial thing for them. If you're in a situation like here, and if Adam is in the same situation,

and you think that moving and doing this is the most beneficial thing for you and it's going to be, and you truly believe that, what's wrong with going that direction? And I believe we all... Nobody thinks there's anything wrong with that. It's painting fake narratives and like acting as if you have a grievance

with the person whose platform you're leaving, even though you don't actually have any reason to have a grievance, but like inventing one because there's an appetite for it from the fans. I would like to present. Feeding the hunger of the fans basically. Yeah, yeah. The fans want you to hate on the person who's platform you left, so you're going to basically fill that gap.

To me, that is like the opposite of integrity. That's you showing that you have no backbone and you'll make content about whatever as long as it's going to sell. But this is the thing. Okay, I believe that we are living in a new age of intellectualism within hip hop. and I'm going to explain to you guys why. Oh, that's a good one. Me and Spodyface, that argument that we had,

I'm not supposed to win that argument. Identity-wise, he's supposed to win that because he's black, he's from the hood, he did 10 years of prison, all these different factors that, like, I feel like in prior generations of hip-hop discourse, I had frequently been let down by watching the people,

judging situations, and, like, really kind of just choosing who was right or wrong based on the identity of the person or who was a more endearing character. And I feel like when I look at that Spodyface situation, when I look at the fact that Vlad is on this bizarre run of like defeating Bousie, Aries Spears, etc. Nori. I just feel like we're kind of like entering into a new world where the fans on average are able to really look at arguments that are taking place and be able to have to have. an honest appreciation for who's winning.

And I don't feel like I got a fair shake in 23 when those dudes left the platform. I think I was just smeared as being like the fucking slave master or whatever. And I feel like that was a anti-intellectual moment for podcasting as a whole. Of course, when I was attacked, that was an anti-intellectual moment. But I did feel like it was so about identity that it got lost, that there was never any real gripe on behalf of them. And as time went by, I started to see that sentiment become much, much more common with the fans.

And I feel like in 2023, the dialogue or the discourse just had not progressed enough at that time. You know the difference between- There's my thesis. 2026 and then you, 2023, use more on a defense and then fast forward now. Offense. Yeah.

That's the difference. And then 2023, everything that was playing out on camera, And then we're not really getting a full gist of things. Like I just explained how it appeared to the general public on how everything unfolded. And then Vlad, all three, he, he's writing all three of them with Nori, or Nori, Gary's in, and Busy. To me in all those situations, Vlad is like pretty clearly in the right. like what nori did to vlad was lame

what ari spears did to glad was lame and what busi did if lad was lame no no no no but but but but but but it's easy to understand how in another generation or another world like where they would be the ones who are getting their side believed anyway like when when norie says Vlad you are culture vulture

and you don't give a fuck about the people that you interview on blah blah blah 10 years ago that was a killer argument that was a viral argument now nobody gives a fuck to be fair this ago that's a corporation That's not an individual person Own the platform like it's way more individualistic

And it's way more easy to pick sides Versus a big platform A channel, a TV station A news station now Vlad is just Vlad This is also like me versus you But this is after decades of Artists who are predominantly minorities Being exploited by the industry

Which is run by predominantly white people This is on the heels of Jerry Heller And all that shit So like that's that's why there's this sentiment and that's why the reaction normally is that like crass. I think you're always trying to justify some bullshit. Right is right

wrong is wrong and yeah okay there's been racism in the past. It's not a justification. I am not responsible for the sins of my father and I'm not responsible for whatever some evil white dude did 40 years ago. I has nothing to do it. No for sure that's the explanation. Just sticking on Vlad I think that talk should have been had with Boisey instead of Eric Spears.

and only because I think Boosie, he didn't mean no malice, he's just misinformed. It ain't like he's a content creator, he's a rapper. You know what I'm saying? So if they would have to say, talk that Ari Spears had, it would have been way better. Okay, but when Vlad had the conversation with Boosie, Busy basically asked him for more money, and then Vlad said, I don't think we're going to be able to necessarily do that, and Boosie hung up on.

This is a person that's done like 40 interviews together. They had a business relationship for like 10 years and he just hung up on him and it's not like Vlad like completely cut off the relationship because of that i think Vlad was still open to working together but i understand why he was offended no no no but i'm saying like uh uh busy was misinformed ery's just think he's uh edy murphy yeah yeah he wasn't misin he was just like overstating his value you know as was harry's the spoiled son trying to go at the dad that's been giving you money yeah and it's like when you're the benefit of the benefactor and you're arguing up you know what I mean like I fed your ass like you know you don't you ain't got I'm the one giving you money you know what I mean like you sure

you need me more than I need you I can find another and so okay go on no Aries had a lot of like big moments and big clips but not compared to Bousie no no no no the thing is I say uh Bousie deserved that sit down versus Aries because Bousie was missed the form based on he's not a creator and he wasn't saying that I'm bigger than life. You owe me this. He's thinking that he's not understanding how the content should go and monetizing wise and you curse every other word and everything might not be green. You know what I'm saying?

It might be yellow. Yellow. The world I don't know. But like, you know what I'm saying? So limited with the monetization, he might not get all his money back. He's not understanding that, bro. He do short films and he do music. Now, this dude, he's showing him comments.

Someone, look, they rock him in the comments. They said they only subscribe because of me. This is what Ari's doing. Yeah, that was a ridiculous argument. Everybody got a commenter that rock would. Yeah, exactly. The ridiculous argument. But to convince yourself that that's like the majority of Vlad's viewers,

and it's not like, you know, like a lot of the Vlad fans were like watching the boosy clips, I know I was. But to act like, that's everybody is like pretty funny. But yeah, I mean, like, but the thing about, Aries just like fucked up a good, opportunity I go and he looks like a bad person and everybody seems like they kind of agree with that and I just feel like I'm more consistently seeing people win arguments or be perceived as winning arguments regardless of their identity class and that makes me feel like hip hop is is growing well they keep using redundant arguments they keep using the same redundant argument oh this oh that it's like

glad is like yeah okay I am that yeah who gives a fuck you know what I mean like I I already told everybody who I am and I survived it. Right. I'm going to survive this. Now hurry up and bring your fat ass on my platform because you owe me one. Because I came here for free. Now you owe me on my podcast. Hold on,

what you're referring to. Okay, so. Harry Spears has to go on his... No, no, that's what they agreed to in the beginning. You come on mine and you come on your... Did you watch it? Huh? This is the new one.

Did you watch it? Did you watch the Aries and Lucy sit down? Or excuse me, Vlad's at them? No, no. Aries and Vlad. Yeah, yeah. That was a great watch. And the really, okay, I felt like Aries looked like an entitled brat during the whole thing. Like that spoiled son.

He was just yelling and moaning and complaining and shit. But the most brutal truth is the fact that when Vlad said that Aries doesn't book black openers for his comedy tours. And Aries got so mad about that. I think Aries actually brought that up. Like he had that in the tuck. This is this thing that you've been saying about me that I don't book. black openers on my comedy tours and Aries was furious

he was so mad about that and in Vlad's reaction video that he posted yesterday he includes a clip of Aries Spears on Vlad TV with another guy not with Vlad where he says that when he books his tours he does not like booking black openers

because he doesn't because black he really like uses a bunch of racial stereotypes and says black comedians just talk about black shit and white shit and so when I book my tours I want to put people of other races so that I'm not basically. It's more universal. It does make sense because

Aries coming out as the last guy and him kind of feeling like the black comedians are going to do material that's like sort of similar to his and if it's like an Asian guy and a white guy before him that like he'll just seem like so black and so such an interesting black guy. We haven't seen

a black guy on stage all night. I get it. It does make sense. But the fact that he denied it so angrily on that episode of the podcast and then the clip comes out of him completely admitting it is like mind-blowing. And not only that, his cameraman and then his right-hand man, I don't know his dude's name, he's white also. All he do is surround himself with whites, but it's easy to come behind white comedians.

But he also goes to white comedy clubs. But his comedy clubs are mostly white comedy clubs in places where- That's what he says. He says, I don't want to do comedy tours that look like the Def Jam comedy jam. What do you say he caters through a white audience? List four comedians that could open up before him

and he come out and he shit up and he do his thing behind them. You can't name four comedians. Because they better than him. Bro, because you could do that. Mojo better than him, for sure. I can name a lot of white comedians how to blow him off stage easily.

Does Tony do that that dopeway like? Tony's trash. Oh, yeah, yeah. Tony's trash. I don't like it. He's trash. Tony's stand-up is one of the

Bro, listen. Listen, listen. The dopest white comedians are actors. I mean, Bill Burr is a fire white comedian turned actor. There's some really good way. Like I said, the dopeest, the dopest white comedians are actors. And then even Gary Owens in it. But Gary Owens crowd is black.

He's a black audience, 100%. Gary Owens is Moose Man. I'm more just taking it back by the hypocrisy or I guess like the inability to remember what he said on camera like five years ago because that was just pretty astonishing. I think he was just mad it was getting weaponized. Yeah. Like that's what it was. No, he forgot. Because he asked

who said that, who said that? So he wanted to know the names? And then he said, you know who else said he? You said it. Yeah. That's crazy though that have such a bad memory that he doesn't remember. And I feel like I'm victim of that all the time on here where I don't remember shit. 50? 50. You bring up intellect, like the intellectual, right? Like the I feel now that what's going on is you guys are, and I hate to say you guys,

I'm not even talking about white people. I'm talking about the people with platforms are more unapologetic today than you used to be. You know what I mean? Like you guys used to cower and try to avoid and this and that because you didn't want a bad stigma or it to look like now, it's more so like, fuck, I don't have to cower.

I don't have to be scared. Because I think Vlad didn't want to beef with anyone for quite a while after, he went through the whole thing where he says shit about Minister Farrakhan and then Lord Jamar and Godfrey got pissed off about it and that created like kind of an exodus from Vlad TV at that time. They might have lost like... He apologized for that shit. Yeah, he did, but it took him like four years or some shit.

Yeah. So that was, I think that after that, you saw Vlad just go into interview mode. He wasn't really trying to make himself like a key part of the narrative for a while. And then like in recent times, he started to get a lot more emboldened because he realized like, oh, I can just like publicly beef with my guests and make my own videos talking about it and people will actually be hyped on it. Joe Budden hated Vlad for the longest time. And even going back further, like one of the things that wound up being the original big surplus of funding

in Vlad's career was the whole Rick Ross thing. And a large- Like 200-Kare. I mean, yeah, but that was kind of a big deal, though. And a lot of people at the time were kind of on Rick Ross's. side. Yeah, even though... Did people know why he even got attacked? What you mean on this?

Because he reported on him being a CEO. Picture that situation happened now. Where Vlad or somebody like Vlad, even if it's just some streamer who's like not that popular or whatever. And a rapper on the level of a Rick Ross who in this modern age would be like, I don't know, fucking young boy or some... He was a big star at the time. He was.

He was huge at that time. He was right. Yeah. I mean, I just think that if young boy... Sent all his homies to crack Vlad over the head with a fucking champagne bottle and beat his ass. Number one, we would see 80 different angles of it. So it would be like way bigger news, way crazier. But then also I don't think, well, okay, young boy is maybe like the one person who I could see getting a lot of sympathy just because people love him so much and think he's like fucked up, but they like him anyway.

But generally speaking, I think it would be a very bad look. And Vlad would get a lot of sympathy and, you know, Ack would be breaking the footage down. Act would have to be honest and say, I think that they were tweaking. You can't do that to somebody like, Vlad, that's fucked up. You know, the guys would get arrested the next day. It would be, it just wouldn't go down, like the way that it went down 15 years ago or whatever.

What year was that? I was about to say. 08, I believe. Yeah, 08 is. Hey, you said they had sympathy because he broke that he used to be a CEO. I think that's why they were pissed. At that time,

Vlad was pretty much like enemy number one in hip-hop. Honestly, that was so long ago that I almost feel like Vlad was. wasn't that big of a name. He wasn't. That's kind of why I said a lot of his platform was built on that initial funding. It wasn't until, you know, like the early 2010, 2013, 14, 15 when Vlad's channel, I think, really started to get going.

But like 2008, he didn't even have a YouTube channel yet. I'm pretty sure. That was early, early Black TV. Mix tape DJ and then a website. And the website was a big deal at the time because it was like a world star competitor. BlattTV.com. Hey, fuck. When do Wendy Williams get sick?

When did she get sick? Yeah, like when did she fall off? When did she fall off? I feel like maybe when she fell off a lot of what fucking spot-tiles. I want to, she was still, but she was still really popular in like 2012, 2013 for show. It was after that. She was actually at her peak around that time.

Yeah. I think Rick Ross is corny. I wouldn't have never been team Rick Ross because, you know what I'm saying? Or against Vlad because he out at that about a nigga being the CEO trying to pose as a dope dealer and misleading people. Yeah, I don't think Vlad did anything. wrong by reporting on that. But look at how much shit that Vlad took back in the day for doing things that other people

weren't willing to do. Correct. Like the fact that he was, you know, hyping up. Or he posted the video of ransom going to Joe Budden's house, right? And slapping him or did he slap his home? It was home. He was home. Either way, like, that video was out there and people would have known about it.

But Vlad was like the platform that was actually really willing to post. I guess World Star probably posted and shit too. But Vlad really. That's why Joe Button hated him for a long time. And then also. And then the Rick Ross thing. That's something that... Maybe other people weren't willing to post about that shit.

But Vlad, to his credit, Vlad has always kind of like known what the game was going to turn into ahead of time. So like he knew that the stuff that he was doing in 2008, if you fast forward the clock 15 years would become normal. But the problem is that when you're the first one through the wall, you take all of the heat and all of the damage. And then everybody else is allowed to come through afterwards. And nobody really like looks at Flocko or Ross or Jake.

I mean, all of those people kind of have a stank on their name because they all do various versions of like telling from the average. You couldn't hide behind the veil of it's just content. You couldn't. At that time, nobody, nobody had thought of that yet. Correct. But that's why I brought up Wendy Williams because she was going after Diddy. And they hated her. He was going to have.

So that was a time where you get fired from your job. Yeah, they got fired. They hated her. And when she was doing more shit, I remember she reported on things that really didn't need to be discussed. Method Man's wife had cancer things like that She was doing a whole bunch Right or she just what she got?

I thought she had like Like some mental thing going on But I bring that up to say that like Vlad wasn't the first like he's not Like because she her and Charlemagne We're on some fucked up shit But but he he was amongst The first in independent media

She was remember she comes from radio Like she's yeah She had a TV show and yeah She literally was in the same vein And she was a gossip columnist in the same, but doing the same thing, essentially Angie Martinez and all them were doing. But she was like taking it way further. So do you think it could be white man can't jump effect?

Because it's a white person doing it. I mean, but white man can't jump effect is low key, oh, this person is getting more grace. As a result. Yeah, because he's in LA. No, no, she's not. But I'm saying she was, she was a radio person. Correct. 1,000 percent.

You're right. but they were both radio personalities. She just leaned more into the gossip than someone like Angie Martinez who kind of avoided it. All those people like a big boy wasn't really like that. Sway wasn't really like that.

They weren't leaning into controversial content. When they would have controversial moments, it'd be the result of someone else turning up. You're basically the go between the artists who basically like allow the station that you're on to prosper and then the business execs who basically are going to look at you like a total liability if you're the one

creating all kinds of commotion and when you're just a guy with a job that you want to hold on to your incentives are to keep the job not to like constantly be pushing the envelope like Flaco would be a terrible employee at a radio station because Flaco would want to go on the radio and like talk about some like accusation that was coming out

about somebody before it was even proven or whatever you know it's like if Flago wanted to work at a radio station you kind of got to keep your head down do like an okay job but don't draw too much attention to yourself because you're handcuffed you got to Got one hand tie behind your back. But now at this point, more people are tuned into alternative media than they are mainstream outlets. Yeah, for sure.

And that's- By a significant margin. We all have conversations that are kind of on the same level because we're all fighting to be the person getting attention on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, slash Twitter that day, you know? Where do you think most people realistically would rather work a platform like no jumper or have their own show on Series X-M? Oh, freedom of a platform. I'm like no joke. Boom. You're invisible on seriously. 1,000%.

Unfortunately. It's the illusion of stature, but it doesn't really hit the same. Oh, that depends on what you ask. Yeah, it depends. I think,

because, what do you want? Payment? Do you want payment? Or do you want visibility? Well, like there's different values of, like,

of game, right? Like, Monets, like game. Like, what do you want out of it? Do you want visibility? I don't think they get paid.

I don't think in general, they get paid as much either. It's a little bit of a prestige play because if you get a job at a radio station, And then, like, you know, I see it with Boulai Kev where like he, he kind of like quit the radio thing, but then still has a relationship with him because they syndicate his shit. But he's able to like use that to get more guests that then end up coming to his platform.

He formed tons of relationships. I see him all the time on his story at these big eye heart music, radio things. And I see him fraternizing with all these different celebrities. And then like, big guess. And then once in a while, I see those people come to his podcast. It makes sense. And there's the value of the radio thing. but I mean just in general

it's like I feel like people get into those sort of situations in this day and age and they they sort of like enjoy it but then ultimately they're like this isn't really doing that much for me like the prestige of like being a part of like a TMZ or a complex or whatever and this day and age

it's really waned a lot whereas 2016 you know anybody who got a show on complex you were a big deal that was a big deal you know yeah MTV before that anyone who has show on that, you're a big deal. Well, everyday struggle. Wait, wait, fuck though.

But look at Jason Lee on BET. Sure. That shit is doing numbers. You know what I mean? Like, people are watching Jason Lee for sure. Right, but that's, I feel I would argue that that's more. Candace Owens. But that's more, that's more on the heels of Jason Lee being Jason Lee than it is him being

on BET. Yeah. The important thing is that BET could not build their own Jason Lee. Correct. It would be literally impossible because if they tried, no matter how good of an effort they put forth, that person would eventually be better off just doing their own thing.

But Jason Lee fuck with BET because it's BETT though. Yeah, that's a prestige play for him too. But also maybe it just makes sense because he interviewed, like, I've seen the difference because me and Lennon went a couple years ago and did an interview right after the Jason Love saga and that was like being produced in the same spot

but it was for his own channel and now it's for BET, which from my perspective, kind of the same, but like, you know, they're doing things a little bit differently. But isn't that by a significant margin like the show over there that has the most traction, has the most... That we would know of, probably,

because most of the shows that aren't, like, internet first, we don't even think of them. They're like, like, okay, D'sa and Mera, I ain't never seen that shit. Because it wasn't on fucking line. Like, it was like, the only time I actually saw a clip of it

was when they were beefing with academics. I only used to watch it when it was on HBO. Right. And I didn't have HBO, or I wasn't thinking about it. Oh, okay. Like, because I used to watch it on HBO. Wait, that's before I knew, like,

oh, this is what this is. But now Miro has a radio job by Hot 97 and the views from what I hear from Danny from the stop are not good and the other dude is with Carmelo I don't even know what he's doing yeah he's he's got a podcast with carmello I mean and as far as like hot 97 and the the major New York radio stations the only somewhat relevant show that I could think of right now that even came from that world is breakfast club who have been like significantly suppressed by the Netflix deal so yeah a shadow of their former selves we don't hear about them like that They should pay clippers.

Would you, would you, Adam, take a deal from a big company like Netflix, even if you knew it was going to water down your platforms significantly? No, I would not do that, but I will tell you what I would take. These nuts. I would take a moment to speak about clavicular being arrested, because that was a boring topic, no offense. But, so clavicular has been arrested or physically served with arrest warrant.

Oh, he's not been arrested or physically serving with arrest warrant, but he is scheduled for arraignment on October. 14, 2026. Let's break down his charges. The criminal complaint includes three specific counts. Keep in mind, clavicular was here just the other day. Isn't it kind of scary? That's your boy, boy. We could have got dittled. Yeah, you're cursed, man. You'd be cursing people do. You think? Look, even my white homies get charges after they come here. But not for killing, just for didling. That's the one that'll be, uh, hitting itself with the hammer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, looks maxing. Okay. So he's currently facing a potential maximum penalty of up to 20 years.

in prison for rape. Also, he's been in charge with drugging a person for sexual intercourse and also procuring and providing liquor to a person under 21. So basically, the accuser is an influencer named Alexandra Mendoza, who goes by Alora Ziva online. She was 17 years old at the time of the alleged incident, which I have been informed is not part of the problem because that age. is legal in Massachusetts.

That's within, they have one of those under 18 consent law. Right, and also he would only be 20, so, I mean, I don't think that charge

would be all that interesting to people in the first place. Legal Agia consent, probably 16 out there. She told him, there's clips of her saying she's 18 and he said he was 19, but I believe so.

Right. So she lied about her age, but that's not actually part of this because she was of age. in Massachusetts in the first place. And then... And he was like only a couple years old.

Right, but like... Just in general, it's not a case. But getting liquor and giving it to a person under 21 is a crime. And drugging a person for sexual intercourse also a crime. Although, like, you know, the accusation to me is pretty like poorly sourced. But basically Mendoza initially communicated with Clav on Instagram. He allegedly paid for an Uber to bring her to... to his parents' home and chat in Massachusetts.

How am I right now realizing that he's from Massachusetts? I didn't know that. I didn't know that. How the fuck did I miss that? Under the premise of helping her social media career by featuring her on live streams, the incident. Court documents state that Peters pressured her to drink vodka on a live stream

while instructing her to tell the camera that she was 18 and that the alcohol was water. Mendoza reported to the police that she became heavily intoxicated and was raped while. unwilling to give consent. These criminal charges closely mirror a civil lawsuit for sexual battery, fraud, and emotional distress that Mendoza filed against Peters earlier in 2026. So basically, she decided to come forward with these accusations earlier in 2026.

Now these are the legal charges, the criminal charges associated with her lawsuit. And obviously, these charges existing really help to, like, give her lawsuit additional credibility. Oh, the drugging, yeah, which was on stream, right? So while they're on stream, which is actually very similar to what happened when I was on stream with him, where I ended up injecting some kind of mystery chemical into my penis, she was willing to be injected with some sort of peptide that I guess, I don't know, makes your cheeks more plump or something like that. And so he was doing that to her on the stream, which I'm sure if you saw the clip,

it's just going to be him saying like, oh, this is cool, like try it out. This is kind of like Botox or whatever. Like I don't think that like drugging. Like it's not like that that injection is going to have any impact on the state of mind. Yeah, yeah. You explain to me what is a peptide? So a peptide is like, well, okay, like the GOP-1s like OZemPEC, those are a peptide. They have peptides that help with your, you know, your weight loss with building muscle,

with recovering from hard workouts. Tanning. They have peptides for that. I never really heard of like a peptide that you inject it into your face. Because that's the thing, if you're using it for what it's not intended for, you know what I mean? Like if you're not using it for what it's intended for, you change the chemical compound or something? So clavicular claims that he's super educated on everything he's putting in his body and that's how he's able to sustain and the lifestyle he is. But I saw.

Okay, it's it's called Aqualix, which is an unapproved fat dissolving, compound into the into her face during a live stream. Yeah. And it says that the procedure was performed without proper authorization and outlines claims regarding the nature of the substance, which everybody who does anything with peptides knows that they're taking part in something that is not like medically co-signed by the establishment. So we all kind of know that.

But I'm sure Clive never thought for a second as like a 19 year old or whatever he was at the time that he was going to be doing something that could be used against him. Well, according to TMZ, what happened was she, like, woke up, was asleep and woke up to him on top of her. Banging her, yeah. Yeah. Have he ever asked sex order before? That night. That was it.

Yeah. And so, okay, we actually have his response as well here. Clavicular speaks out after being charged with rape, trying to get my attention in any way possible, really petty of you. Which, it is, it's kind of cool that, like, he has, like, the Trump playbook on deck. you get accused of some horrific shit you immediately turn it into like this is a campaign against men they do this to every successful man

which is like a very compelling argument because we do all see it take place all the time you know but Andrew Tate utilized that when I first got canceled in 2018 I didn't quite know that playbook yet which would have served you well potentially yeah you got to like just basically claim that you're the victim of like a first time they got to tell you been canceled

me he said the first time really like two major ones word. That's the really only Why is it so funny that I've been canceled? Who fuck dare? The first time? Multiple cancelization.

Yeah. And then you said how many? I said two. Like, wow, that really bolsters your point. You try to get it together. I didn't hear you.

We're getting the drunk bunch of you now. I'm starting to realize with this podcast. It's going to be a lot. The first time I've been canceled. Whatever, man. Well, I mean,

like, I would say most people who have been canceled once have been canceled multiple times. You haven't made it until you've been, they've tried to cancel you. In many ways, that is true. Yeah, I remember academics saying that to me

before I first got canceled. He was like, you're not really famous until there's people who really hate you. And I remember thinking like, damn, I don't feel like anybody really hates me. Now, I really got to like learn. Yeah, yeah, I got to figure that out for myself. Do you feel like you were more famous than Act at that time?

Arguably. Probably like 2018. It's like 2018. 2018? It was probably pretty close together. Yeah, I get, you're right, though. Everyday struggle was. No, no, no.

Like, like, I got it because he was sitting next to a, that was like Joe Buckingham, you know what I'm saying? Act was a big deal at that time. Yeah, but we would probably be like pretty close together at that time. All right. So, okay, this is, is this a video? No. Okay, there is a video that.

Okay, so this is the girl. Not dating clav. Just did a little stream together where he injected Aqualix. It was really fun. Super nice. Send me an Uber home right after. And what else? And this is the problem, though, is that she signed up to do everything that

she did she lied about her age but then after the fact because he didn't he wasn't diligent enough in checking her ID now he gets charges he gets a huge civil lawsuit etc so like this is like the number one thing as a male public figure that you have to avoid because she'd be able to basically do the same thing if she wasn't uh young but it makes it like so much worse liquor or to talk about the the shot yeah the liquor and the shot since it's like she's basically being accused of he's being she's like drugging a minor so even at 18 she would have been under the thing anyway but yeah that's a good point though i don't even think there's any age where like you wouldn't be able to be sued for injecting somebody with a peptide without the proper precautions you know that is a good

point not dating clavs man especially just a position of power you want to put the hips on i'll stream together where you injected aquilix was really fun oh that's just replay Okay. So yeah, she messaged him trying to work as a bottle girl at the club that he was the owner of. He said, how about don't finance cars you can't afford? It happens to all the successful young men. People try to come for your money. Greed is evil. This is, okay, this is the clip of her. Wait, she looks so different in this clip. She is 16? Absolutely not. What, you're 16? No. How old are you? 18. Okay, good. Cloud, old are you?

I'm 19. He lies about his age a lot too. It's hard to know what the fuck. They both don't look the same. But I do think he's 19 here because he looks so different. He's all buff and shit here. He's not hammered his face yet. Right now.

He probably was doing it because look how red and rosy his cheeks were even like that. That's for sure. Early looks maxing clav, if anything. Before he really figured it out. I mean, is anyone at this table actually surprised at this dude that literally brags about getting coked out of his face and drunk every single night and goes to the club where there's like 50 bitches lined up? Is anyone surprised that there's an element of?

sexual misconduct potentially you're right this was before he was doing the partying stuff you know because like yeah i i do agree with you that like all the shit that he's been doing on stream is like super scary super problematic if you're if you're a streamer and your whole thing is that you hang out with a bunch of drunk girls all the time and you have sex with some of them your days are number it's like just let's just make that perfectly clear like they might not get you for a couple months. But for sure, at some point, if your whole thing is letting crazy-ass chicks come to your big-ass mansion

and get wasted, it's just a matter at time. Weren't you even kind of taken aback per my recollection, like, by, like, how crazy it was? Yeah. We're at this house, his team goes out and gets hell of girls from like a day club by just saying, hey, do you want to go to Clevickers's house? They say yes, they throw

20 girls in a sprinter, all the girls come to the house. He doesn't even give a fuck. He don't even go over and talk to him. He's like, whispering to me about how fucking fat some of them are. And then they all hang out. They all get drunk. Some of them are injecting peptides and stuff. Some of them for sure are doing drugs.

I don't really know. But then we go to the club. More drugs are getting done. More drinking is taking place. I probably left at like two in the morning. So I didn't really see like what the wee hours of the night would have been. For sure, it was going to get wild. That's like the confidence and bravery of only a white man.

You know what I mean? Like that shit, like I would never. As if what we're describing is any different than the life. of Chris Brown. It's the fuck are you talking about. It's way different. How? Because it's not being televised.

Rios. It's not being recorded. So you're saying because one guy has the balls to stream it, that that makes it like inherently like a racial divide? Well, for my experience, white people are way more frivolous with fucking drugs. Look at Blueface. All these black streamers.

You ain't being fair, bro. The shit that came down my timeline another day is crazy. What? Blueface, bro. And that's why he said, You get on camera and it's like you're drunk with the female, you're on a clock. Ain't nobody injecting no drugs in nobody face. Like I would net like that's not even something I even know about.

Like that's not that out of ordinary. Everybody knows about peptides. No, no, no, no, no. Like clav is just like kind of pushing the envelope. All right, like black people version of some field or some coke. A. Yeah, but think about AV and D and they're doing the same exact thing that Clave is doing. They're getting drunk.

They're hanging out with girls. they're doing drugs realistically off camera they're fucking some of the girls. Minus the injections. Yeah, minus injecting the capos over the face. But besides that, like, what is the material difference between Clap and A-B-D? Except for the injections.

No, the drugs. Because are they outwardly saying, oh, we're doing drugs? I saw Ray J. hiding the fact that his girl was doing drugs. But Clab would, like, try to hide the drugs on camera. I thought you understood. He was outwardly doing drugs. I was really watching him with, like,

a big blob, a Coke or ketamine on his hand, and, like, literally taking the camera and, like, pushing it away so he could do it. Right, because he knows you're not allowed to do that on camp, but he does talk about it openly. He talks about it very openly. I would say A, B, doing white girls is pretty poorly kept as a secret at this point.

Well, it's definitely more accepted in the white community to openly talk about and be cated out on dope. Yeah, we're woke. We're woke. I mean, like, realistically, like, your nose is not, like, so dissimilar from your mouth or your butthole as ways to take drugs, right? Well, I mean, it does do be boofing a lot.

What the hell? I mean, I'm just saying like, like, any drug, like ecstasy, you could take an ecstasy pill, you could crush it up and snort it, you could boil it and fucking inject it into your veins, you could put it in your asshole, like there's a lot of different ways to take a drug. And there are, some of them are healthier, like, more superior, but like realistically, they're not that different. To be fair, though, and I've been around, like, women doing all types of drugs and ingesting it in those manners.

I don't think I've seen too many black girls boofing before. It's definitely like having someone blow coke up your ass. For the record, I've never seen anybody doing that. I just know that it's a thing. I've blown two grams off the bitch's ass before. I didn't put E pills and bitches' butts before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, eat pills. That's true.

That's true. That's the show true, hitting her from the back. I never did. That's pretty normal. Code before, but I didn't have it sniffed off my dick and shit. Fire. Send that video later. Yo, but Rios, Rios trying to take the moral high ground.

Oh, black people don't do coke. Yes, they do in their asshole with Munch and. G. But what I'm saying is that there's a more of a comfort level and a more of a confidence in the different demographics. Yes. There's way there's more normalized. It's more normalized. And they don't go to jail for that shit as much as. Okay. But this is the thing about clab that you have to understand is that clav is someone who grew up on the internet and he doesn't really understand that in the world that there are laws and rules that you have to follow because on the internet, hey, any drug, you could do any drug. You can order it on.

online you could order it off some forum they're going to come to your house like all that shit is totally normal he meant this is a guy who got kicked out of college because he brought steroids to college and was and was like doing him in front of his fucking roommate or some shit and then the college ends up raiding his room finds all of his steroids and then they fucking can him kick him out of school which was kind of like the the thing that propelled him into this whole streamer lifestyle which morally yeah there is nothing wrong with injecting testosterone now doing it at 18 is kind of problematic, but like, there's nothing wrong with it morally, but we do live in a society with laws, but like, once you're like a grown-up, you can have steroids in your house, like,

the odds of the cops running up in your crib unless you're doing some wild shit is like very close to zero. So yeah, you can, you can have steroids in your house. Like, they're not going to come looking for that. But like, your clob, you're like, then all of a sudden you're world famous and you're on camera all the time and every clip of you goes crazy. And look, I'm not trying to put nothing on an old boy like that because I don't know what happened. But, but everything that we're describing about this guy, the rampant misogyny, drug use, feeling untouchable and, like, laws don't apply to

him. That kind of lends itself to thinking that this charge may be accurate. I actually... Am I crazy for thinking that? It doesn't go well. Okay. Do I think that he could get convicted? Yeah, definitely. Do I think he actually did anything wrong? Not really. I mean, like, the worst sounding thing is

basically that he started fucking the girl while she was asleep. Hey. That's pretty bad. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. We've all done it. No, we have No, no, no, no, in the morning. Like, you had sex the night before, and then you're waking up in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, your girl.

You're right, you're right. Him doing it on, like, the first night, sure, that's so weird. But all I'm saying is that, like, what kind of girls are going to sleep through a guy trying to fuck her, like, the next morning? They drug. That's kind of a head, bro. I don't know. It just seems like bullshit. Like, I hear girls talking about how they like to get fucked to wake up all the time.

Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They like, she, she, well, she fucked them the night before. and she was clearly like absorbed with him in some way. Oh, that's, you do. Hold on. So she hit already. He fucked her that night and that's,

but they're basically saying that she was too drunk. And then she said that she woke up in the morning and that he had been fucking her. So, so she's not chipping on the night before? Well, we don't know that. We don't know. I don't know if she's. Well, she's basically saying that he got her so drunk. She was intoxicated.

Yeah, she wasn't able to consent, period. I mean, just generally speaking, I mean, we all know. Yeah, we're not going to read this letter, but she did. write him like a long-ass letter as I'm not reading that show. In the favor of her or in favor of him? Well, basically the letter does not include anything that would suggest that he did anything wrong. Which, you know, as someone who's been in this situation before, keep in mind, I hung out with a girl in 2008. And then I got to find out 10 years later because there was an article came out.

I got to find out that she had decided that I took advantage of her. So 10 years later, you get to find out. Claib only had to weigh whatever, like a year. So I am a little sympathetic since I've been through the same exact thing. Girls trying to ruin your life and your name by basically just putting bullshit accusations on you. I had a homie in high schools. The girl lied on. He was the jail.

You know what we've had to interview him so bad, bro. Man. Oh, you know who he's talking about? Yeah. It's a movie out on it. Brian Banks. Yeah. Why was it like notable enough that they made a movie by him?

Because he was on his way, too. He was the number one linebacker in the nation. Right. And he was going to go to USC with P. Carroll had already recruited him when he was like in the 10th grade. And he committed. And he committed. And the girl, they got caught on the stairs. Oh.

And so when she got caught, she lied and said like, oh, this dude. It wasn't consensual. It wasn't consensual. And, you know, a big old black dude, you know, buff as fuck. And then. Was she a white girl? No. And so she got caught going to the lawyer's office.

his lawyer's office and he had it recorded and she was like, he was like, just come clean and she was like, well, my mom already spent all the money there's nothing we can do because they sued the school district and they got it on tape of her admitting that she lied because she was scared of what her parents were going to do or whatnot.

That shit was fucked. But you scared the damage was already done. He already had with the jail. Yeah. Yo, he's in jail, yeah. And he got out and then she hit him up on Facebook like nothing happened. Yeah.

Like a cuckoo bitch. Wow. And then he had her to meet up and he recorded her confessing. You know what I'm saying? Reverse thing. Ruined this fucking life, though. Whoa. He's going to be in a league.

But, hey, hey, bro. Man, I wanted to interview that dude, D.W. Not DW, P. Knight saw me a dream. Like, yeah, but I'll meet you up. I'll talk to him like that. Yeah, man. Has he done, like, any media regarding that? Yeah, he's done some media.

And then Pete Carroll, when he got out of jail, Pete Carroll let him try out for the Seatawks. Wow. Oh, yeah, because he had, he felt like he owed, you know what I mean?

Like, but he didn't have those years of coaching. He's six years out of football, but he's, but the fact that he still let him come to the team try out, you know what I mean? Like,

it was a big deal, man, it was a fucked up situation. That is a fucked up situation. Hey, Adam, I'm gonna give you a cool little parallel you can run with, right? Ooh,

call yourself the Pete Carroll or a podcaster. I never had a case. What the fuck? Well, Pete Carroll never had a case. Yeah, he did. He ran away. Remember he ran from the-Carrot?

Pete Carroll, the coach? Oh, not an illegal, not a case like that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But did he go on to achieve great things after that? Yeah, he wants to football. Oh, oh, no, no, no. Hey, USC. Not the coach, not the place.

Oh, fuck the coach. No, no, no, no. Hey, look, this is why I said that. Pete Carroll is not the average white boy. Pete Carroll know that, like, the athletes that had the tally, they're from the inner city. So he went to these schools, and he did center recruiters.

He went to crunch of highs, walking in the hallways himself. He went to Polly. He went to Georgia. the one of Watts. And she... Don't go to went to Polly. Huh?

Polly and very high. No, he didn't. He went to Crabillo. No. That's crazy. You know what school he went to. Even though it's 80 hours away. Bro.

Brandon pissed me off. He'd be pissed me on. Blood gang. So wait. So you're basically, the comparison much he's trying to say is that you go to the trenches to find talent like Munchy B and Brick. Oh, okay.

I like that. No, no. That's what I'm saying. Pete Carroll, he, like, as a USC coach, you can sit, you serious. recruiters. You ever see boys in the hood? That recruiter, it wasn't the coach,

he sent a recruiter. So he went to these schools in the Trichenshaw and Ingle High School himself and roamed the hallways and hollered at the students, you know what I'm saying? And then even when he got to the NFL, like he made sure like, you know what I'm saying? He still tapped in. He still tapped in. It's like Nick Nulte in the movie Blue Chips. Remember that movie back in the 90s about the

NCAA and like the scandals of... Yeah, but Pete Carroll was the man. Like he had Snoop Dog, Will Ferrell at the practices. For sure. You know what for sure. Legend. Crack inside legend. That's crazy that you guys had to learn that lesson about like a football star and I had to learn it about this fucking fat dude who worked at the grocery store with me.

Well, I learned it as a kid, but I hear you. Well, I mean, he was like 19 and I just remember he went to jail for a while for fucking like a 15 year old or something. I didn't even know that I was like. Did he not do it? I was like the girl's age. So like I was astounded. I couldn't believe it. No, I assume he did it.

Adam, since you. are you going to have clavicular spin the block and be your therapist again? Clavicular can be my therapist any day. I just want the people to know, yes, he is 20 years younger than me. Yes, he is literally younger than half my age. But me and clavicular go along very well. And my wife, who I am separated from, technically,

she has pointed out that she thinks that he and I have similar narcissistic autistic personalities. Oh, he's for show on the spectrum, right? Like, I think me and him really resonate with a lot of things. And I think that he appears to me as to be like, if I had had the balls to really go for it as a young man, that I could have been like him. Not in like the nose jaw or like a hammer in your face,

but like I think like at a young age, I knew that you like you really have to get like, amazing shape in life. If you really want to have like a great life, that's just going to benefit you so much. Like I knew that, but I wanted to eat fries and pizza and shit instead. So I never like had the guts to really like go through with it.

How much do he weigh? I don't know, but he's like extremely good shape. It's like very, very lean. But the thing is he's super roided out at such a... Not really anymore. He was like,

I don't know how long he could sustain being alive. With the cocktail of drugs that he's... shaking. I mean, because he was that bad. I don't know if it's that bad. Well, he literally, he was overdosing on camera and shit. He was doing shit. Hey, I asked that Lusk because, like, physically he, like,

you know what I'm saying? When you look at him, he probably appear away, but he probably have zero strength. That's what, that was my whole point. No, he is. That's literally my yes. You're right. Struggling to bench 135. That is my whole point.

And he's on steroids since he was like 14. Is that the funniest thing ever? Or fluff. Like, like, I would say like most girls could probably bench 135 for one. He's doing it for aesthetic. He says that he hates exercising. He says, yeah, you don't like it. He considers exercise a waste of time.

But even that, I like that he's so honest about that because I fucking hate exercising. But I just like have to do it. But he's like, no, I'm going to go around it. I'm going to get on all this shit. Yeah. Does he eat all strict and shit? Like he has like a strict fucking diet and all this really eats. When I was, yeah, because he's all about being on Ozempic and shit.

That's like the major tenant of his religion is like you have to. to be lean. So it's Ozimpic, steroids. He's on a... Yeah, he's on all that shit. He loves it, bro. Yeah, he defenceless. And you know what else I like about him that is actually extremely similar to me? Um, is that he talks about how he's like, he likes fucking girls and he doesn't really care if they're hot or not, which that was like, like, rule number one. So why was he calling them chubby when they came to the door and talking shit? I don't know. I think you just get fucked up and just bang whoever. And I was always like that. I was always like, I'll fuck, I'll fuck whatever girl.

Wait, I thought he's super, like, picky about the bitches. With the girls that he, like, takes serious, but he also always talks about how he is down, like how he fuck so many disgusting chicks. Yeah, but you weren't like that until that dude told you that. Like, whenever you said the dude. Yeah, I got turned out. You got turned.

He told you like, shit, I'm just trying to stack numbers. Okay, sexually, that guy is the guy who put me on the hood. Sexually. Pause. In the sense that, like, he taught me how to be a, degenerate piece of shit dude who fucks every single girl he can when I wasn't like that. Do you think he fucked your life up? Like he, do you think he fucked your outlook up?

Like, yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, I was going to, like, kind of like figure out how to be a man one way or another. But like, when I look back at all those older BMX dudes I was hanging out with, they just, their attitude on women was so toxic. And I would have really been better off getting that sort of like life education from somebody who was like less insane. Yeah. Those guys were fucked.

Hey, Rios, where we're from, they just say, pussy ain't got no face on it. Remember? Right. Yeah. Pussy ain't got a little face on it. So you just hit. And there was no value on that shit.

It was just like. Yeah. And then, you know, like, that's okay. But also, like, if I could have, like, had somebody in my, if somebody that came to me, like, my friend at that age and was like, listen, the game is not about fucking every chick. It's about fucking high quality girls. And presenting an image.

image of yourself that is one that a woman of quality would want to be with. Exclusiveness. I think that that is the actual path forward. It's like being a rapper. It's like a rapper will wear 10 chains and they'll get beats from the hottest producers and they'll pay bigger rappers to stand next to them in videos and they'll pay for promo and all this shit, all with the attempt at making them look cool to the people. As a guy, that's what you're doing when you're dating.

You got to wear the right clothes, whatever that may be. You've got to smell the right way. You've got to look the right way. You want to only be seen with quality women. You don't want your stock to be dragged down. If there's pictures of you online hanging out with fours, then that's going to color you as a guy who gets fours. I think when you're younger, it's all about putting numbers on the board

and, like, you're gaining experience. You're getting your rep up and all that. I just took that too far. I did that for like 15 years. Then at a certain point, you start to be a little bit more picky and discerning. Hopefully. Yeah, I think back of the day, like we were. were going after the girls.

Like we like that was the whole reason like not necessarily peacocking, but you were establishing yourself for women. I feel like nowadays like this new shit, these what fuck is men is getting dressed for men. Well, the whole entire role in society. It's like, I'll do another man like oh like it's just kind of weird. But that's what girls do too. Girls are competing on like jewelry that we don't understand and like plastic surgery that like maybe we'll notice but like maybe not like all these things that like kind

to seem like they're for the girls. But don't you think like the new like men are taking on those qualities of like how women are? Yes, but women are also making more money than ever before and have like or trying to us serve the patriarch. This is the thing. Okay. Women have become men in a lot of like powerful, meaningful ways in the sense that they understand the value of their koochie and they understand that they really have no reason to fuck broke dudes. They should only fuck guys who, you know, if you're a real hot chick, you should only fuck guys that are able to like benefit you in some way. Clavicular is like a dude who took on all of the lessons that women have known for decades or centuries and brought those to the man's space because he realized, oh, the leaner I am, the more attractive

I am, the better girls I'll be able to get the better that I'll be able to do in life. Every girl knows that. All the girls out here getting fake tits. Like girls getting fake tits is the equivalent of clavicular, like claiming he's getting some crazy jaw surgery or pounding his face with the hammer. to make his cheeks like fucking swell up a little bit or whatever like you should be the judge of that all those things all those things are things that are totally normal for girls to do girls get surgeries out the fucking wazoo clavicular is just like the one dude who's like pushing it into the mainstream

that that kind of stuff is also beneficial to men because prior to this it was like bodybuilding and there is which that bodybuilding is for other men well there there is truth to the clav philosophy in certain degrees like if you're in a foreign country and you're at some random ass party and everybody, let's say everybody's wealthy there, everybody's opulent, what's going to separate you and make you stand out is the way you look. Like, your RIS is inconsequential

because nobody speaks to the language or whatever. It's just you're going to get fucked based on how you look. But dudes will spend crazy amounts of money on their car, on their clothes, on their tattoos, on their jewelry. But at the end of the day, if you have 5% body fat,

none of that shit really, like all that shit kind of goes out the window. Like being in good shape is so much more important. than having all the luxurious, glamorous shit. I wish I would have realized that a lot. Yeah, me too. The only surgery that really matter what the man is his teeth, bro.

Teeth, hair. That's a big thing. No, no, the thing is important, bro. For sure it is. You can't go to a nobody job interview. You know, shit shot out. Hey, you got his other dude named George and his, he got a nice front scene.

Just the first thing you see. Right, right. That's the most important thing on a man. That can be surgically done. If you're a guy and your hairline is here, Your teeth is more important than your hair long. You think? Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, if your hair's jacked, you can, you can shape your head. Yeah. So that's, yeah. Like, you just have to stop talking. The most important thing a man could do to modify itself is his teeth. I don't disagree. I think you're right.

I think, okay, yeah. Being a bald dude is not that bad compared to having fucked up teeth. You have fucked up teeth. Everybody, like, treats you like a meth head. It's unfairly, but they do. Well, and you hooked your homie up because of that, right? And I feel like. Like it's probably like, I think he was able to leave his girlfriend after that.

Oh, is that right? You're gonna help me for that? Yeah, he hooked his own boy up. You gonna hit me over some veneers, bro? I had like a cool black dentist at the time who was like down to do it. Huh? What happened to him? I don't know.

I don't even remember his name, but I can find him, actually. But your teeth are fine. Like, nobody's going to like take sympathy on you because your shit is like normal. It has to be for sympathy, you know? It could be better, but they don't look. This dude's shit was fucked. My shit was fucked. I had to get my shit.

Yeah. Yeah. think about how much worse you looked like that is it's such a huge difference so y'all agree we don't think about i agree we are but cardi b would always have the conversation about teeth or ass what's more important for a girl get your teeth down and get your ass on got a bag and fix my teeth teeth the thing with girls though is that your teeth matter like

crazy your tits matter like crazy and your ass matters like crazy and small waist matters like crazy like with a girl everything matters you gotta have everything on point or like realistically dudes ain't really looking at you like that But bad breath will fuck some shit out. Oh my god. Is he a bad breath will fuck some shit up? I know a girl in the only fans world who is one of the hottest chicks you will ever see. If I brought her up on the screen right now, you guys would all be like 10.

She is a 10. Me and a bunch of other people have all independently confirmed. They're just, thank ass, brother. She can fix that, though, right? I don't know. I don't know if she knows about it. But I've like somehow accidentally ended up in conversations with other people where I realized that they know. And ain't none of y'all go tell her?

Nobody's told her? That's, oh, shit. I don't want to tell her. I got nothing to gain from telling her. She might have halitosis or something. If I was fucking her, I would tell her. I would fuck her three times before I told her, though. I don't think she's not, I don't think she's not brushing her teeth.

I think it's something she got to get fixed. Could be a sinus issue. For sure, she takes care of her teeth. I don't know. I can't justify it. I just know that I have been, like, you know, standing next door like this and smell it. Like, she's not, like, directly breathing my base, and I still smell that. And I just makes me like.

And nobody told her shit. That's fucked up. You got to figure this out, babe. I mean, I've talked about the Eric Amanda thing several times, and I'm not the only thing. Yeah, I said it on this podcast. I'm not the only one that said that. Chris Brown said it.

A bunch of people. I remember the same thing about it. Mano and Uncle Murder saying that Kaye Michelle had a stinky pussy. Nah. Uncle murder was, he was just sitting there? No, he was cloud chasing. You could tell he's trying to be funny.

I couldn't believe it. I never heard of her, but I was like, that's so grimyming to go on a podcast and say that? But she got her ass reduced, though. Oh, for real? She's had a stupid cake. But isn't that a cap that like a BBL stinks? They say that shit.

That's not true. I heard something like that. At times, it depends. Oh, but I never seen that. But I think Michelle had too much ass for me, but I couldn't hear from the back, bro. Because our shit was way too big, bro. You'd have to work the angles for sure. That was a lot.

I mean, I'm going to be real, like, a lot of black women go a little crazy with the butt. No, that's her and Nicky with that extra that shit, bro. I know, but that's what I'm saying is that some of the most influential black women went too crazy with the booty. Like Nikki Minaj is a great example. Cardi B got hers reduced, you know? Little Kim. But also that's like the appetite of the guys.

Little Kim, went crazy on the face. Girls say that. Girls will say that black guys don't care how the BBL looks. They just want size. Who the fuck said that?

I've had tons of girls. She's a motherfuckering a lot. No, everybody knows that. That black dudes are like huge ass so much that they're willing to sacrifice it looking crazy, whereas a white guy, wants a BBL that like has a good solid shape to it. Y'all used to not even like that great.

I know, but we're catching up. But. I've heard enough girls say that that there's no way you can convince me. It's not true, though. But every black guy, you know, like, look at why Zion Williams with Mariah Mills? Because he's a weirdo. Because he's a weirdo. Zion Williams is weird.

No, yeah, he's a weirdo. But I'm saying that like a lot of the top black females kind of got like crazy BBL. No, because look. Who's the girl with the Tori Lane's? Meg? She's natural. She don't got no big old thing. But doesn't she stand out as like the very rare woman who, to be fair, genetically gifted

has like a really nice big natural ass? And she's a big woman in general. She tall as hell and shit. But I mean, what's the girl, Ice Spice? Yeah, she's going really? She looks amazing. Yeah, but like, okay, some of the biggest black females are the ones who just naturally are born with ass that's so big that it almost kind of looks.

fake. Look at Ice Spice. But that's different from one of the ugly BBL. A booty video that got 500,000 likes on Twitter. Yeah, but you said black men like ugly BBLs. It don't matter. I think that black men just prioritize size more than other races. And well, then there's women like Siza who wound up getting some of the best plastic

surgery of all time. Whoever did that deserves a fucking Nobel Prize. I have never looked. But let me just say this. Rios, I'm going to trap you right here. Let's go. do black men care about big ass more than Asian men? Yes.

Yes. Okay, there we go. But what's that mean? So if you're not willing to admit that also perhaps white people and Hispanic people appear on a spectrum of caring about that, then I feel like, like, if you'll admit that about Asian people, then you probably like have to admit that about white people, right? No, because the thing. You're saying white people and white people have the same exact taste, but for some reason Asian people have. Look at the argument. You said that it's so bad that they don't care if it's a botched search.

It could be black men accepting a 5% bigger ass or a 5% worse looking ass. I'm just saying it's a thing. We like big ass because that's how our girls naturally are. That's what we're naturally inclined to be. Then why they got to get surgery? But they don't. They don't. They don't.

Black women for sure have a higher percentage of BBLs than other races. No. You don't believe that? No. It became a fad, bro. South America. South America is really where it's why it's calling the BBL Brazilian but. I'm talking about in America, in L.A.

Well, granted there's way less black women than other races The Mexicans have the most BBSs It's definitely really prominent with Hispanic women And they have botched And I'll say, but okay, boom Mexican dudes are willing to accept that too Why? Because they kind of grimy What they got to do with black men?

I'm just saying black and Mexican dudes are sort of similar They want ass And they don't really care if it gets fucked up along the way Hey, hey, hey, I believe it I know it's racist but I believe it I don't think so I'm gonna keep it real with you, bro Most expensive girls don't have body

they don't have ass so so so so when you get a Mexican female you go with some eyes you go appreciate it and that's just what it is bro and you just go say what is that including Dominican women

and like Colombian women come on Mexicans bro okay I mean if you if you want to get fancy you know I get all right real particular whatever well no because there is a difference in like just majority of what we have access to in LA

yeah yeah absolutely BBO's procedures and conversations are notably prominent among black communities and media. Sociological research notes a strong cultural alignment with the thick ideal, an aesthetic that balances curves and a fuller figure rather than a hyper thin frame. Literally, anybody who's ever observed black culture for more than five minutes, I already knew that. Hispanic and Latino women often show a higher statistical desire for maximum volume,

lower polefulness, and pronounced curves. but in general I would say you know like white people seem like there's a lot of like famous white guys like look at well she's very talented but like a Taylor Swift like that that body type is like they think about like all the famous white women that you could think of that are like singers yeah yeah they're all skeletons but that that's very rare yeah Amber Rose right and basically a black woman no she ain't no basically no basically no but she did become popular because of black culture Black man and she comes off as black. And so did, uh, well, she's from a trailer park in like,

she's basically the same as being a black guy. Shut the fuck out. That's what he's saying. No. A y'all is. Hey, she is black for the record. She is not black. Her father, no.

She's Cape Verdean. Her mother is Cape Verdean, which I don't know what that means, but it sounds like some black shit. You just saw them in the fucking people. That's an island out the coast of Africa. A lot of them, like, they embossing. But, Kay, right. They all got colored eyes. The white skin, light skin, brown skin.

Yeah. And majority of them got green eyes. She's white. Yeah, Dorchester is like the largest, Kay Birdian population in America, I'm pretty sure. So that's a Dorchester, like literally hell on earth. Like the craziest fucking part of Massachusetts, it's by far. Free G. Fredo.

People talked about Dorchester when I was growing up, like, the way that people out here talk about Watts. I don't even know. Yeah, Compton wants, whatever. But like the worst neighborhood in that place. Yeah, no, Dorchester is active as fuck. Yeah. What I said?

message is yes it's in Boston like you said yeah yeah all right shout out of Compton and Watts um what else we got for topics man we got a lot of something going on um okay so they have they're having to drag big you into court I don't know we should talk about that should we talk about Azy Chike in the game yeah or should we talk about Aisy Chike and Drake rather no Kendrick as you're like you and whoever else okay well you're your friends with Aisy Chike because he is in Inglewoodian right Yeah, by way. Did you ever hear the fabled Kendrick verse on the Easy Check album?

I only heard T.Rill say that he heard it. I never heard nobody else ever speak of it. But did you hear, like, music from the album? Like, did you hear that it was on the album? Only heard it from T. Real. Have you ever heard anybody else speak other than T.R. Say he heard that he was on the album dissing everybody? It's a logical thought that Kendrick would be on that record since he was supposedly working.

That's different. No, you're right, though. I never heard. A picture of them in the studio, and they said, like, the West of the week. What would they say? It said something like, but everybody was just, you know, making speculations. I'm not going to lie, like Drake told me that he heard that Kendrick was going crazy

on the, on the Jake album. Like he said that when we were talking about it at some point. But I don't know if he was saying that because he heard the clip of T. T.R. saying it. Was it prior to that dropping or nah? That was a good question. I don't actually know what time. Now you know you can't trust them. Hey, but you know a lot of people put they

they put out fake news and throw bass out there on this. Like they especially between the TDI and OVO crew, they've been throwing out baits to each other on purpose. But I mean I just like am very skeptical of the idea that AZ Chike was down to be

or excuse me that Kendrick was down to be on the Chike album that he had the song ready to go and that all it took was T. rel going on a fucking radio show and saying, I heard you talking crazy about everybody who dissed him. Like, to be fair, T.R. did not offer up a lot of, like, real details at all. Like, that seems kind of crazy to me that that would be enough for Kendrick to take the verse off the album. I'm very skeptical of that.

Because it will hurt. It will hurt A. To take it off. Because if you do have a verse on it, it helps a lot. I don't think Kendrick is like, we're very skeptical. People talk shit or whatever, Drake and Kendrick. I don't think he would purposely fuck up some shit with Chike like that.

Bro, that's a difference between 10,000 first week sales and 70, 80,000 potentially. I don't know about that, but I'll give you 30. It's a big number. For a show. It's a big difference. At least 2030,000 more. Especially with Drake dropping, doing the FOMO shit and all this stuff going on, that would have just been, I just don't think he would do some shit like that.

I don't know that. I don't know. It feels like a logical time for Kendrick to hop back out there, given that we're kind of coming off of the Drake and the game conversation, where the Drake verse allegedly got pulled from the game album. You know, like this, the idea that he was going to be on the Chike album was so big. And it's just kind of crazy. Like, basically, is Kendrick so rare and mysterious with how he puts his aura out there

that he almost like becomes a hater? Like that he kind of becomes somebody that is just not. not that he's like ball hogging the clout is how i've heard people refer to it where he's not offering up enough for other people granted yes gnx had a bunch of features from dudes but like if he's that intimately involved in the azy chike album and can't do a verse that's literally going to take you fucking 10 minutes like i don't know did you hear his oh my back go as much you heard that from people or you heard that from uh trodermas act i mean so many people thought that kendr was going to be on the album. Now, if they were all wrong, sure. But okay, here's the thing. Chike did like an interview

on Pigeons and Plains. Chike was like kind of on social media talking and stuff. If he really never thought that Kendrick was going to have a verse on the album, I think that Chike probably at some point in the rollout would have said like, nah, no, Kendrick ain't on the album. Just to manage expectations. Wasn't there rumors of him executive producing it at one point? No, I think he did. He said that. He was very involved. He did not executive. producer. He does not have it. He was in the studio and he was involved. He playing mentor, bro. Correct. That's different though than actually, because the rumor was that he EP'd the album. Has everybody listened to the album? I have. And so what's,

production is crazy on there. Production really struck me as being really good. But he, I just don't think he's like notable enough as a rapper for it to be realistic that he could like go beyond the level that he's at right now. I think the A. Z. Chike and Rucci project was significantly better. I was knocking that. That was a dope album. I like that better than Mazi and Wajee shit. A. Z. Chike and Rucci had a surprisingly good album. Like, it was better than a lot of people thought it was going to be.

The thing is, well, West Coast artists, and I'm going to say, with Shaik, man, everybody on the West Coast just keep doing music with each other. They need to go outside of California and do more collapse. That's what accent. That's not a bad point. Because what's from calling it? He real versatile, though. He a Maclow player type dude. He could get along with everybody.

I'm talking about Shaik. Yeah, yeah, he's fashionable. Yeah, he's not into the streets and worried about who beefing with who like that. You know what I'm saying? He's not a Crike or a blood. Yeah. He's not a blood. He's affiliated.

He's not a blood, though. He's affiliated with Englewood. I thought he was an official Englewittian. No, no, no. Y'all believed that he got put on that 25. He don't game back. I know he's like denied that. Well, there is the whole clip of like the dude telling him not to throw up the bee or whatever, stop doing that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't remember that? Whoa, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, psych, psych, psych good people's, man. Look, look, Syke Kendrick and, and it was one more. Syke Kendrick is, uh, I like them niggies that like, like, like, like, don't game, ban, but they're from that. It's one more.

Compton, A.V. Fuck no. A, Bill. Man. Oh, oh, oh, I know you're talking about, uh, um. How you said it the other day. Dude from, uh, that, that kick you with the BPS. AFN.

Is not his name? What's his name? Fuck, no. Is that that's not all you talking about? Everybody fucking went up black stuff. What if everybody coming up out of Englewood is not from Englewood fans? We got Dejan and we got

Chike. Look at that. Your city's being taken over by renegades. You like that? Rochee from Englewood. He's from NHHP. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Lozzi. He's from Englewood family. Frosty, he said he love you, bro. He's from the surf. Does he? he was in the studio the other day we were pretty sure meet up bro I got a fucking Charzard for him

yeah I I hey hey I tell her I embrace that shit catch him all dude but shit no AZ Chike is now known by academics academics listen to his shit and that is a plus in his career

academics said hey man keep going your trajectory is up go outside of your shit if act was acting like he didn't know him before act is acting like he does do him now but he was calling him like ass cheek Everybody following his leader. Yeah.

No, cash. Do you guys think that the album was a disappointment overall? I don't, I didn't have any super, like, y'all be having expectations. Did you like it? Would you listen to it again? Yes, I'll listen to it again. It wasn't my favorite album. It wasn't, it's not the top five.

Yeah. You know what I mean? It wasn't really keeping my attention that much, but I thought it was okay. I should probably listen to it again. The beats for show crazy. This is illuminating, though. I actually didn't know about this. So this is from Complex four days ago.

This is a quote from A. Chike saying, talking about a potential collaboration with Kendrick Lamar, on But But like, he said, we'll see. I was really just keeping my fingers crossed. God, and I hate the way they do this where they just like type out the shit from a fucking podcast and like they credit him, but it's still annoying. Um, okay. So Chike said, and this is before the album came out, I sent the album to Dot and the song is called God's Favorite. He was like, God's Favorite in the back? It's Ratchet. Like, ignorant. Nah, we got to change that. That N-word pushed that shit up to track three, but he knew what he was doing.

He's like, they're going to want this from you for sure. I swear, his words, he said, N-word, you know how many money trees and cartoons and cereal I had to take off my album? And after that, he had me beat. I ain't had nothing else to say. So he took great songs off the album. Is that what that means? So he said God favorite, it was named God Favorite, but it had like a righteous film. He's saying that he had songs on deck that were like ready to.

to go for a good kid mad city that would have pushed it into more of a catchy hit realm but maybe made it be taken less seriously as like an artistic statement which i do think like kendrick is like he's better at making those kind of like ignorant turned up party type songs than he actually wants to like make those songs and that's why when you hear the reference tracks leak of him writing songs for baby keem and you're like oh he's writing like more simplistic, a little bit more turned up songs for other people because he knows that his career that's not maybe like the best look for him. Yeah, well, that's the guy that made to Pipp a butterfly. And it's not him at his best. Why am I going to give you me not at my best? Like, I'm at my

best when I'm in my bag and I don't know. I appreciate someone having like that much. He has a strong artistic statement, but like somebody like Drake is like, I'm going to make crazy pop records and then I'm going to make hard rap songs, and then I'm going to make... Drake, like, makes every genre, whereas, like, hip-hop and R&B is pretty much what Kendrick stays. Yeah, because Drake is a pop star. Well, he chose to be. You know what I mean?

He could have been the kind of artist that Kendrick is, you know? Drake? If he wanted to, like, take 80% of his catalog and remove it, you know? I don't think he could. I mean, Drake is a great lyricist, but I don't think he's able to get in as conceptual of a bag as not. Like, would? Would Drake trying to make extremely like high art projects?

Would him, if he had decided that he didn't want to compete on hits or sales and they wanted to compete on Pulitzer Prizes, you know, could he have been in that arena? I think it could be taken much more serious than that arena. I don't think he wants to because like what's the W to be got from that? Is he intelligent and creative enough? And diverse? Yeah.

If he had taken his energy and put it into that as opposed to making hits, then I think that he would have done a lot better at that. Correct. I don't think it would have been better than Dot. He's not as woke as Dot. No, no, absolutely not. To get more backpacky yet. Well, y'all heard me the other day say that as much as I love Drake

and I've actually been around him in person and worked with him, he don't have music that's moved me as much as money trees or ADHD. Well, I feel like Kendrick could be more of a Drake than Drake could be a Kendrick. I'm just saying that like look at what Kendrick has had to do in order to cultivate the image that he has. He has to go ghost for like years at a time. No, he'll have to. He barely puts himself out there. Yeah, but like that's all part of this image that he has.

The same thing with Cardi. Cardi doesn't do shit. So Cardi has this mystery and this allure about him. Drake, on the other hand is like way more of a normal person. He's like out in the clubs and like hanging out with girls and shooting a million music videos and like doing normal shit. Like Drake at a certain point, Realta is like that he didn't want to like spend all of his time like off social. Like he was like the first rapper I saw where I was like, whoa, you fall of 3,000 people. Well, he started.

Every rapper I knew was trying to be rare by only following zero people or 10 people or whatever. He started off as an actor. Yeah. He started off as an actor. But think about how many opportunities he's turned down to be an actor since then. You don't think he's had like a billion offers for like huge roles. He's done like I think he's actually funny. Do you think, do you think that, do you think that Kendrick is capable of flipping as many genres and styles of Drake?

Yes. And I think when he makes. That's a tall order though. That's a very tall order. He hasn't done it because he can't. Drake did it because he could. If you listen to TNX, you will realize it. TNX is all one song.

It's like all on style song. It's what he's down. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Just like O.T. Genesis, he could rap rap. Yes. He dumped it down. But a lot of cold cold. No, for the jump it down.

And I fuck with O.T. But look out his career is viewed. No. People don't take him serious as like a artistic rapper. They view him as a guy who makes a party song. Kendrick could meet more in that category if he had made his albums more like that. If he valued himself. If he wanted to.

But it might have created more value in a certain way. It's all about what you want a priority. I don't think Kendrick enjoyed doing commercials type music. He's the same guy. He likes making some. He made all right. No, no, no, no, no. But that's a conscious record.

I know. But I'm saying, like, he's take, I think Kendrick accurately knows that, like, to get himself out there fully to be the best artist that he can be, then he's going to have to make some fucking commercial. So he's going to do it so easy. But he's done it so many times. with this. I wouldn't say easy, but he's only done it like a handful. You know how many radio hits he got? I mean, yeah, it's not nothing compared to Drake. It's like one percent of Drake. That's true. That's true. But he's not doing with Drake. But he's the only person that you can compare to Drake, really. I'm saying that that that, that, that Kendrick, he make radio hits.

And it's, I feel like he felt like it's a job to do it. He don't want to, he don't want to do. He's all right, here we go. He makes radio hits on accident. But, but no, no. What the fuck are you guys talking about it? Listen, because we're talking about that once. I'm saying, It's a Pimba butterfly. It's more of what do you enjoy to do? Like, uh, uh, the, uh, the, uh, we, uh, what's the shit called that everybody was playing? That did this, the this. Not like us.

Not like us. He just did that because to feed the people. And that's also, really enjoyed to do. And the fact that he had that content and he's talking about such lofty topics on not like us. And it wound up being such a fucking huge record of such magnitude. I don't think anybody else could do that. But it was also going after the. biggest fucking person.

For sure. Throughout Kendrick's career, he can only get hot when he's doing the beef thing and the disc thing. That's crazy. You would even say that. The control verse and the Drake disc were the two biggest moments in his career. So the song with Beyonce is not. Name a bigger one.

King Kunta, motherfucking. Yes. Yes, I would say it's much, much bigger than that. Be humble swimming pools. You guys are naming random songs. I'm talking about like low bass. Hit records for sure. But as far as being the center of the conversation in hip-hop,

those were the two times that he became the only thing. thinking people talk about. People forget about the fact that like, even on this podcast, we have gone years without having conversations about Kendra. Did you talk about the Black Panther album? Probably. That was a long time ago.

That was like 10 years ago. But it doesn't matter when we're just saying. We didn't really talk about topics, current events on here 10 years ago. But when you mentioned Kendrick, you don't mention that. You know what I mean? Like Black Panther was fucking dope.

I think was it. Okay. I actually know that this is a fact because I looked it up the other day, but the two biggest moments viral-wise in his career are the control verse and then not like us. The other one would be, sit back because we're supposed to be. The other one would be, we go be alright being the theme song for the Black Lives Matter protests.

And that's the only thing that contradicts that. But he is right. Those are the two pinnacles of his career as far as. What do you consider pinnacle? What are we saying? Being the center of hip-hop in the conversation and having everybody talk about you, a lot of the big songs that Kendrick has had are really just big songs that are not, like, constantly talked about by hip-hop fans because they're good songs, but they're not like, politely. polarizing enough that people feel they need to discuss them all the time. Whereas like the control varies, everybody still remembers it to this day.

Everybody talked about it for months when it happened. And same thing with not like us and the whole Drake beef. Y'all not realizing people that got to go to work and people that got to go to work. Like that want to go to work and people that need to go to work. But people in hip-hop, you know, I guess you could like reduce everybody who's interested in beef and drama to like people who are like unemployed. But I mean, we're all like having those kind of conversations all the time. time even if some people opt out

of some percentage of it. When the control verse came out, it literally was the only thing that anybody in hip hop was discussing. Everybody was hoping. Nobody had done anything in that was so long. What if Drake stayed one style? What if Drake didn't go to Houston? What if Drake didn't go to Atlanta? What if he didn't become a community and steal other

people's flows throughout his whole place? He would be a lot more like Hendridge. He wouldn't. He wouldn't be the biggest artist in the world. He wouldn't. What? He wouldn't. If he didn't go to these places and get the flow from these people and have these Have you listened to Drake's like early mixtapes? It's like, you're not a music fan if you can't listen to his early tapes and be like, oh, this is evidently somebody who is incredibly talented.

You guys being willing to take his talent and reduce it down to, oh, he steals people's flows. Haters. Hater energy. But no, no, no, no. So the fact that you can look at what we said as haters shit and you can't look at what you said as haters shit is crazy. No, what I said is a fact that the two biggest moments in Kennedy's career were the two times that he's came out dissing. But you ignore it. fact you can't deny that he he perform the way he dropped the way he dropped because he

won't to why would you say that i think he drops that the rate that he drops because he has to because it's hard for him to make great projects well he also puts he puts so much into the concept and like interweaving themes it wouldn't make sense it would kind of be over it would be overwhelming for the listener i think he also just thinks that by cultivating this aura that he's able to like make it more special when he does draw music it's the same exact logic i was a car Obviously, Cardi got a big album in him right now. He's not dropping it. He would rather wait years and years and then drop a big problem.

You gotta look at it like this. He's so dope. They maddy he don't drop. Right. Look what he said on the league car. I just don't think he has enough dope. Oh yeah, I ain't gonna post. I'm gonna keep my life probably.

Whoopty do or whatever he said to Mariah the scientists about Kendrick not posting. Nika, why are you worried about it? Nigger posting. Why you wanna look at this nigga for? I'm saying, the nigg is so dope. They wait on them so much. They maddy don't. Just like I'm waiting on.

Grabbed no street politic, like, damn. The thing is, if Kendrick put himself out, if Kendrick put himself out there more, you wouldn't think he was so dope. Because he does well when people rarely get to see it. It puts his best foot forward for sure. Look, that's the only way he's been. So how do you know any different?

Well, early in his career. No, no, wait up. He consists of how he's moving. That's the only way he's been. How do you know any different? Because I just think he would do more if he thought that it would be well received by the people. But that's an assumption.

Kendrick's put out a lot of albums that realistically within hip hop. Yeah, maybe some of these albums won fucking Pulitzer's, but within hip hop it was crickets. Nobody talked about. People don't like, like, I love, like, there's not a project Kendrick's done that I don't enjoy. I think Ms. Mr. Brown was his low point. But that's such a different conversation.

Like, you personally enjoying them? Like, no, but what I'm saying is because you don't enjoy it or you don't like it doesn't mean. Okay, the difference between me and you is I'm not talking about my personal opinion. I'm talking about the, the resonance and the. impact that I observed it having during that time. It's not like you saying, I like all Kendrick's albums, is a retort to an argument that I wasn't making it. So was it your personal opinion that you just said Kendrick couldn't do something that he's

never even attempted to do it? I think that if Kendrick could do those things, he would, because everybody tends to like maximize the value of their time as best as possible. If he could play basketball, he would, but he's a football player. But that is a good point, though. Like, what the fuck? When you, when there's a guy in the UFC and people are like, he could. have been number one in the NFL.

Everybody collectively groans because everybody knows that if you could be the number one guy in the NFL, you'd be a fucking retard to be getting your head caved in in the middle of the octagon because you make way more money in the NFL. And that's exactly the same argument that I'm making with Kendrick is that if Kendrick wanted to drop an album every, if Kendrick could drop an album every year, he probably would. I don't really think he's got that much fire material in him and he's never proven it if he has. Usually it takes him what, like an average of like three, four, four.

years to drop an album? That's your, but that's your personal opinion. But you say that's your personal opinion after I state an objective fact, which is that he takes extremely long gathers. No, that's a fact. He does a fact?

I think he chose to do that. But you have, but does it not surprise you that, like, as Jake fans, everybody kind of appreciates the fact that he drops a lot, young boy fans, they appreciate that he drops a lot. Kendrick fans, yeah, I guess it's cool to, like, have the scarcity principle in effect, but ultimately at the end of the day,

Do I think that there's like huge amounts of Kendrick music that would absolutely go crazy and rock the charts that he's just not dropping? Not really. I think he would probably put it out. But he does, look, of his five major releases, he has two hip-hop classics, two undebatably great albums

and one that is very polarizing. What is you talking about, Miss Morale? A lot of those albums are trash. But you can agree, he's polarizing, though. It's polarizing. When Cardi B didn't drop, album for eight years. Why does she not drop out? Because she couldn't get a hit. She couldn't get a hit. She was waiting to get a hit. When Jay-Z hasn't dropped the album in 10 years, why? Because he can't get

hot. No, because he got businesses and shit. He's doing other shit. You don't think that he would like to like take advantage of the last 10 years of his life. But not music, he don't got it in him. He don't, he's, it's hard to put out music. Like when you actually care about the music doing well, it is fucking hard to land on a style and a sound that the fans are actually going to react to. That's good. Like you said, when you care about it doing well, bro, it's a young man's game. Kendrick really cares about it doing well. Jay Z years. Why would he made Jay Z need to just kick back and do what he's doing to Super Bowl? I agree. He's like 60. But look at him now. He's heating up for another run. He wants to drop another project.

He's going to disappoint himself. But that's what he's doing. Like everybody, everything will perosis the album? Everything is pointing towards Jay Z dropping an album this year. I personally think that the reaction is probably not going to be able to be what he wants. But if it is, so if it is a great album, everything you say is wrong, but it's just an assumption. But what I'm saying isn't wrong if he drops a great album. I'm saying I think that he can't drop one. That's just me predicting it. So I can't be wrong. Like 50 cents said he's not trying to outdo itself.

He came out and what? Did he go diamond? Who? 50. Yeah, 50 is a great example. 50 stopped dropping music at the exact moment that he couldn't make music that resonated with the people anymore. And he was smart enough to know when to walk away. Yeah.

didn't make the decision. The fans made the decision. No, he did. The fans didn't give a fuck about 50s music anymore. I know because I was a 50-7 fan. He's a fan. I'm listening to him. But I had not listened to him for a couple years before that.

He said he pivoted. But bro, people are always going to attribute it to choice when it's actually about the environment. But what you're saying is subjective in your opinion. Why do you guys keep saying that like you're making a point? Because I'm going off of what he's saying. The reason how he mapped his career out. Listen, though. Every conversation must.

must lead to every road must lead to, well, that's just your opinion. Can we just like X that one out? You're a first one to say to that. So why you skipping over the things I say and then just go back to like my retort to you? Well, okay, what do you want to respond to? I'm saying that he said in this interview, like he did what he can to do, what I'm a, and then he's aging and he pivoted. I know, but the fact that he's aging is why Jay-Z probably should not have taken the last 10 years off.

And if he had dope music, I think he would have put it out. Because why the fuck would he have not? You try to drop that free sale. Yeah, but that's like, what is that? The things they're doing, why they're taking the time off is the reason why these rappers is broke because they should be doing what they doing, taking the time off and do something else.

Because if you're all your time on music, you're going to be ass at the end of the road. But what does Rock Nation do? They manage like fucking 10 artists or something. Only like three of them you've heard of. Yeah, well, he's working on other ventures. But as far as like Kendrick being able to do what Drake does, earlier y'all said and it was a good point kendrick's capable of doing those turn-up music songs and

shit like that but he chooses not to why because it's not in a line with his branding drake his branding accommodates that type of shit so he's able to drop as much as he wants and the people want it and they expect him to flip different styles and genres and things like that so thus he's able to do that and kendrick is not because his branding doesn't accommodate drake just dropped like 60 songs that realistically went over pretty well you think that Kedrick has seriously drives 60 songs. Well, back then, though, early, prior to Good Kid Mad City,

he was on an insane run with tapes and he was dropping very frequently several times a year, dedicated, yeah, a long time ago. I'm just like another world, you know. Yeah, yeah, it was a very different climate. He could do a few years ago. He could do that.

But what did you just do a few years ago? Put out like 14 good songs on one album? That was what? The number one album, right? Yeah, yeah, but that's very different. But you can't, the thing is, the comparison to Jay-Z is like, he's not Jay-Z,

he's not rust and he's not a dinosaur. He just showed that he can do it. For sure. You know what I mean? He can still make albums that people want to listen to. Absolutely. That's not up for debate. But to drop every year, have several hits and kind of push the entire culture musically

forward. I don't know. He hasn't exhibited the ability to. And I don't know if I think Kendrick very deliberately drops when he knows the climate will be receptive to it. So you think Iceman, so you think Iceman is the best. album.

Is one of the best for the year? Yes. Without question. So have you listened to Jay Cole? Yeah. And you will put Ice Man for real up against rap, rapping as Jay Cole on this. But that's not what we're talking about.

But I'm just saying. But I'm saying like, there's a lot of albums. You guys are talking about him like his is God level type shit. No, no. I said push the culture forward musically. That's exactly what I said. So how do he push it forward with Iceman? Like, do you feel like multiple ways?

Do you feel like the Jay Cole album had like any cultural resonance? Hell yeah. I haven't heard of fucking people. peep outside of that Honda breaking out or whatever. Are you talking about in his songs? Are you talking about people? I'm talking about the reaction that you really heard from the fans. And I acknowledge that, yeah, his fans were hyped and it sold well to his fans or whatever.

But as far as like the outside world of hip-hop reacting to the J-Cole album, I would say that the reaction might have constituted like one or two percent of the conversation that took place about the Drake drop. But does that what you value in the album? What other people think? Okay, so opinion of the album is objective, and that is opinion. And that's what I just asked less. Okay, so I got you.

But what I'm trying to say is that one thing that is a lot less objective is how much a part of the conversation that album ends up being. And I think it's safe to say that the Drake album is probably a hundred times more of a impact of the culture and was more of a talking point. The J-Cola album we did not talk about on this podcast. The impact of the culture of a majority of the people who don't even know the- Drake changed the sonic tapestry of the way people are listening to the music, the way that that hook was mixed on Janice. The way, like there's so many different things that he did that was very progressive.

And I feel like you just kind of like throw like a blanket insult on rap fans to just be like, the average person, listen to that shit doesn't even know about the culture. Sure, whatever. Yeah, there's a lot of low information voters out there, but it doesn't change the fact that like the resonance is the resonance. Yes,

the average hip-hop fan is not a hardcore hip-hop fan. Right. And so what I'm saying, so you're trying to base the culture. You keep saying culture. But we can even talk about just like that. But we could talk about it. So how do you keep bringing up culture if they don't know it? But we could isolate this conversation to the people who, without question, know the culture. How many times you think that Ebro talked about the Drake Rollout or the Drake Rollout or the Drake album versus the Jake Album?

Well, yeah, the Rollout. It's probably 10x. But that's probably 10. It's arguably the best rollout in hip hop history. I said Rollout. I meant album. But all I'm saying is that like if we. if we isolate it down to like name your top 20 hip hop commentators anyone and it could be all

the people that I don't like it doesn't you can take academics off you can take me off does not matter the J-gob got a hundred times more conversation than J-Cola um amongst the elite as well as the proletariat but that's that's not what we tap it in the personality and like like like you know what I mean cultural impact is the thing that I think is like the most important when evaluating which album made the most cultural impact. Jay Cole, that's better than Drake, but that's not what we're talking about. That's crazy.

But, I mean, I don't think that's crazy. But when you say culture impact, like you say moving the culture forward, what, like, what do you face? I mean, I think making popular music, I think making popular music in general, like kind of pushes the culture forward because music's not going to be able to become very popular

unless it in some way pushes the culture forward. If it feels completely redundant and repetitive, it's just not going to become a hit record. So what do you just call it? Like, underage- What is it? Pop. Pop.

Popular culture forward. Which hip-hop is a part of? I'm trying to tell you is that he is in another realm of the music that he's making. He's doing pop culture shit. He's doing shit that's popular. And Kendrick's not when he's performing at the Super Bowl. To the masses of people. At the Super Bowl.

The biggest event of the year. That's not. I'm saying like, if Kendrick has been given the same level of attention that Drake has been given. You won't even let me finish the statement. Okay. Spit it out of that. Like. get to it well Drake was

Drake was rapping over more samples and loops and things that are traditionally defined as hip hop than Kendrick was but rapping better overall he's saying pop culture moving forward what had a more cultural impact like that's the argument is pop culture I don't know if that's confusing he's saying different things like you know

yeah these are we're having four conversations obviously any rap album that gets so big that it's going to be considered the biggest rap album of the year is obviously going to have to overlap into the pop world and that's true of GNX as well. A lot of the songs of GNX became huge pop hits. Drake could drop a fucking fucking

bum album. It's going to sell more albums than any other rap artists this year. But I'm saying besides Kendrick. Besides Ice Man or what? I'm just saying like Kendrick sells a lot of albums too. So is Jay Cole. But what I'm saying is even though even if he dropped some garbage, some hot

shit, it would still be popular. But then if he did that then the whole conversation is going to be about what a bum-ass album was and that wasn't the conversation And like I've heard very few people really have like negative takes about Iceman. I didn't like Iceman. I thought it was great. Okay, but why do I say about like the hole?

And then you're like, why didn't like? You said you never heard anybody have a point out that. I'm surprised you hear that for me. But you have a separate opinion and you feel like that's a rebuttal to the hole, which is like, that it did unbelievably well. Somebody say that they didn't like Iceman and I give you the fucking answer. Okay. Well, if you had that opinion and you were keeping that. But you were keeping that to yourself.

But you're doing like the thing of like not. understanding statistics. No, I just broke it down. You're like flexing and not getting stats. But what about, okay, also when I say, I've never heard anybody say they don't like guys, man, obviously I'm being hyperbolic. I heard some people say they don't like it. I just feel like the response to it was overwhelmingly positive.

I mean, but also what about the fact that what about the fact that Drake had beats from conductor Williams, who's an underground hip hop producer and is, was wrapping over loops and samples and doing things that are way more, like I said, in the vein of traditional hip hop than anything Kendrick did on GNX. Why are you just stuck on being GNX though? That was his last album. I think that's kind of a fair comparison. Y'all going, you're going, I spent the GNX?

No, no, no, no, no, no. No, but I'm just, okay, you're right. We don't even need to mention GNX. Yeah, you're right. A big-ass Ali-o? No, you're right. Of any mainstream album currently. This family is on the brink of Civil War.

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And light. Kendrick process, bro? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Now you're really moving the goalpost? Yeah, but like that. No, because there was. He's talking about.

He's talking about loops and see. Loops are more a part of traditional hip-hop. Okay. Listen to what he said, which is the point that I didn't think that we had to explain. Loops are more of a part of traditional hip-hop. I'm telling you what he said. Yes. I didn't think I had to explain it because it's so obvious.

Yes. Live instrumentation is less hip-hop than using loops. Like, think about the origins of hip- Hit Bob. Break beats and samples. Literally. That's where it started. The Sugar Hill gang rapping over Sheik freak out and flipping that.

That's a loop. That's a sample. Just to stay directly on what I was. Moving it forward by staying the same. You can't talk at the same time. We got to one. Moving forward by staying the same. Well, making an homage while at the same time pushing things forward and using new techniques,

that is very progressive, actually, while staying hip-hop. And you really like pointed to us to me when we listen to the Drake album live, which is that from the perspective of a real hardcore lyricist, I think that when you remove all of the mystery and all of the aura, that the way that Drake wraps and what he does with wordplay is actually far more impressive than when Kendrick does. When it comes to like a battle rap, like if you ask any popular battle rapper, top tier battle rapper, they're going to be more lenient to the way Drake uses wordplay and punch lines and different literature. devices. Then Kendrick, who has an amazing cadence, a very nimble flow, flips his voice and does a lot of sound effects when he wraps. But Drake hits you with punchlines and bars. A little bit more simple, well, I wouldn't even say it's more simple. How could you listen to what he just says and say a little bit more simple? It's kind of the opposite. That has to be one of the craziest things I ever heard. What you're saying is that it's easily digestible, right? No.

I think it's kind of the opposite. For battle wrap and for it to hit, it doesn't need to be digestible. in the context of battle rap is more digestible in the sense that the people have to be able to understand it at some point i'm talking to you now yeah yeah because what what you're saying is i'm talking about that i'm combating that you said what he did is is more like battle rap artists were more aligned with what he's talking about draig flips polysyllabic rhyme schemes he's rhyming three four five words yes he's he's using double entendres he's he has a lot of different devices that are defined as okay look at like guys like Mickey Fax, who has an entire school dedicated to lyricism and breaking down what makes

lyrics great and rappers good. That is literally leaning way more into what Drake does than what Kendrick does is more similar to Buster Rhymes or Twista or people that just flip their flow and sound cool when they rap. And Kendrick marries that with a lot of deep depths and ill concepts and things like that. But Drake is actually just hitting you over the head with bars. Drake got more wit and Kendrick is more informal. Yeah, well, like his whole third verse was a history lesson on.

A hundred percent. Drake has such an ability to make hit records that people tend to just like sort of automatically discount his lyrics. But then when you actually listen to a lot of the deep cuts on Iceman, it is kind of like stunning the amount of effort that he puts into his wordplay. Just because I feel like it's probably lost on the vast majority of his fans. I don't think he like really like has to do that. I think he probably over-emphasizes it in a lot of ways, but it does kind of, like, cultivate the way that his fans are where they're, like, really rabid

and really, like, want to, like, pick apart every last reference. The only thing I was trying to say, would you say, what he don't, I say he capable, and he just don't want to. That's what I'm saying. When you say, Kendrick don't do things, I'm saying, he capable of doing it, and he just don't want to. That's the only thing I was trying to get across. I'm just saying that if he wants to put out a radio hit,

a party hit, he could do it. I think he enjoyed doing what I call weirdo music because I didn't enjoy Pimp the Butterfly I like all his commercial music and all that shit but when he felt like doing it he could do it you know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm trying to say. I just think you guys give him that out

which is to say like yeah it would be like if everybody at this table made $10 million a year and there's one guy who made a million dollars a year and we're like yeah but he chooses to make a million dollars a year he just want to make a million dollars like he likes it He would just rather have a million.

Ten million is crazy. My whole thing is just a million. It's disingenuine to say that Kendrick is a much better rapper than Drake when Drake has more bars than Kendrick. Man, he has more punches. He has more bars. Kendrick might have a lot more depth than his music, a lot more concepts. It might be more meaningful. Let's see Drake make a rigormortus.

He would have a hard time doing that. Yeah, he would. But what's Rigormort is heavily relying on? A nimble flow. Well, who does he have on the remix? Buster Rhymes? Who did I make the comparison with it? Who can make, who can do a better job of doing the other person?

That's the whole point. Like, that's the whole point. Who is? Imagine Kendry making an apropete song. Give me the option. Who could do a better job that could do the other one? Okay, what's harder? One person does two genres and one person does like almost every genre.

Wait. Here's the thing. Kendrick used to try to flip that style back in the day. I'm not saying that. And he was getting outshined by his own homies because Absole does what I've described. Exactly. No, but his own homies. The direct question.

No, the answer is Drake. Drake is better at flipping different styles, which I said from the beginning. I mean, no rapper has ever had more of a reputation for being able to do a lot of different styles. It's to the point where he's maligned over it. Yeah, I'm sure I've heard Game make a lot of Afro beat songs. No, yeah.

I'm not going to Game put out a club album. Game has literally two bags. I've heard Game get on so many New York drill beats. Yeah, no, Game has a New York bag and a West Coast bag, and that's it. What I enjoy about Drake is what you guys are saying. I enjoy the digestible music. I enjoy that.

I get to listen to it and I hear it clearly and the consumable part. That's what I like about Drake. You listen to Kendrick when you miss college. No, I listen to Kendrick when I'm with my wife and when I'm chilling and I'm just in the front. You want to be lectured to a little bit? Miss college.

This is crazy. I listen to Kanye for that. I watch the Spoetic Justice channel when I want to get that Kendrick effect of like having like somebody yell at me about politics. What do you do when you listen to music? What do you do when you listen to rap? It depends on what you look at you.

I primarily use my ears. But what are you doing? A lot of things. Like what? Like almost everything. I don't know. It's like such a fucking lame baiting question. I don't want to answer it.

You want me to name everything that I do in my life. If you out with the bitches who you slap and drink or drink. Okay, boom. This is an easy question, but why is it so hard for you to say something? For me to acknowledge that there are things that I do in my life because it's such a stupid question. Obviously, I listen to music when I do everything. Can't drink's house cleaning music? If I'm not pot.

It's chilling with your wife. And it's chilling like over here doing this. Like I listen to different types of music for different things. You must not love your wife because that is fucked up. You're scaring the hose. Playing Mr. Morales. You're scaring the hose. Putting Kendrick on around girls is like seriously like asking them to not fucking.

Maybe that's what you do with a girls. My wife has never ever, ever listen to a Kendrick Lamar album. I believe you. Ever. But somebody would appreciate a Q50. I've never listened to Q50 where they're either. Let's go. So Mikey mom did

Yeah That's cool But I've never I don't listen to Q50 With my wife either for the record But what I'm saying is There's different music for different things When you're chilling and doing stuff

Like you know I don't always want to listen to some Some Wu-Tang or But that's a pro-Drake argument Because Drake makes all different kinds of music Kendrick is kind of one note in comparison But he doesn't make you sit And for me Drake doesn't make me sit and chill

And think and be on some elevated shit No yeah no Kendrick's way headier But Drake is, I think, technically, like, the more complex rapper. Your problem is that you can't take the compliment of what I'm saying. He's obtuse. He's intentionally being obtuse and not understanding. And you know enough about lyricism to get that point. But I just told you that's what I enjoy about this fucker.

But that's not what I enjoy Kendrick for. I enjoy Kendrick for what I enjoy it for. But I'm mature enough to say that I think they're both fucking dope as fuck. Right. But motherfucking Drake is for one thing. and Kendrick is for another thing when I want to be on some well in elevator

it's like this what though but Adam take a stairs if you fuck with Drake it's fuck Kendrick no it's not never have to be right that is insane

I have talked on this podcast at length about how much I like G&X how many Kendrug I have a lot of respect for Kendrick you're totally painting me with a false brush it's okay to love both

it's okay to love both and gave him a history book and gave him a pointer to point it to talk about he makes Pulitzer Prize ass music But then you debunk how many radio hits he got. Man, this is the same commercial. What are you talking about?

I can acknowledge he has a lot. Number one, didn't say anything about that. Number two, yeah, obviously he has huge radio hits. I'm just saying Drake has infinitely more. This is the same argument people used to make about Jay Z and Nas. And Jayze is Drake and Kendrick is Nas. Yeah, it's eerie how similar is. It's the same exact thing.

And Nas will take something that's very simple and rap about it in a very complicated way, kind of like Kendrick does. And Drake will take something very complicated and crystallize him to its most simple form. Okay. In 2026, nobody argues that Nas has a better back catalog than Jay-Z. Because he's not the commercial type dude. He chose to be the-buttal.

But that doesn't matter. As far as, like, because we have a lot of distance on the Jay-Z and Nas thing. Like, obviously Kendrick and Drake, their careers are, like, still unfolding and they're more recent and everything. But as much as Nas had, like, was generally viewed to have won the battle, And as much as Nas has had all the respect for being the hardcore lyricist or whatever, Jay-Z is regarded as having the far-superior catalog, the far-superior hits, the far-superior classic albums.

And guess what? I don't think you find anybody to argue that. Well, Jay-Z never made an Illmatic and Drake never made a good kid Mad City. He does not have an album close to that. We- No, he doesn't. They all have classic albums that take care is infinitely more impactful long-term. They talk about battles and wars. Take care is more impactful than good kids.

I don't know about now. It's still like on the charts right now. Perhaps commercially. I'm saying that's the impact. But overall, Good Kid Mad City is still considered one of the 20, 10 to 20 best albums in hip hop history. Those two albums are probably like pretty neck and neck in terms of like cultural impact and like classic signature debut albums. No, I would say Good Kid Mad City definitely gets the edge on that. And I was just like Illmatic is better than reasonable doubt.

No, Take Care is a great album. Reasonable Doubt is a great. I say don't you can't take anything Yeah reasonable doubt even though illmatic Illmatic a better album yes for sure Like significantly yeah and just Reasonable doubt kind of I mean It's got a bunch of good songs but let's be real it's kind of cringe

What is reasonable doubt No I love reasonable doubt The beats age like milk and shit It's just like the sound sonically Has not aged as well as Illmatic To me Elmatic sounds more like something that I could see people Wanting to listen to in this day and age Would you say Nass is?

is more musically inclined. Well, I mean, yeah, but that album came out. He didn't make the beats, you know. He just had some of the greatest beats of all time. Pete Rock and DJ premiere and literally the best, cue tip. He had the best production lineup in history on that album. That's why. Large professor.

Hey, but guess what? When he felt like it, he could make an Ochi Wallywally. Right. I mean, like it. And that's kind of similar to Dot, right? And that's what I said. When he felt like he, and that's what I'm trying to point out, he do shit because he felt like it.

But there's a lot of elements of rapping that Jay-Z is far superior. to Nas that he doesn't get credit for, much like Drake doesn't get the credit he deserves and being better than Kevin. But what's another thing that Jay-Z gets that Drake gets? Money. And holes. But that a lot of biggie flow,

a lot of this, a lot of taking it, a lot of taking that. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing because it does submit your future, you know what I mean? And Nas has a song where he's a gun, and he is another song where he wraps backwards, the story back to front. Like he did a lot of things that Kendrick, or Kendrick-esque. And so the, I never did that.

I never, like, put them up against each other. Like, in comparison, it's a great comparison. Oh, yeah. I think it's uncanny. It's been so stunningly clear to me throughout the battle that this is, like, the exact same thing. And I also think they're, like, understanding the Jay and Nas situation is, like, instructive when it comes to understanding how things are going to play out in the long run, which is that in the long run, once we have more perspective, it's going to be obvious.

that a Drake kind of like unfairly lost the battle off of the charisma that Ether had at that time Oh he's talking about Jay Jay Oh yeah yeah sorry that But I would say that the same thing Okay so clearly I think It's almost like a majority opinion at this point

that Jay-Z kind of unfairly lost the battle against Nas And that really if you look at those songs objectively I don't go for it I think in the long run Even I'm seeing it happen now that like Drake's songs from that period of time are being viewed more favorably and people kind of look at it as almost like simplistic

to say like, oh, not like us came out and that was just the end of everything. Like Drake put out a lot of great records in that time period. But I think in the long run, when you really look at the careers of Drake and Kendrick, it's going to be so unbelievably obvious

who had the better overall career. Well, Jay Z hasn't dropped. Nas just dropped. Well, yeah, Nas has a lot of longevity. But what does Nas do? Nas drops albums, he doesn't give a fuck about how they sell, which is something that I think Jay-Z's ego is too big to do that.

I like to not give a fuck about the sale, though. I know. I think it's dope too. But then once you drop an album and I don't know what Nas does, but maybe it does 15K in this climate like first week, that, from Jay-Z's perspective, he cannot handle that. That is way too crazy of a blow to his ego. I even feel like Jay-Z probably doesn't want to drop

because he's not going to be in the like 200K-plus club. Or maybe he is. But like I feel like, I feel like he's not going to like the visual of him selling distinctly less than Kendrick and Drake. He wants to be viewed as top tier. He's been wanting to retire. Like the motherfucking black album was supposed to be his last album. That was 2004.

He was trying to retire after reasonable doubt. Like he was talking about it and like seating that like that long ago. Yeah. Well, really like the black album was when he's like, okay, I'm fading to black. This is the end of my career. Like you're going to appreciate me more after I'm gone. And granted, a lot of people knew that it was bull. And it was kind of a marketing strategy, but that is he's been wanting to retire for a long time because of exactly what Adam said.

He would rather be at the top of his game when he drops, as opposed to doing like what he was talking about with 50 cent who kind of his sales were dwindling. He was losing relevance and importance. He lost the battle to Kanye with the sales. And that's the, that's the best argument for like why Jay-Z took 10 years off that isn't that he can't make hot music. the best argument is to say he never wanted to be that guy anyway. And he's also 60 years old and a billionaire. He's a 60 year old billionaire. I was just thinking it right now, like, you know what?

Maybe that was never the direction he wanted to go. But like you said, 200,000, Jay-Z is going to sell a lot of albums, no matter how to album comes out, because it stands and fans that are going to want to do that. You know what I mean? They're going to support Jay-Z. But I don't think if he had a cracking ass album, I would love that shit for him.

I have a slap and reasonable doubt when I leave, by the way. The thing about being 52 or whatever is that like every year that goes by, it gets harder and harder for the world to imagine you putting out an album that people give a fuck about. You know, like even when he put out four-for-four-four, it was like, you know, it felt like an old head put out of an album. It was a dope contemporary. And it was dope. It was not trash.

Yeah, that's crazy. But it was a popular album. It was well-liked. It got very, like, resoundingly positive commercial response. It sold pretty well. But ultimately, Like, even at that time, it just felt like, wow, this guy's old. By the way, much of he hates East Coast music, he said it before.

You don't even like New York music. I think when you get that age, you shouldn't be competing and worried about numbers that much because it's a young man's game. Well, but to be fair, he just put an album out. It's not like you really did anything to, like, indicate that he cared about. When you were a legitimate. O.G, you shouldn't be worried about. But Jay-Z's whole career has been like an expert managing of his image, you know? like Beyonce I'm sure he's in love with her or whatever but like that clearly was like the best thing that he could possibly do when he left dame I was watching a dame interview today where he talks about this on art of dialogue or some shit where dame says that when jay cut him loose he came to him and said I want to be viewed as a boss and I don't think I could or as a businessman rather and I don't think I can be viewed as a business and while I continue to be working with you which is a pretty brutal thing to say but obviously it was clearly true but that that shows you that in like

like 2001 that Jay-Z was that concerned with managing his reputation and his image. He's just not the kind of guy that's going to leave that shit to chance. Remember the clips of him with Dame? Like where he's clearly super annoyed. Dames like talking about all the big shit they got popping and Jay's like rolling his eyes next to him. I mean, Dame was the kind of pompous asshole that it's hard to imagine any rapper being able to tolerate in the long run. Well, also.

No, yeah, yeah, Harlem and Brooklyn. But the thing is, Jay was very opportunistic. He basically had Dame as his bulldog was able to maintain all these great relationships in the industry because it was Dame that was pissing everything off. 4J, trying to gain leverage 4J.

And then he's kicked him to the curb and then was able to go off on his own. I've been in that position like actually early days in November with somebody that I won't name. But like I had an employee who like a real employee. I'm not talking about a podcast host. But he basically like at the exact time that I stopped doing drugs,

stop drinking, started living like, like a way more normal life started like really working hard on the business of no jumper. This motherfucker gets like way more into drinking lean and being fucked up all the time and shit like that. Easiest person I ever fired. Because when I'm trying to clean up my life and I'm looking at you like the one who's like not dragging me back into it because I didn't give a fuck what he was doing. But like your lack of professionalism just gets magnified so much when the boss is like

trying to be more professional. Yeah. Because the mirror is up at that point. Yeah. It's like, holy fuck. Yeah. So you said the 52-year-old thing, how did you guys feel about

let God sort them out? How did you feel about the Clips album? I thought it was a great album. Okay. I thought it was a great album, but I also thought that the reaction to it was kind of manufactured. I think that like the old guard of hip-hop media

came together with the Rock Nation side of things and they really like painted a picture of the album being more impactful than it actually was. but that being said I'm a huge clips fan my whole life You're from the blog area You remember they were the media

Darlings they were literally The hipster rappers of choice But when you see them like Winning album of the year Or whatever Are people arguing this shit Win album of the year Over albums that from my perspective

Were just massively like more impactful And I hate that I feel like Elio Wilson now because I keep saying impactful But you know what I mean Like it's like I feel like With the clips There's a sense that

This album has been talked about so much in the media that it must be the biggest album of the year. And in reality, what determines what's the biggest album of the year should be based on the people in the streets. And realistically, the sound of the streets is not push it to you at 47. Well, that's the thing, though. A lot of the media that were extolling the virtues of that album are 47. That's why it resonated with them. And because there are very few young people in hip-hop media for obvious reasons, they're dumb and they can't talk. No offense, I would hire you if there was any other. version of that but like the albums that they love get discounted on a on a on a critical level

because the people who are like really driving the narrative are oftentimes older well yeah because there's a lot of dudes like coming from the newer scene like the dudes like leo dudes like b6 and shit like that who don't get mentioned who should get way more press who should be in those conversations but i i would argue that a lot of the top media platforms aren't even aware they exist I don't know who the what you're talking about. Yeah, but... There you go. I heard you said his B6 name before.

He's raw as fuck. He dropped an amazing record this year. And you do know who he is because we've talked about him and those, when you had the kids on the little underground podcast, they were talking about him too. Hey, so we can acknowledge this such thing as a popular vote. You know what I mean? And if you ain't like really commercial with it, there ain't nobody who'll give a fuck. Because push the tea clearly smoked drake.

Just recently. But nobody cared because he's not the polished... He did. I mean, I would say nobody cares. Probably, like, one of the most talked about hip-hop beast of all time. Probably one of the most- It wasn't even effective. Proxposing Drake's kid was, like, one of the most impact.

What? I mean, that- You just can't beat Drake. You're not going to beat him to a pope. It didn't, like, destroy Drake's career. Even Kendrick, who's like a way more formidable foe than Pusha T. Wasn't able to destroy Drake's career. But I think when people look at that, I mean, like,

Pusha got more of a W than anybody up to that point until Kendrick. People don't care about good rapping, really. Like a lot of the best disc tracks get really overlooked. Like the game, pest control against Meek Mill. No one gives a fuck about that song. No one gives a fuck about that beef. But that was he destroyed Meek Mill on that song. Eradicated him.

Gossip and hit records are way more important when it comes to like how well regarded a disc record is. But that doesn't change the fact that like, you know. But real musicians are you going to find out the remedy of making a hit song slash hit disrecord. people got a bob to it and shake ice stuff. Just being good at rapping is almost never going to win you a wrap battle. I'm going to take your head off and take it to the back and slam it like Shaq. All that shit is played out. Like, okay.

Hit them up, ether and not like us. They have a lot in common. Oh, okay. Really the West Coast. Take this though. What about after, okay, Kendri Josh is not like us. Everybody goes crazy for it. And let's say that the aces of his sleeves that Drake was kind of promising.

that he had were real. Let's say that the next song Drake drops, he drops undeniable proof that Dave Free is the father to one of Kendry's kids. That's a way gnarlier reveal than Drake having a secret kid because really having a secret kid

is kind of like whatever. That would be gnarly. It's embarrassing, I know, but I'm just saying like if that was true because Drake was kind of, like let's say that Drake was able to take huge hit record, not like us, and be like, okay, in response,

here's the most insane gossip that is like so damaging to how people view you would it would have been able to in any way outweigh not like us which was a huge hit record but didn't really like drop that much that like really landed in terms of like personal attacks it would have to sound really good or else or else because basically what because what push the tea did was essentially Wendy Williams type material oh guess what guys Guess what? Oh, 40's got cancer or he's got a disease. Kendrix was kind of lacking in that regard because yes, he did like have the pedophile bars, but then like there wasn't really like any evidence that came after that.

I love it. It was just damaging angle, huh? You call it Whitney Williams? Yes. That's better wrap, though, doing your homework in coming at you. Right, but it has to be. Well, it was at a point, but then at a certain point, people kind of evolved past that in personal attacks.

weren't as impactful as just rapping really good. But also, like, for example, there's this famous battle, Big K versus Adi Boom, right? Where he wound up exposing him as a snitch and passed out the paperwork. A lot of y'all seen it was a viral clip. The snitch boy, snitch boy. The only reason that hit the way it did is because not only was it very damaging information, but he delivered it in such a dope way.

And the actual rapping was on such a high level. So that's not Wendy Williams either, right? It is, but it has to be Wendy Williams. It has to sound good. That was my whole point. But was this face-to-face battle? Yes, that was a face-to-face battle. The thing about battle rap is that you're just not going to be able to bust out, like, revealing expose-style info every battle.

Right. And a lot of these battles, like, I thought battle-rub was so much cooler, like, when I was younger, when I thought that these dudes hated each other and the battling I actually seemed more rare. And then as I got older and I realized, like, oh, fuck. like Gichi Gatti's battling a motherfucker like every two weeks. That just kind of like made it lose some of the allure that I have. Gigi's a great example. What about when like the whole Gitchie versus easy battle though

when he was on as a prop. Correct. Like that right there, that was super impactful. And if you can bring that in, for sure that's going to be massively meaningful. All the Crip shit in battle wrapping, like people seeming more menacing

or like having a bigger gang with them or whatever. Like that shit does move the needle with them. For sure. For sure. What was the guy's name? that came had the suit on and he was like loaded lulled lucks yeah that one with with buster rhymes up yeah yeah yeah yeah like what he did you go get this work you gonna get this work that shit was one of the coldest shit he was talking about his father your father should have you got yeah yeah

yeah i was like okay when we talk about the old days of lush when you were still drunk we should call you loaded lush i've definitely heard that before i fucks but load you feel like you're you're good now you're like not gonna relapse i'm not gonna relapse but that's only because i put such an insane amount of effort every single day. My disease takes no days off. My enemies take no days off. My demons take no days off. So I can't. Like even when I'm tired, no matter what's going on. But you're still staying in the sober living spot? Yeah. I live in a sober living house. And you don't have your apartment or you do? No, that's gone now. Oh, okay. That's literally my residence is a sober living house. So when you move out of the sober living where you're going to move? I'm actually

when I move out of the sober living house, I'm moving into a sober apartment. That's still affiliated with that where I'm still going to be drug tests. And I'll probably be within that system for the remainder of the year. I mean, I don't mean just this year. I mean like for the next year type of. Okay. That's sick. Hey, you should take the Whitney Williams shit back and that's what battle rap is built off of and they do homework and they do. Okay, but do you not understand what he meant. No, I feel like it's pretty easy to understand it. Okay. In battle rap, there is a lot of people who over the years have had extremely viral moments from exposing each other and bringing out information that they were able to research and come up with that the fans didn't know about. What do you know?

But it has to be wrapped in a good. No, no, listen. Not muchy. I said that because I'd be like, my whole point, and what I brought up, Wendy Williams, I said, it would have to be done in a way where it's really good rapping and it was creative and it was dope. Or else Wendy Williams would be the best rapper and make the best disc tracks if it was just based on salacious information being offered.

It would have to be done in a creative way. Oh, so you're saying that Pugetit and delivered. He did. No, I think that was a great disc track. And he smoked Drake, undeniably. He won. And it wasn't just based on him revealing crazy information. It was the fact that he did it in such a creative way.

That's why that song was impactful. Because Pusherty is very cerebral and he knows how to attack and he knows how to battle. There's many elements to it. It's chest not checkers. Do you think this battle with the latest, the Drake shit, with the G&X and all that stuff? And Drake surviving that shit, dropping Iceman and doing FOMO, do you think that Drake has like just submitted himself as in like, nigga, I am unbeatable.

I'm unstoppable. Well, yeah, like whatever, whatever. He's kind of like Wolverine. He's like Wolverine. He's sustained a very damaging blow and bounced back when a lot of people had counted him out. I knew he was going to be straight. Yeah, but there was a lot of people in L.A. rap media making statements that in retrospect seemed pretty freaking hilarious.

Oh, he's finished. He's out of here. The Dejan, or the tweet, or the Instagram post that Dejohn did of an old DJ head tweet where he was saying, like, this energy of Kendrick and G&X, like, This shit gonna last forever. Like, the West Coast is back. And it's just like literally nothing has happened since then. People were writing checks.

They couldn't cash, that's for sure. Munchy's going to try to argue about bringing some random shit. Like, you can't cancel the nigga, bro. You can't, you can't tell me all, oh, you finish. It's not possible. He lost, but he can't finish him. Like, people who made that argument at the time now want to act like they never made that argument. No other rapper has been attacked that brutally since J'Rul.

and Jarl Ruhul did not come back from it. Fire Festival, like he had a bunch of stuff. Fire Fest was way after the fact. What about Spotum got him? He just kept going lower and lower. Spot him got it worse. Jaru had it worse for sure because in the beginning, it was neck and neck. Okay, but to be fair, Jarlane got it from like one dude and one rap crew, but like really

kind of like one dude. Yeah, Tony Yeo's shooting at him, Lloyd Banks, Eminem at bars for a little. We need Eminem and then Buster rhymes hopped in the room that they wrapped over the Hail Mary beat. It was impressive, but it really is like a pretty small group of people in comparison to how many people teamed up against Drake. Right. No, no, for sure. Game help. There's a lot. Yeah, there was a lot of.

Yeah, but I'm saying that's like, almost nobody really like actively like got behind Drake. Hey, Rapper was. Do you think anybody's even paying attention to the mother niggas talking on the side other than, uh, Drake and Kendrick? Nobody was paying attention. Because who have significance? Metro, Kanye, future. Nobody listened to Kanye. Yeah.

Metro. Like, it's it. You basically have to list off like all the biggest rappers. A sap Rocky. You too many shit. You think people listen to a Kanye diss towards Drake during that back and forth for Kenyon. Okay. Let's just act like Kanye is a random rapper.

Well, I think a lot of people care. I think a lot of... Like that remix. But either way, I was the one who leaked it. I had it before everybody else. Either way, all I'm saying, you're acting now like Kanye West disigue is not a big deal in a rap beef. Kanye, obviously Kanye is one of the biggest rappers. Well, Future even allowing him to be on the song.

Can you get out going back and forth. Nobody paid it. to that little Kanye dis. Well, the Kendrick entering the chat for real. I mean, and Kendrick kind of set it off, to be fair, with the like that verse. But I think also people were tripping, wow. Metro, we all thought he was Drake's man at the time.

And Future, we all thought was Drake's man's at the time. And he allowed a verse to be on a song with his homie being dis, that he has two records with. Kendrick, Future, Rick Ross, Kanye West, ASAP, Rocky, the weekend, Meek Mill. That's not true. Meek Mill didn't go out of? Not during this.

He's not about his beast, it sound like. Actually, Meek Mill is one of the weirdest beefs that Drake, like, ever, like, squashed. When you think about, like, how much he didn't have to. Now, he's sonned him is what he did. He did the same thing that he straight up fucking sunned him. Yeah, that was very gnazish. Yeah, he put him on. And then he smoked him in the battle.

And then he got, and then he put him on the last song that he's had that was even somewhat relevant. He opposed. I got more hits than the Beatles. That's the last Meek song we remember. Yeah, and it's just so crazy that, like, you would have thought that, like, Drake getting back, who would have really helped Meek Mill would really help Meek Mill's career? And then it felt like it did nothing.

It took away from what he, what people thought he was. His aura was shattered. Because think about it, if Meek Mill had stayed anti-Drake, then when Kendrick came at him, Meek Mill would have looked so justified. Like, I've been telling you. Yeah. Like, if he had made himself the ultimate Drake op during those 10 years,

or whatever, seven years. and would have left him in a pretty good position at that time. It just made him look so like... Well, the cold part is because Meek hasn't had the ability to create music that really resonates since then. Yeah. And that the one time he has since that beef was with Drake. But I think Meek, out of all rappers, benefited the most of not knowing who he was. Explain that.

People not knowing who he is. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like through the Nicky Minaj, through the Drake shit, people found out Who he was. Well, then he was. He's retarded. I think, that's basically,

hot take, hot take, hot take. Twitter did more damage to Meek Mill than Drake. People finding out how his brain works was worse

than what Drake did to him. And I'm not denying that what Drake did to him was very, very bad. But us knowing that he's slow, that was a real kill. It's a perfect storm

for a fall off. And then you throw Ack in there, they're like, yeah, Akebeastle of a lot of rappers, but like him and Meek was like the, like,

earliest time you could really remember like a rapper and a media personality. He was self-inflicted. Well, he was also... You could tell he was raised by just his mom. Yeah, he committed suicide by tweet. Well, he was also, he was supposed to put on the different fools from his city and the whole Pousside Slide Pop controversy.

He's beefing with, like, his artists and all that. He would have benefited from being more like Kendrick. Yeah, for sure. And being out of the spotlight and being a way. More like, uh, well, Keith. Exactly. Right. Oh, my God. That's such a good point, though, because Kendrick, if Kendrick did...

No, but Kendrick would be all right. Like, I think he's not, like, bubbling. never like energetic enough to like be outside and around the people all the time. I don't know necessarily be good for him, but like Meek Mill is good at that shit. Meek Mill can be out with the people hanging out. That's good. You put him by himself with his phone. It's a problem.

So who's been a better look for Philly? Meek Mill or Lil Uzivert? Right now? Overall. Uzi hasn't really like embarrassed himself. He's had a way better career. Significantly. The highest high of Meek Mill's career, that one song was a nightmare.

I still listen to that song like at least once a week. That's a higher high than. anything that really has happened with Uzi. Play that at my funeral. Benny, where Beanie Segal? Beanie's from Philly. Yeah, yeah.

Freeway. Give me them. Yeah, for a film. Yeah. Take me. But Beanie's my favorite Philly rapper besides Black Thought. Uzi and Migny and Meg Mill

became way bigger than them. I know, but I still will take a Beanie song and like freeway. But really when you actually like attempt to like dig into like Beanie Segal's catalog, you get reminded that like it's not that much great prime Beanie Siegel. And I actually got some information. about that from hearing Wallo, excuse me, Wayno talk about working with him

basically said that Beanie Siegel, like, you know, a lot of rappers, like, just rap all the time, make music? He did not. He was, like, make a good song and, like, go to the studio and, like, change a word, change a couple words, but he was not, like, cranking out dope music all the time. He's on a lot of drugs. He has one lung?

I mean, there's a lot of things that he just had a slow He always had one lung? No. Oh, this is a known, right? Yeah. I want to say, like, 2014, 2015. And that's also passive. But, but, like, but, like, Like if you really look, the, the, the, the, the crowning moments of Beanie's career as the late 90s to, like, 2006. Yeah. Yeah.

Realistic. That the latest. Because 2006 was like him signing to Jay Z's death jam, right? Well, once he, him and Jay got into beef and he had the whole dissong, average cat, and that was kind of when he was on his way out. But I'm a huge Beanie Siegel fan. Me too. Yeah. I got to start reading these donations so that we can get out of here by a, uh, El Grande's Lobo said,

Adam, please don't ever stop bullying doughboy. He's so thirsty for a W. He challenged Munchy to a cooking contest on their live the other day. Lions in the chat and shout out to my Vietnamese homieios. He's a different race every time. He challenged Mosman. You're from Zion, homie. You're the last child of Zion.

Challenge it, Munchy to a cooking contest. Hey, populate the chat with lions, honey. Tye Shiki said, we need the Munchy B tier. Fuck, whack. Oh, shit. Speak on it. The Munchy Pack. The Munchy Beach here is an IRL stream that follows him around 24-7, though.

You get to watch them sleep and shit. That's like $30,000 for that backpack I heard. Well, you're going to use some of that $10,000. That ain't how much ours costs? Oh, oh, we didn't get to it. And you tried to get out of it. What? You tried to get out of it, dude.

What? You're a bullshit, nigga, bro. What? You flacoish. What? What? Nigger, you owe me some money, bro. You lost.

Oh, I did not. Oh, man, you for sure lost it, bro. Even the standard that I said, I said that Crip Mac hasn't And by the way, we've talked about this on the podcast way too much. But I said, no, no, no, no. I said a million views. You didn't come up with that. You didn't say that at the beginning.

Yes, I did. You said 10,000 views. I don't actually think that, like, a million views on a random clip is actually indicative of it being viral, but you also weren't even able to come up with that. Bro. But that was the standard that we agreed on on this podcast. There's a record of it. So were you lying in the beginning of that interview? Saying what?

That you said he was iconic. I just, it was iconic to, like, me and AD. It was iconic to like a handful of people in the office that were sharing his clips back and forth. Because at that time, Cribmac was a legend to us in the No Jumper group chat, which was probably like four people or some shit. It was like not like, you know, I was exaggerating in the interview. I'm calling him viral and like hyping him up like he was so big when he wasn't. You were blowing smoke up his ass? Of course.

I do that all the time. Yeah. I feel like this dude, if he don't want to lose a conversation or argument, he will never. No, I'm like, listen, I've admitted. did when I was wrong all the time. I'm poker player. So if I'm proven wrong, I'm paying up. But nobody's proving I was wrong. Oh, poker. Oh, wait. This is why he apologizes, Spody Face

to be like, look, I always admit what I'm wrong. No, but that's what I was wrong. He was thinking about the 10 times? I just want you guys to put a pin in this because we've had this exact conversation on this podcast 15 times. No, over and over, we always have the conversation where every time when I apologize for something, everybody acts like

it's the first time it's ever happened. And it's just like, I don't know why. I just have to like apologize for way more things. Yes. To the point where like people just always have it in that fresh in their memory. But it's just like the idea that I don't apologize when I admit when I'm wrong on here, so much more readily than everybody else is crazy. This one just seemed like it seemed more genuine. What? This is a party face one? Yeah. It's like you really many. Like you, and you went out your wife. It seemed like you sat on it and thought on it. I felt like I went

against my personal code. Um, come town, who's by the way the best person on here. He said, Adam, I haven't forgot you called me gay last week. I was going to slide on a jumper every day until I realize that's how I know you really love me. Adam only bullies is real friends. I'm still going to slide, though. Mikey, watch out. Is that dope boy?

Imagine. Comtown is. He's way funny here. I'll put Comtown on the pod before Dogo any day. Oh, shit. Imagine how many drugs is dog boys on right now. So, yeah, I think cocaine and alcohol. Bro, I'm scared for him, though, because you cannot be morbidly obese.

47 and drinking and doing coke. The fact that he denies his cocaine use is wild. You can't do all those at the same time. He tried to convince me he had a surgery. On what? Weight loss. He did. He told us that too. What like a gastric bypass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to fans.

And it went the way of flaco surgery or what? I mean... It was when he was like 500. Oh yeah, that's right. No, no. He did. No, boy was like 300-something pounds, but he used to be 500. He was a lot bigger back in the day. Fat, dudes on no jumper getting surgery, don't work out. Well, no, no, no, fat jules. Oh, no, jumper getting surgeries don't work out.

We, I still haven't really seen Flacco at, like, I don't know if he's skinnier or fat. He looks like he was losing weight. And that's why there is a tiny part of me that feels like he made up the car accident so that he wouldn't have to come back. No, it's on the news. A posse it. Oh, yeah, there's literally, it's on North Dakota news. But like, maybe he got in the car. He said, on purpose. He got a lot. He killed somebody? Man, man, that's got a hair line. He wasn't driving. He wasn't driving. He was supposed to do vollaco. Flocko. But Flacco was supposed to do vollas and all out here too.

And I mean, I'm not saying that he was like nervous about it, but was he maybe nervous? Oh, didn't want that to come up to him? Did he maybe get in a car accident on purpose and kill somebody so that he could not have a good excuse to not come? Sounds like a headline to me. The Mayback is gone down. Flacco's first body. On accident.

Yeah, but he got the two jobs out too anyway. Hickler Man's like. Okay. Ant Ney said, Lus, do you remember that rap battle where the guy said that he can Pakes bread and choked hard as fuck. Talking about my boy Chuck from Arizona. That was actually reviewed by Charlie Hakein-Zero. He was trying to say that he bakes bread and he said cakes bread.

Oh, is a crypt thing. No, no, no. It was a white dude who was one of the worst. She just performed. Pekwood Zero did a video about it called like the cringest rat battle ever. He just said it wrong? Yeah. I need to see that.

Plus the Cal is on me. I actually hosted the battle. The Cal is on me. Munchy left. I said, did Nick Una smoke crack with Hunter Siden? I so did. You better. You know, that interview, he had some really funny, like, name flips with the...

Hunter Biden and Krip Mac. I only made it like 20 minutes, and I couldn't handle it. Cran Risk. Q. Bledzi said, since the Amp Seifer dropped, can we get the No Jumper Cipher? We're talking about doing it, man. What about Friday? We do a little lock-in, do a pod. We all go, like, wrap?

Cipher? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could we get every... Okay. Who's on the Cipher, though? Us four.

Yeah, doughboy, moose man, Ricky. Doe boy. Doeboy claiming he's the best rapper from No Jumper ever. Yeah, he is. You're sitting there just smoke coming out of your ears. I think that there's a good seven of us that could make a cipher. Plus moose, dough boy, Ricky. And who else?

I think that's it. I feel like Spody might not be in the mood. That Spottie, you could be on there too. He did apologize. Yeah. If he was down, I mean. He refollowed on IG. For real?

He re-foiled me. He wrapped in that cipher that he did or not? He did. He did. He had the bet one of the better. He had, he had, I said he had the fifth best verse and he got Superman. But he did have a dope verse. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, let's talk more about Friday. That'll be cool. R. Walk said, Rios is a hater. He can't believe a woman is sad over Doboy, but wants us to believe that he snuck in as a janitor and then built rockets with Elon. That's very goodwill hunting ass right there for show. Hey, I really said it never. solve the equations on the chalkboard. Elon walks in like,

the man who, the man who solved this equation is a genius. Who is he? There's no way he's a gang member from Long Beach. I'll hire him. Look, and I ghost rode the whip into mission control, too. And jumped off the bike and into mission.

And it took it to just hit the big old glass. Like, I got some crazy stories. You was a, you was a side show in the Rockets? Dude, I was like, I was going to, I was fucked up too. You ever meet Grimes? Did you ever meet Gryves the white girl he used to date? Did you ever meet Elon's trans daughter? Not binary.

His fucking rapist dad. I don't know who grabs him. Allegedly. Not rapist, but his dad like, oh my God, you got to watch the flat interviews about it. But Elon Musk's dad is like dating like a woman that was his stepdaughter that he was

raising when she was like five. And then he ends up like getting a relationship with her like 30 years. Like Woody Allen. But that wasn't Woody Allen's chick like Well you know that isn't well yeah no he did he he didn't meet Sunyi you know okay yeah but also Suki Udo dog Woody Allen was dating her as a teenager

Whereas Elon's dad waited until like 30 years later which I mean whatever pretty fucking weird Step daddy Although that is one of the most popular little searches right Like on the Lord Yeah Oh yeah it's not allowed to do that only for us anymore or something

It's kind of creepy. Okay. The original sin said, Lush, you're my absolute favorite, so don't take this wrong way. You're supposed to be gaining weight after putting that pook you down, my boy. Why are you getting thinner?

Get it together. I believe in you. I brought this up to him the other day as well. I'm in, like, the best shape I've ever been is a cold part, but I do need to gain weight. I need to bulk up, but like I like the fact that I'm not fat. Feels really good.

I feel like way more nibble. And I'm stronger than I've ever been. Like, I can hit more pushups, so I can do more exercises. I can carry shit. I'll beat. Yeah, he would hit. Rotterdam Qa said,

Lush looking like a PS2 GTA character. That's me. Cash and Sumo said every single pod, y'all hitting on Doboy. Don't y'all get tired. Dude is a nice guy. Let him be, get off his meat. I feel like you.

Don't boy, Burtur detected. Despite knowing that we talk about Doe Boy a lot, he seems to be pretty oblivious to all the conversations that we have had about him. So he's a good sport about it. I'll say that.

Like, Doe Boy is not dumb. He's fucking dope. He's fucking dope. I love Doboy. Boy is fucking dope. He's good. for that's the thing we might we might get on doboy helmet just like we get on each other helmet people be on my helmet but there's love there we no boy is still our friend despite the fact that

we all hate him um wody woady has been a whackback member for six months he says spody don't have that same energy for whack that he has on you i mean to be real he's been making infinite videos about whack yeah he kind of hate wag don't he i don't know about currently but like he's like a zillion videos about whack was definitely tripping on him after that whole He's a guitar to shit, though. Although maybe he doesn't make whack videos anymore ever since he gets channels, I don't know. I don't think he, I don't know if he's tripping on him at this point.

I think when me and Smody do our pod, I'm going to have to ask him about that. Juan P. said nice white and blue ice t-shirt, Rios. Damn, that's what that is. That's a fire shirt. Rios is banging a Blue Lives Matter, I think. Hillick's driver said, Adam, you should have interviewed Munchy's brother instead of King Pill.

who's your brother a little munchy that I hear so much about no he's from Chris I'm off he his name monchy too oh yeah should we talk to him is he cool yeah um me shit

y'all too there ain't a camera light nigga like that oh okay the munchy lineage ATL nola said y'all driving me crazy with letting Lush spin what happened he lied to Adam saying Spody went at him

tell Lush how much of a snake he is damn I am not even going to allow you to have that conversation right now because I don't want to fucking dig in that Honestly, like, I'll just say one thing. He said maybe. No, no, real quick. We need to talk about this one.

No, no, I'll say honestly, just because of the sheer volume of people that disagree with me, maybe I need to examine. Maybe I was a little bit wrong and I'm willing to look at that because I don't feel like I did anything wrong. But so many people, it seems to be an overwhelming consensus. I am open to looking at that. Great accountability. Look.

See you apologizing rubbed off a lunch. Look. You haven't seen that? Pause. rubbed off on him his paws yeah that's so bloody that's the real you it's the real you

it's loud say you should bring Kevin on stage and ask him what happened with him and Doblo I would love to hook it up somebody telling I think he's two baiters

I think I'd DM'd him Bob Kevin on stage you used to pause with Doboy and it's one of those things that Doblo I don't want to talk about but like they had a bad falling out

okay I don't know you told him on now but we don't really know what happened we need it Clyde Drexler said, which by the way, definitely the real Clyde Drexler said, not going to lie,

St. Nicholas complaining about the way Wax said that he was the reason he didn't get fired as hypocritical because he did the same thing with Kyle. A little deep in the weeds there, brother. Yeah. Jay loves football said, Doe Boy is becoming annoying. Him and Lush are sharing, share exhausting qualities.

Lush is a coward, always saying he will get his little homies on Kyle. You do it. Again, really deep in the weeds. Yeah, it's too deep. The St. Alpalo, we're not going to just talk about every narrative for 45 minutes. Ron Loroichi said

Hey Adam Blood My offer still stands for me Taking the Bodine fade for you I got the drop Just say the word blood And stop hating on Derek Blood That shit ain't Ingalls On I FG

I do not want to fight Bodine So that's That's first and foremost How about you And a nigga Bodhi I just I should

It's I should say This is the second time I just, I don't know what his situation is and I don't want to like air him out and like saying anything that like he wouldn't want people to know about. So I'm not going to comment on that. But scope, BHB said you only miss with your cast because you make money off. Only mess with your cast because you make money off them.

If they was going to jail, you would not give a fuck. You never grew up like anybody on your panel. You never blew up. I'm going to assume he meant like anybody in your panel besides lush. Appreciate you. I mean. I like the last part.

Yeah. Obviously I care when people. people on this podcast go to jail. That's why I make, you know, dozens of YouTube videos about it every time. Hey, so your dad went to jail like mine's dead, right? My dad went to the feds. Okay, nobody who gave me no check.

David Walton said, Adam, you threatened to cancel at the end of the day and all the shows on the channel weekly because you're on a power trip who wouldn't have a backup plan ready to go. That's not true. I threatened to cancel all the shows because I was telling the dudes on the channel

at that time that they were making the process of running no jumper so not fun with the constant drama that it was making me feel like maybe I should just focus on doing interviews because I was sick of dealing with certain people, certain zesty hovers coming on the podcast every week and just... The group chat was wild back then, dude.

Because every day it was just a drama fest with T-Rell, which now the fans get it that he is the fucking problem. But at that time, you never could have convinced anybody of that. It's so obvious now. T-Rill could do no wrong in the fans. Because look at how much, how little beef we have between fans, between the host now. It's like shocking how little it is. We don't have any.

There's only one-gris-that people don't like over here. As soon as you took gay fucking T-Rell out the mix, everything changed. Okay, Clyde Drexler said on I-FG, Munchy senses so good that he can smell that Lush Fin alive before he starts talking. Bring Kyle back. Yeah. I'm actually doing a stream with Kyle later today. for all three of you guys i'm not going to get into that but versatility and said adam don't let lush say that you don't apologize when he won't admit that he lied on spody my recollection you do meth

why would you trust your memory oh you're not allowed to respond to that we got it's have great memory no yeah c w said adam as someone who was watched for a longest time you uh can confidently say sporty was the dumbest host to ever great's the platform shout out to tuesday he's not to be honest yeah he's not the dumbest there's definitely like T-Rill's dumber than Sporty face for sure I'm serious

like he's my nominee and listen like I'll say Spody is smarter than AD AD is just more likable than Spody by a little bit there's other examples but yeah okay

yo yo it's Lolo said Adam you a fucked up guy you're breaking fans heart some weeks ago with whack, you said that you would be releasing gay AI scenes. When? You did say that. He said that on here, too.

I was actually really just having a conversation about, like, if that would be gay. Is it gay to, is it gay to tell a computer program to make gay porn of you? No, no, no, no. You said you was getting ahead of things, so you don't have to actually do it, and you could meet people. I mean, I was, I was testing the idea. Okay, you were throwing it out there. I haven't really thought about it.

I was saying, somebody, you said that more than a couple weeks ago. somebody really looking out for it looking for the that was the second time i was here i'm gonna drop it that was the second my second show here you was talking about a i was like what the first thoughts of that way i was trying to impress you i wanted you to like me whoever i got a i'm ready for this seat i knew that gay porn would be the tickets of lios's heart we should for show beyond like the cypher we should all take an IQ test i feel like y'all are all cheat we're gonna have to do it laugh we should take an IQ test Um, okay, Comtown said, I can't go on a jumper.

Look how they did my therapist, clavicular. Clav will go free, though. It's a new age of intellectualism. I also agree that. The new age of intellectualism will also include clab going free. I totally agree with that. Swiftie said, it's funny seeing Adam be kind of reminded of his old days and times on tour when reading off Clag's charges.

Ah, the good old days. That's a good one. Ouch. I never did nothing. He reminds me so much of myself. Don DeMarco. I mean, I wanted to get fucked up and like bang girls. And like I was pretty shameless about that.

When I look at Cloud, he's just like monetized it better. I monetized it all right, too. Okay. Wally Boggis said, is it just mirro to sober, lush, lose all his aura, L.O.L.S. Still dope podcaster. No, hashtag no doughboy content, please. D'boy is kind of fired content, though, no? He's definitely content.

You just wonder if it's like appealing to a increasingly tiny audience. Like, I don't think like there's like high points to come from the doughboy saga unless something terrible happens. Yeah, but it's so funny to us. Some of his audience and grew on them right here though. Maybe a little bit, but as somebody who like pays attention to the numbers, I just feel like the doughboy numbers might have been more of a thing before. He just beat him in a poll on a rap battle. He actually lost. I actually won the pole.

To me, that's the fans trolling. But he actually, but I actually won the poll, though. You both sounded like shit, but he sounded way worse. He didn't do it when you wanted to. All right, it's over. I didn't. I have no control over that shit. The fuck?

I was up. Cash Good said, yo 22. What's good with the No Jumper 10 commandments? Shout out to Lush Rios and the beat team. I actually should do that. We're probably in a good place for me to drop my top 10 pod commandments. And then we could do our No Jumper Pod review day. Why are you throwing up gang signs?

What the fuck that? I was acknowledging Cash Good. Thank you for the. because I didn't... I was late with it. I was late with the... He was chunkin episode. What's the pod review day?

We talked about having like a big day where everybody gets like a pod review where like I do research beforehand, make sure I watch a lot of content of people, put together notes and then like bring them on one by one and I don't know if I would like show them clips or I would just like rate them, give them some feedback about their pod and. Oh, that's pretty time.

I think it would be pretty good content. They'll set the camera up in your office. We're doing it in here, right? Why not? Same thing. Like, a nigga ain't trouble to come in the office in here. It's like, give it to me straight, Doc, type shit. Your annual review.

Right. The yearly review, like, you will not be getting to raise this year. Tell them not on the fly. It's so good. You may never get a raise. You may never get a raise. I hope the dog. How the Edgar's remove somebody, like, carry them, carry them out?

You're going to start taking the clothes off in the interview. Yeah, the Edgar's just like. slowly transforming into security would be fire. I mean, they kind of have been. They get way fatter and just like dress up, like bring blicks. Ever since Stephen marked out a foosey tube that was going to be getting at. And Hellcat. Okay, C Hustle said,

I knew Adam was going to take up for that weirdo cloud. This is the problem when the nerds got microphones. This behavior is being normalized. So you're saying that the nerds are the guys who have sex with like literally more than everybody else watching this, which I guess would be me in clavicular. Because if that's what it is to be a nerd, I guess I'll just have to take it on the chin.

So if being hot and famous and fucking lots of girls makes us nerds, you, my friend, have successfully changed the definition of nerds. I think you need to try to find a better word that would encompass that better. Just don't start bone smashing shit. When I went to his house,

the bone smasher was there. It was like just laid out on the table. Like it gets used all the time, which I thought was kind of insane. That's dedication, right? Fuck. I don't know. That was crazy.

Okay. Hoodlum 86 said Tuesday show is fire. Free all the no jumper host locked up. We need the Hefe back. I was just thinking about him today, man. We got free the heff. Free FAA, free recess. Jake D3Mond said on IFG,

kids do not be like lush. He is a brackhead, not a joint. He smokes joints with bracking them. Be like Rios. He lied on an application and became a scientist. That's joy. Free brig, free sus. Hey, man, I've definitely a bachshundary tale.

Oh, shit. A science. Bro, you gotta stop doing that. That's too funny. It's not. Jeremy Romance said, when can I tell my story on a jumper or when's another music stream?

Mad respect, y'all. I mean, you're telling your story on a jumper right now, but dropping the $5 don't, all right? We should do a music stream soon. I agree with him on that. Oh, let's do it. Let's do it Friday. Yes.

You booked a lot of shit for Friday. Well, okay, we can listen to the fans music in here and then make the song. song in the other room. Because I don't think we should make the song on stream because then they're going to know about all the bars at the same time. I thought you had something lined up for Friday, bro. Yeah, don't you have plans for Friday?

During the day, we have a thing. Yeah, okay. A piece of content, but that's, let's, okay, hang out here and do a stream on that. Let's do it. Yeah, especially if we record in the other room and then, like, we got to shoot the video in here while we're recording us so we can have a good turnaround time. We could have Kenny, Kenny over show, pull up. Kenny's not seen this fat ass in the chat the whole time we've been on here.

I love Kenny. I love Kenny's going to be on the news tomorrow. I feel bad I didn't listen to that girl's song. They're streaming here. It's Lil Ryan this bitch. They'd be gassing her up to me so much. I'd be like shaking her hand thinking she's like world famous. I'd be like, hi, how you doing?

They're like, bro, she's such a big deal. She's crazy. She's huge. Lil Ryan definitely doing her thug this a little. I don't even know. They gas her up. She's from Northern Cali? Yeah.

Oh, hell no. Get her out of her. She's from Modesto. Get her out of here. Yeah, no, she's a good kid. I can't fuck with her. Nortenios, man. All the shit I've been through with moose, pulling him down.

I'm just going to get you. She's as much of a Nortenuous moose. Oh, okay, that's about what I'm willing to tolerate. Yeah. Okay. Phillips said Clav is giving Patrick Bateman. That's very accurate. That's a fact.

And also me. Put me in there, too, because I'm exactly the same. Okay. Yo, yo, it's logo said, Adam, you don't even upload that many interviews. You have to be, you have time to be on multiple weekly shows. Joe Button uploads like five times a week, step it up. Joe Button uploads like two times a week. And I personally am on three podcasts a week.

So I don't know exactly what you guys want. Do you want me to do like a three-hour podcast every day? Because that sounds like a lot. I'm not going to lie. That's a lot. Joe Button is doing the crime thing now. Did you see that? Got canceled.

It got canceled? Yeah. Oh, shit. But I do think that a lot of people do miss the interviews and would be excited if those came, became more frequent. I do interviews all the time. It's just like there's a lot less people. to interview these days.

It's just like they used to just be flooding in. Like I just, because like music was just going way crazier, bro. I used to do like multiple like Bronx drill interviews every week. Like what the fuck happened? All that shit. You could take every city in America,

because I have basically done this and like map out the up and coming rappers from each city. And man, it ain't like it was a couple years ago. It's crazy how much like less rappers are popping off. I tell you got to move on from them. You got to move on. But every other.

niche of interviews is kind of flooded as well. So I feel like if anything, yeah, I don't know. I still love doing interviews. I still feel like we do like crazy numbers with a lot of our interviews. Like all the Chicago shit we've been doing the past couple days has been crazy. And that's like the backbone.

That's like the foundation of one no jumper was. Yeah, but you can't get too hung up on the backbone because if I was still trying to run like the cool podcast where you interview SoundCloud rappers. Yeah, that's like you stuck out of Al Bundy type shit. That shit is. Four touchdowns for one game of poker. Okay.

C. Hustle said, Adam is the first person to call someone a hater, but then belittling Kendr's career the whole time. K-Dog don't care to catering like Drake. Okay, so you are a glazer because saying that he doesn't care to cater like Drake. I mean, every rapper has to cater to their fan base. The thing is that any belittling of Kendrick's career that I've done is based on like actual arguments that I can articulate,

and you didn't do any of that in your donation there. So Big L. C.S.L. also said, don't forget, Kendrick's speed and making music is a lot of the reason that Drake lost the battle. Kendrick was putting out great songs so he can do what Drake do. Well, to be fair, Kendrick acknowledged that he already had

not like I was pre-recorded. And like basically just had to like pivot it into having more Drake bars. Which, you know, to be fair, that's something to be proud of if you're that prepared, you know? Mustard. Swing of the Ag said, Adam was chasing a little pump for clout during the best

Kendrick albums dropping. He doesn't have a valid hip-hop opinion. That is not true because actually Good Kid Mad City came out long before anybody knew who Low Pump was. I mean, also helping streamline a triple X and a Juice World. Yeah. And I would also say that really like the time where SoundCloud rap was going crazy was kind of like the time where Kendrick was dropping his worst albums.

Kendrick was at his best before No Jumper existed, if we're being fully honest. That's awesome. He said he was 2012. Yeah. The idiot from L.A. said Drake is too far up inside Adam. You can't give a decent take on music anymore. Bad podcast and Shot of Lush for at least being honest and knowing music. I feel like Lush and I agree on like almost everything that we said,

which makes me feel like your opinion does not deserve a lot of consideration. I think they'd be getting your trolling confused a little bit. I think you'd be trolling a little bit. No, he'd be serious. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what I'm trolling about. I would never troll. Trying to get a motherfucker out.

David Walton said, Adam, we get it. You are salty that Kendrick never took your interview, but Drake hasn't either LOL, that's, man, you got embarrassing yourself for OVO chain. So I don't wear chains, number one. And also, I never tried to get a Kendrick album, as did nobody else in L.A.

besides Big Boy. Yeah, but I'm saying that the big boy is the only person in L.A. Those are interviewed Kendrick, which is kind of part of my point, which is that, like, you know, yeah, like, okay, the conversation, like you could say, oh,

Kendrick, like, never drops music because he just wants to. But, like, then you have to also excuse why he never does anything else either. He's a fucking recluse. He doesn't even like to be in public like that. He doesn't do interviews. So it's like all the media platforms in L.A.

that glazed Kendrick, literally none of them got anything from that. But you know what's the weird what's weird about it is in his interviews like say Howard Stern, Rick Rubin, he's super fucking normal. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

Like he's fucking. For sure. If he did more interviews, more people would realize he's just a regular ass dude. Like, he ain't, he didn't really got like that star power. To me though that makes him, that does make him.

appealing to me, but I can see a lot of people that like the razzle-dazzle of of quote-unquote aura. The mystique. Yeah, absolutely. I remember when everybody got him shit for buying his little sister or something, like a Civic, some similar house car. Who, Kendra? That's just how he is. Yeah, like Yeah, like a... Yeah, but even that's

performative, right? That is kind of... Well, if you do something and put it on the internet, it's performative. And especially if the thing makes everybody say, like, oh, he's so humble. I can't really recall how I got out. That is, that is kind of like, Jay Cole's whole marketing strategy. I'm going to drive the car that I used back in the day for my entire tour now.

I think he got out. I don't think he posted it, but I could be wrong because I can't remember sign-loving. You know what I'm saying? It could have been something she posted and it just simply got out there. Okay, in, okay, he gifted his sister, Kayla Duckworth, a 2017 Toyota Camry for her high school graduation in 2017. Tony Camry, one of the best cars ever. Is it?

Most reliable. This became public knowledge when Kayla proudly posted photos of the new Grace of Dan on her personal Instagram and Twitter account and captured that, thank you, Big Brother, from our graduation gift at Kendall Lamar. And it quickly went viral. And, oh, okay, yeah, on Big Boy, he said that he wanted to teach his sister the value of gratitude and baby steps noting that she didn't have to go through the same financial struggles that he and their mother experienced growing up.

Okay. Fucking dope. I agree. That makes sense. My opinion, you get an entry-level car when your parents buy you a car and you get a fucking Mayback

when you can afford a Mayback. I'm not giving my kid nothing beyond like an entry-level car. You agree? I totally agree. Yeah, 100%. I mean, he is being itself, bro. I mean, to be fair, like,

yeah, yeah, because like if you give your kid a fucking super expensive car, like it's just super performative. You're doing it for social media and you're doing it to make, People know that your fucking kid drives a car like this. He's teaching her fiscal responsibility. That's like a pair of podcasters.

Academics, uh, uh, Adam. He fly coach. Oh, he, oh, he go to, uh, first class. Like,

bro, he's pocket watching. You got one materialistic, nigga and one that's not. Mm-hmm. Fax. Fucked out of doing a podcasting. I wouldn't expect Kendrick to buy a fucking my back for his little sister.

But he's being in a cell. Yeah. Game just by his daughter, some crazy cars. No, I would, I was thinking about that when I saw a game do it too. I would expect game to do that, though.

He's always been a super flashy guy, so it kind of makes sense. That's online with his branding. Patch note said, thank you, lush. Rios is reducing hip-hop to technical rapability and blackness. Hip-hop is pop music. Thank you for Drake for pushing the sound forward. Well, there's nobody blacker than Drake. Dragonite B-word, B-sler, said,

only my Mexican brother Rios can say my name. Let's keep it 100. Women with big are usually obese. Yeah, he says it when he calls ice on them. I think he means big aerolas. Women with big aerolas are usually obese. Bro, you ever like notice like when your girl gets pregnant that her fucking nipples gets so much darker? I like it.

I mean, you're like aerogalists. But that's what happens though. Okay. That happened you too, though? Because I don't know if it happened to everybody. Because they get ready for breastfeeding. I saw old pitcher and Lennon the other day and her nipples was fucking. was fucking gigantic and so much darker.

I totally forgot about that shit. Remember when Cardi B had crazy hair of us? Oh, chew that shit. For show. For sure. Oh, feed me, mommy. Some more chocolate out of them things. No, Playboy Cardi.

Yeah, Playboy Cardi for huge. Yeah, Playboy Cardi for show. Bro, I seen a clip the other day of Playboy Cardi where, like, you could see from an angle that his hairline is fucked. Oh, man. And I was just like, oh, my God. Like, bro, the fucking opium fans, like, I don't think they're going to be able to handle realizing that motherfucker's hair lines jacked.

And then also, like, he can't really just go get a hair transplant because they're going, well, like, I guess he could keep his dreds and they could take the hair follicles from the bag and then put him in the front. But then you're going to have dreds and then you're just going to have like a little patch growing in the front. It's going to take so long before it's even close to it as long as your dreads. He has to go short hair, get the hair transplant, and then grow it out again. Or there's on his day so hard that he'll swim. that and make that like a new hair start. You see a bunch of kids with that same hair. I was thinking about that.

I got a super major Omarion pre-haircut fade. Do like performative like receding hairline. Like just shave it here, but shave it in a way where it's like really obvious that you like, that that's not your natural hairline. Oh, if that became in style, I'd be getting all the hose. Yeah.

I'll grow my hair back out. I mean, honestly, there's one dad who like goes that's like in my kids class and I look at this full all the time. fat, his shirt barely fits, his hairline is all the way back. And I just look at this guy every time. And I'm just like, that's so sick that you just don't care at all. Like, everything about you looks about as bad as it could look.

And you're walking around. You don't give a fuck, yeah. And I just wonder about him. I want to know what he does for a living so bad. He's probably a computer program or something. But that's how men are supposed to be, man. My money makes. Hell no, we got to look good.

We got to look good so we can get bad bitches and impregnate them. type shit um okay ghost we're almost done said this is the A team right here it makes my work go by quick shout out to all for you all from New Jersey shout out to New Jersey dragon night Rio's beard said got into a bad car crash and it's stuck in the hospital

all day the no jumber show is the only thing that feels regular right now I appreciate y'all that's actually cool that's really hey prayers up for Dragon Night Rio's man because I know that feeling of sitting in the fucking hospital bed off main med yeah you gotta get over you got to get over here

Flack overrangement syndrome. You, for real. FDS, FDS, FDS, first day. Just with Flop. Phillips said, are we getting the Adam and Remo interview

with Q50s killers? Come on. Sign me up. I got to meet them. I'm sure Rimo's already reaching out. Yeah, they got to come through. The niggas got to be some idiots.

They do some shit like that. $2,500 for the box said, W. Munchy, W. Munchy, W. W. Brochalut L. Tongin'Krip Rios. Munchy needs more Henny on the Tuesday. show on IMG. Tongan crib is so good. I fuck him out tangy. Hell yeah. That's all right. DAG said Adam does not listen to Kendry. Kendry raps about dropping an album and then goes away.

He's not consistently in the studio and missing. He goes away. The fact that y'all all believe this bullshit honestly is so fucking funny. No, but you never said he was consistently in the studio and like searching for a record. You never said. I feel like Kenner probably spends like huge amounts of times in the studio because I mean, let's be real. Like he's good at his craft. What the fuck else you doing with your life? Like, what else is there to do at a certain point? He has opened the express about taking long break. It's not like he seems like he's doing anything else.

Well, he was going around doing push-ups and working out at parks. Yeah, but that was one time. Between Damn and Mr. Morale, he was going through a bunch of bullshit in his life and stuff like that. Finding out your aunt as trans or whatever. Going to the museum for show. He, like, found out his eye. That's such bullshit.

Like, oh, I found out my aunt was trans, so I had to take three years off. That's fucking devastating. It's the shit that rappers do. Who said that shit? Kendrick didn't he have an old thing? I never heard no crazy-ass cuckoo shit like that. That's a real thing? I don't know, but it's devastating if it's true.

He had a trotty? For three years? Was he raised with this antique? Because if so, I wouldn't give a fuck. He got a trotty? No, I think he's telling me that she went trans or some shit. Yeah, he talks about it on an album. See, that's the whole thing.

Munchie claims to be a super fan. He don't even listen to this shit. I don't listen to up for weird, freaky shit like that. His uncle who became his auntie, wait, no, transition to a man. So it was his aunt, and then she turned into his uncle. and on one of his songs I've Mr. Moral and the Big Stappers

which much you should totally listen to because he definitely has never heard the song opens with Kennedy describing his relationship using feminine terms and old memories before noting the transition my auntie is a man now that's so bad quoted like men the best part

of that album was Kodak Black if we're being honest. Your name Betty, I ain't calling it. You don't know. Your name Betty I ain't call it. The song is about unlearning transphobia and grappling

with cognitive dissonance and eventually choosing family acceptance and humanity over rigid rebellious or societal expectations. Uncle Betty in the house. Basically, he ended up being cool with his trans. Man, I don't think he could be a stud, but a trans is something else. Family, family. I didn't even know that stud was supposed to only be for black women because the other day I said to a girl, I said, oh, you, like, I said like, oh, damn, you finally decided to

stop dressing like a stud. And she's like, what the fuck is that? She's white. And she was like, and I went to urban. dictionary and looked up stud and while the time i got to the definition i was looking for it said that it's only a term for black lesbians which i didn't i didn't really realize that oh no i didn't know that i guess i've only heard used that way but i learned that so man oh no stud is for only there's mexican studs for sure there is a chance that urban dictionary is wrong but apparently the

intent about the term was for it to only be sure is the stud you told me all day so you know to the stud community. It's not even really a stud. I just said you were a stud because last time I seen you were wearing a fitted hat. Or, yeah, fitted hat. Yes, within the queer community, the term stud is widely understood and respected as an

identity exclusively to black masculine presenting lesbians and sapphics, which is, I've never heard that word. There's too many labels. I mean, but I think stud is an important term because we all know what it means. So what is the white stahs called? Butch. No.

Yeah. When does Stud become just a female term. Didn't they used to say? No. Well, you could say it about a guy, but it's different. Because when I looked up Stud on Urban Dictionary, the first definition was like a guy who's like a cool player. Yeah. Yeah, that used to be the word

for stud back. Oh, that guy's such a stud. Why they keep still in words? They're appropriating it and they're probably doing it because it's a word that like literally nobody uses anymore. Well, it's a word for like a cool-ass dude. So I was like, oh, you're a cool-ass. I'm going to hit one of my gay, huh? Brose.

This is the black thing. I never, that's, I bet A lot of people learn something today. Even if she disagrees, she's probably going to be wrong. She's pretty much. Quiet, stud. I know, I know a lot of, but I know a lot of, like, Mexican studs or butch, whatever you want to call that, I call themselves studs. So, like, Black people. Yeah, Mexicans want to be like black people, newsflash.

But black people call pussy cock. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. They call pussy cock? Yeah. Black people? Y'all gay. Yeah, Dad's Dilliger.

Woke up with them hoarding to some bomb-ass cock. Yeah, that's fine. Wow. That's a Mexican Yeah, exactly. Shops the Homegirl Rock. She was in our free Dirk video.

I mean, you could call her a stud, yeah. She is. But, well, okay, what's the term for a fat, lesbian Mexican? Just Mexican. He's so against there being like classifications in terms.

What's the term for a fat Mexican lesbian? Yeah, there's got to be a term. Oh, my God. It's such a thing. Yeah, where you get fat. Fat's strange. The regional slang is torta.

But torta doesn't mean lesbians. Hey, and that's waxingered tortoise. Hey, nigga. You gotta take that. You gotta take that out. In Mexico and certain diaspora communities, torta or tortellera is a well-known slang term for a lesbian. So it actually like, it is.

It does kind of mean that. Today years old. I think blueface has dropped that torta joint, like make that a song. The cultural identity, Gorda queer or fat Chicana lesbian. Gordas. Gorda queer.

I'm gonna call it some of. Call Moose Man that, you Gordercre. No, Moose Man is such a Gorda Queer. Yo, I'm trying to put my dick in some Gorda Queers. Stephen, you know, Steven, line me up a couple of Gordaquires for the 20 versus 1. We need some Gorda. Yo, Gorda queer sounds so hard. Yes, that's a Pokemon.

It's my new rap name. Gorda queer, Gorda queer. Yo, I'm doing a remix of Gucci Ang, Gorda queer, Gorda queer, Gorda queer, go to queer. Okay. Grandma like snort nose. Yeah, grandma still snorting those. Okay. Okay.

Spam said this is probably Rios' last show. He was talking about get Brandon and Spody back so that he can leave. Let's throw him a 24-hour goodbye stream. Also, out of my blame you. Also, please don't bring Spody back permanently. A lot of paranoia fueling that super chat. That was hilarious, though. God damn.

I love it. Um is Lupe a Is Lupe Gordaqueer? Yeah, she's a torta for sure I mean she's fat Is she a stud?

She's a Grundite I think she's like dudes though Yeah she does She like dudes She's like You gotta be gay Yeah Eris said

Kendrick dropping every five years And getting praise For what he puts out Is like giving a player MVP for averaging 40 But bro Play twice a month on the season Fuck out of here

K-bots Hey listen He sees through you guys is bullshit. People come out the house just to put in work and they go back in the house, bro. Yeah, and we massively discount their contribution as a result. Discount party cribs and bluds.

The niggas come put in work and go back in the house. True, but all the party cribs, I know we're podcasting like it's going out of style. Coyote said, bring Jack Lick Jess back. Y'all know what I'm talking about. We need O.G. Crip back on the cast. That's true, man. Shout out to all my moving individuals

out there. I see Jack Lig Jess is they might have told him he's not from the set anymore he wasn't listening hey i love jack like just regardless he's hilarious yeah and was not fucking with that he putting on he put on for hray hard remember how nervous we were to tell aunt that he was from hray well you know he used to be a part of a community a gang he was just sitting there like specifically what kind of community like slowly figuring it out um shout out to one a j saya for becoming a member little mexican has been a member for eight months.

He said, tell Dragon and Kyle the bick back because the bean team sliding behind the mayor of MacArthur Park. That's right, Escher. That's right. Don't play with me. Make plays with me. Oh. Hey, laying low, playing slow.

Sheesh. Hold on, Wack is calling in, said, Pop Quiz, Lush. What's your favorite track on the album, Game Related by the Click. Be about your paper, man. That's my favorite. I was like, Wolf Tickets. I like, boom, get chopped.

I like, man, there's so many. Great songs. Hurricane, amazing album. One of my favorite albums of all time. Amazing woman, too. Shout out to Hurricane. Be About your paper's my favorite song. And then Trent B. 903 said,

Cardi's hair's been fucked up for years. His loctitian exposed him. That's why he keeps his du rag on. Look at the video of the fans pulling it off. I don't know if I actually am willing to commit to going and finding that right now. Where is the security at? Why is he grabbing at his wave cut? No, you can't always control it.

But I'm trying to see Cardi's fucking. a receding hairline because it's going to make me feel cooler if I see him better about yourself Paris No said Lush your mod put me on time out for asking you for promo

on your YouTube channel Get him and check man This was the other day bro That's egregious Hit me on Instagram That's egregious Yeah that's very egregious Hit me on IG please

It's everyday bro with the Disney channel flow As long as we're talking about The greatest rappers of all time Oh shouts of the Paul brothers Yo bro Today, John Cena. Today I saw somebody re-uploaded the clip of Logan Paul and that dead body that he filmed. Oh, in the chat, in the unalive thing in Japan?

Listen, unalive forest. Here's another apology. I'm pretty sure I came on here and said that it like wasn't that bad. Yeah. If what I saw was the real thing and not AI, which as I'm saying it, I'm really starting to wonder if it was AI because it was so crazy. but like bro he's like filming himself with the vlog camera turns the camera around dead Japanese guy with his face blurred out a little bit

but like still and yeah he's he's talking to the camera oh my god his hands are purple bro it's fucking crazy like he's such a YouTuber while he's right in front of a dead body do you not even know what I'm talking about I do know about that I've never seen the fucking video no I remember when it came out but people tripping on Jack Dordy about making his friend hold the camera after the Bugatti bapped is that that got shit on this incident. He got, I thought they,

there was a lot of bad backlash for that. No, for show. He was like, oh yeah, he got canceled so bad for that. That was actually unbelievably bad at the time, even though it kind of fizzled out pretty quick. Man. Then, Super Chats take almost an hour here nowadays. That's kind of lit. The Super Chats?

Yeah. Damn near. Sometimes takes an hour to talk to these fucks. How fucks with it? What's he going to show us? We are absolutely not. Do not show the, yeah, don't show it on the screen. but oh shoot look at he's like filming himself

and then he just shows the dead body yo this is not as bad as the thing that I actually saw oh yeah okay there it is yeah that's gnarly I can't believe sorry about this loo I thought it was fake that's such a violation like so sick though

it's a suicide force yeah is it fucked up if it's if it's fake like if that was not a real guy but he still did that for cloud farming I would be way better if it was fake for sure okay what if this happened now and everybody freaked out and then he was like bro we did it with AI so like no harm no file

yeah you can't get mad of that that was damn your change AI legislation fake dead body is not a big deal real dead body is a big deal yeah I think is pretty much the rule all right shout out to everybody I actually like the idea doing this Friday uh we'll do like a long pod and then we'll

not all night I think 24 hours is crazy why do we start doing 24 when we had never done like six so what time are we started maybe seven, six? Seven at night? Yeah. Okay.

That's just an idea. Let's do it. So not doing the 12, don't come into 12. Yeah. Oh, no, we should do 12 and then I'm going to do the 20 versus 1 here. And then we could do a long night pod slash record the song in the other area. And then we're like, I think we should come up with like a theme for the video, like one part of the office that we film everybody wrapping their verse in front of. That's fire.

I love that. I'm bringing a high note. Could take me like three hours? Could the theme please be fuck OTF Jam? I don't know that most of the people are going to really care about OTF Jam that much. You can rap about him. Yeah, you totally should. Jam told.

Jam told. He did my man wrong. Now I'm screaming free dirt. Bro, I was thinking about doing a rap song for my kid for her birthday. That's dope. But then when I was thinking about like all the things, like I was having like a really. hard time imagining myself rapping like kid-friendly lyrics. You gotta mention Big Blue.

You feel me shit that she liked. Because right away, I rhymed in my head. I rhymed like Parker Ann with like, if a boy treat you bad, I'm gonna turn his block to Afghanistan. And then I was like, nah, I can't do that. No. I can't just assume her first boyfriend's going to be from a block. Turn is black.

Yo, that's what I should do though. In raising her, I should like really like prepare her for. like gang life. I'm sliding on Agora Hills. And then she'll slowly realize that like actually that's not going to be what her life is like, but she'll be ready for it. Yeah.

Tell her not to do drugs. Start acting super paranoid and open like they're after me, like they're after me. They're after me. They're after me. I never know when I'm going to have to shoot it out with the cops. I think the song should be going to be dope though. You could like make her pets.

You feel me, normal shit? Yeah. Yeah. It'll be meaning of you. We go out to wrestle. Like, ooh. There you go. blush my homie, but I still let him touch my asshole.

Bars! Bars! No. Hit your mama from the back. It was sounding like a casserole. And that's how you were created. I beat it after that 80. Beat it and tweeted. From New England, but I ain't a masshole.

You are for sure a mousel. I am a mousole. That's how I explain my personality. Masshole. You can't wait for what? My sister, she's making a, a, hamburgers but with plantains in the patties the one that's so cool I already know that's goes oh okay you a fab boy at heart you you think my best shit

do you watch your weight a lot you don't have to this is just like you where you just landed at yeah dude I watch I'm like becoming body dysmorphic it's getting weird like I ate a slice of pizza over here and like felt so guilty the more you think about it the worse it does your body don't don't think about that shit and just fuck it like It's bad. Women think about that shit. Yeah, yeah. Women sit around thinking about that shit all fucking day every day.

But, I mean, the thing about it is like, don't replace one addiction with another one because eating disorders are gnarly. No, I don't think I'm really body dysmorphic, but I am like hypervigilant about what I'm eating for sure. Let's all start getting in shaping and enter a bodybuilding contest. Look at my shit, bro. Look at my shit. I never had that before. The fuck we're talking about.

I'm on it, man. Look at the thirst traps in my fucking Instagram story. I got a fake six-pack, Loki. Ooh, la la. All right. Shout out to everybody. Smash a like button. Drop a comment.

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