No Jumper - DJ Flippp on Having Tourette Syndrome, NBA Youngboy Kicking Him Out The Studio & More

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Flakko sits down with DJ Flipp to talk about his music, ventures, NBA YoungBoy, Sauce Walka, ProdbyZaqq and more!  ------ 00:00 Intro 5:08 Flippp on coming from Ecuador and his father starting a seafood business 7:30 Flippp not knowing he has an older brother and never meeting the 8:30 Flakko’s family hitting him up for money and asks Flipp if that happens to him 10:50 Flippp getting a DJ set at an early age and DJing house parties 13:25 Flippp first discovered Bone Thugs-N-Harmony and Tupac and DJing in clubs at 13 years old 19:35 Flakko asks Flippp what were his goals with music at the time and wanting to DJ for the New Boyz 21:40 Flippp on fighting the promoters at the club for not paying him 24:00 Flakko not knowing what “ese” means, says Swifty Blue looks like a GTA character 30:00 Flippp talks about his Tourettes syndrome at a young age and how he can control it 32:46 Flakko on his stutter and if smoking weed would help him or make him more paranoid 38:30 Flakko asks Flippp how producers make money through selling beats 39:50 Flippp on how he started working more and more with artists 42:00 Flippp being critical of those that send him beats and getting kicked out of the studio by NBA YoungBoy 46:02 Flakko asks about handling trash artists and working with Sauce Walka 49:38 Flippp on creating the 808 Cartel for his production group 53:35 Flakko mentions ProdbyZaqq and beefing with Flippp 56:22 What's next for Dj Flippp and goals of becoming an A&R ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world, and we're back again with DJ Flip. How are you? I'm great, bro. How are you? Yo, you came iced out? No. Jordan's on? Yeah, man, I just copped these, bro.

I need her to fit for it right now, though. I don't be dripping out like you think I do, bro. Nah? Hell no, bro. I'm not a drip guy, though. I just get ready for, like, special occasions and shit. You know what I'm saying? I'd be in the career, bro.

You came this fly for probably the non-flyist guy in his office? Bro, it's because I had to, bro. I was like, man, I ain't going to just pull up. Like, I don't know, I'm going to just, you know, throw the J's on. Man. Yo, you're listening to, but be real, bro. Like, by now you're rich. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But how rich are you? I'm not super rich, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But I have built a company that's made more over a million dollars, bro. You know what I'm saying, dog? And that's, my company's made millions, bro. You know what I'm saying?

So I just, I'm not a fucking multimillionaire, though. You know what I'm saying? Just being 100. You listen, man, I feel like you're being modest. Because you know LA streets is different, man. Feel me, right? Yeah. Right.

So, listen, I am not a multi-dain. I ain't got shit. I'm not a multi-needed. I'm not a lot of nothing. Yo, keep the wolves away, bro. Nah, bro. So you're actually from Palmdale? Palmdale, California, brother.

The desert. Yo. Yo, has L.A. ever been this bad? I don't know, because I'm not from L.A. and I never go to L.A. Oh, you don't go to LA Nah, there's no need for me to Hold up

Wait, wait, that's crazy My music is there I don't gotta go there Wait, so then like Like where do you frequent it Well, not the actual spots Because that's federal, but you know I'd be by like six flags and shit

You feel me, I'd be out there, dog Yo, I never been there Yeah, I'd be, I'd be up I'd be out the way, bro I don't, I got five kids, bro I got a family I don't be going out to places I don't, I used to go to L.A.

a lot back in the day when I used to network a lot and I just go to the clubs and shit and go DJ the clubs and network and meet all the promoters and artists celebrities and all that I don't do none of that shit no more I haven't gone now in years bro yeah speaking of five kids I just seen you were super happy about finally getting your son man bro I just had a boy dog after four daughters after four daughters four daughters bro yo I know for a fact that there was a point in time where you was like you all might I never get a son you know because for a fact I think that every day dog I never think I don't have a son ever, dog.

How does that change to, though? Man, bro, seeing his little face, I'm like, I just can't believe it. I know. It's crazy because all my daughters look like me. Really? And my son looked like his mom, bro. Oh, really?

I'm like, damn, I thought he was going to be like a little mini-mear or something. Yeah, it looked just like his mom, dog. Oh, wow. He just, I don't know. He's cute, though, bro. I fucking love him. And she's, she's also Hispanic? Yeah, she's Hispanic.

Like. He's mixed, bro. She's Guatemalian and stuff, Mexican. Is she like you're Hispanic? Because like you're white passing. So is she like your Hispanic or? No, she's a little browner than me. She's a little browner.

Yeah, she's a little darker, but yeah, she's like me. We speak fluent Spanish. That was the first language I spoke. Flu in Spanish. Yeah, I'm just fluent Spanish. Yeah, listen. I know how much. How much.

For favor. For a while. Buenas no chas. Buenos nights. You know, I am fabulosa. Come on, man. You can around, bro. You've been to TJ?

No. Oh yeah, you got to go out there, but I just went to Rosarito, bro. That shit was... Wait, hold on. What's TJ? Tijuana, Mexico. Yo, I heard an interesting story. Yeah.

About that. I heard that, like, there's certain people. I think San Diego is near there, right? Yeah, it's right. The border of San Diego and Tijuana. Yeah. To La Vista, boom, right there. There are Uber drivers who run up the bag, right?

Right, right? Like, so they're U.S. citizen, I think. So they would work here through, like, Uber, and she like that and then just live in Tijuana. Tijuana. Yeah. Yo. Bro, it's because...

Way cheaper, yeah. But she's starting to get expensive out there, too. Don't get me wrong, but I went to Rosarito and the shit was fucking expensive, bro. Really? I was like, damn, I thought I was going to get a taco for like 50 cents or something. She was like $3. Really? God damn, it's because they know Americans go there.

It's like a tourist spot. So I guess you got to go like in the cut, like in the deep part of Mexico to get like the real cheap shit. But like Rosarito, Tijuana, those are like every American people. be out there. You run into Americans all day out there. I'm telling you, you listen, man. It's because the white folks found a hack, right? You feel me? Bro, they can't let y'all have nothing out there, bro. You feel

me? Yeah. But where are you from? Like ethnicity? No, no, no, no. Like born? Born? I was born in Mission Hills. Oh, wait. Where's that? Listen, I don't know where in California. 15 minutes from here.

Fifteen minutes from here. Yeah. And they all moved to Palmdale where you was 10? Yeah, so my mom, yeah, I was born in Mission Hills, and I believe we were living in the valley, like Pequima and then Panorama City. We were just moving around, bro, when I was a kid. I don't really remember. Yeah. But then I remember moving to Palmdale when I was like six, bro.

Five or six. I really grew up in Palmdale. Wow. Yeah, that's where I'm from from, bro. Yeah. I think your pops was an entrepreneur. So how was the early life that was you guys, I guess, well-off, just, you know, poor middle class? It was middle class.

Yeah. Middle class. Yeah. My dad, you know, he came from Ecuador. He was homeless out here. He never did drugs, never drank. And he just built a, he built a big-ass company for himself, bro. A seafood company.

A seafood company. Yeah, he'd buy and sell seafood and he would export and import seafood from other countries and shit to America. And he's like, he had big contracts with big companies. And he just, it's just crazy, bro. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. Now, that's kind of crazy, though. He's doing it.

Wait, wait, wait, here. So, so, like, he would just. Okay, so he would. and import it in and then just sell it to like restaurants and stuff like that? Yeah, he'd import it. So he'd get it from different countries, bring it into the States, or he'd buy it and sell it from other people, benefits and stuff. So he'd get it from the low, sell for the high.

And that's how he was like a middleman, bro. He's crazy. He's just buy and sell, bro. Wow. He built the whole company like that. And then, like, once he started that, though, like, I guess I did y'all quality of life, like start to increase steadily then? Way better, bro.

He got enough money, he bought us a house in Palmdale. and then, you know, we were in a big house. He had a bunch of kids. My dad, you know, I got six sisters. Six sisters. Six older sisters. I'm the youngest. I'm the only boy.

Well, I have an older brother I never met, so I don't really count that. My dad has like three or four baby moms, bro. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Pause for a minute, though. Now, I'm expecting, like, that behavior, you know, like, from us, you know, Africans, right? Because we are notorious for, like, 20 kids, not even. So you actually, so your dad actually has like three million mamas. Well, my dad's grandpa's fully black, bro.

Really? Yeah, he darkening you, dog. So you're, like, like a quarter black then? Or 20%? I guess. I don't know. I wouldn't, well, when you go to Ecuador, you see black people everywhere. They all speak Spanish.

It's normal, bro. So I feel like we all relate, you know what I'm saying? It's like the same kind of food, too. Like African food and Ecuadorian food. It's all kind of the same shit. I feel like we're all kind of the same. you, listen, like, that's a fact, right? Yeah.

But your older brother, why haven't y'all met? Like, what's going on? I didn't know he existed to like six years ago, bro. Oh, really? Yeah. Now, like, how do he... He's like 12 years older than me, too, 11 years older. And he's like 40-something, 41, 42 or something like that.

And how did that happen, though? Like, did he, like, call you or something and say, yo, hey, you know, I'm your brother type of shit? My mom showed me him on Facebook. She said, this is your brother. My mom's known about him forever. She never told us. He told us nothing.

My dad never mentioned him once. He just took care of them. Ah. Okay, he's a good dude then. And he took care of them still, you for me? Yeah, he'd make sure they was right, bro. Yeah. Like, he'd always make sure they had gifts for Christmas.

They were good, like, because they were in a poor country. They're from Ecuador. They all live in Ecuador. Oh, really? Yeah, that's why I never met him. Ah. Yeah, he had other kids in Ecuador. Yeah.

You know, I have three older sisters that were born in Ecuador that I'm very close with. And then I have a brother I never met that was born out there as well. So he's still out there. English. Yo, listen though, right? Yeah. But, like, having siblings in a thorough country, because I have to deal with, like, this shit as well, right? My phone don't

stop ringing, bro. Like, every little issue, bro. Like, it's me they're calling for some money, bro. Yeah. Isn't it like that for, like, you as well? Like, where, like, you got siblings who are consistently giving you a call for money? Um, some

sometimes, bro. Um, honestly, sometimes, It's happened a couple times, but it doesn't really happen frequently, bro. Like, I'm just the type to, like, reach out. Like, to, like, my aunt or something, I just send her money, dog. Like, just hook her up, you know what I'm saying? Just show love to them.

I don't know. I feel like I got my dad's heart, bro. You are a way better guy, guy than me, bro, because I straight up, bro, be blocking numbers. Don't pick up no phone. Yo, bro, that's just annoying, you know? Like, right? Like, it's annoying. Yeah, when people would call you for that reason, I can imagine.

Yeah, I haven't really had that happen to me to me. No, no, bro. A lot of my family, they're good, bro. Like my sister, for example, like my mom's straight. I take care of my mom and me and my sisters. We all take care of her. And then my other sisters got like, they got their degrees. They got their money.

They're making a couple hundred thousand a year. You know what I'm saying? Oh, they're straight. My other sister's P. Diddy chef. Oh, man. Will Smith, chef, P. Diddy. She cooked for like all these football teams. She doing her thing.

Fucking, my cousins and uncles in Ecuador, or they own banks and shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? They're doing their thing. I don't ask them for me. They don't ask me for me. God damn. You just like...

The whole family is like eating in. Yeah, they all hustlers. They all entrepreneurs. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they all got out the mud, though. You know what I'm saying? They all be grinding, bro. You know, that's crazy.

Everyone in my family has their own business, bro. Wait. So, like, who's responsible for that then, like, in terms of, like, instilling those values into y'all, bro. Because a family where mostly everybody is up and winning and doing good, that's rare, bro. Honestly, I don't know who's responsible for it. I think, I think this shit,

that's just the way shit was, bro. Yeah. meant to be. That's man, yo, bro, that's a great thing. I'm grateful to have a family like this. And because if something ever happened to me, and I needed something, like for show, my family will be there for me, vice versa.

You know what I'm saying? Yo, that's so lit, man. That's so lit, bro. Here, so now, when did DJ flip discover his love for hip hopped in? Oh, bro, I've been, since I was a fucking kid, bro. Like, when I was, my dad bought me a DJ system. When I was like 10 years old. Oh, wow.

Early. Yeah, little early, bro. He bought it so I can play music for like the family parties. And then those family parties ended up turning into like house parties because my older sisters were like, they were teenagers and shit. And they just started bringing their friends. I just started turning into house parties. And next thing you know, I'm DJing all the parties at my house with this DJ

equipment. I just like, I just fell in love with this shit, bro. And the like I remember this one night, bro, when I first like really touched the DJ set up, like for the first time at a party was in my house, there was like 200 people there were in the fucking living room. That shit was lit. I remember that one song by Ludacris

came on that, that move, bitch, get out the way. You know, everyone used to fucking see much. Yeah, I was a young-ass kid. I think I was like 12. I don't know how old I was. That's my bro right there. I was young. So I remember I played that.

And the whole party was just like, move, bitch, get out of the way. It was screaming. And I was right there on the DJ. And everyone was like, yeah, like you're going crazy. Like, I turned the party up with that song, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to Ludacris. And ever since then.

That's a crazy adrenaline rush there, right? Ever since then I fell in love, bro. I'm like, I got a DJ every day. And I just lock myself in the room every day. I didn't go out. I didn't play with my friends. I didn't do, I would just lock myself in the room all day. Like, if my friends wanted to hang out, they'd come to my house and they just

watch me fucking scratch all day, bro, yeah. Oh, wait, right? Like, well, first of all, like, that's what's first to know, right? Because there's a lot of niggas here with the DGas. with the DJ titles, they ain't never like... Touch no vinyl. Yeah, they ain't never DJ a day in their F in life, man. Right?

No, right. But for me is like when I discovered hip hop was Drake. So this was 2000 and probably... What? Yeah, I discovered hip hop through probably Drake. Like, right? So, like, I'm 24. So, like, the first time, time that, like, I could actually go on iTunes and, you know,

actually find music and purchase it was, like, 2000. and like eight right right and nine is that's what like when like there was this thing called like a green dot card and you can like buy it and like it comes with actually like like like funds like on the card right right like so like we didn't need like actually like bank cards or debit cards we could just have like like you know a prepaid green dot card so i would use that to buy Drake's like you know like songs the albums and shit so that was when like i finally first like discovered music was through Drake. So who was like your first like yo I love this nigga like this was my favorite artist. My favorite artist, I would say growing up because my sister used to listen to a lot of underground

hip hop. Yeah. And my cousin, like my, so my family, my house, let me go backwards a little bit. My house was full of family. I had my older cousins living there. My uncles. No while. Everybody was my dad used to take care of everyone. Like no one had money. So he'd take care of My aunts, everyone would just live in my house. I grew up with a fucking packed ass house. You know what I'm saying? So my older cousin, Mani, he used to always slap Bone Thugs in Harmony. Both of Thubok.

Eminem. And I'm not like gangster shit too, bro. So I kind of grew up on like Dr. Dre, like the chronic, you know, 2001 album, you know, from Dr. Dre. I grew up on Eminem, Bone Thugs in Harmony. That's kind of like the shit that I, that captured me right there. Bone Thugs and Harmony. Yeah.

Yo, it's kind of crazy, right? Because, like, I feel like that error, like, it's lost, right? Like, because people kind of... Still listen to that shit. Really? Hell, yeah. Every day. So, question, right, what do you think about, I guess, them people credit, like, the melodic sound, right?

To, like, let's say, like, a Jaru or to, like, a Drake. And they kind of, like, forget the Nate dogs, the bone thugs and harmony. Like, do you feel like, those guys deserve more credit for ushering in that rap and singing stuff? You're talking about Jaru? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, do you feel like bone thugs and harmony in them? Like, they deserve, like, way more credit for, I guess, ushering in that, like, rap and singing stuff.

I feel like they already got their credit. Like, they're the, they made a stamp already. Yeah. They already, you know, I feel like that time has already passed. Yeah. You know, they accepted that they were the shit at one point, bro. And they still are the shit to a lot of people. I'm a die-hard fan, bro.

So, to me, they're the shit still. And there's a lot of people like me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think Tupac is the shit still. M&M is the shit still. still, there's a lot of people that are still fans like me, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know, I feel like they got the credit they deserve, you know what I'm saying?

To me at least. Because to me they do, you know what I'm saying? Yo, listen, like, that's facts too, right? Right? You know, because, like, because my generation, like, we kind of forget that era a bunch, you feel me? Yeah. But at 10 years old, you started DJing God obsessed with it, right?

When did you, like, like, you know, evolved from, like, doing. doing DJing at your personal house parties to two, not taking it out and doing actual parties like outside of the homes and shit? When I was, so I was like, I've always been an impatient person, but you know what I'm saying? So I've always, I'm like, damn, I want to DJ a club. I'm like, I'm like 12 years old. I'm like, I want to DJ a fucking club.

A club? Yeah, I want to DJ clubs. Like I used to see like DJs like DJing clubs on YouTube and I'll just be like, damn, I want to do this shit, you know what I'm saying? So at a young age, bro, I just started like. Like, like, don't do this if you're watching this if you're fucking, I should steal my mom's fucking car. Still my parents car at night, 12 o'clock at night.

They had knocked out, walk in their room, take the keys out and fucking go to the local club. I was like 12, 13. Oh, man. Bro, I drive to the local club, dog, and try to fucking network. And then I eventually got myself in. And next thing you know, I'm 13 years old, DJing every fucking club in my city, dog. And then after I kind of got known in my city for that, I moved it to Hollywood.

Because I would burn every bridge I had. I was a young kid. I was kind of cocky. I didn't know. You would burn bridge? Like, how to? Like, you're the best guy. It's because you're amazing.

It's because I didn't know how to like act, bro when I was a young kid. I'd get in a lot of fights and shit. And I'd like stick my chest out too much. You know what I was? I was just a young-ass kid, like 13, bro. So, and I'd lie to these people. I'd tell them I was 17. I'm about to be 18.

Let me in, bro. Like, you know what I'm really 13, bro. Like, I looked a little older. But you got you. Like, were you like, This height still, though? Yeah, I was already this same. I've been this height since I was like 13, bro.

That's why, because I'm assuming like, because like most 13-year-olds are like probably my height. You feel? Right, like 5'7, it. Damn. Yeah. So you burn bridges. So like, like, what?

Like, just like punching niggas out? Just like. Nah, bro. Just like. Being cocky? Just like, I don't know. Just like being hella impatient and not. I don't know, bro.

I used to just get into it with promoters and shit and just, I want to get paid. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm young, bro. Like, I just didn't know how to, like, word shit. You know what I'm saying? Gosh, how much, who should get in, though? Huh?

Like, how much what you get in? The DJ and I was a kid? Like, 50 bucks or some shit. Oh, I mean, I mean, listen. They wouldn't pay me still. I ain't gonna lie to, man. Like, 50 bucks a night as, like, as a 13-year-old, that's not bad. Yeah.

At all, I'm talking about, because, like, right? I know those times, like, a what? Hollister shirt, a, a, I'm, Abbro-crombie shirt, probably running for, like, what, $15? And back then, $50 is way more than it is today. Bro, now, like, you can't do nothing in L.A. You know, bro, 50 bucks is going to get you nowhere, feel? Nowhere, dog.

Man, all right, so, like, you burn all of your bridges. Yeah, I burn hella bridges. And then you move to West Hollywood. No, no, not West Hollywood. I don't know. I went to Hollywood, bro. Okay. I went to Hollywood.

And then I use the same tactics that I used to get into these clubs out there, bro. Yeah. And, yeah, bro, I was like 14, 15, getting into these 21 and overclubs. And I started networking with promoters out there. And the next thing, you know, I'm DJing all the 21 overclubs. Like, the big clubs out there, bro. Like, I'm like, I'm doing my thing. I figured out the business, figured out how to fill up party buses with people and bring them out there.

Because that's what promoters want, you know what I'm saying. So that's how you get paid is really bringing people to the club, you know, like they don't want no DJ. That can't bring nobody. I didn't understand that for a while. That's how I burned a lot of my bridges because, I mean, fuck you guys. I'm feeling this shit. I'm fired, you know what I'm too hard for this. Yeah, you know, but that's what happened, bro.

Like, I used to like literally just to get in the club, I used to just, I get a fake ID, one of my homies or something, that's 18 or 21 or whatever age, and I just slipped like a $25 bill under it. Yeah. And then the security would be like, you get, and let me... Extortion. I just let me into play you know it again. Wait, though.

All right. So at this point, though, was your dreams just, yo, I'm going to turn. turn like 18 years old and be this big DJ or like your life dreams like something else, like to be like a firefighter or doctor or so? No, bro. I've always just wanted to do music. I didn't know what path I was going to take. I just knew DJing was what I have right now.

It's the fuck I love. Yeah. And I was passionate. I did it fucking 20 hours a day every day. I didn't sleep, bro. I practice every day. So that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to be like a big rappers DJ and DJ like tours and shit and do stuff like that.

I remember back in the day, who was it? Who was hot? Was it New Boys? Remember the new boys? Hey, you're a jerk. Yeah, I used to always want a DJ for like, they was high. And I remember like reaching out to them and like trying to like DJ for them. And then like motherfuckers would never respond to me.

And they curved you, man? Everybody would curve me, bro. I reached out to a lot of big, big people that like fuck with me today that that curved me back then. I just don't bring it up. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Bro, listen, I'm a petty nigger, bro.

Like I'll bring it up. every chance I get, man. Yeah, nah, no, no, bro. I just, that shit just fucks with my energy. I just, like, focus, bro. I don't know. It might not fuck with their energy. For me, it fucks in my focus.

I can't be thinking about that shit. Bro, if you curve... If you curve... If you curve me, like, while you were, like, at your absolute peak, and then, like, you fall off a little bit, you feel what you? And now you fucking let me?

Nah, bro, you got to know that, man. Yeah, well, think of it, bro, like, you can't fuck with everybody. So I understand as well, like, they probably had thousands of people hitting them up trying to do the same thing I was trying to do. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it's like me, bro.

I get thousands of fucking DMs every day. Like there's going to be a rapper in one of these DMs that turns into something. You know what I'm saying? I can't like be like, yeah, bro, you know what I'm saying? I can't fuck with every single person. I can't, you know what I'm saying? I have, I do know how to filter it though now because I got a team and they help me like scout the talent because that's what I do, bro.

Like my main goal now is to really like be an A and R and get these artists something. to major labels and shit. Basically middleman, you know what I'm saying? Wait, right? So when did you go from, I guess, the, you know, like the DJing to now, yo, I'm, like, I'm going to start now producing these records for people? So I think I was, all right, so look, let me rewind this in. Yeah.

So I was DJing the clubs in Hollywood, right? And I burnt all my bridges there too. Yeah. Oh, man. Let me tell you how, bro. This fucking. promoter, dog. His name is Carlos motherfucking Rojas, bro. I swear to God

bro, I forgive him, but I still kind of hate this food. I forgive him, but like there's something, you know what I'm saying? Motherfucker would never pay me, bro, because I wouldn't bring enough people to the club. And then like next, I literally drive from Palmdale to Hollywood every fucking day. That's an hour and 20

minute drive, bro. Yeah, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying? I have no money and shit. And I just need $50, $100, whatever, just $75. I'll DJ. I'll get this shit turned up. And I was a talented DJ. Like, every time I DJed, this shit was lit, Like, everyone always loved me. I built a little fan base like this because I'd have this shit turned up. You know what I'm saying?

But I just couldn't like, I was not good at like filling the club of. You know, I know how to bring 20 people, 30 people, but I couldn't bring a hundred. You know what I said? I didn't know how to do that yet. So this fucking promoter, like, didn't pay me like four or five times in a row and I just got fed up with it and one day I just bitch slapped them, bro. Really? Yeah, I literally just spit in my hand, bro, and bitch slapped them, dog.

You, listen, you come off as super calm, super like, zen, like. I'm called, bro. But you were a hot head, huh? Bro, I used to be a hot, yeah, I used to be like that, bro. Like, that explains, like, all these scars. Like, I used to get a lot of fights growing up. God damn. But the thing is, bro, because I'm like a sleeper kind of guy.

You know, like those Hondas that got, like, fucking supercharges in them. No. Yeah. Lambo? That's how I was, bro. Because I boxed for fucking 10 years. I knew how to fight, dog. I've been boxing.

My dad put me in boxing when I was 10 years old, bro. You know what I'm saying? So I, like, I've trained every fucking day, bro. Like, I knew how to fight growing up. I'd win every fight in middle school. I've lost a couple, but I literally win 95% of these fights, bro. You know what I'm saying? And I'd always, you know, I don't know.

I don't know, dog. That shit just like, one day, bro, I'm just fast forward. One day this fucking promoter didn't pay me, I just bitch slap them, bro. I should have me hot, bro. Well, first off, like, being a train fighter, it's kind of like unfair, right? Like, for example, if I'm talking shit to a dude in a club, right? Or are you? Calm duty, feel me?

Very happy, very bubbly. I'm thinking, yo, I can easily take this guy, right? You feel me? Easily, right? You feel me? Because it's probably thinking, yo, he's a little white boy. Not nowhere. Yo, this is a, oh, what's it called again?

Because I think essays are from Mexican. So, right? So, like. I'm a Hispanic, bro. And not an essay. So what are you? Like, like, just. Essay more like some gangster shit.

Oh, really? Like A. S.A. You know what I'm saying? Bro. Bro, listen, I'm from North Dakota, right? So I just assume, like, S.A just means Mexican. Yeah. No, it's some gang shit. All right.

Flaqa apologize. You feel me? Yeah. Right? Swifty Blue looks on you right now. Yo, I'm mad. I fucking, bro. I fucking love that guy, man.

I love Swifty. You know? I fucking love that guy, bro. Because, yo, is he looks like a G-10 character, bro. He walked in. I'm talking about swag as a. The motherfucker, bro.

He dripped up. I ain't never seen a nigga with that much drip in my life. And you know what I respect about Swiftie? What? He a hustler, bro. Hustler, him, doughboy 909. Shout out to Auden, bro. Yeah.

Fucking hustlers, bro. I'm paddling, bro. Straight up, bro. Like, you know, like even all that bullshit that happened recently with that interview, you know, fuck, I don't care about that shit. I just, I respect the hustle, bro, in the ground job. Bro, don't stop. Of course.

People like that going to keep going up, bro. Don't matter what happens, bro. Bro, like, it's like, it's like with, like, be personally, man, I told them too, right? Bro, like, I wish that we all thought that way, right? Like, like, yo, like me being, let's say, a black guy, right? Yeah. Yo, can you imagine if Lord Wayne, Drake, and all the top rappers kept it within themselves? Like, right?

Right, can you imagine if Drake, Wayne, little baby, money bag, bag, yo, if they all. all say, yo, we're not signing to the white guys? Fuck, no, you feel what I? You feel like? Keep it within ourselves. But that's just, right? So, like, would that shit been Swiftie, bro? Listen, you did nothing wrong, bro.

I understand. I understand why he said all that shit, too, though. Of course. Because he mainly said that because Wack 100 says some shit. And I just feel like Swifty just worded it wrong. Yeah, of course. I feel like he was trying to say that, but he just worded that shit wrong. And that's why that shit came out like that.

But he didn't really mean it like that. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm like, I feel like people would. You know, the internet takes shit and blow it up, bro. Yeah, you feel me? Yo, question for you to write. So, like, is that why you kind of just stay out of L.A.? Because the politics here is just too much?

Yeah. It's not that it's too much. It's just, I just don't, I don't know, bro. Like, I've created my own world. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. I've created my own world to where I can make a lot of money, dog, and I could just be with my...

Just stay out the way, man. Leave this shit alone. A lot of people need to go and do this shit. Like, I don't got to go nowhere, bro. You know what I'm saying? People like, if I have customers or clients or whatever, people coming to my shit, my studio, whatever, they flying in from other states every day. You know what I'm saying?

People that want to come work with us. They don't, I don't have people in L.A. pulling up to my shit every day. You know what I'm saying? I have people from all over the country coming to my shit every day. I see that. What is, okay. I don't got to go nowhere.

I can be able to butt-fuck Egypt and they'll come there. You know what I see that, bro? Yeah. So, like, when did you get your own stuff? studio. I got it like a couple years ago, man, like four years ago. I, here, right? So DJ ended. Now, like, when did you, I guess, like, transition into the, yo, we're going to work on the music shit? Oh, producing? Yeah. Um, well, I started making beats when I was like, I would say 17, 16. I wasn't good or nothing. I suck. I really sucked. I was mainly focused on DJ and then, um, um, I just kept

DJing. I made beats. I didn't take it serious yet. And then when I turned like 19 or 20, I quit. I quit music. Really? I got into like the hustling shit. You know, I was like, I need to make money. Like, so I moved to like, I moved to San Diego

and I started hustling and shit. Now, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, break the down a little bit, though. It get rewinded and break it down a little bit. When you say hustling, man, was DJ flip trapping out the Toyota Carolla? Pretty much, yeah God

At the minivan, dog Yeah I am shocked Yeah Listen, I am befuddled right now Flip I'm shocked Bro, I had to

I had to get it You know what I'm saying Wait How down bad right Where you took you like said Yo you know what bro Listen like I got kids now

Right I think Yeah yeah Kids now bro I gotta make Something shakes Now that life Had to be

Like paranoid paranoid As motherfucker Yeah bro was not the life you want to live, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to be gaining my money like that and doing shit like that.

So I had to like literally realize that. I'm not going to get into detail about any of that shit. Yeah, of course. But I had to like really realize all that and say, man, fuck this. I got to do something else. I got to do what I love which is music. Yeah. So one day, you know, what made me think that though was like I didn't smoke weed at all.

And then one day my brother-in-law gives me this blunt. And that shit just like changed everything. Made me want to make music again. Gotcha. Because I had quit music for a little bit. Yeah. You know, like I'd burn my bridge. I slapped this promoter.

No, no, no, no clubs in Hollywood wanted me to DJ there for them no more. Nobody fuck with me no more because I was, you know, the word on the streets is DJ flips. A high head. He's crazy. A maniac. Yeah, whatever. And yeah, I just moved to San Diego. And then my brother-in-law gave me this blunt.

And I'm like, man, I got to make beats. And then I just started smoking weed every day after that, dog. And then literally I got. focus on music because of the weed. And it's crazy because I got Tourette's, bro. I realized that because you said it in, like, what are like your old, like, interviews. Now, I stutter. Now, people say I got Tourette's too.

I don't see how I have Tourette's right, right? Because I just stutter. But, like, what did you get the Tourette's though? Like, what is it? Well, at a young age, I used to make, like, when I was like eight years old, nine years old, my mom used to think I was just normal. You know, you know, you know, like, you know, stop being. You're good, you know?

Like, you're fine. Nothing's wrong with you. but I'll be like twitching and I'd be having noises like, I'm making little noises and shit. Really? I couldn't control it. You know what I'm saying? Like bad ticks.

Yeah. And, you know, that's, I went to the doctor. I took myself to the doctor and I was like 18. He's like, yeah, it's Tourette's. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? My mom never took me. I took myself.

Wow. Yeah. So I realized I had that, but it's not like a crazy, mild to mild form of it, you know what I'm saying? Wait, question though. So, like, how did you talk to bitches though, like with Tourette's? It wasn't that bad. I just be like I'd have bad ticks

I just had ticks so I knew I kind of knew how to hide it You know what I'm saying I'd just be like I'd be blinking a lot like this Or I'm making a little little You know I just like Yeah I just learn how to like

I don't know I feel like girl I never had a problem with girls in my life Yeah You know what I'm saying Like for example right So me having a stutter right Now it's certain times I can control it to where like for example

Like job interviews Like you can't be out there Nah son do you feel me Now talking to holes you Listen Like sometimes it's fine right And other times, yo, you know, it's nerve-wacking for me, man, like, right? You know, like, so for me is, it's harder to control in a long-form, like, conversation,

especially talking to bitches, you feel me? With your Tourette's, is it, like, harder to control in long-form or not? Nah. Like, I feel like, the more, like, the more distracted I get, the less you'll notice it. Yeah. But, like, let's say I'm, like, jogging on a treadmill and, like, I'm just, like, thinking about shit. Like, you'll see me, like, doing it. Or like if I'm like just like if I'm not distracted.

Yeah. Like if I'm like not talking to someone like you then you'll see me doing it, you know? Yeah. If I'm making a beat or something and you're just staring at me, you'll probably notice that shit. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. But it's like literally when I'm talking to people, though, it's like distracts my mind the most. Yeah.

It's weird. And then weed literally helped me. A weed. That shit cured that shit, bro. Like you wouldn't even notice I had this shit no more. I don't smoke as much as I used to. Yeah. But weed literally fucking changed my life.

It gave me all the confidence, bro. It made me a little slower. Don't get me wrong. It made me procrastinate more. It made me slur my words a little more. But I'm grateful for it because I really slowed down on my tics and my blinking and my little twitch. I still got them and shit, but it like calmed it down by like 80%. Yo, everybody always say your flakle, you should try weed.

That would like cure the stutter. Is that true? I don't know, bro. I don't know. Some people get paranoid off weed. It's not for them, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. Yeah.

Bro, I'll be super paranoid. Because even now, like, I'm kind of like, I'm always watching out for something. But sometimes you got to face it, though, bro. Like, I used to get paranoid. And when I used to get paranoid, I smoke more just so I can face that shit. Yeah, feel me? Like what? Like, face your demons?

Not even my demons. It's just like I'm feeling paranoid. The weed is making me feel like that. It's not that I have demons. It's just my, the weed is making me feel all, like, scared and shit. Like, I'm going to die and have a heart attack. Like, fuck. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you're just like, I'm feeling. You're tripping out like, fuck. And I'm like, man, this is not going to kill you. It's just weed. Oh, no, no, no, no. Like, my paranoia comes from being an absolute square, a quote-unquote mark, I feel, I'll call it. And it probably dissity with the most wolves, right? Yeah.

So, like, when I drive, it's, you feel them? Like, bro, listen, if a car is behind me for, for like five minutes, not, son, you feel me, not, right? You turn left, right? Yeah, bro, you feel me? Right? So I feel like weed, though, might take me off of like, right? Like, I might become too comfortable, you feel me?

Yeah. And, bro, in this city, as soon as you get comfortable, you feel me? Yeah, it's not for everybody, bro. And that's what, you know, that's what shit happens, you know? But I really do think it's great for medical youth. I believe in that shit. Yeah. Because it helped me a lot.

It just, the only downside of it is it made me a little slower. Of course. But when I don't smoke weed for a month or two, I'm back to normal. Yeah, of course. So it's like... Here, right? Question for you, right? So...

So, here, so, like, you said, fuck DJing and started producing. Now, what year was that? And soon I was like, I was like, fuck DJing. I'm going to start producing. This was like 20... I was like 21, bro. I don't know what year that was. It was like eight years ago or something.

All right. And then, like, the studio came when? The studio came... So that was like... eight years ago. The studio came like five years ago, like three years after that. Ah, five, wait. And this was like before the pandemic or after the pandemic? Before. I bet. Now, right, once you got like desk studio now, was it like, like, yo, I'm now making

more money than like I've ever made? No, hell not. No? I was making more money hustling. I was making like $30,000 a month, like trapping, bro. And you gave that up? Bro, I didn't want to go to jail. or nothing, bro. I didn't want to like, you know what I'm saying? I just wanted to live. I didn't, I have like a guilty conscience. I don't feel right. Like, of course. You know what I'm saying? I didn't feel right in my heart, bro. I'm like, I don't want to be doing this shit. It's

not the life I want to live, bro. It's not going to last for a long time, you know what I'm saying? Let me let me go back to music and just figure it out. So I literally left all that shit and I went to live with my mom, bro, in her little studio apartment. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? She had like a little studio apartment. Actually a one bedroom. Sorry, it's a one bedroom apartment. Yeah. And it'd be, it was a me, you know, bighead on the beat. No. He produced Gucci gang. Oh, shit. Yeah, it was me, him, like years ago before anyone got new of us and shit. Oh, shit. It was me, him. We were all just like literally making beats in my mom's little fucking one bedroom apartment living room. This is like a Hollywood story right there, my nigga, you

feel me? Yeah, bro. We were just cooking up right there. And he had started this website called SoundClick. Yeah. And producers can go on. Oh shit. He started a sound click. No, he, he, he had started his own page on sound like. Oh, got you, got you. So rappers could buy beats off him. Yeah. And that's kind of when I took his series. I was like, man, because he's like, bro, I made $500 this month or some shit.

Yeah. I'm like off of beats. I was like, bro, this is like my dream. Like not do what I have to, what I do over here. I could just do this. I was like, fuck, it should inspire me, bro. And I'm like a hard worker. I've always been the type to like just grind, bro.

So once I seen that, I started my own shit. And literally my first beats that were actually kind of good, were like making me money. Like that first month, I started that website. Oh, wow. I was making money, dog. No, that's insane. Yeah, I started.

And then like three months later, four months later, I'm making $15, $20,000 a month off this website, bro. Off just this beat selling. Off this beat selling shit. Well, question for you, right? So when he got the Gucci Gang song, did he kind of like, stop fucking with y'all? No, that's family, bro. Man. We love Bighead, bro.

Yo, let's see a real nigga then, bro. Because most niggas, if they get a song that's that big, I'm just, I'm I'm talking about like a billion views and, bro, they done fucking with the, you feel feel me? Well, the thing is this, bro, like, I've always been a hustler, so I'm like, yo, these guys are doing that, I gotta do the same thing. So I built my name too and he started hearing my shit everywhere. So it's like maybe if I didn't do nothing at all, maybe I don't know how he would have

been, bro. But yeah, you know, we all kind of went our own ways to be real because we all got busy, but that's just how life is, bro. You're not gonna stick with the same, you know, he got a kid now, I got a family and shit. You know, I got my family. I'm not, you know, shit happens. bro.

Oh, well, tell the people, though, right? What, like, songs, though, well, like, what's one of, like, your most, like, quote-unquote popular songs? I would say Love Scars, too, by Trippy. I was like, baby. Really? Yo, those crazy? I never knew that.

Yeah. Again, call it bad preparation. I just never knew that. Yeah, brother. I did a perk popper by Shoreline Mafia. Got like 30 million streams on it. Oh, wow. Love Scars and that whole album, a love letter to you and gold.

There's a lot of shit we did, bro. Your question for you did, so. Like, how do producers make money off of his songs like that? Publishing, bro. And, you know what I'm saying? If you know how to, if you know your business, bro, you know, you know how to register your shit. You know, you'll get you. You get them checks mailed to you, bro.

God damn. Or deposit it to your account. Or a lot of producers go the other way. They sign deals and shit and, you know, and do it that way. Ain't nothing wrong with any of that. As long as you got a lawyer, bro, and you know what you're doing, you know? You're good. You're good, man.

Yo, how did Trippy get that song or not the beat? Because, you know, 1,200, the producer? Yeah. He, uh, he fucking, basically, he made all of, like, Chief Key shit and Chief Keith Keith started. He found a lot of people. He has a lot of his, like, young boy. Yeah, of course.

So, uh, I think it was, yeah, it was 12. 12 just, like, met him somewhere and just, like, he told me he met him, like, in Hollywood. He was on Tripi wasn't nobody or nothing. He just brought him to his house. Really? Like, just met him, like, randomly? Yeah, I don't know how many followers. I think he was, like, very low.

He wasn't, he was doing something, but he wasn't, like, cracking it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I think when we met him, the first love scars came out and that shit blew up. And then like literally we made love scars too and that shit blew him up even bigger. And then he just took off, bro. Like, no, you like, listen, like, like, that's crazy, man. Shout out to Trippi. Shout out the 2100.

Motherfuckers is a beast, bro. Like crazy. Yo, facts, man. No, because I heard, I think I know where the like connection comes in because I think that Trippy is Tato's cousin, right? I don't know. Yeah, right. Here.

So, so like during the pandemic, is that when? like you started like flying out like random people. No, I've been doing, so I got this business modelized structure. So I'm like, yo, how do I make more money like because I'm not the type like I don't want to keep chasing these rappers to work with them, bro. Exactly. You know, I'm like, how do I make like money right now like without having to make another hit record or do this and do that? Like how do I like, how do I figure this out? So I'm like, you know what?

I made these songs. I got a bunch of songs in the streets. I got millions of views and then I got this shit with Trippy and I got this shit with Trippy and I got This shit, this shit everywhere. Everyone's knowing my DJ Flip, make the money flip tag. Everyone's knowing my shit. There's people that want to work with me. So I'm like, you know what?

I'm just charge motherfuckers come pull up to me. So I came up with this business model, bro. I just packaged deals, bro. And I started putting these package deals together. So you come to my studio instead of just having a session and working on my beats. Like you'll get a music video, you get the beats, you get the fucking photo shoot, whatever, make a cover for you, we'll put the shit on all platforms. We'll like, you know, I put a whole package, you know.

And I'll make it affordable. Yeah. So I'm like, damn, I just created a whole business right there, an empire. And that shit doesn't turn into a million-dollar company. Do you sign them? Huh? Like, do you sign them when they come or no? No, no, no, no.

So it's mainly like you come to my studio. Well, I do. There's a lot of people that have gotten signed or have been scouted from like A&Rs. A lot of A&Rs follow me, a lot of people. And I've been posting people up on my page and shit, shouting them out. So a lot of people I have gotten attention to them from fucking with me, dog. But it's like, I don't just sign everybody that pulls up. No, not, no.

It's not, you know, it'd be impossible. Yeah, man. It's because you got to think of it, bro. It's not just about the talent. Yeah. You know, it's like, you come to my studio. You could be popping a little bit. It's not even that.

You got to be willing to get yourself popping, bro. You got to be willing to put out a music video, two music videos a week or a month or whatever. And, like, some people just come to my studio and expect that to, like, blow them up. Like, no, bro. Like, you got to go back and keep dropping shit every day nonstop. You know, I just like providing a great. service for people. You know, I don't sell dreams.

I don't do none of that. I see you don't sell dreams, though, because niggas, I will pay for you to play their shit. And you will tell, niggas, bro, this shit is garbage. Yeah, because you know why I do that? Why? Because my friends do that to me, bro. Oh, really?

You know what I'm saying? My homies, like, if I make a fucking beat in this shit's ass, they'll be like, what the fuck are you making, dog? Who them? They tell you that? Everybody, yeah. Wow. Bro, that I'll do.

Not nice, guys. Not nice, man. Vice versa, though. You know what I'm saying? By this versus, that's how you get, there's no hard feelings. I don't get it butt hurt. I'm like, oh, this shit is suck. It's just, it does suck.

Fuck this. I know, right? That's my personality. I don't get mad at shit like that. Yeah. You're like, what the fuck you making? This shit sucks, bro. Like, this is some booty.

Bro. If I have a studio and you come to my studio and tell me this shit trash, you got to go. Get the fuck out. Listen, especially when the holes around, bro, I feel me? Like, like, like, you got to go. You feel me? It don't matter, bro. It don't matter.

It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. Like, we just keep it real with each other. And I'm just myself. When I go on those little streams and shit, I just be myself, bro. Yo. And who's the most famous nigga and you've had in your studio?

Probably ain't be a young boy. Shit. Oh, but I remember. That's different. Should I talk about this shit? Talk about it, man. Bro, that who kicked us out of the studio one, bro. Who, young boy?

Yeah, dog. Wait, wait, hold it. Why did he kick you out the studio? I don't know what he was on that day. I fuck with him heavy, though, bro. I remember Boosey. So look, Boosy's my boy. That's my people's.

So Boosie's like, yo, I need a studio, boom, boom, pulled up, got the studio ready for him. And then young boy pulled up and then he wanted to record and he just like, he's just like looking mad. He's on the, he's cutting on the couch and shit with his girl. And then he's about to record and he's like, exit. He looked at me and said exit. Oh, man. And he looked at all my homies, looked at his homies too. We looked at everybody like, exit, exit.

Exie. He just said, exit. I was like, damn, dog. He's probably high as fuck. I don't know what. I don't know, bro. what? I've never talked about this, but it's like on some like, that's probably one of the biggest people. I don't make no songs with him or nothing though, bro, because like we had the exit.

Was he big though at that point or was he? He's a fucking star, bro. I'm a fan. I'm still a fan, bro. I fuck with a young boy. Just like, I don't know, he's probably on some shit, bro. Yeah, it looks like, I don't know. The way he looked in his eyes, I don't know. He could have been sober. Maybe that's just how he is. But to me, I thought that fool was maybe on some drug. He said, exit. He said exit. He's like exe. He literally said exit. Is he going to hurt though? Like, like. No, I just said, man, fuck you. I was like, man, fuck that fool then.

That's what I said. That's what I said in my mind to my homie. Let's go back to the city. Here, right? So you see, like, there's great leadership right there, bro. Yeah. Because if you would have tripped, then your homies would have tripped, you feel me?

Yeah. And then it would have been, been like in all bad. How did you even like calm your homies now be like, you know, come on, bro? Like we all just looked at each other, bro. And we're like, it's not even weird, bro. It's not weird, bro. Like, I'm with boot and. I'm talking out for Boosey, Boosey asking for the studio.

Yeah. I'm not gonna fuck up his little relationships he got. Of course. You know what I'm saying? It is what it is, bro. Like, you know, I ain't tripping, bro. Yeah. I don't, I don't get down like how I used to, bro.

Yeah, nah. I'm not a high head no more, bro. I don't, I don't be fighting people no more. I don't be, I haven't got in like 10 years, but I don't do none of that. I don't get mad no more. I haven't got mad in years, bro. I'm always just happy. I'm just good.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, facts. You feel of me? I've just grown a lot. I have a bunch of kids. There's no reason for me to... You want to... A wild lot of trip.

You know, I'm not gonna just... It is what it is. It's part of the business, bro. Some people, everyone's different. Every rapper different. Some people got their egos and shit. It is what it is. You ain't gonna bully me though.

Like, if you call me like... A bitch-ass-nig-old type of shit? Yeah, yeah, like that's different, bro. But you're just saying, like, eggs and you look like you off the drugs. You're a young kid. I put that all in my head. I was like, let it be, dog. Yeah, right?

And also, too, like, you got like, Like six foot nine, niggas, you're filming with you, right? Yeah, bro. I'm deep too, bro. And I know everyone in that area, like I could have made any phone call

I wanted to. I know people, bro, I'm not. It might be worth it, man. Bro, for what? Like, it's not worth it. Yo, question, right? So, like, have you ever, like, flown somebody out?

And they're, and they're just making some, some trash shit. I'd be like, and you have to say, say, bro, listen, man, like, you pay your money, right?

So I'm going, record it for you bro but this shit is not it well i don't record them i got engineers and shit you know okay i don't i don't engineer i'm just like an executive producer now like i i bring the people to my studio if my team focus you i'm gonna focus you as simple as that bro you know what i'm saying i got my engineers i got my producers i got everything you know what i'm saying to where i don't even got to make beats no more if i don't want to oh shit so love i got a whole camp you know what i'm saying to where like you know what i'm saying so it's like if you Trash, bro, like, you know, my, my, there's been some trash people that pulled up.

Don't get me wrong, dog. You know, there's been some trash-ass artists that pulled up, but, you know, I still show them love, bro, because they're humans. No, no, no. I tell me, this shit sucks, bro, but let's go smoke a blunt. Yeah. You know, or whatever, you know, it's all good, you know? Let's go drink a beer.

I don't know how. You know, I'm like, this shit's ass, but let's go drink a beer, dog. Like, that's just me, bro. Like, just because I don't like your music, don't mean, I don't like you. Yeah, for. Some people take that like if you don't like their music, like you don't like them or something. Yeah. It's not like that.

Of course. Yo, I don't know how I feel, man. Now, oh, we got to, like, speak on this, man. So that night with, like, Saas Walker, man, how was his temperament? Oh, bro, I didn't even know about to speak on that, dog. Should I? All right, look, look, look. Yeah, man, let's get to it.

Oh, man. All right, yeah, so what happened, bro? I guess Khali got a phone call. I don't know, bro. Somebody who got a phone call, you got a phone call or something like that? Like some girl was like, bro, Salswaka just caught a body or something shit. I don't know. I don't know some shit like that.

Or some shit like that, right? He didn't, obviously. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's like, he's like, yo, Soswaka this. And then Khalid, and I tell Khalid, I'm like, yo, they're going to be here in 20 minutes. Like, like, Soswark on the way. Like, Soswaka on the way.

Oh, man. And we're like, oh, shit. Like in our mind's like this move like he's gonna come hide out out our studio or something. We're like fuck. So the whole time to the next day like I was like that whole night we were like trying to hide him out. Like I was like on some like everyone be low key.

I don't know what's going on. Well, I thought bro fucking caught a body. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. So I thought that's what happened dog. And, you know, so we're just trying to hide him out dog in the studio. Hold up. So like and he was I guess like purposely staying inside the studio and not leaving?

Yeah. He was in the studio. We made like six songs. He was very, you know, he was on his phone talking to his people about the shit. And, uh, yeah, bro, he didn't really tell us anything about the situation. We just seen the shit on the internet. We all knew what happened already. Yeah.

And he's just right there in my studio. Oh, man. And I'm like, fuck. We're like, all right, let's hide this guy out. You know, so we thought like, bro, did some shit. Oh, really? So we're like trying to, like, hide him out. And we're like, damn, maybe, you know, it's shit's hot right now.

Let's just make some music, whatever. Yeah. And then the next day we find out what really happened. and they were like, oh, all right. Were you, like, disappointed, though? Nah, bro. Because, bro, they're going to be knocking on my door trying to ask me questions.

And that shit really happened, bro. Like, the feds would have been at my studio. Like, oh, yeah, he was here happening. Like, what do you got to do with the RICO charge all of us and shit? No, I'm good, bro. Like, yeah, no, no, no, no. Yo, bro, that's a listen, bro. Yeah.

I don't know how you was able to, like, have your poker face, man. Because I probably would have said, bro, you don't got to go home, man, but you got to get the fuck up out of here. bro. It's like, yeah, yeah, no, I would just, yeah, I don't know, bro. I was like, I focus off Swaka, you know. I want to make some songs, bro.

I'd even really think about that shit like that. Man, yo, push it for you, right? So, you know, so, like, who's your top five West Coast Producers? Top five West Coast producers. Yes, of all time. DJ Mustard, Dr. Dre, Scott Stores, is West Coast, right? Is that West Coast Coast?

I think so, right? He made some West Coast his, for show. Scott Storch, DJ Quick, and you want me to name like somebody new? Hey, you know, it don't matter. Shit, honestly, those are like the only ones, really like... A DJ Flip? Yeah, I guess me.

My team for show, honestly, my favorite, like, that's like my all-time favorite, though, bro. Like, if you want me to tell you, like, my favorite West Coast producers right now would probably be my team, like, literally Khalid, Brooks, fucking 5.0. My whole team, bro, like, they fire as fuck, though. Low the Great. Low the Great. Shout out Loa to Gras. Rapper. It's Rapper.

He made a bunch of shit for O3 Grito. He's part of the 808 Cartel. Oh, shit. He got shit with everybody. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of dope-ass. Why that name, though? Rapper.

No, 808 Cartel. 808 cartel? Literally, bro, just like a... So when I started 808 cartel, it was just me and my homies making beats, right? And think of it, we're all Hispanic. I'm like, I got to think of a production team. Like, I'm like, 808 Mafia.

We're Hispanic. A08 Cartel. You know what I'm saying? That's how I came over it. I was like, we're like the Hispanic 808 Mafia. We make hard-ass beats like that. Yeah. So I was like, shout out to 808 Mafia.

I pay homage, bro. That's literally where I got the fucking. Oh, shit, that's it? Yes, literally where I got the same. I was like, they ate away mafia. I was like, we're Hispanic. Ato-A cartel. Like, that's hard.

You know, so I'm going to just, you know, I pay respect. That's where I got it from. I got to pay homage, bro. Shout out to Atoe Mafia. Now, who's the hardest Hispanic rapper in a game right now? The hardest Hispanic rapper? rapper? Yeah. In the game. Hmm. I don't really listen to Hispanic rappers, bro. Nah? What question do you say? I fuck could, like, a new rapper? Like, so are you new?

Yeah. Who the fuck's hard, bro? Damn, bro. Damn, bro. Give me some names. Peso, Peso? Yeah, he's fired. Oh. But I, but I, but I, but I, but I don't really, when you tell me Hispanic rapper, I'm thinking of like, hey, fool, this. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not thinking of that. I'm not, nah, nah, nah, nah, no, like, yeah, there's a lot of dope ass foods out there, peso for show but yo it's one kid but i haven't like heard from him in a while man like i don't know if he just kind of like just just fell to face of the planet this kid called baby soldier never heard of him maybe i have shit me he's watching this movie if i don't know yo he was bro he listen he's hard he's like he's hard as hell but question for you right like when did you like start doing the

i'm just going to spam this comment section um so one day I just left the comment, bro, and this shit just, like, I got like 5,000 followers, bro. Wow. Have you got it blocked yet? No. Yo. So I figured out the marketing shit for this shit, bro.

Like, all right, look, I'm going to just give it up right now. I'm going to give the sauce. Free game, bro. This is the free game, bro. Free game, dog. If you're verified, right, on Instagram and these big pages follow you, your comment going to show it first, no matter of that. Oh, man.

And I figured that out years ago. I figured that out a long time ago. I'm like, oh, all these big pages follow me. Yeah. That's why my shit pop up first in front of everybody. So boom, you know, I got like 150,000 followers from comments, bro. That's crazy. Yeah, so it's just like that was just my, it's a marketing.

I always come up with new marketing techniques, bro. Like, like, that might not work no more after this, you know. It is what it is. But I'm always going to come up with some new shit. Question though, right? Because, you know, like. I don't even do the comments shit no more as much. I do every once in a while, but.

I'd want to ask that. Like, you kind of like slow down off it. Like, I don't see you do it. Like, why have you just stopped? Because, like, it's like, that. that type of marketing don't last forever, bro. It's like, there's like waves. You got to catch it.

You know what I'm saying? You got to catch the new shit always. And I've always been the type to always like catch the new shit to like kind of keep me relevant. Yeah. You feel me? Yo, look, it was you. I wanted to do called production by Zach. No, but he's consistent though.

Like he, he is relentless. He is not letting up, bro. But like, like. Yeah, I've seen this shit, bro. I think he liked me, though. What? I don't think he likes me. What?

Wait, one. One, how can he not like you? Like, he's your son. Yeah. No, bro. Like, I love to him, bro. You know, I, you know, shout out to him, dog. I got nothing against it, bro.

Right. You see, right, you know, for him, though, and here's why I think he should hit you up, right? Is, because his shit is just him just saying this person is the goal. It don't really, like, sounds like, it's any real, like, I guess, like, logic behind it or any real like business strategy or ploy to it. But if you hit a BJ flip, he can teach you how to get to that bag, man.

Yeah, see, I've turned it into a bag. Yeah. You feel me? I had a whole little business structure behind. I'm like, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do this. Once this works, you know. And, you know, I feel like behind everything you do,

you got to have a plan, bro. Mm-hmm. And I had a plan behind these comments, bro. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, a question for you. Who's those two dudes who do like the, like the music stream with you? With me?

Oh, Do Boy Rari and Defecto? They're right there. So one fat dude is funny as a motherfucker. Him right there, him? He's not fat no more, but yeah, here, man. No, white shirt right there to the left. Wait, wait. Let me see.

Bro, I have the worst, like, the worst eyesight. Like, like, my shit is horrible as full. Let me just show you what I'm talking about, man. This nigga is the funniest nigga in the world, man. He's the funniest motherfucker in the fucking world, bro. You feel me? Let me show you. You can show you.

A word? Here, let me show you, man. He's like a... I'm on your stream right now. Let me go to... Yo, bro, I watch all your shit to... When I tell you, bro, like... It's like, go streams.

Bro, like, I fucking love watching that shit. Bro, listen, look at this shit, bro. Like, no cap. You can see this shit and watch to the very end. You feel me? Yeah. I watch that shit, bro. I fucking love that shit, bro.

And it's because of this nigga, man, you feel me? It's because of this nigga, man. Let me see, man. That shit's funny as hell. Yeah, bro. He's the funniest one, man. This nigga on the left right here. That's, do we see?

Oh, that's him right there. That's the fucking. Man, bro, you're funny. He lost more weight. He lost more weight. Bro, I'm telling you, man, listen, bro. So he looked fatter right there. That's a couple months ago.

Yeah, bro. You feel me? Bro, listen. Like, you are a funny motherfucker, man. Yo, now flip, tell us, man. Like, what's next? Where can they find you? et cetera, et cetera, man.

Shit, man. What's next for me is, you know, I'm going to be, you know, keep an eye out for me, you know, because I'm going to be a big A&R, bro. Like, that's my goal, bro. I'm going to be a big A&R for these major labels and for my own label. I'm going to get these artists big deals, bro. Get them big bags, bro. That's what the fuck.

You're a ball store, right? Yeah. Adam tried, like, try, you know, like kind of like the A&R thing. And he just said just, just dealing with the labels on a daily basis, is probably the worst thing ever. So why do you want to go into like, like, A&R thing? Because I really, because, you know, I don't want to put up my own money. You know what I'm saying, though, first of all, you know what I'm saying?

I'd rather get the label to put up the bag and get these artists signed, bro. Yeah. You know, I'm just, I'd just be the middleman, dog. You know what I'm saying? Hair, right. So, like, how can a person who's watching us right now are super dope artist and he says, yo flip, how do I get your attention

and also too, like coming to you and he wants to come to you ready. What do he have to do before coming to you to where you can get him a deal? You got to basically establish yourself a little, bro. Book a package deal, bro.

Come to my studio. Book of fucking packages. You know what I'm saying? Start with that. It's cheap, bro. It's affordable. You come to my studio with a low budget, bro. We'll shoot your music video. Just hit me up on Instagram. We'll send you the pricing. and shit, you know what I'm saying? It's simple. Book a fucking package. We'll do the visuals for you. You know, get the promo with it. We'll put that shit out. People fuck with it. You know, that's the first step. People fucking with this shit. You know, we post you up

and you gain more views and shit. Because some people, I post somebody that get 100K views and I post this other guy who get 5K views. It's like people like, you know what, what, they like, I can't control that shit. Of course. You know what I'm saying? No, yo. I seen that one nigga made like, what, 16 songs in a day? Yeah, bro. Those motherfuckers that come through and make crazy shit. But like I said, it's like that's all they do

sometimes though. They just come and make that and then they'll never do nothing after that. It's like, I want to see visuals getting drive. I want you to be throwing

your own shows in your city. I want you to build a fucking name. That way I can call my connections and set these meetings up because they're not going to, these labels don't want to develop people no more, bro. They want what's hot already, bro. You know what I'm saying?

Yo, listen, I talk to to NB Young Boys, Man, right? And he's the dude, I think, at Atlantic, right? And like, he does kind of after publishing, right? And he said, and I asked me this question, and I say, yo, like, would you sign if you found

this artist, he's the hardest motherfucker ever? Like, like, he just blew you off your feet, but he has $5,000 and followers. He said, fuck no. Yeah. Not touching him. I said. I mean, there's some people that will fuck with you, you know, if you got good relationships. That's like where my business model comes.

like I'm building these great relationships with people, you know, to where they could fuck with somebody like that that has no following, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But 95% of the time motherfuckers got to have a name, bro. Some type of buzz in their city. Some type of view, some type of 100K views, something like that you can bring. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Here, Rachel, so like last question, man, what's an industry plan? Industry plan? Yeah. What do you mean industry plan? Like, like, look, so like, people, like, for example, rapper would just pop off Like for example Like people say the ice spice

The much girl Morey said or et cetera This say yo She blew a fast ice spice Yeah She blew a fucking fast Right And people will say

Yo she's an industry plant Because of how fast she You know You know blew up right So like what's an industry plant And like too is like How can you tell Shit bro

I don't know Some people are just going to blow up fast like that Yeah You can't really Control that I think, you might put somebody shit out and that should get a million views over now. You don't know, bro. Yeah.

So, like, everyone's different, dog. But I really believe in longevity takes time, bro. Like, you want to be in this shit for a while? Like, you got to really take your time building this shit. You notice the greatest artists out here took years to get famous, bro. Years, bro. Like, the people that have lasted the longest, you know, I've been doing this shit for years. No, not.

That's a fact. And the people that fell off the fastest blew up overnight. You know what I'm saying? Of course. Come on now, though. It's better to do it. Build over time, bro. At least from what I've seen in my experience,

I feel like take your time with this shit. Man, bro, listen, bro. And be patient. Bro, I definitely agree, man. Yo, flip, bro. It's been a fucking pleasure, bro. Listen, we definitely got to have you on the Monday show. You feel me?

Because we do it from six to eight every Monday. Also, too, we got to link up for like, listen, me, you, and bring that nigga to it, right? Yeah, yeah. Bro, I'm trying to come live and tell niggas how trash they shit are. Let's do it, bro. Bro, I got to be there.

For me and man, like, bro, I'm trying to tell these niggas that this shit is garbage. You feel me? Hot pickle juice, bro, garbage pickle juice, I'll be telling people with this shit, man, like, look, dog, if your music sucks and you, look, man,

first of all, for the people that I don't know, I got a live music review podcast I do every week on my YouTube channel, right? Yes. You go to my YouTube. I used to do it on Twitch. I'm back on YouTube. I used to do it on both, but I used to like I built a big Twitch following.

Now I'm converting it to YouTube. That's why like the, like, it's building up again. But I switch it to YouTube, bro, and I do these shit's weekly and I review your music. And then we fly people out. Like the hottest songs, we give people a free package. They come to my studio. Oh, shit. Yeah.

So if you got a hot-ass song, you know, if you submit your music and we listen to when we fuck with it, you might come to my studio for free. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? Get a music video shot and get the whole thing. I'll interview you and shit. that because I got my own podcast too. I put you on the show all that because you know, I show love to the upcoming artist. That's like my main thing, bro, is the upcoming artist.

Fuck work, fuck working with the big famous people. I like working with the upcoming artist, bro. And it's like not that I'll work with you, sit with you in the studio one-on-one, because it's not really what I do. But my team, it's like a whole team thing, bro. I have the best engineers, the best producers, the best studio, best equipment, hundreds of thousands of dollars and shit. Everything, bro. You know what I'm saying? Exactly, So, you know, we give it audio. I got to do to submit your fucking song. Go to my Instagram, ask me how, or go to my YouTube, watch the stream.

It's simple. But that's how we do this shit. It's a live music review podcast. And if your shit sucks, remember this. If your music sucks, we're going to tell you it sucks. There ain't no shame in my game. We're going to tell you. Even if you can follow me, block me, I don't care.

I don't lost viewers, subscribers because I tell people they shit. I don't tell 300 people. You got to be honest. Bro, it is what is. But there's people I love watching this shit because of that. You know what I'm saying? Like me. Exactly.

They love watching it because we keep it real. And if your shit's fire, we're going to tell you. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Again, man, there's no cap. It's no cap. It's no cap. It's no cap.

Coolest podcast in the world, man. We are out of here, folks. Peace.