No Jumper - Freeway Ricky on Running TRell’s Block, Rick Ross Lawsuit, Snowfall & More

Episode Date: February 13, 2022

T-Rell sits down with Freeway Rick Ross to pick his brain about how he turned his life around, share his experiences and what he has in the works. https://www.instagram.com/freewayricky/ https://www.instagram.com/_kingtrell/ ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz  Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up y'all? I'm back, man, T-Rail, and I'm here with my boy Freeway Ricky Ross, an entrepreneur, a kingpin, a father, all around just that nigger, man. I just, I can't believe I am sitting here with you today. I cannot believe it. I feel like I manifested this talking about you so much. Yeah, you didn't talk about me? spoke about you so much in my life of living. I feel like I've been around you. I feel like I know you. I've gave so many stories and just glorifying the fact that, you know, even my mom knew you. Wow. And it's just an honor to be here with you. I just can't believe it. Well, you know, when the moms know you, that kind of rubs off on the kids. So yeah, I already understand. I know how that can go. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. but, I mean, you know, you've been doing your work.

You know, you're in a great spot. You know what I'm saying? No Jumper. I did No Jumper about, what, five years ago, six years ago. You know, I did it with Adam. And it was a cool show, you know, I was good at interviewing the end, but I wasn't doing really well financially. You know, I was still, like, you know, struggling.

Oh, when you got out? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've been out 13 years now, but it took a while. It took a while, even though, you know, I did my homework, you know. My homework was done and everything was in order, but this system wasn't ready. Yeah. You know, sometimes you can be ready, but the system ain't ready and it still don't work right. I mean, but you, it was going to come to you regardless because I feel like everything that I heard about you

and what I know about you, you know, besides the dope thing, besides selling drugs, you was a good dude, man, and you took care of everybody, and everybody just loved you wholeheartedly. Yeah. Like, everything I know, everything I know about you is just straight, positive. And that's the plan. You know, you want to take care of everybody. And I'm not saying that I take everybody the way they want to be taken care of because I don't. But I try to do a little bit for everybody that I can, you know, just touch me.

that that might have been just enough to push you across that line you know what I'm saying it'll get you just a little closer to that line where you feel like I can make it now you know what I'm saying yeah I almost gave up I almost gave out you know so I try to touch as many people as I can I think touching people is one of the greatest gifts that you can that you can have is to to be able to reach out and push somebody else, you know, across the line or up a little higher, you know. Yeah, I feel like this interview is kind of way more different than all the rest of your interviews, because for one reason, I was there in these scenarios, you know, like different scenarios. Like, for one, one moment when you got out of jail for the second time and you had, like, this theater on, like,

Crenshaw Adams. That was the first time. That was the first time you got out. Yeah, the first time you got I was there. You came by my old theater? I was there and just I was a kid but just just feeling like the whole vibe and everybody in the whole war. They like Ricky bought to come in. Ricky bought to come in. It's like you was like fucking Superman niggins. I'm like you you actually came in and it was just like a split second. I'm like damn that's that nigga. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like Jay-Z, you feel me? But it was like I was a kid, but they just held you to so much of a pedestal that I felt like you was a superstar. And I started to try to hold that status as well. And that's kind of how I got in trouble, you know, because that theater had became my identity. And I felt that had I lost that theater, which I was losing it, I was $30,000 behind on my note.

And I'd invest a lot of money. You know, I put $900. $950,930,000 down as a down payment. And then I was paying my whole five years in jail. I was paying $6,000 a month note, you know, in the 80s. So no 90s, 80-90s. So I had put a lot into that building, you know, to save it. And I knew that that building was like my key. Well, I thought it was, you know, I thought that that building was my key to the city.

You know, I thought that that was going to be the way that. that I did what I'm doing now. Changing lives. Yes. Yeah, I mean, I was there, man. I had some grand plans for that thing, man. Because what I recognize, when I recognize is that a lot of our celebrities

were scared to come to the hood. And so what I wanted to do is I wanted to make a safe haven where they would feel comfortable with coming. Because, you know, they almost feel comfortable by coming on Crunchyaw. You know, they'll come.

Not all the way down in Crunchyaw, but that was still kind of, like West Crenshaw. You know what I'm saying? Because if you go down by the Fox Hill Mall, start getting better and better, low-key. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what the theater was at was kind of bad, but you know, you're only about, what, three miles away from Hollywood. Yeah. You know, Hollywood is right there, and then you can jump on the Santa Monica Freeway and be there.

And, you know what I'm saying? You can be on the Sonneumonical Freeway in one minute. So I just had a plan and, you know, I went to talk to the West Boulevard and I went and talked to the avenues and you know I asked them would it be all right if I'd be over there

yeah you know and could I do what I wanted to do you know I wanted to build this elaborate theater you know where all the rappers came and and I had some big rappers was coming down there and Banks came down DJ pool

chocolate cube didn't never come down but we talked surge inks coming down yo-yo came down I mean they was coming Dre passed by one day

I remember the day Dre passed by I was like damn Dr. Dre passed by here he didn't stop but he pulled up to the front and looked over and it took off I said well he know I'm here

yeah he in there yeah so I had some elaborate plans for it but now I know that the government couldn't see me with that building. That building was just going to be too, I mean, just too dynamic, you know.

I mean, they can't see us with nothing right now. Even doing that, it was just so special, just me being there. Like, that shit was just a special moment. Like, and I remember, you know, off the subject, I remember you said something on Vlad TV about, like, damn, like my kids, like, I'm in this dope game so crazy and all of that.

And my mom didn't want to move out the hood. You feel me? And then I see my kids on the street. And I'm like, if a motherfucker touch my kids, man, it's going to be crazy. Yeah, yeah. That was crazy. That was crazy. At times, I was one of them kids out there. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like, at times I was one of them kids out there. And it's just so crazy to be sitting next to you. We always explaining this shit to people and people like, man, you're full of shit. You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, nah, feel me? Well, you know, sometimes if you don't, if you don't actually. experience it, you can't understand it.

You know, even with people who I know who read the news articles and stuff like that, they still don't really get it, you know, the jest of what it's like to be there. You know, like, it's crazy that we're doing this interview today, man. One of my boys just got, he's been out about a year maybe. And we ain't really kicked it, you know. know what I'm saying? When he got home, you know, he thought I was going to have a car for him and the whole nine yards. And I didn't, you know, I wasn't doing great, you know, like, shit.

I'm glad you're saying that because when you went to jail around that time, I seen a dramatic change in everybody life on my street. You feel me, like on 88th and Broadway. Like, I seen a... You was on 88th and Broadway? I was on 88th and Broadway. I seen a dramatic change as a kid. On what side of Broadway? on Ruby side on that same street you stayed on this on the street with Miss Ruby's day

at yes sir I stayed across the street from Mary oh you stayed across street from Mary yes sir wait a minute you gotta be what's in a son I'm Denise son you Denise's son yes sir then yes sir which one not the one that was managing tiger I know Denise I know she had two sons right yes so one i know the tiger manage the tiger's shit you can one managing tiger okay okay yeah yeah yeah i ain't seen you since i first got out i know man i said i only had a conversation with you here and there we barely met but i was always in my life so tiger shit you know i remember when you was a little boy you know you know me and your mama was was way cool yeah that was one of my people and um and really her whole family you know me and uh the other sister what's her name

Bev. Yeah, me and Bev used to be in the same classroom. Damn. So your mama was a little older than us. But yeah, yeah, we go way back, man.

Come on. Stop me. And then, man, you kicked it. We kicked it at a basketball game or two. You know, and I was trying to mess with Tiger. And I know you was, you was, yeah, but it wasn't the right setting.

I was just trying to get my, you know, do what I can do and keep my foot in the dough as best as I can to, you know, to feed myself and whoever, you know, my family around that time. So I know, I know, you had plans and you was do you was I'm talking about the battery was in the back you was ready to go like what can I do you know what I'm saying trying to get the foot of the dough like yeah I'm

like yeah he ready you feel I didn't care it was real yeah it was real yeah it was real calling my mama like this dica really he really doing it you know saying like the energy we snuck in that basketball game that night we snuck in the staples center yeah that's we snuck in that motherfuck and then I got all the way from I went from the top to the bottom you know Danzel when boy went down and told Zanzil Rick up there and so Danzile made all the urges and led us all the way to the floor and we saw you in Tiger that night

I think that might have been the last time I saw y'all too. Yeah that's crazy bro yeah and she we made it all the way down but we snuck in that night shit we had no money bought no ticket without saying about the absence you know yo and the whole

aura like I actually witnessed that shit like you're going to jail and then people just going like this. Oh yeah, yeah. The homies couldn't hold it up. The homies couldn't hold it up. When I got home, man, when I was in jail, I was a little pissed at the homies, you know? I'm like, man, these motherfuckers ain't sent me nothing, you know? Like, how do you make that, how do you feel about, you know what I'm saying?

Like, your absence affecting, like, the way they move in life and just, just in general, like, they were just all fucked up everybody and just couldn't hop on their own to and do it. You know, one of my partners, who I put in that category, called me this morning at 5 o'clock. And he made a statement. He said, I can tell you how to do it. I can show you how to do it, but I can't get it for you. Right.

I can't learn for you. I can't get the concept for you. You have to get it for yourself. And when he was telling me that, I understood that people got to get it for you. they self. You know, you've got to learn the concept. I can do all that I can do, but I can't make you get it. And until you get it, you ain't going to have it. Yeah, because I figure, I'm like, this man, he really is a part of my life because at one point, everything was crazy. I seen two corvettes in front of my house with my daddy. You know, my mama having shit, Gucci,

purses, bags, and shit, mean coats and the whole thing. You know what I'm saying? Mary, across the street ride beach cruisers was, you know what I'm saying, nice matching sweatsuits. I remember this shit i'm like it's cold much be cold you know what i'm saying and you go down it was over with you know what i'm you know we we in the hole so you know and we had to climb out it took us a long time man to climb out do that but i was glad to see you when you was in the rap gang you know when you was doing the to get down with tiger and in the whole nine yards you know i was proud of you because i mean you're still like my nephew you know what i'm saying it's crazy that we sit here i don't even know who you was but yeah yeah I was telling people man I had a couple interviews and you know on a podcast

and I'm telling people like man my mama was a cleaning lady for him she used to clean houses she used to do this man I used to see money on the table and I used to steal your money I was a kid I stole your bread for sure you didn't get that much you don't know what money nah I didn't but it was all over the table you know I was sitting in prison and I used to be like man why everybody just wanted to take my clothes? clothes to the cleaners. Man. And then somebody told me, said, you always need money in your pocket.

A lot of it. She was like, no, don't touch you. Don't touch it. She was a good lady, man. Shout out to Denise, man. She was good, man. She was putting it back, man. She really was putting it back, man.

That's my girl, Denise. She really was putting it back. That's crazy, man. Her mom doing? I ain't seen her. She's great, man. She's great. She's doing her thing.

You know, heavily pies, still baking. Yeah, she's baking them pies still. Yeah, she's baking them. So she got to do some vegans. I'll do the vegan. I'm a vegan now. Oh, you're a vegan? Should you do the vegan boys?

I've been vegan 31 years, you know. I've got to get rid of this gut, though. Messing with them, messing with them vegan cookies, man. And the vegan cookies knocked me down. But I'm back doing a little workout now, so. Shoulder, it's a little stronger. Yeah. Get my push-up game on.

And just, you know, getting ready. You know, I'm getting ready because I'm going to have all this money. Oh, yeah, because you said you've been to put in the movie game. movies weed you know i'm gonna be the weed king oh okay yeah i'm gonna be the weed king i'm gonna take over boxing you know this boxing is mine man you gotta let me get in there you got to let me get in there especially the movie i got to get in there somewhere because i know you don't like the little snowfall shit so get me in there i'm the real deal you know me and david myrars is getting ready to do a show based on snowfall wow yeah he came up with our idea well he said man they ain't give me no

money for that shit let's do something to get some money off of it. Man, I watched that shit. It was actually good. I said, shoot. Oh, shit. So we getting ready to do a little podcast on Snowfall. I ain't never even watched no far, man. I got to watch that shit, you know, now.

Hard for me, though. You know, I hate watching that fiction shit, you know. Muffer's making up shit. Like, why y'all making that shit up? We live this shit. You got real motherfuckers out here that live this life, you know, that really done that shit. You had to make this shit up. We got some stories for your ass, but, you know, the people who run Hollywood, they mad at me, too.

You know, I gave him the finger. I mean, like you're supposed to, because you're all independent, man. You're trying to work and do your own thing. Yeah, I ain't ever had no boss, man. Come on, stop it. And you're going to tell me I got to take orders from Mark Wahlberg? Come on. Who is Mark Wahlberg?

Yeah. To tell me what to do, you know? Man, like, freeway rig, like, when I, When I preach your name of certain people, like certain gangsters are like certain niggas and shit like that. They love me in jail. Yeah, they do. They do.

Them jailhouse motherfuckers love me, man. But then they got some motherfuckers that always want to give me the story like, he wasn't always the biggest motherfucker. He wasn't the only biggest motherfucker. Well, you know, they tell me that too, right? They come up. Man, who was the biggest? You were a big meet.

Yeah. I said, I don't know, but I know who's going to be the richest this time. Because, you know, they never glorify Los Angeles. I mean, not Los Angeles, but the West Coast, you know what I'm saying? Geez, that was really doing it, too. It's always the East Coast and the South. And, like, they're always bigging them up. And then you just, like, really represent for the whole coast.

But it was some, you know, some heavy hitters. I got one, like, Thomas Tootie Reese. You know what I'm saying? That's my idol. That was your idol. Yeah, man. You got any stories about Tootie, man? Well, you know, it took a long time before.

before I met Tudy. I used to seem, you know, Tudy had a convertible, a red convertible portion, and I was seeing buzz by, you know. Uh-huh. And I'd be like, man, be like Tudy.

That's crazy. Because Tudy was the real super fly. Yeah. And, uh, man, Tudy and them got busted. Mm. Him and Kevin Morgan

and a couple other people, they got busted doing a, doing a deal with a, with a, with a DA agent. And, uh, so I finally came up,

you know, I probably was a couple hundred thousand dollars strong. I wasn't really that strong. But this is like what houses at that time was in our hood. You remember the house I had on Grand? Yeah. Yeah. I just got that house.

I was fixing that house. So the dudes who was remodeling in the house for me knew Tootie. Wow. So they was like, man, I know Tootie. I was like, man, I love Tootie, man. So they were like, man, you want me to set up for you to go meet? Tudy just died like two years ago or so. He died about three.

I think it was right before COVID. So they was like, man, you want us to go set it up and go meet Tudy? I was like, hell yeah. So they set it up and I went over and met with him. He tried to sell me some work, but I was like, my price is better than yours. I didn't tell him that, though. But, you know, that was the deal.

And what had happened is in the game, I had passed Tudy. You know, I went past my idol. You know, I was buying more work. at that time than he was. So, but it was just a pleasure meeting him. You know, I only met him at one time, too. We never, I never called him again. And, you know, he went off and did his time.

And when he got out, I didn't reach out for him. But yeah, he was, he was one of my idols. And then the other one was Little Willie. You know, I met Little Willie. Little Willie came down to my time wheel shop one day. Just, you know, like just popped up. And then, and then there was Fast Eddie at the Steakhouse. Steakhouse Eddie, you know, that was another old, you know, who was older than I was,

you know, guys that I looked up to and that I wanted to model my career after. And then David Child popped in on the scene. He was also, you know, in the league as well. Did Brett Mitchell, you know what I'm saying, ring a bell? Yeah, I know Brett. That is crazy. Brett Mitchell Chevrolet? I used to go up to his house and beat his ass and ping pong.

Wow, man. Yeah. This is great stories, man, that people. need to know, man, because it was a lot of cats out here that really was doing it. I think me and Brett was my girl was Brett's girl's half-sister, you know, and we didn't even know that until after we started, you know, hanging out kicking in that they was half-sisters. But yeah, yeah, I knew Brett. So why did they kind of glorify you as, you know, that guy?

Because, you know what I'm saying? I don't know if I got the story right, like you was getting your work from a CIA agent. He was a CIA operative Yeah Which is different than being an agent He couldn't be an agent Because he was a foreigner But what happened is

Is When he got busted He became an informant So an informant is technically an agent But they don't call them Agents You know They're informants

And he couldn't be an agent Because of his His status Not being American citizen But yeah How that fuck you do all of that, you know what I'm saying, and didn't know how to read and doing all, like going to jail. And didn't have no money.

I started with $125. I started that shit with $1.25 in the ground and that shit grew. Man, because you, I need to know niggas that's in jail. If you feel like you didn't, you didn't do the crime, man, don't give up on your case. You feel I'm feeling? And you're like a perfect example of not giving up, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no, I became obsessed with winning my case. You know, you had to become obsessed.

It's like right now, I'm obsessed with taking over boxing. Yeah. I'm obsessed with taking over weed. Yeah. I'm obsessed with taking over this movie industry. You know, I'm obsessed with these things. So when those become your obsession, I mean, you know, I neglect a lot of stuff. Yeah.

My kids say I don't give them enough time. But, you know, it's some sacrifices that got to be, man. Like, you want to keep wearing them tennis shoes? You had let me keep buying them. Yeah, for real. I mean, yeah, I know you was up. since I mean, my mama even said she was getting some calls and she was doing some things for you. She went down to, you know, grab some shit for you to try to help you with your case at times and shit like that.

And I'm like, no, your mom stayed down. She stayed down. She's the real home girl. Yeah. She's the real home girl. And it was motherfuckers like that with my mom and they just still had so much hope and just gave you, you know, so much. It was so much crazy. Mary was like that too.

Mary and Karen. I talked to Karen like a week ago. her daughter, Summer's boyfriend need a job, and so they want me to try to get my kid because you know I got a dispensary too. Yeah, my mom told me about that too. Yeah, so they want to know

if I would give him a job at the dispensary, but I finally was a professional dancer, so I want him to come and teach my kids how to dance, you know. I don't want to be tennis players like me. You know, tennis player, but you can't dance. You know, I go to the party. I have to stand up against the wall.

Yeah, my mama used to clean Karen in them houses. too like, man, that's just so much history there, bro. Yeah, she started that little cleaning service. She did good with that little cleaning service. She was cleaning everybody housed in L.A. Yeah, she was doing it up, man. I think she had a couple girls working with it for a little while. You know, she had really turned, turn that thing up.

You know, she wasn't with that game, though. You know, she didn't want to touch that. Yeah. You know, she was doing all right with her little cleaning service. I was glad that she started it. You know what I'm saying? Because we want somebody that we, you know, you don't want to know anybody in your house. You know, like, man, I can't have no anybody coming over here.

They're going to know all my secrets, you know. Yeah. So, you know, you need somebody that's trustworthy, you know, that ain't going to, you know, tell people how to get in your house. And, you know, where you keep all your shit. And so, you know, having her on board was definitely a blessing. And, you know, I appreciate it. But, you know, we all grew up together. You know, we went to Manchester Elementary School together, Breadheart.

I did too. So, damn. You know, that shit is just so crazy. Just hearing these stories from you just right here. Like, that's it. I want to go back into your younger life because I feel like we got so much in common. Like, you say you used to go to the skate ring and I love skating. I'm like, Dad, I used to go to the skate ring.

And you said, you used to have your burner with you, you know what I'm saying? Because the 60s used to be up there. And I did the same motherfucking thing. Yeah. And then I was good with the 60s, you know. Well, at first, they didn't even know me at first. You know, it took a while because I used to slide in there and nobody knew me. Yeah.

You know, and then, I mean, the first time I went, I went with Haney. You know, Haney had on all the gold and the rings and everything. So all the girls was all over, you know. And when nobody gave me no action, you know what I'm saying? I'm sitting there. I'm playing, Jane, you know. Probably got on some Levi's white T-shirt, you know, and I'm just chilling, you know, with a pocket full of money.

Yeah. one of my girls, baby mama, pulled up on me. She knew who I was and she pulled up, you know, and started hollying there and I would be coming the skating just to grab her, you know. And that's when all the 60s started to know me, Pedy Wack and who else was down there? I can't even remember all the names, but Wack definitely was one of the main ones. You know, he was the hellraiser at that time. He was Mr. 60s.

Yeah, how was it? How did you, like, keep that balance? Because, like, how tied in were you with the Hovers? Like, you're right in their hood. Like, this nine, do's nine-four. You had Manchester Park. I grew up with the Hoosers. You know, I mean, you know, that's why everybody think I'm a Hoover.

And the Hoover's in the jailhouse, the Hovers claim me. For sure. That's being a Hoover. So, you know, it's just that homeboy relationship, you know, where we grew up together. You know, they went to Manchester. They went to Bradhart. in Washington and Fremont. So we all just been tight, you know, Lauren Miller.

You know, my cousins went to Lauren Miller. So we would go over to Lauren Miller sometimes and, you know, just had that companionship. Like I said, Antonio, who I was with today, was the founders of the 9-4, you know. Yeah. And he just got out, man. And it was funny, you know, being around him and, you know, he still got his pants creased. He did 40 years. He did 40 years.

He probably still go to the cleaners. Yeah, still going to the cleaners. He got on the Pendleton jacket. And so you said I got my VIP wrist on right here. So, you know, big person and him had their golf tournament today. So I took him over to the golf tournament. You know, all of, you know, everybody in the game at hanging out. And, you know, they got on their Rolexes.

And I was like, man, this is where it's at. And all of their chicks, you know, and they holl in, hey, Rick. And, you know, the players give me daff. And he was like, man, they really like you. I say, man, you got to change up, man. You can't go ahead. But you still ain't even really that type of name, like the flossy and getting up out there, you know what I'm saying,

change on from me? I ain't got a floss though. Yeah. See, I got this, I got this aura, this little thing about me, this bigger than a Rolex, you know, that's bigger than a gold chain. And I was just like, this is it when I went up there today. Yeah.

Like, this is me, man. You know, this is how I rode. You know, I ain't got to put on no chains. I ain't driving no fancy. cars. But I get that love and that respect, you know, because of my thinking, you know, my principles. Some people need to buy, you know, that car to have some principal, you know. But really the car don't get you principles, you know, just give you a little flare. A little short time flare because, you know, two years is old and then it's an old car. So when you, when you have,

that build-in flair about yourself you know you don't need all of those trinkets you know to to dress yourself up and and make yourself look shiny yeah i don't even buy clothes man i'm just out here my girl buy my clothes man shout out to her i just be putting it on man but i told one of my homies i'm like man i'm gonna talk to a freeway tomorrow he like tell this nigga this story see if you remember it and he was like uh he played tennis right man man, this white boy was trying to hustle this nigga, man, and palm lock or something, whatever jailhouse y'all was in. He was like, this white boy named Daniel Bank.

Yeah, Lonpa. Danny. Yeah, he said, Danny didn't know. Yeah. Danny didn't know. He didn't know. He didn't know. He didn't know.

What was that, Nicky that Daniel Bang? Danny Banks. Danny in Hawaii. That's my man. We still, we got to be really, really good friends. Yeah, Danny thought he could beat me. So you still good at tennis? not as good as I used to be, but, you know, I mean, I played at a high level.

You know, I played at a high level. Not at the top pro level, you know what I'm saying, but at a high level, you know what I'm saying? The college level, you know. So if you didn't play college, you ain't going to beat me, especially if not if you my age, you know. So, you know, Danny was, you know, he was there holding down the tennis courts at Lompark And, you know, when I drove up off the bus, you know, I didn't have no shit on or nothing. Come on, stop. There ain't no dude in jail.

You don't have to play tennis in jail? You think you're going to beat me? Where are your money at? Yeah, put it up. Yeah, give me some books, y'all. Give me a couple books and stamps. Let me get these. Yeah.

So, yeah, yeah, I beat up on Danny. But, yeah, Danny, Danny hit me a couple weeks ago, sent me a little text, you know. He said, man, come to Hawaii. Yeah, so, yeah, Danny Banks. That's my man. Yeah, man. Who was that telling you that story? This is one of my homies.

His name's Steve-old, man. His name's Steve-O, Stevie-Stevenson, man. I know Steve-O. I know Steve-O. It might not be the same one. But, yeah, every pen I went to, you know, I killed him in tennis. You know, they wasn't ready in their tennis. I taught tennis.

You know, they used to pay me $25 an hour in jail. I was getting $25 an hour to teach tennis. In jail? In jail. I was getting $25 an hour. And had a clientele. You know, I could teach four, five lessons a day sometimes. You know, I make good money.

Yeah. For jail. For jail. For jail. though. That's cool, though. They kept the locker full, you know, the zoom, zooms and wham-wams. And then, you know, I would take the zooms-z-oom-z-oam and sell them out two for one.

Hey, bring me back. Bring back two for one. See, a lot of people in my culture, a lot of people, like, not in my culture, but a lot of people my age, probably a little younger, don't know as much about you. So, and, you know, they just, they learn in a, they learning a little bit more about you just through the Ricky Rose thing and a free rate. I can't learn nothing about the men with that, that does. Yeah, I mean, and they really don't know. It's just like, that dude don't know nothing about. He just, he just saw a hot name, you know what I'm saying?

He thought it was abandoned, you know, he thought I was going to get a life sentence. Well, I had a life sentence, so he thought I was never getting out. So, you see, he just made, you know, made himself helpful to it. But he, if he really, if he really, really would have known me, he would have retch out. I really would have, I really would have, I know, no bullshit. really would, I was like, I wish this nigga would have just, like, did his thing with Rose. I wish I would just really intertwined and connect because I felt like it was there, man.

I tried to, but, you know, it was probably, for him, I can understand, it's scary. Yeah. Here you are, you build this persona. They put millions of dollars into you. And now you got to tell the world that you were fake. And see, when you got out of jail too, and then you had a life. sentence and a lot of people like my age and shit like that like a lot of this sometimes they be like man man that nigginsch and i'm like how you feel about that because i know that he said damn yeah

we got the internet right damn right what can you not find out about the internet and who who hasn't saw me on the internet so the guy that i told on he never saw me on the internet right he never spoke out about it he never said man that motherfucker told on me go and look on the internet and find that guy. Find the one that can say that. Yeah, because I mean, because everybody else is looking up, everybody paperwork,

but your paperwork is just so complex to motherfuckers, you feel them? You don't even need paperwork. Yeah. You ain't even got a guy. You ain't got one person to stand up and say, man, he told on me.

Right. With the internet, they're the internet. I mean, it would have to be, if somebody told on you, it would have to be somebody who would come and say, go public and say, hey, man, he told on me.

Yeah. So with the Rick Ross thing, like, why that shit didn't happen, man? And why did you decide to, like, sue that nigga? Well, I'd hit him when we was in jail. We talked. And he was supposed to come and see me. And he never did. I wasn't really tripping about that.

I got out, you know, started doing my own thing. This lawyer came to me and said, man, Universal, you're $50 million. I said, go get it. Yeah. Just like that. That's all it was. I didn't even care about the lawsuit. Right.

Did he know that? Did he ever reach out after that lawsuit? No. Did you lose the lawsuit? I lost. Both of us lost. He lost about a million and a half dollars. They say they paid a million and a half in attorney fees.

And so the judge ordered me. I posted give him a $500,000 back. So if they ever come for it, I'm going to give it to them in quarters. So right now to this day, you owe Riggurals, $500 an attorney fees. Him and Universal and Warner's. They say I owe them a million and a half,

but the judge only awarded them $500,000. I can't fucking believe that, man. They had 15 attorneys. What was really stupid to me about the whole get down, if I'm suing somebody, if I'm suing somebody suing me, I pay the lawyer $100,000. I'll be like, man, how much more?

Yeah. How much more it's going to cost me? And if they tell me, oh, 500 more thousand, I'll be like... Shit, I'm out of there if I'm... No, no, me. I'd be like, hey, man, see a dude to take 50,000. Oh, yeah, yeah. See if he'd take 100.

See if you take 150. I don't wait until we get up to a million and a half, and I ain't even offered nothing. You know what I'm saying? this shit. I'm going to let him take. He's still, probably still ain't getting no royalties behind that shit. You think he's going to come after you? I don't care. I'm going to have so much money. Judge is going to be scared to fuck with me. Ain't nobody, ain't nobody going to want to bother me. They're going to say, man, you, you're going to fuck with that motherfucker there. Do you know who that is? The motherfucker runs weed. He runs boxing. He runs the movie theaters. Now,

now, now universal. Now universal people work for him now. He's the one putting out, I look at it. I'll probably be a year, two years putting out a movie every month. That's right. I'm going to have the money. I'm going to be cash-heavy. One of the companies that I'm about to take over, he told me, he said, man, dollar bills.

He said, I don't want them motherfuckers. Is it kind of like what Dame Dash is doing right now independently? Because he said it's kind of hard doing that shit, film independently. I ain't paid attention to Damon Dash. Are you doing your own shit? What I do, I'm kind of like, you know those things they put on the horse

tunnel vision yeah some kind of tunnel vision I only see what I do and I don't really worry about what nobody else do how they doing it you know like I'm gonna do some music right and I just found a little motherfucker so cold 16 years old I ain't gonna mention his name

because I don't want nobody to sign him you know I gotta have it whenever I touch something everybody like it yeah so this little young kid I'm trying to get all the paperwork done right now and get him sign. You know, I got a couple boxers that's probably gonna make more money

than Floyd Mayweather made than boxing. Did you ever regret like not putting up all your money and the music shit and doing all that shit because you was around so many niggas? I don't regret anything. Damn. You know, people kept asking me that, right?

And I didn't really know how to answer it. They'd be like, did you regret? Do you regret being in a game? Do you regret going to prison? And I didn't really quite know how to answer it, right? And I did this interview in Chicago with this girl, and she titled the article, No regrets, Only Lessons. I say, damn, that's what I've been talking about.

No regrets, only lessons. I learned from all of that shit. So all of that that I went through made me who I am today. And, you know, I feel like, shit, I'm right where I need to be right now today. You know, and ain't nowhere else in the world I'd rather be than right where I'm at right now. You know, and I learned that when I was in jail, you know, when I first went to jail, you know, I was, oh, man, I want to get out. You know, I need to be, you know, anxious. And then all of a sudden, one day, you know, it came to me, you're right where you're supposed to be.

When the time comes, see, there's a time that has to come. And when that happens, you're going to get out. Lewis Farrakhan said it the best. I was in the chapel and I was listening to him, and he was talking about when a woman's pregnant with a baby and if the baby continues to develop there's nothing that she can do but let it come out you know right she can't hold it in other than abort so when you was in jail i know it's crips bloods mexicans whites and muslims did you ever result to you know what i'm saying being a Muslim uh they say we all Muslims

so i guess you know when i'm hanging out with the Muslims I'm Muslim Associated Affiliated by association And then when I hang out with the Christians I'm Christian You know Same thing now You know I go hang out with

Faircom I hang out with Bishop Noel Jones You know anybody hang out with me I hang out with them You know you like me I like you You don't like me I don't like you either

Man you made so much motherfucking money When you was younger You was doing your thing Honey keys Like How the fuck was you making A million dollars

a day, sometimes $3 million a day. I started with $125. You make the $125, turn into $150. Where is that money? Shit, I don't know. Spent. Hell, God. And junk yours.

And, you know, I mean, easy come, easy go. You know, I don't look, but I don't look back at that. I'm looking at this shit. I'm feeling like, fuck, Microsoft is for sale. Yeah. You know, Apple is for sale. These motherfuckers don't know what they're doing. You know, so when I look at all,

all of this stuff that's happening. I'm like, damn. Motherfucker, they send you to jail so you can learn how to take all this shit over. So, you know, I'm just, right now, I'm just building up my resources and stacking my game so that I can teach them what I learn, you know,

how I took $125 and turning to $3 million a day, you know, but this time it's going to be on paper, you know, where they can't take it from you, they can't stop you. You know how rich I would be if they wouldn't broke me up in the dope game. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but.

How are you looking right now, though, man? Are you a millionaire right now? No, I ain't a millionaire yet. I got, I got a millionaire projects. I got, I got a marijuana grow that I'm doing right now. It's going to make a million and a half a month. Now, how are you doing that? Like, how are you researching the game in that, man?

Because I was selling weed at one time and I felt like I was doing a little delivery service. And, you know, the homie got robbed a couple times. And, you know, my delivery driver said, you know, what, Anybody can slip and get robbed. Yeah. You know, I never per se got robbed on my own. I went over to one of my homeboy house though one day and knocked on the door and they was in there robbing him.

Dude, best you grab me in the collar snatched me in and they got the gun on him and me and and dude went to tussing. I'm like, oh, y'all might go start shooting. I ain't laying down. I ain't submitting. You know, me and him tussling in the house and we was hitting the walls and stuff so hard that my boy's son heard it

and came and opened the door. And when they saw him, he took off and they jumped up and took off running. But yeah, I wasn't going to, I ain't submitting. You know, fuck that. Shoot me right there where you got me at.

We ain't going nowhere. I almost got kidnapped one time. Shit, right there, right there on the dead end. You know, on 80-70 feet, right in front of my mom's house. motherfucker put a gun on me him and his girl told me to get in the car this recently? No no no no no couple years this was 81 82 I was buying like two ounces of cocaine at that time

my fuck going to rob me over two ounces motherfucker stop it the homie got robbed for an ounce I already know I had a partner in St. Louis got killed over an ounce they found him in the trunk of his car at the airport over an ounce of cocaine so but you know back then in St. Louis ounces worth like 6,000 so had a little value. But, you know, I mean, that's just the nature of that game.

You know, it's a dirty, dirty game that people can get hurt in. Yeah, they definitely can't get hurt in. I mean, even like the licenses thing, like, how do you get your license and do that? Like, how do you prepare for that? Because they were just telling me no, all the way across the board. Why you didn't get with me? Man, we marched on City Hall. We went down there and two of them overings, man, y'all going to get some blacks, some license

and this motherfucker. We ain't going for that. And then we had a, what's the name them from Great Street, Drow, and all. And they thought, we're going to tear this motherfucker up. What, that city all? You're going to tell us this motherfucker up again, y'all. So you're still doing your thing? No, no, no, I wasn't with that.

But, you know, them the homies, though. You know, we're homies with them. But, no, I ain't with no tan nothing up. I ain't trying to go back to jail. I'm having too much fun out here, man. man who counted the money you I will count it yeah I mean because you still

even though you was making that much money then you know what I'm saying now I'm like who the fuck was counting all that shit you know who used to count the money you was right there come on you know who used to count that money I know your mama told you who used to count the money yeah you know where it was at oh everything I know where it was at

that is a that was there was my people man that was my money counters you know yeah They took care of everything. They took care. I know, I was, shit, I'd be like, man, if I got to count that money,

I ain't selling no dope today. Fuck that. Y'all gonna be without dope. Y'all will get somebody count this money. Yeah. My mom was like, man, shit. He owned this, he on that, he on that, it's all gone. I'm like, oh, dang.

They say bags through the door. You know, big old bags. We had the hole in the door for duffel bags to fit through the door. You know, don't open the door. Just let them throw their money through the door and keep it moving. Like a rock house.

You know how they had a rock house. They slipped the rock, money in, rock out. But hey, they just slide their bag through the door, and then they called back with the number. Oh, you had such, such, such, such, such. Okay, cool. Man, when you was in jail, would you ever scared as a motherfucker?

Like, you know what? These motherfuckers might kill me in this bitch. No, I wasn't scared. Well, you know, when Gary Webb did the story Dark Alliance, you know, made me think, you know, and then when Gary got killed, you know, like, what the fuck? They shot, Gary shot itself in the head twice?

Motherfucker. That ain't the CIA. Y'all going to tell me. They ain't the CIA. They didn't shoot him in the head twice. How a motherfucker's? this up in the head twice with a shotgun but uh you know i was like they don't really want me dead because if they kill me then that make the story even more realer you know what i'm saying so uh

i wasn't really afraid of dying uh no jail was cool i mean you know i i i like i said i i turned jail basically into my to my college you know um my first book i ever read was malcolm x yeah you know about Alex Haley in the book, you know. Malcolm talked about, put us in jail, we're going to learn how to read and write. So I said, shit, fuck, I got to learn how to read and write. All these fucking years, I didn't want to read them right. Now I've got to learn how to read and write.

Why the fuck didn't you want to learn how to read and write? And then you got these motherfucking white people out here talking about, just put it in the book, these motherfuckers ain't going to learn it. But nobody had never told me that. God damn. See, nobody never told me the value of a book. You know, I thought that a book, when you read a book,

They was going to be talking about Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a peller water. Like what kind of water they're going to get? Can you sell that shit? How was you doing? Was it PCB? Was it PCB in that motherfucker? You know what I'm saying?

I was like 28. You was 28? What's your mama say? Like this motherfucker is stupid and the motherfucker but he knows how to count this money though. She might not even know. Did you didn't know how to read? That is a while.

But you see, see, our parents don't pay enough. for attention to us back then. They was trying to keep the rent paid. You know what I'm saying? Like we used to have broken windows in the house and shit. We had roaches and rats, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Running through the house.

You know, the kitchen cabinets had big holes in where you, you know what I'm saying? Take that board out the way you look to the bottom of the ground. You know what I'm saying? So moms was more concerned with trying to keep that house and trying to keep the lights on and keep some food on the table. You know, I remodeled that motherfucker door. She went out of the town. I put her like $150,000.

I was stupid as a motherfucker, though. The house was worth about 50,000. I put 150 in remodeling in that, my mom, you know. Like, when did she realize, like, me, my son, rich as fuck? Man, moms, because I was selling my dope on 81st in Hoover. And what I would do is every time I make, like, $1,500, I run to the house and put it up. Yeah. So I'm doing, like, 10, 15 of these trips a day.

And so mom just like, this motherfucker keep running in and out the house. He ain't never running out of the house like this year, right? So I come back and open the door. I look on the couch, there's a pile of money on the couch. So I look at my boy, Ollie. I'm like, mind, I found the money. She got us. Yeah, because all we was doing was piling in it.

I had a pile in my closet, and I piled dirty clothes on top of it. You know, that's going to hide it. It was about that tall, right? So mom's up. She came in there like, man, y'all got enough money. Quit. Can you quit?

Can you quit? She's like, I know you're in the mob. The mob got you. And I was like, Mom, I'm the mob. Yeah, I am the mob. Knowing your story and being freeway, right, right, how did your kids deal with this shit? I don't even know.

You know, my babies, they trip because I'd be taking all these pictures. They'd be like, Daddy, I don't want to take all them pictures. You take too many people. I always want to take pictures with you. You know, we go out for dinner or something like that. But they ate and 10 years old. So I don't know how my older kids deal with it. You know, one, Jamal, he kind of fuse off of it.

He wants to be a movie star and so forth and so on. So he kind of fuse off of. But the rest of them, you know, they lay back. You know, Jamal. Ain't nobody never dibble and dabble and say, man, you know what, I'm going to sell some shit. even if it's weird. I'm sure they did.

I'm sure they did. You know, Jamal and my other son, Cardo, they both been to prison. So they probably didn't do something little, you know,

little bit that, you know what I'm saying? But for the most part, you know, since I've been home, neither one I've been back to prison. You know, knock on wood.

That's right. For real. So, but yeah, they're cool, you know, they're doing all right for their self. Yeah.

When you got out that second time, I asked you, was you scared this fucking gym. like the niggas gonna get you. But this is the second time. Yeah, when you got out the second time, this time, the last time. Yeah, when you got out this time, even though your case was like super high profile, I think,

and me just discussing it with other people. It was high profile. You don't know many people. It's nightline, dayline, 2020. Yeah. What else I was on? I didn't make 60 minutes, 60 minutes. Montel Williams, Zagrado.

I mean, in San Diego. Is it still watching you or fucking with you? I don't care if they watch me. I hope they do watch me. I park your car right over there so everybody can see you watching me. I'm using for bodyguards. I use the for bodyguards. Because you do so much shit, you're doing so much shit.

You don't feel like you go out like this thing. I'm like out me, man. You know, the old motherfucking white people. Well, you know, they don't even look at drugs the same way no more. Yeah. Not even cocaine. You know, they're not as hard on cocaine as they was in the 80s. You know, now you can get arrested with cocaine and get a bail and shit.

Like when we got arrested, no will. Danger to the community, you know. So things have changed and people look at the world a little different. But, you know, I'm cool. I'm cool with it. Let them do what they do. Yeah, as far as the movie thing, you say you feel to get in that band, dibble and dabbling that bad.

I've been in the movie. I've been in the movie business. I just ain't really, you know, my documentary stayed on Netflix for a year and a half. I bust Netflix's ass. I was just about to say that. Yeah, I bust their ass. But you know, they ain't going to call and tell nobody. You know, they ain't going to put the numbers up and say,

man, this motherfucker here killed Netflix. But I already knew just by, like, why the fuck you keep me on the front page for a year and a half? How do you get something on Netflix, though, man? How do you get that on there? Who you got to go through? I didn't put it on there. The producers did. And we fell out, you know.

They tried to beat one of my partners, you know. He didn't put up as much money as they did on the piece. And they wanted me to call. cross my life man I don't cross my friends man fuck you take the motherfucker I don't give a fuck I don't get a dime out the motherfucker steal it I'm gonna let it no you stole the motherfucker you steal it from him

you steal it for me too because I ain't on you know I just don't do my friends what's the residuals off of Netflix like I didn't get nothing out of that documentary you didn't get no money out your documentary we went to court they took me to court and the judge gave him all the rights

to my shit that I wrote in prison that I produced they put up about $60,000 and that gave them all the rights to my shit. Was it a certain contract or something he didn't sign? They said that I verbally avoided the contract. It was some more that bullshit like they did with the rapper, you know, statute of limitations.

With him, it was statute of limitations with them. It was a verbal agreement that we had, even though the contract said there can be no verbal agreements. You know, like you can't have a verbal agreement. But I didn't really do the documentary for no money, no way. You know, I did it for just what it did. Bleu the fuck up. I know because you walking outside, you know, it's like, boy, I'm on Netflix.

You don't see this shit. Make me a star, you motherfuckers. Now I'll get my money now. Yeah, like, because you're going to be on Netflix again. It's going to be bigger. We're going to the theater this time. Yeah. We can go to theater.

Then maybe, maybe Netflix might wake up. up and get the TV series. Yeah. Because I'm already working on a TV series right now. You know, I'm putting a TV series together right now. Will it be something like Snowfall, though, right? Or just... It's going to be real.

A little bit more complex. I don't want to do no fake shit. I mean, we got enough fake shit already. And I think that the people tired of fake shit. You know, who wants some fake joy? And you're walking on the street, them motherfuckers squeaking. Like, these motherfuckers can't be real. Yeah.

No, no, I think we want some real shit. You know, we don't want to wear no fake. fake gold, you know, who you know where fake go. Man, I just think it's a whole little thing a motherfucker just trying to cut you out of the shit. Their story is beautiful, it's there, like it's authentic, and then it's just a gang of motherfucking

just trying to just cut throat you out the whole little thing, because the story is too crazy. But they always cut blacks out of everything. You know, most of the entertainers right now don't make no money. Most of them motherfuckers really broke. Yeah, for real. You know, it's very few of them motherfuckers

who really got some money. That's why they can. can't do their own shit. I'm like, why don't nobody help me do my movie? Y'all know this mother going to break the box office and nobody can step up because they ain't got no money and they ain't got no juice. You know, it's very few people. I don't know

if it's a black dude living that can go to a studio and say, man, write me a check. I want to do a movie. You know, I've got to go through the channels and give it to this guy and that guy and, you know, it's a lot of bullshit. It's a big weight game. I went through it. I went through it. You know,

I met Orie Manuel. Spencer Boomer, Jeff Byrd, and Michael Linton. You know, my first week is so out of prison. You know, the motherfuckers told me, no, those motherfuckers you're talking to, they can't do nothing. That's crazy that you got to still go through these obstacles and just move.

It's right here for you. Y'all want to make the money? It's right here. The story right here. It's organic. Here you go. I'm saying. It's all real for you.

Like, let's do it. It's still like a waiting game. Like, they should, they do that shit. But I don't mind waiting. I know, I know it's like, you know, you don't eat an apple until it's right. You know, you try to eat the apple that ain't right. That's a whole art is a motherfucker.

So, you know, when it was time, when it's time, you know, the movie going to happen. Yeah. And that's the way I look at it. So I ain't even been rushing, you know. Everybody else would be like, man, when your movie is going to come out? Oh, it's going to come out. Why they do, why they do this movie and that movie, you know, they do the Frank Lucas movie, you know. Yeah.

And, you know, now Big Meat's Story is out. and, you know, they got power and they snowfall and, you know, like, what the fuck? Y'all do snowfall and y'all got the real motherfucker. John, with his corny ass, he kicking it with me. Like, motherfucker,

you could have gave him the real shit. You know, you could have took the real deal up in there. But he probably knew, like, man, this motherfucker, Rick is, he's a hard dealer. You know, he ain't taking no wood knickles. You know, he don't work for popcorn and peanuts. You know, you can have to really pay that motherfucker because he really bought his money.

and he felt I guess it would be easier just to go in and do it on my thing yeah cutthow me you know cut me out you know I ain't got to deal with that motherfucker he ain't got to deal with that motherfucker he ain't gonna go in and then you know and be like man fuck them motherfuckers because it should have been a story already like Russ should have been a movie already well you know my book my book is doing really well you know I'm I'm happy you know right to go from not not knowing how to read to having books Three books.

Three books. It's crazy. And working on the fourth one. I'm working on one right now. I'm going to fuck them up, you know. How's that going for you? With the books? Yeah, the books.

I can't tell no numbers because the IRS would be on my eyes. You see, they didn't get fucking new things that's looking at you outside. No, I'm not looking at me, but I ain't going to give them no numbers. They'll be like, oh. Oh, there's a thing that we got you. That's the number we was looking for. Yeah. Now, you old.

I'm gonna go throw the IRS some money anyway I'm just gonna walk to the office one day with a bag and just be like yeah man thank y'all for not fucking with me man stop fucking with me man yeah here your money matter of fact I gave you some extra they were fucking with me so much I had to get a tax lawyer

I'm like just can't be real yeah yeah but I'm gonna take them a bag you know just to clear that shit up you know like yeah man I know I gave y'all extra go fix some street lights you know what I'm saying get high you know how some old police, the helicopter, whatever y'all gonna do with the money, man, leave me along.

Yeah. Hear your money. You still fucking with Floyd May with her? No, Floyd don't fuck with me. Why not, man? He picked you up in the Rose Royce doing the whole little thing, man. Claussen. He was Blascent.

He was Blossent. He wasn't really trying to fuck with no real motherfucker, man. You know, I'm a real motherfucker. Yeah. So he wasn't ready for that. What you think he a little off? He off a little off a little bit. He's a little off.

Yeah, his game is off, you know, my game tight. You come on to quote me, I'm going to bust that ass. You don't have to play defense, boy. You know, in the joint day, he's telling him, man, you got to keep a hand up on Rick. He's going to bust that jump on your ass. I mean, you better be sharp, the motherfucker that don't know how to retort himself on note to read that tweet. He got out of jail. No, no, no, no, no, no, you missed some.

Well, okay, I missed a loop. Debated the law with some motherfucking scholars. My lawyer graduated from Harvard University Top of his class. My prosecutor was a special prosecutor. That motherfucker was being groomed to go to the White House and be like a U.S. attorney. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. That motherfucker went to Yale. He wasn't no normal motherfucker. He didn't do cases under $10 million. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's the kind of motherfucker I had. I told his motherfucker and ass,

oh, you're wrong. You know, I told the judge. I told the judge, Mike. When she gave me to life senator, I say I was a little fucked up too, right? Because moms had broke down in court. And I was like, oh, I'll be back. She said, oh, I'll be here waiting for you.

And then when I came back in the courtroom, she said, oh, you kept your word. You kept your word. I said, oh, yeah, you thought I wasn't? So when they're dealing with somebody like that, it's just a whole other level. You know, you just don't meet motherfuckers that, you know, make $3 million in one day, can spend, you know, $200,000 and not even think about it. it, you know, like, I mean, one day we was sitting on the block. We was over at Ali Mama house.

You didn't remember where Ali Mama stayed on Grand. Yeah. We had the house. Remember, we fixed that house up. The motherfucker looked like it was out of Beverly Hills with the satellite dish and all that shit. Yeah, my mom kept putting money in these houses. I was going to sell your mom was going to buy that house too.

She almost bought that house from me. Damn. So my boy come over there when the three-wheelers and the four-wheelers first come out. And I was like, oh, man, that shit is so cool. I was like, man, come on, let's go get some of the motherfuckers. We go to the Honda dealer, man. We buy every motherfucker they had. They was called a Honda dealers all around the state,

getting Honda, four-wheeler sent down. You know, so when you living like that, you know, like everybody was there. I bought them one. Just for being there. Get him one. What, they're $2,700. Get in one.

Get in one. Yeah, you got to be a sharp, motherfucker. So even be fucking with you are on your level. So to pick me up in the Rose Royce and try to court me, Like I'm some type of bitch That's how I feel Like trying to do anything Like I'm gonna fuck you again

Niggas be trying to fuck you Get over on you like You know what he was doing You know what he was doing He was getting at the rapper Remember him and the rapper was beefing When I got out they was beefing Him 50 and the rapper was beefing

And he's trying to pick you up She's trying to do the bag To get at the rapper You know like I'm gonna use this bitch To make this other one jealous Because he really wanted to be with the rapper I guess you know When the fuck with him

So because that's what he did after him and 50 fell out he started fucking with the rapper they start hanging out of this shit I see him on videos at the fights I'm like damn this motherfucker hanging

and then the rapper I couldn't believe him after they did remember the little mood they put down with his girl and his baby yeah that whole little thing man being immature at that age

that's crazy I saw that shit I was like man I don't play like because they called me to come up there but I don't know what the whole get down was but my PO wouldn't let me go

They gave me the P.O. from hell. I was like, man, I need to go up there and hang out with Floyd Mayweather than him. He was like, so? And that they could save your life for some fucking cornball shit. I would have walked out. I wouldn't have went for that shit. Because, you know, somebody would have been playing with my kid. You know, they would have saw a different side of me.

Yeah. Because I got more than one side, but I try to keep that motherfucker tuned in, you know. Because did you see that one they did the CBS LA game? Godfathers they did and they say well Rick ain't dangerous but he hangs out with some very dangerous guys that's why I need to be like who you still tuned in with bro

you know what I'm saying like me and me and Echo we was looking at that last night because Echo had never seen the LA Gang Godfather the little series they did when they did the LA Gang Godfather so I put him up on it last night and he was like damn man I was like yeah for real we threw the we threw the beach party

I didn't go to the beach party because I knew I just beat that case so I knew that they was going to be saying that I was partying for the case and they said it anyway but you know it was all good what about them jams they used to do at the Coliseum

Uncle Jam Army yeah Uncle Jam Army yeah I never really got you know I never really got involved totally with that like I should have you know I should have got more involved you know DJ pool had put me up on

on the rap man I slept on the rap game you know with King T and all them man you've vocal around and be part on the death row why you didn't put all the money up? I'd have been bigger than death row. Come on, man. I'd have been bigger than death row. He was in the rooms with Dr. Dre, DJ Pooh.

And then, that ain't even a cold point. I was hanging out with Dick Griffey. Dick Griffey, O'Dersmith, and I met Barry one time, but I was hanging out with two of the first independent record labels ever. So, you know, I had all the

all the assets and they begged me. to quit selling dope. They was like, man, if you quit selling dope, boy, they're a rocking on. I was like, motherfuckers. How y'all gonna tell me to lead dope along?

And I had to loan your motherfuckers money. We weren't thinking for the long run. You gotta think for the long run. You gotta think for the long run. Well, you know. I'm only 23 years old, 22 years old, man. I never read a book. Didn't have a daddy.

You know what I'm saying? Never really had a mentor, really, you know, for tennis I did. but I ain't never had nobody that had no money, you know. I don't know nobody with no money. I had more money than everybody I ever knew. Yeah. So it was hard for me to understand, you know.

But I was always looking for game, you know, but game was hard to find because you look for a game, you become the game, you know, because everybody was trying to get in your pocket, you know, trying to figure out how they could weasel up on you. Another person that would be saying, you know, I was young as little D. Is he from the Bay or something like that?

Yeah. Yeah, that's my man. You know, I was young. I was younger than everybody. I was doing it up. Yeah, he was selling me this shit. But, you know, I was just younger than them niggas. You feel me?

Yeah. Little D. Little D. Yeah. Little D was. Little D was. Little D. is super cool, though. You know, that little motherfucker can think.

Yeah. He can think, too. And that's the thing about, you know, when I was sitting in prison, I was thinking about the whole dope game. I said, man, maybe that was a plot to get all the black entrepreneurs off the street. Mm-hmm. You know, the motherfuckers that was trailblazers, you know, who would take a chance. you know because you got to be thinking proactive to sell dope yeah you know and you know it turned out that it was a way to get a lot of a lot of young black entrepreneurs off this off the street so yeah that's

crazy man and you now you're here man you're doing your movie thing you're doing your weed thing they all just you know they just gave me in a Arizona through two weeks ago they gave me a lifetime achievement of war and i was like damn these motherfuckers saw this sheet i said this dude can't be a visionary like that but you know the game really over man they could really give me the trophy right now because i don't laid the foundation now you know once the foundation in that that concrete is hard you you gotta come break that shit up with one of them great big old crank bang bang bang bang bang bang yeah that's what i be telling my girl i'm like the foundation is laid yeah all we got to do now is build yeah and from there we'll be solid you know what i'm saying you say like you said at least

I've been kicking it with Don Kennedy too. Man, Don, I've been kicking it. We're rapping about doing some music stuff. You know, so I'm going to take another look at the music. And then James Foneroy and Brian Kennedy, you know, I've been hollering at them. So I'm going to take a swipe at this music industry here in a couple weeks. And Snoop Dogg just bought Def Row. I don't know if you heard about that.

But today he got leaked out, man. He just bought Def Row. Got the rights to all that. I mean, maybe you can go over there and do something, man. Maybe it might change up. Yeah, yeah. I do my own. thing. I don't need nobody.

You really about doing your own thing? I don't need a little. I'm going to have all the money. I'm going to be the motherfucker with all the money. I'm going to have all the weed. You know, they're going to trade weed for money. I'm going to trade money for weed. You know what I'm saying? So, uh, I don't need nobody. Are you just doing the physical thing or are you, or have you ever

hopped in that, uh, NFT shit yet? I'm in NFTs too. I dropped NFTs a week ago. Man, you're a real hustler, man. I've just, godly, are you doing it all. And then in front of my dispensary, I'm going to have a fucking food truck. I'm getting The food truck built right now, then I'm going to be giving away food.

Like, you know, it's come to eat in front of my store for free. Great food. You know, it's going to be that shift of the evening. You know, like top chefs, going to be cooking out there with a fucking truck, you know, give it that shit away. Like, come over here and get some of this shit. So full.

Yeah. You know, I just, I just got to think outside the box, man, you know. When you look at it, like I know, if I would have been on the street, I probably would have been part on a Facebook, you know, or Instagram. You know, I just would have been, you know, that's how I think, you know. So when the new shit come out, I'm going to be a part of it.

Yeah. Well, man, thank you for giving me the pleasure talking to you, man. I thought it was you. I'd have been glad to come out here. You know, I kind of drug out a little bit. Like, man, come on, man. But you're like, man, the dick got me coming here with this little motherfucker. I did two interviews already today.

You know, just did one over in London for boxing. And then I did one this morning, I think in Chicago for marijuana. But that's cool. You were surprised that it was me. That's tight, man. It's tight. It's cool. I'm glad, you know, you brought a smile in my face when you told me.

And, you know, I ain't talked to your mom in a couple years. So, you know, make me feel good. You know, I was able to help her. I know she was going to be glad that I did it. I should have FaceTime her ass and be like, you know, what's the deal? He and this motherfucker, man. Because she should try to, you know, she was pushing me to Art Toy Tiger. Come on, Wick, you need to help him.

You need to help him. She knew you can help with something. You feel me? Let's see if she has. She don't answer this over for you, baby. We don't see. Yeah, she knew I could have helped. But, you know, Tiger blew up.

You know, he got his thing on. And, you know, everything worked out for the best. You know, everybody did their thing. Yeah. You and Tiger still cool? No. You know, I kind of fell off with him, fell back from him. But, you know, I ain't like, I don't hate the nigga or nothing like that.

I'm just doing my own thing like you said. Absolutely. Absolutely. Sometimes you got to do it. that. Yeah, you got to fall back. People think they carry you, you know, you understand. Hold on, man, I can carry my motherfucker on yourself. Yeah, ain't no carrying me, nigga, I have.

That's, you got me fucking up. You know what I'm saying? You know, sometimes you got to show them. But a leader can't be led. You know what I'm saying? A leader can't be led. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. The first thing, you got to be a good Indian first.

Yeah, for sure. If you ain't a good Indian, you can't be the cheap. For sure. That's what I was doing, I was doing. Yeah, that's what I felt like I was doing. Now I'm here. Now I'm talking to you. And this is where to set, though.

You know, Joe Rogan just got $100 million with a podcast. That's why I'm talking to you. So they're paying. And, you know, I did one of Joe's first shows. I've seen you on there. I think I was in his top 80, you know what I'm saying, the shows that he did. And he did me twice. He won't take me back.

But, uh, oh, he won't take you back. No, I can't get back on that. You can do him Vlad a lot, though. Oh, yeah, Blad. Blad, love him. Matter of fact, they hit me today. Yeah, yeah, Vlad is good. And I enjoy Blad.

Um, we got a pretty good relationship. you know, Vlad, Vlad asked some tough questions, but, you know, motherfuckers didn't say what they don't want to say. Yeah, I know. I'm like, they like, did any research? I'm like, this nigga, Vlad didn't ask every motherfucking question you can ask. He didn't ask every question. He did a lot, you know, but he ain't.

Because they don't know. You got to have that movie come out. The niggas, a lot of shit, niggas don't know. When that movie come on, they don't be fucked up. You know, I was talking to the writer one day, and he was like, man, I keep getting the same question about you. I ain't going to tell nobody what they kept saying. They're going to get to see it.

I'm doing another documentary right now with all my friends who I grew up with and stuff. They're telling their little Rick Ross, their favorite Rick Ross stories. That's what I'm going to do in my TV series off of them. It's going to be the series. It's going to be going to necessarily be about me. It's going to be about me, but it's going to be about my friends, how they saw me. And that's the way I'm going to do that thing this time. See, that's what I was doing when I was giving that story about that theater.

And I was a kid and I was sitting in the office. and you came and walked past, you got out the car, it's clear as day. You got out and you walked down that hallway. I'm telling you, man. I got to come get you, and you got to be on one of them series. I have to.

I have to. Yeah, man, but this is my boy, Freeway Rick. You know what I'm saying? Nice to have him in the building, man. Thanks. Y'all check me out too. You know, if you want to get that book, go to my website for at Ricky Ross.com.

You want to follow me on Instagram, Freeway, Ricky, Facebook, Fray at Ricky Ross. And now I'm on TikTok. I'm doing my little TikTok dance now so y'all come see me on TikTok as well and come check out some of my fighters I got some cold I got some cold dudes and they're real motherfuckers

there ain't no fluffs Yeah All right so we out