No Jumper - Dreamllife Rizzy on EBK Jaaybo Beef, Swamp Storiez, Bay Area Politics & More

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Dreamllife Rizzy talks about his upbringing, Thizzler being Biased, calls out Turtle2125, explains all his beefs, and more. ----- Check out e420 app for deals Apple: https://spn.so/g6gbid5j Google: https://spn.so/104g2yp6 use code NOJUMPER for $$ off Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month    / @nojumper   Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper    / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22   adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You be trying. Oh, man. You know, okay. I've been meaning to tell you this for months. Oh, my gosh. Do you know? What? When I was with Hididid J3 in New York, he was playing unreleased Hidda and Mazi.

Oh, shit. Let's just say Mazzi took your ass down a peg. Did he? Oh, yeah. Yeah? I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was something like, tell that stupid bitch at least to shut the fuck up. I might have. He said that?

It was something like that. And you're just not telling me, Adam? I know, it was like three months ago, I forgot. I would have been bliss and old park the past three months. You're going to respond? I'll be a ghostwriter. It's good. I'm telling you.

I really do this shit. Yeah, they said, I don't know the politics in the Bay Area in Sacramento and Stockton. How y'all feel about it? Sleeves. Rizzie? No, I ain't going to lie. Some shit y'all be your own point about, but then it'd be on point about. A lot of shit y'all be on point about.

But then it'd be like, you know. How do you guys feel about Adam, like, and starting like starting to get into the Bay Area scene with rappers. I ain't even been out there. Yeah. But not recently. Right.

But you're covering Bay Area artists right now. Supporting artists from the entirety of California. Supporting. Not stirring up gang warfare like you. Okay. Listen, actually, that was not intentional. So that's neither here or there. So.

You know, normally I'd do something in these interviews. No Jumber coolest podcast. Welcome our guest, Dream Life, Rizzi. who is one of the predominant rappers blowing up out of Northern California Bay Area to be specific. Yes, sir. Let's get into it, man. How are you feeling? I'm doing good, brother. I'm high as hell, but I'm good. Yeah? You guys just drive down here?

Yeah. That's a good time to smoke a lot of weed is when you're driving on the freeway. Bro, them tripping. I don't smoke. Oh, so I'm lulled. But it's good, though. The Don Julio is going to shake me back. Oh, hell yeah. Okay, man. That's going to balance me out. Hey, I'm going to lie. You got some of the best music coming out of Northern California right now for show. I appreciate that. Yeah, man.

Okay. Did you have anything else you want to stir up in there before we get into his life story? I did want to stir little things up. How do you guys feel about Swamp stories? Swamp is like, to me, he liked the old school DJ academics. Like when nobody knew what DJ academics looked like, when he was just doing like Hell of content on Shirek, it was like that. Like nobody knew what he looked like until like so many years later.

Everybody hated him, called him the police, whatever, whatever. And he was just really just covering a whole bunch of shit that everybody was talking about in the streets. And so me personally, like me personally, like, I don't got no plight against him. I think all publicity is good publicity. So, you know, if it's putting shining light on everybody in the Bay Area in Northern California specifically, like, I think it's like, I think it's dope. Like, I think he could keep doing what he doing. And niggas tell him that shit everything he posts him. So, yeah.

This niggas DM and, you know what the fuck is. Not for show. It's a lot of people DMing him like, you know, yeah. Yeah, bro, like this will happen and this will happen, but it's like... Oh, yeah. Would you rather he make you sound like you're super serious in the streets and have, like, people seeing that who don't really know about you and respecting you as a result of that, or would you rather he basically be like making you sound like you're not into shit?

And then, in theory, the cops don't investigate you because Swamp Stories told them that you ain't on none. I'm going to keep it silent. Regardless whether Swamp Stories tell the Pope or say anything on his blog, If you tell the police or say anything on his blogs, whatever, if you really get in the streets, the police are going to know about you regardless. Your man going to ring bells. So what he got going on, that shit don't influence.

Nothing the police be doing. When they on your ass, they on your ass. I mean, the cops can tap your phone. They can follow you around. They can check security. Like, they just have access to so much shit that I think that rap. Rap fans are kind of like oblivious when they think that a Swamp Stories video is tipping the cops off. Although I do feel like the cops do watch that shit.

and they do they put puzzles together from it but people just need to remember like how much access they have to information that no YouTuber or no street do would ever be able to have. Nobody can go, hey,

AT&T, show me six years of this guy's conversations. Yep. People just don't know how serious it is though because the allegations be crazy saying somebody kill somebody or something. The police be looking into that. Like that type of shit.

They could just post Dream Life just killed. The police for sure going to look into it like damn. Why didn't you're saying that? like. I don't like that type of shit. But I'm going to tell you like this. Before the internet know, the streets is going to know. I'm going to tell you like

that. Before the internet know, it's so many CIs and shit within these neighborhoods within these gangs and all this shit to what they don't know. Before any blogger, no. I'm going to just be honest with you. That's really how this shit always been. Like, that's been

the gang culture. He's been telling. No, I'm not. He's not delusional. He stayed in facts. That's real facts. Please don't do that. Well, you don't think people are telling? I'm saying people like the internet is like not the streets now internet people find out shit from the internet first now you'll see somebody die from on the internet first i beg to differ yeah you'll see that brother you'll see hellish in the street but actually but actually hearing about what happened you

you know bro come on stop playing we ain't even do that but there are things there are things that like everybody in the street seems to believe that the cops just have not prosecuted but then a lot of times down the road you'll they they will they'll just like complete the investigation people always forget about the fact that the feds will investigate something for three, four years, whatever, and then drop the charges. Seven. Yeah, for sure. And people always underestimate that fact.

But also, like, man, if there's a video with a million views, I mean, that shit just is putting a light on some shit to an extent that a lot of times the cops can't ignore it, like certain things like the ditty shit. Like, that shit was in the media. Every day, R. Kelly is locked up because of a documentary. You know, like, the media can definitely influence the cops. They only have so much time to put into shit He did that shit though.

Are Kelly Ming. Yeah, R. Kelly's Grammy's for sure. But they weren't going to prosecute him at one point and then the documentary kind of started up. Yeah, for sure. The internet just hyped shit out for real. Those might not be tripping about something until the internet blow it up.

And they're like, damn, we got to do something because they're making it like hella bad. That's true. On the departments and shit, for sure. One other Swamp Stories thing, though, is that I'm not going to go into detail, but it has been discussed that he might be doing a face reveal soon.

Never. bro Swamp could do a face reveal but you feel me like he gonna get a lot of hatred like I don't know how he gonna recoup like you know what I'm saying like he gonna have to do some different shit

he gonna have to catch a different fan base in a different light so move to Texas and then do the face reveal he said he live in Louisiana and I believe yeah yeah you don't never seen post like I'm in Louisiana right now

what's that? This didn't have no dime oh yeah that's okay okay all right rep the side of this Are you guys going to make Adam take a shot? Adam doesn't drink. You don't drink?

I'm still on the caffeine part of my name. The last time Adam drink during an interview. Honestly, that is what I need. I need to chill the fuck out. It's been a long week. Yeah. I'm too high. Can I ask you guys one more question, though?

Let's do it. So have you guys heard about like any of like the YouTube videos being in like discoveries? A part of investigations you guys haven't. Oh, yeah. I heard about it. How do you guys feel about that? Me personally, I ain't never heard about no, like, no YouTube video from like a media platform being in somebody discovery.

Like, oh, we found out this information from a Utah. I ain't never heard of that. Because Swamp Stories makes you sound like the grim reaper of San Francisco. Nah, I'm just a rapper, bro. I just be doing my thing. He's guessing it. I wouldn't say that, but I'll just be doing my thing, you know? Like, it's always going to be a narrative that get pushed out in the streets.

me like, you know, I'm not going to say like I ain't never did nothing, but I ain't never did nothing. Like, you know, I'd just be rapping. I do this shit for entertainment. It's fun, though. I did see you say, uh, you ain't nobody in your hood until you caught a body. And it appeared that you were talking about your own hood. And then I was thinking, well, you're somebody in your head.

Right. You be trove. I know my brother didn't say that. He did say that. He just didn't think we were going to take it the way that I take. I take everything super literally. Nah, look, on some real shit, though, I was really talking about, like, general.

In general, yeah. Like, in general, like, now our generation is so f*** up to where, like, you don't have a name until you, like, you don't have, like, a real name until you kill somebody. Like, and it's fucked up. What? I'm saying, you're going to hit it?

Sure, you want me to hit your big old white blunts? Sorry. Because it is heavily influencing Adam right now. He got a blanket on the thing. Because, right? You want him to hit the bottom. And hit the, okay. Hey, listen, it's been a long time coming.

We've been waiting a-in-for-in. The last time Adam hit a bottle or a shot during an interview, I think it was with bands. And Northern California artists was with bands. Come on, let's do it. That interview was interesting. Out of here. I'll do heroin right now.

Nah, don't fuck with that. You don't even know I just said that. Did I not say that on the way down there? I said, niggas, go down and get some eggs. You're playing crazy. No, I'm going to do 10, 15 milligrams of Perkinset and just sit here like it ain't none. Now, then perks ain't cool either.

See, that's why you're... 10 to 15. 10. I can't go full 30 on them. That's crazy. Not blue. Oh, yeah. I was 10 a month for this when I got shot.

When I got shot, I was on perks heavy. Just then, though? Hell yeah. I got off that shit quick because I kept nodding off. Mm. Kept not enough bad. I ain't like that shit. Yo, it's a crazy thing when somebody you know who doesn't get f*** up gets like a serious injury and then they're in the hospital.

Yeah. And they're on hard drugs because that's what happened to four extra. He had never been on perks or anything. like that and then he was in the hospital he blew his hand off and he's finally experienced in that shit. Yeah, bro, how he's doing? His hand still f*** up.

I mean, I know he's still f*** up, but like he cool like as far as like the movement and getting all the way back. He ain't really talking to me right now, so I'm going off secondhand information, but he did say that he had metal in his hand. So I don't know if they like put a bunch of metal shit in there to like piece it together and shit,

but I think he's missing at least like two fingers. Oh man, that's unfortunate, man. I hope he get right. I hope he get better. The show. You ain't handing this, right? No. No, you'll die.

Yeah, I said that. Because we had a hell of fun on the fourth. We was turned on the fourth. Really? What did you guys do? We was in Richmond. You want that? No, I don't smoke.

Okay. So you were just contact how the guy. I was contact guys for it. Got it. I'm so much you let it smoke. Yeah, I'm only even supposed to do that. Oh, shit. I was supposed to be on my team.

I'm a little shit. My nigga gravy. I think you said, I ain't go lie, bro. I think said, fuck this nigga, bird. Put the little AC shit off. I ain't gonna lie it with some good shit, though, because it wasn't too many. He put him in his mode, though,

because I peeped when the music cut on, you start sliding. Brother damn, they're just like, pushed the whole way. We're gliding. Y'all was sliding or slicing? We're slicing for sure. Okay.

What's the difference? Slicing is like real smooth. It's like more player. Like sliding is like you want some other mainy shit. Oh, slice. Slison is like, you know, are you ever seen a hot knife cup butter? It's just so smooth.

Slicing. That is a good thing. odd for sure um okay wait so let's go into the the early days and everything can we talk about just you growing up in san francisco and what what your upbringing was like and everything uh man i feel like it was a dynamic to it because like i didn't necessarily just grow up specifically in san francisco like i grew up all over the bay area like all over the bay area except like valetio and richmond i moved like to the east bay as i was getting older so started off in san francisco i like eight why your family move around so much because it was just hellomania

shit going on within my family. Like, you know, I got a lot of older male cousins. Right, because you're the youngest of the family. I'm the youngest out of the family. So as shit progressed in the streets for people around, you know, my media and around my sisters and my mom and my aunties and shit, they like, we got to get about the projects. Then we moved out the projects when I was like, hey, we moved to Oakland. We moved to the town.

Then that's when it got like kind of simmered down. But then as I got older, then I started getting into Oakland politics, you know, going to Oakland. schools, middle school, and then shit ignited there. I got kicked out of school and had to move to Pittsburgh. Right. And then when I moved to Pittsburgh, it was just like... You got to see what, like, a normal, quiet life was like?

In Pittsburgh, hell yeah. It was cool. It was cool for the most part. I mean, I ain't go lie. The one thing I'm going to get a Pittsburgh, like out of every city in the Bay Area that I ever touched, all the niggas out there can fight. Really? Hell yeah.

It ain't shit else to do. You either playing basketball, play fighting all day, like, or just, you know, or just, you know, just like you walk miles just to get to your nearest park or the nearest store like you got to walk miles like every day like to get to where you need to go if you don't got no car out there you shit it out of luck it's like a real suburban like you know yeah ain't nothing close people in california should take it for granted that shit is like kind of close together in comparison like where i grew up in new hampshire it was like super normal like you drive like an hour to go hang out with your friend yeah that's crazy that's just regular yeah that's that's absurd shit is just far apart

I mean, I'm used to doing that, though, because like I said, I was in Pittsburgh. All my partners is in the city. All my cousins is in the city. So I'm getting on either Bart, getting the ride by my sister. And when I got a little older, boom, wait. Now I'm driving every day to the city. I'm working in the city. So I'm in the city every day.

You think you were just like ascertaining information in all these environments and like figuring out how to move? Because I feel like a lot of times the people that I see who are the most closed off and like unaware of the possibility. these that life has are the people who just been on the same block their whole life. And a lot of times the people that I see being successful are the people who for one reason or another ended up moving around and seeing a lot of shit as a young kid. Yeah. What it is is like I took game from every part of the bay because like I'm going to tell you like with Pittsburgh, they got their own culture.

Oakland, of course, got their own culture. And San Francisco, of course, has a real strong indie culture. Like we real like diverse in the city. And Oakland is a lot of like black. culture like when i was growing up 2008 9 like my community like i grew up in ghost town 31st in market 896 right the corner house right there it wasn't like hella diverse like it wasn't gentrified like it was straight black like we'd be on a corner 50 deep and i'd be running around on my skateboard i'm talking about 50 niggas outside right there on a lot and like for blocks to come though

like 31st, 30 second. Then if you track back 2-9, two-fold, two-scent, like, it's all black. So, like, the whole community was black. So moving from San Francisco coming here, it was like, oh, shit, like, this is different. And then going to Pittsburgh, it was like even, you know, even more of a dynamic.

So he split up, that's why. But was, like, so your whole community is black, but was it united or was a lot of bullshit going on? People having issues with each other. Hell, nah. That shit was block-to-block issues. Like, it was, cracking. Like it was cracking.

So you had to figure out how to navigate all that as a young dude. Because I lived on a corner house like and my black was like a dope black. Like it was booming. Like it was booming on 31st. Like any, any nigga from ghost town, I tell you, 31st in the early 2000s used to crack. Like it was like a real dope block.

The dope house was right there in the middle. So it used to be booming. So like I used to see all type of traffic. Like real knocks like all that. Real OG. though like you know I used to see niggas pull up in real big S550 banzas and stop right at that house

or come right to that corner where all the niggas was and buy their shit and keep it pushing so like it was a different dynamic because you know Oakland is really like the crack hub like you know I mean LA took it over eventually but like Oakland's were kicked off as so so you were more drawn to like the hustle than just the gang shit necessarily

keep it solid like no I wouldn't even draw on none of that shit like I was more drawn in the gun Like I had an infatuation with guns when I was little. Man, he was snatching phones, dear. Nah, I remember that. When I was snatching phones down to him. You got to keep a lick when you snout in phones. Axi, when we buy our first gun was in what?

Six grade. Thank you. So I had an infatuation with guns. Like, everything about me was like guns. When do you realize you needed a gun? Oh, that's deep. I bet. There's always a story.

I ain't going to lie. I'm going to tell y'all, this is some shit like me opening up, like on some real shit, right? when I first realized like I needed a gun is like when me and my pops we got into an argument and my pops like he a real gangster like he ain't no square ass nigga like

my dad like he really one of them ones you feel me especially from his gym like the older gym my dad is like from the like 60s and shit like he's like he's a old nigga like so we got into a real arguing and he uh he like I challenged him

I challenged him to a degree you feel me I was like hella young I challenged him to a degree. Your dad. Yeah, like, I beat your ass type of shit. And he poured a gun on me. Feele of me, he pulled a gun and pointed it right at my chest.

Like, he cocked it back and pointed it right at my chest. Like, nigga don't ever challenge me. I'll kill your ass. Whoa. And I'm like, got you. Was that you realizing that your dad carried a gun? No, no, no, no, no, no. I played with all that any guns.

Like, it was never sheltered from me. Like, he used to keep his guns right there. Really? Yeah. But that, you know what that did, though? That determined. me away from being like stupidly curious. Like I was like on some shit like I know what that is.

I know what it do. I know how it worked. There's no pun of me sneaking and do it. But he showed you how it worked. Would he take you the shooting range? Nah, right there in the room. Like look, nigg got to use the guns in the house.

If anything ever happened and I'm not here, access this. Go get it. At what age? Shit, probably like 9, 10. Yeah. It's real out there.

I seen my first gun, though, when I was growing up in the projects, though, my older brother had when I was probably like I want to say like five six yeah I remember exactly what type of gun it was it was three of them I remember I used to sneak and play with him all the time play like were you being like in retrospect are you being safe with it and shit nah I was a kid I was doing hell of stupid shit so as he coming to room I hurry up and throw it right back down like oh shit you didn't see me damn and so you're just feeling like I'm on some shit that all the kids at school do not know about yet yeah yeah hell yeah Got me a strap. But seeing all them, like, selling drugs on your blocking shit, then that make you, like, just want to make some money in general, feel motivated to figure out how all that worked?

I'm going to keep it solid. I didn't really, I wasn't really too much. Like, I didn't care about money like that. I'm going to be honest with you. I start doing shit for money, like, as I got older, but it was never, like, selling drugs because, like, you know, like, I grew up in a family to where, like, my dad was on drugs bad. My mom never fucking around.

My mom, she straight, clean. real true wife like she never played with no drugs play with nothing like that like she'd just drink her a little beer and be chill but my dad was on drugs so like i had like a strict like rule like i don't with drugs i never sell it to my people i never sell it to nobody like i just kind of backed up off that shit i rather go rob i became a jack boy really that was your first suit yeah that's how i started getting money i start robin the phone thing that's real that was your entry into it what man it's so much Chal don't know about San Francisco, like the culture. Like snatching phones was a real thing.

Like, we had snatched 30 iPhones in one day and they'd go spend $1,500 on a party bus for the night. We were all peace up. So he's no. He was there. We had peace up. We'd spend 15 up. But you got to think we only 13, 14, 15. Like, and we had money.

The niggas, niggie hopping on board. Yep. Going to snatch 30 phones. Go back to Oakland, big-ass party. Yeah. Like, we're gonna go for a rear-in-in-in-in-brug, like, they were, the turn-niggins. Like, they was, niggins.

We were gonna have fun. Like, we were still in the hood. They were leaving out the hood to have fun. It's as simple as, like, I'm sitting there on the train. I'm looking at my phone. I'm on the dog. No, it ain't even, like, with one hand. Like, if you big, like how you is, we're going to two hands.

I need that. See, that's how I was one. Have you gone after a big guy like me? Every near from the city, going to know when I say that two hands, I need that. Okay. Either a work or the tea train. I'm too hand in it. Like strong though.

And my hands probably little as hell and you big as hill. And like for me, like I never ever like snatch female phones. I snatch one girl phone ever in my life and I felt so bad. Because she didn't even make a sound. She was just like, hey. And I'm just like, oh, why I do that? But did any of the drinking, bro? Yeah.

Not much. I'm back up the bottle though. Did the dudes ever fight back and like successfully get their phone back. Nah. Because you got to be. What do you do? You just run for your life.

So listen. So like let's say it's me and sleeves, right? And free Pete, my little cousin, crazy. He taught us this, though. Like he put me on the stanching phones. My younger gym was the ones that put me on to this shit. Because at first I was in Pittsburgh,

hidden houses. That was our thing. We were running in somebody house. We're going to find a little key, befriend the nigga and sliming. You feel me? We were slime in the pee. It was bad.

But in the city of, was like more aggression, like more like brute force, like just get it and go. You just take it. So Pete, like what we would do is I, I see anything on his phone. He had the bus stop. He like this, you know, traffic rush hour in San Francisco is kind of almost similar to LA. Like it's hell of people everywhere.

Everybody's walking. Well, you can like escape in a crowd and a lot of parts of San Francisco pretty a little. Yeah. Allie was our thing. So we played like, it was like six alleys that we play. If it wasn't booming at this alley, it's definitely booming at this. and, you know, all over.

So, like, if he's sitting there on his phone, we snatch it, boom, I two hand I need that I start breaking. But I won't run too fast. I'll run just fast enough for him to think he's going to catch me. As soon as he take off, bro, going to clip both his feet. Clip his ass going to fall face first. Blow. And then I just jog off.

What are you going to do? I just jogging off after that because you didn't scrape your knees, hands, probably to hit your face on the concrete, and then we just all dispersed. What's the best race to rob? for my phone. The best race. It wasn't no race.

It wasn't no race. I'm gonna keep it solid with you. It was. We're not robbing no black people. I'm gonna keep it a thousand. Now, you're not gonna rob. Nobody ever snatched up. I'm gonna keep it on the homies.

You're not because they're gonna see it coming. They own it. I wasn't doing it to my people. I'm gonna keep it a thousand. Every time we even look, they'd be like, oh, them little niggas right there. Let me put my phone in. I swear it was like that.

It was predominantly. like Asian and white people. For sure. It wasn't like Mexicans because that's who had the money. Asians and white people and the city is all split up. We're coming from the projects.

As soon as we live out, it's downtown and shit. When we hit downtown by that ballpark, it's all Asians, white people like, so we just terrorizing. And then like we, no, you laughing,

but we had a spot downtown. See, they all know. Channel 4 was our spot. We had a spot, a block, free pee. We had a block downtown. Now. So it's us and then we surround it by money.

So what I'm saying like Adam, like we will go out every night and snatch 20 phones, come back to the house, count that shit up. All right, I'm going to get $6.50 for this one, $600 for this one, probably $250 for this one. Probably $250 for this one. And we call our little, you know what I'm saying? He's going to come take them all.

Like he buy them all. You just had a guy that's just, this is what he does. Used to be to walk up to a random ego about his phone for me. $200. Right there and it is. Cash you out. But like we come in like the way we come in, pause, no ditty.

When we come with the iPhones, we come in with 15, 20. So he like this, here you go. He'll go 7,000. Go crazy little, bro. And that's how he talked to us. Go crazy little, bro.

It's good. Y'all keep doing your shit. We'll go tuck the 7,000 up at the house. Before we even split it, we'll tuck it up. I'm the oldest, so I always cured the money. We had tucked that shit up, put it all up, and come right back out and go on another run.

Do you ever take an Android? Yep. Hell yeah. the galaxies was going at that time. Galaxy is going at that time. My beach, galaxy is going at that time. Yeah, don't slip past with that. Jim, they first came out.

Galaxy S3, the motherfucker. That's $6. My sister had one. I'm looking. I'm like, oh, I know she got good insurance. I'm ready to slimer. Let me tell you how old. Look, the time he talked about is iPhone 6.

Yep, iPhone 6. No, no, no. It was the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6s. Yeah. The Rose Gold. You get the rose gold, John. Instant 800. iPhone 8 and shit.

Instant 800. That shit was like, that was our hustle. Like, that's what we was doing. Why did you stop doing that? We stopped doing it because Bipping came along. Oh, shit. iPhone. So look, it was like the guide to why San Francisco has the reputation that it has right now.

It's like you guys. You know, and like 10 other dudes. Because you got to understand. That wasn't just us, though. I never knew if San Francisco was looked at like gay and shit. Like, I'm from the hood, bro. you know what I'm saying Like look though

For real You're not here So when I finally Expand my expand My mom sent me To hell of schools out of the hood Like I go like to film over And they're like

You from the city bro You from San Francisco So I'll be like I'll be like the only Like bad kid there And I just be like Damn like it's hell A different part

This is like It's a mission The mission where all the Mexicans is at It's the Chinatown Like it's just like It's hell of different Because coming from the East Coast San Francisco

The first part of California that I ever went to, and I do remember kind of having that conversation, like, yo, we got to be on point because this hell of gay people out here. Yeah, more so you got to be on point because you get your ass ride. Yeah, that's way more real. It's a concern. It's so serious. And we didn't f*** around a ride the Niners player, bro.

Shout out Ricky Pirsaw, bro. I hate that happen to you, bro. But it's the same. Don't be walking around with no roly's. You plan. I guess he had his little watch on or something valuable on his wrist. And he got his ass popped up for that roly. Ain't nobody playing what should we need to have

So he fought back I don't know if he resisted But it sounded like he did and he got shot You feel me And so it's like That's what I'm saying Like in the city Like you don't know where it's coming from

Because niggas is lurking Like LA you know LA They're coming from the hood Going down the mailroads And robin they crazy It's the same way We're from a city that got money For sure

Just don't play crazy with us though We're gonna rock our little jury down here Just please don't play crazy with us Yeah No I mean I remember The first time I went to San Francisco In like 2007 or some shit it was like it just felt so much more lawless

and just criminally minded than any part of New York because in New York cops everywhere. They got undercover detectives everywhere popping out. They're giving you tickets because you're drinking outside the liquor store without the brown bag on it. You can't smoke a blunt out in public without them running up on you. Right. And then I go to San Francisco and all of a sudden BMX dudes that I know

are like selling weed in the park all day. All day. It's time to smoke a blunt. Nobody's tripping. nobody's even thinking about it. There's a cop around. Until they gave the city that budget. Yeah.

Like, I'm gonna keep a solid, like, once Gavin Newsom became, and see, people don't be paying attention to shit like this. Like, I might be in the streets and I might rap and I might, but I'm knowledgeable. Like, I actually focus on what the fuck be going on. Right. As soon as Gavin Newsom became governor, all that shit stopped. That shit.

Oh, like, it's so, just crime in San Francisco, period. That shit, over the way, brother. Oh, oh, my mama, nigga I got drones. So you feel like it's hell of strict now. No, it's not. strict. No, that shit down there really violating. No, that shit down there really violating all rights.

It is because now they got the speed, like, if you guys are speeding, they have the cameras. That don't even matter. They ain't even speeding tickets. I'm a keep it. They're called. Look, soon as you slide past that motherfucker with some stolen plates, they're going to issue a warning to

every SFPD station in that area, if not the entire city, right? And they're going to start dispatching to that area. And when they catch you, they're going to catch you. And then they're going to put the drone on you. They're not going to follow you with no PD car from hell afar. They don't got to do that.

No unmarked vehicles. They're going to set a drone on you. Listen, they're going to set a drone on you. That's about a few thousand feet up and it's just going to trail you the whole time. And then when you hit a corner or something, they're going to box your ass in. Look, but it's not going to be black and white stuff. It's not. We got gang tasks.

State gang tasks. They're pulling up in Hyundai's and shit. Matter of fact, before gang test, we had BipTask. It's big game task, though. Bip Tass is a new big thing. Now they have different Tass units for everything in the scene. But, but, but, bro, bro. Let's keep it silent, though.

Bip Tass was on dick. But gang Tats on big, though. You couldn't wear nothing black. No, no. You couldn't even slide in the city, bro. You know, I was sliding. I was bad. It was following shit.

It was on niggas. Bumper. You go anywhere in the city. You're bumping up. You're going to see the police out of nowhere. A lying. No, no, no, they're not trying. They're flying out the car.

They're going to smoke out of nowhere. So you're saying that like With all that license play technology That the classic move of like stealing a car And then spinning on your ops And then ditching the car That that just is not what it used to be No you can't do that shit no more

Really? Yeah You gotta In order to do anything in San Francisco You gotta be like here Also think about like they have drones I don't think they're doing this yet But like they have drones positioned all over the city

And then you shoot somebody And the closest drone is just there And it follows whoever seems like they're responsible. Soon as the shot spotter go off, they're going to dispatch a drone that muffler. Going to go right to that area. And if eyewitnesses got anything of that car,

like, oh, it was a blue Nissan that drone is going to circle until it finds that blue Nissan. When they find that blue Nissan is going to show you and they're going to blitch your ass. Yeah. Even that phone stealing shit that you were talking about. Or attempted murder. The phone stealing shit, that's long past. Now it's like the bib task.

Yeah. But even that technology that you can just use to be like, hey, this guy's face, put it into the AI. Oh, here's 20 different times that he stole a phone. All of a sudden they put a case on you. you're done. Yeah, no, they're cooking shit out there in the city. But let me tell you, what's so crazy.

And I hate to be like the revolutionary of this shit or like really had figured it out. But they allow all the fentanyl shit, though. They just don't want robberies, gun violence. But drugs? Oh, yeah, they're using the drugs to clean the streets of San Francisco. Look. But you got to understand.

How many? Okay, out of three people, search it up. Out of three people, how many people die of fentanyl overdose every day? I mean, three. It's probably crazy. I don't know. You tell me. More than likely, too.

It's upward to two people every single day that die of fentanyl overdose in San Francisco. Way more than that. So you feel like they're letting fentanyl run rampant because it's killing all of these people. It's killing the homeless population. Really? Wow. See, people don't be thinking a shit like that. People be thinking like, oh, bro, like, bro, look, this is what they do.

They let that shit run rapid through the streets, clean out the homeless population. And guess what? sent all the Hondurians and whoever down there that's selling that shit right back to their country. Wow. I mean, they do be taking them to jail. No, they take them to jail. Bro, I know. I just, we fought cases we be in court listening.

They let them, they let them off get caught with a brick of fentanyl and OR. But I had a gun charge, simple gun possession, right? And did two years on ankle monitor. Think about it. They owe R in any, a brick of fentany. like a whole brick they're telling us a kilo it is

a half a brick of meth nigger two eight balls of cocaine and O R me and Cuzz is sitting there like bro what the like we listen and pay attention that's another thing

it's gonna be paying attention I'm listening and paying attention to everything they're doing in court y'all O'R and everybody and I'm sitting here like bro why do I still have this on my leg for a simple gun possession

yeah I'm in It's wicked. I just like, I'm kind of struggling with the idea that all those people are going to die. Just all the homeless people are going to die. And then at some point, the problem would be better. I feel like it doesn't really work that way because normal people just like get into fentanyl or get into hard drugs and like become these homeless bums on the street. So, yeah, true.

But listen, you got to understand though. Like our generation is not like, it's a druggy generation for sure, but not as bad though. It feels like that. Yeah. Like a lot of the people that has. on that fin-naw shit is older yeah they between 25 and 45

you know what I'm saying and most of them are at the tail end like the 38th 30s you know they at the tail end where they so deep in life you feel what I'm saying they feel like it's no way to come back from that shit or it's just really too late right so they're just going all out with it

I mean your average you're average you're average your average uh you're average Like early 20s person in San Francisco, like what drugs do they do? Probably weed, lean. Okay.

Perks. You know? Okay. At a raw. It's like a lot of the purse now. Niggas is dying from fittin on perks and shit. Yeah. Fake purse.

People dying from fake perks. They've been dying from that, though. Yeah, that shit is. The group is dying from fake perks. So niggas be even scared to kind of take perks. But then like, you feel me? I can't take that. Everybody got their own vice.

So it's like you can't really stop. I'm gonna do what he go. He's gonna do exactly what we want to do when it comes to the drugs. So it's like everybody is either on lean or perks. But you know, I just suggest everybody to be an alcoholic like me

just, just drink, bro. But everybody smokes weed and drinks alcohol. Everybody smoke winning and drink. I know a nigga that just wake up from a fake perk. A few of them, yeah. A couple of them. A lot of them, yeah.

Nah, that's crazy. That's about the time when I figured I would just stop. It's once everybody started dying from 50. Xanz and shit. You was fucking with his ass. Oh, yeah. Did his ex-speaker-knockers died from his end?

I don't know. No, syrup. It was syrup? Damn. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. I take Zins and wake up the next day.

Sv'Ford of God. Little Pete died from Zanz. He posted photos on his Instagram with him with the Zanz crushed up on his tongue. And basically it was like some fan gave him to him. Yeah. He just died right there on the bus. And then Drew Swirled died. No, Perkinset.

He took mad perks when they pulled over his jet. That's crazy. That was perks. That was perks. Well, his home. His management basically Or like somebody, we don't know who was with him Basically had like hella pounds on the private jet

And so the feds like raided the private jet And then he allegedly like took a bunch of the purse that he had So that he wouldn't get caught with him But I mean he might have already just been on a bunch of perks at that time And like you all of a sudden you're stressed out Your heart starts going crazy For sure Yeah I don't know

I don't know damn chills I feel like they're checking our people But I mean Yeah it's a situation no matter how I went down. Shit, if I'm up an M, I ain't tripping, go ahead, give me my little three months. That's why I don't really believe the idea

that he just like scarf down eight perks. Because it's like, if I'm Juice World, they catch me with six perks. You know, the fuck cares. That's nothing. But I'm saying if a niggis is doing it, all of a sudden you just overdose, like, you feel me?

Like, it makes sense. People do that, though. But like, brother, I don't think he was that scared. All right, we ain't even go go to. No, but he used to pop like eight to nine perks at a time. He said that in the interview. This six or this seven. He was a food already.

Right. So when he was on the jet, they said allegedly that he took him and then he ended up having a seizure. And then he passed. Damn, that's fucking. Yeah. And it's like while he's like handcuffed and shit. Right. Well, no jugs. Yeah.

Oh, I fucking. No, no pills. Yeah. What about a patrol. I don't even need no weed. Badole of Patrol. Yeah. No, that's way better.

Um, okay. So like, you finished high school? Hell yeah. I graduated. Uh, shout out to my mom. You know, um, got arrested her soul. She passed away in February. Um.

RP my auntie. Yeah. So. Yeah, I did that shit for her and my four sisters. Like, they was like, bro, you got some other shit going on. Because we was in Oakland, I got in trouble for some crazy shit. And they was just basically like, look, you know, just do your shit. Because at the end of the day, you're a man.

You're the man of the family. At some point in time, your dad getting old is. So you're going to have to step up to the play to a degree and make something happen for everybody. I don't know what you're going to do, but you better figure it out. I'm like, well, the least I can do is start a foundation. I know if I got my high school diploma, I can get a job. I don't know if I could get a job, then I could excel in that job. Excelling that job.

And then one day I could be in positioning that job to be making $100,000 a year. And that was my goal. Get a job. Go crazy in that job, rise through the ranks and just, you know. But then after doing the job shit, it was like, man, I ain't doing it. Wait. How long did you give it? I gave it about five years.

Yep. So I'm like 18 and like 23. Like 18, 17, 18 to 23. Okay. I'm like, this shit, I'm gone. Oh,

yeah, I know, I know dudes who, like, you'll know them during, like, the part of their life

where they're kind of having fun and shit, and then all of a sudden they have a kid, or they have two kids, and then all of a sudden they just get the, like,

50 hour a week job, and it can be crazy just seeing how it sucks the life out of them, having no fun, having to play this character, do some shit that they don't want to do day in, day out.

Like, it's crazy. I know a few people like that. Yeah, I know a few people, like that, that just be like, bro, like, yeah, bro, I make $60 to an hour, $120 double time. But bro, this shit, phony. Like, I'd rather really just be on a beach with $10 in my pocket.

Like, this. I mean, you respect it because that's what you've got to do as a man at a certain point. But it also, like, me as a kid, when I was 13, 14, when I was kind of realizing, like, oh, this is how life works. I was like, yo, I'm going to do anything to avoid that. Yeah. Because I know that shit's going to. suck the life out of me.

That's what I did. I swear the guy. I used to try to get jobs. This nigga was like, brother. I put my money into my music. He's like, all that. Put it all.

Every dollar. Every money I get, I'm just doing my music. It's going to pay off one day. You know what? Even with them a little $100 or $50 $1. United Masters checks,

I ain't go. I'm like, do you keep going. Video. $100. I mean, this is that last hundred I got video, bro.

No clothes. Ligig just. What kind of jobs were you working during that five-year period? Um, little rinky ding jobs the best job I ever worked was the airport like that shit was fun

I'm gonna tell you why it was so fun because I had like real freedom at the airport to a degree like because like I was a lead ramp agent and shit so I had like real freedom I had my own little team with me and all my niggas like I had all my niggas at the airport so it was never born

like Z over there laughing because he no we was thugging at SF we was thugging it wasn't nothing we couldn't do We got access to this whole airport. It's millions of tourists come in and out of here every day. It's money and this. You know, the Migos, they never go away.

Really? We and, now I'm in a bag. How are you monetizing this job? There's a lot of options and things I could kind of imagine. Go to the airport. If you want a foundational job, just something to get you some little pay. You 18, fresh off the press. You need some good money.

You can go to the airport because you're going to go to the airport and you're going to find a little side hustle. It's going to be somebody at the airport that smoke. So you see. Tell them weed on a break. And then he's going to tell her. And then it's just going to trickle down before you know it. You selling weeds at a whole airport at 12 o'clock because that's when everybody lunch break is at the airport.

Same time. Wow. Three different companies at the same time. You got 20 different customers. Like, bro, can I get just get a, hey, real quick. I'm going to go to Lydin and smoke before you know it's, you didn't make $3,000 in one day. So at the same time they were working at the airport and shit, though, you're like thinking, like, I'm going to do something. something else. I'm going to figure out how to get out of this shit.

When I was working at the airport, I was still robbing. So it was like, nigga, what's the next big lick? Because I ain't going to last matter for 20 bands out of bag at the airport. Just my bro, the bag came through the, what's that shit called? The baggage claim. And he caught it in. He called me like, hey, it's, brother. I ain't going to lie's this bag.

That's my hell of weed. It's going down to the bag room. Just had broding him down in the bag room. Check the bags. He was sitting there. So broding him down in the bag. bag room he wasn't scary but he was just a little stupid for me that's my brother back though he's slow this nigga kind of slow this nigga open the bag he touched the money he called me like but i can't

lie some money in the bag it's like 1500 i said all right it's good for sure send a bag do we need that so i switch my flights i'm like bro like hey can i work on this flight because i got this to do and i got to leave early so can i work on this flight instead they like it's good so what i do is i go in the band stack all the bags soon as I fill the bag coming up it's empty I shake it do do I hear the money I'm like uh that ain't 1500 nigger that ain't 1500 niggie that ain't 1500 hold on so I stack all the bags leave that one bag in the front and I pop that motherfucker old man try 20 thousand ooh try 20 bands mm I'm I'm having a panic attack in the pit though like this heart like this I start stuffing that shit all in my draws and shit I'm like we out of here whoa I instantly

ran down to the night bro my stomach hurt bro I shit on myself. Really? Oh, my God. Like a little sharder, like a full ball. I'm like, bro, I think I sit it on myself. I got to go home. He's like, what?

I'm like, yeah, I'm fucking up. And he went home, counted that shit on. I called brother back. I'm a real nigga. Like, I'm real, any of my nays to tell you, like, I'm not no slide the dice ass nigga. Like, I'm going to really break barrel with my brothers. I caught him.

I'm like, nigga, it's not no 15. Honey. He's like, bro, what you mean? Bro, what is like, eight hundred? I'm like, no, nigga is 20,000. He said, what? I said, I'll see you when you get home. Click.

That nigga pulled up, collected his 10, and we've been booming ever since. Wow. I ain't never looked back after that. I'm like, if I could touch 20,000 out of here, I could touch 20,000 everywhere. But you were stressed out about getting caught? Nah. No? Because it was illegal.

Airport, you only could transport $5,000 in cash. I thought it was 10. 10,000. No, it's 10,000 now. Okay. You know, I used to work at the airport. At first, it was five. They moved it to seven, and now it's at 10.

Okay But like anything past 10 Oh, you got 30,000 in your bag We swiping that You got 10,000 in your bag We swiping that for sure You got 2,500 in your bag We swiping that for sure

If I see it, it's gone Mm-hmm Interesting What the fuck Interesting But you were thinking about Rapping all of us time too The old time I was rapping

But I just wanted Dropping music Because like I understood like To come into the game You got to be polished Like you know what I'm saying Like

And I just feel like Me personally At that time I wasn't polished And then I'm hell of shy. Like, people don't know that, though. Like, I really don't like hella attention. I got it, but, like, I don't really too much care for that shit.

I'd really rather be the underning on the under, just chilling in the background. Like, like, rapping ain't necessarily my passion. That's my little cousin passion. Varski. Dream like Varski. He couldn't be here today, but, like, that's his passion. Like, that's the one who got you into rapping? Yeah, for sure.

Like, that really made me be like, hell of serious. And this dude, oh, like, bro, you got to fucking do rapping. Like, bro, I don't get a fucking about this shit. I'm some other shit I'm the reason this nigga even rapping For real said That's what I said To stop

I did stop Everybody getting his head Man, this shit We was a nigga Really in the streets Niggin' But then when we did that one thing You feel me crack for them G's though

I'm like really Rap I'm like I'm like f*** I'm like To this day I tell this nigga Like bro You just gotta focus on rap

But you know It really kept me going though Everybody kept dissing me He's talking shit about me So my name This shit hold on But you weren't even rapping yet, but people were dissing you or you were rapping

like a little bit? I was rapping a little bit, but niggas just kept dissing me. Like I was dropping little shit here and there. Okay. But I didn't have no expectations for it to go up. But you had ops? Hell yeah. Okay. I was in the streets away before I was any music. So people in SF are so beef thirsty that

they're just dissenting anybody. You work at the airport if people were disson. I was working at the airport but I was still on bullshit though. I was. I was just right. No, but that's crazy. But so all right, so you you were getting motivated by that. Like I got to clap back.

Yeah. Hell yeah. Don't say nothing about me. Leave me alone. Actually, I just really want to be left alone. Yeah. Don't say nothing about me.

I won't say nothing about you. We could just keep this shit cordial and squirt away. But like, I mean, I just think like with this shit now, like, it's, it's the eagerness to want to go against, like, the five shit. Because, like, we're so new on the scene to people. But in reality, we've been around. We've just changed names so many times. but we've been around though so what were the other names

the first name that we had was loaf it up that was way back though that was like 2000 like 11 like loaf it up then we had SMD then we had cold case gang

we ain't even did shit to be no cold case game we were just running around riding ripsticks and shit and we just had a hell of stupid ass names and then eventually like we just became five okay damn all right

so you probably know everybody that he's ever beefed with, right? I was just going to ask him, who was the first rapper to dish you? Shit. I ain't going to lie. The first rapper to be honest, though. To diss me, like, directly? It was a few of them.

Who was the main one that caught your attention? The main one that made you respond. The main one that made me respond. Actually, I'm going to keep a solid. I'm going to be so honest with y'all. It wasn't no rapper that actually diss me directly. Like, oh, Riz. Woo.

No, no, no. and I, niggas never diss me directly until, like, way later down the line. But, like, somebody had diss my brother in the song. You feel me? And I let that shit slide, like, uh, all facts, feel me? I heard somebody say my brother name in a song. I'm like, oh, shit, bro, tweaking. And at that time, like, we, it's going up.

Like, it's hell of the shit going on. So when niggas had dropped that, I let that shit ride for, like, five months. Like, I had all facts just in the vote for five months. But you said you wish you dropped it earlier, right? Yeah, I wish I dropped it earlier for show. But then at the same time, I'm happy I did exactly what I did. Because right when that shit started the physical out, I kicked it back up. They're like, what the fuck?

Who is he? What are you coming? I was like, yeah, nang. Was that your first, like, because that's like your biggest song, right? That's my biggest song right now. Was that like the first song to really go crazy or? Hell yeah. Just took shit to another level.

Well, 30 with 30 was like super old. But like that was like one of the first ones where I was just dissing them, like just dishing everybody. I can give a fuck. And all facts was the one that Swam Stories put on to it. Swamp Stories put EBKJBO onto all facts, correct? Sure. And then J-Bo was the first person I think I ever heard say your name because he just said that you were like one of his favorite rappers when I first said.

That's my boy. That's my boy right there. No, yeah, he was putting on. So, I mean, I was watching Swamp Stories break down like why that relationship fell apart. And he basically just said it's part of the, it's more like the overall politics with. the bigger categories of who gets along with who and the J-Bo and you at a certain point just weren't supposed to be in along and it just turned into that or is it more specific incidents?

Nah, it was more so on some shit like for one like to me, bro, I could never respect no nigga like that. Like he's not no leader to me. Like you feel me? He a follower to me. Because like it was a situation to where like a lot of shit could have been avoided. That whole situation could have been avoided. That shit ain't have to even rock like that.

Like, I really didn't have no problem with nobody over there. Like, I don't give a fool who associate with who. You feel what I'm saying? Everybody is in this shit to make money. I've grown to a point to where I'm much short enough in my mind to understand that hop niggas go associate with niggas I'm cool with and all the way around the board when it comes to get some money. Because at the end of the day, everybody got a family to feed.

Because I heard you said that in the other interview where you were basically like, I don't give a fuck. I'm not dealing with that shit. And honestly, that's like one of the first, like, street rappers. I really heard say that. Like, everybody just kind of takes it for granted that you just have to pick a side and everything. And nobody's surprised when Drake says he doesn't want to do a song with young boy because he f***ed with Dirk. You know, it's like, yeah, bro.

But the thing about it is, niggas always say they got to pick a side. But niggas don't even do that shit in their own wars. Like, in their own beef, pick sides. They just be on some shit, bro. But I got a cousin over there and a brother. Like, brannies don't be on that. So the way I be looking at it is like if you are out of town, nigga, just stay in your place.

You don't got no place in what we got going on. Stay over there. It's, I'm content what you doing what you do, long as you never cross game. Niggas know how they could cross game. Don't have me pulling up when you got this nigga pulling up. Don't have me rocking around when he rocking around or don't be doing no shit over here with him, dissing my dead niggas and then doing some shit.

Like you feel what I'm saying? Just don't do no weird shit. Just stay in your lane. Like you feel me? the way niggas could have took that is like all right bro like woo fool fuck a woo you feel me that's what it's gonna be and what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna continue to fuck with y'all i fuck with y'all like you you get what i'm saying on cordial shit because i'm from an hour away i don't even really know what's going on so i'm gonna stay out of it and see how this shit play out you get what i'm saying

no definitely nah that makes sense niggas just jumped in full flags but it was more it's like hell of funny shit they made it some internet shit That's what making some police shit And then that's the whole thing about it Niggas brag up or say something about us Going to the net I ain't never went to the net I might have went to a song

But niggas was dissing me And just didn't know I heard all the unreleased That's it So I just clap first How are you hearing the unreleased? Because Damn I think I might have rank on the internet

But I got rank in the streets So you could say whatever you won't But somebody is going to send it to me At some point in time I'm going to hear it I heard all these niggas Diss songs before they job All of them

They like really. bro look at this unreleased pages this page that page fake pages little bitches everybody sending it to me like bro you heard this he just sent this to wooty wooed and it's just like all right hold on let me go ahead and go

doctor some shit up real quick flush him out he can't f*** with me stupid but I mean what has it been like for you to see J-bo like gather such a crazy amount of momentum his career doing so good and then just doing a lot of crash out shit that has basically all that up.

He don't got the proper niggas around him. He don't got no guidance. Like, it's like you got, it's like a, you a kid with money, and then you got a whole bunch of kids around you. Like, this is why I don't respect. Where is the older niggas from Nightingale telling him to be cool?

Like, bro, chill out. Like, you feel me? And I'm not saying that he necessarily could be dictated by that. But it's like, is there no interference and saving face? Like, you're not going to try to save the face of your section?

Like, you're not going to tell him, my little, brother, come rock with us like you feel me we on some player shit right we on some cool shit this is how I know all that shit that niggas be doing be a fallacy you feel me right because there's been a lot of times in my life like I'm thinking back to like a little pump just because I was talking to him earlier and like when he was at the height of his shit bro his management team was just around all the time and you could tell that their job was basically to make sure that he did not get into any of the shit that he would have got into otherwise in terms of

you know, crazy party shit going on with girls or kind of like limited in the drugs or definitely not letting him ride around with pipes making sure that there's security and shit. Yeah. I mean, like, every single time that J-Bow gets caught, like, driving around with lean and guns and shit, you're just like, damn. Like, there should have been somebody to make sure that that didn't happen, right? But it's like, you feel me? You're not going to get that.

Like, I don't know. Me personally, like, where I'm older, like, you feel me? Like, I got a different mindset. that like we got families to feed. And the way I look at this shit is people might think I look at it as like just some San Francisco shit or like, you know, just my city versus everybody like, nah, I don't look at it like Northern California. Like, nigger, it's about time that we get on the map. It's about time that we do something dynamic aside from Mac Dre, E40, too short, and this. Like, it's about time we step out of the hyphy area and make our own.

Like, what the fuck does our generation have? Nothing. Literally. LA got their own scene. They got everything they, you feel me? They got the 304 scene. They got the, you know what I'm talking about, Adam. They got multiple different scenes where they could hit, like, they're doing hell of shows.

Like, you know, they coming up to their bay doing shows and bringing us out. No, what the f*** we should be doing shows and bringing them up from down south, bringing them out. What do you think is the biggest thing that holds Northern California from kind of having that bigger reach? But for the record, like, L.A. feels the same way. Like we all feel like LA music is so dope, but then nobody listens to it outside of LA, even though there's obvious examples like somebody like Kendrick that goes way outside LA, you know? Yeah, I think what California period is just crabs in a bucket. But then it's also geographical location. You got to think, bro, down south, Louisiana and Texas is like three, four hours away.

You get what I'm saying? Like, all that shit is like right there. You know what I'm saying? My aunt, all that shit is like within an eight-hour drive, as opposed. to hear like going across the whole California like top the bottom how many hours is that right you know what I'm saying so how many cities are you going to touch like we got like

Seattle and like Oregon and Tacoma Washington and like you know we got like the northern cities and shit but like in Vegas and Reno but like bro they got major cities like down there that's all right there New Orleans

Ben Rouge tech like Houston Dallas all that shit is right there it's not far so it's not hard to you know what I'm saying network it's not it's down south and then another thing with them they about

their people down there you see how Atlanta is like this no yeah you're you're in Houston and you're just hearing big X the plug and soft waka and all this Texas shit you're hearing mad shit that you never heard before unless it's 50

unless it's 50 Bay Area in the building at that time you're not going to hear no Bay Area music in Texas I know I was down there You're not going to hear no shit like that. They're going to look at the DJ like, hey, bro, like turn that shit off. That's just like what it's turning into where shit is just hella regional sound-wise. But then there's like few artists who are able to break through.

But it's like if you go to Detroit, they're listening to Detroit rappers for the most part. I was just in New York. They're listening to a bunch of New York boom bap shit. That sounds crazy to me coming from L.A. You know, it's just like it's wild how regional shit is, even though like we all have access to so much. information on the internet. It's so easy for me to listen to music from somebody from Texas. And I do

for sure. I dabble in it, but it feels like the average person is really able to just focus on like their city. Their city? Yeah. But, you know, stream and kind of f*** that up too. Yeah. Streaming kind of made that a thing where it's like like, bro, if you just stream, you ain't got to do shit else. You ain't got to

travel. What the fuck I got to get California for when I just did 10 million streams in California? What do I have to go to New York for and promote my music? Like, it was different back in the day. Like you know what I'm saying? Like they actually have to travel and sell CDs and do shit like that and actually promote their music in different, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. In different states to really catch traction to where I go, I do a CD tour and I'm just selling my album in seven different cities. I'm pulling up to this store, that CD store, that CD store, that CD store, and just dishing out albums. But are you trying to make pop records that could go super far or are you just more trying to make the best version of what you do and just hoping that at some point that shit just resonates with a bigger audience.

Nah, I'm going to be honest. Like, I'm open to all the music. Like, I do whatever. But, like, you know, it got to be like, for me, I really want Northern California to win. So I'm going to stick to our sound. I'm not going to drift off. Like, nah, I'm going to be rebellious. And I'm going to stick to our sound.

And when it catch, it's going to catch. At some point in time, it's going to catch. It might not be this generation. It might not be the next. It might be the one after that. But at some point in time, California, period, it's going to just catch traction. It's going to catch fire.

Like, L.A., New York did. Chicago did. Texas is doing right now. It's going to catch traction. And when it do, I just want to be remembered as one of the pioneers. Like, hey, a man, nigger is. He was one of the ones. Like, he, you know, set the tone for this shit.

Right. We're sampling his shit now and going crazy in New York right now. Right. Shit like that. It feels like you believe. that you're like meant for like extremely great things in terms of music. But you're still like pretty early in the journey. Like what's your vision of that?

Like do you feel like you're comfortable taking your time, building your career or are you more like in a hurry to get where you feel like you're going? No, I'm trying to step, step, step. I'm trying to go in here and get it cracking. Like not for like I said, not for only me, but like for Northern California, Southern California. Like I'm ready to just get to work. You know what I'm saying?

make the West Coast great again. Like, you know, the West Coast was fire. But, you know, they didn't really, like, go, like, global until, like, the East West shit. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like one common enemy of unite everybody, but then at the same time, I want to be beefing and at war.

Like, our generations is different. When we at war, we really at war, like, should be happening for real. So, like, I don't even want that. Like, I just more so want everybody to win and eat. I want everybody to hear our music. And I feel like we just need to go ahead and say, metodynamic with each other to where we networking with each other and doing this shit on business you know what I'm saying politics always going to be involved but like but northern

california more divided than ever right it's like northern california honestly like it's super divided like it doesn't seem hospitable to like the music scene because it's like you want to do a meeting agree you want to do a show whatever it's like all these concerns make a lot of people maybe not want to do those things. It might get shut up, but like me personally, like, you guys,

my homies, like, I'm the one that drop my nuts. Like, I don't get, we're gonna do this, me and greet for show. But me for anything, I'm doing it.

And it's just going to have to be whatever it's going to be. Right. Because at the end of the day, bro, we all got to win. Like, I'm,

like, I want to see everybody win. Even my ops. Like, I want to see everybody go crazy, even if it's not just me. Because at some point in time, when we,

45, 50, like, nigga that shit gonna be, oh, it's gonna be like, brother,

I ain't even, yeah, bro, that shit was like 30 years ago we was, bro, I got 10 kids now.

What fuck is you talking about? Do you think if your op blows up musically that that's overall still a net

positive for your career? Hell yeah. You want to know why? You want to know why? Why? Because I'm gonna keep making good music and he's gonna keep

having a rap about me because I'm going to be on his ass. Joe. Like King Vaughn made FBG duck way bigger. Hell yeah.

Of course. Of course. But then... Prior to him being killed, obviously. FBG Duck was in a back scene making fire-ass music. I know I slapped FBG Duck a lot. Yeah.

I slapped both sides a lot. So I watched, you know, the BDs go crazy and really get through the dough. And then I watched the GD just kind of hang around and swinging the balance while they was really up there. You get what I'm saying? And I'm like, oh, shit. One day this shit going to catch traction.

And boom, FBG Duck came in and they caught traction. Make that slide over. Hit. Day in the dough. no facts facts um shit we got into it there um damn okay so okay

how old were you during COVID because you you apparently ran it up a lot 22 during that era okay I was 22 so you were just like working a job and shit and then you also was that the first like scamming type shit you got into uh hell nah before that what I was I was doing some other little little crazy little shit

around, bro, like, with like Safeway and shit. It was just some small shit. Honey here, two, three hundred there. Okay. But, like, EDD was crazy, though, for everybody. Everybody had money during EDD. That shit was epic. Right.

So how did that actually work, though? You're just like, I mean, I don't know how much you would be able to go into it or if you would be worried about anything coming back from that. Hell not, because I ain't really do nothing. Okay. I didn't do shit. I was just collecting money. I mean, you said you had half a million at one point.

Hell yeah, for sure. I have some chicken, for sure. Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of time. Boom. Do you blew half a million? I blew that stupid-ass shit. What? How do you do that?

Chains, cars, clothes. Okay. Guns. Stupid shit. Shit that I don't even got no more. Really? Hell yeah. That's impressive, honestly.

I was born through that shit. Like, bro, I was buying something new every day. Like a new pair of underwear, new, some new shirts, new shoes, new every day. That shit was ridiculous. That was crazy. Okay. You said you feel like you're blackballed. Hell yeah.

What is, what caused that? No, I just feel like in Northern California, like the Bay Area specifically, I feel like people be like scared to fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? Because there's so much controversy

that's around my name. But in reality, like ain't nobody gonna do shit if you fuck with me. Nobody's, niggas gonna do some little internet shit, but ain't nobody gonna really do nothing. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's what's also holding this shit back because it's like, like, I'm a dope artist in my opinion.

Like, and I feel like I could add a lot to like other artists like musically. Like I feel like we got bounce off each other. But everybody be so stuck in the politics and the street shit to where they don't want to network or they be scared to network. So you think in the industry, Jay Bose is viewed as the good guy. So therefore anybody he beats with his view as like the bad guy. He's just a TikTok superstar. Uh-huh. He a TikTok star.

Right. You feel me? Like I'm not really like his street credibility. I don't really know about all that. Like, that shit don't, I don't even really too much care. But, I mean, it's like the dynamic where we all look at, like, Dirk and, and Vonn and Chief Keefe or whatever as, like,

they're the most successful ones, so they get to kind of play the hero role. And then everybody looks at the GDs from Chicago. Like, they're the, the evil ones because all the best artists are beefing with them. I'm going to keep a salad. J-Ball ain't blackball me. I don't think he can at this point. Like, that shit, oh, it can't blackball me, bro.

But there's hell of other politics. It's not that. It's more so, like, in my region, though, like in my region, like, man, bro, that shit crazy. Like, I didn't got black bought a lot. I didn't have, I didn't have real promoters, engineers, beatmakers, like, all that shit, then tell me, like, yeah, bro, if I f*** with you, bro, we're going to get mad. And I'm like, what the fuck they going to do? It's almost on some shit to wear an order for.

To work with me, I got it down to pull them under my protection. Like, me and my niggas got you, like, you good. You could work with me. Even a cameraman's pilot. Camerman. Can't even shoe with. camera men's because they be well that's only in northern California though

the ones down south don't do that's what I'm saying we only put with like one or two camera men and the rest be on with weird shit but devil's not blackballing now he can't he he doesn't matter he doesn't matter what we're from no he doesn't have no say so but because of who he's affiliated with and who they're affiliated with that's the reason

why you feel black but we them niggas no no no no I'm gonna keep it I'm gonna keep it a band like like I don't feel black ball from them in no way shape or form I feel I feel like the way my before do even came along before it was that like when I made all effects and shit

I wasn't getting booked for shows and shit like that like Dizzler wasn't even fucking me like that like you know like they I'm gonna tell you like this bro like it was platforms that wouldn't post my music because it was too direct but with post they shit I'm like bro this nigga's talking about all my dead niggas like what am I supposed to do

not respond you feel me like you can't like you can't give me the post but you would give it to him and he's talking about all my dead homies But now Dizzler is posting you. No, Dizzler posts me very rare. They still, bro, listen. They're biased.

Dizzler posts me on some shit like, oh, yeah, like, they'll post me on some shit like video versus. What the fuck am I doing a video versus for everybody on this? Like, what am I doing a video versus for in this video at $250,000? For what? I always scroll past that shit. What am I? Exactly.

Yeah, I'm never, they're never going to give me an exclusive post. I never got a birthday post or nothing like that. ever. So do you guys feel like this Fisler birthday post politics is crazy No, they're biased

Be honest Are you guys Not fissor bias? Hell yeah Especially when EBK started to gain their no to ride Dissler

For sure When they was When they were It was through NorCal next up It was through Dom Me and Dom

was shit with That was my boy But now even Dom don't answer the phone Like he's just on his own You know I'll f*** with Don But he don't answer

my calls So it's like, feel me? When I was just calling him before I went on this run, I'm calling him like, hey, bro, I got some shit coming. Like, I got some content for you to post. Post it. It's good content. It ain't even bad.

This is when I was like, okay, I'm going to just take over the summer. Like, I ain't even fin to do no dissing like that. I'm going to just take the summer over. I was trying to give him that, like, you know, that traction and he wasn't answering. He ain't answering DMs, nothing. Hey, one more thing about this, though, they like, they, they,

whoever they can get the most money. out of like I peeped at like for sure if you going crazy if you pop in and going crazy they're going to just post you all day you just going to see them they only going to post three people it's going to be a nigga from Stockton a nigga from a nigga from Sack and a nigga from whatever whatever you can hire some shit

whatever popping at that time. You don't got nobody from San Francisco Oakland Richmond even Valleo or nothing like you just reposting our shit all day that shit don't it wasn't doing anything for it's just my thing what this shit is bro like the disc songs I was told about bro directly like

hey bro like the disc songs we can't post, but like the regular shit we can. So I'm like, okay, let me just lean back and just see how many diss songs y'all post within these next few months. Every time niggas drop, it was a diss song. You feel me? It's just not as direct

as mine. Like, I'm gonna give a name. Like, I'm f***. That's how I feel. See, that's the weird thing. Even in the past, I've thought about doing like ciphers with L.A. artists and shit, and it's weird because it's like, are they all just gonna diss the fuck out of each other's gangs? Like, it would be so tricky putting together

people who could even get along in the first place and then what are you gonna tell them? You're gonna tell them like, yo, no dissing. But then all the subliminal shit, I'm not even gonna catch it. And then meanwhile, like, if they say a name, sure, we'll get it. But like, I don't know. It's just like, it's hard to police that shit.

Shit, I ain't never got invited to it this or so I forever. So it's like, how would you know? You never, I've never gotten invited to a dizzers life when I won. And I own some real shit. In my opinion, I write better than all the niggas on that whole panel. Like, if I really like just, sit down and just like doctor some shit up. I rap better than all of them.

That's my opinion, though. I don't think none of them can fuck with me on no panel they ever had. I'm going to keep it solid. I'm going to keep it solid. That's just me personally. Can't none of them fuck with me, especially going back and forth. Fizzler, we need the response, man.

We need to know. What's going on? We're not beefing with Dizzler. We just telling you all about. I love Dizzler. They did a lot for me early on. I f*** with Dizzler. They posted my shit for free a couple times.

For sure. They did that. But it was like them little post that didn't matter. But they're the reason why the Bay Area is kind of stagnant with a lot of their rappers. Yeah. Why are you feeling that? Because they scared to promote. You know what it is.

It's not. It's not. It's not. Yeah, that too. But nah, bro. It's not because they don't know who to fuck with real.

They would have to do that shit. They would know. No. They know what they quit. No. They know what a fuck with. Bro. The thing I was talking to was black.

They know exactly what the f***. They just afraid to push them. politics. Why I don't know. They feel like it's not marketable. But, bro, that's the new California. That's the new Northern California. It's political now.

The there's Haifi Nation. It's not over with, bro, but that is like the, we are in like the last of a generation with that shit. Like that's, you know, coming to an end, this shit is political now. You feel me? It's controversial now. That's crazy. It's like, it's hard for the scene to even like promote itself once you get to that point where there's so much of that bullshit. going on. It's just like how could you possibly even like the idea of like oh let's do a big no jumper

concert or like 20 top LA artists perform yeah that's gonna be fun. It's gonna be like so many problems with that shit like it's gonna be so difficult and up there same exact shit like it's just yeah and really on some real shit it's not even that difficult though. It's really not that hard like they down here in southern LA they go off like colors and like real gang politics. like shit that's been going on since the 60s in the 70s and shit like shit like shit like shit like 50 60 years ago like there a lot of this shit is new like it's a lot of new clicks new game like all that shit is kind of new like it's old shit still going on from way back but it's it's a lot of new shit and a lot of shit can be solved with a conversation a lot of people just

be too deep into their pride and want to poke their chest out too much to where they can't have a conversation with another man and squash that shit y'all aren't ain't never killed none of us. We ain't never killed none of y'all. Let's shut the fuck them and get this money. They ain't on that. Fee me? Niggas don't know how to communicate. That's all it is. People want ops. People want beef now. Yeah, because that's something to rap about.

They know it's some lore. It just seemed cool. But that shit be like, when you really got to stand on it, you know? When it's really time to stand on it, it's break. Every time, whether it's death or whether it's jail, niggas be like, you know. Bras got so many videos and niggas on the phone. Oh, brus. I like that.

then. Bray. Next day, nigga on Instagram. Man, frizzy. Bray. Come on, all the shit. Nags didn't diss me

after we didn't have full-blown conversations. Like, Brian, even on that. Like, bris, you feel me?

It's good. Like, bro, I feel me? When we get up with bro, we just gonna get up with bro, but y'all out of it. Like,

we're cool. Like, it's good. And then dis me. Or dised my whole set. And I'm like, what the f***? What was that for? Like,

it'd be weird. So, you know, I mean, I can't call it right now, but I think with Northern California direction we're going in, I think if we just stick together, like, one time. It's just a year of hardcore working and biting down. We take a lot of shit over.

Yeah, I heard you saying that, but like, that's your big goal is to unite the Bay Area. And I was just like, damn, that's actually, it's kind of like a lofty goal for a young person. Most of young people don't really have that kind of vision. Shit, I might die doing it, but it's like, shit, if that's my legacy, that's what it is. You feel we all got to go one day. It's the only thing we promise after birth. So it's like, shit. Like, you know, as a man, like, you know, your legacy is important because it's the only

thing people go remember, like, remember you for after you check, like, after you die, like, it's over with what they're going to remember you for. You know what I'm saying? Your legacy. So you got to make a staple in this game. And so that's my staple. That's what I want my staple to be like, you know, Riz really did something with this shit and made it into some.

And now we all having two, three hundred thousand. We got, filmy sold out shows. Bro, a millionaire. This nigga, a millionaire. I just bought a Ferrari. I just, but nigga, Riz was the one that really pushed the heart line for it. You feel me? Respect, no, for real.

Delis, you got, I know you got all the juicy, gossipy drama questions. I want to hear what I got to say. Yeah. Say some, some f***ed up shit. Don't say no f***er shit. I'm drunk. Okay, look, this is what we really want to understand in regards. as to the politics in Northern California.

Yeah. So do you feel like, I just want to ask this question before I get into like the more sinister questions. So. Sinister is crazy. So with swamp stories, so with swamp stories, I feel like he added a lot of momentum to your career.

Hell yeah. Because without swamp stories, I feel like a lot of people wouldn't have been engaged. Now recently, West Coast gang wars would cover you. Yep. And you would be on night and go. You and Sleeks, actually.

Hell yeah. Why are you going on? I think it was Slees, huh? It was you. All right. So look, we're going to shut down. What brought you to Nightingale though? What brought me to Nightingale?

Oh, shit. Like, you know, people just think certain shit is like impossible or like we won't do it. Like, no, like on some street shit. Like, you know, we will. We go anywhere. We travel anywhere. It don't matter. Did you receive any phone calls after that?

Shit. I received hell of phone calls. Did you receive any phone calls from EBK? Man. Don't lie. You're under oath. No jump-to-hers. They tapped in.

They had to tap in. You ain't got no choice. I mean, it's like, you're not going to do that shit in my hood. You're not going to come to the five and do that. Ever. Well, EBK Baby Max went ahead and he did an interview on a live stream. Yeah. And he said that he's not black hugging right now.

And you're not on that. And if he was on that, you'd be on a T-shirt. So he don't feel like you a threat. A dazzle t-shirt. A D shirt is crazy That's what he had ready, Max I don't know, I don't know I'm just, you know

He said if I was on that eye I'd be on a t-shirt All right, look, I'm gonna just put it to you like this I am also not block hugging right now He said he was about to go do that But listen I told niggas that I was Fing to go to the hood and shoot a video I told them, right?

Let me tell you something, right? Let me tell you this. Many have tried, many have failed. You feel me? I didn't got shot. I didn't been stabbed. I was a young nigga. Like, I didn't been through hell of shit.

It's not, it's not nothing. You feel me? I'm still alive. It's a lot of niggas here that can't say that. So you, like, niggas talking about putting niggas on a T-year, bro. You got a lot of nicks. You shouldn't even be worried about me. But if I wasn't a threat, then you wouldn't even say my name in a song in the first place, little bro.

Little bro. You wouldn't say nothing about me. I wouldn't know. What'd you say my name for? I never said shit about baby Max ever. You said you wouldn't know that. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is you said my name.

You made a whole song called Fivertie K. For what? What did you get out of that? You got a few hundred thousand views and you got this right back and now you can't respond because you're not going to come to my living. But his diss was pretty like a decent. It was a decent. That shit was trash. You feel like it was trashed with me?

No. I think turtle has potential. Turtle got potential. but we ain't living off. They can't rap better than Rizita. Wasn't Turtle helping a boy or something like that? You seen that? Oh.

I don't, bro. We're not, come on, bro, we're not even doing that. Like, bro, like,

I don't even take them. Let me stop. I'm saying. We don't take people like in. You can play with as many guns as you want. You can be as gangsties as you won't. We're going to look at you how we look at certain niggas from our city. You're just a zesty gangster.

Like, you're not, you feel me? So, Tudorl is a gangster. A zesty gangster. That nix is a kid, But how do y'all know what type of work turtle them put in if y'all don't really know nothing about

No, I don't really give a fuck about no listen we know because niggas talk and we know people from stocking This is not like we don't know nothing I feel me he's 27 and you think he's worried about it That's 15 16 he's a kid please how are you I'm 24 They don't even understand the art of manipulation yet them niggis still running in a brick walls with the law When they got bans you're supposed to be up doing your thing moving niggas out the way you plan with money and don't even know what to do with it this is why I don't even take them serious

give me $500,000 a lot of people you know, I'll be up right now So do you feel like Do you feel like EBK Baby Max is kind of like taking on the responsibility of dissing you? You know what?

And I'm fucked up that he's doing that because he can't outwrap me. Send Libo because he can't me either. That's why he ain't say nothing. But EBK Lebo just recently dropped a disc track or a music video I'm sorry.

Tear it off greasy. And that shit was trash It was trash Did you hear it? No, but it was trash I already heard it. Listen, let me tell you. Listen, the song that he made with fat ass

I already heard that. That's why I made all facts part three. I made all facts part three in regards to that. Now listen to all facts. Listen to that first and then listen to all facts part three and you understand why I made it. So how do you feel about Terry and EBK Libo becoming like a duo?

They could be, but buddies I don't give a. I never cared. This is my thing. I never care. until niggas came into the city like this. We in Sunday deal, niggily, we thugging.

Feel me? Cool. That's cool. Y'all thugging with your partners. Great, right? But why are you getting on the phone or getting on social media saying you don't fuck with us because you fuck with them? You could have just said,

you could have just said, I f*** with them. And I would have been like, okay, cool. But you and EBKJBO were still in communication. Correct? before the EBK Libon and Terradall Greasy duo bro you and EBK Jebel were a thing in regard. I did my homework. We was

cool, we was solid and it wasn't for no five months it was from 2023 nigga to 2025 we didn't know it was a problem to that in that live that live video when we had that live video and Lebo Reish and was like what's up with Lebo mind you

even me and Juvie like Juvie I don't know how in tune with them nizzi I don't know Jui be doing his own thing But even me and Juvie, like we have Like we got messages like Brother let's go ahead and knock this out He got he had my number I had his number we sent each other open verses

We playing with this music shit This is long before A Libo and Leake You get what I'm saying So y'all building your relationship in jail I'm building my relationship out here Jaybo goes to jail But before he goes to jail

He's doing a whole lot of dick sucking So I'm thinking like we cool I'm like all right we cool Feel me I never text that and he texts me I didn't mention him he mentioned me I didn't even know he existed. I'm gonna keep him to be the band. I didn't even know who the fuck he was until he said my name.

I swear. I never knew who he was. I don't even listen to Northern California rappers. I listen to like young boy and like. I put him on to all that type of shit. He put me on to that shit. I wouldn't listen to them niggas. I don't care about their music.

But it's like, you feel me? When he mentioned me, I'm like, bro, with me, we're going to lock in. I never DMed him, never said that to him. He hit me. Like, bro, we got to tap. We got to lock in. brother tap in and send your number i sent my number now we locked in we talking we chopping it up

and it's even more in depth than that but it's like you feel me bro no he down bad for that like i ain't really tripping it's not a big thing all y'all have to do was say brother we put these niggas over here but we don't got no issues with y'all you feel me and i would have been like cool i respect that y'all chose your side but y'all not intern our politics so if i see y'all out it's like yeah brother we good and keep it pushing You feel me? But them niggas want to be so tough, tough, bad ass, and shoot them up, bang, bang. They didn't jump into some shit.

And I was just like, yeah, you in it. Once you're in Bay Area politics, not Stockton, Bay Area politics, you in it. And she'd actually come from anywhere. This is how nobody's ever going to get along because all these little mini fractures. Because niggas feel like they owe loyalty to niggies. They don't even know. You don't owe me no loyalty. So I wasn't mad.

I was on some shit like, why is you letting your niggas diss us when you was just in my DMs talking about, bro, let's do a feature. You feel me? Let's do this. Let's get this song done. Look, they like this. Don't let Adam read it. Come on, bro. Don't read that loud there.

I don't know. Look. Like shit like that. You feel me? Bro, we're feeling. We're cool. Them essays. Them essays.

Adam. Listen. Look. Now a nigg is blocked. You're blocked. Now the nigga's blocked. Now the muck. Well, look, though, we, listen.

You can still view the DM. That was bigger blocked. Yeah. Listen, though. We cool. We own program with each other. Like, you feel me? We chopping it up.

All you had to do is, you feel what I'm saying? Keep it pushing. I wasn't really tripping off you with them. I didn't care. You could do music with them. Go crazy. Do your thing.

You telling me, oh, brother, nigga, we just did this song. We did shots fire. Feel me? That shit was weak as fuck. But I'm like, all right, come on.

Let's go ahead and push it. He's like, bro, shoot it while I'm down. You're going to go up. Nika, when I touch down, we're going to come new. Feel me? Go ahead and do the song. You know what I'm talking about with pig? Go ahead and shoot the video on double rock.

You're going to pick out. I'm going to have them put love and y'all going to do the video on the rock. I'm like, no. Slee's like, brother, go ahead and knock that shit out. I'm like, no. I want to wait until a nigga come home to see what he really own. Because I already Pete Lebo had been posting gris and doing, you feel what I'm saying? You think you was trying to set you up?

No, I didn't think he was trying to set me up. And I'm going to tell you, I can't really tell you why. But I don't think that was the case. I know that wasn't the case. And little bro was like, oh, bro, that, nigga, you know he's slime. And I'm like, no, nigga, he ain't slime.

And that nigga ain't that slime. Cut it out. Cut it out. I'm a real, I'm BDA. You feel me? Like, I'm B's like, he ain't that slime. That nigga just doing shit.

You feel me? He was just for me first. And then what it really is, he's just not a leader. So he can't really tell his niggas what to do. You get what I'm saying? Like, if me and

please if he with this side and I'm with that side it's like all right brother you with them I'm with them but nigga between me and you we're gonna keep that shit cordial we never gonna cross game with each other we never going cross game with them you feel what I'm saying we're gonna be cordial nigga we five y'all whatever y'all whatever

but this is my brother and I'm his brother and we're both sides we got so much respect you and may niggas be cool to each other I could come over there and fuck them with you and you could come over here and fuck with these niggas with me respect and that's that But with J-bo, you guys push the five.

Yeah. Now, there's a five from their city. Yeah, for sure. You guys are highly affiliated with him. No, I wouldn't even say highly affiliated. But we, but we, what you're talking about? So do you guys feel like maybe J-bo,

maybe somebody was in his ear as if maybe you guys were trying to bag though him, just in regards to your guys' affiliation with who he's at house? We didn't know that. We don't have no affiliation. We didn't even know who was no problem. Reest thought it was cool this whole entire time. I'm a kid.

You guys didn't know that the townhomes are fucking with EB-H. You don't know nobody in Stockton. We knew that shit way later down the line, bro. We never cared. I'm gonna keep it a thousand. Like we was, like I told, bro, like, I'm like, whatever you niggas got going on, we stand out of that shit. You feel what I'm saying?

But if you really on some stepper shit, then, you know, do your shit. But that ain't got nothing to do with us. We're not from Stockton. So why are we entering your politics? Why are we coming in acting like we f***ing when niggas that we don't even know. We don't know how they move.

We ain't ever been to school and these nis. We don't know they first or last. Man, we don't know nothing. Why are we entering to that? And he's like, brother, I respect that, brother. You feel him? You already know that, nina talk.

It sounds like you're doing like a whole-logy. He's like this on the phone. But I ain't go like, brother. I respect that, brother. I fuck with my fives, brother. For sure. Like, feel me? But do y'all just feel like deep down inside?

He probably was like, I don't really know what they own. Like, do you ever feel like that? I ain't even going to say too much. We didn't have real conversations, like them real conversations. He knew exactly what we was on. And the whole thing about it is he just chose that. It's like I said, it wasn't a problem. He knew exactly what our movement was.

Well, Sleez is your right hand, man. How do he feel about this situation? Sleez is like them niggas. I know I. At the end of the day, me and Riz, I'm on whatever my brother on. So you feel me? At the end of the day, I thought it was cool the whole time. I jumped on live

I sent Rears the live video Niggas on live They add me And we're politicking with ugly Nags They ain't even got nothing to do with them We're not even beefing We really actually

We're just chopping it up They come in there And Rears like Oh so Libo Wooo Wooo Yo, we saw my EBK niggas They on some shit We don't

What you knicks What you knits I'm like Oh So from then on So from then on I was on some shit You feel me

I was like really like Caught by surprise for real Because it's like You niggas From an hour A half away So if anything I was

I would assume you guys would probably just with other niggas we don't with it. And keep it cordial with everybody. Like just, we cordial around a board, but that's what it is. You know what it is?

It's niggas don't know how to be the program. You feel me? They are the program, but they don't know how to be the program. They don't know how to say, nah, we don't boss shit. We above all this beef shit. You feel what I'm saying?

They stooped down to some niggas that's broke level. Like, they stoop down to that level. Like, oh, brother, we got to choose a side and we got a beef with y'all. And in reality, You niggas was, y'all hotter than me and him combined. Y'all supposed to be on some shit like, look, brother, we're going to try to make this shit one.

We're going to try to build Northern California back up. Y'all don't got to be cool, but I'm going to do a feature with you. I'm going to do a feature with you. I'm going to do a feature with them over there. And we're going to go crazy and make this shit one again. But they don't have that mindset. They just so happen to run across fame. And that's why it's like, this shit is the way it is.

Because do TikTok, like just NorCal period. any that run across fame can have it. It's just open season. So that's why I'm on some shit like, go ahead, let me take this over, bro, so we can make this shit great again, please. Just let me have it. Just give it to me, bro, because it's like,

these niggins is stupid. So you were hyped when he got arrested? Hell now, I was sick. I ain't going to lie, I'm going to keep her to ban. When he got arrested, I was sick. Because you got to think his whole last bit, we was chopping it up when he turned himself in. Oh, so you didn't even know until, okay, right, right.

Come on. He got arrested. I'm like, this is a slap. What are you doing? And what is your niggas around you doing? What are y'all doing? Like, bro, you're supposed to be locked in,

getting to it going crazy. This is supposed to be a thing. This shit's not even fun no more. You're in jail. Who's going to be the FYBJ Maine of Northern California come through and push peace? Sleeve? You're going to do it?

Yeah, FYB Sleeves. You don't seem ready for it. Yeah. People really don't know me. I really don't. It's the Woop, man. Hold on. Let me see if I put my phone.

I push peace. Look y'all got my fault. Yeah. I push peace. I already, me and Rears is just talking about, like, you're about to go pass off food to the homeless where we're out here. For sure. You're all going to go to skate row.

It's easy to be on good terms with the bums. Yeah, they're cool. It's different with your options. We don't got no ops. We really don't. We're the most-headed niggas. I don't even take these niggas serious. Exactly, bro.

Look, you got niggas beefing from an hour and a half away. For what? Over nothing, though. But look, though, Adam. Why would everybody not like us? Because we're a threat. Musically, talent-wise. We having fun with this shit.

Adam, talent-wise. Talent-wise. No, the music is really, really good. I agree. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. No, it's definitely really good. Which is kind of why it's crazy that he just, like, accidentally gave you this big-ass

co-sign and then became your op. But you're saying that it was his choice. So now, so now the hype on the streets was, oh, brother, slime. Like, he'd be trying to back old. Like, he'd be trying to back the old niggas. Like, okay. So from your opinion, like, you gave it. a big ass co-sign on.

That was your first no jumper interview. And it's not like he said 10 names. He said the only artist that I listened to from out there. His dream life, Rizzi. That's a kind of extraordinary coside. Even though he wasn't really that big at that point, that was pretty early for him too. That was early.

Yeah. But even when he caught traction, oh my God. You want me to show you how many live videos? I mean, people go back to the old interviews. No, we go back to all the lives. And all, he was just, he was playing my, bro. He was playing the song.

that we made on live rapping it. The only reason I don't be on no petty shit posting clips and niggas dick sucking is because I'm just like, feel me? I don't really care. Me, in my heart, like, in my persona, like, I just feel like I'm that nigga anyway.

So, like, you doing that don't surprise me. It just be like, yeah. Oh, you, okay, you fucking me. Cool. You're not, you're just one of many. Like, that's how I feel. Yeah, I mean, he, regardless of how you guys feel about each other, like he is a serious rapper. Like, he takes rap and,

seriously. He gets it. He's paying attention. He understands structurally, like, how to make a good song and shit. And when I first started listening to your shit, I'm like, ah, okay, I totally get why he would be a fan of this. Yeah, like, he, nah, he's smart. He's not stupid. He put out a lot of content. He's smart the way he's structured his shit.

Oh, what? Why all they got Steve Judge? Frisco, three-by freezing. Where, you're a show? That has me to. Three-body, buddy, four. That's that shit. Run it back.

He running back. Hold on, man. Man, show Jalise. Man, let her play. Look, Adam. Yeah, I've been off that. Oh, that's the clip. The interview clip.

That nigga said, besides me, I've been off that. Besides you and your man. That's crazy. I don't know. That's crazy. That's crazy. But what's shit, though? What made me so mad, though,

is niggas act like I'm living off that shit, like his co-sign. Like, no, I never gave a fuck. He was early on the Soli wave. I never gave him due to mathematics. When he did that, when he gave me that cosine, I was already at 400,000.

I was already cosigned my myself. I ain't, you know, cosign from nobody. I didn't care. I was just like, okay, little artist for the, he going crazy for show. At this time, Sloby was still alive. Me and Sloby got to say. Sloby passed away.

At that interview, Sloby, we had already passed. He had already passed away. Yeah, he passed away. I fuck with Slobie was me and got the same birthday. Joel second. Because I remember J-Boh giving me a disappointed look when I didn't realize that the cross on his face was because of Sloby.

Yeah. Because I was being a fake fan. That was like before I actually started listening to him a lot. And that's the fuck. It's not a fake fan. It's like with him. I didn't hear about him until April. Yeah.

I think April and May, Swamp stories. You're a sleuth. This is your beat. Swamp he has a lot of the shit. I know. Swamp he had a funny. But they said they were the real EBK. And I was like, who are these?

But he is, though. We beef with every city in the Bay Area. It's not one city that we don't beef with the Bay Area. We'd be with somebody from every city in the area. Allegedly, though, like, we just be on bullshit. So it'd be like, yeah, who really is the real EBK? You'd beef with every set from your city. Cool.

It would be, like, supposedly we'd be for every city in the Bay Area. Supposedly. Outside the Bay now. Outside the... What? Niggie. Damn. We are Funkwood in Sacramento.

I'm not saying that we... I'm saying allegedly... Me? He said he wanted to be your ghostwriter for your Mazzie desk. I know I need that, though. Hell not. Was you serious? You're not going to help me this, Mazzie?

Hot. But look, though. Mazzie was just with EBK Pig, though. I thought it was good. Mazzie. Yeah, for sure. Really? He was just with E.B.K. Pig.

Don't know. Pig was out. That's interesting. Yeah. And nothing happened. You know, they were, they were a pathetic. Mazzie, though. I'm gonna tell you, look, we was never supposed to follow over 10%.

Yeah. Who exposed that, though? That was a banger, though. I ain't going to lie. I'm the reason why he dropped that song. That's a hit. Wait, what? I'm gonna be sad.

We were never supposed to fall out over 10%. What's that mean? You never heard that song? But what, what's that mean exactly? No, I just, I took that from the Mazzis song. Oh, okay. He's going to go on with you and over 10%. That's what I tell my brother.

We was never supposed to follow over 10%. Okay. We'd be fighting all the time. We ain't gonna never fall out though. We're gonna never fall out, but we'd be fighting for show. Right. We get it up. We just had a maniac's argument.

Yeah, about what? Hell yeah. Because I'd be able to keep this thing on point. Yeah, Robbie Bushin. So he's more serious. business-wise and you're just I'm not going to say more serious business-wise I'm going to say like he the one that keep me from doing the crash shit that I used to be on I used to be a crash okay but I just never like no it's a fine line because your fans kind of want to

see you crash out the time of time right yeah yeah but I understand what's going on what's going on what's going to get on my brother yeah yeah so you got to think I'm gonna get on the phone all day yeah niggas got on ankle he's going and I'm just like brother you feel me just focus on the rap because at the end yeah so it says it's the best revenge so It is. Everybody else that brought his name with and never been right here. Hold on no.

And good credit to the block, man. Success is the best for the game. Successes. Yeah. Shout out horrible road, man. Shout out of the block, man. Two Bs, double Bs. That's a big block.

Button boys. That way. Button land. But you know that, like the Bs, the Foxx, all that shit. Yeah, that's just a movement. Like we have a movement. Shout out my nigga, Monty B.

For sure. We'll start making Button land merch. Yeah. Yeah, Monty B, that's, that's big budd. That's my nigga from the town, man. My nigga Monty's, man. That's the real button, boy. All that fucking money.

T9, J-O. Oh, they hate that. They hate that. Damn. Them the homies, though. We'd be thugging with them for show. So why are you guys beefing with Samoans? That's a bold shit.

Oh, my God. We're not beefing with Samoans. I've never heard of that. Look, Adam, we break it down to you. In San Francisco, we got projects. We used to live right next door to Samoans. It's not no beef with Samoans, bro. It's just Samoans and black people are,

separate it. I mean, Swamp story is making it like you and the tear it off, people are at war. Yeah. I'm gonna keep it solid. I'm gonna keep it solid. The niggins at war with they sell. They ain't at war with us. Sure.

Should we down here, they up there? I don't know what's going on. At war with they sell. So you feel me? We just be making music. We just trying to lock in and make this music. But when it comes to them, like, you know, I'm on some real shit, bro. We just, it's a segregation thing to a degree.

You get what I'm saying? because what a lot of people don't know is like when they war war, that shit was taking place in like the 80s and shit. And like the fuge that we did have, which was very small, like the fuge that we did have was kind of like, you feel me? Yeah, this shit might be more of a race thing than it is like a gang thing. You get what I'm saying? It's more of a race thing, in my opinion, especially now.

So Adam sets up a no jumper cipher. I'm just going to hold up for like Northern California. Right. say if Adam sets up a no jumper cipher for everybody can come for him. Tear it off can come down here. Yeah. It's good.

No, but we're not going to coexist in the same room, though, because it'd be serious like that. But we're not going to coexist in the same room because, like, you know, we might have words and words could turn into the slaps and then slaps could turn in the hugs, but we're even trying to do all that shit. We own some shit like, we'd rather not even take it there.

We own some shit like just when they go, we come, when they come, we go. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to pull up a little brazy. Out of respect. Broise is going to make sure nothing happens. Man, a little brazy be getting pushed up on. You're talking about threes?

A little white bear. That was back in the desk. Pull little threes up, for show. Out of respect for threes. We ain't going to do nothing. Out of respect for threes. Adam, that's Joe. I don't respect for Adam, Jalise.

That's J-Bose. And the no jumper team. We're going to keep this shit real cordial. And we're going to get this money. Because it's like this, bro. Everybody getting money except us. So you're trying to do a song with Lo Brazi to get the money? Yeah.

Oh, all right. Yeah. Me and Brazy do a song. That's going to fight. Man, Rears and turn a little crazy. I turn it down fans and all that. I ain't going to turn it. That's all right.

Hell not. You got to fight. You got to do some? You think a little Brazy would take a charge for you? Take a charge for me? Yeah. She ain't got any no choice. I'm a felon now.

Shit. Little little, bro. Brazy, hold this. Look, you're going to go to the halls for a month. I'll see you in 30 days. Good. Good. I got you, I got you, I don't even trip.

You're going to have a program. He's going to lose all that. way he gonna get. I just keep thinking about how there's going to be like an 18-year-old version of him one day, and it's going to be a totally different thing. Yeah, he's going to turn to like little pump. But he's going to be a grown-up one day. Yeah, he's going to turn to be weird.

I think he's going to flip the script. I think he'll start going to tie his face up. Yeah, a little extra. Start coloring his hair, orange, red, yellow. That's one angle he could go or he could just be a real demon. I don't think Lil Bracey ever going to be a demon because I don't think he ever going to have an opportunity to be a demon. Shit.

I don't know. Where are you from? Ogden, Utah. Out of here. Hey, hey, hey. I said on this podcast that I've been to Ogden, Utah, and that it ain't on shit. And then I got corrected by a lot of people in their comments being like, bro, it actually really do go on out there.

And I'm like, all right. Even though I've been there, I can't act like I know what the worst crimes and shit that go on there off. But I'm like keeping a bando, like the three chain that he got. If he was out here, that would have been chalked. we would have been got that. On the beat. And you know what?

He's going out. On the homie, I love a little brazy because he's so funny because he'd be running every time somebody puts him up in the goal. But listen, though, that three chain would have been took. We would have been got that. I don't know how many.

Whenever he gets into one of those situations, there's a reminder that he hasn't gone through puberty yet because he'll be like, hey man, come on. It's like, oh shit, that voice ain't. That ain't. He going to get there, though. And you know what? I would love to see him continue to elevate

because Utah is a forgotten scene. Young boys trying to make it popular. That shit is a forgotten scene. Who rapping out of Utah? People love a comeback story. So if he could turn into someone who's not getting pumped out every two weeks, so let him get punked out because,

you know, the best part about it is, he can always flip the script and start doing techno music and go crazy. He's going to be like, yo, Coachella book me. I did no jumper in 2025. I was a blood. I was a blood. then I switch to techno music

and made 20 M's off this shit That's the goal Because at the end of the day You want to have generational wealth Bro, if he switches his life And stops worshiping J-bo And starts worshiping shirleks or whatever That's gonna be amazing

Hell yeah He could do it He could do it I think it's just gonna take some time And mental growth Adam get a little brazy Taping me in rear We're gonna turn up

For sure He's gonna be five But all that three shit He's gonna be gonna be throwing five For sure He's gonna be on program though Like you feel me He seems impressionable

Like I would have Jaybon on program. Little, bro, we ain't doing that clown-ass shit. Because you traveling across state lines with all this. We got other niggas for that, bro. Like, I would have him on program, but niggas ain't here. They just want to crash, so go crash. We're going to get this money. We're going to stay free and stay alive.

Let's go crash. No. I'm done to crash. Let's crash. Jalise, thank you. You're welcome, Adam. Dream Live, Izzy. Appreciate you, brother.

Epic interview, honestly. This is going to be very good for you. They're going to see this. gonna be like, damn, I f*** with him. I hope so. They might, they might not. Nah, I think they're gonna like what you were putting down.

Yeah, they might crash. My little brazy for sure is gonna be coming on. Oh, yeah. I f***a brazy, though. Brazy cool. We're gonna take little breezy to go spin. I'm telling him, no. Taking Brazy to go spin is crazy.

Gonna take lover to go spin. I ain't gonna do no hundred years. I ain't gonna do any years. I ain't even gonna do 100 years for you. He's already been spending so much, but, you know. He threes. He's all spinned out.

I ain't you. He been spinning. All right. Appreciate you guys. Dreamline Fursi. Jalise. No Jumber. Coolest podcast.

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