No Jumper - Danny Mullen on Catching His First Felony, Adam Banging his Girl & More

Episode Date: January 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:06 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And I decided I had to tap back in with my man, Danny. I just noticed a fly. So that might be part of the narrative. Wait, man, the fly narrative. In this pod, yeah. Wait, this isn't Sledge Lords?
Starting point is 00:00:20 I mean, I don't know. This is Sledge Lords, dude. I feel like I'm like interviewing you, but it's hard to tell. If we're podcasting, it's Sledge Lords. Okay. It doesn't have to be weekly anymore, but it's still Sledgelords. SEL forever. S.
Starting point is 00:00:32 And a lot's gone by. A lot's happened since we did the last SL. A lot has happened. It's been like six months, eight months. I can't remember. Your birthday came and went along with a big birthday bash. You did this last weekend and I was there. That's true.
Starting point is 00:00:48 You took advantage of a woman at my party. We're going to talk about that. I had a lot of interactions with a lot of women. And I can't definitively deny that claim. But I still think you're an hour for airing it out here on the podcast. I'm just kidding. Because I was actually with her yesterday and she did mention it. And she mentioned that,
Starting point is 00:01:06 hate to let the audience down. But she mentioned that you did not master. Bam! Bam! So that's good. I still, we can't say definitively that I didn't anybody that night because I came in contact with a lot of women. But if you did, she doesn't know about it. Who is this person? The woman? Yeah. Delilah. I don't even know what Delilah. Delilah is an adult star who's kind of known on Twitter. She considers herself to be at the forefront of reply girl technology.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And this is like something that has existed throughout YouTube history and internet history. But on Twitter, anyone who tweets anything, she will quite often show up in the replies and say something scandalous, exciting, interesting enough that in theory, you will sign up for her only fans because you'll want to see this extremely annoying person who just showed up in the DMs. You'll want to see them get... So you went to the party and apparently she doesn't drink a whole lot and she had a few beverages. Yeah. And so Danny Mullen ended up actually carrying her home with the assistance of her three friends, which I think is good because you really don't want to be the guy carrying the drunk home. Okay. But if a bunch of her friends are there and you're just sort of acting as like, you're like the tone of the situation, you're the hired muscle that's able to sort of like get this girl home.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Sure. But you weren't actually planning on her passed out corpse, which I think is really cool. And I wasn't planning on it, but I did anyway. And you're right, though. When I go home with the friends, it's like, because if you go, if you take a chick back solo, like, come on, no, I got to do this. I got to make her, am I going to make sure she's safe? And then you, you prance off like wily coyote.
Starting point is 00:02:51 That's alarming. Right. But I was with three other girls who are getting this girl home. And I want people to know because right now, I get a brand to protect. I don't want to sound chivalrous. I was definitely going home with those three girls in order to get from the one. who were still awake. My concern was not with the passed out girl,
Starting point is 00:03:10 who sounds lovely, by the way. Right, and also, what are the odds? Maybe she awakens from her slumber and decides that she wants to take advantage of you. Oh, well, she doesn't sound like she'd be opposed to that sort of thing. Were you drunk at my party? I was hammered. I stayed up till 6.30 a.m. the night of your party.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Did you? Yeah. And you're trying to convince me that you weren't doing COVID? I wasn't. dad doesn't really bear out to me because I was at that party as well and by two o'clock I was done now granted I had been up since like seven in the morning I'm not sure exactly what time you're getting up but by two o'clock and I was smoking a lot of weed and I did not drink at all I was fried people were coming up to me and just like saying happy birthday saying good night and I was just like
Starting point is 00:03:55 unable to process absolutely anything that was happening to me it was it was a frying experience Well, listen, buddy, you should have taken some time to step back and smell the roses. Yeah. Because I was there to celebrate one of the biggest business years of your life. And I was happy for you. And that's the only drug I needed to get me through to 630 a. Happiness for my buddy, selfless happiness. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:04:22 That was a good time. It's like ancient history, though. Now I feel like the party is so in the rear view because there were so many, like, different narratives that carried out from it. there was the narrative about Crip Mac not getting invited, which seems like ancient history, because Crip Mac is now locked in a federal prison, or L.A. County Jail, but awaiting federal prison, I've heard federal prison is better than L.A. County Jail, by the way. I believe that there might be a little bit less gang-based brawling. Like, once you go to the federal prison, you sort of just click up with your race and you're
Starting point is 00:04:52 together. That's confusing for PURTMAC. Like, who's Crip Mac going to be with? The Samoans? Is there a lot of them? No, he's probably just with the black guys. for sure doesn't he say the N word he basically he's black he's black and Samoan
Starting point is 00:05:06 yeah he's hanging with them yeah yeah for sure but yeah so that was a fun art I just actually found out about the whole thing about you carrying this girl home but I forgot to ask her yesterday she was on plug talk yesterday yeah it's weird how that became the narrative what happened to that night is the three
Starting point is 00:05:22 friends and I went to the party of another big L.A. YouTuber not the party the house of another big L.A. YouTuber who we can't name. Right. And I heard it was some sort of like devilish, he type vibe going on. An or something might have taken place in a pool. Some little nausea. And that's gay stuff, right? Well, but also satanic. Satanic and gay. We did not bring, well, I was going to say we didn't bring extra into the scene, but we had extra war presence. It was like you. You were involved in an
Starting point is 00:05:52 yeah. How many girls did you throughout the course of this? I, so this is what happened. I, I had with one. And it might have even been shut the fuck up. How would you not know? It was definitely what? And then another man joined the affair and at one point I attempted to bring another
Starting point is 00:06:16 girl in or actually let me that sounds. And he was like no no no the other guy he was like no no no no it's just me and you. I'm imagining I'm being like a big Pakistani immigrant But like fully on testosterone and wearing a Gucci shirt unbuttoned. Yeah, well, when we postmated the Red Bull, he was the guy who brought it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So we're like, fuck out, buddy. You've officially partied too late if you have to postmate some Red Bulls to the crib. We're all out of cuck, so we have to postmate some Red Bull. We weren't doing, which is why we needed it. But I did try to do something shady. I had the guy who I brought into the picture, I told him like, hey, take the girl we've been hooking up with upstairs, have some fun up there. I'm going to see what's going on with her friend. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I was in the process of recruiting her friend into the pool. Uh-huh. But the underlings of this certain celebrity in Los Angeles, the underlings blocked. Really? Kind of like his Hurley and his mic. Those guys just sort of were buzzing around like flies. Distracting from my, it was going down otherwise.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Right. See, that is an awkward position to be in because I feel like in an environment like that, if you work for someone and that someone is, let's say, you know, courting women or, you know, providing an atmosphere for women. Yeah. You certainly, I think, are allowed to dabble with the merchandise. Yes. But you really don't want to be like the aggressor in that kind of situation. Like basically I'm saying if, let's say you are P. Diddy's assistant before he was exposed for having all these freaky things going on or whatever. Your assistant. You're his assistant. It's like you never want to be perceived as taking away from the ringleader, the ringmaster, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Now you can get phone numbers. And I see the way that various people who work for me kind of play this because there'll be a lot of porn stars around. And obviously, like maybe they're shooting content with me and maybe you're the guy who runs the camera and you start to have a little vibe with one of the girls. You're thinking like maybe I can fuck this girl too in a couple weeks. and I see them sort of like treading lightly, wanting to get her contact information, follow their Instagram, maybe send a DM,
Starting point is 00:08:34 but they don't want to necessarily try to be like unseating. They don't want me to feel away about it, but they also know that I'm probably not going to remember who this girl is in two weeks. And so therefore, they have to tread lightly, but not too light. Yeah, it's,
Starting point is 00:08:49 that's like with anything in life, if the guy has the chops to pull it off, it's immediately not offensive. Like, if your camera guy is, smooth and relatively good looking, you probably wouldn't have a problem with it. But when he starts creeping out a girl who you've worked with multiple times,
Starting point is 00:09:05 we've got an issue on our hands. Exactly. Creeping out is the line that you definitely don't want to get to because as soon as you start to be the guy who's the filmmaker or the sweeper, the broom guy, or the t-shirt sorter or whatever. You just don't want to be seen as
Starting point is 00:09:21 the one who's making the girls feel weird. But then at the same time, you have to realize almost every guy, once they start consuming alcohol, becomes a little weird. Yeah. Like, you start to kind of get into the territory of not really acting the right way. Almost always. Almost anybody a couple drinks in is acting a little weird.
Starting point is 00:09:42 These guys, though, they weren't, they didn't have, because we all know the creepy Uber driver who tells girls like, oh, you know, this is not my real job. Like, I am music producer. Like, these guys, though, that were blocking me didn't even have the creepy camera guy, boom mic, grip energy. They had just, like, never seen a guy really get... Seemed like. They were so
Starting point is 00:10:04 in their growth as Coxman that they were just watching from around the corner like they were cavemen seeing fire for the first time. So it was even, like, more of a cock block, if that makes sense. Because there were voyers, like peeping tombs looking at me through the
Starting point is 00:10:20 shrubs of the backyard. No, but so was that the end of the... action or how did that it's almost hard for me to understand how this even worked in it and how you were able to just show up and just be part of the i started the old my man oh so you show up at a regular party and then you initiate the group it was like 3 a m but and then the girls that we came with were like the the initial kind of the initiators you brought the sluts that dude that's the thing about your party i met them at your party and your party like it is it is the mecca
Starting point is 00:10:56 for a guy like me who's got a job that's kind of repellent. I don't think it could be Mecca if it was like a party that only existed once and realistically might not even happen in the future. I feel like we need to think of a better metaphor. Yeah, Mecca, there weren't too many women there in full burqas. I didn't see any men on their knees. Some women on their knees, perhaps. I did see a girl with a bo-go-up her ass doing like a go-go dance right next to me.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Wait, seriously? Yeah. Wow, that's awesome. Because there's this one girl, Gia Durza, that I've been talking. trying to shoot with Lennon with for a while and like she gave me head one time back in the day like on some random shit and I was talking to her at the party and I said hey gee you should come on plug talk sometime she literally like lifts her leg like a dog and pulls her ass cheek up and scoots her underwear to the side revealing a in her butt and says okay but can we do anal and I'm just
Starting point is 00:11:49 like uh-huh and at that moment I was like okay my brain is not completely fried because I'm very much entertaining this proposition. But, okay, there's a problem. She was wearing a bag like it was an everyday garment. This chick is an anal legend. She's like so known for anal that I'm pretty sure she has again like at the dentist's office. Like it's just her way of life. Where do you rank her versus Adriana Chechick?
Starting point is 00:12:14 Another anal legend. To be honest, I haven't done anal with either of them. But from what I understand, they're probably like similar. Like they're both black belts. Oh, maybe it. Adrian Chichich might be approaching coral belt. I don't at least red wait you really go from black to coral you can go coral my years is coral take coral takes nigh a lifetime I think Gia's probably got a lot of coral
Starting point is 00:12:34 there ass literal coral literal coral she went out buggy boarding and some just broke off and floated up there but it was kind of awkward okay because I mentioned Gia showing me her butt plug a couple different times to Lena Lena doesn't normally get insecure about the threesome and the me or the girl stuff a little bit of insecurity because of the fact that she is just not an anal warrior the way that some of these other girls are you could call her a blue belt lena has a blue belt in in anal yeah i'll give it to her because she's she's we've done it very we've really done it a bunch of times and we've done it on camera but as she gets older i feel like it just kind of becomes like more and more of a thing where she just
Starting point is 00:13:17 doesn't really like enjoy the the prep the eating gummy bears for 24 hours in the lead up to it is that what you're supposed to do some porn girls take it that far. I don't think 24 hours. But I think like you might, you might not eat anything but gummy bears from like, you know, 8 p.m. the night before until the scene. What if they just don't eat anything, period? I think not eating anything period would probably be fine too, but I guess the gummy bears kind of fulfill a little bit of that. It seems like that would turn your poop into a sticky, diureic sludge. I would love to actually see, imagine your finger on the ass and then just a bunch of gummy bears start coming out with it,
Starting point is 00:13:54 just pure gummy bears. way. Somebody showed me recently the clip of Lena Rhodes getting rubber ducky shoved up her ass. I didn't know about that. That's a clip. I guess Holly Day showed me this. I want to talk about that too, buddy. We got to talk about that. Because you were talking about Lena getting jealous of you and
Starting point is 00:14:09 chicks. You did your first solo. Was that ever? Or just in a long time? Second ever. Lina Rhodes Holiday showed me got, I guess, 20 rubber ducies. Shut the fuck up. Small rubber ducies, I'll admit. And I didn't see all of the video. So I
Starting point is 00:14:25 can't confirm. I wasn't tally marking or moving over the beads on abacus as each duck disappeared in the rectum. But Holly Day said 20 duckies, and I saw three come out because she shits them all up. Adam is frantically Googling this as we speak.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Lana Rhodes shows off her very talented asshole. It's on a porn hub with 7.2 million views. Top comment says, poor Mike. You know, because Mike name like that they're a But it says that the top, one of the other top comments says,
Starting point is 00:14:59 watching her squeeze the rubber ducks out of her ass was so high. I honestly didn't even know that that existed. But do you feel a little creepy watching that, knowing that she resents her entire porn career and hates the fact that this content is still online? Like, I'm sure that Jules Jordan, who's a legitimate businessman who's been making porn for all these years, he's probably been hit up by our multiple times asking him to remove this content from Pornhub. And it's probably just a hard no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Yeah, I mean, I think you know what you're doing once the second rubber ducky goes up there. The first one. I'm testing the waters here. But, I mean, you got to know, like getting into this career, the porn career, that is a, that's an all-in decision. And it's, yeah, I mean, it's, I do feel bad sometimes because girls get into it when they're 18. Yeah. And I'm glad that I didn't have the ability to do anything life-changing and permanent when I was team just for the reason that
Starting point is 00:15:55 I mean nobody was going to pay me to get on camera that's probably not true probably somebody would have changed nowadays I feel like there's got to be some pay pig out there who wants to get you putting stuff in your ass and I actually think there's a pretty large market for me putting my ass on camera right here
Starting point is 00:16:11 you I'm one participant yeah how big of a check would let me ask you this because we had you had holiday on plug talk who I like because her name sounds like both holiday and Hollandease sauce. Holly Day.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Hollandees. Is that what you put on an Eggs Benedict? Yes. Okay. I do like Eggs Benedict when I'm hung over. I don't know what it is, but it tastes good. I don't know if I'd like to fuck Holiday when I'm hung over. That sounds overwhelming.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But you mentioned to me, you asked me when we were on the Plug Talk couch, what it would take for me to double team a chick with you on camera. And I want to ask you this. If you were the check cutter, the money man for a plug talk scene involving me, you, in some female talent of our choice, what kind of check would you cut me to do my porn debut? See, we don't normally pay the performers.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I know. This time you do, though. Okay. They put it on their only fans. It's a content trade situation. This is different. You're asking me how much we would be able to pay you if you were to actually... I really don't know. I don't know, like, how many people are out there
Starting point is 00:17:18 that want to see this kind of thing. I mean, maybe, like, we could afford to get... you a couple thousand bucks but i don't know i mean i almost feel like i would rather just pay swelby q for two reasons you for two reasons a couple thousand i mean like what is it really worth like that that's normal porn rates dude i think if you i'm not a normal porn star i know and i feel like in a lot of ways you might be less valuable no normal porn dude i put asses in seats i put eyeballs on screen. If you and I, here's the problem, there would be a large contingent of my fan base who would probably pirate it. That would be the main downside. But I think of the people who watch sledge lords,
Starting point is 00:18:07 I still get hit up by a lot of people about sledge lords. It's got, I don't know if you've seen that, but I feel like it's got a cultish following. Yeah. I feel like they would pay premium prices, maybe up to $100 ahead to watch you and I throat insert name here. Okay, let's take you out of the equation. I don't like that so far.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Let's say that I got Brendan Shob's porn debut. Oh, man. How much is that worth? More than mine. How many fans of his who know about him, hate him, love him,
Starting point is 00:18:39 how many people are really going to show up to watch him? I don't really think it's that high a percentage. Even if you were to go like to some of the most popular creators Kyle from Nelk. How many of his fans really want to see him? I don't know. I think a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I think probably a decent amount. I think the hierarchy there is definitely Kyle at the top, bread and shop number two. Me number three, I'll be humble in that regard. But I'm curious, the industry of only fans, I'm wondering, have you seen any decline in the amount of revenue that women are able to command?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Well, for us, like since, well, I've only been, doing plug talk for like two years. But that being said, I believe that the pandemic was the high point for all porn creators. Like things got really out of control when people had that much time to be at home beaten off and tons of new girls were getting into it. I assume that there's some degree of that, but I don't really know that much about how much individual girls have had their paychecks kind of degrade over time. You would think that dudes on average would get a little bit more particular as time went by, but I'm not really sure. I haven't really looked into it. But let's talk
Starting point is 00:19:45 about your girlfriend licking my butthole i was already close to walking out of here as it was holly do you bring that shit up like it and that's disrespectful a little of a tone how many times if you get sex with holly should i be honest here yeah only because i feel like she wouldn't care but um a couple of times nice that's dope you like that's a good number couple that's two especially since i know you have a refractory period of like multiple days like a koala bear or something. You're basing this off nothing, first of all. I have a refractory period of like a couple of weeks because this is how I work.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I'm usually pretty head down focused on my work, but then I will be overtaken by like a fever of lust. And for a couple of days, I just all I can see is the color pink. See, that's me all the time. It's distracting. Prior to my relationship and everything. I used to be on a pussy mission every night of my life and sometimes during the day. Yeah, well, also, it's easy to get pussy out of your system when your job is to fuck it three times a week.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Women other than your wife. Now it's different, but I'm just saying, like, back when I was a single man running around these streets, it was, it took its toll on me. Yeah. Mentally. No, definitely. Because everything about chasing pussy is at odds with productive things in your life. Usually what goes hand in hand with chasing pussy, drugs and alcohol, terrible hours, spending money. It's like the antithesis of success.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's the last thing a man trying to make something of himself should become obsessed with. There are some upsides to it. So your girlfriend was on her knees giving me head on that plug-tock couch. And I start to do a little... I will throw this in your face right now. I started to do a little motion. It's about 80 degrees. Start to lift my leg.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And she thinks that I'm trying to get her to sit on top of me and ride my day. Yeah, what were you actually trying to do? I'm not. I'm trying to get my ass licked. I don't know if you forgot, but I told you beforehand. that I was going to go in the bathroom and it actually ended up on your Patreon, pause. But I took the baby wipes and I was jamming the baby wipes halfway out my asshole because I was really trying to make sure that I had a nice clean area for her to tongue down.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And she did. So it was very nice of her. It hurt enough when you actually did it in person, but you bringing it up now is completely uncalled for and over the line. I also feel like I might have kissed her more than I've ever kissed a girl that I did a scene with just because, I don't know, ass-licking, plus the fact that I knew you were in the other room. Trying to get in, desperately.
Starting point is 00:22:22 You had to move the Coke machine to block the door. No, it was a fridge, but I jiggled the fridge and moved the fridge right in front of the door so that you wouldn't be able to get in. Listen, do you want to catch these fists outside? Do you want to get these bony paws on your chin? I'm trying to help Holly win. I'm trying to make sure that Holly blows up further through licking my asshole. It's crazy that that works.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I appreciate it. Thank you, because there's going to be some trickle-down money if she's my new her mama but you don't have to keep rubbing it in my face like she rubbed her face in your asshole on friday it's a dick move bro if you're at the point in your life where you and holly are able to you know you're able to tolerate her porn career and then she's able to tolerate the fact that you will fuck some other girls from time to time and you're able to like have that kind of relationship where she'll just come over and be able to spend time with you satisfy you whatever in that regard i think you should lean into that and i don't think you should let
Starting point is 00:23:16 the fact that she was tongue deep in my asshole, I don't think you should let that stop you from enjoying her company. It's the lingo, Adam. It's tongue deep in my, did you have to paint that vulgar picture for us? You could have said, you could have just said, don't let the fact that I received analingus distract you. Though even that, it's hard to describe ass looking in any way that's flattering, okay. So say I was doing, I consider myself very good to this. I take a lot of pride in this. Let's say that I was in a cafe with a couple other industry people. I don't like where this is going, but okay. We were talking about shooting an ass-eating scene.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. I would call it a rimming scene. I would say the rim scene. That's better. Well, we all have all these different words. It's a talent instead of, you know, massive dicked male. Yeah. You say, like, you know, all these different things that we've created so that we can kind of talk about it in mixed settings without having to seem offensive.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Sure. And I wish you would have used that lingo when you were speaking. to me about Holly Day, but you chose not. I think it was a conscious choice. I feel like you're turned on by her porn career. I feel like you belong in the cut club with me and Destiny and Sneak-up. Do you want to join? That's good company, man.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I wouldn't hate that. What is the communication that you've had with your ex-girlfriend? What's going on with her? So her- Fully over? So her and I, we didn't talk basically all of the summer. Oh. And that really hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:40 like yeah like it didn't feel good when there was like absolutely no communication between us at all I feel that um but then we we started kind of we resumed talking on a on a friendly basis in the fall and that made me feel a lot better I guess just when there's the idea that there's somebody out there who detests you to the point where they won't even speak to you that and especially when it's somebody you cared about that can be sad how did you guys how did you guys get to the point of her detesting you? Was it the beating and the... It was the beating.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It might have been, yeah, the me standing up in a restaurant after like six scotches and calling her a whore. Wait, that happened? No. Just imagining a Hollywood blowout. Right. Some producer and his cheating wife, you fucking whore. But did
Starting point is 00:25:34 it really got to that point where she despised you? What did you do to earn this? You know, it was like, um, so we we were I'm trying to even remember now it's been so long but we broke up
Starting point is 00:25:48 then we started hanging out again and the feelings kind of rekindled in the spring but then some things happened very minor things like our relationship was never about big blowouts and screaming and like cheating or anything like that though you mentioning on a podcast once that a YouTuber
Starting point is 00:26:05 his girl cheated for 10 grand everybody assumed that was me and her I know and I was totally talking about somebody else and I've read hell a comment saying that it was about you and it was about this other dude that you don't even know. Yes, that was not Mia. And I want to say that for her because she got like bombarded with those comments. She was super faithful. That was not her. And you had to tell her Adam was talking about somebody completely different. I did. Yeah. Well, I'm sure she like knew that you weren't telling me that she was prostituting herself. Like, why would you make that up? That would be weird.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Well, you know, if I was bitter, if I was really bitter when she wasn't talking to me, I can see somebody doing that. But I actually just told her. I just explained that to it. her like a couple of weeks ago. But we, we had some sort of disagreement once we kind of were getting back together. And then I think I unfollowed her on Instagram, which pissed her off. And I was doing that because the feelings were still there. It just, it was hard to see her like in my feed. That's why I did it. And like, I explained that to her over text and she didn't respond to it. It could be hard for me to see her in my feed as well, because sometimes I'll be scrolling through. Because you feel guilty after you wipe the jizz off your screen.
Starting point is 00:27:11 No, I'll just be tempted. I'll, like, consider it for a second. I'll be like, maybe I should beat off to this. Maybe I should click the bookmark button. But I will be scrolling through and I'll see a picture of her and just be thinking some random only fans, girl. And then I'll, like, glance at the name and be like, ah, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Thank you. Thank you. After all the anal comments. I mean, that's your actual X. So I can't. Yeah. But, I mean, Holly, she's playing the game. She's an actress.
Starting point is 00:27:37 She's playing the game. I'm still hopelessly in love with her And it's every cock she takes Is a dagger in the heart But would you actually be able to date her Or is the whole like fucking dread multiple times thing Is that is that fucking it up for you currently? You know her having sex with dread
Starting point is 00:27:53 And then me having sex with Holly Day If anything that made me feel better about myself Because Just to even be considered as a sexual object After that fucking full grown Anaconda slithered into her pussy made me feel less self-conscious about my penis. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm not really in the place where I want to date anybody right now. And I don't know. And I don't think I would not do the, I would not be able to date a porn star. Yeah. Yeah. It's not for the fan at heart. I feel like a lot of guys probably don't have the fortitude.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. People talk, because when people tell me like Adam 22 is a cook, Danny, why are you hanging out with him? I'm just like, clearly Adam has. the kind of mental wiring where he's able to do that and still be perfectly happy and clearly he's a fucking super
Starting point is 00:28:45 high level guy. So who are you to judge him from wherever you are in your own life? Which I guarantee you aren't living your terms in the way that you aren't living your life on your terms in the way that he is. It seems so strange to me for someone to actually
Starting point is 00:29:01 be like angry about the whole cuck thing because I totally understand the teasing, the making joke the, oh, this is funny. We're going to exploit this for the LOLs. But I don't really understand the people who are, like, mad about it. In the same way that if I found out
Starting point is 00:29:17 that Donnie over here was secretly sniffing around with some dudes. Would I hate him? I would have been mad at him. Would I think it was pretty funny? They're like, oh, okay, he's a little zesty. He takes a walk on the wild side from time to time. Of course, I would think it was funny.
Starting point is 00:29:34 But I'm not going to be, you know, that's your choice. What you want to do behind closed doors. And for the record, Donnie, as far as I'm concerned, has a spotless record of heterosexuality. But I think there's a couple of poop stains on that record. We don't know. We're still looking into it. I will say, though, Donnie right now, his posture at the computer chair, he's got the posture. He points at his ring.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Well, it's California. Gay marriage is legal, buddy. I haven't met your wife, but it could be a dude. We don't know. Donnie, you do have the posture of a guy looking up gay porn right now. And that's just your posture. And it's from behind, too. All I see is his head sticking up over the computer chair.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Imagine we looked over there one day, and the guy who's, like, running the podcast also was, like, multitasking, watching gay porn. Well, in our case, he'd probably just be Googling something we told him to Google. Hey, hey, Google Performer X is cock. I want to see how I stack up. Do you think that the fans watching at home are annoyed by the fact that we've been talking about sex for a half hour? Or you think that they're all right? I am optimistic, and I think that people like it when we podcast enough of they're probably, they're down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I think they're probably down. People have missed Sledgelords. Yeah, that's true. Okay, other other things that I wanted to discuss aside from Holly day Licking my asshole like a like a Tutsi pop Yeah, Lenin wasn't around for that one. That was a little spicy. Yeah, how did that feel to go home? Did you feel a little guilty? I didn't even mention anything about it to her I didn't say a word to her about it and then finally like two days later she goes
Starting point is 00:31:03 So how was Holly you didn't say anything about it? You didn't say a word you didn't tell me one? I didn't say a word one thing about it. I guess that was a little suspicious. I should have told her like some sort of like super basic version of it to make her like less curious. Yeah. I think me not telling her anything about fucking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Made her suspicious that maybe I enjoyed it so much that I didn't want to tell her a single thing. Yeah. And then I actually like had the perfect trump card because she said something about like me hitting Holly up to shoot. So I go to my text and I go to my text. with holly and i show her that our most recent communication was holly saying like hey i would love to come on plug talk sometime if you guys have any openings so that was like super good that i was
Starting point is 00:31:47 like no look sure she hit me up to do it if what if the last thing in my phone and it's well within the the rights of my relationship to hit up girls to be on plug talk but as we were sort of having the conversation about like you know who was the aggressor that was like a real good thing for me to be able to pull out i let it and say like I didn't initiate this. Holly initiated that. Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You're going to have to cut the scene where you cream piter and told her you loved her, but... Oh, my God. Cream piner would have been so insane. You know, you and I are Eskimo brothers now official.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Official? Just with her? Or with who else? You got some other ones? Probably, maybe. Who knows? We should consult this. You and I get around L.A., baby.
Starting point is 00:32:28 If we looked at every person that we have in common on Instagram, we would probably find, like, a lot of guys and, like, maybe some girls. Mostly guys. Yeah. I wonder you said,
Starting point is 00:32:35 Holly said jokingly when we were doing the plug talk interview that we were her dream double team I think there are a fair amount of women who wouldn't mind the the 22 Danny Mullen double team if you wanted to do that on plug talk I would be happy to do it I feel like I could get hard and perform with a lot of crazy shit going on yeah like if I was in a refugee camp that I could get hard to perform if somebody busted out of camera you on the other hand not 100% sure I've seen I've seen guys who fuck for a living unable to perform because they're in the same room as another guy. And that, I would hate to see that happen to you. If you and I had a show where we basically did Sledgelords, like we had the headsets on the headset mics and we had a drink in our hand, which I'm not sure if that's legal in pornography.
Starting point is 00:33:21 But if we were drinking and podcasting while we were double teaming a chick, that might break the industry. One time a girl showed up to Plug Talk with a truly. That's not that strange. But she had it like on the set, like while we're doing the interview, she's like sipping the truly. Is that not allowed? I feel like that might be illegal. It's just kind of weird because it's like, you know, she was totally coherent. But also, it's her drinking alcohol.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah. So you just like, you probably want to have like a cup or something. Sure. If the girl's going to look drunk at all, like it's totally normal to have a couple drinks before you have sex. But if you're going to look drunk on camera, I feel like that is all bad. That's like you definitely don't want to like even get close. to that line. Yeah, that's like bondage. Well, it's crossing the lines of
Starting point is 00:34:04 legality, maybe. But bondage isn't crossing the line of legality, is it? Bondage can be, I think it's illegal. I think if a girl is truly tied up, you're not allowed to have sex with her when she's tied up. You have to untie her. Well, I think, like, in the bondage community, I'm not sure about the legality of it, but in the bondage community, for sure, they have, like,
Starting point is 00:34:20 an agreement about exactly, like, the terms of the consent and stuff, because, yeah, if you're fully tied up, and then you decide that you don't want to do this, and you can't stop them from doing it. God, that could get tricky. real quick. I wanted to ask you about the felony situation. Sure. Break this down for our slightly
Starting point is 00:34:37 less regime adjacent viewers. Not guilty, baby. Who don't know about what you did. Not guilty. So you went somewhere. To Tennessee. Tennessee. Can I take a wee-wee before we're talking about this? Do it. Tennessee. Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:34:52 So yeah, it's been, we haven't recorded a sludge lord since I got arrested in Tennessee. We were filming a documentary out there basically on like big food and big soda, exploiting poor people in the way that like Coca-Cola
Starting point is 00:35:08 and hostess cupcakes are marketed exclusively to people in poverty. Mountain Dew has basically been crop-dusted into Appalachia since like the 1930s. So we were doing something on that and the way we were going to cover that in a funny, unique Danny Mullin-esque way
Starting point is 00:35:25 is we went to a free pop-up dental clinic for basically impoverished hillbillies who can't afford a dentist. And we went in there and were like pretending we were dental hygienists. Right. Amateur dental hygienists.
Starting point is 00:35:40 We pretended we were dental hygienist enthusiasts. Right. And we get there and like the really, the bit was super innocent. Like it, what we were being very polite to everybody. Everybody was laughing. They invited us in.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Nothing really even usable happened that I would be like, yes, psyched on this footage. This is going to be great. on video. But a couple of the people at the clinic were very displeased. We were there and they called the police. Now, we just flew across the country, drove deep into the wilderness of eastern Tennessee. This is the very first shoot, the very first morning of what's going to be a four-day shoot, and the cops roll up on us. And why did you end up at this particular dentist office in this
Starting point is 00:36:20 remote area? Because we wanted somewhere deep in Appalachia, and this was the only one we could And I just love the fact that you're used to doing content in LA. And as far as YouTube content goes, as far as getting the police to do anything, the standard in L.A. is about as high as it gets. You've got to really fuck up in order for the cops to take notice because they are just demotivated, understaffed, and just really, unless it's a murder, unless you have a brick of cocaine strapped to your waist or a bomb or something, then they pretty much are not going to show. show up or do anything. And then you go and you do this like relatively harmless skit that I feel like if you went to every dentist office in Hollywood and tried to do this, this act, you probably wouldn't ever even run into the cops.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I would just do the Starbucks across the street. One of the baristas made a beautiful four latte frappuccino tray that was clearly destined for some film shoot or some tech powwow. A homeless guy in cargo shorts and non-matching shoes walked in, lifted it up, and walked out the door. Just stole probably $35 worth of Starbucks. So you... The barista took one look, didn't even say a word, and began remaking the order. Shut the fuck up, really?
Starting point is 00:37:42 No thought of calling the police for the reasons that you just laid out. Wow. In L.A., if you called the police, they would basically laugh in your face. If you were like, hey, you know, a guy just came in here and stole a bunch of merchandise. And I feel like in most Starbucks throughout the world, if there were to be this high-priced drink that came up missing, that the Starbucks staff, when they saw this discrepancy in what was sold that day, that they would assume that it was just one of the employees who had helped themselves to a drink because how else would someone get it? I don't feel like any of the Starbucks I go to on a normal basis that you would ever see someone stealing from that sort of end zone there where they let everybody get their drink. but welcome to Hollywood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Happens on a regular basis, I'm assuming. Constantly. So you're so right. And I go to jail because they look through, the cops were actually like very polite. The cop was all in favor. He knew that what we were doing. So they charged me with a felony.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And the reason they charged me with a felony is they were throwing the book at me. They were prosecuting me as if I had set up a real dental clinic represented myself as a dentist and was performing bogus root canals for profit. That's how they prosecuted me. Like I was actually harming people
Starting point is 00:39:00 and making money from it, not an asshole YouTuber from L.A. But of course, being an asshole YouTuber from L.A. probably even made it worse. The cop was in favor of dropping it. He wanted to drop it to a misdemeanor in court. It was just, I think it might have been one of the DAs who just hated me.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But they took me to jail over it. The cop just kind of shrugged his shoulders. Like, I'm sorry. It says it's a felony. We got to. They took me to jail. And that jail, that was my first time ever being in anything other than like a drunk tank. And Adam, for once, it kind of like made me sympathize with all these people out here blowing the trumpet of criminal reform. And, you know, because I've always been pretty pro-law and order. Like, I couldn't relate to the George Floyd riots and the people who were like, fuck the police, ACAB. I didn't get that at all. White. What's that?
Starting point is 00:39:52 You're white. Yeah, basically I'm white. That would have saved me a lot of breath right there. But once I was in that jail cell for about a day and just seeing those terrible conditions, I kind of like have sympathy now for the people who are just, they're born into poor circumstances and ignorance leads them down a road that it winds them up in jail. I'm pretty sure that the Appalachia, the Appalachia region is where, has. Have you ever seen? I think it's the most viewed video on the soft wipe underbelly YouTube channel. And it's basically like a house full of like inbred handicapped people. The Whitakers?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yes, the Whitakers. And they're like barking like dogs. And there's a lot of like, like just weird high pitch noises and shit. And like you've never really seen people like this. I'm pretty sure that they are the result of like intense multi-generational imbreeding. Yes. Which is fine, which is great.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yes. And that was, I imagine there were probably some people who fit that sort of description behind bars with you, or was it not that intense? That's the good news. I've seen that Whitaker's video. And though the people are deeply, deeply inbred, they're all very friendly and jovial toward the host. That was the case in jail, too. I walked in there. First of all, one of the guys recognizes me from YouTube and it's a huge fan. So I'm basically in with my pod of 30 guys right off the bat, which I really need. because I was scared when I saw they were going to release me into General Pop. But it's probably better that I got arrested in eastern Tennessee and got thrown in the jail versus L.A. Because there it was all jolly meth heads who basically weren't guilty of violent crimes
Starting point is 00:41:35 and they just wanted to get released so they could go score another bag of crystal. And yeah, they kind of reminded me of the Whitakers. I can't confirm or deny that any of them were inbred. But yeah, same sort of vibe. It's interesting because I don't feel like just being a meth head is the type of thing that's going to really get you behind bars out here.
Starting point is 00:41:56 The methods are allowed to run wild. You have to commit some pretty nasty crimes while you're being a method. Dude, that's what I was thinking about is we keep California. We obviously have this massive homelessness crisis. I forget we have like 60% of the nation's homelessness. Well, no shit. Like the incentives to be homeless in California, all year around you can sleep on the beach without a blanket and pretty much be fine.
Starting point is 00:42:16 you can walk up to a police cruiser, take a deep hit of a meth pipe in his face and blow the cloud into the open car window, and he'll probably just write you a ticket. How harshly do you judge somebody for smoking meth? Because there was a guest that I had on the podcast recently, and I have no idea if it's true, but there was a lot of comments accusing him of smoking meth. And I don't really know how to feel about that because on one hand, let's say that I knew that you were doing Coke on a regular beer. basis. I mean, I would be a little bit worried for you on a friendship level, but it's not like I would like write you out of my life just because you're doing Coke. And I wonder, like, is meth that serious? It's definitely a step further than Coke. Like, culturally, I feel like it occupies a certain place in our mind. Yeah. But it's, I wouldn't judge somebody harshly if I found out that Donnie over here, if I found out he was on Adderall on a daily basis, I would be like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Donnie, that's cool. However you get through the day. Stop popping aty and looking up gay porn, Donnie. You really need the chill over there. I, it's whether, I mean, I don't know anybody who successfully smokes a lot of meth. That's what, I mean, we know, we know some guys who do Coke probably too much, right, who are still killing it. But I think because there isn't that champion of entrepreneurial meth smoking, we can't really approve of it. The only guy I know who's on methamphetamine or who has done it in the past,
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm though I'm not sure he's clean, is rat dick Ralph. Right. Who is now entered both of our worlds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. almost banged my wife well he was there on the reality show sure sure almost got his ass beat by krip mac if yeah exactly on my channel if he would have won probably multiple times yeah on our channel he almost got his ass beat if he would have won like i don't know how it would happen but would you have let him spoiler he would not have won i mean a lot of people keep asking me
Starting point is 00:44:08 like what if krip mack won i i hate to be the one who's kind of like letting you guys know the Santa Claus isn't real. But, you know, Critt Mac and Raddick Ralph were really brought in for comedic relief. Because most of the, like, actual porn star dudes, they're cool, they're smooth, they're nice to hang out with. They're like fun guys, but they're not like hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Dee was kind of funny and he ended up winning. But like Crip Mack and Reddick Ralph are like way more extreme.
Starting point is 00:44:33 We need to reword for season two, it shouldn't be Lena. It should be a chick like Kazumi, who we know will bang guys for the walls. Yeah. when we saw that with king crock and then it really should be just the most reprehensible bunch of guys we can put together oh you know what i want to do i want to do like kuzumi squid games and not just because she's asian but like you imagine we had like i mean real squid games was like 400 guys right yeah like we can't do 400 but imagine we like had like a like a hundred or like couple hundred and we like really did some crazy ass events yeah and then we whittle it down to like the final 10 that gets a gangbanger
Starting point is 00:45:11 Dude, I love it. I love it. And then you and I are drinking, like walking around. I say maybe, yeah, 10 guys get to do it at once. So it's like a group scene and you and I are up in the mix. If I'm going to do this, I need to like hurry up and do it because Kazumi literally will start producing this herself if she sees this episode. Kazumi.
Starting point is 00:45:28 She has created every kind of porn content imaginable. I feel like at this point it must almost be kind of awkward for her because she's like running out of podcast to go on. And like probably doesn't really have any like stories that are going to wow anybody anymore the way that when she told us about her gang bangs back in the day we were just so captivated like I'm sure she just doesn't really
Starting point is 00:45:48 have infinite stories like that anymore well I mean we just came up with a great idea that'll make her probably at least six figures in like five seconds so I'm just scared of how much it would take to produce Kazumi Squid Games whatever I mean we fucking just bring the scale down a little bit like I mean
Starting point is 00:46:04 Kazumi dude I all respect goes to Kazumi when I saw her not only did she do a scene with a civilian who I love. I love King Crock, but he was $10,000 in debt and struggling with mental health issues.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Not only did she do a scene with him, a non-porn star, unprotected, she did it in his bathroomless, like 20 square foot bedroom with cobwebs and dirty laundry on the floor. I feel like she's not
Starting point is 00:46:36 trying to be that girl anymore, and I don't know if that's because, like, maybe her boyfriend isn't really feeling her. Shout out to Reggie. Shout out to Reggie. He is the man. I don't know if maybe that's just like something that occurred to me. He's like maybe he's not really feeling the vibe of her like really perpetuating this I'm for everyone thing.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Or maybe it's just her trying to clean up her image a little bit. But I did. I texted her months ago. Perhaps like during the rollout of the Crip Mac episode. I asked her or it might even been before that. But like I asked her, will you bang Crip Mac for Plug? And I was really. thinking that she was going to do it. And she was like, no, I'm not that girl anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Hmm. Like, I'm just not, I'm not trying to be that the gang bang girl. I'm not trying to be the girl who fucks Crip Mac or the girl who fuck's King Crock. Yeah. Like I do you think Crip Mac or do you think that Kazumi would enjoy fucking Crip Mac or King Crock more? They are different sides of the same of the same in a lot of ways. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. It's like that is, I mean, it's not the same as being the chick who gets shit on in like a Japanese porno or like the Bucat. hockey girl. But it is like there is an element of I am like the gimmick in the
Starting point is 00:47:50 porn. It's like doing the donkey show in Tijuana. Yeah, I'm going to let this fat fucking guy get behind me and just sort of like hammer away at me a little bit until he like bust a little nut and I'm just along for the ride. Yeah, I wonder if Kazimmy thought that was worth it in the long run. Yeah, I'm trying to picture in my head right now from Reggie's perspective, her boyfriend's. Like I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:48:10 imagine if I was still with my ex, do I want her banging dread who's like the professional quote unquote option or do I want her vagina into a cavern for some period of time yes and then there's for me there's the terrifying idea that she really really likes it and that versus King Crock where you know there's no chance
Starting point is 00:48:30 to she'll like it well he didn't have a big penis but I get what you're saying yeah it's King Crock doesn't have the swagger yet he couldn't get it hard for the life of him for all his talk about his sexual dynamism. But would I rather have my ex-bang dread or rat Dick Ralph?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Hmm, that's tough. I might rather put a gun barrel in my mouth, to be honest. I'll be honest with you, not knowing anything about King Croc or really not knowing much about Crip Mac's living situation in general. When I saw your video where you went to Raddick Ralph's house and you showed
Starting point is 00:49:03 how nasty his apartment was, that really struck me as like, oh, you're disgusting. You're like the grossest fucking person on earth. Krip Mack at one, you probably don't know this. Krip back at one point,
Starting point is 00:49:18 like his ex kind of like exposed like the room that he was living in at the time. And like the gist of it is kind of like that there was like a mattress and then like a trash bag full of clothes in the bath in the closet. That's like he's just not really somebody who like felt the need to like settle down any more than that. He's like he's got a bag of clothes. Yes. If I had to guess he would probably have like another corner where he was this dirty. clothes before he gets the laundry done.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Although I don't know if he ever really like wore the same shirt twice. If he did, I didn't see it too often. That's a luxury of clout. Yeah. People are just giving you so much free shit. I feel like Krip Mack was the kind of guy who was just like wake up and buy a new shirt every day. That's irresponsible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:55 But you know what? I can relate to that because I feel like every guy when they're around community college age has some version of a mattress on the floor and a bag of laundry in the corner. And to me, adulthood is. really the journey from that to having a bed frame and a laundry hamper and, you know, the baseboards of your house being clean. Right. Like Lena always says that when she met me, she like threw us going on our first date and stuff. She's thinking, this is a very like early era podcasting, but she's like, he's got this popular podcast. He's 31. He seems like, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:35 he's got his life together to some extent. He might have some money or something. And, you know, She was only like 25 when I met her, so she's not really like super familiar with the good life or anything like that. She's like fresh out of college. She's not really like expecting me to be like mega rich to hang out with her or anything like that. But then she goes over my house and it's a mattress on the floor. It's like, you know, like I live with like five BMX dudes at the time. And she was very much like, ah, like, okay, he lives in a fucking shithole. And she was kind of let down at that moment.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yeah. You know, to me, I never really saw the reason to have a bed frame because in my mind, it's like, well, I'm going to move my apartment every year or two. And I don't even know how to put a bed frame together. So if it does get put together, there's no way that I'm going to be able to reassemble it. Sure. So what the fuck is the point? And, like, what does a bed frame even do? Don't you feel like the bed on the ground?
Starting point is 00:51:27 It's like, like, you have the box spring and then you have the mattress. What is the bed doing? I think it adds aesthetically something aesthetically for sure And then also the bottom of my box spring When it was just on the ground Would get like dirty
Starting point is 00:51:42 Like dust mites and shit And so it keeps everything clean But did you have some net worth built up When you first met Atlanta when you were 31 If I had to get The BMX website That was like doing okay I'm grinding out these logs and stuff
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm maybe If I had to guess I would say I probably had like $30,000 in the bank All right So And I have a few people on payroll and stuff So it's like I'm kind of doing my thing. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I wasn't doing like great or anything. Maybe 20,000. Yeah. I feel like once a guy gets like 20 or 30 grand, that's just so head and shoulders above the average guy out there that he's well on his way to being successful. The thing is that the average dude that I know will get 20 or 30 grand and start spending as if this money is going to last forever.
Starting point is 00:52:23 When in reality, having 20 or 30 grand is like, it's a good safety net. Yes. It's a good, like, maybe you could take on some sort of like small business businesses from here or whatever, certainly not enough for you to start living as if money doesn't matter that much. Sure. Yeah, it should get the taste of saving
Starting point is 00:52:41 and having money in your mouth and encourage you to acquire more. But I'm curious now because you're obviously further along in your business journey than I am, but I, you know, I've made adjustments to my living situation. My apartment is very nice. I have a bed frame. I have two bathrooms, two bedrooms,
Starting point is 00:52:59 an office. Like, my place is fine. but I still have a piece of shit car. My closets are still dirty. I don't have an adult cookware set. I don't have matching glasses and plates. Is there still anywhere in your life where you feel like that 31-year-old guy sleeping on a mattress on the floor? Well, if you get into my car, because I smoke spliffs.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah. And I quite often smoke them while driving. And my car doesn't have like an ashtray. Okay. So I just kind of ash like wherever like there's like a little nook like next to the the steer thing like we change the gears or whatever I know what it's called but uh yeah the gear shifter and your B and your your year shift your 90,000 dollar car. It's like a little look right there and I just kind of ashen that and then sometimes I'll like look down and see all that ash building up and I'll just go and I'll just blow on it as hard as I can and that sends the ash flying all over the car. so there will like no longer be very much of it in this little nook yeah but now there's a small amount of it on every other part of the car yeah yeah and sometimes my girl gets in there and it smells like an ashtray it smells like very very gross that's definitely something that i look at
Starting point is 00:54:23 and i'm like you're a nasty fuck yeah i wonder if you'd be doing that if you owned the car instead of leasing it. Let me hit you with something even worse that I don't think I've ever said on here. But that's the thing is every once in a while I get my car cleaned. It's good as new. I mean, it still kind of smells a little bit like tobacco and shit in there, but like for the most part, it's like kind of takes you back to reality. I think at some point you might not be able to shift back into park
Starting point is 00:54:46 from drive because of all the grime buildup. That would be a problem. When I was in college, I had my computer up against the wall. And, you know, one day I'm just beating my meat and I'm in college. So I'm not. like mature, responsible enough to even have some tissues. Sure. And I just kind of like notice there's a little bit of room between my desk and the wall.
Starting point is 00:55:06 So as I'm jerking off and I'm realizing that I don't have anywhere to get rid of it. And like the normal hand method, which I like beat off onto like your hand. You sort of land it right here. That's impressive. And then you run off to the bathroom and you, you know, get rid of it. So wipe it down. Get rid of it. That's impressive.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Wash your hands. That didn't seem like an option to me because I'm in the dorm. So it's like, you know, if I want to, I have to walk. like 50 feet to get to the college bathroom. Yeah, in my, the communal dorm room bathroom. And I don't want to be,
Starting point is 00:55:34 like walking through the hall, like balancing a little nut on my hand. Like you got a parrot on your wrist. Yeah. So I beat off into that corner between the desk and the wall. And I look at it, I'm so young.
Starting point is 00:55:47 I'm like 19, so I have no brain. I look at it and I think, oh, it, like, it dried clear. So you can't see it at all.
Starting point is 00:55:57 so I do it a couple more times thinking it's just going to continue to like dry clear then finally I go and I pull the desk away from the wall after doing this I don't know 10 times and I realize that the cum yeah it might have dried clear on the top part but as it continued to streak down the wall it hardened closer to the ground so the yellowness that you would typically see in your com
Starting point is 00:56:27 has like a shade of yellowness to it like that was really collecting more at the bottom so like i had to go and buy a brillo pad and some water and you know it's kind of like scrubbed it off the wall and stuff like just over the years like i've just thought about that quite a few times and that just stands out to me it's like probably one of the grossest things that i've ever had going yeah i'm noticing these two spaces that you've treated so poorly both were rentals your dorm room and your car your current car. Yeah. So I hope you're treating your,
Starting point is 00:56:59 your house that you own with your lovely wife a little bit better. Yeah, well, I share it with my wife and now my kids, so it's like I don't really have the option of doing anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I'm trying to think of the worst place that I have gizzed. The one thing I will remember as far as like disposing of like sexual matter and then just leaving it be isn't any bodily fluids, but I remember I used to draw
Starting point is 00:57:19 very graphic, pornographic images when I was a kid. I would draw, because I had all these sexual urges, but I didn't even know what sex was. And I didn't know what masturbation was. Nobody had taught me. So my way of finding an outlet was I would draw women laying on top of men. At what age? It's hard to know how old you were at those ages. This was probably, I started jerking off in like fifth grade. So this must have been in fourth grade or third grade. And I would just draw people on
Starting point is 00:57:51 top of each other. And those ended up somewhere. You know, I didn't throw those away. away. I didn't burn those. Those were just folded underneath a book that my mom, a couple of years later, probably lifted up. And I guess that's probably not as gross as jizz. Like, I mean, you're going to, I mean, if you had a son, his sexualness is going to come out at some point. And you probably just take that as normal. If you had a 16 year old son and you walked in on and beating off, what would you do? Because you don't like stop them, right? Yeah, no, you're right. Like when I was a kid, probably when you were a kid, that would be the worst thing you could ever imagine happening. Is your mom or dad?
Starting point is 00:58:30 But like, I think when I was 16, like when I'm like sitting on the couch beaten off as a kid, like if my, I think I thought my parents were going to like I was going to be in trouble. Yeah. Which doesn't really make sense to me. Like what they do? Like who the fuck cares? Like this is like the most natural thing on earth. Like good. Jerk off.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Like this is way better than you fucking a bunch of girls when you're 16. Yeah. What if your dad to punish you made you make eye contact with him and finish? that would be one option. What about it's like getting caught smoking a cigarette where they make you smoke the whole pack? You got jerk off like 20 times in a row. Jerk off to every page of the porno magazine you have on the coffee table.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Your dad's going to sit there on a stool and just be like, all right, you like jerking off? Do it 20 times. You're right, though, dude. If I caught my 16-year-old son jerking off, I wouldn't mind at all. Like, I mean, like, what the fuck do you think of 16-year-old boys going to do? Yeah. And he's not jerking off. I'd say, hey, oh, my bad, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I'll be back in 10. Yeah. How long do you need? How long you beat off for? You need 20? I'll be back in 25. Give you a little extra time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 All the time he needs. However, I would then check the cookies on the computer afterwards, and if I saw any gay shit, I would disown him. Yeah. I'd be worried about my son watching porn just because you, that's a joke, by the way, as well as a few other people have told me that through watching too much porn, they, like, weren't able to perform with a woman. which I've never really had that problem, but I could imagine it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You told me, Adam told me the night before he had sex with Holly, my fucking girlfriend, that you beat off the night before. And it's for me, if I have a date coming up where I think there's a pretty good chance I'm going to get laid, I won't jerk off for like two days before. So I have a hair trigger. Yeah, I don't, I got to clean it out. Through porn, and I hate, I hate, for the fans who are anti-sex, I'm sorry. But through porn, I've realized there's two different.
Starting point is 01:00:22 kinds of guys. There's the guys who have a hard time finishing, and then there's the guys who have a hard time not finishing too quickly. Now, if you are in the middle where you just have like amazing control over your erection and you can kind of just come whenever you want to or whatever, that's amazing. But most guys fall into one category of the other where it's kind of hard to get hard or it's just kind of hard to stay hard. I'm a guy who I will finish too quickly if left to my own devices. So I have to try to lessen the pressure. And I've gone in
Starting point is 01:00:58 there to do porn with like two days worth of a cum built inside my body. I don't, it's too much of a hair trigger. Yeah, it seemed like the porn industry used to be the big taboo was not being able to get hard. I never have any problems with that.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But increasingly I am hearing from guys who their dick doesn't work because of porn and they can't, and finishing the only way they can finish is jerking themselves off. The supple skin of a woman's innards no longer does the trick. Forget a blowjob.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's completely out the window. That's baffling to me. Can you come from a blow job? Yeah. Easy. It's a little bit... The pussy is way easier to come from. I agree.
Starting point is 01:01:40 But just in general, I feel like the inside of a vagina feels outrageously good. I've spent my whole life chasing that feeling. Yeah, I had my first unprotected sex in a while. I basically always wear condoms. I had over a Christmas break, I had unprotected sex with a girl, and it felt stupefyingly good. And I felt, it reminded me what it's like to have that hair trigger. Yeah. Because I, she had to keep telling me to stop because I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to do it. I'm going to finish. And I ended up, it was on a picnic table next to the river.
Starting point is 01:02:13 What the fuck? Where were you? Dude, that's when you're staying with your parents, you got to get creative about where you, where you do. That's why people always complain. They're like, oh, I live with my parents. What can I do? Like, I can't get any chicks. Sneak around. Find a picnic table by the river, dude. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Hopefully not the one that I already came on. I have this memory of like right before I got serious with Lentup. I went back to visit my parents in New Hampshire. And I met this girl, maybe on Tinder, maybe on Instagram. I'm not really sure. She tells me to come pull up to her house. I go to her house. She comes out.
Starting point is 01:02:44 She sits on the car, talks to me for a little while. She invites me into the house. I go into the house. this girl's half black and I wasn't going to ask which parent was black sure but I'm kind of thinking in my head what if she's got
Starting point is 01:02:59 some big linebacker looking motherfucker of a dad who's going to and not saying that he's got to be a pussy if he's white or anything but I'm just kind of like painting the picture sure in my head about how awkward this could potentially get and keep in mind I'm like 30
Starting point is 01:03:15 at this point and this girl's like in her mid 20s I don't know she still lived at home with her parents you know respect you live in the fucking middle of nowhere in new hampshire you live with your parents it is what it is it happens i cycled into the parents a couple times and i was in my mid-20s and so she like sneaks me into her room and we're kind of like just hanging out and stuff and uh you know was it clear she was sneaking you past somebody it was clear that her parents were sleeping in the same house and that it was like midnight and i'm just kind of feeling guilty because i can almost like empathize with the parents a little bit more than myself at this
Starting point is 01:03:46 point in my life because i'm thinking you know like What if this fucking dad walks in here and sees me sitting on the fucking bed hanging out with his daughter? I don't know if he's going to try to fight me. At the very least, this seems just like an overreach on my behalf because I'm a grown fucking man. Why didn't I just get a hotel room? I don't know. It might be like 20 or 30 miles to the nearest hotel room. But either way, at some point, I think her dad came down and, like, she avoided him seeing me.
Starting point is 01:04:14 She left, went out in the hallway and had a conversation with him that I'm assuming involved her. admitting that she had a boy in her room, but he didn't come in to actually see me. And then she took me out to her car and sucked my dick. Well, actually, my mom's car. She gave me head in the car. Oh. That's 30 years old. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:33 So it narrowly avoided a catastrophe. Imagine this guy just beating the shit out of me. Did you find out if he was white or black? I never found out. Oh, the mystery. I think Tom Sagar, who had a good joke about this? if you, if there's a half Asian chick or a half Asian guy and there's one white, one Asian parent, it's never the guy who's Asian.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah. It's the case. Asian guys get the short end of the stick, literally and figuratively in our society. They just like kind of just are constantly demasculated and you get to, you feel bad for them. Like, they need to be able to fight. Yes. To get that back, right? That's why we need the return of Asian gangs.
Starting point is 01:05:12 I don't think there's enough. They need to come down from like Northern California. There's like a lot of mong gangs. But I will say, I think Asian guys are kind of coming. I think they're kind of blowing up. I've heard a lot of girls recently tell me they think Japanese guys are really hot. I train jujitsu. And most of the guys at my gym are like athletic, strong, rich Asian dudes who have like tech jobs.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I think if a chick just, I mean, forget like fucking fishing at a Beverly Hills bar for a sugar daddy. Just find an Asian guy on the street and suck his dick. He's probably got a lot of money. That's a fact. If you live in a society that prizes, I don't know, being tough and menacing, that prizes having a giant dick, being an Asian guy. Which, which are you talking about there? I'm just saying, like, if you're in a society that prizes those things, being an Asian guy, maybe not the best. But if you are in Palo Alto and you're in a society where you're respected for, like, you know, being smart when it comes to technology and having a.
Starting point is 01:06:15 lot of money and being able to make things happen in terms of business, then I assume being Asian guys totally fine. Yeah, Asian guys out-earned. I mean, it's statistics. Asian people out-earned white people in like every category. Really? Which, yeah, which is, it's strange when we talk about equity and diversity, because white people now, I believe, are number three when it comes to earnings after Asians and Indians. Really? And I mean, God knows we treated the Asians, not as bad as we treated black people, but it was close. It was fucking close. I mean, the way we made them like, hey, so here's the idea.
Starting point is 01:06:54 See, these mountains? Yeah. We need a railroad to go through the middle of those mountains. Right. This is a basket, and this is a stick of dynamite. I'm going to lower you down with some twine in the basket, and you're going to blow up, do you know how this worked? Wait, but they died as well?
Starting point is 01:07:12 This is how it worked. they would to blow a hole in the side of a mountain to make way for the Union Pacific Railroad, we would lower Chinamen down the face of a cliff in a little basket. They would stick a stick of dynamite in a little slit in the rock, light it, and then push themselves backward off the cliff face to get distance from the rock while the TNT blew. I am not exaggerating. That's what we expected them to do. But were they like hanging?
Starting point is 01:07:42 only amount of time they got to be away from the dynamite was like, go. Yes. And then they had to like kind of swing back. Yes. Wow, that sounds rough. Yes. Like almost all of them lost an arm. What?
Starting point is 01:07:53 There was that. What else did we do to the Chinese that was awful? I mean, a ton. The internment camps. I agreed with that. Oh, really? No. Well, the thing is, I actually like, there were, I guess the reason that Pearl Harbor got
Starting point is 01:08:06 attacked as efficiently as it did is there really was an American, Japanese spy living in Hawaii who sold that information. to the Japanese. So I don't like hate the idea. Like I know it looks terrible now from our multicultural lens what we did but I mean at some point you got to be like do we care more about offending a group of people or about
Starting point is 01:08:26 protecting our nation in a time of war against horrendous foes. I mean the Japanese that any group of people is capable of terrible terrible things in the right pocket of time and space. In the 1930s and 40s the
Starting point is 01:08:42 Japanese were about as bad as any group of people could ever be. Right. To other Asian people included. So it wasn't like a strictly racist thing. So they were so bad that we had to drop atomic bombs on them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 I mean, dude, they would gamble on the sex of a baby inside a pregnant woman's belly, like a Chinese pregnant woman. And then they would cut her stomach open while she was still alive to see what sex the baby was. So they didn't have to wait to find out? Yeah. They're busy, dude. They got to invade the Philippines or something.
Starting point is 01:09:11 What the fuck? Are you serious? Yeah. They would cut the baby. the baby out just to settle the bet yes and they probably did a lot worse stuff than that too what the fuck i just watched the uh world war two documentary on netflix like a four five six part series i forget the newest one yeah i need to watch it i've watched all the old ones with all the the colorized footage that it's absolutely unbelievable that they have access to all this footage but
Starting point is 01:09:32 then you want we watched the other day was uh killers of the flower moon you see this i haven't about the uh as go i say it fucking the assage oaks oaks sage, the Indians. Man, they were doing some... Back to gay porn, Donnie. Thank you. I'm sorry. Deep beating your meat, Don't.
Starting point is 01:09:50 No, the Osage Indians. You know about this, though? No, tell me. I don't know anything about that film. So basically, like, the Osage Indians found a shitload of oil under the ground on the land that they had been given. So then this huge cottage industry of basically, like, white devilish businessmen crop up in that area.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And they're trying. Trying to basically... What area was it? It was in fucking... In Oklahoma. See, I watch a movie and I forget every pertinent detail. Like two days later, for some reason,
Starting point is 01:10:22 Donnie knows it without having to have any reason to remember it. But anyway, so we fucking... They're trying to basically separate the Native Americans from their money by any means possible. Sure. So you have things like outside of the area where the Native Americans are collecting their checks for the money that they are owed.
Starting point is 01:10:40 They'll be guys like trying to take photos of them with their family and they're charging them like $40 for a photo and shit. Just basically like doing anything to basically appeal to the worst impulses of impoverished people that have just been blessed with a large amount of money. But then also on top of that, there's this whole network of doctors and businessmen and stuff like that. Their basic racket is that they will get a Native American woman who has a huge amount of money because of where the land that she was basically given or whatever, and they'll have one of their guys fall in love with her
Starting point is 01:11:17 and then basically start working slowly to kill all of the members of their family as well as the actual woman that they've fallen in love with so that they are then able to basically inherit all these millions or hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's a white guy who does that? Yeah, and Leonardo DiCaprio is kind of like the main dude, and they're basically like, he's like the most evil motherfucker ever. and you're watching the whole movie and it's like a really fascinating peek
Starting point is 01:11:45 into the mind of a truly evil person because it's like very few times throughout the movie do you really see them kind of like reckoning with how horrible what they're doing what they're doing is. They're just sort of doing it because it's just like what the boss man is telling them to do and they're just doing it.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And he's like injecting his wife with poison and fucking there's doctors working with them to give them poison and it only kind of, they only get busted because the feds get notified about how many. people are dying in this area and it is a fucking wild movie i gotta i gotta recommend it's like three and a half hours then they say it might be martin scroise's last film or at the very least it might be the last film that he makes that has this sort of like 400 million dollar budget that is like almost impossible to make back unless it's a fucking superhero movie
Starting point is 01:12:29 yeah that's interesting it's funny we we expelled the natives to oklahoma i'm assuming this is a true story i'd never heard of this no yeah but uh then we're like oh shit there's oil there fuck we send them to the wrong state let's go fuck them over in oklahoma and just find a way to do that extra legally yeah movies is uh is the the days of jango one chained making 400 million dollars is that over like the tom cruise in in uh whatever top gun and then barbie was like the last gasp of that i mean you feel like you wonder that about our society in general like i know that the uh the upenheimer thing did real good but in terms of just leaving the house it feels like leaving the house is dramatically less popular than it used to be. And I even point outside to Melrose
Starting point is 01:13:12 when I say this, when I go back and watch the vlogs from 2017, and I realize that, like, my business specifically maybe had a little bit of a different energy in 2017. And there were people just really going out of their way to try to pull up. But when I watched those old vlogs and I see how many people there were just walking around, it seems like a really stark difference between these days where it just feels like going to Melrose and walking around. Granted, it's Tuesday at like 1 p.m. right now, so it's pretty much not a time where anybody would be doing that anyway. It just feels like it's just not as much of a thing. And I feel like people who go to nightclubs and stuff will tell you the same thing is that the nightclub scene in L.A. has not really recovered post-pandemic in the same way. I wonder if the comedy scene is affected by this to any degree. I guess like comedy's probably pretty resilient because anyone who's a real fan of it.
Starting point is 01:14:02 You got to leave the house, right? Yeah. I wasn't doing comedy before the pandemic really. I wasn't doing stand-up, so I'm not too sure. Does the scene seem healthy? Yeah. It does. But the glory days was back the comedy store with Joe Rogan and all these fucking guys being in there all the time. It feels like a lot of that energy kind of left at a certain point, right? Well, I would say they say the romanticized period of stand-up comedy is the 80s. I guess that was the total boom.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Then the 90s, there was a very famous dive in the industry. And the idea behind that was because in the 80s. 80s, there were so many hucksters setting up clubs and putting shitty comics up that audiences started going out and seeing bad comedy and then they would never see a show again because they thought that's what it was. In the 2000s,
Starting point is 01:14:46 that's my favorite era of comedy is the early 2000s, just because of like what was permissible to say back then. You go watch a special from the early 2000s and it's so shocking in a hilarious way. But I honestly think comedy, I mean, the Netflix
Starting point is 01:15:01 and Hulu and Amazon on Prime during the pandemic, a lot of their biggest product was stand-up comedy. So I feel like stand-up is done pretty well because watching stand-up comedy is so fashionable these days that obviously there's going to be people
Starting point is 01:15:17 going out and seeing stand-up live because they see it on their screen. Whereas like, when we were inside for the pandemic and we learned to shop online, I feel like just because you bought a blouse on Amazon, that doesn't make you want to run out and buy blouse in a store like seeing a comic you like on screen makes you want to go see a comic live right
Starting point is 01:15:40 and like i mean the whole trend of everything in our society is kind of that you just don't really need to leave your house and i'm reading this book that my publicist gave me uh for christmas that's basically about the history of the porn business there we go back to the porn you probably saw this coming yeah anyway it's it's just talking about you know all throughout the 60s and 70s like sort of how this whole world came together because everybody was getting hit with like obscenity lawsuits or being charged with obscenity back in the 60s and 70s. Right. But then, so
Starting point is 01:16:09 like a very common thing in L.A. was like there were bars that pretty much appealed largely to the porn community. And I'm just reading about this in the book in the 70s where all the famous porn stars and all the people
Starting point is 01:16:25 that wanted to be around them and stuff, they would just kind to go to the same bars every night. And that to me is so impossible to imagine because people just stay home. Every porn girl I know, what does she do on a Tuesday night? She stays in the fucking house. She's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 01:16:42 She might leave the house on a Friday or a Saturday to go to a party or go on a date, some shit like that. But like that impulse to leave the crib is very small in comparison to like, you know, nowadays you can watch TV. There's a million different things you can watch on TV. A million different things are doing your phone. Say you get into gaming. There's a million different games that you could literally be entertained.
Starting point is 01:17:03 by playing for the rest of your life but then in comparison to that motherfucker you finally decided to sit in my coffee right at the end of the podcast you piece of shit uh in comparison that that just filled me with rage just seeing that fly to pull that move off but like in comparison to that like in the 70s if you were just staying home if you're a single person on a Tuesday night you're staying in there might be a couple of good shows on TV but realistically not that much watch a TV kind of dismal experience. You've got to leave the house. You're going to call a bunch of your buddies.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Just call them, just talk to them on the phone for a while. I mean, like, you're probably going to go meet up somewhere and hang out. Now you can sit there and watch like a million different live streamers hang out. You can watch Jack Doherty have more fun than you could ever have. Shout out the Jack Doherty. Him and I have collabed at the past. I think in L.A., ironically, we might be less likely. Though we live in this megatropolis with like 4 million people in the city limits,
Starting point is 01:18:00 we might ironically be more incentivized to stay in because going out in L.A. is such a bitch. The idea of finding a parking space at a Best Buy right now fills me with a nameless dread. At a Best Buy. Yeah, just because if I go to a Best Buy in Westwood, the Best Buy in Westwood, probably I'm going to have to be hovering around
Starting point is 01:18:22 in a parking lot that's way too small for anything bigger than a Fiat. Well, I'm going to be dodging homeless people and there's going to be a meter where after five seconds, five minutes rather, I'm going to get a ticket. So you live right in the middle of the shit. I don't even know where there's a best by anywhere I live. Like the best by,
Starting point is 01:18:38 we're lucky to still have a couple best buys in this Godforsaken city. Yeah, I talked to some people in Sacramento, some guys who worked at a Best Buy who were fans on my channel. They said Black Friday is like dead now. Nobody even goes out and shops for electronics. I believe it. But if you go to the mall on Black Friday or even like Christmas time or whatever, sometimes you'll be deceived.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Go to the Topanga Mall around Christmas time. You'll be like, mall culture is alive and well i want to smack this motherfucker so bad but i know see if i even begin to try to do it i got to get my salt gun yeah these flies must die the anti-aircraft gun but there are certain times of year because i go to the mall a decent amount on the weekend with my kid yeah just kind of go hang out for like an hour or two and the mall still has something going on but it's it's not that impressive besides the few times of years where it's really cracking like me even having the store is kind of like a bet or an investment
Starting point is 01:19:29 that going out in real life will slowly start to become more appealing to people. But it does feel like that bet kind of flies in the face of all of recorded history, where it seems like going out in person just slowly becomes less and less important to people. Yeah. You're saying that technology only goes one way. And now it's pretty clear that technology is made staying home more tenable and that probably there isn't going to be an upswing or a reversal where people start. going and doing in-person yoga classes. I, for me personally,
Starting point is 01:20:04 I could never be fully secluded. Like I, for instance, when I have a choice at the supermarket, self-checkout or manned aisle, I always take the mandial. Let's interact. Let's talk. Yes. Well, that's also that and I'm very lazy
Starting point is 01:20:20 and I don't want to bag my own groceries and ring up my own shit. It is kind of confusing. Which is bullshit. When I have a big cart full of shit, the last thing I want to do was punch in a bunch of numbers and scan a bunch of codes. But I, yeah, I never mind that interaction.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I have PTSD of, like, scanning the loaf of bread and then putting it in the checkout area and then it telling me that this loaf of bread does not weigh enough to qualify as a loaf of bread. Who wants to deal with that? That bothers me. I don't appreciate that. Who wants to have the guy, when you're buying a bottle of wine,
Starting point is 01:20:50 come over and check your ID and pull your wallet out. Yeah. Don't like it. We actually, my squad and I, we started going back to in-person meetings at my apartment. We're trying to do something like office hours to bring us back together. Right. Because yeah, dude, I'm over. If I have a day where I don't have to be anywhere, which is rare, usually I have a podcast. I'm going to Jiu-Jitsu. I'm doing some stand-up.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But when I have a day where I just have nowhere to be, it just feels like you're in a, it feels like you're in solitary confinement with no clock. And I need that punctuation of human interaction. I'm pretty optimistic that you made a good investment with this store. that things will go back to people wanting to interact. It's just so intertwined with our species. We need that. No, and I encourage people because, listen, we live in a world where you can literally wake up, sit up in bed,
Starting point is 01:21:44 prop a small pillow under your lower back, and then flip open your laptop, and just start working on your laptop, answering emails, blog posts, working on YouTube, watching videos, whatever it is, all the stuff that you plan on doing for this day. you can do that and I honestly did that throughout my early 20s like a significant amount of time I think that's like the worst thing you can do if you really want to be someone who's going to get shit done in this world
Starting point is 01:22:07 you need a program you know you need to wake up get in the shower eat your breakfast go to a fucking coffee shop it took me a while to realize this but when I was trying to be like a writer which was basically what I was trying to do for a couple years before the YouTube thing kind of took off you know I used to like go to the Starbucks and just post up with my laptop and just write on my laptop for three fucking hours straight. A perfect bar spin must be treated like making the perfect cake. This was the time period where I decided to stop doing content about BMX and try to write and become somebody who could write about things outside of bike riding. This didn't really work. I had to kind of turn to podcasting.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Well, now your pencil is your mouth and your paper is a podcast microphone. And my asshole is the paper and Holly Day's tongue is the pencil as well. You piece of shit. No, I'm with you. I still love. working out in public. I'll still go to UCLA and use their libraries there. Yeah, it's, dude, well, because their campus is in the middle of, like, the most valuable real estate in Bel Air, overlooking, like, all these 1920s mansions and shit and beautiful landscaping. It's... When I was staying in Hawaii, we stayed at this, like, resort. It's like a big-ass hotel with, like, a shitload of places of a stand. It's right on the beach. It's super nice.
Starting point is 01:23:23 It's called Turtle Bay. And at one point, I'm, like, looking around the lobby. And I'm just seeing a lot of young people like people in their 20s and shit and they're just like sitting at various tables in the cafe area and I just say to Lena I'm like why like like what you're telling me that these girls who look like they're like 21
Starting point is 01:23:41 they're telling me that they're staying at this fucking expensive ass hotel like where do you think these girls are coming from she's like oh there's no way that they're staying here they're just like girls from town who just come here to just work on their laptops because it's like a decent place to post up and I'm like oh right yeah I remember that I remember when I used to fucking
Starting point is 01:23:57 go out of my way to leave the house to just sit there on my laptop. Now that just doesn't feel really like tenable because I feel like I would be a little bit too on edge that somebody was going to try to kill me slash ask me for a photo, both of which I'm equally afraid of. Well, let's go through this. I just, I posted up, I don't have the, maybe, I mean, some people really don't like me, but there's no real threat of assassination. But I was just to the Melrose Starbucks across the street. Which has traumatized. You've mentioned it multiple times. I haven't been over there since we got back here. You get in there, and I would say it's probably 50-50 housed and unhoused people at the seats and at the tables.
Starting point is 01:24:40 And you go in there, you buy your coffee, you're like, I'm a customer now. I can use the bathroom. Great. That problem's taken care of. You walk around the corner, there is a very foreboding paddlelock with a bunch of digits on it. You round the corner, you ask, hi, while somebody's handling. like scalding hot steam. You have to ask them for the bathroom code.
Starting point is 01:25:00 And there's a line wrapped around the fucking counter. They yell at you like a six-digit number. And you walk over there, like trying to remember like, I was a Pibonacci sequence. What was that? That she just yelled to me. Okay, I think I can remember it. I was born in that month.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You're like trying to work out in your head. You can remember all these digits. But then you see there's like already somebody in there. And then there's a homeless guy in the line in front of you waiting for the bathroom to open up. He goes in there. locks the door and he doesn't come out for 15 minutes. Was he taking a shit?
Starting point is 01:25:30 Was he shooting a heroin? Was he shooting heroin into his arm? I don't know. But either way, I just have to take a pee-pee that would last like three seconds. And I can't because I'm in an inner-city Starbucks. But the reality is that now you can just go outside and just piss on the street. I'm on probation, so I can't. Well, the cops just have so much going on.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Like my fear of taking a piss on the street in downtown Nashville, pretty serious. because this is like a city that seems like people take the law quite serious. Yes. Even Midtown Manhattan, a lot of security, a lot of cops. I would be a little bit weirded out by it. Hollywood? I mean, every man is on their own out here. They got to fight for their ability to urinate.
Starting point is 01:26:11 And you know, you ever go to like a jack in the box and they have that lock on the door in the bathroom and you say, what's the code? And they say, one, two, three, four. And you're like, oh, okay. It's kind of a joke. You guys made it as easy as possible. Yeah, yeah. You go to the Starbucks over here.
Starting point is 01:26:24 167 there's a Roman numeral and like an exponent and shit it's like impossible to figure out how to get in there yeah I've been there before but I mean I don't know I'm taking my bet that retail still has good days to come
Starting point is 01:26:41 I feel like you know people are just slowly steadily and I don't know if I'm just being a little too optimistic but I feel like people are slowly steadily getting a little bit sick of having to stay in the crib all the time and they still crave outdoors experiences. The problem is that you can get people to come out here if you're dropping a new shoe, if you have an exclusive merch drop for special occasions, people kind of come out. It's a little
Starting point is 01:27:04 bit more complicated to get them to come out on a Tuesday at noon. That doesn't really seem appealing to anybody. I'm sure it's better for you with this massive online platform. What do you pay in a rent here? Sorry, COVID. I think $6,000-ish dollars, $6,500, something like that. That's not that bad. Not a bad, right? I thought on Melrose, it would have been minimum 10k probably closer to 20 when we moved here in 2017 we were paying 5 grand a month which seemed like a lot compared to our downtown location where we were paying i think like 1200 a month when we first got in there because it was the biggest piece of shit storefront ever i think we're paying 5 grand for the the spot two stores over and then when when the pandemic hit or like actually
Starting point is 01:27:47 right before the pandemic hit when we decided that we wanted to leave they were actually trying to get us to stay to the extent where they were offering it to us for i think I think 4,000 a month. So that was, you know, if you go five, six years in between, you're expecting the rent to go up. But then it was the other way around. But man, I was just, you see that the barracks went away? They got rid of the barris? The skate park, Steve Barrow and Eric Austin skate park.
Starting point is 01:28:10 No. They said that their rent, when they got that spot in, I think 2012, 2012, 2013, something like that area. Their rent on that spot was $18,000, which it is a huge fucking skate park. Yeah. To be fair, indoor. Where is it? Gigantic warehouse.
Starting point is 01:28:27 I forget, I've been there back in the day. I saw a Gucci Man concert there back in the day. Is it downtown L.A. area roughly? I feel like it's closer to the airport. I forget. I forget exactly where it is. But 18,000. And then they just recently had to end their lease.
Starting point is 01:28:45 The landlord was trying to get $105,000 a month for rent. So your rent's only got to buy about $1,000. Is that correct? roughly. Yeah, over the course of seven years. Yeah, that's insane. I mean, with inflation alone, even if your rent was like constant, you would think they would want like three or four extra grand just to make up for that discrepancy. But that's the weird thing around here is that there's a lot less foot traffic than there was in 2017. So the spots are a little bit less valuable. So the rent is not going to necessarily go up as much as you would expect. But then at the same time,
Starting point is 01:29:20 so there's less foot traffic. So the spot is worth less. But then, At the same time, every single spot on the street is full. So it's like if you wanted to get a spot on Melrose, you're going to have a hell of a time because every fucking spot is full. That's why we ended up taking this spot. We always saw ourselves making our comeback to Melrose and getting like a big spot not happening. Like fucking we ended up getting a spot that was smaller than the one that we had before,
Starting point is 01:29:45 which I think is fine because like ultimately we have enough space that everything will be fine. But it's just like every spot is fucking. taken on this block which now actually there's an opening you remember T rel his he had a store with his wife down the street that one is now open kind of sucks because that was one that we really wanted and i i knew that as soon as we got a spot that some shit would open up and we'll be able to get it but the thing is is that that that's about big i'm guessing that's about 20 000 a month the big ass spot it's got to be at least 15 so i mean that's a shitload so i'm kind of glad that we're paying less over here i'll see if i can stretch it into my budget sell some danny mullin merch over there
Starting point is 01:30:23 let's do a Danny Mullen regime pop-up. Let's do it. Have everybody come by. I couldn't tell if you were trying to end the podcast right there or not. No, I tried to. We can end it soon, but. I heard you one time on a podcast, slam some chick you were podcasting with.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I think you might have talked about it on Sledge Lords because you were trying to wrap up and she dove into a new subject without reading you at all. And it just enraged you and you fired her. It's funny because I know the exact, podcast that you're referring to and it was back in the very early days of me podcasting it was in like 2015 yeah and so it's probably not something that anybody would remember but yeah that that's something
Starting point is 01:31:02 in general that you kind of run into i've had brink baby do that to me a little bit we're doing podcasts together where it's like i'm blatantly trying to wrap it up and then the the co-host is just kind of like so what was it like getting into music yes you're just kind of like okay this is a chronological podcast to a certain extent the end part is not going to be where we go back to the very beginning of their career. Yes. So what was it like when you were in high school and you started getting into hip-hop music? So losing your virginity, let's talk about that after you just interviewed a porn star for like an hour
Starting point is 01:31:31 and a half. So hitting your puberty? Did you have any attraction? How big was your dick when you were 18? I wonder how big my dick is sometimes before I hit puberty. I wonder like if I could go back to eighth grade, it'd be pretty interesting to like, you know, poke around. Yeah, because I wish I had written more about my dick throughout my childhood because I remember
Starting point is 01:31:48 being a little boy and seeing my dad's dick and thinking that it was the biggest fucking thing I'd ever seen in my entire life. Oh, yes. And then seeing it as an adult accidentally and being like, oh, that's pretty regular dick. Definitely not what I remember seeing as a kid, but your sense of scale is so different. The question that's demanded here is, when did you see your dad's dick as an adult? Yeah, I can't remember. It might have been like changing for the swimming pool, maybe a decade or two ago. Okay. Interesting. Fortunately, I have not seen my father's penis since I was a wee lad, but I had the same experience. We should work on it. I had the same experience that you're talking about, though,
Starting point is 01:32:23 seeing my dad's cock and it being huge. But I, clearly I don't have a huge cock. It's smaller than yours. And the only evidence I have now that I've been able to piece together about how big or not big my dad's dick is is we're, my mom and I were watching comedy. And my mom sometimes will try to say something like really dirty or like sexual, I think is a means of bonding with me.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Because our conversations are always very, like, professional. They're about football, about life or about where, going for a family vacation. So occasionally she'll see my videos and they're all filthy and she'll want to relate to me on that level. And there was a comment made in a stand-up special about big penises. And it was already starting to get a little uncomfortable in the room, the subject of Cox and just me and my mom.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And my mom goes, my dad, your grandpa, I guess he had a really big one. Shut the fuck up. And the subtext there is that my dad obviously doesn't have a really big one. one or she would have said, you know, your father has a really big one because she wouldn't have had to go up the family tree to my grandpa. That's such like a naughty joke coming from a mom. I mean, that's kind of a naughty joke coming from anybody. If Donnie were to talk about somebody who's here and be like, I heard Stephen got a big one,
Starting point is 01:33:39 I'd be like, what the fuck, bro? That's such a strange thing for you to know or tell me about. But you'd appreciate it at the same time. I mean, I'm a person who thinks that Dick related information should just be shared more freely amongst people. Oh, me too, dude. But no, that's fascinating. Because, okay, that book I'm reading about the olden days of the porn industry.
Starting point is 01:33:57 One part, they're talking about this guy who was a big porn star back of the day, and they say you had a 13-inch dick. And I mean, that's bigger than dread. And I realize in that moment that in my mind, penises have been getting bigger over time throughout history. But there really is no reason to think that. Like, if a guy could come out with a dread-sized cock in 2024, why could that? why could that guy have not had that same dick
Starting point is 01:34:23 40 years ago, 100 years ago? There's no reason to think dicks are getting bigger. Yeah, I dispute that. Let me ask you this. It's on the subject of big dicks. A girl that I was sexting with recently, super, super respectable chick, went to a really good college,
Starting point is 01:34:37 a professional type, which it's rare. You know, around L.A., most of the chicks I meet don't have a career going. They're usually prostitutes, essentially. Essentially. essentially. She, so there's like, you know, in the back of my mind, there's like, you know, something good, serious could develop with this chick. Well, we're sexting one day, Adam, around Christmas too, which makes it all the more disturbing. And she sends me a picture that a guy
Starting point is 01:35:03 took of her sucking this guy's dick, downward perspective. And he has the most fucked up cock I've ever seen. It's like, it's probably knocking on the door of 10 or 11 inches, but it's relatively thin. Now, when you're 10 and 11 inches, you've got to have a little bit of girth. It can't be a churro at that point. So still, if this cock were six inches, it would probably be a girth monster. But relatively, the dimensions are all fucked up. But that aside, there is a 10-inch penis laid across this girl's fucking face.
Starting point is 01:35:39 And she sends that to me as if I will be turned on and think it's hot. And so prior to this, you were thinking of her as maybe a potential future girlfriend? Absolutely. Yeah. Don't do that to a guy that you're thinking about getting serious with. Jesus Christ. I will argue don't do that to a guy who you just want to hook up with once. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It really, nothing, because even if you know the chick fucks other guys and is out there getting busy, you want to suspend disbelief. It's like watching a movie. We know DiCaprio is an actor who lives up in the Hollywood Hills, who is a complete degenerate who bangs 10 girls a night while wearing headphones and blindfolded. We know that. But when you watch Killers of the Flower Moon, you want to think he's an Oklahoma schemster trying to exploit an Indian. And he is like 50 playing a 25-year-old, which is pretty impressive.
Starting point is 01:36:27 That too. You know, he's aged well. You've got to give it to children's blood will go a long way. Yeah, he's fucking all these 19-year-old girls every night. It's hard to get old when you're living that lifestyle, right? This is all conjecture in case one of his legal representatives is listening. I don't think that's up for debate that he's fucking young women, right? That's kind of his whole deal.
Starting point is 01:36:42 You're right. That's true. But like the thing where he wears a blindfold and headphones, I've heard that from enough like one source removed sources now. Wait, seriously? Headphones and a blindfold? That's what I'm hearing? I mean, what's the point of fucking a bunch of hot chicks and then wearing a blindfold? You get bored when you fuck that many young hot chicks.
Starting point is 01:36:59 So you're going to make it more boring by just staring into just nothingness? I'm not the guy who does it. I just question if he's the guy who does it as well. Maybe it's like a deprivation tank. How would you feel if your daughter ended up hanging out with Leo? There are worse choices, I suppose. I mean, it could be a lot worse. I kind of feel like I would rather her like be.
Starting point is 01:37:17 dating like the worst random guy her age than dating a guy who blatantly has like a fetish for younger girls and is like basically soulless and emotionless at this point because he's fucked so many of them already yeah and the problem is too you got to think that being in a relationship with decaprio and then getting kicked to the curb when they turn 24 and 363 days and that's that's best case scenario if you make it more than a couple nights with this guy that's fucking you've you've officially gotten a commitment out of him How do you feel about this statement? Boosie said about his daughter.
Starting point is 01:37:50 He said this to her, to her boyfriend. He said, you could cheat on her. Just don't beat on her. Those were his words of caution to him, which I totally understand where he's coming from. You cheat on her, break her heart, whatever. That's fair play. That's what happens in relationships.
Starting point is 01:38:09 You're young. You're going to cheat on a girl. A lot of guys cheat is what it is. If you beat her, then I got to get involved. She can't, she can't, you know, avenge this in the way that you would probably want, right? Now, even the point I'm out in my life, it might be a situation where I say, hey, Donnie, you've got to go track down this 15-year-old boy and beat the shit out of him. Turn off the gay porn. Get out there.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You can use my car. Go find this guy, beat his ass. I don't know. And I don't want to be put in that position either. Damn, dude. Yeah, I mean, I don't know his background, but it just makes me. He's been charged with attempted murder. and ordering hits on people specifically.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Yeah. I mean, it just makes me think that his childhood was rough enough to the point where... That's the binary in a relationship. There's only two real options. Like, it's all flowers and rainbows and wedding bells if there's just cheating and no beating. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:01 It makes me wonder, like, Tyreek Hill is the wide receiver for the dolphins, like huge star. He is convicted for beating the shit out of one of his girlfriends. Really? And I guess he's, like, knocked up two chicks since he's been engaged to the chick that he's now married to. But really like the beating, it just seems like beating is so accepted in some rungs of society that it's really crazy.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Like, I mean, it's, you get beat up in prison, though, for doing it. But it's so commonplace, like in the NFL, for instance. Yeah, talk to Rat Dick Ralph about that. I feel like you, but he's going to get beat up either way, right? That's true. Yeah, a punching bag. But I feel like I hear a lot about how, like, child malignant. Lester's are going to get beat up in jail.
Starting point is 01:39:45 And I think if you were some sort of like serious rapist for sure, too, I don't know that like the guy who, you know, was beaten on his girl and like happened to fucking cracker skull. I don't know if that guy's necessarily going to get that much attention behind bars. Now, certainly it's not like a respectable crime in the same way that like if you were a gang member and you are in prison because you were shooting at some guy that you don't get along with. People are going to look at that and think, oh, he's a real one, whatever. I don't know. Like I think a lot of that shit is overstated about like the more.
Starting point is 01:40:13 moral code that is imposed on you when you're in prison. Yeah. All I know is for my stay in prison, the guys really hated child molesters. That came up, even though I was only in there for like 18 hours. And then I know about rat dicks experience. But what bothers me the most about like beating on chicks, which I would never even dream of doing because like, I mean, I think you and I probably came from households where that was like out of the question. If I felt the need to hit the girl, I got to get out of there.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Yes. In the short term, I need to just leave the house. Yeah. In the long term, unless we can kind of fix whatever that was, I think this is probably the time for us to end this. Yeah. Yeah. The sad thing, though, is like, is it kind of seems like, like, I haven't really heard too many stories about a guy beats the shit out of his girlfriend and she immediately calls the police and leaves him. It seems like to the contrary, like, beating a chick seems like a decent way to keep her around.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Maybe in the short term. But doesn't it seem like that, though? it seems like the chicks who get beat up, like Ray Rice is married to the chick, he caoed in an elevator. But you got to imagine that those girls. Von Miller's chick recanted and like refused to testify against him after, I mean, he was just fucking playing in a playoff game. Like he was just, he was just pass rushing, dude.
Starting point is 01:41:28 He was rushing the QB. I'll say this is I've known a lot of couples over the years where it seemed like the abusing each other thing was like a pretty, you know, it was kind of like mutual combat. They had sort of agreed upon. And like, oh, this is just something we're going to do. We're going to beat the fuck out of each other from time to time. And, you know, my relationship certainly is not like that. I've definitely, like, severed friendships.
Starting point is 01:41:50 They're not, like, real friendships. But there was, like, a dude that used to be around me a decent amount. And then I had a birthday party one year. And everybody's doing coke and getting super fucked up. And I was off in sex land, having some sort of crazy through some scenario going on or whatever. And it was a big house. So I didn't realize on the other side of the house, this guy's beating the shit out of his girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:42:10 Ooh. And then I end up hearing about it. It definitely turned me off to really, like, being around this guy too much after that. Yeah. I wasn't really, like, keen on inviting him to parties after that. That just seemed like, okay, you're somebody who clearly can't handle their cocaine. Yeah. Or, I mean, if you're going to beat the shit out of your girlfriend, at least do it in the
Starting point is 01:42:28 guest house, okay? Not in the other wing. Get your own hotel room. Sure. Anyway, all right, I got to interview a gang member, I guess you could say, after this. Oh, you're saying I'm not gangster? I'm just saying that, you know, I don't want him to come up in here and beat the dog shit out of you. It's forced you to apply a rear naked choke.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I don't want to do that either. I'm not stretched out for the morning. Oh, yeah. He'll get you stretched out. I'm going to get raped, too. Danny Moll. We should do this more often. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:42:53 We got to keep Sledge lords in the Roto. Maybe not weekly, but quarterly. Monthly, something like that. Let's jump on, do some pods. Yeah. Let's get it in. Let's get it in, baby. I like it.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Just like Holly and I got her tongue into your filthy. You read my mind. I was about to say that, too. asshole all right appreciate you Danny Mullen no jumper sludge lords we out out

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