No Jumper - Drakeo The Ruler’s First Interview Out of Prison

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

Drakeo is finally out! First thing he did was going to the studio, second thing, doing his first interview with Adam where he talks about how it feels to be a free man, the very little support he received while locked up, rappers bitting his style, his upcoming music and more! Follow Drakeo: https://www.instagram.com/drakeotheruler/ https://twitter.com/IamMRMOSELY ----- FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 FOLLOW OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/529mn7of2HBKdLfrAMUzcK?si=rWVBWCuWSXeh0TFYb2P-dQ CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/nojumper iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/No-Jumper-198283650194402/ http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 and adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No genre. Coolest podcast in the world. Draco the ruler, fresh out. Oh, yeah. How you feeling? I'm feeling. I don't know. I don't know how I feel right now.

Right. I don't feel real. Because not only did you just get out, you got out unexpectedly, right? Yes, I did. You had no idea that when you went in for court that day. We all thought it was going to be weeks and weeks of you going to court. Yeah, it was supposed to be eight weeks. It's a long time to be in trial.

And instead you show up and they just had a completely different attitude? Completely different attitude. I wonder why. You think it's because Jackie Lacey was voted out like two days before? Oh yeah, for sure. Right. There's no other reason. Right.

You feel like the whole system was against you when you were in there and everything? Oh, yes, absolutely. Very specific anti-Drako the ruler. Specific. They were real specific. Really? Yes. Tell me about it.

Well, what do you want to know, Adam? I'm just fascinating because I know you were in there. You were doing what? What was the longest amount of time you did solitary for? Well, I went back there again. So I was there for like 18 months. And then they took my appraisals again before I was in court. So then they put me back there again.

But then we did a wreck. Then it went to the appellate court. And then it was like, you know, we're just going to take the gag order off because we need to rush this trial. Trial date, November 2nd, election date, November 3rd. Really weird. I don't know. I guess things changed after that.

But yeah, I was there for a long time. I was in the worst place you could be in there. Right. 2904. Solitary confinement. Shit is crazy. What's it like being in there for months? What does it do to your brain?

Man, just fuck you up mentally psychilagogy. Everything, like, I don't know. It's hard. It would be hard to, like, trust motherfuckers. I'd be like, I don't know. I still kind of be like that. I can't even hear a door closed without me turning. my head like I was just weird right that's a lot of crazy shit you felt that change taking

place in yourself while you were in there for that long yeah for sure yeah for sure it's like the littlest things is just if even if you're not a violent person or something it didn't make you like that just being down there in that environment because everything is so serious like nothing is like everything is serious like no matter what it is but when you're not in solitary when you're like around the other inmates and shit. Like, how do you feel about that? Like, you're a guy who, I mean, I see you very much loving your freedom, but I also feel like you're somebody who's very, very comfortable in a street environment

and that prison is a little bit second nature to you? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm a celebrity in there, Joe, so it's like, and most of these niggas I went to school with and shit like that, though. So it's not like nothing like, not like another rapper that would come to jail, like, and PC up and all that. I never did nothing. I know a few people who did, though.

Right. Yeah. So you don't run into too much trouble while you were in there? No. I didn't. You told me some crazy stories on the phone when we did type in. I don't know. Yeah, I'm going to get off.

There's a lot of people in PZ in jail. She wouldn't know about. Right. So you get out and what's your mentality? Like, what do you feel like you needed to do? As soon as you get out of prison after doing a couple years like that, what's the first thing you do? I went to, I went to studio, what the fuck?

I went to the studio, I did the music, I wanted to go see my son, just shit like that, a bunch of people that, you know, that wasn't fucking when we started coming around all of a sudden. Really? Yeah. Typical shit that happens when people get out of jail. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

Yeah, because that was one thing that you were pretty upset about at one point when you were really down bad in jail. Oh, yeah, down bad. It's the worst. Yeah. Crazy. Shit, right. Because it feels like if it were another rapper of your popularity,

but who maybe was a little bit more well-liked by certain people. Fuck these niggas. But you name names at a certain point. You were really making it clear that you didn't. I don't give a fuck. I don't care. Like, I'm out now. So they didn't stop nothing.

I know they didn't want me to get out. Whatever, though. You feel like it's like that. Not only are you not getting support from other rappers in L.A., but that they would rather see you. They would rather see me there because they know. Look what's going on now. The spotlight's on me.

You ain't seen nobody post nothing. Ain't nobody dropped no songs. Come on, bro. They know this is what they didn't want. These motherfuckers are scared to me, bro. Fucking weird-ass niggas. How many people you've seen drop music since I've been on at him? It's only a couple days.

Exactly. There has been a lot going on. Come on. Fuck. But, I mean, a lot has changed. Like, when you kind of went... A lot is changed. Hell yeah, I got $150,000 on my neck.

It's a lot changed. Right. A lot has changed. And it's crazy because in the vlog that we did, going to see Rami downtown back a couple years ago, he was actually showing you that piece halfway made with the cat on it. So we're really coming full circle here.

The piece is done, fully iced out, around the neck. And my race. Are you thinking about music when you're locked up for that long? Are you freestiling your head? Are you ever even getting a chance to write anything down? Yeah, I wrote 209 songs. All these songs that the fucking fights don't matter, I wrote in jail.

Every single song that's on the tape, I wrote in jail. Really? Yes, every one. Because that's not normally how you're rapping, right? Normally you are going in and punching in? Yeah, punching in or, you know. Or just kind of go off the top? Sometimes I do that too.

But I began, like, I was getting too high at a point of time, so I just started, like, trying to write shit, you know, because it was too much for me, like. Right. You sober while you were locked up? Oh, for sure. I mean, yeah. I didn't have been in drills and shit like that.

Yeah, that's what people do in jail, been in jail. But you weren't smoking cigarettes in jail? Nope. That's crazy, though, because I wasn't. As soon as I got out, I went right to the store. I was like, damn, I want some cigarettes now after three years. Really? So you stop smoking cigarettes in jail?

Stop three old years. And you get out and you wanted it. Yeah. Yes, weird. What kind of cigarettes did you cop when you first got? Oh, man, come on, man. You aren't giving them the plug? What are you embarrassed to smoke Newport?

Yeah, man. It was like some typical. I was like, damn, man. Like, fuck, I just fitness stereotype. I should have bought something else just because. Oh, my God. So what made fights not don't matter the first song that you wanted to record? Because they don't matter.

They do matter in jail, right? Yeah, in jail. Exactly. Pretty much. So every, every nigga that had been in jail, they know, like, it's just some shit among, like, street niggas. Like, we always say that shit, like, yeah, like, nigga. I'm not fighting no nigga on the streets.

In jail, you have to fight. Of course, you have to fight. I'm not going to be fighting a nigga 6-12, bro. We're not, and that shit don't matter anyway. Because you get into a fight with a nigga, okay, he beat you up. And then what happened?

What happened? He'd get killed or something after it? Then it's like, huh, did that fight really matter, bro? Right. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who wins. All right. You had to fight in jail?

Of course. I had to fight at him. Come on, bro. Hit me with some stories. How to go. I can't imagine you just squaring up with somebody. I don't know. You always just seem like you kind of feel like above it.

I don't know, man. I got a cold right here. Yeah? I like to see that. There ain't no footage of that out there? It might be. I know the truth. Right.

You gained a little bit of weight in jail or what? Yeah, but it wasn't as bad. People making it seem like I gained weight. Like I was way like bigger way in 2017 when I did the impatient video and shit. Like, I was like 260 when I came to jail. I felt like you used to be kind of like lean gut, Draco. Yeah. And now you're like ramen noodle, Drake.

And it's crazy because I don't eat noodles. Really? What were you eating in there? That's like for poor people. Okay. Ramen noodles spreads and all the hell. No, that's how. What are you eating there if you're on some ball or shit?

I was like, okay, we was making, like, see, like, we used to be grilling food and shit in there. Like, sometimes we'll make, like, I was making gumbo. Wow. Like, chili cheese, fry, like crazy shit. Like, I don't know. What do you've been eating out here? You eat a lot? I don't really be eating like that

That's the crazy part I eat Like when I'm there Like we're there It's just like all right Let's go here Like I don't really be eating like that But

Because that was one thing Like when Shoreline really got on And I started to see them at Ruth Chris And eating fucking crazy steaks And yeah That's a regular stuff That's something you do fuck with though Alright

Yeah like I don't count that Can we get the noise off In your phone I don't know how we Oh shit But But yeah, so that's one thing that's really unfortunate is that since you were last on the streets, Grito got locked up. Yeah, that's fucked up. Free Grado.

Yeah, free Grito. He didn't do nothing wrong. Did you manage to talk to him at all while you were locked up or keep that relationship gone? I talked to a couple of times. But he said he don't like getting on the phone with me because I get him in trouble. For real or what? You get him amped up? No, he just, I don't know.

Like last time he said I talked to him on the phone and I don't know. They were talking about you're on the phone with another inmate in jail and all this. Oh, you're not supposed to do that. And I gosh, I guess out there. You're not supposed to do it. I don't fucking know. Crazy. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's, now we got to get him home.

Exactly. We weren't really, I'm going to be real with you. Like, it's not like we gave up hope, but some people that I know who know a bit about more about the prison system and shit, they kind of told me, don't be too optimistic about that Draco case because they're really trying to fuck him right now and it might not be good. Yeah. Of course. The only reason I'm probably home is because Jackie Lazy's lost.

That's the only reason. Yeah. and my lawyers but like definitely they been like it was kind of past having a good lawyer at that point like right I had three lawyers like because John the one who came on the podcast he was he's somebody who's like really really had your back throughout this whole thing right yeah he's a good lawyer too yeah looking out for you and shit what about Jeff Weiss too I feel like oh that's my boy man he's a cool dude it's crazy it's crazy all the way because even like the video that I made about you and shit I wouldn't have been able to make that video if it wasn't for Jeff doing all this

reporting and shit. Like, he really, the amount of time that that shit takes to put together that much information about somebody who, you know, there's not that much local news in reporting these days. Exactly. Right. So, yeah, that's, I mean, he's just done a huge service to the community with all that shit.

And, I mean, another thing that in terms of people showing you love, like, I thought it was really dope that Shoreline had you on your album and shit. Oh, yeah, my boys. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of sucks seeing them break up, though, right? Yeah, no, it's crazy. You think you could bring them back together?

I don't know. I might. It's a possibility, right? So all the Stink Team is free, basically, at this point, besides a couple? Yeah, besides Young Bull and Bambino. And Bambino. Right. And my cousin Ross.

When Ralphie got let out a couple months ago, were you looking at that just thinking, like, do you think that there was a chance that you were going to be out soon, or were you too fucking detached from thinking it was possible? I mean, I knew I was going to get out. I just didn't think it was going to be like this. I knew that I was going to try to make it hard for me. I was going to have to go to trial. I never thought that it was just going to be like,

oh yeah, man, you know what? You can go home today. Right. It was kind of like, it was kind of weird. I ain't trusted. Definitely. Are you trying to, like, okay, what did prison change about you

in terms of your outlook on how you want to live your life right now? Is there anything that sort of changed while you were doing that time? I mean, basically, I just was like, I don't know, like, all that, like, trying to, like, ride around and drive around and a thousand out of cars in the hood and pull up on people I know and places where the police like just are hot at like I was just like that shit don't matter to me no more like

I already know what I got like I don't have to do that I don't have to like pull nothing and nobody like I've been from the streets I grew up in the streets like it's not nothing like at the end of the day all these niggas do is hate anyway like I told myself I wasn't fucking around I'm not coming around these, niggas right because i mean you're hot right now in terms of like the cops we know the cops aren't gonna just magically start liking you or not right i mean that that that's what i think everybody who who gives a fuck about you is hoping is just that you can manage to be a little bit low key this time around oh yeah for sure right coronavirus might make it easy though yeah for sure that might um okay so

What's the whole plan? Oh, actually, no. What I wanted to ask you about was you already had a fucking scandal since you got out. And I wanted to let you know that this scandal is how I know that I really fuck with you. Because as soon as we found out, I immediately said to the group chat, don't post that. We got to talk to him. And I was thinking about it. I was like, you know what?

If that was the case, that wouldn't change how I feel about you. No. I'm not saying it is the case, but I'm just saying, you know. Okay. So let's explain what happened here. you're basically you're on face time with your aunt yeah i was on face time i i just got i just got out of court like what 30 minutes ago hour ago or something that so that was fresh out of prison yeah i was fresh out of jail right and then i was fucking uh my fucking lawyer see this is this is where

this is gonna come probably again because this is the same thing that happened like my lawyer basically was like he was like following this shit and my aunt's like man like he just keep following it's like you got to tell him something like so i I guess, like, she was talking to my other lawyer and telling him, like, yeah, man, I told him, like, I dropped him, like, I go get some pussy, but she kept repeating it. Like, you said what? Then I don't know. She said something else. She switched it up and said something about getting some dick.

Yeah, yeah, that shit went kind of fast. And then I'm like, hey, this nigga, like, basically, I hunt a phone call. I'm like, he watching and she watched everything I do. Like, so it's like, I hunt the phone up, but, like, at the day, I don't know. Come up, bro. Like, I don't explain nothing to no nigga at the end of the day. Yeah, that's good, though. The fact that people are even looking to clip this sort of thing and create a narrative.

I was like, I was like, damn, bro, I must really like be famous now. Like, it's crazy. Like,

I was like, all the good shit, but I'm like, man, when they started saying bad shit, that's when you know. That's when you know you're there. That's really.

You're like a Kardashian. They want to like, come up with a story about you and shit. Yeah, they want to come with a story. I'm like, damn, bro. Like,

you know, at the end of day, like, because like, there's no way I could possibly be gay, bro. You can't even be housed in the same module. It's politics in jail, bro.

So, like, come on, bro. I mean, I would have to be, like, PC or something, bro, because they housed them over there, like, with the people like Soldier Boy and shit that was over there. But, yeah, that's a other story. So Soldier Boy was in PC. Yes, he was in PC. You seen him in there?

I seen him in there. What do you think of that? I think that that's kind of weird that you're in PC, but you got my name and you putting big on my name and you was in a PC module. Don't put, don't, like, that's weird. to me, bro. And then on top of that, he was dick riding. So it was just kind of weird. Like, oh, Draco, I fuck with you. Like, I'm like, yeah, the police is like, you know where he

at? I'm like, yeah, he's in 3,300 on the PC's on. Right. But if you're as famous as him. It doesn't matter. You don't, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I feel like if I'm soldier boy, I'm not trying to be around everybody. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You don't respect that? It doesn't matter. It's a lot of niggas that was main line. Like, it's just famous people that was on the mainline. You were told me that you were like across the hallway from the dudes who killed Pop Smoke and that they were just regular guys in there. Yeah, it was regular. My neighbor.

Right. And that was just- Young as shit too. Right. Is that kind of crazy? Like there's so many people in there who are involved with high-profile things? Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

There's a lot of people, it's like, there's so many people in jail. Like, the only reason I, I mean, I guess you would be in PC, like, some of most people, like, if you're a sex offender, there's no way you, like, you could walk the mainline or something. But if you're a regular person, they give you a choice. It's like me. Oh, do you want to go to high power? Do you want to go to the mainline? I want to go to the mainline. Well, why would you want to go to high power in the first place?

You get chained up everywhere you go. Like, it's just weird. Like, you sit in the fucking cage. Like, that's like, it's already some PC shit in general. Right. But it's not PC. But when you choose to go, like, I want to go over there, then it's like, no, I can't respect that shit.

Especially all them guns. And then you, like, put my name me, you're fucking, like, it's just weird, bro. Like, it's weird. And he knows who I am. So it's just kind of weird. too. Like, right after I went to jail, it's like, ah, big Drake up. But then it's videos are you listening to impatient, singing it word for word. It's just kind of weird to me. Like, yeah. So you

don't really give a shit if he's a fan? I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I respect that about you. Like, most rappers are really happy to get any kind of recognition from a more famous rapper. I don't respect to the fact you don't give a shit. I grew up in the street. So like, yeah, I grew up around people with money. I have money. So it's like when we go to the club and shit, it's like, all right, he's famous. But. We threw more money to him tonight. So what? That shit don't impress us.

Because then it comes to, are you famous, you got money, and then you come to jail. Everybody comes to jail. Now you're on a PC side. I was like, damn, bro, what happened?

I really fucked with your music, right? What happened to all that killer shit and all that shit? As a rapper, it's tough to stay. And I'm not any of that. I'm just for the record.

I'm not any of that. Definitely. Are there any, like, like, could you imagine getting hit up by like a bigger rapper and actually wanting to work with them at this point or is that just not even we're interested? Oh yes there's a couple people here that I would work with but I'm not just like no oh my god this person hit me up like no it's got to be like a real connection or real respect yeah and it got to be somebody I actually like like like I can feel this person's music

and it's just like I don't know who do you even fuck with like that I don't feel like you listen to anybody besides yourself I do listen to myself I listen to my brother I listen to that I don't know I like I love I love I love I like little baby shit. Yeah. I like a lot of people. I like gun and shit. I like Money Man. I like a lot of Detroit people too.

Yeah. Rio, the Young O.G. Yeah. If we get you on a song with him, I might never listen to anything ever again. Yeah, I'll do a tape with that, that thing. That's all we do is talk shit all day.

Okay. See, now it's got to happen. That would be a movie. You got to let us shoot the video too, though. He about to be out here. I'm gonna line up play up. There you go. Lines some more plays up.

There we go. Hand on Adam in the building, man. So, damn, though, like, so do you feel like really determined like you're going to actually make the, because that's what really sucked about you being locked up for those years that we felt like Draco was being robbed of the momentum that you had been building up because we had seen your career go up and then get locked up. Stop. Go up, keep building up, and then boom, you're back locked up. It happens all the time, though.

I just get bigger and bigger every time I go to jail. Right. My brother said I should start dropping albums because every time I'm a mix thing I come to jail. So maybe I don't know. This is a depressing thing to go on Apple Music and just see Cold Devil as the most recent release for years. Yeah. And to just have to keep listening to the same tape. That was kind of unfortunate, you know?

I'm going to top that one for sure. But you did, you actually made a lot of noise from your jail verses, which normally people don't seem like they really give a fuck about. But you managed to make it sound pretty good. And people were actually really fucking with it. Like getting good reviews and piss-for. I said, I got 8.5 on a piece where I got more than coming down. I was like, what the fuck? Most of these people are recording in studios.

It's kind of crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. All right. So we asked about the fucking scandal. The scandal. The scandal. There was nothing to begin with an anniversary.

I think that the fucking reason why that took off, though, was because the image of you going like this to turn the fucking live off. That was so funny. Bro, because we watch everything I do, bro. So it's like, we are the fall. He talks about some, yeah, I'm right behind you guys. We were going to go eat tonight and I'm like, this motherfucker

watching the lie right now. She's on the phone talking to somebody else and we're going somewhere totally different and he's just on the phone like watching me. Like these motherfuckers lying. Right. Fucking John. What is your attitude on people

who want to do something to you at this point out here in the streets? Like what is your attitude on people potentially being on social media saying that they want something bad to happen to you? Like going back and forth? doing police shit or like that oh not even that just people basically acting like they want they want to hurt you on social media right yeah i don't care they've been wanting to hurt me for a long

time bro so it's not nothing new it's like it's been four years bro get over it like that's how i feel but it's not about it people been not liking me bro like people feel like like i always say i talk shit bro but that's what i do if the shoe fits wear it niggie i'm not basically going out there saying, nigga, you did. And this song is for you and this song is for you. But, like, most niggas, they can't relate to the shit I talk about so they feel like I'm talking about them. That's not my fault, bro.

Like, I don't, you know. Fuck them, niggas. It don't even matter. But broken nigga in opinion don't even matter to me anyway. Like, fuck, I don't. Right. It doesn't matter. Because at the end of the day, these niggas is broke.

And what are they going to say? Like, oh, well, you don't know. You ain't been through where all I've been through. Bro, I fought the death penalty, bro. So I don't want to hear that shit, that crying and whining and shit, bro. and I still had fame and all that shit, bro. So nobody can hit me with nothing. I've been places that people ain't never been.

I didn't seen shit that people ain't never seen, bro. So all that sympathetic shit and all that, and you don't know my situation, all that. I didn't been there, bro. I was here. Not too many rappers posted my case, bro. I know the truth. They wanted me to be in here.

It's a nice. A lot of people that did, but most of those rappers were from out of town. It's a lot of people And most of the people that did post my case or something It was people that were like under me That like got on off of my shit Or like that just genuinely fuck with me And they just felt like all these old niggas

Was hating on me Right I'm older now though So I guess I'm considered an old nigga now Well it's crazy because I feel like You getting locked up Kind of open the door for a bunch of people

A lot of people People should thank me They made millions of dollars And they're able to take care of their kids off of my shit, off of my hard work while I was sitting in jail, worried about if I'm going to fucking get life or life without parole or the death penalty. But it opened the door for all these people who are clearly influenced by your raps to get on.

Yeah, that too. And it's kind of weird because some people like, but then I get it because like the people that, you know, that got on and all that, like they rap like me so much, like they start to think that they're me. So they get the attitude that I got like, oh yeah, like, I get the cocky attitude. but that's my attitude bro you got that from me bro you got that from watching my videos bro like at the end of the day

I mean I don't be hating on nobody but just like it's my shit though bro like just acknowledge it you don't have to be like oh big bro I love you and all this other shit but just like yeah bro like you know I start rapping because of him or you know I felt that you know that's different I don't know but you know people they just I don't know I don't know what they think

I haven't heard of people out of nobody since I've been out of jail though all those same people crazy. Do you think that, I don't know, you think shit's just going to change this time around? Like, are you ready to do more of the, there's an extent to which I understand that you're an asshole and you're a grouch and you like it that way? But are you in certain ways, like, do you want to sign a deal? Do you want to be going and doing these radio interviews? Do you want to fucking be a little bit more social and friendly with motherfuckers? I am friendly, though. I'm friendly, though.

You fuck with me. You've always been crazy cool to me, but it just doesn't seem like you, are eager to let people into your comfort zone. I mean, look what happened to us, Adam. We all went to fucking jail, bro. All of us, bro. I just don't understand this. I probably won't be like open and frame like that because look, you've seen what happened to us, bro.

It was like 15 of us, bro. We're all rappers, bro. How the fuck did we all get indicted for fucking rap videos with guns and shit? But these motherfuckers out here be all day, blood and cousin, rags in their videos, talking about how they shoot people and all the time. Not none of these people come to jail, bro.

Like, that's kind of, that's weird to me, bro. So I don't think I would be open to just having people around, bro, because they don't have the same intent that we do, bro. Like, they ain't been the places we've been, but everybody's a thug, everybody's this. And I even tried to warn people. I told people on Twitter all that all the time. If you think that you can get arrested for having guns in your videos,

you can't. If you think that there's with you will, and people still do shit. And I'm just wondering, like, these people are I'm coming to jail, so it's weird. Are you not going to put that kind of stuff in your videos anymore? No, I wasn't doing it when I got out, the first time.

It's just too much. Yeah. If you see a good at my video, it's not real. It's going to be a prop gun or something. Right. Yeah. It's going to be a script or something. Respect.

No, yeah, that's smart. Yeah. I don't know. It's been wild just having you locked up for all these years. It's kind of surreal to see you back in the field. But, I mean, it's crazy, too. I was thinking for a minute it might be a Draco clone. Like, they had a Gucci main clone,

But I kept looking. I'm like, nah, you know, that is him. He just, he just been having some wrong with noodles. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he looks like, yeah. Because, I mean, a couple of years can really change how somebody fucking looks, you know? Yeah, yeah. I have a lot of tattoos now.

You do? Yeah. But you didn't have almost any before? No, I had some. Like, I've been having my head tattoos and shit, but. Right. Like, I didn't have any tattoos. I got bored and jail.

It was just like, I got the Ralee put on you last night? Yeah. I already had it, though. I just went over it. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's a Cartier watch, I just. Right. You got to tell it just to cover it up, huh?

Yeah, it was reminding me. I got to think about the past and all this other shit, like just good old days and shit. I was like, you know what? I'm attacked this on me. Let me ask you this. How do you feel about people who might have snitched on you or how do you feel about, like, has that changed you? Seeing somebody not live up to the code that you would want the people around you to live up to? Yeah, but it's like, I don't know.

Like, people don't live by the cold no more anyway. Like, the cold being went out of the window. I'm not saying that that's cool, but I was just like, it's not a surprise no more. Like, I mean, like, I've seen six and not get out of jail and people were taking up for the nigga. Right. Like, oh, my God, what would you do in the situation?

Like, shit like that, bro. Like, I've seen all type of people like do stuff, bro. Like, I got out of jail. This motherfuckers is wearing masks and shit. Like, it's just weird, bro. It's a whole different world now. Right. So you got to know what's a thing.

expect it's not like nothing new people being telling like people are just more out with it now because they know like oh i got the police behind me and if he said something i'm just going to send the police his instagram post or shit like that bro like uh no i don't feel no type of way about nobody uh fuck snitches though but um i don't know i'm sure sure um yeah that's i don't know it's crazy to have you back i'm just excited when you think you're going to drop this project that you're working on i mean i was trying to job this week bro but I'm waiting for people to send back their fucking brusiness bro like you know so maybe next week by the latest I'm already done with

I just got a couple of features I need I'm saying but other than that I'm done with it right you got more jewelry plans or are you good oh yeah no I'm not good I'm not good I'm gonna keep doing shit because they don't understand I've been in jail bro like I said bro three years bro fighting the death penalty bro like fighting life twice bro for some shit that I didn't even fucking do, bro, and I got a credit there, bro. So, and I was down and out, bro. Nobody was fucking with me. Nobody was posting my shit, bro.

So I'm going to keep fucking shit over, bro, until these motherfuckers get the point. And then when they get the point and say, Drake, all right, I'm sorry, we get it. I'm going to keep fucking shit over again, bro, because they don't get it. Right. They haven't been where I've been. Nobody haven't. The charge of fucking fought, bro. I don't know.

A rapper, nobody. Not one person, bro. Like, I didn't see people fighting. shit. Like I thought Lil Busy had me beat. He doesn't. He doesn't. I had one murder, one conspiracy committed murder, five attempted murders. I think I made history. Right. But hey, that doesn't mean nothing. I'm just saying. But is that shit crazy for you to be to have, what do they do? The, the gang. Yeah, the gang conspiracy. The gang enhancement. And I tried to warn people. As soon as I try to warn people about it, they shut me up like, hi, gag order. You can't talk about nothing no more.

Like, they even threatened to delete my Instagram and Twitter, bro. Like, it was crazy. Just because you were speaking out during... Speaking out, yeah, about the gang. Because nobody knows about this fucking law. Like, they've been there for like 20-something fucking years, bro. Nobody knows about the shit, bro. Criminal Street Gang conspiracy, $1.8.2.5.

They said that... They was trying to say that me having bitches and money and shit like that was like... And that's a part of the gang life. And, like, and that's how I could benefit from a... that I was acquitted of and didn't do. Right, because that was the thing that really took me back when I was really investigating your case, and I'm like, oh, so they don't even think that he shot somebody. They don't even think that he ordered somebody to shoot somebody.

They think that he basically created an environment in which it was kind of inevitable that somebody would get shot. And I'm like, how is that shooting that I didn't know about? How is that going to happen? Like, how was it going to be inevitable? Right. It's weird. And it's like, they, but they, but they,

this is the thing. They try to say any felonious crime. So they were trying to all them commit burglaries. So they're saying since a murder happened and I know about

felonious crimes and criminal activity that they could prove that they could prove that I know about my brother or whatever people allegedly commit burglaries that they could find me guilty

of murder for knowing people that commit burglaries and shit bro like come on bro but that's the law though they need to like they need to take that shit off

That shit's crazy. That was using me as an example, though, because if they would have got me, then they would have started using it on everybody else, and people would have like, you can't do that. And they were like, look at the Caldwell case.

He had money. He had followers. He had fame. And the judge and the case law. I know how they do that shit, bro. But when you took the plea deal, is that basically closed the door and you being able to sue the city for...

Basically, that's probably what it was. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't really going to sell them anyway, I don't really care about. I was just... I was ready to get the fuck out of there. I ain't sue them for what I don't need They take money out of

Yeah Probably a waste of time It was gonna take fucking forever Yeah Then they were just gonna come at me And start Putting snitches and people around me And all of a sudden

Now I'm in jail For a gun or some shit Like it's just weird Oh shit Like shooting at a show And they try to blame me for Just so they don't have to pay me out I know how this shit go

Like shit I'm not I'm not trying to be like no I'm a street nigga bro I'm not trying to be Malcolm X or no shit like that bro martinil de kean i just just trying to like let niggas know what's going on yeah and niggas still didn't care shout to all the people who signed that petition though i just even though i still got out though it might have worked yeah because that was one thing you said a certain

point is that it wasn't the rappers it was like the white kids and the fans and shit who actually listen to your shit they were rooting for you yeah it was a couple rappers though like that was always there like all black oh jizi shout out of black yeah that's my boy all black oh jizzy like one take bravo and them right like the people like the young people that's under like my type of wave anyway so it would make sense but oh even RJ even RJ even RJ pausing me like yeah shout out RJ yeah that's all water under the bridge now yeah yeah that's not yeah I'd do some shit with him but you go to them out the trunk shut all I can't believe just get in just getting just I can't believe they really patted that shit in my child I know isn't that insane that's such like a

they grabbed this that like clearly you weren't being literal about and they tried to make that out like it was a whole thing. And it's crazy because it's like that's why I was trying to explain to people like don't say certain things bro. Like like you know like come on look at that bro. I said I had a nigga in the truck that wasn't in the truck bro and they played it at court like but people think like oh yeah I can't do that like he had to do something else until it happens to them and they're like oh bro I want to cry about it I've been trying to warn people I'm not the only person they did this too but they just came at me harder than everybody else

like right yeah she was fucked up um yeah all right well hey man city is fucking thankful to have you back or at least anyone who cares about good music exactly I'm excited man thanks um I don't know you got any words for the people

oh yeah and I'm back I'm gonna fuck everything over like I'm not I don't have no sympathy for nobody if people thought that I was going to get out and be like humble and be after all this shit I meant through why get out and try to change now it's no point like if I got out and tried to change the motherfuckers be like oh that's not the same drag go fuck that I'm not listening to that shit I know how it is I'm not going to get out rapping about jail all day because nobody wants to hear that shit um shit uh there's tape probably for the job next week we know the truth because we do know the truth

um shit you're free the homies free kills free rising free nutting free everybody in there man i've been there i made it i made it for all of us i'm out so everybody gonna be straight and uh oh yeah fuck these news could you imagine leaving l-a yeah i'm i'm gonna stay out here at the fuck okay uh that'd be dumb as fuck yeah because you're somebody who's like always been here but it also feels like you don't really give a fuck about other people so you might be a good person to sort of like move away a bit and sort of have some space between you and the urban environment. Yeah, like, after Nipsey died, I was just like, that was the only, like,

I hope I had like, okay, you could come back and, like, be here sometimes. But after that shit, I'm like, nah, I'm cool. Right. That's how. Damn, because last time we did the interview was before and it passed, huh? Yeah, I seen it on TV. So we never. I can't delete it.

Yeah. Wait, were you locked up when that happened? I was locked up. God damn. Yeah, she was crazy. Yeah. So that sort of really, like. you know that nobody is safe further?

Yeah, because that was the only person that people always be like, look at Nip, like he comes to that, like, he still comes, and then after that shit, it was like, like, nobody can't really say that. Like, who comes? Like, over here, no more, nobody really. So that shit kind of had me like, no, I'm straight.

There ain't no reason for me to keep coming anyway. It's not nothing over there, but like, I, there's nothing over there but trouble. I made a pit stop at the store and came to jail, right? Yeah. To get some cigarettes, bro. I was like, shit.

But then, but you hit a burner, behind the granola bars or some shit, right? Adam, that never happened. What are you talking about? That's what I read. Tuck the burner behind the granola bars? That never happened, man. That sounds like a trapment or something.

I don't know. It's a good spot for it, though, the granola bars. No, and never happened. What was it? The Lucky Charms or something? Don't listen to him. He's lying. All right, Draco.

Keep hitting them, man. We just need more music. We've got to fill up that whole iTunes shit again. Oh, they don't worry about it. I got to do the whole thing. you get in GTO shit all we're getting anyway because people like Granddad photo a lot so you're gonna redo the shit you didn't jail yeah oh that's smart you could do that shit in 20 minutes yeah exactly there we go it's a lot of songs too so people won't be complaining

damn that's a great idea I mean I did that bet you over anyway and that's it was six minutes there you go yeah yeah I had a lot of shit to do flood them flood the streets yeah fred go the rule of my man appreciate you gee much love yeah no jumper coolest podcast the world check us out on YouTube sound cloud iTunes like comment and subscribe nojumper.com if you want to support. Appreciate y'all. I know the truth. Free greet up. That part.