No Jumper - Dee Billz on Brownsville, Joining 41, “Beckham”, VonOff1700 & More

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Dee Billz talks about his upbringing, VonOff, Ray Makk, Blockwork, 41, and more! ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. Today, we're in here with arguably the hottest drill ever coming out of New York City right now. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's that D-Vee, nigger, man. My man, D-Bills on the podcast. How you feeling? I'm telling you, Adam. How you feeling?

Excellent. Happy to have you on here, man. You've got the streets going crazy. Facts, fuck. You're getting people in hot water. You're getting out of town. It's mixed up in your beef. It's out of control.

But it's no jumper. So we got to talk about it. All right. So let's get into where. you're coming from tell me a little bit about your younger days and and what life was like as a young man we're from brownie brooklyn the primiest oh yeah you know about that yeah yeah yeah there's dunkin donuts that i went one time with my man black man in brousville yeah and he got to be on mother guys he did this huge rail hop over this purple rail uh because i used to be a bmx dude and that was

like probably the main time in my life that i went to brownsville but yeah and always i hear about it You used to always listen to MOP talk about Brownsville. Facts in front of Ville. Yeah. And always kind of had the reputation as pretty much the grimyest place out of Brooklyn, true or false? Yeah. I never lived nowhere else. Mm.

Mm. Do you feel like it's getting better in terms of it becoming nicer? Have the hipsters moved into Brownsville yet, or is it going to take a while? I don't know. I might take another generation. Mm. Gangster. Yeah, there's just so much land there in Brooklyn to colonize.

It's like browser so small It's gonna be the same shit Like every generation That's how it goes Really? Yeah Yeah Tom just repeated

So there's a different humans Going through the same shit So what was it actually like Growing up there You're surrounded by crazy shit from early on? Um yeah You see everything You see

Crack has Shootouts Gangs You know regular shit And so you were seeing all that From day one Oh yeah Damn

What were your parents like? My mom's. My mom, she was cool for me. It was really my pop store. That was really on my eyes still, because my pops, he'd be in the streets. Well, he was in the streets for me, so he didn't want me to take that route.

So he tried to, like, try his best to keep me out the streets. How did you do that? He had even extracurricular activities and shit. Sports bowl, for me. Just on it for me. Just trying to get you into as much as you could. Was it just, Not happening?

Were you just too... I was playing ball for me. Okay. Sports was working. But then, you know, it's the same story, bro. Play ball. Something happened. Did you not make the team one year?

Nah, I got kicked off the team because I stopped going to school. Oh, for real? Okay. Gangsta. So it's crazy because, like, the coach, he knew what I was from me. I was all right.

But he purposely gave the last spot. I was fighting for the last spot. Purposely gave the last spot to something that he knew. He wasn't as good as me, but he did it as like a life lesson, you know? Really? After I was like, you know what? Ficked his basketball. Did you just not really have, like, the discipline to just show up

and do these long-ass practices and everything? Yeah, like, I was just, I started skipping school, for me. Got kicked out of my first high school, and I transferred to a, my school. I transferred to a different school for, like, a year than I dropped out. just wasn't for you? What were you interested at that time? Were you thinking about the music or were you just in the streets?

I was worried about rapping. I was trying to be outside. School was in the way. I start skipping school to be outside. I go outside in the uniform, lead a crib in the uniform, change out those clothes, and then just be outside.

Right. And to the people who aren't from New York, they're probably wondering, what the fuck you're talking about with being outside. You mean just posting up on the block? Go to the park. Yeah. Run around with you.

Men's get hired, regular shit. Most people can't comprehend that because New York City is like, it's like one big club. Or it's just everybody just wants to be there to just hang out. It's just going on all the time. It's like very easy to just be a dude who's just trying to be around, just see what the is going on every day. For all the kids, though, stay at school. The shit I'm talking about right now, you don't got to do that.

Stay in school. Right. Were you seeing anybody that you knew already? having success with the music or what was it that had you going towards that? Like what I wanted to rap? Yeah. Um, like the older bros from my block, they always rapping. So like, I grew up watching actual videos outside.

All this shit I do with my block, I seen the older n-do while I was a baby. So it's like, it's just attached to me. Like I had a love for sports and music. Anybody in particular in terms of the rappers that you're watching from your neighborhood? Um, it's a lot of rap. from my neighborhood. From my block, personally, you got Moni G's, Free Him, got car money bags, you got Schino,

you got Tena G's, you got Rico, you're mad, man. A lot of names I heard over the years right there, but... I could show you an old video from like seven years ago and I'm in the background. How old are you? How old are you right now? 19. 19.

So you're like a 12-year-old in the video? Yeah, I was like 12. Damn, that's crazy. Were they trying to keep you away from shit? Or were they more like, he's 12, he's 13, 14, whatever, but he's still involved with shit. They try to keep him away from it. But it's like, once you get to a certain age, it's like,

dude, he out here. You're growing up is what it is. Right. So were your parents, like, fighting back against us, though? Were they, like, angry, trying to discipline you, trying to ground you and shit like that, or are they kind of powerless? Like, my parents, like,

My parents was outside too, so as long as I'm in their sight, feel me, they didn't really have a problem. But once I start going to other blocks, other than the hoods, feel me, that's when they feel me, feel me, still cooling and shit. But if I'm on the block, feel me, just struggle up. So, like, growing up in Brownsville, are you good in, like, all of Brownsville? And then you just have issues with other people, or is even Brownsville's, like, divided? Brownsville divided, unfortunately.

It's crazy because back in the day, Brownsville. It's all cool. Like that's the hood. The whole city is the hood, right? Now you're beef up the block. Right. Cross the street. Can't go to the chicken spot around the corner.

The famous chicken spot. Because shit will happen. What's your famous chicken spot? It's right around the corner. Was it like a Kennedy fried or? Crown fried chicken. Crown fry is another popular one. See, they don't even have that in L.A.

It's not like... The crown fry shit? They don't have like famous, janky-ass fried chicken spots like they were all over New York. You know where I've been eating out, bro? Where? Fat burger, bro.

Fat burger pretty good. The niggas told me that's trash but like while I go to In-N-N-O-Butter. In-N-Out is pretty good. I feel like now they got all the smash burger spots like heavy-handed is a popping one.

There's a lot of like the burger technology is kind of going crazy. I'm jacking the pizza. The pizza out here? Yeah, that's your fire. You're not supposed to say that. New York's supposed to be legendary for having a good pizza.

New York will always be Number one. Okay. But when I go to a lot of other places, the piece would be dirt. L.A. that got some good pizza. That's good to hear. Because I don't feel like there's like a strong street food culture.

You know, in Manhattan, it's all about like, oh, I can go get a piece of pizza for a dollar. Ain't nobody talking about that out here. Even like New York, you get a piece of piece of you walk down the street eating it. Nobody does that here. It's a car city, you know? Okay. But so during all that time period, though and everything, like, is it? Is there constant crazy shit happening all around you,

or is it more of a peaceful, fun vibe? Oh, like, I would say, like, it was peaceful until Ligigas got their self into trouble. Like, your decisions will cause a reaction. Right. And the reaction will cause another reaction. And then it gets to a point where you're just too deep up. Right. It's like, like, even what you're describing with, like,

oh, now you're in Brownsville and you got problems with, like I already know how that happened. I don't even know what situation you're talking about. Something happens the same way. Exactly. It's not just a little fist fight that you can get over. It starts as that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the escalate, escalate, escalate, and then it's too deep in. Right, for sure. So when did you actually start really rapping? Were you just doing it outside in the park for a long time? Yeah, I'll start rapping. Like I said, I used to grow watching my older bro's rapping shit, so. Like when I was like 10, I started to do. When I was like 10, I started writing rap and shit.

Then I got, I recorded my first song when I was in like eighth grade, I made it on band live with my man. That was my first song. Then I took it to the studio and like freshman year, that's when I got to the studio the first time. But before that, it was straight band live. I was a SoundCloud rapper, for me? What was you trying to sound like at that time?

I was trying to, New York niggas for me. I was drill rapping. Definitely. So when do you start meeting people who, like, I don't know, how did your career progress from there? Did you start, like, at what point did you meet the 401 dudes? So this is how this happened. For me, Tata, he from the same hood as me.

Okay. From, like, around the corner, literally. My blog, walk around the corner, his hood over there. Feel me? Our families always knew each other and shit. So we grew up together and shit, feel me. He's the one 401 member that I haven't met because he was locked up or slept in

or some shit when I interviewed them a year ago or something. I got to tap him. I'm saying. Yeah, so one day, I'm walking through the hub with my son Jay Jolato. We walking through the hood, I see Tata. Tata was the first nigga I seen rapping, like our age when I heard of him, he was been rapping.

His name wasn't even Tata. You know what I'm not even going to. Tell him out. But yeah, so I seen, bro, for me. He's like, yo, yo, yo, pull up, gang. Pull up. He's like, yo, we got to go to the stool, bro, for me. We got to tap in.

I'm like, say that. This one I just started rapping. He was already rapping. And then I went to school with K.R. K. K.R. already knew Jen. I didn't go to school with Jem, but I went to school with K.O., for me. And I was rapping with bro, so we all just link up in the stool one day.

feel me the vibe was there and we just start going to the stool every other day every other day pulling our ones and tools and getting the stool

definitely did you did you have a feeling that you were gonna pop off as a rapper because I feel like you have the the crazy voice

which is like a big part of being a popping rapper I ain't gonna uh I can't even say I know because I still ain't even pop off yet I'm just seeing that like shit can happen

like you know um you know But I knew shit was going like, I knew shit was going somewhere after Beckham. And I seen like all the cosigns I was getting and shit. And everybody started bringing me out to perform and shit. That's when I knew. But you have songs from like a couple years ago that have millions of views too.

Yeah, but it's like you can have millions of views and then go somewhere else. Nobody gonna know who the fuck you are. Right. They're not gonna have no clue for me. So it's like, that shit don't really mean nothing to me. The internet's a crazy place. You could have like a song with a couple million views. It's the hottest song in Brooklyn.

But then meanwhile in L.A., it's going to take a year to figure it out. For me, shit like that. Interesting. So since 401 kind of, they popped off before you fully popped off. What was your perspective on that as that was happening? And was it ever a consideration that you might just be like an official member of the group when they signed and shit? Uh, it would be, I was over. I was always arrived since the beginning.

The thing that happened was like, for me, I was going through a lot of, like, personal shit at the time. So it was getting away in my music. Like, a lot of people that, if you really know me, you know I stopped rapping for, like, damn there, like six months. I was just freestinely, just wanting to be outside, for me. So that's really what prevented me from being in the first situation. But then once I locked in, you see, I'm locked in, I'm here now, for me?

Right. So what? You were dealing with legal shit or do you have relationships stuff? No, like, there's just a lot of shit going on. Like, family shit, street shit. For me? My life changed. My daughter changed. I ain't going on.

Right. And it just stopped my rap shit. Yeah, because I see Kyle and all then, like, they've done, you know, you guys have done infinite songs together, like a million songs. So that's one thing I realized I was looking at. I'm like, oh, this isn't just some artists that got a feature from them. Like they clearly have like an extremely strong relationship. Oh, yeah.

The real nose shock for me. It's way more full. Like, it's full of shit is bigger than what a lot of people think it is. Like not just me. We got way more artists about to come out. It's about to be crazy. Because like I remember when I first interviewed Jan and Kyle like a year and a half ago, some shit like that.

And, you know, we interview a lot of rappers who have a movement, but then it kind of fizzles out at some point. And I remember maybe a year ago, watching a clip of Kyle performing out of college in Albany and the crowd was losing their mind so hard and I'm seeing all these like kind of normal looking kids and girls and shit just losing their shit and I'm like oh okay this is like probably some of the craziest reaction I've seen to any drill shit coming out of New York were you observing that and did that kind of motivate you to be like oh like I gotta focus I was I was there for everything I observed everything

You know, like, that's the thing with a lot of people. Like, some people were like, they shit up, like, getting mad. Like, damn, why I'm not where my other friends is at, feel me? You just gotta wait your turn, bro. And you gotta learn for everything that's going on. Like, I'll be behind the scenes, watching everything. I'll be like, damn. Niggas f*** this way.

Let me take this way. You feel me? It's all of, you just gotta, it's like judge, bro. Just gotta watch this shit. You gonna adapt, learn. Because you, like, you're going to be who you're hanging around, like, you know? For me? So, yeah, bro.

Did it ever trip you out that Jen was such a big part of it? Because I feel like she's probably the most successful drill rapper, period, out of any city in America, which is kind of crazy. Oh, my, I was there when Jen made her first song. Really? First song, I was at her first video shoot. I watched the whole shit happen. I didn't know different.

I didn't know she was different. Definitely. I always think about the fact that I asked her how she would feel if a dude hit on her, like a fellow rapper. And she basically said if a dude hits on me, he's a f***. I was just like, holy shit. I don't know why I was trying to like troll with that. That's not cool, bro.

Right. You can't troll her, I feel like. She's too solid. She's not going to fall for it. She's too nonchal. She don't go for her. She doesn't know. No, definitely.

So, okay. So, okay. So does that motivate you to actually start, like, recording a lot more, or what was that time period like? Oh, yeah. It was like a, like, I rebuilt myself. Then once I felt like myself again, it was going on. I was out here, stool every day, every other day, working, working, working.

I mean, I got mad songs, bro. I got, like, over 200 songs, bro. Did Beckham seem like a big deal when you recorded it, or did it take a while for that to click? I don't know. I don't know. Gangster. We made that shit just on a regular tip, like, just robbing in the stool with the

homies, you know. Freestyle, I ain't even write that shit. I just went in the stool just saying shit. Right. Next thing you know, niggas dropped this shit, shit go crazy out of nowhere. From the beginning, it just took off. Nah, it didn't even go, like, in the beginning it was doing like normal, like regular shit we would do, feel me, regular numbers.

And out of nowhere, I look on TikTok. I'm seeing DDG doing videos. Mr. Beas. Amp. Odell Becko, man, his brother. Mad niggas, bro. Mad niggas doing the sound on TikTok. After that, shit just skyrocketed.

Mr. Beast. I haven't seen that one. But I would think that even Mr. Beech would be clued in enough to be like, yo, this is a crazy song. He was like this. Mr. Bees was like this. With a skiing on, man. Word of a bro.

Right. Gangsta. That's crazy. Because I felt like after the naughty bop that a lot of people probably kind of figured out, like, oh, some of this drill music is a little offensive. Maybe we shouldn't be dancing to this shit. No, yeah.

That's a fact, but at the end of the day, the day got to end, bro. Right. Sometimes you got to think about shit, how you don't want to think about shit. Right. It's rap. Is there any part of you that feels almost kind of bad

for making a song go that viral and really making somebody famous that really wasn't famous before. The reason why I don't feel bad is because my name is in songs too. That went viral. People were dancing to them songs too. God forbid it's not happening to me. Somebody make a song that go viral and niggas is going through that dance too. There's no remorse for nobody. That's how I see it, bro. Did you know Ray Mack or is this just a random person associated with people you don't get along with?

At the end of the day, the day got to end, Adam. At the end of the day, the day got to end, bro. Right. Because we asked Vaughn of 1700 that same question, and he was just like, no, I don't know him. They dis-me? What's wrong? I don't know.

Yeah. For me? It's just... Niggas was addressing my or something. Like, like, giggas addressing him for doing a TikTok. It's just a TikTok, bro. Right. You know what I'm saying?

He don't got nothing to do with it. Why are you trying to go viral? So, niggas try to go viral with bro, so he went viral with niggas back. Right. He's definitely not the type of dude who's gonna be like, nah, it's cool, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.

And then how you can't be a niggas, bro? How are you gonna try to be in niggers, bro? You just, you did it to yourself, bro. You know damn well, you can't be in niggas, bro. From a place as big as New York that everybody has to go. Be real, Adam. Who's gonna be in what?

You know how much times niggas are said? Oh, diggers is being from somewhere and they still went? Mm. Did it to yourself, bro. Like, more realistic would be like, you can't come to this specific neighborhood. Thanks a, sir. I understand not.

New York as a whole is like, you think you're the mayor? Because LA dudes do that all the time too. You can't come to L.A. It's like, what the fuck? I'm going to Hollywood. You are not going to see me walking to the store. Not the mayor, Mike. Not the mayor.

Right. Because acting like they got the key to the city or something. Like, I don't understand. So as soon as that song blows up, do you start getting hit up? your obst to basically like let you know how upset they are about making this shit a trend? I was bigger about ups upset. This is just the one-sword that the whole world is a singer like this shit. Like, this should have been happening.

Did you invent the dance or somebody on TikTok come up with the dance? Somebody on TikTok put the video or the like, or the sound. Whoever did that though? Shout out to you. Where am I like I really got to find out who, who made that video. Because after that, it got to. dance now. I just made it with it's just a song, feel me? Right. Now I just

got a dance or types of crazy shit. But the dance doesn't, to my eyes, it doesn't seem disrespectful, right? It's the jogging motion. I feel like a little disrespectful right head. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because the naughty bob, it takes you two seconds to realize, like, ah, okay,

that's, I guess, got it. But with that shit, it took me a minute. Because the jogging part, that don't look too crazy, but all right. Interesting. So, okay. But before that, one of your key collaborators, we did an interview with block work. Were you guys best friends at one point?

Or was that just some music shit? That's it, bro. I ain't know a bro until my manager introduced me to bro. The soul was been made. It was been made. I was playing, playing on dropping it. Just me. My manager woke in one day.

We played a song. We all start going crazy in there. We're like, nah, this shit a hit. He's like, yo, I got an artist from out in Harlem. If we get on this shit, you're going to do some good work. I'm open to work, feel me? I don't know the nigger yet, for me. Open to work.

Did a song, it just happened to go viral. Niggas want to act like, I was like, yo, yo, yo, yo, can you please do this song with me? No, it's not how shit happened, mine. Management. asked for collaboration, and I was open to collab. We did a song. For me?

Right. Then shit turned out how it turned out. So it is what it is. I saw a clip. I don't know if it was you or somebody else were saying that block work is salty because his spot, like, you know, somebody like Kyle basically has the spot. Somebody like you basically has a spot that he used to have. I never really like saw him as being like that big.

He had a little his phone going around. He had a wave going for sure. Yeah. Feel me? But the problem with niggas is niggas began to a head of his own. Niggas still getting too big-headed. Then that's when you see your shit

fade away. The drill shit you could fade away in a month. I understand. One bad clip comes out of you. It's over. But so when did you and Borg actually fall out or were you never that tight in the first place? We was never that close to begin with, for me.

He was just, I didn't go out. Like, he was trying to be friends with me. He was pulling up all the way to Brownsville He's come chill on my block That's a hike That's a super hike Like I'm talking multiple days back to back

Right I'm near he's pulling up For me And Shit happened It's like I don't care for you You're from my block You're from all the way over there

Was it like pressures Associated with the song Doing so well What song? The song that you guys did together Like that song starts blowing up. Did you guys kind of fall out over some shit

that came up as a result of that? He fell out because he's from them sides. You know what I'm saying? He's from over there with them Harlem niggas. Right. The Harlem niggers

dissed us. Something happens to one of them. We dissed back. They wasn't even jacking bro to begin with. But we disses his hood back. All of a sudden, he's back with them, niggas. Even though they're not jacking him, he's back with them, niggas. All of a sudden that he's riding for them, his f***ing niggas.

At that point, nigger, go back over there, nigger. The f***gones don't need you over here, clearly. You see, shit ain't stopped after niggas stop on him. My shit only went up. Right. Go back over there, ma. You see where he out? You think he picked the wrong side?

He picked the right side. That's where he's from. Right. He wasn't going to, he wasn't for one. Right. He was just always wanting to be around, you know, because she was going on. He wanted to be around.

I mean? It's such a common thing, though, because I think about like Gizi and Gucci. They did so icy together. Song blows up, all of a sudden, boom, they fall out because Gizi wants to go perform it without Gucci. All of a sudden, he's mad. They play it as a show.

They cut out one of the people's verses, et cetera. Like, there's a lot of pressure that comes with having a song. cracks off together. There's a lot of niggas be emotional, doing weird emotional shit. I mean, sure happens. Definitely. Um, okay. So, around that time period, though, like, was there a bunch of other hits that I'm sh-d-out on, or was there other moments where you were like, oh, shit, this is starting to take off before the Beckham thing? Um, that's the thing. Like, a lot of people try to, like,

say like niggas only got hits from dissing but i did thutti thutti at a mill with some change i did dm with the bros that's at a mill and some change no disson right yeah break down what a thutti is a thutti yeah it's a um a pretty wobby woman right facts that's what a totie is so it's nothing negative if she's a bum bitch she ain't a thutti No, yeah, she's definitely not a thutti. It's a girl you actually respect and are into. Okay. Got it.

How long you know about that slang term or where did that come from? Um, that really came from my son's stall beat. My son just set it in a stool one day. He said, yo, where the Thutti's at? Everybody started laughing. Like, what you just said? Thutti? I ain't gonna'allon.

I'm fake. I'm jacking thutti. We're about to start saying that and shit. Next thing you know, everybody so saying that shit that shit got a whole definition on TikTok go look up doofy definition

it's going to have a definition right at the top before any video it's crazy because when I lived in Brooklyn back in the day you lived in Brooklyn? Yeah Bushwick for seven years yeah until 2010 and there was this Puerto Rican kid

that we used to ride BMX with this young ass kid and he'd be calling girls smoothies and sometimes in my head still I'll like look at a bad bitch and be like, damn, that's one good looking smoothie right there. But then I'll remember that I can't, nobody knows what that means. Snooty not that bad. That sounds cool, right?

I'm going to take that to the bros today and see how they feel. Smoothie. But this kid, he was like 16 riding BMX bikes and I nicknamed him baby food. Because he-named him baby food. He's just like a little-ass kid and like we were joking around telling him that he's food or whatever. And somehow I named him baby food. I'm pretty sure he's still running with that nickname too. And he's like, grown-ass man.

I don't know. Bigger said baby food. There was another kid around that time I named him Birdman, too. Because I told him he had little bird-looking-ass lips or some shit. I called him Birdman. I see him like 10 years later. I realize he's still going by Birdman. Oh, man, you think I look like a little Tucker, bro?

Well, now you put it like that. Yeah, I guess I could see the comparison. Why you feel like that, bro? You know, you got real skinny with the glasses. You got sort of similar hair. You're like taller. I go a lot. We do a track that I go viral, right?

You and him? Yeah. Oh, that would be good, yeah. I don't know if he's tapped in with the drill wave necessarily. Everybody, yo, let me take some of it. Everybody act like they're not in tune, but these niggas is really in tune, I swear to God, bro. Like, these niggas really in tune. I don't been around celebrities, it's an honor for me to see them.

And they know exactly who I am. Really? They all know, but for me, it's just sometimes they're not going to like make it not. known. Right. But they know the music. Trust me. They know the music. Yeah, it's true. Because even if you are not that into the music, a lot of people are still paying attention because it's like true crime type shit. They're trying to figure out what's going on the streets. It's all entertainment. So what's in your spliff mix right here? Is just straight weed? Are you going to put graba in there? What do you do? Oh, hi-haired grubber. Really? Everybody in the times know what this is.

Okay. Is it a special brand? Is it flas? Is it flas? Lavored or some shit. No, it's just hot. Like, it got that for me. That kick. How much you put in? Man, I was spung away

my whole life. I haven't smoked weed in like two weeks right now. It feels kind of weird. The leaf? Wait, what? Roll the leaf? No, I was smoking splifts for like the last.

I was kind of was going back and forth when me backwards and splits, but I never became a grobba guy. You gotta put this much problem. Okay. I'm trying to peep the ratio. Okay, solid. I mean?

They're like, 20%, 15%, that's how you do it. It's a time-spliff right here. Yeah. You don't do the shit where you, like, rolling it up in a leaf and then you put the paper around the leaf.

I don't do that shit. It's too much. Yo, why some girl try to say New York niggas smoke they blunt's too skinny. I would blunts too skinny. That's interesting. I don't get it, though.

Like, why you feel like you... New York do is smoke way more splits. And definitely groba. Like, I don't know anyone in L.A. It smokes Grabo. Yeah. I found Grob out here. But...

I mean, now that they got legal weed, I mean... I mean, there's a lot of places you go, like... You go to London. They're... Wheat smoking's kind of pathetic, to be totally honest. They rolled that shit tiny. I went to Canada, mine. I went to Canada, the weed was terrible, my.

Really? Terrible, bro. Damn. That's interesting. No offense to Canada, though. I love Canada, you heard? I love Canada. Because they have a reputation for having pretty good weed.

But also, that's in like Vancouver and shit. I don't know about, like, the east side of Canada necessarily. They went crazy to buck them out there, too. Yeah, that's one thing I realize is that, like, every city's got a remix. Shout out, A. Boogie. What a bro. He brought us out in Canada. Right.

There's a London remix. There's a Op remix. There's a London remix, Shirek remix, Full One Remix. People you don't FIth With remix. Oh, yeah. The Open Verse Remix. makes me viral on TikTok. It's mad remixes.

I see our remixes, too. Keep doing them shit. I see them shit. Right. Does that piss you off at all? If you walked in a spot and you heard somebody play in another version of it?

I don't know. You don't give... I don't know. Because at the end of the day, it's my song. I'm just growing my song. That's all of... That's all the artists out there.

It's all about growing your song, bro. You got to mark it's on every possible way you come. For sure. So, everybody, was on the video version were they in the studio when you did it

and everybody just hopped on it or did other people like end up getting verses on it after the fact? No, everybody that's on the show that day for me. It was like a

it was a regular day for me. The Swirvold Bros. That's on the song too. Uh-huh. They from the Ville too. Like they from like the other side of the Vib.

I'm from the Sade Block area to Vibu. They're from the project side. You know what I'm saying? But those are the homies for me. So we linked up on day for me on some collaboration. So like we still don't go together, you know. Made the song, we're viral.

I thought that you were saying something about David Beckham. And then I watched you talk about in another interview, and I realize you were talking about Odell Beckham. It's like a soccer mega star. No, I don't watch soccer. I don't know. I don't know what I was thinking. It's like that would be kind of weird

if he was paying attention to soccer. Most Americans aren't really that concerned with it. No, I'm not American. I'm Guyanese, bro. Right. But you were born here, right? Yeah, but I don't jack that shit. I grew up in a Guyanese household.

Right. I'm heavy on my Guyanese shit. Right, for sure. Yeah, I used to know a bunch of Guyanese BMX right back in the day. Thanks, sir. For sure. Wait, so what do your parents feel about you popping off as a rapper? Are they proud of you or what?

They got to be a little concerned. How I put it, like, my popsy's a full supporter. Like, he love what I'm doing. Like, he may not like what I rap about sometimes, how I'm, for me, the stuff I do sometimes. But he's just glad I'm young doing something for myself. I'm not in Brownsville where I used to be, for me, and I'm doing something in my life.

It may not be what he, for me, for me, for me, but at least I'm doing something and not nothing laying on his couch all day. Right. For me? moved out of my pop script when I was 18 years old. What do you think he wanted to do, get a job, regular life? How I put it?

The main option was bull, bro. Then ball stopped working, so it was looking like I was going to have the regular lifestyle. As long as I wasn't, he just ain't with me in the streets doing what he'd do, or dead for me. Right. But it's like at a point of time, it looked like, damn. just have to try to graduate and get a job.

Because then when I, because when I dropped out of school, my pops was not jacking him. He's like, you know, I'm about to be in my house all day, going outside, doing nothing, doing all this dumb shit, and I'm outside working, for me? Yeah.

You got to do something, too, because you were a man at the end of the day. For me? So he said, you got a year to do something with his rap shit. Well, you got to, for me, figure it out on your own. Right. That's when I put the foot on the gas,

start working. Damn. Shut on my pubs. That's my heart right there. That's good, though. He probably just wants to make sure that you're able to maneuver and not, you know,

it's like to be a drill rapper popping off and then still living in your city or anywhere near your city, you got to know how to maneuver. For me, my grandmother and them, they're like, they really from Guyana, like, they wasn't born here.

They came out here for me, so the way they look at it, life is different from how we look at life. You got what I'm saying? They want us to go to church every Sunday, school, for me, in the house, working, cooking, cleaning. That's what they want, for me. But that's not what I was on, for me, because I still got my American side, my pop,

for me. For me, and I'm his son at the end of the day. So they ain't really like me being outside. They used to try to, like, complain in my parents and shit. Try to put a battery in their back to, like, be more strict on me. But it's just not what I was on. And then eventually, they ain't like what I was rapping for me, because they got in age.

That's like, they don't look at it the same. Once they seen it start, like, changing my life for real, it was happy for me. Like, once they see I'm going through shows, I'm in the studio for me, doing good. They were jacking it. Yeah, no, definitely. Okay, so, oh, I wanted to ask you this. What old school or Brooklyn rappers

a little bit older do you respect or did you grow up listening to? I grew up on a lot of, like, I was always intellect. Like, I ain't go a lot like drill music been a thing. Like, I don't know why people try to make it a genre now. The shit we're rapping about, 50 cents was rapping about. All these niggas was rapping about it, but I don't know why they just put the drill. name or us. We always rapping about the same shit. So like...

50 Cent. How to Rob in like 2000 was basically like the first time somebody came out in New York and basically like got famous by dissing a bunch of people even though he was kind of joking around about it. But then I also look at it was popping that shit. Oh yeah. They said mad niggas. And he had crazy street shit going on too. Gangster. You know, that's like, that's a drill thing. And but then you kind of fast forward to like Bobby Schmurter and shit. I always kind of look at that as almost like, that's when we really got to look at like, oh, this is a bunch of dudes from Brooklyn going crazy on their block and we're getting to just see it. Bobby and up, they're from like five minutes away.

Yeah, okay. I grew up on Bobby, Rowdy. It's a lot of like underground drill, like, like New York artists I was listening to. I didn't go a lot like, but I used to listen to a lot of Bobby and Rowdy, but I grew up. I was in love with like the Chicago drill. Like I used to go to school, little, little ass boy walking to school, Chief Keefe in the headphones for me. I don't like bumping that shit back to back to back. Like, that was my shit.

I ain't gonna lie. Chief Keatsy, Herbal, Montana, 300. It's mad at them, bro. Little Rees. Dirk. It's mad at them, bro. I was in love with that shit. That shit spoke to a generation of young people.

I was in love with that. That shit influenced me to rap. Right. That shit had a very large, I said very large, a very stronger, like, influence on my rap. Right. Yeah, yeah. Somebody said that, like, recently, like,

who had a bigger impact on hip hop, Chief Keefe for 50 Cent? That's, like, the hardest question I ever had to answer. Because I've seen both, seeing how gigantic they were, it's hard for me to pick one. I said 50 Cent at first, but the more I think about it,

the more I feel like it might be Chief Keefe. You know, I'm a young dog, I'm going to say Chief Keefe, for me? Because, like, I grew up older 50s. I was really, like, Chief Keefe heavy. G. Herbal, my favorite rapper. I really fuck with G. Herbal, word about that, favorite rapper. No, yeah, he's hard.

He'd been hard for a long-ass time. But, okay. At that time, when you're listening to all the Chicago music, are you just listening to these dudes, or you listen to their ops as well? I'm listening to all that shit. I'm listening to Chief Keep, that I might bump some little Jojo.

You know, he had that hit. I was infatuated with that shit, boy. I love that shit. I used to watch the fucking videos that I'd break it down, how some of these d'nigas got killed. I know you see, I know you know what I'm talking about. Oh, yeah, I still watch that shit to this day, all the time. Feel me?

My girl's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you need to know this much about these dudes? I know shit about that, and I'm not even from this. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that shit is a huge industry. Now you've got people like 1090 Jake and Traplor Ross who are basically like as famous as the rappers for breaking that shit down. What a bro.

This liggins that's not even showing a thing. I talk about this shit goes viral. Shit crazy. Definitely. Um, okay, do you, uh, do you think that drill is like still a growing industry in New York? Or you feel like it's kind of getting smaller or going away as time goes by? I feel like it's going away because a lot of the drill rappers don't, for me, they don't do shit the right way. For me, they feel like, yeah, I gotta go.

rap and then I'm gonna catch a murder and then rap about it some more and then I'm gonna blow up and get some money that don't last long, bro. Right. It's either you're gonna rap or you're gonna be in the streets. You can't do both. Because you're gonna, for me, you're going full.

You could have niggas that's, you feel me? You could have other niggas, bro. You specifically, you don't have to, for me, be the one coming in the crimes. You know what I'm saying? Like, right. You gotta go about the shit the right way, bro. But it's like reality is so prized in the drill shit

that dudes want to like keep doing. Like Bloodhound Little Jeff had so much emotion in the music. Gangsta, he was about to go crazy. Blowing up, he's already signed. Gangsta, about to go crazy. And he's still sliding, doing crazy-ass missions and shit. You gotta act like the ticket. You gotta act like the ticket.

You gotta act like it. Like, can't be crashing out. That's the problem with the drills scene. The nice, the nice niggas be crashing out. Right. Gangsta. Like if you're, if you're the star rapper, It's already bad enough if you're basically like funding other people doing shit.

Like you could definitely get O'RICO off that. And we've seen that in the past and there's certain rappers. But now you're going to make it worse for yourself by doing it yourself. And then fucking up the whole brand. Because a lot of these groups, there's only one rapper, two rappers. Yeah. So now the one rapper, full, go to jail, die. You never hear about that neighborhood again.

It's over. Yeah. It's a legendary tip. Yeah. Good I'm saying, bro. For me? And then you'll hear people talk about that neighborhood like, yeah, they used to be crazy. Yeah, they used to go crazy.

And then the ones that say that, be the ones that be in the comments, telling the liggas, all the instigating shit, you're not going to win, bro. Just do your things, just rap, bro. Right. You got to act like a boss for me. How you feel about, like, the YouTubers who are trying to, you know, make videos by going to the neighbor? and really filming a bunch of crazy shit. Be safe, bro.

Right. Be safe because you may not realize it, but you were influencing the shit too. And a lot of niggas is watching that shit. I watch that, I know exactly who you talk about. If you talk about somebody specifically, I know who you talk about. Right.

And I know what videos you talk about. Well, the WIBC dual thing was the crazy shit. Because it's like the video comes out, he gets killed the next day. Gangsta, that shit was nasty, bro. Gangston. I dead f*** with his music too. Yeah.

Word of my dad. I chopped it up with bro before and all that. Yeah, that was some crazy shit. And especially because it just feels like, okay, you're giving so much information to the cops and you're giving information to your enemies. You're basically just giving them the blueprint. Like, this is where we hang out.

This is what our cars look like. This is what we do. This is, you know, I can't imagine, like, something that would put you more at risk than. Niggas don't be realizing how far they could take this shit. Like, it's just like, I don't know, bro. You need guidance, bro. That's why I love my pop's,

for a lot of older niggas around me because, like, a lot of these niggas don't got no type of guidance. Like, I got niggas, like older niggas that done dead, 10 times more shit, they done through way more shit, than they're teaching me

how to go about this shit, you know? You see how them niggas did when they went that row. Gotta go that road, baby, bro. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, I did an interview with billionaire black yesterday,

and we were talking about that type of shit. And like, it's weird because he's obviously older. He's moved to Arizona, et cetera. So it's like, but when he's talking about like what advice he would give to a young kid in Chicago, the advice isn't like, leave the guns alone. The advice is like, you got to protect yourself. So you got to move the correct way. And it's like you have to really know what's going on to be able to give that advice.

Right. You know, my dad couldn't have given me that advice if I had been getting into that shit. You know, he was a square. It's like, I love him, but, you know, he would have never been able to tell me something like that. Instant. You know? I'm sure your dad gives you a bit more of, like, accurate. You know, phone my pops every day for like 30 minutes.

Right. Every day. I call my pops right now. You're going to give me a whole paragraph. He's going to be like, yeah, there's some game. A lot of niggas can't get, little nigger. But I appreciate that shit. I really do appreciate that shit.

No, definitely. So did you have a relationship with Von Off 1700 before he got caught up in all this shit doing the dancing or anything? Had you guys already been in communication? Like, we was bound to, for me, running to each other because we had, like, a show that we both going to perform at. But, like, I was for, bro music for me. I was Ben Jacking, bro. And then he had glasses, too. So I was really jacking my son, game since.

So now I feel like I'm about the only nigga in the scene with Glass. But, um, yeah, I was with bro music. And I seen he was fucking with our shit for me. Less than you know, like even if that situation that happened, we was going to tap in, bro. Right. That's fine. That's gang.

So then you guys brought him out to film that video. What was that day like? That shit was active. I heard him all that. Gangsta, he was outside, though. Like, fans running up. Just chilling in a time. Right.

He said, I'm in New York and they told me I can't. Right. Gangston. He said, that boy, a rat called 1090 Jake. I always appreciate anybody who puts Jake in there. But you know, that's a good topic, too. 109 and Jake said he kind of fallen back on doing videos, exposing people for snitching because he says nobody gives a fuck anymore.

He said it's so common that it's just pointless. It's the side truth, bro. And he's made so many fucking enemies from it that I feel like he's kind of sick of like... He just trying to get with him because he exposed to the riots? I don't know if they've actually really tried anything

because y'all, I'm gonna be real. Every time I've been around 1090 J, he is not playing around. He moves like a mob boss. Like, you're not catching him lacking. As you should. Yeah. He's the real deal. Thanks, dude.

I never actually really even met a white dude that's on timing like him. Yeah, to be totally real with you. He's a rare breed. They don't make him like him every day. But do you agree with that? Like snitching is so common at this point that it's almost like the people are kind of numb to it.

It used to be like you have a snitching allegation. You're out of here. Now it's like people just kind of roll with it. I feel like the reason I was hyper there is because it's a way, like the side truth about the music game is like it's a way bigger fan base than rail niggas and street niggas. True. For me?

A nigger could go rat. A nigga could be making gangster music, go rat, and then just switch up his whole agenda, his whole person, like personality and start making music for females or music for emo kids. So I feel me. So I feel like that's why that's happening. But I do feel like the little white kids are kind of influenced by what the street thinks, too, because it's not that hard for them to figure out. They're the ones watching the YouTube videos and shit like that. So it's like if somebody's name is no good, the nerd kids can figure it out as well. And they're not, you know, they're not necessarily sticking around just because they like the music.

The internet. The internet is just undefeated. It's too much people on the internet. You can't stop that shit. No, definitely. Do you think sexy drills the next big wave? I feel like, yeah, that's the wave. Like, that's really the wave.

Gainesda. I fuck with this. I'm about to tap into that wave. Really? I got some shit with bass swag. About a drop salt. Because, I mean, I feel like even, you know, like the Ice Spice thing, it's like she kind of showed everybody like, oh, you can kind of have some drill-type beats and have a similar flow. But you don't have to be talking about all this crazy shit.

Yeah. You see, she was doing the glogglow booms and shit. Right. She'll be drill rapper. It's like a, I don't know how to explain it. That's how you rap nowadays in New York. Do you think she could have leaned into it more, though? You think she should have done a song with Jen and Kyle and shit?

Or is she smart to separate herself from all that? Why wouldn't you? Probably because she don't want to be in the mix. It's for the culture, though. What mix? I agree, but, you know, you go do a song with people that people aren't fond of, all of a sudden the city's a little divided about you, right? She's a female at the end of the day.

Yeah. I bet you if she would have did the track with the bros, the ops would have still wanted to do a track with Ice Space. You Ice Space. And there's people talking about her falling off. I'm not saying that's 100% true, but, you know, I feel like it's tough when you go full pop star as opposed to like staying connected to the streets.

Because if you stay connected to the real street rap shit, then that band base is going to continue to glorify you, even if the mainstream hits sort of run out. Bro, they say that about everybody, bro. Yeah. They don't, they'll be in a comment saying, we fell off. They say that about everybody. If you don't drop a song for two weeks, you fell off.

Yeah. Cagster, bro. Yeah. Constant. They're not really, they don't, they don't understand. You can't full of. But I feel like in the real world, you make a big song. You could make one song, grab your money.

20 years of playing shows and collecting streaming checks and everything from that one song. You know. You can make one song, get Olai, breath in that soon, never make a song, they're gonna say you fell off. But you're good at the end of the day. You buy money,

you live in life, you're not where you used to be. If I could make a hit song right now and get $10 million, I don't got to make another song again. They can say I thought, fell off. If I don't care, I'm rich.

Right. I'm living. I'm out here. Definitely. That's how I see it. Especially if you didn't have to, like, sign to a, big ass label in order to get the song.

A lot of people have kind of like given up their publishing and giving up a lot of their potential streamer revenue by the time they get a hit. I still ain't even sound to a major label yet. Really? What makes you turn down the offers that you've gotten? Because I need the right, like, I gotta make sure it's right for me and my career.

You know what I'm saying? Like, a lot of niggas, like, you could throw 50K at a random drill, right? rapper in New York, they're not even gonna read the contract. They're gonna sign that shit. Next thing you know, they got a Cardi for a year. Then they sell a Cardi watch because they don't got no more money from their advance. Their music not going nowhere.

So they damn they're on the shelf and it's over now. You got to buy yourself out your contract. I don't want to be one of them niggins, bro. That shit is scary. I've interviewed a lot of rappers who they were going up, label signed them. did an interview, never really heard about him again. That shit is scary, but... From, like, New York drill type shit, too.

And a lot of times I'm confused. Like, why has the label signing them? What the fuck do they think that they're going to be able to do with this shit? It'd be the hype. Yeah, and then I never really hear anything after that. I don't know. I feel like they're hoping that that person could, like, turn into some big celebrity.

Yeah, that's the thing. The difference with me is, like, I'm trying to be in this shit for the long world. Like, like, y'all said, you heard about my favorite rapper. That I think I've been rapping for, like... what 12 years now? Right. And it's not like it's just up, up, up, up all the time. It's like, you know, keeps it going consistently.

That's the hard part. Exactly. Longevity. That's all that's relieved, like, bigger stress. Longevity. Right. We interviewed some dudes a little while back, duty low and bloody. Were you there when they had this encounter in the airport with the 4-1 people?

No. No. What did you think when you saw that video? I was laughing. Because it's like, damn. It finally ran into each other. So that was supposed to happen for a while, and then it finally did?

Yeah. Shame about nothing. That's a fight. Niggas fight every day. Like, that shit ain't nothing. Right. What I mean? Is that, I mean,

getting it cracking in the airport's kind of crazy, though. You could end up on the no-fly list. It'd be mixed in the airport. You got to be, I don't even wear slippers in the airport no more. Oh, yeah. Sneakers. You don't know who you're going to see, what's going to happen.

You got to be on point at the airport. Especially if you're a face card. Yeah. A lot of people run into the airport. You hear about different rappers, industry people, et cetera, running into each other than airport. And it's not like, oh, I got a big-ass security guard with a gun right next to me to stop anything from happening. It's like anything could happen in that world. I ran into mad rappers in the airport.

That's not the ops. I ran into what's his name? I ran into Little Maboo in the airport. Wow. How was that? In L.A. For me, I broke up for me, he was conversing it. And he went out of wage, for me.

Well, how's that sit with you that he's, like, built up this whole career doing drill music and he's not really from that environment? Fuck it. He doing his thing. He could rap, too, like... Yeah. He could ride, bro. Fuck it. I feel like for a while he was actually dissing people, and then he kind of fell back from that.

He was dissing this? I can't really remember. I don't want to put him on it if it's not true. But I felt like he was getting a little extra with it. Gangsta. I didn't even know that. He should stay away from that. You ain't in that shit.

Like that YouTuber who did the video with a YBC Duel of Brandon Buckingham, he did a song with YBC Duel. And in the song, YVC Duel is shitting on all his ops. And it's like, bro, you're a white dude with glasses, which is hard. And doing a music video with this kid and he's dissing all these people.

And I'm sure you heard, like, you know, one of YBC Duel's ops got killed in McDonald's. So he's always pushing this McDonald's thing. and he's using AI to turn Brandon Bunganham into Ronald McDonald in the video. I ain't even see that. That's a lot. That's like a little, like for sure, if I'm doing a song with some drill rappers, I'm going to be like, yeah, all right.

So we're not going to be smoking on little Timmy in this one. I don't want to be involved with that, you know? That's just me. Yo, that nigger, buddy, you got to stay on plane on. But you know, they shot his shit up. You don't know? He went to Chicago, and he was with Q50. And Skrill and shit.

And the ops lurked on them, plotted on them, shot 60 rounds at him. Brandon Bungham's cameraman got hit in the throat and almost died, a regular-ass dude, I think. And like a couple of, I think Brandon Bungham is the only one who didn't get hit. Kingsden? Yes, in Chicago. Crazy shit. Oh, no. That really made me like, holy fuck.

I'm going to Chicago. I got to move 100% proper. He didn't drop that. Of what he was doing out there? Not that I know of. Oh, yeah. He got to find some little shit to do. He bugger.

Yeah, that's a lot. Okay, so Ruby Rose is your celebrity crush, they told me? What is it about her? You think you could treat her better than Drusky? I think of Drusky. Yo, Drusky? I don't know, man. That shit confused me.

That shit must be all hide. I don't believe that it was a fake relationship. You think that shit was real? Yeah. I don't think that shit was real. You know what I? I don't think that shit's right. I feel like he's just as lit as her.

I feel like that's a good combo. She needs to do a dude like that. There's probably some, some of the shit on the side that we don't know about, bro. It could always be money exchange and hands and shit, but I don't know. I feel like Drusky can get bitches. Like, he don't need to involve himself in some crazy.

I feel like Drusky could get Ruby Rose. Why do you feel like that? He's lit. That's a fact. I just seen him fill a whole fucking arena in Atlanta. I'm like, you just gotta be lit, right? He's lit. All right, what the girl's like?

They love funny dudes. They love dudes with money. They like a guy with a nice personality. Like, all right, yeah, he's fat as fuck. Cool, whatever, who cares? That's the only bad thing you can say about him. He's a fat guy. Like, fat, nah, no, I know fat niggas,

fat niggas, do they think too. Right. And she's so hot. Why does he need to be hot? He's so what? Like, she's hot as far. Mm-hmm. Physically.

Mm-hmm. Why does he need to be hot? Let him be fat. Well, that's what fuck. We're in it for the women. We're in it for the women. Definitely. But all right, when Drusky was dating her or whatever,

people started making collages of all the people who allegedly fucked her. Damn. Would that bother you if you were dating a girl who was lit where, like, there's a record? I wouldn't date no girl that's lit. Oh, really? You can do it? I date a regular girl. Like, that's what I'm on with.

I don't want to let girl, what I'm a lot of pressure. It's not going to go how you want it to go. Everywhere she goes, you got to be thinking about it. There's mad niggas that untouched out. You're just going to have her for me. All somebody got to do is film her. Probably a video on Twitter. But somebody just got to film her and say,

hey, f***, d bills, he a bitch. Boom. Bad day on the internet. Gangster. Now you tight in the crib, reading these comments going through it, ready to crash out of somebody. You know, that's a lot of pressure. You've got to be used to it if you want to be able to deal with that type of shit.

I don't know. All right. So when's the last time you saw Agento? Three months ago. Oh, for real? It's all good now? Yeah, that's my heart. Oh, okay.

I thought that the 401 thing didn't really work out with her and they... No, no, no, that's my heart. I love Agento. That's my twin right there. Okay. Yeah, she's a real one. We celebrated out with birthdays together last year. We got the same birthday and shit.

Really? Mm-hmm. Oh, that's crazy. Shout out of Asian Doe. You think she should have stayed with 4-1, like became an official member? Because we all thought that was the move at a certain point. Because she still got her own brand at the other day, you know what I'm saying? She Asian doors, you know what I feel me?

Definitely. Do you think that Diddy going through all this shit is a bad look for the city? I don't think it's a bad look for the city, bro. I think it's a bad look for Diddy, bro. True. Gangsa. I'm going to pray for him, bro. Have you ever been to one of his bodies?

No. But I totally would have if they asked me. Would a win? Well, I didn't even know that there was anything weird going on. I heard the whole industry don't been to one of the ditty parties. Yeah, and that makes me realize that I didn't reach that level in the industry that I was cool enough to get invited to that shit. There's always levels to that shit. Yeah.

Man, if I ran into ditty and he tried to grab my ass, I probably would have fired on him. I don't care if these body buards are going to. me up. That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, Soldier Boy said he would have beat the dog's shit out of puff or he would have killed him if he had laid a hand on him.

He said that? Yeah. Soldier Boy always ready to crash out. He'll know. Shout on Soldier Boy. But he's always on that. All right, so what are you working on now? Does it feel like pressure since you've had this gigantic fucking song?

Are you trying to like figure out the next one? Or do you just go in the studio? and just keep doing your thing. No, there's never no pressure. I just keep rapping, bro. Because that's how I got here. It's about rapping, making music. Seeing which one pop.

Definitely. I'll go. So I'll go about this shit. Just keep rapping. You guys playing any big shit, like tours or anything like that? Yeah, we're planning a tour. I'm playing a lot of singles. Got a whole schedule.

I'm about to put together for the next six months. We got a lot of shit playing right now. We've got to go crazy. No, that's good. It's good to hear, man. I'm happy to see you blowing up. It's actually, man, that's a good sign that 4-1 are not just, you know, cracking on their own, that they're able to take their homies and elevate them up and- sucks. And we're going to keep doing that, too. You're just going to see more of us just pop up. Anybody else dope from 4-1 we should keep allowed for? Jay Jolato. That's a lot of. I'm my son, Manny. My son, my son, my son, my son, shout out my son.

Awesome, Ralph, it's mad of us, bro. Gangsta, it's mad of us, bro. Free Sheik. Sheik was doing his thing, too. It's mad of us, bro. Gangster. Mad of us. The show.

Well, I'm proud of you. Going crazy. Appreciate that game. Let's keep it going, man. DeBills, New York, stand up. Brooklyn, stand up. You know, side. I know the vows.

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Wait, okay. Late breaking news. What happened with Travis Scott? Well, Travis Scott, Travis Scott took niggas to the movies. I ain't going on. He brought us out to MetLife Stadium, bro. Like, MetLife Stadium.

My Life Stadium is crazy. I don't even understand. We don't perform in arenas. A stadium is like five, ten times the size of a arena. Right. So now when you walk out and you see all these people, you're like, now what the, then when he turn the lights off and all the flashlights come on, it's a different feeling, bro.

Really? You brought it some in front of like 65,000 people. We did it back on, went to the movies, bro. They knew the song. That's crazy. Hey, going crazy. Singing the song, word for word, going crazy. Y'all can't believe that shit.

That shit was crazy. That's dope. Because that's like opening your eyes to what's possible in terms of like, oh, shit. Like, this is, if we keep pushing this music shit, this is how big it could get. Damn, that's got to be a crazy feeling. Word of all. Shout out Travis for that. That's dope, man.

Thank you. Shout out, Tribe. Let's go. Yeah, show. Appreciate it, man.