No Jumper - Delo Interview: Larry Hoover Being His Godfather, Growing Up In Chicago & Thoughts On Cap Rappers

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

Delo talks about rowing up in Chicago, family dynamic, his kids, and more! 00:00 - Intro 0:42 - Growing up in Chicago around the black stones, father going to jail, being around racketeering, ki**ing 2:04 - Larry Hoover being his Godfather, having 8 kids that keep him motivated 3:45 - Being numb to d*ath, losing his mom 10:47 - Cap rapping, exaggerating prices in lyrics, getting love from his own city being important 14:38 - Detroit taking off in rap, everyone wanting to do drill music, having fun with music, just now taking it serious 16:36 - His OG talking to him about the streets, being able to carry a g*n in Indiana without a permit, being good at shows in Indiana 19:08 - Working with Don Trip, Lil E, the industry being 10% talent 90% business, what kind of deal he would take 26:50 - Being in a black hole, not thinking, answering his phone or taking care of his kids after losing his mom 28:00 - Buying a house with his first bag, giving his baby moms and kids money, buying cars and a boat, filling a void 31:00 - Colabing with Boosie, him being a motivation, how they met, song coming soon called “Demon time” 36:28 - Plans to move to Cali, outgrowing Indianapolis, making money on Tik Tok, figuring out to make money independently 40:46 - Having a label offer him 300k for 4 albums, needing a deal that makes sense, really only needing promotion --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Yeah. And today, got one of my brethren's in the building again, man. You did? I got my Goddello, mate.

Yes, sir. What's going on? Jack, talk to me. Man, cool and cooler, man. Yeah, man, you know, so for the ones that don't know you, because I'm sure there's ones that do, I'm not. I'm going to up like that. Because there's always some people that know us.

You know what I'm saying? Something damn where in the corner somewhere. You know, if you will, give the people a little bit about your background. Man. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Chicago. Okay. Northside, Wilson and McNolia.

Mm. Mm. You know? Yeah. That lake short drive. Man. Come stay down in Chicago a little bit, man. You know, it's definitely a rough city.

Come up out of... Vicious. Yeah. What was your experience like that growing up, man? Man, just staying out the way, man, being around some good OGs that tell you the right thing, even if it's, you know what I'm talking about? Like, just like, it's making sure I'm making all the right decisions. Yeah. All the right to sit, but definitely being around racketeering, killing, just everything, like, like everything. But seeing my father going to jail at an early age, it kind of made me step up and do the right things and stay out the way.

Was you taking care of the household? Definitely taking care of the household. Yeah. I ain't had no choice other than brother, keep going to jail, father gone. That's all I could do was take care of the household. Yeah. How about your siblings, man? Like, how many siblings you got?

I only got one sibling on my mama's side. It's my brother. My daddy had probably like eight, ten kids. Like, shit. I can always be busy, don't they? Big family. Big family. So, how was the upbringing actually in the household with your mom and dad?

You know what was the experience with them? As far as in my kids' stages, it was just all good as far as why I come from, like, my god daddy was Larry Hoover. So like, my real father being ready to say it. Like my god daddy was Larry Hoover. So as in the times I couldn't remember as in me being the kid, it was all nice times and all just like hearing good stories about everything. But seeing that they all went to jail early and when I started growing up, it was like

everything for myself type shit, like just feeding off of what I got, what I can do, and just running from that. Yeah. Yeah, I was curious, man. You'm saying? You having that type of upbringing, how is it with your children? You got any children yourself? I got eight kids.

Eight kids. Man. Level of death. And you still manage to be doing music and everything else. They keep me going. Like, I wouldn't probably be in this drive I'm in if I ain't had no kids. I'd probably be somewhere lazy. What do you really think you'd be?

I'd probably be somewhere on the streets, man. On the streets. It's probably still in Chicago. I probably wouldn't even move from Chicago. Yeah. Did you would have made it out of Chicago? Nah, I knew I wouldn't have made out of Chicago because everybody I know, dead or in jail.

Damn, man. That shit, you know, I think it's fucked up because you hear a lot of these stories and people, you know, a lot of it comes with losing people, death, you know. It's like, man, that ain't even... But I think that fucks everybody up, man. Like, everybody's got, like, I hated losing people. I just lost somebody the other day, man.

And I feel like it constantly changes you. Yeah. Like, does that make sense? Like, I always feel indifferent, some way about myself, like, when I lose somebody, like, there's a gap. Definitely. I'm numb to the point where I don't lost the only person that knew me best. Like, after I lost my mom, it wasn't, like, I don't even do funerals no more. I don't do none of it.

Like, that's over. Like, definitely. Like, death's. It'll put you in a whole different area. That's why I start rapping because of death, like coming out of a black hole. Yeah. So you're saying that the death that was happening around you puts you to wanting to do music today? Yep, yeah, yeah.

I lost my mama. I hooked up with Busy and we did that. I missed you track. I just wanted to take it from there and just keep it going. We're going to talk about that. I got to ask this, man, because, you know, I interview I interview rappers, man. Like I do. Like, I like sitting down with rappers. I like sitting down with entertainers, people who's trying to push the culture.

You know, but I never really ask anybody do they have. Do you have a manager? I have a manager, yes. It's all families, all home base, all insides, and we all independently doing everything ourselves. So it's all family right now. Who manager? I got boss lady. boss lady she's a close family that took me under when my mama passed away and daddy been gone daddy passed away so i just been going with what the person going to tell me was the best

for me and just going from there leads to my next question do you feel do you feel like you've gotten you've gotten put you've gotten taken to the right direction with them do you feel like you know they've really put you in position uh yes yes because they let me do what I want to do yeah and I get that that's a good thing but I'm saying like are they actually doing the job that you need for your career to push you to the next level genuinely can you really say that in your heart yes I can say that yes so you say they're the ones that keep you on tour they'll keep you on they'll keep you doing everything that you need to do there's no slip up none at all and when I'm doing wrong they let me know right I say that to say this I notice with

when you deal with family members, you know, especially when it comes to business, things like that, I don't feel like, I'm not saying everybody, but people don't take it as serious as you need them to,

then you would go to walk to a stranger and, you know, interact with them and you know, that's what they do too, and you can really, nobody wants to cross the boundaries in that. I feel like family members do is what I'm trying to get to. For sure, but this is like,

this is family as far as I'm like, ain't no contract, it's all love. Like, it's all love. We ain't got none. We both got the same goal. We both on the same mission. Right.

Ain't no. We ain't talking about we're talking about we're going to talk when we get to the top. And I feel that. But I'm going to tell you this, man. It's 2022. Contracts is everything at that point. You know what I'm saying? When you're dealing with somebody that you know you got to,

because that can alter a relationship. It can. Forever. If one thing goes awry, you know, I would rather have that with a stranger or somebody I don't got to see every day, you know what I'm saying, than somebody that I do because I really care for my loved one. So I don't know if I could, if I could do that. I feel like, I feel like it's only money records. They got me at their best interest. We're doing the right thing. And they let me be the faced of it. They let me do everything. I own everything.

They just give me the nose and the don'ts and the maybes and go for it. So being a, um, You're based out of Indianapolis today, right? Yeah, so you grew up in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, born in Chicago. I moved to Indianapolis, Indiana, 10th Street, on the east side. It's crazy. To how are, how good do you,

how good are the relationships with you and some of the other local rappers around there? Man, I got good love out there, like some, some of the best rappers, some of the best singers, like, The whole GTE, G-T-E grind time, Coke Nation. It's a lot of them, F-O-TB, like, it's a lot of talent in Indianapolis,

like, people ain't reaching. Yeah. People ain't reading. So if I'm going to be the first person from the city to start reaching for us, and I'm here. Yeah. Seems like, man, it's a lot of, I don't want to, I'm going to say, because this is the first words that come to my mind about it.

Like, I feel like there's a lot of starving artists all over the country. You know what I'm saying? there's a lot of people that make good music might not have the proper backing for it. You know what I'm saying? So I think there's a lot of people right now, a lot of motherfuckers, man, that are great at music that actually can carry a note,

that can actually do what they need to do but just really don't have the funding, man. And there's always that, or scared, or ain't 100% going in, but it's a lot of talent. People don't want to put their money where they mouth is. Were you scared going in? Not saying scared. I was just doing a lot of things.

Like, this is just something I started doing, like I said, just to come on my black hole. But I wasn't talking to nobody. I stopped answering my phone. I stopped going to work. Like, I really, I've really been out the way just working and taking care of these kids my whole life. Businesses. So the rap, the rap stuff and starting to see in the feedback, I started getting just motivated me to keep going because I was always hearing something positive about anytime I dropped.

I think that's what's important, you know, is to get positive feedback. But I think we all know in pretty much anything that you do that's in entertainment, with the good's going to come with, it's going to come bad. You know what I'm saying? People ain't going to always have something good to say, but, I mean, you got to rock through it. Definitely, definitely. You know, it's important to rock through it, man. I see shit all the time about me, other people I know, or just people like just overall,

like just putting their two cents in constantly. You know what I mean? But I'm not going to let that be the determining factor of what I do. Thanks. You know, and I noticed that even with a lot of artists, that's the problem. They let the viewer or the people that the consumer, because when it comes to music, there's consumers. You get to us sometimes. Like, sometimes we take our music seriously.

Like, we probably don't put 13 hours in this song. We're trying to hear nothing negative when they come through. So it just be different from freestyle or something we was really talking about a person that passed away and somebody say something about it. So it hit different at times. So it depends on somebody saying some at the right time or the wrong time. Yeah.

What's the difference to you? What's the difference between real rappers and cap rappers? Right? I mean, that's like, because there are cap rappers. It's definitely. There's a lot of them. You know what I'm saying? So like, and I never really use that terminology

until I start hearing a lot of people saying, like, oh, I don't be mean in half that shit. Man, I think, like, as far as in cap rappers, everything cat where I come from, like, unless you've seen it, somebody's showing it in your face, I don't believe it. So if I'm listening to your rap and I can't see it when I go to your page, I ain't believing it. So I'm going to believe it's a cat. Like, you listen to my music, you go to my gram, everything I'm talking about you're going to see. So that's a difference between me believing something and me seeing something. So everything caps I see it.

Do you feel like you may have started out as a cap rapper? Everybody starts somewhere, Delo. Everybody, everybody start out some motherfucking weird. Straight up. As far as, I don't want to say starting off as a cat rubber because everything I said, I achieved it and I did it, but as far as in, like, lying about a price, you really pay this, what is this?

Or, you know what I'm talking about, like, switching up a wage. Right, right. Yeah, I'm definitely going to have it, but I'll probably add an extra 10, $20,000 on something. You know what I'm going to say? That's the cap. I mean, we did.

Right, right. What's more important to you? And this is a real serious question. What's more important to you? Is it getting love from your own city or getting more love from other cities while you're on the road? Getting love from my own city?

Yeah. Why is it? Because like, I don't really, I don't I never know how to explain it, but as far as I'm like, we're doing that I'm born from Chicago and me being in Indianapolis, and that's why I'm really in my head, like, that's, I'm a Hoosier now, and people probably don't feel like that if, you know what I'm talking about, like, as far as I looking at like, this nigga claims it, there, but like, yeah, but I feel like, them showing me more love, I might be able to go harder, I might be at a go

stronger. It'd probably uplift some things off my back, but definitely that's where that's where I'm at with it. Yeah. I would ask that because I'm like okay well you know I would want that I would think I would want the love from my city first because if I'm not getting

love from my city I'm not probably going to get love nowhere you know what I'm saying like I think it starts really in your city I mean people people do go I'm not going to say that because I know people do go and they weren't really shit in the area and then when they go they go and they blow up you know I think

do you think that's why rappers probably forget their they don't really mention their city when they blow. And it is that. It's not no probably. 300 people in your own seat. The only person that's going to mess with you before the whole world listen to us over there.

You just going to take the people that's been messing with you. It's probably one south side. The west, east, and north ain't even listen to you. So when you go, you're only going to show love to the people who've been showing love to you. Right. So it would be different from, you know, when the whole city behind you're on the radios, you're getting

booked to look, parties, and this, this, and then when you already make it or when you start going mainstream, and that's when they want to mess with you and that's when they, your phone ring and you on it, you know what I'm talking about, but it's definitely that and that's how it be. It's like that, uh, in like big cities.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's hard to, I'm not saying it's super hard, but it's hard to get on in L.A. It's hard to get on in New York. It's hard to, like, just get on. Like, drop a track, this is it. This is a motherfuckering hit right here and everybody's going to bang this shit.

It's support, but, and it don't be that type of support, I feel. You don't. You know what I'm saying? In the rap game today, I'm going to say it, homie. I don't see the real, I don't see the support. I feel like there's a lot more that can be brought to the table. I'm starting to hear the music.

To me, it's starting to get watered down offbeat, off, like just, it's changed and dynamic. Yeah. Definitely, definitely, Detroit took off, though. Detroit took off. Detroit, I ain't never like, we weren't even listening in like that from Chicago. We was on drill, so me hearing that Detroit stuff, it really took. I was like, I ain't never heard nothing like that. I ain't even understand it.

So I'm trying to listen to that now and figure out what I'm going to start doing on some base style and mixed up with what I got to come up with something. Like, but it's definitely, it's definitely something that was nice. How is drill music affected Indianapolis? Not even seeing drill music affecting Indianapolis, but everybody wanted to do drill music now.

They feel like that's going to get you where you need to go closer. Well, that's why I ask, because I'm like, you know, it's different places and different strokes for different folks. Shit hits different in different areas. You know, it might not hit the same. So that's why I'm asking. I'm like, how is drill music affected Indianapolis today in the culture?

Bro, people in Indianapolis, people in Chicago, everybody using drill music and ain't probably shot nothing. So it's just something to do at this point. The right beat. Somebody going to come out of nowhere with some lyrics to go with it. How long do you give yourself to make a couple of meal out the music industry before you just say, fucking. If it don't work, if you don't make it, you're like, fucking.

Man. How long do you give yourself? I ain't even like, right now I'm having fun, so I ain't even gonna give myself no nothing. Like, it's all for fun. Like, I ain't in, I'm just now taking it series. I'm just now turning it up and seeing out what all I got. Yeah. So like, it ain't even no, no talent with me. This is price me. Like, I'm gonna give it all like that. Yeah. How long you've been deep into it? I've been deep into it for like three, four years.

I've been around it for like eight years. Yeah. Like, it took for my OG pass for me to get serious and just figure out, figure out the right way and start coming up with stuff and I'm here. He used to talk to you about you doing this? Uh, no. We used to talk to you about before he passed, the O.G.

The streets. Same motherfucking story, man. That's why I always feel like it's important. And especially with rappers, because rappers got the most influence. You know what I'm saying? It's important to veer these kids in different lights. You know what I'm saying? Like, let them know that, man, you're really not shooting at people like that.

Or you're really not, you know what I'm saying? Not for real. Come out with it, like, just say, hey, it's just music. You know what I'm just good at painting a story. Because that's really what the hell it is. It's painting stories. But these kids pick it up like it's real and they go out and they fucking try that shit. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't really respect that, bro. I think for real, like rappers that's out there that's doing that type of music, hey, man, I listen to it. I fuck with it. But let them know that it's not really that, man.

Because what that shit's doing is, it's influencing these kids to move in a different life. And they definitely take a heed to it. Motherfuckers is getting younger now shooting folks. They're not getting older. Yeah. The kids is getting younger. is going off the music, Delo.

Yeah, no, then they just passed a law where you only ain't no permit to carry a gun and something, especially Indiana. Like, you ain't even got to file no gun permit now. You can walk around with that mother. Like, so he just- Where at? Indiana.

You can just walk around no permit. You can walk around with no permit now. No gun, man. So these little kids is running around like they cap guns on them. Everybody got them now. Like, women, men. When you go and do, when you go and do shows out there.

You be worried about that? Like when you're doing a show in Indy and you like, fuck, somebody might pop off in this motherfucker the night? I got it down here. I'm moving like president down there. Like, ain't nothing moving down there. Like. So you ain't never had no problems at none of the shows

you ever threw back in the spot? Never. Not one. Not a hiccup, not a nigga even wrinkling his nose. Man, we in there. Backdoor action, eating good. backdoor action to the house. Like, no problems, ain't no line, ain't none of that.

Before we dive in with the Boosie, because I want to ask you about that, too, was there any other type of, was there any other artists that you were working with that was mainstream? I work with Don Tripp. I work with Don Tripp from Memphis. Yep, him got a song together.

Yep, Don Tripp. I work with a little E. You probably don't know a little E, but you're going to hear him very soon. I'm like, we definitely, definitely, definitely. It's been, bro, it's been amazing being able to get y'all in here, man, and the people that are up and coming because there's new ones that's coming. And it's just cool to catch y'all before this shit really starts to get on.

Then it's hard for us to catch up with you, motherfuckers. So, you know, it's easier to come and do this and sit here with you, man, you know. But I'm going to ask you another question, man, that I really feel you can give me a good answer to, man. you know you being if you said fuck rap tomorrow okay

you said fuck rap tomorrow I don't want to do rap no more I'm not rapping myself no more would you still stay in the culture and maybe pick up some artists yep would you still like staying and invest yeah

do you feel like you gained enough knowledge at least you know you going through the experience mm-hmm 10% talent. 10% talent. 90% business. Break that down a little bit.

Like, when I get, like, it's like, talent. This is about being, I know a business for it. So now just taking your time, so you're going to show and invest how you want to invest and get there, how you want to get there. I guess that's how it is, right? You know, when I'm even hearing these, and I don't want to call them, but Bobby just hearing some rappers that just don't sound that damn good. For real, bro. And I wonder how they got on and how they got on.

a hell they fucking record, hit the fucking airwaves. And it's because they had the promo, they had the backing. Somebody knew the structure. Somebody knew what they needed to walk through to get the results. I kind of see that now because it really ain't talent. The motherfucker be shit. Puppy doo-doo. His rhymes are trash.

Basuta. And he still gets on the motherfucker and he still get for real, y'all. He still gets on the radio and I'm like, who put this trash on the airwaves? But I see now it's all the business. It's knowing how to walk through to even move a song. I'm going to ask you this. As a rapper, what do you feel is better to move right now? A track, one track, or a fucking mixtape or album?

I go with the one track with a video on the side because screaming whole EP's and whole, like, and if you're serious with it, it's going to be expensive. So just put all that you got into one single at a time, and you go from there. If you see it, if you just dropping music, then you probably don't know the business part of, like, building fan base to put your money into one track and get it as furthest you can as possible. Yeah. Like, the money listeners ain't no plaything.

So you wouldn't know somebody listening, right? Yeah. Doesn't seem like it's, and this is no jab at the radio stations or nothing like that. But it doesn't really seem like it's the radio anymore. It seems like it's how many streams can you get? Yeah. Who then picked you up? Spotify, somebody of that nature.

That's where it seems like the real streams are coming from. That's definitely where is it. I notice when people put it even in their little bios, they don't talk about the radio stations they've been on. They talk about how many streams they've had this many million streams off of this or this many million streams off that. The game to doing music today has definitely fucking changed.

Definitely. Like, you don't even really need the labels. Like, you can make your own money. Like, you just got to get out here. Like, you just got to get out of here. People are lazy, though, Delo. Let's be honest. People lazy, bro.

They are. Like, you're telling the truth. You're really giving some jewels on it. Like, man, you just really got to get up and make the move. You don't really need nobody. But some people do need people because they, some people don't, they need guidance. Some people do need it. Because if that was, I got to say that, because if that was the case, you know,

management and labels and shit like that wouldn't exist. Thanks. You know what I'm saying? If everybody was, it was capable of doing that. But I'm not saying it's not doable. It's definitely doable. How about you? Would you go to a big label if somebody came to you right now?

Put the check on the table and you just signed away on the dotted line? It depends. I'm entertaining offers. What would that depend to? Because I'm really looking for a distra. I've been doing that thing this long. It's really not too many things that you can offer me. I got the car.

I got the house. I just need somebody to turn me up. What would be the deal breakers for you if somebody came and offered you as an artist? Multi-million dollar checks sitting there on the table or just even a meal ticket. Right now, like, hey, man, we got a meal ticket for you just to do an EP or some shit. But what would be a deal breaker in that? Because it's always some foreign language in that shit. Man, it is definitely.

It's always some foreign language in that shit. I wouldn't even know. I ain't never seen anything like it before, but I know that I just would like a dish show, but I will take a meal for EP. Like, who wouldn't take that? Yeah. But like my deputy is looking for this. What if it comes with some stipulations?

I might go, but I'd be listening to Dolphin Nifty too much for me to even, you know what I'm talking about? But Delo, what if it came with stipulations? I might go. What if you, you still going to take it? I'm saying if I'm doing. What if it's something you're not comfortable with? I ain't going if I ain't comfortable. I can't take care of these kids.

I mean, well, you are comfortable with taking a million dollars from him. So I know what I can do with a million dollars. I ain't about the first deal. True. True. But you know what I, what I did. I've seen in the music business, people get their hands, right, on all this money. They get their hands on all this money and they've got to go on tour.

So, you know, there's clothes, there's things like that that you got to pay for, your little accessories, your rooms, your bottles, the food you want to eat, tricking your little $30, $40 off with them little sack chasers, you know, doing all the shit that you're doing, right? And then at the end of the trip, then that label hit you with a fat-ass bill. See, people feel it. realize that part. They always look at the fucking check and say, yeah, I'm going to

take the check, but you realize that stuff you're supposed to take for investments, really, like to even put out videos, to even put out shit like that. You're supposed to, that's what that money's for, but everybody takes the money and they get on some bullshit. Yep. Yep,

yep. Definitely. Like me, you know what I'm saying? It's going to be different with me, though. Tell me how. How is it going to be different with you, Delo, than it is going to be with any other rapper, man. Like, where do you change the game? I'm changing the game off the point where

I got everything that they're going to try to give you. Like the old days, when they had the basketball player, we're going to give you the house and the car and the clothes. Like, when you come to me, it can't be nothing but a sack because I'm already having everything that you're going to try to offer me as far as the house, the car, the clothes, the land. Like I got home cares, daycares. So it kind of expand me.

Like, I'm having fun. Like, this is for happiness. Like, I'm happy now. I'm my OG. You know what I'm talking about? Like, I ain't coming to this on a mission. I need a money. Woo.

I came with like, now I'm happy because I came out of black hole from my mama passed away. So I'm really just living. Like, you know what I'm talking about? So it's different. The black hole that you keep bringing up. That black hole, how was that for real? How was that experience, man? You being in that.

Like at that time, like, what were you experiencing? Were you even think about music at the time? No, I didn't. I wouldn't know no music, but I wasn't thinking at all. Like, I wouldn't answering my phone. I wasn't taking care of my kids. Like, I'm talking about like that. Like, I thought it was old.

I thought it was over. Like, I was torn. Like, I ain't never, like, I don't lost niggas. I don't lost cousins. Yeah. Like, I ain't never lost no mom. And this is the only person that knows me best. So I was just done.

I didn't think it was on coming back. Like, I had a good job. I wouldn't go on to work. Like, so for me to get in that studio and start talking again and coming out, like that's what I mean, but I came up at Black Hole. So right now, it's for happiness.

Like, this screaming money and that ass cap and that media base check, like, that's just extra. Like, damn, we're really getting paid off this? Like, on some easy NWA, like, when I watch them moves like, so it's serious. Like, we ain't gotta be no rapper, just jump in and it happened. So like, that's one of them.

Like, I'm really living a dream. dream right now. Like, I'm happy to be up and be had to move and talk. Can I ask, can ask yourself, but what did you do with your first bag as you ever got? It can be from your music or can just be an overall life. Like, what did you do with your first bag? My first bag. Where did it go? I bought a house. All my baby mama's some money. All my kids some money. I just bought cars, Bo.

Like, I was just doing everything just to make me happy. Like, and everybody around kids. You were trying to, it seemed like you was trying to fill a void, like, fill a gap. Not saying a gap, but there's, and it is a gap because I feel like, like, sometimes you try your stuff. Well, I buy stuff just to be happy and then sell it in two weeks because I was only happy for two weeks. So, like, it's definitely one of those. Impulsive buying. Yeah.

Yeah. You were searching for happy. I'm glad that you found it within music and I'm glad that like we could sit here today and even talk about that man because I like hearing these type of stories and I hope that the viewers do too man because it's it's this is to build motivation. You know this is to build you know for you to go in stride in life. You know what I mean? Like people got to understand man. It's not always about the the glitz and the glamour. Yes sir. The good man. People don't see past that shit. They don't know what it took to really. build that person. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Definitely. What even made you, like, for real, bro?

Like, what even made you pick up right? Like, why? Like, you just say, fucking, I'm good at it. Like, did you? Not as the people, I've been around it for a long time. So it was like, I don't been around it. I done been to studios, been around it,

and just tried it one day. And then, like I said, went to that, like, that I looked on Instagram one day, seeing boo that's lost somebody winning his DM told him I just lost my mama told me to pull up and I pulled it up

and we did the song so it was like it was God's friend though like because I was nothing and it's like I'm taking serious I'm around it why you say that man like just because

I don't like that no first somebody I doesn't think a couple other people who spoke like that to me I'm like no man that's not the way it is don't ever say you not nothing

because you always something, man. You see any, I don't give a fuck of his 1% and two pennies that you got rubbing together. I think of you something. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's always something you can be. Something is something you can build from. You know what I'm saying? I ever say that about yourself, church. I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? Kick that, kick that vernacular to the curve. You know what I'm saying? I can't, never could. For sure. Nothing will always be nothing. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. Church is important, man.

So let's go ahead. That leads to my next one, man. Let's get off the touchy shit. You know what I'm saying? I see that you did a track with, you did a project, a project track with Boosie and I believe my man D3. Yeah, yeah, D3.

That's my man. That's like my son right there. That's my right hand, right? That's my secret weapon. Yeah. What was that like, man? Man. Tell us about Boosy a little bit.

What was the experience like with him? Unk crazy. Unc real. Unk. Lick. Unk motivation. I'll keep you. Show me your pussy.

I'll give you $1,000. Show me your pussy. They took his Instagram from here in church for a little minute. I remember that shit. They keep taking this shit. They keep taking real. Show me your pussy. How I'll give you $1,000.

Nah, for real. It's motivation, but every time I link up with them is motivation. Yeah. I'm going out there after this. Yeah. Yeah, like, he's definitely motivation. He definitely let you keep you going to, don't stop, never give up anything can happen. Anything can happen.

Right. Like, I've been trying to show my way now just for him to see it and see I'm trying to do my own. Like, you know what I'm talking about, let him see. Like, I can do my own. I don't need this or I can show you that, like, you feel me? How did you meet Boosey? I like getting on this page one day and seeing that he doesn't lost somebody, but then he got a, it's a person, he got somebody named Playboy that make his beats from Indianapolis.

I know him. So he put it together through that, told him to talk to him, trying to put something else on this. I miss you track, dealing with the music, and he put it together for us. I listened to the track. It was nice. Like, I appreciate it. It was really nice, man.

I hope people, you know, that's listed right now, man. Go check out that joint right now. L.D3, Boosie, I miss you and join out right now on YouTube. You need to go check it out, man. I like that thing, for real. That motherfucker right there is slapping. You plan on doing any more projects with them in the future? Yeah, yeah, we're going to drop some now.

Like, I got a couple of things. Can we get a little preview of what they may be called? Come on, man. You got to drop some sauce here, man. You can't just, I'm not going to let you walk out the dough like that. You got to drop some sauce. Listen, listen, coming soon. Yeah.

Yeah, it's coming soon. It's $3.92. It's called Demon Time. Demon time? Yeah. Why? Not saying that because I'm just letting... Not saying that. Why? I'm just... Why demons are like... I'm letting out of everything I've been holding in. Getting Donnie looked over like, what the... Demon time, brother.

Like, I'm letting out of everything I've been holding in, you know? Hey, man. What, the demons? Have you been fighting demons, church? Nah, I ain't fight demons. It's so. long. It's something been a minute since then. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know it came alive. Was it something maybe, was it drug fueled or was it

just something you had going on? No drugs. It was minstasy as in life. Yeah. Not understanding life. And now I'm starting to understand it because I'm reading more and I'm going to church so stuff starting to make sense to me and I'm understanding life. How has that been?

Like, you know, I don't know. I don't hear a lot of rappers come in, you know, and talk about going to church you know you're actually saying that even in their interview saying hey man

you know I'm just rapping I'm going to church you know that kind of how is that been for real I wouldn't even be here everyone for him

so I try like I don't go every Sunday or anytime I can go anytime I go I go at least a couple Sundays a month I'm gonna go

just because like I overcame a lot and I feel like I wouldn't even be here everyone for him so I got at least go here, we used to go pay my way sometimes.

What turns you, what turns you back to church? Not understanding death. I didn't know what death was as far as when it hit so close. I had nowhere. So I wanted to figure out what thought I was on, understand why do we die? Like, why we just can't live, while we live in a die type.

So I thought I was going to get that by going and talking to him and pulling them to the side. It was never an answer or real answer. We were just to run around, run around. So just there, listening to the word, healing me. Yeah. Did you genuinely feel healed? Yes.

When you walked away from- Because they didn't lie to me. They told me exactly what it was. And now I understand. See, I feel like, I love that. Because it's like, I feel like people should want that no matter what, was the key word of what you just said, telling you what you needed to hear,

not what you wanted to hear. We always run through this world where people always tell each other what we tell each other what we want to hear. Oh, you ask me, Donnie, hey, you like this hat, sharp? Oh, I like you, well, because I ain't trying to hurt your feelings.

That shit's fucking ugly. It's fucking ugly. Take that shit off. You know what I'm saying? People need to hear. Don't tell them what they just want to hear. I'm going to tell you what you need to hear. You might have thought it

look good today but that shit looks hideous and Donnie that ain't me just caping on your hat neither I think that shit does really look cool a little bit talk to me love one uh goals for the next five years

where can we see you where can we see Delo and Callie oh change it up Change your residence. Yeah.

In Cali. Yeah. Do you think you could two step down here in the music game with him? I'm ready. You sure? I'm already been looking for houses. I'm going to love to interview you in about the next five years because, boy, if your ass don't make it, I want to see too.

I'm going to let a few years go by. And we're going to want to really see because you came in with some confidence about that. For real, it's just a tough cookie around here, man. I'm going to be closer than you think. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to be closer than you think. I'm already like. Do you feel like you've outgrown Indianapolis?

You feel like you've gotten everything you was going to get there? Yes, definitely. Yeah. Definitely, most definitely. Time to close the chapter, not the book. Close. Yeah, Sir C's. Please tell the people where they can find you and find your music.

Anything new coming out, man. You know, uh... Yes, sir. You can find my music on all platforms. I'm grind time. Dello everywhere. Instagram, Facebook,

Twitter, TikTok. I'd be doing TikTok. What'd you'd be cutting over there on TikTok? Why ain't going to go down on the top? I told you I got eight kids.

Hey, let me ask you, you got a TikTok, you make money over there? Yeah. Biggest check you made in TikTok. Man, that ain't really nothing like it.

I don't understand what a biggest check. I don't cash out with me a couple $2,500, $4,500. I ain't really taking TikTok a series. Still some cool money.

And did not take it serious. Yeah, do not take it serious. If I'm taking serious, it'll be turned up, but I'm doing too much. Like, I got to sit down and put everything together, then we're going to run it up. We definitely going to run it out. I'm just doing too much right now.

Most you've ever spent on the project? 70. 70. That I miss you was 70. I had to get him out. All-Star weekend. I need him in the right clothes, looking for the church.

Like, everything. same cost, like, death, reverse, video, clothes, delivering cars from one state to the next state, bringing them back. Like, so it was real, like, and I didn't know it, but then that's when I knew I had to take it serious because, like, this ain't no cheap profession. Yeah. Like, you gotta get it together. Yeah, when I started seeing them as cap chaps, I knew this is what I wanted to do.

Like, okay, sweet. Like, once I hit a million in the videos, I've seen features and I've seen people trying to book me for a thousand, and I'm like, okay, this is what I can do. Yeah. I'm a boss on myself, so I'm working towards myself, and it feels good when somebody getting your DM, like, what you want for a future, what you want for a show, or woo-woo's,

or like, it makes me happy. That's what I'm on. Man, you know, other some streetcast, whatever, coming from what we come from, never seen nothing like that. That shit is, it really is life-changing. And I think anybody who's ever had to take that transition

like me and yourself can understand that feeling. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. like how you over here like you're proud of that you're like man man now i did worse yeah and more for less you know what i'm saying so that so to be basically doing literally nothing you're saying but just and being you getting paid to come and do your thing man and people who want your presence is it is a euphoric feeling yeah you know what i'm saying hello i appreciate you for coming and i'll tell you this church you got a couple years don't you you already put your foot in your

mouth. Oh, yeah. Here. Here. I'm coming here. All right. Yeah, bro. I'm definitely going follow up with your ass. I don't pass up a couple boys. Like, they didn't offer me something that I already had so, but like, I'm not just that. That's why I'm pushing harder. I'm going to push harder. When I seen that came, I'm like, okay, that's not enough. I like that. Like I, like how you said, like, I'm not taking something I already had. Can't. Right. You know what I'm saying? It don't make sense. It don't. It doesn't add up. It don't. It don't. No matter what it is. I understand.

No such thing as a bad opportunity. But sometimes you just got to stay down so you come up, bro. Yeah. What's the most you ever had a label come off for you? 300. 300. I just spend $200 and something on a row. So I can't really take $300 when I just spend $200 on a car.

Like, I got to take some. I'm going to have to buy me a house in Cali. You feel what I mean? They ain't coming. Same fucking look. They ain't coming in cheap, man. Like, so, like, you're going to have to really. like get me together and I'm gonna show out.

Yeah. What did they want from you for that 300? Like what were they asking for? Like the album wise, all the type of shit? Um, they said four albums. Like, and then not only that, that's when I was trying to figure out, like, is this $300, like, all for me? I'm gonna have to pay this back and woo, when he's like, yeah, you have to pay this back.

All right, or that double type of deal I want because I really just want somebody to turn me up, like, I think I can get to where I'm going with some promotion or a place. platform. You don't even need no money because whatever the checklist is, I'm going to make sure I get it. I bring it myself. Just give me a platform or give me somewhere where I can let somebody hear me out other than what I'm doing. It's gone. And before you know it, the right ear hear me, I ain't going to need nobody. Like, it's going to be one and one. Like, what was he at? Why we ain't? And I've been there the whole time. Like, pay, page, sponsor, Google ads. I'm there. So it just, hey, God got me. I think that's why people don't really understand how independent artists like yourself get up on these platforms and get up like y'all go and y'all pay for promo like you take say for instance go to no jumper pay the money that is get my promo up get my stuff up you know what I'm saying not everybody's digging in their pockets but everybody's screaming for a chance everybody's screaming for chance but nobody's ever really reaching and investing into themselves yeah

It really does take investments. It does. You got to reach, man. I mean, this is, this isn't the fucking, this isn't 87, 86 where Michael Jackson and was born, they finding boys on the street corners. You got to really have some money to really come and play in the music game. You can't expect for somebody to want to put some money to you if they ain't put no money to yourself. Exactly.

You can't sit there, church. How can I, I say this, right? Let's say, Delo, I'm your, I want to, you know what I'm saying, you want me to manage you. you want me to manage you right I come and I look at you I'm like you like yeah man put I want I need 500 for this project you know what I'm saying he fine just to get the project moving okay I'm gonna start looking at the clothes

start looking at your jewelry game start looking at the cars that you're driving I'm gonna start looking at some the other projects that you've invested into you know what I'm saying I'm gonna see if you add up to that 500 you know what I'm saying I said this shit before bro to even catch look it ain't a It ain't looked like a million to catch a million.

You got to look like a million to even catch 50 bands, $50. You know what I'm saying? The way that it outweighs is crazy. It's crucial. No, for real. You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah, nigga, two years.

You got two years, sir. Not two years and I need you, for real. I want to hear what your stay is and how it is transitioning from being an Indianapolis rapper coming down to California and trying to do a takeover. Indianapolis Prince. Love Prince I love Prince They turn that nigga house

To a tour house Man, it's getting toured now I'm real Man I'm gonna need you back Church for real We gonna do something Just because of what you said I know I always say that man

But trust me Everybody I bring on this motherfucker Can always come back Man the door's always open Yeah, sir It's gonna be different When I come back You gonna know it's I might not sign the deal

But I got that dish drop I was telling you about Yeah You definitely got your bag right You're like, you're definitely taking care of business, man. So, you know, there ain't no arguments from my side, church. There ain't nothing but love and respect, man. Peace and harmony.

Yes, sir. All right, man, we're about to get rid of the time to hell on up out of here, man. You're going to keep it moving. Because me and you can shop it all day, nigga. I got, I got more for you, man. Yes, sir. But we are out of time. Hey, man, make sure you go.

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