No Jumper - Donz Stacks on 6ix9ine Co-Signing Then Abandoning Him, "This The Only Rat We Jackin" & More

Episode Date: December 26, 2023

Donz Stacks to talk about his relationship with 6ix9ine, the early days of their real friendship, how it turned sour and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And I got a shout out my guy, Skinny for the Nine, from helping me arrange this. Because this is a dude that I always been pretty fascinated with. Ever since you came out, you coined one of the illest catchphrases of 2001. I think it was 2021.

A man who, I think, definitely has a very fascinating story that we got to delve into today. We got Don Stacks on the bill. on the show. How are you feeling, man? I'm chilling, brody. I'm chilling. I'm chilling, brody.

You're a soft-spoken guy, so we've got to get that right up in there. How are you living? Good. I'm just chilling, bro. Maintaining, bro. Every day, just taking a step. That's it.

Okay. Because you've been doing your thing for a while, right? When I was on YouTube, I was finding examples of you. You got videos that are many years old at this point and stuff. Like, you've been doing the music thing for a while? Yeah, bro. And where are you from?

Bushwick Projects, you are. Okay. And when and how did you meet Daniel Hernandez? Was it back in the day? Or was it more recent? I lose $6 since probably like 2013, bro. Yeah. He was a friend before anything.

It's a bro, you heard. You just knew him from living in the same area? Not even. Like, I was both, like, I was doing music. We knew somebody that knew both of us, and he told me about something like, yo, I-I, he f-h-all-you-a. So I started, you feel-me? We linked up.

Like, he wanted to shoot videos in my hood and my P's. That's my P's, you feel-me? So, like, you know how in Brooklyn you can't just walk through the P's? Like, when you're young, you're probably do some clowns around with you. So he used to be like, yo, Brody, like, I-A-I want to shoot videos. It was broke out. I used to bring him through. Okay.

And what was your impression at the time? Because he was making, was this the era where he was making... He was a rock slag. That's what I was going to say. Because this is like around the time he was Zillacan.

I always been to the day that like, I never judged nobody. So, for me, I used to look at him. Like, he had, um, potential he was going up. His guy was flying.

He was doing 100Ks. Right. Definitely. But was it. Was it odd for you hanging out with him because he was a different type of dude? I've never hanged out with him. Oh, okay. It's like, it's a difference between gang and then there's a difference between, like, bro.

Like, that's bro. Like, that was bro. Gang is like, the guys. Bro is like, feel like with the guy. Like, probably not, he's not involved with the same. But, you know. Right. But did you get the impression that he wanted to be involved in the shit?

At that time, no. He was just on some music. So as his career goes on, did you stay in touch with him? Yeah. I went to the Cuda video with Fetty Whop and A. Buggy. Okay. He invited me to them shit. It's not like I was all the way involved.

Like, he used to tell me, Addy. we kept in contact like yo bro I'm showing a video pull up I pull up but it was like too much to even conversate with bro like to really lock in with bro around that time like it was too much people around and once somebody gets like mega famous

even if you were cool with them before it could be hard to like get the FaceTime in because you got so many people fighting for their attention was it weird for you like how did you get along with Shadi and all these nine trade bloods he was rolling around with? I Regular. Like, that's regular in New York.

Like, when you're growing up in New York, bro, like, if you're outside, if you're the streets, that's a regular, bro. It's regular. I do most of the shit. You feel me? A lot of shit. I know real, bro, like, grown ass, bro. You know what's going on.

Right, definitely. So then he ends up after, you know, exploding and becoming, like, basically the biggest rapper in the world for a while, then he ends up getting caught up on this crazy-ass case. How did you feel when you saw that unfolding? I wasn't surprised, bro. No, because, like, you feel me? I never looked at him in the light to be like,

he on some street shit. I knew him for who he was. You feel me? So when that happened, I'm like, you feel me? Plus all the back door. If somebody's not in the streets, bro, and they didn't come from that shit, like, if you just put them in that,

you can't expect for them, to just hold it down or like this is that been outside for a matter long he's gonna hold it down regardless what happened no you can't do that with bro when you're watching him though did you think that he was tripping

for you know going out of his way to start basically being a member of this gang I think he's tripping I was just like doing you like do the right thing that's it right

because you know there's a lot of artists that come out and sometimes they're like more on the nerdy ear or more lyrical or whatever side of things. And sometimes I'll think to myself, like imagine if that dude just linked up with a real deal blood set out of Brooklyn and like how much that would change their marketability

because reality is that hip hop just loves street. And if you're running around with 20 dudes with red rags in your video, that's going to open you up to a whole different audience and like a whole different level of perception for better or for worse. So, what? Which was accident right there?

No, no other question. I'm just saying, it's kind of crazy. He was so ambitious that he was willing to do something that was pretty risky by linking up with people like that. No cat, bro. Word of my life. Like, I remember, bro, I got a job, bro.

I got a job in a town. I saw him, bro. He's telling me, first he told me about the Tribby Rad. I didn't even know who Trippie Ray was around that time. Like, he's like, you know Trippy Rat? I got a song with him, I-A-A. I'm like, well, I'll do your thing.

He's like, then he said Famous Dex. He had a song of Famous Dex. I knew Famous Dex more than Trippy Red around that time. Word to my mother. That's real. He was doing the right thing. Like, you feel me? And then that's when he told me about that blood.

He was like, he was like, yo, bro. I-a-uh. With rainbow head with blood. Like, you don't think that's going to grow up? Like, I ain't a friend. smart real when not yeah I was I ain't gonna from when he did that it was crazy because he was blowing up more than that we was watching before that bro you feel me like like that been on he was doing numbers more than that I was just like with the f*** this nigga from down the block

right feel me that's motivated me it's crazy too because it would have been really smart if he like was with the gang but not fully with the gang like if he had been okay we're gonna do videos. I'm going to give you all some money. But at the end of the day, you're not rolling around with them ordering murders and, you know, beat people up with them. That's where he fucked up. You should have kept his distance. Like, be cool with these dudes and have some of that image, but don't make yourself 100% involved. To tell the truth, he was arguing with bad or the debt. Like, he should have, like, stop somewhere. Like, he just kept going. He broke it to the next level. That's what, everything.

up, bro. Because after, after you do that, you're going to have to back all that shit up. And he's going to back it up for him. That he was going to back it up for him. Because that's they face on it. You feel me? Skinny, you hit him with a question. You got a hell of a list there. My whole thing is, how did you guys connect after he snitched? After he snitched. Like what set it off like? Basically, boom. When he snitched, he went to jail. I never spoke to him. Never was in contact for him.

I moved to Miami. I just moved to Miami. I stayed in Miami for like a year. I ain't on front. I'm selling weed, bro. I'm selling weed. I see a C-6-9 walking out of the S-LS. You feel me?

Bro, you feel me? Just casual. Niggas, nigga. Bro, come on, bro. I need the bag. You feel me? Oh. I'm like, yo, bro, what's up?

Like, yo, don's, yo, I, ah. Boom, I'm like, yo, what's up, bro? I ain't like, I'm trying to get to the back, bro. Like, what's all? Like, I ain't want to ask them, like, for a handout to tell you what? I don't like, ask, I don't want to ask. So who proposed the idea? Nah, I'm going to tell you.

I was like, yo, bro. Gings, I'm trying to make the bag. He's like, yo, bro, I'm about to do some shit, bro. Took my number. Boom. after that we left like I ain't hear from him

none of that gangster I see him again while I'm outside in Miami yeah see him again this time though I see him

he like yo bro we went to like to dinner he's like yo bro I got a plan he brought you to dinner

like he said yo get dressed yeah no no no like I saw him I saw him I saw him I saw him I bumped into him.

Oh, he's like, yo, what's you doing? He's like, calling me. We went to some, we eat in the shit. He's like, yo.

What he said? He's like, yo, bro, I got a play. He's like, I did, da, da, da,

I got a hundred K play if you let me shoot a in the hood. Honey K. Say her. No, like, off the rip,

I'm like, what? Her. Your exact answer was her. Jack and her. Yeah. Where's my mother I'm jacking at? That was the first proposal.

But as time went on... So when did you guys execute? As time went on, like, basically, that was the proposal. We kept, like, leaving and probably, like, days after, or he had called me or something, we would link up, probably go to a club or something. He's like, yo, bro, then he's telling me about signing... You feel me?

Sign and... He just, he's telling him his match to make, basically he telling me, I forgot how I was about to say, but I don't know. Well, basically, the reason why I find it so interesting is because, like, after the whole six-nine thing, it kind of, like, becomes all drill in New York where you have, like, pop smoke blowing up

and the whole Bronx drill shit, and everything starts to be more like, you have to be seen with your crew, you know? And when he first tried to make his comeback, he's with Nikki Minaj, he's in a random room with a bunch of chival. with BBLs, like, and we all know that in hip hop, like, if you're squatted up with a bunch of dudes or whatever, that's like a certain kind of look that makes you look a certain way.

And that's what we found so fascinating is like, you didn't see him with anyone for a long time. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, these are my new best friends. And like, he just got like a squad. That probably was his marketing plan, bro. That probably was his plan to come back. Like, yeah, I'm going to do this. And we had a plan too.

Like, we're trying to up it. So then you just brought him to the hood? Like you guys slew back to New York together Because you said you were living in Miami Yeah basically We was meeting up We was just doing mad shit He was meeting up talking and shit

Then we made the plan to Do it And then went to the piece He dropped his video I think Or he did previews That was the snippet we all saw With the blue gloves

No When he had the old lady On some demonic He did that snippet Then after that that same day we went to the hood and did anything happen while you were shooting the video in your hood?

I don't know. It was all chill. That's my shit, bro. That's our shit, bro. But did people know that you were getting paid for this and like didn't other people kind of want some of the money? No. The only thing I got money was me and my

like my brothers. The ones to put their face on it. That's a fact. How concerned were you about the fact that people might look at you a certain kind of way by associating yourself with someone who told on such a public level? I don't give a fuck with certain things just thinking about because I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I was really out, like, bro, a lot of people that have

be thinking never even probably shot a gun in their life or did anything, bro. Like, you should be talking, bro, and never been through nothing. That shit is fake, bro. And all that shit fake, bro. And real-life, niggas respect, bro. Mm-hmm. Like, I didn't care about what nobody think because nobody know the pain that niggas been through

or what niggas, like, you feel what me? Niggis trying to, niggis trying to do the right thing. But it probably wasn't the right thing to niggas, but, like, niggas needed the bag, nigger. Niggas had an easy way to get the bag. You feel me? I brought a nigger to my block that he grew up in. I brought him to my block and got $100,000

and I don't even own no property over there. I don't own that building. I don't own that. So if I'm a dickhead for that, then y'all niggas is stupid and dickheads. Okay, at that time in your life, your real true feelings on him, did you think he was cool or did you think he was a bitch?

Like, not what you would say publicly, but like what you really felt deep down inside. I felt like, like, he cool, but not to be trusted. Like, just because somebody cool, you feel me, that means you're supposed to trust him all the way. And from the beginning, we knew knickers was supposed to, like, keep the together forever anyway. So how'd the conversation go? Like, when you called your homies, like, y'all, I'm bringing six-nine to the block. This was going to happen.

Now, I was like, yo, I'm like, yo. I told niggas where it was like yo bro I ain't gonna lie I'm talking about this which I was like

like niggas niggas with it niggas looking like swag her muck up

knick's up Nicker like come on bro he gave you our cash 100K cash 100k cash you heard but

niggas got more than that though like within the time like it was still Ben's getting it throwing it like I used to

bro shit was coming in so fast that I used to really be you know 10 bans I'm like I could really keep to my face I'm really like alright f*** yeah oh he was just throwing money

whenever he needed something like yo hop in this video with me like that shit like that so you were moving around with them a lot in general though were you all like doing the strip club circuit and like going to clubs and like that together I was yeah

and how was that was everybody treating him like royalty or was there some animosity when you guys were going out and shit. No, bro. I ain't gonna lie that instant that shit, bro. Niggas be just... Niggas just gonna look. That's it, bro.

If that's the case, but I don't know, bro, like, nobody'd be on shit. Were you surprised that he was able to spend that much time in Brooklyn and that he didn't really have anybody trying to fuck him up or whatever? Or kill him? No.

It's not that surprising because, like, I mean, I guess a lot of people kind of thought that people would be more vengeful than they were. He was with niggas, bro, and niggas was going to where we stay.

Like, nobody's gonna do not, I know. Was he always having security when you were around him too? Was he like moving intelligently? How he was security, bro? A lot of security.

I ain't gonna lie. I ain't trust no security, bro. Why? You think they're like other cover cops, so you don't want to do an illegal? Type shit.

Type shit. I ain't trust that. I thought that was, I thought the niggas is cops. Yeah, because if I got two security guards with me, me and I'm in somebody's projects

and they run this. No, no, no, no, no. Not, not in the hood. He didn't have security that day. Oh, okay. Not in the hood. But I'm talking about like when we is outside. Right.

Not in a piece though. We never told him, how, no. Like, you can't bring no. They got to stay in the call. Like, they could stay in the car. So you told them you can't bring your security to my projects. That's a fact. They got to stay in the call.

Was he nervous? Huh? Was he nervous? No, he probably felt like, yeah, I would trust already, bro. Hmm. I just want to ask this is, before all this crazy six-nine shenanigans, how, like, were you, like, really in the streets? Were you catching cases?

Are you moving around doing wild stuff when you were younger? I'm not going to lie. I won't even speak on myself like that. Like, if you know, you know, and no funny shit. Niggas in the town, though. Like, a lot of people know, bro. Like, niggas know what niggas been through, bro. Like, niggas been through a lot, bro.

Because we're seeing 6'9, like, treating you like you are super deserving of respect. And we're not really knowing who you are, but we're like, well, shit. If this is his Brooklyn dude and he trusts him like that, then this dude must really be somebody. So. If you know, then you know that's it, bro. Hey, I'll take your word for it. I don't want to, I'm not hyping.

You feel? Respect. Now, here's the question we all want to know. Was he mad when you? you did that clip at academics and Wackle Hunting and Assam Campbell, it's the only rat we jacking. Yeah. I'm not going to lie.

Hey, word to my mother. At the moment, he never act like he was mad and nothing. He didn't even really act mad on the podcast, from what I remember. Yeah. Like, you couldn't, I kind of felt like he should be mad, but he didn't come off mad. Like, he didn't, he didn't, um, nah, he didn't act mad at the moment, but I ain't going a lot. I forgot later on one time. I forgot

what I was saying, I'm like, yo, bro, you want some bait shit. Like, I'm telling him, like, you're baiting. He was like, bro, nobody told you you baited, bro, at the podcast. Like, uh-uh. I'm just like, so, like, I know he probably felt, like, he probably felt like

damn, like you looterty a little bit, like, type shit. Because, like, if I'm him and I got you guys all around me and shit, specifically you, you're like, the one who he actually brought on the podcast with Wack and Hassan and all them. Like, I'm basically

giving y'all money and shit to make me look good and to kind of make the public feel like, oh, like, yeah, he ratted, but he's a cool rat. And then when you said that one thing, you just go, this, no, like, he's like, you jacking rats? You go, this is the only rat we jacking. It was just

like, oh, fuck. Because you're real. Like, you're from the streets. You haven't been in front of a fucking camera for that much of a percentage your life. So you're really saying the shit that you're thinking. But in that moment, 6-9 is basically having you there to not say that exact thing. And that was why I think that moment just hit everybody because they were like, oh, the truth just came out when it wasn't supposed to. I ain't, um, he probably, he probably, I probably wasn't feeling in his whole

girl that he probably not, he probably didn't like that. No funny shit, bro. What y'all do after the, after the interview? Like, what would that, what did that whole night take place of? I ain't going to front, bro, I forgot, bro. How many of you guys came to the interview? Because I remember watching it as mom. The whole projects came, right? We is deep. I ain't going to lie.

Gangster. Was there a bunch of security, too? No. Oh, okay. Because I remember Ack San. No, matter of fact, it was security. I remember Axean. We had a Sprinter.

We had a Sprinter. And then I think we had, I think them niggas used to be in the SUVs, whatever. Black Jeep shit. I mean, him moving around with security, seems like a way better idea than like now he says like I don't have security and you've seen him in Florida with no security and shit and like I don't know I'm not sure if that's a great idea not sure not smart at all if you got you got me so did you guys have like a real falling out at any point or how did this sort of stop being a thing basically son like he got popped on bro we was in next to him like basically we're in a spot

He told niggas that, like, he told us to, like, woke out before him. I don't know why we woke out. He's still with a security guard, though. Feel me? And he was one of my men's. We, the group, we morven, like, 100 deep. Not a hundred deep, but, like, we, like, we marvin. 20 deep, probably.

This is, like, a regular club or something? A little spot in Miami. Oh, okay. So we were working out first. Huh? POS. POS. POS. We walking out first, and they're walking out after.

It's like a, it's a lane. I guess I might pop the bottle. They hit him, boom. One of my means in the security crunched the nigga on the scene, too, though. But they crunched them on the scene. What's crunch mean in this case? Like, beat them up.

Oh, okay. Like, niggas beat them up, boom, boom. I just, I had to check. Niggas beat him up. So a dude cracked him over the head with a bottle? Nah, nah. I think it's just a little punch, right? It was on TMZ.

You don't remember it was everywhere. Oh, okay. You guys posted it. Oh, all right. So, I don't know. Niggas beat him up. Boom. So after that, he still felt like,

because the shit was on the internet. He still felt like he went in. niggas to do something about that shit, you feel me? But you told niggas to go in front of you. He felt like he wanted us to do something about

the shit. I ain't gonna lie. I felt like I wanted him to do something about, like, nigga, my face is out here, I want to do this music shit, you feel me? Or I'm trying to move forward. I'm going to get to this back, bro. Like, niggas been doing this.

You want niggas to get on. You're trying to blow up. He wants to go send you to shoot somebody. Yeah, not shoot nobody. Try to punch some I get some shit. Sure. You want niggas to move backwards and we're trying to move forward. So basically,

niggas fake attempt to try to get back. But I guess it was so fresh because I guess the niggas started doing some podcast shit after that niggas so how you look. But the second day, third day, niggas trying to find a nigga, whatever.

Niggas see the wrong nigger, I guess. know because he didn't want none of it he ain't want us to go like me personally because like my face was out there already so that shit happened niggas didn't niggas didn't get back

and then fucking um niggott just started niggott went ghosts he just disappeared on you yeah stop picking up the phone yeah but niggas needed niggas need it

like shit because he ain't in front he got the crib for niggas ain't from we got a hundred thousand you got a hundred thousand dollars crib all that you were like niggins stopped paying the rent he stopped paying the rent yeah it's over like nah

that's how it ended gangster how much is the rent I ain't gonna friend that she was like six beans last summer check some shit like that that's such a like it's one thing to fuck a girl and then never talk to her again it's like really strange to be

besties with these dudes for a couple months and then just dip. Nigger rented, niggas? Wait, so did you guys get, like, evicted? Like, the landlord came one day? It was like, you guys got to go? Nah, yeah, niggas gave us the boot. I ain't going to front.

Had this. But you knew it was coming? I knew. Yeah, it was over. It was like, you wasn't calling him like, yo, bro, you know the rent is due. No, I tried. Nick, I tried. I tried.

It was clip. Yeah, that's comedy. It was over. I'm like, heard, say that. So you stayed in Miami? Yeah, nigga, I still live in Miami right now. And then what happened to all the homies and shit? The homies still, they still in the towns right now.

You just love Miami so much? Hell yeah. You want to go back? It's like, it don't make sense for me to go back, bro. Like, you feel me? Everybody from where, like, all my friends is dead and jail, bro. I'm not being, I'm not trying to, like, you feel me? I'm just saying some real shit, like,

niggas dead or in jail, bro. You feel me? Some of them, they still out there, bro. You feel me? But, like, niggas, why I'm going to put myself in that environment? I still go, you feel me? I go, see, niggas pull up, I, but if I'm over here doing this, why would I go do that? You got ops in Brooklyn, but none in Florida?

Yeah. So it's like Florida, you're walking around. Fool as fuck? Yeah, I'm Gucci. Damn. How much do you get recognized when you go out in public and shit? I ain't going to lie. Nakers be knowing me.

No fun. in Florida. Yeah. Like, I already know New York niggas know me in Florida.

For the clip of the rat we jacking? Yeah, but I ain't in front words for my life niggas never play no disrespect,

bro. Niggas be on some, like, niggas be on some, like, niggas be on something, like, that shit is just funny, bro,

like, we already know, like. So you never had a conversation with six-nine after that happened? Nah, he only wrote back a little bit,

he was like on something. He said some shit, like, where you were at? Like, he was gonna pull up on me. I ain't gonna fucking never go back in this clip. What stopped you from, like, dissing him and shit?

Because that's typically what rappers or whatever would do, is if they're fucking with somebody famous and they stop fucking with them, they're gonna come out and either do interviews or make music about it or what? I ain't gonna lie, that's just not me, period, bro. I don't even diss my ops, like real niggas that... Niggas that I got smoked with, bro. I would never...

I don't know. It's not me. It's just not me. So how does, like, your whole, like, gang or friends, everybody that was involved in the situation? Like, how do they feel after the fact? Because, like, I guess it got cut short? Nah, bro. Niggas know what they signed up for, bro.

Like, nothing is never guaranteed, bro. Niggas know what they signed up for. Niggas took that arrest, bro. We took way more risk than that. And niggas come outside every day, woke out their houses, taking way more risk than that. Niggas, toting a gun is taking way more risk than that. We just got hundreds, a hundred thousand dollars, probably more than that. Got a crib, niggas doing shit that they never did in their life,

not me, certain other niggas seeing new things. Like, the fuck, niggas, that's not, you feel me? We took that little risk, we got, that shit. Niggas probably look at it a certain way, but I'm on what I'm on. Now, there's a clip that he posted on Instagram around the time you guys were all hanging out, and it was you guys previewing like a song. And it sounded like he was on the adlives, but it was like you and like three of your homies

and he's on the song. How that song come about? My son, my son, K-I, free K-I, you heard. No funny shit. Not the Chicago K-I, very different K-I. Nah, no, no. I seen him in the videos, too. My son, Kewil, you heard.

But fucking, my son said, what he said? It was a beat. He said, he said, we've been, some jillers way before we heard Chicago music. Yeah, I heard that, yeah. Gangster, the nigger 6'9 went crazy,

where? Tad went crazy. Wow, what? He started going crazy. Since we heard Chicago music, no, he went crazy. He was like, nah, we gotta do that one, bro, push that one, uh-uh. Over the simple fact that he said Chicago. That's what, you know,

for his shit, bro, I ain't a lot. He, I don't know. He hates Chicago. I don't know why. Did you feel weird being around him during the whole, like, Fuck Lil Durk, Slot for Vaughn, all that type of shit. I don't lie. I was not jacking that shit at all, bro, at all. Like, you feel me? You know, like, come on, bro.

I was not jacking that. But at the end of the day, bro, nobody, them niggas not doing that for me. Them niggas don't know me. I'm not disrespecting them niggas. He's disrespectful. I know it's however niggas want to take you out at that point, because I'm just trying to get the bag, bro.

That's sick. Because the other funny thing that I just remembered about that interview, you is that there was like kind of at least one moment where they're questioning you about moving around with six nine and you're basically like listen like this is what i got to do to take care of my family to like like what kind of person would i be if i didn't go get this bag and i'm just watching it thinking like that like that kind of thing like it was just kind of obvious that you were like damn like i can really get money this way so yeah i'm going to do something i wouldn't normally do but you know six nine wants you to say the exact opposite he wants you to say now it's my brother

I've been around him for a lot of since back in the day. He's a real one and he co-signs me and that, therefore I'm a real one just like he's real. And I don't care if he told. That's what he was looking for. That's what he wanted. Damn, I was looting it. Nick a bad late, you heard. That's what he was looking for.

I feel. And I've always said this. I was bad honest. I was too honest. You were super artists. And that's what made it so amazing because look, act, whack, six, nine. These are three guys who are super experienced with like twisting the narrative. and making shit what they want it to be,

even if there's a truth that they don't really want to confront, they're going to talk around it. They're going to be tricky. You're out here just being like the real deal. Like there's no camera. He did not media train you guys. Nah. It was like, nah.

Nah, no funny shit, bro. It was too much going on. Bro, you know how much pressure that is, bro? Niggas ain't, yo, this nigga jack in a rat. Bro, you know my DMs is going crazy. So my, I had anger in me like, yo, bro, what's something? Nah. I'm letting nigs know, bro.

That's shit, bro. Nah. I guess it just came out like that, bro. And you've never been on a podcast before. And now you're on a podcast with Hassan, Wack, Act, and 6'9. Exactly, nigga. All that shit I was looking at, like, no, nigga.

I don't kid, Nick. Don Stacks. Like, look, I got credits, bro. Look, I got an interview with these niggas off the rip. Fuck it. Doing your first podcast and, like, maybe, I don't know, 5 million people seeing it, like 10 million people?

That's pretty crazy. And that's not even thinking about the clips. on every meme page, Instagram, whatever. Funny shit. But I ain't gonna lie, though. That's why I ain't gonna lie, I really don't be giving a fuck.

But nobody think, bro. I'm on what I'm on, bro. That's it. So, like, on his big, like, comeback record during that time, like, remember where he put Slide for Vaughn? It was, like, some drill song. Yeah, I shot you,

you niggas ain't shoot back. Right. He shot the video. Half of it looked like it was, like, in a studio, like, with a bunch of water And then half of it was clearly shot Like somewhere in Brooklyn

With you guys Off camera, like when we were talking You told me that you made everybody Grab Shaisties Hell yeah Because they didn't want their Nah, I'd rather Nigger I ain't want them to

Like for me if they wasn't If all them niggas Was ain't about to be with us Every day And I make sure all them niggas is good bro I don't want them to take the risk That I'm taking so Like show their face to the world

Yeah that's a dub bro Don't show y'all face, nigga I'm going to show my face That was it Did you feel like Oh, because I'm moving around with him And co-signing him like this That there's going to be certain game members

That might want to do something to me So all of a sudden my security concerns Are a little different Type shit, but I was not really though But it's like that But it's like on some like Consequences probably could come behind it Right

That's it Like I, this shit probably But that's the meaning of taking a risk Like fuck it So I'm gonna tell you some real shit last summer, not this summer of the one before, I went to Brooklyn for a week with my BMX team and we stayed in Williamsburg

and we just rode bikes every day and it was ill because I bought a fucking security guard to watch my ass while I'm out there armed security so I could be riding BMX with the dude. We were going into all the projects riding like it was nothing. And the reason why I decided to get the security guard is because I started, before I went on a trip,

I was thinking like, do I need security when I'm out there? And I'm like, well, what about those dudes who were with six and nine? I'm like, they seem like they would shoot you. I'm like they seem like they might do something to you because you talk crazy about that fool. And I don't know if you guys were even cool anymore. But like as soon as I started to imagine that, that kind of made me think of all the things that could happen. And I was like, all right, yeah, you know, I'm going to keep a 400-pound guy with me while I'm out there.

But I kind of had you as like the ghost in my brain at that moment of like the Grim Reaper up in the sky. Slide for six. Slide for six go crazy. I ain't going to live, bro. like, no, New York not that dangerous if you're not involved in shit, I feel like if you don't got personally personal shit with people,

then you're good. I feel like that's probably the funnest place ever. But niggas be in the field. Niggas be like they're outside, right? Niggas don't be really outside. Outside, standing outside, and not having no problems.

Like, outside is when you in that field, nigga, you really got to be on 50, watch the back, that's outside, bro. Niggas be cat, bro. Because a lot of people, like, specifically where you're from, because I lived out there in, like, 2008,

that shit has got so much nicer, but I'm assuming it still goes down in Bushwick. Hell, yeah. It goes down everywhere, I feel like. But it's like, bro, most of the people that's outside is out the way. It's only, like, a few personal people

that got shit going on. The percentage is small if somebody getting hit, probably. That's not, you feel me? But not that small, though, because niggas just be doing anything sometime. Now, here's something funny. And that same thing, the GNAe song,

the one I just told you about the Shistis, there was a clip in that video where he's rapping, and it went viral, like I saw it everywhere. He's rapping so close to your face. Everybody said that he kissed you and he was gay. What did you think about that when the video came out? Word of my mother, that's when I realized the internet was like crazy.

I said, yo, this shit could turn different, quick. Like, nigger, I'm like, yo, this shit could really turn quick, bro. Were you getting called like MOOC and shit like that? Something like that from me. What? What's that mean? Mook. That means like, yeah, yeah.

Oh, really? Okay. Like Zesty. Okay. But like East Coast slang. I guess Zesty would be from. up here. I didn't know

what kind of people say, Zesty but MOOC like you're a MOOC bucket Oh shit I didn't know that one

Nickas DMing me how yeah bro just seen me that screenshot bro like

people trolling in the DMs you fuck with a faggot rat Yeah it was wow

I ain't gonna lie niggas was giving me 50 bro I had the whole that down I knew

I like I'm like damn I already know but once I took the shit I said

nah I already know it's some shit about to come with this shit like I already know

was about to come with this shit. Do you feel like he was ever sincere about trying to sign you or anything or really do something for you on a musical level? I don't know. It's like probably 50, 50%, 40%, some shit like that, I think, probably. But I just don't know because once the shit went left, I just know, like, you feel me? Everybody got their feelings, bro. You feel me?

He feels that way. I feel this way. Everybody going to feel that way. You had said, like, during that time, Wack 100 wanted to sign you. Like you said Wack 100 DM'd. Nah, not signed. But he acts. He asks.

DM 6-9, he showed you the phone. He hit DM. I mean, I said he hit DM. He hit 6-9 about me. Like, yo, bro, what's up with Dom? He said, what's up with Dom? He's like, that little nigga crazy, some shit like that. Like, I don't know.

But he never, like, try to connect the dot. Like, I'm like, yo, whack, fuck with you. He told me back fuck with me. But he never, like, it was like, oh, well, gave him my number. He was no shit like that. Do you think he told him after the fact, don't fuck with him no more? Probably. So you think you blackballed you a little bit with the Wack 100 relationship?

No, because I still feel like if I see Wack, I can speak to Wack or some shit. You feel like me? You want me to call? I wonder what Wack would say at this time. Because he probably feels like he can't be super cool with you because of the 6-9 thing. He would probably have to talk a little shit. I don't want to put you through that. I don't know.

You got to go hard for him. as bestie. Shit, okay. I say cotton. You got anything else? What do you? Because obviously, after you guys fell out? Hell yeah.

Can we get one of them who grabbed water? I said OD cotton. O.D. Cotton. I like that. Just skip the mouth. Should I wait to the water? Nah, just go for it. So, obviously, after you guys fell out,

Kodak Black did a song with 6-9? How do you feel about that? Do you think maybe you could have been on the song if you guys were still cool? Were you there at all when the Kodak Black was talking to him? I know you told me another story off-camera that you could share here

that would be really interesting for the viewers. And Adam. And if you want to show. Niggas, what was the question again, bro? What do you think about the whole Kodak Black situation doing a song with 6'9? I ain't going front. I just was like

Yo that shit crazy Because I ain't in front The world Niggas be dick fodders bro Like That nigga, Kodak probably then He didn't get half Like he got a little effect

But he didn't get the effect I got Niggas just trying to Give me a thousand You heard I saw certain people agreeing With Kodak like Nika yeah I will do it too

Like you feel me He's getting some half and half Like I wish it was straight And you did it on a small all the skill. No funny shit. But I don't know, bro. So you can't judge Kodak for it? Oh, judging for what, bro? You got the bag.

Right. The fuck. Yo, bro, whoever think like that, bro, is fucking, bro, niggas be fucking dirty, bro. Niggas don't be having no money. Niggas can't take kid. A kid's a nothing, bro. And worrying about how next nigga making his bag, bro. And, bro, look, gangster. Word in my life. I never snitched in my life, bro.

And my life, you feel me? There's no snitch allegations about me, bro. It'd be people that got snitch allegations about them and be having a nerve to talk or something. Like, it's, bro. A nigger's solid, bro. A nigger just got the bag. That's bad?

Yeah, it's weird to see people who haven't experienced any level of success, have never had to make any kind of. kind of decisions business-wise or have any plays available to them who feel like they can have an opinion about that, you know? Are you, they, do you, you see it, right? This nican know what I'm talking about, bro. The one thing I will say, though, is that I do kind of imagine that if I was Kodak,

and like, I don't know how much money Kodak has, but let's say he's got like $20 million. I feel like if I had $20 million, I wouldn't be doing much that I didn't really want to do. You know, like, feel like once you get it. get to that level of having $20, $50 million that, what the fuck is somebody going to tell me? Like, what's something really going to get me to do something I don't want to do? Because I was kind of surprised Kodak would do it, but I do think that the vast majority of people that were talking shit

would obviously fucking do it. Hell yeah. And I was thinking like that too because I'm like, yo, bro, I'm like, damn, Kodak probably touched Mills before. I'm like, I ain't going to lie. Nika, we never even, we didn't touch a lot of shit, bro. The shit that he gave us, we didn't touch that shit at all. So, nigga, I was.

I was like, fuck it. Yeah, but that mill, he touched that shit, he still was jacking it. You feel me? Because there's money for, what? For just rapping, bro,

the fuck. And he dissed him. Yeah, he did it in a funny way. And if you're Kodak, I mean, Kodak's from nothing. Like, whoever doing it, yeah, like y'all niggas be thinking small, bro.

No funny shit, bro. I respect people. Like, when I heard Kodak say something, but I know the value of a dollar. I appreciated that because I like people who get rich and still don't lose track of the fact that, you know, a couple thousand dollars means a lot or meant a lot to you at one point in your life. So you should continue to care about that. And never mind a fucking million.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. And niggas be, I don't know, bro. Niggas be trying to discredit shit like, bro, niggas don't know nothing, bro. Niggas don't know half of this shit. Niggas been through to be trying to be like, like, come on. bro. His niggas that's really living different bro. Living different from the

other people that I'd be having opinions, bro. What do you think about Quandoando, taking 40 grand from him? Oh no, sorry, Lil Tim is the one who said that he took 40K from him and never did the verse. Nah, he just finessed it right away. He did the right thing. Like, he did something, you feel me? He just didn't even take the verse. He's my son

looted there. He just straight like Zoh. He told you about the story? No. He tried to act like that shit didn't happen. Because remember that shit happened and six nine just went quiet if I would have gave Don Stacks an idea wait a minute and little Tim got away with it maybe I could get away with this honey K real quick bro little Tim like the other shit he did kind of

complicated because I'm a huge Vaughn fan everything but him doing that six sign is like one of the most legendary things I could think of like what the fuck like that's some crazy shit to be able to pull off what are you talking about trust me where my mother like the guys my guys Niggas was in my ear for that You think he was in my ear You know

We should do this We should do that So the idea did come about I ain't gonna lie Like I'm just like I ain't gonna find I'm really a little you nigga pro Like

Feel me I feel me? I feel me I was like Fuck it If you knew it was gonna be cut so short Would you have said Fuck it now

Like if you could Like It wasn't long term enough So it's like Yeah It wasn't long term enough I still feel like For me

I did the right thing Like I'm swagged out I still benefiting it but I ain't gonna lie I would have I would have done some Niggas would have done what

Some crazy backdoor shit Or would you just run off A little or something No no no Some runoff Some big shit though You need to go for it all You told me one of the homies

Put on his chain And slid And he was asking you like No his watch His watch Yo yo where's my chain at Don where's my chain at Oh yeah

Niggas used to be trying To get slick Nikes used to be Going to the hood like let me see go to the hood so you have to go get one of his chains back no no I don't know I ain't go I ain't go get that shit because did he have like enough jewelry that he had like a hard time give you track of it and like so somebody could kind of take something and he wouldn't really notice yeah no funny shit that's real they're trying to make

niggas look good he put giving a nick's bad jury and then just forget one of my sons free my son oh you heard my son oh got the AP right now with that shit What? Like, somebody got an AP off. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Let him keep it.

I don't know what's going on, man. I don't know my son. Because that's the era of the Steve will do it. We're giving each other watches. We're giving each other Lampos. We each got 20 fucking watches. Like, I mean, I would be watching that show on YouTube. Like, what the fuck are these guys doing?

We got too many fucking watches. Did you meet Steve? Hell yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I fuck with Steve. No funny shit. No funny shit. After that shit happened was, um,

Six-nine, Steve would do a dead-ass gave me bread. Really? Some regular shit, bro. Like, see me? It was good, bro. Helps you guys paid a rent-off for, like, another month? Nah, no, not. Not like that, but he gave me some personal shit, I guess.

But, you know, when I heard academics talking about the way that Steve will do it in Sixth-Nine fell out, that's when I really, I felt like I learned something about how even Sixth-Nine's friends view him. Because academics has, like, been super close to him all those years. And he's like, I want to do business with him. like, you know, I fuck with him, but I'm not going to do business with him because I know he ain't giving me the money.

And I'm like, oh, shit. So you think of him like that too? That's crazy. Like, I didn't realize that. He moved on some, he moved on some other shit a little bit. Like, Ack's talking about Steve will do it. Like, Steve is kind of an idiot

for trusting him at all. And I'm like, oh, I didn't realize you thought of him like that. I thought that was fucked up. Act probably on some smart shit. He probably learned his lesson a few times and I was like, nah,

I'm gonna keep them at a distance. Now, you could really just learn how somebody is on how they treat everybody else, you know? If they treated three people like one way and the fourth person,

they'll probably treat you the same way. There was a rumor that young boy was going to do a song with him. Were you, like, around for that? I got a video on my phone or that shit of their conversation. What was being said?

Yeah. What'd they say? No, young boy was like, you got my word type shit. Like, got my word. I, uh, uh. Like, he was about to, um, I think he was going to give him a mail. Like, how he did with the Kodak shit. Basically, young boy probably was supposed to be the first negative do that shit.

But they had a conversation. They were supposed to do that shit. I don't know what happened. Damn, I wonder somebody got young boys the year. Oh, Wack spoke on it. Oh, yeah, he did, huh? So I guess that was all around the same time. He said something like Birdman called him directly.

Birdman shutting your feature down is crazy. Birdman called Wack directly, apparently, allegedly, and said, can you please shut this down? And then that's what I heard. That's crazy. That's a serious black ball right there. I ain't lying. I wasn't there for the other end of the story,

but I was there right there. I thought young boy was about to do that shit. Damn It's interesting I wonder how a young boy Would go about justifying that Because he's the Nobody needs the money less than him

Bro, them niggas don't care Because they They secure with their self boy Like they everybody know What's up with them bro They don't got nothing to prove They're nobody, bro Me too

I don't give a fuck That eyes What have gonna hit you up for a future It's up Nicker The whole The whole New York, the niggas was just at his fucking concert. But what the fuck?

Like, bro, that's what the fuck. That's the shit that be, like, I ain't going from Broadway. You're just like, yo, bro. Like, niggas is just, dick riders or dumb or something. I'm just like, what the fuck, right? You know what's crazy about that is that if you're 6'9 and you're looking at that, he snitched and, yeah, he had a few moments afterwards where, like, he had some songs that were getting a lot of attention and shit. But overall, it felt like his career basically got destroyed.

because he snitched. Then you look at Gunna, Gunna gets locked up for a year, and he snitches, and granted, it's like a totally, totally different thing in terms of,

like, the severity of it. But now it feels like Gunna's being welcomed back way more than 6-9 did. You know that's got to kill 6-9 because he's realizing, like, oh, it wasn't just like this would happen to anyone. This happened to me.

And Gunna was able to, like, maneuver through it, seemingly. No funny shit. Six-9. I probably think niggas on some prejudiced shit or some shit right now. Oh, yeah. Because, like, I don't get that shit either, though.

Shit crazy, bro. Like, I don't get none of that shit because it's like, yo, bro, if niggas really got that energy for a rap, bro, stand on it, bro, just, niggas is accepting this person, not accepting that person,

that shit with it. I don't know. That's why I didn't give a fuck to do what I do. Speaking of, on New York, you and Kool to B got into it, right? I saw something. Not really, I ain't going to lie.

I really, you feel me? I knew Koo-to-B for a man long, too. That was something. I don't know, bro. I thought he dropped the song. I don't know if he was talking about whack. He said something about interviews or some shit, like, with a rat. I thought he was talking about me.

So I ain't know. But I don't know if he was talking about me or not. I don't know. but it ain't like that because it ain't not serious

like to go you feel me be on something like he knows that with me for sure you got anything else um

did anybody else like speak up in the Brooklyn scene like maybe I don't know 2 2Gs or shit sleepy hollow like anybody

that spoke up around that time nah niggas I ain't gonna find to say maybe yeah that's what I was thinking

I was gonna have but niggas wasn't saying anything about us. They was really just coming for him. They was coming for six and nine, bro. I ain't gonna lie. They wasn't really saying that. Unless the only shit was probably the clapping shit. What they say about the clapping shit.

And they, like we on some cheerleading and shit. Like, I don't know. That was the most of it. Other than that, niggas didn't play with niggas, like, on a personal shit. Like... You feel like Brooklyn, Drill or Brooklyn rap is fucked up right now

Compared to the Bronx and Maybe even Harlem and shit No funny shit to tell you the truth I don't know bro I just feel like everybody Followers bro But I ain't gonna lie I fuck with I fuck with All the drill rappers you feel me

But I don't know bro I just feel like I just feel like I just feel like I just feel like I'm gonna When the king of a city gets killed A lot of times there is like a weird period or it's like you don't really know the identity of that place. And I feel like with Brooklyn, when Pop Smoke got killed, that, I don't know. It probably just fucked a lot of people up. That shit did fuck the town up. I ain't a lot.

Pop Smoke is like, would have probably been the biggest nigga right now. Oh, for sure. And honestly, with the Bronx and Kay Flock, it's kind of true, too. As soon as Kay Flock was gone, I was like. Oh, but that's the thing, bro. You got to go through something. You got to really probably, you got to. die, fucking kill somebody

to be the face of this shit, bro. No funny shit, bro. Or have really, really good music like pop. That ass. And then it's funny, bro, because a lot of shit in that world, it should be fake, bro. Like, all this shit that that niggas is doing, bro, or portraying. They learned that from older

niggas, bro. Or they learned that, bro, from probably being in the field they self, bro. But it's like, like, certain niggas don't even be in the field, bro. And they'd be portraying that shit, bro. And they be getting lit, too. It's like shit fake, bro

Interesting Shit fake I want to keep my eye out I'm gonna figure out Who a little fake drill rappers are You could tell me off camera Nah, no no No

It's not nobody personally I'm just saying bro Period Like It'd be a lot of niggas That don't be On what they be on You're saying it in the sense

Like There's drill artists Who've never done a drill But rapping about drill Yeah bro And probably lit for that shit. I think I know who you're talking about.

Or like have a thought in your mind. Like that would make you think that. Nah, it's not nobody, bro, because there's a lot of people, bro. But that's not that surprising to me because even like with Chicago, all the big name rappers and shit when you watch the hood documentaries

and shit, like the killers are almost always like just random guys that you don't really know about and shit. That's why this is entertainment. but niggas is got to keep it there. But if you're a little dirt, you can rap all day about shooting people and killing people and shit.

And it doesn't matter if he never did it. Because if the people around him are doing it, if it seems like shit is happening, that he would be approving or whatever, that's going to fulfill that. Nobody expects him to do a drive-by, you know, or to have ever really been that kind of guy because

it's so obvious that he's a representative of something bigger. shit is crazy now but yeah it's a wild it's wild world yeah you good I guess I have like

just one more question I'm just like because you got to actually be with 6-9 in society like after snitching you like you know you brought up to hood and everything I'm just curious to like

how did like the hood rat ass bitches like treat him like the hood rat girls like you know there's some girls who are like super super gangster like how did they treat him nah bitches They was throwing pussy at him.

Nah, no, no, no, no. They was like, it'll get away from me. This is on our time a little bit. Like, the bitches that was coming around, like, they really went out with time a little bit. So they were, like, they were fucking with us a little bit. But they were, they would have backdoored him if you said so. That's one thing I always found fascinating about Six-nine is that, like,

they said that when he blew up, he just was in every strip club, just every bitch was feeling him. Like, he was just in there with every bitch. Like, as soon as he got money, that's what he wanted to do. And I respect that. He's going to spend that back on the real gangstead. He's going to cash out, bro. But what's the point of being rich and famous if you can't go get some BBLs in your life? He's going to cash out.

He's going to give them hush money and normal. Oh, shit. You feel like he's really got money, or you feel like he's kind of broke at this point? I don't know what niggott be betraying, bro. But I know he can show money and something shit. Make it look like it. I don't know. I see it look like he got it, but I don't know.

That was the weird thing from the whole. Steve will do it saga is that Steve will do it basically said that like six nine because he's exposing shit that basically like when we saw the videos of the Birkenbag and shit and we thought that it was six nine money it was basically Steve would do it period

but he was saying that he got in advance of like two million dollars from Rumble and that he told Rumble that he was going to get a content house and that basically Steve signed on the agreement like guaranteeing the amount of money I know that is some shit yeah he did have the content house

It was the house you guys had. And he said, fuck that shit. What, what comes that house? He said he wanted to get a content house. He told the company. With the advance from Rumble. And he was just supposed to stream once per week. I wish it, right?

That's probably yosh. Now, gangsta, I knew he still had that shit. What's his girl? He probably showed all the paper. What's his girl in the house? The new girl? No, no, the old girl. Jade.

Yeah, Jade. Jade was taking pictures in that shit, bro, after we left, bro. Gangster. I saw it. I'm like, and he was arguing. I think they was going through their shit. I'm looking. I said, no, she and I was crib.

She in the bathroom. She got the crib right now. So maybe he never got rid of it. He just kicked y'all out. And that was the content house? Listen, this might not be, like, there might not be that many people that are interested in, like,

the late stage six-nine drama. But for me, this has been very, very informative. I feel like we've learned a lot. And you're cool-ass dude. It's a shame you got sucked up in all this weird-ass shit. No, no funny shit. on some OD shit, bro, I'll be tight, bro.

I don't be tight. I'll be grateful to tell you, I don't go to fuck, bro. I won't be here now, bro. Talking you, whatever, bro. But I'd be like, damn, my shit gotta, Emma's got to be on some little weird shit

like that's funny. I don't know. But do you feel like in the long run it's open doors for you in terms of more people wanting to work with you and shit? I would never give up, bro. No funny shit, it's up.

It's all the way up. Everything is up, bro, regardless. I don't care. I know it's up. No funny shit. I know it's up regardless, but I just feel like it's funny. Like, damn, what the fuck? You know, it's like you want something so much,

and then when you get it in a weird way or some shit, like, why my shit got to be like that? Like, what I don't know what I'm saying? When you make it back to the top, this will be such an incredible origin story. Now, yeah, they're going to be like, some probably when the sun is like... They're going to be like,

I remember him from when he was running around saying he was, Jack and rats Jack and rats No The show All right Don Stacks

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