No Jumper - Day Sulan on Being From Compton, Being Homeless, Stripping, Signing to YG & More

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Day Sulan sat down with Adam for a fire new interview, where she talks about all the hoops she had to go through to make a life for herself, the grind and everything that eventually led to sign with YG! 6:38 - How Day started dancing at 18 "I was raised thinking this is a path I would take regardless. I was able to hide it the whole time I was doing it" 11:47 - "Damn near every rapper that I admire hit on me when I was dancing" + Being in a terrible relationship while being homeless 18:52 - Meeting YG @ AOD and their great work relationship 29:03 - Sacrificing fast money to invest in music + Going to jail for a day for robbery ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper coolest podcast in the world. We got Day Salon on the podcast today. How are you doing? Good. How are you? I'm great. It's nice to have you in here. I feel like what you're doing is big for L.A., for Compton. You're definitely like an up-and-coming superstar that feels like it's being bred right now, right? Thank you. Thank you. I'm working on it. We're in the process. Definitely. So talk to me a little bit about coming up. You were born in Compton and raised there? No, I was actually born in fucking Anaheim. Oh, okay. And I was raised in Compton. I moved to Compton. I was like four.

Okay. So your parents decided to level up a little bit and get the hell out of Amahe, Anahe, come back to the streets? No? No? It was actually weird. My parents wasn't together. Like, they split.

So my mom's dude who she got with was in Compton, and that's just where we end up going. Okay. So you were way too young to, like, realize the difference and the change of scenery that you're going through? No, I was for sure, like, a change in scenery. Like, I noticed it. I was young as first. but I still like, you know, all of a sudden now I got cousins.

Now I got, you know, different people popping up. I'm just like, okay, it's a little different. Definitely. What's this shit? Was it like a crazy place? Would you describe it as a crazy-ass place to grow up? Because, I mean, a lot of times you hear about commas not necessarily as wild as it used to be in the 90s or whatever.

No, it was still wild. For sure, growing up, there was like at least three drive-bys, like cars in front my house shooting at the house next to me. Wow. Yeah, like, nah, it's still wild as far. And so did you? like, did you feel like you were growing up sort of, like, did you want to be a part of that? Or did you, do you want to, like, stay away from it?

Like, what was your mentality as a young person observing that? You know, what was, like, crazy about it was, like, having, like, an Asian mom, she tried to, like, shelter me a lot. Like, she tried to, like, really, you know, keep me away from that. But I was drawn to the lifestyle. So, you know, my little badass, I was sneaking out, like, you know. Really? Like, this is kind of what I am.

Like, I can't run from me. Do you remember a time period, though, where you sort of, like, went from being just, like, a regular kid to, like, quote-unquote, jumping off the porch is how a lot of people tend to phrase it in terms of when you first start, like, going out and just being your own person and wanting to be around all this shit? You know, I ain't really officially jump off the porch until, like, I became homeless. Really? And that was when I was, like, first time was, like, early 17, like, not early, late 17, and then second time was 18. So what had to happen to lead up to that? Like broken family shit It was just too much going on in the household

That was just toxic I was like I can't deal with this shit no more Like I'd rather be on my own And keep dealing with this type of shit So I'm just Distance myself Right There was just too much bullshit going on at home

Was it your mom's dating life That was sort of bringing problems around Or? Nah, not her dating life I mean You know it's like when people Have demons that they never dealt with And they kind of take them out

on you. Like, I felt like that shit from everybody around me. Like, everybody had their problems. So I was really like that black sheep out of both sides of my family. So I was just like, man, I ain't fucking with y'all. I got to go. When you think about like an Asian mother, are we thinking of like all the stereotypes that she just wanted you to 100% go to college? Yes. And were you just not interested? Nah, I mean, I did. Like, once upon the time, I did. But, you know, as soon as a nigga became homeless, you know, that shit, whole change. My whole, I'm like, I got. I got to get a job. I got to start working. I got to start getting to it. Like, yeah.

Plus, I wasn't like no school person. I hated school. Right. I hated school. Only thing I like was art. You never had anything, any interest in the school part of things. I feel the same way. I'm like, it just didn't really click for me during my high school years. I'm very into like learning and reading as I get older, but as a 17 and 18 year old, it just didn't really work. Yeah, nah. School just, it wasn't it for me. Like, I'm like, the only thing, I took the things that I was supposed to take, but. Other than that, all shit I knew I wasn't going to use. I'm just like, what the fuck I need to know about this far? I don't really care.

Definitely. So what was homeless like? Or was there a confrontation with your mom specifically that led to that happen? Yeah, it was just a buildup of shit. And it was a time and point where it's just like I ended up going to like two primes. And they weren't mine. They were like other people's. But like she paid for that shit.

But I ended up like giving her mind. my paychecks. Like I ended up like I had like my first job was at Ross. She was like taking my paycheck to like kind of pay her back for that shit. And I'm just like like this shit don't feel right. Like and it was way more than like what it was supposed to be like three checks down the line. I'm like man, it's not right. Like you you at this point taking from a nigga like I can't. Let me have my little Ross hustle and why you got to try to fuck that up for me. shit. And then at that time, especially, I started Ross. And then shortly after I got hired at California Pizza Kitchen, too, so I was working both now. And I was telling my girl, as I was getting

ready for this interview, I'm like, wow, she worked at Ross and then worked at California Pizza Kitchen, which is crazy, because for me, my ideal girl shops at Ross and then eats lunch at California Pizza Kitchen. That's just kind of my type, you know? Yeah. We on a budget and we also got some good taste, you know? I interviewed the dude that Asian dude, Timothy Daylight, Ghetto's a comedian on Wilden out and shit, and he said that he got fired from CPK because I think he made fun of the uniform on Twitter and so they fired him. Why did you get fired? I didn't get fired.

I left. You left. I left. I started dancing. I started dancing. And it was hard. Like, I was going from Ross, like, early morning shifts to 6 a.m. shifts to California Pizza Kitchen.

Then after that, I go straight home. And then I start working my way to go dance. I'm like, I'm not sleeping. Right. I can't fucking. I can't keep doing this. Like, I got to, like, something got to give. So you were doing all three at the same time, but you moved out with the Ross thing going on.

You were like, fuck this, I'm going to start my own. But I ended up, like, I was staying with my best friend. She was all the way in. She lived, like, right by Crenshaw, Ma. Uh-huh. Fucking Ross was in Long Beach. I had to take, like, two buses in a train. Nah, three buses in a train.

Right. That shit was fucking wicked. Wow. That she was wicked. But who put the battery in your back and told you, like, maybe this dancing thing will pay you a lot more. You know, I was, like, raised in a household where, like, they kind of instilled that shit in me.

Like, they always told me, like, you're going to be walking up Long Beach Boulevard. Like, is that what you won't? Like, what you want, like, the clear, like, the clear shoes and the bottle of all. Like, they always made, like, insinuations. Like, you're going to be a hoot. You're going to be a stripper. So it's kind of in the back of my head, not supposed to be. But I'm like, shit, let me see what it's about.

So your family were, like, trying to scare you? about that path but then at the same time sort of made it seem like a real path option in your head they scared me they was just like kind of just fucked up they just kind of wanted to like you know it's one of the families that like really like brought you down mentally like you like you ain't gonna be shit you ever you ain't ever going to be shit this is what you're going to be like I can see you want a baby they thought I was going to have a baby like 13 whoa yeah that's kind of weird and I was a fucking virgin till like 17 oh really because I feel like a lot of some families like raise a kid like telling them that they could be whatever they want to be and they sort of put them into a positive mind state and it's kind of crazy to hear from somebody who sort of makes it out like their parents sort of instilled like self-doubt in them yes i grew up in that shit so yeah it's it was hard getting to where i'm at now like and just being actually confident and actually believing myself because i was raised by people who only tore me down right damn okay so then at a certain point um

How did the stripper thing, like, pop into your head to really, like, want to try to do that, though? I started doing my research. Google is a man's best friend right now, you know what I'm saying? So I literally Googled it. I'm like, how much damage is to make? You know, I see random-ass numbers. I'm like, man, fucking, I'm going to go find out. So I started DM in different clubs.

Like, Instagram was around at the time, and that's when people building their businesses on there. So I'm just like, okay, let me DM some of these people. And, like, I'm like, you know, see what's up, you know? And the nigger who ran AOD at the time, he's the one who, like, responding was, like, fucking with me. He was, like, hit this nigga. Like, you know, the page told me to, like, hit this nigga. I'm like, all right, well, hit him. And from that point on, that nigga, like, kind of took me in and, like, put me on.

Uh-huh. From your experience, though, like, I'm always so curious. Like, from going to strip clubs in L.A., though, was it – did it feel like a predatory type of thing where you feel like when you look back and now that you were sort of being taken advantage? of or do you feel like they actually had your best interest in mind? Nah, he had my back. Like, I really told that, I told that nigger my story. Like, I told him what had happened. I don't know why I felt so comfortable with him,

but, you know, he's just a real nigga. I could just sense that shit off of people sometimes. And he's just like, you know, I know other things that he do and for him to do that with me and just like, you know, he got me my fake ID. He didn't want the money back, you know? He was just like, you could work here. And then when another club opened up,

He was just like, boom, you could work here, and he didn't want nothing from me. So he really wanted the best for me. Fake ID, because you had to be 21? Yeah, I was 18. I was like, man, I hope you weren't 17. No, I was a fresh 18. I was a fresh 18. Okay.

And I had to be cautious with that shit. Right. Because back then, that vice, that young vice was trying to come get me. Really? They were looking for you specifically? They wasn't looking for me, but I have for show, had some haters to where they always have advice popping up at the club. And I knew it was because, like, you know,

I was one of the only ones at that time that was like young, young. So I'm just like, shit, they try to get me. Wow. Just get me. So, like, do you feel like you just grew up a shit load? Because, like, realistically, the strip club is where, you know, that's, half the time you go to strip club is like, this is all drug dealers slash dudes who run other illegal businesses. The strip club is where all the most jeed up slash scumbag fucking dudes congregate.

Literally. That's why I could say I matured that much quicker. I was already older for like my age. I already grew up very quickly. But being 18 and now I'm fucking with people who 24 to 30 and like it's just it was a whole different ballgame. Right. You just start to find out about so much shit that you wouldn't know about it was. And I literally just took in the knowledge.

I was quiet. You know, I just did my shit. Like I was a dancer. I literally came in, got my money and dipped. I'm like, ain't no reason for me to stay here. Don't talk to me. You know what I'm saying? Like I was real like in and out.

That's kind of like the best way, but I feel like it's almost kind of inevitable, especially in LA, that if you start stripping that it's going to start creeping its way into your social life and shit, that it's going to be hard to keep it separate from just your regular life, right? What's crazy is I was able to hide it for all four years. Really? I was able to hide it. I kept it away from my social media shit. I didn't really promote it like that because, you know, it's just too much things going on.

And like mentally, I was like, damn, I proved my family right. Like, last thing I'm going to do is like, you know, give it to him. Like, I can't do that. So it wasn't that hard because I'm like a real low-key person. So it's not like it was just like, oh, she here, she here, she here, and she danced. Like, I danced and you never seen me after that. You didn't have like rappers falling in love with you at the strip club and stuff. I feel like that inevitably ends up happening. I did. Yeah? I did. Damn there, everybody I had a crush on when I was younger, trying to get at me. And at that time, I was in like a four-year on and off relationship.

So I was like, you know, I got a nigger to go home too, but that shit was fucking. What, the relationship itself? Yeah, that's why I was like on and off for four years. Was it partially because he knew that you were in this environment and he didn't really like it? Yeah, he was for sure insecure a nigga. He for sure couldn't handle that shit. But he also, like, you know, he didn't have shit going on for himself neither. Like, I was taking care of that nigga, basically.

Like, I was low-keyed getting pimped. Really? Nah. Oh, wow. I thought like you should have told that along the way in this story at some point. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. I was just taking care of a little bum, nigga. All he did was he did was he on play games.

It's not like it was like some pimp shit where, like, he was really like, this is my money. I'm going to take it. Like, nah, this is my money. You touch my money. You better put that shit back. Right. Figure out how you can. But you were just, like, convinced that this relationship was it and then you were

stuck with it? Nah, I was just at that time, I literally, like, being homeless. Me and him became homeless at the same time. Right. And we both didn't have, like, nothing. So I'm just like, damn, like, this is all I got. Because I really cut off my family for, like, a year and a half, two years. So I was really just by myself, and it was just really me and him.

And that's really who I thought at that time, like, all I had and that I needed him to, like, keep going. Because, like, I felt like if it wasn't because he became homeless, like, I might have just, like, fell under. Because I don't think I had the motivation to do it for myself at that time. Right. Damn, that's serious. So being homeless, though, were you able to, like, find your way into situations where you had somewhere to stay and stuff pretty quickly? You didn't have too many park bench nights, no? Honestly, no. Like, my best friend was, like, she was there for me. Her family, like, Loki took me in. Like, it was like a, it was like a random night here, random night there. But she was the one that was just like, you know, like, I got you. But I just wasn't comfortable with that because I'm like, this ain't home. This ain't, you know, this ain't. This ain't. You know, this ain't. I belong, just your situation, you know? But his situation was just that much worse. He was in the point where he had to sleep in my best friend car.

So I was just like, damn. Like, I literally gave myself a week. And I was like, I got a week to get a place. And I got a place within that week. Wow. Okay. It was a little shack, but, you know. It worked.

It was a little shack. Holy shit. So were you, like, promoting yourself on Instagram and sort of, like, realizing because, like, it's got to be weird being in that strip club environment, you got a million dudes showing you affection, telling you how pretty you are all day. And then meanwhile, like, you're sort of realizing, like, oh, there's girls building up their Instagram pages, getting a million followers and making money like that. Was that something that you were sort of starting to realize that you thought you might be able to do as well?

You know, I always loved, like, I was always a social media person, like, even as a kid. Like, I got in trouble for trying to be on social media. Really? So my first thought when I started dancing was like, all right, what's going to take me out of this? this shit. And I looked at Instagram, I'm like, I think that's what's going to do it. Like, you know, I just got to build up this as like a profile. Like, I can use it as like a modeling profile. Because at first I wanted to do modeling. Because, you know, I was just like, you know, I can do it even though I'm fucking short, you know, semi-not realistic, but it is.

These days, you can model. You can model. You're short, right? Now it don't matter. But, you know, back then it was still like a stretch. Like, you still had to be that like five, six, you know, I was still kind of like, you know, trying to double my way up in that shit. Five three? Yeah. My girl's five, too, so. See? You're a giant compared to her.

See? You already know. Hard times, you know? Short life. Right, short life. Well, I'm six to three, too, so especially we look kind of crazy, standing nice to each other. Nah, that's the cool shit. Yeah, I like it too.

Yeah. But, okay, wait, so what we're talking about? Oh, just you building up your Instagram and everything. Yeah, that was like a way out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it started, it's actually funny.

I started doing it with other photographers and my nigg. being insecure. He was just like, nah, I ain't fucking with that. So I ended up buying him a camera and I started having him take my picture. So daytime, I was just building up my portfolio. Like, I was using Instagram as like a portfolio. Right. And then nighttime I would dance. Right. And so along the way, like when did rapping start to enter your brain as a potential part of this whole thing? Man, rapping music in general didn't hit me till my fourth year dancing. And it was crazy because I told myself in the beginning of dancing, like, by 21, I'm going to be done with this shit. So by 21, I was, but I just didn't know what I wanted to do.

Like, I knew I wanted to be successful, but I was tired of doing things that ain't make me happy. So I ended up meeting my old manager at the strip club, which is fucking hilarious. And he's seeing something in me. At first, he wanted me to do acting. I'm like, I'm not a good actor. I ain't going to lie to you. Like, I'm not good at acting. And he was like, look, you're a liar.

Nah, I'm not. And then he asked me about music. I'm like, you know, I write. Like, you know, I always wrote poetry, but I'm like, I never really tried to write music, you know. And, you know, he challenged me. He gave me a beat, and it's actually shitty, but it's actually, it's shitty because of the person beat who it is.

But he gave me a fucking six, nine beat. Oh, boy. That little Tati beat. Big Bloods. man that's your OG man he gave me one of

them fucking beats I'm just like why this one and it was such a random ass beat I'm like how the fuck do you rap to this and I felt like

he was trying to challenge me I'm like okay cool so took the beat wrote to it he put me in my first like studio session my first like thing

I got up in there it's time for me to lay it and like as soon as I put on them headphones like I was happy

like I glow like I was just like oh shit It felt right. This is what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, I found where I'm supposed to be at. Like, cool. Got it.

Great. So it was a process before I hit that shit. Like, it was random as fuck. Right. Everything happened at the right time. And so it just started to kind of go from there. Did you have a hard time sort of? Because, you know, it's one thing to have clout from being a pretty girl on Instagram

and then try to transfer it over to getting people to actually pay attention to your music is a very different thing. It is. I mean. Yeah, I mean, yeah I was always like the goofy person on Instagram So it was like goofy, I danced Like, you know, I was doing like just the cute shit But it wasn't, I don't think it was that hard really

Because I ain't shown them too much of my personality So they really didn't get to know who I was Until I really started opening my mouth That's interesting When did you meet YG and how did he play a role into all this? I was crazy I actually met him at AOD I figured

I met his ass ass The AOD. If you're a stripper, you could probably, if you strip for a year, you're going to basically meet everybody in the LA music scene, I would guess, right? Every single person, even people you don't expect to me, it's just like, what the fuck you're doing over here? I feel super out of touch with that. Like, don't go to strip gloves anymore.

Nah, they're kind of garbage. Yeah? Now they are. I got baby on the way. I got to stay away anyway. Yeah. Not the time, not the move. No, yeah.

She's not going to feel about one. Probably not. But, okay, so what was it like meeting him? And how did you end up showing him your music? You know, like meeting him, it was funny. Like, people from the city, like, we just, like, automatically vibe. Like, unless you're, like, a gangbanger, gangbanger, you know, like, I told him, like, what's the deal? Like, I'm from Compton.

Like, we automatically just cool, solid. So from there, like, you know, you just follow me on Instagram, follow them back, you know. We was just regular. It was regular at that. And my old manager, he is the one who was just like, I think I want to link you with YG. and I'm just like, yeah. And I'm like, cool. So at the time, like, I hit him just on some, like, casual shit.

And I, like, let them know, like, hey, I'm doing music. Like, I sent him some shit. I sent them, like, a video I did. And this is before I even laid my first song. It was like a freestyle video that I fucking lost. It's so sad. Oh, really? Man, so sad.

That's a tragedy. Man. It'll be missing from the, like, eventual, like, at one point, they're going to make a whole compilation of everything. everything. Yeah, I'm just like, damn, that was the OG one that people ain't even get to see, but I sent that to him and he, like, called me. He was just like, bro, like, you can fucking rap. Like, he's like, fuck with me. I'm just like, huh? He like, like, fuck with me and four hundred. I'm like, okay. Like, you know, we'll see. And then, like, you know, as I kept doing the music

shit, like probably like three, four songs in, like he called me out the blue. And he was just like, bro, what's up with your music shit? And, you know, it's kind of like a no-brainer to like fuck with him, 400, comp, shit. Like, it just, it makes sense. Right. You guys must have, like, a pretty close relationship because he was actually calling you, like, 20 minutes ago while we were sort of waiting around for like five minutes

before we started this. He'd be worried and shit. I'm just like, man, I got this. He, like, like, a big brother. He'd be like, be cool, you know, got this. Be straight to the point. Like, man, I got this. That's one thing you can say about him, though, is that, like,

He's had his own career and everything, but he's also signed, like, a lot of different talent over the past however many years. Like, he's really a lot of, like, different artists that had a wave going. He got in there and, like, recognized that pretty early. No, that's facts. That's facts. I look up to, bro. He's, he fired. Yeah.

And, I mean, it's got to be kind of crazy because he's, like, been through so much shit in the industry that he just has must have so much shit to warn you about and to tell you to. He do. He do. He do, but he don't even warn me. He just be like, you know, just stay on your shit. Focus on this. Like, you know, don't. Don't let the other shit, like, you know, sidetrack you.

Like, nigga, focus, this is what you got to do. How much does he try to get involved up in the music, like the actual creative process? Because I'm sure he has something to offer in that regard. None. Really? None. He, at now, like, at this point, he knows it's better to just leave me alone and just be, like, me being in a studio, just me by myself and an engineer. Really?

Because then I come out with songs. He's just like, nigga, what the fuck? Like, versus when people be up in there. He'd be up in there and it be different. opinions and shit, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to do what y'all want to do, but it ain't really what I want to do. So, you know, I'm just going to make what y'all want me to make. Right. Got it. But he helped me along the lines of, like, my writing, like, when it comes to writing, because at first I started off of too many words. He was just like, you need to make things more simple.

A lot of rappers have that problem. Yeah, I got that problem. I'd be, like, trying to rap, and he'd be like, nah, you got to, uh, you know, like, tone it down. You got to do some catchy shit sometimes. You got to do this. It's better to fit the flow and say. a lot less than to say too much and make the flow sound a little bit. Exactly. People ain't going to hear that. Yeah, exactly. Definitely.

So he for sure helped me, like, help me in that aspect. So you guys haven't done, like, a full-on collab yet, like being in the studio, really making records? Or have you done that, but you haven't released to yet? We have. We made, like, we try to make, like, like, three. Well, now, we got a banger. We're sitting on a banger.

I ain't going to lie. Really? Wait on it. What that motherfuck going to be far? But the ones before that, like, yeah, we had. tried some shit like you know like the you know how like the trina and the trick daddy how they had they like little talking back and forth shit we tried to do that type of shit is like nah this one cool nah this one all right but i think we tried the third time the third one hit i'm just like okay cool

definitely um does he also like because he could help put you in the studio with all kinds of artists too is he like helped to arrange any of that kind of shit yet um um No, he ain't arranged nothing. I mean, he wanted me to do a song. I had this song that I wrote, and he wanted to put somebody on it, and I guess they arranged for Stunner Girl to get on it. Shout Stunner Girl, I know her. Yeah.

Didn't work out? No. What happened? Not my vibe. Oh, really? You guys just didn't really get along? Not somebody I'd ever, you know. Oh, okay.

Just not my flavor right there. So that didn't work out. And that's how, you know, eventually Ruby came into the picture because, you know, he was just like, man, you need a feature with somebody like, but, you know, you're still up and coming. It's got to be somebody from, you know, the West Side. I'm like, why I got to be somebody from the West Side, you know?

And then I brought up Ruby. And then, you know, they made that shit happen. No, I thought that was a really good fit in general, too. And she's kind of, like, similar to you in that she's a girl who's known on the internet for just being good looking. But then also I feel like her music is really good. Like I actually have a shitload of faith in Ruby. And sometimes I wonder like if, you know,

when like the little TJ situation was going down, it's like people like, I think her music is really good. I think her voice is really good or delivery is good. I think she's a star. So it's like sometimes I hope that that kind of bullshit doesn't like get in the way of that. Yeah, she just,

she can't let the niggas fuck up her shit, man. So what was it like when you guys tapped in though? Was it because, I mean, it must be just totally different energy. It was cool. It was cool. I mean, we first initially met on FaceTime. Initially met on FaceTime. It was cool.

Like, we vibed. I met her in person like 93 days later. Right. And, you know, like, click. We was cool. Like, she was just like, you know, she's like sweet. So, like, you know. She's about the girls, too.

I remember when I met her that she was almost like more trying to like get me hyped on her friends that she was with and shit. Then just hyping up herself. So I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, she far. That's dope. Yeah, and that song is really good too. I mean, um, sometimes like, okay, when Cardi B came out, that was the first time that we had seen a girl talking about stripping, talking about stripping like it was selling crack.

Like, yeah, I did this and I made it out. And now I'm in the position I'm in and stuff. That was the, she was the first girl I heard rap and make striped sound like some gangster shit that she did to make it where she is now. And now with like somebody, you coming out that don't even really like stand out to me as all that crazy. you're like, oh, of course, like a young girl might do that to make some money for a while before music career starts going.

I mean, nah, it's a hustle. It's for sure a hustle. Like, yeah, I play it off. Like, it's some regular shit, but I was working seven days a week because that money is like, that money addicted. That money addicted. And when you get it so easy, you spend just as much. Right.

That shit trap your ass. So you kind of got to, like, keep dancing. Did you feel like you were ever really, like, caking, like, or stacking that money? or was it just kind of always coming and going because you were wrapped up in that lifestyle? No, I was stacking. I was for sure stacking because I wanted to get a car. I'm like, man, Uber's just whooping my ass.

Like, I can't keep doing this shit because I'm the type of person. Like, if I want something, I'm going to go get it. So if my food is 50 miles away, I'm going to pay for that Uber that's $100 because I want that specific food. So I would pay $100 to get there, $100 to get back.

But when you dance, you got it like that. So it don't fucking matter. Like, it don't fucking matter. I'm going to do it. Well, there's, like, certain, like, cheeseburgers that are just that attracted to you. Like, I need that burger right now. No, man. You see, I'm, like, I was raised off of, like, Asian food majority.

So, like, the good-ass Asian food out here is, like, all the way in, like, Westminster or, like, Gardena. And at that time, I was living in Watts. So I was just like, man, I want one of these motherfuckers. And then I'm, like, addicted to Boba. So, Boba alone was, like, $30, like, $30, you know, a $30, you know, trip there. They ain't got no Boba and Watts? Hell no. Hell no.

Not one that I'm going to trust the fuck with. They shit wild. You fought with Hawkins like that, though? Yeah, man, they burgers. Fire. Hawkins is amazing. But I got to stay away from their turkey burgers is fine. Why are you got to stay away?

Because I don't be eating beef no more like that. I got to stay away from that shit. I thought you're saying because it's like right there. Nah, no, that shit fire, though. You're good around there, though? You can pull up the Hawkins is all good? Yeah. You got your Hawkins pass?

Man, that's pool. You got a problem with me getting a burger nigga? What's the deal? No, but when I pulled up to Hawkins, I just like immediately realized like, whoa, this is like, if you're not supposed to be here, they are not going to be fucking with you being here.

They're going to be looking at you like, your purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I almost threw a purple hoodie on there. And my homie was like, he's like, you're with me, so you can wear that, but I could kind of see it in his eye.

He was like, maybe you don't want to wear that. I don't think we want to do that right now. No purple here. I don't want to get pressed. Yeah. That's funny. You got to be careful. So, okay.

Is it kind of weird, though, because music is more of like a long-term hustle, and you, you know, the stripper thing is like cash in hand by the end of the night. Was it sort of hard for you to make that break and decide I'm just going to do this instead of this? Man, hell yeah, because music, music, for one whole year, that shit took everything I had. Like pursuing music, my team was like, you can't dance, you can't do social media shit. And it wasn't that they said I couldn't do social media shit. just they had my account, like, connected to their emails and shit. So I'm like, how I get money is through that shit. So y'all got it.

So I can't get money through that. Can't get money through that. I'm like, damn, fuck am I supposed to do? What? Fast forward, a nigga went to jail. So. Who went to jail? Me.

Oh, when was that? See, I'm real low-key. Oh, yeah, I didn't even know. Yeah, I only went for, like, a day and a half. But I'm, like, fighting that case right now. But it was because I had to do what I had to do Because I couldn't get money Like the way I knew how to get money

What did you do? You robbed a bank? No, it was some like robbery shit Oh, for real? But it was a bank. It was a bank. You know what I'm saying? You know, smart.

Well, your old ways just crept back in And you just had to get it? Yeah, I'm like, I'm a hustler. You can't tell me I can't get money this way And can't get money that way. I ain't going to do nothing. Like, well, you're crazy. Like, I'm going to get it how I need to get it.

So, you know? And fucking with my. my ex at the time, you know. He was a flocker? Yeah, he was a big flocker. This isn't the one for four years. This is a new ex. We was on some like Bonnie and Clyde shit.

He was from the bay. He was a big flogger. So we was on some like different shit. And yeah, we got caught up. But that was because I'm trying to pursue music. Like I ain't trying to go against what y'all saying. Like I'm going to fuck with y'all. I'm going to trust y'all.

But I still need money. But is the management team trying to like tone down the sexiness and shit on Instagram, do they have a lot of concerns about that? Because it's kind of hard to present yourself as a full-on, like, model and then also do the rabbit thing. I feel like Ruby's an example of somebody who pulls it off good, though. Yeah, nah, she do that shit for show. Um, it's hard. Like, me and my, we was actually talking about that shit the other day. Me and my team, we got to come to an agreement when it comes to, like, this social media presence thing. You know, like, we vibe with it, but it's just like, you know, niggas want me to do this type of shit, but I know,

like this ain't the shit that's going to do this and then they want to complain about like, oh, your male, your male following higher than your female, but it's like, if you want me to do shit like this, that's all that's going to bring me. You won't let me do shit like this, this and this. Like, you know, what can I do? So we work, we like in the process.

Like, we're working on that shit right now. Because that was one weird thing is that when I was watching your stuff at first, when they hit me up, like, oh, do you want to interview her? I was watching your shit and my girl was like, you posted her on Instagram the other day. And I was like, yeah. And she's like, yeah. Yeah, there was a fashion Nova post.

I'm like, oh, I didn't even realize it was the same person. There you go. Yeah. I got like different little looks. I'll be switching it up a lot. A little side hustles. Yeah, you know. So what is like the state of the music right now?

Are you still like in the studio all the time? You're still grinding at it or what? Still in the studio. Damn there every other day. Hustling weed. Project is done. So, you know, I kind of get to lay back off it even though I don't want to. you know project done but now we're just in the process all right all right well we drop it next

when we drop it next then project that's dope do you um do you feel like the the corona thing has like slowed down everything a lot like a motherfucker you would probably have been in south by southwest getting looks there like a motherfucker i'm irritated you know it's crazy at my signing dinner um one of the agencies they said like they got me rolling loud so i was super excited i'm like bear like like what I love like what I'm excited for like aside from the actual music is performing like I want to perform so bad like so this whole corona shit is just like you can't concerts till 2021 I'm just like man all right and just being in the environment too I feel like you just need to be around everybody and meeting everybody and shit and that a lot of people would just fuck with you off of just like that's

why like it's kind of crazy here you're talking about the strip club thing and how that led to you meeting people who have power in the music industry and that led you to where you're at now it's kind of like everybody you just you got a network you know you got to put your face in front of people you got to you got to that's how you're gonna get somewhere up in here yeah my little antisocial ass me having to do that shit that's how you feel though you feel like you're kind of antisocial so when you put yourself in that environment it's as fuck a little bit of a stretch but it's very necessary like a mudfucker like for me i was one of them dancers that was like kind of hard to catch like i was literally like a stage I performed on stage. I didn't really do floor work unless it was just like I was requested.

So I would go ham on stage and then by the time I get off stage it'll be like, this table want you, this table want you, this table want you, this table want you. So then I got a run to make. After that run, I go to the back and I sit and I smoke and I wait to my next stage set. Like I wouldn't really walk around mingle like I hate it talking. Like I hate talking to people. Like I was like, fuck am I here for her. Right. Because I mean like dancing on stage is one thing, but

I could totally understand how a lot of girls who are comfortable dancing on the stage would not really be feeling the whole, like, grinding on a motherfucker in the private room and getting their fucking stinky ass scent all over you and shit. I can count on one hand how many private dances I did. And it was literally because the niggas were cool and they were like, I don't even want you to dance. I just want to talk to you. And they literally just kept handing me hundreds while they talk to me. Wow. That actually sounds pretty great. It is great.

It is great. I got to do it sit there and look cute and they just like, yeah. tell me more yeah that would be great how do you feel like what are the main things you can do to advance your career

at this point since you are not able to do a lot of the in-person type shit that you would normally have been able to do man I just got to go crazy on social media I got to do it on the Instagrams the TikToks I got to get into the YouTube shit I got to keep

you know spreading out my name I got to keep representing that I'm an artist in different ways and I can't just you know like the world shut down, I can't move outside. Like, nah, social media bigger than a lot of just walking outside. So I'm just like, fuck it. No. Plus, that's where I fucking started.

Why not? Definitely. Do you feel like you have to, like, do anything of particular to appeal to the, like, young girl side of your fan base since, like, you said, you are doing very well with the dude side of the fan base? Yeah, it's my goofy shit. That's how I was building my, like, my fan base at first. Like, my fan base probably came off of, like, my goofy shit, my, like,

you know my random dancing shit wasn't stripper shit it was like retarded-ass dancing shit and like you know my random talking videos like that's how I started building up my female shit and I also used to do weaves and shit and you know like I did a lot of everything so my female following back then was a lot more even versus now it's just like you know sexy this yeah boomed at it's kind of weird though because most of the the rap fans realistically at the end of the day like are dudes but then there's also like a shitload of girls that are going to be fans too but it's kind of like a different. I mean my females though because I'm trying to build like you know a generation of stronger females you know what I'm saying I can't do that just with a bunch of niggas I mean yeah you could

teach your daughter but at the same time I want your daughter to hear me right you know I feel it um okay so anything you have planned anything we should be looking forward to in terms of stuff coming up man gee will be dropping a song very very soon Not sure if it's going to be August or September, but y'all be on the lookout for that. It's going to be fire. And then my project should be dropping in November. Nice. But I'm probably going to drop one more single before me and G even drop something.

So, you know, stay tuned for that. I'll keep it lit. That's exciting. No. You got to do it. Do it for Compton. Always. Cheap.

You still out there or no? You know, considering I'm fighting the case right now, I decide to stay away from the hood currently because every time I go back, I always do some fucking shit. Right. So, you know, it's like, well, I moved to the Suburbians area. Are you scared you're going to end up getting locked up due to this whole situation? Not scared. I feel like I might get locked up for, like, calling somebody out on some shit.

Like, you know, it is what it is. Right. I don't have a filter. I don't. I mean, this is rap music where getting locked up. You know. to hurt your career if you only had to stay in there for a little while. But at the same time, you know, like, I don't want to show like my people like, you know,

like, yeah, get locked up in the wave. Like, it's not. But, you know, like, the same time, like, it happens. It happens, you know. But I'm going to stay away from the hood because I know it's more likely to happen if I'm in the hood. Because I know me. Makes sense. So your rap name is your government name?

Nah. No. Okay. You switched that up at some point? I did. Well, day is my government name, but it's half of it. And then Sulan came from Mulan. Oh, okay.

Because that was, like, my little favorite, like, character growing up. The Mulan Rouge shit? Nah, Mulan. Oh. See, I'm old school. I'm thinking about that Christina Aguilera song. What? Who was the original song?

Nah, the Disney shit. The Mulan. The strong independent. You know what I'm saying? Swarting niggas down. I'm saying. I'm thinking Mulan Rouge. I don't even really remember what that is.

I just remember Christina Aguilera was involved with it. I'm dead. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I don't even know about that shit. Generation gap right there. My bad. My hair right there. That makes sense.

All right. Anybody you want to shout out or anything you need to look forward to? Shit. Nah. I mean, shout out my family. Shout out O.G. Shout out my team. I love y'all.

Y'all. You're doing your shit. Shout out to the city. Kind of the west side. You know I'm doing it for your. There it is. Now, you're a real like L.A. chick. I appreciate it.

Thank you. Yeah. Feel the energy. You like, you speak. behalf, I think, of a lot of girls out there in the city. So that's why I want to see you win for sure. Oh, I'm going to win. There it is. I'll wait on it. Let's get it. Wait on it. Day Salon, No Jumber. Four honey. Coolest podcast in the world. Check us on YouTube, SoundCloud, iTunes, like, like, comment, subscribe, nojumber.com if you want support.