No Jumper - Enchanting on Signing to Gucci, Why She Prefers to Date a Shooter, Cheating & More

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

Enchanting talks about signing a deal, getting her 1017 chain, personal growth, taking her music to the next level and more. ------ 00:00 Intro 1:58 Adam discusses smoking a joint with blow laced inside of it 2:26 Enchanting discusses her relationship with Kaliii and Adam asks if girls pay each other for features 5:22 Enchanting talks about growing up in the Country in Fort Worth as opposed to city life in Los Angeles and says LA food is nasty 9:03 Enchanting speaks on being born in Germany, having military parents, and moving all over America 11:00 Gatorade incident 13:20 Enchanting on singing before she started rapping, meeting Gucci Mane, and how he discovered her 16:50 Enchanting gives details on signing her contract and getting her 1017 chain during the pandemic 19:20 Adam asks Enchanting how it felt being a woman in the 1017 crew 21:03 Enchanting speaks on keeping her relationships private 23:20 Enchanting ex partners getting caught cheating 26:13 Enchanting talks about her type in men and says she feels safe dating a shooter 28:30 Adam asks Enchanting what changes in her life she's made after turning 25, Enchanting says she’s maturing and not fighting as much 29:50 Enchanting talks about her previous g*n charge after getting pulled over leaving a show 35:20 Enchanting speaks on going in the studio after graduating from cosmetology school, making a mixtape and taking e for the first time 40:50 Enchanting talks about being late to her flight twice and losing friends who are going to jail 42:11 Enchanting on making music that men listen to and not making songs about popping cooch and not doing much "girly shit" 45:04 Enchanting and Adam talk about having kids and friends only seeing the fun parts of having a kid 49:35 Adam talks about Gucci Mane and Enchanting having a lot of songs together and working with other female rappers 53:02 Enchanting and Adam discuss losing her best friend, says she stopped going to funerals after a while ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today I'm in here with 1017's very own enchanting. Yeah. What's going on? It's a good name. Thank you. I like it.

Thank you. I like a nice adjective for a name. Let me put my phone on mute. Oh, that would be great. Okay. Damn, you got the big spliff on deck, huh? Tell me. What do you put in there besides just weed?

That's it. Oh, so it's not a split, okay. Yeah, no. Would you be putting stuff in your weed? Yeah, you got to put tobacco in there too. Like the little broken up pieces. What's the top? Fronto.

You know what I'm. Yeah, like it's in like the little jars. Yeah, they got that. We just use regular like cigarette tobacco. That's why I'm trying to stop. Now that's crazy. You think that's crazy? Yeah, you put that in a blunt or you put that in paper.

Because the blunt is the tobacco. Okay. It's just like a way to smoke a split. a joint, but to have the tobacco in there. Because for me personally, you just need something to sort of glide the smoke down there. Like, just the plain weed. I don't know. It's not for me.

Yeah, I agree. That's why I smoke blunts. It's a blunt and they got a paper around it. Oh, you do that too. Oh, see, that's crazy because I had some guy in here doing that the other day and I was making fun of him for having like the strongest lungs and how I couldn't do that. For real? You know a little girl telling me to do that. That's like the same shit that you're doing.

You're just breaking it out. Yeah, but there's something about, like, wrapping a bunch of papers around the blunt, but to me is like, okay, how much paper do I need to be taking in here, paper slash tobacco wrap? Yeah. You basically doing the same. But I feel like them blunts hit worse. Like, I hit one of them, and I was like, oh, okay. What kind?

Like a blunt, but they had the hair of the fonto. You ever hit the blunt and you can just tell this. it? No. I never hit Willa now. I've had that happen. I'm scared. And it was like I was young enough that I didn't know what I was tasting. But the way I was running around the room right after, I knew that something was up. Oh. So you got laced.

Well, it wasn't all that like non-consensual. Like as soon as I realized, I was, I was down. It was a very different time in my life. I feel you. Yeah. I'm not judging. It is for a bit. Man, I was like showing your video. to my girl last night when I was getting ready for my interview because I had like two dudes to get ready for and then you and I know she's just like infinitely more interested in whatever the girls got going on than any kind of dude and I was just like looking up at the image of you and Cali in the video together yeah and I love Cali I was just like babe how hot is this duo that's where everybody be seen like wow that's a killer duo not to be weird or anything and I took the wrist though I told me My girl, look with this hot duo, and she agreed with it. Because if she didn't think y'all are a hot duo, I might have been sleeping outside.

No, yeah, on the couch. Or the couch. Yes, I love Kelly, like, real bad. Really? How do you know her? I don't know much about her, to be honest. Through, like, social media. And then we, like, DM each other, followed each other.

And then we linked up, and we did a whole bunch of songs. See, I was thinking that when I was watching how much of your features with other girls last night, I was like, do girls pay each other for features? Do they just do it off of girl power? Girls have paid me for a feature. I feel like girls pay each other for features, but like, I don't know. It's hard to explain, like,

a lot of girl artists that are like mutually popping, you know, like in the same kind of... Bracket. Yeah, they link up and just do shit. And that's when rappers in general start hating each other is when somebody asks one of them to pay and they realize like, oh, he thinks I'm in this bracket, but actually I think I'm in this bracket.

Yeah. So then that's when the whole, like, ego shit comes about, and, you know, it just goes, hey, wire. Yeah. You've had that happen? I have never really tried to, you know, I haven't had that happen yet. You only work off people you really got energy with?

Yeah. I'd rather do shit like that, you know? Because if I'm paying you for a feature, then it's like, yeah, you're going to do it, but you're not doing it because, you see the vision or you fuck the song, you know, you're doing it because I'm paying. You're hoping that they're going to like you for real. Yeah.

It's like getting a prostitute. Exactly. It's like, I'm fucking you for money, but I also am hoping that you're going to like it so much you want to marry me. You know? But sometimes it just don't be that. Yeah. But sometimes it does. Because who was it?

I feel like a Dolf paid Gucci for a feature and then Gucci just signed them. it might not it might be somebody else but like that's gonna really happen yeah that's right I know a few people that have paid for like big features and stuff

and then they ended up like being real cool with that person right yeah I mean I'll be cool with you if you give me like $100,000 hell yeah

me too we're friends I'm just gonna move to see you're gonna have to bend over or whatever okay so you're coming out of Fort Worth what's it like out there

country real country Yeah, red country I fuck with it though It's like, it's cool It's it's southern It's, you know It's real southern

Right Hospitality, you know It's different Than being up here Right What's your impression Of what it's like out here? It's like a lot of different

Fives out here Like Right I don't The people are kind of strange Well because every Fake person in the world comes here. Like if you want to make it in Hollywood or music, whatever, you kind of got to come here.

So, yeah, you do have, like, cool down-earth people, but then you also have a shillot of people who are pretty much just here to chase their dreams and use you to get wherever they're trying to go. Yeah. And y'all feel real nasty. Our food, really? Real nasty. What are you trying to eat that we don't really got? Something seasoned. Oh, we got seasoning, right? This might not be enough of it. Shit. Where is it at? Because the restaurants

I ain't used to me. Where'd you go? I ate, what that shit called? Bacanova. Oh, I love Bossa Nova. I don't like that. Get the skirt steak.

Oh. Really? I got like some salmon pasta. Like Alfredo or some shit. Mm-mm. It was nasty. But see, you've been like pre-conditioned

to basically expect food that probably has you know, five sticks of butter per plate of pasta, cheese, a whole jar of salt. Down in Texas, they're basically like, hey, like, we're going to give you heart disease. Come on in. It tastes good. So shit.

It might be unhealthy, but it's fine. But that's, yeah, what I'd be feeling like, y'all food just tastes healthy. Oh, well, I mean, you're also talking about a place where a huge percentage of people, like, way more than any other part of the country, are super concerned with their body. Yeah. Not just because it's like so competitive, but also because of like, you know, TV, modeling, movies. People are very conscious, you know?

It's a lot of vegan shit out here and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't fuck with that. Give me like a chicken breast and four cubes of broccoli. Exactly. I can't eat no vegan shit. I tried vegan pizza one time. You didn't like it? Hell no.

No. It was like obviously like some kind of fake-ass cheese like, then the impossible meat. No. It just wasn't my cup of tea, but you know. To me, everything that is non-animal on the plate is basically to make each bite of the animal tastes good.

Yeah, like, it's just like to give it a little razzle dazzle, I feel like. You know, like the sides is for the razzle dazzle. That's not supposed to be the whole meal. It's like, if you have just like a cube, I keep you saying cube, if you have a cube of chicken, but then you got a little sweet potato.

You know, a little... You know, mac of cheese. Just one little kernel for the bite to just spice it up. That's where I'm at. That's why Thanksgiving is my favorite because on Thanksgiving, you just have so many good flavor. You need to make the best bites. It's so far. Like, you got to get a little bit of everything on the bite.

That's how I eat my Thanksgiving plate. That's real. You know, you need a little bit of everything. Do you still spend most of your time in Texas, though? I wouldn't say most of my time. I live in Atlanta now. I spend most of my time in Atlanta. But I spend most of my time in Atlanta.

But I go to Texas often. And the food's pretty good in Atlanta? Mm-hmm. I don't know why we're making this all about food, but. I grew up in Atlanta, too, so I'm accustomed to both. Oh, okay. So you were bouncing around back and forth? How come?

It's like I stayed in Atlanta where I was born in Germany, so I stayed in Germany. Yeah, until I was probably like three. Military parents or what? My dad's in the army. Usually it's military parents when someone tells me that they were born in some random part of Europe. Yeah, it's like. people would be like what the hell they don't be believing me when I say that but yes

and then I moved to Atlanta and I stayed in Atlanta from like three till I was probably like 12 13 then I moved to Texas but you feel like you're from Texas because that's where you I feel like a lot of people ask like when you tell them where you're from they ask where you graduated from

you know so when I kept getting that question and you know I was saying that I was from Georgia, they're like, well, you're damn there. You're basically from Texas. It's so simple for people who just, like, were born in one place and grew up their whole life there. Like, people like that.

People want a nice simple origin story. I'm cool with, you know, my story being from multiple places. It's cool. Because people always think I'm from out here. And I'm like, I'm from the most irrelevant state, New Hampshire. And then I live in New York City. I haven't been there. Right.

You probably throughout your rap career and never, We'll go there, realistically. I don't want to go, though. Yeah. Why? The fucking juice. It spilled. Been wasting on me this whole time.

I felt like my booty was cold, but I thought I was tweaking. Like a lot or like a little bit? I mean, it was full. It was full. It was full. Damn. It's got a lot of pissed on myself. That's crazy.

Mikey's going to try to dip in here and paper towel this if that's. Y'all, I'm like, damn, my booty feel a little cold. Don't get too handsy or anything, bud. Look, he's nervous. Oh, I think we're going to. I was like, this might look a little weird. Yeah. That's crazy.

Damn, that blue Gatorade will get you. That's fucked up. And when you said the juice spilled, I was like, damn, is she going to pull out a pint? Is it going to stain? Think my ass going to be blue? I mean, if you wash it, I think you might be all right. It definitely might be blue for...

Outside already. Shit. I'm going to go give some new fucking pants. Damn, I wonder if we got any sweatpants for it. Probably not. Yeah, go ask Jason. That would be so cool if we just... Oh, gosh.

And she just switched into a no jumper fit. No cap. That's crazy. Okay. And you still haven't properly captured Gatorid? That's fucked up. I'm going to drink it. Fuck that.

He's still a little slit there. Okay. So... What kind of She's still rubbing it What was your upbringing like though Like you have both parents around Well yeah you did at first at least

I did it at first year And then they divorced What age? Probably like I want to say like I was probably like 13 Can you just pull the mic in one? 13 something like that I need the lighter

You do need a lighter Here you go Oh it's right here Oh you have that lighter Wow wow That's the extend lighter. It's fine. I need one of these.

Yeah. What fuck you get that from? They're going to be on sale soon. Ooh. We made him. That's wrong. Like it? Yes.

I don't think we can advertise it on like any social media platform because it looks like an extended clip. Probably like you can definitely on Twitter. But there's like an attachment that's like a plastic gun that goes on to it too, which I think might also be a problem. Oh, I need that. Yeah. See, I mean, I was like, I watched some of your, like, softer stuff at first. Mm-hmm. And then I'm like, oh, she has songs with Poo Shikistee.

Okay. Let's see how she sounds with these guys. Yeah. And I was a little taken aback. It's like two different. Yeah. Damn, I could fit in one side of that. He found a random pair of gym shorts.

Those look like they would be big on me. Uh, but yeah, so musically, where were you at, like, when you were young? or when you first started making music, what came first? I made only R&B music, like singing songs. I didn't always make R&B songs, but I made singing songs. Okay.

Like, I would talk about like the same kind of shit that I rap about, but I would sing about it. And then being signed a Gucci, I just got into raping. You weren't rapping before you signed. He signed you all off the singing. Yeah. Wow, that's something interesting. I had out like four R&B projects.

projects. Wow, that's so interesting because I don't know if he's ever signed anybody who made that kind of music, right? No. That's crazy, right? Definitely. So how far had you taken it in terms of pushing your own music career before you got in touch with Gucci? Like, how big were you? I had like, I already had me a little blue check. I had like 200K followers off of me just, you know, building my shit. Yeah. I was, I did well in enough to be able to not work no more and just live off of streams. So, you know, I was doing pretty good. And so how did you end up getting in touch with Gouac?

Through Jay White. He's a producer from Dallas. Okay. He hit Gucci ever about you? Him and Gucci are like cool. They're real cool or whatever. Okay. And Gucci was looking for artists.

And me and Jay White had just did like some songs, probably like four songs. And he was like, you know, he had like a long conversation with me. Like, was I ready to take my music to the next level and take it serious for real? And, you know, I really do this shit. And I was like, yeah, you know, I'm ready. And then he was like, okay, I'm going to send y'all shit to some people. And then, like, multiple people was interested. Like, other label tried to sign me at the same time as Gucci.

And I was like, Lord, I was stressed. Like, he told me that. Then he caught me back like one day later And he was like, yeah Gucci went to sign you He was like, well, how would you feel about signing Gucci? He didn't tell me Gucci He didn't tell me Gucci

He was like, how would you feel about Like being signing Gucci And I was like, you know, that'll be crazy You know, that'll be raw I love Gucci Had you even thought about signing to another artist? No, for real, never But he said Gucci

And I was always like obsessed With Gucci growing up So I was like, hell yeah And I was like, be wrong. And then he was like, okay, you know, like he didn't really make it seem like, you know, it was a thing. And then the next day, Gucci texted my phone. And he was like, this Gucci, you want to sign to 1017? And I was like, what the fuck? Who the fuck playing on my damn phone? Wow. Yeah, so I called him. I was like, yeah, I called the number. And it was

definitely Gucci. He started talking. And I was like, oh, okay. Wow. I never thought he was going to sign on another girl after Asian doll. I didn't either, really, you know? That kind of went. Hey, war. Yeah. But they didn't, like, publicly beef, right? Mm-hmm.

In that era, there was some other artists that he signed that basically signed. Things weren't going that great, and they dissed him, and I never seen anybody get cut faster than that. Yeah. He was not playing with that. Yeah, Gucci don't play that shit. Right. But so then you go link up with them before you decided to sign.

sign or how did you approach that? Well, after we had the conversation or whatever, he was like, send me basically Y'all Adi and I'm a senior over, I'm going to get my lawyer to send you over contract today. And then they sent me a contract like some hours later. And of course, you know, I had a lawyer to read over a contract, whatever. It took a couple days and then I signed the damn contract. and then I had flew to Atlanta to meet Wafi and I got my damn jury

and then boom then I met Gucci in Miami And that was the very beginning of the pandemic When you signed? Yeah How'd you meet him in Miami? At a studio He had

That's when I met everybody Like all the artists was there Oh really? Poo, food So this was like Prime 1017 The new 1017 when everybody was still free. That was like an era.

Right. Like that was a time. Yeah. Because that's always the thing that like people say at least recently is like, damn, Gucci keeps sounding all these fire ass artists, but then a bunch of them just get locked up soon after or other bad things happen. But it's like, it's not Gucci fault. He just, he sees like, I feel like he'd be seeing himself and a lot of his artists, you know,

and he genuinely fucks with him. So it's like he'd be going to give them a chance, you know, even though eyes be against them, you know? So he can't help that, you know? He's not signed an artist. They still tend to get into the shit. He's not signed artists who are all that different from the way he was when he was young and wow. So actually from what I've heard is he was a lot worse during his youth than a lot of the people he's signed. Like he was just the craziest dude.

A menace. He's changed a lot, I believe. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, damn, so what was that energy like? And who did you kind of gravitate towards once you were around everybody? Scar. Yeah.

Like, we was like coolest hell after it. And then we just started being with each other every day. Like, I don't know where. Really? Yeah, you know. Because I noticed him in some of your videos. Just kind of, he was just there. Randomly in my videos.

He wasn't like trying to be all up in the shot. Because he would be there, like, for real, at my video shoot with me on some shit. And they'll be like, Scar, come get the video. Right. You know, when he was really just their support. So is it, okay, you're going into that environment. You got all these, like, hot young rappers. They got cool jewelry.

They got money. You're an attractive young rapper coming into this scenario. Is anybody shooting their shot or how does that work? No. No? You think they just got too much respect for the music relationship? I feel like, I don't know. Yeah.

And I'm more like, I don't know, like, I'm one of the guys. They, you saw, the boys that are always taking me to go do crazy shit with them. Like what? Like, wow shit, you know? Don't let me guess some shit. Some crazy shit. Like, I'll go with them to their shows. Hey, Enchanting, let's go slide on the ops.

You know, maybe. Oh, my God, you don't want to admit that. You know, if that was ever the case, you know, they know that I would, you know. You don't want to do that. I would. You're a young lady. Somebody's got to hold the fort down if one of them gets locked up. Yeah, but, yeah.

I'm not the one to hold it down. You got to get the other girl that. Really? Yeah. I'm going to be with the shit. Mm. Definitely. But I mean, just being a woman, being a rapper, being signed.

to a rapper, et cetera. Yeah. Are you, like, super aware at all times that anything you do dating-wise or whatever is just going to be over-scrutinized by the public so much? Hell yeah. That's aggravating. But it is what it is. You know?

But, yeah, that's a lot. So that's why I'd be low-key. I'd be chilling. Nobody I don't know what the fuck If you meet a guy and he's like in the rap game or whatever You tell him Listen You tell anybody

About what we did in this hotel room tonight Oh my God Yeah I don't throw him like that No But discretion is very much appreciated You know In your position for sure Yeah for sure

Definitely Just because like It's just going to start being real political too much yeah because it's one thing to be spending time with somebody

and we all know that it's it's hard to find somebody that you're really genuinely get along with in the first place on like a relationship type level but then as soon as you have the peanut gallery commenting and saying

hey she used to date this guy and hey he used to do this yeah I mean God this makes it so complicated right? Yes for show

have you had a boyfriend in the last couple years yeah One long-term boyfriend or just a little here and there? Yeah, I had a boyfriend. It didn't work out. We broke up. How come?

He was wild. He was hoeing. You know, he was being a real slut and that's crazy. Right. Like, the fuck? How ain't gonna date me and be a slut? Right. You can't do that.

And people knew you were dating. Yes. And that's what aggravated be the most Because you're embarrassing me Right They're gonna think I just You know, let my hole do anything And this ain't that

Yeah, I remember having that realization Of like, oh, you can't cheat on your girl Because she's popping enough That these bitches are all gonna tell Yeah And that's exactly That was a situation You know?

He got a snitch time So it was a good lesson to learn Good lesson to learn Maybe I didn't learn it for the right reason but you know it's a good lesson so you've never cheated I mean I have I have one time I got caught you

red-handed how oh my god I was stressed out so boom I had this home girl and I guess she was hating on me at the time of some right because I was with the person I was cheating with right boom

who was at my house We're chilling, you know, or whatever. The nigger that I was fucking with, this nigga showed up at my house. And he was knocking or whatever. And the bitch came to my dome and she was like, so-and-so at the door. And I was like, bitch, don't let him in. The fuck. Why the fuck would you come tell me that, you know?

While I'm... Right. Obviously, gee. You know what I mean? Shit. don't come tell me that so yeah I'm like don't let them in whatever she walk away

why okay so this is going on the dude I guess you know he kind of peeped at some she of course he overheard that the niggas after door or whatever so he like he was getting up leaving or whatever so he's leaving out

and this bitch let's a nigga in so but I'm I didn't know that he was in the house at this time. I'm in the restroom. Like, I was just in the restroom. I like being in the restroom. Shit.

I go sit in the restroom sometimes, you know? When I be stressed out, I just sit in the restroom. I go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom. Staying there for like two, three more minutes. Being there by myself. I was in there for a second. So this nigga busts in the restroom. And I was like, oh, shit.

Caught right-handed. And he was like, bitch, what the fuck is you doing? And I was like, huh? Like, I was just acting so confused. And he was like, that's all you got to say, breathed up. Like, that's sad. And he's seen the dude in the other room?

He's seen the dude leaving out of the house. He didn't attack him or you? I'm surprised. I mean, that's just worst case scenario, right? I mean, I thought I was going to get my ass beat. Right. For sure. But I begged and pleaded.

To just get the fuck out, leave me alone? I begged and plead it. Don't beat me up. going out. Right. You know, you'd be pulling to, you'd be cheating too. Yeah, man, I'm totally against hidden women. But I feel like a decent percentage of dudes might do it

in that moment, right? Oh, for sure. It's like you asking for a ass woman. Well, let's not say that. Asking for it. That's kind of, like, victim-lameish. Okay, we're not going to say that. We didn't ask for no assholes. But, you know, provoking it a little bit. Right.

Damn, what kind of guys do you go for? I feel like I do have like a type conduct. I like villains. Villains. Villains. Yeah, that's one of my questions I wrote down. You rap about carrying guns and liking guys with bodies. I do.

I like that. I feel safe with a killer. Really? Mm-hmm. What is the safe part, though? You know the feds could come pick them up at any time. That's the fucked up part, though. The ops are going to come and get revenge.

No, fuck no. I always got to be, I can't fuck with the nigger whose ops is up on them. You got to be up on the ops. You got to be up on the scoreboard. Right. I can't fuck with a loser of the op war. But you said that it makes you feel safe. I feel like a foot locker manager or a hedge fund portfolio manager, that's safe.

Nobody's going to try to kill them. Some of those guys worth millions of dollars, they got a $100,000 watch. Nobody's trying to kill them. Not that type of safe. Not that type of save. It got to be like, I like to be, I got to be scared of you a little bit. Really? Because I'm rough.

And if I'm not scared of you, I'll put my hands on you. Right. So, like, there's always these clips that go viral of podcasters, basically, like, asking women, like, would you rather date, you know, a guy with a normal career? Would you rather date a drug dealer? And, like, inevitably, there's one girl who says, oh, I'd rather day a drug dealer. And then they use this as proof of, look how fucked up modern. Women are. Look at how wrong this mentality is.

This is why young dudes are out here doing all this dumb shit. No, it's like, I don't know. Maybe my generation of the people, the niggas to pick from, you know, a lot of them have fucking charges and shit. Yeah, I mean, that's just, shit. I don't know. Or maybe I'm in the wrong demographic. How old are? 25.

25. So you've had a little bit of experience, but you're not fully. I feel like once you hit 30 things kind of change, maybe. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I've been feeling like since I've turned 25, I feel like I'm too grown for a lot of shit. Like dating killers? Or no, that's still up for grabs.

That's still up for grabs. You know, that's still up for grabs. Right. What's changing about you now at 25? I feel like I've been maturing a lot, like a lot of shit I won't do. Like, I used to be so like, ready to pull up and fight bitches and shit like that. Like, I'm too wrong that. I'm not pulling up and fighting with no bitch.

Right. I'm not doing that. Yeah, that's a waste of time. Yeah, that is definitely a period in your life where anybody who talks shit about you, you feel like you need to respond with violence. Yes. And then you get kind of, you get popping, you get older. You travel the world a little bit, and you're like, what the fuck do I care?

You start getting money, hos be roaches. Did they all sue your ass? Beat him up, sue you. Or press charges on you. Right. You know, and I already, I can't, I don't need no more charges. And at the very least, you're not going to be able to beat a bitch up without her posting about it on Instagram for Cloud. Send it to academics and me.

Oh, God. She has haunted me, attacked me. Yeah. Yeah. There's no way. They got to make the best of a bad situation. They get beat up. They're like, well, at least I can get some clout.

At least I can go viral. Yeah. That's fucked up. I don't want to go viral for getting my ass beat. What charges do you have? You just said. I got like a bunch of misdemeanor charges. And then I just recently, like some months ago,

I got a damn felony gun charge that I'm on probation for. Where are you at? Like with the gun. Because like Texas is pretty open-minded about guns, right? I was out of town somewhere. Lord. Somewhere apparently their laws are like different than where, of course, in Atlanta, like, I got pulled over for the same exact thing. And they gave me all my guns back, you know?

Right. They take them, they detain you, and then, you know, they make sure that everything is great. and then they gave you your shit back. But you were in a state, like, close to Atlanta where you weren't even thinking about it? No, I was out of town, like hours and hours away, doing a show. And I was leaving my show. And I got pulled over.

Do you got pulled over for any reason? They have any reason to suspect you? It's like, I feel like, I don't know, I feel like I kind of got set up or something because it's like they was already sitting outside the club. Like, as soon as I pulled off, They pulled off. Right.

You know, like, what the fuck? What's going on? Do a lot of girls carry guns where you stay at, as far as you know? As far as I know. I mean, in Atlanta, for sure, a lot of females got guns. I remember I was interviewing- But that's because you need a gun. I was interviewing Ruga, who's a Chicago drill rapper, I think it was.

And I said something about how there's been multiple times where I showed up at somebody's house and put my gun on the table and they just looked at me like I was fucking crazy. Why? Because culturally out here, like a lot of people who, and I'm talking about white girls. You know, the white girls see a gun and they're like, what the fuck, you know? And Ruga laughed in my face and said in Chicago, if you don't got a poll, the girl's going to laugh at you. Because they got one too. And I was like, damn, that's a real scenario.

Because where's your gun, boy? What did you do and lack of it? Oh, man. Was it always about music? What were you thinking about doing before music? Um, I used to do her. Like in high school, I was in cosmetology.

And it was like a program where if I kept doing it, like through 11th and 12th grade, then I can graduate with my cosmetology license. Like, so I wouldn't have to, if that's what I was going to do, you know, I wouldn't have to go to school for that after that. I could just go right into it. So I was doing that. And then I had actually beat this girl ass at school,

and I got put out the program. So that was fucked up. No regrets, or did it have to be done? It's like, now that I'm this age, you know, and doing what I'm doing, I don't regret. But, you know, back then I was like, damn, I fucked up. Yeah. I felt bad back then.

What was it over? First of all, the bitch ran up on me. So it was like, you know, I had no choice but to be her ass. Right. Because don't run up on me. But you got kicked out for that? Yes. It's like, so I beat her ass and then the program is at somewhere else.

Like you have to get on a bus and go to the shit like with the cosmetology. It's like the little cooking classes, all that type of shit over there. Like trade, different little trades and stuff. So I beat her ass And then it was time for me to go to Cosmetology So I left And I got on the fucking bus

And I went to Cosmetology And I was in class or whatever And somebody came And it was like They had asked to see me And I was like, what the fuck And I went up there And it was a damn post

It was the police from the school And he was like Yeah That I was in trouble And I need to go with him And I was like I hope this is not for this stupid girl. She told right away.

Yes, she had to have her. Nothing is sacred. Nothing is sacred. Like, be cool. You ran up on me, you got beat up. Let it go. Right. I mean, just a fist fight?

It's not that serious. If you get shot in the leg, I could understand. Snitching, be a little different, right? But school, they used to take that shit so serious and make us do mediation. Really? Yeah, like, they'll make us sit at the fucking tent. table with each other with the counselors with our school counselors and talk out our problems mediation and that I'm assuming was not your favorite thing oh my god I used to be so aggravated

like I don't want to squash the beef with it so fuck yeah but did you have to like fake squash the beef in that scenario I will fake it or sometimes I would just pop my shit and I have attitude and And they already knew what timing I was on at school to teachers and shit. So, you know, they would just let me be most of the time. Right. So, okay, you didn't finish the hair school, but then you started, like, working on the music career soon after, or was there something in between? I graduated, and then my, like, literally a couple months later, I went to the studio.

My friend had, like, knew somebody that owned the studio. So he was like, I started, I could always sing for real, but I never really told nobody that. It was like a secret. And then I started doing like cover videos. So he knew that I could sing type shit. So he made me in the studio. And I made a mixed tape. A whole tape.

Yeah. And I told this story in a different interview, I had the ecstasy for the first time. To make the tape. I didn't do it to make the tape. But shit, I made a whole damn mixtape in one day. I was just like, I had so much shit to say. Did you feel like that since you made it good? Yeah.

Really? But I never did it again, though. Like, that was a lot for me. That stressed me up. I remember 10 years ago coming home from a night of drinking and doing Coke, and I had too much energy to go to bed. So I, like, grabbed the notebook and just started writing. Not lyrics or anything because I don't rap, but like just writing my thoughts.

And I remember, waking up the next morning and looking at it and reading like two sentences and just being like, oh no, and like grabbing it, ripping it up, throw it away. Because I was like, this is weird. Like, I don't relate to that version of myself at 5 in the morning. I'll blow. Yeah. I'm dead.

I mean, you're talking about ecstasy. That shit, yeah. Oh, Jesus. They're in the same category. I didn't like that. I felt like I was having a goddamn heart attack. Yeah. I was been caught 9-1-1, but I'm like, how the fuck am I going to explain myself?

I'm going to have to tell them I did something. Right. And then they're going to look at me like, you fucking crackhead. So I was just like, you know, I'm just going. Recording a whole mixtape off of an ecstasy pill is like a very Gucci-Main style thing to do. Like old Gucci. Well, I definitely did it. Yes.

And that shit came out far. Right. So it is what it is. So, like, how does the way that Gucci moves influence you? Because, like, I click on one of your videos. And it says featuring Gucci Man. And I see you in a park with mad people. rapping and I just immediately

just thinking in my head there's no way Gutsi's going to be in this scene because I've noticed since he got out and got his shit together that you... He's just certain shit he ain't gonna do yet. He's not gonna play itself in certain positions. He's not taking chances. You know, like I've seen him with a bunch of people in a video but it's very obvious that those

are like his guys that meant to be there. Like I don't know, I just... Or they like somewhere... Yeah. Or it's like a real video shoot where they rented this space or whatever. It just seems like he went from a guy who had nothing. It was acting like he had nothing to lose to a guy who actually has everything to lose and he moves very militant as a result.

I love that though. Right. He'd be trying to, he influences me to do right and move right. Right. And be smart. Make good choices. Yeah. So you don't get in bullshit ass problems.

Right. Yeah. I mean, even just the way he looks now, like his body, it's just like, oh, you clearly have like an extreme amount of self-control at this point in your life. Yeah. You don't just look like that by accident. Yeah. Like clearly you're very careful with your diet.

You eat right. Work out. Yeah. That's, I need to be like that. I'm lazy. Really? I be wanting to work out so bad. When I go to the gym, I do.

I work out real hard when I do go to the gym. But I'm not going to make it back. And that's the thing. And I'd be like, you know, I'm going to go again. I'm going to go again. I'm going to go again. Then I wake up my ass to be hurting, legs be hurting. I'd be like, oh, shit, I ain't going to make it.

And then I say, I'm going to go tomorrow. I just keep tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow and I never go back. So I always work out like once every couple months. I tried to stay on a consistent workout schedule for years and years and years. And now I've had a personal training for the last. the last few years who just he shows up every morning. And I just like very rarely miss it. Like once in a while I'd be like, bro, I was up all night and you just sleep.

But for the most part, I'm always doing it. And it never feels natural to me. Yeah. You know, it's like I know dudes who they will wake up at 4 in the morning. It doesn't matter what time they got home, they are going to wake up and work out. And I'm just like, I don't have anything. To me, getting a good night's sleep is really valuable. Me too.

It's real valuable for my attitude for the day, for sure. If I want to be the best version of myself on. I need to sleep for sure because, oh, I'd be having attitude when I be tired. Yeah. Like if I was on- Get out my face. If I was on two or three hours sleep right now, could I do this? Yes.

Am I going to be like clear-headed or am I going to be like a good version of myself? Probably not. No. Because you're going to be just thinking about how you're exhausted. Yeah. I'm going to be thinking about going home and going to sleep. Like that's how old I'm because when you're young, you can barely get any sleep and then let it roll over the next day.

You also aren't really getting any sleep. You don't even give a fuck. Me, fuck. This is not me anymore at this point. I can't do it. I didn't get out of sleep last night. Really? Nope.

You were in the studio or? No. I had to go to the airport multiple fucking times. Yeah. Multiple times. I missed two flights. Two flights? Oh, so your team be going through it.

I mean, you know, they know me. So you got that rapper lateness? Look, one time I missed the flight. and I ran into pool and then I ran into foo. We all missed the flight. Wow, just because you guys were all just hanging too tough? No, we all showed up like at the same fucking time. Like I was walking.

I heard somebody behind me talking. I'm like, what the, it sounded like some niggas behind me. And I turned around and it was a fool. And I was like, nigga, what the fuck? Right. And then we walked up to the thing and it was like, oh, y'all missed it. And we was just laughing.

And we got put on the next flight. So we left back out of the airport. You know, we went to go smoke. And then, yep, went back before we missed the second damn flight. Does it hurt? Knowing you might not see those guys for a couple more years. It does, you know, but I talk to them still. Really?

I keep in contact with them. They seem like they're doing pretty good. They both. Yeah. They both be in good spirits every time I talk to them. on them. Right. So, okay, when you start rapping once you sign the 10-17, what was your attitude with that? And like, I heard you in it. I was listening to

an interview before I, like, heard you really rap in, and you were like, oh, yeah, like, guys, be listening to my songs because I don't just be talking about popping pussy or yada, yada, and I remember thinking, like, all right, I'll be the judge of that. But no, for real. A lot of times girls say that shit, and I'm like, okay, yeah, we're really listening to you, yeah, we're riding around listening to you. But then I heard, like, some of your shit. I'm like, okay. There's some truth to that. I'm sure. Yeah, I can see guys fucking with this. No, for sure. Like, they be posting, singing to my shit at my shows.

It's a lot of dudes there. They be saying the words. Like, for real. Do you turn into a different version of yourself when you get on that? I feel like it's me for real. Like, if you know me, then you know, like, that's like how I am like on a normal basis like I'm more, I'm not really like a girly girl. Like, you know, I'm more like a tomboy. So, like, that's more the type of shit I'm, you know, I don't really do a lot of girly shit.

At this point. You know? Right. Girly shit, though? Like. No spa days? No. I mean, I would like to do that, but I don't do that, though.

Right. You know? You'd probably love it. You need a guy to buy you the thing and take you to the spa and everything. I want to go there. It's this place called Spock Castle in Texas. It's like you go there, they do all the type of shit. You get drunk there and they do massages.

It's like they got the little hot tubs and shit. We got one called We Spa. It's like the same type of shit. A dude was there, well, a dude who identified as a woman was in there in the women's bathroom. And it was this whole huge thing. They booted his ass out of there. Yeah, because it doesn't matter. I know you don't want to offend anybody, but that's crazy.

That's crazy. Like, identify as, bro. What are you? Right. Not what you say you are. You can't be up in here just because you said you was a girl. If you got a full-blown penis. Girl, because you feel like you're a girl.

You're scaring the hose. You can't do, yeah. Don't come in a... I feel like if you got a wee-wee-stool, you shouldn't be in the girl's restroom. And I have some trans friends, and I have some trans friends, and I had a few on the show recently, and I asked them, like, how they felt about that. And these are, like, you know, trans women who have had the surgery.

They have the fake boobs. They have the long fucking hair, everything, facial surgery. They're on hormone blockers, whatever it is. And they said, yeah, like, when I go to the gym locker room, I go in the stall and I change because I'm not trying to freak anybody out. Like, I know that I have a penis and that it could be an awkward thing for people in there. Yeah. I'm sure this is kind of outside of your area of expertise, but.

I don't know too much about that But yes This is crazy Do you dream of becoming a mom one day? Yes It's like I want kids But I be thinking

Like sometimes I be having baby Feet real bad Like I'd be wanting a baby And then I'd be like Do I want a baby every day? You know I have a godson

And I'm so Thankful and crazy grateful and I love him and he's perfect you know why because he's a little little baby he's only five months you know of course he doesn't sleep all night you know he wakes up and cries you know he does all that little baby stuff so I can experience that for a week or so you know I can take him back out and keep it moving you know with my life and yeah not have to wake up and have to, you know, take a baby with you everywhere. I have a two and a half year old. And I feel like some of my friends, I've seen them kind of like have babies. And I feel like me and my girl were partially the influence that they saw us and we're like, oh, this seems so amazing.

I want to do this too. And it's kind of like, I've almost wanted to like intervene and be like, bro, like maybe not yet. Because you know, it's not a, you're seeing the fun part. Exactly. You're hanging out with her when she's in a good mood, middle of the day. We're playing with toys. Not when they're having breakdowns and crying for no reason, sleep deprived, all type of. Yeah.

Yeah. When you wake up at 3 in the morning and you just hear, I pooped, and then you realize that the whole crib has pooping it. Yep. That's when you're like, this is not all funny games. It's like, you know, my god's son, he definitely blew me out plenty of times with them little diapers. That should be stressing me out. All up the back and shit, Lord. You just see some shit you never thought you were going to see.

Yeah. Like, whoa, what the fuck? It's three in the morning and me and my girls are snapping to action. We're giving her a whole little bath, changing the pajamas. Got to, like, clean everything. Bro, it's like, and I was, and then we put it back to bed, and I'm laying there like, whoa. Like, that was a lot. We were just like a pit crew for 20 minutes to get her back to a normal state.

Yes. To calm down, ready to go back to sleep. all that. You gotta put them back to sleep. Yeah. It's a process. Yeah, like, I'm not gonna lie. Being an up-and-coming rapper,

I feel like having a baby is probably like one of the worst things that I could think of just in terms of like, you really need to be able to move around like whatever. You know? No, for real life. A lot of shit is super strict.

A lot of shit with my life now. It's spontaneous. Gucci himself is spontaneous. He'll call me tomorrow and be like, I'm coming to Atlanta. You need to be. we can make a song we're gonna shoot a video tomorrow. Like, you know, having to find a babysitter, you know, doing all that last minute, it's just,

it will be a lot. Yeah, because people hit me and my girl up and we'll be like, hey, I'm going to be in town tomorrow and we're having this big ass party and yada yada, and you got us got to come out. It starts at one in the morning and we're just like, oh my God. You have no idea how strict the parameters of my life are in order to be able to do a decent job of being a dad and a business owner. And I don't have a lot of time for other things. But when you're young, like, partying and shit is just like,

where the fuck else are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I could see you as a mom, though. Me too. Maybe give us some time. Yeah, for sure.

I think, like, in the 30s is when. Well, I mean, people would do whatever they want. But once you're in your 30s, I feel like that's, your lifestyle is going to naturally start to slow down a little bit, or at least it for me. I feel like that's that really helps you know

yeah stability yeah I've talked to some people who are like yeah I had a kid my life didn't change at all

I'm like oh my god that's terrible how is that I don't see how much because I think they're just dumping it off on their grandparents or whatever

or we're going to take care of it you know which is I guess that's nice but yeah but take care your damn kid

stop drive your kids off exactly I noticed Gucci's done like a lot of songs with you, which is kind of interesting, because I know sometimes people sign, and it seems like he does, like, one video, and it's kind of it. Do you feel like you have, like, sort of a, not to make you compare yourself for anything, but do you feel like you have, like, a particularly

special relationship that he really believes in you? I feel like we just really have a good working relationship. Like, whatever, he sends me stuff to get on, I get on it, and he likes it. I send him stuff to get on, he gets on it. So it's like, we just have, like, a good working relationship. as far as like our artistry goes. Like we work well together. So I feel like that's why we have worked a lot. Maybe more than him and other artists.

Makes sense. Are there any other female artists that you got a relationship with or that you managed to tap in with? Callie, Lakeia. It's my bestie. And who else? Amarretta. I love her.

I fuck with a lot of female artists. Do you, Do you feel like the girls are welcoming enough, or is it a little bit of a threatening thing when a new girl comes on the scene? No, I don't feel like nothing threatening, for real. People might, some people see themselves as a threat, but if you don't see them as a threat,

then it's like, you're not bothered by it, you know? So that type of shit don't bother me because nobody's a threat to me for a, you know? Definitely. Because I feel like I'm in my own little, you know, I do my own thing. I do something that everybody don't do, you know. I can make R&B songs and rap. Everybody can't do that.

So I feel like I'm in like my own little, you know. Definitely. Section. I'm in my own little section. So I don't see a lot of people as competition for real because I'm not competing with you. Right. You know? I was thinking about coping the only.

only fans just so that I could have a conversation with you about it. I thought everybody can say that. Because I heard you on another interview and the guy clearly had not bought it. Yes. And you were like, you got to check it out and see. Yeah, he was trying to get spoiler alert. Like, I'm not putting this on the internet and tell everybody it was on there. And so then last night I'm sitting there.

My girl's right there. I'm like, am I really dropping 35 bucks on this? I mean, it's not a $30 about those. Yeah. You spend that on a bullshit-ass meal. This is true. But I also know that, like, it's almost kind of like bad taste to, like, describe what's on somebody's only fans? I feel like, yeah.

Leaking it is bad, but, like, even talking about it is a little bad. Because that's, like, kind of weakening. You know? So I figured I would just, you know, not do that. I appreciate it. But is that, I appreciate you not buying it. Because they don't need to that. Well, it would be kind of awkward, right?

Unless they buy, you know. Well, would it be awkward? It wouldn't be awkward. It wouldn't be awkward if you knew that I had viewed that sort of content. That's fair. Okay. So where are you at in your career right now? What are you working on?

Do you have any big plans for the future? Right now, I'm getting back in the studio working on the next project, really. I'm ready to, I haven't been, I'll say, I took some time off of recording because, of course, I lost my best friend, you know. I wasn't really. It's like, and I really didn't, I still dropped, like, right after that. So it's like I didn't really, I feel like I didn't really have a chance to, I still had to show up as artists, you know, and go to work and do interviews and do all type of shit, you know, that I really wasn't in the mood to do, but I had to do it.

So I really took some time away from, like, recording for real. but now you know I'm getting back in my bag recording some new stuff making new music putting a new project together so I can drop in the next couple months that's fire yeah I feel like you need to give yourself some time to that's like one of the shit that the hard parts about this job is that I just meet so many fucking rappers and it's a dangerous ass job and sometimes you know have a week or a month where it's like multiple different people that was cool who's their lives and it's like oh no you got to wake up and do three more interviews tomorrow.

Exactly. So you got to turn off that part of your brain that's sad for a little while, and that is fucking difficult. It is. Yeah. And then it's like everybody asks me questions about it, so it was like, damn. Hmm. Yeah.

Yeah, like, I've had people I lost where I just kind of kept it moving, and I've had people I lost where I went to the funeral, and even just driving there and being in the funeral for an hour and then leaving was like enough to make me feel like, all right, at least I took a chunk of my day to really be able to like try and process this, you know? I feel like I really stopped, like I stopped going to funerals after a starting point in my life. And it was like, I just felt like it's a lot for me. Like I don't like that.

Like I don't want my last. I really don't like for my last. you know encounter with that person to be that. Like, I don't want to think of them instead. I don't want to see that. I don't want to so, yes. It always fucks me up how they look in the casket.

Yeah, it's like I had to go to my best friend funeral. I had to go. Right. Even though I don't go to funerals because I know it fucks me up mentally. So it's like I knowingly fucked myself up mentally. Which is something that I had to do. But like, I mean, that's such a rare thing too.

A guy and a girl who are doing quite well in their careers establishing like a real friendship. I mean, that just doesn't happen every day. It's hard to make friends if you get older. And especially guys and girls, you know, there's always this weird thing that you might end up seeing each other or whatever. So it's even harder to form a real bond, right? Exactly.

But we was like actually like best friends. Like that was my best friend. For real. Yeah. Rest in peace. Yeah, I never got to connect with them. but yes rest in peace my best dear damn

all right so you're working on this new project anything else we need to know about um I'm still shit I'm still pushing the project I just dropped right so I'm still I'm dropping more videos I'm gonna drop

another video in a couple days um to one of my R&B songs off the project so that's what I I've been working on shooting R&B videos, dropping those just to bring more awareness, you know, back to the R&B side. Because, of course, I had original fans that was only R&B.

But, of course, signing a Gucci, you know, I gained a huge fan base. And it was like I only dropped rapping songs for a minute, like with the label. So it was a lot. I gained a lot of rap fans. So, you know, just trying to smooth them over, you know. Makes sense. Yeah, you got two fan bases to take care of now. Yes, for sure.

Definitely. It's cool, though. I fuck with it. Yeah. I've been excited to meet you for a while just because any female co-signed by Mr. 1017. I was kind of intrigued by. Yeah. Definitely seemed like a cool, last person.

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