No Jumper - Fonzo6700 on Falling Out with Rooga, Why the BDs Respect Him & More

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

Fonzo6700 talks about his relationship with FBG Duck and Rooga, going viral, Famouss Richard, AyooKD, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! h...ttps://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 No jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. I'm with my man Remo. And today on the chopping block, we got my man Fonzo. We're going over viral. The shopping block. Not the chopping block, but you know. The conversational chopping block.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Okay, okay, cool. We out here with Fonzo. Yeah, Fonzo and his bids, man. Shout out no jumping, man. Got your boy Fonzo, 6,700 on it. Yeah, we out here. That's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:00:33 You got some hits under your belt. Yeah. I got some nice out I believe I believe in Fonzo and introduce us to your homie too we're seeing all the other guys man KJ the God man yeah he been a long time on the drill scene you know a long time how'd you guys tap in he been tapped the end we from Englewood we grew up together so what do we need to know about Englewood out there anglewood like the heart of the city really that's what a lot of shit happened that's where a lot of shit happened that's where a lot
Starting point is 00:01:05 lot of movement started. That's what Jojo from. That's what dirt from. That's what we're from, we from, we from across the land. We, like, in the neighborhood. We're not towards, like, towards the low end with duck them and all them from. That's like the Woodlawn area. We're from Engwood. When you say the main line, what you mean? Or the red line. The red line, that's what separate, like, that state. So that's what separate the city. So the rail line run right up through I-90. So that's what separate the city. So we're from, We're from the right side of the red line.
Starting point is 00:01:37 That's the left side, you know? I don't know if you're filming yourself or not, but I'm kind of scared to move this in. No, that's. No, I ain't free to myself. I'll help the audio out a little bit. Anyway, all right, let's talk a little bit about where you come from in your early days. Like, what kind of childhood do you have? I grew up, I grew up in a trenchant.
Starting point is 00:01:56 So I went to military school, so I had dropped a picture on my, on my Instagram. I got a lot of lights. A lot of moff is. They're like, how you, how you, how you're in this dream? He went to military school. That was just a part of my life at a point in time. You were being so bad that your parents sent you in your military school because that's what my parents used to threaten when I would be f***ing up
Starting point is 00:02:13 when I was like elementary school and shit. Now, I wanted to go to the military when I was younger. You feel me? So that's probably why I'll play the streets how I played because I was already on that type of time anyway, you know? And I wanted to go to military school, then going to military college and then graduating to the military as an officer instead of as a cadet, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:32 But I wind up following. to the streets. I was supposed to go to the Navy and I went up getting caught with a gun when I was 16 and then that like kind of like overlocked in like the street you get a car with a gun and they won't let you join the military. Yeah, because now I got to go to court. I can't I can't go out to be in the military because I got to go to court. I feel like they should like expel that. If you want to join the military like if they're going to take you it's like going to jail. It's like basically you're losing all your freedom. So it's like why would they want to stop you from doing that to serve the country?
Starting point is 00:03:04 know there's only so many people to want to do that yeah but I had I had end up like getting a special probation type and if I stayed off if I stayed if I stayed if I didn't get in trouble then I could have went to military but I wound up saying that's right I mean being in the military versus being a rapper slash gang members seems like about as different in terms of like the pace of your life yeah did you just start figuring out along the way like damn I'm a free spirit I want to do whatever I want to do because I was already like bad as here you know I was already on some bad at nine years old, I probably robbed my first
Starting point is 00:03:37 you know, so I was already young doing bad shit. The military came in, then they wind up just not happening, so I just stayed on that. So what were you really into in the streets? What was keeping you out there? My homie shit, just the lifestyle, like
Starting point is 00:03:55 just living, I ain't living with my mama, I'm outside, I'm on the block, I'm game bang all day, just just the funds of it. Because before it, before it get like hard and trenchers it's fun first that's that's what that's what draw everybody in and the in the streets really be fun at first you coming in young just being lit every day outside of that day doing what you do you know and then it gets serious when your homie started down and your family members
Starting point is 00:04:21 start down from all that you got going on you know so what year was like the first or what was the moment you were like oh yeah this ain't fun this serious uh say like probably like 2017 Like around me going like getting grown you know like 17 18 I'm like that's when it starts seem like I bet I'm getting I'm getting older now I've really been in this I was 9 10 years old so now I'm old and I didn't see in a face So now it's like it's starting to weigh down you know yeah instead of just being something that You wake up every day to go be on that boy you getting older now you probably been in jail sales now and this and this and then you know So by the time you were 18 that was already kicking in yeah that was all that was already kicking
Starting point is 00:05:05 in the end, but you get so addicted to the lifestyle and you get stuck in the trends. That's how I feel like you get stuck in the trends. You don't see family for years. You just outside being on the block and then you look up five years later, you're on the phone with your cousin like, what's up? Your cousin's like, I ain't talked to you at three, four years.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You're like, what the fuck? I've been gang banking outside. Just being on that f***, it tapped you out, you know? Do you feel like with Cheekheef and Sosa blown up, did it make y'all even want to like be more outside, more in that drill Yeah, because we was in the field during that time, you know? Ain't, ain't. I'm 24.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So a lot of people be looking at me. They'd be looking at my videos like, he's 16, he's 17, I'm 24. So I was in the field when they was cracking around that time. You know, so that just had the area more amped up. Like, yeah, like. But if you're 24 now, that means that you were like 10 or 11 when Sosa was blown up. Yeah, like 2012. You were outside doing shit?
Starting point is 00:06:00 I was outside, yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't going to say I was over asking. But I was outside. We was already bad. We was already game banging. We was already what we was like they day is what they is, but we we've been that like you feel me that was that we was a part a part of coming up with them. Yeah, but so did you get into the music it to clap at people or was it because you wanted to, you know, basically get out of that now I got into the music because my my brother local visions he was a cameraman. He saw shit for Herb Tink. He he shot their first videos that blew up local visions. He She shot. They, like, I've been around the music. My brother, King, Rico, my cousin, J15, KZ, the guy. They was already rapping around, like, when Jojo and Keith and all of them was blowing up and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Like, we write down the street for them. So it wasn't like no competition thing. Like, we just, they blew up while we was doing our thing, too, though, you know? What was the first song that y'all, like, had that was successful? A song, it's called, B-W-T-you-know-Me. And that's when it was like, you wasn't on there, but J-15 was on. on there. Yeah, Jay 15 was on that. I was on the, my, my, my, TJ and my, my, big bro. Yeah, yeah, BT. Yeah. And that, that, that made us like, like, like,
Starting point is 00:07:14 like, like, like, like, hood famous type, you know, we'll be at the guest, is that, oh, oh, oh, that's, that's bro, because that's on there, like, 300, 400,000, you know. So, around that time, like, that was a lot of views, you know? And all y'all, like, on that's 600? Yeah, yeah, that's, that's 6700. All right, so. MW2X, yeah. Where is 6700 of that? It's on 67 and Sangerman, Morgan, Aberdeen, Carbon, like, Englewood, period. It ain't on phone down.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Inglewood, period. We threw that. I ain't gonna laugh. Yeah. Yeah. So when you started getting traction and everything, did you start tapping in with all the other GD rappers and shit, like Duck and everybody?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Um, no, like, I, like, I've been, I've been new duck. I've been, I've been like, like, we, yeah, we was already tapped in, like, Ruga to Ruga, my relationship with him. I, I've been. I've been tapped in it went it wasn't cuz a rap you know 10 years ago yeah like yeah damn so you get you knew him from before he was even rapping in shrew yeah i knew yeah i knew because you kind of got baby face it's like easy to think that you're like youngest i guess like you're 24 but then you're saying you're outside when you were 11 so it's like oh you lived a lot of years
Starting point is 00:08:25 even though you're kind of young yeah like yeah i've been shot in my head before uh i'll type so it's like i didn't seen i i just seen a lot in my in my young but like Let's break that down. Got to break down a head shot. I got a shot in my head when I was 16. Yeah, I was 16 years old. I was out here moving fast, man. And a situation occurred.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Some shit I end up going down. I wind up getting hit in my hair, you know. But I wind up. I'm here. Do they figure out who did it? Yeah, they figure out who did it. That's real deep, you know. it get real deep, like, it's family involved, all type of...
Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, shit. You got family ops? All type of shit. Um, I want, I have family that's, that, that, that, that's a different, you know? So, so, so I want, I want to say that they are because I still love, I still love my people, you know? Like, my cousin's in trouble, he's from 4-6, you know? A lot of people, like, they, they know who trouble is, or they know who Gina who is. That's my cousin, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Like, that's a real face from over there. but that was my dogs he wasn't no opt to me you feel me but yeah I don't got no cousin my cousin though not to even play like that we ain't got no out that's why I was interesting
Starting point is 00:09:46 interviewing Breezy the other day because his dad was a GD and he came out saying GDK and all that I was like how'd that go but people people be people be GDK and GD and Stio B and Cahooz you know it's a lot of stuff going on like in Chicago
Starting point is 00:10:02 it's not a lot of structure left How, like, it is down south or other states or up, up, up, up in the west. Like, it's not a lot of structure left out there. So, so I'll be right here, I'll be GD, but my homie, like, GDK, you know? Like, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be a lot of that going on. It ain't a lot of structure left in Chicago how people might think it is, you feel me? A lot of people on their own. It's shorties out here that's not going to listen to nobody under no circumstances
Starting point is 00:10:30 that's going to kill anybody that's trying to say, anything to them like it's not a lot of stress left it's like click bang and versus game banging like you'll have one click with five different games but we all together like because we just want to click because all the old heads don't really want to be bothering with any of the younger kids right because y'all don't give a and if they try to push law and order on you you're gonna be like what the hell no smoking gas we doing this and I'm cool I'm cool with the older heads you feel I'll be I'll be I'll be clicked in with them like a lot of the older
Starting point is 00:11:02 Jay Prince and them, all of them, like, I'm in cahoots with them. I talk to them, you know. They hit my line. They check in. When I'm being too high or too, too, all over the media, they, you know. But in Chicago, you're like an OG if you make it to like 31. Yeah. Yeah, really, really before that, really not even 30.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah, yeah. Late 20s, you bet out there. Yeah, late 20s, you really, yeah. You're talking about Jay Prince from Texas? Yeah, Jay Prince, yeah. Yeah, how you know, I'm rap a lot, right? Yeah, yeah, but not, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get a lot, through rap a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, like real shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's family. That's all. That's all. That's all. That's all right. Yeah, I get so, because every time I see you an interview, he's sitting next to you.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm with my dog, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I ain't gonna lie, I'd be like that. Like, we come, I just become the support. And my, I gotta ask you something too, you might as well sit down. Yeah. It don't really be shit.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I don't be, you know. But you've been locked in since, like, y'all were younger and stuff? Type shit, you know. Yeah, we grew up together. So we, every guy I grew up, I'm still around. Who was the first one rapping out of y'all? Like, you, J15? King, Rico, and J15 and Loco.
Starting point is 00:12:19 They was rapping in the end. They, they went through it. They went through. They disappeared and we kept this going. Chicago Wave told me the act out of this. They said, why y'all don't be locked in with J15 and King Rican? Where are they at? My brother in jail.
Starting point is 00:12:37 King Rico, that's my big brother. That's my blood, big brother. My brother, my brother liked up here in jail. He served some time on the case. 15, he just, bro went AWOL. See, I don't know where he at. Hell no. We can't tell you where he at.
Starting point is 00:12:53 We can't tell you where he at. He just went A-O-W-on-day. He did a million views and just disappeared off the earth, really. What you think it was? That's my cousin, too. That's my blood big cousin. So y'all don't talk at all? Or was he trying to avoid the violence or?
Starting point is 00:13:06 We've been hollering at them. Folling them been hollering at them. Yeah. I'll hollered him a couple times, but yeah. Folks just had a son and he just, you know. You think he just got over like the drill scene and just wanted to like get out. Yeah, you know, like this shit
Starting point is 00:13:22 got to be committed to. Yeah. Like you really, this you gotta be committed to. Yeah, it comes with a lot, a lot of, a lot of, a lot of money ain't made for, you know. That's all to come down to. Even just rapping in Chicago make you the biggest target.
Starting point is 00:13:36 So if you get any type of clout in Chicago and you're a rapper, your hood ain't got to be on shit. Like, y'all could be goofy or anything. Now you are top hit in Chicago. And Chicago is just so much hate. Everybody would be like, all right, but he got the top rapper slot right now.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He's getting the most attention. Let's kill him. So you got to be on point always in Chicago because it don't matter. You don't got to bump into your op to get into a shootout or anything. You can bump into some niggas that want to get some cloud off y'all
Starting point is 00:14:01 and they don't got no name in the streets, but if they kill you, they're gonna be dead in the streets, you know? Yeah. So you, it's always, it's no lack in Chicago, period, you know? Like, regardless.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Like, that's why so many people, you see so many people going to jail, so many rappers going to jail. I shot my video, I went up, I was over viral, and then I went back to the city and I got locked up.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You recently just got out of jail, right? Yeah, I just got out of jail, like, what, like two, three weeks ago. I just did an interview with Rainwater yesterday was Mo Three's manager and he said this he said if you want to if you're a rapper and you want to make your views go up 10 or 100 times what they normally are all you got to do is wait till somebody dies on the other side of town and then make a video and it don't matter if you had anything to do with it or anyone you know it had anything to do with it all you got to do it make a
Starting point is 00:14:48 song about the guy who died on the other side of town you get a million and you're going you're going to do a million videos and it's it's a shame because the long term value of that is probably not that good but in the short term it'll get everybody to pay attention to you which is like a really sad commentary about what people pay attention to. And then in the short term, it's not, that's not really good because you only going to be alive for a second. You're not going to be known for a long gas time. It's going to be some quick.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Because you don't got money to move around in a way they could protect yourself. And you just created a whole army of people that want to kill you and you dissing anybody who came from anywhere. But that's, that's what be going on, man. Just be wanting to get cloud off. So ain't always on point, you know. So we saw a lot of. examples of that like so like we don't never be into that type of like anybody know us know like we don't do no this and there homie done that we never been
Starting point is 00:15:40 known for that we don't know millions of views strictly our music you know like that's always the print blueprint we try and we did a little bit of this we're about to say we can we can probably did to come um uh then with all right so you we just don't do that shit right we just don't do that out there y'all from 67 street right yeah in the over a viral video yeah I shot down on 65th Street yeah that ain't that's how I would yeah that's like that's like that's but but that ain't we ain't that's that's that's odd we ain't this and that's odd you feel me so even even when I'm saying even when I'm talking about an over viral
Starting point is 00:16:23 can you name somebody I dissed an over viral but the the jester of going to their hood and shooting in their hood is you know like oh like but the music and somebody. Yeah, but I just, I ain't this nobody. They, they know what's going on. Like, you know, don't nobody, don't nobody be on that block. Anybody, you can go shoot on that block if you want to. You come to Chicago.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I don't know. This is him just trying to say that they're, he's trying to say it without, he's trying to get us to agree to it. No, we tell you out like that. We don't even know who you're talking about. That's all right. That's what I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You feel me? Because I ain't going to get on niggas no clout. Yeah, that's what I'm a clever rapper because anybody can rap over viral. You feel me? The BDs can rap OVIR, the GDs can rap OVIR, the most, anybody can rap OVIRO because I'm not in that name drop, you know. It decides to get on the mic and go name drop 50 motherfuck. Now when your music come on, some people name and some people family from that sad, some people family from that side, some people, families from that side, some people homies from that sad.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Now you limit all the people that can listen to your music because they're going to be, hey, turn it off, you know. But over viral, I'm talking about what I'm talking about. It is what it is. But you, you correct that. Avar you had an alarm where you said how you let your main rapper die. Yeah. And people thought you was talking about Vaughn in that song.
Starting point is 00:17:38 People in the comments, even though you probably wasn't a lot. Yeah, they thought I was talking about phone. But you know, why would they think of I'm talking about Vaughn? That could apply to a lot of rappers. Because, right, that could apply to anybody like, but, but that's what the media going to do. Yeah. They're going to be like, oh, hurry Afonzo, GD.
Starting point is 00:17:54 And he f*** would do them. So he's talking about Vaughn. I don't, I don't know, Vaughn. Well, because, okay, this. morning because we were a DQ from the O went to the No Jumber store on Melrose and then he was listening to you on his story and I
Starting point is 00:18:08 DMed him in response and I said GD lover and he said stop playing with me before I come find you boy But But the fact that he's listening to you at all The fact they listen to me at all what I just say The BD is going to listen to me the GD is going to listen to me because they know Fonzo not on that bitch
Starting point is 00:18:24 If anything we're going to leave it we're going to leave it in the streets. They ain't going to go name dropping none but I'm amazing me. I'm amazed him. I'll make drill music, you know? Yeah. So I'm making some, yeah, I'm talking about what I'm talking about, but only the motherfuckers that know what I'm talking about and know what's up, they know what's up, but I'm not going to put it on a whole
Starting point is 00:18:40 public scale, because I still won't. This, who are to listen to my music? I still won't. This, who are to this to this to my music, so, you know? You wanted the GDs that, like, some of the BDs don't in mind, like, embracing a little bit. Like, I see Mimo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How you build them relationships, or is there a relationship?
Starting point is 00:18:56 It ain't, it ain't really relationship. They just, they just, It's just a respect type thing, you know? A, I'm a see real and no real, you know. They're like, I don't do all that goofy cap, I don't hop on no bandwagons, you feel me? I don't beat all in my songs just because I'm GD. Dirk, f***, like, I don't do all that.
Starting point is 00:19:15 That ain't my lane, you feel me? I stay in my lane. I'm from Inglewood. I don't know what's going on in the streets, and if we're going to rap, we're going to rap, you feel me? I want to get on a song. I want to be able to get on a song with a and make some, money Chicago losing out on so much money you feel me Atlanta they hop on a
Starting point is 00:19:34 song with a mu-and and and use that letter to get other zone in Chicago we got the biggest scene on this rap and we're not doing nothing I was just thinking that that we should do a show out here with all the drill rappers because it's like they can't play in Chicago yeah but we could do an ill show with a bunch of fire in Chicago artists and just yeah there's enough fans in LA for sure yeah yeah it'd be hard how often you even come to LA like this your first time on here Hell no. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:20:01 LA like I, second home, we'd be out here. We'd be just taking trips out here. We've been out here a lot. So the labels see the vision with you? They're trying to sign you? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:10 because I had went to jail, so I've been in jail for a year. You've been buzzing for a minute, but it seems like it's more now. Yeah, yeah, since I came home, I had, I had, I had, I went to Sony,
Starting point is 00:20:22 I went to Capitol, I went to, who else you go to? Yeah, I went to a lot of, a lot of records, APG out here with no cap in them saying, with young boy in them saying too.
Starting point is 00:20:32 At first, yeah, they, they was showing a lot of interest. Yeah. Because it's like, I feel like they're, they're always trying to sign
Starting point is 00:20:39 the new drill artist, but I feel like they probably look at you and see that you might have, like, the star power that you could take it past all that. Yeah, they see, they see, I'm authentic, you feel?
Starting point is 00:20:47 That's a lot of what they was talking about. They're like, it's a lot of people out here that act like they live what they rap about, but it's all, it's all just an act, you know? They like, we really see this shit
Starting point is 00:20:56 authentic with you. like, yo, city really fuck with you. Like, you really, you're really doing with you, you know? You're over viral. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Sexy Ray was singing overvara. Yeah, sexy red, she was fucking with me. I was locked up when she, when that shit happened and shit. So I just been, it's like people like that. I've been trying to get in contact with, like,
Starting point is 00:21:14 like, I was with no cap in the studio before I got booked. And I had, like, I got book right when I was supposed to send them all the shit to get the song done. And I wound up going to jail like a couple of days
Starting point is 00:21:24 before that shit. So, I could imagine sexy Red. on over viral yeah like her flow would sound good on it right oh would do her shit I know in my city a fuck with that like the rack bait they really are fucking see that's what you do you sign no label and tell him I need you to take this budget and go get sexy red on vulva viral it's over you know that damn all right so with Crip Mac but wait do you know you know sexy red from back in the day because we used to see videos
Starting point is 00:21:51 or hang out with duck and shit I never met her I never met her but I know she had been around Like, I had been, yeah, knew that Ben that she'd been around, she'd be in the city and she... We don't know what she was doing with him, but she was hanging out. See, grilled the nose around for that shit, too. She likes hood dudes. Yeah. She's talking about her boyfriend getting shot up in front of her and shit,
Starting point is 00:22:10 getting dry by and done on her and shit. I had made a little post like, man, that's going to be my bitch when I come on. You're hit? Yeah, hell yeah, I hit that. See, you see, what's he say in Poundown? She said something about dreadheads. She said, no, Jayne is doing the best. I think she was talking about me.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I was in jail. I was in jail. Like, she's talking about me for a whole phone. All right. So I'm looking at your chain. It's say MW two times, right? What is that? Mikey World.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah, that's Mikey World. Moan World. That's Mikey, my cousin. That's my pops. That's my whole block. That's the whole movement. We MW. MW 2S.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Mdubs. So who's Mikey? That's my cousin. That's my big cousin. He was a real problem out here, you know? In Tunchyville. That's why back then, a lot of motherfahs know it's just Tunchyville, you know. He passed away, I'm, I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The police killed him. 2012. 2012? Yeah, when he was 15, the police killed him. Say he had some guns in this end, but. So, like, $6,700, all y'all go about Mikey World in a way, right? Yeah. That's, that's, that's Michael.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Mycuh, the own world is $6,700. That's the $6,700. That's how I block, you know? For sure Okay, so When did Okay What led up to over viral?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Because that was like when a lot of people Really found out about you And your name really got the buzz And what had led up to that song So over viral It was because So I'd be going viral on the internet a lot Like I just make funny videos
Starting point is 00:23:46 Or I talk And I go viral So I was going viral And then I had an incident When the police had like Surrounded my crib And I was stuck in the crib, you know, because before I had, got
Starting point is 00:23:58 booking, did that time for the gun and shit, I, um, I had some warrants out and stuff, you know, so they had surrounded my crib, so I wound up, like, jumping out the window on my Facebook story and shit and getting to a car and get away and shit on live and shit, you know? You got on Facebook Live and jumped out the window. Because I was already,
Starting point is 00:24:19 I was already, like, trapped in the crib, so I'm like, I'm fun to be gone, y'all, but I had, like, made a couple of little moves and shit, And I wind up getting up out of the. So right after that, I call, I call Lou Vizuals. Shout out my nigga Lou, man. I'm phone and fucking up the city on the camera shit, man. I call Lou Vizal. I'm like, we got to shoot, man.
Starting point is 00:24:35 I feel like I'm going to go to jail, man. So he's like, all right, best. So I wind up shooting Oval viral. And then there's another video with me in the gym room. That's what really, like, aspire overvirus and shit. Like, we in the gym room. Is that a school? I seen a video where it's like a whole bunch of $6,700.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I've seen it. They said it's like, so I'm 6700 shorties. and y'all had it was like 30 guns at a high school or some shit that was the video in the beginning right that was in the beginning of my of my song but that video went viral like it was on CNN like that shit was on the news and other states all type of say like they was calling me because that's one a lot of the schools the school shooter shit was going on so they was having the argument like it's all these kids all these black kids in these schools were like 30 guns and and no reports of nobody dad but one white kid walked into school and keel
Starting point is 00:25:24 you know whenever people want to try to talk about like white school shooters they'll always be somebody wants to change the narrative and be like what about black on black crime yeah 200 kids got killed in chicago last month and it's like ah well it's not the worst point but yeah yeah so yeah that that video started blowing up and shit so that it was on red eight world style everywhere and shit so so so i had been made over viral though like i had been made over it was just in a cut so i'm like all this shit going on that was was called something a whole other tone. I'm like, no, for like, I got to change this shit to name Overviral. Then I wind up dropping that bitch. Yeah, that bitch is Anglewood ours. And I had all the attention on me.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You knew it was going to be a hit? Yeah. Hell yeah. How fast did it start picking up? Where you're like, oh, shit. As soon as I dropped it, it did, what, 150,000 in a day. It definitely is the kind of song that you can just kind of hear it and be like, oh, yeah, this ain't
Starting point is 00:26:18 like every other song. This is definitely a hit. Yeah, like, when I woke up, I dropped it on YouTube. When I woke up that more I had all like the the owner of Sony the CEO of Sony he and my DM I sent him my number but I'm not thinking it's real you feel me what's his name Barry I don't know yeah isn't his name something he he he he he called me then I hung up on him because I ain't thinking I'm like I'm like what the fuck and then he called me back you like no man don't hang up like we try to talk to you I'm like oh damn I'm bad I don't blame me though because
Starting point is 00:26:51 there's probably a lot of people trying to pull that scam out here yeah you know Trying to act like they deep in the music biz. Yeah, because I got a call from Fat Joe, and he was on that on his Instagram, but then it was like, it hurried up and hung up. And then, I don't know, it was some weird ass shit? Wait, was Fat Joe trying to charge you for a feature or something? Yeah, like, it was a lot of people, it was a lot of people that were saying that they was going through that and shit. But it was the same thing that the game was doing, where there was, like, a thing that they were doing where, like, basically they would have, like, people running your Instagram account,
Starting point is 00:27:21 trying to, like, sell features and shit to, to your fans. They tried to get me to do it too. I'm like, I'm not fucking taking advantage of all these motherfuckers like that. Damn. Yeah, getting down. So, okay, what was that video, though, with all those guns, though?
Starting point is 00:27:35 That was normal shit at school back in the day? Yeah, no, that was, we was just in a general room hooping, you know? That's a normal day in Chicago. All these kids are really bringing guns to school like that. For a lot of people, you feel me? Yeah. It's a salvation, I mean, it ain't no school. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Yeah, it's like a rec center, you know? So this is in the middle of the hood. And a lot of motherfuckers be on live up there hooping. Like, a lot of motherfuckers know that we've been going there since we was kids. So a lot of people be up there. A lot of people know we be up there. So that's like anywhere in Chicago, though, like, everybody moved with their gun in Chicago. I've seen somewhere where they said that somebody died like the week before.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So then everybody came up there with all those guns. Yeah, no, that's a lot. We're not doing, we're not doing no damn. Oh, my son. We ain't doing no damn. Man, that was just, they got to make it home. Everybody got to make it home. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:30 So they're like, why do you need them guns to hoop? It's not the guns to hoop. It's about traveling in the middle of the neighborhood up here and then leaving and going home. Anybody can watch you walk in here. Anybody can watch you leave out of here and kill you. So that just show you what people got to go through, just to hoop in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:28:48 So if you got to go through that, just to play ball in Chicago, you got to make sure because the hoopers think of like that too. You got hoopers that come back from Chicago. and just walking down the street and just die. You know, you haven't ever seen stories like that? Like in Chicago, shit happened like that. A nigga that don't got nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So the hoopas, they be moving like that, too, you know? So how often you in Chicago? You still live there or? No, I live in an A, but I be in, and I'll be in Chicago a lot, you know? That's the Chicago glow-up plan. You start to get any kind of attention, boom, Atlanta. So many rappers, both I moved. I've been there now because I've been, but I just.
Starting point is 00:29:23 just be so like I just my mistakes how I be going to jail and shit is just like I got to be in Chicago because you feel like you're missing something when you away from home you know I mean fuck the ops I'm just focused on the cops like the cops are gonna be on your ass as soon as you start to get famous yeah they're gonna make it really hard for you to move around already when I when I got out of jail I was downtown like what what duck had got killed you know I was right there on that strip and they pulled up like 20 cars deep wine and Chanel and coming up guns on us.
Starting point is 00:29:58 The cops did. Yeah. This is as soon as I got out of jail. Like, what I was out of jail? They, we downtown. I'm downtown. I'm on my phone and shit. I'm posting on my story and shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:07 They, they come up there like 20 deep. They, they, they, they, they, they, they don't move. In the dressing room type of shit. Like, they, they, we sit down on the couch. We just turned around. There's 20 cops. They don't move. But we, we, we, we, we, we got a gun.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I think they're just super on alert after the duck shit? because they don't want to have to deal with more murders in high-profile area? Yeah, but three black people walking, going into a store, going from multiple stores with shopping bags. I don't know what's to be on alert for, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I just feel like they want to make their presence known. Yeah, yeah. They just want to scare you. Yeah, they want to make their presence down. They don't feel too comfortable out here, yeah. All that over-virus shit, parked that shit down. What's your recently? Because you just got out like 30 days ago or in November, right?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. Which you got booked for a switch? Yeah, I was, I was Allegedly You're overwooping? That sounds like overwiping shit They allegedly found a switch Overwooping in the middle of a record
Starting point is 00:31:04 Dio I'm gonna in the middle of going up Overwooping And how long was it? A year, 13 months In Cook County or? Yeah, yeah, in the county But aren't you supposed to get like 10 years
Starting point is 00:31:16 For a switch? I beat that shit up Yeah, they was trying to offer me Like eight years at 85% So that's then at like seven years. years and that month, like some shit around her. Right. Yeah, so that stays offered, but I beat that case.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So we got any Cook County videos that's going to drop you since you recently just got fighting? Yeah. They tried to say there was a video of you fighting, but you said it wasn't you. Yeah, they tried to say it was a video of me fighting. Some Mexican dudes. Yeah, no, I want to fight on Mexican dudes. I had three fights when I was booked.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I had a fight in myself with my cell, and I had broke my hand. When I was fighting, I hit him in his hair. I broke my hand. Then I got out the hole. and then a motherfucker scratched on me while my hand was broke. A motherfucker took off on me. I'm following them, I got up.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Then they took me off the deck. Then I had a fight with me and my homie had beat somebody ass. So I don't know if them fights was going to drop. But the fight I had in my cell, that's in myself. So you can't even see that. And then the fight I had,
Starting point is 00:32:13 I ain't really had no fight. My father swung on me. I'm throwing them knocked me down. I get back up. So you're not into it with the Mexican gang because I know you've seen everybody saying No, yeah. No, we ain't in it too with no Mexican games.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Nah, yeah. I fuck with the Mexicans. Straight to them fuck with me. I'm falling up. Shout out my good Southsiders. So I wanted to ask you this. I'm known for pushing a slogan called Swiss Cheese the Tent because of my friend AOKD. I let him know that I'm pulling up to his tent.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Okay. And we're going to make some bodies drop. But that's your boy from back in the day. Talk to us about the root of your AOKD friendship. Also, I'm just kidding. I'm not going to spray the tent up. Man, Katie, Katie, Katie used to, he used to be rapping with 15. KD used to be rapping with 15.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So that's how, okay, Katie used to be in the hood, too. Kaye used to be in the hood. Yeah, Katie used to be in the hood. 15 was fucking with him or he bought a feature for 15? No, 15, 15 was fucking with him. I'm fond of 15. He used to be at the Oregon Park and shit, really. Did AGO used to be a little different?
Starting point is 00:33:20 Yeah. He'd be over whooping now. Yeah, he'd be overwooping now, foe. He must be ultimate overwooper. He went that off back then. Oh, no. He went that out. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. But so what's your impression of him as a person? Like, do you still fuck with him? Yeah, I mean, he's cool. I fuck with him. He shouted me out to you. Shout out, shout out KD. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 He brought you up to me. I've seen him in his interview. I seen on Instagram. Bro. He, like, go ahead and look up fun. Yeah, I fuck with him. A lot of niggas dead. shit like if you're doing something
Starting point is 00:33:53 productive. You made it out the rack. How do you feel about him turning his life into a soap opera on Instagram to make people laugh? I blame Jay Man's. You know, that's a Jay Man effect? The Jay Man effect's great.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Jay Man, yeah. Jay Man gave birth to Big 22, man. Jay Man kind of like showed everybody that they could just sort of take their normal personality sauce it up 20, 30%. and just rock out. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Jay man, definitely gave you the sauce. I saw you. I saw you. It's kind of embarrassing to be that influence by somebody who's like 10 years younger than you, but hey.
Starting point is 00:34:34 What's going on with Kripak? He said that he thinks he's getting a three to five years. I heard the average charge for what he got hit with was five years. He got like three different gun charges. One of them's a ghost gun, but it's like a different charge because you couldn't fire the gun. So it's just like a gun with ammunition, which luckily he didn't find that out in a shootout.
Starting point is 00:34:56 That would have been upsetting. But I don't know. Yeah, they got him. The Fizz? Yeah. Damn, man. Free Crip Mac, man. We don't want to see nobody in jail.
Starting point is 00:35:06 That's an L.A. legend right there. Nobody. Yeah, I feel like they're picking on them before. They see him doing good. They're like, yeah, we got to make this black brother fuck up slip up and some type of way. When he had his bail hearing or whatever the other day, yeah, they were like, no. He's a menace of society. He's a flight risk.
Starting point is 00:35:22 He ain't getting out. That's crazy. They're definitely looking at him like, you're out here promoting gangbanging and making this shit look fun to the world, so they're extra on them, I feel like. Yeah. But definitely there's a lot of kids out here saying 55th straight.
Starting point is 00:35:40 People in Chicago tap them with Crickman like that? Say, no, not that I know. Not that I know. I just respect all culture, you know. Like, a lot of people think Chicago motherfuckers, like, overstuck up, like, we started this shit, this is all right. Shit, like, we're all so tough. You know, no, no. Nah, I respect everybody, what everybody got going on because it's killers everywhere.
Starting point is 00:36:02 There's rappers everywhere. Everybody doing the same shit everywhere. So you respect, like, New York drill and Jacksonville drill and all that? Yeah. That's, they putting their sauce on that shit, you know? Even if we did set the blueprint for anything, you know, like, everything of all, they put their sauce on that shit. They eating from that shit. They hustling from that shit.
Starting point is 00:36:21 That's what they're supposed to do. What's your relationship with fame is Richard? I don't got no relationship. Everybody heard that song besides me. I got to actually listen to it. Now I know how it goes from people singing it to me. I don't got no relationship with him. Like he was on some weird shit back then.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Like before he got, before he blew up and shit, because before I went to jail, he went, he went, blew up. And I, you know, like, I just used to, I, I've been, like, going viral on Instagram and shit like that, you know, and I guess he was beating. I thought he was from up north. I didn't even know he was, where he was, where he was. Where he was from?
Starting point is 00:36:58 Y'all know where he's from? Not exactly. I forget. Yeah. He definitely told us in-depth, but I can't remember. They say it from Minnesota. Yeah, I don't know where he's from. But he used to be tweaking, so I used to think, like,
Starting point is 00:37:10 I thought he's from up north and shit. Because, like, yeah, I thought he's from up north of shit. And he used to just be, like, trolling me, like, on my posting, like, like, this in my DM and shit, you know? So, and then I came home, he was lit. And I, I, I'll fuck with that. Like, even if, even if he was trolling me or on some fuck shit, I'd like to see anybody involved in from my shit, like, going up,
Starting point is 00:37:31 like, going famous, getting their bag, right, you know? So, but all that weird shit, he used to be on, I, I went, I won't fucking with that, so. So you still hold it against him from this bullshit back in the day? No, I don't, I don't hold nothing against him. It just, I went, when 16 asked me in my interview, like, what's up with him, I wouldn't, I ain't going to dick ride him and I you know because he was acting weird so just because you blew up since I came home at one go you know I don't hold none against no man though like you know that's that's a little shit got it yeah he's he's probably if he would admit it or not he's probably somebody that was
Starting point is 00:38:05 pretty influenced by jane yeah that's the jane effect again if I had to guess yeah jane controlling this shit right now ain't gonna lie they man he did he did his biggest one with this whoop shit yeah but where does he go with the whoops from here it's the question Man, he got to slide off into something else. The world might never know. He got to keep Elevin. He needs to, I was saying that yesterday. He needs to be like a comedian.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Keep writing jokes and keep coming up with concepts and shit. Because he got to, you know who's the go to that shit is Drusky? Yeah. Drusky, the funniest. In terms of internet comedians from hip-hop, I don't think anybody has ever been as funny as consistently as Drusky. You know his show? You know what's the name is.
Starting point is 00:38:46 What's his show? No, he got like a comedian. A comedian's a show. Yeah, yeah. The trial show thing. Yeah, could have been records. That's shit hilarious, man. You got to bring me on Could have been records, Joe. See, I never actually watched a full episode.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Let's watch the little clips and shit. They're doing full-blown YouTube videos and all types of shit now. That's smart. I've seen somewhere where you said that if you was GDK that you'll be bigger than what you are right now. Yeah. So you feel like the world side with the BDs? Like, why I make that statement? Yeah, I just feel like, I just feel like, like
Starting point is 00:39:21 Derry got to like the control of the industry right now, you feel me? Like, like everything. And that's how he posed to be because that's how he got it set up, you know? So I feel like, like, if you GDK in my city, the city gravitate towards you faster, you feel me? They gravitate toward you faster and they fuck with you because like everybody in line under that movement, you feel me? So it ain't, it ain't on, I don't see it like a lot of motherfuckers like, like,
Starting point is 00:39:49 overcry about it, you feel me, like I speak on it, but I ain't going to over cry about it because that just had the way this shit set up, you feel me? Everybody under that movement in my city, like, if you look at any rapper that's doing good in this shit, and that's like, be together, they all GDK, you feel me? They all
Starting point is 00:40:05 under that movement, so that's how that's how to go. So you feel like Rugal led the GD's in the dough? Hell no. I don't feel like he let the GDs in a dough. Like, that was my dog, you feel Like, I feel, I feel like he got on the stage, and he had what he at, but he ain't let nobody in though, like, there's a lot of shit that went on with me and folks, like, once he and out of eye
Starting point is 00:40:30 and got it to it, like, that happened, and, like, a motherfucker trying to handle a motherfucker from going where they're trying to go, you know? Yeah, because we talked to Flame, and I was watching your shit, and I'm slowly starting to feel like, hmm, Ruga, I don't know if you're prepared to really deal with these artists, because it feels like there's a decent number of artists that end up. up walking away from the shit not really too happy with their experience yeah and i wouldn't i wouldn't ever a artist over there like on some jat shit i wouldn't never trying to be jat i like be on that that that was just like my brother you know like i've been 6700 i've been from ingu
Starting point is 00:41:03 where i've been had my own hood but i i know i've been knowing him for the end of 10 years you know so that was just like my brother like i wouldn't never trying i wouldn't never a artist over there you feel okay that was just that was just my brother and he he accused me uh taken from him and like doing weird shit when I was locked up in jail and shit and like I just ain't fucking he he doubled down on it hard too like I was watching an Instagram live of him talking about it and he's he's not going for it at all he was saying that you definitely took it and he was FaceTime and somebody else who was confirming that you took the money yeah nah like that's weird shit like we
Starting point is 00:41:39 we in a car we go to we go to Vegas before we even went to Vegas I tell I tell I asked bro I'm like should I go to Vegas with them because we're supposed to be going to see the we're supposed to be going to see Sony in a couple of days. He's like, yeah, ain't no point to sit in the city. You don't need no idle time. He's like, just go out there to Vegas with them
Starting point is 00:41:56 and then see Big Boogie and shit because we went out there for Big Boogie and shit. So I'm like, that's good networking and shit. I'm a lot, I'm a slide out there. So before I even went out there, I had a motherfucker that sent him $1,000 because I needed some money to be in hand. So I'm like, he like, you could come,
Starting point is 00:42:12 you don't need no bread or none. I get everything. But I'm like, I don't want a motherfucker to ever hold shit over my head, you feel? me so I call my bro, I'm like, send him a band so when I get down that he could give it to me and cash. So we already had that agreement. He's trying to act like once his money went missing, I told my people start sending him money so he could give me money. If you feel like I took what, $1,500 from him, $1,500, whatever he said, if you feel like I took that much money
Starting point is 00:42:39 for you, why would you let my people send you a thousand and you give me another $1,000? So now you let me take $2,500 from you? Like, I will. I, I, I, I, I, you let me take $2,500 from you? Like, I want to understand, like, we already had that plan that you was going to give me a thousand. So, you know. So did Flame take it? No, Flame ain't. I don't think nobody took his money. He said, on the live, he on the lab, he said, I came down there.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I had $10,000 or whatever. When I left, I had, what, $8,000, $8,300. You gave me, you had $10,000. You gave me $1,000 because my people sent you $1,000. And then you gave Flame $500 because Flame didn't come down there with no money. You feel me? So he gave Flame $500. That's $1,500 right there.
Starting point is 00:43:21 So if he had $10,000 and he gave me $1,000 and gave Flame $500, how much money do he have left? That's $1,500 right? Right. So he got $8,500 left, right? This nigga ban lien and this nigga ban weed and this nigga ban everything because Fet A, don't got no money with him, Diva don't got no money with him, Travis don't got no money with him.
Starting point is 00:43:40 None of them came down there with no money. So he paying for all they food. He paying for they weed, they lean, they B and B so now you got $8,500 left and then when you check your money you had $8,200 left, where the fuck do you think all your money went? I don't know. I thought I seen him video where he said that he had like a stack of cash and then he walked away and he could tell somebody tampered with his cash.
Starting point is 00:44:04 No, he had he had a Louis Duffel bag. So I've been asked him to whether Louis Duffel bag when we was on the trip, you know? I don't got to lie about nothing because I'm a real nigga, you feel him like I ain't I asked him to wear his louis bag on front of him. He was like, he was like, no, we was at the show, the other show. So when we got to Memphis, his louis bag was on the bag. I got out the shower. We were supposed to get out of a headcoat, and I got out the shower.
Starting point is 00:44:27 They're gone. So I'm like, I'm like, then I call him. I'm like, why y'all leave me and shit? He's like, he like, we went to go get out of shit. You was in the shower. I'm like, I bet. So it's me, Fet A and Travis still in the crib, I think. So me and Fet A in the room, his louis bag on the bed.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I grab his louis bag. I'll put it on my outfit after I get in the shower. I'm like, I'll put my hand in the bag His bread and his bag So I feel his bread in his bag I close his bag up, I put it back on the bed Now me and FedEx is sitting in the room Now I leave out the room
Starting point is 00:44:57 And then, Rouging them come back We go back to the show Now we, in the car, we're driving I'm from to drive them back to the airport He's going to go to Calais We're going to come back to Chicago Him and track get to argument when we lead his throat He's like, man, you bitch-ass niggas, niggas,
Starting point is 00:45:11 I ain't want to bat me no cover with no ice we're out the band they get the argument and then flame like I mean not flame um um try I get that man yo bitch ass bitching about all this shit the motherfuck just stole fifteen hundred dollars from you and you don't even want to talk about it so I'm driving I'm like I'm like I'm gonna just stole 1500 dollars from you he man we only gotta talk about that shit I'm hell no man we need to pull this bitch over and search everybody right now in this bitch game these niggas these niggas stay with you these niggas you these niggas be around your kids like these niggas if they
Starting point is 00:45:44 steal it from you for we need to see who got this money I'm like you said muffa stole fifteen hundred dollars from that if they got $1,500 in dobs that mean somebody got that in this car so I even I even made this and that I'm all like we could get naked in a pocket lot and search everybody luggage anything we need to find this shit before we get on any plane he now man I don't want to fuck up the Vap yeah what you mean you don't want to fuck up the Vag gang on else so I I'm all right babe you don't want to fuck up the Vavs some you gonna let them take your money he man fuck that shit
Starting point is 00:46:14 He said he was trying to wait to see who would start spending money so he could tell who took it. Ain't no wait to see who's spending money. We're leaving. We're going home. We driving to the airport. When this situation came about, we driving to the airport. They plan with flame in the car. I don't know if they really wanted to be aiming this shit at me or a plant or if they really thought flame took it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But we in the car, folks, I think Devo Ags on Flame. He's like, you took folks money? Flame, look at Ruga. He, for you think I took your money, folks? because I'm the newest motherfucker to the group or something. He, he, he, he, he, he, no, for I ain't saying, I don't know who took my money. Anybody could have took my money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Yeah. It's just a lot of weird shit, like, and I, and I put, I put a lot of, like, that was my real dog. Like, I put a lot into that relationship, you know. I seen, then he'll make, like, an apology video where he tried to clear it up, though. Yeah, like, like, a video, but like a post. Like, yeah, he tried, like, we need to do this for Doug. We, I'm sorry, billion, black and fun. and all this and all that.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But I told him, like, even when I was in jail, he was trying to pay for my lawyer and shit and stuff, you know? Like, yeah. He's like, whatever you need to your lawyer or your bond or anything. And I needed a lawyer. My lawyer is $15,000, you know? I could have easily have folks pay the lawyer and get me out, but I turned that shit down, gang,
Starting point is 00:47:33 because I'm like, I'm not fun to take no money from you and you think I just took money from you, gang. Like, and you're my dog, like, I didn't, I didn't, a lot of shit, you know, a lot of shit, you know, a lot of shit ain't even gonna speak on this, on this internet shit, you know, to have folks know I'm coming, foe, like, and you're trying to play with me, and now you're trying to make, like, to the audience, like,
Starting point is 00:47:51 you sorry, he do that shit for internet views, and he thinks he knows how to control the internet and get a rise out of some shit, like with that shit, like, we ain't, you ain't tell me, you sorry on front of him, you ain't get on the internet. He said both of us need to go live and get on the internet and say we're sorry to each other. This shit we talk about on the phone, right,
Starting point is 00:48:09 why I'm in the jail. I say, all right, We could do that since you want to do that. Because we need to make the media seem like we steal and cahoots. And we need to be together, GD's this, GD's that, you know? Yeah. But then, but then I say, I bet we can get on live and do that. But if you get on live and tell him, hey, and take your money, then we can get on live and do that.
Starting point is 00:48:28 He said, oh, no, I can't get on live and tell him you ain't take my money. Because he's still on. But we can get on the live and fake for these people, like everything, Kumbaya, but you can't get on live and clear up that shit that you put on my name, you know? that's that's food nigger shit right though so he never confirmed you then take the money but he still don't want to clear it up because y'all could have just hopped in live but he said he said I took his money
Starting point is 00:48:50 but he wanted he wanted to get on the live and we apologize to each other and we're making up but he don't want to get on live and actually say like I don't know who took my money or did nobody take my money or a Fonzo didn't take my money or Farnzo on it to my money like we're not fun to get on live in fate that's not that's not what I'm fun to do you know
Starting point is 00:49:06 you don't think that y'all like should be able to You say I was rocking out for 10 years, though, so, like, over $1,000? Like, you don't think that's worth passing up? It ain't even about, it's about the principal of you trying to deface my name while I'm locked up. You feel me? Everything I'm building, you're trying to knock down. Like, I ain't even going to say no names or nothing because I should be working, you know. But a motherfucker told me, like, he had Columbia, even though he's not saying, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:32 He's about to stop you from getting your Columbia deal. Yeah, like, like, people be like... He denied that, like, crazy, too. Yeah, he denied that. just a real liar? Yeah, I know him. He know what he'd be doing. Because, like, your story and his story are, like, completely not compatible because, like,
Starting point is 00:49:49 he's just kind of denying everything that you're saying, and that makes me just look at the situation. But it's kind of like that with the Flame story, too. Flame got his version of it, and then Ruega got his version. Yeah, I don't even know Flame version. I don't even know what Flame said about nothing. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:05 What Flame had to say? Just the way it went down, like, I don't know. I won't get into the whole thing. But he basically, he denied taking the money. And he said that he's still fuck with you and shit too, though. Yeah, that's what you're still cool? Yeah, I ain't taught the flame yet, but because I ain't, I ain't know what really with the situation.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Hell, you feel it? But if he ain't, yeah, if he ain't throwing no dirt no motherfucking name, you know? You know, he ain't sounding them no more either. Yeah, I wouldn't never sign anymore. Yeah, but at one point, he was just rocking out with them, but he was actually signed. Yeah, he was saying, yeah. He ain't with them anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, that's because it's a lot of food shit going on over there, you know. But I fall rude up. I wish the best to him on phone now, you know. It's just certain shit you can't come back from. Do you think you guys could ever patch it up or does it seem unlikely? You just heard on certain shit, you just can't come back. It ain't. I asserted too much love, you feel?
Starting point is 00:51:02 But you know, years and years go by, a lot of times you can kind of start to forget. Like, I've seen a fool the other day that I know I don't like and I can't remember why. And he just came right up to me to shake my hand. And I just was like, man, I know I don't fuck with you, but I can't remember why.
Starting point is 00:51:16 It might get to that point. I'm following him. It might get to that point. It just, I was locked up for a whole year and you threw all this dirt on my name for a whole year. And now I'm home.
Starting point is 00:51:26 It's just like I'm supposed to be the one. I'm always that one. You feel me? I'm always the thorough one. I'm always the righteous one to be like, fuck that shit. But I'm tired of that shit,
Starting point is 00:51:35 you know? I'm tired of put my love, about their own fun. I'm tired of rocking now. I'm tired about being a real nigger and the motherfucker step out of you. And then they just want you to be the good guy
Starting point is 00:51:45 and come sweep the head thing under the table, you know? Is 65th Street Macblock? Yeah. That is MacBlock? Yeah, that's MacBlock. You posted a video, I think the video shoot got shot up
Starting point is 00:51:59 and I think you was like troll and you was like video shoot gone wrong or some shit. Yeah, no, I was like video shoot successful. Oh, successful? Oh, yeah. Yeah, post videos shoot.
Starting point is 00:52:07 But that is so, all right. So 65th Street is Mac Block. Yeah. So that's the hood that you said we can go shoot a music video at. Yeah. We saw our shit right there. They shot, I think they shot their shit right there, too. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I don't know what, what happened. I just seen that video on the internet. Yeah. Well, rappers from older. I told you that's our shit, too. That's our odd shit. We're from over that. We're from over that.
Starting point is 00:52:35 We really grew up. We really grew up. We really from my god. We might learn from the best. He learned from the best Yeah We're ready Just keep digging
Starting point is 00:52:42 That's Inglewood That whole little box Yeah That's all our shit My little My little brothers I don't got no little shorties
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'll Like all the videos Y'all the videos Y'all be seen on the end of like 6,700 shorties Like Like them ain't
Starting point is 00:52:55 Them my little brothers I don't got They're grown men They move How they move Shout out my little brothers Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:01 But they don't be tired Shout out A ball Man Yeah they be seeing Shorties So do you do a lot of drugs Because I
Starting point is 00:53:08 I was the more I listening to music the more I'm like oh he's talking about doing or I'm like I used to like pop 10 zanz a day like shit like I used to be out like yeah we used to be out of a lot of zanz and shit like do you not remember those times now I remember them time most of my Zan use I don't really remember that well I remember that time because I was doing I started popping zanz when I was 13 you know so I was doing zans always like what 20-21 start affecting a lot of people around me you know I could deal with myself, but once I started, like, affected, like, my family and everybody around me and my brothers, I got into a little situation that almost cost a lot. Yeah, and it was all because of the Zan, so I slowed down. Everybody got stories about shit that happened to them on Zanz
Starting point is 00:53:53 that would have never happened in a million years if it wasn't for Zanz. You said that, uh, Juice World died because of the niggas he was around and shit. You feel like, uh, they were, like, a bad influence on him? Yeah. Yeah, and I wouldn't even, that back then, I'd say, like, I kind of said that, like, out of ignorance, you know, like, when I comment on the net.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Because, like, I'll be off what I'd be off, and I'd be around my niggas, too, you know? So when I made that statement, I wouldn't, I would probably say I was whooping on that shit, you know? Because I'd be off all the peels, I'd be off, and if I just check out one day, because I pop some shit. And I'd be around for them. I don't feel like I'll be around the wrong, niggas, because phone them ain't pushing me. To do nothing, but shoot for the stars, you know. So if I wind up checking out one day some shit, that I want to say that's because there's niggas I'm around.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's a weird situation because on one hand, whoever put all those pounds on the fucking private jet or whatever, definitely was taking advantage of Jews World's fame to some extent. And we don't know who did it. Yeah, that's what I was getting at like with that, with that state. You can't really draw a straight line between the plane getting raided by the feds and him overdosing. Like, it's really, like, the most random circumstances.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Like, it's weird, but, like, you heard about a million people get the shit raided by the cops or whatever. Yeah. And it never ends like that. I was like, I was like, because why can he just, like, get off the plane with the P? I was like, you're this big ass right. I think that part's cap that he, like, scarf down. Yeah, like, he was already fucked up. Yeah, they said he's already drunk like a whole pint of lean before he even, like, got on.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I mean, I believe it was a very stressful situation. And that might have made him, like, have a condition and shit. But like, he was taking, like, like, like, 10 yorks a day though like he was yeah he was getting he was acting bad yeah and that's how i used to be though i don't know if anybody could have stopped like looking back at it like yeah i don't i don't know if there was anybody on earth who could have said hey you need to stop now slow down maybe i bet he had a lot of people that was kind of getting him to take one or two less a day but his documentary like it was they was trying to get him like to slow down like his girl and shit but
Starting point is 00:55:59 because he's one of the only people that one time i went to one of his shows and this was so kind of earlier. This was before he was like a huge star because it was at the Novo and he was on tour with like Y being Corday and shit and I just like you know went in back and was trying to talk to him and he was so fucked up off the pills that like he couldn't even really talk to me. He was just kind of like listening to music with like one earpad, earbud and just like rocking out and I'm like bro, how are you doing? Like it was weird like he could only look at me for a second and like his words were hard to understand and I was realizing like oh he's stupid fucked up right now.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, that's what happened. I'm not really used to being around my friends when they're like that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Rest in peace. So. Yeah, rest of the Juice World Day today?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Is it today? Yeah. Today's the day. It's today. I think the concert today at the United Center in Chicago, right? Wow. I think we're supposed to be there. I had some tickets back.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yaku, with Bibby and G Money? Um, we ain't, we ain't. We ain't. We cool. We got people from over there. Like, we got people from over there. Let's see, like, we ain't, we ain't in tour with them or none. I wouldn't say we got a relationship with them or not,
Starting point is 00:57:13 because we don't know them personally, but we got people, like, in their camp. So it wouldn't be weird for y'all to go to the juice world. Yeah, no, it wouldn't be weird. Like, that's what a lot of people be, like, a few people be, like, a few people. Like, how can you be around certain motherfuckers? Like, it's because my mindset is to shoot for the stars, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:32 It's a lot of motherfuckers out here shooting for the stars, you know? It's a lot of motherfuckers out here shooting for the stars and stuck in that mindset and just being stuck in the trenches, you know? I'm not on that mindset. So I'm not, you're not going to go to an event and kill or do anything you're going to do in the streets inside this event.
Starting point is 00:57:46 So that's how motherfucker could be around a motherfucker at this place or around this place, you know? People just be stuck in a certain mindset and they'd be stopping them from making so much money and just, you know, a lot of shit. Basically, like, you're a GD, you have issues with different people, but you don't feel like you are part
Starting point is 00:58:03 of this like overall like GDP thing. I don't feel like I'm a part of that. You got to hold on to that because that shit holds back so many Chicago artists. Like if you could stay in that zone where like, you know, they don't care about you like that. And who's going to fuck with me? They're going to fuck with me. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:58:20 Because a lot of motherfuckers are probably feeling like, oh, no, we can't fuck a short because it ain't going to be no okay. But a lot of motherfuckers fuck with me. So whoever's going to fuck with me, going to fuck with me, whoever's not. It's a few of y'all that get that. past where y'all kind of like could bounce around because I feel like Rico Reckles
Starting point is 00:58:37 got that same kind of like lane where he can. That's that that Lameen made himself too though. Yeah, a lot of people, a lot of people, Jay Mane switched his whole air thing around.
Starting point is 00:58:50 But sometimes you mention J-Man around some BDs and you realize they really don't fuck with him. Yeah. Yeah, because they know a lot of us don't forget stuff. Nemo was saying he ain't funny. He's just like, that shit ain't funny.
Starting point is 00:59:02 That shit corny. Yeah. A lot of my friends don't forget. I got to ask this, though. All right, so your homie, bankroll, BT, he got called talking to transgender. My man. Shit. I don't.
Starting point is 00:59:18 He said, my man. But I've seen you say some shit where I think you said that even if that was the case, that'd still be your boy. You ain't really just going to be looking at whom. No type of way. Like, oh, you would still rock out with him. Yeah, I see, I say, even if that is the case, like, that's my that's my brother that's somebody I grew up with
Starting point is 00:59:36 since a shorty you know and Ben did did a lot of shit with and seen seeing a lot of shit like like slip on each other flows like like that's a motherfucker from the gutter you know so even if that is the case I'm like that don't got shit to do with me or what I got going on or that ain't tarnished in my image that ain't I don't represent none of that you know but if that was the case that's my brother you know I'm not gonna let nobody play with him
Starting point is 01:00:02 because I got gay cousins and gay and gay people in my family that I've been gay since I was assured, you know, I don't hold nothing towards nobody that's with that lifestyle and that's whatever they own, you know? I'm on me, I'm my own person. So that's my brother. I want to let nobody get on bullshit with them for them because we've been in the streets, you know?
Starting point is 01:00:27 So just because that shit happened, and what for a thing, they're going to be like, all right, yeah, we're going to kill him. We were going to do something to him. Hey, a motherfucker, I've been, been going through some shit with him since I was a shorthy. Expect a motherfucker to be like, no, I'll just leave him out to die. Nah, that ain't, that ain't going on, you know. That's just how I'm coming.
Starting point is 01:00:47 A lot of, a lot of niggas ain't going to respect that. A lot of niggas and be like, no, you should ban him, exile him, leave him to death. Yeah. That ain't. That ain't. That ain't how come from. You are. And ain't nobody going to play with me on my father.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Niggas know that, though You said that you've been known Rougar for like 10 plus years So did you ever know Duck and Lil J? I ain't, I ain't know them like over personally I've been around them I've been had conversations with them Like, we ain't been I'm from, I'm from Inglewood, you know
Starting point is 01:01:19 I'd be out of south on front of them I fuck I'd be on the lowly hand on front of them I fuck with a couple motherfuckers From other hoods I fuck with members, you know I don't on on on fuck with like necessarily whole hoods, you know. I got people where I got family.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I got people where I got brothers that I fuck with a couple of members and niggas that's thorough, you know. I was watching an interview where you were talking about your biggest songs, and you mentioned the song Ruga and how it had like a million plus views or whatever. So I go to search it up to watch it, and it got 15K views, and it's on a random channel. That's what I realized he must have took it down
Starting point is 01:01:58 after you guys fell out. He deleted it. I'm like, that's a real bitchy because soon as he hit the meal, he deleted it. Like, he's like, oh, yeah, I can't have them numbers on his name with him on phone. Let me delete that. Like, I was just like, they're like, this all weird shit.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Like, I'm in jail. Like, you being real, real right now. Damn, that's some real hate. Yeah. Taking the video down. Like, and he knows, he like, he's like, oh, no, that's something that he got numbers with. Let me go ahead and take that off his catalog.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Let me go ahead and take that bitch down. That's crazy. Yeah. That's like he's willing to hurt himself, to hurt you more. Basically. Because if it's on his channel, he's making money off it,
Starting point is 01:02:36 and he's like, nah, fuck that money. I don't want you getting any money. I don't want him to eat no type of way. No, I was actually on Billy Channel,
Starting point is 01:02:43 though, Billy Cock. Oh, okay. So he had to tap in with someone else to make them deleted. Damn.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It gets deep. He deleted all this shit too. Yeah, he deleted my boyfriend too. That's crazy. Because KJ got on his ass when I was locked up.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Definitely. What's your relationship? shit with MAF, Tiski? I don't know Tisky. I fuck with Tisky, though, in front of him. Shrity, sure he took out. I was in jail. I was hearing about, that's how I was hearing about,
Starting point is 01:03:11 because, you know, I'm standing to him while I'm behind walls, you know? I'm like, who going up out there? They're like, Little Lov, Tisky, swag, 2100. He passed. He's from Chicago. He was going up, like, with Tisky. But I was hearing about them. So, I don't got any relationship with him, but I fuck with his music.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I'm not. Chopping it up and shit. No, I ain't. Remo's asking you that because his interview is next. Yeah, yeah, I know. Make sure you guys aren't bump into each other or something. Yeah, no, I know. Yeah, I'll talk to his cameraman.
Starting point is 01:03:41 All right. We already, because I'm sued to shit with his cameraman, so I already know they all right. I downplay it. Like, I ain't know. Yeah, I asked. I asked him like, yeah, they're supposed to be on the slide here. I was like, eh. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Every once in a while when we look at the schedule. I already know they got late at the slack. He like, oh. Every once in a while I look at the schedule and it's like, two Chicago dudes in a row and then you're gonna start just Googling their names together to be like, did they hate each other? Is it good or what?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're doing this thing. Last question I got, you and Reggie, you used to do skits and shit, right? You did a skit with him, right? Yeah, I fuck with Rezzy. Free Reggie. You ain't locked up?
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah, how long he even locked up? Like a year and a half. Oh, shit. Almost a deuce, yeah, like a year and a half. Yeah, free Reggie. That he put me on, like, on the scene, like with the skits and shit, you know? like with all the comedies and shit
Starting point is 01:04:30 because I got some shit I got some shit coming with corporate I gotta stick I'm gonna do with corporate coming up corporate from Chicago Yeah Uh huh
Starting point is 01:04:39 Oh for sure Big big homie blocks Yeah Yeah that's my boy too Yeah I fuck with the comedian community I be on that type of time too That's who gets you
Starting point is 01:04:48 Gets you going in this game these days Yeah Needs are a lot of the comedians Not the DJs The DJs ain't doing shit for you Yeah and it'd be like Like If you go viral on the internet
Starting point is 01:04:58 and then you could rap or you could do anything all that you're going viral you could just put that into what you're doing you know and that's it that's how I did like with this raping shit you know I was already going viral and that for air thing you know and then I just I've been rapping so I just applied that to that and that shit took off

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