No Jumper - Donte Deayon On Winning a SB With The Rams, Hard Knocks, Overrated NFL Players, & More

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

Donte Deayon talks to Flakko and Josh about his rise to fame, support system, wins, losses, getting drafted, Super Bowl and much more! https://www.instagram.com/goodeatz_nd/ ---- 00:00 Intro 1:35 - Donte’s background, growing up playing football in the Inland Empire, playing at Boise State and now in the NFL 4:57 - Starting football at 8 years old. Always being small. Avoiding distractions in the streets 7:40 - Why Donte decided to play football at Boise State 10:26 - Challenging Flakko’s claims of being a world-class athlete. Reviewing the footage of Flakko vs Josh running routes 13:07 - How being a student of the game helped Donte through college and get into the NFL 15:35 - Overcoming doubts about his size from high school through the NFL 21:15 - How Donte’s career might have been different if he were taller 23:42 - Donte relives his pick 6 against UConn 24:39 - Getting picked up by the Giants on draft day 28:42 - How Colin Kaepernick and kneeling during the anthem affected NFL teams and players 33:30 - Getting his first check from the NFL for $4700 39:50 - Donte explains what it was like getting cut from the Giants 47:26 - What it was like being featured on Hard Knocks 54:50 - Being on the Rams under Sean McVay when Todd Gurley got hurt 56:04 - Playing against the Ravens after Lamar Jackson got hurt 1:01:44 - Being consistently disrespected by his Madden rankings 1:08:45 - Donte remembers the moment he knew they had a shot at winning the Super Bowl in 2021 1:13:51 - Donte relives winning the Super Bowl with the Rams at home. Shows off the Super Bowl ring 1:19:04 - Donte introduces his lifestyle brand “Good Eatz.” Youth outreach and new partnership with Bakers in IE 1:22:30 - Reacting to viral moment of a kid talking sh*t to Cam Newton at his own camp 1:23:30 - Gifts for Flakko and Josh 1:27:00 - Ceetle on how he developed his work ethic from watching Hit Boy grinding in the studio --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, coolest podcast in the world, man. We're with Dion, man. How are you feeling, man? It was good. Wait, first of, do you prefer Dante or Dion? Dante. Nihan. Yeah, Don't.

All right. Neon, Dion. I mean, right. Got a lot of, you know, nicknames. Nah, because this guy right here has kind of like conditioned me in, like, in a thinking your first name was actually Dion. Yeah. It's not. That's because that's how I refer to it to him.

He referred to me as Dion. That's my last name. But by this guy, we're talking about Mel, who's been here before. You feel me? And he was on the Monday show, I believe, a few months ago or a month ago. Yeah, we did episode five, the Monday show in the old building. God damn, bro. A couple weeks later, came back, brought a Tori Hardo for the interview that got done.

Which, I thought that was like a great interview. I don't know if a lot more people need to probably look into it. You did a great job on now when y'all content was funny. Man, definitely. And we brought the sport officiato of no jumper, the sports guru, Mr. John. Joshua A. Yeah. I don't want to say, say your, you know, full government.

You feel like we need it. I feel like we need the ESPN thing for Johnson. Da-na-na-na-na-na. Because he don't pop out like that. Lerogal. Yeah. No, Flacco asked me to hop on with you guys. And I couldn't say no.

He hasn't ever asked me to do this one. And I was a little excited to do it. Oh, that's fine. I appreciate it. That's love. I want to get back into swinging things, too. It's the sports content on the channel. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You listen, we should definitely, like, do more. But, like, that's a different, you know, you know, like subject, right? But yo, introduce us, man. Yo. Mr. Dante Dion.

Who are you, man? Yo, it was good. I mean, Dante Dionne from Rialto, California, the Inland Empire, not too far from here. Just where do we start is the real question. I was pretty saying, because it sounds like. Where do we start is the real question. No, but man, I'm excited, outgoing. You know, always up for it.

I'm turned. You know, real, I try to stay, you know, humble down the earth. Boise State Alumni. Wait, hold on. We go. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet.

Not yet. Not yet. Don't trade. But no, I give you a little background. I started playing football when I was eight out in the Inland Pire growing up. The AIE. The AIE.E. Yeah.

So I went to Summit High School. That's in Fontana. And then from there, I went, got a scholarship, went to Boise State. played there for four years, and then, you know, did my thing. Like you say, leaving legacy, I was able to leave my legacy up there. Still got good ties with those guys up there. And, you know, playing on that smurf turf was special. You know, that blue turf, like nothing else.

So from there, I went undrafted to New York. I was with the New York Giants from 2016 to 18. And then from there, I got released, was down, got called from the L.A. Rams. the end of 2018, and then I've been there the last four years, and it's just been nothing. A blessing, man. Yeah. How was growing up in the IE? Or growing up in, no, you're from a Rialto?

Rialto? Yeah. But that's in the I.E., right? Yeah. The L.A.M. the fire is like a whole, you know, gang of scene. It's a lot of people that come from out of Rialto, though, like, quiet as kept. Like, Kaya got people down there, Jazzy Faye come out of there.

A lot of football players. I was going to say, there are a bunch of football players that come out of there. No hit boy. Yeah, it's a lot of people. It's love out now, you know. And then even coming up now, it's a lot of younger dudes that are now on big platforms, you know, that's at universities,

the Ohio states of the world. You know, Alabama, Clemson, they got these guys all over the country now, and it's just, it's been exciting to see it grow. And I feel like we are part of a staple of that, you know, helping the community grow with sports and through everything we'd be doing. Man, how was your upbringing, man?

In other words, folks would have known how was the streets, man? Yeah, so I mean, I'm the youngest of four boys. So, you know, me and my other brothers, my mom, you know, it's just, you go, you take your ups and your downs with it. Circumstances, they don't make you. You know, you can't let them define you. They make white want to say single parent households, you're going to end up this way or you're going to turn out this way, looking in your future. And it's like, I'm here to tell you and prove to you.

You can get over that. You can do more than what they say you can and break those barriers, you know, through the ups and the downs and having a tight circle and people around you that really support you as big. Of course. Now, was your father there at some point in the left or was that nigga just never there in your life? Yeah.

So, like, me, we got a good relationship. He's still in my life now. But, like, it's cordial. It's not like he was in the household. But, you know, we still communicate here and there and all that. So. Man. Now, you got into.

football at eight. Was you one of the only siblings that got into football or was it just a football family? So I got into it when I was younger than a couple years later than, you know, my mom was able to afford my older brothers too to play because, you know, that's how I go. I mean, it's four boys. She can't afford on what income can she afford four of us to play these sports and, you know, be able to pay for it. And just coming from that, knowing that is half a while and what drove me now is what I do now in football and do sports in my older brothers in all. Yo, facts, because you're actually like five foot nine, right? 10-ish old-held.

So I would assume you were probably like one of the smallest kids in one of the football field even back then, right? So how did you realize, damn, yo, if they're here, like the first time playing football at like eight years old, was you just a natural, God-given talent, which is out here, like, just causing havoc, or did you kind of grow into that? Well, like at eight or nine, like you guys are more or less the same size, too, right? There's not this huge height weight thing. Yeah, so he's right.

So, like, at eight, nine, but you got to think when I was four or five, I'm still, I was still trying to get out there and play with, like, my older brothers in the front yard or in front of the apartment complex. Like, we plan throw up tackle. You out there. They're like, nah, you're too small, bro. You got to watch us. You got to sit this one out.

So just going through that before I got my chance to now, yeah, I'm with some kids my age. telling me I can't play with y'all because y'all older but I'm with some kids my age now and that's just how I start growing not facts now growing up in I.e. playing sports was you ever I guess tempted to go another route or was sports just your main focus always? Well that's that's part of it that's part of it. That's part of it like sports was it but there's people around you there's influences other things that can deter your path, but you don't necessarily even know you're on that path. You're doing it out of the love of the game. You're not like, I'm going to make this a career for the rest of my life when you're at, you know, 12, 11, 13, 14. Now you're getting

into high school. Like, you're not thinking of it that way. But like I say, them circumstances, you just stay focused. You stay on your grind and you've got a support system that can help you. It's real big. And that's another thing that he's always had, like, a good quality that he has. his determination and focus to something when he pretty much sets his mind to something. His energy is crazy. He'll go all the way through with him. You know what I'm saying?

A lot of people don't have like the follow through to get things done and everything. And that's like since I've known him, there's never been a problem with him. Yeah, caught it being relentless, you know? I'd be relentlessly. Was that determination and everything, one of the reasons you wanted to get out of state

would go in Boise State? Were you trying to get as far away from here as possible to get away from those distractions or were you looking for any opportunity? Yeah, so my thought process was like I went and took an unofficial visit up there. When I first got like in communication with them and they were like, hey, we're thinking about offering you. I'm like, Boise State, what is that? Where is that?

I don't. Oh, snap. But I've always seen the blue turf on the river. Yeah, I've always seen that. Right? So get up there and then I'm like, whoa, this is different. It's a college town. There's a support system.

It's like the biggest thing. the town, the coaches, everything, the atmosphere, what they was preaching, being an underdog, blue collar, chip on your shoulder. Like, their principles and stuff, their preach. I was like, yeah, that's the long of my life. I'm always counted out. I got to grind. I'm undersized.

I got to go get it. I got to prove to everybody, but not so necessarily everyone else, but to myself that I could do this, and I'm good enough to do it. So going to Boise State was like going from a big city, you know, being able to go to L.A. to I. to a straight college town. I'm like, oh, yeah. So that feel, yeah, definitely get away. Like, it was dope.

Like, and I always had that thought process. I want to get out and go to college. Like, I want to go. That's what I was going to say. It's like, I was going to California, to Idaho. Yeah, like, oh, I'm going to college, y'all. I'm going off.

Another person that went to Boise from Rio Alto, Ryan Clayty, too. Yeah, Ryan Clayton. Yeah. Shout on Clayley. Yo, who's that? Ryan Clayton. Ryan Clayty, he's from Realto. He got a little brother than Chris Clayty.

He went to Boise, won a Super Bowl with the Denver Broncos. He grew up with some of my people and them out there in Rio Alto. Yeah. Cool dude. Now that's crazy. Now in high school, you had like a bunch of receiving yards, rushing yards, and defense as well. So I guess like what kind of led into the choice for you to say, you know, I'm not going to, you know, stick with offense?

I'm going to, you know, be like a defensive back when, you know, I go to college. So like you say, it was that. came down to that decision making of now I'm thinking about my career. Now I'm looking ahead to the future. Like, do I see myself being able to last X amount of years playing receiver at my size? Yeah. Possibly. But I'm not for two.

You feel me? I'm not four to. So I just like, I just. And then I'm always like, I'll definitely go rather hit somebody. Yes, come on. I'll go put on my pads and I'll go hit you before. Physical. You know, I let you hit me.

Yeah. You know what I mean? So that was really my decision. Nah, that's kind of crazy, man, because, yo, like, I'll be real, man. Like, if I'm somebody who is, let's say again, I told them, right? Seeing him made me say, yo, like, I can probably make the NFL like one day, feel what I mean? Or lost up. Lots of things that he can cheat any WMBA player.

A fact, come on. A WNBA player, come on, yo. Nah, I know some of them, man. I know so. They know somebody. Light it up. I heard Flacco call himself a world. class athlete. I don't know how many

times. I mean, you got to see him move. Now, you see like a in, he's confident because he got the quote-unquote best of me in like the rock running, right? Oh, what happened? No, what happened? I had a piss poor quarterback. I had a pissport quarterback.

So y'all lie to one. You want to pull it up, rally? Yeah. I got, listen, I got open every play. I got open every rock. Yeah. Wide open every wrong.

The piss poor quarterback couldn't let it go, man. You feel me? You know, for that. He had a great quarterback, by the way. Shout to Vell, man. That's my guy, man. So he had a good quarterback? No, so pretty much,

so I'll play all, you know, just all offense and he played all defense. Okay, okay, okay. And the quarterback didn't let it go, man. Watch that. Okay. I also had slides on and threw him off and played in socks. Look, bro.

I'm telling him to ride. Watch his first throw right here. I'm telling him, just throw that shit on my, watch, open. Come on, bro. Okay. That wasn't bad. But watch the second one.

Watch this cover. Yeah, hey, bro. Y'all need me to be QB the next one. Oh. I'm going to watch a bad pass. Oh, that's a good play. No, he finished the play. His touch that.

He finished the play. Hey, that's a good. Bro, he finished the play. If it's an out rock, right? Oh, you just bomb that's right. You're going to sit here and argue with an end-and- Okay, hit you a stride. Hit you a stride.

Get through a short eye. Come on, man. Like, come on, come on, bro. You see what they do? Yeah. He's going to argue with an NFL player. See what I mean? See what I mean?

That's what they do. Because he's confident that he could beat you too. Yo, dude. Now? Bro. Right now. No. Soon as he looked at him back in the back to him.

I could have made it. I could have made it. If I train for five months, not. Like, he's not, you know. Five months? That's all you need. That's all you need. That's all you need.

That's all the process. That's all you need, five months? That was like two, three months ago, and I think you gained wasted. He did. He was like, yeah. He definitely did. He put some pounds on. He told me he was going to start hitting the gym and working out and everything.

Well, all for me, though. Let's get back to Mr. Hagan. Now, at what stage, though, did you, like, realize, yo, listen, like, I might be nice enough to really, like, make the NFL. Like, was it high school or was it college? Like the process that I took in high school, that now I'm able to say that it led me through to the NFL, but not knowing at that moment, but it was through high school. It was the studying of the plays. It was learning different defenses. It was learning offenses, knowing blocking assignments, knowing everybody else's job as well before I even got on the field.

So that process then led to college and the success I had in high school. school, I was able to do it again in college because of the process, not just, oh, the results. Yeah, I was up there snapping. Yeah, I was snapping. But it's not, it's not that easy. It wasn't easy. Yeah, it wasn't easy. It was just like that grind of everyday, this is my process, this is my dedication is how it led me to the NFL. And you think that like that longevity came more from the mental game than, you know, the talent because like you said, Flocko, I don't, you know, there's an obvious weight difference. Of course. I think a natural talent. I think a natural talent. But he was talking about studying plays and everything,

and that's where I heard you was not going to go sad. That's where you were at. Yeah, I was done. Because that's so much of football that's so different than I think any other sport is how mental and how knowing all those assignments on both sides of the ball, every single play, knowing all those audibles. That's a lot that go into it, man. Yeah, and then you catch people who they tell you, well, I don't do all of that,

but then like you say, the longevity side, it comes up, it catches. It catches up because it's going to show, you know. Just look at critical moments and critical games and, like, ask that, hey, how did you look? All week, I've been talking about it, ooh, and then it came to fruition. I studied, I studied the plays. I was waiting for it. Yeah, I knew he like to.

I was knowing. As soon as he slid this way, they had the back week, they had X cut. Oh, I knew when they have X cut, usually they got him out Y every time. As soon as they cut him down, now I know this is what they're trying to do. This is their mindset. And you're going against, like, offensive coordinators, quarterbacks, playing defense. That's the part I like about it. It's like those dudes are trying to dial you up at corner.

Like, oh, hey, we got number 21 or we got it. We got them. Let's call this play because we're going to get him. And then you shut it down and you like, you look up like, oh, y'all tried that? Okay. Okay, that's what you're trying all right. Wait, though. So what was your biggest weakness going into college?

I wouldn't say it's a weakness. It's just my – look at me. It's just – my size. That's what they put on you. get what I'm saying. That's why I'm here to show that the barrier is more than just saying I see him, oh, he can't do it. Because like you say, you look at me now.

This is six years after playing in the NFL. I was getting this in high school that you were too small. I was getting coaches and stuff telling you, ah, he's too small. Not even seeing like, oh, wait, we got the potential to put weight on them or get them stronger, getting like, nothing. And that's got to be the best feeling, though, to like, at every level be told something about yourself and then disprove the people wrong at every level until you get to that class, so to speak, of like, it's only so many people that make it here.

Yeah. You know, like, that feeling it has to be like such a feeling of like satisfaction, just general... Vante Smith, right? Yeah. Well, like, he was like six for one though, so like that's... A little taller. Yeah, right?

So like, even though he's small, like, they could build him out. You were probably like, what, five, what? Five, seven, five, seven, five, seven and a half. And then grew, because you're like... About five, nine and a half, five, nine and a half. Five, ten, five, eight. When I got on my pads on, about five, eleven, yeah. I'm out there, like, so it's not about the height either

because then it's like, I could jump. I go high point the ball. That's one of the biggest things about football that you see now. Look at the dbs. Yeah, you can play through the hands, but your wrist factor, you got to go play that ball at times. Like, you have to. Yeah, you play.

through the hands a lot, get them breakups. That's good. But some of them times, bro, go make the play. You got to go play that right. Yeah. Go get it back. Now, let's like deep dive into your college career, right? So how was that?

Did you, like, come out just starting right away, or did you, like, have to work your way on? So naturally, like you said, I stepped on campus, the lightest dude on our team. Boom. Already our strength and condition coach, he owned me. He owe me. Ah, well, we got to put some weight on you. We got to, ooh. I'm just like, I ain't even here yet.

We got to do this? I'm like, but so my freshman year, I started out this season, redshirting. So I was redshirting, and then we got to a point where I was still making plays in practice all through fall camp, all in practice. And if you know, so when you red shirt, your scout team goes against your number one offense. So every day in practice, you're going, you're the one giving the looks for your number ones that's going out there that put the performance. on game day. So I'm still making plays against them. And then towards the end of the season, someone got hurt.

And coach was like, I know you've been red shirt in, but do you want to burn it? Do you want to burn it? I feel like you give us the best chance to come in here. You'll be the nickel. You come in on third downs. You give us the best chance to try to win this Mountain West championship because we're in line for it. And I'm like, say less. This is what I came here to do.

Bet, let's go. And then from that point, I've been playing ever since. So my red shirt freshman year, at the end of the season, I played five total games, four or five games. I had a pick in one of them. And then coming in sophomore year, boom. And then I took the starting job. And then I was starting since then. Yeah, it's just been a rap ever since.

Yeah, it's been going crazy since. I mean, it's been ups and downs with, like, you know, injuries and things like that that you can't control. But other than that, like, play on the field is just being all lights out. And off the field, too. Like, you know, like a lot of the big. names in the NFL, like, love this dude. You know what I'm saying? Henn and Odell Beckham been like that, him and Jalen Ramsey, like, all these guys.

So, you know, when he did hard knocks and everything like that, like you can see like he just, like you said, his energy, you know. He has like an electric personality, like people are just drawn to him. So it's a lot of things even when it's not involved like play that he brings to the environment that gets other people going and et cetera, you know? Yeah, big facts. Got to bring that every day. Yeah. All right. Before, because I definitely want to get on to the heart.

hard-knock stuff, but what is it about the blue turf? What's so special about it? Is it a distraction? Do people get mesmerized by it, or is it really just like a gimmick? So what I would say is, it's a mystique to the blue turf. No, but hey, the blue turf is just something about it. It's hard to explain. Maybe I could take you out to a game.

You know, we could go see one of the Boy You Say games, go up there and actually get the feel of atmosphere and everything about it. Yeah, you got to get that experience because I'm telling you, it's just something about it. And other people who come to play, like you say, we're getting their heads with it. They're like, true story. The Mount West had banned Boise State from wearing blue jerseyses

with blue pants and conference games on the blue turd. Because of you're blending in. You could create plays to blend it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So that's a true story. And it's like, that alone means you're in somebody. Yeah, you're already in their way. That's not going to be.

I feel like they should be allowed to wear those. You're the other team. You just need to be on your game. Yeah. You got it. Everything can be used as an advantage. Like, I don't see that being nothing illegal. You know what I'm saying?

If it's bothering, if you're visually impaired, you got other problems to wear it. Like, come on, Oregon's colors on eight green grass. Hey, you'd be like, hold on. They blend it in. Never had a problem. Never had an issue. It's actually a really good point. Nah, man

Wait, hold up though So, and he actually mentioned Jalen Ramsey Be honest, bro. If you were six foot three, do you feel like you will be an NFL superstar right now? I don't think he's worried about what he was in his life, man.

Right. And that's the thing. That's what everybody will always want to know. Like, if you were taller, do you think this? But if I was taller, it wouldn't have went how I went. My mindset probably wouldn't have been the same.

I wouldn't have been like, all right, I'm a show. y'all when we get on the field every every time i get out there i'm gonna show y'all my mindset might not been like that i might have just been like i'm not dude dog y'all can't mess with me just to add just to add like you know he uh he an NFL superstar either way it goes yeah you know what i'm saying like just just on the point of coming from where he come from being able to be dedicated enough to stick everything out overcome the eyes that was placed in front of him making to a league of people where only a certain amount of people

even going to ever make, you know, make this league with his size and everything else that, like, people would try to, you know, downplay or play against him or whatever. So, like I said, that's one of the things that I find surreal, just even knowing him and being around and everything, I'll have those moments still, like, you know,

my guy is in the, like, he plays the NFL. You know what I'm saying? Like, because we watch, we all grow up playing football, watching football, and we all had the moments, the sideline, pop, the killer, you know, it was what we all wanted to do thought we'd be able to do at some point.

So just for him being able to actually accomplish all those things that he set out for himself to be able to do, that's where I look at, you know, his start-um comes from right there. Listen, like, that's not, listen, like, that's absolutely true, right? Just coming from where you come from making a league, it's a big accomplishment. Now, I feel like the height improvement would have probably, you know, have got you more opportunities, right? Meaning like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right? No doubt.

Yeah, yeah, early off, for sure. But recruitment, that's what I'm saying, like, recruitment would have been different. my process would have all that would have been changed. Foster recruit, of course. Yeah, like, you know, all that type of stuff would have been different. But it's like you say, even my path being able to cross pass with some of the NFL greats now that, you know, Aaron Donald? Yes.

My football career has crossed past with Aaron Donald. Yeah. You know, Jay Ramsey, you know, it's like their stories, all these people is just like, my path has crossed past with theirs and that's what's truly special as well. Like, you know, winning with those guys and, you know, being able to bring winning and championships to an organization. Yeah. Now, give me your favorite moment in college and then we're going to transition into the NFL.

Okay. Oof. Favorite. Ooh, that's tough. Probably, probably, I had a pick six against Yukon. Mm. And it was against this dude named Jeremy Davis. He went to the NFL.

But I just know, remember leading into that week they were, you know, talking and hyping him up. And then like we had a play where he ran a slant. We both kind of caught it at the same time. Yeah. Boom. And I ripped it from him. Spent out.

Went for six, took it for six. And that pick six moment, I'm like, it's just little moments like that I think are why I come and do what I do because it's like, y'all been talking all this size this whole time. But yet I'm able to create plays like this out here on this field amongst everybody. Not facts, but now you are graduated, right? Okay, so now, did you expect to get drafted to the NFL? No, so I went undrafted.

Yes. Yeah. But, oh, did I expect? So, yeah, yeah. I was like, after my whole process pre-draft, I went on a 30-man visit, like, just seeing the talent and seeing the stat numbers and all that. Like, I'm like, okay. Yeah, I got a chance. I for sure got a shot.

Like, after my career put up against somebody's other people, I'm like, I for sure got to. a shot like yeah let's go but yo but like i heard like they'd be selling dreams of niggas man like they be like yo listen we oh bro we love you but we go right yeah no they have there are teams that will do that that will touch hey we're going to take you're going to take you man you get picked up in the six right what's the recruiting process and too they do that so if some of those guys slip out of the draft you could get them undrafted they feel like nah this coach that showed me love. So that's where I'm a go when I, if I slip through the cracks.

Yeah. You know? Right. I mean, there's only so many guys drafted through the draft. Yeah. Undrafted guys. You have all training camp. Mm-hmm.

A lot of opportunities out there. Yeah. So they try to build their whole scale of the roster, like through that way. Man. But, like, once you didn't get drafted, first off, was that night rough? Like, was you like, damn? Like, look it. Like, when you tell, like, especially all, like, grandmamas and aunties who don't even know

nothing about the NFL. Yeah. But you say, yo, I might get drafted. Oh, man, bro, they're probably all selling their houses. Yo, we rich. We rich. So was that night tough, man? Like, not being drafted or did you already know, like, I'm going to get on somebody's roster?

Yeah, so like I was saying, before the process, before I, like, the draft even happened, I went and visited with the New York Giants and they had brought me in on a visit. And I kind of got a scale, like, oh, these coaches boom, they're trying to see what you know, playbook wise can you fit in here that type of thing boom so when the draft came i'm watching it i'm watching it's going it's going i'm like okay hold on now but i've been getting calls even before the draft i've been getting calls from teams and i'm like what i've been getting 15 i just got 15 calls before the draft oh hold on somebody going grab me somebody got to like boom but when it didn't right i promise you like right as the draft was in like

like the seventh round, boom, Giants call like, hey, we're done picking in the draft, but we would love to get you up here as an undrafted free agent, get you sign, and I'm like, yeah, that's where I'm going right away. And then, funny story, two minutes later, the coach called. Oh, yeah, like. Too late. Yeah, too late. The coach called.

Like, hey, Chuck Pagano, he's like, are you signed with anybody yet? Oh, I'm like, yeah, I already signed. He's like, I'm a dollar short. Nicolace up shit, yeah. Like, damn. But he was like, all right, I'm happy for you and good luck type of shit. Man, but let's go to, well, first of, was you invited to the NFL draft combine? No.

No. No. So I just did a pro day. I just did a pro day up at Boise. Ah, yeah, right, because like my, my, like, next question was going to be, I think Colin Kaepernick did like a short little skit, right? And, like, he compared, like, the draft combine to, like a slave, like a slave auction, I think. Right? What's like your thoughts on that, right?

Yo, hey, I ain't got no thoughts on that. Right. I ain't got no thoughts on that right now. No, why don't you say. That's all on here. Like I said, I didn't go to the combo. I didn't experience. I'm not.

What I will say in place of that as representation is we love the league. Yeah. We love the league. You know, Dion has been. Bless to continue playing and having a success. Of course. Being a champion. Yeah.

We're very happy. And bring blessings. All. All. So, okay, so, like, pass that controversial take, right? How about, like, taking the knee? Oh. Well, again, like, you know.

Right. And easier. Wait. That didn't came and gone. No, not, not. Nah, not. No, no. No, no.

No, no. No, reply. I passed that, right? So just like, just like, speak on. I guess, like, how did that affect, like, teams? Here, here, here. So you got drafted in 2016, right? Yeah, well, I drafted.

Side, right? I think Colin Cameron was 2016, right? Yeah, my rookie year. Yeah, right. So, how did that affect the teams you were on? Like, the whole, should we need, should we not need? Yeah, 16. Yeah.

It was with the Giants. Really? Yeah. So, like you say, we was going to a game. We had the game. We did our warm-ups, and we came inside. Coach was like, hey, bring it up, everybody. You're like, what's going on?

He's like, all right, guys, I respect everybody. I know what's going on. It's your decision. If you want to, you know, do that or not. And boom. And then we was just like, oh, all right, boom. And then we went and played a game. And we've been focused on the game the whole time.

Nobody even spoke on that until the game day. And it's kind of like you can't focus on it at that moment. Like, that's not the moment in time. my mind needs to be on that and begin my energy and effort to. Yeah, I've been doing something that I've been working for my whole life to go out there and put on display. And they're talking about this. You're like, oh, no, you know.

Yeah, it feels like it's a bigger issue for everyone. Yeah. Yeah. And that don't necessarily mean two things can't be true, you know? Yeah. But just at the same time, like, maybe not the best timing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

If you ain't had time to think about this and it's just like dropped in your lap and you've been preparing for this team. the whole week, that's not really something you want to have in your mind while you're trying to focus on your assignments, you know? You're like, I'll be real. At that time, it seemed like a super big deal, but I can't even, like, recall anybody who nailed or didn't know now. Yeah, because some people did it first, and then they made it a big deal, and then more people

kneeled, and then everyone started kneeling, and then they just decided, I think, like, after a year or two that they weren't going to do that anymore. You know, you know when they really let up off of it was when Jay-Z took the position with the NFL to do the, uh, the house. half time the Super Bowl. You're right. Was that two, three years, you know. Yeah, and at the conference, little conference meeting with them, he was the one that was like, well, you know, we're past kneeling at this point.

And you know how Jay is like super duper impactful to the culture. So a lot of people just took that as all right, you know what I'm saying? Like, just let it go from there. Nah, yo, listen, like how that story came about though with Jay Z telling his homie? Nah, don't. That was crazy, man. Feel me?

Nah, man. Yeah. Yeah. Next, no, listen, man, we love Jayzy here, man. Now, but, okay, so now, giants, right? So, like, you spent two years there, right? Yeah, two and a half. Now, when did you, like, I guess, realize, damn, you know, like,

did I really give me any playtime here? My time might be coming to an end. So it was actually the opposite. It was more like I started gradually getting, like, yeah, I started gradually getting to go, getting to go, then now it's kind of like, well, they was rebuilding. Was this during the party boat? Yeah.

So that was. So this is, so the party bowl happened in 16, my rookie year. Okay. Then the next year happened. I love the correlation. Yeah. I started to get something more. Yeah, yeah.

It's always during that time. On that party. So that all during that time, you know, and then obviously there was GM's firehead coaches, position coaches. So when that happens with organizations, you kind of need a rapport of, well, who brought this guy in? You know what I mean? And if you kind of not in their foreseeable future,

then you might be on the chop block being undrafted, not being a guy who was drafted there. And that's part of the game and part of the business. People might not know. And I had to witness it and go through it. So like I said, I started playing a little more, started getting a little more ops. And then they just like, okay, we're doing this.

And that same year they traded Eli Apple, who was our number 10 pick. And you feel me? So he was a number 10 pick at Corner on a team that the same year I was undrafted. So obviously our play got to get compared or, you know, level old. You know, we became real good friends too.

But it's just like, you know, they sent, oh, well, they released me, then they traded him that year. Like, they did a whole lot of stuff that you can't control. Right. So, you know what I mean? A whole bunch of stuff you can't control.

It's literally the nature of the business. And then boom. So that was like week seven of 2018. Yeah. And then I was out another seven weeks. Man, wait until so like when like you got signed initially

what was your first like I guess like take home like the big check um it was like you really want to put those numbers out of yeah no yeah no they need to notice because I was undrafted I was undrafted I was you know I got

$4,700 that was my first big like oh yeah got some couple bands like yeah look yo wait is he a brother right mm-hmm

Come here? Yeah. Come here. Come here. Just real quick, man, because, like, I feel like this is important. We got to talk to the family, right? Because, like, he probably had conversations with the aunties, the nephews, who were thinking, you already a millionaire.

Bro. Be honest, right? When you found out that your brother was in the league, was you like, yo, we're rich, like, we out of here, man. Like, it's over. Not necessarily. I already knew he had to still drag it out. It wasn't like he was, you know.

top draft picker, man, but it's like we're in a way better position than we were just seeing, though, for sure. Yo, so, like, did you ever have to explain to, like, the family? Because probably, he can't probably do it, right? Because, you know, did you ever have to explain to the family, bro, like, this nigga just got signed, but, like, he's not on on yet, bro, like, he's not rich. Yeah, no, facts, for sure. Like, some of the family, even some of the homies, you feel me, it's like, you know, at that time, you know, I'm chopping out with some of the humis and shit. You got a niggas like, oh, you know, little bro just, woo, woo, yeah, that's crazy. They're like, look at his salary.

I'm like, damn, niggas looking like. Pocket line. I didn't know you could do that. At that time, I didn't know, you could look up how much niggas really sign for and all that. Yeah. Niggas is doing it. Like, look, hey, little bro just, we all like, oh, man. That type of shit.

I was like, damn, that's crazy. Man. Man. You told me something new. Wait, right. So what was you, okay, so what was, like, your first, like, big purchase, like, that rookie year? Um. Probably my first goodies chain when I got my brand on the chain in 2016.

Yeah, I got my goodies on the chain. But I've been telling my agent and finance. I'm like, hey, whatever we do, hey, I got to get this goodies chain when we get right. I was like, and so that was my first thing I got with my goodies chain. Oh, oh, wait. So like – Like big purchase. Wait, so, like, you came into league, like, with your own breath.

Yeah. Now, I think, I think, like, Levar Ball, like, has kind of, like, coined a term. of yo, like we're the first to do it. I think Lonsa did it. So you actually was the first to do it. No, yeah, you can check the paperwork. My brand in 2014. But me and then like some other players, like we start.

Not nobody's dad, nobody. No, our mindset was on that. You feel me? Not somebody else thinking for you or none of that. It was like, hey, but what I will say what inspired it was, we used to have a whole bunch of speakers come talk to the team all the time and everybody preached to plan B, what your backup plan. and everybody's not going to go to the league.

And I'm like, well, let's figure out how we can still in-house it. Look where we're at right now in these seats. We're at a university. We're already, you know, making stride. So let's try to in house that and let's bring that together. And let's invest in ourselves. And like they say, invest in yourself for working out for football. Well, how do you do that on the business side?

Let's get that together so we can invest in ourselves. Man, yeah, like that's so dope, right? Because even listen, your, like, bro, right? like came in with the water. I'm talking about like, Canada himself, you feel like me? So like was he, so like was he always like the right hand to like all, you know, to like all the ventures and shit? Yeah, like, bro been on, he's been doing stuff before me.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's been on ventures. The athlete, the hustler. He been doing stuff before me. So it's kind of like, you know what I'm saying? I've seen that growing up like my older brothers, you know, getting to it and grinding. And it's like, yeah, I know that sports takes X amount. of time. There is no

you pop in your freshman year of such and such you said you could go to the league. No, you got three more years you got to go do. You go to the college. Ain't no leaving after their freshman year, none of that. You got at least three more years to put in. So just the time frame of things

you get an understanding of what type of work you're going to have to put in no matter what. Of course. Now like before I like ask you this, right? I want, you know, you know, and his like take on it. When you heard that bro got cut, we were just like, oh, damn, bro, like, oh, it's all moving. So when you heard that bro got cut, we just like, damn, bro, like, it's, we out of him, man,

like it's, it's pack up season or, or, or, how you guys, it's so funny, yeah. Yeah, it's all right. No, it's funny because we want to know, but it'll be like, like, when it first happened, it's like, fuck, but like, we talk so much that I already know the politics and I know what I'm looking at when I'm watching TV and shit. You know what I'm even from the high school on down to the college shit. It's like he played Division I football. Yeah, his size, blah, blah.

The nigga had 17 intercession down there broke the record. That boy D. State. On top of that, sticking some of the top receivers, Brandon Cooks and all type of niggins at that time. You know what I mean? So he come out the same year as a lot of big dogs that came out. So the top three corners in that draft that year had like combined like, buying like seven picks coming out. You feel me?

They all went first round, big money. He had 17. Yeah, that's crazy. So it's like, I mean, shit, I already know what we up against. So seeing him go to the league, undraft is small, going crazy, sticking, niggas, we've been watching our whole life and shit. Players, my mama know their names and shit. Like, oh, that's, ooh, like, bro, sticking him right now in the game.

Like, we just recording the fact, like, look at this nigga lined up on Julio. Like, we recorded a TV. That's crazy. When did you all come or not? That's so surreal, man. So it's like, we already kind of knew how to politics. So it was like the first time like, fuck, we got to go crazy. Like, we talk all the time.

So he's like, man, you know they woo-woo, but I'm for the shake back. I'm for the woo. Everything. Stay locked in, bro. You know, we feed off each other too. Yeah. You know, we're trying to deal something at home while he built in a way. So it's still a team effort.

Man, facts. Now, how do you feel, man? So first of, how did it happen? Like, how did it say, bro, like, we don't want you to want you to want you to want to a nigga leave? Yeah. So crazy and shit, though, like, we just had played the Eagles. Boom.

We played them. Then we come in after. So the game, come in, and then you go home, you got an off day on Tuesday. Everybody's off day, Tuesday. So you're thinking, you know, okay, boom. Wednesday come. Now you got to go in a building and start your week for the next week. Boom.

Same process. Go in. Get to park the car. Hop out. just another day. Okay, y'all, boom, about to keep my mind right. It's early in the morning.

I'm going to go get it. You're walking in. You walk through the door. You walk through the second door. And it's a guy called the Reaper. I was going to say your card to get in the door. Yeah, nah. You get in there.

Hey, you get in the building. And it's a guy, everybody around the league labels the Reaper. So, boom, the Reaper right there. Everybody, like, so I walked in probably like four other people, too. So you think I'm going on. What's going on? Who you trying to, what's that, bro? Hey, hey, Dante,

coach wanted to talk to you. Can you can you bring your iPad? Oh, you know it. Boom. So you said that. Hey, coach will have talk to you. Can you bring your iPad? That's turning in your playbook.

The iPad is turning in your playbook. So that's how I go. And boom, you go up there, then boom, you go to your locker, see if you need anything quick you want. I'll come get it later. I'll have them ship it. Boom, you go upstairs, go talk to the head,

coach have lack of meeting, little exit meeting like this. Like he tells you X, Y, and Z. In my case, it was, sorry, I don't really have any words for you. Like, you've been grinding, you've been doing your things. It's just kind of out of my control. Oh, all right, coach, we're sure.

So the owner, one of you going? It must have been, but the owner, and that's the thing. The owner wasn't even there when usually you meet with the coach and owner. The owner wasn't even there when I got released. Like, how'd you piss him off? Bro, hey. But like I said, it's not about that.

That's a new owner. It's a numbers game. Yeah, it's a numbers game. That's a new owner. Like, he probably don't even know my name. Like, who's this guy we got out here right now? Who brought him in? Oh, nobody's not like, there's no telling what it could be.

Nobody want to look bad either. Yeah, nobody want to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I got you 10 million, I got you two million to play. Mm-hmm. And this nigga coming in, that's my father, $4.50. Yeah. Oh, honey.

And he's going crazy. You got hurt, you ain't doing shit. Then we let him spend. All right. So who the dumb ass in the building that gave him and him all the money? Okay, so guess what? You can't play. These niggas got a day all the money, bro.

That's true. There's a lot of politics. Big facts. It's definitely politics when it comes to that. You know what I'm saying? And that's the nature of the side of the business that people don't want to speak on or they don't. But as players, you like, I can't get involved in all that. I just do what I got to do.

You know what I mean? But understanding it is knowing. And as a player, especially in the NFL, none of that money is guaranteed. Yeah. You're just now starting to see some of that with only like the big, biggest names. And, you know, you might be making money week over week. So I think that was a huge that you probably had that entrepreneurial spirit. And you already had this business lined up in your head that, you know,

I think that you've just tried to probably make the most of it regardless of what your position was on the field. And those positions, too, you might get cut. A lot of times, like, you're probably getting signed two days. later a week later too you know it's not the end of the road by any stretch yeah definitely like to me i feel like there's going to come a point in time where you just kind of know all right it's it's good i'm gonna go ahead and retire or this is this is my time where you're not going to but when you're in it and you know you still in it and you feel that and you grind in and work you know you're going to get another shot somewhere to go prove to that organization like hey yeah

i'm supposed to be out here how soon after did the rams call uh seven weeks seven weeks Yo, those six weeks must have been. I mean, I'm talking, listen up, man. I'm calling the drawer. I'm like, hey, I'm not to shut down for me real quick, you know. Seven weeks. Seven weeks. Wait.

Wait, so, like, you actually have an agent, right? Yeah. So, like, what's your agent telling you, like, in those weeks? Like, man, I'm trying, but they're not. Yeah, so really your agent, all he could technically do is reach out. It's all up to the organization. Yeah, you get a good report when you've got multiple guys, but your agent doesn't do as much when you're not signed, right? They're waiting on a team to say it has opened up, it is right for you, we want you to come and show that you could play.

So during that time, he kind of, all right, I'm still, you just stay on your grind and I'm going to do my thing behind the scenes, you know, whatever, okay. But then there's times where maybe three weeks later or something, he'd call him like, hey, I haven't really got any info. What do you think about the CFL? Like, you're like, bam, I just was playing three weeks ago in an NFL game. Like, why are you panicking like this? You know what I'm saying? So boom.

So like you say, mentally staying tapped is the tough part. Like staying tapped during that time and just, knowing that it's going to shake out, brother. It's going to shake out. Keep grinding. Keep on. Stayed that process. And then when the Rams called, seven weeks later, it was like 11, 12 o'clock in New York. Really? Yeah.

Like nighttime? Night time. It's like, mid, almost midnight. That coach must have been, been, like, watching tape or something, right? Right? And that's the thing. It's like, you don't know. Some had to transpire at that time.

But also, they did just have an injury. I kid you not. Me and my, me and my fiancee was watching the game. The Rams game was the night game. And a corner went down. He hurt his ankle. He had,

and he ended up breaking it. They carted them off, and then I got called. Like, I swear, we watched the game, and I got called from that team. Like, what? Mind you,

we've been watching games every weekend. Like, who getting hurt? Oh, what's going on around the league? Like, we're watching games every weekend. It's going. And then we watched that one. And it happened. like that.

Yo, I know it's crazy, too, and you just mentioned, like, Fiancé. And the next thing I think that I was going to ask was about the holes in the groupies, man. You feel me? Now, did you come into the league with a girlfriend or fiancé? Yeah, well, girlfriend going into the league. Yeah, we met my freshman year at Boise. Ah, so he had all the holes then. Yeah, yeah.

Back in a day. Bro. Bro, listen, but bring it down for us, man. Was there just a new level of women tapped in since your brother got into the league? Was it just a new level of goofy, Joe? Look, this certain shit I can't really speak on. Oh, man. Or he's wifeed up, too?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I got kids and shit. Oh, he got a girl. All right, man. Yo, these two guys was reading Bibles every night. Right?

I wish. We can talk about down there anything. Now, I'm in fact. All right. So the Rams call your owner Rams now. And I think Josh actually watched Hard Knocks, right? Yeah. So I wanted to know all about this with Hard Knocks.

So they're filming this like and airing it week of type shit. So there's a lot of pre-production that goes into it. Do they have like a roster of guys that they're just following around everywhere or the camera that are like on that bubble that you know that they're like pumping that storyline of like maybe he's going to make it maybe he's not really trying to like up the level because that's kind of the part you play you know got to play in that season of hard knocks and don't you haven't you watched enough episodes to know if you're getting featured that much that maybe that it might be not good yeah so initially not really like initially

it's like your personality, you, we want to feature you on here. I'm like, come on now it's Harnox. I watch Hard Knocks my whole life, bro. Okay. Yes. Yes. Feature me. Whatever you want. But also that I show you my confidence in myself. Like, I know I'm a bubble guy. Like, I know going into agreeing before we even went to camping all that, that I'm a bubble guy and I got the potential to be on here and get released. for everybody to see.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I know that. So I just, you know, I took that as another challenge. Like you say, I took that as like, okay, this's another challenge. Usually the person like you said, my spot, get released. Well, I'm about to go out here and show hard knocks. Show them these plays I'm making and, you know, the work I'm actually doing. So that even if I do get released.

Oh, y'all seen the work though. Right. Yeah, y'all seen. Mm-hmm. Everybody's seen it. So that was kind of the mindset on it that I took. like, and then towards the end, like you say, then they start, hold on, oh, hold on, Coach, you act a little different.

What's up, bro? I don't know much anymore. So did you get any, like, more fame through Hard Knocks? Did you get any more in, like, notoriety? And, like, you know, being a bubble player, it's really hard to get your name at known out there to any of the fan base, really. So, yeah. Do you find, like, Hard Knocks was that for you?

Yeah, I definitely think I definitely, like, stay. with especially the Rams family, like the Rams family, like everybody on the Rams now had knew me hitting my Instagram up, Twitter, like now they know, oh, we do know Dante Dion, like he is on the team actually, even though it says he's been released three times from this same team, like he's actually on here. And look, wait, the whole team mess with him.

Wait a minute. Why does Aaron Donald have a relationship with, wait, why did these dudes, oh, snaps, hold on. He's a part of what's going on up there. And that I feel like was like one of the things I had to try to get out as a player. Like, yeah, of course I'm going to be a little more extra now, a little more rowdy, a little more, but I'm already like that. So what they see, they kind of like, ah, he's talking, he'd be loud, like, I'll be on that, but it's definitely going to get amplified because I want you to know that. I take this approach and I still go out there and flip that switch to go out there with them grown men and go get it done on Sundays for everybody.

to see. Yeah, like, I've never watched an episode of, of my hard knocks ever, right? But, but, like, apparently, though, like, whenever it's announced, legit, every, like, sports channel, ESPN, Skip Bailey. They are talking about this, like, like, it's like the Broadway about it happened or something, you know? Yeah, it's a big deal. Because those teams are usually rebuilding, you know, they take a lot of time figuring out which organizations they're going to jump into. And it's, like, the first thing announced after the Super Bowl. And people, are so hungry for football that it's like the first thing that fans can gravitate to and start bitching about and debating and that's really what they're going to do.

Yeah, facts. Yeah, like you see me. Yeah. Our cousin J-D up on that right now. Yeah. Jamal Williams. Oh, shit. Mm-hmm.

He with the lion. Yo, let's be cool with that, bro. That was a good season, too. Yeah. You got emotional, you know, like in real life? Yeah. Look, so that's his, I played with him in high school. He went to summit with us, too.

Oh, okay. I've known Jamawson, come on now. We've been playing together. actual football together on the same team since we've been like 9, 10, running track together, doing like everything. So like that's his football side. And that's what's going to bring it out of them is football. So just seeing that now, it's like, yeah, the world gets to see it now.

That's him in high school right there. Amen. We're about to kill these. We want to go crazy. Let's go. Like, step up. But he's like, he's a quiet anime video games. That's him all day long.

That's him. Is it from the IE? Mm-hmm. From the IE. Bro, how did the anime-loving dude come from the IE? That's crazy, right? Yeah. He ain't no little nigga, nigga.

And he's not small. He's like, he's in. He's a beast, though, bro. He's a monster, man. And we almost went to Boise State together, but Boisey, when there's recruiting us, Boise wanted him to play linebacker. So they kind of wanted us like, okay, you play corner, you play linebacker, y'all come. But he's like, but we also play offense.

He's like, no, I want to play runnyback. And that's where he got his op at BYU to go play running back. Man, but, bro, we honest though, right, when you see him, like, shutting up, like, Ashley, the tears coming up, was you like, nah, come on, bro, you can't. Nah, come on, man. That's, bro, he's emotional. I know they laugh. I know he felt that, man.

I know he said, man. No, but, homie's going to see this, man. Yeah. You got to know. You got to know. Yeah. You got to know. Everybody human beings at the end of day, he's doing something passionate.

So it's like, if y'all niggas playing, then, you know, somebody going to speak up. You're playing with something that's feeding our family feet. You know what I mean? If you plan a little too much and holding your weight, somebody's going to trip. It just happened to be him. Yeah. You're a little emotional with it.

It's so much that's involved in that goes into football, like you say that people don't know and see that is riding on week to week. You know what I mean? Not just, oh, this player that, no, everybody in the building. You could be gone at any moment. Yeah, at any moment. You know, everybody out there playing hurt, bro. Literally.

Everybody hurt. So you could really be injured to where you can't even provide for these next eight weeks. Man, you know, so, yeah, so that emotion and that passion. But that's him, like, even when we were young, he used to cry at practice maybe and then be the best one on the next, winning a 100 meter dash, winning a 200 meter dash. Like, you're like, bro, he just smoked everybody. But his training process, he was like, ah, it's crazy. No, but like, I feel like he, I feel like he.

Has to be nice, right? Like, for example, if y'all see one of, one of, like, the trash-ass homies cry, you know, and you know, chill, because he's a beast and he's nice, and he's six for three and two-fourty and he really fucks some shit up, he can get away with that crying shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's more where it's brought from, you know where it's coming from, not like on no, man, tough enough, bro, why are you crying?

Because you didn't got, you lost, like, it ain't that. You know it ain't that. And you know the mindset of it. So it's like, no, that's all. I'm sure that shit on probably every scene, too. That's just us seeing that, you know, because they showed that. But I'm pretty sure it's a hell of niggas on every team. They got niggas like that.

Not facts, man. Oh, wait. Was, like, was Todd McVeigh there when you came or was it the other guy? Sean. Yeah. Yeah, he was there when I got there. He got there. What I said?

Were you trying to think about Todd Gurley? No, I said Sean McVeigh. No, you said Todd McVe. Oh, really? Yeah. Yo, bro, it's the African man, man. I find Jive. But, wait, but, okay, but Todd Gurley was there, right?

Yeah, Todd was there, too. And be real, bro. Like, when you seen Todd Gurley, again, before getting to the team, I feel like his, like, second year where, you know, this nigga is, yo, he's a, he's special. But when you got there, man, I think the college issue was going on, and what you're like, damn, but this ain't the nigger that, you know, that I was watching. So when I was with the Giants, we played him the year before he got injured.

And like you say, we like, we cannot stop this dude. Like, what's up? We cannot stop you. Boom. And then when I got there, he was still the same. I got there when he got hurt. You feel me? I was there in 2018, like, towards the end of the season.

That was just when they had beat the Chiefs. And that 50, you know, 54, 53 game type, whatever that was. So I had got there around that time. And that's when they were still going crazy. And then he just had got hurt, like, during the playoffs around. Yeah, man. Now, I think in 2021, I think Lamar Jackson got hurt for y'all game, right?

Yeah, he didn't play against us. Yeah. Now, were you, like, in bed that night? Like, because, again, I think, like, like, probably like the day before, it was still questionable. Yeah, it was questionable. Was you like, y'all? I hope this nigga don't play, bro. I hope this dude don't play, man.

Hey, man. So I didn't see Lamar, you know, do a tear, bro. He's very special. He's nice. So, like you say, when it came out that he wasn't playing. I'm like, oh, yes, sir, let's go. Let's go. Now our game plan and mindset, too, on, like, they pass in concepts.

Do we think they're going to take as many deep shots as, are they going to stick to their offense or do they got to cater to this quarterback now? And now that gives us the upper hand. Like, are we going to go attack them? Let's go attack them. And we're about to be aggressive this game and just keep putting pressure and attacking. So it did change your mind. Like, yes, Lamar out.

Yeah. Oh, me in that game. Yo, here, right. So like, okay, so who is one offensive player, bro, that put you on your ass? Like, I'm talking about like, like, you, yo, bro, it's crazy, right? Because right now, bro, even the quarterbacks are smacking shit. I see Josh Allen. Well, Josh Allen is different.

That's it crazy. You know, you went to Wyoming. I went to Boise, so I've seen him in his college days, you know what I mean? No. Mm-hmm. It's on big white boys from the South, bro. They just build different. Yeah.

Well, I probably had, like, one, yeah, one moment. It was a screen. They ran a screen, right? A wide receiver screen. And the inside out flow was coming from inside out. And it was kiddle. Oh, kiddle. It called me slipping.

So, yeah, it was the kiddle. That's the only, bro, that's the only time I've truly just been like, blow. Oh, what? Hold on. Somebody did. That got me because, like, I'm looking down. I was breaking on the screen.

And then he was coming inside out. And it kind of you get caught in that zone. I'm like, damn, I got a dude. How tall is kiddo? Kiddle pretty big. Six, six, six, seven? Yeah, he pretty big. He's pretty big.

Bro, and he's strong, man. God damn, he's blindside. Yeah. At that game, you know, we were sitting right next to George Kittle agent. Oh, real? We were talking to the, between all games. So he's like, that's your brother. I just got her.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, fuck you. It's cool. Yo, bro. Yeah. I go to the homies, homie trial. Like, yo, where that truck park. that, man.

You know, that should be that atmosphere, be live, but you know, it'd be, you know, you got to make sure you're in the right section because it could be, you know, motherfuckers, it's a game, you know, fans is really emotional. So, you know, you'd be that motherfucker's, oh, weak-ass, woo-woo, or something. You know, I always be, like, when I'm at the game, I keep in mind, so we might be next to somebody's family. So if I see a player drop the ball, I'm like, oh, weak-ass, niggit, because it's like, you feel me?

That could be his people's right there. He's feeding these people, bro. It ain't nothing. Like, I got a brother in league. I want to see niggas ball out. I like to play more than the organization. Did you learn that etiquette though? Because I think it was like T.O.

and who said, yo, like, I had to tell my mom to chill out, bro. Because she was in, right? So, like, did you, like, learn that etiquette or was it the first game we out here while and out, you feel me? Like, for me, I learned that shit on the spot. Like, because, like, my first game would be, of course, tickets from my bro. So it's like, then we hear with some of the homies, right? But we hear off little bro.

So you got the Rams versus Woo-ty Boo. But the homie is a fan. this team. So he's like, emotional and shit. Like, you basically want this nigga to smash little bro for a little bro got us here. Yeah. He, you know, he's getting a cat, cow, he feeding a, you want, you a fan so much, you want to see a nigga you don't know that. Don't even know you or nothing. Smash your brother. You feel me? So I be like, I learned that shit on a spot. I was like, damn, you know what? I won't come with y'all niggas no more. Of course. I'm fucking up my energy, too. You feel?

Mm-hmm. No, that's facts, man. Now, on the Rams, like, who's a, you know, outside of the Aredonald's, the Cups, the, like, Dilla Ramsey, who's a player that, like, we won't believe how unbelievable they are just in practice? Oh. Like a super athlete. Oh.

Right. Well, outside, well, outside of me, right, outside of myself, I'll say, I'll say, that's tough. That's tough because there's so many guys that, like you say, that aren't getting shown on Sundays that are out there snapping, but that I've been doing it for years. I'll tell you, I've been with that organization for years, so I've seen a lot of guys come in and out that really didn't shine on Sundays. Yeah. You know, but I will say there are dudes that are really going crazy in practice, really snapping, and we damn their damn they're just got to wait until they get they shine to know. But yeah.

Nah, like, I feel like us as the casual fans, like, I don't see like who like the real niggas are until Madden comes out, right? Like, for example, it was some dude. And when the Cowboys, man, like six-fold, like 96-speed in Madden, bro, a cornerback, like a 61-1, like overall. I'm like, what, yo, who is this? Yo, holly-nigger, six-fold, 96 speed ain't getting no burden in the league. Yeah, but that's what people got to understand, bro.

It's the best of the best. It's the best of the best. It's not just the deal. And it's not, yeah, it's not just one aspect. It's not one aspect that you got to be top tiering. It's multiple aspects that you're getting judged and critiqued off of that all got to build into you as one person. Yo, speaking of Maddeno, man, how disrespected are you by your, like that? Oh, my goodness, bro.

They disrespect me all the time. And on top of that, they don't even be adjusting it during the season for me because you're not a big time player. So they're not going in and changing your manner ratings. Man, I'm like, bro, you didn't just see that TFL I had. You ain't just see this pick out. Come on, bro, bro. No, bro. Like, I knew that you were like special, right?

Because like, there was an almost like a pick, right? So like, again, the boy is going out of bounds. Dude caught the ball and out of bounds. Yeah. Almost got your foot in, right? I'm like, yo, how do you even make that play? Like, and yo, and like, that's how I knew you had to play receiver at some point, bro? because like a catch like that is insane, man.

Yeah. But we know you nasty right now. Name me one underrated player in the entire league. Underrated player in the whole league, offense or defense? Yes, off of the defense. Mad underrated. Mad underrated. This is tough.

This is tough because I'm a defensive perspective, right? You know what I'm saying? But also I notice, you know, White House that if you turn on the tape, he's cooking every day. Like he's cooking people. Like you got to watch out for this dude. I would say who was mad underrated coming into this like a Gabe Davis for the Buffalo bills.

He seemed underrated to me because I've been seeing the tape on him. He's been stretching the field. He's big body. He's been making catches. He's been doing this thing. And now people are now starting to respect him. But he was one of those type of, yeah, one of them underrated people that be snapping for real for the Buffalo bills.

Now flip that. Now, again, you could say, you know, let my brother answer this. Who's the most overrated motherfucker that you heard? Like, again, like, yo, yo. Flaco. You seen nine all pros, pro bulls. I'm talking about 50 commercials.

And like, you play, bro. And you're like, damn. Or, or like, nomad, like, for example, right, I think it was like nomaday Osamar, right? where he got traded bro was like an all pro and kept on his squad

and shit like first practice a titan brother and he's like yo who is this right so like who's the one overrated motherfucker

or a toast to your brother you feel me man yeah what you got for yeah overrated overrated man the most

overrated player man damn overrated most overrated most overrated player in my opinion yeah

fuck I'm gonna have to go with a quarterback yeah you have to I'm going to have to go with a quarterback. They didn't hype. I don't know, man.

It's been too many quarterbacks that's really been ass. I'll say like somebody that's in the league playing right now. I'll just go Baker Mayfield. Yo, that was the first name. That came to your head. You know, gansel, niggas like that. Nah, listen. And he's a single quarterback.

No, Johnny my nigga. I'm supposed to say, I, listen, man. I just felt like a dog. But you said in the league, though. You talked about in the league, though. All right, in the league, Baker Mayfield. Bro, I thought, listen, bro, I thought the same thing, right? Again, this is, like, I'm kind of, we can just ex-X Dionne.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Diardo Codonis, you know what I'm not in the league, my show, don't know. They're maddy. No, but, like, I think it's Bakesford, too. And then, like, Doc should also give his, like, overrated, too, right? But I think it's Baker because, yo, bro came into the league, like, talking, talking trash, right? And, like, we just assume, sorry, like, when I hear, like, for example, they would say, oh, my God, yo, he got an edge. Oh, my God.

He is, you know. Bro, if we do that shit as, yo, this niggas cocker's motherfucker, cockiness. Right? So, out that motherfucker. Yeah, bro. And, bro. And the goal number one overall, bro? Nah, man, I see it, man.

But Josh, who's your, you know, top overall? Well, I mean, with Baker, too, he's undersized. He's not a big quarterback. Yeah. He plays with an edge. I don't know if he's the most. Edge is cockiness. You can't.

You can't. was over. You can't throw the ball of OBJ that many times and he don't catch that one. It's something wrong. He's going right to the rounds and start going crazy.

I don't know. Where's he this year, though? Who? OBJ. Only because of injury, he would have been a Super Bowl in the EP. If he did.

Where's Baker Mayfield? Where's Baker Mayfield? Yo, but. Baker Mayfield's playing on the roster right now. He's got a starting position. Hey, no, that's true. But I, listen,

I ain't going to lie though, man. Like that OBJ, though. You feel me? You get no, like, bro. I might take Baker. You take Baker over over over. Oh, no, I'm taking over. We want to go.

Exactly. I'm talking about overrated. How? OBJ overrated to you? Are you saying he's overrated? I'm going to lie to, bro. I think he took most of the last season off, which is why he came to the Rams and playing for a contract.

Obviously, things changed a little bit. I think he's overrated. Did you see Baker and OBJ game film compilation? How many times Baker Mayfield missed a wide open OBJ? That's your like 13 minutes long. But who made that? OBJ's dad. It's still 13 minutes.

It's on there when you look with your eyes, though. It don't matter who made it. All right. He put it out there. We see the video of all the completions, though, too, and see what the weighted difference is of overthrows versus completions. Yeah. But that film of 13 minutes of missing a nigger like OBJ is still.

It's crazy. It's a lot of teams in a league that don't have a receiver as near as good as him, and they're getting receptions and catches and yards. I'm not saying he got to do everything, but you should be able to hit a player like that, gang, if we're playing. No, right, so. Especially someone like him who can go up and get the ball 10 feet over his head. I see.

Catch radius crazy. I see, like, Josh's point, too, because, again, like, if we're judging OBJ as, yo, he's a great receiver, of course. Like, he's amazing, right? But the people will say, yo, he's the most talented receiver of all time. Yeah, he is this all-time juggernaut. I feel like before the injuries, he was for sure. Like, I'm talking about for show, like, like, party boat is really kind of when it did.

Yeah. Bro, Josh Gordon, OBJ to me were like, like the best young players that I've ever seen. Yeah, Josh Gordon was snapper. Josh Gordon was from battles. Yeah. Bro. But O'Dell is a generational talent. Like, you can't second-guess it.

And like you say, like you say, I get to see him in practice. I've seen them in practice. Yeah. You give me, you know, all them catches in routes, he didn't ran in practice that y'all never got to see, you like, damn, if only we could translate that on some days, like, yeah, that, you know, the days maybe he don't have a catcher, and people like, what's wrong? But it's like, well, at practice, he was cooking. Cooper, a cup got got by 300 targets.

Right? Right. No, right. But taking back to that 2020, no, yeah, 2021 team, right? First off, at what point did you realize, yo, we could probably win it all? Like, this shit is special over here. I'll say it hit us when we got into that playoff game with the Cardinals. And we got to stomping on the Cardinals.

We like, oh, yeah, okay, okay, it's on it cracking. Like, because the week before when we figured out when we lost the Niners, we won the division, Niners got to go to Green Bay. We get in Arizona at home. say less. This is our run. That moment, that moment when we, after that game, that Niners game, it's like, all right, y'all, let's go.

It's lined up. Let's go. We got to go get it. And that's how it kind of came africian. It was like, it's going to be tough, but we want this route. We wanted this route. We asked for this route. This route right here, we wanted it.

So we got to step up. Now, like, because you guys actually made the, like, the Super Bowl like the year before, right? 2018. Yes. That's right. Now. If you lost against snow. I know. Now, now, now, now, Geragoff.

B-Roper, when did you realize, yo, this nigga is Turkey? This is a trash. Is that fair? Because you're comparing to Matthew Sassar. Right, you're comparing them like, like, uh, Jared Goss's journey in, like, development, like people talk about quarterback's development and how they came into the league and what was around them, what coaches they had. then that's big for quarterbacks.

So if he didn't develop how he needed to, technically it's on him, but like you say, he's the number one pick. It's everything around going into him being at him. He has Sean McVeigh, like what he needs? Yeah, but I'm not.

Come on, but when you got Sean McVeigh, though, but when you got Sean McVeigh, then you know he's so smart that you've got to execute at a certain level. There might not be no little razzle-dazzle from on your side, but like maybe a dude who Matthew Stafford understanding the game so much in defenses,

okay, I'll see what you saying, McVeigh. Oh, I got a little edge too right here and this versus it just being like, okay, McVeigh, you said this, I got to go do this. Exactly. You know what I mean? Like I got to go do this what you said. Yeah. Like Jared's going exactly off the book, exactly what McVey's going to said, whereas Stafford's played in the league for, you know.

Yeah, it's those changes because we do walkthroughs and all that before the game of looks we're going to see. see defenses you're going to get. And I was on the scout team a lot of those times. So I'm with the offensive guys a lot of the time. So I know McVey's playbook in and out. Like you've been me like for real, for real. Like I didn't talk with McVey on some of the route concepts they didn't

had. And he was like, hey, do you think we should push it up a little bit more here? Or what made you stay and sit on that route if I did this or that? And you're like, well, when this happened, usually y'all do this or, you know what I mean, giving them feedback. And you can ask me, you say that, he's so goaded. Yeah. Yo, bro, I love him, man.

Yo, bro, he's so goaded, man. Yeah. He's so golden. Now, why do you love him so much? Yo, like, he's golded. But listen, I personally think, bro, when it's all set of done, like, he's probably going to, like, be, like, probably, like, with, like, the Andy Reed for, like, the greatest,

like, offensive mind that I've, like, personally seen, right? Because Andy Reid's a beast as well, you feel me? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Now, okay, so, like, what did you find out about that trade, though? Like, the, you know, like, they probably give, like, two first, round picks and all, you know, like all type of shit for, like, Matthew Stafford.

Really, it was like when we found out, we just, it came across. And when I seen it, oh, they gave up X, Y, Z. We got Matthew Stafford. Well, what's up? We got Staff. We know he could push the ball, yeah. I mean, not because, you know, no other situation, but because of Matthew Stafford. Like, what?

You know how long I've been watching Matthew Stafford play football in Detroit? Like. Go for your boy, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah. We're cool, but that's what I'm saying. It's about the game at the end of the day when it comes to that. Like, you go talk to Jericho? He ain't in there politicking for double D to stay on the team.

Like, I've been released three times since you've been here. Like, he ain't saying, hey, this dude is giving me trouble at practice. This dude is giving me issues. We need to keep him on there. That's not going on. So it's not like, you know, you're not doing that. But with the addition of Matthew Stafford, you're like, what? Matthew Stafford?

With McVey's offense, understanding what he does in that offense, the intricacies he brings to it, the level of knowledge he talks, the 400-level ball he talks about. With Matthew Stafford being a vet, you know they're going to elevate that often. They're going to take this to another level. So going into it, we like, let's go. We got to do everything on our end. You know, me playing defense. I'm like, I'm trying to give up nothing.

I'm trying to do on everything. Keep getting the ball back to them. I'm trying to get as many picks as I can. Many third down breakups And third down stops as I can to get them back on the field And I was just approaching mindset Man, now Once y'all made it

And once you won I've seen you like Run on the field Now you had a clean-ass jersey on my nigga You feel me? Clean that jersey on my movie No turf right But you was hurt right or no

Nah nah I was the fourth corner So damn there wasn't fucking with you Yeah so you know in the NFL That's how I go You got Two starters on the island and then you go nickel package, another corner comes in.

So week six, our third corner, or our second corner, however you want to say, Darrys Williams, he got hurt. You feel me? Now your next corner gets to bump up, and that's when I got activated against the Giants. Week six, boom, start playing, and towards the end of the season, they got healthy. Yeah, he came back, boom. So it's just like, you next up, if anything go down, be ready. You got to go in there.

Like, that's just how in the playoffs of the Arizona game. Yeah. One of our corners heard his ribs in the first half. So he was bawling too. David Long, he was bawling. And then he heard his ribs. And then I had to play the rest of the second half. So it's like you never know.

And how do you prepare yourself for that? You know what I mean? Yeah. To you about to be out there after mindset wise, you wasn't going to be playing this whole week. Yeah. Preparation, you're like, I'm staying on it. All right.

If it come, it come. If it don't, it's how the Super Bowl was. If it came, I would have been ready for it. And if it didn't, we got the dub. So let's go. That's it. That's all about it. Here, right?

But like after winning, right? How was that feeling? Again, I know it's probably like, yo, it's probably like impossible to even describe that feeling, man. But you there, all the homings is there, y'all, L.A. natives, yo. How was that feeling? Walking, walking on that field with your phone out, you know.

Man, it was crazy. It was real crazy because you got to think autumn days, autumn work, all that work you put in, this feels like a tangible moment for you. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm grabbing this moment. Even though I'm grabbing this and I'm doing everything I can in this moment to enjoy it. And that's what I did basically just go around.

I took pictures with fans after. They in the stadium they throwing me. They phones down. I'm taking pictures with them walking around. I'm hugging my mom's. My fiancee, we out on there. Brother in them, they're there. It's just so crazy.

And then like the people, so there's booths at so far, like little clubs where you're standing like the bars went over there and took a shot we won took a shot with them like yeah we didn't want so it's just like now and I'm interacting with fans and the organization they guys ring right there too by the way oh yeah yeah that ain't yeah come on man yeah listen that shit heavy yeah yeah that little day man yeah yeah yo is it hard to be like for example right because when like when like I see you miced up right Now, yo, he's, bro, he's out here talking, being a leader. How do you lead as like the third or fourth corner, my nigga?

Because, like, I send him my telling niggas, yo, hey, yo, go up. Hey, yo. I say, yo, hold up now, bro. Like, how are you that vocal as like the third or fourth corner? So, shit, that started when I was young. Pop Warner, then got to high school. I've been a number one dude. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I've been number one, so to say, on our teams before. Like, it's not new. me. I'm used to that part of it and knowing what it takes to win. I won before. So knowing that atmosphere, knowing when you are that leader, what it got to look like. And I'm not afraid to put myself

out there for that role. Like, bro, yes, I have been there. And I'm not afraid to say I've been there and I know and made it with this person or learned from this person or that person. And these great minds of the game of football I've come

across with, like, I've taken an that knowledge and just taking all that knowledge of the game and I apply it and I apply it. And that's what I do. I just go out there and I apply myself. This is me. This is how it is. And no matter what, nobody says, oh, you're the fifth corner. You're the sixth corner. I'm the corner that's on this active roster, right?

Okay. Bet. Well, this, hey, I'm helping you now. You, you out there. Hey, I see something you don't see. People don't know. Like, sometimes Jay Leno let me know. Hey, brother, be my eyes and ears.

if you got anything that you see that out of, just holl at me. Whether he take it or not or use it or not, that's not the point. It's the fact that he's trusting and allowing you to say, bro, if you see something I don't, bro, let me know. That alone is respect, you know, and in our game it is about respect, and you practice so much with these guys

and you do so much that respect go a long way. And just a little off topic, which I just had just touched on, like that Super Bowl year, like, they was going crazy. I know he probably remembers he could speak to this, but I was literally hitting him up, like, beginning of the city. I'd not tell you, before, like, midway through the season, I said, bro, you're all going to win the Super Bowl this year.

Everything was lined up. And once Odell came, I felt like that was like the lap because him and Odell chemistry already was crazy in New York. So I already figured, like, just them, him coming to a team. We was already stacking everything, great players already. Like, they did their thing, man. Man, now, like, as we wrap up, right, first off, Tell me more about the good eats.

Like, what is? Yeah. Well, first of, who named this shit? Him or you? Your boy. A you, okay. And it started originated from the field. Like eating, making place, that's a good eat.

You know, because everybody used to say eating good. And that's why when I tell you this is 2014, you know, came up and I actually put out. And little, do you know, I got a Z on there because I was thinking, like, when you trademark something, when you do it, somebody probably already got an S, like, because it says eats. It's like, you know, let's go Z. That's going to be us. Everybody going to know us because we got the good eats with the Z. Like, that's us.

And it's eating good and good eats. You're making plays. You're doing your thing. Yo, that's crazy. You listen, only real street niggas or like, I'm that business minded, bro. Like, you feel me? All the real shit. If I'm only real street niggas that business minded, right, you feel me?

Yeah. So we just own that, which is really just on that. But it's just a full lifestyle brand of everything I'm a part of, everything I do. I want to figure out how I can business-minded, entrepreneur, put it into life and what we're doing, our actual life. So it's a lifestyle brand of multiple things, but get into it. What's next, though? So after the water, what else niggas got? Like the gummy snacks, the T.H.C.

The what? No, so. The runts. Nah, so what's crazy is, like, people always ask like, oh, goodies, what you make? What food do you make? And it's not even that. But it's good that it take you there because some people would say good eats, why they eat and stuff. And I feel like that's us when you put a Z on the end of the good eats, good eats.

That's us. Like, you know that's us. But I'm partnering with Bakers out in the IE. So you don't know Bakers is a fast food plus restaurant, you know, that's only in the IE right now. And we're going to partner up and do a lot of different things in the community, whether it comes to food, sports, merch. like we're going to full house it and we're going to be taking over to IE and this week we actually started

with the Don Lugo Chino high school football game we're going to be going to that game this week Friday and we're picking an MVP we're giving them free bakers for a year and we decking them out with a good eat Baker swag bag you feel me for that up.

She big a year? Yeah for a year. My fat ass trying to figure out how can you get involved? How can I play? How can I play? Goody's good news. Goodies,

goodies is real active, real community, you know, as well as having a flag football league, you know, for the youth and a sports agency and clothing manufacturer warehouse. You see the hat he has on it.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so. I need some merch. Yeah. So, you know, and we make all the merch. We got the machines.

We created. We got brothers. And they actually, we actually make the merch. Like, we do it. Got the machine. Oh, really? So you guys actually have a production?

Yeah. Yeah. Actual warehouse, Mnman Manufacture Group. You own your shit. Yeah, we actually own the actual machines and all that to produce it all. And that's what I say, lifestyle, because when it come to sports, I want to throw football camps for the youth. I don't want them paying.

I don't want them having. So make it free. And then I'm going to make all the shirts and all the merch and give it out at the events. I'm going to have all the water. It's going to be all under my brand under in-house. You know what I mean? Goodies over the world. Like, yo, but like, I heard them youth camps is brutal though.

Because even like Camp Newton, like, I think like went viral the other day. No, like, no. It was a couple years ago. Yeah. Yeah. No. But like the kids from, from a youth camp. Oh, shit.

I said, yo, that's just how it's, man. It's the outside world that looks at that from a different point of view, you know? This kid is playing sports. And if he's at this camp, he's obviously doing enough wherever he's at to be at this camp. he looks up to Cam Newton regards to how they try to play the thing Cam Newton is acknowledging this kid too as well by being in this camp

He was being disrespectful No he's pressing them because of how he was trying to talk to him Right? You come in from my spot type of thing How? Bro listen and he asked a nigga You're not signed for a reason I said I would I say yeah this is crazy Bro if I'm starting to camp

If I'm you know like doing a camp And like you in my camp talk to all like that Yeah Floppa you start a camp Everyone's gonna talk shit You got it's a little man I'm a little real Man, wait, bud.

I've seen Mel Diggin. Yeah, so this was real quick. Like I had a nice little setup playing for y'all, but, you know, in the new space, the new rules and everything didn't allow us for one other person. Yeah. I had Thug Chef was coming to cater for y'all's staff. Oh, really? Yeah, so he was the one that we had to leave out, right?

So. You should have told us, man. Free food have been great. Yeah. So this right here is The Hood with no engine underneath. This book was authored by Cedle, but who was just sitting there. Oh, my brother. Yeah, like I told you, he's involved.

This was a number one selling book. It's still being sold at Barnes & Noble. It's still being sold at Walmart, Amazon, et cetera. So I brought both of y'all would. Josh, I didn't know you were sitting down until two, two last minute, but I still grabbed something. Is his book? For Flacco, we run a jersey. Yo, I'm wearing that.

That ain't going to fit you. Man. I got to be a lot of Jersey. I got to work. So, you know. Yeah. That's what Jersey. We're going to have.

We got to hit it. And then, come on now. NFL issue standard football. We're going to have him sign for you as well, Josh. Yeah. Super Josh. He got to go with that football. Nah, no, no, no.

Damn. I don't play football. We go sign that joy for you. Oh, yo, this is crazy, man. You know, man. It's a 2X. I knew you was kind of putting on weight. So I was like, it should work.

Bro, trust me, listen, like, my next big interview, I'm wearing this tweet. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Right? No, I feel like I got like somebody coming up at the end of the month. You feel me? Yo, bro, listen, come talk about your book, man. Yeah.

You feel what I'm? For sure. I'm trying to figure out the hood with no engine underneath. Yeah. Power by over the world, man. Yo, first off, man, how do a brother from I.E. from the streets, you feel me, real hustler grinding. How do you get the idea of, yo, I'm trying to be an author?

Oh, shit. I had been like, you know, in my notes really, politicking going in on his book for a while. Yeah. But the young homie chip from the team, he actually published a book first. You feel me, from our like our city and shit for Orioto. Yeah. And ain't a lot of people that do that.

So he published his book first and had his physical copy and all that. And you feel me? He came up to me with his book like, hey, you know, big bro. Like, I want you to have one of my books. Like, I'm like, damn, like you did a book. I'm like, you know I wrote a book like two years ago that I just been sitting in my notes? Like, can you help me bring it to life? You feel me?

So young bro helped me bring my shit to life. Okay. And that's how I really got into actually bringing it to life. But it was like I just was going through the motions of, you know, being an entrepreneur, trying to make some shape, all that type of shit. So I have been always writing like an empowerment entrepreneur book for, you know, niggas in our situation or anybody else coming up. they could use that as a tool.

It's just a lot of shit that helped me for C and shit like that that I put in the book. Ah, game. Yeah. It went crazy in the city and shit. Everybody thought it was going to be some street shit. You feel? And then the title of it, as you can see the cover, but the hood with no engine underneath. It's like, you know, another meaning for like, you know, the head with no brain.

You feel me? But that's actually a Nipsey Hustle lyric. That's where I got it from. But this was way before he passed away. Yeah. Like, because I look. up to a lot of the shit he did and shit too. Man, the book is not for the blammer, for the conscience.

Yo, listen, bro. I feel like your family got to be special, bro. Right? Right, right. Listen, listen, like, because I have a pro athlete, I'll be real, right? Like, Dion is impressive. But to me, like, the most impressive nigger is the one without the athletic ability. And, like, you just a genius, my nigga.

Like, you got the water going on, got the hustle in the background going on, bro. Yeah. Where'd you get that, like, just that work ethic, right? Because I'd be real, bro, like, I'm, listen, bro, like, I'm content easily, feel me, bro, like, right? But, like, where did you get that, like, work ethic from, bro? And that drop. Man, that's kind of like, you know, that's all growing up, single mom,

raised by moms, grand, our aunties and shit. We got, like, uncles and shit, but we never grew up with no father figure. So it's like, once you, you know, we all, one in the house, but, you know, when you leave outside, you got your own homies, you got your own brain, your own mind you free will to the world so it's like when i start like you know trying to get my own i wasn't always wasn't getting girls wasn't fly i ain't the flyest nigger i wasn't the athlete so you know i just always just was a sponge you feel me so when i start going through my life experiences gang banging getting shot juvenile hall all this bullshit you know i just wanted to just

lock down on something that was like true to me and shit so i start picking up this work ethic from like being around like hit boy and like the homies audio pushing shit like that in music i used to see used to be in hit boy studio all the time the nigga never left the studio every single day like holidays it it don't matter what it is that niggil is in the studio so i used to see his work ethic like damn like this thing don't take more day off yeah so i start building out my mama garage until kind of like our headquarters and shit so we was in the garage since like 2012 before we then got to the warehouse and all the luxury shit, the fly shit that we're going on. The garage with the screen.

We're going crazy. Like trying to grind it out type of shit. Yo, well, you listen, like, I Loki feel like we must do a part two with this nigga, bro. This nigga got the game shot. Big fact. But, bro, listen, man, before we wrap up, man, any last question statements, let them folks know where can they find y'all?

What's next? You know. Yeah, they could follow us on the ground. You know, my personal page is C2nd C-E-E-T-L-E, the number 2ndy. We got O-T-W-U-U-U-U-Score collection is our brand for over the world, which where we do our thing. Then we got our good eats page. Yeah. That's our brand is really O-T-W good eats.

We got SBB we fuck with back home. The Hummys T&T, a bunch of like, you know, shit in the city and shit that we fuck with. A couple rappers. You know, I got a shout-out my nigga N-O. Yeah. out to my nigger bands one time. Yeah, all the hoodies, clack. Shout to everybody, man.

Yeah, shout out to the boy, Zach in the city. Everybody in the toe, man. Everybody in the toe, man. And you know what it is. It's all love on this side, man. Appreciate y'all having me. You know, it's been a good end. We've been enjoying it.

My little luck. You feel, shout out, love. You feel, you got to really dive in and open up about some stuff that I usually don't talk about. Like, you know. What's right? That's love, you know what? All right.

And Mel got to last words or what? I feel good All right then All right then All right man No jumper Coolest podcast in the world Man

We out of here man