No Jumper - Dom Corleo on Blowing Up Out of The Underground, Yeat's Rise, Tour Stories & More

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Dom Corleo talks about his rise, Tiktok, relationship with Yeat, Twisty P, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper, coolest podcast in the world. I'm in here today. I got my man Rima with me. And we officially tapping in and doing the Dom Corleo interview. Sir, sir. It's official. It's going down. And introduce us to your friend here as well.

It's Bristow. A lot of people probably know Bristair already. I'm a producer. Produce a couple songs you might know. You guys think of yourselves as like a real rapper producer duo or is it just a temporary thing? No, I'd say so. I think we're a rock band. Yeah, we're a little rock band, a little duo.

How ya, me, how I got to get tapped on? What do you tell you? Me and Bristow met, like, well, like five, six years ago? Like five years ago. Yeah, because I was just, you know, I had started making music, and then, you know, I was just networking through, like, Instagram and shit. And, yeah, bro, just through a bunch of producers I was networking with. Through, like YouTube and YouTube.

Actually, no, no, no. I met Bristow. So he was making YouTube type beats And I had found one of your One of your beats on YouTube, right? And then I just hit him up And I was just like, like yo, like you're hard And pause

But Very necessary I hit him up and we just like locked in And just from there bro like You know I got connected with all his homies And then all you know We just became a big ass friend group so Okay so even before that though like

Musically or what was your childhood like Give us a little bit of insight into that? I mean, pretty standard childhood. Like, I grew up, you know, both my parents. I grew up in, I'm from California, so I was born. Up north, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, what was that my best?

Up north? Yeah, so I was born, you know where, like, Roseville is at? It's kind of by Sacramento. Okay. So I was born there. I lived there for about 10 years in this little city called Rockland. And then I moved out to the Bay Area when I was about, like, 10? Yeah, like 10-11.

And, you know, I went to middle school there. Actually, I finished off elementary there. Went to middle school, graduated high school in the Bay. And then I moved out to Arizona for two years because my parents got a crib out there. What were your parents doing during all this? What, like growing up? Like, career-wise or whatever, yeah. My dad does audio visual.

Like, ever since I've grown up, he's always done audio-visual. So, like, he'll go, I don't know. Like, he does cool shit. Like, they've done shit with, like, electronic arts. I remember when I was young, he always used to bring me to, like, the EA, the EA headquarters to, like, get games. And, you know, they have that little store in there. So they do shit where, like, they set up the conference rooms, like something like this. So, like, the audio, I don't even know.

Like, all the audio equipment, he would do all that shit. So I feel like most of my life, I knew what my dad did, but I didn't actually really know what he was doing at work a lot of the time. Yeah. No, he would, like, bring me to work with him. here and there so I got to see like all the shit you would do and then my mom my mom was always doing like apartment leasing and like she would always be um like I know when I was in high school the complex we lived that she was the manager there so you know she was always doing that actually when I was younger she worked at a at a like a casino it was like a hotel casino and

she worked in like the hotel area it was like the manager there so I used to go to the casino when I was young and like go and run around there so I was fun Yeah, that's what's up. But yeah, no, I lived in Arizona for two years, and I moved out here to L.A., like the beginning of this year. Okay. You didn't like Arizona? Bro, it's just so dry there.

There's not shit going on there. Like, I mean, it's nice if you're, like, retired. You know, my parents love it because it's quiet. They've got a nice house, which, you know, wasn't expensive. You know, coming from the Bay Area, Bay Area is the most expensive place to live now. It's, you know, it's ridiculous out there. So they went, you know,

They got a nice house and it's kind of like west of West of Phoenix like 20 minutes west of Phoenix. Okay. And yeah, I mean, they love it. It's just, bro, it's too hot and it's just, it's not much going on. Like, as far as music. Arizona seems good when we're talking to drill artists and they're talking about moving to Arizona, like to get away from like all the murders in the city they grew up in. But for someone who lives in, like, L.A., I just cannot imagine how much more boring it would be to move out there. Yeah, bro.

It's not. I was just actually there as past week just visiting my parents. but yeah it ain't really going on there they've got like a little scene but it's just i don't know bro it's the desert so you know so you feel like the bay is more home for you yeah no the bay is definitely home because that's you know that's where i spent i say like where you're from is where you grow up so like me you know i i did end of elementary middle school high school all in the bay area so that's definitely like where i you know where i would say i'm from so were you making music in uh like when you're in high school and shit or when did that start?

Yeah, so I started making music when I was 15. So I think I was like a sophomore. And it was actually funny. Like it started as a joke. Like me and my homeboys would just go over to each other's crib and we had like a little PlayStation headset and we downloaded Audacity. And we were just like around doing freesty. And then, you know,

I went from that to where I was going back to my house. I had like this little setup. I had on, there was this girl at my school that sold me like a snowball mic for like 20 bucks. And I made this little setup where I put cardboard like around it to do like the, you know, to block out the noise. And, you know, I went from freestyling at my friend's crib, the recording at home when I got home from school. And then like I would bring my shit over to my friend's crib and I would record at his crib, you know, so like, yeah, it just, I don't know, it's kind of weird how it came to be, but it, you know, it's just something that I immediately like grew a passion for. And at that time,

too, like, you know, I was big in the SoundCloud shit. Like, like, I loved every SoundCloud rapper that was popping at that time. Like what era of SoundCloud rap would you like X, Uzi? Okay. Like that, you know, that was when I was a freshman. Like I remember I found X when I was like in eighth grade. And then when I was like a freshman is when he started blowing up. So like that, you know, and that whole SoundCloud scene started blowing up.

That was like 2016. So I just, yeah, you know, I was heavily influenced by all that. Like I, you know, seeing all these guys and just being like I was never good in school. so I was always, you know, I had my headphones in, just listening to music. Were you like a popular kid or were you kind of a loner? No, I was to myself, bro. I just put my headphones in. Hell not.

I put my headphones in, just get my shit done. And, you know, I go kick it with my homeboys and smoke weed, like, in the car on break. So I didn't really, yeah, I was never really around, nobody like that. So when you moved to L.A., was that primarily because of the music? And do you actually have traction or, like, were you doing any numbers at that point? Yeah. So I moved to LA like right after it really like took off because you know I had been making music for like five years But she really didn't take off until like the end of 22. I had dropped that this one song penthouse shorty

Like August 22 and I put it on TikTok actually I put it on TikTok like right before I dropped it and the snippet just like blew up just got huge And, you know, just from there, like, I dropped the song. The song did really good. I just stayed really consistent, kept dropping. You know, every drop I was putting out, I was just staying really consistent with TikTok, too. And every drop I was putting out was just doing really good. So obviously, when that starts happening, you know, labels start hitting you up and everybody starts reaching out. So, like, in this time period, like the end of 2022, you know, I was going back and forth.

Just me and my manager were flying out to L.A., like, every week to do all these, um, all these meetings and, you know, meet with all these different people and get in studios with this person and that person. So, yeah, it was, it was just really hectic going back and forth. So it was just easier for me to make the move out here. And by the time I did move out here, I was a lot more established with what I was doing. So did you already sign? Yeah. So it's not a record deal. It's a distribution deal. So I have a distribution deal and then I have a pub admin deal. Okay. Who did you sign with? My distribution deals with an indie label called New Eleven.

So they were actually really close with my manager. It's two guys that own the label. And they were already really close with my manager. My manager had already, you know, brought them a bunch of deals. And he was seeing what they were doing for other artists. So he was like, yo, you should like, you should with them. You know, they really with you. They would love to just start with something small.

And, you know, like I wanted to obviously be smart about it. Because these, bro, these major labels come to you and they're offering you, you know, they're offering you a little bag. but they locking you in for six years. And it's like, you know, you go to a major label as a small artist. They've got artists like Uzi and, you know, what makes me believe that they're going to prioritize me over artists like that. You know, there's a lot of labels are just looking for a quick buck when it comes down to that. Like, you know, they see a TikTok hit.

Of course they want to sign you because they want to make that money off that TikTok hit you got. So, yeah, I mean, I knew I didn't want to sign to a major off the bat like that. So, yeah, I ended up, you know, fucking. with these two guys that my manager was close with, they had their own little shit going, and it just worked out, bro. I took like a small distribution deal with them off the bet, got those, it was like 15 songs, got those out the way, and then re-signed with them for obviously like a lot, a lot larger amount.

And so when you first started getting any kind of viral going on or whatever, was it primarily on TikTok? Like you just kind of kept putting yourself out there on TikTok and just random clips started doing well? Yeah, bro, it was just TikTok. And it wasn't even that other people were posting shit. It was just me like, like, and I would just post the most simple to, like, for example, the shit that blew up was just like a snippet of the music video.

And the music video was just full shot on VHS. Like, I wanted it to be super simple. Just because I knew, like, what would gain tracks, what would gain that traction at that time. So I told, you know, I told my videographer, homie, I was like, bro, look, let's do the mad simple. We'll just go, you know, VHS, the whole thing. I'm going to post a clip on TikTok. and, you know, we hope for the best.

And from there, just took off. So as soon as that took off, you know, obviously I took advantage. I was just using, like, the sound on TikTok, making videos with it, like, as much as I could. Every day, every other day. And every video, you know, would do really good. Because that's kind of the way TikTok is. It's weird, bro. They have, like, a weird algorithm where, like, if you catch that algorithm and you're posting a certain way, like, every video you post is going to go up.

And as soon as you kind of let go of it Where like now I'm at the point where I kind of let go of that So now when I post TikToks They're not going to do as good as you know like Was before so I kind of got to get back in that algorithm But um yeah I mean at this time bro Like everything was just going up Why did you fall back from like doing TikToks?

Like bro I just be like like it's not even that I didn't want to be anything Like I don't mind doing TikToks I don't see anything wrong with TikTok You start to feel like Addison Ray No not that type of tic tics like you're doing a little too much. Yeah, no, I mean, everybody uses TikTok. You see like Yadi making TikToks. Yeah, yeah, you know, no, there ain't nothing wrong with it. Big percentage of artists have like a person on their team who's in charge of coming up with TikTok ideas for them at this point. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. Like, I remember when I first started doing it, I was like,

bro, like, I don't got no ideas because everybody was making these TikToks like where they got this whole caption, you know, they post it and they've got like a, oh, my music, this, that, like, bro, I was literally just posting videos like just a video. of me with no no like caption or anything and I would just put like or like if the song was dropping Friday the caption would be Friday and it's just a video of me like with the song playing because as an artist there's a lot of stuff that you could do on YouTube or TikTok or whatever that might go viral or be good for getting you out there but ultimately will kind of make you look like a piece of corny to a lot of the fan base so there's a lot of weird decisions to make like that you know yeah you don't

want to make it in a certain way where like it looks a type of way and you know obviously going along with with my career i've done that you know i probably shouldn't have done or that looked a certain way that you know that little that that small thing can affect like a lot and you know it can affect how a lot of people look at you um but yeah no i don't see nothing wrong with you know doing ticot it's definitely i mean it's free promo bro i didn't pay a dime to to post any of those and i got all that free engagement off of just solely posting those so yeah I mean, it definitely, it did a lot for me. So you started recording music in, like, 2017,

and then you started constantly, like, posting TikToks. And, like, when does management come into play? Like, when did you decide, all right, I might need a manager? Well, the TikTok, I was late to that, bro, because, you know, you did have that wave of, like, underground artists blowing up, like, 2020, 2021. I didn't, yeah, I didn't do that until, like, the year after 2022. Because I remember when all those artists were blowing up,

the first way I looked at it, I was like, this is corny, like, you know what I mean? But then, you know, you kind of realize, like, yeah, I don't know. I just had like a realization. I was like, all right, because I had tried to post TikToks before, and they didn't do anything. So I was like, damn, like, people not fucking my shudder, you know, this and that. And then that's when I, you know, a year later, I give it another try. I'm like, all right, let me just try it out.

But actually, so I actually got management right before. So I first linked my manager. in I think it was like May 2022. And then I had, there was this one song, I had posted a snippet on Instagram, went up a little bit. I had dropped that like a month after I, you know, first signed with my manager for like under a management deal. Because I never had a manager before, you know,

I was just doing everything solo for like, you know, since I started. And then, um, so, you know, obviously getting that manager helped a lot because he was just doing everything on the business side. Like it was kind of perfect timing because, he started managing me. Shit started going up. That's when labels start reaching out. And as soon as labels start reaching out,

you know, I had him doing all the talking and doing all the business side of shit because I mean, as an artist, bro, like I was super new to all that. I didn't know about business, the business side of things.

All I knew was talking to a mic and, you know, make music. So I didn't know anything about, you know, because a lot of artists get screwed, bro. They sign a deal and they get screwed because they don't know shit. They see a dollar sign and sign.

You know what I mean? So, yeah, no, it was kind of just perfect timing, getting that manager. When you get management, though, like from your perspective, what do they bring into the table that you didn't really have before that? I think just an extra hand, bro. I mean, obviously a manager, it's their job. You know, if you have a good manager, it's their job to push you, you know, the most they can because they're making money off you.

So at the end of the day, they want you to make money because that's where they're getting their money. So I think, yeah, if you have a dedicated manager, like it's just really, it's like an extra hand and everything. And they're obviously on top of helping you doing all this talking for you and doing all the business side of things, you know, they're pushing you. Like I have two managers. So I have my main manager who does like a lot more of the business. And then I have my day-to-day.

Who's Sean? He's out there. Okay. So yeah, he's my main manager is in Canada. So he can't be with me all the time. So, you know, I got Sean, which Sean have actually known for like five years. So, you know, I've been close. close with him damn near since I started.

So, yeah, you know, he just helps me out with everything on like a day-to-day basis type. So, yeah, no, I think it's just, it's definitely helpful. And they rep McCona as well? Yeah, my main manager does McCona. Okay. I think he's done Maconan for a while longer than, you know, I've been with him. Oh, interesting. So my favorite song that you got out right now is wait, wake up.

Yeah, what was the process of recording that? When did you record that song? Like, it was like October 22. It's funny, bro. That song was a throwaway. Like, I recorded the, I was at the studio. And I had just locked in with Benny X, like a week prior to this. And so he sent me a bunch of beats.

You know, he had sent me like probably 20 to 30 different beats. And so, like, that whole next week, I was just getting in the studio, you know, getting on, like, a couple of the beats. here and there. And then he sent me that one that was with Filthy and then his little brother. And so I was like, this one is hard. Like, I want to get on this, but I didn't have no clue like what to do on it. You know, I didn't have any type of idea for it or anything. So I was like, I'll just, you know, I'll wait so I get in the studio and I'll just try some shit on it. So I got in the studio and I pulled the beat up. I had my engineer pull the beat up. And I was just

like fucking around on it. And that like, hook that's on that song was just a, like a throwaway, just demo hook. Like, I was just trying to, you know what I mean? That's why it's like I'm not even really saying shit in that song. I was really just trying to find a flow and just find something that worked on that beat. Because that beat was hard for me to get on. Like, I didn't, you know, I didn't know what to do on it at first. So I ended up recording that hook and then I, you know, I came back in the room and I was like, all right, like, just save that, you know? And so that song was just a hook. And I did a TikTok, like where I just used this.

I sped it up a little bit, like just through like a, this little app I use where you can speed songs up. And I posted it on TikTok and the shit ended up just going crazy, bro. Like blew up crazy first day. And the first day it blew up, I was like, damn, okay, like we gotta do something with this. But there ended up being like a whole problem with the song where like somebody else had gotten on that same beat. same beat and they were supposed to drop it and they didn't know if they was going to drop it so I ended up having to wait like seven months until I could get that song cleared wait so the sped up version was the one that popped off yeah it was like sped up a little bit is that kind of insulting

since there's so many times that this happens in the culture now where like a sped up version of a song ends up being the viral one the crazy thing too so I went back to that song like six times before I actually fully finished it like there's six different versions of that song with like five different verses, you know what I mean, like before I actually finalized it. Like the original version that actually blew up. So when I had sent it to Benny X, the hook, he sent it back to me and he did like a demo where he put vocals in the background. So it was the song and it had Benyx's vocals in the background, like doing this like melodic vocal. And he was like, yo, like do this melodic vocal in the background. So I hadn't had time to go to the studio, you know, after he sent me that. So I

ended up just posting the video on TikTok and it had his vocals in the background. And nobody even knows that it's his vocals in the background. But yeah, I mean, the song was like kind of sped up. But that ended up blowing up. And then when I dropped the actual song, people were like, oh, we want the OG version. I'm like, bro, it's dead ass. I didn't change nothing with the hook besides it being sped up. And people are like, oh, sped up's better.

I'm like, bro, what? Like, it's literally, it's the same shit. Like, you know what I mean? So when you were like doing your whole thing musically, did you go out of your way to sort of tap in with the underground or like the new SoundCloud generation with like opening up for people like Ottoman shit or that was stuff you were listening to at that time?

Hold on before we get to that. Because Diddy Bob, he did his thing with the wake-up song. That shit came out of nowhere. So I didn't. He ended up doing that. That shit ended up blowing up. And then as soon as that shit blew up, bro, my label was on that shit. They were like, yo, like, we need this kid to keep doing this.

Because whatever he's doing, he's doing it right. And I didn't even know like that shit was going on when it first happened. because I was kind of, y'all wasn't on my phone as much at this time. Like, I was, you know, we were trying to play a tour and shit. And way after it came out too. Yeah, bro. Like, that song, it happened, what?

Probably like six, seven months after the song came out. I've been, like, during the summer. Yeah. So I remember when we were rolling loud, they kept trying to make you do the dance and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, bro. So, like, this was way down the line after the song dropped. And, you know, that shit kind of came out of nowhere.

But as soon as he did that shit and it blew up, my label was just on it. They were like, yo, keep doing it. Keep doing it. Yeah. And, yeah, bro, that shit just became what it is. What's your friendship with with Diddyball now since? I don't really talk to it. I mean, I've tapped in with him and told him I fuck with him and shit.

And we follow each other. But I've never, like, spoken to him like that. Like, how to combo with, bro. But shit, I fuck with, bro. He's cool. So open up for Autumn and shit? Like, that was already the scene that you were feeling at that time? I met, like, autumn shit.

Back in, when did I meet, bro? I think, like, 28. 18, 2019 is when I not met him in person, but like over the internet. I found like that whole scene. And he had like 10,000 followers at this time. And, you know, I started making like the plug and B shit and like that whole realm of music. Who got you interested in that? If we were just talking a little shot all about that.

It was summers and autumn that were like the first ones doing that shit for it. And Corey Lingo too. They use that genre as well though. Like they described their shit as that. That's plugging me. Yeah. Yeah. And Corey Linggo.

Corey Lingel. We just interview a little Sean too, and we in the interview. He gives credit to... Corey was really one of the first to, you know, to do that shit. He was doing real-ass, like, R&B vocals on it, though. Like, singing like Chris Brown on, like, plug beats. Yeah, Corey was on those...

In like 2018 for a minute, bro. So it was like, man, it was like him, summers, autumn, Texaco. Who else, bro? I mean, Cito was on plug beats at this time. Not plugging B, but, I mean, kind of. It was like... It was like a whole Zang game. wave yeah it's like Zangang Mexico dro yeah well really just really Zang gang

like that's that's the plug and B shit yeah he was doing the plug and B shit yeah like Groh and them were like more just the the bass plug like old Cardi plug type shit yeah but um yeah so I you know I found that music back in like 2018 and then I started tapping in with them like closer to 2019 and we were just in a bunch of group chats and shit like even Sean bro like me and Sean were talking when he was like a jit bro He was like 12, 13 years old. But yeah, bro, like, at this time, there were just this wave of group chats. Like, that was the thing at the time.

It was just group chats. So, like, everybody had these little collectives with their group chats on Instagram. So even, like, artists like Weiland and shit. Even Yeat, bro, like, I've known Yeats since, like, 2019, just through group chats. Really? Yeah, like, shit goes way back because he was in the same group, you know, just kicking it with the same folks. Summer's autumn. Yeah.

So when people say this. they feel like you sound like Yeat? Is that just them not seeing the influences that you both have from the same scene? I don't know. I just think that shit's funny, bro. I don't know. I think it's the white rapper thing, honestly. It's either that or it's just, I feel like if somebody says that, they just haven't

listened to enough of, like, that type of music. Because it's like they hear Yeat, because obviously Yeat is the most mainstream aspect that's came up from, like, you know, came up from the underground. And then they're like, you know, any rapper that, that's, rapping on a beat remotely similar or anything, they're like, oh, that sounds like heat. You know what I mean? Because it's, I mean, it's all

derived from the same flow and the same, you know, everybody's got the same influences. Like, we're all influenced by thug, we're all influenced by future, you know? And everybody, you know, obviously we did our own thing with it in that little, like, niche, that little niche pocket of things, but, you know, everybody's influenced by the same people. So it

comes from the same shit. That's like if you're like a drill rapper in Chicago coming up around like soon after Chief Keith blew up, it's like everybody who does doesn't really pay super close attention to the genre is going to tell you that you're trying to sound like Chief Keefe, even though to you it's kind of like this is a sound that this area has been cooking up

and this is just a natural evolution of it. Yeah, it's a whole bunch of subgenres to that shit too. Yeah. Yeah, even with the underground shit. Like, I don't even, bro, they got a million subgenres nowadays. Like, I don't listen to underground shit anymore really, but, like, should I be seeing new subgenres come up on TikTok like every day.

Right. Somebody's making something new or some, like, new. shit but it all comes from the same place you know it's weird because the era that people call like sound cloud rap for a while they're like we we all call it like cloud rap even though a lot of it didn't really sound that cloudy and but like and then when i look back on it i'm like people really refer to young lean as having like pioneered that genre but there's a shitload of sound cloud rappers that we kind of put into that box as well and then the mainstream narrative became oh this is sound cloud rap yeah like mumble rap and all that mumble rap people just say that all the fucking time

back in the day, bro. I was always doing interviews and having to defend mumble rap. But meanwhile, being like, what the fuck? Like, I know a lot of rappers. At that time, like, that shit was so new to people. Exactly. Yeah.

Like, what the fuck? Like, mumble rap. Yeah. Because that's the era of, like, yadi and Uzi. Like, Uzi refusing to freestyle. Yadi's saying that he didn't fuck with Tupac and all that kind of shit. Like, Lil Zan saying he didn't fuck with Tupac.

That was such an era of like old heads going to war with the young generation, you know? Yeah. And like I said, it's even kind of the same now, except the old heads are just like the next generation. You know what I mean? Like all the people who are used to listen in the mainstream, they hear all this underground shit. It'll always be like that.

This shit is trash. You know what I mean? It's the first reaction of defense, yeah. That's real. So what's your relationship with, like, Yeet now? I haven't talked to him in a long time. But, like, I, so obviously I knew him just from group chats and shit back in, like, 2019, early 2020.

And then when I had turned 18 in August 2020, I, you know, because before I was 18, bro, my mom never used to let me travel by myself or anything. So as soon as I turned 18, like, literally the week after my birthday, I took a flight out to L.A. Just to link, like, all my internet homies out here. We had, like, a little B&B in Orange County. And that's when I first met Yeat.

Like, we went, he was living in Long Beach at the time. We went, scooped him, and we were just kicking it at the B&B, just, you know, talking music shit. We were just, bro, we were just a bunch of, like, homies at this time. You know, everybody was just cool and kicking it. Like, I remember that's the first time I met Bristol, too, that same week.

out. Yeah. How much of an impact do you feel like you've had on his sound? Like how essential is this union that you guys got going on? I feel like even though we don't have like hellless songs together, but I'm really like, I give him a lot of like this dude be in a studio. Every time. Taste, taste shit, not to sound like I'm a fucking A&R why I sit back. The OMO cover was like his idea. Yeah, yeah. Like a lot of the, I don't know, I guess like a lot of the, the creative direction, even though that's like a, terrible umbrella of anything can mean a creative director but like i do yeah i do give him a lot of creative direction and shit and like he trusts my input on a lot of stuff because really when like bristow's hit bro he he like this dude listens to a million different genres of music like

he's tapped into everything so you know if i'm asking when it comes to like something creatively i'm always going to go to bristow and ask for his opinion on something because i just know Even his merch, like some of his merch I, like, came up with the designs and ideas for. Yeah, yeah. I don't just sit back and take all the credit for it. But, like, yeah. It's just like we're like a big friend group and everybody just gives input. Like I love having input from a hundred different angles, you know?

So it's like, yeah, you know, I'll go and ask around. But this dude is like the first person I go to anytime. So, yeah, he definitely, you know, has a big impact on a lot of the shit. It's crazy to see, like, like the people in the group chats that you was in back in the day because you got people like, So Fago, he was in there. Yeah, even, bro, Fago, like, I was in Fago's, not his first collective, but his second, or actually, shit, no, it was his first collective. He had a first collective, it was called Runner World.

And this was, like, he used to go by Trill, I think it was like Trillenese, Trilvenese, something like that. And he had just changed his name to So Fago. And he had started this collective called Runa World. And I remember I posted this one snippet on my Instagram, and all his fans were commenting on it. They were like, yo, you should get Fago on this. You should get Fago on this.

And I didn't know who he was at the time because, like I said, he was super small. He had like 2,000 followers at this time. And so, like, I looked, you know, because they were all tagging him. And I looked at his page and I was like, bro, this dude is hard as fuck. Like, his music is crazy. Why doesn't, you know what I mean? I was like shocked that he didn't have a bigger audience because this is when he was making all his old shit. Like, the shit sounded crazy.

It sounded so different from anything that was being made at that time, too. So I was like, hell yeah, I'm a lock in with bro. So like I hit him up and I ended up sending him that open and we got that song in. And then he was like, he hits me up like a day after we do that song. And he's like, yo, bro, you want to be in like my collective. I'm doing this little collective with a bunch of artists. Like we all just making music with each other type shit. So I was like, yeah, yeah.

So like he added me to this group chat and I was in that collective. You know, and there was like Bryce was in there, which is like his main producer. To this day. Yeah, to this day. Bryce is still his producer and I'm still like you know me and Bryce still be talking here and there but yeah yeah Bryce is in there shit wolf face Joey yeah he's going slump six like yeah just hella like random people where you wouldn't even expect you know what I mean which is like it's crazy because you look back at shit like that and you're like damn

bro like it's really used to be a little community and not everybody's you know doing their own thing and everybody's got their own path but it's cool to see like that everybody came up you know what I mean? Like, everybody that I was around came up. So it's like, it's really, it's like wholesome to see. Why are you in a finkle fall up? Um, shit, bro, honestly, I don't even know. It was about some dumb shit. Because I was like, I was like 16, 17 years old. And that he was young, too. And I think we just got into this big, like, argument in the group chat. And I don't even know, like, what it was about. I, I was dating this girl, like, in high school. And I had added her to the group chat. And then me and her broke up. I don't.

only dated her for like a month, but me and her broke up and then she goes in the group chat, like, talking crazy shit. You like girls in your group chats? No, no, no. I've never. That's the thing. No, no, hell not. Because that could get, like, they're already complicated enough.

You start putting girls in there. This girl was from my city. And I like, you know, I knew this girl. Like a real home girl. She was like, she used to listen to all the same music, you know, which was like rare at this time because nobody was listening to that shit. And so like I added her in the group chat. I was like, oh, yeah, like, I'll introduce you to all these dudes that you listen to.

I added her in the group chat, and then me and her broke up. And then she goes in the group chat, like, saying, like, oh, like, he broke up with me. Like, he fucking, he hates me. Like, he's not shit. And you know what I mean? And I come in there, and I'm like, what the fuck? Like, you know? And there's a bunch of, like, Captain Save a Ho-Haz dudes in there.

So they're saying shit. I'm like. Really? He's trying to riz up your old? Nah. Not, not Fago. But there was a bunch of other dudes in there that are on some Captain Save a whole shit

Because it's a bunch of young kids in there So you know what I mean? Like an attractive girl comes in there Like, you know, saying this and that Yeah, obviously all the young men are gonna go in there Turn on each other right away. Fuck him! So it's like, it's like yeah, bro, you know

And I don't even know like really what happened Between me and Fago. That's the thing. It was really nothing. So like, you know, obviously years went by And me and him were good. Like I just seen him, we did Cole's 10 year for lyrical and we were just in the green room chopping it up for a minute.

But yeah, yeah, yeah. Just some kid shit, bro. You know, I fell out with all those dudes and we're all cool now. And that when you've seen was all over. Yeah, yeah, even the producers, bro. Like, I fell out with them. And nowadays, you know, I be getting on their beats and we be chopping it up. When you're that young and people start getting money and having egos and all this kind of shit at the same time,

it's just like so inevitable. Because dudes don't really have like the social skills to know how to navigate that shit until they get a bit older, I think. Even me, when shit started happening for me, like, I wasn't necessarily young. I was like 19, but, bro, shit just happens so fast. A lot of people don't understand when, like, shit happens with this music shit. Like, when you get introduced to the industry shit, that shit happens so fast, bro. And sometimes, like, I mean, you see a lot of these kids crash out because it's too much for them. Like, shit happens so fucking fast and they don't know how to handle it or how to process it, bro.

And they get hooked on drugs or they get, you know, they doing shit that they shouldn't be doing. doing and they crash out about it. It's just, it's so much for them, and they're not used to it. A lot of these kids come from places where, you know, they come out to L.A.,

and it's fucking insane to them. They have access to so much more drugs. It's like a whole new world out here, bro, for a kid that's coming from like, you know, somewhere, like a random spot, like Louisiana coming out here. They're like,

what the fuck? Like, this is crazy. Y'all live like this? Did you get caught up in that when you moved to L.A.? Like partying too much and shit? Nah, I mean. Not really. I was always coming to L.A., like, growing up.

And especially when I turned 18, I was coming out here a lot. We kept a good circle, too. Yeah, yeah. I've always had, like, a good circle of people with me. But, I mean, we were, you know, I was partying when I was younger. But, like, when shit started going up and I was coming out here, I was really just focused on, like, staying on my shit and, you know, locking in. Because I already, you know, I had seen a bunch of kids that I was cool with come out here and crash out.

So it's like, I seeing them. I'm like, shit. I don't want to be like him. He's broke now. He can't do anything for himself. I knew girls who, like, moved out here, and then, like, six months later, they had to go home and go to rehab. Yeah. Like that fast.

Because they're, like, chicks who would, like, do coke and shit. But then all of a sudden, they're in the club, and they got rich guys, like, giving them coke. And it was just over. Man, those clubs are treachery. A slippery slope. I hate the club. Especially the ones here, bro. Oh, my God.

I'm so out of touch with that world, but for sure, it breeds some of the worst shit on earth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like, when... Some demons. Yeah, when I was coming out here, like, late 2020, like, I was kind of going to the club here and there because there were, like, a lot of events with, like, the people I was tapped in.

Or, like, even some of the label people, they'd be like, yo, come to this event with me. Because obviously, they're, you know, they're trying to bring you around and shit. They'd be like, yo, come to this event with me. So, you know, I was going to all this shit. Man, I've just got... That shit just gets burnt out so fast, bro.

Like, I'd rather be at the crib or be in the studio, like, working. Um, what was the... process of recording the Jensen song. Shit, I was just at home in my room. So that was before you was even like going to after studios and shit? Yeah, yeah, that was when I was still like at home.

I think that's the first song I seen. Yeah. When you did that, like, what year was this? That's 2022. A lot of those songs that, you know, I have out now are all from 2022. That all just started. Yeah, I haven't really like dropped anything new.

Like I'm, since we finished touring shit, I'm just now getting back into like dropping shit. So, but yeah, yeah, I just record. I recorded that like in my room with my little setup, just engineering myself. I just use FL Studio. You're a young Lean fan from back in the day? Oh yeah. Hell yeah, bro.

Like I said, because Lean was part of that whole like not, not, he wasn't part of the 2016 group, main group that came up, but like if you knew about the shit, you knew Lean because Lean influenced all those dudes. You know what I mean? So like, yeah. Yeah, nah. Hell yeah. You see the Young Lean BLP kosher video?

But that song is hard. I just heard that song is hard, bro. That was wild. It's just like it's so random to see like what shit He actually does He doesn't do features like that He doesn't do that much So when he does it's just like oh shit

And especially with like a rapper Like because he's so in his own world now Yeah No that shit is hard I just heard that shit the other day Yeah How was touring shit? You just got off the tour right? Yeah shit insane

Like you know being able to go All those places And fucking see like different fans from every fucking city and all these different, you know, in this country and the different countries and fucking Europe, you know, that shit was crazy, bro. I had a blast. It's very draining, definitely, because, you know, you don't get a lot of sleep. You got to stay on top of shit.

Excuse me. But, yeah, it's a blast at the end of the day. But were you, like, taking care of yourself, or are you just going for it and barely sleep in it? That's the name, bro. Like, when we were about to start. tour I was like I was like all right I'm gonna take care of myself like I told him I was like bro like no fast food no fast food we gotta you know we taking energy shots like little little immunity shots I was like we taking these every day bro I get on tour and we're eating at dunkin donuts every morning and fucking gas stations because it's like we what else you're gonna do so it's not a whole foods in every fucking city it's gonna go way out of your way and the problem is is that when the show's done and it's like 10 p.m.

bro it's like 10 11 p.m. nothing's open all that's open oh yeah but then also like like like all the chicks that are kicking it backstage with you and shit to them this is the only time you get me in town so they want to hang out till 4 in the morning and to you it's like if you want to do the thing to take care of your fucking mind and your body it's like you should go back to the hotel and just go to sleep or whatever but it's so back to the hotel it's so hard and especially when you haven't really like toward that much and shit so this is still all new to you yeah by the time you're 30 maybe you could like opt out but it's it's tough to make those decisions when you're young yeah yeah no definitely um yeah i mean i mean i tried to

you know, stay on my shit during tour, but like I said, for the U.S. part, we drove. We had just like a big sprinter van, so we drove completely across the country. And it's like, yeah, you know, we're driving late at night. There ain't shit open besides the gas station. And all, you know, the driver's just stopping at gas stations to get gas. So all I'm eating is fucking chips and just drinking mad water.

Yeah. No airwans in the Midwest. No air ones in the Midwest. You only drink water? You don't drink energy drinks? Um, I mean, there was like a little point in the, time actually recently just from tour I was drinking a lot of energy drinks but that shit gave me like super bad anxiety bro like it yeah I can't that shit like fucks with my

brain when you go to a gas station you need an energy drink what what which one are you drawn to just a rebel actually I like the I like the Celsius ones yeah me too those ones are good the Celsius ones and then they got those a G fuel ones too those are pretty good but I feel like those don't give me a lot of energy though like usually it would just be Red Bull or Celsius and then you have gamer or wherever you go like people just see that yeah I feel like you might be like ninja or something. It's a day's rug on my coat.

It's a different type of slug, though. People know it's like, you know what I mean? It said they're going to see Danny Mullen tonight. Oh, really? I fuck with Danny, bro. Yeah, that's the only. What are you guys doing with him? Oh, you can see him do comedy?

Oh, sick. He keeps telling me to go. That guy is insane, bro. Yeah, he's facing felony charges for the Tennessee shit. Yeah, but what did he do? He was like impersonating a doctor. Yes. And out here, it's like, impossible.

It's so hard. to get arrested out here unless you like shoot somebody or like sell crack in front of the cops or whatever. But out there? But out there? So much shit going on out here. They don't got shit going on. They're like, you impersonated a doctor. We're throwing the fucking book at you, bro. Sorry. Where did he do that at? In Tennessee.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. It just went out of the show about there. He's just thinking he's funny. They probably got his ass on the news in Tennessee for that shit. Oh, yeah. No, sure they ain't playing. Yeah. It's crazy. What's your all current thoughts on like the underground rap scene right now?

Um, shit, man. I don't know. Like I said, I really haven't listened to underground shit, like, in a while. I really just got back into, like, mainstream shit, and I, you know, I stay on that. They're doing the thing, though. Yeah, I see people coming up. They're doing their thing. Osama's selling hard. I fuck with him. I heard a couple of his songs. I hit him up. You know, I told him I fuck with him because, yeah, yeah, I fuck with his shit.

I don't know. I feel like I should pay more attention to a lot of that shit. But it's just, like, right now, the point I'm at, I'm really just trying to lock back in and focus on myself and like all my shit right now. Because, you know, like, tour ended, I really want to get back into locking back in and getting back on top of my shit. So, yeah, I've just been super focused on that, bro, and just listening to, you know, all the shit and, you know, all the mainstream shit. Because I'm trying to make more mainstream shit. Really? So you take more influence from the actual goats of the genre at this point?

100%. Yeah. Because I'm trying to take my whole sound. and make it mainstream. Like, I'm not trying to be, you know, tied into underground shit anymore. Do you consider yourself an underground rapper at this point? Yeah, yeah. You know, I came from the underground.

So, yeah, 100%. But, you know, I want to go on to bigger things. Like, I don't want to be boxed in and get stuck in that, you know, in that realm of shit. Because, I mean, it's cool, you know what I mean? Like, I could sit here and, like, keep making underground music and be financially stable for the rest of my life, you know, and be chilling where I'm at.

but it's like bro i want more than that not even like talking money like i just want more opportunity i want to go and work with i want to go and work with ferrell one day i want to go and work with all these people you know what i mean so it's like you can't do that shit if you're just stuck in one realm and you're not you know you're not moving around like i'm constantly moving around bro i'm constantly traveling um you know constantly like linking up with people i mean i really bro we'd be doing the most random shit me and him both like we'll end up in the studio with a random ass person and be like what the fuck today's already random we're going to be like what the fuck today's already random we're going shooting after this

yeah studio later yeah we be moving around bro I just I feel like when I'm stuck at home like I'm not being productive and I need to constantly stay productive but if you made a song that sounded like a straight up like pop attempt

don't you feel like you might be like alienating a lot of your fans like are you trying to kind of tow the line between those two things yeah that's the thing like you got to like so if you're transitioning in you know you obviously are going as an underground artist going into the mainstream. I mean, look at like Yeats a great example, bro.

Like, he does a lot more of the mainstream shit now. He has a mainstream appeal. Like, you know, everybody loves Yeats music. If we didn't already know that Drake's song really proved it too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. But he did that slowly. You know, he didn't go straight from making songs that sounded like For Life to songs that sounded like the snippets he's putting out now.

You know what I mean? Like he slowly kind of kept that sound. but manipulated it into newer and newer things and then got to where he's at now. So, you know, that fan base stayed every step of the way because he slowly just got everybody accustomed to that. Do you, is there, like, what's the biggest plug-and-bee song from your perspective?

Or, like, there hasn't really been that, like, smash hit out of that genre that realistically will, like, lift everybody up. I mean, there's really just, like, influential songs, like, Pac-Runner bitch by, like, Summers. Yeah, like, all, you know, there's a lot of, like summer songs and autumn songs like Nina for example. Yeah, Nina was like one of the ones that got super, super big. But it's like you're not hearing that on the radio.

You know what I mean? I feel like the thing is with the underground too is like it's so toxic. Oh yeah. It's just constant comparisons, constant like, oh, he's washed out. Oh, he wants to be like this. Oh, he's, you know what I mean? Like they don't let you just make music anymore. It's always like, oh, you sound like,

you sound like a mix of Travis Scott, Playboy. Cardi and fucking Mac to Marco. Like, what are you doing? Like, bro, what? But for the most part, you stay out of beef in the underground. You don't really. Man, I don't give a fuck. I make money.

Yeah. Yeah, that's why you just got to stick to yourself, bro. Yeah, bro. I have, like, a whole, like, life, you know? So I see that shit, I see, like, that beef shit is like, you're too into the internet, bro. Like, what do you see, what do you think about shit? Like, when you see Summers and Homicide Gang

getting into actual real beef at, like, box fest and shit. That's their own shit. Yeah. I can't say anything about it just because it's not my business. But, you know, that's kind of funny, though, because it's like in the underground, you kind of have, like, the more nerdy side of it. And then you have, like, the dudes who are basically street dudes. They just make music that kind of fits more into the underground, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that creates a weird dynamic. I don't know. Everybody's got their own thing going on. I just, like I said, I really just focus on my shit, end of the day. I don't be, you know, I got, and even outside of the music, like, I have a whole personal life, you know. So, you know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to buy a house right now. I'm trying to do a lot of shit that a lot of other people wouldn't be doing.

So, you know. Yeah, because at the end of the day, a lot of that beef shit is, like, very tempting to people. It doesn't really, like, affect your career in a good way. It's like, I don't give a fuck about somebody saying, fuck me on Twitter, man. I'm buying a crib. What is, like, you sitting in bed at your mama crib? What are you doing? So, yeah, bro, I don't, I don't give a fuck.

What's Travis got influence on you? Because I know you, you're trying to, you said that you want to transcend. Yeah, yeah. Man, I love Travis, bro. Like his music has been, you know, I've been listening to his shit. Shit, so I was eighth grade. I mean, I found Travis Scott when he dropped A-Team. That was like super old song.

What was that? Did he drop that after Al-Farrow? That was after, that was like, I think it was in between, like, rodeo and birds. Or if maybe it was after birds, I don't know. But I think it came out, like, 2017. So, yeah. Yeah, around that era, like the birds era. Yeah.

Yeah, I remember I used to party with this one chick that was just listening What was it before rodeo or beyond rodeo or some shit? Before the rodeo? Yeah, it was it? Oh, I said it wrong to. And I never thought that like, oh, this guy is going to be the biggest fucking rapper. I actually thought that she was kind of tripping for thinking it was so good. Damn.

I love that project, bro. That project is crazy. Why does I say Rodeo? Yeah, Mama Cita, Jersey should try, all that. Man, he just had so many gems back then. Like, man, I used to be so on top of Travis' shit. Did you think Travis? Even to this day, I'm, like, on top of his shit.

Like, I love Travis' music, bro. Yeah, but back then, did you see him getting to the level he's at right now? Yeah, I just feel like he always had that sound, bro. And, you know, his sound back then was the same thing. It was so different. So, you know, he just had, like, that mainstream appeal. And it's like, if you have that mainstream appeal, you're going to get big, you know? Also, if Connie's pushing it,

you know it's going to be fire. Like Kanye has that golden touch with every artist he keeps around. I feel like. Mariah Kardashian at some point. Yeah. That helps. Yeah. Definitely doesn't hurt.

You did this song with Destroy Lonely. Yeah. How did that come about? I had hit Lone up. This was like right when he got signed to opium. This was like, I think 20 or this was early 2022 actually. Yeah. It was 2021.

Was it 2021? Yeah. Yeah, it's 2020. Summer. Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, because I was in New York. Yeah. I had hit him up because this is when I had, like, just found his music.

And I really fucked with, bro, at the time. Like, I, you know, finding a new artist like that is always like, that's the best thing, bro. When you find a new artist like that. But, yeah, so I hit him up. And I was like, yo, like, I just bought a feature out, bro. I think I paid like 400 bucks for a feature. I was like, yo, get on this song. Like, throw you.

400 and so he got on it and we made that song and I dropped it on this little project I had put out in like 2021 okay yeah it was 2020 fuck I can't talk right now it was 2021 because that was that I had dropped a project called like um what was it called planet planet pink yeah so I had dropped that and I had that song with there with god damn I had that song with him on there and um like I had that that that project out for like two months and I don't really I don't really have any traction at this time so like you know shit had like 10,000 plays and um I was like yo fuck fuck this song like I don't like my verse on there I'm gonna delete it I'm gonna go back to it later and then I'm gonna hold on to it so I ended up like private in that tape and then um back like summer of 2022 I went back to the song readed my verse on there

held on to it because at this time Penthouse Shorty started going up. So I was like, all right, well now I got this song with Loans. Loans obviously way, way bigger now, you know, and Loans doing a lot more now. I'm going to hold on to this and I'm going to put this out. You know, I'm going to put it out like soon.

So I didn't even put it out like, you know, on all platforms type shit. I just... You had like a hosting page. Yeah, like, you know, a lot of the dudes that I was fucking with had like hosting pages on SoundCloud. So I would just send them songs all the time.

And, you know, they were doing and all like loan shit too like they did everybody's shit they did loan they post a bunch of cdo exclusives like yeah so i um you know i would just send them songs all the time and i was like yo here like drop this one and i think one of them dropped it and yeah shit did it really good and that's kind of just how that came to be so yeah but i never put that shit out like officially type shit yeah you got so you in a loan y'all you want to work with them in the future or yeah 100% bro i fuck with loan heavy yeah like i've always fucked with his music ever since i've discovered him but yeah 100% i would do shit with him you feel like autumn gets the credit you deserve

autumn yeah yeah yeah you feel like you got autumn's doing this thing yeah i feel like that's that's definitely a regret i have is that i should have been on them in like 2018 2019 like when they first started coming out i had kind of like lost track of what was going on the underground i should have been pushing hard for those types of interviews you know yeah i mean it was really really small at that time. You know, you know what fucking like ignited that shit? Like kind of brought the underground a little bit was the Gabby shit. That was the first thing I saw you guys cover about like summers or anybody from that shit. That was really the thing that like that brought light to the underground, bro. It did. Also TwistyP. Yeah. Oh, yo, you gotta tell our TwistyP story.

It's always so. Before TwistyP was on Yit, bro, there's a video of him crash in a car. old song of mine. Real. With the same alien filter. Two videos, bro. That's legendary. So he has the Yoda film. You've never seen that video of him crashing a car with the Yoda Phil time?

I think I do remember that. That was my song playing in that video. I remember when that shit happened, somebody DM me and they're like, bro, Twistie P just fucking crashed the car to your video. And I'm like, what the hell is Twisty P? You just got in the Twizz face tag. I was like, who the hell is that, bro? Like, what are you talking about?

He's like the crit mac of the underground. Dude, they sent me the video and he, like, literally wrecks a car. He's got my song playing in the background. So I post that shit. I'm like, yo, this dude is tweaked out. Like, this dude's funny as fuck. And I think he hit me up. Yeah, he hit me up.

And he was like, yo, bro, like, I was shooting a music video in Arizona. And he was like, yo, bro, I want to be in your music video. And I was like, fuck it, bro. Pull up. So he drove from Sandy. Let me tell you the story. Actually, this is insane. He didn't make it smoothly to Arizona.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We all pulled up to Arizona for that weekend. Dude, no, no, no. So do you remember what happened on his way out there? Yeah. Took like two cars to get there. It's fucked, bro.

So I used to kick it with this one dude who was pretty big on, like, TikTok. He just did, like, a lot of TikTok shit. And I'm actually, I'm still cool with him to this day. I don't talk to him as much anymore, but we're still close. But, yeah, yeah. So I was kicking it with, bro. And he had been talking to Twisty a little bit because at this time, Twistie was kind of getting, like, people knew about him, but it was super low-key.

Like, I remember that. the first time I seen him he popped up on my TikTok and everybody was like, whose fucking dad is this, bro? Like, why are you making TikToks to eat? Because he looked like such a jock. Dude, he looked like a frat. He was a baseball friend. Yeah, yeah.

You could tell that it wasn't like some emaciated lean drinker. He looked like a big strapping young buck. At this time, too, it was like, it was a lot of kids just listening to like blowing this shit up at the time. So when you see this big dude like making a fucking TikTok to eat, you're like, yo, what the fuck? But anyway, so he hits me up. And he's like, yo, I want to be in your video.

So I'm like, shit, all right, bit. Like, pull up. Dude, this guy calls me at two in the morning. I didn't think he was serious. I'm like, oh, bro, you live in San Diego. Like, you're not, I was shooting this video tomorrow. You're not coming out here. Like, you know what I mean?

I'm thinking he's just fucking around. Bro, he texts me at 2 a.m. And he's like, on my way. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, all right, bro, bet. So he didn't have a car. So he had his friend drive him. He like, I guess he just asked one of his friends, like,

yo, drive me out to Arizona. So halfway into the drive, bro. his friend wants to sleep so he lets twisty drive he fucking wrecks his friend's car bro totals his friend's car in the middle of the desert middle of fucking nowhere on the the road from san diego to fucking arizona totals his car right and i guess he wasn't like that close with this guy like i don't know who this dude was but he wasn't that close with him so he totals his car his friend's like freaking out he's like bro like what the fuck you just crashed my fucking car you know what twisty does

He's like, damn, bro. Calls an Uber, keeps coming to Arizona. Damn. He just left his friend with a total car to come to Arizona, bro. That's a man on a mission. He gets out here. I have to pick him up. I picked him up from, like, the first gas station when you get into Arizona, bro.

And I'm like, bro, how the fuck did you get out here? And he's like, oh, I just Uber. Like, I just left my friend. I'm like, bro, like, what? You just left him? Like, you don't care about, bro? And he's like, no, he'll be all right. He's all good.

Bro, I guess his friend was, like, tweaking out. and showed up at his parents crib, like two days later, knocking on their door, like, yo, your son totaled my fucking car. Like, he ain't left me, which is crazy. Bro, it was just a whole crazy scenario. The more I think about it, the more I think we should have him back on. Oh, dude.

The last couple years has been like, really? Yeah. The crazy shit, too, is that he, so they were doing the live stream podcast with Blasie and housephone and shit, and TwistyP was supposed to pull up. So he pulls up, and somebody was waiting for him, and they beat the fuck out of them. That's that one interview, y'all.

Yeah, and then he came on camera and his face was all fucking bloody and shit. You've never seen that where he runs in here and he's like, he's like, yeah. Yeah. No, what? It's at the old spot, bro. Like, somebody hit him with brass knuckles and shit. We didn't have security or anybody at that time. His, like, tweaker, his full, like, prime tweaker era.

Yeah, like, 20-20. He was, like, really letting loose. And then it's kind of a shame because Blasie, like, turned off the live stream because he felt bad about it. But I would have just talked to the motherfucker even with the bloody face. I would just talk to him. So that week, he was in Arizona with us that week. And like, he's like a big kid, bro. Like at this time, too, he wasn't, he was, so he was on, I'm not even going to say, but, you know, at this time, he was more, like, grounded.

He wasn't, he wasn't the twisty P the internet saw. Like, he was very, he was just like a big kid. Like, he obviously, you know, like, he needed some guidance. But, you know, he was cool. And we were there, you know, we were taking care of him, bro. Like, I sent him to my home boy Jay's crib. And, you know, Jay was taking care of him. care of him and every day I was going to

fucking link with them bro and we were just fucking what did we do we brought Went to a couple parties Yeah went to you had like a fucking house party show that we yeah Bro so I performed at this fucking like house party in Arizona Like the most just fucking like random shit ever I was standing on top of like a kitchen countertop Like performing with a mic that didn't even work

Yeah I was just playing songs you see Twistie in the middle with his shirt off like Mosh fucking moshing with a bunch of life man in 18 year olds bro like 17 18 year olds that are in there and he's fucking tweaking out bro like it looked so insane but yeah no we we kicked it out there with him um

kind of just took him around Arizona and then uh that's when he went back home and then like two weeks later bro is when all the he went up it just went yeah he went up and shit went downhill yeah bro basically all the viral shit was all like pretty bad for him overall I feel

bad bro like he's a good kid he's a good person he had like just the wrong hand you just got let the internet wrap him up yeah because he like his mom is the nicest lady ever too bro like she's very very nice like really tries to take care of him and shit he just i think it was just a mix of like bad influence bro and just getting carried away and then not even drugs bro he he didn't even do drugs or anything like because i remember everybody would be like oh he's on drugs bro he just genuinely like he's not mentally there like i remember thinking thinking that he was on drugs and then having people kind of correct that being like yeah he's just he's just like that he had like an accident like uh i mean everybody knows this now he had like a baseball accident so like that's that's kind of what led to that shit but yeah bro like i don't know he's a good kid bro he just like i said just mix a bad influence and getting carried away with shit definitely so what uh what do you got coming up they're excited about that the fans should look out for um shit bro just new music new videos everything. So yeah, I'm just really trying to stay on top of shit with just being consistent

and really just taking my time to work on music. Like, I think a lot of the music I was making before I wasn't taking my time on as much as I do now. Like I'm, you know, I'll be in the studio, I'll go back to songs 10 times over. Really just having like a full creative process with everything I'm doing. Definitely. What, uh, are you trying to like, have an official album at any point in the future or what's your thought process on that yeah yeah so i mean the the on my own album was kind of like i'd say like my first it was like my first studio album so you count that as an album okay i count that as a studio album because that you know i fully did that album in the studio um but you know the work that i'm going to put out from like here on is

way more you know obviously i'm trying to like i said i'm trying to take the more mainstream approach with shit um and trying to really Really just like take the like I said take the time with my shit and put a lot more a lot more components into my music Yeah more polished. Yeah more polished bro like more worked on you know what would be your dream mainstream feature? Shit Drake bro. Yeah, I grew up on Drake so that's like yeah most definitely Other than Drake probably shit future thug Don Tolliver really like Don Tolliver's music Yeah bro there's a lot of a lot of dudes that I fuck with

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