No Jumper - Daphne Joy on Her Ideal Man, Drake vs Kendrick, Micropenises & More

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

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I'm over the moon to be here today. Really? Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. I'm super excited that you were down to come on. Yes. Yeah.

I feel like, okay, this is just my assumption. I feel like you decided to come out of your shell a little bit, given certain recent controversies and that you kind of like picked podcasters to do podcasts with that had recently said horny things about you on the internet. I think me and academics both fall into that category. Oh, what were you saying? I honestly. Oh, I was just, uh, I was talking about, you know, some footage that was recently released.

And I was just basically, you know, being quite adamant about how attractive I found you. Oh, thank you. And, you know, I think him too. And so I feel like that's pretty good. I think that's like a good way to choose what podcasts you'll do. Right. It's just fine dudes who are publicly adoring you. Oh, I mean, I feel like it's about people who maybe aren't afraid to touch on the subject

and maybe have more of an understanding of it a little bit. And then also, yeah, I guess conversation and understanding. Yeah, because you and him, I mean, it was pretty viral. You guys seemed like you were kind of hitting it off there. Oh. But I think a lot of people were unsure if you were, like a lot of people were kind of throwing him in the like Simp category there because, you know, the smile on his face and stuff. And I don't academics get girls and everything, but I feel like you had him feeling a certain type of way.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. Well, with academics, he, by the way, if I talk about, slow it's just my way of calming myself down. Oh, for sure. I mean, this is a safe space. Don't worry. Thank you.

I'll catch up to your speed for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he was definitely, he's a really large voice and I just find him so hilarious. As I told him, like underneath all the vulgar words and the profanity, I definitely could see a man that was honestly attracted to me. Yeah. I even like screenshot this one where he was like watching my my reel or something and he literally had his mouth open. Right. And I was like, yeah, I want to talk to him.

Yeah, he's an appreciator of beautiful women. I've found out about some websites through him just casually mentioning them. Oh, nice. Yeah. And I love men who love women and adore them and really just devour the essence of a woman. So I'm into that. Well, one thing I thought that was funny that you said to him was like, you know, he was basically like asking you what you found attractive.

And you were basically like, I'm attracted, I'm attracted to the fact that you're attracted to me. Right. Which is kind of a low bar to me. Oh, you think so? Well, that's like the highest bar. I feel like probably like a pretty large percentage of men are attracted to you, right? Oh, thank you. I would assume.

And you're probably used to that. It's probably been a lifetime of this for you, right? I tend to be on the shire side, so I don't really, I appreciate it, but I'm not really always in large situations where I would kind of feel that always, if that makes sense. I'm kind of away from a lot of things. You do seem pretty ducked off. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure there had been an option for you to do an interview for many years now, and you just kind of chose not to do so, right? Yes.

I'm definitely more of just the quiet type. I just like want to be in peace away from attention. I don't really, I mean, granted, of course, I have my social media, and I really love and enjoy, like, shooting and all the aesthetic, beautiful things. I love going to beautiful places and things like that, but I don't really gravitate towards a certain type of attention. I would just, attention comes to me, but I don't really seek it. You know what I'm saying?

But if you do Only fans, at a certain point, it's like attention is the whole business. Yes. And that's why you have girls creating fake storylines about themselves and including things that would be generally considered, you know, embarrassing or disgusting by many people's standards. But, you know, when it comes down to it, attention really drives signups. So with that, I will say that from my fan base that I've come. created through the years, I realized, okay, so this is really the next thing to just have more intimacy, get to know them better, have them get to know me better. And like, I, as I've said, I love that academics was, the main thing was his attraction to me was what attracted to me. And so

in just with Only fans, I am, it's a bit of a turn on that the men are so turned on by me. So it's developed. I've only been on it for about a year and a half now. And I'm just like, I'm even well that the attention that it gets and just like all like the love letters and just how I make a man feel and they're so like deep with it. Like it really like excites me for sure. And so I think it's a beautiful thing and I'm having a lot of fun with it. And it's been feeling more for me just I feel really like more liberated by being on it. I feel like I can be more myself. I feel like, Like, it's so funny, I used to, like, just post, like, I don't know, like, booty shorts or something, you know? Right.

And now I'm, like, a little bit more sensual and seductive on it. And I feel like my fans have really seen me, like, open up more. Yeah, get more comfortable for sure. Right. Because, I mean, part of the difference, I think, in interview style with me and Ack is that Ack is a single man. Okay. So I think that like, you know, whether it's likely to occur or not, you and him, it really kind of felt like a little bit of a first date, even though it was through the computer. Yeah.

Whereas I'm a married man. Right. But, you know, I'm also, I don't know if you know, but I'm Only Fans performer as well. Oh, nice. Me and my wife have a podcast called Plug Talk where we interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her on camera. Oh, wow. So it's a whole thing. Okay, cool.

Okay, cool. How do you How did you develop such a Comfortability in your relationship? Well, when I met her I think we both just had a little bit of a Performative side to us Like very early on

She would be you know We would be hooking up Yeah And somehow we would just like Think of somebody that we were both friends with Like some girl and we would just kind of FaceTime them and all of a sudden we're like Hooking up further and join

sort of. And then that turned into us, you know, meeting girls out and about, bringing them home. And then that turned into her saying like, hey, like Wednesday at six, would you be down to bang me and so-and-so for my only fans? And I was like, yeah, sure, I'll do it, whatever. Oh, my gosh. Happy to do it. And then as time went by and we got married and everything like that, we kind of started this podcast together. And then that sort of just became like a different level where, I mean, because she used to get a little jealous back in the day. day and now at this point she doesn't care like I shoot without her sometimes with other girls and stuff

like that and it's totally fun with it which is kind of kind of crazy that we got to that point yeah well i feel like maybe that's due to a lot of trust right exactly yeah a lot of emotional trust yeah definitely yeah yeah yeah yeah the more trust the better yeah yeah definitely and i've always been like a very non-judgmental free-spirited person um just you know open-minded about a lot of things so i could see how that was really exciting in your relationship for sure i definitely think that um it's a beautiful thing to have that with someone because it's kind of a meeting of the minds you're not like hiding who you really are and um your desires and i feel like that's where a lot of people people get tripped out because they lack the honesty and like they don't want to I don't know

maybe it's distrust or lack of honesty for control or something but I'm glad you guys don't have that well like nice I had a friend back in the day who like literally his girlfriend would end up beating the shit out of him because he would like look at a girl oh wow in public which I think I've always kind of known that I wasn't really that type of relationship for me you know like if I'm gonna be forced to take my manhood

and the fact that I find women attractive and just like put that away for the next 40 years while we're in a relationship I mean that just doesn't really seem sustainable I would rather we'd be able to have that conversation

yeah that honesty and the openness but your friend probably like getting beat up you think is he still with her I don't know what that particular friend is doing. But then, okay, and then on the other hand, I have a friend Lush, who's in the other room. And he was up until recently dating a very violent Mexican woman. Oh, wow.

She abused him. It was actually a really sad scenario. I had to, like, help him get out of it. Yeah. And so we would be, like, out doing a vlog. And, you know, there would be girls around. And, you know, he'd have to be off in the corner, arguing on the phone. with her and she was screaming at him.

Yeah. And it's like he would, he would not be doing anything inappropriate. Right. You know, and he would just be getting destroyed. And then she, there was one time where she beat his ass so bad that he couldn't come into work for a week. Oh my God. So that was tough.

Okay, that's, that's a little crossing the red line a bit. Unless you like that or, are they still together? No, he, he had to flee her because she was such an abusive monster. Oh my God. Yeah. I had to block her on Instagram because she was just having just vent sessions in my DMs for days at a time. And I think she should be imprisoned. Oh, no.

Possibly forever. That's not okay. Yeah. She has, she's on a non-sexy vibe. She's on a whole other psychotic vibe maybe. Yeah. We have to take a stand against the abusive women. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, that, to me, that's like, I don't know. Okay, are you a jealous lover if you're with a guy that you really love? I would say I'm very possessive. Yeah, I'm very possessive. But I'm also really realistic, so I don't really know where I fall in that.

I would just prefer, like, honesty and just always knowing the truth. But, I mean, I can't help my emotions. When I share my body with somebody, I'm, like, extremely. extremely tied to them and just like want them all to myself and like um yeah those jealous feelings and those possessive feelings come through but not in a slapping my man the way though right so wait okay yeah me and you are hypothetically if we were in a relationship okay and like would you prefer for it to be completely exclusive or do you think that there's room for experimentation or one party

venturing off with somebody else from time to time. I would definitely prefer exclusive, but like I said, just kind of being realistic. I feel like men are a bit animalistic and I don't know if monogamy is sometimes always works for men. But if my partner or my lover is significant. If

he started opening up the conversation to inviting women, you know, women and all that, then as long as there's honesty and openness, I think, you know, good conversation and making me feel included or comfortable, then I think that, you know, it could be a beautiful thing too. So if we're dating and I hit you up and I say, hey, I met this girl at the ball. Okay. She's gorgeous.

Okay. She wants to come over. Is that something you'd be open-minded about or I don't know. Is that something that would bother you? I would ask a lot of questions. I would be open-minded. I guess I would better assess a situation if I was in it. Yeah.

How about you? How does that usually go for you in those scenarios? Well, it's actually convenient with my wife and I'm because we do content, you know? Yeah. So maybe when we were younger before we had kids and everything, it would be a little bit more possible to say, hey, I met somebody. would you be open to them spending the night with us that sort of thing right but now like I mean our time is just so like fragmented because we're just like I work all the time she works a lot but then she's also you know obviously carrying like a little bit more of the burden in terms of the kid

yeah so in that regard we don't do a lot of sleeping around off camera but I can for sure you know meet a girl and send her Instagram to like the group chat that like is our business and be like hey would you like to shoot with this girl right because I think that's part of it with my wife too she's very safety concerned and you get kind of spoiled in the porn shit because it's like everybody's tested right there's no emotional involvement you know I feel like that's the weird part is like if I was like hey I want us to like have it through some of this girl I just met she's going to be thinking like there's probably some kind of emotional connection if you're just bringing somebody in like that whereas with the porn thing maybe that could happen but historically

for us it doesn't really yeah everybody's just kind of business as usual right what uh sparks your interest like what makes you excited and makes you give her that phone call to be like hey like what about a woman do you like what piques your interest in that moment i mean physically obviously probably But I guess I was almost clowning you before for saying the thing about you liked academics because he liked you. But my wife always makes fun in me because she says that like my type is like crazy fan. Crazy fan. Oh, oh, oh. If a girl comes up to me and she's like, oh my God, I want to fuck you.

I love your podcast. Oh, yeah. Like a worshipping energy. I love that. Because you're not supposed to as a dude. Like that's supposed to be as a famous person, you're not supposed to fuck fans. Oh, isn't that like the best person? Well, I mean, I can see the value for sure, but then also like, okay, devil's advocate people would talk about like the power dynamic differential and it's kind of weird if you're, you know.

But you're like their fantasy and you're giving them a sense of pleasure for an excitement too. Right. Who am I not to engage that? Exactly. Right? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Lena. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't mean to go against what. She believes. No, she gets and appreciates that about me,

even if she likes to give me a hard time about it, I think. Yeah. Oh, I need my man to be so excited for me. I need him to feel like it's the first day he's ever met me. Right. That excitement is, you know, it's definitely my driving force. It gets me excited. How hot you are for me is, it makes me even hotter.

Right. You're like a phone sex operator. Like the way you speak and shit, like the softness of your voice. Like, not that I ever like pursued a phone sex. sex operator, but I've probably seen in like TV and movies when I was a kid. But yeah, I mean, it's like mixed messaging with my wife too, because it's like, on

one hand, you are the most beautiful woman to me in the world. And I would be overjoyed to spend the rest of my life with you. But then the other side is as long as we're young and having fun, yeah, let's experiment a little bit. Let's get some other girls involved. Why not? Or even dudes.

Yeah. Because she shoots with other guys from time to time. as well. Really? How do you feel about that? Um, at first, I was a bit more conflicted about it. I mean, it was always primarily a business thing. We've never really done that for just pure pleasure, you know? Oh, really? Yeah. So she can't phone you and be like, hey, I see this really hot guy at the bar. That would be a problem. For sure, I can put myself in how she would feel like in the prior scenario of me going to the mall and meeting a girl. Yeah. For sure, if she was like, hey, I just met this really hot male stripper. I want to. Oh my gosh. So it doesn't go both.

ways. Okay, so like I said, we don't really do it off camera anyway. Okay. So everything's kind of like pre-arranged. Well, what if she wants to? What if she gets the hots for somebody and calls you? See, okay, just this verbiage right there. Gets the hots for him.

That could be a problem, yeah. Get my hots for. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's human nature, you know. It's so much easier for me to understand it when it's, when it's you. Content. When it's like, oh, she's slept with this dude. he's got an 11-inch dick,

but it was just for the video. And so, okay, maybe she enjoys it while she's doing it, but, you know, it's clearly like being done for the purpose of making money. That's a lot easier. Whereas if it was like, just some pure,

hey, I just want to fuck this guy. That would be, that would carry a little bit of a different weight mentally for me. I probably wouldn't be certain to that, yeah. But I mean, I've fucked with other dudes before and shit. Yeah.

Does it pose like a little bit of a threat for you? I think that the level of trust in the relationship makes it so it doesn't feel like a threat, you know? So she can call you then. Okay. But it being done under the guise of like content makes it, like I haven't had to cross that bridge of like her just wanting to fuck it. Because I don't really do it either. Like, oh, I want those girls just come over and we're just going to have fun. Yeah.

That's like kind of a different thing. When it's content, it just feels different. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So there's a different element that you haven't really explored yet. Right, because we have talked about that, about, like, swinging, potentially. Like, maybe we would go out with another couple and we take turns with each other at a certain point or something like that, you know?

I kind of appreciate the idea of it. You don't want to do that. We haven't crossed that way yet. It's okay. It's good for a man and not want to share you either. Yeah. That's really hot too. Yeah, like if I wasn't possessive, that would be a little weird, right?

Oh, yeah. It's hotter when you're possessive. Okay, thank you. Yeah. But wait, it's hotter if you're possessive, but then you're able to be open-minded as well? Like, let's say hypothetically if my partner was open and liked to be with someone else. But I couldn't. I would, I would just mess with them, you know.

I'm the type I would. just like I mess with him a little bit like ooh so I saw this hot guy and just that at the gym and blah blah like can I take him home never really having intention to do it but just just to do it and him feeling a little bit jealous and getting him worked up it that excites me so I think that's sexy maybe it's like just from looking at your Instagram and everything but I feel like you are just like a purely sexual being. You're just kind of like when you're not having sex, you're kind of just chilling around the house,

thinking about having sex of the future. Do I have you wrong, or is this like something that occupies a big part of your mind on a day-to-day basis? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, because it's not something I can really like act on all the time. Why not? Because.

You just don't always have the right guy around. No, it's just like when I share myself like that, I definitely want to be in love, like be in lust. I love being in lust. I want to have like a chase. I want to have like the honeymoon phase. I love the obsessive energy, like the, I just can't stop thinking about you. I've just been, you know, dreaming about you. You're in my mind.

It's not like that, you know, working up to that. And I haven't really opened myself up to anybody to get to that. point. I haven't really liked anybody enough really, but when I do have that, I just, I want something really special because I want to just like really give it my all and really just have my way. So you feel like you have a pretty high bar that needs to be met for a guy to really like earn that level of attention from you? Yeah, it's definitely not just physical. I would say it's physical. and then it's connection, conversation, charm, and just if we can banter a bit

and how comfortable he makes me. Yeah, you just kind of know when you have a spark, you know, kind of like when you know. But it's like you, I feel like, are attracted to guys who are very busy, very powerful. Yes. They're not necessarily the types of guys who have a lot of time to just sort of lounge around

and do whatever sensual acts you might be thinking of. I don't know. It feels like a kind of natural contradiction because you're attracted to these sort of high-powered guys who might be like the definitive type of guys that don't necessarily have enough time to be able to be there all the time for what you're interested in.

For my appetite. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So when I get it, it like, It's definitely like I feel hotter and sexier because they made the time for me. And I like that they prioritize me. I guess that excites me too.

So if a guy has too much time, I guess what you're... He's a loser. No, he's not a loser. Yeah, if he has too much time, he's probably a loser. Or just like a rich kid or something. I've never really had like a boy toy. I'm kind of scared to have a boy. boy toy meaning like a guy who's like good excess at sex but he's like too accessible he's just like

around he's like free just like super ready all the time because some of the like only fans girls that I know who make a show little money yeah that's the archetype that their boyfriend falls into is he's just like he's cool he's chill he sits around rolling blunts all day or whatever and he's he's dope he's a nice guy but he's not he doesn't have that like crazy entrepreneurial business mind state that, you know, myself or maybe some of the guys that you've dealt with are on where I want to be working, you know, bare minimum eight hours a day. Yeah. Well, as I said, too, I'm newly single, so I'm just like exploring my freedom.

And I've never really tried, like, somebody who had a lot more time for me. And that could be nice, too. I'm kind of scared of it, too, because I don't know, I would never want to, like, make them fall in love with me and like break the heart or anything to you know like what if you can't go into it being scared or breaking their heart yeah she broke him plenty of hearts i just don't want to i just want to be careful with people's emotions i feel like it's not just sex too you know interesting have you ever been the unicorn what's that like the couple and then you're the third who's sleeping with the husband and wife that i'm the third so you're the third who's coming into the same

situation and spicing up their sex life? No. You never done that. Not physically maybe. But I do have fans who I think are they fantasize about me being like that unicorn, I guess. Could you imagine yourself being open to that kind of scenario? I don't think so.

Jay-Z and Beyonce summon you. We want to spend a night with you. It's just a random name. I'm pulling out of a hat, but I highly doubt that. they do that you probably know about it if they did that but like if that was you know I'm trying to think of like a well you know never say never so we'll see but right now I'm trying to envision that if I would I would have to be really attracted to the woman and make sure that she was okay with it first Beyonce pretty attractive right yes interesting where did you grow up I grew up in the

Philippines. Oh, until what age? Six. Six. Yeah. And then you came in America? Yes. And you settled where? California. Oh, so you live in California still? Yes. Nice. Trying to get me to have a stockers at him. No. You feel free to be perfectly vague about that. I was just curious, you know? Where are you from? I'm from New Hampshire. Oh, nice. Which is really kind of like the Philippines. It's basically just some place that people don't really know that much about. Yeah. So when did you embark on this journey? I mean, I moved to New York when I was like 20 and I was in Brooklyn and Queens for like six, seven years.

And then I moved to Long Beach in 2009. And then just sort of like steadily upgraded my parts of Southern California that I've lived in. But my wife and I bought a house like 2019 or something like that. Nice. When did you guys meet? We met in 2016 Oh nice

On Instagram Oh cute She DM me Okay That was enough Love a girl who goes for it Yeah I mean she actually was DMing me

About something work related She worked at an agency Remember arsenic I do Because she said that she found out About you back when she But she wasn't doing anything Related to her looks at that time

She was just like an assistant Or something And so that's a she was email or she was DMing me to try to get me to interview these two random models okay from this agency and so then I basically twisted it on her and said actually let's go out for a drink oh my gosh I love that that's so sweet it's kind of sexy she's like the girl that's like kind of the you know behind the scenes Cinderella yeah exactly she was scrubbing the floor and I helped elevate her in life right no

It's not like that at all because me and her were both like not really doing terribly well for ourselves at that time. So like that's actually the weird thing about our relationship is that the entire time that her or I have been like famous or well off financially has been while we've been together. That's amazing. Life before Elena broke BMX dude because I rode bikes for like 20 years before the podcast thing. Yeah. And then and she was just like a regular. girl and then since we've been together has basically been the part of our life where we've been, you know, well-known. She's the apple of your eye. She is the apple, my her. That's sweet.

And she's Armenian. Oh, I love that. That's great. Which is great. She's the Armenian of my eye. Oh, that's so sweet. Wait, so are you in the adult film industry? Yes. Okay. So, you're a porn star or a content creator? Or I don't know. I mean, yeah. We interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her as part of our podcast was available at plug talk.com, Daphne Joy episode coming soon, right? I assume that's what we're doing her, right? Yeah. No, yeah.

She got me into it. Okay. Basically. When I met her, she basically told me about OnlyFans. Right. And she said, do you think I should do this? Right. And I said, that's started.

Like, nobody's going to pay 20 bucks a month to see you naked when they could sign up for a porn site. Right. And she said, well, a lot of people keep asking me to do it. Little did you know. Little did I know. She made like 30 grand on like week one. Oh, that's amazing. So that kind of changed her life all of a sudden. Yeah. So I did see when I was studying you a little bit. I did see that um there was a little controversy with you and another male actor or content creator and it was kind of a three. You guys were all three together um you're probably thinking of jason love yes yes so that was who she shot her first scene with another guy besides me with yeah which is the biggest only fan scene of all time no way yeah that's what they

say how do you feel about that in hindsight um it was a fun well lark i mean she shot like with a few other guys since then and uh yeah i mean it felt like a a fair scenario given that i probably shot with like a thousand girls with her over the last 10 years Yeah. So. Did it turn you on a little bit? A little bit. Yeah.

I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. I got a little bit of that, a little bit of that bad boy in me, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah. What part of it, like, started to turn you on? Probably just seeing her getting banged by this, like, huge black dick, I guess. Like, it's weird.

I never, like, thought that I would have been that into it. But then when I actually saw it, I was kind of like, ah, okay. I got a little bit of that dog in me. Mm-hmm. And how did it feel just having to watch? Were you taking parts? No, I saw the video after the fact. What?

Oh, I thought you were like present. No, that's like a weird assumption or like rumor that people have is that they think that I filmed it. Oh, so you weren't even present. No. Okay, I see. It's different. Yeah.

You think I should have been present? I think so. I think that it, I mean, I'm not going to tell you what to do. with your I feel like it would have made her nervous. Really? Yeah. I don't know. At least for the first one, I think it was pretty good.

But I've never been there to like just see her shoot with her guy. But we've done like three sims with other dudes. Oh, you have? Yeah, yeah. So you've partaken. Yeah, yeah, just not that first one. Oh, I see. Okay.

So when you're partaking, how does it feel? Like what excites you, the moment that it starts to happen? or like which part is like the turn on what's the lead up that makes you get like is it her enjoyment is it him is it the atmosphere i'm gonna throw a big old no homo on no one but i mean yeah i mean i guess i i would say that it's hot to me in the same way that like i'll watch a porn scene of a girl looking up with two dudes at the same time and that's turn on so then And you can kind of separate the emotion from the physical. Yeah, I think I've, like, been able to do that as time went on.

Yeah. The first time, it was a little nerve-wracking, a little bit. You know, you don't know how you're going to feel, and you're actually in that moment, you know? Yeah. But once you get into the moment, yeah, it was great. Was it, though? What, you don't think? I'm not totally convinced, but that's a way.

Really? Well, you're not convinced that I thought it was cool? Yeah, no, I'm not totally convinced. convinced but that's okay no for sure like there's there's moments of us having done content with other guys that are very much like seared you know how you have like a a collection of like the sort of like hottest things that you've done in your life that you kind of like might reference back to when you're forced to masturbate from memory okay oh so some of those scenes coming those have sort of made it into the spank bank as they call it yeah I think that's fair to say Yeah, as long as you're into it and you like it.

Okay. I feel like you, well, I mean, you've been with guys who, that was sort of their fantasy. Maybe. To see you with another man as well as themselves, right? I've heard rumblings. Yeah. So why is it hard for you to believe that I would be cool with it? Because I know how it feels to not be, I know how it feels to not be.

I know how it feels to maybe fulfill my partner's desires more so than mine because I love them so much and I just really want to make them happy and I just like really want to see them completely fulfilled so sometimes if that's their desire and their want what does that mean for you? It means that you're kind of agreeing

you know but did that, was that your was that your own you know what I'm saying I mean I think you know where I'm going with the impulse though like comes from the fact that we know that it's going to be profitable more so than like hey let's let's just do this with this other guy because we feel like it right we never really like got to that point got it which I could I could see that as well like especially now that the band-aids kind of been ripped off and it's like I'm I'm used to it or I'm like it's been normalized to me. Yeah, because for prior to now speaking you a little bit more, I truthfully, and pardon if you don't like this word, but I honestly thought you were more in like a cuck kind of world. Okay, so, yeah, cook typically designates that the guy wants to be in like a subservient or like humiliated position. You ever heard the term hot wifing? I'm learning as I go

Right so hot wiping is kind of like the more it's like Essentially the same act as what might be because there's like a kind of type thing But it's like where a guy appreciates seeing his Girl with another guy just because he thinks it's hot And he doesn't want to be like Denegrated you know because like even before my wife I spent time with other porn performers and like I mean for sure I've seen some of this content that was like

really weird involving them where like the dude would be like sitting in the corner and he's just like you know sort of just watching I'm like for sure I don't have any desire to be like made to feel less than as part of that yeah it doesn't have to go to that like humiliation like lane for sure I feel like um it's just something that can just be simply naughty you know so it's not like I don't I don't find that it's a bad term. Right. It's just like a naughty term. I just don't.

I mean, I accept that that's what people are going to call it, just because people have like kind of a oversimplified version of what the cuck thing means. Right. But it's very layered. Within our porn star community, they wouldn't call me that because I don't have like the desire to be humiliated as part of it. Right. And in fact, if, you know, if the guy.

If the other guy were to in any way, you know, be anything other than like totally cool about it. Yeah. That would be upsetting to me. Yeah, for sure. And I would probably like go shoot them or something. Oh, yeah. Not like actually shoot them, but like I would like be really pissed off, you know. Yeah, got to keep it respectful, sexy, comfortable.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So if you were to do a role play, if you were to do a brand new scene. A role play. And it's you and your wife and another man. And now with this like newfound word or interest that probably peaks, because there is a, there is a lane for that. There are people who are very fascinated with that thing and remove the humiliation aspect of it.

But you're kind of playing into that. How would that scenario go for you? I don't know. I've never done like a role playing. You've never done role playing? Well, you give me an example of what you've done. role playing. Like I'm pretending to be a power ranger

and then she's pretending to be the other power ranger. I never like put on a mask. I never like showed up with like a bucket and a mop and I was like, I'm the janitor. Right. Hey.

Oh no, what are you doing? I mean, you know, the porn skit thing. Right. That's a thing. But we don't really do a lot of that. I think just from speaking of you, if I were to choose a roleplay for you that I think might be spicy

and fun. I think it would be like you're coming home unexpectedly early and yeah. And I find her and you see the door just slightly cracked open

and you're like, this is weird and you see like a footstep mark that's not usually there and then you kind of hear some sounds. Okay. It sounds like cheating This is a role play

But so in the scenario that you're describing I'm just like hyped on this Okay But no that's I'm asking because that's Well that's our name right I would be upset I'm like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah

Is this upsetting you I can stop No no that's cool I'm okay with like Hearing out your fantasies Where were we Wait so okay Yeah Question.

You really love your wife and I love that. I do. I love that so much. Yeah, she's amazing. You just want to devour her. Yeah. You and only her, her, just you for you.

I love that energy. I know, you're really getting me worked up. Yeah, you just like, wow. Yeah. I really love and I admire that. I love that for you guys. Yeah. It's very important.

That's important. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. You started as a video, Vixen? I did. What was the first video you ever did? I just talk about present tense

Okay Yeah But you did that for a long time Or? A little bit Okay Yeah So I have to rely on the Reddit sleuths

To go figure out your IMDB I just do like social media I just do social media And just post on Instagram and stuff And not my only fans What do you do you have like aspirations To do things outside of Only fans Like

I'm figuring it out I mean I feel like This is very new for me. A lot of people were even commenting that they've never even heard me speak. That is true. I was like astounded when I like searched her interviews with you and couldn't find anything. Yeah. I found like little tiny.

I actually didn't even watch it, but I seen like something from like 12 years ago, but I didn't even watch it. Yeah. I like to just, and I don't mind like people, you know, just creating their own thing about me and whatever. I just, I don't really speak. I just kind of go on with my life. Do you feel like you're like playing a character in a way because you don't really want people to necessarily know. Like, I feel like there's probably a lot of elements of your personality

that you don't want to be out there. You kind of would rather people just know you for the sultry sexual part of your existence. I feel like they're getting to know it now more than ever. But even like on the academics one you did as well as kind of on this one, You're keeping it confined to a particular. So back to the role play. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so.

So now I am the one getting interviewed about your fascination with the porn industry. I mean, it's fascinating, isn't it? No, it's fun. I'm happy to shepherd you into this, yeah. This is, oh, okay, well. Well, I mean, I can't help but think that there's part of you that is, like, wonders what it would be like, if. your life had gone in a different direction and you decided to be a porn star. Do you ever thought about it when you were younger?

No, but I like being my man's porn star for sure. Okay. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. So, you open the door. Oh, my God.

Okay. And so, but I can't, like, okay, maybe I'm bad at role playing, but it's hard for me to imagine opening the door and seeing her with another guy. guy and not being just driven into a frenzy. Yeah. Because I feel like the whole thing that makes us able to step outside of our relationship is the trust, right? Right.

That I don't feel like she would ever do anything sexual outside of my purview. Like everything has to be like authorized and approved by me. Yeah, absolutely. So it would be hard for me to get into this roleplay thing of me like walking in and being anything other than furious. Well, let's pretend that you guys had really open, honest conversations, that she's been really like wanting to try something new. And if you'd be open to it, that she's like going to surprise you one day and you'll just never know.

Wow. And this is the day. So you're pre-prepared. And you just got to go with it because you love your wife and you want her happy, right? I feel like surprises are weird. Come on, Adam, be open. The same way, okay. Okay, so for instance,

me her and another girl is a lot less emotionally complicated than me her and another dude, right? I see. But I could never imagine just showing up with a girl. I'm like, surprise. Yeah. I brought a baddie home. Right, but maybe it's just.

She needs to be like prepared for that beforehand. Yeah, just for funsies. Yeah. So what if she made you feel comfortable and like, Okay, this is it. I don't think so. It's just not, that's not, surprises. Like, okay, you might have to, like, know my wife to know that she's a very neurotic,

detail-oriented person, like, everything that we're going to do. Like, my schedule is mapped out weeks in advance, as is hers. There's, like, very little left to chance. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Okay, well, that's enough for the role play then. Okay. Okay, give me your, all right.

what's your role-playing scenario that gets you excited that is completely outside of things you would actually do in real life what's a role play that would get me excited yeah like I guess the one that I was storytelling right now okay so you wouldn't actually have a guy come over and then surprise your husband by you getting drilled about this dude Yeah, without absolute conversation.

So you would not do that, but you kind of like the idea of it. Yeah, it's a role play, right? I mean, it's roleplay by like the same physical thing would be happening. It would just be like not a total surprise versus you might be role playing as it being a total surprise. Wait, can you say that in Lehman's terms? Uh. So the scenario, I don't know. That's okay.

Yeah. I don't know. I've never got into the whole like role play concept. It's fun. Yeah? Well, give me an example of something you've done. Oh, yeah. Okay.

So, hmm, I guess. Now you've got me bashful. Well, I know you're only talking about the past, you know, but you want to keep it all about right now. So presently, if I were to do a role play with my man, once we got comfortable and we just wanted to. wanted to get a little spicy and do something fun. I guess the role play could be.

I'm like cleaning my house and I'm like in a bra and panties with my hair up. And I hear a knock on my door and I'm like vacuuming and I don't know who it is. And I open the door and it's like a delivery person. Okay. And he's like super hot. Okay. Been working all day, and he's got, like, a package for me, you know, and I could see some pecks. Some pecks.

Yeah. He's on TRT or not? What's TRT? Testosterone replacement therapy? I wouldn't know. So he's kind of jacked up. A little bit more yulped up than you need to be an Amazon guy? Yeah.

Okay. Just like, you know, fantasy. Uh-huh. And then, I don't know. We'll see. So you... I don't really know where to go from there, but... You start hooking up with him, knowing that your man is going to be home.

Well, he has to, like, riz me up a little bit, right? Okay. Have a little charm. Right. Like, so, hey, I got this for you. I saw your name on it. Just kind of, like, prolonging the conversation. And I'm just, like, you know, getting into the vibe and the charisma.

And then I'm just like, you look like you need some water. I don't know if I ever met a delivery guy with charisma. Like, maybe some of charisma. but not like enough charisma to like hey why don't you come in why don't you bang my wife real quick i mean it's just roadway right yeah yeah i guess as a woman i guess i get weighed down by like the the actual practical considerations right in my head i'm like well i never met a delivery guy that seemed up for the job so what's your sign sagittarius i see yeah you didn't tell that um a slightly yeah i feel like it it says a lot about people what's your sign aquarius

Okay. Yeah. I don't know anything about it. What does the say about us? Um, I think we're both free-spirited. Yeah, I think that's what Sagittarius and Aquarius are. Open-minded, free-spirited people. Okay, I'll say that, yeah.

Yeah. That works for me. Yeah. Feel open-minded. Yeah. I can tell. Have you and I continue to talk after your conversation? Because, like, I feel like you guys actually seemed like you were going to hook up.

Really? Yeah, by the end of that. It's so funny because we were getting a lot of comments saying, like, I feel like I was on a virtual date. That's definitely what it felt like. Yeah. I mean, I think he's amazing. I think he's super funny, and his journalism was amazing.

I was really pleasantly surprised at his questions and his commentary, and, like, I knew he would make me laugh, and he made me laugh so much. And, yeah, he's just really, like, outlandish, and it's just, funny. Yeah, no, he's a funny guy. Yeah, because we talked about it. We were both given sort of the, I mean, people are probably assuming this,

but we were both given the same stipulations about how you wanted to guide the interview. Yeah. So it's been going well, though. It's being received well. And as far as would he have a chance

or a date with me? Yeah. Maybe. Would he have to come out of pocket to go on a day with you? Or is it the kind of thing where he would be a, able to get by on just personality because he kept bringing up like the money aspect of it and I think like

probably a lot of us a lot of people out there wonder like could I be a broke dude or at least like you know a guy with money who's not necessarily like coming out of pocket and be able to win somebody like you over oh I mean as I said to him I definitely um I like for a man to just go big and you know show me what they've got before you know right getting on a first date with me so whatever that means for them how is that kind of transaction facilitated like hey i'd like to take you on a day what's that cash at oh that sort of thing no no no what what is it like hey i want to take you on a date and i'm gonna give you this necklace when i show up i mean i'm just because okay just from my perspective

it's hard for me to tell how much the world has just changed since I got into a relationship but I've been in a relationship for like 10 years and prior to that you know I was a pretty prolific sex haver but I was a regular guy and I was fucking regular girls and beyond like buying dinner

I just was not spending any kind of money to get late or anything and you know now I feel like the conversation is constantly taking place in the public eye about the fact that, you know, guys who have money are kind of like, you know, it's almost like required for you to like be, you know, I constantly see girls on podcasts or whatever saying, you know, I couldn't be in a relationship with a guy unless he's paying my rent and he's doing this and this for me. And it's like that, I never even considered that

throughout my whole time being single. So part of me wonder is if that's just like high end women who were expecting that kind of thing. And then part of me also is like maybe the world is just changing. It's just changed a lot of the last 10 years where women are kind of like realizing their value. Right. So I do agree with you that the dating world has changed in that sense. But I'm definitely still more old-fashioned in the courting style.

I definitely would like to have a man speak to me and get to know me. And, you know, we get to know each other first. and then we can agree to go on a first date. And on that first date, you know, it would be nice. You know, if he opens my door, like, you know, pulls up in his best outfit, smells good, looks good, and it takes me to a nice restaurant. And, you know, we just, you know, have nice conversation

and get to know each other. I could do all that. Yeah. It's just when, like, the cash transactions seem like they're kind of required in order to pull a girl. Like, I almost feel. like if I were single that I would rather deal with like you know comparatively like mid girls who are not expecting some crazy transactions in order to win them over versus like be with like a super

hot girl but I'm being expected to like constantly kind of break the bank yeah you know like that that to me is just very foreign like I want you to like me from me of course and that's why I bring up the courting and just having that. I feel like it is a little bit disheartening that like people have, I mean, I don't know, but people have kind of taken the fun out of it. You know, I feel like the fun is the leading up to, it's like foreplay, you know, you want to start from the toes to the legs, to the knees, to the kisses. You don't want to have the whole shabang right there because then it just takes away like the essence of, ah, the unity. Like, you know, the passion and like the love that like the desire you know because as i'm speaking to somebody from

across the table i i start to notice like their ears their eyes they're the way they speak and like their cadence like their hands like you know their muscles like then i start hmm you know i can't really i although i don't disagree with some women who choose to just be like hey you know this is what it is I prefer to have the buildup for sure. I like a buildup, and then we just kind of see from there. And nine out of ten times, or maybe ten out of ten times. If there is like fireworks or sparks between me and my significant other, then they definitely start to want me in their lives.

And then that's when you basically force them to hand over a huge sums amount of money. There's never any force. I um okay like I never understood why a guy would want to get a hooker I see you know that just to me like the whole thing is like if I'm going to enjoy having sex with someone I want them to like want to do that of their own volition right and so the idea that like you would pay for it was always just kind of and I get it like on a practical level I understand um how it's probably a great time saver if you're a guy and you just really really really want to get laid and it's like you know going to the club or being on dating apps until you

meet somebody who you end up having sex with like this very time consuming i can understand how it's probably a lot easier to just pay for it but i just never got into that i feel like i would rather deprive myself of that until i found myself in a scenario where you wanted it and yeah i love that yeah yeah yeah But you're still going to break the bank. You're still going to make that motherfucker pay, huh? I mean, if they want to, if they know it's good for them. If they know what's good for them.

I don't know. Maybe I feel like if I was back on the dating scene, I would probably just have to adjust in some way. I'd just have to figure it out. Yeah, the more you get to know people, the more... The more you have to spend money on them. No, the more you kind of just know them, you know. Yeah.

You figure it out. But I don't know to what extent you're... saying what you actually believe versus like saying what you know is going to be the most attractive to the men out there because like even even you when you're talking about like oh like little dicks are great i like little dicks you're telling act that i'm like i never said that you didn't no oh you did say you preferred bigger no i didn't say that either oh okay well that's smart as the only fans girl you don't really want to you don't want to alienate the tiny population i said it's all about the motion in the ocean yeah that's all they all say No, but, and there's other things that we can do to pleasure ourselves. It's not the end all of it be all for me. Right. But a micro is a micro. Yeah, it's like, it could be hard to have fun with a micro.

I would assume, I don't know. I mean, I feel like I've seen how hard it is to have a micro up close and personal because there was a dude one time. We tried to do a porn scene with this guy who was kind of like a, I'll call him a comedian, for lack of a better word. Yeah. And he had a little curved cock on him. Oh, no.

And we got a porn star that we knew to sleep with him on camera. Was he good elsewhere? Did he have a 10? No. He was just a little short motherfucker with a tiny curved. And I was watching this girl who was like a friend of ours, like riding that thing. And it was slipping out and falling. And it was just in that moment, I really realized how.

Much more difficult it is to get by with a three and a half incher. You got to be clever. Yeah. This guy was not clever. He was actually drunk as fuck. Oh, no. And off Hella Viagra. It was kind of scary.

Oh, no. That sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, it wasn't good. I actually really, really felt bad for the girl. She didn't really talk to us for a little while after that. Oh, no. I think she resented us, setting her up with that scene. You got to make it up there now.

Yeah, we're cool now. This was many years ago. She's, like, married and shit now. Oh, send her like a fruit basket. A fruit basket. Yeah. You're like, hey, just checking in. Hope you're well.

Hope you're good. After that guy gave you really, really, really bad sex like seven years ago. Yeah. It's okay. It's still weighing in your mind and your heart, so. Maybe that I'll make her feel better about it. Yeah. Hey, I'm still thinking about when we made you fuck that little dude wearing a wrestling singlet.

Because I guess he was a wrestler in high school. He had all of his high school like wrestling medals on. And they were all clanging to. together. Yeah. Maybe that was his mojo. It was disturbing. Like,

he's like, you know. He was trying to reconnect with like a better version of himself when he was like at his peak in high school maybe. Yeah. You're a lot more conservative

than I expected. Conservative, how? Just in your conversations. What? I feel like I'm saying a bunch of like really weird things. I don't think anybody's watching this thing.

Oh, he's so conservative. Look at this guy. No, I'm just surprised. I feel like I'm saying. weird shit that like the average guy wouldn't say if anything i feel like you're a little conservative i am yeah yeah and so i'm surprised that in a good way that you are too a little bit you definitely

wholesome oh yeah thank you wholesome okay there's probably nobody at home was thinking that either but yeah yeah definitely you think you do you think your relationship with act would go better than your relationship with me who do you think would be a better power couple you and him or you and me because i'm leaning towards you and him i feel like you guys had more chemistry i feel like you guys had more chemistry i Like he was, because he was sort of like purely risen you up and like heaping praise upon you the whole time, which I feel like that's your, that's your love language. Whereas for me, it's more like just telling weird, random stories. I'm like, you know, it's like, I could understand.

I feel like maybe you're dynamic with him was a little bit more of your style. I mean, you know, I mean, it's, it's, he's a single male. He is. You're married. And his, he didn't tell you about it, but his most recent girl was a, fucking monster. Oh, no. I'm sorry.

Abusive, exposing him. I won't even get into the details, but it was... Oh, my gosh. He probably needs a good woman to sort of erase that memory. Right. Yeah. Are you shipping us? I ship, yes.

Yeah? I've never, I don't think you said that before in my whole life, but yes, I shipped that couple. My wife actually wants to start watching Love Island, and they say that on that, right? Do you watch that? I don't watch it, but it looks exciting. I wish I had time to watch it. I guess that's like a thing that they do is like I ship the couples and you like decide who you ship or something.

I told that I'll watch it. But she told me it's six days a week and like an hour a day of content. Oh, wow. It's not too bad. That sounds like an enormous amount of. Six days a week, an hour a day of content. Well, okay, that's what they provide to the public. Oh, I see.

It's actually, you know, like six hours a week of content. I mean, it just seems like a lot. Did you guys go on Love Island? I've never watched it, so I don't really know what would be involved. Right. That could be kind of spicy. You've seen it? Not really, but it's the architect of it is singles and everybody trying to figure out.

Like you should do one where it's like a married couple is trying to find their unicorn. That does sound good. We actually did like the inverse of that where we did a reality show where we were hunting to find the guy who would be our first boy boy Girl threesome. You were hunting to find a guy that would be your first. Boy, boy, girl, threesome. So the other guy would meet her, me, her. Oh, I see. Okay.

And so we did that. And we had like 12 candidates, and we narrowed it down. Really? So we did sort of do something like that. And people ask a lot, like... How do you pick? Or do you guys both pick mutually, or does she pick? You know, it's reality TV, so it's kind of, on one hand.

we had a lot of like funny characters on it yeah but then we had other dudes who were like professional porn star guys who realistically we probably weren't going to pick somebody who was just funny we were going to pick somebody who could actually do the job right right exactly so um you said you do content where it's you her in another manner sometimes you another woman yeah and uh which one is your preference uh for sure I like doing the scenes with other dudes, but for sure probably more enjoyable for it to just be two women. Although like two women is kind of, I've done it so many times that it's just, you know. Really?

It's like in one or out the other. I like forget about it afterwards. And then I'll like see the clips on Twitter when the scene comes out. And I'll be like, oh yeah, right? Remember that? But when it's with another guy, it's kind of higher stakes. It's a little bit more intense, you know? It's like just kind of.

Definitely more Mental Yeah It's a little bit more of a A struggle But I mean Not a struggle But I

You know the girl thing is just easy Yeah Whereas the guy It's kind of like You know You and this random guy Did you barely know Have to work together

Yeah To fuck this girl Right I mean Imagine two dudes Having to like Time their loads you know it's like you go your whole life not jerking off with another dude

and then all of a sudden you're like jerking off with another dude at the same time so you can hopefully come on the girl's face at like the same time i mean that's it's weird it's definitely not something i really like pictured myself doing when i was a kid you know yeah you're sure oh my gosh i never thought of it from that perspective that's more like not challenging but there's more elements to to getting the perfect moment and shot and Yeah. Yeah. So how do you stay, like, so aroused?

You know, you just got to be a freak, really. Right. Yeah. For sure. Some of these guys do different things to stay in the zone. But I'm more of a natural performer. Yeah. Have you ever, I don't know where that question was going to go.

Have you ever used erectile dysfunction medication to enhance the experience? Sure, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. around the honey packs and the rhinos and whatnot. Yeah, I never really went to like the full Viagoras, the Alice or anything.

I feel like that might be a little too much. Right. But there's definitely something to be said for those. Yeah. I think it's good for the woman. That's nice for you. Oh, the women do it too? No, I think it's good that you do that for the woman also.

It's, you know. I only don't want to have to shoot like multiple times in a day. Right. Yeah. But it, yeah, that's good. You're giving it you're all. Yeah. Yeah.

I was actually having a weirdly similar conversation. about this with Michael Blackson earlier. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, and? Probably rather have it with you. Okay. Yeah.

Let's talk about it. He's like an older African man, so, you know, which is cool. But you'd rather talk to me about it. I'd probably rather talk about my penis with you, yeah. Okay, cool. Do you have other media appearances scheduled? Possibly, yes. I told my boy DJ Vlad that I would encourage you to go see him as well.

Oh, really? Yeah. I'm getting my feet wet a little. I feel like, you know, my thing is, since I'm a topic of conversation in the moment that I would join in on the conversation a little bit. Right. And just kind of have a little fun with it.

Well, I will probably ease some of your fears and let you know that ACC is proudly Jamaican enough that he doesn't eat. Yeah, I'm kind of on the other end of the spectrum where I'm very much appreciative of that. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. That's great.

I mean, I don't feel like you're, you're not really like taking advantage of the situation enough unless you get your face in it. Right. You're not really taking advantage of the essence of a woman if you're not making her squirt and firing off down there. You know, I mean, if me and you are hooking up and I don't, you know, taste the groceries. Yeah, and I'm not just talking the, I got to eat the ass too. Oh.

For sure. Wow. Is that foreign to you or that's just regular? You know, it's, it's happened. I definitely have experience with it, but I feel like it's more of a pleasurable thing for the man. I'm still, I like the freak aspect of it. Because it's like, yeah, put your face in there.

Yeah, get in there, yeah. Dirty animal. Yeah, get in there. And I like that they're so, like, freaky with it and everything, but to actually derive like absolute pleasure from it. I don't think I've gotten to that like climactic point, if that makes sense. It's more just like a freak nasty moment that's happening

and it's like, and then I'm into it and we're into it. And you're eating dudes asses as well, I would assume? No. No, you've never done that. No, I'm more of a, yeah, I'm definitely more of a please me, but let me please you. Let me be a little bit more dominant and sometimes submissive, but always really sexy.

So what if the guy, there's a guy you really like, everything's going great, and then you kind of realize at some point that that's like one of his biggest fantasies if he wants you to eat his ass. Right. Is that a deal breaker? Are you going to be able to adjust to that?

A tiny bit. For the record, I don't care that much. I want to eat the girl's ass. The girlie in my ass is like, I could take it or leave it. Okay, that's good. Yeah, it's not really. Yeah.

Actually, I think if a guy's really, really into it that comes off it's kind of zesty to me that's what i was yeah but i didn't want to yeah okay right you get me you never put your finger in there um no yeah because then i would kind of look at the situation a little differently you'd be thinking he's a he's a fruit cake i'd be like maybe i should ship you over to some other woman uh or i don't know or just a dude yeah maybe this isn't the right uh Lane. Right. So you never, what if a guy wanted to get pegged? You know what's interesting is I actually have some girlfriends that I know have done that and I could, I didn't really dive into it too much. Some women really like it for the to be more in a dominant position and they they have

their own joy out of it. I could see them being dominant and taking over and why that that would turn them on. Right. Another girl she was just doing it because she just, you know, was getting through it, whatever. Got paid? No, that was just what her man liked. He wanted to do it, right?

Yeah. Yeah, I have no interest in that, but I also, I will die on this hill that I don't think it's gay if you're into that as a guy. For sure. I think it's possible for a straight dude to wanna have a girl do that, right? So do you think that if a straight man wants that,

that they're actually, other way? No, I don't think so. I think that, again, listen, I asked Chad GBT about this because I just wanted to make sure. But, um, yeah, like, your sexuality is defined by who you're attracted to, not like what part of your body you're deriving sexual pleasure from. Right, because that could, that could be their most arousal part of their body. Well, allegedly, there's a G-spot in there that feels great. So I haven't really experimented it without myself. Once I'm a doctor jammed his fingers on my ass. Oh, and how was that? Well, it was because he needed to stimulate my prostate

Because he thought that I might have an infection Like I was dealing with something I forget exactly what it was at the time But he wanted to see if I had a prostate infection basically And the way that they would figure that out is basically Puts on a glove Just jams it in there And then a tiny trickle of sperm

Came out of my penis head And he needed to test that Oh Right. So that's how I kind of first, yeah, I don't know. So was it a tiny bit orgasmic? I wouldn't say it felt good in any way. But it created enough.

Which I don't know why I couldn't just beat off, but, you know, he told me. I think it's probably specific to that. I guess, yeah. He didn't really give me a lot of warning either. Right. He just kind of did it. Did it? Does it make you question your sexuality this moment?

I'm just kidding. I've had multiple colonoscopies too. Okay, yeah. I'd be getting torn up down there from time to time. So. But only in a medical setting, guys. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Yeah, disclaimer. Disclamer. Only in a medical situation. Right. So you could see how it could be a thing for some men. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't judge guys who are into that. I mean, I know dudes who are like ostensibly straight guys who do porn where girls peg them

with strap-ons or whatever. And I'm not going to lie, it's like kind of challenging for me to know that about them just because I very much grew up in a culture where that was not really. A thing. Yeah. It's kind of frowned upon. But, you know, I definitely don't think it makes you gay or anything. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. Even though I'm really like deep down inside, I do think it makes you gay. But the more like woke self-aware version of my soul. is like, no, that's not gay. Your biology is like, okay, that doesn't make you that way. But maybe your beliefs are like, no, man. You like it. There you are.

You grow. You get woke. Right. You believe that, you know, things are not gay. And then like, but deep down inside, you're like, that she's gay as fuck. But, you know, whatever. You said it. Okay.

I feel like I hit like all my. questions basically. Oh, okay. What's your turn-up, your ideal turn-up? Like, if you were going to spend a night with a guy. Okay. Are you drinking? Are you smoking? Are you taking any sort of, you know, pill or anything? Like, what would be your ideal blend to carry you through a night? If the plan was like, let's just have a real freaky night. Right. So after we've gone on our first date, gotten to know each other once you're in that place yeah so second date maybe um and let's say i don't know or if we're already on vacation or something we're having wine wine wine wine okay so wine and we just having like lots of good conversations sloppy kisses lots of intense gripping

you know, neck gripping, body gripping, all of that. Yeah, wine, for sure, without a doubt. Okay. Yeah. Wine and really good music. Good music, like what? King Vaugham. Like party next door.

Like toxic music. Well, like Chaudet at first, and then we can like turn it up. You want to know what? I had a weird experience the other day where I all of a sudden felt like I needed to have more of an encyclopedic knowledge of R&B because my wife and I you know, we're like in this scenario at the end of the day where it feels like we're about to hook up

but we're laughing a lot. We're like fucking around with each other. We're joking with each other. We're tickling each other. I love it. But it's like it was kind of like it felt hard to like get out of like this jokey mode that we're in

into the sexual mode. Right. Right. And so I said, okay, boom. Because a lot of times we don't put on music when we sleep together, you know? But so I grabbed the. remote and I just you know the first thing that popped into my brain when I started thinking R&B because I'm like a total casual when it comes to R&B I was like boom Jodacy oh my god yeah good for you

and then we started watching some like Jodicy music videos and I'm not gonna lie I came off like a little too corny it didn't it didn't take away you know we're trying to like kind of move past the like giggily joky part of our night yeah and it really felt like Jodicy was like making us laugh more I can see that. You know, it's like these music videos from the 90s and the guys got the flowing shirts and they're, you know, it just felt, it felt more funny than sexy. You like, like, house music? I listened to primarily, like, hip-hop and rock, I guess.

Oh, okay, okay. But, you know, and then I searched on YouTube, I searched, like, sex playlist. Okay. And what came up? I don't even know. Just some sort of, like, generic R&B type music that I just know so little about that genre. Yeah. But.

I hear you. I know what you mean. The playlist is so important. And during sex, it can either, like, make or break the situation. Yeah. For me, I listen to the music, for sure. I like to start off with slow dancing and... Right. If you and I were to ever sleep together, God forbid. This is actually, like, what I would listen to. Okay. But I don't necessarily, like, know that you would be able to agree with it. I just want to skip to the vocals. Okay.

Yeah, that was Cannibal Corpse Scourge of Iron. Yeah. Would that be able to get you into the zone? I would vanish in thin air. You would, that's not your style. No. Okay. I totally understand that.

Yeah, I would play more like party next door. Yeah. Cannibal corpse. I'm sorry, but it's not going to work for her. Yeah. Okay. Do you amora, if you had to listen to one artist for the rest of your life, Drake or Kendrick Lamar, who would you pick? Drake. Would you, is there any consideration there?

Do you listen to Kendrick at all? I listen to Kendrick. Here and there, that song was really popular. He was really like pop in the last couple years. Well, he's always amazing and all that. So you went out of your way to listen to Not Like Us? I mean, it was just all over the place. Right. I mean, I understand like hearing it on the radio, but like... Not out of my way now. You know what, okay. Yeah.

That's good. That's kind of a deal breaker for me. Oh, yeah. I mean, I like Drake because he speaks to the girlies and he knows all the little, you know, sexy innuendos and things like that. You don't think Kendrick speaks to the girls? That Luther song. That's a good song. I'm not going on. I haven't dove in completely, so I will say, I'm not sure. I like that. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm open to it. What did Drake gave you the call tomorrow? Hey, come to Turks.

I don't think so. You don't think so? I don't think he would do that. Really? Why not? No. I don't know. Yeah. I mean...

You're probably his type. No, I mean, no, I don't think so. You attracted to him? I am, I mean, yeah, maybe. I don't know. Yeah. You like light-skinned black man? I like energy.

I like confidence. I like, I don't know. Sometimes the looks kind of fade. Me or Drake? Initially, my mouth, my mouth said you. Well, yeah. I'm just going to stop you right there. I'll take you.

Yeah, why not? All right. Probably not too many women that I could ask would say that. Yeah. And I say that with the knowledge that probably a lot of them would lie. Yeah, no, my initial was like you. Really? Yeah.

Damn, so you like white men? Um. Because he's not quite as white as me. I mean, I just, I've never met him. So your aura and like your masculinity, like how much you love your wife and you're like, want to devour her and you have all this honesty and openness and you're like so possessive over her. That's hot.

Yeah. And you have beautiful blue eyes. Some people would think. And you work out. Do I? Wow. Okay. I feel like he's probably got more muscle than me. Let me see your hands?

See what I mean? The wrinkly and old and white? No, they're just like masculine. I've been in the center. We don't know what his hands look like. Yeah, it's just like one of my things. Just hands? They just have to have hands.

Masculine hands. Masculine hands. I feel like my hands could be like bigger and stronger. I have like a little bit of, like I've known guys over the years that just had like that hand that you just look at and it just looks like. Yeah. Like a brick. That's hot.

Oh my God. Like the hook. Yeah. Yeah. Like they can punch a wall. Like if I got hit with that. Like I always have like my whole life. I was like broken little bones in my hands and shit, you know.

I really doesn't look like it. But I know dudes who like had just like a monster brick on the end of their wrist. And I'm just, I've always been kind of jealous of that. Like damn. Like I'm pretty big hands, but you know, just I want my hands to be bigger. Yeah. And I just look at that like and I envision it like gripping all over me. You're really into getting gripped, huh?

Yeah. You're like getting choked? Um, hmm. Hmm. Yeah. Interesting. Anyway, Daphne. That's your government name?

Daphne, Joy. It is. Okay. Yeah. You're not going to tell me your last name? No. Okay. Yeah.

I'm half Puerto Rican, though, so it's like a Spanish last name. Really? Yeah, I'm Filipino Puerto Rican. You ever been in the Puerto Rican Day parade? I haven't. Is there something? That's where I'm going to take you on our first date. Okay.

Yeah. With your wife. Pick you up listening to some Fat Joe. Yeah. Oh my God. He's a Puerto Rico. Sure. Okay.

Or is that big pun? I think that's a big pun. Drake or Fat Joe. Ooh. That's got to be a tough one. Probably Fat Joe. Wow. Yeah.

That Joe would cherish me. Okay. Yeah. So you're just all about being appreciated. And you feel like. Drake would not appreciate you as much as Fat Joe. Yes. Okay.

That's probably a fair assumption. Yeah. You've nailed it. Wow. Yeah. Fat Joe, you're welcome. I really just teed that up for you. Yeah.

But he's off the market. He is. Yeah. He's probably in the market for a unicorn. No, stop. No, you don't think? I'm not even familiar with his like relationship status. L-O-L.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I haven't watched enough of this podcast. know, but I guess he's probably married or something. I will say if you guys ever get into your sexy time, there's a song that I would like for you guys to play. By Fat Joe? No.

It's Janet Jackson, anytime, any place. Okay. It's really hot. Your beautiful wife should maybe, like, just get talled up, like put on a really sexy lingerie outfit, and you just have to sit there and watch her just, like, slow dance for you to this song. Okay.

And have her just, like, strip tea. and it's really hot song. So I think that your R&B, give it a try. I will demand that of her tonight. I'm actually going to, we can listen to that song, but first I'm going to be like, our foreplay tonight will be you watching the Daphne Joy interview with me.

Right? What's going to get her more in the mood than that? Hey, love. I would be interesting to see if she felt like I came off good in this interview or if she felt like I came off a little too thirsty. Oh, I think you're great. I think you've been respectful, wholesome, conservative.

Yeah. This is the only podcast I've ever done where someone told me repeatedly that I was conservative. You're very respectful. Okay. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Even the part where I was talking to you about pagan men and shit.

Yeah. I mean, that's just conversation. That's just chat. Chatting. What's up chat? Right. All right. Anything you want the world to know?

Anything? Sure. I'm on Only fans? the Daphne Joy. Yeah. I would love to talk more to my fans there. Guys, tap in. Yes.

Yeah. You're in the top 0.01%? I am. You are, okay. Yeah. I've been there. We fluctuate a little bit. Really?

I mean, it's just a number. Once you dip down to that 0.03, you start really looking at yourself in the mirror. No, stop. I miss the point of 1. And that's another thing, too. Like, I think that us creators should not look at the numbers too much. because that's when we start losing our essence for it and why people were attracted to us to begin with.

So we have to kind of like, I kind of close my eyes on that. I just want to be myself. And I feel like when I'm just myself, then it's received well. No, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, because, you know, as a guy, if you're a guy with Onlyfans, you know what you got to do if you really want to make a lot of money. What? Zesty shit. You got to, like, bend over and shit.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you haven't done that stuff, right? No. Oh, okay. Way too masculine. I just can't. Yeah. Just do what feels right for you.

To hip hop. I can't show the world my butthole, yeah. I mean, no judgment, but do what feels right for you. Only if you want to do that. Yeah. No, but that's like if you're a guy who gets into the only fans game, you quickly start to realize that that's what your fans want to do. Next thing you know, you're like in a cowboy hat.

You're in a cowboy hat with a fucking dildo in your butt hole for sure. If you really want to like profit maximize. Oh no. Yeah. Well, I'm just like an ad, a cheerleader for just be who you are and just be that. Don't do all that extra stuff. Well, there's a dude I know who I always knew him to be just a heterosexual porn performer, right? Yeah.

And then one day I'm scrolling through Twitter and I see him. And he's got his head rested on like a hairy male ass. Oh, no. He's got his head on the ass. Oh, well, maybe he always liked that. And then finally he feels liberated to be that way, too. And if that is the case, then awesome. Right.

Only if it's in that. In my mind, I was like, oh, I guess rent was due. Yeah. Because he's got his head on this hairy ass. Oh, no. I'm just trying to. That's all I'm trying to avoid in life. Yeah, for sure.

I'm going to use a hairy ass. ass as a pillow. I don't think so. Yeah, I'm going to opt out of that. Davy, Joy, thank you so much for coming on here. Everybody should go sign up for her only fans and see what she's got to offer. I'm sure it's incredible. I still think that one day we'll probably have sex listening to Cannibal Corpse. Oh, like me and you? Yeah, right? And my wife. Maybe in your mind. Well, she's got it. Wait, whoa, I just got a friend zone. I swear AC is going to get it, though. I think AC and you, you're going to have like a long history together. now act

see he's on the top of the list he's got Gaffney joy I'm over here just hugging some dude's ass no very respectful okay you got that ring on your finger I do don't I should love that

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