No Jumper - E-Love Tells Sharp About Getting Shot & Spending 3 Years in The Hospital & More

Episode Date: December 11, 2022

Legendary producer and 2021 Hall of Fame inductee E-Love, talks about his lifelong relationship with LL Cool J, Def Jam, making video games with Stan Lee, getting sh*t multiple times, and more. https://www.instagram.com/eloveglobal/ || https://www.instagram.com/tha_sharp_one/ ----- 00:00 Intro 0:28 E-Love on making a video game with Stan Lee of Marvel 4:44 E-Love on being on the live TV Show, “Wonderama” and how it changed the course of his life 10:21 His book coming in 2023 tells his whole life story from that TV show to meeting LL Cool J 14:16 E-Love on how he met LL Cool J when they were 11 years old, bounded instantly, E noticed very quickly that LL Cool J was special and hard-working 18:28 E-Love's new video game is going to be released for free, free download and will teach kids how to make their own video game and app 19:21 Making songs with LL Cool J at a very young age, shopping his music, shut down by labels 22:22 E-Love got sh*t 8 times and stayed in the hospital for 3 years 28:57 E-Love was plateauing in his recovery, so they tried medical CBD for the first time in NY 32:30 E-Love says Russell Simmons said “I Need Love” by LL Cool J was trash 37:44 E-Love relationship with Young Dolph, Project Pat, and the evolution of music 41:05 E-Love talks about rescuing children, documentary “Modern Sl***ry” dropping soon 44:34 E-Love explains how families are separated, group homes business 52:05 12 years of investigation, put his own money into this documentary ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Sharp Tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, we got a real hip-hop Hall of Fame legend in the building, ladies and gentlemen. We got my man E-love in the building today. What's good, what's good, y'all? How's it going? Everything's good.

Everything is good, man. Talk to me, man. How's life been? It's something started off like that. Life been great for me. back and forth to Tokyo. I brought Stanley there 2016 for the first

Tokyo International Comic Con we bought Stanley. Stanley, the late great founder of Marvel, Stanley. How did you get hooked up with him? Well, I'm in Tokyo. I'm developing a video game called Failless D. It's a drift driving VR racing game.

Right? Right. I'm with you. The face of my game is a guy by the name of the Drift King. He's the guy that started the Fasten furious. That's why they named him Tokyo Drift. The third called Tokyo Drift. That's my driver of my game. So I told my VC

right after they gave me a mail You know what? I'm going to bring Stanley here. That's a million dollars. A million dollars. Two days after they saw my trailer. When they saw my trailer, they was like, wow. You guys made this. I flew five engineers from Utah over to Tokyo to make my video game.

It's a drift driving game called Phyllis D. Right? Right. So we're in Tokyo, five guys working night and day, making different apps, trying to move the car. We built an incredible car. Long story short, two weeks later, we had the trail going two times around the track. This is 2015. They're not even there yet, right? So we had the first game like that.

When they saw it, they said, we put a million dollars tomorrow. Give me a million dollars two days later. So I'm going to do the first Tokyo International Comic Con. I'm going to bring Stanley, Jeremy Renner. They said, no, you're not. So why? We reached out to Stanley numerous times. Stan would never call us back.

So let me get my phone. I got Stanley on the horn, put him up on the big board. Hey, Stan, Comic Con in December, you free? Third week, I'm available. $2 million in my account tomorrow. I had Stanley in five days. First, Tokyo International Comic-Con. Did y'all have to pay Stanley to get him out there?

Yeah. I cut the deal right there on the spot. put him up on the Zoom and say, Stan, we're going to shoot your mill just to secure you and we're going to do the paper if we're going to guarantee you at least to 1.5 each day for three-day Comic-Con. So he made

1.5, don't mean interrupt, so he made $1.5 million each day of Comic-Con for those three days. We had 150,000 people there. To get in with like $300 per ticket per day, it was like $1,500 just to walk in the door. And everybody walks in and it was averaging 5 to $10,000

that they were spending. I would never, I mean, I know comic books and things like that, or, you know, there's some that are worth Buku money, you know. But just even for like, for Stan Lee, I can see that big, because he's a big piece of what I would think comics would even stand for today. Which piece? Right? You saw what the Black Panther just, I mean, you know, I believe it was $180 million.

For a first week. For Black Adam and everything else. That's Stan Lee creation. He started that. That's got to be crazy, man, just to even think back on it. Like, you know, this man had a vision back then. And then just for people like you today, E-Love just to even have a chance to even work with him, man. That's like, as goat status of the comic game or anything of that type of nature.

He is that guy. There's nobody bigger ever. Well, we've talked enough about Sam. Shout out to Stan. You know, I got love for Stan. But I'm here to talk about E-love, man. I like to dive into this one, man. I like to start it with, you know, where do you, where do you?

grow up, man. Like, where'd you, where are you from? Well, I'm from, my family of immigrants, first of all. My dad came here as an immigrant from Antigra, the Barbados, you know, the Caribbean. Disclaimer. Disclaimer. Yeah. Right?

You know, all he wanted to do is give us a better education, right? Right, right. I had five, sisters, three brothers, and, you know, we grew up primarily in the Bronx. I had an interest in my childhood. Something happened to me when I was about eight years old. It changed the course of my life forever.

You want to hear about it? I'm all ears. I'm all ears. Hey, man, take your time, man. Even if you lose some of it, we got to double back on it. I ain't got no problems with that, man. This is me and you. Hey, don't even think of the cameras even being here, man.

We're just having us a conversation. No, of course, no doubt. I was about eight, nine years old. I met two girls that were living directly next to her to me, right? It was a black, and was a white chick. I was to watch them every day. They used to sleep early in the morning and come back late in the night. So I said, excuse me, what do you want to do because I see y'all leaving and coming and going?

We have producers. I said, what are you producing? I said, we're doing this TV show called Wonderrama. That was my favorite show when I was growing up. It was a live TV show that came on every Sunday. Can you break it down for me a little bit? I'm not familiar with it. This is a show called Wonderrama.

The host was a guy named Bob McAllister, right? At that time, he was like, you know, you're Jay Leno. He was like a daytime type of guy, like a Wayne Brady. but he had the number one show on Sunday it was a live TV show. So every Sunday that show came on he would call one of the kids the kids would come down

what's the name is bird and sesame street if you answer it you pick a prize you just won right? Wow. Yeah right so tickets you can't even get tickets the waiting list was like five years yeah right

sir the waiting list was five years worst in Section 8 worst in Section 8 Absolutely five years waiting list right Right. So I got three tickets. They offered me one at first.

I said, you know what? Thank you, but I can't take one. I have two sisters. They definitely have to. Okay, we'll get you three tickets. They got me three tickets. They drove us down. When we get to the set, we walk, we parked, we passed by this line, a bunch of kids.

I'm like, look at all the kids. I'm really observing, right? Right, right, right. It was not one black killing that line. So when we got off, when we parked the car, we got on the line, we were all in the line, Auburn and back of the line. So, look, to somebody driving by it looked like

slavery never ended. White's first. Exactly, right? I understand, I understand. I'm like, okay. So if you finally walk inside, I hear a voice, I said, hold up.

That's Bob McHouse. That's the host of Wonderland. Hey, I'll be right back. I ran right after Bob base. I say, Bob, you're the best host in TV. You love your show. He said,

you look like he was in a jam because he had like four or five other execs around him. Sure. They were chewing about. I didn't care about that. I was eight, nine years old. Yeah, you're going to be Bob.

I'm going to say. I'll be walking around. Bob, love your show. You're the best host in TV. What are you doing here? Hit him and something. I'll be over here. I'll be over here.

Get over here. You're crazy interrupting people. My oldest sister chewing me out for leaving, right? Bob finally calls me. He brings me down to the set. That's my moment. What's the name of Burden? Sesame Street.

When I was a kid, I never watched TV. Only watched TV when I was watching the commercial. I said, turned down the show and turned up the commercials, right? Why was that? Because my mind was on the commercials because they were selling things. I wanted to see what they were selling. I was interested in marketing at a young age. Yeah.

Didn't quite know it yet, all right? Right. So I said, Big Bird, I read my sister's lips. Right. And he said, you know what? You're right. Big Berk. Pick any prize.

I have five sisters and two brothers. It's eight of us. They only had one bike amongst us, so I said, you know what? I'm going to take this hat over here in this box that made no sense to everybody. I said, I'd like to hate the bike. I don't know.

I took the magic hat home because the magic hat was this guy with a cape horn with a wand over his hat and things start flying out, money, bikes, in my mind, I thought it was real. Well, I get home, I'm going to make a bike for everybody in the family. You idiot, this is not real. It was a commercial. It's fake.

It's not real. It was just what you, I didn't find it funny because I'm like, that was something that he wanted to change. You know, you being a child. And you're like, yeah, I can get this one bike, but if I get this magic trick, I can make bikes for everybody. If I was your parent, I probably, you wouldn't have seen it, but I probably would have broke down later on that night. just knowing that's why you did it. Yeah. You know, because obviously we're not having that much.

Exactly. So that was my mindset. So long story, short, man, finally went to sleep around quarter to three in the morning and waving the wand over the hat, trying to create magic. I'm like, this thing's not working. So I'm like, I finally falls asleep,

and I'm on the bus stop at him on and getting the bus. Earl, Earl, Earl, I saw you. I saw you on Wonder Woman. I'm like, this is alive, Team Risha. Everybody saw me in Wonder Woman. So I'm finally arrived at school. Ms. Sheriff, I don't have my home. Oh, Earl, sit down.

You're like one of my favorite students. How could I be one of your favorite students? You just had me in the dean's office last Wednesday. What? Right. She said, Earl, after she said, good morning, boys and girls. Good morning, Ms. Sheriff. Earl, stand up and tell the class,

how did you get tickets for Wonder Woman? We tried, we know one of the producers. Nobody could get tickets for this show. They would not give tickets out. How did you get three tickets? because I saw your two sisters in there. I said, yeah, I know to the producers, they gave me tickets. Actually, next season, Bob won me back on again, because I was a big winner.

So, what? So all of a sudden, the sheriff was being very nice to me that week. The girls are carrying my books. They bought me lunch. Whatever you want, I all. Because I was famous for that one week. Because until the show ran again, I was that guy. Go ahead.

The young player. So the name of my book that's coming. coming out 2023, it's called Famous for a Week. And that tells the whole story about how the whole thing happened, how I met LL, how we met Rick Rubman and Russell Simmons when, you know, Rick was a student at NYU and Russell was, you know, that guy in the house that got you whatever you needed. Russell was that guy. When you were, and I just want to ask this, and we're going to talk about them.

We're going to talk about Russell. We're going to talk about LL KooJ. We're going to get to them in just a second. but I have to ask you, man, like, when you were that age, did you ever think that you were going to make it to where you at today? Like, just even being able to meet some of those people, L.L. Cool J. and people like that. Like, when you were young, did you say, hey, this is where I'm going to be?

Well, I was talented in my own right before you met. Well, I had a situation going. I was about 12 years old, 13. I think I was just turned 13, maybe 14. walking down the street and this white guy pulls up to me and this really nice car. I'm like, oh, it's a really nice car. He said, hey man, you want to make some money?

He said, doing what? Right, right. He said, just hand out some flies. I said, come on. What kind of money you talk about? He said, well, I'll give you like 200 bucks if you hand out like three, 400 flies. 200 bucks. Come on, bro.

I'm caught to 200 bucks. If you're talking some real money, I'm interested, what do you have in mind? I said, well, why don't we do this? I can put together 1,000 kids in Queens, a thousand in Brooklyn, a thousand each barb. We have five brothers in New York. So I could put five thousand kids together that you hit your flyers twice a week.

He said, okay, cool. Let me give me another. So I got a beeper for you, right? Take my beeper number down and get back at me, right? Back in the day, you used to be on your beeper like anybody's beeper. You hit the light to see if anybody's beeping and nobody's beeping just to show that you have a beeper, you know? Yeah, he used to be able to spell shit with the numbers sometimes.

Turn it upside. There you go. You know, right? Yeah. So he beats him back. Vitori, he said, yeah, man, I'm going to give you some money to do $5,000, like you said. So I started the street team with the guy named Peter Gation. For those that don't know, Peter ran the nightlife in New York City.

He had the tunnel, the limelight, and the palladium. The tunnel, that's the ultimate hip-hop spot. Was he like a socialite is what you would want to call him? He was the club owner. Yeah, Chris Liding No, Chris Lyddy Never heard of him But just to like hear like his job description

Like what he does He's at the happening places He keeps the happening places going He sound more like a social light I would want to say in a sense Right? Like a studio 54 These are-

Yeah, socialites man Yeah, money and power Oh nothing but And I was bringing everybody I was bringing people from the sports world Yeah From the entertainment world Oh man

And from Wall Street Because they paid for everything You know They see models say credit card comes out and they only can't you know it's a million dollars on the card whatever you guys want to do those sponsors the event so i started bringing in the people for all his clubs early in the 80s you know that's why i started working for death care before recouped at russell with uh the street team that started the pulses bus stop billboards in new york

moved to philly they moved across the country you know i think about it right because like money back then like people making money like it really went a long way back in the 80s. You know what I'm saying? Like today you don't really, you can't really buy shit with a hundred bucks like that. I mean, not nothing that you can really use. That's like $10. It's just to think about when like somebody says like, man, I made a lot of money back in the 80s, man.

Like 80s, early 90s. I touched a bunch of them, man. You could really believe them because their shit really did go a long way. It did. Because everything was costing much less. Yeah. So money's stretched. How did you even get caught up with, how'd you even run into like your experience

with LL Cool J? Let's start with him first. How'd you run into him? I met Todd. I met Toddman. I was, I had a mini bike and a little mini studio in my garage. My mini bike was kind of fast, so what I used to do, everybody wanted to ride. I said, okay, you can get a ride, but it's going to be.

It's going to cost you $5 to go one time around a block. So each person that rode, they gave me $5. So at the end of the name, everybody's money in my pocket, and I still have my bike. So that's how my brain has always worked. Right. So Todd came up. He wanted to rise.

He looked kind of short. Once you get on the back, we'll go around for free. All right, cool. We run a block, and we started talking. I'm like, this guy's interested. How old were you guys around the same? 11, 12, years old 13. Oh, my God.

You guys know each other since kids. Yeah, it's kids, kids, man. Kids, I mean. Every kid wanted to be one DMC and Kurtzbo. We were like, who's going to be one DMC? We had some pretty good rappers in the neighborhood, but I'm like, nah, you guys ain't cutting it. There's nobody here yet.

Well, I heard him spit. I heard him again. Must have took a drink of water like that when you say, hey, do it again. I've seen his work ethics. I've seen his work ethics. Yeah. That was the key. The work ethics was the key.

You saw this shit at 11? Yeah, man. Damn. Because he had, he had in one man, and I had the other way on the marking side. Knowing how to get the word out.

So when we met recruiting the Russell, when they had the label, I had to take all the flies in night and do the street team and get the, you know, posters, signage with death jam all over New York City. I mean, I had a thousand kids in each borough.

You know, what's dope about that. Love is, you know, back then, for man it is just crazy like how it comes back around like everything back then was really word of mouth you had to like get out there post that shit you're gonna put it up in different neighborhoods people had to see it people had to know about it as up for just right now click of a button it's to everybody 10 knowing people yeah you know what I'm saying it's not no real manpower anymore you don't got to go put the manpower and the man hour in for it to go put these these posters

up so I know that shit had to be something especially going to neighborhoods that probably didn't mess with you as much you know Yeah. Well, it's kind of interesting. You know, I actually like the old way better because you touch people, you reach people, you meet people. I'm a people person at the end of the day. So this way, you know, I'm really good also. We did one of the early YouTube deals in 2002. So I understand both ways, but I still like the other way better.

Why would that be for you? Why would you like the older style of, you know, born-again footballers? Everybody's on foot, moving. And everybody's posting things. Everybody's putting stuff up all throughout the communities and cities versus today you've gotten a seat just a click of a buck. No, I like the old way better. But from a business standpoint, I'd rather this way because I'm cutting deals right now overseas in Asia.

And, you know, some people that I'm talking about, they've never been to China before. So, or they've never been to Japan before. Tokyo, none of them things. Yeah. So I'm cutting deals over there that. Wow, you know, that's the market because the minute the pandemic happens, what do we need first?

The mask. China, okay? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm with you on this. Come on. You can talk about that. For me, I've had a great success

in Asia, Japan, bringing Stanley over there, and I have a video game company that I'm working with in Japan as well as China. Yeah. So both is... That's cold, man, to have that going on for you, especially for video games,

man because them shit sell like hot cake. Let's be real, especially if you got something that's in. That kids want, man, they're going to eat the shit up. But I just never understood neither, though, love is how, you know, they put these games, like, kind of out of reach for children. Are you going to put it to where, you know, a kid can actually save up a couple bucks and actually go get the game, or is it going to be out of reach to where, you know, it's only solely up to the parents?

My game is going to be totally free, first of all. I'm not charging for my game at all. So I'm going to be one better than what you said. I don't want no money for me at all. It's going to be free download. It's in your phone. You can play. You can win things without spending a dime.

And we're also going to teach kids how to make the app for the game. We have an after-school program that's going to hit seven cities. We have a building in each city donated to us from the mayor's office. And we have Apple. We have other big companies bringing in computers and the whole nine to teach kids, not just how to play the game, but how to make it. the app you need it on real so you can create your own game so you can make your own money if your game is good on your own.

Wow. Back to LL. Back to L. And your relationships with him, obviously you guys have been friends since kids, you know, and he is what I would want to say, a music mogul. Yeah, no doubt. He definitely has set, has imprinted himself on the hip-hop game. You know what I'm saying?

just the whole the rap game period, you know, from just back in the day. You said when you made him rap one more time, you said, man, let me hear that again. And he spit it for you, man. Where did y'all go from there? Where was it for him? Was it up for him or did it fizzle out for him and he came back? No, we were kids at that point. At that point, we were just trying to make songs.

We were trying to find different producers. Just trying to figure out what we were going to do, how we were going to do it. because even after we came up with, the very first song, which was, I need a beat. It's shopped it around, the labels just get out of here. That stuff is not going to last. Beater, you guys are nuts.

It's like, you know, run the MC incredible. It's going to be over soon. We're not interested. I mean, we heard everything. So they were saying pretty much that this is, so they pretty much treated hip-hop rap like a fad. Like, it'll burn out. It'll be over in two weeks.

It'll be over in two weeks. Y'all don't need to worry about it. You guys could better get jobs. Okay, let me give you this application. You guys are going to need jobs in a minute. Wow. This is not going to work. Nobody thought it was going to work.

Nobody. I mean, nobody thought it was going to work. I mean, I'm talking about outside people. Business people. There was black professionals in our name. These guys are multi-millionaires. So, yeah, man, put up a money. Oh, man, that stuff is you over two weeks, man.

You better get a job. That country club, man, all these loans stuff talking about some rap shit. Man, blah. A rap shit. It ain't going to happen. You were around for the start of things. We were there.

We laid the first break. Wow. How did you, how did you in a, how is, how are, how is, however, the relationship with you and L.L. today. Oh. Well, I don't may speak to that much. I mean, we see each other out. I'm, you know, we see each other out. You know, I'm in my own space.

He's doing his stuff. thing. We text once a while we talk, but I don't you know, we don't really you know, talk like that. What do you think changed the relationship? From your perspective, from your opinion. You don't have to be a fact, just your opinion.

No, just my opinion? Yeah. What do you think change your relationship? It's not even that one. You know, if you're not, we were together like for a long time every day, right? Then I got shot in 1989. I don't know if you know about that, but I got shot eight times in New York City.

Hopefully, I hope we're about to get ready to talk about this. For real. Come on, man. Let's lead to this. This is where I want to be right here. Yes. Yeah, right. So, yeah.

I was aware, though. Yeah. Continue. Yeah. I got shot. I was in the hospital for three years. Three years. Yeah, it was a long time.

I had two major operations. You know, I came out to the hospital. My back in a double barrel with colostomy. I got shot eight times. Back, leg, chest, arm, stomach, hip, ankle, groin. Right? I was in the hospital the minute that happened

I hit the ground I was running these guys trying to rob me this is a long story I'm going to get into the nap line No, can we Because that that leaves the viewer home

Okay we can get into it We don't want to leave them hungry Like the world He's about to get into it And then just like I would like to know We got time No problem Okay cool

We got time Take a time So long story show So we decided to take the night off from the studio. So we all did our own things. We've been grinding, making different songs. This was between I'm Bad and Walking with a Panther. This is 89, right?

Summer 89. So we took the night off. We took the night off. And I started to go out to Long Island with these two dudes from around my way. So we went to go out to Long Island. the guys get into like a little riff with this chick so he kicks a car. I'm like, yeah, what do you he kick a car for? You'll be kicking people's car. Come on, man, if that's, let's just, let's just go over things like that happen. I'm not that type person, you know what I'm saying?

It was a conflict. I'm like, I just came out here, have a good time. If it's not going to be that I can go back to New York and do my own thing, you know what I'm saying? So we went back to the second spotting Queens in South Jamaica called the scene. It was right on Guy Brewer and Boulevard and Basley. Right next to Basie House's, this. This is where Nikki Minaj is from, like Basie houses. But this is 89. She's, yeah. Right.

She's a baby at the time. Exactly. He's two, three. You know, something like that, right? Understood. So, we parked the car. We walked across the street. I'm in the middle.

You know, I got Julian on. This is my wild Julie days. I'm blinged that on. I think a lot of people back then, 89, had a lot of Chuck Jewel. Yeah. The big pieces and all that. It was a piece of the culture. Exactly, right?

So, three guys were all about. Yo, motherfucker, yo, yo, yo, yo, when you shit? Yo, when you shit? I ain't had my hoodie. My hat on, you know, I had a hoodie on, right? So my hoodie came off. He said, oh, shit, that's your love. Oh, shit, yo, that's, oh, yo, fuck.

When you shit, what you shit? Right, what you shit? Right, what you should? I'm gonna, man. I went off my watch. I held it over here. You reached to grab it. And I pushed the gun away from my face.

I made the one for it. So he started letting off crazy. I mean, I mean, it was like 30 shells all over the floor. I got hit like eight times, right? So I'm running, my arms bloodied up, chest is open up, chesters open up, stomach. I know my leg was broken at that time I could feel it. I'm still flying, right? Because it's either I run fast when I'm going to be killed, right?

So I got hit a couple of times, and the cops came. The priest is right around the corner from the spot. I mean, you could walk there. Cucks are just running around the corner because they heard gunfire. What the hell is my blood? They ran around like, oh shit guys jumped into an ambulance But the lights on and flea

Flea flat One of the guys was working for the EMS That was his side hustle You know There's a getaway With the ambulance You know, lights on Everybody move aside

You know what I'm saying? That's the robber right there, right? So they got away And I'm in the hospital Yeah And I'm I know at that point in time When I'm in the ambulance

I'm like Look to the ground down to my left, the whole force full of blood. My blood. Okay, I'll probably get out. Look to my right. So my pops, at that time he was already dead. It was half of him.

So he said, he just had his hand like this. So I kept trying to reach his hand. He kept moving my hand back. I mean, he kept moving his hand back. He kept trying to reach his hand. So the Inman's guy pushed my hand down and strapped me down. The cops asked me, describe the guys. I finally pass out.

When I wake up, it was about two, three days later. I was in the house. I was in a survey for about 44 hours. They had two different teams going back and forth. They said, no, 26 hours. I was going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Two teams. I said, he's briefed.

But barely. I don't know if he'll be the only last. This is, I mean, we're getting paid to him. You know what I'm saying? Could you hear them as you were laying there? Like, did you hear them talking? No, I was out. I was out. The only thing I felt was

somebody going like this. So I'm making like this on my forehead. It was a cross, right? I woke up. My hand was strapped down. My leg was strapped down. I had a tube of my mouth, two of my nose. I can talk, right? Saw L.L. So my mother. So Russell, some of my sister

and I saw the priest right in front of me. Hold on my leg. Give me my last right. I like, the fuck. This is. I'm not going out like this. This is not happening. Right, right. I just calmed it down.

I didn't stress it out, but I just calm it down. Took it all the way down. So, every day, that was the day I was supposed to go. So I came being stronger and stronger, so they finally took two by my nose and my mouth after. And I'm like, yo, my leg is killing me.

My leg was broken, surveillance. It snapped. It went straight through the problem. It was in peace like that, right? So, It was the process just to make it back out that situation. Everybody was around while that happened as the recovery took. I mean, this was, it took me four years to get back on my feet.

So, you know, people, you know, the guy's busy. You know, he's in the man. I mean, he was hot. I mean, he was really hot at that time. You know, he was in the man. Did you feel like you would, um, did you feel like there was a point that you probably wouldn't walk again or you felt like you wouldn't have, you know,

any chance of just regular life again because you didn't got hit all these times legs broken never downed never down it not one day that's crazy not one day never down it spent years in the hospital yeah three years exactly three years at that point to be in hospital in 1990 they said you're not healing. You're just not healing at all. We want to give you something and see what happens. You got to put a needle in your neck and have to stain your neck

and you can't use the bathroom. You can't even get up to use the bathroom. I have to put a catheter back in you. And, you know, we can roll you over and you go to bathroom. You can't even get up because the needle to have to stay still. You can't move at all. What was this needle for?

It was, they would give me this new drug. called CBD. You know what CBD? Yeah. Okay. I was one of the first person in New York to be given CBD medically. Wow.

1990. So they've had CBD around for quite some time, these concentrations? Way before 1990. Way before 1990. Yeah. But I was one of the first to be given that in New York City.

CBD and T.C. They gave it to me in the TPN needle in my neck. Stay still, maybe 30 days at a time. 30 days at a time. It cannot move. And you couldn't move?

Cannot move. Do you feel like it preserved that life back for you? It puts you back on your game? Well, there's two things that I know for show work. It was a CBD, THC. It was infused with THC, by the way. It just went straight CBD and THC infused. And then also was getting CMOs.

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you when they put you through this rehabilitation. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. What was life like coming out of the hospital after being in there for three years? Oh, man. God. I had a panic attack than third day because I can believe I was out of that place.

I had a little panic attack. They had to go back and they medicated and stayed there for two days and they came back home. But it was rough, well. I mean, that was the roughest thing. thing but you know I'm a trooper at the end of day nothing really gets to me I wrote the script while I was actually in the hospital oh yeah I wrote the script what was the script oh man it was let's talk about it's all right and don't you're looking at it like kind of like it was kind of dumb it was kind of dumb it was yeah it was called blunts and stunts yeah it was

called blunts and stunts right you know I mean this is a long time ago man I have a lot of comedians in there that was early now they've been now their household names I caught everybody early when they were like doing this shit for free you know I'll just show up and do it I got some more more and I got two other comedians where they on death game comedy they're doing this comedy circuit right now yeah so I got some people actually with names now but early so it was kind of like a you know like a homeboy shooter movie with the camp call type of thing you know one of guys that that was the lead he had he was from the music business you know so

We got Detroit, we actually sold out two days in a row in Detroit. Yeah, so we did good. How was it, man, to hook up with the infamous Russ? Russell, man, how was that like, man for you, man? Well, you know, at that time, he had an damn self, by the way, man. Russell's beyond, I mean, he's the battery goal of hip-hop. Yeah, shout out Russell Simmons, man, for real, man. Russell's the guy.

Shout out Russell. Learned a lot from Russell. You know, we had the great times of Russ, But there was one time where Russell was really wrong. And that was my best stories with Russell. It was like, Russell we got here in his song. We made it last night to hit. He said, oh, yeah.

He heard it. He said, it's the worst fucking song ever heard of my life. He said, you guys turn. He said, oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Play that again? This is a piece of shit. Are y'all crazy?

I need love. He said, I need, no, no, no. No, no, no. You're not putting that shit out. He didn't want to put it out. So the song with L.L. CoolJay, I Need Love, which is an iconic hit today. A lot of people know that. If you don't, you might want to go get on it just to have it in your music, just in your music bank, you know.

So you're telling me he turned down the song, I need love. He liked it first. The first one, he hated it. Took him a couple days and he said, okay, I see where you're going with it. I understand the concept. Yeah. But, I mean, coming off some hard songs, I need love. Right.

It's a hard man. Okay. That's what you want to do. You sure about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we dropped it and did what it did, you know. But he was like, man, I didn't see that one, no problem. Yeah.

But I feel like that's where it takes a different dynamic because, okay, we could rap about the hard stuff. We could rap about the cars, the clothes, the money, you know what I'm saying? We can also sing to the chicks. See, to me, that's catering to a different crowd. Not every chick wants to listen to the gangster shit all the time. You know what I'm saying? You got to bring something different. You know, and I'll be real with you.

Us as men, we don't really buy shit. But girls, they'll buy that shit. And you'll buy every motherfucker. She'd be like, I'll buy four of them for you. They can't buy that shit. Like, they'll buy that shit. Like, they're in support. It's just a little difference, you know.

So when you got the girlies on your side, man, You got some power. Oh, man. You got the girls in the inside. You got the guys inside. Because the guy's not going to go if the girl's not there. The girls there, the guys are going to follow. That's just how it goes.

Yeah. What happened to the first week that song came out, man? What did you remember? And it hit the airwaves and Moble because it was feeling it. They was digging. I mean, that was a good week. We just came off tour. I think we were doing some scatidates and dropped.

It was like, oh, this thing is just. I mean, they get playing. like non-stop. I'm like, wow. I mean, the airplay was crazy because there was really no phone video. You know, like today, I mean, everybody heard, everybody was counting their radios.

You know, we only had Walkmans at that point. So, you know, it was a different time. And you just heard it throughout the train and you just was on different trains and different boroughs. Like, you get in a different car. Somebody's banging out radio bills off. That she gave me the chills, though, like just to hear like,

no, you get to see people playing my music, versus the only way I can see, even with an interview, if I do an interview that's 1.4 million views, that's all I see, is that it did 1.4 million. It's not people walking up the street, man, people in the fucking, like you just see people watching your shit, listening to your shit, like, you know what I'm saying? So to just know that it was more organic, that's a hell of a feeling.

Yeah, yeah. It's to be standing on the block, you're walking out from grabbing an orange juice, maybe in a sticky bun or something, man, it's early moaning. And my motherfucker's coming down the street and it's BMW on some gold BBA. Yes, the drop top, and he's playing this shit. You know what I'm saying? That shit hits differently, man.

Big time, man. That shit's got to hit differently. Big time. You just described the scene perfectly, man. Because I know them times, you know what I'm saying? Like, motherfuckers don't really know, man. You know, it's just a different time than it is today, man. People are getting on, Ela, from so much different shit, so many different.

types of genre of fuckery and just they put it because it's on camera and a couple of fucking people agree with oh that style that's fashion that's music I hate where it's went man I love music too much and they can't call me old to say because I love rap I've loved all that man I've watched it from Tupac's the biggies you know what I'm saying just shit like that coming up man I'm throwing up Westside as a kid don't even know what it is I'm seeing Tupac doing it no doubt

I see Tupac doing it in videos. You know what I'm saying? They're doing it on in front of his album cover and I'm playing it so I'm going up the same shit. All day long. You know what I mean? So I love, I love music. I just don't love where some of it is went today.

What's your opinion on, you know, you being a hip-hop icon, putting together, man, working with some of the best. What's your opinion on where music is at today? From where it's came from to today? You feel like it's gotten stronger? Do you feel like it's fell to the wayside? We won't even call it weak because I don't want to, you know what I'm saying? But just do you feel like it's fell to the wayside?

You know, back in, back when we started off, every artist had their own direction. They had their own sound. They sound different. L.L. does not sound like Doug U.S. did not sound like, like, Rakeem did not sound like Rakeem. Raquim did not sound like run DMC. Every artist had the own sound. Every group had the own sound

because the producer was the DJ in the group. The minute the label started using various producers to produce different artists, that's where the business went haywire to me when they started in that direction. I think they should just kept

the in-house where the group produced their own music themselves and everybody would keep their sound. Now everybody sounds like a combination of Lil Wayne the baby and Lil Durk. You know what I'm saying? They all, everybody out now that just came out, they sound like a combination

of those three. I'm like, some of the songs are cool. Some of the songs are like, eh, you know, that's cool. I mean, some of ours are a lot. I'll check for something in the more. I used to love young Dolph. That was my dude, you know. Yeah. You know, young dogs. A beast, man. Young Dolph, man. No doubt. Yeah, it's pretty tight. I like Project Path. He's one of my favorites.

He's one of my favorites. Love Project Pac. Oh, man. Love Project Pat. For sure. That's my man, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just listen to a lot of 3-6 Mafia. Oh, three-sies.

You know what I'm saying? Just even messing around with them. You know, that's how I think. I've even got introduced the project. Yeah. Was through them back in the day. I think it was a 3-6 Mafia album when the smoke clears. I'm not mistaken.

Could be wrong. Don't quote me. Yeah. I get on your ass. Okay. Love my man, B.G. That's my boy right there. Yeah.

You'd be home soon. And, you know, I did a couple of joints with him and my four-yard kid up in the D. Shout out to the D. What year you feel like it changed, though? What year did you see? And I know this is kind of the same question, but just diving in a little bit more. What year did you feel like it was like, this shit's getting watered down? 9 to 94.

That early? Yeah, that early. To me. Wow. You threw me for a loop with that one. They go on. They're fucking. man, they fucking up.

I'm like, it's not the same, bro. Y'all, y'all, it's not the same. I know what's going on. It's a lot of the business, before you see the business, the business exists. And it's a lot of behind the scene, shit. But, you know, that's a whole other

story by itself. I think between 90-94 in my mind. Did you see relationships changing around then? Oh, everything changed around that time, bro. I mean, things change, even though it may have been on paper, it's still changing. You know what's been, you know, that's going to get an attorney file,

file that lawsuit, but, yeah. For me, I've all just been focusing on what I could control, what I only control. That's why I hate, I mean, once in a while, somebody will hire me to direct a film or, like, the documentary that I'm doing right now, called Modern Slavery. That's another story. Where does this be dropping? Where can we find this?

when it comes out. I'm not sure. I have a situation with Netflix and Bravo. I'll go back and forth to see who does the best situation. Best contract pretty much. Trust me, you will hear about it. I'm not mad at that, man. It's for modern slavery.

This is a very serious situation right out here. It happened right in front of your faces and you don't never see it. It would have to be a part of the system to see it. But we're paying for everybody pays taxes and paying for deadly. What was for this?

movie is this a documentary or movie it's a humanitarian crisis taking place at Monterey Park at the children's the children court sent and moderate Park California it's about 30 minutes away from downtown Los Angeles and they're snatching kids at a crazy rape mainly black and Latino kids and it's a humanitarian crisis nobody's getting trials and the due process of law has been eroded and it's like a bunch of Republicans is running show down there and they're snatching kids. We have rescued about 350 kids

and me and me and my partners in the last 12 years without going to court and there's a documentary that tells the whole story about how much money they make, how much money do they pay the lawyers and how much the profits are. When you see them build a prison, a whole $50,000,

trust me, they're going to, fill it. They have a plan to fill it. They're just not building space. It's empty today. Five years for tomorrow. They build it because they know they're going to arrest a certain amount of people and they're going to plead you out

until you get it tied and you'll do time. A lot of people got to understand like a lot of okay, so we're going to talk about it and let's talk about it. You know, a lot of black Latino men.

And, you know, even myself, even when I went to jail, I didn't know my fucking rights. They didn't know my rights. I didn't know what I could do, what I couldn't do. You know, they run shit in these courtrooms fast. So, you know, your public defender is just a professional handholding. They're just there to hold your hand until things are, you know what I'm saying, until they can get, because you got to have some type of legal representation.

That's what's in the law, you know, is they got to give you some type of point in a, court appointed attorney. But in all and all, man, it's because I feel like they know that like motherfuckers don't really know they rights. You know, so it's easy to push it on you. Even if it's some bullshit and they twist in the words just to make it work in their favor.

You know, they're going to pull that because they feel like they see it in your face the way you may dress, the way you may talk, the way your body language is. Oh, he may not know the law. There's been a lot of people today, man, that have, I felt like put that, the test real quick. Like, hold on, man. Because people are not going to stay

sleep forever. People are starting to become woke. They're starting to see what's really going on here, man. When you see modern slavery, it breaks it down the way how they take the kid. I hope we don't get in trouble for this. But I told you, listen, you want to keep it real. We keep

all of their real, bro. Let's do it. No, let's do it. And listen to me, I'm a ride with you to the wheels fall off. When them motherfuckers fall off, we're going to go get FOMBO. There you go. So I'm here with you. Come on. I'm here with you. Let's talk about it. Yeah, this is a real situation. They're taking, this is where the young shooters are created.

They'll separate a family. They'll take two kids, put one kid in Palmdale, the other kid in Lancaster, or L.A. somewhere where they know the wife can't get there because she just came out of a DV shelter because they forced in there, so they're breaking the family apart of the very early age. The young girl becomes a prostitute that you see on Figaro, in 86. A girl walked up and down the street.

she used to be a straightie student right remember that she was a straightie student at no point so now the society the court system is corrupted and the corruption runs deep and it's shown in modern slavery

and this will be in this documentary this documentary this documentary I just want you to know this right here it's going to ruffle them man you know I've been feeling like you know it's been bad policing to police the police, you know, in a lot of aspects because we've seen a lot of things

that happen in a very horrific way that go unjustified almost, you know, throwing a couple years at some of these people, man, you saw the evil in their face when it was being recorded. Some people just didn't care when he kneeled on my man's neck like that. They told him he can't breathe, man. He can't breathe, man. He can't breathe. Yeah, exactly. He didn't want to hear none of that.

And I've said this before, man. I feel like, and it's just my opinion. I feel like they need to do evaluations a little sooner than they do on people. They might, you know, a couple of years. I don't really know the standards when it comes to that to when you got to go in and go get your head checked real quick, you know? But I feel like they need to really do better screening and sit down with these officers. Because I'm sure these officers go through some shit too.

Of course. They're living regular lives, man. They're living regular lives. There's some shit going on at home. You don't know what he got going on at home. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? He's bringing that to the job.

You're hiring regular people to be the law. Yeah. We have to hope that we're making the right decision in who we give a badge to. And it's kind of hard to do that when people know how to come and just show face. They know how to just show the face for the time. And then when they go on and it was like a mask, they take it off. They set it up on the mantel. They're like, woo.

Man, that was a long day at work. Yeah. You know, it's a, it is a problem, man, because there's a lot of people on the force, I feel like, that have a lot of anger issues, you know? I've been locked up before, man. And I'm just being honest, and I'm not saying for all police, because I know there's some good ones out there too, man, for real. They just want to live regular honest lives, man.

They're just trying to get a paycheck and keep the community. I do understand that. But then there's some that just come in that are on that power trip. Some of them may have been bullied as kids. I get it. I don't have my fair share of bullying. I'm sure you didn't caught it. Everybody done caught something in their time.

But I just don't, and I want the people that may be in law enforcement that may feel like this to hear me, man. Hey, let that shit go. We are all together in that. You do not have to hold that one and weigh that one on your heart by yourself as people, man.

Because we're people. At the end of the day, you don't have to hold that shit on your heart, man. Let it go. Let that shit go, man. I've been bullied. I'm sure you. you've had your fair share.

We've all had our fair share if a motherfucker can even say something funny to you. Now you grow up, you become the authority and any person that reminds you of that you're taking certain things out on them. And I feel like you should not bring your personal problems and feelings and emotions to a workspace.

Especially when it has to deal with, you know, the law and judging whether this person goes to jail or not or whatever the fuck you write on this paper. Yeah. It's bullshit, man. And I'm in 100% agreeance with you. I appreciate

when it comes down to that man, you know, and I believe that that documentary when you dropped down, I'm interested, man, I can't wait to watch that one. This is the real thing. This shows how each city is taking the kids and they're making money off the kids.

Each kid's about $350,000. There's about $70,000 kids, the city of Los Angeles and the state of California take, the state of California take about $60,000. about to $70,000 for the year.

Each kid's about $350,000, $400,000. Good amount. Being in juvenile detention centers and things like that. The federal government give the state $3.5 billion dollars for foster care.

They hire two firms. One firm has a $35. You know, I'll tell them, you have to watch a doc. It tells the whole. The group homes are a big business. You know? Huge.

I was coming up, man. You know, I was going to school with a chick. I was messing around with a chick back in the middle school, black and Asian chick, man. Pretty girl, man. Like, we was cool. And I remember she stayed in a group home right up the street from where I stayed at. You know, I used to go up over there and go see her, whatever.

You know what I'm saying? It was just a big business, man. They would get, them girls would get like a little allowance. Man, maybe a hundred and something dollars for the month. Yeah. You know, just to go, if you want to get some shoes, you want to get a pair of pants. Man, and like you said, we know shit's expensive, man. The shit never got cheaper.

Shit only got more expensive. You know, so just even like dealing with them, like a lot of them, man, they were good kids. Yeah, you know. Just fucked up situations, man, for real. Want to be in school. Want to live a normal life, man. But just because certain situations at all, hey, man, we need some kids. And I'm starting to see that now, man, because they throw them in these group homes, man.

This is a huge business. And not all them kids, like, because they say, oh, well, it's supposed to be somewhat of for troubled youth, correct? That's bullshit. That's bullshit, man. And if that's what's really going on, they're putting all this money into the child, into the system for, you know, group homes and things like that, man.

That ain't no fucking future for these kids, man. We need to get them to some people, some people that care about them, not people we just collecting the paycheck. And I'm not talking about the people that do. I get it. There's jobs that need to be done. But don't we get these fucking kids out at some point in time?

When do we get them out? Or is this just where we wait till they talk? turn 18 and okay now we cut him loose. No, those kids, that kid that was taken when he was 12 years, when he was 10 years old or six years old, the kid, the guy, he grows up in the system. He becomes the young shooter. The young shooters, they're between 16 and 27, 25,

or 25 to 30, between 16 and 30 years old. That's the young, that's the kid that's shooting all, they're doing all the shooting around the country. Look, 70% of the, people in state prison right now are ex-foster kids. It starts when the family is broken apart. This is what

modern slavery is all about. And you feel like they target more black and Latino communities for this quote-unquote, let's just call it a project. You know, for this project.

They, you know, they more lean towards, you know, a shade of brown. Blacks? is a small part of the population in America. We're a huge part of the population in the force of the industry. They target blacks and Latinos all day long, big time. I have talked to about 400 parents over 12 years.

This was a 12 year investigation that I did before I made this documentary. This was 12 years of my time. Nobody paid me to do this, by the way. I had a full. So you had to really care. No, I put my own money and time into this. Yeah, you really cared. Okay, I didn't talk about it.

I didn't write a letter about and send a tweet out or spend the text. No, I didn't do none of that bullshit. I did the real work. I had a crew to follow me around. We talked about 350, 400 parents over 12 years. I heard all the stories, bro. I heard how these kids, great kids, straight-A students. now she's selling the out of the figure on 8th, 86, okay?

There's a process. The state was creating that because they wanted her to wind up in state prison. That way we hire more correctional officers, more parole officers, more courts, more judges. We need more money for the federal government. They get money for this. They give the state the money. State pays everybody up, put a ton of it in their pocket, pay for their country clubs in their country homes. then we make the money off to society.

Hey, you know, it reminds me of a movie. I don't know if everybody, it was a movie that I had saw, but it was based off those kids that from Central Park. I think the movie was called When They See Us. When they see us. And it was based off them kids. They had to pay them kids. Yeah.

All that money. Remember the one kid, the one kid confessed to it in jail. I remember that. After all them years, man. I think they had, they were falsely accused of, of raping a woman. And the woman was of Caucasian. There's nothing wrong.

Like, I love white folks, man. So this isn't nothing to like, oh, it was because it was a white woman. No. But I'm sure it did take into consideration that these were a bunch of Latino and black kids that, you know what I'm saying, were involved in a white woman's raping. So, or allegedly involved because they all got out and they all got paid for. for it. And to be honest with you, I feel like the state of New York, my personal opinion, owed them a lot more money than just like, I think they split like 10 million between them.

With some shit like that, but these kids, they did time. I think the one youngster, he did the most time. And what was so crazy was, he was, his friend had met up with him afterwards. And they came, the police came to come grab him. And he was like, just don't let me go by myself. He ends up going with his friend. He ends up going with his friend and then him getting the most time. It's crazy how that happens. Man, I think the movie was called When They See Us. Yeah, remember that story. That's so I, so to where I'm at with it is,

I like how people have tried to like bring that to light in certain things. Even if they got to put it into a documentary or something like that, like, hey, this is because that was a true story. Am I correct? It was. I remember that story. The woman was raped at Central Park as a white woman. And there was a couple of teens and a couple of black kids.

and they swore, you know, they were trying to say, these guys are guilty from day one. They were guilty because she's white, and she's having to be in Central Park. And these are kids that happen to be in Central Park, and they shouldn't be in Central Park. And the minds of most of these people that's presuming guilt. So that actually split New York City in half.

I was right there as a kid with this half. I remember the club, like, night and day. But Central Park is fucking huge. I mean, Central Park is big. biggest shit. Yeah. And even and it was, and it was crazy because okay, we can we can face the fact that the kid was Latino

who did rape him. You know what I'm saying? But it just goes to show they don't give a fuck. He a Latino kid? Grab his ass. It don't matter. They were snatching everybody. And it was scary because the little kid even the kid even said man he was like, yeah, after I did that he says I got it, I took her walkman

and put her walkman on and walked off. It's just crazy how like, I'm like, man, y'all got to do some better policing man you can't just grab the first black kid you y'all he wasn't even black this kid was a lighter shade of brown like and y'all just wouldn't grab no you have color i'm grabbing yeah and it's just it's so i i understand e love i understand where you're at i understand where you're trying to show america a piece of our true problem uh this is what's going on um in the 80s you had all these guns

guns flood in New York City. Everybody from down south was bringing all the guns. 95 North was called steel 95 because it was steel pipeline. Everybody was bringing guns in 95. Yeah. Everybody was shooting everybody in the hood. That was cool. Nothing changed until Columbine happened. When Columbine happened, April 19th, that was my sister's birthday. When Columbine happened that day, that's when it became, we've got to change the gun walls. Now, we're killing each other now.

finally hit. So all of a sudden they were trying to do something and they never really tried to do anything because the gun lobbyists, they financed the RNC. You know, they give money to the RNC. So they tell the R&CA, you guys got to stand down. We're not, we only keep the gun law than what it is. That's why the gun law can never make the floor of the Senate or the House. They're all, everybody in the Senate and the House, they all own stock in these steel and these gun companies. How are you going to do? say you have me on ban guns all stock in the gun company come on stop it, fine. This is Joe. One more question before we get out of here. You love, I love I love him chopping it with you because you get me

to thinking like what's really going on, man. Because I think about it, but it's like my voice is one voice. But when we all come together, I feel like we are professionally dangerous. Absolutely. Because we can move in a different

accord, you know what I'm saying, if we move as one. My last question to you is when this documentary drops, we've talked about the music. Yeah. We've talked about the people but I feel like this conversation had a bigger purpose. And where we went with it.

When this documentary drops, what change do you hope to see from this or what type of awakening are you looking for in this mixture to to really wake the people up. What's just one thing that you want,

you hope this like this really, this one thing right here I know has got to wake everybody else. Everybody up. What are you trying to show? What are you trying to tell the people? What message are you trying to reach people with? It's time for reparation.

Federal government needs to pay up right now. And I feel like the truth needs no support. He loved, I appreciate you for coming. I appreciate you, brother. man appreciate you I'll do this is real we will most definitely sit down man you know and just

even I'm not even like here but just we sit down and we do us a dinner man absolutely I'll fuck with you the long way no no problem we're gonna get us about a year the sharp tank shark tank no jumper

no jumper sharpest coolest podcast in the world and we just win us for a triple double mate hey Riley shoot us out the gym