No Jumper - Danny Mullen on Catching His First Felony, Adam Banging his Girl & More
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No jumper.
Coolest podcast in the world.
And I decided I had to tap back in with my man, Danny.
I just noticed a fly.
So that might be part of the narrative.
Wait, man, the fly narrative.
In this pod, yeah.
Wait, this isn't Sledge Lords?
I mean, I don't know.
This is Sledge Lords, dude.
I feel like I'm like interviewing you, but it's hard to tell.
If we're podcasting, it's Sledge Lords.
Okay.
It doesn't have to be weekly anymore, but it's still Sledgelords.
SEL forever.
S.
And a lot's gone by.
A lot's happened since we did the last SL.
A lot has happened.
It's been like six months, eight months.
I can't remember.
Your birthday came and went along with a big birthday bash.
You did this last weekend and I was there.
That's true.
You took advantage of a woman at my party.
We're going to talk about that.
I had a lot of interactions with a lot of women.
And I can't definitively deny that claim.
But I still think you're an hour for airing it out here on the podcast.
I'm just kidding.
Because I was actually with her yesterday and she did mention it.
And she mentioned that,
hate to let the audience down. But she mentioned that you did not
master. Bam! Bam! So that's good.
I still, we can't say definitively that I didn't
anybody that night because I came in contact with a lot of women. But
if you did, she doesn't know about it. Who is this person?
The woman? Yeah. Delilah. I don't even know what Delilah.
Delilah is an adult star who's kind of known on Twitter. She considers herself to be
at the forefront of reply girl technology.
And this is like something that has existed throughout YouTube history and internet history.
But on Twitter, anyone who tweets anything, she will quite often show up in the replies and say something scandalous, exciting, interesting enough that in theory, you will sign up for her only fans because you'll want to see this extremely annoying person who just showed up in the DMs.
You'll want to see them get...
So you went to the party and apparently she doesn't drink a whole lot and she had a few beverages.
Yeah.
And so Danny Mullen ended up actually carrying her home with the assistance of her three friends, which I think is good because you really don't want to be the guy carrying the drunk home.
Okay.
But if a bunch of her friends are there and you're just sort of acting as like, you're like the tone of the situation, you're the hired muscle that's able to sort of like get this girl home.
Sure.
But you weren't actually planning on her passed out corpse, which I think is really cool.
And I wasn't planning on it, but I did anyway.
And you're right, though.
When I go home with the friends, it's like, because if you go, if you take a chick back solo,
like, come on, no, I got to do this.
I got to make her, am I going to make sure she's safe?
And then you, you prance off like wily coyote.
That's alarming.
Right.
But I was with three other girls who are getting this girl home.
And I want people to know because right now, I get a brand to protect.
I don't want to sound chivalrous.
I was definitely going home with those three girls in order to get from the one.
who were still awake.
My concern was not with the passed out girl,
who sounds lovely, by the way.
Right, and also, what are the odds?
Maybe she awakens from her slumber
and decides that she wants to take advantage of you.
Oh, well, she doesn't sound like she'd be opposed to that sort of thing.
Were you drunk at my party?
I was hammered.
I stayed up till 6.30 a.m. the night of your party.
Did you?
Yeah.
And you're trying to convince me that you weren't doing COVID?
I wasn't.
dad doesn't really bear out to me because I was at that party as well and by two o'clock I was done now granted
I had been up since like seven in the morning I'm not sure exactly what time you're getting up
but by two o'clock and I was smoking a lot of weed and I did not drink at all I was fried people
were coming up to me and just like saying happy birthday saying good night and I was just like
unable to process absolutely anything that was happening to me it was it was a frying experience
Well, listen, buddy, you should have taken some time to step back and smell the roses.
Yeah.
Because I was there to celebrate one of the biggest business years of your life.
And I was happy for you.
And that's the only drug I needed to get me through to 630 a.
Happiness for my buddy, selfless happiness.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
That was a good time.
It's like ancient history, though.
Now I feel like the party is so in the rear view because there were so many, like, different narratives that carried out from it.
there was the narrative about Crip Mac not getting invited, which seems like ancient history,
because Crip Mac is now locked in a federal prison, or L.A. County Jail, but awaiting federal prison, I've
heard federal prison is better than L.A. County Jail, by the way.
I believe that there might be a little bit less gang-based brawling.
Like, once you go to the federal prison, you sort of just click up with your race and you're
together.
That's confusing for PURTMAC.
Like, who's Crip Mac going to be with?
The Samoans?
Is there a lot of them?
No, he's probably just with the black guys.
for sure doesn't he say the N word he basically
he's black he's black and Samoan
yeah he's hanging with them yeah yeah for sure
but yeah so that was a fun art
I just actually found out about the whole thing about you
carrying this girl home but I forgot to ask her yesterday
she was on plug talk yesterday
yeah it's weird how that
became the narrative
what happened to that night is the three
friends and I went to the party
of another big L.A. YouTuber
not the party the house
of another big L.A. YouTuber who we
can't name. Right. And I heard it was some sort of like devilish, he type vibe going on.
An or something might have taken place in a pool. Some little nausea. And that's gay stuff, right?
Well, but also satanic. Satanic and gay. We did not bring, well, I was going to say we didn't
bring extra into the scene, but we had extra war presence. It was like you. You were involved in an
yeah. How many girls did you throughout the course of this? I, so this is what happened. I, I had
with one. And it might have even been
shut the fuck up. How would you not know?
It was definitely
what? And then another man
joined the affair
and at one point
I attempted to bring another
girl in or actually let me
that sounds. And he was like no no no
the other guy
he was like no no no no it's just me
and you. I'm imagining I'm being like a big
Pakistani immigrant
But like fully on testosterone and wearing a Gucci shirt unbuttoned.
Yeah, well, when we postmated the Red Bull, he was the guy who brought it.
So we're like, fuck out, buddy.
You've officially partied too late if you have to postmate some Red Bulls to the crib.
We're all out of cuck, so we have to postmate some Red Bull.
We weren't doing, which is why we needed it.
But I did try to do something shady.
I had the guy who I brought into the picture, I told him like, hey, take the girl we've been hooking up with upstairs, have some fun up there.
I'm going to see what's going on with her friend.
Uh-huh.
And I was in the process of recruiting her friend into the pool.
Uh-huh.
But the underlings of this certain celebrity in Los Angeles,
the underlings blocked.
Really?
Kind of like his Hurley and his mic.
Those guys just sort of were buzzing around like flies.
Distracting from my, it was going down otherwise.
Right.
See, that is an awkward position to be in because I feel like in an environment
like that, if you work for someone and that someone is, let's say, you know, courting women or,
you know, providing an atmosphere for women. Yeah. You certainly, I think, are allowed to dabble
with the merchandise. Yes. But you really don't want to be like the aggressor in that kind of
situation. Like basically I'm saying if, let's say you are P. Diddy's assistant before he was
exposed for having all these freaky things going on or whatever. Your assistant. You're his assistant.
It's like you never want to be perceived as taking away from the ringleader, the ringmaster, whatever it may be.
Now you can get phone numbers.
And I see the way that various people who work for me kind of play this because there'll be a lot of porn stars around.
And obviously, like maybe they're shooting content with me and maybe you're the guy who runs the camera and you start to have a little vibe with one of the girls.
You're thinking like maybe I can fuck this girl too in a couple weeks.
and I see them sort of like treading lightly,
wanting to get her contact information,
follow their Instagram,
maybe send a DM,
but they don't want to necessarily try to be like unseating.
They don't want me to feel away about it,
but they also know that I'm probably not going to remember
who this girl is in two weeks.
And so therefore,
they have to tread lightly,
but not too light.
Yeah, it's,
that's like with anything in life,
if the guy has the chops to pull it off,
it's immediately not offensive.
Like, if your camera guy is,
smooth and relatively good looking,
you probably wouldn't have a problem with it.
But when he starts creeping out a girl
who you've worked with multiple times,
we've got an issue on our hands.
Exactly. Creeping out is the line that you definitely
don't want to get to because as soon
as you start to be the guy who's the filmmaker
or the sweeper,
the broom guy, or the
t-shirt sorter or whatever.
You just don't want to be seen as
the one who's making the girls
feel weird.
But then at the same time, you have to
realize almost every guy, once they start consuming alcohol, becomes a little weird.
Yeah.
Like, you start to kind of get into the territory of not really acting the right way.
Almost always.
Almost anybody a couple drinks in is acting a little weird.
These guys, though, they weren't, they didn't have, because we all know the creepy Uber
driver who tells girls like, oh, you know, this is not my real job.
Like, I am music producer.
Like, these guys, though, that were blocking me didn't even have the creepy camera
guy, boom mic, grip energy.
They had just, like, never seen
a guy really get... Seemed like.
They were so
in their growth
as Coxman that they were just watching
from around the corner like they were cavemen
seeing fire for the first time.
So it was even, like, more of a cock block,
if that makes sense. Because there were
voyers, like peeping
tombs looking at me through the
shrubs of the backyard.
No, but so was that the
end of the...
action or how did that it's almost hard for me to understand how this even worked in it and how you
were able to just show up and just be part of the i started the old my man oh so you show up at a
regular party and then you initiate the group it was like 3 a m but and then the girls that we came
with were like the the initial kind of the initiators you brought the sluts that dude that's the
thing about your party i met them at your party and your party like it is it is the mecca
for a guy like me who's got a job that's kind of repellent.
I don't think it could be Mecca if it was like a party that only existed once
and realistically might not even happen in the future.
I feel like we need to think of a better metaphor.
Yeah, Mecca, there weren't too many women there in full burqas.
I didn't see any men on their knees.
Some women on their knees, perhaps.
I did see a girl with a bo-go-up her ass doing like a go-go dance right next to me.
Wait, seriously?
Yeah.
Wow, that's awesome.
Because there's this one girl, Gia Durza, that I've been talking.
trying to shoot with Lennon with for a while and like she gave me head one time back in the day like
on some random shit and I was talking to her at the party and I said hey gee you should come on
plug talk sometime she literally like lifts her leg like a dog and pulls her ass cheek up and
scoots her underwear to the side revealing a in her butt and says okay but can we do anal and I'm just
like uh-huh and at that moment I was like okay my brain is not completely fried because I'm very much
entertaining this proposition.
But, okay, there's a problem.
She was wearing a bag like it was an everyday garment.
This chick is an anal legend.
She's like so known for anal that I'm pretty sure she has again like at the dentist's office.
Like it's just her way of life.
Where do you rank her versus Adriana Chechick?
Another anal legend.
To be honest, I haven't done anal with either of them.
But from what I understand, they're probably like similar.
Like they're both black belts.
Oh, maybe it.
Adrian Chichich might be approaching coral belt.
I don't at least red wait you really go from black to coral you can go coral my
years is coral take coral takes nigh a lifetime I think Gia's probably got a lot of coral
there ass literal coral literal coral she went out buggy boarding and some just broke off and
floated up there but it was kind of awkward okay because I mentioned Gia showing me her
butt plug a couple different times to Lena Lena doesn't normally get insecure about the
threesome and the me or the girl stuff
a little bit of insecurity because of the fact that she is just not an anal warrior the way that some
of these other girls are you could call her a blue belt lena has a blue belt in in anal yeah i'll give it to her
because she's she's we've done it very we've really done it a bunch of times and we've done it on camera
but as she gets older i feel like it just kind of becomes like more and more of a thing where she just
doesn't really like enjoy the the prep the eating gummy bears for 24 hours in the lead up to it
is that what you're supposed to do some porn girls
take it that far. I don't think 24 hours. But I think like you might, you might not eat anything
but gummy bears from like, you know, 8 p.m. the night before until the scene. What if they just
don't eat anything, period? I think not eating anything period would probably be fine too,
but I guess the gummy bears kind of fulfill a little bit of that. It seems like that would turn
your poop into a sticky, diureic sludge. I would love to actually see,
imagine your finger on the ass and then just a bunch of gummy bears start coming out with it,
just pure gummy bears.
way. Somebody showed me recently the clip
of Lena Rhodes getting
rubber ducky shoved up her ass.
I didn't know about that. That's a clip. I guess
Holly Day showed me this. I want to
talk about that too, buddy. We got to talk about that.
Because you were talking about Lena getting jealous of you and
chicks. You did your first solo.
Was that ever? Or just in a long time?
Second ever. Lina Rhodes
Holiday showed me got, I guess,
20 rubber ducies.
Shut the fuck up. Small
rubber ducies, I'll admit.
And I didn't see all of the video. So I
can't confirm. I wasn't tally
marking or moving over the beads on
abacus as each duck
disappeared in the rectum. But
Holly Day said 20 duckies,
and I saw three come out
because she shits them all up. Adam is
frantically Googling this as we speak.
Lana Rhodes shows off her very
talented asshole. It's on
a porn hub with 7.2
million views.
Top comment says, poor Mike.
You know,
because Mike name like that they're a
But it says that the top, one of the other top comments says,
watching her squeeze the rubber ducks out of her ass was so high.
I honestly didn't even know that that existed.
But do you feel a little creepy watching that,
knowing that she resents her entire porn career and hates the fact that this content is still online?
Like, I'm sure that Jules Jordan, who's a legitimate businessman who's been making porn for all these years,
he's probably been hit up by our multiple times asking him to remove this content from Pornhub.
And it's probably just a hard no.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I think you know what you're doing once the second rubber ducky goes up there.
The first one.
I'm testing the waters here.
But, I mean, you got to know, like getting into this career, the porn career, that is a, that's an all-in decision.
And it's, yeah, I mean, it's, I do feel bad sometimes because girls get into it when they're 18.
Yeah.
And I'm glad that I didn't have the ability to do anything life-changing and permanent when I was
team just for the reason that
I mean nobody was going to pay me to get
on camera that's probably not true
probably somebody would have changed nowadays I feel like
there's got to be some pay pig out there who wants to get
you putting stuff in your
ass and I actually think there's a pretty large
market for me putting my ass on camera
right here
you I'm one participant
yeah how big of a check
would let me ask you this because we had
you had holiday on plug talk
who I like because her name sounds like
both holiday and
Hollandease sauce.
Holly Day.
Hollandees.
Is that what you put on an Eggs Benedict?
Yes.
Okay.
I do like Eggs Benedict when I'm hung over.
I don't know what it is, but it tastes good.
I don't know if I'd like to fuck Holiday when I'm hung over.
That sounds overwhelming.
But you mentioned to me, you asked me when we were on the Plug Talk couch,
what it would take for me to double team a chick with you on camera.
And I want to ask you this.
If you were the check cutter, the money man for a plug talk scene involving me, you,
in some female talent of our choice,
what kind of check would you cut me
to do my porn debut?
See, we don't normally pay the performers.
I know. This time you do, though.
Okay. They put it on their only fans.
It's a content trade situation.
This is different.
You're asking me how much we would be able to pay you
if you were to actually...
I really don't know.
I don't know, like, how many people are out there
that want to see this kind of thing.
I mean, maybe, like, we could afford to get...
you a couple thousand bucks but i don't know i mean i almost feel like i would rather just pay swelby
q for two reasons you for two reasons a couple thousand i mean like what is it really worth like
that that's normal porn rates dude i think if you i'm not a normal porn star i know and i feel like
in a lot of ways you might be less valuable no normal porn dude i put asses in seats i put eyeballs on
screen. If you and I, here's the problem, there would be a large contingent of my fan base who would
probably pirate it. That would be the main downside. But I think of the people who watch sledge lords,
I still get hit up by a lot of people about sledge lords. It's got, I don't know if you've seen that,
but I feel like it's got a cultish following. Yeah. I feel like they would pay premium prices,
maybe up to $100 ahead
to watch you and I
throat
insert name here.
Okay, let's take you out of the equation.
I don't like that so far.
Let's say that
I got Brendan Shob's porn debut.
Oh, man.
How much is that worth?
More than mine.
How many fans of his
who know about him,
hate him, love him,
how many people are really going to show up
to watch him?
I don't really think it's that high a percentage.
Even if you were to go
like to some of the most popular creators
Kyle from Nelk.
How many of his fans really want to see him?
I don't know. I think a lot.
I think probably a decent amount.
I think the hierarchy there is definitely
Kyle at the top, bread and shop number two.
Me number three, I'll be humble in that regard.
But I'm curious, the industry of only fans,
I'm wondering,
have you seen any decline in the amount of revenue
that women are able to command?
Well, for us, like since,
well, I've only been,
doing plug talk for like two years. But that being said, I believe that the pandemic was the high
point for all porn creators. Like things got really out of control when people had that much time
to be at home beaten off and tons of new girls were getting into it. I assume that there's
some degree of that, but I don't really know that much about how much individual girls have had
their paychecks kind of degrade over time. You would think that dudes on average would get a little bit
more particular as time went by, but I'm not really sure. I haven't really looked into it. But let's talk
about your girlfriend licking my butthole i was already close to walking out of here as it was
holly do you bring that shit up like it and that's disrespectful a little of a tone
how many times if you get sex with holly should i be honest here yeah only because i feel like
she wouldn't care but um a couple of times nice that's dope you like that's a good number
couple that's two especially since i know you have a refractory period of like multiple days
like a koala bear or something.
You're basing this off nothing, first of all.
I have a refractory period of like a couple of weeks because this is how I work.
I'm usually pretty head down focused on my work,
but then I will be overtaken by like a fever of lust.
And for a couple of days, I just all I can see is the color pink.
See, that's me all the time.
It's distracting.
Prior to my relationship and everything.
I used to be on a pussy mission every night of my life and sometimes during the day.
Yeah, well, also, it's easy to get pussy out of your system when your job is to fuck it three times a week.
Women other than your wife.
Now it's different, but I'm just saying, like, back when I was a single man running around these streets, it was, it took its toll on me.
Yeah.
Mentally.
No, definitely.
Because everything about chasing pussy is at odds with productive things in your life.
Usually what goes hand in hand with chasing pussy, drugs and alcohol, terrible hours, spending money.
It's like the antithesis of success.
It's the last thing a man trying to make something of himself should become obsessed with.
There are some upsides to it.
So your girlfriend was on her knees giving me head on that plug-tock couch.
And I start to do a little...
I will throw this in your face right now.
I started to do a little motion.
It's about 80 degrees.
Start to lift my leg.
And she thinks that I'm trying to get her to sit on top of me and ride my day.
Yeah, what were you actually trying to do?
I'm not.
I'm trying to get my ass licked.
I don't know if you forgot, but I told you beforehand.
that I was going to go in the bathroom and it actually ended up on your Patreon, pause.
But I took the baby wipes and I was jamming the baby wipes halfway out my asshole
because I was really trying to make sure that I had a nice clean area for her to tongue down.
And she did.
So it was very nice of her.
It hurt enough when you actually did it in person,
but you bringing it up now is completely uncalled for and over the line.
I also feel like I might have kissed her more than I've ever kissed a girl that I did a scene with
just because, I don't know,
ass-licking, plus the fact that I knew you were in the other room.
Trying to get in, desperately.
You had to move the Coke machine to block the door.
No, it was a fridge, but I jiggled the fridge and moved the fridge right in front of the
door so that you wouldn't be able to get in.
Listen, do you want to catch these fists outside?
Do you want to get these bony paws on your chin?
I'm trying to help Holly win.
I'm trying to make sure that Holly blows up further through licking my asshole.
It's crazy that that works.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, because there's going to be some trickle-down money if she's my new
her mama but you don't have to keep rubbing it in my face like she rubbed her face in your
asshole on friday it's a dick move bro if you're at the point in your life where you and holly
are able to you know you're able to tolerate her porn career and then she's able to tolerate the
fact that you will fuck some other girls from time to time and you're able to like have that kind
of relationship where she'll just come over and be able to spend time with you satisfy you
whatever in that regard i think you should lean into that and i don't think you should let
the fact that she was tongue deep in my asshole, I don't think you should let that stop you from
enjoying her company. It's the lingo, Adam. It's tongue deep in my, did you have to paint that vulgar
picture for us? You could have said, you could have just said, don't let the fact that I received
analingus distract you. Though even that, it's hard to describe ass looking in any way that's flattering,
okay. So say I was doing, I consider myself very good to this. I take a lot of pride in this.
Let's say that I was in a cafe with a couple other industry people.
I don't like where this is going, but okay.
We were talking about shooting an ass-eating scene.
Yeah.
I would call it a rimming scene.
I would say the rim scene.
That's better.
Well, we all have all these different words.
It's a talent instead of, you know, massive dicked male.
Yeah.
You say, like, you know, all these different things that we've created so that we can kind of talk about it in mixed settings without having to seem offensive.
Sure.
And I wish you would have used that lingo when you were speaking.
to me about Holly Day, but you chose not.
I think it was a conscious choice.
I feel like you're turned on by her porn career.
I feel like you belong in the cut club with me and Destiny and Sneak-up.
Do you want to join?
That's good company, man.
I wouldn't hate that.
What is the communication that you've had with your ex-girlfriend?
What's going on with her?
So her-
Fully over?
So her and I, we didn't talk basically all of the summer.
Oh.
And that really hurt.
like yeah like it didn't feel good when there was like absolutely no communication between us at all
I feel that um but then we we started kind of we resumed talking on a on a friendly basis in the fall
and that made me feel a lot better I guess just when there's the idea that there's somebody out there
who detests you to the point where they won't even speak to you that and especially when it's
somebody you cared about that can be sad how did you guys how did you guys
get to the point of her detesting you?
Was it the beating and the...
It was the beating.
It might have been, yeah, the
me standing up in a restaurant after like
six scotches and calling her a whore.
Wait, that happened?
No.
Just imagining a Hollywood blowout.
Right. Some producer and his cheating
wife, you fucking whore. But did
it really got to that point where she despised you?
What did you do to earn this? You know, it was
like, um,
so
we
we were
I'm trying to even remember now
it's been so long but we broke up
then we started hanging out again and the feelings
kind of rekindled in the spring
but then
some things happened very minor things
like our relationship was never about big
blowouts and screaming and like cheating
or anything like that though you
mentioning on a podcast once that a YouTuber
his girl cheated for 10 grand
everybody assumed that was me
and her I know and I was totally talking about
somebody else and I've read hell a comment saying that it was about you and it was about this other
dude that you don't even know. Yes, that was not Mia. And I want to say that for her because
she got like bombarded with those comments. She was super faithful. That was not her. And you had to tell
her Adam was talking about somebody completely different. I did. Yeah. Well, I'm sure she like knew that you
weren't telling me that she was prostituting herself. Like, why would you make that up? That would be weird.
Well, you know, if I was bitter, if I was really bitter when she wasn't talking to me, I can see somebody
doing that. But I actually just told her. I just explained that to it.
her like a couple of weeks ago. But we, we had some sort of disagreement once we kind of were getting
back together. And then I think I unfollowed her on Instagram, which pissed her off. And I was doing
that because the feelings were still there. It just, it was hard to see her like in my feed.
That's why I did it. And like, I explained that to her over text and she didn't respond to it.
It could be hard for me to see her in my feed as well, because sometimes I'll be scrolling through.
Because you feel guilty after you wipe the jizz off your screen.
No, I'll just be tempted.
I'll, like, consider it for a second.
I'll be like, maybe I should beat off to this.
Maybe I should click the bookmark button.
But I will be scrolling through and I'll see a picture of her and just be thinking some random only fans, girl.
And then I'll, like, glance at the name and be like, ah, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Thank you.
After all the anal comments.
I mean, that's your actual X.
So I can't.
Yeah.
But, I mean, Holly, she's playing the game.
She's an actress.
She's playing the game.
I'm still hopelessly in love with her
And it's every cock she takes
Is a dagger in the heart
But would you actually be able to date her
Or is the whole like fucking dread multiple times thing
Is that is that fucking it up for you currently?
You know her having sex with dread
And then me having sex with Holly Day
If anything that made me feel better about myself
Because
Just to even be considered as a sexual object
After that fucking full grown
Anaconda
slithered into her pussy made me feel less self-conscious about my penis.
But I don't know.
I'm not really in the place where I want to date anybody right now.
And I don't know.
And I don't think I would not do the,
I would not be able to date a porn star.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not for the fan at heart.
I feel like a lot of guys probably don't have the fortitude.
Yeah.
People talk, because when people tell me like Adam 22 is a cook, Danny,
why are you hanging out with him?
I'm just like, clearly Adam has.
the kind of mental wiring
where he's able to do that
and still be perfectly happy
and clearly he's a fucking super
high level guy.
So who are you to judge him
from wherever you are in your own life?
Which I guarantee you aren't living
your terms in the way that
you aren't living your life on your terms
in the way that he is. It seems so strange
to me for someone to actually
be like angry about the whole
cuck thing because I totally understand
the teasing, the making joke
the, oh, this is funny.
We're going to exploit this for the LOLs.
But I don't really understand the people
who are, like, mad about it.
In the same way that if I found out
that Donnie over here was secretly
sniffing around with some dudes.
Would I hate him?
I would have been mad at him.
Would I think it was pretty funny?
They're like, oh, okay, he's a little zesty.
He takes a walk on the wild side from time to time.
Of course, I would think it was funny.
But I'm not going to be, you know, that's your choice.
What you want to do behind closed doors.
And for the record, Donnie, as far as I'm concerned, has a spotless record of heterosexuality.
But I think there's a couple of poop stains on that record.
We don't know.
We're still looking into it.
I will say, though, Donnie right now, his posture at the computer chair, he's got the posture.
He points at his ring.
Well, it's California.
Gay marriage is legal, buddy.
I haven't met your wife, but it could be a dude.
We don't know.
Donnie, you do have the posture of a guy looking up gay porn right now.
And that's just your posture.
And it's from behind, too.
All I see is his head sticking up over the computer chair.
Imagine we looked over there one day, and the guy who's, like, running the podcast also was, like, multitasking, watching gay porn.
Well, in our case, he'd probably just be Googling something we told him to Google.
Hey, hey, Google Performer X is cock.
I want to see how I stack up.
Do you think that the fans watching at home are annoyed by the fact that we've been talking about sex for a half hour?
Or you think that they're all right?
I am optimistic, and I think that people like it when we podcast enough of they're probably, they're down.
Yeah.
I think they're probably down.
People have missed Sledgelords.
Yeah, that's true.
Okay, other other things that I wanted to discuss aside from Holly day
Licking my asshole like a like a Tutsi pop
Yeah, Lenin wasn't around for that one. That was a little spicy. Yeah, how did that feel to go home? Did you feel a little guilty?
I didn't even mention anything about it to her
I didn't say a word to her about it and then finally like two days later she goes
So how was Holly you didn't say anything about it? You didn't say a word you didn't tell me one? I didn't say a word
one thing about it.
I guess that was a little suspicious.
I should have told her like some sort of like super basic version of it to make her like less
curious.
Yeah.
I think me not telling her anything about fucking.
Yeah.
Made her suspicious that maybe I enjoyed it so much that I didn't want to tell her a
single thing.
Yeah.
And then I actually like had the perfect trump card because she said something about like me
hitting Holly up to shoot.
So I go to my text and I go to my text.
with holly and i show her that our most recent communication was holly saying like hey i would
love to come on plug talk sometime if you guys have any openings so that was like super good that i was
like no look sure she hit me up to do it if what if the last thing in my phone and it's well within
the the rights of my relationship to hit up girls to be on plug talk but as we were sort of having
the conversation about like you know who was the aggressor that was like a real good thing for me to
be able to pull out i let it and say like
I didn't initiate this.
Holly initiated that.
Boom.
Yeah.
You're going to have to cut the scene
where you cream piter
and told her you loved her,
but...
Oh, my God.
Cream piner would have been so insane.
You know, you and I are Eskimo brothers
now official.
Official?
Just with her?
Or with who else?
You got some other ones?
Probably, maybe.
Who knows?
We should consult this.
You and I get around L.A., baby.
If we looked at every person
that we have in common on Instagram,
we would probably find, like,
a lot of guys and, like,
maybe some girls.
Mostly guys.
Yeah.
I wonder you said,
Holly said jokingly when we were doing the plug talk interview that we were her dream double team
I think there are a fair amount of women who wouldn't mind the the 22 Danny Mullen double team
if you wanted to do that on plug talk I would be happy to do it I feel like I could get hard and
perform with a lot of crazy shit going on yeah like if I was in a refugee camp that I could get
hard to perform if somebody busted out of camera you on the other hand not 100% sure I've seen
I've seen guys who fuck for a living unable to perform because they're in the same room as another guy.
And that, I would hate to see that happen to you.
If you and I had a show where we basically did Sledgelords, like we had the headsets on the headset mics and we had a drink in our hand, which I'm not sure if that's legal in pornography.
But if we were drinking and podcasting while we were double teaming a chick, that might break the industry.
One time a girl showed up to Plug Talk with a truly.
That's not that strange.
But she had it like on the set, like while we're doing the interview, she's like sipping the truly.
Is that not allowed?
I feel like that might be illegal.
It's just kind of weird because it's like, you know, she was totally coherent.
But also, it's her drinking alcohol.
Yeah.
So you just like, you probably want to have like a cup or something.
Sure.
If the girl's going to look drunk at all, like it's totally normal to have a couple drinks before you have sex.
But if you're going to look drunk on camera, I feel like that is all bad.
That's like you definitely don't want to like even get close.
to that line. Yeah, that's like bondage.
Well, it's crossing the lines of
legality, maybe. But bondage isn't crossing
the line of legality, is it? Bondage
can be, I think it's illegal. I think if a girl
is truly tied up, you're not allowed
to have sex with her when she's tied up. You have to
untie her. Well, I think, like, in the bondage
community, I'm not sure about the legality of it,
but in the bondage community, for sure, they have, like,
an agreement about exactly, like, the terms
of the consent and stuff, because, yeah, if
you're fully tied up, and then you decide that you
don't want to do this, and you can't
stop them from doing it. God, that could get tricky.
real quick. I wanted to ask you about
the felony situation.
Sure. Break this down for our slightly
less regime
adjacent viewers.
Not guilty, baby. Who don't know
about what you did. Not guilty.
So you went somewhere. To Tennessee.
Tennessee. Can I take a wee-wee before we're talking about this?
Do it. Tennessee.
Tennessee.
So yeah, it's been, we haven't recorded a sludge lord
since I got arrested in Tennessee.
We were filming a documentary
out there basically
on like big food and big soda,
exploiting poor people
in the way that
like Coca-Cola
and hostess cupcakes are marketed
exclusively to people in poverty.
Mountain Dew has basically
been crop-dusted into Appalachia
since like the 1930s.
So we were doing something on that
and the way we were going to cover that
in a funny, unique Danny Mullin-esque way
is we went to a free pop-up dental clinic
for basically impoverished hillbillies
who can't afford a dentist.
And we went in there
and were like pretending
we were dental hygienists.
Right.
Amateur dental hygienists.
We pretended we were dental hygienist enthusiasts.
Right.
And we get there and like the really,
the bit was super innocent.
Like it,
what we were being very polite to everybody.
Everybody was laughing.
They invited us in.
Nothing really even usable happened
that I would be like,
yes, psyched on this footage.
This is going to be great.
on video. But a couple of the people at the clinic were very displeased. We were there and they called
the police. Now, we just flew across the country, drove deep into the wilderness of eastern Tennessee.
This is the very first shoot, the very first morning of what's going to be a four-day shoot,
and the cops roll up on us. And why did you end up at this particular dentist office in this
remote area? Because we wanted somewhere deep in Appalachia, and this was the only one we could
And I just love the fact that you're used to doing content in LA.
And as far as YouTube content goes, as far as getting the police to do anything, the standard in L.A. is about as high as it gets.
You've got to really fuck up in order for the cops to take notice because they are just demotivated, understaffed, and just really, unless it's a murder, unless you have a brick of cocaine strapped to your waist or a bomb or something, then they pretty much are not going to show.
show up or do anything.
And then you go and you do this like relatively harmless skit that I feel like if you went
to every dentist office in Hollywood and tried to do this, this act, you probably wouldn't
ever even run into the cops.
I would just do the Starbucks across the street.
One of the baristas made a beautiful four latte frappuccino tray that was clearly destined
for some film shoot or some tech powwow.
A homeless guy in cargo shorts and non-matching shoes walked in, lifted it up, and walked out the door.
Just stole probably $35 worth of Starbucks.
So you...
The barista took one look, didn't even say a word, and began remaking the order.
Shut the fuck up, really?
No thought of calling the police for the reasons that you just laid out.
Wow.
In L.A., if you called the police, they would basically laugh in your face.
If you were like, hey, you know, a guy just came in here and stole a bunch of merchandise.
And I feel like in most Starbucks throughout the world, if there were to be this high-priced drink that came up missing, that the Starbucks staff, when they saw this discrepancy in what was sold that day, that they would assume that it was just one of the employees who had helped themselves to a drink because how else would someone get it?
I don't feel like any of the Starbucks I go to on a normal basis that you would ever see someone stealing from that sort of end zone there where they let everybody get their drink.
but welcome to Hollywood.
Yeah.
Happens on a regular basis, I'm assuming.
Constantly.
So you're so right.
And I go to jail because they look through,
the cops were actually like very polite.
The cop was all in favor.
He knew that what we were doing.
So they charged me with a felony.
And the reason they charged me with a felony
is they were throwing the book at me.
They were prosecuting me as if I had set up a real dental clinic
represented myself as a dentist
and was performing
bogus root canals for profit.
That's how they prosecuted me.
Like I was actually harming people
and making money from it,
not an asshole YouTuber from L.A.
But of course, being an asshole YouTuber from L.A.
probably even made it worse.
The cop was in favor of dropping it.
He wanted to drop it to a misdemeanor in court.
It was just, I think it might have been
one of the DAs who just hated me.
But they took me to jail over it.
The cop just kind of shrugged his shoulders.
Like, I'm sorry. It says it's a felony. We got to. They took me to jail. And that jail, that was my first time ever being in anything other than like a drunk tank.
And Adam, for once, it kind of like made me sympathize with all these people out here blowing the trumpet of criminal reform.
And, you know, because I've always been pretty pro-law and order. Like, I couldn't relate to the George Floyd riots and the people who were like, fuck the police, ACAB.
I didn't get that at all.
White.
What's that?
You're white.
Yeah, basically I'm white.
That would have saved me a lot of breath right there.
But once I was in that jail cell for about a day and just seeing those terrible conditions, I kind of like have sympathy now for the people who are just, they're born into poor circumstances and ignorance leads them down a road that it winds them up in jail.
I'm pretty sure that the Appalachia, the Appalachia region is where, has.
Have you ever seen? I think it's the most viewed video on the soft wipe underbelly YouTube channel.
And it's basically like a house full of like inbred handicapped people.
The Whitakers?
Yes, the Whitakers.
And they're like barking like dogs.
And there's a lot of like,
like just weird high pitch noises and shit.
And like you've never really seen people like this.
I'm pretty sure that they are the result of like intense multi-generational imbreeding.
Yes.
Which is fine, which is great.
Yes.
And that was, I imagine there were probably some people who fit that sort of description behind bars with you, or was it not that intense?
That's the good news. I've seen that Whitaker's video. And though the people are deeply, deeply inbred, they're all very friendly and jovial toward the host. That was the case in jail, too. I walked in there. First of all, one of the guys recognizes me from YouTube and it's a huge fan. So I'm basically in with my pod of 30 guys right off the bat, which I really need.
because I was scared when I saw they were going to release me into General Pop.
But it's probably better that I got arrested in eastern Tennessee
and got thrown in the jail versus L.A.
Because there it was all jolly meth heads
who basically weren't guilty of violent crimes
and they just wanted to get released
so they could go score another bag of crystal.
And yeah, they kind of reminded me of the Whitakers.
I can't confirm or deny that any of them
were inbred.
But yeah, same sort of vibe.
It's interesting because I don't feel like just being a meth head is the type of thing
that's going to really get you behind bars out here.
The methods are allowed to run wild.
You have to commit some pretty nasty crimes while you're being a method.
Dude, that's what I was thinking about is we keep California.
We obviously have this massive homelessness crisis.
I forget we have like 60% of the nation's homelessness.
Well, no shit.
Like the incentives to be homeless in California,
all year around you can sleep on the beach without a blanket and pretty much be fine.
you can walk up to a police cruiser, take a deep hit of a meth pipe in his face and blow the cloud into the open car window, and he'll probably just write you a ticket.
How harshly do you judge somebody for smoking meth? Because there was a guest that I had on the podcast recently, and I have no idea if it's true, but there was a lot of comments accusing him of smoking meth.
And I don't really know how to feel about that because on one hand, let's say that I knew that you were doing Coke on a regular beer.
basis. I mean, I would be a little bit worried for you on a friendship level, but it's not like I would
like write you out of my life just because you're doing Coke. And I wonder, like, is meth that
serious? It's definitely a step further than Coke. Like, culturally, I feel like it occupies a certain
place in our mind. Yeah. But it's, I wouldn't judge somebody harshly if I found out that
Donnie over here, if I found out he was on Adderall on a daily basis, I would be like, whatever.
Donnie, that's cool. However you get through the day. Stop popping aty and looking up gay porn,
Donnie. You really need the chill over there.
I, it's whether, I mean, I don't know anybody who successfully smokes a lot of meth.
That's what, I mean, we know, we know some guys who do Coke probably too much,
right, who are still killing it.
But I think because there isn't that champion of entrepreneurial meth smoking,
we can't really approve of it.
The only guy I know who's on methamphetamine or who has done it in the past,
I'm though I'm not sure he's clean, is rat dick Ralph.
Right.
Who is now entered both of our worlds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
almost banged my wife well he was there on the reality show sure sure almost got his
ass beat by krip mac if yeah exactly on my channel if he would have won probably multiple times
yeah on our channel he almost got his ass beat if he would have won like i don't know how it would
happen but would you have let him spoiler he would not have won i mean a lot of people keep asking me
like what if krip mack won i i hate to be the one who's kind of like letting you guys know the
Santa Claus isn't real.
But, you know, Critt Mac and Raddick Ralph were really brought in for comedic relief.
Because most of the, like, actual porn star dudes, they're cool, they're smooth, they're nice to hang out with.
They're like fun guys, but they're not like hilarious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Little Dee was kind of funny and he ended up winning.
But like Crip Mack and Reddick Ralph are like way more extreme.
We need to reword for season two, it shouldn't be Lena.
It should be a chick like Kazumi, who we know will bang guys for the walls.
Yeah.
when we saw that with king crock and then it really should be just the most reprehensible bunch of guys we can put together
oh you know what i want to do i want to do like kuzumi squid games and not just because she's asian
but like you imagine we had like i mean real squid games was like 400 guys right yeah like we can't
do 400 but imagine we like had like a like a hundred or like couple hundred and we like really did
some crazy ass events yeah and then we whittle it down to like the final 10 that gets a gangbanger
Dude, I love it.
I love it.
And then you and I are drinking, like walking around.
I say maybe, yeah, 10 guys get to do it at once.
So it's like a group scene and you and I are up in the mix.
If I'm going to do this, I need to like hurry up and do it because Kazumi literally
will start producing this herself if she sees this episode.
Kazumi.
She has created every kind of porn content imaginable.
I feel like at this point it must almost be kind of awkward for her because she's like
running out of podcast to go on.
And like probably doesn't really have any like stories that are going to wow anybody
anymore the way that when she told us about
her gang bangs back in the day
we were just so
captivated like I'm sure she just doesn't really
have infinite stories like that anymore
well I mean we just came up with a great idea
that'll make her probably at least six
figures in like five seconds
so I'm just scared of how much it would take
to produce Kazumi Squid Games
whatever I mean we fucking just bring the scale
down a little bit like I mean
Kazumi dude I
all respect goes to Kazumi
when I saw her not only did she
do a scene with a
civilian who
I love. I love King Crock, but he
was $10,000 in debt
and struggling with mental health issues.
Not only did she do a scene with him,
a non-porn star,
unprotected, she
did it in his
bathroomless, like
20 square foot bedroom
with cobwebs and dirty laundry
on the floor. I feel like she's not
trying to be that girl anymore, and I don't
know if that's because, like, maybe her boyfriend
isn't really feeling her.
Shout out to Reggie.
Shout out to Reggie.
He is the man.
I don't know if maybe that's just like something that occurred to me.
He's like maybe he's not really feeling the vibe of her like really perpetuating this I'm for everyone thing.
Or maybe it's just her trying to clean up her image a little bit.
But I did.
I texted her months ago.
Perhaps like during the rollout of the Crip Mac episode.
I asked her or it might even been before that.
But like I asked her, will you bang Crip Mac for Plug?
And I was really.
thinking that she was going to do it. And she was like, no, I'm not that girl anymore.
Hmm. Like, I'm just not, I'm not trying to be that the gang bang girl. I'm not trying to be the
girl who fucks Crip Mac or the girl who fuck's King Crock. Yeah. Like I do you think Crip Mac or do you
think that Kazumi would enjoy fucking Crip Mac or King Crock more? They are different sides of the same
of the same in a lot of ways. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. It's like that is, I mean, it's not the same as
being the chick who gets shit on in like a Japanese porno or like the Bucat.
hockey girl. But it is
like there is an element
of I am like the gimmick in the
porn. It's like doing the donkey show
in Tijuana. Yeah, I'm going to let this
fat fucking guy get behind me and just sort of like
hammer away at me a little bit until he like
bust a little nut and I'm just
along for the ride. Yeah, I wonder if Kazimmy thought
that was worth it in the long run. Yeah, I'm trying to picture
in my head right now from Reggie's perspective, her boyfriend's. Like I'm trying to
imagine if I was still with my ex,
do I want her banging dread
who's like the professional quote unquote option
or do I want her vagina into a cavern
for some period of time
yes and then there's for me there's the
terrifying idea that she really really likes it
and that versus King Crock where you know there's no chance
to she'll like it well he didn't have a big penis
but I get what you're saying yeah
it's King Crock doesn't have the swagger yet he couldn't get it hard
for the life of him for all his talk about
his sexual
dynamism.
But would I rather have my ex-bang
dread or rat Dick Ralph?
Hmm, that's tough.
I might rather put a gun barrel in my mouth,
to be honest. I'll be honest with you,
not knowing anything about King Croc
or really not knowing much about
Crip Mac's living situation in general.
When I saw your video where you went
to Raddick Ralph's house and you showed
how nasty his apartment was,
that really struck me
as like, oh,
you're disgusting.
You're like the grossest fucking person on earth.
Krip Mack at one,
you probably don't know this.
Krip back at one point,
like his ex kind of like exposed like the room that he was living in at the time.
And like the gist of it is kind of like that there was like a mattress and then like a trash
bag full of clothes in the bath in the closet.
That's like he's just not really somebody who like felt the need to like settle down any more than that.
He's like he's got a bag of clothes.
Yes.
If I had to guess he would probably have like another corner where he was this dirty.
clothes before he gets the laundry done.
Although I don't know if he ever really like wore the same shirt twice.
If he did, I didn't see it too often.
That's a luxury of clout.
Yeah.
People are just giving you so much free shit.
I feel like Krip Mack was the kind of guy who was just like wake up and buy a new shirt every day.
That's irresponsible.
Yeah.
But you know what?
I can relate to that because I feel like every guy when they're around community college age
has some version of a mattress on the floor and a bag of laundry in the corner.
And to me, adulthood is.
really the journey from that to having a bed frame and a laundry hamper and, you know,
the baseboards of your house being clean. Right. Like Lena always says that when she met me,
she like threw us going on our first date and stuff. She's thinking, this is a very like early
era podcasting, but she's like, he's got this popular podcast. He's 31. He seems like, you know,
he's got his life together to some extent. He might have some money or something. And, you know,
She was only like 25 when I met her, so she's not really like super familiar with the good life or anything like that.
She's like fresh out of college.
She's not really like expecting me to be like mega rich to hang out with her or anything like that.
But then she goes over my house and it's a mattress on the floor.
It's like, you know, like I live with like five BMX dudes at the time.
And she was very much like, ah, like, okay, he lives in a fucking shithole.
And she was kind of let down at that moment.
Yeah.
You know, to me, I never really saw the reason to have a bed frame because in my mind, it's like, well, I'm going to move my apartment every year or two.
And I don't even know how to put a bed frame together.
So if it does get put together, there's no way that I'm going to be able to reassemble it.
Sure.
So what the fuck is the point?
And, like, what does a bed frame even do?
Don't you feel like the bed on the ground?
It's like, like, you have the box spring and then you have the mattress.
What is the bed doing?
I think it adds
aesthetically something
aesthetically for sure
And then also the bottom of my box spring
When it was just on the ground
Would get like dirty
Like dust mites and shit
And so it keeps everything clean
But did you have some net worth built up
When you first met Atlanta when you were 31
If I had to get
The BMX website
That was like doing okay
I'm grinding out these logs and stuff
I'm maybe
If I had to guess I would say
I probably had like $30,000 in the bank
All right
So
And I have a few people on payroll and stuff
So it's like I'm kind of doing my thing.
Sure.
I wasn't doing like great or anything.
Maybe 20,000.
Yeah.
I feel like once a guy gets like 20 or 30 grand,
that's just so head and shoulders above the average guy out there
that he's well on his way to being successful.
The thing is that the average dude that I know will get 20 or 30 grand
and start spending as if this money is going to last forever.
When in reality, having 20 or 30 grand is like,
it's a good safety net.
Yes.
It's a good, like, maybe you could take on some sort of like small business
businesses from here or whatever,
certainly not enough for you to start living
as if money doesn't matter that much.
Sure. Yeah, it should get the taste of saving
and having money in your mouth
and encourage you to acquire more.
But I'm curious now because you're obviously
further along in your business journey than I am,
but I, you know, I've made adjustments to my living situation.
My apartment is very nice.
I have a bed frame.
I have two bathrooms, two bedrooms,
an office.
Like, my place is fine.
but I still have a piece of shit car.
My closets are still dirty.
I don't have an adult cookware set.
I don't have matching glasses and plates.
Is there still anywhere in your life where you feel like that 31-year-old guy sleeping on a mattress on the floor?
Well, if you get into my car, because I smoke spliffs.
Yeah.
And I quite often smoke them while driving.
And my car doesn't have like an ashtray.
Okay.
So I just kind of ash like wherever like there's like a little nook like next to the the steer thing like we change the gears or whatever I know what it's called but uh yeah the gear shifter and your B and your your year shift your 90,000 dollar car. It's like a little look right there and I just kind of ashen that and then sometimes I'll like look down and see all that ash building up and I'll just go and I'll just blow on it as hard as I can and that sends the ash flying all over the car.
so there will like no longer be very much of it in this little nook yeah but now there's a small
amount of it on every other part of the car yeah yeah and sometimes my girl gets in there and it
smells like an ashtray it smells like very very gross that's definitely something that i look at
and i'm like you're a nasty fuck yeah i wonder if you'd be doing that if you owned the car instead of
leasing it. Let me hit you with something
even worse that I don't think I've ever
said on here. But that's the thing is every once in a while
I get my car cleaned. It's good as new.
I mean, it still kind of smells a little bit like tobacco and shit in there, but
like for the most part, it's like kind of takes you back to reality.
I think at some point you might not be able to shift back into park
from drive because of all the grime buildup.
That would be a problem. When I was in college,
I had my computer up against the wall.
And, you know, one day I'm just
beating my meat and I'm in college. So I'm not.
like mature, responsible enough to even have some tissues.
Sure.
And I just kind of like notice there's a little bit of room between my desk and the wall.
So as I'm jerking off and I'm realizing that I don't have anywhere to get rid of it.
And like the normal hand method, which I like beat off onto like your hand.
You sort of land it right here.
That's impressive.
And then you run off to the bathroom and you, you know, get rid of it.
So wipe it down.
Get rid of it.
That's impressive.
Wash your hands.
That didn't seem like an option to me because I'm in the dorm.
So it's like, you know, if I want to, I have to walk.
like 50 feet to get to the college bathroom.
Yeah,
in my,
the communal dorm room bathroom.
And I don't want to be,
like walking through the hall,
like balancing a little nut on my hand.
Like you got a parrot on your wrist.
Yeah.
So I beat off into that corner
between the desk and the wall.
And I look at it,
I'm so young.
I'm like 19,
so I have no brain.
I look at it and I think,
oh,
it,
like,
it dried clear.
So you can't see it at all.
so I do it a couple more times
thinking it's just going to continue to like dry clear
then finally I go and I pull the desk away from the wall
after doing this I don't know 10 times
and I realize that the cum yeah it might have dried clear on the top part
but as it continued to streak down the wall
it hardened closer to the ground
so the yellowness that you would typically see in your com
has like a shade of yellowness to it like that was really collecting more at the bottom so like
i had to go and buy a brillo pad and some water and you know it's kind of like scrubbed it off the wall
and stuff like just over the years like i've just thought about that quite a few times and that just
stands out to me it's like probably one of the grossest things that i've ever had going yeah i'm
noticing these two spaces that you've treated so poorly both were rentals your dorm room and your car
your current car.
Yeah.
So I hope you're treating your,
your house that you own
with your lovely wife a little bit better.
Yeah, well,
I share it with my wife
and now my kids,
so it's like I don't really have the option
of doing anything.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of the worst place
that I have gizzed.
The one thing I will remember
as far as like disposing
of like sexual matter
and then just leaving it be
isn't any bodily fluids,
but I remember I used to draw
very graphic,
pornographic images when I was a kid.
I would draw,
because I had all these
sexual urges, but I didn't even know what sex was. And I didn't know what masturbation was.
Nobody had taught me. So my way of finding an outlet was I would draw women laying on top of men.
At what age? It's hard to know how old you were at those ages. This was probably, I started jerking off in like
fifth grade. So this must have been in fourth grade or third grade. And I would just draw people on
top of each other. And those ended up somewhere. You know, I didn't throw those away.
away. I didn't burn those. Those were just folded underneath a book that my mom, a couple of years
later, probably lifted up. And I guess that's probably not as gross as jizz. Like, I mean,
you're going to, I mean, if you had a son, his sexualness is going to come out at some point.
And you probably just take that as normal. If you had a 16 year old son and you walked in on and
beating off, what would you do? Because you don't like stop them, right? Yeah, no, you're right.
Like when I was a kid, probably when you were a kid, that would be the worst thing you could ever imagine happening.
Is your mom or dad?
But like, I think when I was 16, like when I'm like sitting on the couch beaten off as a kid, like if my, I think I thought my parents were going to like I was going to be in trouble.
Yeah.
Which doesn't really make sense to me.
Like what they do?
Like who the fuck cares?
Like this is like the most natural thing on earth.
Like good.
Jerk off.
Like this is way better than you fucking a bunch of girls when you're 16.
Yeah.
What if your dad to punish you made you make eye contact with him and finish?
that would be one option.
What about it's like getting caught smoking a cigarette where they make you smoke
the whole pack?
You got jerk off like 20 times in a row.
Jerk off to every page of the porno magazine you have on the coffee table.
Your dad's going to sit there on a stool and just be like, all right, you like jerking off?
Do it 20 times.
You're right, though, dude.
If I caught my 16-year-old son jerking off, I wouldn't mind at all.
Like, I mean, like, what the fuck do you think of 16-year-old boys going to do?
Yeah.
And he's not jerking off.
I'd say, hey, oh, my bad, bro.
I'll be back in 10.
Yeah.
How long do you need?
How long you beat off for?
You need 20?
I'll be back in 25.
Give you a little extra time.
Yeah.
All the time he needs.
However, I would then check the cookies on the computer afterwards,
and if I saw any gay shit, I would disown him.
Yeah.
I'd be worried about my son watching porn just because you,
that's a joke, by the way, as well as a few other people have told me that through watching
too much porn, they, like, weren't able to perform with a woman.
which I've never really had that problem, but I could imagine it.
You told me, Adam told me the night before he had sex with Holly, my fucking girlfriend,
that you beat off the night before.
And it's for me, if I have a date coming up where I think there's a pretty good chance
I'm going to get laid, I won't jerk off for like two days before.
So I have a hair trigger.
Yeah, I don't, I got to clean it out.
Through porn, and I hate, I hate, for the fans who are anti-sex, I'm sorry.
But through porn, I've realized there's two different.
kinds of guys. There's the guys who have a hard time finishing, and then there's the guys who have a
hard time not finishing too quickly. Now, if you are in the middle where you just have like
amazing control over your erection and you can kind of just come whenever you want to or whatever,
that's amazing. But most guys fall into one category of the other where it's kind of hard
to get hard or it's just kind of hard to stay hard. I'm a guy who I will finish too quickly if
left to my own devices.
So I have to try to lessen
the pressure. And I've gone in
there to do porn with like two
days worth of a cum built inside my body.
I don't, it's too much of a
hair trigger.
Yeah, it seemed like the porn industry
used to be the big taboo was
not being able to get hard.
I never have any problems with that.
But increasingly I am
hearing from guys who
their dick doesn't work because of porn
and they can't, and finishing
the only way they can finish is jerking themselves off.
The supple skin of a woman's innards
no longer does the trick.
Forget a blowjob.
That's completely out the window.
That's baffling to me.
Can you come from a blow job?
Yeah.
Easy.
It's a little bit...
The pussy is way easier to come from.
I agree.
But just in general,
I feel like the inside of a vagina feels outrageously good.
I've spent my whole life chasing that feeling.
Yeah, I had my first unprotected
sex in a while. I basically always wear condoms. I had over a Christmas break, I had unprotected
sex with a girl, and it felt stupefyingly good. And I felt, it reminded me what it's like to have that
hair trigger. Yeah. Because I, she had to keep telling me to stop because I was like, I'm going to,
I'm going to do it. I'm going to finish. And I ended up, it was on a picnic table next to the river.
What the fuck? Where were you? Dude, that's when you're staying with your parents, you got to
get creative about where you, where you do. That's why people always complain. They're like,
oh, I live with my parents.
What can I do?
Like, I can't get any chicks.
Sneak around.
Find a picnic table by the river, dude.
Right.
Hopefully not the one that I already came on.
I have this memory of like right before I got serious with Lentup.
I went back to visit my parents in New Hampshire.
And I met this girl, maybe on Tinder, maybe on Instagram.
I'm not really sure.
She tells me to come pull up to her house.
I go to her house.
She comes out.
She sits on the car, talks to me for a little while.
She invites me into the house.
I go into the house.
this girl's half black
and I wasn't going to ask
which parent was black
sure but I'm kind of thinking in my head
what if she's got
some big
linebacker looking motherfucker
of a dad who's going to and
not saying that he's got to be a pussy if he's white or anything
but I'm just kind of like painting
the picture sure in my head
about how awkward this could potentially
get and keep in mind I'm like 30
at this point and this girl's like
in her mid 20s I don't know
she still lived at home with her parents you know respect you live in the fucking middle of nowhere
in new hampshire you live with your parents it is what it is it happens i cycled into the parents
a couple times and i was in my mid-20s and so she like sneaks me into her room and we're kind of like
just hanging out and stuff and uh you know was it clear she was sneaking you past somebody it was clear
that her parents were sleeping in the same house and that it was like midnight and i'm just kind of feeling
guilty because i can almost like empathize with the parents a little bit more than myself at this
point in my life because i'm thinking you know like
What if this fucking dad walks in here and sees me sitting on the fucking bed hanging out with his daughter?
I don't know if he's going to try to fight me.
At the very least, this seems just like an overreach on my behalf because I'm a grown fucking man.
Why didn't I just get a hotel room?
I don't know.
It might be like 20 or 30 miles to the nearest hotel room.
But either way, at some point, I think her dad came down and, like, she avoided him seeing me.
She left, went out in the hallway and had a conversation with him that I'm assuming involved her.
admitting that she had a boy in her room, but he didn't come in to actually see me.
And then she took me out to her car and sucked my dick.
Well, actually, my mom's car.
She gave me head in the car.
Oh.
That's 30 years old.
Okay.
So it narrowly avoided a catastrophe.
Imagine this guy just beating the shit out of me.
Did you find out if he was white or black?
I never found out.
Oh, the mystery.
I think Tom Sagar, who had a good joke about this?
if you, if there's a half Asian chick or a half Asian guy and there's one white, one Asian parent,
it's never the guy who's Asian.
Yeah.
It's the case.
Asian guys get the short end of the stick, literally and figuratively in our society.
They just like kind of just are constantly demasculated and you get to, you feel bad for them.
Like, they need to be able to fight.
Yes.
To get that back, right?
That's why we need the return of Asian gangs.
I don't think there's enough.
They need to come down from like Northern California.
There's like a lot of mong gangs.
But I will say, I think Asian guys are kind of coming.
I think they're kind of blowing up.
I've heard a lot of girls recently tell me they think Japanese guys are really hot.
I train jujitsu.
And most of the guys at my gym are like athletic, strong, rich Asian dudes who have like tech jobs.
I think if a chick just, I mean, forget like fucking fishing at a Beverly Hills bar for a sugar daddy.
Just find an Asian guy on the street and suck his dick.
He's probably got a lot of money.
That's a fact.
If you live in a society that prizes, I don't know, being tough and menacing, that prizes having a giant dick, being an Asian guy.
Which, which are you talking about there?
I'm just saying, like, if you're in a society that prizes those things, being an Asian guy, maybe not the best.
But if you are in Palo Alto and you're in a society where you're respected for, like, you know, being smart when it comes to technology and having a.
lot of money and being able to make things happen in terms of business, then I assume being
Asian guys totally fine. Yeah, Asian guys out-earned. I mean, it's statistics. Asian people out-earned
white people in like every category. Really? Which, yeah, which is, it's strange when we talk
about equity and diversity, because white people now, I believe, are number three when it comes
to earnings after Asians and Indians. Really? And I mean, God knows we treated the Asians, not
as bad as we treated black people, but it was close.
It was fucking close.
I mean, the way we made them like, hey, so here's the idea.
See, these mountains?
Yeah.
We need a railroad to go through the middle of those mountains.
Right.
This is a basket, and this is a stick of dynamite.
I'm going to lower you down with some twine in the basket,
and you're going to blow up, do you know how this worked?
Wait, but they died as well?
This is how it worked.
they would to blow a hole in the side of a mountain to make way for the Union Pacific Railroad,
we would lower Chinamen down the face of a cliff in a little basket.
They would stick a stick of dynamite in a little slit in the rock, light it,
and then push themselves backward off the cliff face to get distance from the rock while the TNT blew.
I am not exaggerating.
That's what we expected them to do.
But were they like hanging?
only amount of time they got to be away from the dynamite was like, go.
Yes.
And then they had to like kind of swing back.
Yes.
Wow, that sounds rough.
Yes.
Like almost all of them lost an arm.
What?
There was that.
What else did we do to the Chinese that was awful?
I mean, a ton.
The internment camps.
I agreed with that.
Oh, really?
No.
Well, the thing is, I actually like, there were, I guess the reason that Pearl Harbor got
attacked as efficiently as it did is there really was an American, Japanese spy living in Hawaii
who sold that information.
to the Japanese. So I don't like
hate the idea. Like I know
it looks terrible now from our
multicultural lens what we did
but I mean at some point you got to be like
do we care more about offending a group of people or about
protecting our nation in a time
of war against horrendous
foes. I mean the Japanese
that any
group of people is capable of terrible terrible
things in the right pocket
of time and space. In the
1930s and 40s the
Japanese were about as bad as any group of people could ever be.
Right.
To other Asian people included.
So it wasn't like a strictly racist thing.
So they were so bad that we had to drop atomic bombs on them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, dude,
they would gamble on the sex of a baby inside a pregnant woman's belly,
like a Chinese pregnant woman.
And then they would cut her stomach open while she was still alive to see what sex the baby was.
So they didn't have to wait to find out?
Yeah.
They're busy, dude.
They got to invade the Philippines or something.
What the fuck?
Are you serious?
Yeah.
They would cut the baby.
the baby out just to settle the bet yes and they probably did a lot worse stuff than that too
what the fuck i just watched the uh world war two documentary on netflix like a four five six part
series i forget the newest one yeah i need to watch it i've watched all the old ones with all the
the colorized footage that it's absolutely unbelievable that they have access to all this footage but
then you want we watched the other day was uh killers of the flower moon you see this i haven't about
the uh as go i say it fucking the assage oaks oaks
sage, the Indians.
Man, they were doing some...
Back to gay porn, Donnie.
Thank you.
I'm sorry.
Deep beating your meat, Don't.
No, the Osage Indians.
You know about this, though?
No, tell me.
I don't know anything about that film.
So basically, like, the Osage Indians found a shitload of oil
under the ground on the land that they had been given.
So then this huge cottage industry of basically, like, white devilish businessmen
crop up in that area.
And they're trying.
Trying to basically...
What area was it?
It was in fucking...
In Oklahoma.
See, I watch a movie
and I forget every pertinent detail.
Like two days later, for some reason,
Donnie knows it without having to have any reason to remember it.
But anyway, so we fucking...
They're trying to basically separate the Native Americans from their money
by any means possible.
Sure.
So you have things like outside of the area
where the Native Americans are collecting their checks
for the money that they are owed.
They'll be guys like trying to take photos of them
with their family and they're charging them like $40 for a photo and shit.
Just basically like doing anything to basically appeal to the worst impulses of impoverished people
that have just been blessed with a large amount of money.
But then also on top of that, there's this whole network of doctors and businessmen and stuff like that.
Their basic racket is that they will get a Native American woman who has a huge amount of money
because of where the land that she was basically given or whatever,
and they'll have one of their guys fall in love with her
and then basically start working slowly to kill all of the members of their family
as well as the actual woman that they've fallen in love with
so that they are then able to basically inherit all these millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars.
It's a white guy who does that?
Yeah, and Leonardo DiCaprio is kind of like the main dude,
and they're basically like, he's like the most evil motherfucker ever.
and you're watching the whole movie
and it's like a really fascinating peek
into the mind of a truly evil person
because it's like very few times throughout the movie
do you really see them kind of like reckoning
with how horrible what they're doing
what they're doing is.
They're just sort of doing it
because it's just like what the boss man is telling them to do
and they're just doing it.
And he's like injecting his wife with poison
and fucking there's doctors working with them to give them poison
and it only kind of, they only get busted
because the feds get notified about how many.
people are dying in this area and it is a fucking wild movie i gotta i gotta recommend it's like
three and a half hours then they say it might be martin scroise's last film or at the very
least it might be the last film that he makes that has this sort of like 400 million dollar
budget that is like almost impossible to make back unless it's a fucking superhero movie
yeah that's interesting it's funny we we expelled the natives to oklahoma i'm assuming this is a
true story i'd never heard of this no yeah but uh then we're like oh shit there's oil there
fuck we send them to the wrong state let's go fuck them over in oklahoma and just find a way to do that
extra legally yeah movies is uh is the the days of jango one chained making 400 million dollars is that
over like the tom cruise in in uh whatever top gun and then barbie was like the last gasp of that
i mean you feel like you wonder that about our society in general like i know that the uh
the upenheimer thing did real good but in terms of just leaving the house it feels like
leaving the house is dramatically less popular than it used to be. And I even point outside to Melrose
when I say this, when I go back and watch the vlogs from 2017, and I realize that, like,
my business specifically maybe had a little bit of a different energy in 2017. And there were
people just really going out of their way to try to pull up. But when I watched those old
vlogs and I see how many people there were just walking around, it seems like a really stark
difference between these days where it just feels like going to Melrose and walking around.
Granted, it's Tuesday at like 1 p.m. right now, so it's pretty much not a time where anybody would be doing that anyway.
It just feels like it's just not as much of a thing. And I feel like people who go to nightclubs and stuff will tell you the same thing is that the nightclub scene in L.A. has not really recovered post-pandemic in the same way.
I wonder if the comedy scene is affected by this to any degree. I guess like comedy's probably pretty resilient because anyone who's a real fan of it.
You got to leave the house, right?
Yeah. I wasn't doing comedy before the pandemic really. I wasn't doing stand-up, so I'm not too sure.
Does the scene seem healthy?
Yeah. It does.
But the glory days was back the comedy store with Joe Rogan and all these fucking guys being in there all the time.
It feels like a lot of that energy kind of left at a certain point, right?
Well, I would say they say the romanticized period of stand-up comedy is the 80s.
I guess that was the total boom.
Then the 90s, there was a very famous dive in the industry.
And the idea behind that was because in the 80s.
80s, there were so many hucksters
setting up clubs and putting shitty comics up
that audiences started going out
and seeing bad comedy and then they
would never see a show again because they thought that's what
it was. In the 2000s,
that's my favorite era of comedy is the
early 2000s, just because of like
what was permissible to say back then.
You go watch a special from the early 2000s
and it's so shocking in a
hilarious way. But
I honestly think comedy,
I mean, the Netflix
and Hulu and Amazon
on Prime during the pandemic,
a lot of their biggest product
was stand-up comedy.
So I feel like stand-up is done pretty well
because watching stand-up comedy
is so fashionable these days
that obviously there's going to be people
going out and seeing
stand-up live because they see it on their screen.
Whereas like, when we were inside
for the pandemic and we learned to shop
online, I feel like just because
you bought a blouse on Amazon,
that doesn't make you want to run out and buy
blouse in a store like seeing a comic you like on screen makes you want to go see a comic live right
and like i mean the whole trend of everything in our society is kind of that you just don't really
need to leave your house and i'm reading this book that my publicist gave me uh for christmas that's
basically about the history of the porn business there we go back to the porn you probably saw
this coming yeah anyway it's it's just talking about you know all throughout the 60s and 70s
like sort of how this whole world came together because everybody was getting hit with like obscenity
lawsuits or being charged
with obscenity back in the 60s and 70s.
Right. But then, so
like a very
common thing in L.A.
was like there were bars
that pretty much appealed largely
to the porn community.
And I'm just reading about this in the book in the 70s
where all the famous
porn stars and all the people
that wanted to be around them and stuff, they would just kind
to go to the same bars every
night. And that to me
is so impossible
to imagine because people just stay home.
Every porn girl I know, what does she do on a Tuesday night?
She stays in the fucking house.
She's not going anywhere.
She might leave the house on a Friday or a Saturday to go to a party or go on a date,
some shit like that.
But like that impulse to leave the crib is very small in comparison to like, you know,
nowadays you can watch TV.
There's a million different things you can watch on TV.
A million different things are doing your phone.
Say you get into gaming.
There's a million different games that you could literally be entertained.
by playing for the rest of your life but then in comparison to that motherfucker you
finally decided to sit in my coffee right at the end of the podcast you piece of shit uh in comparison
that that just filled me with rage just seeing that fly to pull that move off but like in comparison
to that like in the 70s if you were just staying home if you're a single person on a Tuesday night
you're staying in there might be a couple of good shows on TV but realistically not that much
watch a TV kind of dismal experience.
You've got to leave the house.
You're going to call a bunch of your buddies.
Just call them, just talk to them on the phone for a while.
I mean, like, you're probably going to go meet up somewhere and hang out.
Now you can sit there and watch like a million different live streamers hang out.
You can watch Jack Doherty have more fun than you could ever have.
Shout out the Jack Doherty.
Him and I have collabed at the past.
I think in L.A., ironically, we might be less likely.
Though we live in this megatropolis with like 4 million people in the city limits,
we might ironically be more incentivized to stay in
because going out in L.A. is such a bitch.
The idea of finding a parking space
at a Best Buy right now
fills me with a nameless dread.
At a Best Buy. Yeah, just because if I go to a Best Buy in Westwood,
the Best Buy in Westwood,
probably I'm going to have to be hovering around
in a parking lot that's way too small
for anything bigger than a Fiat.
Well, I'm going to be dodging homeless people
and there's going to be a meter
where after five seconds, five minutes rather, I'm going to get a ticket.
So you live right in the middle of the shit.
I don't even know where there's a best by anywhere I live.
Like the best by,
we're lucky to still have a couple best buys in this Godforsaken city.
Yeah, I talked to some people in Sacramento,
some guys who worked at a Best Buy who were fans on my channel.
They said Black Friday is like dead now.
Nobody even goes out and shops for electronics.
I believe it.
But if you go to the mall on Black Friday or even like Christmas time or whatever,
sometimes you'll be deceived.
Go to the Topanga Mall around Christmas time.
You'll be like,
mall culture is alive and well i want to smack this motherfucker so bad but i know see if i even
begin to try to do it i got to get my salt gun yeah these flies must die the anti-aircraft gun but
there are certain times of year because i go to the mall a decent amount on the weekend with my
kid yeah just kind of go hang out for like an hour or two and the mall still has something going on
but it's it's not that impressive besides the few times of years where it's really cracking like
me even having the store is kind of like a bet or an investment
that going out in real life will slowly start to become more appealing to people.
But it does feel like that bet kind of flies in the face of all of recorded history,
where it seems like going out in person just slowly becomes less and less important to people.
Yeah. You're saying that technology only goes one way.
And now it's pretty clear that technology is made staying home more tenable
and that probably there isn't going to be an upswing or a reversal where people start.
going and doing in-person yoga classes.
I, for me personally,
I could never be fully secluded.
Like I, for instance, when I have a choice at the supermarket,
self-checkout or manned aisle,
I always take the mandial.
Let's interact.
Let's talk.
Yes.
Well, that's also that and I'm very lazy
and I don't want to bag my own groceries
and ring up my own shit.
It is kind of confusing.
Which is bullshit.
When I have a big cart full of shit,
the last thing I want to do was punch in a bunch of numbers
and scan a bunch of codes.
But I, yeah, I never mind that interaction.
I have PTSD of, like, scanning the loaf of bread
and then putting it in the checkout area
and then it telling me that this loaf of bread
does not weigh enough to qualify as a loaf of bread.
Who wants to deal with that?
That bothers me. I don't appreciate that.
Who wants to have the guy,
when you're buying a bottle of wine,
come over and check your ID and pull your wallet out.
Yeah.
Don't like it.
We actually, my squad and I,
we started going back to in-person meetings
at my apartment. We're trying to do something like office hours to bring us back together.
Right. Because yeah, dude, I'm over. If I have a day where I don't have to be anywhere,
which is rare, usually I have a podcast. I'm going to Jiu-Jitsu. I'm doing some stand-up.
But when I have a day where I just have nowhere to be, it just feels like you're in a,
it feels like you're in solitary confinement with no clock. And I need that punctuation of human
interaction. I'm pretty optimistic that you made a good investment with this store.
that things will go back to people wanting to interact.
It's just so intertwined with our species.
We need that.
No, and I encourage people because, listen, we live in a world
where you can literally wake up, sit up in bed,
prop a small pillow under your lower back,
and then flip open your laptop,
and just start working on your laptop,
answering emails, blog posts, working on YouTube,
watching videos, whatever it is,
all the stuff that you plan on doing for this day.
you can do that and I honestly did that throughout my early 20s like a significant amount of time
I think that's like the worst thing you can do if you really want to be someone who's going to get shit done in this world
you need a program you know you need to wake up get in the shower eat your breakfast go to a fucking coffee shop
it took me a while to realize this but when I was trying to be like a writer which was basically what I was
trying to do for a couple years before the YouTube thing kind of took off you know I used to like go to the
Starbucks and just post up with my laptop and just write on my laptop for three fucking hours
straight. A perfect bar spin must be treated like making the perfect cake.
This was the time period where I decided to stop doing content about BMX and try to
write and become somebody who could write about things outside of bike riding.
This didn't really work. I had to kind of turn to podcasting.
Well, now your pencil is your mouth and your paper is a podcast microphone.
And my asshole is the paper and Holly Day's tongue is the pencil as well.
You piece of shit. No, I'm with you. I still love.
working out in public. I'll still go to UCLA and use their libraries there.
Yeah, it's, dude, well, because their campus is in the middle of, like, the most valuable
real estate in Bel Air, overlooking, like, all these 1920s mansions and shit and beautiful
landscaping. It's... When I was staying in Hawaii, we stayed at this, like, resort. It's like a
big-ass hotel with, like, a shitload of places of a stand. It's right on the beach. It's super nice.
It's called Turtle Bay. And at one point, I'm, like, looking around the lobby. And I'm just
seeing a lot of young people like people in their
20s and shit and they're just like sitting
at various tables in the cafe area
and I just say to Lena
I'm like why
like like what you're telling me that
these girls who look like they're like 21
they're telling me that they're staying at this fucking expensive
ass hotel like where do you think these girls are coming
from she's like oh there's no way
that they're staying here they're just like girls from town
who just come here to just work on their laptops
because it's like a decent place to post up
and I'm like oh right
yeah I remember that I remember when I used to fucking
go out of my way to leave the house to just sit there on my laptop. Now that just doesn't feel
really like tenable because I feel like I would be a little bit too on edge that somebody was going
to try to kill me slash ask me for a photo, both of which I'm equally afraid of. Well, let's
go through this. I just, I posted up, I don't have the, maybe, I mean, some people really
don't like me, but there's no real threat of assassination. But I was just to the Melrose
Starbucks across the street. Which has traumatized. You've mentioned it multiple times.
I haven't been over there since we got back here.
You get in there, and I would say it's probably 50-50 housed and unhoused people at the seats and at the tables.
And you go in there, you buy your coffee, you're like, I'm a customer now.
I can use the bathroom.
Great.
That problem's taken care of.
You walk around the corner, there is a very foreboding paddlelock with a bunch of digits on it.
You round the corner, you ask, hi, while somebody's handling.
like scalding hot steam.
You have to ask them for the bathroom code.
And there's a line wrapped around the fucking counter.
They yell at you like a six-digit number.
And you walk over there, like trying to remember like,
I was a Pibonacci sequence.
What was that?
That she just yelled to me.
Okay, I think I can remember it.
I was born in that month.
You're like trying to work out in your head.
You can remember all these digits.
But then you see there's like already somebody in there.
And then there's a homeless guy in the line in front of you
waiting for the bathroom to open up.
He goes in there.
locks the door and he doesn't come out for 15 minutes.
Was he taking a shit?
Was he shooting a heroin?
Was he shooting heroin into his arm?
I don't know.
But either way, I just have to take a pee-pee that would last like three seconds.
And I can't because I'm in an inner-city Starbucks.
But the reality is that now you can just go outside and just piss on the street.
I'm on probation, so I can't.
Well, the cops just have so much going on.
Like my fear of taking a piss on the street in downtown Nashville, pretty serious.
because this is like a city that seems like people take the law quite serious.
Yes.
Even Midtown Manhattan, a lot of security, a lot of cops.
I would be a little bit weirded out by it.
Hollywood?
I mean, every man is on their own out here.
They got to fight for their ability to urinate.
And you know, you ever go to like a jack in the box and they have that lock on the door
in the bathroom and you say, what's the code?
And they say, one, two, three, four.
And you're like, oh, okay.
It's kind of a joke.
You guys made it as easy as possible.
Yeah, yeah.
You go to the Starbucks over here.
167
there's a Roman numeral
and like an exponent and shit
it's like impossible to figure out how to get in there
yeah I've been there before but I mean
I don't know I'm taking
my bet that retail
still has good days to come
I feel like you know people are just slowly
steadily and I don't know if I'm just being a little too
optimistic but I feel like people are slowly steadily
getting a little bit sick
of having to stay in the crib
all the time and they still crave outdoors
experiences. The problem is that you can get people to come out here if you're dropping a new
shoe, if you have an exclusive merch drop for special occasions, people kind of come out. It's a little
bit more complicated to get them to come out on a Tuesday at noon. That doesn't really seem
appealing to anybody. I'm sure it's better for you with this massive online platform. What do you
pay in a rent here? Sorry, COVID. I think $6,000-ish dollars, $6,500, something like that.
That's not that bad. Not a bad, right? I thought on Melrose, it would have been
minimum 10k probably closer to 20 when we moved here in 2017 we were paying 5 grand a month which
seemed like a lot compared to our downtown location where we were paying i think like 1200 a month
when we first got in there because it was the biggest piece of shit storefront ever i think we're
paying 5 grand for the the spot two stores over and then when when the pandemic hit or like actually
right before the pandemic hit when we decided that we wanted to leave they were actually trying
to get us to stay to the extent where they were offering it to us for i think
I think 4,000 a month.
So that was, you know, if you go five, six years in between, you're expecting the rent to go up.
But then it was the other way around.
But man, I was just, you see that the barracks went away?
They got rid of the barris?
The skate park, Steve Barrow and Eric Austin skate park.
No.
They said that their rent, when they got that spot in, I think 2012, 2012, 2013, something like that area.
Their rent on that spot was $18,000, which it is a huge fucking skate park.
Yeah.
To be fair,
indoor.
Where is it?
Gigantic warehouse.
I forget, I've been there back in the day.
I saw a Gucci Man concert there back in the day.
Is it downtown L.A. area roughly?
I feel like it's closer to the airport.
I forget.
I forget exactly where it is.
But 18,000.
And then they just recently had to end their lease.
The landlord was trying to get $105,000 a month for rent.
So your rent's only got to buy about $1,000.
Is that correct?
roughly. Yeah, over the course of seven years. Yeah, that's insane. I mean, with inflation alone,
even if your rent was like constant, you would think they would want like three or four extra grand
just to make up for that discrepancy. But that's the weird thing around here is that there's a lot
less foot traffic than there was in 2017. So the spots are a little bit less valuable. So the rent
is not going to necessarily go up as much as you would expect. But then at the same time,
so there's less foot traffic. So the spot is worth less. But then,
At the same time, every single spot on the street is full.
So it's like if you wanted to get a spot on Melrose, you're going to have a hell
of a time because every fucking spot is full.
That's why we ended up taking this spot.
We always saw ourselves making our comeback to Melrose and getting like a big spot
not happening.
Like fucking we ended up getting a spot that was smaller than the one that we had before,
which I think is fine because like ultimately we have enough space that everything will be fine.
But it's just like every spot is fucking.
taken on this block which now actually there's an opening you remember T rel his he had a store with
his wife down the street that one is now open kind of sucks because that was one that we really wanted
and i i knew that as soon as we got a spot that some shit would open up and we'll be able to get it but
the thing is is that that that's about big i'm guessing that's about 20 000 a month the big ass
spot it's got to be at least 15 so i mean that's a shitload so i'm kind of glad that we're paying
less over here i'll see if i can stretch it into my budget sell some danny mullin merch over there
let's do a Danny Mullen regime pop-up.
Let's do it.
Have everybody come by.
I couldn't tell if you were trying to end the podcast right there or not.
No, I tried to.
We can end it soon, but.
I heard you one time on a podcast,
slam some chick you were podcasting with.
I think you might have talked about it on Sledge Lords
because you were trying to wrap up
and she dove into a new subject
without reading you at all.
And it just enraged you and you fired her.
It's funny because I know the exact,
podcast that you're referring to and it was back in the very early days of me podcasting it was in like
2015 yeah and so it's probably not something that anybody would remember but yeah that that's something
in general that you kind of run into i've had brink baby do that to me a little bit we're doing
podcasts together where it's like i'm blatantly trying to wrap it up and then the the co-host is just
kind of like so what was it like getting into music yes you're just kind of like okay this is a
chronological podcast to a certain extent the end part is not going to be where we go back to the
very beginning of their career.
Yes.
So what was it like when you were in high school and you started getting into hip-hop music?
So losing your virginity, let's talk about that after you just interviewed a porn star for like an hour
and a half.
So hitting your puberty?
Did you have any attraction?
How big was your dick when you were 18?
I wonder how big my dick is sometimes before I hit puberty.
I wonder like if I could go back to eighth grade, it'd be pretty interesting to like, you know,
poke around.
Yeah, because I wish I had written more about my dick throughout my childhood because I remember
being a little boy and seeing my dad's dick and thinking that it was the biggest fucking
thing I'd ever seen in my entire life. Oh, yes. And then seeing it as an adult accidentally
and being like, oh, that's pretty regular dick. Definitely not what I remember seeing as a kid,
but your sense of scale is so different. The question that's demanded here is, when did you see
your dad's dick as an adult? Yeah, I can't remember. It might have been like changing for the
swimming pool, maybe a decade or two ago. Okay. Interesting. Fortunately, I have not seen my father's
penis since I was a wee lad, but I had the same experience. We should work on it.
I had the same experience that you're talking about, though,
seeing my dad's cock and it being huge.
But I, clearly I don't have a huge cock.
It's smaller than yours.
And the only evidence I have now that I've been able to piece together
about how big or not big my dad's dick is is we're,
my mom and I were watching comedy.
And my mom sometimes will try to say something like really dirty or like sexual,
I think is a means of bonding with me.
Because our conversations are always very, like, professional.
They're about football, about life or about where,
going for a family vacation.
So occasionally she'll see my videos and they're all filthy and she'll want to relate
to me on that level.
And there was a comment made in a stand-up special about big penises.
And it was already starting to get a little uncomfortable in the room, the subject
of Cox and just me and my mom.
And my mom goes, my dad, your grandpa, I guess he had a really big one.
Shut the fuck up.
And the subtext there is that my dad obviously doesn't have a really big one.
one or she would have said, you know, your father has a really big one because she wouldn't
have had to go up the family tree to my grandpa.
That's such like a naughty joke coming from a mom.
I mean, that's kind of a naughty joke coming from anybody.
If Donnie were to talk about somebody who's here and be like, I heard Stephen got a big one,
I'd be like, what the fuck, bro?
That's such a strange thing for you to know or tell me about.
But you'd appreciate it at the same time.
I mean, I'm a person who thinks that Dick related information should just be shared more
freely amongst people.
Oh, me too, dude.
But no, that's fascinating.
Because, okay, that book I'm reading about the olden days of the porn industry.
One part, they're talking about this guy who was a big porn star back of the day,
and they say you had a 13-inch dick.
And I mean, that's bigger than dread.
And I realize in that moment that in my mind, penises have been getting bigger over time
throughout history.
But there really is no reason to think that.
Like, if a guy could come out with a dread-sized cock in 2024, why could that?
why could that guy have not had that same dick
40 years ago, 100 years ago?
There's no reason to think dicks are getting bigger.
Yeah, I dispute that.
Let me ask you this.
It's on the subject of big dicks.
A girl that I was sexting with recently,
super, super respectable chick,
went to a really good college,
a professional type, which it's rare.
You know, around L.A.,
most of the chicks I meet don't have a career going.
They're usually prostitutes, essentially.
Essentially.
essentially. She, so there's like, you know, in the back of my mind, there's like, you know,
something good, serious could develop with this chick. Well, we're sexting one day, Adam,
around Christmas too, which makes it all the more disturbing. And she sends me a picture that a guy
took of her sucking this guy's dick, downward perspective. And he has the most fucked up cock
I've ever seen. It's like, it's probably knocking on the door of 10 or 11 inches, but it's
relatively thin.
Now, when you're 10 and 11 inches, you've got to have a little bit of girth.
It can't be a churro at that point.
So still, if this cock were six inches, it would probably be a girth monster.
But relatively, the dimensions are all fucked up.
But that aside, there is a 10-inch penis laid across this girl's fucking face.
And she sends that to me as if I will be turned on and think it's hot.
And so prior to this, you were thinking of her as maybe a potential future girlfriend?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Don't do that to a guy that you're thinking about getting serious with.
Jesus Christ.
I will argue don't do that to a guy who you just want to hook up with once.
Yeah.
It really, nothing, because even if you know the chick fucks other guys and is out there getting busy,
you want to suspend disbelief.
It's like watching a movie.
We know DiCaprio is an actor who lives up in the Hollywood Hills,
who is a complete degenerate who bangs 10 girls a night while wearing headphones and blindfolded.
We know that.
But when you watch Killers of the Flower Moon, you want to think he's an Oklahoma schemster trying to exploit an Indian.
And he is like 50 playing a 25-year-old, which is pretty impressive.
That too.
You know, he's aged well.
You've got to give it to children's blood will go a long way.
Yeah, he's fucking all these 19-year-old girls every night.
It's hard to get old when you're living that lifestyle, right?
This is all conjecture in case one of his legal representatives is listening.
I don't think that's up for debate that he's fucking young women, right?
That's kind of his whole deal.
You're right.
That's true.
But like the thing where he wears a blindfold and headphones, I've heard that from
enough like one source removed sources now.
Wait, seriously?
Headphones and a blindfold? That's what I'm hearing?
I mean, what's the point of fucking a bunch of hot chicks and then wearing a blindfold?
You get bored when you fuck that many young hot chicks.
So you're going to make it more boring by just staring into just nothingness?
I'm not the guy who does it.
I just question if he's the guy who does it as well.
Maybe it's like a deprivation tank.
How would you feel if your daughter ended up hanging out with Leo?
There are worse choices, I suppose.
I mean, it could be a lot worse.
I kind of feel like I would rather her like be.
dating like the worst random guy her age than dating a guy who blatantly has like a fetish
for younger girls and is like basically soulless and emotionless at this point because he's
fucked so many of them already yeah and the problem is too you got to think that being in a
relationship with decaprio and then getting kicked to the curb when they turn 24 and 363
days and that's that's best case scenario if you make it more than a couple nights with this guy
that's fucking you've you've officially gotten a commitment out of him
How do you feel about this statement?
Boosie said about his daughter.
He said this to her, to her boyfriend.
He said, you could cheat on her.
Just don't beat on her.
Those were his words of caution to him,
which I totally understand where he's coming from.
You cheat on her, break her heart, whatever.
That's fair play.
That's what happens in relationships.
You're young.
You're going to cheat on a girl.
A lot of guys cheat is what it is.
If you beat her, then I got to get involved.
She can't, she can't, you know, avenge this in the way that you would probably want, right?
Now, even the point I'm out in my life, it might be a situation where I say, hey, Donnie, you've got to go track down this 15-year-old boy and beat the shit out of him.
Turn off the gay porn.
Get out there.
You can use my car.
Go find this guy, beat his ass.
I don't know.
And I don't want to be put in that position either.
Damn, dude.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know his background, but it just makes me.
He's been charged with attempted murder.
and ordering hits on people specifically.
Yeah.
I mean, it just makes me think that his childhood
was rough enough to the point where...
That's the binary in a relationship.
There's only two real options.
Like, it's all flowers and rainbows and wedding bells
if there's just cheating and no beating.
Yeah.
It makes me wonder, like, Tyreek Hill
is the wide receiver for the dolphins, like huge star.
He is convicted for beating the shit out of one of his girlfriends.
Really?
And I guess he's, like, knocked up two chicks
since he's been engaged to the chick that he's now married to.
But really like the beating,
it just seems like beating is so accepted in some rungs of society that it's really crazy.
Like, I mean, it's, you get beat up in prison, though, for doing it.
But it's so commonplace, like in the NFL, for instance.
Yeah, talk to Rat Dick Ralph about that.
I feel like you, but he's going to get beat up either way, right?
That's true.
Yeah, a punching bag.
But I feel like I hear a lot about how, like, child malignant.
Lester's are going to get beat up in jail.
And I think if you were some sort of like serious rapist for sure, too, I don't know that like
the guy who, you know, was beaten on his girl and like happened to fucking cracker skull.
I don't know if that guy's necessarily going to get that much attention behind bars.
Now, certainly it's not like a respectable crime in the same way that like if you were a gang
member and you are in prison because you were shooting at some guy that you don't get along with.
People are going to look at that and think, oh, he's a real one, whatever.
I don't know.
Like I think a lot of that shit is overstated about like the more.
moral code that is imposed on you when you're in prison.
Yeah. All I know is for my stay in prison, the guys really hated child molesters.
That came up, even though I was only in there for like 18 hours.
And then I know about rat dicks experience.
But what bothers me the most about like beating on chicks, which I would never even dream
of doing because like, I mean, I think you and I probably came from households where that
was like out of the question.
If I felt the need to hit the girl, I got to get out of there.
Yes.
In the short term, I need to just leave the house.
Yeah.
In the long term, unless we can kind of fix whatever that was, I think this is probably the time for us to end this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The sad thing, though, is like, is it kind of seems like, like, I haven't really heard too many stories about a guy beats the shit out of his girlfriend and she immediately calls the police and leaves him.
It seems like to the contrary, like, beating a chick seems like a decent way to keep her around.
Maybe in the short term.
But doesn't it seem like that, though?
it seems like the chicks who get beat up, like Ray Rice is married to the chick, he
caoed in an elevator.
But you got to imagine that those girls.
Von Miller's chick recanted and like refused to testify against him after, I mean,
he was just fucking playing in a playoff game.
Like he was just, he was just pass rushing, dude.
He was rushing the QB.
I'll say this is I've known a lot of couples over the years where it seemed like the
abusing each other thing was like a pretty, you know, it was kind of like mutual combat.
They had sort of agreed upon.
And like, oh, this is just something we're going to do.
We're going to beat the fuck out of each other from time to time.
And, you know, my relationship certainly is not like that.
I've definitely, like, severed friendships.
They're not, like, real friendships.
But there was, like, a dude that used to be around me a decent amount.
And then I had a birthday party one year.
And everybody's doing coke and getting super fucked up.
And I was off in sex land, having some sort of crazy through some scenario going on or whatever.
And it was a big house.
So I didn't realize on the other side of the house, this guy's beating the shit out of
his girlfriend.
Ooh.
And then I end up hearing about it.
It definitely turned me off to really, like, being around this guy too much after that.
Yeah.
I wasn't really, like, keen on inviting him to parties after that.
That just seemed like, okay, you're somebody who clearly can't handle their cocaine.
Yeah.
Or, I mean, if you're going to beat the shit out of your girlfriend, at least do it in the
guest house, okay?
Not in the other wing.
Get your own hotel room.
Sure.
Anyway, all right, I got to interview a gang member, I guess you could say, after this.
Oh, you're saying I'm not gangster?
I'm just saying that, you know, I don't want him to come up in here and beat the dog shit out of you.
It's forced you to apply a rear naked choke.
I don't want to do that either.
I'm not stretched out for the morning.
Oh, yeah.
He'll get you stretched out.
I'm going to get raped, too.
Danny Moll.
We should do this more often.
Yeah, man.
We got to keep Sledge lords in the Roto.
Maybe not weekly, but quarterly.
Monthly, something like that.
Let's jump on, do some pods.
Yeah.
Let's get it in.
Let's get it in, baby.
I like it.
Just like Holly and I got her tongue into your filthy.
You read my mind.
I was about to say that, too.
asshole all right appreciate you Danny Mullen no jumper sludge lords we out out
