No Jumper - Daboii on The REAL Reason SOB X RBE Broke Up, Kendrick vs Drake & More

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Daboii talks about his recent bid, working with Kendrick, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON...   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today I'm sitting down with a legend, young legend, the boys in the building. Yes, sir. Appreciate you for having me. How are you feeling? Man, I'm feeling good, man. I ain't going to lie. What kind of pink cup is that?
Starting point is 00:00:15 I ain't going to lie. Some of your people just gave me. This is just a little energy drink to keep my energy up. Okay. I ain't going to lie. Just checking. So, okay, you're fresh out of doing a little mini bid there? How long are you gone for?
Starting point is 00:00:27 You're 10 and a half months. Shit. So was that the first time that you did that long of a stretch? Yeah, I ain't a lie. And what was it like? I mean, shit, it was really regular, for real. It wasn't that bad? Nah, it wasn't bad for real.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Of course, the nigga don't want to go back, you feel me? Right. There ain't nothing to glorify nothing, but you feel me, you wasn't that bad. You feel me, you wasn't all good, wasn't all bad. You have to scrap in there, or is it not really like that? Nah, you feel me? I got more love than hate for real. Really?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yeah, because you're a big presence. there, is it, was it kind of overwhelming or what was that like? I ain't gonna lie, it was cool. Like my first, my first couple of weeks, you feel me, you know, you go in there thinking, like, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna get out this cord day, I'm gonna get out this court day.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And once I got it at, you feel like me? Niggas just programming, you feel me, just regularly. Like, I put it in my head, like, I'm probably gonna be in here for a minute, so niggas really, just chilling, for real. But do you think you have, you had a harder time going and sitting down just given the fact that, over the last whatever, like six, seven years of your life or whatever,
Starting point is 00:01:34 you've kind of got used to like a nice lifestyle, whereas a lot of the dudes in there, realistically, you know, they're kind of like going from poverty to being in jail. You're coming from, like, you know, really having shit to being in jail. Did that make it more difficult, you think? Yeah, a little bit. Like, I used to smoke a lot, you feel me? Like, it was hard being in there and not being able to smoke, you feel you?
Starting point is 00:01:57 me like and then I wake up not knowing I'm in jail like you feel me I had to get used to that like damn I'm really in jail right now you feel me like I wake up reaching for my phone like I could check my timeline you feel me what I got over that it was really just good well you really just got a register that shit in your mind like he's going to have to sit down do this little bit of time you feel so how do you pass time when you're in there uh shit working out eating watching TV, watching sports and shit, reading books, writing raps, you feel just regular shit for real. You get to meet cool people in there, though?
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yeah, I met some real niggas in there for show. Some real street-level people that you might not normally encounter. You know, my man was those niggas I was in there with for show. Like, you feel me? They still be tapping in with me to this day type shit, you feel me? I met some real niggies in there for show. That is dope. You meet a lot of, you meet a lot of niggas in there that can sing too.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Sing? Not rap? It's mostly singing? I ain't I can say they rap But you feel me Like I mean nobody
Starting point is 00:02:58 That was really raw With the rap shit You feel me But with singing Niggas had voices On them for show Really Yeah they raw out there
Starting point is 00:03:04 Interesting Yeah I had a friend Who was like a Pro BMX for a while And he got locked up And I remember him just telling me Like bro When they found out
Starting point is 00:03:13 I went to France Like nobody could believe it Like Mother-Brives Asked me about France For like hours Which is like From a normal
Starting point is 00:03:23 dude perspective like in the world that we're in if you've been overseas it's like not that big a deal it's cool but it's not like i'm not going to trip out on you over it's like a lot of people i know have been to france but like i remember him just telling me like how big a deal it was and that kind of like made me realize you are in an environment there where a lot of these people have never really had a lot of these things these experiences a lot of niggas ain't left the state yet you feel a lot of niggins ain't left kelly yet be old men too be like that okay guys i'm asking for a quick favor on this episode. If you could follow Adam 22, bro, on Snapchat, that would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We're posting tons of behind the scenes footage of these interviews before they come out, as well as behind the scenes, antics from my day-to-day life. Follow Adam 22, bro, or take a picture of this QR code and make sure you follow me on Snap. Appreciate y'all. So are you anxious about your music career and maybe the world leaving you behind while you were gone or was it not long enough for you to have that feeling? I don't feel like I got left behind. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:04:28 You're just ready. I'm really just ready to, you feel me, get back in motion for real. I took a little time off, like, for like three weeks. As I got out just making up time with my son, my family and shit, you feel me? But now, you feel me, I'm full-fledged music, nah. Was that part of you that you're the one to go straight to the studio? Yeah, for a show, but you feel me, I had to put, you feel me, was mandatory first, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:04:49 Had to get that bond out the way, rebuilt that. mind type shit you feel other than that nigger full-fledged rap mode now but okay being away from your family versus being away from music
Starting point is 00:05:01 like what's the difference between those two things because you love both of them but yeah mom's shit you still gotta balance that shit when you were in there I got a hell of shit
Starting point is 00:05:12 that I recorded before I went in so you feel me I still dropping shit I dropped a little mixed tape while I was in there called no bill I did a couple
Starting point is 00:05:21 of music videos before I went there I was dropping them like every other month type shit you feel me and I ain't seen my son since the whole time I've been in there you feel me I didn't want them to see me like this you didn't have a visit I could have had a visit but it was my choice for him to not come see me is it through the glass or some shit yeah I mean that's kind of crazy if it's like a little room where you could at least like sit with them and shit give him a hug yeah I probably would have did that but through the glass man yeah too young for that you see me in 10 months yeah yeah yeah He went, when I went in, he was three, he's four now, though.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But, yeah, I ain't want him to see me like that. I was really just telling him that I'm at work, you feel me? I can't tell him I'm at work. Then he comes see me through the glass. He's going to be, like, type of shit is this, you feel me? Did he have a hard time understanding why you would be at work for almost a year? Yeah, he used to ask me, little shit. He used to be like, Daddy, why are you still at work?
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm like, I got to get this money for you, you, feel? Yeah. Then he'd be like, he'd be like, you sleep at work? I'd be like, yeah, I sleep at work. My kid is three and a half and she can figure shit out like that. The little lies that worked like a year ago don't really work that good anymore. Nah, for so. He's getting smarter every day, every day for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Definitely. So what was the situation that actually got you locked up? Because I watched the video, you getting arrested. It looked like they were pursuing you. Like this is a pretty big thing. Yeah, I had a warrant out for my arrest for some bullshit. It's really a bullshit-ass case, though, for real. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:06:51 But the system, the system is the system. You feel, you can't beat that motherfucker for real. What was the case? I had a warrant out for a high speed. I had did, like, in, I don't even. I think it was like 2021, for real. So they tried to pull you over and you just went fast? Yeah, but what's crazy is I was going to court for it on the outs.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I had went to court one day. I was ready to turn myself in. And then they were like, I went to court. They was like, we basically, we're gonna do alternative sentencing,
Starting point is 00:07:26 you feel me? That's basically ankle monitor. Like, I'm gonna do my time on ankle monitor, you feel me? Right. My PO boss called me one day,
Starting point is 00:07:33 not even my PO, my PO boss called me one day. He's like, what happened to court? I'm like, nigga, you're the boss, man, you should know what happened
Starting point is 00:07:42 in the court. You tell me, but you feel me? I gave me alternative sentencing and shit, so I ain't got to turn myself in no more. He's like,
Starting point is 00:07:49 oh, you just send me the paperwork. But I'm driving at the time with my son in the car on the freeway. I wasn't from a reach back there, you feel me, look for papers, you feel me, why I stop and go traffic in the bay right now, you feel me? So I was like, all right, when I stopped, I never sent that nigga of paperwork. The next thing I know, I pull up to the crest light, probably like a week later or something like that. And I get pulled over.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They're talking about I got a warrant out from my arrest. He put a warrant out from my arrest because he ain't believed me that they gave me. I turned a sentence. I had the paperwork in there. thing. I show the police officers when they pulled me over. I'm like, I don't warn out for my arrest. I got the paperwork right there. Like, you feel me? I'm on alternative sentencing.
Starting point is 00:08:29 They're like, let me see it. I show them that shit. I act like they ain't even, you feel like, that shit ain't even, you feel me? Like, that shit ain't mean nothing. It just took a nigga straight to jail. It was crazy as when I went to jail, the same judge that granting me alternative sentencing is the nigga that, you feel
Starting point is 00:08:44 me, he revoked my probation. You feel me? He basically revoked the alternative sentence and shit. So you feel, me, nigger had to do it's time for a what the system really fucked up, though. It's a fucked up situation. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Wow, that's crazy. That seems like such a random series of events so that it shouldn't have happened. It was some bullshit for show, but it was whatever. Maybe a need, you, fam, at the end of the day, that shit really a blessing in disguise, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:09:12 You think? It's a blessing in disguise for so. I had some time to just sit down, think about life, you feel me? nigga needed that at the end of the day right because you've been living a pretty crazy lifestyle since you were young having success pretty early on and then just dealing with it and trying to keep it going and constantly trying to put new music out and tour and meet other artists do all the things involved with being a rapper and then all of a sudden you just have this thing that just completely freezes your life and has you just unable to work on anything yeah mom's yeah at the end of the day you feel me nigga needed something that just sit a nigga it down, you feel me, revalue his life,
Starting point is 00:09:50 you feel me, type shit, get my life back together, type shit. When you in there, you don't think of it like that, but what's you reaching, like, the end of your shit, you start being kind of thankful for that shit. Well, I ain't gonna say everybody do, but I did for so, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:06 I couldn't keep beating myself up, mad about this shit, you feel me, I had to embrace it. It is what it is. At the end of the day, this niggas in this bitch doing life, you feel me? This niggis is fighting sentences and just trying to get the L-tugging off their they sent this. You know, You feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:19 So doing my little bit of months, you feel me? I had to look at that shit like a blessing, you feel me? Like really just a timeout type shit, you feel me? I wouldn't even say I went to jail. I just was on timeout. Rehab, you feel me? Getting in there, being able to rebuild my sober mind and shit, you feel me, getting healthy and shit, doing pushups, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:10:39 All type of shit. Reading books, getting my knowledge up and shit, you feel me? Was the food week? A nap of the fool was cool. The Solano, the full. was weak as I ain't gonna lie if you ain't got no commissary in Solano
Starting point is 00:10:52 it's ugly. Really? It's ugly. Ugh. Nasty is one of the worst parts about it. Yeah, everything tastes like water in Solano. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Everything. It's just sick. Sounds terrible. But yeah, I mean, I feel like that sit down definitely could be useful for certain people, but like, let's be real,
Starting point is 00:11:10 we all know people who are basically like existing day-to-day in crash-out mode. Like, we see people in the rap media all the time or like either committing crimes or just getting into it with people and you're just like damn you really don't give a fuck if you get locked up huh yeah where i was like i never really got that much of that impression from you you seem like you always been like a cool kid who's like just focused on the money focused on the business side of things yeah so it's like you're
Starting point is 00:11:35 you probably didn't need to sit down as much as a lot of people that we know oh yeah for so for so at the end of the day you feel me i had my own ways you feel me i have my own ways you're getting into the disguised, though, for sure. Your own type of shit. So you said you stopped smoking, though, like, completely. It wasn't, there was no drugs available in there? I mean, hell yeah, you need drugs available in area jail for sure. You could have been a shirm head or a heroin addict if you wanted to in there?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Anything I wanted to be for real, but I wouldn't fucking none of that shit for real. Right. Like, niggas really be surprised that I don't do none of that shit. They're like, D'boy, you don't fuck with it? You don't want to take it here? I'm like, I don't fuck with it like that. I smoke weed, you feel? Right.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'll pop a perk. here and there, you feel me, with none of that. No, nothing. I was just cool. It's just a sober state of mind for real. Yeah. So you got out and you're less interested in smoking weed now
Starting point is 00:12:27 after taking a 10-month break? I'm cool. I ain't going to lie. I hit the weed, like once or twice. Like, I remember I hit the blunt. Like, not too long ago, like two, three times. And I was loaded. I ain't going to lie, like,
Starting point is 00:12:40 like my first time hitting the weed type shit. Like, I ain't like the feeling. You feel? I don't even want to be this hard. I'm cool. Like, I'm on my sober shit for real. Right. Like, I don't even know how I got to the point to getting as high as I was.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I'm smoking like 10, 15 blunts a day, you feel me? I can't hit the blunt twice right now, you feel me? Right. I'm cool. And the way I've been thinking lately on my sober state of mind, you feel me? I'd rather just keep it like this, for real. A nigga, way sharper and shit, you feel me? Yeah, I mean, I think the way I look at somebody who smokes 15 blunts a day
Starting point is 00:13:13 is, like, very different than how I think of the average weed smears. You know, like, I know people like, like DJ Vlad is my man. He says he smokes weed. It seems to me like he smokes weed like at night. Like he might smoke like a joint or hit the bong or whatever. I don't know exactly what he's doing. But he does something like that before he goes to bed when he's probably sitting on the couch watching TV after he's been working all day.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And like, I don't know. Like there's something with me where like when I'm doing interviews and shit, I just really like getting high during interviews. Just kind of like takes the edge off, makes me feel a little bit more creative. Like I could just relax a little bit more But like definitely I've gone through Stages in my life though Where every day you were just waking up and rolling
Starting point is 00:13:53 Blunts all day and just like especially when you're passing them around the van Riding BMX back in the day and shit That shit just it's a lot Like it's hard to be productive when you're smoking that much like But you get used to it as a rapper because so much of your day to day is like Kind of like chilling you know You don't really have to be on point like the way a fucking lawyer probably has to be Oh my mom's yeah that's how
Starting point is 00:14:15 was though like I used to smoke just to calm my nerves you feel me like I don't know what it was like just being sober like I don't know I used to always be mad and shit that's why I used to smoke so much you feel me just calm my nerves keep my nerves calm but shit my nerves calm right now you feel me no need that shit so you feel me ain't no need to backtrack realistically I'm gonna probably end up smoking sometime you feel me sometime soon for sure but the way I'm moving right now the way I'm thinking right now I'm cool off it for right now I ain't gonna lie I'm gonna try to stay sober as much as I could for real. Yeah, it's nice to, like, prove to yourself that you don't need it.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I took a month and a half off of smoking actual weed with tobacco, but I was hitting the weed pen during that, but I still felt like that was a big victory for me. Like, okay, I don't have to do this shit. Yeah, for so. Yeah, it was like at least a little bit of a confidence builder that I wasn't completely addicted. But I actually, I don't know, I really can't imagine not consuming any kind of cannabis. Because I always have to at least go back to the weed pen.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Otherwise, I just feel like I'm never going to go to sleep. Yeah, for sure. That's how I feel. It was a hard time sleeping in there for a minute. But shit, once I, like my first month, I was cool. I ain't know how I got used to it. That shit was already out my system for real. You're in there chilling.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Definitely. So, okay, when I was talking about, like, feeling like the game could, like, leave you behind, are you, like, while you're locked up, are you paying attention to everything that's going on in the music game? as much as possible. You didn't have a phone in there? No, I ain't had no phone. Yeah, I was paying attention as much as possible for show.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I'm calling things like, yo, what's going on out there? You feel me? Who's going crazy? You feel me? All that type of shit. So I was kind of updated. Not all the way as much as I could have been if it finds out, but I was fake updated for sure.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, because I mean, well, you tell me, like, I feel like you're in kind of an interesting position where you've had big records. Like, you've had songs that actually, like, really did numbers and made a significant and changing your career, but you're also, like, pretty close to the whole street rap world,
Starting point is 00:16:18 and it's like, you can pay as much attention as you want to all that shit, but, like, ultimately, who's beefing with who and who's making songs about each other doesn't really, like, contribute to, like, you making big records. Like, those are completely separate things.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Like, where's your head at in terms of that? See, I'm really just awesome. Nigger really just trying to go crazy, for real. Like, really just trying to do me. me for real. I ain't gonna lie. You're just trying to do me for real. Go crazy, stay in the studio. I don't know what type of record, you feel
Starting point is 00:16:50 me. However it come out, naturally, that's how it's going to come out for real. My man's a nigggy just going to stay consistent. You feel me? It's going to be a whole lot of different shit for real. So you just try not to overthink it, or do you feel like you making a record that is just about whatever the fuck you're thinking about at the time is going to be the one that
Starting point is 00:17:06 actually breaks through and does numbers? Because it's not like your big records have been songs that really sounded like you were trying to make a hit. Yeah, all my shit really just natural. Like, however it come out, like, I don't go in the studio. Like, I'm going to make a song talking about this. You feel me? Like, I might hear a beat, and it might give me this type of vibe, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:17:23 And I'm going to come on with that type of vibe, you feel me. But I don't plan my shit out like that. I ain't going to lie. I just get in. However the beat made me feel, that's how I'm going to spit that shit, you for me. For sure. It's interesting because you were just, like, we're calling Phoenix Flex,
Starting point is 00:17:36 and before we got on here, or he was calling you. And I feel like with Shoreline and, like, everything that I kind of seen them go through in their career. Like you guys with SOBRB were kind of like a very similar thing going on at the same time where like it was like a youth movement group that was very, very exciting to the kids. But then it didn't really last that long. And then at a certain point,
Starting point is 00:17:59 you got to like pick up the pieces and keep your career going and try to like figure out how am I going to continue to be successful even as this big thing that had its own built in fan base kind of goes away. yeah for so and phoenix is kind of like in the same position they actually just got it together and got back together but uh like i don't know how much do you think about that because it's like you you have this like crazy movement that you were a part of and then now you're it's like that shit is kind of like
Starting point is 00:18:28 it's only like a few years ago that it sort of ended but it still like feels like we're in a totally different generation now man you feel me at the end of the day that shit helping nigga become a man the nigger is today you feel me i learned a lot about life you feel me fucking around that shit that shit is really a big stepping steward you feel me get where I need to be type shit
Starting point is 00:18:47 you feel me that's the way I look at it like you never know like shit later down the line niggas might you feel me end up fucking with it but I don't know you never know I can't really speak on too much but you never know for real like I don't know
Starting point is 00:19:02 all I know is that nigga really I'm really just focusing on myself you feel me like consistency is key and quality over quantity you feel me Yeah, I mean, like, are you in a position where you feel like you want to prove that you can do it and that you can have a real successful career without having to go back to that? Like, would reforming the group feel like a step backwards for you?
Starting point is 00:19:26 Like, it's just not that that's not what you want to do. You want to prove that you can do this shit on your own? A step backwards. I mean, yeah, I could do this. I could do this on my own for a show. Don't get me wrong. like the group shit that shit you feel
Starting point is 00:19:43 me that shit changed niggins lives for sure like that shit was big for sure but at the end of the day I felt like I could hold my own I can hold my own weight I really feel like everybody could hold their own weight for real like you feel me
Starting point is 00:19:57 me nigga stay consistent going crazy you feel me I ain't just speaking for myself I asked enough room for everybody to go crazy in this motherfuck like fucking with each other or not you feel me you just got to stay consistent
Starting point is 00:20:08 quality of a quantity you feel me everybody is just speaking of it being good with everybody will be good with their own career type shit you feel but do you feel like a crazy amount of pressure as a artist or does it feel like this shit just happens naturally from your perspective because even to have been around and like be successful in the public eye for like six seven years or however long it's been for you I mean that is like really impressive and it takes a shit little work and it's not like it just does itself and there's new artists
Starting point is 00:20:37 every day that are threatening to basically like take your fans I mean, shit, the most pressure I feel is the pressure I put on myself, you feel me? Like, outside world can't put no pressure on me, you feel me, all the pressure that's on me is the pressure I put on myself, like, oh, you gotta go harder, you feel me, you feel, you with you a woo, like,
Starting point is 00:20:54 you gotta stay in the studio, you gotta, you feel, me, get your feature game up, you feel me, nigga, stay in the public eye, you feel me, all that type of shit. So all the pressure that I feel is really coming from myself for real, like, I don't really pay attention what the internet talking about, really.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I ain't gonna lie. Hmm. Interesting. Are you really, like, not online that much? I'd be online, but, like, I don't be, like, paying attention to, like, all the messy shit, like, you feel me? If I follow, you see me? I watch a story or something, you feel me, just scrolling down my timeline,
Starting point is 00:21:25 but I ain't going out the way, though, you feel me, check on no messy shit, you, feel me? Like, little shit like that, but, no, I really ain't online that much for real, like, I ain't really no internet type of nigga, like. If you see a YouTube video about, you with 50,000 views, or you click and play? Sometimes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Sometimes I don't, though, for real. Because sometimes the title will be just something that you already know exactly what they're going to say. So you're like, whatever. What the fuck they're talking about? You feel like me? I go to it. But sometimes I really don't.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I ain't going to lie. Yeah, because I feel like once you watch one of the SOB-R-B breakup videos, you've pretty much seen them all. They're not going to, like, there's not going to be a new one today that has, like, way different information. Damn, my miss. Right. But, okay, you mentioned the feature thing.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I wanted to ask you about a couple of these dudes. How did you meet Money Sign Suede? Shit, how did I meet Money Sign Suede? We was talking in the DM for show, just on something like, yo, gang, we got work. And one time I was in L.A., I gave my number. I'm in L.A. He didn't there called me. He like, oh, what's the deal? Pull up on me. I'm at the studio. I pull up on him.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He pulled the song up. that motherfucker was going crazy I'm like oh it's going to stupid I ain't gonna lie I get up on a song I don't remember if we shot it the next day or I ain't a lot of thing we did
Starting point is 00:22:48 shoot it like the next day or something yeah we recorded that shit and we shot it the next day for real that my fucking ended up going up RP to him too yeah rest of my knee but that was all just like personal relationship shit
Starting point is 00:23:01 it wasn't like any management type of shit putting songs together Yeah, that was just me and bro. Have you ever had that? Like, where the label or the management's, like, stepping in and saying, like, this artist is hard. We got a link with him.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I think it was 300. It's 300 out here? Not 300. Not 300. That's a label, but I think it's in New York, right? Yeah, it's a label out here. I forgot what label it is, though. It's somewhere in Hollywood when they called us to work with young boy and shit.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You feel me? That's, like, the only one for real. Oh, shit. I forgot what label it is, though. Shout out to them. No, but yeah, that's the only time, like, they really stepped in and, like, this and some shit like that. You were in the studio with Youngboy?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah. How was that? That was cool. You know, he's a little over the top? He's not over the top. He's not over the top. He's really cool for real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I don't know. That's like a lot of big personalities in a room, though. I feel like he's got such a big personality that it could be awkward. Hey, I'm going to put it like this. Like, how he act on the internet, all this and that. He really liked that. Yeah, that's real. He has a funny.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I fuck a young boy, though. He goes crazy. But do you think that that, like, was that a good look from your perspective? Or, like, would you prefer to mostly just work with artists that you have real connections with? Really have real connections with by the end of the day. This shit business, you feel me? If it's a good business move and you could get to it before I came, you feel me? I'm all for it.
Starting point is 00:24:31 You know what I'm not. So how did you meet the skill of baby? skill of baby was crazy as like right when i first started rapping like i had heard a song by skill baby he used to go by skills that muck was called like i think it was called like crazy or something like that i had dmd i'm like gang we got to work and he like what do you say something like uh he like yep tapping on my manager or something like that i'm like all right it's good but i'm a young nigga like you feel me like I ain't got my own
Starting point is 00:25:02 manager no none of that so I went for I ain't called on I ain't hit his manager you feel me we just cat rapping he's just doing us you feel me and I DM'd be like it's probably like two years ago or something
Starting point is 00:25:15 I'm like gang we got to get it in and we end up getting the song in but the song we recorded I couldn't get the session to this little studio in Texas they weren't trying to send me my session you feel me about the end of the day it's my fault though
Starting point is 00:25:29 because you feel me I wasn't walking around with my hard job, you feel me. So I probably hit them like a year later talking about let me get my session. That shit probably gone, type of shit, you feel me? So I had made a song in the studio. I was working with Devo, we got some shit
Starting point is 00:25:44 going on. I hit him again. I'm like, yeah, I got one for us. He like sending. I sent it to him. He didn't have got on it like that. Same day, if not the next day, you feel me? Got back to a nigga quick, but me and Skiller, we've been supposed to get it in for years, for real.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Mom, that shit ended up coming about, though. We both bigger than what we was. So, you feel, you feel, me, worked out better than what it would have worked out at back in the day anyway. For sure. And he already knew, and you already knew that you were about to be locked up when you did that song because he said something about it. Yeah, I told him, I'm going to be, I'm going to pop.
Starting point is 00:26:18 That's when I was supposed to turn myself in. But after we made that song, I ended up going to court. And they said, I could do I turn it a sentencing. So I wasn't supposed to turn myself in. That's the thing I know. I pull up to the crest, you feel? Warren for my arrest. So instead of turning myself in,
Starting point is 00:26:34 I got forced to go in that bitch. You feel me? Mm. You ain't had no choice. Damn. But that was the ending to that saga? Yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's crazy. Okay. So the other feature that came to mind that I wanted to mention is that you guys are like some of the very few artists in rap at this point in terms of like underground or like, you know, more ground-level rappers who have actually had the honor of working with Kendrick, which is kind of crazy when you think about
Starting point is 00:27:06 how wild the last couple months of the story with him has been. Were you guys actually in the studio together at that time? Yeah. How much time do you guys actually spend around each other? It's probably like three hours or something like that.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Nothing major. What was your impression of them? I ain't gonna lie. Regular real niggie for real, you feel? Like, you ain't on no extra superstar-ass shit, you feel me, your regular real nigga, like, comment collector, like, you feel me, how a street nigga post would be, for real. And, like, was he recording in front of you,
Starting point is 00:27:42 or were you recording your parts when you went in? We was recording. Our parts, he had, the part he had was the little intro part on it at first. The, I'm gonna call a paramedic in these things, that part, you feel me? Uh-huh. And then we got on that bitch.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And then he was fucking with it for real. I remember coming out the store and I'm asking. I'm like, you fuck with it. Like it's cold. He looked at me like, you feel me like a nigga here? Yeah, I'll f*** with it type of shit. You feel me? That's Kendrick, though.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I ain't believing. I'm thinking he's like, nah, he's probably. Because you don't put anything out. It's like, you know he probably records like 10 songs for every one song you hear from him, if that. So it's like he's saying he's cool with it, but you're also thinking like, I really have no idea if I should believe this or not. We always thinking like, yeah, we just recorded with Kenji
Starting point is 00:28:28 but at the end of the day, you feel me it's black panther soundtrack this shit probably even gonna make the cut you feel me right and that shit came out I'm in the studio everybody calling me they like nigga you on the song with Kendrick nigga you nigg he's going crazy right now I'm like hell nah I go to the soundtrack I listen
Starting point is 00:28:43 to it I'm like oh we're going crazy you feel me I ain't I ain't expected to go crazy as much as it did though but that my fucking going crazy like that my fucking like two times platinum off just the audio you feel me right no video it's just like so few artists who have who have done songs with him throughout his career.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Most of them are either huge artists or like his homies that he kind of came in with. You know, Mama, shots out to big breath, too. He ain't had to give us that L.E. You feel him? He could work with anybody he wants to. Yeah, that's legendary. But so when you see how this whole Drake and Kendrick saga has unfolded, what's your perspective on it?
Starting point is 00:29:21 You paying attention? You're fully locked in? I ain't fully locked in for real, but I ain't going to lie. Kendri just dropped that. Not like us. my fucking crazy. Like, he running laps around, niggas right now.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That ended up being the death blow. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. He's but a lead, Kendrick alone. He ain't nothing to play with. He'd come out to cloud. He could come out of shell whenever the fuck he wants to and drop a bangor.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like, he wanted him artists. He ain't got to drop for three, four, five years. When he dropped, going up. Nah, yeah. Legendary. He ain't got a, you feel me? Sit back and count his money for real. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:53 But you feel him? You get him in that mold. It's going to be ugly for you. You need that man alone. Yeah. Oh, Mama's. It's crazy. You think Drake's done for or what?
Starting point is 00:30:04 I don't know. I really don't know. For real. But the way this shit is, nope. Not really. I don't think so. The way this shit go, like, you feel me? You know how that shit is?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Like, niggas is snitching and it's making them bigger than what they was before. You feel? The paperwork came out. Like, I don't know. We're living in a crazy world right now. The thing that stands out to me is that if Drake, like, Drake just needs.
Starting point is 00:30:30 to make sure that whatever he drops next has got to be the shit. No, I got to be the shit for something. Like, he can't afford any, like, albums where none of the songs really connect. Like, he got to come back and fully remind the people why he is the fucking hitmaker that we always known him as being, you know? Yeah, the pressure on him for so. Yeah. Pressure on him for sure. Because whatever his next shit is, it's got to outshine this fucking battle in some way.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And that's not going to be easy. Yeah, it's not going to be easy. after that not like us. Yeah, but I mean, I heard rumors that he's like supposed to be dropping more music soon, that he's not going to like just let this shit go, which is weird because I almost feel like that is exactly what he should do. It's just kind of take a couple months off and then come back. Nah, for so.
Starting point is 00:31:15 The way this shit is, you feel me, the world move fast. My fuck is a fake way. Forget about it for real. I don't know. Ain't know, there ain't no telling though. Yeah, we'll see. What do you think of John Morant, since you did the John Morant flow?
Starting point is 00:31:29 What made that his flow? That niggas just reckless. So I just came with a reckless-ass-fellow talk of crazy. It's John Moran flow. You buy his gangsterism? It seems authentic, or does it seem like somebody
Starting point is 00:31:46 who sits around the house watching young boy videos? I mean, that shit down there are authentic, for real. Like, he's a young nigga. Like, you feel me? I don't know his background. I ain't going to say young.
Starting point is 00:31:59 street, niggie, you feel me, but it's some authenticity up in that bitch for show, you feel me? I don't think he, no square bear, none of that shit, you feel me, like, at the end of the day, yeah, you in the NBA, you don't got to do this and that, but you, you feel me? Once it's in you, it's in you, you feel me? Like, you're just be
Starting point is 00:32:15 judging you because he's in the NBA time, but, oh, yeah, he don't need to be doing this, he'd be doing that, woo, but at the end of the day, nigga, he's younger than me, you feel me? Like, if it's in you, it's in you, you, you feel me? But, okay, I would feel totally differently if the story was like, oh, he's He's in the NBA, but he's still rolling around with his gun on him.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I understand. Like maybe you, even though you're in the NBA, maybe you only got enough money for security. And obviously there's times where you just can't really get security. You just got to go bounce out. But like to be in the club on Instagram live with the gun when you're in the NBA, and then to do it again once you've made major headlines, that to me is the thing that I'm just like, yo, you get something really wrong with you, bro, because you got to protect the back.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, just regular young niggas shit, you feel? me. He's regular young. You can relate to it. He young and turned, you've been. You've been outside with the blick too many times when you weren't supposed to after you blew up? I don't play with no blicks.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Yeah. I don't know, man. Sometimes it takes a while to learn these lessons. But, okay, if that was your homie, like if he was part of your entourage, I would assume that you would advise him to stop moving around so reckless, as well as advertising it on social media. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 00:33:33 So I for so tell him, like, you gotta cut it out again. Like, you're going crazy right now. Like you said, you got to protect the bag. You feel me? Like, you got all this money. You feel me, you could buy hell of security guards. If you feel like, that's what you need, you feel me? But shit, like I said, it's probably any.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He can't help it. You feel me? Like, sometimes you gotta bump your head with this shit too, though. You feel me? Like, that's the best, the best teacher in life is a loss, you feel me? The way I look at it, like, sometimes
Starting point is 00:34:05 like when the motherfuck are telling you right from wrong, that shit could, you might not mean for it to go through one ear out the other, but sometimes that's what it just naturally do, you feel am. You got to go through your own life experiences. I feel like he ain't going to do no shit like that no more. Yeah, I hope not.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I mean, we aren't heard about him in a minute, so I guess that's a good sign. But, yeah, I mean, like, the thing that he might not necessarily understand in his mind is that gangsters and rappers make money pretty slow compared to NBA players. You got to respect that because all these rappers and especially all these gangsters wish that they could be making the kind of money that you're making. So all the gangsters wish they could be in the NBA and it seemed like a lot of NBA
Starting point is 00:34:48 niggas wish they was rappers, you know? Definitely. Because think about, like you probably couldn't do the thing that they do, which is wake up and practice hours and hours and hours. day to be elite at this thing. They look at your lifestyle and they're like, I could chill and stay in the studio for six hours and post up with girls and wear chains
Starting point is 00:35:09 and do photoshoots and shit like that. Like that probably sounds pretty good to them when they're working their ass off. At the end of the day, like, we doing this shit, but niggas still working though. Like, you feel me? Y'all in the gym, we in the studio all day. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like, it might be, niggas might have hell of females in the studio, niggas smoking weed. niggas wearing icy you shit you feel me but at the same time niggas is putting in work like niggas having 12 hour studio sessions and shit you feel me they do drugs they get kicked out of the league if you do drugs everybody thinks it's awesome
Starting point is 00:35:40 it's fucked up it's fucked up but it's true um okay so uh young tio did this interview that went kind of like mini viral a couple weeks ago right where he basically like revealed
Starting point is 00:35:55 possibly for the first time some details about how the whole breakup went down that wasn't previously out there. Is that stuff that you never previously thought would come to light? It's kind of impressive that you guys kept under the raps for a long time. Hey, you feel me? Like, I ain't gonna lie like. Brough, I ain't gonna lie like,
Starting point is 00:36:22 don't believe everything you hear up on this internet shit for real. You feel me? Like, I really don't even got much to say to that shit for real, like, ain't really nothing much to speak on, like, they ain't trying to incriminate nobody, you feel me, but a lot of shit, that's why, like, what happened in the streets that, a lot of that shit's supposed to stay in the streets,
Starting point is 00:36:44 you feel in me, like, ain't got to let, like, what could I say about that shit? Let me see, like, I don't know, like, I feel like, like, there's a real street, nigga, like, some shit you don't speak on, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Like, shit like that, you don't speak on. going to gang like that shit like some inner family shit you feel me like keep that shit within the family that shit like that shit not true a lot of that shit ain't true but you feel me I ain't gonna speak too much on me
Starting point is 00:37:15 well the story I heard is that like your little brother killed his cousin what nah that's not how it went down they told me that these your little brother thieves killed his cousin Flex City
Starting point is 00:37:30 is that inaccurate? Is that an accurate? He ain't said that in the interview. No, he didn't say that. That's what somebody told me. No, no, no, no. No. Wait, was it something like that where it ended up actually being like, it looked like a shootout, but then it ended up being that the dude got hit by somebody on his own side?
Starting point is 00:37:46 That's what they were saying? Hey, I really don't know what happened to Flex City, you feel me? RP that man, for real. I think you feel me? T.O. and them, I think they know what happened to that nigga for real, but that shit ain't happened for sure. Okay. Oh, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Interesting. but do you think there's just in general that shit is just shit that shouldn't be discussed online yeah for so does that set back the likelihood of y'all reuniting at a certain point because that makes me feel like oh y'all definitely are not on the same page if somebody else is bringing that shit to the table and you don't even like the fact that it's being discussed at all and yeah at the end of the day we mean like it feels some type of way about something you feel me we could we could talk that out ourself you feel me like everything not meant to go run to the
Starting point is 00:38:34 internet and talk about you feel me mm-hmm way out of you feel me you see me I don't I don't speak on none of that shit you feel me mm-hmm that shit like some inner circle shit you feel me other than that like you're not gonna catch me on no interviews talking about this and that a little bit happening in the streets you feel me like all right me personally I ain't how I was raised you you know, I respect it for sure. So do you ever, do you ever, like, use that technique in general to get people to listen to the music and just like talking about the street shit still? Or is that kind of like a thing in the past? Because I feel like when I listen to your shit, it feels like you kind of go for like a broader appeal at this point.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Hey, yeah, like, I might say something in a song, but if you know, you know, if you don't, you don't, you feel me? motherfucker dressed me on something like on some internet shit what was this or what? You know, I might play dumb, you feel me? You might know what I'm talking about but I'm still gonna play dumb, you feel me? Like a lot of shit incriminating
Starting point is 00:39:37 you feel me, but I don't really incriminate myself, my rap's no, none of that, you feel me? I'm just a rapper. Well, that is like a difference between a lot of the street rappers and then like these big rappers is you kind of realize like, holy shit, Drake's been taking shots at a bunch of different people for
Starting point is 00:39:53 years in his music with all these lines that don't really that didn't really make sense until recently and i really respect that like the idea of being able to diss somebody in a song and have them know exactly what i'm saying and have the fans not necessarily pick up on it that's how you post a move for real but it feels like it's it's tough to like put together lyrics that'll actually like have that effect yeah my miss like if you were beefing with somebody that you know really well, you could definitely say things that would trigger them that the fans wouldn't know. But in order for the fan...
Starting point is 00:40:26 You have to have a very dedicated fan base for them to even care enough to pick that shit apart. Yeah, for sure. For some fans, they be on that, you feel me? They catch every little thing, you feel me? But so the regular music air that ain't updated about everything that been going on, they're going look right over, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:40:43 But that's kind of like the fun of it. You're fucking around out in public. Everybody can see it, but most people don't on what they're looking at. Yeah, for sure. Mm. Do you feel like it's been good or bad overall for the sort of like Northern California
Starting point is 00:41:00 music scene to have so much more media and so many people making blogs and doing all this YouTube shit? Is it ultimately bad for the music scene or do you think it's a good thing? I feel like like any type of media in Northern California really good for real. You feel me? Like sometimes even bad publicity is good publicity. at the end of the day. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:41:23 Like, that shit helped. For real, I ain't gonna lie. Like, all that content shit, it's a content game nowadays. You feel me? Muff-fielers want to see all that shit. You feel me? All that shit matter for real.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Yeah, definitely. But it's kind of like the question of how much of yourself you want to give as the artists, you know? Yeah, my miss. Because there's a lot of, like, goofy-ass shit you could do content-wise that might not be good for you in the long run. Yeah, for sure. I know this YouTuber, uh, Buba 100x from the Bronx.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And he will do YouTube videos where... Oh, that's the young nigga. Yeah, yeah. He's cool. Shout out to him. But, like, it strikes me as kind of insane what he does in a lot of his thumbnails where it'll be him and some other drill rapper. And then in the thumbnail, he'll Photoshop their ops into the thumbnail. And it'll say, like, playing this dude's music in front of this other dude.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Like, that's the thumbnail. From an L.A. perspective, most of the game members I know who rap and shit, I don't think they would be on board for that. That feels a little crazy to me. But like a lot of these Bronx drill kids and shit are fucking young as fuck. They grew up on the internet. So that shit doesn't seem that crazy to them.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I think from an L.A. or Chicago perspective, that shit seems crazy. Like, hell no, I don't want you Photoshopping this guy who fucking shot my brother in the thumbnail with me. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I don't know. Younger generation, they're just different. You feel me? On a different type of time?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Mom's, I really don't even know what to say about that I guess that's just new-age young niggas, that's what they're on. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you have to crazy content games. If he gets you in a video and then you, you feel me, you allow him to do that shit. You obviously cool with it. You, you feel me? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Content game, I guess. That is part of the thing that shocks me about that is just the fact that he's a young bike dude really from that area. So it's like, to me, he needs to be careful. But I guess he's, like, created a persona for himself where they see, him more like a comedian or some shit so they don't really consider him to be part of that. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Which is like that's a tricky position to being. Like people always say that about me. You're a white dude. You're older. So you can like have these crazy conversations with rappers that are in the streets and it doesn't like come back to you or whatever. But it's just like a little different with him because he's like the same age as them. He's from where they're from. But you know, he's making it work.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah, I feel like he'll mean no harm. You feel me? You feel like to the young eye, to the young audience. That shit probably hell of funny to him, you feel me? That's how he running it up. And I feel like, niggas probably just respect that shit. You feel me? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:57 They probably just look over that shit. Like, this ain't this serious, you feel me? Let's create this little content with, bro, you feel me? Go up one time and that's that. You feel me? Yeah. It just makes me wonder, like, damn, what are the fucking kids going to be like down the road a little bit?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Worse? They're going to keep getting weirder and weirder and more internet savvy and more just doing crazy shit that we could have never dreamed of. Oh, mom's the younger they get, the crazier they get, for real. Yeah, that's a fact. Generation after generation, get crazier and crazier for sure. That's your impression of the streets in Vallejo or Northern California in general or whatever. Does it just seem like the kids are just fucked way beyond what you were like or what your friends were like when you were young?
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, for real. I ain't going to lie, that shit gets worse and worse. They start off younger and younger nowadays, you feel me? I ain't on that. I ain't going to lie. Shout out to the youth. Shout out to the Kia boys. For so.
Starting point is 00:44:50 That's something that we couldn't have really seen happening when we were younger. They put the whole world on, though. Kia boys. Yo, there's a Channel 5 documentary that they did about the Kia Boys in Connecticut. And it's like a young white kid and his nickname is Swervo, which is so funny to just take G Herbo's nickname and just act like that's your name. But like in that video, bro, he is just doing his thing. It's like the way that they're talking about how they're going to go steal these Kiyahs and get 100 bucks.
Starting point is 00:45:20 and then they're going to go like and buy Amiris or buy some purple jeans with it or whatever the fuck they're talking about. It's just like, holy fuck. Like these kids are like literally brainwashed from the internet. Like they've seen these videos about St. Louis in the Bay and shit like that
Starting point is 00:45:34 with all the bipping and stealing cars. And they just like inherited these personalities. So now you've got some random town in Connecticut that is just 100% tons of kids on the shit. You know, but that's where they're from Connecticut. Yeah. It's like a million fucking miles away from where the whole car.
Starting point is 00:45:50 stealing culture was like taking over the world and they're just completely like nobody had to like move out there and teach them their ways they just saw it on the youtube and they were like oh shit is sick and they're stealing cars and then making youtube videos so the people who get their cars stolen then have this account just like posting videos of them joyrider in their car and they're like what the fuck dude yeah mom's shout out them boys though and they put a lot of niggas on with that free game for Yeah, and now they're suing Kia because they made it so easy to steal their cars. That they're saying that Kia is kind of responsible for this crazy-ass crime wave. Like, you know, I don't know exactly like how they're going to hold them accountable,
Starting point is 00:46:28 but plenty of people stealing those cars and then going and murdering people in them and shit like that. It's crazy. Yeah, if you know about them Kia boys, boy, y'all niggas, better not be out there coping no kids. And that motherfucker get took in three, five seconds. No, kept. It's just serious. For sure. But, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:47 What else do you have going on in your life, like, in terms of... I remember last time we were talking about crypto. Mm-hmm. And I haven't checked, but I feel like some of the crypto coins that you were mentioning probably did not end up doing that well. What's crazy is I had a phone and I had a crypto password to log in my shit. I forgot the passwords. I don't even know my shit, you feel? For real.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I don't even know my password to that shit. I really just chalk that to the game. I ain't been on my stock shit for real. lie. Right. I forget exactly what coin it is, but I feel like the one that we were talking about. Sheba coin. I feel like that went down by like 99%. Probably
Starting point is 00:47:25 Sheba and I was fucking Ethereum. That's still doing pretty good. I don't even remember what the fuck else I was doing. I put a couple of bands in that shit for sure, though. That shit probably is down, but at the end of the day, I can't even log back into that shit. It's over with it for real. Yeah, there was a dude the other day who tried to
Starting point is 00:47:43 send $70 million worth of Bitcoin. and he entered the address wrong of who he was sending it to. And so it's gone. That's fucked up. Forever. That's fucked up. Insane, right?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Damn, mama's got to keep them passwords, right? Like, my grandpa, he used to always have, like, he used to have a little office and, like, folders full of passwords and shit, you feel me? Now I get older, I see, like, that shit serious. Like, we store everything in our phone, but you never know. Like, you might forget the password to your phone one day.
Starting point is 00:48:14 You feel? me like the old school the old school method is always coming handy you feel me yeah get you a folder nigger write some shit down just in case you forget this shit somewhere else you feel yeah but I mean I have all that shit for my crypto shit written down hey I didn't look at that shit in years I should probably double check make sure it's still there yeah for so I ain't seen my shit since man I don't even know yeah probably like 22 for real definitely probably 21 So in terms of like where you're at in your career, do you feel like you're...
Starting point is 00:48:51 Wait, are you still independent or are you signed? Yeah, independent. Do you think you need a label? Are you trying to stick it out and do this independent? I mean, the label of help for a show, you feel, me? The right business being made, you feel me? I'm all ears, but other than that, you feel me, if I'm like what I'm hearing, I'm just keep, you feel, with the independent shit.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And you got no complaints? The money's solid being the artist at your level? I ain't got no complaints. No complaints. Is it Like you're totally good off just streaming Nothing to worry about I pay the bills off that motherfucker
Starting point is 00:49:24 I go shopping I get what I want You feel me And then features and shows And all that other shit That's all just extra on top Oh, mamas That's what's up Oh, mamas
Starting point is 00:49:35 That's dope Independent way where it's at for real But you feel me Nigger wanna go global You feel me ain't nothing wrong With on no label I ain't nothing wrong with it. Yeah, it is crazy because I do feel like you have the kind of flow
Starting point is 00:49:48 that really could kind of like hit like a mainstream audience. But at the same time, it's like in order to sign to a label, you've got to really like trust them to just be able to help you navigate your career. And that's a shitload of trust. And you know how it is with labels? They swap, you're going to employees out and people leave and artists get left high and dry all the fucking time. Now, for so, that's the biggest part.
Starting point is 00:50:11 That's the scariest thing about label. for real, but shit, it's really your world. Like, you feel me? Whatever you feel like, work best for you, you feel me? A lot of niggas can't do the independent shit. They need that label behind them, you feel me? But, shit, I got shit that. I know, niggas that's in labels, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:50:29 And they ain't f***ing with me. You feel me? I'm independent with this shit. I know a lot of niggas that's independent. That niggas ain't with that's in labels, you feel me? But I feel like once you're in a label, you just got to know what you've signed enough for. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:50:41 You got to be ready for that shit. Yeah, definitely. But I feel like that describes so few of the young rappers who are potentially signed into a label because there's just so much that you need to know that you do not know at all when you're first getting into that position as a rapper who's getting a little bit of motion, you know? Yeah, if it's so.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But so solo career is way better than being in a group? Not splitting the money multiple ways. I ain't going to lie. I'm good for real. but, uh, let me say. I don't know. There's pros and cons to that shit for real. It's pros and cons to that shit for real.
Starting point is 00:51:24 What are the pros that it just felt like a movement and maybe like the pros? Kids would just latch on to that shit. The pros, nigger, way more booked and busy when nigg was in the group. You feel me? Like, nigga was barely ever at home type shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like, nigga still booked and busy, but like, niggas was always on tour with the group, though. I ain't gonna lie. So really the group, like, kept a nigga more busier though for sure I ain't gonna lie the solo shit cool though
Starting point is 00:51:50 like a nigga going crazy off the streaming shit you feel me nigga still doing shows you feel me still getting booked for clubs you feel me all type of shit but I don't know
Starting point is 00:51:59 I ain't gonna lie I touch more money on some solo shit than I did with the group though for show but if like if we was fucking with each other now like we'll for show be getting more money than what we was back in the day
Starting point is 00:52:11 you feel me right so it's pros and cons to that shit because like Even to take it outside of you guys with Shoreline. When it comes to getting booked on a festival or whatever, I'm pretty sure that they could get more money as Shoreline Mafia than either of them could get on their own.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And that's a group with just two people. I mean, there were two other dudes. I don't know what the fuck happened to that. But, you know, like, so there are, like, and there's just something about a group that, like, people can kind of latch on to more. Like the idea of it, whereas, like, buying into an individual is almost, like, more of a challenge for some percentage of the fans. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Mm. It's like, it's like superheroes, you feel me, you got the Avengers, and then you got the individual movies. Like, Iron Man, you want to watch Iron Man, or you want to watch the Avengers, you feel like, the Avengers is bigger than anybody individual movie, you feel?
Starting point is 00:53:00 I would watch the Avengers before I watch fucking Aquaman. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'd be looking at it like, really? They're making a movie about Aquaman? What the fuck? Like, they're really running out of superheroes. Exactly, so that's how that shit is, for real.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Like, then it's easier for, like, the youth to be like, oh yeah i i think he the best on the i think he the best you feel me then it's always that shit you feel me like all that shit is a big it's a big matter in that shit for show too like all the kids like they could choose who they want to be out the group you feel me all that type of shit but like all right so you have personal differences with the other members of the group that would make it difficult for you guys to really like tour all the time or to record all the time i totally get that and that's probably going to take a while for you to be able to get past that I would guess.
Starting point is 00:53:43 But if you get hit by Coachella tomorrow and they're like, we want you guys on the bill and we got a big ass bag, is it just too much pride and tension built up for you to be like, yeah, we can all link up and do these songs for a night? I'm cool. I really got to stand on business. I'm cool for right now.
Starting point is 00:54:02 You feel me? You never know that shit might could get worked out later down a lot. You feel me? Like, he's not really worried about it. You feel me, them niggies. Like he just ain't did nothing. you feel me so they're not really worried about
Starting point is 00:54:14 niggas at the end of the day you never know like niggas might be able to you feel in me but until shit getting handled cool cool it would be unfair from your perspective because you're doing better than everybody else in the group
Starting point is 00:54:28 nah I don't even look at it like that I don't know how niggas is doing I focus on myself you feel me they all could be doing good my nigga slimmy he booked and busy you feel me that's my backbone so I know what he got going on my niggas stay booked and busy for me show club You been every week type shit, you feel
Starting point is 00:54:44 me? I don't know what other brad got going on, you feel me, I'm pretty sure he's down there, he might be doing good too, you feel me? I just don't pay attention, like, I don't check niggas, grams, you feel me? I just, I might see the interview type shit pop up on my timeline, but I ain't even watching that shit for real, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:55:02 You're just reading, like, what people are saying about it? Uh, well, sometimes, yeah. Sometimes, but I ain't clicked on it yet, you feel me? I don't got the patience to just sit there and just listen to that shit you feel me I feel it so you're working on like an album
Starting point is 00:55:19 or are you just going to keep dropping videos for a while you got like a big project in mind or anything yeah I got a project coming out I don't know what I want to name me yet though but for right now I ain't gonna lie like the attention spending short right now
Starting point is 00:55:33 you feel me I feel like singles is the best way to go right now I'm gonna just drop singles for a minute get them highly anticipated for an album ready to come out. You feel me? I don't want to just come out and just drive straight album.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I think it really on some single shit for show. Are you still like looking for artists? Could you imagine yourself signing somebody or having somebody under you? Oh yeah for sure. Like beyond who you already have? Yeah for so. I got a, uh...
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yeah, it's a couple of niggas I'm looking at for so. Ground put niggas on. You feel me, get niggas in motion. But other than that, I'm really focusing on me first. Like once I do me, get everything right with me, then I could do more for artists, you feel me? Would you sign an artist who was hot but was really talking about crazy street shit?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Or would that be, like, maybe that's not worth dealing with? I mean, shit. I think about this, a decent amount. That's what's popping nowadays. He was talking about crazy street shit, you feel me? Yeah, yeah, I would. Yeah, I mean, I probably would, too, but it would have to be the guy.
Starting point is 00:56:40 You know, it would have to be really, like, I have to really have a lot of faith in order to deal with what would probably come with that. Yeah, you got to be raw for sure. Mm, definitely. All right, anybody want to shout out? Anything we need to look forward to in particular? Oh, shit, no, I'm good. I mean, shit. Shout out all my niggas and freedom thuds, man, R.P.
Starting point is 00:56:59 them fall of soldiers, man. Shout out a little dan. Shout out Papa got bands. Shout out the whole S-O-B, you feel me. Shout out all that YWNs, big tools and threes and 200. And shout out to Kass. Shout out everybody rocking with the boy. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Shout out my family. Baby girl. Shout out my son. You feel me, everybody. Shout out of my son. I've been rocking with a nigga when a nigga was down. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:57:20 Keeping the nigga lit. Keeping the nigga lit. Keeping the nigga name afloat. Why a nigga was in there type shit. You feel me? Oh, my husband. You got to go crazy. You got to ride this momentum.
Starting point is 00:57:31 A lot of people trying to change the Kendrick won the battle narrative to be like the West Coast is back. Yeah. But potentially that could create some momentum for the West. with the flows that he was coming on like that's modern day Cali flow you feel me so that shit
Starting point is 00:57:46 really big for everybody you feel me like niggas not even knowing like they're made like that Cali Flow like mainstream now like it was I ain't gonna say it was mainstream like it's a couple songs out here that I think he's using Cali Flow you can say like kind of
Starting point is 00:58:02 mainstream but Kendry using it that's different how you feel that's going to open a lot of doors for I ain't gonna lie Do you think he was intentionally paying homage to Draco? So, uh, Drakeo? Yeah, that's a lot of people were saying that about a specific part in that song that he was rapping like Draco and maybe wouldn't have,
Starting point is 00:58:22 due to street shit might not have been capable of like really shouting Draco out, but like kind of showed him a little bit of a tribute right there. That was the theory we came up with. Probably, probably. Yeah, for sure. You at the end of the day, niggas is from L.A., you feel me? like you can't be from LA and you're not hip to Draco
Starting point is 00:58:41 you feel me like sometimes you feel me like you listen to that shit so much it might rub off on you you're not even knowing you feel me like it's just natural for sure for sure Drako is a big influence for so not even towards just LA like West Coast period
Starting point is 00:58:56 big influence on the West Coast for sure there's a lot of people who are influenced by Draco and don't even know that they were influenced by Draco because they were influenced by another artist who was influenced by Draco. Yeah, yep, that's how it be. Like, the game moves so fast. You might not, you might not listen to, but the nigga
Starting point is 00:59:13 that you listen to is heavily influenced by him, you feel, me. You might be taking a nigga sauce that's influenced by Draco, you feel him, like, that's just how it is. Fact. World go around. Shout out to the boy. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. Music is fire. You always been a good dude.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So, much respect. Yes, sir. You're going crazy. Yes, sir. The boy. On the game. D-A-space, B-O-I-I-I. Again. That way. Spell it right. No Jumber.
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