No Jumper - FBG Young & FBG Dutchie on Losing FBG CaSh, King Von & KI, PGF Nuk & More

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

FBG Young and FBG Dutchie chop it up with Adam about FBG Cash, FBG Duck, the early days of their career, staying focus and keep growing. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:44 Losing someone that's close is very dif...ferent  4:15 How the city reacted after Cash's passing, he was turning things around, people were embracing him  5:55 Saying RIP and choosing sides 6:34 Cash's situation was maybe because of a woman  7:23 Before the music, kinda started back in school, King Louie was the goat at the time 8:34 King Louie was a pioneer, everyone listened to him but still a opp tho  11:15 The FBG boys all started together + Not really listening to Chief Keef back then  13:22 Playing opp's music in the club for the gram 14:12 When Duck's career was blowin up, it made them work harder  15:23 Adam breaks down Trap Lore Ross 3 hour in depth video about G Herbo and the glory days of drill 10:18 Trap Lore Ross threatened by King Von's team to take down a video 22:05 "You don't really get caught in Chicago unless someone tells on you" + Lil Zay Osama caught in NY 28:32 Rappers coming up thinking GDK gonna get them some attention 34:51 Cash connected them with many people in the industry + Cash didn't mind having that "villain" reputation  36:12 Joe Budden podcast trying to make Adam the bad guy for posting Cash clips + "You gotta be ready for crazy questions, it's up to you to respond or not" 37:17 Joe Budden thought that Cash was a young boy, he was a grown man, also are you really a kid when you're in the streets? 39:51 The way you ask questions plays a part on how someone would answer  41:34 Flakko called Adam a bitch for not asking Boss Top about one of his opps 45:49 16ShotEm was cool for sp*tting on Flakko but they would have knocked Flakko out + Bandman Kevo put the battery on Flakko's back 47:26 In the end, 16 and Kevo stories was debunked by 1090 Jake, both: "Who is 1090Jake tho!" lol  48:42 Kevo needs to drop more music, made hella money scamming --- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Jumper, coolest podcast on the world, and we're in here today with the FBG boys. How are y'all doing? How are you feeling? Nice to have y'all back. It's been a minute. We're having us. Appreciate you. You're having to.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Kind of sad circumstances, though. Let's just get that out of the way. The last time we were all together was when we did the cash interview. And I think that was only maybe like six months ago, nine months ago. and he unfortunately passed away. Pretty sad that last time we were all together was to celebrate and interview somebody and he's lost his life since.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So I just want to say rest of peace to him and everything. For sure. For sure. How is that in terms of your mental state? Are you so jaded to it at this point that it just doesn't hit the same way that it did when you were younger in terms of dealing with death? No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:00:55 See, I thought I was just about like, losing a lot of friends but shit like losing a brother that's different right that shit took me like it took me back to like losing took me back to like the first person that that got killed and shit that shit because i used the thing like shit i didn't i lost a lot of friends i'm really numb to it but that shit hurt cash was different just because he was such a big personality to y'all that's my big brother so it was like losing the losing a brother shit I felt for a lot of people in the hood that lost the brother shit, everybody that lost like a family member, period, shit,
Starting point is 00:01:33 because it was like, yeah, that shit hit different. Right. And it's like you dealt with so much debt that you just keep thinking that maybe it's finally done. Maybe, like, you know, especially something like him where it felt like everything was going in the right direction career-wise. I don't know. It's just like it's fucked up how consistently this shit happens, you know?
Starting point is 00:01:51 I don't know. See, that's one thing. Like, I don't, I'm not, I know it's not done. Like, I know it's more. to come type shit like it just it just be surprised in me like who get killed type shit by like i know somebody's going to eventually get killed like that like so do you feel jaded to it you feel like you like i mean i understand that y'all deal with that differently just because you guys have been seen it up in your face since you are young kids right so but i mean how how would you say that you
Starting point is 00:02:25 deal with it in a sense, like in terms of what the grieving process is like for you guys at this point in your life? I don't really think I deal with identity just like shut down for a couple days type of shit. Just don't want to talk, don't, you know, calculate, evaluate the shit, you know what I'm saying? And then you backing up and running type of shit because you can't, you know, you can't let it start you out for too long, but you got to step back and just take it away for what's
Starting point is 00:02:51 going on. But did you ever have a death that it did? doesn't feel right because you just didn't, you know, I don't know, like even when I go to somebody's funeral a lot of times that makes me feel like at least a little bit at peace with losing them. Like, okay, at least I spent a couple hours at this event to mourn them, you know? But like, do you ever, there's also been other people where it felt like, damn, I didn't slow down long enough to really like reminisce about who that person was. I mean, it's really like how close you is, with a, would a, would, um,
Starting point is 00:03:26 with somebody. Well, for me, it's really like how close you is with somebody. But I grew up seeing, like, people just die all the time. Not even just, like, my friends. It's like, even, like, people who pose to be, like, the oppositions. I want to pass the time. I grew up, I grew up with them, too.
Starting point is 00:03:46 So, like, even seeing them die, that's crazy, too. You feel me? But, shit, like, it depends, like, what hit homes. And you start seeing, like, like, Like I say, like I don't block the lot of shit out, just being like just losing all my friends. I just blocked a lot of shit out just to even deal with that shit just to not get to in my feelings about the shit.
Starting point is 00:04:09 But like losing the brothers, that shit like bring out all your emotions. Definitely. How do you feel the reaction was when Cash died, like in terms of how the city reacted and what the mood was like? See, like, Caj, like, he won't like a friendly guy in the city anyway.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Like, ain't too many people who are, like, really big on cash. But, like, before he died, he was really turning that around. Like, he didn't, like, damn, that control the internet got all the people who then had shit to say about him. He didn't got them to start liking him and shit. So he was, like, really working on building everything back up before he died. Right. But, I mean, with him, honestly, it's kind of similar. for you with him in the way that it was for us with Draco the ruler where he got killed in L.A.
Starting point is 00:05:01 at his own concert. And it was a crazy feeling for all of us because on one hand, we're super sad and everything. But at the same time, it felt like he had been saying shit in songs and really provoking beef to such an extent that it did kind of change the vibe around it. And you also see people, like it was different when Nipsey died because Nipsey died. Nipsey was kind of cool with everybody. So, like, everybody was able to mourn him. It's all over the radio, et cetera. When somebody passes who's, like, more mixed up in the politics,
Starting point is 00:05:34 a lot of times there's a lot of people who don't want to be saying rest in peace and doing all this memorial stuff and everything because they feel like the other side is going to take it as disrespectful. I feel like that's crazy, too, though. Because I feel like shit, if they understand everybody's situation, they can probably relate a little more and they I feel like they don't want to be
Starting point is 00:05:58 trying to be like they pick and size and be saying RIP and doing all this but if they feel like if they understand the motherfucker's situation a little more of their respect and be like shit he is a real person you really got shit going on
Starting point is 00:06:12 and like he's just out here saying fuck motherfuckers for no reason and they're like motherfuckers ain't saying fuck him and shit so shit and like he really want to do this shit just it's vibe me what he grew up to
Starting point is 00:06:23 right what did the situation that played out like it that wasn't some street shit right it was some shit with his girl and her ex-boyfriend or something right who with cash how that whole situation happened in the hotel oh real shit is feeling out all i know is shit he was round with a female and shit they jumped out and shit got killed right do you know if those rumors about there being an air tag involved or true Air tag, what's that like a The Apple thing so they can track A car or some shit
Starting point is 00:06:58 I mean shit that can be but shit I don't know That's scary sign of the times People using technology and shit if it is true I mean people do that though Right That ain't nothing new That's not new Yikes
Starting point is 00:07:11 That's scary shit That ain't that do shit That's why I say shit I don't put it past it but shit I don't know for sure Yeah Definitely Can we
Starting point is 00:07:22 Can we take it back to like the early days? I want to like just get like a full history of how you guys even got involved in the rap game. So can I hear a little bit about what you guys were on when you were younger and shit before the music? I'm letting them talk. I'm letting them tell him that. You got to start with Dutchie?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah, we were, shit. Yeah, they have a little fake little rap and a little older than me. So I would fake following them. Okay. Yeah, before that shit, you know, we was kids from Chicago in the mix. You know, shit like that. We started rapping type shit. There was some other niggas that was in school with us type shit.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Because, you know, around the time we started rapping, the nigga King Lou, he had the city type shit. Like, he had, like, he did in there, like, everybody on his shit. No matter what he was from, but none of that shit. Really? He was the fucking prototype, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 He used to go to that shit. Yeah. Yeah. He had the fourth, third grade, listen to him. He had that shit back then, so we started seeing his buzz type shit and all that shit like, damn, we can get into that shit too. We started rapping type of shit. Me and Duck, you know, we're rapping with us too.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Some other niggas, they had a group, and we came up with our group. RBG type shit since then we've been keeping that shit going. So King Louis, though, you guys weren't looking at him as, like, an opera or anything? I ain't say that. But the grammar school I went to, it was then that, like, the school I went to and grandma school that bit then that was, like, they wanted to be like what King Louis was from, tell you shit. So they had the whole school off that shit.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Right. Who the fuck you spitting, boy, that's your heart. That's fooling them from, you know? Shit like that, so shit. And so how many years older are you than him? Like two years. Two years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Do you feel like you have like a big brother, little brother relationship, or is it more equal? I'm not equal. We came up together. We earned that shit together. Like I just, I was hanging with them. Like, I always been with the older crowd, so I'm following that. How old are you guys right now? I'm 26.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm 28. Okay. When's last time you're at first fight? Me and him? Yeah. With each other? A couple years ago, I'm like two years ago. Is it a struggle?
Starting point is 00:09:33 You guys get into conversations like that? No, it ain't. We didn't have, like, probably four fights that I like. But it'd be like, we have a lot. Probably more than that type of shit. Like four. Right. I used to be dragging you down the stairs, though, bro.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Them aren't really fights, though. You used to be getting for real, though. Mad as there. Yeah, I said, you're going to see. He's on some fat shit back then. He's like on play, drag him a fuck downstairs, shit. Right. I learned how to wrestle, put him on this shit.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But I think what's even more important than not, than fighting, is, like, did you ever, like, get in such a big fight that you didn't talk to each other for, like, days or weeks? That's why we get to fight, that's what it would be, though. A little cold war after? It don't be a cold war. We just don't be talking to this shit. We ain't on the internet tweaking with each other. Like, the other people don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, so you don't put it out there to the public ever, yeah. Yeah. No shit. Like, we're trying to kill each other, no weird shit. that is just we had a disagreement or we fought or something weird and shit. We ain't been talking, we ain't been, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:26 We didn't have been avoiding each other type of shit. Then we sue each other. We had like, shit ain't ever happened. Never happened. Right. Back to them. That's good. Because that's why I remember
Starting point is 00:10:33 when Gucci and Waka finally split up, I remember them saying that everybody thought they were cool, best friends. But then meanwhile, they're in the studio beating the shit out of each other, getting in fights and shit. And I was like, damn, that's kind of amazing. That was a fan that they were able to keep that low-key.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I think you're already doing that. Yeah, like when they were younger, like back when they were together, they were getting such intense shit fighting in the studio. But the people never knew. And then they finally broke up and Walker was honest about that. But like, that's pretty cool that they like never took any of that shit to the public. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Yeah. It's family shit.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It's probably in half. Right. That nix's going to get into it, man. Knicks is going to. You know, brought his fight outs up and shit, you know. Right. But so Duck, when, was Duck the first one to make music? No, we all started together.
Starting point is 00:11:19 But was he the first? on that success? I'd say he probably was. He probably first because like... Be what successful? No, probably had the first time. All those was making music, dick, yeah, around the same time. But he's probably had the first one and had like the real song at DJ Kim.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And we were you trying to take us to DJ Kim. Yeah, yeah. That's why I say I let him talk first because, like, we all started rapping at the same time. But motherfuckin made the studio and made their songs first. Like, he was fucking with DJ Ken with Keith was recording that. Right. And shit, he was trying to take us and shit one time and shit. But I was funny to make a song.
Starting point is 00:11:49 But like, I think Keith was coming. So he had to, uh, his hurry up finished the song with some shit. Cause, no, he was more into Keith. That was the hottest one. Right. So, Duck was looking at Keith as like, oh, shit, he rapping and he's representing this shit, so I want to do my thing? No, not that time.
Starting point is 00:12:05 At that time, it wasn't even like that yet. That shit happened so quick. Like, it was just, my folks just in the studio, my fellow was just in the hallway smoking or some shit. And then this shit just happened so quick. My father just couldn't even be around each other. Mm. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Damn. But I ain't like really know Keith like that. that, I just sent them a couple of times. Mm-hmm. So, were you guys, like, genuinely listening to his music at that time? Negative. Negative.
Starting point is 00:12:30 People were, though, like, he had a one of a little song. Let me hear, um, see, like... Yeah, he had some songs, let's be real that you couldn't avoid. No, he can't... You can't avoid that. You've been forced to listen to Finito mad times in your life, like in a night. But you're going in that listening to it, like,
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm playing this shit, like, but you can't avoid not hearing this shit at one point in time. Right. No, but he's talking about, like... Before all that shit. What's the motherfuckers going to listen that shit? No, let's get it. That key.
Starting point is 00:12:55 You know what about? Oh, you're saying like before motherfuckers split out? We, four, 300 and all that type of shit, key. Yeah. We, damn. Because Ken told us, like, pay attention to him. Y'all come in his bitch, just freestyle y'all songs. He come in this bitch and write his shit.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But they weren't trying to, they weren't trying to claim Ken? I don't. I don't, I don't even think Ken was even letting him know he was recording us type of shit. Right. He was keeping up trying to keep us separated. Yo, but that is a mad funny thing about, like, songs being played. around people where now it's like you ever see that clip of uh what's her name yaya mayweather and she's in the club and they're playing dirk or some shit and she getting all mad in the
Starting point is 00:13:30 fucking corner and it's like oh man this is like it's so easy to troll people now because you can just play their ops music and get a clip for the gram that shit but that shit but that shit but i'm sure yeah it's just the beginning of that shit you know we started off like man you couldn't play no key so you can't ride down our hood none that shit but then it's got like we can't It's on the radio. Can't avoid not hearing that shit. So you're like, man, we got to turn down. Now it went to a point where we're looking crazy for turn that shit out.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So, like, we ain't he on that. We ain't going to do that shit no more. Right. Unless you really saying, like, he's saying, fuck out, homie in that shit. Then you can't play that shit. For sure. But, okay, so how, like, I don't know, like, with Ruga, or, excuse me, with Ducks career kind of blowing up, like, how did y'all,
Starting point is 00:14:15 did you guys just sort of, like, take position as he was. coming up and were you guys all like working as a team or like what would the mentality become as he started to get more momentum shit how folks was putting that shit we all can get like the type shit if we all work hard as hell because that's why he was doing that's how he was putting the shit to us like you see what the fuck I'm going my fucking get get the same shit type shit right if you just got to be because folks in the studio every day type shit shooting video every day day he on that type shit like that's
Starting point is 00:14:48 you know right you steal that shit in me and then cash just came and just overtime that shit type shit yeah so what years was cash gone that he was locked up a lot of most of them is right because he because he had a little movement
Starting point is 00:15:02 went like a long ass time ago but like then that stopped in what like 2013 or 2014 I'm on fucked up with the times guys and all that shit I know that nigga was going like at time he'd get locked up he probably get locked up for like four years or shit like that so he got locked up
Starting point is 00:15:18 about like three four times so shit you know what's crazy to think about i was just watching um trap lower ross this YouTuber he did a documentary about um no limit and all them gherbo and it's like three hours long it's the craziest most in-depth shit when you watch it it is like the most mind-blowing amount of death that happened on both sides of this thing it's fucking insane and one thing that really just stood out to me is like how the glory days of drill being documented on the internet was definitely that like 2010 to like 2013 window because that's when you had everybody tweeting whatever you had motherfuckers uh there was a series that you guys probably used to watch all the time like no lacking or whatever that it was like these dudes just filming
Starting point is 00:16:09 themselves going to the ob blocks whatever like it's the craziest shit i ever seen is wild to think about... We started that shit, you started it. Yeah, hold on one. I like... I got videos on that shit on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:22 All the way like 2009, 10, 2017, on the house apart of that shit. Oh, okay. So they didn't start the trend? Nah, we started a lot of shit, though, like... Niggas just don't really fuck with us,
Starting point is 00:16:32 so niggas take our shit and they get the credit for it. Right. But it's just, when you think about that time period, how open everybody was and how oblivious they were, so the fact that the cops
Starting point is 00:16:42 were going to see this? Yeah. They weren't, They want, niggles are just young and dumb, bro, just speaking ain't mine. Yeah. Yeah. Shit, I had to realize that shit, because shit, I had a case and shit. I said some shit on the motherfucking, on Facebook and the judge,
Starting point is 00:16:55 and them came and said, I threatened a judge, some of them kill them all type of shit, you know? Right. Yeah. But, I mean, now, even the dumbest motherfuckers seem like they get it. So that they got to be, nah, but there's a lot of examples that come to mind right away or some dumb-ass shit the motherfuckers who should know better did in recent memories. retelling on themselves so yeah i look at that shit now because i don't know we've been doing that for so long like then at six seven eight nine 10 years ago i look at everybody who do that
Starting point is 00:17:25 shit now like either you just doing that for attention to get some clout or you just dumb as hell they're going to jail no they ain't trying to go to the joke they ain't doing shit they're doing they on internet tweaking like that because this shit real the shinninn is really like you know i don't know i just look at niggas like they ain't doing shit they're doing that dumb and shit they're trying to get some clout i mean it must feel way different to be locked up for a body and they caught you
Starting point is 00:17:51 because of some DNA or security cameras or whatever versus like you're locked up for a body and it's because you're told on yourself on instagram that must be a way different feeling that's got to be a dark 25 years in there you know just thinking about like damn i shouldn't have fucking somehow implicated myself on social media for clout That hurts.
Starting point is 00:18:16 That it hurts. You know anybody that you feel like that's probably their predicament? I'm trying to think. I don't know nobody that's done. Yeah. I'd be just seeing motherfuckers on the internet. I don't know nobody person. Well, a couple of the people who got their ass incriminators and got cooked off the...
Starting point is 00:18:32 On Instagram? Of the internet. Oh, everything type shit. You just see this shit on the phone in front of your eye. I said like on the internet, like I'm not personally. Like, who personally? How are you talking about it? about fool now.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You just ain't sure you don't go to you. Yeah, I don't mean that you're supposed to be. But to be fair, I think the situation you're referring to, that's just one part of the evidence that they might have. That's true. That's a big part. There's definitely a good part if you're going to be there in court trying to make the fucking case.
Starting point is 00:19:03 But then at the same time, I mean, all them cameras and everything else probably pretty powerful too. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. Maybe, you know. Yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:19:15 um did you see this thing uh that basically that said dude traplow ross so i'm talking about he at one point he had a video out about vaughn and in the video he was running through all these potential murders that vaughn was accused of and he ended up getting hit up on instagram basically by this account and he's kind of not paying attention to the account but the account's borderline telling him like we're going to kill you if you don't delete those king vaughn videos and so then he gets hit with three copyright strikes on the videos at the same time like basically Basically, somebody's got God mode hacker skills, and they're trying to take down his channel,
Starting point is 00:19:50 and he gets hit up by that Instagram account again, basically being like, yo, delete the shit about K.I. in the video, and we'll let your channel live. And so he deleted the shit out there, and then boom, it gets, the channel stays up, and then we find out later that the cops are saying that they think that that was the murder, that they actually had the evidence to prove that he did. Thoughts.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Oh, I'm running about that shit, man. They got hackers out of it, though. They got all the type of shit going on. They love, they love him. They got hackers doing, tell the motherfucker to delete some shit. Well, somebody got some power around him. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:36 What type of video they had about KIA, though? It was basically just him laying out, Trappler-Ross laying out the evidence of, like, look at these tweets. Look at these DMs from when they hacked their account. Look at whatever. Just all this shit. and look at all these little things that make us think that he might have killed her. And it's just kind of eerie that then people were that upset about that. And then that's the one that the cops said that they would have arrested him for if he was still alive.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I ain't going to lie. I think the police just did that shit. You ever seen the wire? Yeah. You know how they were trying to do their clearance rate shit? Right. They want to solve as many murders as possible. Anybody who did and all that shit, they be solving.
Starting point is 00:21:19 shit or they kill do-d-d-d-ro-you-know type of shit like that type but this is such a drill rapper and interview tactic where you don't ever want to credit the other side with anything I ain't I never said that you gotta look you got to ask us a different question like like how was he then we'll tell you like real shit I'll tell you I'll tell you Chicago police is because they just came out and just he tried to think you EJ but it's not just with his situation with shorty situation it's a lot of my folks in the city that they just came all the unsolved shit all of a sudden they saw all of a sudden they saw So you have homies that got killed and like there's a killer who was arrested but you don't buy it?
Starting point is 00:21:55 Like the cops put it on somebody just to get the case closed but you don't think that they actually figured that shit out? That's a little different. Oh. People don't be getting caught like that in the city of the Chicago type of shit. Right. Unless somebody really like till or they get like caught in the act of that shit. You see what I'm saying? You feel like the kids feel emboldened like they're just not going to get caught?
Starting point is 00:22:19 I got shit. That's damn now. I don't know. I only think of my husband. When I was there, they knew we weren't getting caught type of shit. You knew it. You knew you weren't getting caught. That's scary.
Starting point is 00:22:29 See, that's, like, the politician's worst nightmare is that that's how kids feel. Is that just consequenceless crime? Yeah. I don't know how they feel. I know they all heard dangers, though. Especially new kids, they got switches. Yeah. Switches taking over the game, huh?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Hundreds. They were to take over the game. And they all got them. That shit crazy. They all got them. How do you feel about Losea Osama getting caught with the switch in New York Left in the Uber? Man, he crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Oh, what's to the man? I know y'all ain't stand you with that, though. It's cold? Y'all can turn it down, sorry, he's shaking. I be shaking. I don't know where the thermostat's at, but, sorry. Yeah, that shit crazy, though, especially we look mad crazy because we did an interview right before that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 where he was talking about New York gun laws and how bad the gun laws are and if you get caught with anything out there you're doing all this time yada yada then he gets caught like fucking two weeks later horse plan they're trying to put it on the Uber driver though trying to say that was his switch
Starting point is 00:23:37 five who was shit oh phone number yeah yeah see out of time like that if you're in court trying to make the argument of it was the Uber driver switch you're gonna really regret having all those songs where you talked about having switches. Is you snitching, though?
Starting point is 00:23:53 But what do I know? I'm saying, like, is he snitching? The Uber driver, you know he in that bitch. Like, that's my switch. Boy, that's the Uber driver good. But it's not like he could ever say it was the Uber driver's gun. He can only say it might have been his, so you can't prove that it's mine.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Don't say nothing, man. I don't know. How many Uber drivers carry a fucking switch around? You never know. Everybody be having all type of stuff. Yeah, but I don't know. Uber drivers ain't nobody's shit. They regular people.
Starting point is 00:24:21 people some of them everybody regular person I'm just saying in New York City where the gun laws are like
Starting point is 00:24:28 gnarly as fuck you're getting like 10 years in federal prison for having that that average Uber driver even if they carry a gun is not carrying that gun
Starting point is 00:24:36 and I feel for them because I don't want to see them locked up at all but I mean it's definitely not looking good you don't like Switch uh well
Starting point is 00:24:45 it's not that I don't like them I don't really feel like I require one of my day-to-day life I'm so you by gives you one. Yeah, after this conversation. I'm bad, up there, that shit crazy.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah? You ever shot one at the range? That's fair. Yeah, but I don't know, like, I remember when I was interviewing PGF Nuck, he told me that the switch war is like, you just need one these days that you just straight lacking if you don't have one. Is that actually the attitude in Chicago? That's my attitude in Chicago. I want to put that out there for the city. shit.
Starting point is 00:25:22 If you're smart, you better get one shit because everybody got one. But how is it smart when you're going to do 10 years or whatever the fuck they're talking about? I mean, the laws are crazy. You haven't looked into this? No, I'm saying you're going to jail. Me? Yeah. I mean, not at this time because I haven't got caught with a switch.
Starting point is 00:25:41 We talk about the laws if you ain't going to jail. Yeah, but it's pretty easy to get searched, right? I'm trying to get stopped. I'm not trying to get stopped by us. You put it over and talk to them? If they try to pull me over, I'm probably gonna have to. What, you, you're a fan of the high-speed chase?
Starting point is 00:25:56 I'm not, that guy. If you carry in a switch, you dare to know what you gotta do and shit. What you gonna do with you, you know? So if you got a switch, you have to run from the cops. I guess that's fair. That'd be smart, shit.
Starting point is 00:26:08 You just heard, you said the gun laws and shit crazy, right? Right. But do you think of it like that in Chicago where you get caught with that shit? You're fucked too? No, I don't think niggas really. It's really just about survival, though.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Yeah, like that jail shit be like, my fuck be in that bitch fighting and be back home. My fuck ain't a bit get healthy. Come back, you know. A fucker be decent in the jail. Right. My fuck, if they had blick down, there ain't none of that. Come back in that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You ain't coming back. You ain't that big left. Right. How much time have you guys actually spent locked up? Me? I spent like nine months ago. Okay. I ain't a fan in jail.
Starting point is 00:26:41 I don't really want to be talking about jail, but I probably did like probably. I ain't really did, though, jail time. I probably did like a week and a half or something to count you or something. Right. It ain't for you? And that shit boring is here. Right. I feel you.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Then you can be in that little ass room for stanking and shit at using this shit. Right. Yeah, that's not for me. I've seen it on TV that talking to each other through the toilets. Yeah, yeah. I'm not trying to stick my head in the toilet for any reason. I mean. That shit's like a mental, the process.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like they're trying to break you down in that bitch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to feel. brutal being in that environment. But yo, I just mentioned PGF Nuck. How do you feel about him having some disrespectful words towards
Starting point is 00:27:28 you guys' side? That's been a little controversial, right? I don't really feel no type of way. He needs to be saying a lot of stuff, bro. What did he? What was he smoking on? I forget. I forget exactly how this went. That's a new shit there.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And who was exchanged? Was it yellow yellow going back and forth with him or I forget? I should probably know this. Yellow from yellow. different um I wouldn't even want to say sad because niggas thinking like I ain't no gang now it's he a whole different crap so I can't talk about you and yellow as if y'all are the same thing it's just it's too separate yeah except from skeezy gang
Starting point is 00:28:04 we like to simplify out here in L.A it's like GDs BDs make it nice and easy the same way y'all try to do it with the bloods and cribs you probably think it's that simple it's not at all that simple it's not even close yeah it's not that's nothing that simple type shit it's a great area right Right. That's actually one thing I was feeling watching that No Limit Document. I'm like, damn, this shit is way more complicated than I fucking realized. Yeah. I got no business dipping my toe in this. But yeah, does that, does that ever piss you all off that there's this like automatic thing where all these, like, rappers coming up feel like saying GDK is going to get them some attention or? I'm not sure why they're doing it. I don't want to say that that's their motivation, but. GDK ain't a big thing to me. You got to be saying, fuck one of my home.
Starting point is 00:28:50 or something. Oh, it's got to be more specific. Yeah, shit like that. Yeah, shit like that. But niggas who do that shit, they don't, they just secure their place type of shit because the way the shit set up is weird as hell in our city type of shit.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Like, ain't too many niggas from my, you gotta grind it out, like, you hear me? Right. But once you say you fuck with us type of shit is then you're done there and I broke, yeah, so you then gotta show my fuck, you ain't with us type shit. Even if you say you ain't, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:19 then they gotta be if you pay attention everybody aligned with serve niggas type of shit they're hoping for a feature or hoping to get to coast
Starting point is 00:29:27 when they say the whole Chicago coming together is never the whole Chicago coming together it's just everybody that's just with shorty number
Starting point is 00:29:32 my father that's with shorting them type of shit right and then that's aligned on their side and then other niggas
Starting point is 00:29:38 does that feel crazy that like you're left out of the peace talks negative we're so used to it though you've been like that just been like that
Starting point is 00:29:46 forever for sure like 20 2010 so shit right you get used to it I feel like when you when nigga Duke
Starting point is 00:29:57 really really come up and get that big you're gonna be so happy we're gonna be so happy you're motherfucking and really made it like then on our own that's why you guys
Starting point is 00:30:04 need to have more kids raise you a whole new generation if you have like 50 kids then one of them's gonna be fire right I ain't have no kids no how many you got right now they rap
Starting point is 00:30:15 they want to be I got one in the stuff stuff son man I Yeah, I ain't have them no more. They killed it for the kids. Really? Yeah. It's too crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:25 No, they just, it ain't that crazy. It's just like, I ain't have no more. They're cool. It's too cool. That's like, that's a fine amount, no more. Like, I'd be dare wrong to have three. Really? I think about that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I may be high three, though. If I, like, back and get bigger, maybe I have three. I don't know. I come from a big family. Well, but if you live a long life, if you're, like, going to make it to 80, Fuck. Make a couple kids at 45. Keep the later half of your life interesting, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yeah, for sure. If I make the 80, I might have a lot of little kids. We got to take advantage of what makes us special as men, which is that we can impregnate people when we're old as fuck. Y'all make that shit sound like that shit. I mean, it's a big advantage when women can't have a fucking kid anymore at like 35, you know? It's not that easy to select a baby bad type of shit, you know? Well, yeah, you got to find a girl who's ready for it. You know, I learned from photo and talk shit and my mistakes,
Starting point is 00:31:22 tell you shit with women. Damn. You know what he is. I'm going to be crazy. You've been shell shocked? Yeah, shit like that. Yeah, I've been through a lot. How many kids you got?
Starting point is 00:31:31 I ain't got nothing. None. That what I'm saying? But you, like, but you, like, but you, like, how many abortions you paid for? Tell the truth. Who? Tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I was just asking. I mean, I was just saying, tell truth. Man, you're tweaking, man. You're talking, man. You're talking, man. You got hell of bodies. I'm not, like, getting up, like. He's the Grim Reaper.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I think women should have a choice of their body type of shit. Oh, I agree. You know? But you out here exercising that choice frequently, huh? No, this, when I was a shorty type shit, you know what I'm saying? When I was like 17, 18, 20, 20, 30 shit. Nah, for sure, yeah. I mean, I'd be doing the one and have a baby, but I got to find a right bit of that shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:32:10 No, but having a baby, though, like at 35, 40. I don't want to say 35, but I say, like, 40 or something, that's crazy. because raising them, you gotta raise them like another 18 years. That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy to think. Have a baby at 45 and then like they're going to college or graduate in high school.
Starting point is 00:32:27 You're 65. You're retiring from work. It's like kind of sad. Like you might be dead before they hit 30, you know? Like, and that's if you live. I hope your parents were. My parents were actually kind of older. They hadn't had me until they were like 28 or something.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That's cool, though. Yeah. You got younger siblings? They was grown. They knew what they wanted to do. No. I got one more of this three years apart from me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:46 They knew what they were to do, but my mom had mad miscarriages before me. I said she was trying to. I used the miracle baby then. Exactly. And that's why I have all the rage of all those babies combined inside me, and that's why I go so hard. Like DJ Khalid on the treadmill. She loved you, too, then she?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's why she was real troubled by the fact that I didn't care about education and wanted to go out and be in these screets, you know? She is satisfied. She backed her shit down on us. Yeah. She got kind of traumatized by it, but she likes it.
Starting point is 00:33:16 now? For sure. How y'all mama's doing? Hey, cool, cool, cool, that cool. My mama, look, she's still grieving. Oh, yeah, how's she feeling? Yeah, she's still grieving. Yeah, man, it's got to be rough.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Yeah. Definitely. You feel like you move on faster than her, and is that kind of weird for her to see you be able to get back to life faster than her? I don't know, but I'd be thinking, like, I don't know if it's weird for me that I didn't like taking it a little more better than her but uh it ain't though it's her son right yeah son is is different man and you just
Starting point is 00:33:53 have so many homies of years that died that it's got to have like made you feel like ready for the feeling in a sense that she definitely doesn't have that you know yeah yeah for sure yeah thought about a couple of times for shit like even like i ain't want to speak on that shit though yeah for sure though are you guys going to drop like a record of all his shit that he hadn't put out or Are you still dropping videos from before we passed? Or what's like the plan in terms of memorializing cash? We just dropped the album. Oh, you just did, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:26 He dropped the album all three of us on now. You dropped one like shit a couple days right after that shit happened to him. Yeah, cash out. Yeah, he dropped some shit right after that shit. Shit, yeah. You still got some more shit, I gotta drop too. Yeah. You got a lot of music, though.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I don't know, like, I know we gonna drop that shit, though. We ain't got no plan. Like, how are we gonna drop it right now, though? He got a lot of shit, though, that they're going to want to hear that shit hot. Right. New flow and everything? Does him pass and does that motivate you all to, like, go harder with the music or to keep going in that sense?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Like, you don't have him putting shit out, so you've got to try to fill the void a little bit? Yeah, 50-50, though, but like, but even before him passing, though, like, he was just going hard for so, and, like, in a short amount of time that he, like, connect us with a lot of people, like, connect us to you type of shit. I just hit you like, man, could you get the team to post the tape? Do the interview.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, I didn't even have a connection if it went for him. Right. And he was going crazy. Like, he connected us with a lot of people type shit. So. Yeah. Yeah, he was a networker. Fake like he, like, you know, was leaving this shit to us.
Starting point is 00:35:37 But do you think it frustrated him feeling blackballed, or do you think he's sort of just relished and sort of having that villain role? Now, he loved that shit. dope. Yeah, he relished and that shit. He, like, he ate that shit
Starting point is 00:35:48 that shit. He added that shit better. Because I don't know. I see the diggers be frustrated than say all type of weird shit on
Starting point is 00:35:55 internet and be mad that niggas because we understand that shit, you know what I'm saying? We don't speak on it if you understand that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I get it, you know what I'm saying? But folks relished in that shit like, come on. We're going, since they got the problem, we're going,
Starting point is 00:36:09 you know? Right. I've talked about this on like a million interviews, but I got to bring it up because because Cash was used as a specific example,
Starting point is 00:36:19 but when I went on the Joe Budden podcast, they were bringing up screenshots of some of the clips. And I don't know, one of them was like something about Cash talks about this and that with Dirk or something like that. And they're trying to basically use that to say, like, look at how evil your content is that you have gang members on the channel and they don't know any better and they're talking about this and that. How do you guys feel about that criticism towards people like me or Vlad?
Starting point is 00:36:45 or whoever out there making content about all this rap shit street shit I don't know man they you can you can have um you can have um how you say that shit how you say that shit um what's the criticism you can have criticism about the shit they talk about like they be doing out a lot of cloud chasing weird shit too like it just I don't know this content it's content for everybody shit Yeah, it's 50-50, but shit, it's a content for everybody. It's a view out here for everybody.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Everybody wants to see certain shit, so somebody got to do it. I feel like, like, are there many questions that I could ask you that would make you so pissed off that you just walked up out of here, you screamed at me or something? Or for the most part, when you do an interview, are you just going to, like, if an interviewer asks some crazy-ass shit that you would never answer in a million years, are you just going to laugh at it and be like, no, I'm not answering that?
Starting point is 00:37:45 Just, I mean, he's going to say you ain't going to ask. You're just going to laugh and look at each other. But you got to be ready for that shit. Like, you got to, I don't know. We've been through so much shit that we're doing that ready for it. Like, you were to ask me that shit earlier. We were then doing that one to fight or something in this bitch. But shit, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:04 We don't be on that shit no more. Well, do you kind of expect that? It's your job, though. You got to understand. Right. It's really what the people want to hear, so you got to ask what the fuck the people want to hear. But it's really up to you to answer the shit, though.
Starting point is 00:38:15 job. Right. The one thing I pointed out that kind of was annoying to me is that they're talking about cash like he was a fucking total child. Like he has no idea what he's doing. And I'm like, bro, this is a grown-ass man that realistically knows that him talking about this kind of shit is going to make shit go viral and people going to be talking about it. People check out his music. Why are you talking about him like he's like a kid that has no fucking clue? Like he's a grown man. He seems like he's actually a pretty smart marketer from my perspective. Michelle. I know exactly what are you doing, man. What's a kid in the streets?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Like, shit. Once you get into that type of ice, you ain't a kid no more. Because if I have a 14-year-old drill rapper on here, and I'm asking him some crazy-ass shit, then maybe that's an okay argument of like you should be careful about what you get this young-ass kid to say on here. But when we're talking about somebody who's like 30, I don't know. Yeah, I get out of that. If a nigga 15, he's... Now you can say, shoot, drill, and all that weird shit, he's not a kid no more. But he get arrested, folks going to, you know me, whatever that shit called LA County out here?
Starting point is 00:39:18 They're going there. He's going there with the big guys. He's not going, you know? They're not in the old kid anymore, bro. So he got to know everything that he's doing, everything that he said out of his mouth, kind of type shit. I feel like, as a kid, though,
Starting point is 00:39:31 you shouldn't even ask him nothing like that on him, though, because he ain't even developed yet to even dodge that shit. And that's what I find kind of offensive is the idea that cash should be put in that category. as a grown-ass man that he should be treated like he's a dumb-ass kid when it's like he knows what you're doing bro right right is it kind of weird do you think it's weird when someone does an interview this is like a line that I don't usually cross although I guess I'm crossing multiple times in this interview where just saying the names of somebody's ops to him
Starting point is 00:40:00 saying how do you feel about so-and-so like in terms of like real street shit like neighborhoods and such and such weird mehuffo's just a little too much like state names The Europeans on what is about type of shit, though. Like, same shit, I'm... I dare to say that I don't even want to speak on shorty in them, you know? Right. It's weird. It feels like the more specific gang politics shit is stuff that is super weird to me to ask,
Starting point is 00:40:26 but then I see the smaller interviewers and shit doing it, and I'm like, well... You gotta ask, huh? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It ain't even about just, like, how big you was, how small you was. It could be motherfucking. Mufugher, you, it could be 16, shout-in-fuck-fuck-on, it could be another motherfucker,
Starting point is 00:40:44 a true teller from the city type shit. Mm-hmm. Certain shit, the way you ask it, it would be like, not you, I'm just saying in general, any motherfucker, any motherfucker who interviewing the motherfucker type of shit, it'd be kind of weird type shit. Right. But niggas like me type shit, I don't pay attention to that shit to afterwards, so I see my fuck post that shit and I said, I'm watching them.
Starting point is 00:41:04 I said, my bitch ass at that, my goofy lame that shit, that asses at that shit. You ever regretted what you said in an interview You went too far? Yeah, a couple times I'm like, type of shit. Yeah, but that's when I'd be like on pills or something weird that and shit like that stuff shit.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So I learn to keep myself cool and do whatever I'm gonna do I thought. Well, I'll give you an example of one that I didn't think, that I thought was too over the line. And one of my employees, Flocko, told me I was a bitch for not asking this question.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And I have to speak of people that you may not get along with. But when I did the boss top interview, right before that Cuando Rondo's homie had got killed in Hollywood right in the car and Cuando was right there
Starting point is 00:41:44 and he saw it and like obviously Boss Top was presumably enemies of Wondo Rondo so he's probably low-key happy about something bad happening in Quano and my dude Falko is like you didn't ask Boss Top
Starting point is 00:41:58 how we fell about Quando's boy getting killed I'm like that feels over the line because if I'm asking him about some shit like that basically like inviting him to show or to celebrate in something negative happening to somebody that he presumably does not get along with that somehow feels like that would be over the line for me to ask him that. Yeah, that was crazy. That would be crazy. It will, but that's what you're supposed to ask him, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Right. It depends on how. In order for his business, the wound. So you think I should have did it. Yeah. Because you would have clicked on it. You would have wanted to know what he said. No, it's not what a nigga said.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's not what a nigga said. It's not what a nigga said. crazy though it's what a nigga don't say you know what a nigga don't say but it's how a nigga body twitch or how his face go up or you know it's a lot of extra shit you know floco crazy we gotta start doing interviews with the polygraph on the person like a lie detector that shit don't work do it
Starting point is 00:42:55 I mean you can I don't know man they say you can beat that shit they say you can't train him for that shit yeah if you were a real stone cold killer you might be able to beat it I don't know it's possible but so you start doing that doing that, then niggas ain't going to want to interview, you're going to be like a, like, police or something. If you cross the line too much, people be worried about working with you, yeah, for sure. But yeah, like, that would be a weird situation for me right now.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Like, say that somebody who's like a famous op of yours, and everybody who watches this kind of shit knows that there's somebody that y'all do not fuck with and they get killed. And the next day I do an interview with y'all, we already had a schedule. It's such a weird situation of, like, obviously the world. wants to know, but as the interviewer, do you really want to be the one to say, how y'all feel about this? You do.
Starting point is 00:43:44 You do. You want to be DMZ. You want to be first. You want to be first. You want to be first. That's a hot take or something. I would try to nudge it in the direction. Maybe I could get you to talk about it
Starting point is 00:43:54 without saying the name. You can't, it's how you come off too. You know what I told you. Like the way, it's not what you say. It's how you say is your body language. It's how you carry yourself, you know? Right. So it's how you come off.
Starting point is 00:44:05 What's going on truth teller? What's his deal? You guys, interview a niggins like shit. You guys, you guys fuck with him a lot, huh? You guys do content all the time with him. He's cool. He's a good dude. He's covering the fucking nitty-gritty.
Starting point is 00:44:18 He respected. Like, that's why I fuck with him, though. You feel like he is? Because I see him interviewing you guys, and he'll ask some saucy-ass question. But he'll kind of, like, add a bunch of warnings before he asks it to try to soften the below of him asking him about some shit. But he's also, he's less. afraid of asking about specific street shit because that's like who his audience is. And sometimes when I click on his shit, I'll see a gang related rapper saying shit that I
Starting point is 00:44:47 know that would not say to me because they don't want to necessarily give their enemies clout on my platform. But because Truth Teller's platform is more local and smaller, they'll tell him whatever. And I'm like, that ain't right. You got to tell me that shit too. Not really, though. It depends. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think it depends on how early. you catch him and people be like different and every other interview people get better and talking and knowing like because people watch their shit they know what they fucked up what they say around this shit i should never say that shit to his goofies you know so i've had that couple of them you know what i'm talking about you ever hit up the interviewer and be like take that shit down yeah i never did that 16 i'm what i said criminal name type of shit don't even say that what was it the way he titled it nah some shit i said type of shit i shouldn't even talking about type of shit.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Right. I was too beside myself. I just got done shooting a video. I'll talk of weird and shit. Hey, look. I think his bitch has kept that shit up, though, now that we think about it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:45 All right, bro. I got, I make this money first. You fuck with 16 or? No. Is he cool even though you had a little disagreements? No, I didn't have no disagreements. I mean, you think he made the rack look good, huh? He came on no jumper, spitting the motherfucker's face.
Starting point is 00:46:02 He made Chicago look good. I mean, I'm just saying. Now, he probably just did what he had to do, though. I wouldn't have spit on the, I wouldn't spit on them. You would have swung? He got to knock him a fuck out. That's kind of a tactical thing on his end, though, like, it's more disrespectful than no jumper if he swings on him.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Him spitting on him is kind of like, is not as disrespectful to the platform, but. But it's over disrespectful to the shorty-ass, though. You know what I'm saying? Oh, fuck. Hey, that was crazy. I watched that bitch a couple of stuff. They ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You got a couple of you. He did? He really did? Oh, God. Flacco spit back, but it was like a dry spit. Like, he didn't have any spit. I didn't think he wanted to spit when I've seen this shit. What are you on with him?
Starting point is 00:46:44 That's my boy, 16-mile boy, but I feel like, he shouldn't have spit, though. He should have knocked his ass out or something, like, if it was really a problem. And then it would because he... He was just talking hell of shit. He was calling him a clout chaser from the very beginning of the interview. He already told him, like, you're a goofy.
Starting point is 00:47:00 You had a clout chasing in my eyes. I told him after that. I'm like, you can't start an interview. interview like that bro you gotta like you gotta be cool with them and like if you want them to that's fighting talk so shit yeah you can't just name call he ain't fuck with 16 at all he feel like yeah but he's like clicked up he's doing what bandman kevoh tells him to do i ain't want to say that but yeah that's how i think bandman got a battery in his back i was like he dropped the bag on his but now we now we know that bandman kevow did not snitch and 16 shot him did not snitch or have a thing
Starting point is 00:47:32 with an underage girl the both of that was that was debunk 1090 Jake went got the paperwork looked into it found that both of it was bullshit so I'm glad that we have that kind of technology on the internet these days who the fuck is 1090 Jake though my boy get on YouTube search 1090 Jake it's the best YouTube channel it's like he's hard he does all the best like street YouTube content he didn't he probably got a video about you he he's from like he's from like he's from Florida and Boston, basically. He's a white blood.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Very rare. Damn. How do you get all this information from? I interviewed him. You go watch my interview with him. It's like three and a half hours long. It's fire. He looked up the court documents and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah, yeah. You all right? Don't tell you think. So if you ever want to prove somebody's a snitch, he's probably a good guy to get in touch with. I don't want to prove nobody. If you ever have a snitch, I don't want no smoke witch. Don't tell me.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I don't look. Y'all do y'all thing. Yeah. Keep me out that shit. Not in the paperwork business? Yeah. I ain't trying to prove nothing. He's trying to prove nothing.
Starting point is 00:48:35 You're telling on people and leave me alone, you know? Right. I'll start telling on you. So he can leave them folks alone. How do you feel about bandman Kevin, though? You fuck with his movement? I don't even know him like that. I used to fuck with that song back in the days.
Starting point is 00:48:50 He's like, blah, all right? He needs to draw some more music. He was decent, wanting to hear that bad, that bitch. He probably was dropping that bag, though, because he was on the radio a lot. He was an icon for the scammers. Yeah. He made hell of money scamming.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I watched a little mini-documentary thing about the other day. Actually, it was a 10-90 Jake video where they were talking about how much money he made scamming back in the day and shit. So that's like an under-told story. Everybody in the music talks about all the gang shit. But we know that damn near every fucking kid in Chicago is a scammer. And that story is not told as often. Yeah, we know them like y'all know him, though. We don't really know them.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Just because we're from Chicago. I mean, like, they probably, right. They just said I had conversations with him. You know, you probably know him better than we do. Right. Yo, when you heard that he had LIPO, which is now, I guess, meant disproven, how did that sit with you? You said it was disproven? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:43 They're saying it's not true. Oh, no, no, no, he did have LIPO, but he didn't get a BBL. That was captain. He didn't get a BBL, but it was funny, though. Sossie Santana got a BBO. What the fuck is? Hey, yo, what the fuck this thing? You don't know who Sossi Santana is?
Starting point is 00:49:58 I don't know. It's a gay rapper. Hey, do I know a gay rap? You're crazy. You don't listen to gay rappers in the rack? By what you, bro? 63rd, no gay rappers? No, he got no problems with nobody.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Oh, look, man, look, stop being funny out here. I don't know about no gay niggas. And none of that weird. He's not your type of dude. He's like a makeup dude, like a stylist or some shit. He's like six-third, no gay rapper. You went here sitting there, bitch. Y'all don't know how uncomfortable he got it.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Look how uncomfortable he got it. Nah, it wasn't that because I was chirping off the bandman. Cabo BBL. Oh, yeah. That's cap-cab. But I see some shit where he said he did get his his ass done, though. He just, he didn't want the top to be raw his hair, but the vibe don't be bogus.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh, so he got some fat taking out his ass as well? I don't know what happened. Shit, if you're going to do it, you might as well go all the way with it. I told him. I'm like, at this point, I didn't need to go on jumping that bits. Yeah? Cutting out this bits. Nah, you could just hop on a diet.
Starting point is 00:50:50 You don't go to do that. Come out with the six-pack. Come out with a big. Bro, you got good genetics. You go work out. Do some boxing classes for a couple weeks? You'd be all right. He can't really work.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Y'all like that run and do all that shit, though? I got no kneecap, too. Oh, your legs fucked up? I got shot on knee. Oh, I forgot, yeah. The problems and shit, my fucking been getting. Wounded veteran. Read my mind.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I'm phoning him. That's what I'm falling, though. That's just how I'm feeling. All right, so what do you guys got going on in terms of this movement right now? What's the new shit that you guys are dropping? shit we just dropped the tape a couple weeks ago we've been 30 me young and cash shit me and young gonna drop where you being three
Starting point is 00:51:40 we got a lot of shit in store type shit we got the merch going crazy right now too trying to push that shit going you're gonna put cash another cash what's the word called the two fuck owls are you called that shit posthumous yeah we're trying to do some more cash yeah posthumous
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm like a thesaurus or a dictionary for you guys just hit me up anytime Anytime you can't think of the word, just hit me up. Hey, what I got a lot of shit going on, though. Oh, yeah. You got to keep it wrong. The other question I forgot to ask a second ago was, I know you were tuned in when 16 was doing the Cairo interview.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Really, not really, though. Really? I'd be too much. I don't really like watching a lot of people's shit, but it'd be like, shit, the people make me watch some shit. Like, that shit go too viral. I'm like, man, I'm dend them messing out. I didn't see my shit.
Starting point is 00:52:30 People start DMing you about it and shit. No, no, really. Like, my fans don't really care about that shit. But I did be seeing that shit, like, y'all post that shit. A lot of people be posting that shit. Then I say a lot of people talk about it on Facebook or something. I'm messing out if I don't really see it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Definitely. But when you, like, do you feel like 16 is going to be able to stay out of the politics doing that kind of content? Because, you know, it's like, in that way. world doing certain types of interviews is going to burn a lot of bridges for you. I don't know, do it. Yeah. I would think. He done that scotter already did, huh?
Starting point is 00:53:10 You should. Well, somehow. He got a couple interviews like that. I'm treading the line. But yeah, but me interviewing you guys is like realistically, your option. I'm not going to give a fuck about this interview because it's like you're not using it as a platform to go crazy. And even if you were, it's like, it's kind of been established that I do this with both
Starting point is 00:53:28 sides. But that was a different one because it's like, You got somebody's old homie who's fully, like, exposing them and saying the craziest shit about them, like, exposing, like, family business. Like, that, that was crazy. I was seeing it, kind of thinking, like, damn, I wish I got those views. And also thinking, like, damn, I'm glad I'm not the fucking person who exposed all this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:51 50-50. Yeah. I told you got to take the good with the bed. 50-50. Because after that shit, old mother, he got on your shit before or right around the same time. He was lit, though. He got that shit He had the whole
Starting point is 00:54:03 Fool baby mom All that weird shit going on Oh what 16 Fucking band man I didn't say that I'm just saying 16 Why you gotta say all that man
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'm just saying 16 He had a whole lot of shit going on around the same time You know what I'm saying Yeah yeah He was here You think you got a PR company To help him
Starting point is 00:54:18 Spitting someone's face And do this interview It's like It's a whole rollout The 16th's shot him rollout 16 had a lot of viral Momos Back to back to back to back to back to back
Starting point is 00:54:28 Back to Back to Back 16 was viral But if he's going to be the next academics, he needs that. Yeah, you got to keep that going. Because think about it. Academics was at a certain level, and then he gets in that shit with the Migos with Joe Budden, and all of a sudden, boom, his fame reaches a different level. You know, a lot of times it's these dumb little controversies and viral moments
Starting point is 00:54:47 that really make you famous as fuck, which is kind of unfortunate. But that's also like, that's just the reality is that, you know, him spitting in a fog off his face definitely made him way more fucking famous. So he came back. here after that, didn't? Yeah. I don't think he's been here, but, yeah, I still have a fuck with him. I see him with another interview after that with fool ass.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I think that was the second video. I'll be watching your shit. Oh, yeah, him and Sharp did one after that, right? Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Definitely. All right, well, I appreciate y'all coming in here. Rest and peace, cash. What show? Recipe duck, too. Rest and peace duck. Definitely. Appreciate you too, though, man.
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