No Jumper - Delivery Boys on the New York Underground Scene, Going Viral, Ice Spice Getting Thick Again & More

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

Delivery Boys link up with Lush to talk about their rise, early days, On The Radar freestyle, and more. ----- Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22    / adam22    / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's happening in? It's your part of the player, you feel me? Lush, Uno in the building, and I'm very... You lied to me, Lush. No, no, fool, no. You know the vibes more kicks than Cobra. I'm busting shots every time I'm rolling by. This is Uno on the world's coolest podcast, no jumper.

And right as they're about to emerge as superheroes, literally swooping in in this dystopian... times in the world of hip hop. We got these fools right here. My fucking D-boys, man. Yeah, yeah, baby. Young delivery boys. Hailing from Brooklyn, New York.

Now, okay, I instantly became fascinated when I saw y'all for a number of reasons, as we will unpack as the interview commences. But are you guys, like, actually from Brooklyn? Or y'all, you're born and raised. Born and raised. BXR, real, BK kids. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I was between Brooklyn, like, Canarsie and Hollis Queens. Like my grandparents live in my parents live in Hollis. Shouts for Run DMC. Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Christmas and Hollis.

Yeah. Okay. So that you guys are for sure a breath of fresh air on so many levels of bad podcasting. And, you know, like the way you guys bounce off each other, your group dynamics, and the fact that you guys all have original styles. Like, I'd like, let's introduce each one of y'all individually because you guys are like your own entities.

and you come together to, y'all are straight the Power Rangers. Yeah. He understands it. He knows that. He sees, Lutz, Lod!

Because when you hit us up, like, I was like, nah, because lush. You feel? Like, they're not as in tune with the L.A. shit as I am.

They'll tell you, like, all I listen to is, like, the L.A. shit right now. He assimilated. And I was just telling them about you, but, yo, Max,

you go first because, you know, we got to get the Nix, the NICs boy. The stuff? I'm Max Gurdler. What am I supposed to say? He brought sexy back if y'all were going to say.

He brought sexy back. Stuff for debate. It may have never left. Yeah. I'm Goldwood from Brooklyn, delivery boys, rapper. I love rapping. That's it. I'm YGB from Brooklyn as well.

Delivery boys, rapper. We all love rapping. That's it. Lost Boy, BK, from Sunset Park, Brooklyn. and, you know, you already know what it is. Do you remember the movie Sunset Park? No. Okay, there's a, have you heard of it?

No. There's a movie it came out, I want to say, like, I know, Sunset Park had any shine? You know who's from Sunset Park? Takashi 6'9. Yeah, he's holding it down. That's really good. That's what we go.

It's crazy. No, we got crazy. Free to Billy's. Yeah. No, there was a movie. I've never seen that. Yeah, I was with a Ria Pearlman from the show, Cheers. And she was, like, was coaching a downtrod

and basketball team, Sunset Park High. And Fredro Starr was in it. That's crazy. And even Drake says it. He says, I feel like Fredro Starr and that black and yellow North Face in Sunset Park. That's what he's talking about.

I didn't know that. Sunset Park in some shine and some shit that I never thought. I never thought. That's a mando. All right, I'm going to check it out. We'll watch it. Then we'll make a song about it.

Yeah, please. Like when the Migos made John Wick. Remember that song? Bro. I got to start watching movies and then just make a song. I'm so down. I watched No Country for Old Men recently. Oh, yeah.

That's a crazy movie. He made a crazy song about that. That shit is crazy. Imagine that conceptually, like right now. Like, there's no more. The things we take for granted. You feel me? Like, fertility.

Yeah. That's crazy, right? Yeah, bro, that movie, like, first of all, I read the book first because I hadn't seen, I've seen the movie, but I don't really remember it. I read the book and I was like, oh, shit, like, this is wild. Like, I loved, like, the atmosphere of it. And then I saw the movie. And I saw the movie.

And I feel like that movie. is like the only one that I've seen recently that like actually captures like what's in the book well, you know what I mean? Yeah. You can even argue that the movie is like better in a way. Like it's kind of crazy. Like you know, I've never read that book. It's an incredible film. And a movie is either going to make or break.

Right, right, right. Like a book. But then like like for example, if we if we saw like the Grapes of Wrath movie, you feel what I mean? That ain't leaving up to it. Yeah. We're trying to watch criminal and punishment. In 4K. You don't need that.

You guys read way more. Yeah, I like to read. I've been reading poetry. Have you really? I'm trying to like, I've been feeling a little uninspired. So I've been trying to read poetry. Are you never done that before? Are you like a William Blake kind of guy?

Like you romantic type poetry? I'm trying to read shit about people that really, like by people that really with nature. Okay. Just to sort of change my writing a bit. This is a little on some different shit. Yeah. I'm having a crisis right now.

Existential crisis. Just as an artist, I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to regain my confidence. Okay, you're like the lion that lost his roar. Yes. Well, I mean, not really, though, because, I mean, behind the scenes, maybe. Not outwardly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you would never know. You would never know.

We were talking about this today, like, we make so much music. Yeah. And we were just talking about how, like, ghost writers, like, are a real thing, but that we don't ever have that. So we're constantly drawing inspiration from different things, watching movies, reading books and shit like that. Just so we always have some new shit to keep it going. Yeah, that's why we always make a bunch of different shit too. Well, yeah, and I think the fact of the matter is you guys have incredible pens.

Y'all are all great lyricists. You know what I'm saying? With your own steezes. But normally people that have, like, lyrical abilities like y'all are relegated to being ghost records. Right. They don't get the chance to be primary artists out there, you feel me? But I think you guys might be an exception to that rule. We're not going to let that happen.

We will be for show. We've been at this. I mean, we've been a group. It's 2025 now, so we've been a group for 10 years. Wow. How old are you all? I'm 28. Okay.

I'm 27. 27, yeah. Yeah. So you guys been rapping since y'all was like damn near in high school. Yeah, yeah, before that. And all the old music is still on the internet. Like, you could get us find the first song I ever made with Duop Kane. Wow.

I made that song. I went to this niggas crib. It was on one of them, I'm sure microphones, like live performance microphone. And then we paid, like, doop came some small amount of bread

to get on it. And that shit, like, he was probably, like, 40,000 views, bro. And I was the most hype I've ever been.

That song is ass, bro. Yeah, that song is fire. It's fire. He always says that shit is ass. That shit is fire,

bro. Yeah. I mean, the point is we came a long way and, like, the pens weren't always like this. It took a lot of work

to get like that. Yeah. So I saw you guys say previously that y'all were really inspired, like, by the whole group era, like the, like pro era, Flatbler, zombies, ASAP, mob, and all the, because it's funny because... Blue Waffle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh?

That shit, you don't remember that? That has nothing to do with rap groups. That is, nah, but that was... Just that era? Yeah, that was, not that song specifically, that song specifically was, like, one for me. Like, I remember hearing... Oh, oh, you're talking about the song. Oh, you think.

I thought I was just talking about blue waffle. He got the guawawful? Is it called thugwaffe? Thugwaffe? Oh, I thought it was called Blue Waffle. He's trying to, like, he's trying to subvertly get a message across.

I thought I was called Blue Wawks. There's gonna be at least few people like Google that shit now. For sure. Please Google it. They need that experience. This is a Trojan horse operation. If I had to see, you have to see. The Blue Waffle.

That's crazy. Yeah, without those groups, there's no delivery boys. Like, we started it because of that. We're fans of music First. Like Flatbush zombies Like you were saying pro era Stees Day bro

Stees Day Yeah yeah Steve is the man All the shows like Irvin Plaza Bro Irvin Plaza used to Frizzes By theater

The Flatbush zombies Would be there Yeah And niggas was staying outside Like the whole day Just to get tickets Yeah And those niggas was really like

Walking around and shit Like I remember walking To do the floss For my best friend Jalani And we would see like Mici Darko Like just on his stoop Rolling Up and shit

And just say what's up Like they were like They were like Yeah, I saw zombie juice at Best Buy with my mom And I was like a teenager And he's like fresh to death And he's like out there He's super psychedelic so he looks

You know, he has like an aura about him And I like dapped him up I was like yo like juice And my mom was like that's your friend Oh this is the crowd You're intermingling with Yeah Those were the underachievers

They were super tight Yeah Yeah they're dope Our homie Tom has like a song With one of them now Think so yeah Shout out to Life of Tom Yeah shout out life of Tom

Goat It's crazy because like I always thought that there was kind of a disconnect in the generations of New York underground because there was such a clear lineage for a long-ass time. Then it seemed to kind of get like disenfranchised, you know what I mean? And I felt like a lot of the more lyrically inclined people that I knew from the, from the towns were more leaning towards like battle rap and things like that. Hey, just a word. Did you guys know that you could have seen this full interview a couple of weeks ago if you were just a member?

That's right. For $5 a month, you get early access to all of our interviews before the clips drop, and they're completely uncensored. So no annoying censorship. You get to hear all the swear words. It's great. You'll love it. $5 a month, hit the link down in the description or go to YouTube.com slash no jumper. Appreciate you. So you guys are kind of, it's dope that I felt like that era kind of like re-semented the group thing. Because back in the day, it was all about groups. Yeah, you know, woo, Mobb Deep, all that, MOPP, like. And then I think at a certain point, obviously people realize, well, we got to split the money up.

It's like becomes very complicated. So, but you guys, how did y'all actually form as a group? And when did y'all make that decision? Yeah, so 2015. 2013, the two of us and our other homie were like outside of this hookabar. And we were just trying to figure out names. And he was doing like delivery for this deli. And I was selling weed and doing like postmates sometimes, mostly selling weed.

Certain types of deliveries. And then we were just like, why don't we just call ourselves delivery boys? Yeah, boom. Because boys was also like a thing, like the sad boys. Yeah, I'm a big Beastie Boys fan. So Delivery Boys, yeah. And like, we did it, we started it. Okay, I was rapping.

I knew Max was rapping. We grew up on the same street. He started rapping. You were probably the last to start. Yeah, I was making beats. He was making beats. He was seen on a track. The first song with Du Al Cane, I made that beat.

Bro, we're... That's bad asses. We were mad inspired by, like, Rat King. There was like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was gonna ask about Wiki. Big inspired by them because, like, something about them, like, they were, they were really, like, artists. You know, my cover photo used to be, like, a photo of me dapping up Wiki at, like, some music.

Yeah, they had this... They had this serious, like, gritty... You gotta know that? Yo, all right, so... That's why he's missing... No, let me tell you... Let me tell you what happened, bro. Max opened for Wiki at my...

my college that I dropped out of, right? And so I was like the OD like like Rat King fan, whatever. Like we would always go to all the shows in New York, whatever. And I was just like hype. And like I was just mad faded out of the show. And this nigga was like, yo, do you want to like slapbox? And this nigga slapped the shit out of me. Like I was like, I was like, no, I was trying to like weave.

And this nigga just slapped the shit out of me. But at the same time I had seen backs open for Wiki. And we had like chopped it up after that. And that's actually how me and him became friends. And that's I dropped out after that and went to. I just stayed at his crib. Wait, but I just need to know, did you agree to the slap box?

Yeah, no, it was like, you're like, I was mad. Was it like in good fun? Yeah, it was fun. The nigga slapped me. It was like, yo,

my bad, like he wasn't like, the nigga wasn't like mad. Like, it was just funny because I got slapped and was like hype to tell people. I was like, yo,

we were like, I was at the show and I was on the stage and one of the guys in Racking pushed me into the crowd and I fucking told everybody. Yeah. The guy's Mac King like pushed me into the crowd. It was so lit,

bro. Because they have motion in New York. People don't remember this. And it's crazy that you're talking about all this shit with like the underachievers. And like how, because that's just like where we came from. And I know that there was this space in between where it was kind of like drill started happening. And all of the attention in New York went to that. But during that time, there's like this little mixing pot that was going on with the underground shit.

And now it's turned to artists like Life of Tom and the guys over at one more. There's so many people that are just starting to like move like move. You're catching on to us, but it comes with like a whole scene right now that people are just discovering. And it's getting back to that sound. So it's like it's staying very true to that New York rapping, which is like, what's another kid? Lord Scholl? Yeah, Lord Scho. Yeah.

Lord Scho. He posted this snippet yesterday. I lost my shit. It was fire. And he's like, these guys are rapping, rapping. So it's like, yeah. It's good to be around that. And this is what I love about y'all, though, is like, y'all are not super caught up in like,

the traditional boom bap tropes. You're clearly true school emcees and you understand it and love the foundation, but y'all are like going off in a lot of different cool directions. Yeah, we've had a lot of sounds over the years. A lot of sounds. I mean, he's, like, he's groundbreaking.

Like, what he did on the first on the radar, like, really just told, like, oh, he's different. Like, he's not all these references that just, like, niggas are not, like. Like, I remember when we were at the, so, like, before we did the On the Radar, we all, like, got together and, like, spit each other our verses and shit.

And we were choosing beats. And the Viva LaVita came up and he started rapping. But the original Viva Leveda was, like, a little bit too fast or something, right? So I put it in logic. And I very speeded it down, like, 5%. Nothing crazy. That's the cold play joint, right? The cold play, right?

Yeah. Nigger rapped on it. And we were all like... Perfect. Yo. And we were all, like, you know, we lived in the bill. And we all, like, stood up next to our couch and just, like, wrap this shit, like, one after the other and we were like, I bet, we got this. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, I'm telling you, bro, when we went to go do that first on the radar, niggas had no idea that it was going to, like, we were going to get any attention from that shit. No idea. We just like, fuck it. Because our homie, yo, shout out, cow. Shout to cow. Like, he knew us from way back when we was doing our first shows and shit.

It was like, yo, y'all got to come on the radar. And, like, for us, that's, like, huge. But we didn't know anything about going viral or any of that shit. And we go on there. And then I remember, like, when it dropped, dropped a couple months later. It was crazy. I was in Colombia. It dropped one year ago tomorrow.

Yeah. Wow. So this is all happened. And we just dropped one a couple days ago. A couple days ago, right. And the shit starts going up. And that's not that I'm going up. And I'm just seeing mad hate in the comments, bro. And I had never gone. Congratulations. I didn't know that was good, bro. Like, I'm like, I'm like tweaking. I'm like, bro, we just like blew up our rap careers by being like. They hate us. And then they started being some love. Once they're tweeting. I saw guys were having like a meat off. my comments. That's how you know,

bro, you did something good when they're comparing their dick size. Yeah, there was somebody commented or a shit or my shit or some shit like that. And I like made this comment that was kind of like making fun of him. Bro, to this day that comment probably has like 50,000. Like that's my biggest comment. Just me being like, oh, we're like, let's see you try it.

Or some dumb shit like that. I got more likes on a clap back than you will have accumulated in the entirety of your existence. Yeah, like a four word thing. And it's crazy because, yeah, so I seen him yeah over that John

And then you Flip this like drill shit Yeah But you barring out You feel me like Like you took it was like the The first one was the rather be with you right You flipped the

The first one I think I did Redbone Yeah yeah I'm sorry That's the That's what it samples What was the second one? Mr. Lonely Yeah yeah yeah Yeah

No red bone samples I'd rather be with you Oh yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah I knew that shit I knew like it came from somewhere Yeah he know a little bit more No no much

You lunch Yo, gosh. I'm showing my age, that's it. I'm just impossible. But, like, and then when I seen you tweaking, I was like, oh, okay, he doing the drill shit, but with bars. And I was like, wait, do my eyes deceive me, or are they actually rapping? They're not fucking lip-sinking. The breath control is immaculate.

Like, damn, like, and then each and every one of y'all, like, all, I was like, oh, and the way y'all feed off each other, like, you feel me? The second one was so hard. And the beat selection is everything else is cool, but the beat selection is when I knew, these guys are cool as fuck, you feel, and he like, when you chose Mary J. Blige, I'm like, bro, get this guy the fuck out of here, bro.

I never wanted to-tick. It took me forever to pick me on that. Yeah, I remember, like, I was trying to get him to do some, like, hey there, Delilah type shit. Yeah, we wanted to kind of do something similar, but I was like, you know what? Because I did the one before the Christmas one. I don't know if you saw it, but we were part of the Christmas cipher.

That shit went, I had no idea it was going to go up. It went up, and I was like, maybe they need to hear me with like a solid backbeat. And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. So, like, solid. He didn't have no drums before. And then he got them dray drums, you feel me, like.

And that beat is crazy. No reiteration in the dancery whatsoever. Like, whatsoever. And then, yeah, you was on the lonely beat, you feel me? And that really stood out the whole way you was flipping it. Thank you, man. And you really stuck out, like, with your punchlines. And you were, like, barring out on some jazz.

Gen Z shit, you feel me? Super like topical Gen Z, but like barred out. You know, I come from battle rap, so I'm a puncher. That's what I was telling them. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I knew you would understand it of all people because I was like, this nigga really has been in the scene. Yeah, no, like, I'm like the bar analyst in this month.

I'm the only person that cares in a 20-mile radius. That's a big thing. We often will like, like the way this, like we used to make music that was not really like that. Like, that's our roots. but it was in 2020 during the pandemic the first time we really were like competing with each other and we can have a better reference

who can make the other one laugh or like who can just like have a harder bar and that sort of changed the trajectory of our music after that because we made like party music before which we still do. To this day bro I still call this nigga the bar police I'll write like a 16 or like a 24 with like some crazy shit

but if I say one thing that's almost crazy but it kind of doesn't make sense I'm getting tight I'm getting tight, bro. It's got it's got to be right. I got all the examples in my head, too. I'm not going to lie. What do you say?

Babe got me looking like a hype beast Asian. I know that that's the Harley one. Yeah, I was tripping because gang was like, I'm riding in a Harley. And I had to, like, sit there and explain to the. Yeah. And he was armed better to say in. Yeah. I was beat with him, and he didn't like that.

He didn't like that. He didn't like, no Harley. Yeah, that's what I said. I was like, no over eyes. We hold ourselves to a high standard. It's nice, though, because sometimes, like, if you have one questionable bar out of your 16, like, you got three people that will, like, check you on that and make sure. Yeah, for sure.

Sometimes we will try some crazy things. Yeah, we get together and we rap shit. They'll say some crazy shit. Like, we, like, trust each other a lot. You feel me? So it's, like, I'll, like, sit down, like, with these niggas, and I'll, like, wrap, like, the four first bars of my verse, right? And I'll just, like, play it out loud and be like, how's that sound?

And niggas will tell me, like, now, you should do it like this or they'll be, like, it's good. And sometimes even if I'm not f***ing with it yet, if I play it and the first thing niggas is say is like, yeah, it's good, keep going. And I'm like, all right, I'm going to keep trying this shit. Now, you know the reaction. You know the reaction. We've been making music. We've spent over 10,000 hours together in the studio, like two times over. Yes, we know each other.

But we also grew up, like me and you seen met in second grade. We all grew up together. It's real family shit. And I think that's why that sort of comes through. Like, what's the word I'm looking for? The camaraderie. Yeah, the camaraderie and the genuineness. And like the honesty.

Like the honesty is the most important thing. I don't want to leave Max off bad and bougie. I got to give him this flowery. He went up. Hey, not like this dude is the stees. You feel me? He had ass. He brought sexy back.

He really did. I didn't go like because I was like, look, I was with my girl in like a room full of hood bitches. And I'm like that don't listen to any like lyrical type music or nothing like that. You feel? me. And I was like, I'm like, hey, peep these new fools that I found.

Like, I'm about to, I'm about to try to, like, do something with these guys and interview them and all that. And they was, like, fucking with it. They were feeling all y'all. Then when this boy came on, they were like, oh, okay, white boy. Yeah. You are white boy? Yeah.

What's the bar? You're like, like, eyes up here. Like, don't look. Eyes out here and not a piece of me. That was so stupid, bro. Yeah. Snap. Yeah.

Yeah. I was crazy. I feel like as silly as possible, just like have fun with it. Yeah, bro. Yeah, he delivers. Max has that stees, man. He's just so himself. He was like, he was never like, you know, trying to be anything besides just like, who he is.

He's like a jokester and he always has these ideas for us that are just like crazy over the top. Like he was like, he was like, yo, let's come to the interview all wearing suits. Yeah, it was a job interview. I was a job interview. I was a job interview. I was like, yeah, but we don't have enough time to all get suits. I would have loved it. I would have loved it.

Next time. I thought this was a job interview. I feel like you guys really represent a true spirit of like New York City that a lot of people don't know exists, especially nowadays because they're only getting like what's presented. Yeah. That's like the only imagery. And like so I think it's really important that y'all exists and show what do you think about like what's going on in New York right now? Not just musically. No, just like, just as a culture.

Like, you know what I mean? One thing that's concerning me is that they're building a super jail in Chinatown. They're about to like, they're fucking up Chinatown. They like, they shut down Rikers, right? And we grew up on the street that had, that has a jail in it. And they knocked it down so they could build down. Yeah. And then their plan is to fucking move Rikers into the middle of Chinatown,

which is like an incredible cultural hub in the city. And they're going to destroy that community that's been there for hundreds of years to build the world's first skyscraper jail. That's like dystopian. Why the fuck do we even need that? I didn't even know about that until you just said that and I saw some on YouTube.

That's crazy. That's deaded. We're not doing that. But in terms of me, I don't know, I feel like I just, I know we did this, but I got to give my flowers to the other artists that are doing shit. Kind of, you know, like we are like in the same lane like really bringing back that New York sound like

Hergy Baby Life of Tom, the Whatmore Boys, Lord Skow, like all. Soul Child, like Ben Beal. Everyone's bringing back. I feel like we're about to hit another golden age of like New York rap. It seems like it. And I'm glad to be a part of it. Aaron Veal.

Yeah. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I was going to say. Yeah. Baby Osama. Yeah. Shout out.

He's so hyped to say that shit, bro. He's so I'm so hyped to say that. Cashgo bingo is crazy. Absolutely. See, that's the thing. We get so much diversity now that I feel like it's just, it's so positive. for New York as a whole. And it's, I just love to see, like,

artists, like, really fucking with each other and being in the same place. I was just thinking about how, like, how, like, I was listening to, like, like, boozy badass talk about, like, how after Big Neach got out of jail, they were about how this big-ass concert with, like, little baby, like, all those dudes.

And I was, like, damn, it would be so dope if there was just some shit in New York where it was, like, all the genres just get together. And, like, in big-ass-ass concert, no matter if it's small or big. Because we used to have that. Like how chance to be getting splift, B, what are my dad?

dead. You're trying them up. That reminds me of how, like, chance to rapper used to have, like, concerts with Lucky and shit. For sure. Chicago,

with different size of it. Like, all that, all the new drill shit, like, all the new music, like, I'm, like, heavily fucking with,

like, I, like, really fuck with, like, the Kyle Rich niggas, like, Jen Carter. Yeah, they're hard.

And my, my little, I know that it's lit because my little sister and, like, my little cousins put me on that. Like, I went to New York,

like, I think this was, like, the last, on the radar or whatever and I'm like in my living room and my dad he's like a DJ but he plays like Jamaican music reggae like that's all type shit but I see my little um my niece heaven bro she's like eyes glued to the TV like listening to Jen Carter and knowing every word mind she's like 11 like 10 or 11 yeah and every my mom even knows some of the words just because

her daughters and her nieces and all of those like listen to it I'm like damn like they really tapped in bro like that's really what New York is right now and like Because I live out here, I don't get to like, like, I know the people around me in New York. You know, I know, like, the different types of music that we do. But when it comes to the drill, I'd be seeing it because, like, all my friends are from there. But when I went there and really sat down with my family and my cousins and stuff and, like, saw what they wanted to put on and how into it they were, I'm like, that's fine. Yeah, you realize how big it was. It's still is.

It still is. And, yeah, when someone that's 10 years old is listening to this crazy shit, I'm like, I bet. It's like, I bet. It's like, when I. They already went through two generations. They had like busy banks. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they got a whole new generation.

And I just think that's lit, man. Chef G just got locked. You know, like, I f***ed it. It's a great energy. Like, I love the fact that they, I like the, of all the different drill genres, I like the New York drill because of the tempo and the pools made it danceable.

And they be doing what we do, bro. They'd be just flipping that old shit and maybe it fires. I mean, it was already fired. They did it do with their voice, too. Like people take risks with their voice too I really appreciate that like when people Like use G's and shit You feel me like

Like like the way they scream and shit Like I fuck with Max the demon That's really cool Max the Demon Like had a crazy run Yeah bro Or five years ago He kind of disappeared

And then he's like I think he got locked Maybe I don't know I'm not sure Shout out to him From the story I heard of assumption It was like something like he wasn't able to put out music

Oh he got son You got a shelf or some shit? Yeah. But I think he started recently putting out stuff again, and it's cool, but I don't know. Like, he's going to bring it back. I'm hoping he's going to bring it back. Yeah, I think he's got a motion again. I mean, I don't know.

All I know is that nigga of fire. Max Harrod, Michelle. Yeah, that's good. Max go crazy. Now, you had a bar. I think it was in the second on the radar where you said, if you compare me to action, you said, you said, who were action? Madman.

Macon action That's awfully gracious If you compare me to Geezy That shit feel racist Now It's facts That's how I feel

All the comments are like Shit bro sounds like M Bro sounds like GZ Bro sounds like logic No I don't They see a white face rapping well And they just already

They always gonna say that Everyone says I sound like little dicky And that shit kind of gets me Damn Yeah nah I thought was a dicky as a dude You have some little dicky as them You got some of a little subject.

I'm just Jewish and funny. I was going to say he's chosen people for show. I didn't say it. Yeah, that's not so. I mean, Mac and Action are two of my favorite rappers. Goats. Yeah. MacGillard.

Yeah. Important to us. Yeah, in high school, like, that was the shit, bro. We used to listen to Doom. Mac Miller, pro-era, Action Bronson, like, niggas like that. Action Bronson was, like, it for me. Yeah, when I first heard of him. We knew everywhere to.

We used to sit around and just... Yeah, been to hell. You know when you were a fan of some shit and it just don't matter how many times you see them live? Yeah, exactly. You're like, oh, yeah. It doesn't matter, bro. We used to sit around at our homie's crib, pretty much shuffle through Doom songs and Bronson songs and just sit there and like look at each other and just rap every fucking

That ass. To this day, you know when you like play a song that's like nostalgic that you haven't heard in a while and everybody's like, yo, like if you play any action, Bronzen off of like Blue Chips 2. Blue Chips and Blue Chips 2. Those shit was crazy. The 9-4-11. The joint with him and riff-raft.

Yeah, burn on a wire. Better slow down, baby. Crazy. Yeah, bro. That shit is like my Bible, bro. Blue Chips, too, is like my fucking Bible, brother. That's just, like, how to rap. Shout out.

Yeah, that shit is. No, for sure. And Doom is crazy to see how many generations he transcended. I'm so happy, but I was scared that, like, niggas wouldn't appreciate it. And, like, I'd be seeing, like, 50. 15 year olds being like, oh, rest in peace. Bro, I was listening to... You were special herbs on the way here,

but... Yeah, we were. Yeah, we were. Yeah, my first tattoo was Doom's mask. That's awesome. Yeah. And I actually got to see in 2004 at, uh, in San Francisco,

I saw MF Doom, Jay Dilla and uh, Madlib all before I'm together. It was Jay Liv and... And that was the peak, too. That was the year in, in 2004, he put out M Food and Mad Fillion. Yeah, yeah. In the same seven months apart, that shit is fucking crazy. I don't have to my fucking life. Yeah.

It was the hard of show. I didn't even know that existed. We were together. We were together when they announced that he died. We were skating. I was like in a car with my girl and I like cried. Yeah, I was super. Bro, check.

Oh my God. I can talk about it now because I haven't been with this hell for a while. But yo, my ex-bitch. My egg bitch. I felt bad because it was like, bro, it's New Year's Eve. Because remember they announced that Doom died on New Year's Eve. He really died on. In October, yeah.

Yeah, but they said on New Year's Eve, right? New Year's Eve. And my girl's auntie is literally like on her deathbed. You feel me? Like drawing her last breaths and she's like, I'm supposed to be consoling her. And I'm sad about Doom. We're like crying. She's like, I'm so sorry.

Yeah, exactly. We get in the whip and like put on Operation Doom's Day and start getting nifty. I'm like, God. She's with my auntie. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, it's a tough day for all of us. Exactly. We all took a hell today, babe.

Don't sweat the details. I didn't even go alive. She was treacherous. No, it's dope to see, like, that he actually, you know, and it goes to show the importance of actually being cool and having, like, an image and all that. And you guys, like, I feel like a lot of fools that I know that are, like, precocious rappers, you know,

still in their 20s and younger. They're not cool people. They're not getting They're not like They don't want to dress wavy They're not trying to be fly You gotta be fresh too You gotta be fresh, bro

Come on. Like y'all seem like You all are cool ass dudes And I think that's gonna It's all It's the culture we were raising It's New York Yeah you can't be in New York

And be an herb I mean hip hop is just so big now too Bro like Like you have like You have like The underground Which I was telling these niggas Isn't even like

What the underground is anymore It's like Dude's like Yeat was a part of the under Right And now you have is battling who's the king of the underground they all dress like a fucking vampire well yeah the underground is now like the new sound cloud yeah and that's different from like

underground hip hop right i'm i i've always kept my ear to the ground yeah he's always i'm super tapped in with i follow every trend and it's funny because most of the shit i listen to is not even close to the stuff that i yeah me neither right at all at all no and that's cool i like that yeah that's good because you got to offset your influences and like that's why i'm reading poetry there you go you feel me like a distinguished gentleman I'm reading poetry and I'm listening to Xavier Sobates

I encourage you look into look into Ralph Waldo Emerson he's a philosopher you feel me that fool got bars like on some poetry yeah no cap now um

so a lot happened after that first on the radar and we're not going to say who but you had some major label interests and all that and you like what was that whole experience like it was weird I mean, it's so exciting for us because 10 years in the game and, you know, like, this was our, this was our biggest moment, you know, and we felt like, this is it, you know. And a lot of times, I don't know, we felt, we're a well-oiled machine.

You know, we've been doing this for so long. We do everything by ourselves and we needed an influx of cash to, like, make shit work. And we would have these meetings and people would be like, we'd talk with them and we'd take all this time to talk with them. And then they'd be like, all right, yeah, like, if you do it again, we'll call. Yeah, yeah. You go in a meeting, they'd be like, what's your TikTok looking like? Y'all be on TikTok and I'm like, yeah, but niggas rap too. The real way, the real way that I would explain it is like, right now,

and I don't blame anyone for this, but, like, everybody is just looking to make money off of you and nobody's looking to invest in you in a way where they, like, think that you're going to be, like, something that, like, really is just raw as shit, you know what I'm saying? And, like, we're raw as shit. Like, you hear the lyrics, you hear all of that. And I don't think that it was like we, I think it was just like the wrong people were like stepping to us and didn't really understand like the vision of delivery boys. Not to say that I knock any of the labels that we talk to or talking to that we talked to because they, they gave us that little bit of motivation to say, oh like y'all, y'all got it. You know, we immediately made an album after that.

Yeah, exactly. So now it's good feedback, right? But it's hard for people to take a risk right now. on something that's not solidified. Like most of the people you see getting signed have done most of the work themselves. Exactly. And, you know, that was our first, like, big viral moment.

So, I mean, things have continued to build the trajectory since, you know, one year ago tomorrow has been fantastic better than we could have hoped. So we're just going to keep pushing. And it's also, it's just part of our nature to remain true to our artistry and remain true to ourselves and just keep grinding. Like, we are never going to give up, bro.

We are never going to give up no matter what. And that's kind of the, core. Especially not now. Especially not now. But even during the 10 years when nobody gave a fuck. Yeah, yeah. There was a good 10 years before now that was like kind of tough. They was really didn't give a fuck. Nobody gave a fuck and now people give a fuck and it's cool.

Was there like, did you guys have? Because I wasn't, you guys remind me a lot of like me and my homies back in the day and we're a group, you feel me. Delmon Cruz still got that shit tatted on me. Delinquent monastery. You know that's from a fucking era. You know, that's like super underground. We have a name like that.

I like that name. But worst name ever, but it was us. That's a dope name. We want to, there you go. We all, yeah, we all have the same. And it starts with DEL, just like, oh. You feel me? But we started out.

There's like 20 of us and then we got whittled down to like the three of us that were actually, that people wanted to hear. Were you guys like a bigger collective and then everyone stayed kind of like? She had niggas making clothes. We had niggas taking photos, shooting videos. And then it kind of, it did get whittled down when we all moved to LA. Like, because that was like... And it's still there, but like, you know, you know, we are like the delivery boys.

And the whole bigger picture is like the delivery boys and then something. Yeah. Like when we first started, yeah, it was like... Because we were super into odd future back then. And everybody was odd future back then. So it was like, yeah. You wrote your first verse over Earl Sweatcher beat, right? How did you not hit?

That's crazy. Yes, I did over the dad-ass beat. That shit was f***ing fire. But, yeah, like, when we first started. That was cool. That was cool. That made me feel cool. But when we started, it was, like, everybody, like, you're our homie.

You're our homie. Delivery boy. Deliverty, delivery. But then, not. It was like, we're a rap group. Yeah, everyone's a delivery boy until it's time to actually rap good. Yeah, and put money in this shit. This is an expensive dream to have, man.

For sure. And work. Just like work, man. Yeah. Put in the word. Put the timing, you know what I mean? Like,

show up. Yeah, 1,000 percent. How happy are we on a scale of 1 to 10 that ice spices is once again thick? 10, 10 out 10. Maybe 11.

10,000. So exciting. I'm not going to lie. I said that was going to happen. When she got skinny, I was like, this is going to be the greatest return that niggas have ever seen.

Everybody was on the internet hating. And I was like, y'all niggas, don't understand. She's going to come back thick. And it's going to be the, Bro. And then she told her that picture.

And he did it. And he texted us in the group chat. I told you. See, I told you, bro. Like, you see what I said? Marketing genius. Exactly. It's all part of it.

It's like when 2K removes a feature and then brings it back the next year. And they're like, oh, we got this new feature. They're playing you. They're playing you. I'm going to try something different with you guys right now. I've never done this on no jumper. Since y'all are lyricists, want to know if y'all are down to play a game. Oh, hell yeah.

It's called bar pong. Okay. You want to play bar pong? Okay. So basically, it's just a syllable rhyming game, all right? So I'm having, we'll have you, bro. You just choose a word or phrase, and then we all got to rhyme it. You feel me?

We'll go start with me. You got a rhyme it like, actually rhyme it like, you know, like vertebrae doesn't rhyme with grenade. It rhymes with like, you'll get served today. You guys get it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's get it.

Let's get it. Yeah. That's easy. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be a little more complicated.

Yeah, yeah This Nick was cooking over there He said Brunson Yeah Ananobe Ananovi You feel in me like Okay

I'm a shooter like that man Genoblee I'm a shooter like that man Genomily Like the spliff pass to the homie And I always been a fan of Kobe And these bitches think they know me They don't know me Popping Zanz

I got a hand of bogies. I'm not going to eat the pizza if you add anchovies. Oh. Oh, yeah. Kick shit, real goalie. I'm smoking Piff with a random homie.

I'm with my boys. I'm never doly. Since 2012, we was fucking shit up like Coney. I'm going to flip the script on 12 and Jack the Polies. Jack the police in the alley drinking Stolely.

I ate mad canoles I used to watch Roly Poliolioli Used to bump squid nice But I'll never buy my lonely That's tough Okay, you see This is real lyricism

You see how his mind works, bro He's wrong He's right It's 2012 By far Yeah, yeah I'm only snap Fazy

Let's go Let's go Donnie pick a phrase My brain is vibrating Swinging and banging. All right. Swanging and banging. Fives up.

That's the gang that I'm claiming. Fives up. That's the gang from claiming. Sunset Park. Takashi 6. Knob, my nuts hanging, they got. When I'm on the track,

I claim to be flaming. Stainless steel on my neck, my changs be banging. Like a Karen, they want to talk to my manager, but they ain't complaining. I was sexually frustrated until I met that sluttered a bus station.

No, you got it, bro. You got it, bro. You got it, bro. You let's see. That's a real battle rap, making that thing. Get him in the stove. Delivery boy, you've got me.

I'm in France. Yes. All right, I'm in France. Wait, wait. All right, let me ask you a question. Because we, we, there's often nights where we just sit and watch battle rap. Yeah.

I was going to ask you about that. Yeah, yeah. What's, like, your favorite, like, All-time battle rap bar. Do you remember it? One bar? Damn. That's okay.

I would say this full, all right, disaster was battling this full of DNA. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In 2011, he said, there's a rumor, it's untrue about the homie DNA that his mom was.

What a rumor, what a rumor. We cleared it up. It's not true. It's not true, yeah. Basically, like, he took care of his mom or something like that. But she's completely, like, she's a beautiful, regular woman, right? Regardless, right, this battle rap.

Regardless, your mom was a tardity. Yeah, your mom's just what I say she is. So he said, um, he said, my job description, I split wigs like a salon beautician. This 38 is special like your mom's condition. Oh, my God. That's so funny. That's so funny to eat. He did them dirty.

I want to try that shit. I want to try. Totally care. It's a different style. You 100% have the skill set. All you guys could do that shit. But it's such a different, like, I would have to, like, study more. Like, we watch it a decent amount, and it's mad fun, but, like, I got to tap in.

And, like, we should. Yeah. What was it like for you? Okay. So, first of all, I'll answer that. But there's a league in New York called I Battle. I suggest you check them out. And I think that y'all would fuck with them.

Yeah. They would fucking embrace y'all and it be, like, a whole new. spawned. Now, what was what, like, for me? Like, battle rap, like, you know what I mean? So, so basically, like, dude, like, when I started rapping, if you were an MC, you were fin of battle.

You know what I'm saying? I'm, like, from the 90s and shit. Yeah, I felt that. It's like some eight-mile shit. Yeah, yeah, but, like, everybody, literally, no matter what, don't matter if you were, there wasn't as many subsections or, like, it was just, like, hip-hop, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, there's more party-oriented shit, there's more gangster street shit, but everybody, if you rap, so you're going to jump off the porch and battle at a certain point. So the concept of like, quote unquote, battle rap

didn't really exist. It was like, if you was nice for freestyles, you've been to battle, blah, da, da, da, da. And then it wound up, like, becoming this big thing on the internet. And, like, I was one of the first people that was involved. I always say, like, the first, like, 100 or 200 people that were known in battle rap type shit, you feel I mean?

And then we started uploading videos at YouTube. And we were, like, the first people doing it me and the homies. And boom, like, that's just viral. And we got a deal with, World Star and blah-da-da-da-da. So it's like really when you're in the middle of the fucking weeds, you can't really see. You lose perspective. Yeah, you don't know how big it's going to be.

Yeah. Yeah, I felt that. Yeah, it's like you look back on like you guys are talking about that era of New York that was so like impactful for y'all. Like when it was going on, that was just your life. You know what I mean? It was everything. You don't realize how special it is until it's not there anymore.

Yeah. Speaking of batter rap, have you ever seen that shit? I don't know what it's called, but it's when they have to battle each other but say only nice thing. Complement battles. I fucking love that. That's the homie Rohn that runs that shoe in martial school. Yeah, shout out.

Shut up. That shit. It's so hot. I could watch that shit for hours. Yeah. And we did. Yeah. Yeah, we get drunk and smacked.

Then we just like watch that shit. And we're like, yeah. We watch, we watch Frozone. Yeah. What's his name of Rosenberg? Yeah. Yeah. He's my favorite.

He's my favorite. He's my favorite. He's my favorite. He's fire. That's the homie. Chouts to Rosenberg. You all should do like, y'all should complement battle each other type. Yeah, that was the same.

Like two on two teams compliment battle each other. And who's the dude who's on while and out now? Frack. Frack is the man. That's my boy. I actually interviewed Frack on No Jumper a little while ago, you feel me? I noticed he followed you guys as well. Yeah, yeah.

Our on the radars came out around the same time and we connected. Frack, I'll like go on a limb and say probably like off the dome freestyles. Yeah. Probably like the best in the world right now. He's up there, bro, no cap. And I, like, I rhyme with a lot of the best. Like, that little boy different, though. Yeah, he's so nice.

Yeah, he's nice with it. Yeah, he's nasty. But it's dope to see that because there's no way that you can rap as good as y'all do and that battle rap hasn't infiltrated your psyche. No, for sure. No, you know we fuck with bars, bro. Punchlines are like, we live for that shit. Yeah.

Yeah. Y'all got that shit. So, I mean, what's next? What we got, like, you got projects? Yeah, we got a song come. We're doing like a little rollout right now. We have a song coming out called Mocococons. It's dropping in about a week or so.

Doing a big rollout for that. Baby. Yeah, eight. April eight. And then I'm dropping a song with World Star and Genius, which is going to be sick. Yeah, shout out to them. I'm dropping a song called Boss Fight. It's crazy.

It's going to be a big opportunity because, like, the video is going on World's Star. Are you working with Andres and Genius? I'm mostly speaking with George. Jordan at World Star. Yeah. And, um, shout out Rob Mark. Yes,

absolutely. He used to work at 10 Deep. And back in the day, he, he, like, when we were first doing this shit, he brought us to the 10 deep shit. Yeah,

10 deep was the fucks. Gave us, just out of him. Yeah. Feeling y'all, you do not under a short end of 10 deep. And then add that for him to come back and, like,

yeah, I know. That's, that's raw. Shout out to him. We get, like, boxes and boxes of these 10 deep rolling papers. And we would smoke,

like, Them exclusively for me like five. Just 10 D papers. Doing that and then, I mean, we have so much music that we want to put out. It's just about being strategic, putting the money in the right place, you know, because, like, we understand the business of this. We're not kids anymore. We've been doing it for a long time.

So the plan is to be strategic, drop the best shit, hopefully get a project out, you know. We got some crazy music videos coming out. Big music videos. Why did y'all move to this shit hole? To make an album with YT. Okay. Okay. Yeah, which we did, and it was sick. Okay.

Shout out of him. He was one of the first producers that was up that like that. Yeah. That's the type of shit that's like you don't really believe. You're like, why? Yeah. Why are you fucking with me. That's dope.

Thank you. It's like one of a really, really bad bitch is trying to. Exactly. Yeah. Like what I do? But we were also like, we were pretty young back then. We were a little more wild. We partied a little more.

Yeah. Yeah. But now. And I went to school out here in college too. So I already like me on a new delay of land and shit. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think that, no.

In all seriousness, y'all are honorary Angelinos. We welcome and embrace y'all out here. Thank you, man. I think y'all are going to be doing some big things, you feel me? And hopefully this interview helps put some people up that ain't already. Check us out.

Your all are super wrong. Yeah. Thank you, bro. Yeah. Drop the socials and all that. All the obligatories. At Max Gerler, M-X-G-E-R-T-L.

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