No Jumper - CTS Luh Wick on St. Louis, Beating a Body, Being White & More

Episode Date: September 14, 2024

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No jumper. Coolest podcasts in the world. And today I'm here with my man, Remo. And we're having to sit down. We're one of the most dangerous men in America. CTS, Lil Wick. How you living? I'm a right, man. I'm a right, man. Let's get that mic right. And there you got a little quiet voice. So let's just start here. I'm a eye, man. I'm chilling. How are you living? Is this your first time in L.A.?

Yeah. Oh, shit. We got you turned out. The only other place I've been to Chicago. Right. Yeah, because I've seen none. I've seen you say you don't really lead the city, right? Yeah, not for real. unless I got a reason to. It's a motion somewhere, you know. What you went to Chicago for?

It was like a few years ago. It was for a ride. It was like a, it was like called Lean Back Shirek. Lean back Shirek. It was like a motorcycle ride. Oh, or you ride the motorcycles? Yeah, I was riding the motorcycle. I ain't rode no motorcycle recently, but yeah, I was riding the motorcycle.

You were into that whole scene for a while? I mean, I never really was into the bike life scene and nothing, but I was just kind of getting into it. I had a bike, so I was just riding, you know. How many days are you in LA? Huh? How many days do you in LA? How many days have I been in L.A.?

Or are you going to be in total, yeah. Three. Three. Yeah, three. What are you planning on getting into? We got to make sure we got to protect them from the Wippet dealers and everything. I ain't fucking a Wippin'n a WIPP. I mean, I ain't fucking with them, no, but I ain't never really seen nobody doing it.

It's so popular in L.A. That I feel like anyone who comes here, I have to, like, warn them, like, stay away from the Wippet dealers. I ain't fucking with them. All right. How many days you've been out here so far? I've been out here since the third. I just got her yesterday. Oh, yes, they were.

Nice. You appreciate it out here or are you? Yeah, I like it out here. It's different. Yeah, it's different. What is it about it? Just the vibe? I mean, the trees, yeah, the vibe for real.

The people is different. It ain't like St. Louis, you know. For sure. It was more. I don't know. Right. But what is so special about St. Louis?

I don't think I ever even been there. It's like. I don't think so. I've got to plan a trip. I mean, what's special about? it. I mean, it's good things about St. Louis and it's bad things about St. Louis. We got some good food. We got

China, Memos and shit like that. Emos is the pizza, St. Louis style piece. Uh-huh. Yeah, we got some more shit in St. Louis, but it's a lot of bad shit going on to St. Louis, too. You said bad shit, like the drill scene and shit, and the drills thing. Yeah, like... But I feel like if there was no drill scene, you'd be saying that that is a negative towards St. Louis.

Like, I feel like the music scene being thriving, it's like regardless of the negativity that might come with it. It's a good thing and a bad thing. Yeah, yeah. It's pros and cons to it, you know. Definitely. So, all right, tell us a little bit about your upbringing and what your childhood was like. My childhood, I mean, it was all right.

My people's was on, you know, my people's on drugs and shit. It was cool, though. Like, your mom and dad? Yeah, it wasn't too bad, though. Like, you know, they still did what they had to do and shit like that. Like, my old dude still did what he had to do. He wasn't, he wasn't f***ed up out of her or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying?

It was all right. It wasn't, you know. I mean, people think you can't live like a manageable life while doing hard drugs. But I've definitely known some people throughout my life. And on the podcast, even who you're talking to them. And they're like, yeah, my mom and dad do meth. And they got regular jobs. And they just, they be smoking meth.

I mean, I've seen some people like do pills and shit and still be productive. Right. Like, they are still, you know, they still get their bag and shit. They still take care of their family, their kids or whatever they got to do. But it's some of them just let that shit. They just let that shit fuck them up. After the time, I feel like that shit going to fuck you up either way. though. He might not get a hold of you right away,

but that shit probably will fuck you up either way. What kind of drugs are they? Meth, they were on meth and shit. Shit like that. Some people drink coffee, some people smoke meth. I'm not going to say it's equal. I just smoke weed.

I don't even like drinking for real. I drink when Brendan gave me to drink like that, you know. I don't have hit the bottle or a female. I want me to hit the bottle or something, you know. Other than that, I don't even be drinking for real. I'll just be smoking. When did you notice, like, your parents were, like,

doing drugs? Because at first you probably thought it was normal. Yeah, I was little different. Like, I just remember asking one of my friends, like, what's that? What's this? On some shit I'd seen, something I pointed out. Like, what's that? They got me hip on some shit.

Ever since then, I knew on some shit, you know. But would you say overall your childhood was pretty good, or was there a lot of crazy shit that you saw from a young age? I mean, I think a lot of crazy shit, but it really didn't come from my parents, for real. It really came from more of me going outside and doing shit, you know. You grew up in a mostly black area? Yeah. And so how'd your parents?

end up living in that environment? Or did they, like, instruct you on that? Like, hey, you're a little different than most of the people that live here. I don't really, no, I don't know. I don't know how, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I ended up there. How they ended up there or I ended up there.

I was just born over there, raised over there. Do you remember them ever having a conversation with you about, like, hey, you're white, so things are slightly different for you? Not for real, no. Because it was still white people in the area, too. It wasn't, you know. So it wasn't that, it wasn't that unnormal for me to be in that area.

Did you feel like bullied ever, or was that an issue? I mean, I feel like Mok's looked at me being white as a weakness, but it ain't never really been no weakness. But yeah, I feel like it was looked at as a weakness, you know. But they just had to learn a whole way. You got to prove yourself type shit one day? Shit like that, you know. Really? So did anyone ever give you that advice?

Like, hey, if someone disrespects here, you should probably just turn up because otherwise, like, they're already going to kind of see you as potentially a weak spot? Growing up, motherfuckers gave me that advice, but I didn't really need that advice. Getting older, you know, I ain't really. What about him started taking you serious from older? Because it had to be a time when that's like a white boy ain't gone. I mean, I was always cool with motherfuckers growing up, but when I started static with my fucking like that, I don't really know when my fucking started taking me serious.

I don't really know when they start taking me serious. I would think like probably when I was probably like 13. everybody started playing with guns and shit. That's probably when everything got serious. When they were from fighting the guns and shit, you know. So that's like when you jumped off the porch. Some shit like that. But what was your perspective on that?

Like when was the first time somebody showed you a gun? I see the gun when I was like, six, seven. Six, seven. Yeah, I had my first gun at 10 and 11. But do you remember the first time you saw, like you realize like, oh shit, kids I go to school with are actually like bringing this shit to school or walking around the neighborhood with us? It really wasn't usually kids my age.

I grew up with all my f***s older than me. I was always hanging out with my f***er. I was always with an older crowd. What's the goal? I was like in St. Louis. At this exact moment, they change it all the time. They do their shit everywhere. They love just changing law out of nowhere.

But right now, I don't know exactly. But I think it's open carry for any age. You just can't go buy a gun unless you're 21. You can have a gun. It can be clean. For any age? For any age? Over 18.

Oh, yeah, I'm about saying. Being age of 18. But now that I think about it, I think they're trying to do some new shit where you got to get a, you got to register your shit or something. I get a CD, get some type of license. Because for sure, like, the first time I watched, like, a hood vlog from St. Louis that I think it was a Tommy G. video. I was, like, shocked because you know all these dudes got guns in New York and Chicago and L.A. But in the video, they're just posted up outside, like, in a neighborhood and everybody's got fucking machine guns. and shit. And it's just like, whoa.

Like, I've never seen dudes be this chill about it before. Yeah, St. Louis is different, I must say. I mean, Chicago like that, too. I think it's just the whole Midwest, but St. Louis like that shit. We're a different breed. Why did you feel the need to get a gun at 10?

My fuck just started jumping people and shit like that. Like, it went from fighting to jumping to, you know, my fucking going and getting their own guns and shit. It's easy to get a gun out there, talk about it? For sure. I mean, when I was younger, it wasn't that easy to get a gun when I was younger, but I ain't going to fake it this generation now. Like, in St. Louis, it'd be little-ass kids with switches out there like, they'd be having that shit.

Little-ass kids with switches and drakes and shit. Really? On everything. That's crazy. Why do you think it's like that now and it didn't used to be like that? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's more of like a trend thing.

I think it's more like a trend thing. this what the generation came to type shit. That's what I think it is. I think it's the generation thing. I interviewed this big-ass security guard dude, big homie CC the other day, and he's like 6-7 or some shit, 6-8. And he said he used to move around

and not be scared of shit because he's just big as fucking. He's like, it's honestly different now because the littlest dudes just all have guns. Yeah, little-ass kids carrying switches. They ain't worry about no bodybuilder. Yeah. Little-ass kids with fooies.

They ain't worry about this. How easy is it to get a switch, though? in St. Louis? Yeah. I mean, it's easy, shit. It's easy. What's the going price for, like, a switch? Like, $150.

$150, $200. But is it, like, well known that you could do serious federal time for that? That, like, you might be risking, like, 10 years. Some of them just don't give a fuck. Some of them probably don't know. I ain't going to play with no Switch. That shit dead.

Yeah. I, pow, pow, pow. Illegally, that shit dead. I ain't from to play with no switch. But some of f***, I think they just don't give a fuck. I think some of f***es just going to have to learn the hard way. Hopefully they ain't got to learn the whole I way. I mean, when you hear that shootout with the, what was it, THF Lil Law, that shootout

clip that went viral, there's like the most bullets I've ever fucking heard in a shootout. And it's like, realistically, think about what shootouts sound like when they both have handguns. It's like nothing in comparison to that. But they both had switches. I ain't see the video. Oh, my God. Sounds like hundreds of bullets going up. It was at a gas station.

I don't know. They're just like shooting a music video in like an alley or something. And then you just hear somebody just starts spraying at them. And it's just, I mean, people were suggesting it was fake, I guess. But either way, it's like that shit is just so O-P to borrow Fortnite slang. It's just like that shit is just so crazy that it's just kind of, it's easy to understand why kids are so attracted to it, even though. That's a shit, wow. You're taking so much of a chance with it.

Wow. Yeah, why are you against switches, though? Because you're everybody, they won't. I mean, I ain't against them. I like how they shoot and shit. Yeah. You know, I ain't against switches, but I just ain't, I ain't ready for. I ain't ready to go to the feds behind that shit.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't ready for that shit. Definitely. So, okay, like, as your, like, what were you like in high school? Were you quiet to yourself? Or were you getting in trouble all the time while and out? I only went to the ninth grade. I dropped out in the ninth grade.

So in high school, I mean, I was chilling, though. I was just, I feel like my fuck, felt like I was bad. They didn't want to stay from around me. I feel like I was the type of kid. Like, I was the type of kid, your parents to tell you, you can hang out with me type shit. Like, that's happened before on some shit.

shit like like my parents to tell them don't be around me tell their sons and daughters like don't be around him he bad news on some shit you were that bad that early on that's what they did shit that's what they thought that's what they I guess of shit what led you to dropping out

I ain't gonna fake it to school I was going to I was going to a St. Louis public school that my fucking was just bunk but I ain't going to see her like they ain't the reason I dropped I just got tired of going on some shit Yeah. I started with a little bitch. I got tired of going.

That's all shit. Yeah. How'd your parents feel about that? Yeah, first they was on my ass, but shit, I just, when I was shit, I just stopped going. They couldn't really say shit for real. Yeah, so even with your parents, like, doing drugs and shit, they still were trying to, like, make sure you was doing it right there?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. They were still trying to get on my ass about certain shit, especially when I was way younger, like, being bad as fucking shit trying to break windows steal shit they get on my ass

about this shit how many times how many times four times I've only been arrested as a dog one time though so when was the first time you got arrested

first time I got arrested I was like 12 years old I got caught with a gun in 1911 I got charged with possession of stolen firearm how did you get that how did I wait how did you get the gun

how'd I get the gun I had traded somebody I had traded another gun for another gun. So you were so young, you weren't even thinking about the fact that that might not go over so well with the cops? What, having the gun? Or trading guns like that? They didn't know I was trading. Oh.

That ain't how I got caught with the gun. That's how I got the gun. You're saying how I got the gun charge? Yeah. Oh, I was in the car. Somebody wrecked. And then I was just standing there. And then this kid, I was, I had some, I had a problem with him.

I had a problem with this kid. And his parents walked up to me. His parents was like, he a badass little dude, this and that, this and that. Showing videos with me and guns and shit. Come on, he'd be threatening my son. On the spot, they're showing the cops. And I'm blowing it down like, like, fuck you bitch. Woo.

I'm blowing it down. At first, I ain't on that with brumma. Like, I don't be on that with nobody mama. But she's like, you should have died in that co-accident, woo, all type of shit. And then she like, she's like, check his waist. It looks like he got a gun right now. But he'll me check my shit. He pull out a big ass 1911, 4-5.

instantly put me a cuff. I'm like, damn, she straight just told them. Damn, that's a big gun for a little kid. I was a book. You was calling that much havoc in your area already where she already had videos, you with guns and shit, she wants you off the streets? She just. That's how

that's how my friends be. They don't want their baby out of getting killed, so they want to, you know? Was your homie friend? Huh? Was it your homie friend? No, it was you saying who's my homie's your friend? Mom, I mean. No, no.

It was like somebody had a problem with their mama. Like an op mama type shit. How long were you locked up for? When? For that? Yeah. I was locked up for three days. I got it on my three-day hearing.

Oh, okay. Did you see any lit shit while you were locked up for those three days? No, that was the first time I got locked up. I ain't really see shit. Okay. And so then did that kind of change your behavior at all? Or was there any real consequences? No, it wasn't a real consequence.

They didn't drop this shit. They dropped this shit. I ain't no real consequences. yeah that shit ain't teach me nothing and you got to rest of your nothing two or three more. I just kept it like more real than most people yeah it didn't teach me nothing because I'm

thinking about like did it teach me something no because I went home and instantly he was like grab the other gun grabbed the revolver like damn now I got to go back to this but did you really feel like you couldn't be outside without a gun at that point or at that point I did think about that because if

that's why I really wanted a gun when I got because everybody was on my on my Facebook and shit this before Instagram was really cracking and really started back cracking everybody all on my Facebook like we gonna catch him he just got caught with that gun he ain't got no gun no more we gonna get him type shit I'm like damn they think you know so Facebook's that crazy in St. Louis that everybody's just like openly plotting on you I mean that was that was years ago that was when Facebook really was that was hell of years ago but was it like a situation where like but yeah you know my ex used to be arguing on Facebook post and shit like that like having Facebook be bitches fighting over Facebook and shit like yeah

over just getting into it over over a post and they'll link up in person and really fight so it was more so just fights going on wasn't like any shootouts where you felt like you needed the gun because like niggas was blicking at you at the gun no no somebody i knew somebody i knew it got pistol whip that's what really made us go get guns and shit somebody i knew got pistol on some shit like that that's what really made us go get guns were you thinking about being a rapper along the way during all this, or when did that come into the picture? I ain't gonna lie, I always thought like I should be a rapper. I know I turn up on their ass.

I know how I blow, but I never did it. I never did it. My brother, Ray O'Dini, got me rapping. He didn't want you know. He didn't want got me in the stew, pushed me to do that shit, you know? He like, I don't hear it. They were already doing their thing musically? Yeah, he was already rapping this shit.

He'd been rapping before that. I've been in his videos and shit. So there was, like, an existing drill scene? That's really what it was, too. I was in his videos. They, like, he sat in line like, Louisville, called the PLR, his GP the artist car, they were fucking with it.

You know, bro, got me rapping this shit, and they were fucking with it. We turned up on their ass. And what age is when you start rapping? I want to say like 15. And did it start going viral right away? I mean, not right away, but it started smacking more than, like, it started smacking, like, good views,

like, did a popular St. Louis artist to have. You know what I'm saying? It was good for a start. Like, it was hell of good for just starting. But no, my shit didn't instantly start just smacking on. Did you grow up feeling as if St. Louis was basically, like, not really that relevant in the music world? Yeah, because there's just been very few people who kind of, like, broke through and something, even, like, 30 deep grimy getting locked up, like, basically as he was starting to blow up. Yeah, I always felt like growing up anyways, like, when it was just regular St. Louis rappers, before Sexy Red, Ferrifere, before 30 Deep and Sexy Red.

But they blew up. I always felt like St. Louis was just most slept on when they come to music. And we got some good-ass music art. We got some good-ass artist. It's been like slowly building up. Yeah, it's been getting out of. And then I feel like sexy red breaking through. That helps a lot, yeah.

Yeah, I appreciate her for that. But when she's dissing the Crips on the North Side or whatever, is that you? She dissing the Crips on the north side? I heard one song where she's saying, like, you Crips from the other side of town ain't shit or something. I was like, oh, damn, she got a ops. I don't know about that. I don't know about sexy red dissing no cussie. I hope I'm not fucking.

it up. I think I heard it say that in one song. No, I ain't even from the north side. I'm from the south side. Okay. I forget what side she said it was, but I heard her just distance from the north side, but it's, in St. Louis, it really ain't about one side, be for one side or red going against blue. It's more about like this gang going against

this gang and this hood going against this hood because all bullshit. It all start with bitches and money and bullshit like that, you know. So you had a full understanding of the whole op thing even when you were young or did that just kind of come into focus as time by just came in the focus as time went by i ain't know all about that shit i mean i mean you know something about it from listening to chicago

rappers and shit like that but you don't really know about that shit until you you experience that shit for real till you really got real ops out here you know do you feel like most of the ops out there or most of the the gang beef is like more recent shit because like you know in l. it's kind of like there's a lot of hoods that don't get along and it's like a 40 year old thing It's shit like that, too. It's a huss in St. Louis. They've been beefing for years. They've been beefing before I was born type shit.

And it'll be the younger generation, keep that shit going. But it won't just be this side. It'll be both sides. They both keep that shit going. Right. You from a Crip hood, though? Because everybody on line, they think you're a Crip for some reason. Yeah, I don't know why they think I'm a Crip.

No, I ain't from no Cripp of it. Oh, word. What's the name of y'all? It's CTS, right? CTS. CTS. and the C is from y'all block that's the name of york toys that's where they get i guess that's where they get the uh get the crib stuff from i forget what tom and j was saying that stood for in

the video but it was something way more aggressive city trap something y'all got other acronym for it too certified trap stars certified trap stars yeah who was the one that uh lynx y'all with tom and g for that shit it was it was uh it was an old home boy it was oh home boy oh so y'all not so the people that was in that because it's two different videos. I ain't gonna figure it's some of my in the original video that still like, you know, like probably like one person

for real for real, just one person, bro, I came here with he was in the video y'all seen Winky G. He's probably the only muff, like one of the only motherfuckers in that video I'm still cool

other than Tifo. What happened? My right-hand man. Free T-Foe. He's my right-hand man. How'd you end up befriend so many of them? I mean, it ain't really do.

It ain't really done beefing with them. It's just, you know. Shit happens, you know. What fuck is just stop fucking with people. And then when you get locked up, you see, you see who real and who ain't and shit like that. Certain shit go on, you know. What kind of shit? What happened while you were locked up?

I mean, shit. It's a lot of shit that happened, bro. Like, you know, I ain't really trying to get too deep and toward about them because I ain't trying to really, you know. But shit, it ain't really shit too serious. It's a lot of shit. My f***ing my books. My f***ers. Right.

I'm hearing my fuck. They're popping perks and shit. All type of shit that just wouldn't be going. on if I was out type shit, you know? What's wrong with popping purse? Yeah, a lot of people doing that. Nah, bro, like, you gotta be moving right, bro, if you around me, like, we ain't doing that.

I circle ain't popping perks and drinking lean and shit. I know every hood my fucking go to is lean, and we ain't really doing all that. We just smoking weed over here. Well, you feel like it's too dangerous for you to just be getting loaded? Yeah, for sure. It's too dangerous, and it just ain't, ain't nothing I partake in. I don't judge nobody for doing shit. Like, I got home boys.

to pop ex pills. I ain't got no home boys to pop no perks, but yeah, I'd be hearing pop perks be stealing this shit. They'd be tripping this shit, like, that's just what I... It's that good.

You just got to steal. Yeah, that's real. I heard they be stealing this shit, like you can't leave them around, shit there. Steers out your house and shit. I mean, the more powerful the drug, the more likely it is that at some point

you're going to ruin your entire life just trying to get more of that drug. Like a real crackhead? Fintol in there. They're my f***ing out of fintin'all in there. They're my f***s be 99, 97% finton. Yeah, that's what they want. A lot of people.

The fake 30s, they're not opposed to that. That's like... I heard 30s wasn't even a real thing. Like, you can't even get prescribed 30s. I don't even know, honestly. I don't know. But who blocked was that? So, alright, because there's two different time of G videos.

You did one recently, but then you got one from like 20, 22. Yeah. Who blocked? That was your street? No, that wasn't my street. That was the north side. That's probably why y'all was thinking I'm from the north side. Yeah, that was the north side, though.

And that's a group called artillery, artillery. Artillery game, that ain't they hood. That wasn't they hood either? No, that ain't, that ain't none of hood. That's just somewhere we be. Somebody lived over there. We used to just be posted over there. Yeah, because Tommy G.

That's a hood, though. That's a hood. So how y'all shoot a video on a random hood? Because Tommy G. We said he beat out to it. We was tied in with them. You know, we stayed over there. So we used to be buying weed from them and shit like that.

They stayed right across the street, so we knew them and shit like that. So that was three different clicks coming together, kind of. Because you got the CTS. Who hood it really was? They wasn't even really in the video like that. Because they didn't want to be in a video like that on some shit. Word. It was really just all the young, motherfuck.

So CTS and Artillery CTSR artillery and Valet Gang Yeah That's the three groups that was in the In the Tommy G interview Because I seen I seen artillery And I guess G baby

He's from artillery Yeah And y'all fell out He said like Ever since you got that jail You been on some fake shit Or you I guess shit

I don't even know that man I straight don't know that man like that I straight Met that man right before I got locked up He got out Like right before I went in I don't know that man like that But shit

Yeah Yeah Oh, because from the video just looked like I always like tightening cahoots and shit. He wasn't in the video. So he the one who got Tommy G out there? Yeah, he got Tommy G down there. Oh, I'm for sure. Yeah, he didn't want to got Tommy G down there.

But so you didn't know him when you shot that first video, but then Tommy G ended up like becoming more interested in you? When we shot the video with Tommy G, I knew who bro was. Right. I didn't know him like that. Like, I still don't know him like that. But you formed like a friendship or like at least you were talking to him after that first one. and then you just happened to... Yeah, we'll probably have some few words and shit, you know.

Okay, but then you... He was more like, my people's peoples on some shit, you know? Okay. So I didn't really, like... I ain't really with all that friendly shit. I don't really be trying to be cool with new motherfuck and shit like that. So I really wasn't talking to him too much.

Is he like a rapper or song? So, like, he booked Tommy G for y for y'all? I don't think he booked Tommy G. I think Tommy G reached out or some shit. Like, I don't really know exactly how that shit happened. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know what he do. I don't know what he is.

He don't rap. I don't know. But, okay, so how long after you did that first video did you end up getting into this situation where you caught the murder charge? Shit. It was 22. It was a month after that for sure. Because I got caught in October, I got locked up in October. I think it happened in August, though.

So it was only a couple months later? Yeah. Do you feel like that video in particular kind of made you a lot more well-known in the end? area? For sure. It's got to be a big deal when somebody does a hood vlog that gets like millions of views. Yeah, I'd be having people seeing me all the time. Like, are you CTS Lewis? Straightf with your music? I'd be liking that shit, though. But did you feel like it was increasing, like, the pressure on you or like people, people were

hating and wanted to do something to you? Man, my f***'s going to hate. That's just how life is. My f***ers hate this. My f***es hate what's going on right now. They hate that I'm on your platform. They hate hate that shit. Really? It is what it is. Shit, I'm from the shine. Yeah. They're just going to hate it. They're going to keep hating. They ain't going to stop.

They're just going to keep hating. It is what it is. I ain't mad at them, you know. Right. It's what it is. Everybody play their part. If they want to hate it, that's the part they're going to play. For sure.

So what was that day like? What were you doing before you actually ended up in this situation? Man, I was chilling, bro. I was chilling. I just, like, remember I told you, I was riding the bike and shit? I used to be riding the bikes and shit. Bro, call me, like, you're trying to ride. We're riding and shit.

dude bucking you turn he started following us and shit I'm looking back he pulled up on me like you looking at what did you look at he instantly upburn on me like fuck all that I'm like I ain't you know shit you know I'm with some kids and shit I ain't on shit I ain't on shit I ain't trying to make shit happen you know

I'm like I ain't on shit you up lick I'm like fuck all that when I speed off he gets smacking at me I get to smack him back at him shit what happened happened shit so how far away you think he was when you hit it, like, pretty far away, or was it kind of close up? I mean, it was kind of far,

it wasn't that close. It was pretty, it was probably, you probably would think it was close. I think it was kind of far. It was probably like a car length of way. Right. But really, like, you were both shooting at each other, so you kind of just got lucky in this exchange?

Like, it could have kind of gone the other way, too, huh? Shit, it could have went the other way, yeah. It could have went the other way. But so what did you decide to do at that point? You go on the run or you would wait for the cops to show up? I ain't wait for the police. I ran instantly because I ain't know I ain't know who's gonna get out the call

I ain't know what was going on you know Did you even know he was dead? All right so you didn't know that Yeah I watched them rap I watched them rap up but shit I just ran from the scene I was scared shit You know

Scurder the police shit I know how the police be doing my They'd be beating the fucking I know y'all see my mug shot The police had beat my ass Really? How long did it take Let me catch you So it happened in August

I'm pretty sure And I got caught in October Oh shit, where'd you go to camp out? I wasn't really trying to run. I wasn't really trying to run. I was calling lawyers and shit. I was going to turn myself in, all type of shit, but... But was it on the news and everything that they were looking for you?

No. They just came to my mama house. They came to my birdhouse like, we got a wonderful question that. And I wasn't there. She called me, tell me and shit. I'm like, shit, I'm going to find a lawyer. I'll get a lawyer. I tell a lawyer the situation and shit.

He's like, well, they ain't really going to make a difference. if you turn yourself in now because you already kind of ran a little bit and shit he was like he was like you could turn yourself in but it ain't going to make a difference so I'm like I'm gonna just I'm gonna just chill for a second I know I'm gonna sit down for a second like I knew I was gonna be my shit because I've been in a self-defense situation before you know really yeah for sure what was the other situation I got booked for in the soft first degree when I was a juvenile I was like 13 or 14 yeah I had to shoot somebody they was waving the gun and shit I was just walking out the street. It was this grown-ass dude. He's like, fuck you grinning that. And I'm like,

huh? He instantly get to waving his little gun and shit. I instantly up-blick on him. He's like, you ain't going to blow that motherfucker of a white boy. You ain't going to blow that motherfucker of a white boy. I just get the blowing at his ass. And I got booked for that shit. That's when I first even found out what self-defense was. I thought I was going to go up them ways. And so you beat that just because he had pulled the gun out first? Yeah. So it sounds like the self-defense laws are pretty liberal in in St. Louis. I mean, you can't just pull a gun on the

motherfucker, especially in an altercation. Did he get shot in the altercation the first one? Yeah, he got shot. Oh, word. He survived that's why I was a saw. He got shot, he survived. He got shot and survived. He couldn't find out dudes on probation for child moletation and shit.

Oh, shit. He was like, I thought he was a hood dude. I thought he was regular, like, you know, he'd be smoking weed and shit, carry a little gun and shit. I knew, I used to know him and shit. But somebody ended up having a problem with him and shit. up having problems with him and shit. That's why he even came to me like that about the

What You grin at shit, because we had already knew him. But shit, I don't know what dude ass was on probation. He wasn't even supposed to have a gun. But that must have made shit kind of more intense for you, right? Because you're wondering, like, who's going to want to do something to you after that? Then all of a sudden it's, like, way more important you have a gun. When I heard he was on probation for a child, I'm like, man, I'm a hero. They should be giving me a medal.

I'm Batman. For real. They should be giving me a medal for that shit. I'm like, I wish he would have died. I wasn't tripping. I'm like, shit. If my fuckers want to slide about him, they f***ed up in the head too.

Because they condone that shit. But that's the problem when you're dealing with street cats. A lot of them are basically fucked up in the head. You can't really, like, expect them to be, like, super irrational all the time. Because it's certain motherfuckers to just do shit. And they ain't got no more. It's like a certain shit. It's certain shit I wouldn't do, you know.

Like, it's certain shit I wouldn't do. Certain shit I wouldn't do. Like, I wouldn't shoot at my fucking-day mama or something like that. It's rules. It's rules to certain shit, you know. So you respect the cold like that? For sure. In the situation with the dude, you said he invited you to go ride bikes?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you knew him already? Who? No. You said he invited you to go ride by? No, not the dude that died. Nah. All right, so you didn't know him?

No, I didn't know him at all. So he was just, you was just randomly riding on bike and he was shrilling? Yeah. Word. I don't know if he was. He was trying to rob me or he knew me or what it was. I don't know what it was. I don't know why he was on me.

Yeah. Damn. So when you get locked up, how long do you have to go sit down and wait? 15 months. I had to sit for 15 months. And then they just tell you like, hey, we're not going to charge you? Mm-mm. What the fuck?

They go all the way to trial. And I won in trial. And you couldn't bail out? No, I never had a bond. Okay. Never had a bond. I took the shit all the way to trial. And I've seen my lawyer like two times.

Never got a motion. discovery. He did his job, though. He did his thing, for sure. Where did you get the money to get a lawyer? Shit, I had some money put up already, and then I was fucking with this female and shit. You know, she's halfway holding me down. You know, she's hitting the books. She's just fucking off, you know, ain't nothing wrong with it. A female got their needs. You read me? I told her that. You know, you got your needs? If you're going to fuck, you're going to fuck. You read me? You know, my fucking. She was selling a shit.

No, no, like a motherfucker got their needs. Like, she need dick. That would be dope, though, if you were just. straight up told her like, go sell you until you're paying for my lawyer. Go say that motherfucker. Go say that my motherfuck. Go say that my motherfuck. Put that paper on my books. Because to beat a murder, I mean, you're going to probably end up paying like 50, 100K

on the lawyer, right? 20 bands on the lawyer. 20 bands got it beat. And it was in payments and shit. Right. I gave him like five bands up front. Were you sweating it in court or were you, like, certain you were going to beat it? When I was in trial, I was sweating like a one.

I was scared. I was, all the people in there. The prosecutor in them was like, he did this. He guilty of this. He, all type of shit, they tried to paint a picture. They tried to, they try to fuck me over in her. Did they bring up your lyrics or your music videos? Yeah, they did bring up one of my music videos.

They brought that motherfucker like he'd be having guns and shit, you're a violent person. And was, uh, did they point out any lyrics in particular, or they're just, like, showing, like, images of the guns? Yeah, they brought up all the song. Right. They brought up a song that was recording before the crime took place, before the incident took place. Uh-huh. And they tried to say it was about the situation? say it was about the situation which when you listen to it you would think it is like i said something

like uh caller dula i say call them lack and popped them up we down there flipped over his ride and if you look at the article the jeep almost flipped over so when they heard that i can understand why they think that but i had evidence to prove that that song was old i had a trill on my instagram there was there was old before that incident took place and i told my lawyer that and it was the same lyrics they was trying to use against me. And they still used it against me. They didn't give a fuck. And I said, no thumping in my bag, I keep it in my hand on my side.

Like, no thump, no gun in my bag. I keep it in my hand on my side. They took the no out of it, right? Because on the thing I told them I pulled my gun out of my bag. And they used the thing and took the no and used thumping in my bag and took the no off. Like, they just wanted to use what they wanted to use. used. They was trying to fuck me over in there. Because it's like if your

lawyer tries to argue it, it's like a good chance that the jury is just not going to get it or they're going to think you're bullshit or whatever. So for them it's like they get to go first and does your lawyer even really want to like spend a bunch of time trying to like debunk this and shit? It's like. For real, he show was like it ain't really, it ain't shit. It ain't

shit. Yeah, it's crazy too. I was tripping off the lyric. Probably almost every rapper if they got into a situation like yours, you could find some lyrics that would be like, oh, look at this. This is basically matches up to that. For sure. Yeah.

I'll be speaking shit into existence sometimes. You kind of feel like that with the way you were talking in some of your music early on? I feel like everybody speaks shit to exist. I know a motherfucker-rap

got the whole gang indicted got their whole circle indicted speaking that shit up. Local dudes? You just see the shit happen? I just seen that happen. I'm like, damn, he's speaking that shit up

in the songs? Whole gang and got indicted. He spoke some bad shit up. Wow. That made you watch what you be saying in your rap's and shit now when you're seeing

they're just taking whatever? I mean, I'd be speaking good shit in my rap's, like, not positive shit. I ain't going to say I speak positive, but I try to speak positive for myself, like good shit, like say some good shit to happen, you know? Definitely. So, okay, after you beat that, though, how did you feel? Shit, I feel like the man.

No, I'm just playing, bro. I just went, I was, man, I was happy than a month. I ain't going to fake it. I ain't know. That shit was wild. I didn't think I was coming home. I knew I was coming home, but I thought they was. gonna try to railroad me that shit was just unbelievable that I really beat the murder

shorts like it was unbelievable but I knew it was gonna happen I kept telling everybody like well I'm gonna beat this I'm gonna go home and turn up I'm gonna go home and take this music shit serious I'm gonna do this and do that your people who was believing you yeah yeah when did you beat the case the murder 24 January so recently could like you did the January like 26 yeah because you did the first day out like six months ago mm-hmm how long it take you to record that when you drop it I record that When I first got out, it took me a little second to shoot the video and shoot them. Why?

I don't even know. I was just bullshit. Really? Yeah. So you weren't really that focused? It took you three months to shoot a video? I just had to get used to being home. I didn't expect, like, I knew I was coming home, but it's like, when it really happened, I didn't like, I was like, damn, I got to go do this and do that. I got to go do this, and I just wanted to enjoy myself, you know.

I enjoy being home. Did you get way more famous as a result of that situation? Yeah, I would say. Turn me up. For sure. Was you writing raps and jail? What was your headspace like? Yeah,

I was locked up. I was jelling, bro. I was jelling in that motherfucker. I was whipping up, burritos, nachos. I was reading books,

urban books. I was, I was on the tablet a lot. God damn me on video chat. Telling bitches, play with that cat on the phone. God damn me.

I was smoking weed in that muffing. Smoking cigarettes in that motherfucker. How easy is it to get weed? shit. It was kind of hard, bro. It was kind of hard to get the weed. It's easier to get, like, meth and heroin and shit? I don't know.

I think people would bring that type of shit in with them. Yeah, you hear about all that shit more than weed. I don't think that's nothing to see what I was really going to bring in. I think that's the type of shit, like, type of shit somebody was bringing it with them. How much they're charged for, like, weed in there? Like, how much you got to spend? I ain't going to figure they was taxing for that shit. That shit, like $10 a stick.

And a stick probably, like, a point two or something. Stick just a stick of weed. Right. But that kept you buying shit? I mean, I could jail without this shit. I could jail without the weed, cigarettes, any of that shit.

But shit. It ain't really keep me buying, had that shit the whole time. You got along with everybody while you were locked up, or was that some tension? I mean, when I first got there, shit,

when I first got there, I got into a little scuffle. Other than that, my fuck was really f***ed with me, though. My fuck through with me. They just synced it out. They just, you know,

anybody like it's like it'll be a motherfucker that don't know me and they got a problem with somebody i know they just don't like me but if a motherfucker really sit and talk to me they f*** with me like they f*** with me you know definitely so how much uh you've been like just going a lot harder with the music being more consistent in general do you feel like you're seeing the the difference in terms of just how that makes your shit perform better what do you mean by being consistent yeah just by putting shit out more consistently. Yeah, I think they love it. I think they like it. I think I'm going up.

Definitely. Where K Slug at? You still about one? Yeah, he in the county. Free K Slugs. Free Gets, free G. Free K. Spas. Free Muka G. Free. Free Tfo. What about Guap? Free Debo gear, free Lid E. Gwap. Yeah, free the parkers, man.

Oh, right, right. Man, free my parkers. Tifo, he got, I ain't even going to... He got less than two months left. That's all I'm going to say. He got less than two months left. Tifo, he in prison. He got less than two months left. left. How many of the guys' books?

You seem like a lot of y'all locked up right now. And a lot of eye-ass book shit. Yeah. A lot of eye-ass. Like most of your crew? Like, would it be totally different if they were all out? Yeah, it'd be hell of different. But they're not doing like crazy long sentences or are they? Some of fighting that drama though. Some of

fighting bodies and shit and robberies. You know what I'm saying? Brother from to take your shit to trial. Take a robbery to trial. You're from the window. Were you paying attention to all the Chicago drill and drill from other countries or other cities as you were getting more into the music scene? Are you like a Chicago? Yeah, I was paying attention to all that shit.

I f*** with Milwaukee rappers. I f*** with Chicago rappers. I f*** with a lot of rappers, Detroit rappers. I'm trying to think. I f***ed a lot of rappers. I mean, I used to listen to a lot of rappers. But you know how I'd be like, you will be listening to one person for a second and then you would get off him like, I ain't really, he ain't dropping shit.

I'm tired of his music, you know. You're on some shit like that. Like you'll start listening to the. instead. I don't some shit like that. I mean, it really is kind of like that, right? Yeah, I was just a shit like that. Like the popular rapper will be thriving when he's out,

and then when he goes back in, it kind of opens the door for their enemies to gain some ground. Yo hood into it with 30D Groom hood or no? Is my hood into it with them? Yeah. No. Or any of the hoods from any of the vlogs? Because Tommy G., he apologized.

They said that in the comments, he was getting a whole bunch of flat because I guess they made. It ain't really personally. with 30 deep grimy. You know what I'm saying? It's just like motherfuckers like don't really fuck with his kind.

What? Yeah, motherfuckers in the city don't really fuck with him. When you say his kind, what you mean? His kind, like as in

all that orange shit he'd be wearing and they don't really like that shit. Well, that's where he's from? We don't even know what gang he's from that.

Y'all ever heard of a six-duce crib? That's some California shit? I ain't think so. No. I ain't think it was no California shit.

I thought it was some St. Louis shit. Yeah, that's pretty much what and all that orange shit be that's just some six-d-d-s shit oh okay and that was dissing them in the tommy g videos on rob some shit like that or any backlash came to y'all for that i y'all really a nothing about it no no man free grimy right where so you really don't got anything against him or if he gets out is it gonna be like i mean i ain't got nothing against him you know i don't

even disrap bro i don't even disrap i don't know 30 d gram me i don't got nothing against them i really do hope they free him because i don't wish that shit on my worst end of me. I wasn't just being sarcastic. I really do hope they free him. Now, as far as do I fuck with him, do I listen to his music, would I do a song with him? No. No, I don't fuck with him. I wouldn't do a song with him. Ain't no friendly shit, you know?

Yeah. But as far as having a problem with him? No, no. I haven't a problem with him, though. Like, it ain't no static with him. I've seen, I've seen someone where you say that my fucks be doing high speeds a lot out there. They do. How many high speeds you've been on? Realistic. Man.

See, now you're You said you're the high-speed King around the Knicks be getting away off the high speeds though Like how easy is it to get away? It depends if you got the helicopter On you or not It's certain shit

But shit it's easy and say Lord Shit, my fuck be baking their ass My fucking be taking their ass Where Is the Kia boy era over? It's dirty It's just different It's harder to pull it off now

it's looked at differently. Really? It's dirty. By the cops, by everybody. But when you say dirty, like just some bum shit to do it's on? Yeah, some bums shit.

You pull up on a bitch and the kid and she's jumping that motherfucker. I'm like, boy, you're in the crackdown? You're hell of dirty. Yeah, I feel like that's some dirty shit. It's some kid shit, too. I think it's some kid's shit.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, because when you're a kid, you like, borrow on your mom's car or whatever. You drive any car when you're in high school and shit. That's a kid shit, stealing kids. As you get older, you start to like think more about how you're presenting yourself. It's like the Dodge Man era.

Stealing Dodge vans and shit. I wasn't stealing Dodge vans. Yeah. I never cracked down no damn Dodge Man. But I've seen it, but I never crack down the Dodge Man. But it's like that. It's just the era of muffling.

It's probably going to be another era of another car that they're going to be able to steal hellily easily and motherfuckin' not going to expect it. You never know. You might be able to jump into Tesla. Press three buttons on that bitch and that bitch start up and don't get track. But you never know.

But that's the difference with the Tesla is that they'll be able to just like issue a software update. But with the Kia, they got to like do a recall and like do a fucking change to all that. And change all the ignition. Yeah. Kill switches in the motherfuck. Yeah. It's just crazy. Y'all got ready about the FBI?

Yeah. Was that a different scenario or was that what the, when you had caught the charge? Yeah, that was way before that. That was on some. They was coming for, they was coming for items. They wasn't, they had a search warrant for. So they wasn't looking for actual people. They just came there for items.

Like the warrant said, they was looking for, like, Social Security cards, credit cards, stolen cars, stolen cars, guns, stolen guns, stolen persons, like, shit to get stolen other cars and shit. It was your crew with something? Yeah, it was my crew. So break that day down, like, when the feds came or? Shit, I had woke up, goddamn me. Bruck came in that motherfuck and left, but he left brother. He left the other home with her. And I'm just chilling on my phone.

I had just woke up, though, but my sleep schedule was messed up. So I had woke up probably like 11 or something, 11 at night. Yeah. My sleep schedule just fucked up. So I wake up. I'm on my phone and shit. I think I hear a loud-ass TV or something, like a movie or something. Like, I'm thinking it's a loud-ass TV.

So I go in the front room, my people's room and shit. I see the, uh, I see all red and blue lights out the, like out the window, out of the blind. So I look out of the blind. It's all SWAT team trucks in. Hellas of their ass, I'm like, we're going to have to open the door. Like, we're going to have to do something. I instantly go set the gun on the safe. I had a legal gun.

It was in my old dude name. It was a Ruga 5-7. I set that motherfucker on the safe. I'm like, they ain't going to be able to take it. They took that too. God damn me. They came through that bitch. They put a batter ram through the wall.

Put a big-ass batter-ram through the wall. Came in them up. Got us out there, my father. I had us sitting in the cold for hellas. finally put us in the patty wagon they really ain't fine shit they found the few guns they did find the car

that's about it that damn they took my phone and let us go shit oh yeah and they let you all the same day yeah they let us out the paddy wagon they ran our names made sure they had no warns

nothing came from that after that they told me the only reason they didn't lock me up is because I was 17 but I think they was just line I think they were just trying to scur me like, I think they ain't locked me up because they couldn't lock me up.

You know what I'm saying? Because they didn't have shit on me. I didn't get caught with shit and I, they didn't have no hard evidence on me to book me for no car break ends. What the, what the fed's doing searching all and shit? Like, who asked me to know?

I don't know. That sounds like somebody around. Tell them. Are you saying like, oh, shit, my fucks was getting caught. Shit. My fuck's bringing like computers and shit to the crib and shit. That's tracking locations and shit.

You know? Yeah. like that. Pulling up cars to that motherfuckers. Cars probably got trackers in there. And where is sloppy? How were you when this is? I was 17. And you 20 now? Or 22? I'm 20. Yeah. Damn. Because I seen you, they said you're like an OG in the hood now. At 20.

That's crazy, right? Something like that. That's real? Because, I mean, I feel like when we talk to Chicago dudes, there is a vibe that if you make it to 30, you've kind of like survived this war. You mean, is it real? And I'm an OG in my hood? Yeah. I mean, bro, like Some kids probably look at me As a big homie, but do

Another old old old guy, be like, oh, that's OG Wick over there. Like, you motherfuckers call me OG? No, I was just being funny. I was just saying, yeah, I'm the OG around this motherfucker. But yeah, motherfuckers do look at me as like, they don't look at me as a little-ass kid or a young dude, you know? They just look at me as a like stand-up dudes, you know? You ever used to say that N-word when you were younger? Nah.

Never your thing? No. amongst the homies but not in raps and shit Right like Because you grew up in the black neighborhood No not like Never really said it bro Like never got into that

I know it's like Because I got this co-host break baby He's always trying to get me to say it Bro he'd be like say it Go ahead bro You good Like said bro He'll dangle a perk in front of me

And be like just say it Just said Go ahead You good bro I'm telling you It is like that I'm not falling for Yeah I'll be alive.

They'd be like, say it. Go ahead, said. Just one time. They'd be like just said. Nobody will care. It'll be fine. So what G. Baby and I'm going to say about this interview?

Shit, I don't know. Shit. I don't know. He probably he hella happy. I just said he brought Tommy G. Danner. You did that game. Yeah.

Because he show said. They said that he made you. Come on, bro. You felt like that was disrespectful for them to say, right? Nobody made me, bro. Like, I did all this shit on my own. I was already rapping before I knew him. Nobody, nobody made me, bro.

I told y'all who got me rapping. Yeah. If you want to say somebody made me, that's who made me right there. Yeah. I just told y'all who got me rapping. He didn't give me rapping. He brought Tommy G down here. He didn't bring Tommy G down here for me.

You know what I'm saying? But then Tommy G. Tommy G. Tommy G just fucked with me because, you know what I'm saying? He just f***ed with me, bro, I can't stop a motherfucker with me off the person I am. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's real. I don't know, bro.

I don't know why they're mad at me, bro, because I don't fuck with them. You know what I'm saying? My fuck's welcome home rats and shit. My fucking don't snitching. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not funny even get on her. I don't even want to talk about them for real, you know?

Fuck them. I hope they win, shit. The show. The other day I was doing an interview with somebody, and he was, like, a comedian. He was, like, asking me about white rappers. And one of the things that we said in the conversation, is basically like, yeah, there are

popular white rappers, but you never see, like, a popular, like, street white rapper. Like, really don't. That's very, very rare. And with you, especially with, like, beating that charge, it's kind of hard to deny. Like, you might be, like, near the top of that

pile. I mean, yeah, I don't really know no other street rappers, street white rappers. I'm sure they're out there, but, yeah, for sure, not too many. shit I don't know I don't know

I don't really know I don't really know a lot of white rappers My boy called Alexander shit But he ain't a gangster white rapper You know Right He just be talking about the bitch He's shaking ass and shit

True know But shit he got his own way If he got his own You know Right I mean like Jack Harlow's big deal But yeah Jack Harlow He doesn't make that

Oh no I know It's in chamber You can't tie me down That's his shit ain't it I don't know Is it? Possibly

Sounds like something He's got a big ass hits and shit he's a big superstar but obviously he's not trying to be like a tough guy or anything yeah he'd just be chill so you follow the white represent shit yeah they're cool hey yeah they cool anybody you actually listen to though who's white slim jesus yeah the white man is a good man he's a good i'm bro i'm pro in tiler the creator oh bro i don't even know man i don't even really know thyle is you know not for real no he cool he's a legend too but You feel like you and Ian could kick it in real life type of shit?

Like, I feel like y'all on the same type of time. We ain't on the same type of time, but shit, I can link up with him and, you know? Yeah. He could bring some hose around and shit, you know? I could be on some Vine shit. Like, I got 10 hos and his B and Biottoe in. Come get near. For real.

Come get near. That's what I was going to say. Ian, when he did that song with Vaughn, it's like, it felt like Vaughn like appreciates. It seems like a nice guy. People fuck with him. He's got a good vibe. Yeah, Vaughn too. Yeah, Vaughn's hard.

He's on his ass too. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna tell him. What's your, your brother name was Jody Breeze? Yop Jody Breeze. That's your blood brother?

Nah, he ain't my blood brother. Oh, yeah, because I kind of look alike. So break his story now because he passed away? Yeah, he passed away when I was hell of young. Oh, where? Mm-hmm.

He was just like an OG on me and he and stuff? Yeah, he was my big brother shit. He was my big brother. He taught me a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? A lot of good shit, a lot of bad shit, you know? Yeah. He got killed.

He got shot. or R-R-P. A P. 100%. Um, yeah, shit, is anything else? Like, well, where do you see your rap career at at this point?

Like, in terms of... At this point. What are you trying to take shit? And would you consider sign a label or anything? I just signed a label. Shit. I just signed a deal. I ain't really trying to say too much about it, though.

But yeah, I just signed. Really? Mm-hmm. That's dope. No. Labels have been reaching out? How long how many labels was reaching out before you signed? When I first got out, they was reaching out like a motherfucker.

I had a lot of labels reaching out. But after this recent Tommy G. interview, I had a couple of labels reach out. Turned to a couple motherfuckers down, you know. Would you sign to a rapper? Or would you rather sign to an actual label? Would I sign to a rapper or would I rather sign to a label? Yeah, label or a rapper.

I don't know. That's a good question. I would say a label. The difference is that the label is not really like a couple. post sign. But if you sign the future... Yeah, you sign the Gucci Manor? Yeah, it's like all of a sudden that's like a thing. Yeah, my fuck gonna know you. Literally for the rest of your life, people are gonna be like, oh, sign to Gucci.

Yeah, yeah, he signed to Gucci. Yeah. Like, you're never going to be able to talk about you without pointing out. Really, even when you ain't signed to them, they still gonna think you sign to them. Yeah, you buy a feature from him one time. They're gonna think you signed to them. They're gonna talk about that forever. If you could get any features, who would you want to work with? Dream, like features and shit. Man, that's a hard-ass question, bro, because it's like,

like it's hella rappers that I fuck with right that I don't be really listen to their music no more because I used to listen to them you know what I'm saying like I fuck with my fuck as a person type shit you know what I'm saying like who would I want to do a song with right now because right now

it's my fuck and it's this cracking and it just started cracking on some shit you know like they just started buzz and like vine and chicken pee and shit like that chicken pee been rapping and shit I've been on who chicken pee was you know chicken pee we gotta get the chicken pee interview I fuck with chicken pee chicken pee yeah I do a song with chicken pee

shit I do a song with Vianna of 1700 I do a song with uh who do I want to do a song with those All right who's some rappers that you said that you used to fool with like I used to A little boosy Gucci man yeah NBA young boy god damn me uh There's some more it's some more so you don't really listen to him too much anymore Yeah I don't read this to him too much too much I mean it's always gonna be like that though like a lot of like I always say like I was a huge 50 cent fan but real listen You're not still Right around

Long before he stopped Put music out I stopped checking for his music But it's still like I was a huge fan If I see him I'm gonna say I'm a huge fan It's like realistically

Everybody at some point You kind of tune out Mm-hmm For sure Besides the real legends I f***ing young and ace Shit I'm trying to think

Shout out Ace Yeah I'm fucking young and ace He'll mud I've been listening to him For hellas though I've been listening to him I've been listening I'm for a little second now

You follow Fulio too? Or when he was lost? I never was really listening to him though On some real shit I never was really listening to him I probably know some of his songs though Yeah But I just don't know the names to him though

That's true Realistically I've like listened to a good amount of age Like musically like Like Fulio is interesting But I didn't even know they were really beefing it first Oh yeah No yeah

That was real Um Shit so What's the name What's the name Dave Blunts You like it? Yeah, he's cool, bro, he's different, bro.

Like, he's funny, you know, like, his shit funny. Like, I play this shit around the holes, and they just get to laugh. Like, they like that shit. They think that shit funny, bro, like, shit different. Yeah, he says a lot of unexpected shit. Yeah, he'd be saying some shit. He's a crazy dude, man. Do you feel like the sexy red blow-up makes it so that, like,

it's more likely that St. Louis artists are going to kind of blow up from there? I think so, yeah. for sure I think she most definitely put St. Louis on the mouth. Has she been working with any St. Louis artist? Not that I know of shit. I don't know. I wonder if she's got like a concrete boys type thing at some

point. Like if she got like a bunch of home girls. I wonder if she could create like a little group with some of her home girls. I know she tied in in the city for show. She tied in. She really with that shit. Yeah. Tied in. She got respect in the city for sure. Definitely. So okay. Like you got anything planned? What's coming up?

She for real? Just working on music. gonna keep keep working nothing right now nothing right now just fun to keep working no album dropping EP's just signed with the label they ain't put no pressure for you to drop

a tape or something I owe them some shit it's gonna be some tapes coming out for show yeah end of this year probably before the end of this year yeah for sure definitely what would be your advice

to us if we were to come to St. Louis I mean get a switch no I just just mind y'all business and don't don't make it seem like how I fuck with somebody so hard so don't go to your neighborhood or anything you can go to everybody's neighborhood

but don't show favoritism don't pick any side right don't show favoritism because they're going to take that shit real serious and St. Louis is like fuck as it is petty if you tell me to throw up some gang signs I'm not going to do it right and that wouldn't be smart for you do that shit

Yeah. Like, you can't be like, I don't know, you could do whatever you want shit. Right. But I feel like it wouldn't be smart to like go to, like, say it's this op and this up, right, say it's me, right? Say it's my hood and it's my ops hood, right? And then boom, you come to my hood and you like, I fuck with CTS wig, hell of hard, ooh, this and that, this and that.

Like, you can fuck with me hell of horn, but you got to like, you can't let them know that shit. Like, they ain't going to like this shit. And then if you go over there and you show them anything, different type of vibe like if you show them if you show favoritism if you show me more favoritism than them they gonna they they might want to get on you for some shit like that you know we thought about like going to chicago and just pulling up to a bunch of people's neighborhoods but it definitely seems kind of scary to do that like just going like bouncing between all these different neighborhoods

filming shit knowing that all those neighborhoods fucking hate each other you have one muff a beef with the next month yeah they i'm like no don't put me in the video with him Yeah. No, take me out if you're going to have me in there with him. And then we even thought about just like getting a space, like a hotel suite or some shit and just filming interviews there and having dudes come back and forth. But that's kind of weird, too, to have a dude coming in at one who wants to kill the dude who's coming in at five. For real. And they all know the location.

Yeah. Everybody knows a low. Now they got their ops call. Yeah. It could be tricky. We'll figure it up. All right. Anything else you want to tell the people to look out for?

Shit, man. This is going to be a motherfucker. Michael Jordan story, man. Y'all fin to see us turn the fuck up on everything. Who we need to be checking out on from your onion of the homies? Any of your God, shout them out. Shit, check out, Real Houdini, Wanky G, Gibbs, Spaz, I damn me Tifo.

A damn me. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. That's really about it. That's all the rappers. That's really all the rappers. Real Houdini, Wanky, G., Gibbs, Spaz, T, foe.

Me. God damn me. That way. That way. That way. That way. Y'all still be on Ruskin Nass? Nah.

Nah. Right. So, yo, we appreciate you pulling up, man. And I'm sure everybody, appreciate hearing your story. Drop some comments down below. We want to hear what the people got to say. Yeah. Little Wick.

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