No Jumper - EBK Jaaybo on Coming Home From Jail, Stockton Politics, Losing Young Slo-Be & More

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

EBK Jaaybo talks about his upbringing, his father, fatherhood, doing time, getting signed, and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Jaaybo talks about only being home from jail for 30 days 1:30 Jaaybo breaks... down growing up in Stockton, his mom working at the Juvenile hall facility and losing his father in 2015 4:20 Jaaybo on stealing cars, and taking the stolen car straight to school 7:40 Jaaybo on how his father's passing affected his mindset 9:00 Jaaybo on linking up with EBK Young Joc, how EBK was created and his father actually being a crip 11:00 Jaaybo on if there was any rappers from Stockton that influenced him, calls most of them s*ckas  13:20 Jaaybo on when he first started making music and when he transitioned from singing to rapping 15:40 Jaaybo on how long it took for his music to gain traction and what it was like being a rapper in high school 16:50 Jaaybo on graduating high school in jail and breaks down getting indicted for discharging a __ 20:00 Jaaybo on his most recent case 21:50 Jaaybo breaks down what it feels like to be a father and getting his girl pregnant right before he got locked up 23:20 Jaaybo on if he feels like he was more popular in jail and being aware of how famous he is at all times 25:30 Jaaybo breaks down his relationship with Thizzler, says they helped his career  26:30 Jaaybo talks getting his face tattoo a week ago and breaks down what it means 28:00 Jaaybo on what he feels like he needs to do for his music to transcend just staying regional and police being fans of his music 30:50 Jaybo speaks on Young Slo Be's passing, how it affected him and rumors of EBK breaking up 32:50 Jaaybo reacts to all of the fan pages, hood documentaries and swamp stories on YouTube 35:40 Jaaybo on if there's a big racial divide in Stockton and growing up around a lot of Mexicans 36:30 Jaaybo reacts to Adam saying he's one of the only rappers with a shag haircut and says he doesn't like barber enhancements 38:45 Jaaybo says he loves Sharp, Adam asks if he has ever sold p and breaks down the difference between b__ and women 42:30 Jaaybo on what he's doing now to stay out of jail and what it was like seeing his baby for the first time after getting out 44:00 Jaaybo on this being the first interview since he got out  44:30 Jaaybo talks not being signed right now and still adjusting to being home 45:30 Adam asks what's the most he's made off of rap in a month and what was the first big purchase he's made 46:20 Jaaybo on moving out of Stockton and says you can't prosper out of there ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world. And today we got a long way to interview one of the hottest rappers in the streets right now. That's a fact. And it wasn't exactly easy to get them in here. Let's be real. A little bit of conflict at the door. We had to, you feel me.
Starting point is 00:00:14 But we had to get them in here, though. Man, it's going to be a legendary interview for real. Yeah, for sure. Most definitely. We hear it all, man. Yeah, how you feel it, bad? Man, I'm feeling good, bro. I'm just happy to be home.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Yeah, a lot of these rappers are kind of dry, but you got like a real good energy, a good aura right off the bat. Yeah, bro, you feel me? You just see. That's J-Bo happy to be home. Bro, I'm happy to be alive. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Not for real. Having to be home to be alive, bro, for sure. There ain't no reason to walk around this. That's right. So, tease. Yeah, how long you've been home for? What's today? The ninth?
Starting point is 00:00:46 30 days today. That's right. So you still got that, like, that glow, that feeling of, like, really appreciating everything? Bro, because it's a lot that I still ain't did, though. You own papers? What that mean? Like probation? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Fake way. Like not in Stockton though, you feel me. All my that I had going on in Stockton, the judge, after I did my time, he just dismissed it because I had caught some adults. And I was juvenile when I first had. You was on juvenile probation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was on juvenile probation. Okay, so you free, free?
Starting point is 00:01:14 That's right. Boss, can you take the ashtray and just put it on, like, by the arm rest just because I could already foresee this happening where he's going to, like, want to lean forward to. It's a little dynamic. I see playing out on here a little bit. Yeah, for sure. I was going to tell him that, but you're thinking, thinking. Yeah, I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:01:28 four steps ahead. That's right. So yeah, all right. Should we start with what happened in your case? Let's start early, early, man. Let's start day one. I ain't seen too many J-Bow interviews. Yeah, I only got one, right?
Starting point is 00:01:42 Yeah, one. And then I did one with shit, Doministo. Shout out her. Okay. We did that on live, though. Shout out to innovators, though. Innovators is fire. That's facts.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Innovators are a good dude. That's my man. You got a lot of people early. You got to respect it. No, that's facts. All right. So you were born in Stockton? Yeah, I bored a raise for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:01 What was your upbringing like? Covered up in Stockton. I mean, it was cool. Like I said, in Stockton born, you feel me? It don't be a lot of shit going out. It's a lot of violence and shit. But as far as the upbringing, we was cool. You know, my mom used to work at the juvenile hall.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Okay. You have both parents? Yeah, for many. You know, my dad's passed away. Rest in peace, Roy. When you were what age? I was 11. Probably like 10 turning 11.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So y'all have to. a good relationship before it was it was tight for sure right that was like my best friend for so yeah keep a literary song man rest of peace time how he got shot my mom he got like 2015 damn 2015 so i don't want to skip too early you feel me because i because all right so you know no no we there you grew up you feel me cool both parents your mom's worked at the juvenile hall facility how was that did you ever see her when you was there nah when about time i hopped in the field you know me because i'm not no fake yeah bro i'm not gonna act like i just been in the field Right, whole life.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, bro. About time I hopped in the field, my mom had already retired because my pops, I'm 19 right now. So my, my pops died 2015. I wasn't in the field yet, bro. So, like, I started going to Juvenileile probably like 2016. Right. You feel me? Then moms was already gone.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So, but all the staff knew my mom, though. You feel, me? Really. So you had juice? Yeah, I had juice a little bit. But they didn't know, like, just because y'all know my mom in me, y'all know me. Right. So they expected a lot more.
Starting point is 00:03:27 from me because they knew my mom. But I'm in there acting out and they calling my mom like, man, what's up your son? He beating people up, taking people food. I'm too like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not knowing though that's kind of disrespect for the moms because she got a name. Right, because she knows then your son and here acting up. So I'm just like, mama, this is what I'm doing. I'm thugging.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Right. Do you have memories of your mom like coming home and telling you war stories about all the crazy things that she was experiencing and witnessing in there? Yeah, but like I was yucked so I never do it with a bit. Like my mom, she used to always say it all the time. I got to work graveyard. So my grandpa watches. But I always thought like,
Starting point is 00:04:02 because she was right by our juvenile facility, it's a graveyard. So I thought she was going to the graveyard. Yeah, on bloods. I never knew my mom worked at Juvenile Hall until, like, a couple years before she quit. But she didn't even quit.
Starting point is 00:04:13 She retired because she f***ed her back. Mons was in her slamming. Shout out to Tina Johnson, man. Give it OC warning and slamming. Yeah, she got her backup. What kind of were you getting into that had you going to? juvenile hall that young uh i was like when i when i first i hopped in the field i was in the stealing
Starting point is 00:04:32 cars i ain't gonna lie you was what is it bipping no i wasn't bippin you were a kea boy we bipped we got to that but like when i first started like i was really into taking cars like like that it just was hell of cool to me i don't know like i'd be walking like my first case i caught it the case clothes already got the turn for it i just seen a car i hopped in that my mom just did joe dugie got about it and went to school when you go that's what you're doing it was school, that's right. Instantly with the flags. So, I was like, hey.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's where everybody at. You gotta go to school. Where else you're gonna go? Bro, once you get a car, you're a teenager, but a price go up. For sure. Stock went up immediately. The price go up. No, that's fast.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Everybody else on a bus walking, I pulled up. Yeah, I instantly went to school, bro. Pulled up to school. Yeah, the bitch is like, yeah, what's up? It's me. I told you, you should be, feel me? You should have to, you feel me? You feel?
Starting point is 00:05:23 What do after that? You just go to the mall, go back to the crib? I went to do after that. With the car. How long it took for them to catch you? Like, a couple, like, 20-something hours. Like, uh. That niggas are less than a day.
Starting point is 00:05:36 How did they call you? I went to school. I put up on Jack and him at the studio. We took it down. I went to the house. I woke up in the morning. This one, we live in our south still. We living in the valley.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Shout-on-Marrow Valley, niggas, too, for show. Niggas. So I come out the house, my bed. I come out the house. And I see brother, my nigga's slow. He's driving. And when I. I see him, he usually stopped, but he didn't stop.
Starting point is 00:06:00 So when he, when he doing this, like, bro, the boys is right there. I'm thinking he, like, throwing them. So he's trying to signal you. No, the boys are sitting on us. And he, and he'd get up out of there when he see him, but they really there for me. He thinks they're there for him, right. So I see him and he's telling me, like, bro, but I'm thinking he's throwing the deuce is. So I'm like, all right then, bro, I'm from to go to this stolo.
Starting point is 00:06:19 The whole time, police right there. Then I see the police. I'm like, oh, police. Br, I'm like 14, so I'm not thinking of it. Still a dumb, nigga. I turned around and went all the way around the block to the car. Like, yeah, they ain't on me. Got in the car, but they wrapped me up.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I drove around the corner, walked in the house. They wrapped me up on my mom. They surrounded the house, and I'm thinking, and I'm still young. So I could go tell my brother, like, brother, the police outside for you. And I go to the door yet. He's not even thinking this for him. He didn't stole a whole car. He don't think they're here for him.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Brom young. He's like, brother, they're here for you. Yeah, and so I go to the door. I go to the door. I go to the door. And they like him. And I'm sick. I ain't gonna lie, niggas shed a tear, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's your first time. You got that. Niggas shed that tear. Had to wipe it up real quick, though, because a nigga got to get in that mold, though. Because nigger fin to go in the halls. You feel me? Gotta get that mold.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Niggas don't know. It go up in the halls, bro. Yeah, for sure. It goes up. You're having a fight in there and shit? What? It goes up. Yeah, I got fades, for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It goes up. It goes up. Yeah. It's hard to separate all the kids because there's so many, you know, and you don't know, them staff don't know everybody who beefing. They try to send you, like, I already know when I was going to the halls,
Starting point is 00:07:26 the niggas be like, all right, you knew why, you go this way, you knew why too, y'all over here. Our law is different though. Like, they know, for sure. They know where niggas from and shit, bro. You feel me? And our juvenile haul, niggas talk a lot, bro. That's facts.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Like, and they don't understand. Like, the police listen to everything you and a nigga do, bro. So is it true? The Stockton's just this, like, incredibly grimy fucking place, because that's definitely the reputation that it has with a lot of the rappers and the, even the Diaz brothers in the U.S. They compare y'all this, nigga Chicago right now.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah. Yeah. It always been like that? I mean, to be honest, I wouldn't know because at a point a nigger wasn't in the field. Right. So when I wasn't in the field, I can't really tell you what was going on out there because I was playing football. But your pops was a street nigga though. Yeah, pops was in the field.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So it probably was being like that. Yeah, I was seeing shit, but like a nigga didn't know. Right. But when I got in the field, it was hectic for sure. For my little like seven years being like thugging, hectic for sure. So how did it affect you when your pops passed? when your pops pass? Like, did that make you go into street nigger mode?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Or like, like, how did it affect you from that point on? Like, did you go from cool kid, pops pass? I'm thugging or was it different? I mean, like, when pops passed, my mindset wasn't just like, oh, my pop's gone. Fucking, I'm in the field now. And nigger just transitioned into that. Like, I can't even tell you how it happened, bro,
Starting point is 00:08:45 because it's just like, I'm thugged out now. It's regular now. But I honestly don't know. I can't tell you, bro. It's just one day, I just remember, like, right now, I just remember one day a nigga was like innocent kid and then next day
Starting point is 00:08:57 nigga nigga dug out so when did you first start meeting jock and all of them because you said it was a little story when it was sloppy so y'all related
Starting point is 00:09:06 to my cousins bro jock and them used to hang out with my big brother like jock and them wasn't hanging out with me because I was I was young at that time but as I started like getting in the field niggas start like EBK
Starting point is 00:09:17 niggas made EBK like 2016 15 or something like that I hopped in the field like 2016 so it's like that's when I start fucking with them niggas for sure you feel me on some cousin's shit though niggas bangin e bK niggas you know how that shit goes right so how so how'd that come about like was y'all just sitting down like we're gonna come up yeah honestly bro them niggas was EBK already oh so yeah that's a question for like your brother yeah like them niggas um yeah them
Starting point is 00:09:46 niggas is ebk already it's kind of well because like i was when i was young bro so i'm seeing all my cousins and shit you see me my brothers and shit you feel me my brothers and shit they EBK, I'm pressing it too, though. But they always tell me like, bro, you're not from the head. Yeah, because I'm, yeah. But you tell me in some cities, if you're saying I'm EBK, that's just me you beef with everybody. Right, now, they made it.
Starting point is 00:10:04 But we really was awesome, like, we're really EBK, like this, we really pressing this. Right. I'm my mama, we're pressing that. And so was y'all already, was you're blessed before? Yeah. And then you threw it on. Everybody was blud.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It was just a couple crips. If my pop's a crypto. Mm-hmm. My mom. My mom. My mom. My mom. My mom.
Starting point is 00:10:20 My mom's, my mom. Your pops of Stockton, Crip, too. Yeah, yeah. My mom and Rory. You got to break it down for us because a lot of us don't know. Niggins think Nightingale's all bloods, like, so it's crips and bloods. Bro, it's a lot of... Break it down.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Let us in. It's some crips out there, bro, and it's bloods, too. And y'all smooth with them. It's not like, oh, we funked with them. Yeah, it's not like, we ain't, we ain't press on 311, like, CK shit. Right. None of that shit. We funk with all crips, though.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And we funk with bloods, too, though, because we, we, we, we, we, So it's the area. Like you from Nightingale, it don't matter. Yeah, yeah. It's trips out there and his bloods out there. Okay. You feel me? We ain't really tripping off to like the colored thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:00 We don't some everybody kill this shit, though. You feel me? But we just from Nightingale, that's the neighborhood, you feel me? Nightingale is not like a gang. That's just where we're from. It's the area. Yeah, you feel me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:09 All right. Who are you looking at as, like, rappers that you respected at Stockton when you were young, though? They don't have rappers? They don't have rappers? We got rappers, but most of them niggas is like dead suckers and shit now. You know, you would want to shout out now? Yeah. Nobody was looking up to. I mean, don't get me wrong. No, I'm not a hater. It's some of the suck of schlap. You gotta throw it, nigga. You feel
Starting point is 00:11:32 me, you gotta keep with a hundred. Fuck them, but they are type shit. Yeah, on my mama, though. You feel me, I got, I just said before we got on camera. On blood, some of the, some of the suck of slap, but, you think, shout to me. So it wasn't, no, like, stock the influence before you was rapping, but even if it was. My pops rap, bro. Ah. So that's what made you want to get into rapping? Pops? Yeah, for sure. Like, I ain't gonna lie. When I was younger, though, I wanted to sing.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You grew up in the studio? My pops had a studio in the house. Yeah, me too. I always, bro, I love music, bro. Like, people don't understand that, though. Like, people hear my music and, like, hear, like, some of the songs I make it won't be as turnt. Like, oh, Jaybo and his feelings, like, no.
Starting point is 00:12:09 He loved a craft. Yeah, nigga ain't in his feelings, bro. That's just some, this music. It's your life. Yeah, this is your art. Yeah, bro. Nick, don't be sad making these songs. It just be some real shit.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Because once I started to get deeper into your shit, I was like, damn, he does have like a lot more emotional variations, you know, because a lot of dudes are just straight up. I think that's what helps you, bro. That's what it's going to break a nigga through the industry. Nigel, when you switch to them samples, nigga, and then you start really letting them. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, shit, block the water, nigga. Because it's like, bro, like a six-year-old kid ain't going to be able to relate to shooting somebody, but they'd be able to relate to losing their pops. That's facts. You feel me? That's facts. So a nigga rapping about this, bro.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Nick, going to grab all crowds. You right. You feel me? This ain't just, this ain't just for the gangsters. Like, my mama can listen to this. My mama don't want to hear me talking about, oh, fuck the fly and that, whatever to this. She want to hear, like, son, could you really rap?
Starting point is 00:13:00 That part. Right. Something I could live, something I could be proud of and ride around to. What's the fly? You caught that. You know me. I was going to break it down for you, but you caught that. You're getting better.
Starting point is 00:13:12 You're learning. Man, niggas ain't going to, uh. You know, I air it all out. Yeah, niggas ain't going to get them niggas and no cloud, bro. some niggas, some dead niggas. If you listen to the music, you know. You know. I got hip through listening to the music.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Some dead niggas, bro. When you start actually, like, making music, though, you just been making music since you were a kid, but at some point you got more serious? I mean, the first song I made one of my pop's friends, B Houston, he wrote it for me and I just sung it. Oh, yeah, you said you was singing. So you was on some auto tune shit, or you was on some...
Starting point is 00:13:45 Auto tune, bro. Niggit was young, bro. Like, pops just... like, here, sing this. I sung it on some funny shit. It's on SoundCloud, though. My pop's posted it. Oh, it's still up. I ain't going to air that, though, because y'all, you know how they do. They're going to get to O. You're going to wake up. That's you going to be on Thistler, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They already be posting in a fake way. I don't care, though. End of the day, bruce some music, though. You feel me this shit? She was on some singing shit. So what made you
Starting point is 00:14:06 want to stop doing that? I can't see him. It wasn't working. No, I think I can't. That shit was ass. It wasn't it. I mean, but it's like a nigga, little-ass kid. So it's like it's cute. Facts. Right. When you a kid, you really get away with a lot of stuff that's trash. Exactly. Your voice ain't matured yet. You're a kid.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, but now, nigger damn their grown-ass blood. So it's like, yeah, I can hop on the track singing. I'm like, what's up at this, nigga? But don't get me wrong. You might need to get in that bad. And nigga makes some singing shit, but just not that, bro, that was.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Right. You said you'll do some singing shit, like some EBK singing shit, but you ain't gonna go hop back in that 2015-14 back. Uh-uh, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that, bro. So, please. So when did you start really getting more into rapping, though?
Starting point is 00:14:54 I don't know. Probably when I was like eight or some. Oh, no, no, rap. I always like rap music, but I start rapping when I turn like 12. Like after Pops died, I made my first song. And your Pops homie was helping you do it? Nah, them niggas was helping the nigga. But the nigger was doing it, though.
Starting point is 00:15:11 So you was just recording like on your own? One of my Pops friends did help a nigga, though. Free that nigga, though. On my mama, he was pushing the nigga, bro. He the reason why, like, EBK, like, he, paid for like the videos we got on rap shacking shit the sweet lady and shit the hummy for the hood he the one that was pushing us bro because we was just trying to be on some nightingale like fuck everybody we rapping but we're not taking it serious and he came and put the money behind
Starting point is 00:15:36 niggas got us in the studio like we was in the studio every day that's how EBK really formed came together and then nigga we start dropping on my mama but he he for surely helped and you started getting traction right away or like how how long it's take before people started really It didn't take that long, bro. It took like eight months, bro. Honestly, it took like eight, eight months for sure. From like your first official track video. But like what do you mean by traction like 100,000 views or just to touch some views?
Starting point is 00:16:04 In your city. Oh yeah, nigg was popping because I was going to high school at the time and everybody was slapping my shit. Nigger wasn't like- What year was this? 20, when I go to high school? 2017 or 16? That's crazy. That's recent.
Starting point is 00:16:19 That was recent. How did I feel going to school and being popular? Like, you feel me rapping and going to school and niggas know you? That shit, boo, though. Like, that shit was boo. I ain't going to lie. South East. If I was in high school and there was a kid in the school who was rapping
Starting point is 00:16:33 and saying the kind of shit that you say on songs, I feel like it would just get suspended immediately because it would be like provoking shit. You wasn't talking crazy yet? Yeah, I was talking. As soon as you started, just talking crazy. As soon as I start rapping, I'm talking spicy. They don't got enough resources to, like, really hone in on that
Starting point is 00:16:48 or like to give you a hard time about it. Niggit, it's a school in the trenches. Everybody tripping. What's that you call? Freedom of speech. Not too. Niggins say what he won't. I can't tell the nigga shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I was thugging, bro. Niggas in that school selling weed, hell of shit. They ain't worried about my business. I'm saying, he in the ghetto out of school. They're not tripping on a shit. We were doing hellish shit at Franklin, bro. Right. You graduate?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, I graduated. Really? I graduated in juvenile hard. You wore the cap and gown and all that? Yep, I took a picture, but I didn't, like, having a graduation or that. You didn't walk down and do the ceremony? Who was in jail? y'all was in jail oh all right yeah yeah i was in jail but i did it though that's right just to do it
Starting point is 00:17:22 you might come in handy one day would you get locked up for that time around i should another shooting but it wasn't like another shoot only we talked about a shooting you we didn't talk about the first one we're darrell for this time but what was the okay what was that first shooting that you got locked up for i was 15 that's a close case too shit we was at school shit got weird suckers trying to jump sis you been got on to do you feel me so the principal see me so he told on me so he told him oh the principal seen you get busy on the nigga yeah yeah the principal see you get busy though but you know a nigga really wasn't trying to hit nothing back thing
Starting point is 00:17:59 though so they just chalked it as to a nigger just like shooting to a dwelling discharging a firearm That's what the nigga pleaded to. And the juvenile hauled, bro, that's like, nigga go to camp for that. That's facts. But I was fighting, three-month program type of year. Exactly. But I was fighting hell of niggas, though.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So. You was getting refiled? Exactly. I couldn't go to camp. You feel me, a nigger kept catching extra days and shit. So they just gave me, like, 720 days. And then the niggie ended up doing like two years or like a year and a year and some change. So this is before you dropping?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, this is before this last time I just went to jail. This is when I just got out and dropped stepped the hardest. You was in jail right before that, yeah. I was in juvenile hall. Oh, yeah, so you was in the hall. So you gained some traction in school, you feel me? Yeah. So when you was in school, so what's that, 15?
Starting point is 00:18:49 15, then you go down. And you was already rapping. So we already heard, so what songs you had out the first time you went down? Like the first time? Dundatta. You did have some shit. I had Dundada and best friend and I had a lot of shit. We had a lot of shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:03 We had the sweet lady with Jack, no hook. I said when you went in So when you went in It was viral in that motherfucker when you went down Yeah for sure Like it baby Like not like how it is now Right
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like I go everywhere And it's like oh let me get up I'm being Nick wing stop It's cashier You still getting used to that shit But that's awkward I ain't gonna lie it's cool
Starting point is 00:19:23 But it don't be cool For some niggas Cause you run up on me wrong Bro like You gotta announce yourself On blood Like don't just walk up on me You tell the niggas
Starting point is 00:19:31 And you know I'd be regular Like us Trying to take pictures That's facts though. You just got to announce yourself, bro, because the nigga never know. Yeah, you got to push up,
Starting point is 00:19:38 dreadhead, nigga like, bro, what is you on? Facts. Like, oh, bro, I just listen to your music. Like, yeah, bro, you got to say that, though.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Like, say J-Bor or something. It'd be cool when it's the kids, though. That's facts. My mama, I love the kids, bro. Shout to all the kids. That terrible feeling, though, when you're waiting to get food and there's somebody's staring at you
Starting point is 00:19:55 and you think that something's about to happen. That's why you got to announce it. Yeah, you ain't gonna catch me waiting for no food nowhere, though. That's right. You got to move smart. So how long after you start rapping, did you start realizing like, damn, nigga, I got a mood different?
Starting point is 00:20:13 This one I just got out right now. Right now. Before that, he hadn't really stuck in. He was still moving like he and caused a sit. What's the lyric, nigga? I would never went to jail if I was moving right the last time. That's facts. So how did you get caught up that second sound?
Starting point is 00:20:25 Shit, some other shit. Same little shit, though. Some little stupid shit, bro. Some shit, anything you're supposed to happen like that, bro. Yeah, I heard some other. Some wild rumors. Yeah, nah, niggas be lying. Niggas dropped on something, though.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But, like, just fucking with niggins. Fucking with some niggas shouldn't even be with, bro. You feel me? You're lying for other niggas. Not even that, bro. For nigger, if I'm just move how I usually move and be by myself and with a couple of the little homies, I would never even want to deal.
Starting point is 00:20:54 But a nigger want to let everybody be a part of what's going on. You, feel, me, all the greatness and shit. You get the fucking with niggas ass, not even really built like that. So somebody told on you? He told him all the time when he got to jail For real That's the only time I'm going to jail
Starting point is 00:21:09 For a nigga telling me I'm not going to jail if It's just I'm not going to jail for no petty shit Like I know how to move You feel me So every time I go to jail somebody's telling me for sure Yeah
Starting point is 00:21:20 So that most recent bid was for how long Here in 10 months He almost did too Did that one like Was it really painful being in there Given that you just You have so many opportunities It's your hot, nigga.
Starting point is 00:21:34 He was going viral when he was in there. But they're losing, like, you feel me, a nigga in there losing homies. And it's like, nigga popping, nigga got bag. Nicky can't even spend it on that. Nick, buying commissary, like. It's different when you go to jail and you don't got shit. Well, then, nigga, baby mama drama, like, you feel, me, that's new. You go through it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, that's new, you feel me? You feel like me. You know what? I got a son, though. Shout out of my junior, though. That's right? He won. Hey.
Starting point is 00:21:57 My mom, boys. He won, though. How I feel to be a pops, man. It feels, though. It's a crazy feeling, hard to describe. Bro, southeast. That's that feeling right there that a nigga. That you know you're living for something.
Starting point is 00:22:08 That's outside of you. That's outside of you. So you got pregnant like right before you went in? Yeah. Literally right before I went in and it went down. That must be crazy doing that. So I probably didn't even do a year in 10 months. I probably did like a year and nine months, honestly.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I think I did like, I did 12 months and then I did like, I did 19 months. While you were locked up, did you feel like you were cooling off or you were still heating up in terms of how interested people were. It's hard to calm down in the county, bro, because like a nigga would be running this program and then it'd be a weird old ass nigga that, you feel me, that think he turned. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:22:45 And come in there and fuck up a nigga whole moda and get a nigga back in that mode that the nigga wasn't even trying to be in no more. Right. You feel me? But do people kind of, like, want to see you stay out of shit because they want to see you get out while you're in there? It was a few niggas like that,
Starting point is 00:22:58 but you know it's always them Instagram-ass niggas. In fact, I want to see if the rap nigger really tripping. Bro, yeah, we was on the bus earlier. Bro, we were speaking on you. Like, what you gonna do about that? Like, nigga, why you ain't saying nothing? That part?
Starting point is 00:23:09 Why didn't you do something about it? Why don't you punch him up and come tell me, oh, boy, was popping and I got up on him. And they know a nigga already catching phase, so a nigga young minded this, so a nigga gonna automatically push up on anything that caused a threat. Did you feel like your name was getting bigger
Starting point is 00:23:24 when you was in there? Or was it dying down as far as the streets? What you think? The streets, for surely keep a nigga name and name out. They throw a nigga name and everything, you, you feel me? because they know we the young niggas, so, you feel me, it's Jocking them, Jockin' them boys too.
Starting point is 00:23:37 That's facts. We the young niggas, you feel me, Jock got a lot to lose. We was the young niggas out there. Niggas didn't, was moving like niggins didn't have nothing to lose. So we, them niggas out there that they worried about, don't get me wrong, niggas worried about Jock too, though. They scared of that nigger too. But like, we the young niggas.
Starting point is 00:23:51 They didn't know we don't want that's gonna come with nothing to lose. But the nigg got shit to lose now, though. That's fact. Can't think about, think like that no more, but. But as a rapper, you're like super aware of how how popular you are at any given time on YouTube and shit, right? Like, I'm skeezy, but what-ski-mashed up everywhere? While you're locked up though,
Starting point is 00:24:09 do you feel like you're getting more popular or less popular, like with the fans and shit? Like, is it, is it killing you that you can't put shit out while you're in there? Not really, a nigga wasn't tripping, bro, because you gotta think about a nigga in the county doing hell of shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You gotta be focused inside. You can't think about the outside road too much because they're the fuck with your head. It's really a whole world in that motherfucker. And I didn't did time before you sent me to county. When they sent me from juvenile order to the county, It just was a new facility that a nigga had to get used to. It wasn't a big difference for you going from the halls of the county.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I've been hanging around grown-ass, niggas, my whole. It's just like the streets. Facts. As long as a nigga going to county jail move, how he move on the streets, he's going to be good. That's facts. Niggas be going to the county. Running their mouth too much. Running their mouth too much.
Starting point is 00:24:48 That's fair. That's facts. My mom, my niggas be soft in there, bro. You said you were smugging weed? What else were you able to do in there that people wouldn't expect? Shit, I don't do nothing else, but you know, it's, Oh, okay. The woods in there, they're doing hell of shit.
Starting point is 00:25:03 All kind of shit. The white guys? What are they doing? Black? I need to know. All kind of shit. Heroin, meth. They'd be going crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Damn, so the white boys are the ones bringing the drugs in? I don't know who bringing it in. We ain't going to incriminate. But I know who getting a hide-o. The niggas in there getting high, though, show. That's a fact. You could tell. However you do your time, I respect it, as long as you don't tell.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Right. Respect. That's a fact. Niggas got to hit their blacker, uh, what's the, uh, what's the, uh, what's shit, the sabbacha, whatever, the strips. They get they tar, they black. Do as you do. You are we fucking with Thizzler before you went in and everything?
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah, I was fucking with Thistler. So what's that relationship like? They cool, like, man, I ain't got nothing against Dizzler and that. I'm just to the neck right now, bro. So you're in your own way, you're doing your own thing now? I'm everybody killer, bro. Okay. I fuck with Dizzler though.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Don't get me wrong. I ain't got nothing against them. They do their thing and they helped the nigger career out a lot, for show. Right. But how you feel about the whole stock then rap scene as a whole, right? right now. Do you feel like you father a lot of it? I don't want to really say that. Take too much credit from the Stockton scene, but I know we play a big, a lot of niggas sound like you right now.
Starting point is 00:26:11 For sure, we play a big part. We do a lot out there for the city, for sure, as far as music. You feel me? A lot of niggas do rap like us and bite our flows and shit, but it is some niggas out there that did their own thing and still made away, though. Maybe some of them niggas is suckers, but I can't knock it if two niggas made away. That's a fact. When do you end up getting the cross on your face? Shit, like a week ago. A week ago.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Is that a tribute? Yeah. Something like that. Like, it's 50-50. I can't say what else is standing for, but I know you know. That's right. Which cameras? Is that that one?
Starting point is 00:26:46 That's a good one. What's the name of your eyebrother or two? Casino. That's your pops? Nah, my pop's Rory, bro. Casino, he's from the hood. That's like my uncle. Family, though.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, that's one of my best friends. on my mama we can see no world for show on my mama RIP, you can see my RIPRRRR right Right so I don't know Like now that you're out like What are you focused on In terms of like what you feel like
Starting point is 00:27:10 It's gonna really blow you up And take your shit to the next level I promise that's not an outro question either That's just a middle of the interview question I don't know bro How far you want to take this shit? Burr, I'm trying to That's the question
Starting point is 00:27:24 It ain't even like It ain't even limit how far I could tell you bro That's a fact. It's just, bro, when I get to the farthest part that I can get, bro, I won't even get further than there. You feel me? I'm trying to pass everybody up, bro, this music shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:40 I feel like if it's a lot of niggas, they doing their thing, but there's a lot of niggas in the industry that's trash, bro. That's a fuck. I don't slap niggas, to be honest. It's a couple niggas I slap, though, bro. Don't get me wrong. But a lot of niggas ass. So I feel like these niggas ass ass ass ass that's making it.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Bro, we can make it too, bro. That's what is. I do this music shit Bro to paint away And get an M bro I'm fin to do it That's right You see the money
Starting point is 00:28:04 That's where it's at Whatever I want to do after that I do it is what it is But as for right now We're coming for that million But does it feel like There's kind of like it's hard To surpass that
Starting point is 00:28:13 Because in terms of Northern California There's a lot of rappers Who are famous as fuck In that area But are not able to really Transcend that What that mean?
Starting point is 00:28:24 Like basically Regional Basically like a nigger sound Don't leave the Bay or a nigger sound don't lead to West Coast. Like how you feel about that type of shit? Like, like, what would you see to do to make sure your shit pass just regional? Just, you feel me, Seattle, down the day go type shit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I feel like a nigga gotta just stay true to itself, bro. That's right. Like, I feel like everybody been through shit, it don't matter, bro. Niggas, we're in the same room. We all don't really know each other like that, but we all probably have been through some of the same shit. That's right. And that's just how it is. We got to figure how to touch them, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So every time. I'm a nigga hop on the mic, a nigga thinking like that, bro, I'm in front of write some shit that everybody in this world could relate to, bro. The world ain't going to have no choice but to accept you. Who's going to say it's weak? If everybody relate. I'm getting pulled over by the police and they like, yeah, that song you just drop,
Starting point is 00:29:14 it slaps, but where's the guns? That's crazy. You feel me? We ain't got no guns, though. We're just rapping. The police pulling us over like, y'all slap for sure. I mean, the county, they, yeah, this slap. Police showing me like, yeah, got all these.
Starting point is 00:29:28 It's crazy. I'm telling you, bro. You're rapping about shit that everybody niggas can relate to you're gonna go crazy. That's a fact. You think like the jail employees like just get slowly indoctrinated into rap culture over time?
Starting point is 00:29:40 They start to love it. They can't help it being around it all the time. They go there nine, 12 hours a day. I mean, I feel like everybody like everybody said that even my mama, she says she say. I feel like everybody needs a little rap music though. Like who want to listen to some sloshy? Everybody want to get jiggies here and there though,
Starting point is 00:29:55 you feel? I mean, everybody don't want to just be all. That's bad and shit, bro. Nigger want to listen to some turn shit. That's a fact. Where do you listen to? I listen to all, you know, all kinds of shit, blood. What's on your playlist right now?
Starting point is 00:30:07 You? Besides you and your men. I don't know if y'all, y'all, y'all probably don't know. I've been off that, I've been off that. I've been off. Where are you from? He from Friscoe. It's called All Fax.
Starting point is 00:30:18 He trivet. One body, two, body, body, three, body four. Is that right? Oh, he's going crazy. He's called a funeral last night. That's that type of shit you on. Yeah, I've been off that. I've been slapping that whee's gotty.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't know if y'all, y'all probably ain't. I mean, I heard it, bro? You're giving us a list right here. I know what I did have been. Nah, we's got he. I'm for sure hip to wheeze. I don't really, no blood, though, like that, though, but I slap his music, though.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Other than that, though, I'm really off that slobby. Every day, for show, Shloby, that's mandatory. He was going crazy when he was down. On my mama. Crazy, man. My mama, schlob. Man, R peter him. So how you feel about that, bro?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Like, we don't want to ponder on it too much, But you feel me. Yo, your fans definitely want to hear how you feel about it. I mean, bro, you feel me? I love that nigga. I love that nigga, bro. Niggas had our differences in the shit, you feel me, on some kids shit. But niggas was fend to put our differences to the side.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You see jocke and that's cool and shit now, bro. I was just fin to ask you that too. We was planning this shit, bro. Niggas just didn't know. We been planning this shit, bro. Niggas just didn't put the plan into effect. So, bro, shloby was a big, you feel me? Part of that plane ain't gone now, though.
Starting point is 00:31:24 But niggas just going to keep it lit. Niggas going to push his schloby mode, shit, bro. you fit me and niggas, no, tornado's coming for that, period. There ain't really nothing else to say about it. And I was going to ask you, too, you feel me? Because you just kind of spoke on it a little bit. I don't know if you hit. But when you was down, it was hell of rumors of EBK breaking up, who beef with who.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Like, can you speak? Can you elaborate that a little bit? Bro, you got to think about, bro, we cousins. It's just like, bro, we pop. We more popping. At that time, we was more popping than we thought we was, bro. That's facts. So, like, everything we was doing, that shit getting displayed for the
Starting point is 00:31:57 public, bro, and everybody taking it and running with it and turned it in a sudden. It's really not. End of the day, it was some real shit going on to politics. But in the day, bro, we cousins, we family. We was going to sort that shit all regardless. It don't matter if it took 10 years. Facts. And the day, it was never that serious.
Starting point is 00:32:12 We was never going to kill each other. So it don't matter, bro. Niggas then through blems and songs. Niggas then probably said names and songs. Niggas then probably told some lies. You feel me on some kids shit. But at the end of the day, niggas grown. So we buy him passing all that shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:32:26 We can't get this bag, bro. I'm glad to see that, bro, because I ain't going to lie. When you went to jail and I was just hearing rumors without like, oh, the niggas is breaking on. I'm like, damn, them niggas ain't even, they're in real life together, bro. It's crazy. All of y'all together. Like, it's different when it's in a group and there's one nigga who good and the other
Starting point is 00:32:42 niggas trash. Nah, it's like 10 of y'all niggas is good. You feel me? No cap. We got a dream team. And it's some niggas that y'all don't even know about that's hard. Like, you feel me like Bruin'Near? Shout out my nigga Lebo.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I'm on EBK 300. Is it crazy to have all these fucking fan pages and shit that are obsessed with chronicling your life? Some of that shit be cool. Some of that shit be weird sometimes, though. Like, yeah, they'd be weird with the little pages and shit. It's like to be a lot of police shit. You watched the YouTube documentaries about you and shit? Yeah, like the West Side Gang stories and shit.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like, I don't know. I don't, uh... It's the words. I don't fuck with niggas. He said, I don't condone. None of that shit. Yeah, I respect. that he's doing this thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Everybody got their own way to make a way. I can't knock it, but I don't really fuck with the thing. Blood trying to get niggins and shit. Man, because it's like, bro, how do you know this? What are you doing? And then it's, it don't even make it better. The suckers, the suckers hopping on that shit and promoting that shit. But that shit ain't cool, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Like, I'm on gang enhancements, bro. Like, I got real shit going on. Frags. I'm not fin to play with these. He's making that shit for YouTube content and shit. You feel me? Even the suckers, like, nigga try to keep this shit gangster. And niggas that go to Instagram.
Starting point is 00:33:53 We pop in and niggas are posted. Niggas get the video, do YouTube videos, like. And the police watch all that shit, bro. I'm really on gang enhancements and shit, bro. Y'all trying to get a nigga violated. Like, you feel me? That's the fuck. You knick's weird, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:06 On Blug's. Niggas weird. I don't fuck with none of that shit, though. Some of that shit be, I'll be watching some of that shit, though. You ever seen the Swamp Story shit? Yeah, blah. He's weird. He'd be lying and shit.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Nah, he, he's real accurate. I'm trying to find out. He's dangerous. I always wanted to ask a nigga that I'm like, how accurate? He'd be capping, though, bro. I'm like, like how he'd be disrespecting, niggas when they passed and he'd be like the bow shit. That's disrespectful, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He, like, the shit he said about my pop's like, bro, that nigga cat, bro, like, I never got robbed. He was like, he made the little swam stories. He said, I got robbed or whatever the case may be. Niggas ain't even fin to get into that. He, he, he's real accurate. He's dangerous. Whoever he is, he's a dangerous, man.
Starting point is 00:34:48 If you were here, do you think he should reveal who he is? Hell yeah. No. That's gonna be over with. You know some people that might want to be over with. want to pay him a visit. Somebody might want to trick or treat on his porch on Halloween. He has told me that he wants to come on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And it's kind of a weird feeling because it's like, I would love if you did that. Is he going to wear a mask? But also, I don't think you should do that. Yeah, he might as well just be on some movie shit and never reveal it. Yeah, rock the mask for sure. Yeah, for sure, because I don't fuck with blood. I watch it, though. He get my view into like every time.
Starting point is 00:35:18 That's a fact. Because the nigga, he's like, how do you want this? Yeah, he's good entertainment. But that shit like, bro, come on, bro. You think he's white? I think so I think he's Asian Asian
Starting point is 00:35:27 Because them motherfuckers Go do research They do good research No weird shit to the Asians bro They do good research You all fuck with the Asian community But bro
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah the mcgues They got My Asian niggas got shit Oh I'm glad you said that My Asian niggas got shit Stockton got a big Asian community right Hell yeah
Starting point is 00:35:46 How I feel growing up around Hella like you know in L.A I ain't really around no Asians Ah you didn't just niggas I don't really fucking niggas Nah So didn't Them your opposites type shit.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That ain't the ops though. We funk with Asians, though. Mm-hmm. Them niggas know what's up. That mrs. So would you say that there's like a big, like racial divide in Stockton though? Shit, bro. I don't, I wouldn't, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I ain't biased to no race, bro. I be with all Mexicans. I grew up with all Mexicans, literally in Crow Valley. For me, I'm from Ninegill, but I grew up in Crow Valley. How far is that from Stockton? Crow Valley? Yeah. It's in Stockton.
Starting point is 00:36:23 It's in the South. Okay, so that's like a little subsection type shit. Yeah, it's not like driving it's closed, but if you walk and you're looking at like 20 minutes or something. Okay. But it's all in the south though. You feel me? But it's the southeast though. That's where I really grew up.
Starting point is 00:36:36 You feel me? I grew up in Crow Valley, but my granny lived in Nightingale. Is it just me or you're the only West Coast rapper who has a shag? Hell no. Who else go? Look, that's a Bay Area thing besides Texas. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah. That's a Bay Area shit. From my knowledge, you feel me? I only see Texas rappers with it. Because you don't be noticing. I feel like it's a big. I feel like it's a Stockton thing now, though. But it didn't slow-be-ion?
Starting point is 00:36:57 It's some first-co shit, yeah. Slob-all-old, dude. Yeah, some first-back. Yeah, nah, that's definitely Northern California for sure. They be hip to the shags. I don't know, the first time I think I've seen it was like Dallas or Texas. But now, when I went to the Bay for show, Shag Central. You still got one right now?
Starting point is 00:37:15 You just got it tucked? Yeah. You growing your shit? Yep, I'm going to grow my shit out, bro. I got to get a hair cut. I ain't going on. Can we speak out? You got one such you got out?
Starting point is 00:37:25 I had you. I ain't going to lie. Nigger's seen his face. I'm like, I know he over there mad as fuck. Bigger had you. And no disrespect to blood because I didn't even do nothing to you when you left the room. But on my mama blood, fuck my own shit up, though. My mama, no disrespect to blood or not to know. But my mama, I wanted to take it there with blood, though.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He knew, though. What, the barber fucked you up? Bro, nigga, fresh out. He did the little, uh, the little paint shit. I don't like that shit in my head. here. He did the pain shit. So when I seen it, it was cool. I'm just like, bro, I'm for the white shit. So I got in shower, wash it off thinking my shit for me clean when I got out and I got out to shower. But my shit was fucked up.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Nick only did that shit to repair like a nigga fuck up and then spray your shit because he fucked up. Like, nigga, fix my shit, nigga. You can't do a nigga fresh shot like that. You're not talking about the white line thing? No, not the white line. The black paint. That's next level shit. The chalk. He's talking about like the spray. It's called enhancement. You fuck with that white line? They're like, no. That chalk shit not it. I ain't none of that.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Just give me line up in the taper, bro. Yeah, no disrespect. But, like, I see people doing it like before the awards show, before the music video. Like, they clearly doing it on purpose so that they can pull up to the shit with the white shit still there. That started as when you in the barber chair, they put the chalk girp on your shit to line it up. The niggas leaving the chair with it. Hey, who won't blood that be getting that everybody hella foul on here, bro? I like him.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Why he ain't here? Flacco? I think so. That's his man's. Who? Who? Who, the African? A little fast short, nigga?
Starting point is 00:38:57 Oh, he got the cut, bro. Is that no jet, bro? Oh, Sharp. Sharp. He got the cut. Sharp's talking about you, feel me slick back hair? Yeah, Sharp. That's my nigga Sharp.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I like him. Yeah, nigga. He, I like him. He's good crazy. Did you ever sell some pussy? What? You know, negotiate the sale of the pussy. Like, officiate the sale of the pussy.
Starting point is 00:39:20 What? No. No. No. No. No. He used to be a pimp. Back in the day.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Oh, back in the day. Maybe I should have just said that, yeah. Yeah, because he said some pussy, you're like, I don't got one of those. I don't get in the, I don't get into no illegal activities, bro, but if a bitch We law Biden citizens. Hey, the bitch want to tap in and ain't no BFEs. What's what I said like that? I shouldn't have said it like that.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Ain't no BFEs and none of that, though. Bish could tap in those DMs. Oh, all right. That's right. You feel me? We love Biden citizens, but if you would like to, DM, hop in a DM. For sure. But if you're looking like for a boyfriend or something like that
Starting point is 00:39:54 I'm not for it. It's not here. It might be somewhere around the campaign, but I don't know. All right. So you can't have a girlfriend right now at this point in your life or what? It's not going to happen. That's right. Because it's like I look at it like this, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:08 It's hard when you already somebody because it's like, what you really here for? How do I really know? If you wasn't here before the start? I got a bitch though. I don't got no girlfriend though. That's right. He said, I got a girl, but she ain't my girlfriend. What's the definition of a bitch?
Starting point is 00:40:21 in that sense. Like, you keep her around? Let me, let me break it down because not even a bitch, bro. You feel me? I just talk like that. It's airy bitch not a bitch. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:40:31 I just stop myself from calling my girl that. Is this not disrespectful. Airy female is not a bitch, bro. You feel me? It's women out there and then it's bitches. Right. You feel me? This is just hot talk.
Starting point is 00:40:43 But if a bitch carry yourself like a woman, you feel me, that's how she's going to get treated. She's going to get you treated like a woman. But you carry yourself like a bitch. You're going to be a thousand bitches every day. Is every prostitute a bitch? Hmm. Look.
Starting point is 00:40:55 At a, at a, at a time. I feel like, I feel like, la, la, la, la, look. Like, what do you mean by that? I feel like sometimes you got to treat a prostitute like a queen and sometimes you got to treat a queen like a prostitute. Just because the bitch, a prostitute don't mean she any less of a woman. So I'm saying. That's game.
Starting point is 00:41:12 That's facts. You feel me? I can respect the bitch even more that go out there and want to risk her life. Her body on the line and her life on a line just to make sure that whoever she's doing it for is good. You ever read his Instagram story? He clowns girls who haven't sold pussy. Yeah. Why are you putting that on me like that?
Starting point is 00:41:28 That's crazy. Yeah, that's, I don't know what he's talking about, but look, no kids. Unless she moms or something. Yeah, he clowns dudes whose girls never sold pussy.
Starting point is 00:41:36 No, I feel like, I gotta clear that up. If you're in the game, if you're in the game and you got three kids by a female who ain't never sold no catcher square as hell, hang it up, nicka.
Starting point is 00:41:47 But if you're a citizen and you just doing your thing, you feel, You feel me? You know. If you're in the game, you can't be nah, bro. But you feel me? You know what I'm saying? Look, I'm ready for this game. That's all I'm saying. It's a crazy game. You feel me? If you're in the game, bro, you know. You feel me? You just out here having babies with, you know what I'm saying? Just frivolously, that's pretty square if you ask me. Yeah, yeah, but but then again, niggas miss pimped though. It ain't nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:12 That's just facts. Everybody, there ain't no such thing. It's not pimping, bro. You got a pep. You got a pimp to miss pimp. What's miss pimp? Miss pimp and you doing something wrong. Doing something wrong. It ain't no sex. thing is you wasn't pimping. You go to jail for miss pimping. That's a fact. Not because you not pimping. No, you was miss pimping. That's a fact. So you went to jail for pimping and bandering or whatever you went down for. Damn. That's a fact. So what are you doing now to make sure you don't get locked up again? How are you moving? Man, I'm a father now. You feel
Starting point is 00:42:37 me? That's right. Shout out up. You feel me? I know. I know. Law Biden citizens. Father now. Good guy. Nice guy. That's a right. I'm a father now, bro. I ain't, I ain't when you got out was the first time you saw your baby? How that felt? Bro, it was amazing. I'm on bloods. That's right. Took some pictures and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I just don't be wanting to post him and shit because you know how that goes. It gets tricky. Yeah, you know, I do my shit in the close friends, though, with the homies that's in there and shit. But other than that, you know, people are going to have him on fake pages.
Starting point is 00:43:07 That's crazy. Yeah, sure and so don't need. That shit, bro. You violate that nigga safety and shit, bro. Like, I'm not Drake yet. I can't pay for full-scale security for the whole fam.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Nigel, we're moving militant. Exactly. You feel me? That's the thing Drake's saying his mom's on that's security. in the Yadi interview they did. That's insane. Drake Mama and I ain't going to lie. If you were Somalian,
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'll go kidnap that Nick of Drake Mama. Yadi asking Drake... If you were kidnapping people and shit? Like Yaddy was asking Drake if he feels like anyone would ever do anything to his mom. I was kind of like, bro, I would have edited this out. Like, I don't feel like even put that out there
Starting point is 00:43:40 into the universe. Yeah, that's weird. Just don't even acknowledge that that that could have. Facts. But nah, bro, I feel like prepare for the worst, but pray for the best, nigga. Hope everything go right. prepare for everything to go wrong.
Starting point is 00:43:54 You feel me? No cap. What are you saying? He just read the membervillian shit. He's in there. He's soaking it in. How many interviews you did to? Like only a couple?
Starting point is 00:44:06 He said one. And this is your first one since you've been out for show, right? That's my first one since I've been out, bro. Yeah. Been where I've been in studios and shit fucking around. And there's no jumper is crazy because bro had hit me in 2018, nigger. I didn't see that shit.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I double back. I'm like, this knick is viral. Yeah, bro. I'm like, that's crazy. All that shit. Yeah, you was listening to the nigger's shit back in the... That's my nigger. That's viral.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Not a nigger going crazy. Yeah, everybody was listening to that shit, though, bro. That's fire. What's your plan for dropping your music? You can you drop a project soon? You're dropping all the videos? Yeah, I got an album. My album ready.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I recorded my album in a day. You signed? No, I ain't signed to nobody, bro. I'm an outstanding member. But they gotta have offers out for you, right? Right. Man, this nigger gotta be a high commodity right now. They're trying to grab a nigger right now, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But they- You shopping? Uh, something like that, bro. That's right. I really ain't, bro. I'm booing. You good. I'm gonna get into it, bro, but I'm still trying to just, like, get into being home right now. You're right.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm still adjusting. So, like, the label's tapping in. I got my mom's handling everything right now and shit, but it's like, I'm really not even worried about that because I'm gonna make my money regardless. That's the fact, nigga, you viral on your own. And that's good that you did that though. though, jail might have been a hell of blessing, bro, because you raised your stock. I always tell, niggas, when you go to a deal with no leverage, you're fin to get a shit deal.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Your leverage is crazy right now. Crazy. You could for sure shop around for the highest bidder, nigga, and go crazy. Yeah, bro, I'm trying to see what's up, though. We're going to see what's up. Right now, though, I got my YouTube going crazy. That's right. And you own all your shit, huh?
Starting point is 00:45:42 So you eating. Bro, come on. He's eating. That's right. What's the most shit remaining in the month? 50. That's fire. You're just getting started.
Starting point is 00:45:57 What you went? What was your first big purchase, nigga with a big rap check? That you can't say nothing too crazy because I know how niggas get. I didn't know. A break? No.
Starting point is 00:46:08 No. Sorry. Just no. What's your first big purchase? That wasn't illegal. Everything illegal? Nigger. Car clothes.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Come on. Something, nigga. I love it. This is a mere store. Criminal. Criminal. This nigga said. Bro, because the nigga came, oh, that's my designer and shit.
Starting point is 00:46:31 You feel me? What was your, like, big purchase with you? It was like, damn, I really did some shit right now. Yeah, a nigga out the house and shit. That's right. Regular, like, regular shit to make sure a nigga gonna be good. But as far as, like, materialistic things, like. You don't really be giving the fuck about that kind of shit?
Starting point is 00:46:47 I don't care, honestly. But you moved up out of Stockton, right? Yeah, I'm from Stockton. No, but you said moved out of there. Yeah, I'm gone. That's right. Gotta move out your city, bro. ain't going to prosper in stocking.
Starting point is 00:46:57 That's a fact. They hate a nigga out there, though. They don't want to see a nigga win. But it's crazy, they slap it, though. Are you able to be, like, pretty low-key where you're at now? For sure, nigga out of the way. Gotta be.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Got to be. Got it the way, bro. You know, niggas is dying. This is a fact. It's hot right now, bro, for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of shit going on. All right, so what's the game plan? You got any questions?
Starting point is 00:47:20 Anything left? No, we? We covered everything? Yeah, we touched it. Yeah, my nigga doing this thing right now. Going crazy, nigga. No cat. Did you already drop that video that you previewed?
Starting point is 00:47:31 You ain't dropped yet? I dropped accidental smoke, and then I got the little love song shit coming out, bro. That shit gonna probably go crazy, bro. I got some rattles. That's right. I just made some shit yesterday. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Phenomenal. And then you got all your shit. You independent, nigga. You're in a real good position right now, nigga. I know, for sure, for sure. Man, that's a blessing, nigga. Keep that shit going, bro. For sure, casino world.
Starting point is 00:47:56 all that. Sure. All right. Appreciate you, man. Very happy to have you in here. Thank you, suspect. You already know? Everybody out there,
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