No Jumper - Destiny, Dick Masterson & Vito on Scott Adams, Hogwarts Legacy, Andrew Tate & More

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

Adam is back with another "round table" debate with Destiny and a couple friends, to talk about the latest headlines, current events, and much more! ----- 00:00 Intro 2:00 Destiny explains why he treats women poorly and Adam asks Dick if he feels like he's just a content source for Destiny 5:40 Dick asks Adam if he's ever injected saline into his sc**tum 9:00 Destiny says that he's never seen someone unite more peple than Trump 9:50 Dick gives his take on Biden winning the presidential election 11:30 Adam asks Dick if he thinks that Trump would be handling the Ukraine situation better than Biden 15:10 Destiny says that Russia is the one driving towards World War 3 18:00 Dick and Vito talk about going to the Dave Chappelle Show, getting backlash from the trans community for the signs that they brought 19:40 Destiny speaks on being able to say almost anything on the internet 10 years ago 20:40 The panel give their take on long C***d and va**ine side-effects 21:40 The panel discusses Nick Fuentes getting unsuspended for a day and then getting suspended immediately after 23:00 Destiny gives his take on the Harry Potter video game boycott and the panel discusses what Elon Musk has done with Twitter 31:30 Adam asks Destiny if he can sit down and enjoy watching a Dave Chappelle standup 33:10 Dick breaks down getting beat up at the Dave Chappelle Show and being accused of str**gling people at the protests 40:00 Adam on talking with the former President of UFC about Andrew Tate 41:00 Dick breaks down his appearance on the Dr. Phil Show 46:00 Dick on the aftermath of his Dr. Phil Show appearance 47:30 Dick talks being "de-banked", creating a Patreon alternative and feeling like nobody should be involved in the relationship between a fan supporting a creator 50:00 The panel discusses where cancel culture is headed and the affect it may have on people's everyday life 52:00 The panel discusses the rules and regulations set by the payment processors 57:00 Dick talks being banned from Twitter for telling someone to "eat a cinder block" and Elon Musk lifting the ban 1:01:00 Destiny talks beating ___ charges and speaks on if Mr. Girl should be de-platformed 1:03:00 The panel gives their take on Rumble, the current culture of shitting on new platforms, and if Rumble is a competition to Youtube 1:04:40 Adam says that the Metaverse is the stupidest thing Facebook has ever invested in and Destiny disagrees, considering having stocks in Facebook 1:06:00 The panel discusses what cornstars used to get paid in the VHS era 1:08:00 The panel gives their take on VR corn 1:12:35 Dick speaks on his experiences at a club and being interrupted in the middle of his lap dances with the bill 1:17:00 Destiny and Dick break down some of the problems that exist on right and left wings and "reverse racism" 1:21:00 The panel gives their stance on Scott Adams calling all Black people a h*te group 1:25:00 Destiny talks being accused of being anti***** for making jokes on his stream 1:26:50 Adam asks Destiny how he feels about being grilled for using the term "r*****d" 1:29:00 Destiny explains why "African-American" is a good term 1:30:30 Destiny says that people were drawn to Trump because he's funny 1:32:00 The panel discusses Adam having to call himself a "cornstar" on Tik Tok 1:34:20 Adam asks what the difference between J.K. Rowling and Scott Adams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No John Verk coolest podcast in the world. I'm back with Destiny, the blue-haired liberal, Dick Masterson, Vito. And this guy. Vito. Vito. Right. Yeah. And our quiet, our quiet pixie-esque female compatriot is here.

The mic's name close to her face. I don't know what the odds are of her speaking, but she already got her TikTok content on the last episode, so it should be all right. All right. All right. So, okay, this is my first question is what's the lineage of your relationship with both Dick and Vito? Because I've seen you guys do a podcast together back in the day, but I'm curious how you guys know each other.

This should be fine. Are we doing a debate today? The email said debate. I got a... What are we debating? I just show up to the episodes, you know? Yeah, he never has any idea. I look at the sub count of the channel and I say, yes, if it's over a million or no if it's under.

I had a panic attack. I said, oh, God, not another debate with destiny. I'm not prepared for this. I need to start doing Adderall yesterday. What did you guys previously debate? I think we've argued about Trump. We've argued about... I think I was defending Mr. Medeker's honor

the first time we spoke. Who's that? A guy who retired recently. Dying. It was about Trump and racism. It was a wild time. So you're a big Trump guy? I was.

I'm not so... So he was like a necessary foil for you to kind of shut down at a certain point since you're so into like... I'd say it was an inspiring figure for Dick. Do you feel like your destiny's friend or are you someone that destiny is mining for content? Hold on.

Hold on. Dick hated Destiny. You literally like called him out and you're like, this guy is a slime ball and he debates all slimy and sh-y and then you guys- I did say all those things. Yeah, like an hour and a half. And now you guys. I think I watched his Dr. Phil video and I was like, this guy hates women and these jokes aren't funny because these are offensive to women.

Yeah. And then we had it back and back. And then you guys go- also. I think we both had each other's number right away. This is you're both kind of like, no, we've always been like kind of cool and like, you know, next. No, you can hate it him and he fucking hated you. There's a certain type of personality, okay? So I have a very Hispanic background, so I'm sure you can tell. And in my household, okay, you can scream at each other, call each other fiendiots and everything's cool afterwards because this is how you do it.

I think dig is kind of like that. I'm definitely like that. So I can fight with somebody a lot, but as long as they're chill afterwards, I don't like, I don't give a, I was just having that conversation with my girl about the fact that I I heard, because she always kind of gets on my case about being too aggressive and just being too confrontational. And I'm watching you tell your girl to shut the fuck up like five times in the course of a 30-minute clip. And I'm just, I told my girl, I'm like, look, I'm not the only person who's this aggressive because I know I could never talk to you like that. And look at this meek little.

And he's out here just using obscenities. Is that the male feminist in you coming out? Did that really happen? What? Everything that you just described? Well, except for the meek part. He doesn't self-identify as meek. See, we were rubbed up on each other then, I guess.

Well, I always treat women poorly because it's the nagging thing, you know, it keeps him. You know, like, if he's just mean to me, but he's just nice to me, the back and forth really f***ed. Aren't you married? Yeah, I've got her for like four years so far. The negging continues, huh? Yeah, exactly, yeah. Well, I had no idea. So you guys feel like you're, do you feel like his friend or are you like a content source for Destiny?

I'm definitely not a content source for you. you're too big for that. We're, like, friendly. I think we made good content together. He needs four. There was a, there was a, we did our fight on the internet in about 50 years past, where neither us had sent anything to each other. And then somehow, a recruiter for another podcast called Pankillar already, PKK,

got both of us on an episode. I think that I'm on their Giz supplement. Oh, nice, true. Oh, yeah, because they promote the same one, locked and loaded. I don't know. We were just talking about that how I want to start Gizzing on a scale and like measuring it. Yeah. I've always wanted to check it out every time.

they promoted. Well, shut out up to more. Does it make you come more? It's supposed to. Yeah. Does it increase the amount

your shooting distance? That's not promised. I think it's mostly just volume. Hold on. If you're coming more, it must increase the distance. It's got to go somewhere, right?

No. Can you imagine if you've got a huge load and it's just like like a water faucet? Do you have to imagine that? You know that I am obsessed with the question of shooters versus dribblers

because there are some men who cannot shoot calm. It always, dribbles. And they have... It's a mental technique thing. You think you have to focus on shooting? There's a lot going on with everything to make it.

Because you can have the same load could be a shooter or a dribbler depending on how you're handling yourself. Yeah, like dragonballing it when you're waiting to like push that first... Yeah, yeah. You're like... This is why we're good friends. Exactly. If you jerk your way through the whole orgasm, it's just going to come... But when you get at the end, you have to like...

It's like a snake tamer. You do have to finesse. Yeah, very, very, very carefully. I hear you. Sure. Do you kind of like give it a pinch at some point so that you can then deliver the full power of the load all at once? I've tried that now. Well, you got to super soaker it. You got to build up the pressure and then release. I've tried a variety of different like dick pinching techniques as well because I'll be doing porn and I have to like try to like cool my fucking erection down at some point because I feel like I'm about to come. And I've tried like a bunch of different like ways of squeezing it to get it to like deflate a bit.

And I don't know that any of them really seem to work. Yeah. If anything, I think it probably keeps it harder. I've heard flexing your quads. I don't know if that's true. It's supposed to make your boner go away, but I've never been like in a dire situation. Anything you could do to draw blood to other parts of your body would kind of make sense. Maybe just flex.

Like hit a front double bicep in the corner by yourself. Have you ever injected saline into your ball sack? No. I have. Into your ball sack? Yeah, your scrotum. Just to make your scrotum bigger? Dude.

Yeah. You have like a two-liter reservoir. stretch and your scrotum that you can hang up an IV bag and just chill out for an hour and your ball sack. Explain that you did this as a stunt, not like recreational. Now, the first time I did it was as a stunt, but then every other time, it's awesome. Really? Highly recommend.

It wasn't awesome when you did it. In that old grandpa movie when he's doing the prank and jackassers got the ball sack hanging down? Yeah. You could do that naturally. Yes. Well, because there's that furry kid who came in and he like does it all the time, right? Yeah.

Then... Wait, what is... Where is the awesome part? Are you getting to that? You have huge bowl. Huge balls. You have no control over it. Everyone's offended by it because you're walking around with this giant bloated ball sack.

It's like, well, you know, this is just my body. Were you on the same page as me when I noticed Zerka's huge dick through his pants in the middle of the last episode? And then I wanted to look and I'm like, this would probably be the gay shit unironically. I've ever done it in my life. You've got to look. I've never seen such a dick print, Zerka, in the entirety of my history doing this. His ex did a half. I hit piece

talking shit about his dick I absolutely will be leaving that in and I absolutely also think that he should be wearing in the porn industry or start wearing underwear because I'm assuming he's freeballing it with that outline he might be

you got a dick hit piece not like she dissed his cock Oh that was What um True that's fucked up Yeah Where does the sailing go Oh, you absorb it.

So it's also great for hangovers. Like if you have like a built-in reservoir like a camel. Doctors hate him. This crazy. Hangover cure. So if you have a night out drinking and you don't want to fucking drink water between shots or whatever, just fill your ball sack up on the way. A needle in your balls.

Do it on Friday night. You a big drinker? Uh-huh, yeah. How's that going? Bad. Really? It's getting harder every year, but I'm committed to the alcohol. Dude, you need a few good drunks on the crew, don't you think?

Like, there's just so much content to be had once you have somebody getting drunk. I'm not willing to do it at this point. But if you have someone get drunk on camera, if you get drunk on stream, it's going to be fucking entertaining, right? Sure. Void of anything else. It's going to be good. The show, yeah.

Well, but do you, do alcoholics get drunk? Because I feel like when alcoholics drink, they just get a little bit more mad, and that's it. That's a hard question to answer. We do. I think we still do get drunk. Definitely mad. Do you get high?

Yeah, but not how I like the way that you were when I was breathing hits in your face during the debate with the Christians. I'll probably never get to quite that level. Interesting. So we got parent trapped by PCA. That's what brought us back together, painkiller already. They brought us on secretly. Yeah. It was fun.

And then I don't know. And you guys were willing to get past it? Well, there's nothing to get past. We say dumb shit is whatever. Where are you out with your Trump fandom at this point? Oh, man. He abandoned a lot of his guys on J6. I don't know if he was meaning to accidentally, illegally try to take over the government.

It's kind of hard to tell what's intentional at this point. Yeah, but he did accidentally, I think, illegally try to take over the government, and he didn't realize that until it was too late. I don't think a lot of the guys in jail. Like, I don't think any of them should be in jail. And I don't think anyone in America thinks they should be in jail. I do. Even the hat guy, the lady with the. podium that or that guy you think that's actually the lady with the podium yeah okay well that's a podium

how about the one got one guy the ones who were like taking swings at cops and like breaking like yeah you get a couple of years that so i mean that's an american tradition i will say i trump united people in so many different ways i never thought i would see conservatives cheering for cops to get killed in protests so quickly off the back of BLM i was like yeah we're interesting i've been way ahead of the curve on that one glad to see you guys over here but okay you acknowledging that Trump might have been the wrong during January 6th, is that having like the effect that it had on Fox News when they basically started acknowledging that Trump had lost and it was basically like destroying their ratings? I don't know. I might have to parse that question. You're asking, did he suffer like

repercussions by not? We're on YouTube, right? I don't know how much I can say on that. Biden won. Biden won. Right. Whatever the process is, he won it. Whether he cheated better than Trump? Yeah, or Trump was just sleeping at the wheel and thought maybe he could appeal to the Supreme Court or a Republican Party that has hated him since day one. He made a lot of, he made a lot of errors. He made a lot of bad decisions. I still love the guy. I think he still changed the, I think he still unveiled a lot of what the government is to a lot of people and that I'm grateful for that. And I think we should all be grateful for that. He's still probably the funniest insult comic whoever lived. And that is more important to me than anything.

else. It is weird how like a little bit of hindsight, even for somebody like me, it was a big Trump hater. It's like, like when his Twitter came back and all of a sudden, everybody starts retweeting some of the shit that he said back in the day that people kind of forgot about, it was just like, you know, we really took this guy for granted. This was fucking

hilarious. Yeah. But it seemed kind of serious at the time. I don't remember thinking it was that funny. Well, because you don't know what the stakes are when you're in it. Right? We all have fucking hilarious stories, I imagine, from dumb shit we've done. Where your life was in danger. Yeah, and survive.

And it's really funny to talk about it later, but at the time, you're like, I don't know if I can survive this or not. And I think we were all kind of like looking to the West for those North Korean missiles to be come flying in or whatever the fuck Trump was going to do. So it wasn't, yeah, it was a little harder to laugh at the time, I think. And now we're worried about World War, now that he's gone, we're worried about World War III and talking about sending American sons and daughters over to die for God knows what reason. Right? Like, now we're back to reality. Well, there was a deep fake clip, okay? Would you like to, like, do you think that Trump would be doing a better job?

job handling Ukraine right now? I find better. Yeah. More comical? Funnier? A funnier war. Yeah, I think that he doesn't have his

family over there to enrich with a bunch of corrupt bureaucrats and politicians. So yeah. Trump benefits from stealing shit for his American friends. All these guys, I think we're running the country now, benefit by

siphoning money off into one of the most corrupt governments in the world. I don't know. I know you, are you a Biden fan? I'm a big Biden fan. I don't know. I think we want to go to the Ukraine. Bigger than Richard Spencer.

Probably. We got Richard Spencer tomorrow. Oh, do you? Literally, yeah. Oh, is that in person? That's real. Oh, God. I didn't even know.

I thought you were fucking with me. Are you offended by what's going on in Ukraine from that, from the level of corruption? I'm a big supporter. I'm a supporter of Ukraine shit. I love it. Absolutely. I can't tell if you're joking. I'm serious.

I just don't know how serious you want to get into the conversation. Okay. I will say, though, like people talking. about Hunter Biden for whatever the fuck crackhead foot jobs bullshit went on on his fucking laptop that seemed to turn a blind out of like fucking Jared Kushner and Shillie got pretty fucking funny to me.

I don't know. So what's your position? Mostly that we should be staying out of it with Ukraine because of the risk of World War III or because it's costing us billions of dollars? Or what's your main stance? Yeah, you could start there. I don't think we should have any money

or any guys over there. I think the territories that seceded from Ukraine deserve to be independent and that they've been getting abused by whatever regime has been installed or voted in there for decades. But if they want to fight, why shouldn't they be able to fight to defend their land? Ukraine? Yeah. Yeah, go nuts. Fight. Go fight Russia. Let us know how it works out. Leave us out of it. I mean, they're hanging in there, right? They're doing pretty good. Got a good year under their belt. I don't know. I don't know if they are

hanging in there. What did you see the NATO post that they're fighting like Voldemort and Darth Vader and this is the death star?

Like I don't know. That sounds a little this sounds a little phony to me. I think they're kind of getting fed. I think they might be getting fed into a meat grinder

over there and we're just not seeing it. But it's hard to tell the numbers because I tried to look up the numbers of like how many dead and the,

it's just like depending on who you go to it's like, oh, there's like 10 billion Russians dead and only 10 Ukrainians. Then you go to a different

side. It's like, we've killed a billion Ukrainians and not a single Russian soldier has died. And I'm like, I don't know how this war is going. It's very propagandized. Well, let's ask our war correspond. It's always hard to get exact numbers I think until after, but I think Ukraine is obviously doing pretty well, considering Russia was

They're doing much better than anticipated. Plan to win the war in two fucking weeks, I think was the original assumption. I think there's been a lot of embarrassing capabilities or lack thereof demonstrated by the Russian military. I think it's kind of funny, but did you ever see the Chernobyl show? Salarious.

There's like this idea that everybody's kind of sucking each other off and nobody's really paying attention to what's going on, which is kind of like, to be fair, it's like the capitalist straw man version of like a communist regime or like, oh, they must all care about what each other thinks and they're lying about the numbers. But it seems like, unironically, it probably was happening in Russia,

where unit readiness wasn't being reported correctly, the maintenance of the vehicles wasn't being reported correctly, and nobody's really keeping too close an eye on it. And then when it comes time to go to war, they're completely ill-equipped compared to where people thought they would be. So what do you say to people who say that we're basically coming too close to World War III with our stance? I mean, we might go close to World War III, but I mean, it's Russia that's driving it. The reality is you can't just let somebody take over. Like, imagine if somebody comes in your house with a gun and they're like, I'm going to steal all of your shit.

And if you don't let me steal your shit, I might shoot you. I mean, you're probably going to shoot back. You're not just going to let them keep doing. And then what are you going to let them do it every single week every month? That's called taxes. They do it constantly. That's called properties. tax. I don't want to pay any of it. But is there no war that we

should not get involved in? Like, clearly Biden's being very tactful with how he approaches this war, right? I mean, obviously there should be somewhat, but it's fucking Europe. Right. So an important continent, okay? We're not talking Africa or South America. We're talking about the one we actually learn about in school, okay? It's Europe. We've got to care about Europe, you know?

Since 91, Ukraine has existed as a country with the Donbuss and with Crimea. I mean, it's part of the country. It's kind of weird for somebody to just walk in and say, I'm taking your shit. And for the rest of the world, Like, okay, I guess. Is there a final money amount that you'd put on it? Like, if you had to prices write it and say like, well, we're not going to pay more than, I don't know.

Excuse me. I'm an American. I'm an American. Freedom is priceless to me. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what kind of blood is pumping through your veins, but it's a good Mexican. That's my Mexican side.

I feel like we just have to do whatever we can against Russia because we don't have a better super villain to spend our money on. Like, if we're going to spend money on anything, it should just be attacking our soul enemy. Right. Which is Russia or? Russia, yeah. Oh. I don't know. I'm about Satan.

He's coming back. He's a pretty bad guy, right? We should just kind of like turn them into Satan, right? Like, we just kind of pretend that they are Satan, like metaphorically. I mean, they could also just not, you know, they could just not invade Crimea and steal shit from Ukraine. They're probably thinking about. I was going to say, I don't think we needed Russia to be our enemy. We were pretty cool with them.

We're like, yeah, stop fucking around. Stop, you know, fucking in our elections and whatever else. But, you know, all our businesses were over there. And they had McDonald's. They had the Gap and whatever else. Not anymore. Not anymore. No more Big Macs.

No more McNuggets. They're still sneaking in there and they have weird workarounds. Contraband, yeah. Yeah. You don't want any of those. The normal McDonald's where fake meat, who knows what the black market McNuggets are made out of. That's where all the Ukrainian soldiers are going. All the companies are just rebranding and I think just letting the Chinese sell their stuff in Russia.

So it's just like, oh, yeah, Adidas, we're leaving. Also, you know, we're just going to get a middleman. And there's still Adidas stores. They're just called something else. Vito, who the fuck are you? I am. The co-host of the biggest problem in the universe with Dick Masterson. Okay.

I'm a YouTuber with 250,000 subscribers. I've seen that, and you do a lot of videos about people who have been canceled for things. Yeah, I do that. Me and Dick went to the Dave Chappelle protest at Netflix, and we counter-protested, and we got a lot of press and flack for that. How did you guys connect? Dick almost got killed. Yeah, I was made retarded.

Retardeder. Antifa came for, my man. This was after the Trump stuff, if you could believe it. We went to the Dave Chappelle thing with signs that said jokes are funny and we like Dave and the trans people all must have been on their periods that day because they took our signs and destroyed them and beat us and threw me into a concrete anti-homish culture.

They were very violent trans peaceful activists as they would call themselves. I'm just saying the injuries that they levied against Dick was a pretty good argument against trans women in combat sports. I think I remember. that, but I had no idea it was you. Yeah, nobody does because Vito got all the news coverage. I was in all the pictures.

He's a YouTuber, that's his job. Good job. I'm a YouTube guy. But what is getting beat up at a protest do for your socials? Like, you see the bump in the social blade? I got a big, I got a big bump there. Because people are excited when you're fighting for comedy, free speech, whatever you want to call it. The problem is, then they follow

me, and I'm a disgusting liberal, and I'm like, this Trump guy sucks, and they go, hey, fuck this guy. So is that hard on you guys's friendship? Sometimes Dick says some things that I go, hey, we're going to get banned from YouTube. If you keep saying this shit. Oh, yeah. Actually, that is kind of a bit.

That's a big point of contention. Yeah. Because I don't have no filter. I don't know what is wrong to say. Like I really not know. Or like what's over the line? Because I feel like I usually, I could tell in the moment, like what's going to get us. The problem is I have that so often that if I listen to it,

I would just be a totally different guy and comedian. So, like, I have that feeling all the time. time. It's really hard. When you've been on the internet, not to sound like a boomer, but when you've been on the internet doing content for,

how long have you been doing your show? Like, uh, God, 10 years. Okay, yeah, and I've been on for 12. Dude, 10 years ago, you could say the craziest fucking shit. It, like, wasn't, it was no comparison.

And there were no filters. There was no hate speech. There were no racial slurs getting you banned from anything. You could just do whatever. It was insane. The rules keep changing and you can't keep track

of what the current rule is. And then somebody else takes over right now YouTube's got a new president, so you don't know. Is it going to get worse? Is it going to get better? I heard he's an NFT guy. I don't know if that's helpful. So it's probably going to get better.

I hope so. Yeah, we're all going to get cool. But then Dick, we're doing a show and he goes, well, Bob Sagget died because he didn't, because he got the vaccine. And I go, well, you shut the fuck up. You can't say that. It's funny, though. It is funny.

And that's what sucks is I know you're making a joke, but whatever stupid YouTube sensor, sensor, blue hair teenage checkmark Efsler is in there doesn't get the joke. Yeah. And they think you're serious. You ever notice every left-leaning person got fucking long COVID and every right-leaning person has vaccine side effects? Isn't that crazy? Isn't it crazy how the type of side-effect you get is so closely?

My vaccine side effects make me so fat and irritable in the morning. I hate them. I didn't even get vaccinated, but I'm getting all that shedding shit for my girlfriend. Really? Yeah. I think I might have long COVID. Are you a liberal or? Probably more so than a conservative, I guess.

I just think it's fun. Like everybody, when somebody dies, they, like, try to pretend that they're worried about his health. They're like, well, you know, let's get some more information on about his vaccine. And I just like to go, yeah, he was vaccinated. Ha ha ha, ha. You guys all killed him. You killed him with your, like, let's just go. Let's say what we want to say.

Well, our version of that is say is when somebody fucking dies who wasn't vaccinated by who was hating on the vaccine publicly. And then we get to sort of dance on his grave. Yeah. And he openly dances on their grave, which I think is cool. Benefit liberals. Wow. That is true. YouTube's on my side.

How did Foyntz get unsus suspended off Twitter for one day and then get deleted the next day? And we never got any kind of confirmation right about what he did or said. Something. We have no idea who's running these, these. Who's in charge of making the decision? I don't even think he tweeted. It was something he said in a city. Is it some intern in India?

Yeah. Like, what is it? It's a series of zeros and ones and zes. It's all fucking automatic these days. It's horrifying. It's all automatic. That's the thing that scares me the most is that I don't even think these decisions are being made by human beings. They're running the transcript of our show through an algorithm.

If the robot picks up too many red flag words, it goes, I'm going to take your livelihood away. Okay, but... That's actually, that is what happens. I don't know if you're joking about... No, but Fuences... Yeah, well, but then when you escalate it, shouldn't... Like, does a real person look at it then? A real person looks and makes sure that everything ran correctly.

Yeah, and then that's it. There are thousands of active anti-Fuentes people on the internet who I guarantee we're watching any... Spaces account that he was on on Twitter and definitely reporting anything that he said that was even slightly edgy. So for him, it's like, it's not like he's just getting hit with the random consequences of the algorithm. He's got fucking media

matters monitoring every movie. He makes as soon as he gets back on Twitter. And him getting deleted right away is a huge W for them, right? Can we talk about all these people that wanted a fucking boycott the Harry Potter game? We're never going to fucking play it anyway. We're all these Elon haters. Why the fuck didn't these lefties all boycott Twitter and stop fucking using it?

Well, they went to Mastodon before they realize that it sucks and is full of child pornography. And they're like, well, I just think it's lame, if you want to boycott something, give up something that's actually hard to give up. You fuckers are obsessed with Twitter. You know that Elon, who's basically fucking Hitler 2.0 to you guys in a fucking electric car instead of a Volkswagen.

Now you guys are supporting all of Twitter and all of Elon's advertising shit by tweeting all that? I don't know. It seems kind of fucked up. Because you're right. Because it would have been hard for them to give it up, but they can avoid playing the video game. They're like the kids that gave up fucking diet soda for Lent

or some shit or some pop that you never drank. It's like when Nickelodeon had the big help and you had to call in the hotline and pledge hours to clean up your community. And I would just call in and be like a billion hours and hang up the phone. What a dick. I spent a lot of time hating on what Elon's done

with the verification system on Twitter, which I think is totally fair. But the other day, I had the realization that, oh, it completely makes sense for me to pay for the verification Twitter blue thing on my porn account of PlugTalk because you get better amplification. I notice that when I look at my 4U tab on Twitter,

then I'm seeing people with Twitter blue over and over and over and like not particularly popular posts. So it's not the kind of shit they normally show you where it'll show me something from somebody I don't even follow that's really viral. But it shows you Twitter blue stuff nonstop. So it's just a purely pragmatic thing, even though I think that what he's done with the verification has been a disaster. It still just makes sense to pay for it.

And everybody's following a suit. Facebook's doing it right, Instagram. And I'll probably end up paying on there too. It's one of those things where they realize like, Why leave money on the table? Everybody's obsessed with our service. You can probably charge $100 to have your fucking profile blink and scream rainbow noises. Well, like, all they had to say was you get access to customer support on Instagram if you pay $12 bucks a month or whatever,

because I know infinite people on Instagram that have just been dying for some kind of customer support for all these years. But the problem with social media companies is it just doesn't make sense business-wise for them to fucking pay. No, it's horrifying. They make decisions without ever consulting you or telling you what you did wrong. You get strikes in your account. For YouTube, the only way to contact them is to tweet at a random account on Twitter. You're like, this is your official customer services on Twitter? It works really well, too.

And it does. And it's funny because I'll have like a 620,000 sub YouTube channel. And if I get dinged, I'm like, fuck. But then I'll go to like 100,000 follow a Twitter account. And I have like fucking, you know, the CEO of YouTube on their knees. Like, how can we help you? Yeah. That's kind of fucking weird that I had to go to a whole other social media thing.

It makes no fucking sense. It's crazy. It's the unbearable silence of our technological. overlords that they have complete control. They don't tell us what the rules are. When you go, well, can I just like talk to, I just want to talk to a human being. I just want to know there's someone there. And they're like, we can't give you that.

But in retrospect, now that we understand that the premium user experience on every social network is going to involve you paying like 10 or 15 bucks a month, it does seem like kind of a big ask. I'm using the service completely for free and I'm demanding customer service as soon as anything goes wrong. Once you're paying money, if they won't give you, like, access to somebody who's going to tell you why your Instagram got deleted. That seems insane.

So, I mean, it's basically going to create like a fucking cast system where people who pay are going to be able to get the basic access to customer support. We're all rich here. We're all good with that. Yeah, we're all ready for the cast. We're ready for Twitter apart, hide. I like that you can boost your dick picks. That's one of their selling features that it moves yours to the front of the line if you

pay. Did you see that one? Yeah. With the dick pick? They didn't say dick pick explicitly, but it's obviously applied. The omnibial is not using Twitter Blue. Explain yourself. Well, I wasn't sure if my account would get rebanned.

You think it might? Well, no. Who unbanned? Who unbanned? I got a boring fucking loose. I got in contact with the top. Not the Elon guy, but someone else. You talk to somebody?

Yeah. I had a guy. There's a bit of an aside, but I basically have a guy who messages me. I have a really hard time asking for favors in my personal life. That's just very hard for me to do it. I don't know why. I'm an asshole normally to everybody online. A person, I have a real hard time asking for me.

So this guy, he messages me, he's like, listen, I think I get your account back. It's like, okay, well, tell me how. So he goes through a whole bunch of shit, and he gets me connected with the head of Twitter's Trust and Safety. And so I shared an email. I'm like, hey, like, this is my account. Like, do you think I can do anything? Blah, blah, blah.

And she's like, oh, well, actually, telling people to kill yourselves is like an instant. You've done that about 12,000 times in your account. I was like, okay, well, I didn't even get a warning for that. I didn't know. And she's like, normally, we'll give somebody a second chance, but I see that you've had seven different accounts here that have been permaband. and I was like, oh, okay, well, I'm sorry for waste of your time. Thanks a lot, was my response.

And the guy's like, kill yourself. I left it in a good note. But then the guy he messaged me, he's like, no, no, no, no, you need to ask harder. You need to keep pushing. And I'm like, okay, well, I kind of feel like a dick doing it. She seems like, no, no, no, trust me. Send one email and push hard. I'm like, okay.

So I send an email and I'll be an essay to your platform. I'll make a good faith effort to reform, blah, blah. And she's like, oh, okay, here's your account back. And I'm like, yeah. Our entire culture has become this endless merry go round of like getting banned and crying about it. Like all of our art of our generation has been totally fucking wiped out and replaced with this repetitive coveting about like, well, I was banned. This is how I was banned.

This is how. It's just, it's so aggravating to me. Or it's like when comedians come on and do like, I don't want to hear another skit about like cancel culture. Yeah. Like it sucks. I agree. But like I'm over it. It sucks.

The people want to call to my show are like, oh yeah, I just got canceled. I'm like, do you have anything else? Like something that you ate, a big shit that you took or something. It's almost surreal for me at this point when I'm watching a random Rogan episode and he goes into the same like cancel culture is bad conversation that I've heard him had like hundreds of times

and I'm just like how the fuck are you having this conversation again without just sort of noticing that you've done this so many times. Yeah, I don't know. And then someone like Dilbert comes along and tries to break the mold and everyone freaks out.

You probably think that guy's a real truth teller, huh? No. No, I think I was the one that broke that only he was going off of a survey that had 130 black people in it. It was 130 people? Yes, because it said a thousand, but it was, but it wasn't a thousand black people,

but I know my FBI crime statistics, so I know that's only 13%. All right. I'm not gonna get into that on this show. Well, no, but okay. But do you believe that on average 50% of black Americans would agree that it's not okay,

it's okay to be white as a hateful statement? I don't even know what that means. Is it okay to be white? I don't know. I feel like it's okay to be white. I think we should be able to give that up. I think it's more than okay. I think it's pretty good.

It's just fine. Yeah. Yeah, like you're a person too, Vito. Thank you. I appreciate that. This is Italian, though. Person. Yeah, I am a film.

Not white, but still a person. A little less of a person, but she's a woman. Yeah. And I'm just struggling with that. Okay. The issue is that trolls will take a statement that on its face is not offensive, but it's kind of needling you in a little bit of a way. way. Like, um, and, and, and, but the, the problem is that people on the left, what should happen is,

you get an annoying, you know, like a four foot fucking goblin going to be like, it's okay to be white. And the response is, yeah, and then you walk away. Exactly. But the problem is they somehow bait these progressives into arguing against the most stupidest fucking shit, where someone comes like, it's okay to be white. And it's like, well, actually, systemically structurally, if you really think about it, like, whiteness is actually post-colonialist influence on it. And it's actually not okay to be white. And it's like, and white is an inclusive thing that doesn't, and it's like, bro, just shut the fuck up. Why the fuck are you arguing?

Because the problem is that, like, this is, like, hyper niche, like very fringe political discourse. And then everybody in the center looks at you, and you got, like, some normal dude is like, well, I think it's okay to be white. That's kind of weird that you'd argue against that. And then you look fucking insane arguing up against it.

Like, the right is so good. This is what jokes were funny was. This is what we did. We're like, we need to make a sign that's got nothing. Like, at first we were thinking, like, okay, what if we're, like, here to support a black comedian? Like, nah, that's putting too much onto it. It's just jokes are funny.

If you disagree with that, and that's upsetting to you, that is something fucked with you, and everyone will see that. Because everyone's going to see that, and so, why are the people smashing the jokes are funny? I had a sign that's the jokes are funny.

The dude ripped it out of my hands and broke it into a million pieces. And it was done on purpose to wind them up. But then, to be fair to the flip side, the only hard thing is that sometimes people will come in masquerading with those messages, but there's really like something else. Like, it'll be like a guy saying like,

numbers don't lie. And it's like, okay, I guess that's true. And it's like, now I'm going to tell you the percentage of Jews that own all the media in the country and the percentage of black people that are violent people that are violent people. You got to ignore that guy and you got to go,

well, I still can't disagree with the core message that it's okay to be white. Can you watch a Dave Chappelle comedy special and actually laugh at as trans material when it's basically like something that you might have laughed at like 10 years ago? Like it's just so fucking far behind in terms of like the discourse about trans people

that we've probably all been exposed to. Yeah, I mean, it's not. You got to put on your Normie hat for a bit and just kind of like pretend. It's like a time machine. Yeah. But he tells it so good. I'm like,

ah, fucking I'm in the 90s again. This is great. Give me some weed and some cereal. I mean, what's that like? Like, do you genuinely think Dave Chappelle's specials are funny or do you find it kind of cringe?

I think they're a mix. Dave Chappelle is my favorite comedian, okay? Aw. I like the Chappelle season one and two, okay? Oh, yeah. He's on a journey right now, and I look forward to seeing where he ends up. So you,

You don't like his transept or stance on it? It's like, it's okay, but again, it comes off. It's like that, it's like hearing a comedian do another five-minute bit on like cancel culture. And it's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But then like, like you said, especially like online, like we've advanced the discourse like so far. Like I can be talking to a normie and it's like, I really don't know how I feel about puberty blockers for 14 year olds.

And they'll be like, are you talking about transvestites? That they have no fucking idea like where, because the online shit has moved so far out there compared to where like most. human beings are at in the real world. I didn't even consider your trans beliefs. I don't know. I never heard you talk about it before. They're pretty out there. Are they?

Like trans women are women? Is that a... Well, I can say that you can never admit that. That they're... That trans women are women? Yeah. Because if you did, if you admitted that, you would have had to say

you gotten beaten up by a girl at your protest, so... No, as a guy. Well, I don't know. I don't want to... We can't assume... We're a bodybuilder. But in that environment... Even that joke is cringe.

You kind of got to get beat up in that environment, right? Like, you're going to look at the bad guy. You start slugging it out with these people, right? I was, my arms, I was holding my sign, and this woman had gotten in between my arms. It's like, well, this is... She was playing, like, ring around the rosy,

like, forced her way under his hands. This is bad, and then a guy said, he's strangling her. She said, he's strangling me, he's strangling me. And I'm like, all right, well... The Antifa news, there was an Antifa news site that reported Dick Messerschin was strangling people at the protest.

I believe him. Yeah. I bet she got in there and I bet he was like, you know what? I'm going to go drag her down. We got video. We got video. He's question as much as well as I know, Dick. Could you really handle somebody that fucking annoying?

It would be so easy to strangle right in front of you. I don't know if you can handle that for more than, more than five or ten seconds without squeezing a little bit, you know? Just a woman screaming, you know. You've experienced that before? Yeah, I've experienced it. If you were to like bait somebody into a jiu-jitsu match at a protest, I feel like that could be really viral. You can't get violent, though, because the, they went. I literally can't because I made

a glass. But Jiu-Jitsu is such subtle violence, you know, like if you make a protester tap out, that could be some pretty good content. You should go, you should get like black, or do they have belts in Jiu-Jitsu? Yeah. Well, yeah, get a black belt jujitsu guy to go troll protests and jiu-jit-sid them. I want an Akito master

so they run at him and he just gracefully steps aside and flips them over, yeah. That'd be amazing. As long as we're talking about things that are played out and we're annoyed of hearing people talk about, no offense to present company or anything, but I I just really can't handle hearing people talk about dating on podcasts and shit. Like, respect to all of our friends who are making a living doing it.

But it's just really hard for me to sit through a lot of this shit. I don't know if I'm the- The dating talk? The red pill shit. Should a guy pay for the tip? Or should a guy pay for the bill when you go out to eat? And should a guy hold the door open? It's just like, holy fuck.

This is so boring. My fans are like- Everybody loves it. My fans are fucking revolting. If you go to my server there, I was like, no more red pill content. and fuck this shit, we hate it. But it's like, yeah, like Prince of money. There are so many people online.

You've built like a whole ticker like basically off it, right? Yeah. Yeah, and it's like you said, it's like always like, okay, we're all sitting down now. Does body count matter? And it's like, should men pay for everything if women are earning more in college? Right. And it's like, oh. Let me think about the last like 785 times.

At some point, the body count question, like for how much it has been discussed on podcast for the past couple years. At some point, a conclusion is going to have to. Will it? Yeah, it doesn't matter. The greatest red pill philosophers of our time have debated this across 750 million different YouTube channels. Can you tell us? What progress has been made?

I love how it all, everyone's sample size and the dating advice comes from like a sample size smaller than Dilbert's survey. It's like, okay, I got, this is what you do. I'm like, you're talking about like 20 girls, 30, like 40? What is this? And it was all in one area.

I love hearing people talking about relationships really authoritatively who are like 21. And I'm just like, wow. Like you really have no fucking room to comment on any of this until you've really even like 100 sex partners, I'm going to say. Or like, you know, multiple like long-term relationships. Oh yeah, 100, Adam, thanks. I mean, what have you learned?

Was the 100th one? Like, total enlightenment? I remember back when I was a kid. I liked watching the clock roll over to 100. Back when I only fucked 95 girls and I had no idea what was going on. Yeah, I was just, but. at 100. Lost in the woods. Then you hit 100.

You really started to click from here around 100. I can feel it coming in the emails now. Like I know this. It'll be something about girls. I'm like, I know this is just a bragging about how happy he is with his girlfriend, but guys don't know how to express this emotion. So they have to wrap it in like some kind of advice

or criticism. So I'm going to just take this and put this on the fridge and say, good job. So you just give out your email and just give advice to these poor bastards? Yeah, I try to make it as bad as possible. because nobody wants the, just break up with her. Like, this is an abusive relationship.

What are you doing? That's a good idea. I could see myself getting a couple extra hours of content out per week just off answering emails. Advice, you call them, and just, yeah. Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, but even, like, the dating advice shit

is like, like, 85% of it, like some guy would be like, I was with my girlfriend yesterday and she made some weird movements in bed and she clenched up, and I don't know if she came or not. Can you tell me? And it's like, you fucking ask her,

you fucking retard. 95% question she's like ask your fucking partner How the fuck are we supposed to divine this information from you? Like my boyfriend didn't talk to me at all yesterday And I'm not sure what's upsetting him at the moment Like can you give me some advice? No, no, that's why you have to lie to them because it's funny Or it'll be like, no, he's really pissed to you

And you should bake him a cake Or it'll be a catfish him. True. No offense, but I understand what you said There's a lot of times where people Where like a 22 year old is speaking And it's like you're speaking as a 22 year old clearly People that people that have like significant issues

Like so we fight all the time we blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, okay, well, how long you've been dating? It's like, oh, about four weeks, and it's like, or have you seen the ones? And I wish these girls posted pictures. That's really mean, but I wish I could see pictures to some of these girls, which she'll post, like,

so I have a problem. My boyfriend, he comes to sleep, and everything is okay, but he has a lot of trouble wiping, and sometimes he leaves shit all over the bed. What the fuck? Why are you still with this guy? You seen that multiple times? Yes!

On the, there's a, there's a subrides, we'll ask these relationship questions, and I'm like. But I'm always stuck between I mean, thinking, this question is so stupid that I cannot waste even a single second thinking about it or it's a troll. And you're just saying something. You got to treat it 100% serious. Even if it seems a little subtle in its stupidity that like, oh, you calibrated that perfectly because you're trying to get me to actually take this serious. And like when everything falls into either bucket, that's not a good place to be in.

Yeah, but if you know enough people though, where if you heard their stories at random, you would assume this person is full of shit. There's no way somebody can be this fucking stupid. And when I think about it, my early 20s brain was so much more entertained by conversations about, you know, all the nuances of relationships. So I totally understand why that shit hits for that audience. And I've often thought like, damn, 18-year-old me probably would have been a little too impressed with Andrew Tate. 75 girlfriends. And they're all working for him? Oh, my God.

And they don't even want to keep the money? This guy's got it figured out. He can buy as many Fortnite skins as he wants. True. And the girls are paid for them. He probably gets the $100 cards when he goes to Walmart. Yeah, dude. He's living the life.

That's why he's so bald. He's seen his hair growing out outside of prison. Like, oh, that's what 75 girlfriends does to you, man. That's not worth it. Yeah. As a young person, yeah, your perception is very skewed. Okay, I was with... What good masculinity looks like.

I was with Donald Soroni of the formerly of the USC. I can't remember. But either way, we're sitting there and we were talking about Andy Tate when I was on some Brendan Shub program that... that I went on, and he pulled up when Andrew Tate's kickboxing matches and was basically just like, look at this technique, tell me this guy is a top level fighter. And it looked really bad with his narration,

which obviously I'm not a fucking expert. But that kind of colored my impression of him. And then I also read like a fucking article where a journalist went to his house, and he described it as kind of a shithole in a bad part of town. And that also kind of made me like, well, if you're so rich off this Hustles and University thing, why aren't you living in like a baller ass pad?

Damn. I don't know. Have you ever had Tade on the show? No. Because you've had Tade on back in the day. Yeah, I kind of think I started in the wise. I think the entire blueprint. Did you know I wrote Men Are Better than Women in the book and was on Dr. Phil?

I saw the Dr. Phil thing. And honestly, I wasn't sure if it was the same person because time hasn't really been that kind to you. Jesus Christ. The time's been great. The liquor has been bad. It's the liquor and the drugs that are hard. I was looking at it like, it kind of looks like him, but I can't really take it. I was thinking, like, maybe you borrowed the name from him?

What the fuck is the story on that? Can we kill a few minutes on that story? The doctor film? Yeah. I wrote, I started writing this site, Men and Better Than Women.com is a joke? I mean, well, not completely. Whatever.

What year? Because I guess I do kind of like vaguely remember. 2005. Back when there, like, there was no Facebook. There was nothing. You had to go out of your way to find content on the internet. He went to people's websites. I was like Maddoch.

Yeah, Maddox. Yeah, Maddox. Oh, that's a website and shit. Yeah. Well, I spent a little time watching Justin Wang videos about his fallout with Maddox too, which I'm not really sure how that is going to actually matter throughout this conversation, but that would take hours. That was Web 1. So I started writing these just preposterous articles trying to push the line of what people would believe and

throwing in throwing in some real shit, throwing in some like overt misogynism and then just like insanity. So to try to just make like the perfect trolling articles every time. And some of those sounds like you just say, yeah. Yeah, some of those would get hundreds of thousands of comments. I went on Dr. Phil because they had a house full of insane people who were all bigoted and hateful, and they gave us a bunch of liquor and tried to make us fight. But I think I was the only one joking. But did you ever let that on to the producers at all? Or were we fully just in character the whole time?

Fully in character because it wouldn't be funny, and I fucking hated Dr. Phil. Like the whole pop psychology shit that is now, pop psychology is so pervasive that you can talk to people and have entire conversations is that they've just regurgitated out of a self-help manual. Right. I hated it then. I hate it now. I wasn't pointing at you to say that.

I was just looking at you. My blue hair will be the conduit for your hair right now. It's okay. Channel and focus, yeah. Yeah, so I went on there and, you know, just fought around. Yeah, called with the hole. And everyone melted down. What were you doing for a living at that time?

I was doing computer stuff. Okay. Marketing. There wasn't like a concern in your mind. Like maybe this could come back to get me and people wouldn't understand that our, I was trolling and it's going to make me, people are going to think that I really am.

I was 25, so I wasn't really thinking about things like that. I was thinking everyone's going to think this is hilarious. What am I? Not realizing that Dr. Phil has 60 million fans. It's like they didn't think it was funny. They didn't get the satire of it. I was fucking sophisticated I was. Nobody really got canceled back in 2005.

I was going to say it was very difficult to get canceled back then. The worst thing back then was if you ever took like a, like in 2017, 2008, especially with iPhone shit, if you took a nude picture of itself, that was like the craziest thing. Yeah. Taking news. Oh my God. It was like unfathomable.

One of the best days in high school was when this girl, Crystal, fucking, there was a picture of her that had been floating around email-wise in my high school of her shoving a seven-up bottle up her vagina. And somebody printed out a few of them and taped them to like the soda machine in school. And so that was the talk of the town for the rest of the week in my high school. This girl with a seven-up bottle up her cutche. It was fucking crazy, dude. What's a nice bottle?

it was pretty fucking huge like are we talking like the cap part like 20 ounce or like it's not like she got the whole thing but it was like a big one that she didn't I think get to like the straight part of the ball yeah but it was the triangle but she was in high school too

and also it's like nobody had a digital camera at this time so taking pictures and talking and it was hard yeah and so like to get like a single photo of this and then to have it like scanned and like printed out it seems like a

crazy effort. Printing out full-colored shit back then, too, was like, jeet, jeet, the printer would take like seven minutes. And if the librarian caught you, you got in big trouble. She's like,

why are you printing all this out? I'm like, I don't know. How would you print that in the fucking library, Vito? Not just vaginas. Although I do remember in middle school I was printing out

like Japanese porno comics when nobody was paying attention and binding them together and making a little collection. Binding them? You can't beat off until you bind them together? No, I would take construction paper and I'd make little, you know,

covers and had a little collection going. Wow. Yeah, I remember for a while there was a message board in high school, and we would all steal people's IDs and then, like, upload them to threads on the message board, and the school shut that down pretty quick. Wait, when the fuck did you go to high school? I graduated in 2002. I graduated 2007. I feel like you had so much more internet in your school than I did. I feel like the internet didn't exist in Omaha yet.

Where did you, New Hampshire? I had a live journal when I was 15, and that's when it really began. And actually, even before that, I was on, like, punk message boards and shit. I missed the live journal era. You were on there? That was real. Yeah, it was fun. There was some good live journaling.

Back when we changed the mouse to be like a fucking design and you'd have like fucking music load on webpages and stuff. All of my like high school drama played out on live journal for the most part. Damn. It's good times. That's great.

Wait, so when did you decide to just like fully inhabit the Dick Masterson name and also like what were the consequences of the Dr. Phil thing? God, I don't remember. It was pretty, uh, it was pretty traumatizing coming out of that house. It was a lot more intense that I thought it was going to be being a character for seven days straight

and getting interviewed by crazy producers. It was just hard to stay in character? Well, they're like, they wake you up at five. They make you fight people all day. Now, probably being on Twitter all the time, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but back then, this kind of atmosphere was... You were still more of like an actual human being at the time?

Yeah. So, back when niceties and politeness existed? Yeah. I got a little... I was like, Like, well, I mean, that's kind of the peak of that bit. So that's enough. You really kind of left it behind?

I feel like these days you got to just like lean into it. Well, we didn't have a guy. That was like 2008. So my book came out the day it came out and then 4chan got hold of it and put it to like 200th in the world or something like that on Amazon. That's why I learned about 4chan. So I don't know. After that, back in 2008, I just let it die until I did the podcast. with Maddox again.

Matt went swimmingly. Yeah. And I had to embrace it or die. Right, but how many years did you do that before you guys fell out? Two. And then the Dick show has been going for how many years? Probably seven or eight. How's that going?

That's going good. It's going well. A lot of friends. Heard a lot of stories about people getting canceled. Why are you debanked? So I made a Patreon alternative. Remember when Sargon got or he got kicked off

as he said a slur ironically some racist joke on another platform I remember being particularly pissed off about that at the time because it wasn't even something he did on Patreon yeah me too

so I said well how hard could this be to just make a web host and take credit cards like this is not complicated these guys have way too much power no one should be involved in the relationship between a fan supporter and whoever they're supporting

no matter what they say Like freedom speech is important. Freedom of economy is even more important than that. That's like you. That's who you are. So I made this patron alternative in like a month, got people on it, and it was just a lot harder than I thought it would be. Every bank, every major bank in America canceled all of my business accounts one by one,

no matter what they would say or look at. They've got a, it's a blacker black hole than YouTube getting through to them. But was it like anyone in particular that you were working with that was using your service that was like particularly like an enemy of the banks? I don't know. I think eventually, I think eventually somebody who hated Kiwi Farms pretended to be a lawyer and contacted a senior vice president at MasterCard and said there's all this crime and stuff happening. And they, so they MasterCard contacted this tiny bank that was hosting me. Because Kiwi Farms was one of the people who were fun three. Yeah, they were using it.

And then the little bank put me on the match list, which is like you can never do credit cards again for the rest of your life, basically. So what is your credit score like? Can you even have credit? Yeah, I just can't process cards. So I can't start a business. Right.

And process credit cards. So even if you started a business, you just being one of the owners of the LLC, you wouldn't be able to process credit cards through it? I don't know. It all goes back to how many people are you going to report, are going to report you? Right.

Like, that's what everything relies on. Are you not much of an enemy to these people? I hope so. I don't think so, though. But I've never thought that. Like, the way that things have devolved has shocked me over the last 20 years, to going from, like, just comedy to just doing comedy to, like, becoming a major force in stopping this insane tyrannical mob

from dominating everything that we see in life on entertainment and television. Television has become so important, the internet has become so important, that the quest to control that as a choke point has become an existential crisis to people like us. So... So I used to say, like, Twitter's not real life, Twitter's not real life, and it's not. That's true. Now it's more important than real life. Having control of, like, Twitter and Facebook, like that, it dictates entire news cycles.

it arguably instigates real-life stuff. Like, the LN probably doesn't happen without videos on my... It's worth $44 billion. Like, it is the most... More than that, right? Really. Right, but, you know... It's like...

So the control on the Internet stuff is insane. And the... I made this joke, I think, like, three or four years ago. I keep making it. I feel like it's going to happen pretty soon. Where we're going to cancel people so hard. We're going to be calling, like, leasing agencies to find out, like, who's renting apartments to who?

And it's like, didn't you know Dick made that comment about Nazis? Are you really going to rent... Are you going to serve it? his mortgage. Are you really going to rent an apartment to him? I would almost assume that they are doing that because didn't Richard Spencer's mother get run out of town wherever she was living at? Maybe or Lauren Southern's parents

got kicked off Airbnb. Like 70, 60 year old people? Yeah, it's insane, yeah. But okay, what's the line in the sand or what's the X factor that separates something that we could kind of agree on, which is that Twitter and publishers should probably have the freedom to allow whoever they want on their platform versus what's happening to him with the banks, which is like, it seems like an extension of the same argument. I think there's an easy thing that we should all agree on, and you should, and if you don't agree on this, fuck you. Okay?

If you fuck around on a platform, then you can get banned on the platform, and that's it. This cross-platform shit is fucking crazy to me. That, like, if I do something really bad on Facebook, I'm going to get banned on Twitter and YouTube and Twitch and whatever the fuck else. Yeah. Like, if you fuck around on Facebook and you do something shit, you get banned on Facebook. If you fuck around in a bank, do you get banned in a bank? But when it's like the whole world is coming down on you for a mistake that you make somewhere, I think that's bullshit.

That's crazy to me. I think we have to get the courts back to being involved. Like if you, if, you know, if something happens to you to McDonald's, they dump hot coffee on you and, like, you know, cause you insane damage. You take them to court, no matter what happens. Like, somebody doesn't shoe your horse right. You take them to court and you go through a discovery process and you find out who is wrong there. Who's owed? was harmed. Like our, the American court system was made to figure out who was harmed and how to

compensate them for that. And because of CDA, because of the laws we passed on the internet, CDA 230, there's no court involved anymore. It's just a mob. It's convincing an invisible person if somebody else should be hurt before, before you even assess the damages. So whatever we do to get people back in court to assess this stuff, I think is important. I don't think the answer is the court though. And this sucks, but I think the answer is the culture. It has to be, because the courts will follow the culture. If the Culture dictates that we need to be killing people on the internet, metaphorically, you know, destroying somebody's name or brand. But I think the laws will get past to do it, which is the scary part.

We have to get people to understand that people can make mistakes and grow and learn, and that there's not always a binary. I don't know if you've realized this. Nobody is a little bit wrong or a little bit right. They're either, like, so fucking wrong that they need to be, you know, eradicated from existence or, like, they're 100% correct on everything. Like, it's insane. Like somebody can't make a statement that's like a little bit wrong with it. People are like, oh, this guy's a racist, a transphobe, this guy is a fascist, this guy's whatever. It's like there's no middle ground and it's fucking crazy.

When you, like if I'm assuming all the banks at some point, like the Daily Stormer probably had checking accounts with some bank at some point and they, I assume, you know, pulled out and stopped working with them. But the problem is that what he was trying to create was a lot more innocuous, right? But it's being conflated with stuff that's specifically hateful? Or would you say that there should be. banks or should banks be you know? Bank should absolutely be blind. It's a payment processor. You're processing people's So if you're a bank and you know that you have

neo-Nazis running businesses doing neo-Nazi things. If you're a bank and the guy is using you to sell fucking child porn, you should fucking process a payments. But that's illegal. It doesn't matter. It's not your job to enforce it though. Like here's, you're coming from porn. How do you feel about

the fact that like so much porn regulation was essentially built off the backs of like fucking visa and payment processes? like enforcing rules and shit. I do think that's crazy because on OnlyFans, you're not allowed to do shit stuff. You're not allowed to fuck it. I think a woman's not allowed to penetrate herself

with something that's not a sex toy. So if you're fucking a cucumber, I think that could be a problem. Some of I totally agree with it too. Like the outdoor stuff is not allowed on there, which like in public, which I think is a really good precedent to say. Are you allowed to choke women on OnlyFans?

I'm not 100% sure. But also the reality is that more often than not you are allowed to do all of these things. things, you just can't label or tag the post as that. And if a bunch of people decide to report you, you can probably get fucked. Because I think a ton of girls are skirting the rules, because there's just not

enough analysis by the company. The problem is that the rules. The rules can be that. Like, everything you said is fine. If only fans want to set those rules, it's okay. It's just scary when it's coming from payment processors. I don't think they should have any role in dictating that. You just process a payment. Same thing with ISPs, right? Like, if you say something really bad on

Twitter, should AT&T be able to cancel your internet account? Like, that's crazy. to me. But I think that if you were to poll the American people today, I bet like 35 to 40% would agree that an ISP should be able to cancel your internet account. You think it would be that high? I think it would be. Yeah. If you change it to COVID, it would be

even higher. Like that people were so pissed about medical misinformation. Well, it's because you're talking about changing the culture, but it seems like, you know, a large part of the culture agrees that they don't like the cancellation. They don't like what's going on. No, bullshit. And it's more focused in these kind of narrow trust and safety

teams and whatever else. I do agree There's a lot of hypocrisy. Absolutely. Yeah, no, the problem is where we're at, and if we've learned anything over the past five fucking years, it should be this, is nobody has a principal position on fucking anything. Yes. It's whenever it benefits their fucking guy.

Absolutely. Full stop. I have never seen, we joked about it. I don't know if it was on the podcast on it. I've never, I've never seen somebody conservatives care about environmentalism until this fucking East Ohio shit happens. Well, yeah, every time they see Satan in, like,

the Super Bowl, like a fat guy and a red hat. Yeah, right? Everything is satanic. It's like, well, we got to wipe this filth up. I'm like, oh, yeah. I think Trump just made you guys think you're cool for the last couple years, and you're really just tyrants also.

They hate cancel culture unless it's the literal devil. Dick, isn't that okay? I'm listening to this fucking Barry Weiss podcast about J.K. Rowling, and it's fucking hilarious to see how the right used to be obsessed with canceling Harry Potter because of the witchcraft. Whereas now, because of a few vaguely transphobic comments by the author, it's now considered like a big free speech

thing. Everybody turns on a dime. Nobody has any principles. But I think if people are at the, you know, if they're willing to keep saying, well, I hate cancel culture and I want people to get canceled. Like, can we instill in them like, okay, but you got to go both ways on it. Like, you got to not want to cancel a guy for wearing devil horns at the fucking Grammys. Fuck. I just realized that we started this podcast complaining about people talking about cancel culture. We've been doing it for like the past 30 minutes, haven't we? I just realized that. Oh, God. We're doing a real cool. I'm feeling on mushrooms right now. Oh, shit. We're doing like a cool based version.

Yeah, we're the cool canceled guys. We're like a cover ban, but we were like doing some cool little extra riffs in there and shit. We got banned from Twitter for saying fucked up shit, man. That's cool. What did you say? You told that guy to eat a cinder block. Yeah. That's such a lame thing to get a cinder black for, really?

Yeah, I told Chris Reg guy to eat a cinder, like seven years ago. That got you banned on Twitter? Yeah. But you've returned, right? Yeah, thanks to Elon. Really? He's who got you back on the platform? Not him personally.

I don't know. It was him personally. It might have been. I think in my case, he personally intervened. I think he knew. Yeah, what the fuck? Because I've been following you for a while, and then I didn't realize that you had been deleted until you returned.

And I was just like, oh, shit. Like, I haven't seen that fucking little profile picture in a long-ass time. Yeah, you just fall off the face of the earth. Yeah. That's the worst thing about Twitter is that, like, it really is like the congregation point where I have all these contacts. And I literally just disappeared. And the people go, oh, I didn't even notice you were gone.

Right. Because I know, it's fucking horrifying. fucking horrifying. Fucking Donald Trump. Yeah. When that motherfucker desperate off Twitter is like,

does he even exist anymore? Is he real? Yeah. I remember that guy. Was he ever real? And that was the strongest man in the history

of the planet. Billionaire plus United States president and he's fucking gone. It's crazy. Holy shit. Because you have however many like hardcore fans are going to follow you

between platforms. And that's why when you see something like Fuentes' his audience that has managed to keep track of him for all these years, it's kind of incredible. But, you know,

realistically like somebody like... But he has to devote all his energy to that. Yeah, but somebody like me who kind of like just followed you on Twitter one day on a whim and didn't really think that much about it. It's like that realistically, it's, it's tough. Yeah. That follows probably gone forever.

And all the Wentez on, haven't you? We did. You did? How did it go? Felt a little pointless, but it was all right. Was this pre-ye or post-ye? You really think he's gay? No, yay.

I thought you said gay, bro. I thought I was actually pre-ye and he was slurping up Kanye. No offense, Fortez. But he was, you know, doing the whole song. dance of like, I love black music. I like Kanye West. Because Kanye was already saying all the Christian shit and he's the Trump support type shit.

So, you know, Fentz is just going up. Like, he's so good at dancing around the whole, like, racism thing and just telling you all these things that kind of throw you off the scent. Sometimes he's good at dancing around the race. He was, but I will say, it's pretty funny that when Kanye came out, he was more extreme than Fentas was on almost everything. And then I look like an asshole trying to convince him on. He's like, well, I don't know if Wentz does like the full one Nazi shit anymore.

And then here comes Kanye. I love Hitler. I just love this Hitler guy. And you're like, wow. Like, we told you. Okay, but what was... You didn't kind of take an L on that one. What was the point where you stopped being able to be cool with Fentos?

Or when did the communication cease? Because I am a fucking loser who has a principal position on deep platforming. And I think that in almost no circumstances should somebody be D platform, save for like imminent threat to like life, right? Somebody's like trying to murder somebody or whatever. And I think it's by my position for roughly the past, like, I think I want to say three or four years, four or five years about. And Fuentes' his little group of people.

people got real mad at another ex-friend of mine who goes by the name Mr. Girl. And yeah, they got him, they spam reported his shit. And obviously, he told fun to us like, listen, we do funny content. Obviously, the streams are amazing. But, like, you have to, like, super crack down on this shit. And he was, like, very tebby. He's like, oh, well, I don't even think we reported him. And, like, oh, here's a clip from you in 2017 saying that you're for D platform.

And I was like, oh, yeah, well, fuck you, dude. So I don't want to, I'm, like, very, I try to, like, there are some cultural values that I feel very strongly about that I enforce, like, really hard. like really hardcore. And one of that is that deep platform shit. If I see people in my community even joke about it,

they get fucking banned. So you went real hard for Mr. Girl for him to then launch an investigation into you. Pretty weird, isn't it? I will say, though, I will say.

What is the status of the investigation? The status is, as of yesterday, he contacted like over 50 fucking women that I fucked and something that I even forgotten I fucked. And he said he doesn't have a single person that wants to come forward

to the rape allegations. So I beat the rape charges, okay? Wow. Is he going to do like a this? your life and pussy for it? He's got all this information. He could at least roast you. I'm chatting with a girl on my stream and she's like, oh,

I just got a DM from Mr. Girl asking if we're still Plutonic. Like, you're fucking obsessed. Yeah, it's insane. Do you think Mr. Girl should have been banned? No, I don't think so. Absolutely not. What's the worst thing he ever did on the platform? Because I never thought I mean, I could see how the algorithm probably wouldn't have liked the I'm a pedophile

song, but, you know. Well, as far as I understand the reason he got banned was it was a video where he included a scene from a movie where it looks like somebody's sucking cock. Really? It was actually, what's the movie where he has like a chicken wing hanging out of his pants? And the girl like eats the chicken wing. So it wasn't actually pornographic.

But apparently Fuentes people were like, hey, maybe we can get this over on the sensors. And just mass reported it as pornographic content. So he got banned because YouTube thought he was posting porn and refuses to look at what the actual clip is and investigate it. Damn, we need Elon to buy YouTube. So we can give Mr. Girl back on the platform? Oh, we just need an alternate video platform. You don't think rumbles it? It could be.

if they, you know, get their shit together. 100 million doesn't go very far. I've looked at it. No, 100 million does not go that far. It looks like the way websites looked like 15 years ago. That being said, Rumble, we're down for an exclusivity deal anytime. Because I know you've been handing them out. We love Rumble.

I'll make some all right content for Rumble. They don't take all right content. They take alt-right content. It has to be alt. It's got to be alt, alt, man. All they had to do is rip off YouTube, and it looks like a disaster, the interface. It looks like YouTube 20 years ago. It looks like something.

other than YouTube. They're working on it, okay? We love you, Rumble. Please give us millions of dollars. Can we not do this thing where we shit on every... Okay, listen. I agree that Rumble looks shitty right now, but competition is good, okay? So Rumble, keep trying.

I hope you guys are watching. At least it's not going to get fucking bitch shit. Because, yeah, I get fucking annoyed that it's only fucking YouTube and Twitch, okay? We should be able to walk to another platform if like shit is fuck. I noticed this thing happens where every time, like, yeah, every time another platform pops up, everybody is shouldn't. Like, don't you guys want these fucking people to succeed?

Even though Rumble is pretty pathetic at this current moment, like Steve Will do it having at least some option of a place to post his videos seems like a good thing, especially considering that what he got banned for is like the most egregious witch hunt-ass shit imaginable. I want to go back to a time before the social networks convinced us, like, just put all your stuff on art servers and let's get rid of all the personal websites and whatever else. You don't need that. And they tricked us and took complete control. I want to go back to like, I used to go to your website and Maddox's website and whatever the fuck else. And they've destroyed that. I mean, we romanticize that, though. A lot of them were fucking

fucking dog shit. 98% of the war dog shit, but the 2% that were good were really good. I am worried about YouTube not thinking Rumble is competition. Like their new guy is an NFT blockchain guy. And I don't know if you're in the crypto space, but there's a concerted effort by big venture capitalists and these gatekeepers that we have right now running finance and running the world to take over Web 3 and neuter it before plebs like

can take control and turn it into the Wild West that it should be. Like the SEC is going after it just for fun. There's a war being fought for freedom on Web 3. And I think YouTube's going to, I hope they don't win, but I think they are making some moves to take it over. I think meta is going to win when the Metaverse finally comes to town. I think it's going to be. I just want to float around as a little harmless guy and go on VR Adventures.

Actually, JK. I think that that's probably the dumbest thing that Facebook has ever invested money and two, and I'm still, I'm trying to figure out what the fuck they were there. You gotta believe. Fuck you. Listen, as a huge shareholder right now on Facebook, I hope you guys do what you need to do and make it work. You've been disappointed in their Metaverse efforts? I don't know. All I know is some shit turned around recently,

and that stock is looking hellly good compared to where I bought it. It's coming back. It felt like, what was it, like $85 a share? And I think they're back up to $180 now. I see, I'm not that invested. I'm not paying attention. It's like $300 to one point. It's felt like $120. There is like a pot of gold, I think, waiting for anybody that can figure out. VR? Okay, just make good VR porn and everyone will buy a headset. It's the easiest thing in the world. Like, you saw it. Okay, but the other 95% of people that don't want to just use it to jerk off.

It doesn't matter. Okay, why did VHS beat beta? Because porn was more easily accessible on VHS. Why did Blu-Ray beat DVD or HD DVD? Because porn was more accessible on Blu-ray? I don't actually believe that. I know that's repeated a lot, but was it really DVD sales of pornography that was driving the success of these platforms? Yes. I don't believe it. you talking about? Do you know how much a porno DVD used to cost? It was like $80. And these old guys were just walking and buy $80 porn DVDs. They're psychopaths. I think Blu-ray won because Sony was able to integrate it on the fucking PS3.

Nothing can waste money like you're dead. For the record, the studios will waste more money in your life than any other part of your body. We're paying the girls like $1,000 back then too. It was dude to put out an $80 DVD. Listening. It's beautiful. To what old porn girls would get, they would film those crazy fucking scenes and they'd walk away with like a 50. $1,400 check and no rights to anything, no royalties for anything. That was insane.

And that was like the extreme era, too. Like, one of my favorite porn VHS tapes that I watched back in the day was this Bukaki film called 80 Guy Cumbarito, where basically it begins showing this Asian woman with gigantic fake breasts, Ava Devine. And it zooms out to show that there are 80 men in the room. And she goes on to, like, hold a tortilla under her face and then 80 different dudes jerk off onto her face it falls onto the tortilla

and then she attempts to like roll it like tortilla yeah but it's liquid you're just watching her try to complete this like impossible task and porn and I remember like Googling that at one point and realizing that there were some other similar titles at the time

like there was a one where they actually like a bunch of guys beat off into a pan that the woman was holding and then she cooked it like eggs and ate it. And I remember her, the protein strains. I remember her like choking and gagging on cumm eggs. While it was happening,

which to her credit, Ava Devine, when she was eating the cum burrito, she was acting like she loved it. Really? Yeah. I think I would hate, I think if I was one of the older porn stars,

I think I would hate new OnlyFans girls. Oh, yeah. Even though like, even the Mia Khalifahs and the Lana Rhodes, like hate the current generation because they were drinking bowls of piss and whatnot. Well,

Lana was not. Yeah. They're like, I got six tennis balls shoved up my pussy. For $1,200. $20 and some RV coupons. Is there some kind of outreach for the old porn stars? Because I feel like I owe like lethal weapons, you know, some back rent for if she had an only

only fans or... I don't know. Maybe she does have all my fans. That'd be a nice way for you to give back. You could probably get like a much more personal relationship. You could be FaceTiming her and shit these days. I don't have time for that probably. Her rate has probably dropped a bit over the years.

Probably a pretty cheap date, I would say. That'd be sick though if you like started just fucking like going on escort sites and fucking the porn stars that you liked back in the day? Because I bet a lot of them wrong. And how about we take the VR technology and we can take these aging porn stars and deage them into virtual bodies. Jesus. And then they could live forever in the cloud.

I love it. I think you're right. Destiny, I think you're an idiot downplaying the porn part of VR. Yeah. If there was good, I don't have a VR headset. And I'm like the nerdiest video game moron.

Because I'm just like, well, what's the point if I can't fuck like a robot? I don't know if I've, not to flex. I don't know if I fuck too many girls. but I just feel like seeing a girl in VR and feeling my hand, there's going to be a big disconnect there. Well, there will be an interactive doll as well that you purchase. Why don't I need the fucking doll if I have the VR?

I'm just saying that if I'm VRing a girl, and she's giving me a blowjob and I feel my fucking hand. I know my, I know the difference in my purse of the fucking mouth. There will be the PlayStation Blowjob robot, okay, and you just press X and it vibrates. Okay, well, now if you're talking about a VR headset and a Blowjob robot, an interactive blowjob robot,

I think that you're up playing the VR headset and downplaying the Blowjob robot. I think the Blowjob Robo. Blowjob robot without the VR is not, it's not nearly the same experience. You need both. Don't they sell those auto blows for like fucking house down payments?

Yeah, and they don't have a VR component. That's why they also are not a major market. Have you tried any, have you tried the auto blow? No. I've only walked around. I have one. Did we talk about it? Is it any good?

Uh, yeah, it's good. You got to clean it, though. That's the hardest. I bought one of those auto strokers. Is that what you're talking about? That just goes up and down. Yeah. Yeah, I got one, but I bought it from like China.

and for some reason I thought I wanted like rainbow lights flashing when I was getting it. I'm like this fucking sucks. Is a fleshlight like not even on the level of what you're talking about? Because my girl has a flashlight and I think I used it wrong the one time I tried to fuck it because my dick wouldn't go in. And I'm not sure what I was doing wrong or. Yeah, I got one that it's like a flashlight but it has like an automatic component to it.

But it just lit up like a fucking Christmas tree and it moved too fast. I think I need to like an LGBT one or something. Yeah. I don't know. It was like like the Chinese were like and I want to go, oh, welcome to Hattachi time. And it would just fucking jump around and it made a bunch of. bunch of fucking noises and whistles. That didn't work for you?

No, I was, I don't know who gets off on that. It basically was screaming at my dick and laser lights were shooting out of it. I'm like, I'm going back to my hand. This is too much. You didn't watch enough Gundam growing up. Yeah, exactly. If I was into Gundam and fucking all the anime shit,

but it was too much. Was there a moment in your life or like my hand is just not enough? Like I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I love my hand, but then I go online and these guys, they talk about, they go, oh, it's fantastic. And you know, this little Asian girl, she screams at your dick, and I was like,

all right, I'll try it. And it's just too much. I can't do it. Have you ever tried using, like, vibrators and shit? No. Oh my God. Vibrate on what? On your dickhead.

Ugh, no. It's, listen. What about, like, a vibrating, like, cock ring? If you, you know? Try one of those things? Holy fuck. What does it look like? Just, you can use any fucking vibrator.

It's just like a vibrating and just hold it on my penis? Put it on your fucking dick. You let it fucking vibrate and shit happens. Okay, kinky guys. Sorry. Yeah, okay, Mr. fucking, the first time I was invited to your show of yours, I had to look up like 30 things.

I thought you were inviting me to fuck you. You thought I was black when he first got a body. Well, because I already said Adam does hip-hop. So I didn't know you were just the slave owner. Hip-hop. Listen, I'm here to rep a... I like how... Oh, the bleep that.

I like how the Starbucks is, like, indicating all the cucks at the table. Like, you guys are abstaining, but we're all... It's kind of like how we're symbolized. Coca-Cola in his hoodie pocket. I got it out of your vending machine. Really? I was looking for a coffee. Thank you for the support.

I needed some caffeine. We were going to institute one of those at our studio. The vending machine up front. I like that. Any guests that come in? Yeah, I had to give you $3 to appear on your show. You should just break it too so it always like fucks up and you just collect all the fucking money. I need to get like weekly reports of how much people are buying because I feel very disconnected from the vending machine.

I have no idea if anybody's actually using it. You should put an ATM that charges like 10 bucks. Yeah. You get money out to use on the cash only? You ever done a casino ATM? I just got back from Vegas. Strip Club ATM. Yes.

Underground poker room ATM. They will decide to charge you whatever the fuck they want. Jesus. I got to go do a bunch of chargebacks before I forget. You know what they do too in strip clubs? They will, whatever you're getting, right, they give you the girls fee, and then they're giving you this, like, $25 beer fee for your two drink minimum. They always come over and interrupt your lap dance, like, in the middle of the song.

So you end up with two broken us. minute long segments. Have you noticed that? Is it anybody else? Yeah, just pick whatever drink you want. I don't, whatever kind of water you want to give me. I don't care. That's not the point of this.

I'm trying to get like a bunch of songs paid for in advance so that I can really get in the zone with her. Really try to like make her fall in low with me during the course of that lap dance. I don't need you coming over here and stiffing me with a bill that's going to distract me for the rest of the stands. How often you're in the strip club? Not often enough. Oh, okay.

I know some dudes that's like, like every weekend for them. I just find that so fucking fascinating that they're just wasting their life in there. Yes, I'm talking about you, Joe Budden. I don't know. I just couldn't imagine. Do you have a secret place?

The ones I go to, they got real big over COVID. Really? I know, they all shut down and I went back. I'm like, whoa. Wait, they got like, the girls got big or there's like a lot of clientele in there now? The girls got big. Oh.

Real big over COVID. I don't know if you guys have noticed this trend. I'm into that. I'm bringing together a couple of thick Antifa BBL chicks for him tomorrow. Nice. To debate. To debate. Just to talk.

I feel like you're definitely going to bang them, though. I don't think so. You don't think so? Why would you just assume that? I don't know. She told me she watched your interview with me. I feel like that's probably a pretty good start. Anyway.

What are you going to debate at mine? I have no idea. Antifa. I don't know what anything is happening. This is supposed to be a debate, and we cried about cancel culture for an hour. We did the thing. Debate about something. I mean, we tried to debate Ukraine.

It didn't really go too far. Well, are we doing it a super serious fucking... I know, that's pretty heavy shit. Yeah, Jesus. Ukraine's strong. Yeah. Thank you. I put up a Ukrainian flag in the Dick's studio to show my support.

Yeah. Hung it upside down. Because I don't actually... I'm just acquiesced to it at this point. It's like, well, I kind of missed Afghanistan, but I don't know. It was fun. It seemed a little soon to get back into a new relationship, right? We're getting married again.

I wanted to have a couple days. A couple years of being single first. But you got all the videos of Ukrainian strong. dropping little fucking drone bombs on the Russians? You like that? I will say the drone shit is fucking crazy with camera. It's fascinating. You used to have to spend $1,000 an hour to run a helicopter

with like a $20,000 fucking recording rig to get some of these shots. And now you've got these assholes like $150 dropping soda bottles. Dropping grenades on fucking Russians. It's got to be like the most gay fucking way. To get killed like in war two. Like in a video game it would piss me off to die to that. I couldn't imagine in real life knowing that there's some fucking

Just some little kid, dick around. Twink guy on a fucking video game Xbox controller like killing me and my friends with fucking grenades. You've got the training in your mind from growing up with movies that you should grab the grenade

and throw it, right? Like that's the fight. You've got to fight that instinct to go like, no, I should totally just grab it and throw it. Off the ground? Yeah.

Is that not, that's my main concern getting a grenade dropped on me from a throne. That you're going to try and be a hero. You don't have enough time to throw it? You got to grab it out of the air as it's fallen.

I'm going to revert to this instinct that I learned from movies of, oh, yeah, yeah, here you go. Maybe you could do a sort of like upward kick. Like, Paley. I just wonder what those Russians are thinking. They're like, oh, my God, I got a great position here in this trench. You're going to take a little nap.

Nothing could go wrong. And this kid just flies a little drone and just drops up like a bomb in his head. I will say outside of the fact that we're giving them all of our money, it is kind of cool. The whole Ukraine and Russia thing that is happening on the other side of the world and we don't really have to deal with it. Yeah. Isn't that like all of the world? That's most American intervention.

Every single America. That's a nice thing about having all the oceans between us. Yeah, yeah. We're pretty detached. That's so we keep it over there, right? Right. But there's all this fucked up shit going on in Mexico, but like none of us are really worried about it creeping on up to here, right?

Yeah. Besides the fentanyl and all the shit, I guess. That's why whenever they get us, we get so upset, you know, Pearl Harbor, we're like, oh, man, you guys came all the way over here. Yeah. 9-11, we're like, you motherfuckers. This is our little space. Yeah.

You're supposed to do that in your sandy hell. I hate when people act like, oh, like, fucking Americans, like, overreacted about 9-11. No, that is our right. Wait, what the fuck said that? I think a lot of people feel like, you know, it's kind of hypocritical for us to have killed, like, millions of Afghani people. Okay, hold on.

First, you did not kill millions of Afghani people, number one, okay. We wanted to, but we held back. Also, number two, I'm pretty sure that 9-11 was, like, the biggest terror attack in the world for, like, 37 different fucking countries. Because I think that, like, the foreign nationals that died in the world trade centers were, like the biggest terrorist attack for, like, Sweden or whatever. Hassan said it was good, though, right? He did.

Yeah. 9-11 was good? Yeah, Hassan loves it. I hate that you can be edgy if you're progressive. You can make the edgiest jokes you want about killing white people or men or whatever. Didn't he get banned for saying Cracker? Yeah, for like, yeah, because I fucking ratted him out. I went hard on Twitter.

I got those motherfuckers. Wait, did you de-blackform? Yeah. What is this coming from? You can't believe it, dude. You better apologize than Nick Fuentes, right now. I want to see this clip on Dave Rubin's Twitter. Go.

Defend yourself. Why is it okay for you to do it to him? No, I don't think I'd be platform, but I complained a lot that, like, because Twitch is very, very, very, very, very, very, very racially. sensitive in there too as to fucking anything it's even remotely yeah and having this guy going like oh fuck crackers the mayo side kill all white it was like bro that's so fucking stupid like you have to understand

how horrible you look and how horrible you make all of us look when you say shit like you can't defend any like progressive anything would you guys do this shit so fucking it is true we gotta set a line in the sand and be like listen you just can't say that stuff like you know why why not if you're gonna be so fucking sensitive on the other not if everything is like racism and white colonialism that's fine if you want to say everything is it's fine but you can't get up here be like, oh, kill all men are rapists

and kill all fucking white bills. Like, bro, come on. Yeah, we have that problem on the right, too. With, like, any new platform we have, like, okay, chats open. And, nann, nann, and like, guys, can you just... Why aren't you saying it? Why aren't you saying?

I just don't really want to say it right now. I don't know if like... Yeah, right, pussy. I feel like the G's on these guys' keyboards that must be worn out by now as much as they fucking... That in the brackets. They just put them around everything.

Yeah, what's all that about? Don't explain to us? I have a problem with the Jewish community. And they like to identify them with brackets. But I think we should probably be going out of our way to normalize canceling people for saying bad things about white people, right? Or at least trying in vain. Because it does seem like that's probably a really bad thing for the future of society.

If it's okay to say that white people suck and not okay to say that about literally any other ethical. Well, it's driving people insane. It's making people go like, well, next they're going to come into my house and kill me. And it's like, no, they're just stupid idiot activists who say this shit. We should try to force people to be ideologically consistent on this and say that it's wrong to say hateful things about any race. I think it's making people more racist the other way, too. Like a lot of these guys, I'm thinking, you guys don't really want to say the N-word that much.

You just, like, you know you can't do it and it's not fair. And I feel that, too. Like, if you tell me not to say something and I feel like I'm being treated unfairly, I just want to break the rules until I get kicked out. Like, there's so many guys that's part of being American for a lot of us, for a lot of American men. anyone. Don't tread on me. Yeah, exactly. My N-word usage.

But I think what happens is everybody, yeah, the unfairness human beings we automatically recognize when a situation is unfair. Like monkeys recognize when a situation is unfair. I make you watch the video where they pay the monkeys differently. Have you ever seen that one? Oh, and they start throwing the reward. Yeah, he gives one monkey.

They do the same task. One gets a cucumber, one gets a grape. And the one getting the cucumbers, like, what the fuck? Cucumbers suck. I'm doing the exact same shit as that fucking monkey. Why is he being rewarded? and I'm being punished. So it's an instinctual fucking thing in animals. And then you go, hey, it's okay for these guys to shit on you and your race and everything about your culture.

But if you do the same thing to them, we're going to ban you and you're removed from society. And it drives people fucking nuts. They're the monkey with the cucumber going like, I'm going to fucking, well, fuck those guys. And now I'm even more racist than I ever was. You do have to make the rules fair because it just drives people up a fucking wall.

I think this is what happened to Scott Adams. He goes, it's not fair. So now I'm going to say all blacks are a hate group and all white people need to move away from them. And you're like, just make Dilbert cartoons. All you have to do is make Dilbert cartoons. To be fair, the Scott Adams guy's been going crazy for fucking years. Yeah, but this is part of what's driving him crazy.

Messed up his brain, man. But she just left him. Yeah. And that's why. So that might have been what triggered this. More on him. Allegedly she just left him. Also, probably for a black guy.

She has like 1.4 million followers on Instagram and her likes are pretty trash. So I'm just saying maybe she did him a favor by piecing out. But it takes people like Scott Adams, who I want to say was probably a reasonable intelligent guy, but it just drives them fucking nuts. And they start saying shit that they shouldn't be saying. And they know is wrong. Black people are not a hate group because you read a poll incorrectly that said they don't understand the phrase it's okay to be white.

Okay, hypothetically, if it was true that 50% of black people said that they didn't want to be around white people are here. All black people everywhere? Like, if that was actually true, then I think that maybe he would have kind of a point. It's just that like my lived experience is that a very, very, very small percentage of black people ever express any kind of anti-white sentiment. If the poll was, is it okay to line white people up against the wall and put a bullet in their head?

And 99% of black people said, yeah, let's do it. I would understand Scott Adams going, hey, I kind of got a problem with this. Okay, that was not the poll. That's a hell of a poll. That's what everybody is treating it as, though. And they're like, well, did you see the poll? Black people said that. I'm like, that's not what they were saying.

We got out of this is, we have to get this weird fucking world, too, where, like, left-leaning people are, like, trying to reinvent, like, segregation and shit. where it's like we need black only spaces in schools we need non-white spaces dorms yeah it's really really really fucking weird but I realize how deep into the culture wars I am when like I was having a conversation

with two of the guys on my channel AD and TRL who I would consider like not politically obsessed and I said something about how it is considered politically acceptable to say negative things about white people in a way that it's not okay to say things the same things about a lot of any other race and they both looked at me like I was fucking out of my mind They had no fucking clue what I was referring to

because they're not like looking for these exceptions to the rule or whatever. So I was kind of like, okay. But also like what I'm gonna include into that is something like what's that fucking Scooby-Doo spin off that just came out that I didn't watch, but I watched your fucking video about it which is why it's at the top of my mind right now.

But it's like I'm watching that and it's like kind of amazing how many jokes about white people you're able to cut together. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. It's pretty in your face if you're looking for it. And part of the problem is I'm like,

this is like lazy. It's not even funny. Like, why do you feel you have to do this? Like, this is the current cultural zeitgeist. It's like, hey, we're allowed to say shit about white people. I was like, yeah, but do you want to? What is the benefit? So you're able to, like, mix and mingle in these spaces.

Do you hear a lot of anti-white sentiment that we should know about? No, since moving to L.A., I pretty much just hear a lot of anti-people of color sentiment. What? What? You're hanging out with a bunch of Nazis or what? Wow. Just in the social media scene, like, I hear a lot of benign racism.

Really? Towards any groups in particular. Hispanic, blames? Any groups that we would know of? Wait, any really funny jokes that we could repeat later? Dick, you're Hispanic. You could add them to my routine. You know, do you experience a lot of hatred?

No, because I look white. I mean, I can't even. I was told by Harvard grads that I'm not allowed to even talk, white Harvard grads that I'm not even allowed to talk about Mexicanness or racism because I'm white passing. I was like, all right, I'm done with this conversation. See, I think as soon as you start having the white passing conversation, that it kind of becomes obvious that maybe this isn't what we want to like

the vote are the entirety of our lived experience to figuring out what racial buckets to put people into. It's become so dumb. The conversations we have to have about race and stifled, the segregation as, like, exactly like you're saying, it's the desired outcome. All this insanity we have to constantly entertain, including the, like, the very basic polar opposites of racism, of anti-black racism, which is all power, uh, uh, systemic base. oppressive power struggles, like oppressive power structures, versus anti-Semitic racism, which is the definition of those power structures.

So you have to constantly not be both. Like you can't say a racism is culture-based, and you can't say a positive racism is oppressive structure-based. And it's just like fucking mind-dum, because you're like, I don't care. I want to live in the middle with everyone else. I don't want to have to deal with this shit.

You want to hate the blacks and the Jews equally. What of my favorite... Is that so wrong? He's joking, guys. He's just joking. One of my favorite many arcs are I stream is... I'm just saying they're totally... They're totally incompatible ideas.

No, yeah, for sure. There's a guy in my stream that comes up pretty often called Dan, and he's Jewish, and I make some... Sometimes in chat, I... You know, fuck around with it. I make a lot of anti-Jewish jokes. And people try to hit me with,

like, I don't really think it's cool to do, like, the anti-Semitic thing. And it's like, well, racism is like power plus prejudice, and Jews have all the power right now, so I figure I can't be racist towards Jews, right? Yeah.

And it is kind of hard to figure out what you say in response to that besides that you're just like treating the Jews unfair. Or you're just being anti-Semitic by acting as if the Jews are in power. Even just saying that is enough for you to be anti-Semitic in a lot of people's books, right? Yeah. That's a weird world. Yeah. I think there's very good academic waste to engage with really complicated and nuanced conversations about like racism and everything. I think it's good to look at power structures and analyze it and everything.

But sometimes I always do this in debates when I'm having a conversation with somebody, Sometimes, like, okay, hold on, let's take a step back, like, really far back in the background. They're like, what the fuck are we arguing for right now? Because sometimes when you take a step back from a conversation, like, okay, well, what am I actually arguing for? You realize, like, I think something is getting fucked up right now because, like, I'm in a conversation where I'm arguing that it's okay, to be racist against a certain group of people because maybe their ancestors did something bad. Like, when you back up and you macro analyze things, I think you start to see, like, okay, this is fuck. Like, let's, like, refocus. Because you can use academic definitions to get almost anywhere in a conversation.

And it gets really, really weird at some point in time. What was going through your head when Lex Friedwin was grilling you about saying I just thought of such a dumb conversation. I was like, you're supposed to say it was a wrong. You were kind of like not engaging and just sort of like, okay, that's your opinion. All right. But it was really hard to listen to it.

This is such a hard thing for me to wrestle with. I'm sure you guys have probably every, all of you have thought about this, is like there's a certain amount of I need to engage with the culture and there's a certain amount of like I want to change the culture. You have to find a happy medium between the two. So like Is the hill you're going to die on?

Well, I mean, I can't say I don't even know what I can say here There's a lot of stuff I can't say anymore So yeah, which hill are you going to do? Like I could probably, I would drop I won't But it's a I can't think of a good reason to

I'm a Massachusetts boy It is our sacred word In Massachusetts Where? I lived in Western Mass And then most of my life In Boston for a bit I'm from New Hampshire

So, kind of Kindred spirits So you'll wicket as well. Wicked. That's how I grew up. I grew up. I grew up.

Dude, you're wicked gay right now. Stop it. Wicked fucking gay. Yeah. They can't take those words from us. That's Boston strong, man. Those bombers came in and we're going to take our words away as well.

Anyway. We're definitely like the last ones fight for it for sure. Yeah, we're about that too because you don't want to be like, did anyone hear of like a grandma or grandpa that would still call, they weren't racist, but they would call black people like colored people. Sure. I had a grandma that would say that.

I was too young. I didn't even know. You probably shouldn't say that. She didn't mean anything about it. I wonder sometimes if that's like going to be us. Like our kids will look at us to be like, dad, retarded is not cool. Our kids are going to be too busy cutting off all their body parts to worry about what words were saying. But I think I remember my grandma saying colored and not even thinking it was offensive in any way because I'm pretty sure in like the 80s it wasn't considered offensive. It was getting there.

I don't know exactly when it turned around. Well, because this is the NAACP. Like they were owning it. I think 70s you started not being supposed to say colored. I mean, it's fair. It sounds kind of old school for sure. Yeah. Look at all the style guides for how to address.

Because we went through African Americans was a really good word because it described black people that were the descendants of slaves in the United States. Yes. Because one problem we have today is, I know this guy gets so many emails and so many different types of black people. Like African Americans that are descendants of slaves in the United States that become like politically active get really irritated. when a lot of the people that speak for these movements are black immigrants. And if you're an immigrant from like Nigeria, from Kenya or whatever,

you're coming over, you're probably wealthy, you're usually really educated, and your lived experience is so much different than a descendant of a slave that grew up in like a different place, like an African American. And have a history of suffering. Yeah, exactly, it totally, but like African American became deprecated. And then we use like black Americans. Now I think blacks is actually New York Times staggart,

just black, which sounds racist to me. It's just even weird because we didn't use to say that. Well, you capitalize it, so it's not racist. Yeah, you capitalize to be, yeah, but it's funny. I'm gonna say it softly. You can accidentally call someone black like a little bit too hard. Maybe. Like if you're in a bad mood, like you're ranting about something.

Like, oh, well, which guy is it? The black guy over there. Like, oh, shit. That was about something else. The black guy over there. Yeah, it gets so weird. No, but that is a good point is that, you know, there is no distinction between now black Americans and African Americans because there are

a lot of immigrants who. Well, it's starting because now Democrats are learning that not our brown people are the same. They've learned of their past two election cycles We also learned you can't just put an X at the end To make everybody happy Oh for Latinx or whatever Oh my God You're African X?

That no one cares about that shit Yeah Are you a Desantis ex-believer? What do you mean X believer? Well I just threw in the X but do you believe DeSantis could win? I don't, dude Who the fuck makes any prediction

More than six months out of American politics? I know but there's just Yes I remember even like six months ago It was just like nonstop conversation of like DeSantis can unseat Trump Like this is how it's going to go down. People seem a little bit less confident now. Trump was a funny guy. He won big in his

election. People like winners and people like funny dudes. Regardless of how much cope the Republicans are on, and they might not even know this, it's not fun watching Trump cry over and over and over again about losing the election. If he can just drop that shit and go back to like, what did he call him fucking meatballed Santos or what was he? The sanctimonious. He's got to like, yeah. That's not a good one. He called him a groomer. He's got to keep doing that. That's great. That's hilarious. Yeah, if he can go back to, like, calling people names, doing funny shit like that.

You know, whatever. DeSantis is not funny. I don't think he's funny. Is he funny? No, he's not funny. He can't win. He talks like a nerd. Yeah.

He wears a suit to UFC events and chit chats with the Nelka boys and stuff, though. So he kind of knows how to blend in with me. I'm going to take the porn out of the library. Shut up. It's not funny. Say something funny about it, at least. There's no way Biden doesn't win, right? Like, the election harvesting shit is still happening.

That's like two years. It's like too. Fuck awesome. Also, it's like, it's still like two years in the election. I don't know.

If you want to hear that argument every week, I don't know. Check out the biggest problem in the universe because it comes up every fucking week on the show.

Well, if Biden didn't steal all those fucking ballots. Jelly beans or whatever I have to call them on YouTube. Biden stole all the jelly beans is the going discussion topic. Dan,

so you guys have to do that too because if you didn't know on TikTok, we all have to call ourselves corn stars and you have to unalive yourself. Unalive.

There's a lot of even weirder ones. The graping. Oh my God. I just want to kill myself every time I, I mean, unaligned myself. And there's a lot of conversations of like, okay, is corn emoji, star emoji? Is that being shadow ban now? We don't know. See, these tech companies will just tell us the rules.

Say you can't say these words and if you say them this. But the problem is they don't want us to like subvert them and whatever else. I'm playing games with a fucking rope. Like I hate that my life is dictated by a magic robot programmed by an act. And I go like, can I... They ruined video games for you. They ruined everything. It's...

When I'm trying to title a YouTube video, I'm like, can I say like this guy died? Can I say like... Yeah. Yeah. Almost everything I want to say is something that I probably shouldn't say in a YouTube title. Like, everything we want to talk about is like in some way violent or something offensive. It's horrifying that our lives are being decided.

Again, I don't know who it is. But I think it's these weird activists and these trusted safety committees. I'm sure I don't. insane rules. That was the thing about the Netflix protest that drove me nuts is they go, we don't want to ban Chappelle. We just want you to put, I don't know, five or ten trans people on the

trust and safety team. And I go, I know what you're doing. I get it. Because once you get in there, it's not about stopping Chappelle. It's about stopping the next Chappelle. Like a guy who's up and coming and he's funny and he's making jokes that are real and Ron. You go, he's a little problematic for the network. And you can just, again, you can unalive these people

on social media. I disappeared from Twitter. And you didn't know I was gone. A million other people didn't know I was gone. I blame fucking conservatives. Fuck them. Sure. Go nuts.

They shouldn't have made fun of the arts so much. It fucking pisses me up because what happened is all the schools got taken over by lefties and liberals. All of fucking entertainment, every fucking musician, every fucking artist, every fucking fucking artist, every single community are all liberal. Because all conservatives said all the time was they shit on art. They should on music. They still do. Yeah.

And then they're like, well, I don't know how the schools are taking over those. Because you sit here and said education was a waste of time for fucking, you told everybody an electrician and a plumber. Fuck you. And now, now the conservatives are looking like, fuck. we lost the culture war. You didn't even lose the culture war. You didn't even participate in the culture war.

You just sat and watched it all fucking roll by you. What the fuck? You're like, why don't we own art? And it's like, you told everyone art's gay. All the gay kids went to art school and became the next generation of artists. You'll lose, sir, good day. What's the difference between J.K. Rowling and Scott Adams?

Is it just that one person's statement. That J.K. Rowling is right. Yeah, well, I would generally agree. J.K. Rowling is kind of right. She's kind of right. She's got some good points, but anytime somebody gets that fixated on one thing, you gotta wonder.

But do you think she's that fixated? She doesn't make this many public statements about it, right? You ever meet a libertarian that knows the age of consent in all 50 states? Probably missed her girl. When you meet people like this, you're like, you're not saying anything wrong. It's a little fucking weird that you're so obsessed with this topic.

What is she so fixated on? Just the erasure of women? So if you didn't know this, every single British woman that is a feminist also fucking hates trans people. All of them do. And here's the problem is, initially, J.K. Rolling said crazy shit,

but trans activists online rose to the challenge and started to fulfill all the crazy shit she said. And now her argument seem more legitimate, and then now that all steam. She was right on accident, you mean? Basically, yeah. Because, well, but it's kind of like everybody from Twitter from 2016

where people are like, oh, well, pretty soon, you know, people are going to be kneeling and kissing the boots of black people in the streets while begging forgiveness. Like, no one's going to do this. And then they did. They did. And they did.

I was like, well, fuck me, I guess. I always get people, nobody will ever get a female ID as like a joke to get fun benefits. And I'm like, I went through the DMV the day they put that rule into place and got a female ID. You really? I am now a legal woman in the state of California.

It's just, it gets a little goofy sometimes. And then Biden starts going, I'm going to give tax credits to women. I'm like, I'm going to do it then. Let's line them up. You should go to the DMV and check a box and you get better taxes.

And if you go to prison, you get to lady prison, a lot more fun, I imagine. You really think that they put you in the women's jail? What legal reason would they have to deny me? Would you go for it or would you be like, I'm a legal woman in the state of California, and if they try to deny me, I'll sue their fucking shit. God, imagine if you go to a woman's prison, though, and you can't even get laid in there.

No, it's going to be horrible for me. It's going to be all over. It's going to be all trans guys and ladies. And then I'm going to get it. That's got to be a skin. You're a guy goes through fucking 50 million hoops and he gets in to find that. It's like a 15 minute skin of the final. five seconds is him walking in and it's a whole bunch of fucking meitos.

Time to meet my new cellmate. My name's Bruno. Damn it. Come on. First time. That's pretty crazy because that essentially turns like women's prisons into like a weird sex club meetup zone that you can now sort of enter into if you're clued in enough. Exactly.

If you watch your podcast. Hey man, you got to run the system. Make the system work for you. And if they take my female idea away, I'm okay with that because I don't think I'm supposed to have it. It makes no sense to me that I have it. have it, but the fact that I have the ability to obtain it. Wait, do you have it on you?

Yeah. I'll show you later. Oh, shit. My picture is terrible. Oh, would not enough makeup that day? Yeah, exactly. I went in, like, completely haggard, and I'm like, oh, I really fucked up that picture. You didn't even wear a fucking dress for you didn't even commit to the bitch?

No, I just went in and I went to. Dick would have worn a dress. He would have went in. Why? With a bow and his hair. I can be a goddamn female here. A woman can be whatever she wants to be, death. Have you got pulled over at any point in the last century?

Yeah. Did this and the cops kind of confused? I, I don't know. they kind of gave me a look, but then they're like, eh, he's like, do I want to go viral on TikTok today? This body cam footage is coming out.

Going through TSA, they're kind of like, I don't know anymore. And then they just let you through. I think everybody is just kind of giving up on trying to figure it out. Wow. They're like,

eh, it's an ugly lady, but, you know, what are you going to do? So do you think I'm wrong for, desti, like,

from what I've seen of the JK Rowley thing, I don't really feel like she's anything that offensive. Do you think it's offensive? Do you think it's offensive? Do you think the trans people are right? Okay, here's the issue. J.K. Rowling initially made complaints.

This would all turfy women do it, okay? Trans exclusionary radical feminists. They said that trans women were going to come in, they were going to steal our spaces and make us unsafe. That's what they said. I think five years ago, that was ridiculous to say. Because people weren't advocating for that. Trans people just wanted the right to medical care

that wasn't cosmetic, that was covered by insurance, that could help them live the lives they wanted to live, which is fine. I think it was fine. But then things got a little bit crazy. COVID accelerated everything crazy. And now you've got people saying things like I've seen huge Twitter threads with like 80,000 likes saying the only reason women's sports were invented was because women were kicking the ass of like all the men in sports. I was like, have you ever seen a real man or woman in your entire fucking life?

I've never seen women's sports, but I know that's not true. Yeah, I know, yeah, you get all of these insane posts. You're starting to see more of the like my two-year-old daughter identified as a trans man or whatever. Yeah. You see all these things. She picked up a G.I. Joe and I knew. One of the guys, one of the guys that assaulted us at the Netflix when we found out later, his daughter or son, I don't remember which, was trans.

So that's why it was such an important issue. Remember that? My daughter's pretty into Buzz Lightyear. Is that a problematic thing? You have trans? Yeah. So now like all those turfy arguments seem a little bit more true. No one's going to cut off a little kid's dick.

And now, you know, we're kind of going in that direction. But so you're admitting defeat here? You're saying that she was right about everything? I don't think she was right. You're saying you were temporarily right. She stumbled into the correct answer because people rose to the occasion to prove her correct. Are a lot of your enemies, like, accidentally right? sometimes you find...

You give them five years, I guess they will be right. She was a predictor. She saw the running on the wall. That was my favorite part about the train. You give them an inch? They take a mile. They take several inches. Do you think that the massive success of Hogwarts legacy

is in some way making some trans people? And like the Chappelle thing, I would say, similar, whereas like some people just seem to be getting sick of this whole little scam that they've got us caught up in where they have convinced us that we need to be concerned with offending them all the time? It's promoted all the time on the news.

Like it's always trans this, I'm like, there's no way this is the only news that's going on. It would appear that people aren't really going for it if you look at the Chappelle thing or the Hogwarts legacy thing, right? I think another issue too, I'm going to blame conservatives again, fuck them, is conservatives have no fucking platform in this country anymore besides social issues. You ever notice that? Conservatives aren't talking about the economy or trade or even fucking immigration anymore. All they want to talk about are fucking trans people. I feel like every time a conservative opens his mouth, it's going to be repeating something, J.K. Rawling said, or talking about some trans woman that went in a bathroom or beat up a kid in school or some shit. And it's like, Jesus. So I think that's, I think they drive a lot of the media.

too, because right now they don't have much of an economic platform. It's all social shit. Their platform is becoming the platform of these reactionary YouTubers where they're putting out political ads going, I'm going to de-wokify America. I don't God. I don't want you to care about any of that. Raise the minimum wage. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm going to punish Disney for putting a gay

character in Buzz Lightyear. How does that help me pay my bills, you cocksucker? That's not helpful at all. Political ads have basically become like Tim Pool thumb-mail. Yes. Yes. Dude, I saw one today, and it's like, don't you hate that these woke people are ruining your Star Wars? I'm like, that's my job!

I complain about that. Not you! You should get canceled. I am for cancel culture, and it should be if you ever put the word woke in anything, just get off the internet for like, you get a two-week ban until nobody says woke anymore, or anti-woke or whatever the fuck.

It's killing me. How much blame to trans people deserve for like the whole, this whole concept of like, well, I'm a woman now. Well, what is it then? The problem is that there's two types of trans people, okay? Not being able to drive. Like, tell me what it is. There are two types of trans people.

There are the trans people that are like, actually trans people. And if you meet them in real life, most of them just want to be able to do their shit pass and be left the fuck alone. They cringe when the Leah Thompson shit, or Leah Thomas shit, they cringe when all the weird Twitter shit comes up.

And then you have, like, there's a new breed of trans person. And the new breed of trans person is an 18 to 24 year old woman that has dyed her hair and has a septum piercing and identifies as a non-binary ZZM. And it's like the fastest growing. Like, whenever you see stats that are like

10% of Americans are now trans, it's like 2% are trans and 98% are not. And it's like these types of like college people. But the problem is that, and I've always said this, when you're in college, I think you should be crazy. You should be an activist, you should be out there. Because you're in fucking colleges, you're time to do that. That's fine.

But the problem is now the way that they're expressing that is with transness. And that can't be attacked, right? If you're, you know, back in the 90s or 2000, you have like scene kids, you've got skaters, you've got got got got kids, whatever. You know, listen. Make fun of them all the time. Yeah, it's a phase, you'll grow out of it,

like you're goof, whatever. You can't see it in 19, you're like, oh, you, you're non-binary, like, you'll figure your shit out in four years. You can't say that because now it's horrible. And the worst thing ever is we gave kids too much fucking power because now a 20-year-old, no offense, thinks their opinion matters by going on fucking social media and giving life advice and activist advice to the fucking world by telling everybody how everything should be. Yeah, but it still goes back to the, like, what is his name, the porn star?

I forget which one it is. Buck Angel? We love Buck Angel, yeah. We had him on a while about he's fucking amazing. I think, I don't want to mischaracterize what he says, but it all goes. goes back to this like, well, you can't tell me I'm not a woman question, right? Like that is the, that is the seems to be the core, uh, the core problem with everybody involved in this, which is as soon as I'm, as soon as I have that identity, I can go to the bathroom. I can do

all kinds of this other shit that we, that biological women or whatever the fuck. Because there's no difference. They say there's no difference. And then everybody on their side, like even the people in the middle of this controversy, very few of them will say, well, there's a difference. Do you know what I mean? Well, some of them now have gaslit themselves and going, you're right, there is no difference. Exactly. We only split up sports because the women are women. Yes.

But the problem is that you get, again, this is one of those things where you get horrible engagement from both sides. People on the left are pushing this idea of self-ID. If you say you're a woman, you're a woman, that's ridiculous. Like me. Nobody fucking views it that way. You don't do that way. That's so stupid.

Okay. But the problem on the right is the people go like, oh, well, like, a woman is like a biological female. And it's like, realistic. these concepts mean more than that, right? Because you see somebody and you assume they're a woman, but you've never looked at their chromosomes. You've ever touched their vagina, right?

And then especially when conservatives make appeals where it's like, you should go to the bathroom that you're biologically sexton. Bullshit. You would fucking kill yourself if you made a law that said that Buck Angel was going to be in a stall next to your little daughter. You would go crazy.

Or if you said that Blair White was going into the men's bathroom. You wouldn't accept that, obviously, right? Wait a minute. Wait, why wouldn't I accept either of those things? Because conservative... Because you'd see, like, oh, that's a good, what is that creeped going into the women's room for? Yeah.

When it comes to, like, topics of gender and sex, it's a really complicated way that we, like, diagnose and analyze people or whatever. But when I'm sitting there having a conversation the other day with Buck Angel and Blair White, and the version of, like, being a trans person that they embrace is basically one that I feel like almost every American could agree on in the sense that, like, Blair White wants to use the women's bathroom,

but she's not going to be naked and having people see her penis in the locker room at the gym. She thinks that that would be inappropriate, which to me, obviously, is, like, if you want to pass as a trans woman and not be given a hard time or anything, you're not going to be fucking displaying your penis in public. And the people that you see doing that, which it's funny when you sit there and do podcasts with trans people, because you realize how much, like, image matters to them because they're talking about the we spot incident as if it's the biggest fucking scam ever because this woman is basically looking like fucking veto and not trying to pass as a woman at all. And it's just fucking ridiculous to somebody like fucking buck or. or Blair White, who's like fully committed to portraying the gender that they identify house. That's a big question is, okay, for Buck Angel and Blair White,

it's very easy because they pass. Right. I go, yeah, that's pretty much a guy. But they put in a lot of work to get there. They did. But then you have a lot of trans people who go, I'm non-binary. I got a big old beard, and I put on some mascara.

Yeah, but again, that's where you run into the issue. So there's a term that separates those two groups of people that I talked about before. Some people get really noticed sense, but there's a term called gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria means you have an extreme discomfort with the way that you present versus the way that you feel inside.

In my opinion, you don't have gender dysphoria, you're not a trans person. Because typically people that have disorder will seek to alleviate it by passing as the gender that they internally identify as. But the weird thing that you run into is you'll get these trans women

or trans men that'll be like, oh yeah, I'm trans, but I don't care about passing. In fact, I think a woman can be anything. I was like, well, if a woman can be anything, why the fuck are you trans in? Right, what is the difference? Yeah, what the fuck are you even saying at that point? Because you'll get people arguing

for male lesbians or you'll get people arguing for like trans mask, femi people or whatever. And it's like at some point, you're just talking about like your identity. Like you're not really talking about like gender at all. You're just kind of talking about your aesthetic. And it gets really stupid that it all falls into the umbrella of trans. That's the craziest thing or like the hardest thing to parse from the trans community is they'll tell you a million things a trans person doesn't have to be.

They'll go, a woman doesn't have to have a vagina. A woman doesn't have to have breast. She doesn't have to have this, this and this. And I go, okay, I got the list. I got the list. I got the list of everything a woman doesn't have to have. tell me something a woman does have to have. Right.

Give me some way to delineate. What is the difference between a man and a woman? And they go, uh, you know, it's just like what you feel, man. And then that's when you have to back up and then you ask the macro question. Like, well, what the fuck are you arguing? If you're telling me that there's no difference

between a biological woman and a trans woman or cis woman or trans? Then why the fuck are so many retarded fucking trans people killing themselves? Why not just something? Hold on. Don't kill yourself. There's no difference.

Yes, exactly. Why are you suicidal, you dumb fuck? There's no difference. You're already a woman. Yeah, you're a woman. Or a man. Whatever you want. Yes, it drives me not.

But actual trans people clearly don't feel that way. No. They have, they know there's a difference. They know they have a difference that they've defined for themselves. When you ask them, okay, we'll define it. What is it? Is it what you wear?

Is it what you wear? But if you ask one of those trans people with dysphoria, because I've talked of a ton of them, they will give you answers. They'll have an answer. They'll say that like a woman's body, the silhouette looks different than a male's body.

That when I've been on estrogen or whatever, drug time for a while, my skin feels different. Like, I have a different, I have a different emotional foundation with the hormones going to their brain. Like, they'll give you a lot of answers for what makes them feel more feminine versus what makes them feel more masculine. But when you talk to, like, the non-binarys that are, they're like, oh, I believe in gender abolition and none of it makes sense.

And, yeah, I identify as different pronouns depending on my mood. And it's like, okay, well, fuck you then. I believe in gender abolition just so far as, yeah, let's just take it to the logical extreme and see what happens, because I don't think anybody's going to be happy about it. Well, how much of this is just driven by over-regulation? Like, why do we have or have to have to have? this conversation at all because like because of the law because it comes down to a matter of like legally can you know should a woman be allowed to should it should lebron james be allowed to play in the w nba as a matter

of like let's just get rid of the w nba then problem solved everyone will be happy taking it to its logical extreme it's like okay let's abolish all women's spaces and see how everybody feels about it is it title nine related is that why we have to do this yeah probably whenever i hear anybody arguing that the w nb a should get paid more i think that abolition is probably a pretty good idea yeah you can pay them not to I think they should get paid less. Jesus. A lot of less. What?

What are you going to say? Well, that's mean. I think they should get paid whatever they're worth. I think people just want communities to fit in. And now, like, trans is kind of the new thing for a lot of kids. Because, like, a lot of kids probably feel, like, pretty atomized is just the term. We're all, like, pretty separated out. And, like, the Internet is kind of, like, fundamentally altered the composition of the world in our lives.

And people are just looking for places to join. Yes, which is why we need to bring back goth kids. Full force. We need goth kids to make a return. If you're in a band right now, become a goth band. inspire kids. Give them a subculture where they can feel weird

and floaty and artistic wear stupid clothes and paint their fucking nails and not have to make weird decisions about gender and put themselves on hormones. And everyone can hate them. Yeah,

and then everybody can hate on them because all those fucking goth kids they're stupid, whatever. But when's the last time you even saw a godgit? That's the problem. Whenever I go to the mall, I always kind of figure I'm going to see like one

goth kid at least and it just never happened. The subculture? Was there a last one? Was there a last goth on earth and said, what the hell? I don't know, but when I would go to the fucking mall on a Friday night when I was in junior high,

it was like a straight up like goth club. There was so many teenage gotts just hanging out outside the hot topic. Kids with too many buckles. This is a good old day. The old duck pants with all the pockets. Yeah. I remember always seeing those pants being like, someday I'm going to have the pants with too many pockets. And then I just never, as a fat kid, you can't do gof.

Yeah, you can do whatever you want. The fat goth is the worst goth. There's a lot of kids. Everyone knew it. Goth as a way to not have to lose weight. Yes. Like wear a bunch of cool goth outfits that are kind of dripping off your body. But the skinny goth kids, you're always like, yeah, like a fucking vampire.

And then you'd see the fat guy kid. You're like, what are you doing? What is this? It didn't work. I couldn't do it. It's my one regret in life. That you didn't have a goth face? Yeah, that I didn't get to, you know.

There's no way you only have one regret in life. Okay, well, of my many, many regrets in life. What's your gayest subculture thing that you ever did in your life? What's the gayest thing I ever did? Like, I went to a scotch show one time and I was skanking. Oh, subculture related? hands out to me as maybe being near the top. It's pretty good.

Skanking is pretty bad. I loved the Scott shows. Probably the furry filling my balls with saline. Yeah, you let a furry fill your balls. He's like, don't you want to do it? It's a needle around your dick. I'm like, well, it's funnier if you do. I think Scott was just too happy to last.

They had a lot of fun. It doesn't really, it kind of made sense in the 90s, but even like going into the 2000s, it was just too positive. When did Scott get away from us? was that like the mighty mighty boss tones they were like a pretty cool version of it real big fish were pretty gay at a certain point

I think real big fish might have been the turning point because that was kind of like the mainstream the closest sky got the main street no because no doubt had a huge effect on it because after no doubt the labels started signing all these fucking scob bands and trying to turn them into pop acts and I bet that that kind of had a negative impact on it

Scott just wasn't edgy enough but if you go back to like the specials and like London and shit all this like where it really came from. That shit was really like cool and badass. They all dressed like early they had intense lyrics. The music would just be like it's like my dad fucking killed himself. And you're like well you can't do both. You got to pick a lane. I had a lot of like scow bands in my high school that like stopped being bands as soon as high school was over. I don't think a lot of them like survived.

No, didn't make it through. Because it's like if you have a subculture that's made up entirely of normies then at some point they're just going to go about doing their normal their normie adult things whereas a lot of punks and like hip hop kids and stuff they kind of are dedicated to it well part of the appeal of a subcultures you want to be you know you're rebelling against something you're different from the mainstream you're out there and i think that is blue hair yeah well i'm not going to knock him that's good on it uh what do you call it but that's i think why we got into this meshing of all the kids are like oh i'm queer i'm non-binary whatever is like not only you're part of a subculture but like you're a victim that like fucking you can fight on

the streets man for your rights to be gay and wave a flag and whatever else. It's fun. You go to a protest, meet some friends, got your dicks off, do whatever you want. Everybody wants to be a victim of some sort, because victims are afforded the most interest. Especially middle class kids. Yeah.

Kids are really. You don't have anything to complain about? It's like the worst thing in the fucking world. It's really hard for like boring white kids to accept, I'm just kind of a boring white kid. I accepted it. I haven't fallen with it, whatever. But like most kids are like, no, I'm special.

I'm different, man. I have like an identity that people don't. It's like, yeah, I know. But like, you don't really. come on. And that's why the kids gravitate towards it because they want to be able... I remember one guy, I knew a guy.

Worst guy ever worked at the DVD store. He was a complete dick to everybody. He just wanted to rent some Simpsons DVDs. There's always a dick about it. And one day they go, hey, that guy's trans now. And I go, oh, now he has like a million more things to complain about it. I totally understand why he wants to be...

Because he would complain about fucking... And now he can complain society is systemically keeping me down, man, as a woman. And I'm like, absolutely... I get why it appeals to you. And I meet a lot of trans people who I go, you were a very you're a very dissatisfied young man

and now you're extremely dissatisfied. How many trans people are you actually meeting? Because I feel like even I'm still kind of limited. If I wasn't going on my way to meet trans people, I'd probably would be pretty low. Well, there was that one fucking survey where Americans were asked

what percentage of the population do you think is trans? Wasn't on an average between Republicans and Democrats? Like 27% of the population? Did they say that high? Yeah, I was like, oh my fucking God. Why do you think this? Jesus.

Where are they? It reminded me of that when Matt Walsh was on Joe Rogan. Oh, yeah. What was the... How many children do you think are puberty blocks? He's like, I don't know, millions. Didn't you just do a whole documentary on the millions of kids? You don't think we would hear about that?

No offense to you, antivax, because I know you all are. But that's like when the anti-vax is like, oh yeah, like there's all these like billions of people are having complications. Then why is it that I only see the two same kids on Project Veritas that are having a vaccine fucking side of this? Trump rescued millions of kids from the tunnels beneath New York City. Jesus. All right. There were millions of kids being trafficked and he rescued them for the mole people. Thank you, Trump.

I don't know where they went. Maybe he'd turned him into NFTs. Yeah, I hope so. We should turn this podcast into an NFT. We should. All the best images. Mint it. Yeah, where's the No Jumper?

I'm going to lie, or I'm not going to lie. I almost wanted to do a crypto scam. I thought about it. Where's your crypto scam? I thought about it when I first started learning about NFTs, and I'm glad that I didn't do it because it definitely would have blended in with every other, like, scammy NFT. And there's, I don't think there's any way.

that I ever would have been able to, like, turn it into something that maintained. No, I'm talking about just doing a scam, yeah. Oh, just do a straight-up scam where that's a plan all along. That's what it feels like most of them are, yeah. I had a great crypto scam planned. I was going to make a bunch of fake banksy's around L.A. with a QR code next to them, like, buy this fucking Banksy. But then you have to actually come up with an idea that's good enough that it seems like it would actually be a banksy.

Dude, there's a homeless guy, but someone's putting a Bitcoin in his hat. Oh, my, what does that mean for the future of society? Like, it's the easiest shit in the world. Come on. What's you going to do with a loser? Yeah, I know. I kind of regret that I wasn't able to get a crypto scammer, or at least doing like a bunch of promotion

for other people's scams early on. Because if you did it early on and you weren't like at the top of your field, nobody's going to remember. But if you're like Lana Rhodes and you're like the number one porn star, if you're like, I don't know what rappers got hit. I don't know if any of them really faced consequences, but like Logan Paul obviously.

He's like kind of the biggest, And the span of 24 hours, he was like, Coffeezilla, I'm gonna fucking sue your ass, and I just want you to know that I'm really sorry about what I said, I'm not gonna see here. It was like a 24-hour period. He dropped a fucking aggressive-ass video, and people hated it so much

that he did a complete about-face immediately. I trust in Logan Paul. My hatchables are gonna be worth billions. Have you seen the hatching little animals? The board ape yacht clubs, like they're actually racist breakdown? Have you guys... Do you believe that shit?

Stop retweeting that. I am. That's so bullshit. A hundred percent true. I fought with that guy. That guy's an idiot. The board apes are not racist. One of the guys who keeps posting,

well, actually, if you look at this helmet, it's the same as a German Piff helmet from 1845. And in 1845, the Germans did this. And I'm like, it's a fucking monkey in a helmet. People did that with the Harry Potter shit where they were like, the goblins have a flute player, and that loot is the same type of the year.

It's a magic Jewish flute. And that was the same when fucking crystal knock, yeah, Jesus Christ. I'm playing how it's, legacy and I'm like, I'm exploding that Jew. I'm setting that Jew on fire. Like, this is the most anti-Semitic fun time I've ever played. The one monkey has a jumpsuit. Did you see about that though? What's the number? Is it a racist jumpsuit? I don't know. It's a prison jump suit. It's got a number of somebody. They're all secret. Who has the time to sit down and come up with

coded racist messages for every fucking monkey? It's a way, it's stupid. That too, yeah, because I always ask like, can you imagine what the fuck the boardroom looks like that you're envisioning right now? Like, Okay, listen up, fellow artists. We're all Nazis. We're all Nazis. So let's get that artist working in a fucking video game. We're all Nazis, of course, because this is a Nazi industry, right? Yes.

Okay, we want to communicate that we're Nazis, but like, what is the most subtle mind-fucky way we could do it? Well, in 1878... We've all heard of this, by the way. The Jewish, yeah, flute player Goldenstein had a special instrument. We're going to give that to one of the goblins, and we're going to give him the longest nose of it. Oh, that's going to show those Jews!

Like, what do you think the fucking conversations are like, what people are hiding on? All these fuck, yeah, it's so insane to me. It's like, oh, my God. Conspiracy theorists want the world to be far more interesting than it actually is. And you're reading the article feeling kind of like out of touch because you don't know about any insignia that the Nazis were using to no demonstrate this.

Apparently the Nazis. Give it another look. I was just like you. When at first launch, I was like, this is, this is obvious bullshit. What the road? The apes. Yes, the apes. They're absolute bullshit.

It's a giant Nazi troll. And they got every celebrity to retweet it. I'll give you any. All right. So I was fighting. It's the best. It's like a million pages long because the guy who thinks the racist is insane.

At one point he goes, well, these monkeys are wearing these helmets from Venture Brothers. And Venture Brothers had an episode where Hitler was reincarnated as a dog. So that's related to Hitler. And I went,

those are the helmets from Easy Rider. The Venture Brothers wore them as a referenced Easy Rider. Yeah. So the monkeys are also a reference to Easy Rider. They're not a reference to the Venture Brothers. Not that part. Leave that one out.

Okay. Well, he's wrong on a lot of them. Only read the good evidence that I'm talking about. I thought about adding 88 at the end of all of my usernames. Because I'm born in 1988 and I'm going to say

oh, that's my birthday. When I was a kid in like 1998 there are these fucking pedals and this sprocket that this one company DK made, you can go Google it and they were called the Iron Cross pedals

and the Iron Cross Sprocket and almost like half the kids I know I knew at the time had these fucking bike parts on and it didn't occur to any of us that there was anything racist about it and if it was out now

it would be like a national And we had these cool spinners on our wheels. It was this weird, like, kind of an L and another L. I must have been a fucking retard in high school history. I learned the swastika. Yeah. That's the only Nazi shit. I think there was one other symbol,

but now I feel like the Nazis have this whole catalog of art where they have like 750 different types of lightning bolts. They have an eagle. They have an eagle. If you would have put that in American Quarter, I would have thought that was a normal fucking U.S. currency. No, no. Oh, my God.

Remember, as they told Trump. You can see him all in Ukraine. They told Trump, well, that's a non-examble. Nazi Eagle because the head is facing right and you're like, shut the fuck up. You don't know anything about Nazi Eagles. That one's bogus. Do you think the Nazis just had really, really great taste in badass imagery? Yes. Yes. They're still German. But do you think we now view it as badass because it was associated with something so violent and terrible? It was absolutely cool. You look at that shit and you go, that just had an eye for it. Yeah, because the average military is not going to be putting

like these cool skull designs and shit on their their apparel. There were these two British comedians to do like sketches. Mitchelin Webb. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about, right? Are we the baddies? Yeah, because they've got uniforms and it's like a skull and fucking like we've got like desecrated like flayed men like badges and it's like, are we the bad guys? Yeah, and his buddy goes, well we got skulls on our hats. I think we're the bad guys. He goes well, those are the skulls of our enemies. He's like yeah, but it doesn't

say that on the hat. You know, it just kind of looks like we're assholes with skulls on our hat. That's one of the best that gets from those fucking guys. I'm gonna piss my fucking pants if I don't get out of here. I'm gonna hear you. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Destiny. We'll be back tomorrow with Richard Spencer. Are you going to have an actual debate then? Well, apparently, Spencer's like a fucking liberal now, so I don't know.

I feel like they're going to agree on everything, and it's going to be weird, but I'm going to try to figure out if he's racist or not. I feel like I got to at least do some racist talk because I couldn't find any black people who wanted to actually talk to this fucking guy. Oh. How hard did you look? I was like two. We can find some black people. Don't forget to check out the biggest problem in the universe with me and Dick Masterson at biggest problem. We do a weekly show every Friday.

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