No Jumper - Friutsnacks on Her Rap Career, Hawk Tuah Girl Comparisons, Her Confusing Name & More

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

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No jumper. Coolest podcast on the world. I'm with my man Remo. And today we're bringing you a once in a lifetime conversation with the one and only fruit snacks. What's up guys? Spell F-R-I-U-T. Yes, that's correct. Which in my head I was kind of like thinking about it all weekend.

Like what would be the actual pronunciation of that if we didn't just switch over to fruit snacks? You ever think about that? A lot of, I mean, I don't even care how people say it. Usually it's like fruit snacks, fruit snacks, but either way it doesn't matter. Friut. That was the same name in my head. That works too. Yeah.

How you get your name anyway? It's actually kind of a really stupid story, but I got it probably like seventh grade, 7th grade. I got like my first Xbox because I wanted to play like Fortnite and I was like, I don't want to make my name. It's like Erica. That's like boring, right? So I was like, I don't like, I didn't really have a nickname. So I don't know what I want to use.

So there's this one like Fortnite YouTuber. his name was Dakota's and I just like watched his stream at like 4 in the morning one day and he was playing with someone named Scooby-Doo Fruit Snacks and I like took the fruit snacks part because I was like, wait, that's kind of like catchy. And the first place I used it on was Twitter and I just put, I just typed in like fruit snacks to see what other like usernames would be available but like it wasn't taken. And I was like, how is no one took this username? And then like two weeks later I found out that I spelled it wrong. So it was like accidental. So I just like ran with it. Wow. That's fine. Yeah. That's like one thing we could all.

agree on fruit snacks are pretty good they are watches are the best though yeah on the other side we have a whole box of those but um yeah that's how i got my nickname too it's just like made up a screen name and like just made it up for my whole life people just asked me like how i got the name and it's like well i just had to create a username and didn't really think it was going to be anything and here we are i guess it's though remo

that's the same shit yeah pretty much probably a lot of us dealing with this yeah so okay where are you from i'm from chicago like the suburbary Oh, okay. Yeah. Nice. What was it like growing up out there? Honestly, I've stayed in like the whole house that I'm in now.

Like I've stayed there my whole life. And so it's kind of just like your average like suburban neighborhood or whatever. So it's been pretty like calm growing up. It's like I'm like an hour out from Chicago itself. So I go out there sometimes. But it's been pretty like calm. Nothing crazy. Definitely.

What was your early internet life like? Or like I'm trying to figure out like what events led to you kind of getting into making music and shit. Honestly, I never thought that like I would get to like where I am now obviously but like everyone says that. But um I started out just like on Twitter. Like I found a lot of like online friends and stuff that I met through there. And just through that like I just kept building like a name. Like I didn't really take Twitter seriously. I mean it's like Twitter. But I made Instagram and then I just started posting like TikToks just like with my friends and stuff. And then like one like they just like started blowing up after another. So and then I got here and

So yeah, it's just a ball of events. Yeah, here we are. How old are you? I'm 20. 20, okay. And so, yeah, I mean, you say, like, you know, it's just Twitter, but it's like, I do know a lot of people who have built, like, names to themselves and built, like, whole businesses on Twitter and shit.

But you feel like you didn't start to, like, go viral and, like, really build a platform until you've gone on TikTok? Not really, no. I mean, definitely TikTok was where everything, like, started. Like, that's one, like, when I first got to, like, when I'd say, like, 20K followers, I was like, okay, like, maybe this can go somewhere. You know what I mean? Yeah. And what type of content were you posting on your TikTok? I was, I was just making, like, TikToks with my friends. Like, there was, um, I got hit up by this promo company and I made like a couple

audios for them, like a couple of TikToks. And it was just like this, it was like a, um, you guys know who Yapo JJ is? Yeah. Yeah, he's an artist. So it was for him. And I just made a video with my friend, like, not thinking anything of it. And then it like blew up. It wasn't like crazy blow up. It was probably like maybe like 50k but that's like pretty good for tictock right and so like i'm i kept making videos like that because i was like okay yeah i see this one's going good so i'm gonna keep it going and then it just kind of kept building from there and so it was pretty crazy yeah so you started the ticot method almost yeah yeah i feel like that's how it is now yeah everyone credited to you like of like having your friends or you know what i'm saying getting woman to like

promote their music and shit but i didn't know what you said a company had reached out to you yeah because I mean, I didn't have, like, the biggest, like, fan base at the time. Obviously, like, I wasn't that known. But those companies try to, like, reach out to, like, people who don't have, like, the most amount of followers because they see, like, the potential. So it was kind of something like that. So after that first TikTok, did you start to look at it as, like, oh, maybe I could do this as a business?

I mean, not at first, but when other companies started hitting me up, I was like, okay, maybe I can, like, do something with this. And I start to, like, plan out, like, oh, like, I'll make this video this day and I'll make this one this day. and like kind of plan out my schedule based like around TikTok. And it worked out pretty well. But she's downplaying her like SoundCloud pedigree because she had a little pump cake.

How do you know that? Because I watched some other interview with you and a little Mosy and you were talking about having a little pump cake when you were what, like 12 or something? I think that was, I think that was eighth grade. Right. So yeah. So that was like your whole scene at that point in your life?

I really liked his music growing up. Like him and like Smoke Purp I listened to like a lot. Like, they were, like, my favorite artist. Definitely Pump. They're coming back, too. Huh? They're coming back.

Oh, yeah. I believe. For sure. I mean, they were at Summer Smash. Not too long ago. Like, I think last year or two years ago. Oh, shit. I mean, Pump is still, like, doing his thing.

Yeah, for sure. I feel like Perp is, like, kind of a weird, sad story because he really, like, disappeared. You haven't seen shit from him in a long time. I saw something with him, like, he had, like, a concert in, like, I don't know how many people it was, but, like, there was like, there was that many people there. Yeah, but he definitely had his time for sure. definitely damn i remember i thought smoke perp was the biggest gangster when we started listening to him we thought his music was so hard like when audie came out and like all those songs and stuff

yeah totally but even before that because like one of cole bennett's first music videos he shot was uh i can't remember what song it was but we used to listen to that shit we were thinking he was like a straight savage like a star yeah well yeah definitely i still think he's got it yeah he's still i think he's Bangers, classics. He can bring it back. I think Smoke Purps should be where Cardi's at right now. Really? That's insane.

That's insane. That might be a little, that might be a little bit. Yeah. You have a few things that have gone differently. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. Okay. So, but that time period, like, what else were you listening to in your life, like, during the little pump birthday cake era? Um, I got to, I don't know. I feel like I wasn't too into, like, I didn't, like, dive into music that much. I was kind of just listening to, like, what everyone else was. I was listening to, like, I listened to, like, some Uzi back then, but it wasn't, like, I wasn't, like, digging in, like, his discography and stuff.

But I would say, like, I don't know, I just, I just listened to a little pump so much. It was, like, back then, which is so funny, but, yeah. Were you, like, a gamer during this area of your life, or just, like, a YouTube, like, consumer or TikTok and all that kind of shit, or what? TikTok, not really, because I think it was, like, musically still at that time. Oh, yeah. But, definitely, like, the other apps of stuff. Mm, that's fine. So when did you start making music?

Music? Because I literally, what's saying? All right, well, all right. Because a lot of people probably seen you on Blackboy Mac streams, but I think I've seen you doing the Hyperpop Daily rap music videos first. So how did that, where did that even start? It would, okay, basically it was like, like a year ago now. Like, this happened in like, I'd say mid-February.

My manager now, he reached out to me and he was like, hey, like, can you check a DM from Hyperpop Daily? and I was like, okay, but I didn't really know him at the time yet. Like, he wasn't my manager. And so I was like, okay, like, I'll check it. And it was like this whole thing. It was like, I signed an NDA to, like, be, like, their artist, like, the face of, like, who was making the music for them and stuff. And it was actually really, it was, like, really cool, like, a whole, like, it was everything behind the scenes.

Like, it was such a cool process. And, like, it was really fun. So just over the course from, like, February, March to Halloween of last year is when, like, I made music under their name Hyperpop Daily. And then on Halloween, I launched music under my name. I could hang hot and like reveal it. So yeah, there's a cool process. Definitely. Yeah.

Like what, how do you view Hyperpop daily? Because they're also the ones who put together that little Mosey interview that you did that I was just talking about. And it's like, I mean, honestly, that interview is like a very underrated one that we did. Like he's got a pretty fascinating mind and like, I don't know. It feels like that brand could definitely keep growing and be something really big. future. Like, how'd you even get involved with that or, like, how do you view it? I view it. Like, I think a lot of people view it as just, like, straight, like, memes, brain rot. But, like, I think it's, like, if you, like, their YouTube, like, they do, like, a whole other, like,

ton of stuff on that. But, um, I, I like it. I mean, I've been following that page since probably, like, 20-21. So I've kind of known about them. But it's cool to see, like, their whole page grow and stuff. So pretty cool. Sometimes I still see the clip of us talking about, like, you know, could so-and-and-so go aura for aura with Cardi. He kept saying that and then we kept repeating it, like getting into it and I still see that clip going up on Twitter and like the gist of it is basically like

dude, you're 40 years old. How are you still talking about aura like this? I'm like, I'm just falling in line with the person I'm having a conversation with. Like, I don't speak like this normally. Yeah. What do you guys think about like that kind of stuff? Like when you saw that, like what did you think? I mean, I think that

the way rap is now, it kind of makes more sense to debate rappers' aura over their, like, lyrics or they're, like, I don't know, music or whatever, because, like, so many people are just kind of, like, picking out beats. Like, what it is to be a rapper is so weird now because there's so much auto-tune, it's so, like, disconnected from the producers and the audio that they're actually rapping over. So, I mean, somebody like Cardi, it's, like, I feel like it's fair to pit his aura

against someone else's aura. That's kind of, like, what it's about. I feel like producers, like, deserve a lot more credit than they actually get. Like it makes like the whole thing like the whole song the whole album whatever like it makes like the song the song I feel like they don't ever get enough credit that's true and has kind of like always been super true and rap but it's definitely yeah that's a fact for sure yeah and they're always just like destined to be trapped in the background because they have so much to do with it but it's just not really like what people choose to focus on it's never like their faces out there you know yeah do you have like certain producers that you just locked in with now or right now right now I'd say definitely Cred.

I've been prod Cred. I've done a lot of like songs on his beat. I've worked with Phoenix a lot in the past and Thrax. I've used their beats a lot too. So I'd say that's who comes to mind for right now for sure. So before the hyperpop daily thing, were you rapping or like you started rapping for that? No.

No, that was like when I got reached out through a DM, like it was basically saying like, hey, like we're coming up with this concept for a page. Like it's going to be, um, Like, we're going to have, like, you, like, behind a mask. And you're going to be performing, like, as if you were hyperpop daily. And it was just kind of, like, a timeline. Like, it was kind of, like, a storyline.

And there was, like, this whole, like, thing. So it was, it was kind of, it was cool. So did you know that you were musically inclined? Like, at that point, have you done anything in the studio? Actually, no. I've, like, figure it out, like, all right. Never made a song. Never thought about making a song.

Oh, shit. But it actually played out pretty well. Like, I thought it was really cool. So it was cool to just learn the whole process and all that kind of stuff. Did you have anxiety about being a white girl rapping or like, who were you looking at to give you the confidence to try that? The confidence I got from it because I knew it was at the end it was going to be like a reveal. Like what I thought of it like there's not really any like main white girl rappers if there's like any like the only person I could think of is like Iggy Zalia. Yeah, but she's like a whole different.

Yeah. That was honestly like four. That was like 12 years ago. go. It was so long ago. But it's also kind of crazy because like people really thought she was going to be like the next Nicki Minaj. Yeah, like the star. And then she just kept saying dumb shit on Twitter and just kind of ruined it. My confidence for it though was basically like, okay, like when this happens, like when the reveal happens, like I'll already have the image. Like, you know, like people will be like, oh, like white girl underground rapper or whatever. You know what I

mean? Like it was like I was kind of like, okay, like I'll already have the image. People can't really like say too much about it. But everyone's going to always going to have something to say. but I didn't let it change how I thought But was it like a hard recording process Like were you able to like All right were you writing the songs yourself Did you have to write those songs out yourself? When I was first doing it

I had one of my friends helped me at the time But um It called like as it went on Like I learned I kind of like learned how to do it Like as I was going You know But they're definitely like my first I'd say like

Like four months of songs They were not like They were just not it But eventually like anyone can do it. I think like you just develop your sound over time and you'll kind of like see like oh like this works for me this doesn't work for me and it just you kind of get a feel for like what works. Were you doing like a lot of auto tune from the beginning or is that like just something you kind of fell into? I mean I don't know. I was just kind of trying out a lot of stuff because I didn't know how to use like auto tune. Like it's more like you have to kind of use your voice and I didn't know how to do that.

But I eventually kind of learned like you have to like you can't just like mumble into like a microphone. You know what I mean? Because I use bandlap still like I stand by that like I love using that app. I'll never like I don't think I could ever give it up. I mean I'll probably eventually. Right now that's what I use and like you can't really like talk too quiet. You got to like actually like use your voice like you're like speaking. So I just kind of learn how to use it and whatnot. So yeah, it's pretty cool to kind of learn the process. Who are your favorite artists like right now? People that actually get played in your car and whatnot. Right now let me think. I've been listening. listening to, I'd say like Dior versus U, outside Silhouette, and I'd say, I've been listening to, like, Cardi's New, like, there's this one song called G-Wagon, I really like, I'd say

Osama and, like, Net, they're like, that's, like, I'd say, like, the main little group I listen to right now. You listen to anything outside the underground, or you pretty much locked in? I definitely do. I mean, I really like Siza. I mean, a lot of people probably wouldn't expect that. I like Siza and Rihanna, and I have, like, a playlist with, like, their songs, and, like,

a couple other people, like, Paramore, but but yeah. Taylor Swift? Not so much Taylor Swift. She's cool, but not my vibe. Yeah, not for when I'm alone. Okay. Interesting.

How do you feel like some of those guys that you're named in the underground, have they reached out to you yet? And how do you feel about, like, the current state of the underground? The only, let me think about that. The only person I could think of right now that, like, reached out to me, like, on my journey is, you know, I think you guys did the interview with Che, you know, Che. His manager, Will, he reached out and he was like, hey, like, I've been seeing like, you're going crazy, like, oh, blah.

It was actually like really nice. It's nice to receive those messages. Like, it's nice to like hear that like, hey, like you've been doing good. Like, hope. You know what I mean? Like those messages are always nice to receive. I don't think we ended up Che. I've seen this artist, but we didn't interview them, right?

Oh, I thought you guys did. It's C-A-G, right? Yeah, Jay Romani. No, it must be somebody else. I might be thinking of it. Or it's just not coming up in Google search. I don't think we got Shail over. No, definitely one of me.

Okay. Yeah, but no, that's dope. Yeah, very nice. For sure. Um, okay. So in your, how would you describe your TikTok output to a person who hasn't seen it? I only look through it for like a couple of minutes. I'm trying to think. I really, I have like two accounts.

I use, like, my fruit snacks account and I have like another account called Fruitfully. I like posting on that one more. I treat it more like a spam account. Like I just post like bullshit. Like I just post like whatever. It's just like random, just like random, whatever. But I would just maybe like for my spam account, I'd just say, like chaotic or just like

just like like your regular like oh like if I'm I don't know like if I'm out I'll just like film a TikTok real quick of me just like goofing off so it's just kind of like goofy like funny silly whatever like out with friends and stuff were you stressed out when you thought that they were going to ban TikTok?

A little bit but it that topic was like in talks for like years like TikTok is going to be banned but when they said like down for like eight hours yeah it was down for like eight or something but there's like when they announced a date, I was like, okay, maybe this is actually more serious, you know? When it was banned, I was like, okay, like, the only reason I was concerned is because, like,

income, but, like, I have other sources of income, so I didn't really, like, give it too much thought, but I kind of had a feeling it'd come back. Do you make legit money on there? Yeah, I quit my job for it. Really? Yeah. So it was, like, a lot of pressure for you to post every day? I actually don't post every day.

I usually do, because I get money through, like, promos, through, like, companies and stuff that pay me to use their artist songs. I usually do them in like packages, so I'll get, they'll say like five posts for this amount. And then I'll kind of like space them out over like time. So it's kind of like I get money in like bunches. It's not like every day. But that's, that's my income.

That's my income. Not the ads on TikTok. Is that kind of whatever? There's this thing called creator fund that people use. And that's how a lot of other creators get their money. And it's like, let's say like per 1,000 views, you get like, 10. 10 cents or something. Right.

And that's how a lot of those creators do it, but I've just found, like, a different way to kind of make money off of it. So that's kind of what I do. Yeah, that's cool. So you're still using, like, the same formula of how you blew other people's songs up to kind of, like, blow your music up in a way? Um, I usually put more effort in when I'm doing, like, music for me, you know? But, um, yeah, no, obviously I get, no, everyone's trying to reach out, like,

hey, like, a lot of people see me as, like, the person to come to, to, like, get your music out there. You want to get promo from me or something, but I definitely give those videos, like, thought and stuff. Like, it's not like I'm just going to, like, blow it off because everyone wants, like, a quality video for what they're paying for. And so I don't treat them, like, exactly the same, but I still give them, like, what they wanted. Like, they usually give me, like, a script of, like, what to say, what to do. And so I'd follow that for sure, because I want their vision to be in the video. But if somebody comes to you with the bag, are you willing to take it even if, like, the music is objectively horrible?

Um, it depends, but I will say I've done, I did one promo that wasn't even like money. It was for like this one app and they paid me like like 2.7K just for one video for like 30 seconds or something. But it was like kind of funny. I was like promuling an app. I was like, okay, like I never done it. But why not? Right. Yeah, at a certain point it's hard to turn it down.

But I remember having that conversation with Hyperpop Daily and they were like talking about selling promos. and I'm just like, damn, that's got to be like such a hard decision from your perspective because it's like, for them, they're like such a tastemaker type platform. And so doing promo for like weak-ass artists has got to be kind of stressful. Whereas like the no jumper account, we've just kind of always been like, listen, we're just doing promo for whatever. Like people just have to get used to it, you know? Definitely I have like, not like, I wouldn't say like an opinion, but I would say like I'm more so like,

if I like the music, I'm going to do it. But if not, I usually do it for people who have, like, a name already. Because I know that the video would do well or do well on my platform. But if someone, like, just DMs me and they're like, hey, like, how much for promo? Like, I'm not going to respond to that. It's usually, like, I've responded to emails or, like, companies kind of thing. Not just so long. It's crazy because, like, the bigger you get, the more your sponsors are going to be things that you might actually use.

And, like, when you're small, you have to do promos for, like, shit that nobody would ever want to use. For sure. I always like that. Like, when I listen to, like, Joe Rogan, I'm just, like, damn, every. sponsor on this is something that he actually would probably engage with in real life. Must be nice. But that's what the people like, but when they see like someone who's like actually passionate about what they're promoting, that's always good.

But like what you said, like to get to that point, it's like, I don't want to do this, but like I have to just for like the money aspect. But right. Yeah. It's give and take. So being that you're like from the Chicago area, do you ever listen to like Chicago? drill music or anything like that or is that something I'm not interested in? It's not like I'm not interested.

It's just not my vibe. Like, it's probably good music, but it's just not for me. Right. You never thought about becoming a GD or a BD or something? No, I can't even tell you what that stands for it. I could not tell you. Okay. Well, you know, it's an option.

It's still out there, I'm sure. So you're on Playboy? Yeah, I do Playboy. How do that happen? Literally an email. Someone from their team reached out and they were like, hey, like, we've been looking at your profile. maybe this is something you're interested in.

I looked at it at first. I'm like, Playboy. Like, I didn't know if they wanted me to like model their like clothing because they sell clothing. I was like, I don't know. Like I looked into it more and they're like, oh, like, oh shit. Like they actually want me to like be like a Playboy model. I was like, you know, like why not? Wait, but are we talking about like the Playboy only fan style app?

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So basically like Playboy has their own app. Playboy Plus or some shit that's basically supposed to be like only fans for girls who aren't actually doing like real. I think it's called Playboy Club Yeah

And what kind of content do you do for them? I haven't seen this so it was surprising Yeah it's just I kind of just like bikini pictures and stuff Like I'm not like fully you know what I mean But because that's too far but I definitely give like There's a little bit not too much You know you know you know That's interesting though

Was that a hard decision for you to make? Because I feel like for every girl who's out there In the music game whatever it's like That's such a huge decision is like Do you go the only fans, knowing they're going to make a bunch of money out the gate, but also knowing that a lot of people won't ever take you serious as an artist if you do that. But it sounds like the Playboy thing is, I mean, because that's part of the thing with OnlyFans.

Like Ruby Rose is like OnlyFans and everybody talks about her. Like she's a star. Yeah. And like if you go on her OnlyFans, it's like nothing. Yeah. Booty pictures at most. Yeah. For sure.

But it's definitely like, it was definitely a conversation. I was more scared about like what my family, like friends would think. That's really what it was in my head because I knew when I was going to do it. wasn't going to be giving like everything. I wasn't going to like, mostly everything. But you know what, you know what I mean.

But like, it was definitely a hard decision. I didn't really tell my mom until after because she's like, she has my social social. She sees everything. She's on TikTok, on Instagram. She'd see it like eventually and I kind of told her.

Like, as it was happening, she was like, just like as long as you're safe. And obviously, like I'm going to be safe about it. But definitely as like a mom, I'm sure that was like,

oh my God, like my daughter's like, my daughter's a Playboy model like that's because you know back then they weren't the best like infers some very specific things to a person who's older because back then like it was totally different what it is now but it's also just like being in Playboy

was slash is such like a status symbol because like that was the only like mainstream I don't want to say like adult publication for most people for like most of our lives yeah because they had like the magazines and all that kind of So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Very coveted at one point in my life. How do you feel about all the memes and hate that you be getting online and shit? I mean, I used to let them affect me a lot, but like, not like, I wouldn't say growing up, but like just like for as long as I've been doing it, it's kind of been like a consistent thing. Yeah. I think no matter who you are, no matter what stage you're at, you're still going to get hate. Like it could be one person and they could just say like the most like out of line thing. But at the end of the day, you cannot let it. affect you. Like it's just someone behind a screen. Like I know everyone says oh like to turn off your

phone. But like it's still going to be in your head. But I know what I'm doing. I know what I stand for. I know what I want. So I don't let it play into my head too much. It's kind of tough being a girl in the public eye in general because it just feels like so many dudes are just lying enough to pile on you. Because like what do they even give you a hard time about? I haven't really seen it. So I don't know. Um, it's honestly, it's been kind of different since when I started music. Like if I like for TikTok, people call me like chopped. I'm sure you guys know like chop. like, talk. It's like, it's basically just someone calling you, like, ugly. Right. And it's, because I don't know. It's, it's just like a stupid,

thick word that everyone throws around, like, no reason. But it's mainly that, but, like, I don't really care about that. It's like, whatever. There's, like, people who say, like, oh, I'm trying to copy this artist with my music. I'm trying to copy this artist. And it's like, it's just like, people just say stuff and say stuff. The biggest comparison, so everyone, all right, yeah, since you said that, people say that you try to bite Molly Santana. How do you feel about the Molly Santana comparison? A lot of people say that. I mean, it's like no disrespect to her at all.

Like, I'm not trying to be like her. That's just, like, how I sound. Like, that's my voice. Like, I can't change how I sound. It's just we have, like, a similar kind of thing that we do. Like, we're both, like, in the underground scene. It's, like, kind of what everyone's doing. I think it's just that we're both girls and we're both doing the same thing.

So people are going to automatically compare it. So did you ever have to promote her music at one time or no? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool, though. You just, like, randomly got a promotional thing for her.

you didn't have a relationship with her personally? I never really talked to her, no, but it's just like management in that kind of stuff, like labels and music labels. It's just them reaching out, but never her herself. Yeah, she's cool, though. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, I feel like,

does it at all occur to you that you are kind of like inherently more marketable because of the fact that you're a white girl? And do you ever, like, wonder about that? Or is that, like, something you're at all conflicted about? I've actually never thought about it like that, But I don't know. I mean, everyone has like the own different kind of way to think of it. But I never thought of it like that.

I mean, you are, you are. So it's like you can't help it or change it or whatever. But that's just kind of like, I can imagine that there's like an additional layer of resentment from certain people because they see it as you having like a easy entry into the game. Even though like we said, like how many white rapper girls can you think of? Exactly. Even how many white rappers can you think of that are actually popular? It's like a very short list. Mm-hmm. It's definitely cool to have like a different kind of like, I'm not saying like look, but like, like you said, there's no like really white girl like rappers. Like I'm sure you couldn't name five. I don't think I could name five besides myself. But it's definitely a cool way to think of it though. Like it's kind of cool, I guess.

Yeah. So how did the Black Boy Max boot camp? Georgiana. Oh, yeah. She's cool. Our new queen. Yes. She's very cool. She's though. Yeah. What did you say? How did the Black Boy Max boot camp start? How did you get on there?

Yeah, it was, I was just chilling in my bed at night. Actually, I was just recording a song at night. And then I just got like a DM from him. And it was like, hey, like, I'm doing this boot camp thing. Like, in two weeks. Let me know if you're down for it, trying to like lock this in really quick. And I was like, like, of course, like, I'm going to try it. Like, that's really cool.

And it kind of just like, throughout those two weeks, he was sending stuff in group chats. Like, hey, this is howl going to go down. who's who's going to be here and we'll have like three days it's going to be three days there's going to be challenges there's going to be prizes like stuff like that and so it was like really cool

I've always wanted to be part of like a competition kind of thing because like watching that kind of stuff it's like oh like I do this so to like actually be in it it was pretty cool though it was really fun that was actually really fun you got to give it to him because he like has really kind of figured out how to take the streaming thing and mix it with like the process

of creating music or whatever in the booth stuff yeah it's like created It's something that like, I mean, the number one thing that people in rap say about Kaysana is like it's like it's dope. Like we fuck with them. We respect them, but it's not really like hip hop. And now it's like, you know, somebody like Max has kind of like figured out how to make his shit more about music. It's kind of dope. I think it's really cool how he can like he said, I think he's streaming like every day this whole year. So just like every day it's like something different. Like it's either in the booth. Like he said like he did the boot camp thing. IRL streaming. Like it's just like you said it's really cool to just be like. how many different things he can incorporate into what he does. That's, like, cool. Yeah. Streaming every day. Like,

when you really think about that shit? That's insane. Yeah. I heard Kai talking about, like, you know, he took Christmas and, like, chose to stream rather than just, like, spending it with his family. I'm like,

that is an insane work ethic. Yeah. So it's an insane. Side. Yeah. Exciting factor, for sure. But streaming is just so like that. We just have to, like,

put in these insane hours in order to dominate, yeah. I've done streaming with, like, um, like, I haven't ever streamed myself. Like I haven't gone on like Proostenac Switch and like stream But there's like

I've done collabs with people who stream But like from being on those I've always thought like I could never just like Sit in front of a desk and entertain That is like so not me Like I could never do that Yeah It's such a different mentality

Like the way I feel right now Versus when I like stream by myself It's just like streaming by yourself It's just so much more pressure That like every five seconds or whatever I gotta like think of something else to say Whereas on this it's like I'm asking.

asking you a question and then I can like sit back and think about the next thing I want to say you know it's just like so different it's really cool to see how like people grind to get to that spot like people will grind for like let's say like two years and they'll have five viewers those whole like that whole time and then it just takes that one clip that'll blow you up and that's like that's kind of with everything though like it just takes that one thing for you to like blow up yeah that was the clip of acon flirting with you that kind of blew you up a little bit oh my that was so random that was on max's shit Yeah, it was. He was hating on all the other artists, and then, like, she was the only one that he was like, nah, this is dope. What's it called? One of the contestants was his son, so that's why he was there.

So he was like, he came on as, like, a special guest judge. And I was, like, why is he here? Because I forgot that, like, he had, like, one of the sons that was there. But that was actually really cool. And then he was rating everyone low, and I was, like, thinking in my head, I'm, this guy going to read me. I was like, what is this guy going to say?

Because I knew who's probably going to say something, like, bullshit just for, like, clip. You know what I mean? But, and then he started talking about, like, my dirty socks. Like, he was, like, minus points for dirty socks. But he was, like, I didn't even have dirty socks. I was wearing slippers. He's like, like, I don't know what this, like, image you got on is, but, like, I f*** with it.

Like, this is like, like, food snacks. Like, I like this. Like, I like this. Like, I like, oh, my God, this guy is like. But it was so funny. It was unexpected. People say, like, all that kind of stuff is scripted. But no, nothing was like, nothing like that's scripted.

I didn't even know he was going to be there, but definitely funny. That's funny. When I first met, he was a. I just looked at me. It had like the crispest hairline I've ever seen in my life. And it was just mind-blowing. Like, holy shit. Look at that. I don't know. Um, okay. So do you, uh, like that thing that you did with little Mosy, how did that come about? Um, through my manager, he was like, we're doing like these segments where it's like small talk. So it's like two people. And then they both ask each other questions and that kind of stuff. I never thought I'd do it with like little mozy. Like I don't like, that's, like, that's. It's like, Will Mosy. Like that word's two, like, separate, like, you know what I mean? Like, fruit stacks is Lil Mosey. Like, you never think to see those two names together.

Because he was, yeah. He popped off in, like, 2017 and 2018. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, prime lyrical lemonade era. It's kind of crazy to look back on that. And when, like, my manager texted me that, I was like, like, like, okay, like, why not? And he was actually really nice. It was a really fun thing to shoot.

It was, like, it was, like, the conversation flowed really well, and he was very nice. And so that was actually really fun to do. There's a lot of op talk. What was that? Just talking about ops. Oh, yeah. What do you do if you saw your op? Yeah, and it was just like a bunch of like, like, marine rot stuff.

It was like, I can't even think of like a question right now, but, um, yeah, it was, it was really fun to shoot. So, yeah. Was that Pilgrim's house? It looked familiar. I think it was, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was really cool view. Yeah, yeah, that's Pilgrim's great.

Shout my boy Pilgrim. What about the Hot Toa look appearances? You been seeing that? That was like. a while ago. Like that was like I remember seeing that like someone made a video was like Haley Welch or fruit snacks and that people were saying like oh like fruit snacks is the underground hawk to it like what does that mean like what does that mean but what is the hawk to a girl besides just a random white girl that we decided to make famous yeah I mean there's always that like

every year every two years there's always like the one person who blows up from doing like nothing like remember like the yodeling kid the backpack kid like it's the same kind of like deal you know I definitely interviewed the backpack kid. You did? Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh. When was that? Like, what year?

27, 0, 28. Wow. It was right after, there was a thing where he went on stage with ski mass of some god while they were performing an X tribute. And he goes up on stage and starts doing the floss or whatever. And like, I think ski mask security went, like grabbed him and pulled him off stage. He was everywhere. Yeah.

And people thought it was kind of disrespectful that he was doing his little TikTok day during the tribute to X, which it definitely was. I know that he did something with, like, Katie Perry too. Like he did like, he was doing like everything. Yeah, he was in one of her music videos. He's still figuring it out like on there. I watched some YouTube video about him the other day.

Well, forever being known was like the backpack. That's not going to go away. It's never going to go away. It's never going to go away. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Definitely.

So, okay, what's a J-O-I? Oh my God. I actually know exactly what it is. You probably. Yeah. I'm not, you know. Wait, so people ask you for this? it's just like I don't even know how I started it was like oh my god it was so stupid it was like this um it's one guy named Omar he like commented this and it was like every month there'd be like a new like trend in my comments like the trend was like the trend was like the trend was like the comment and this guy was like oh like make a J.

like I didn't even know what it was at the time like I don't even think I saw the comment until everyone else started commenting it you have to be like a pretty hardcore gooner to even know what that is yeah I'm like what this is like my girl will have to like go in and record a bunch of J-O-Is to like sell an O-F. Like she, so she's literally just her like talking to the camera and describing the process of doing that and like telling them to do it. It just became like a whole like joke meme. It even like reached like I remember I was watching like I don't know if it like started in my comments like obviously like that word was a thing before.

But then I saw like on Twitter. I saw like one of the sidemen used it in their video. I'm like how did this get like how did this become like this? big, like, everyone's talking about now. Because, like, I didn't even know it was before. Like, I'd never heard someone talk about that. And now it's, like, this stupid thing that everyone says. I think it's because, like, maybe I'm wrong,

but, like, your vibe is very much, like, not a intense, sexy vibe or whatever. Like, you give, like, nerdy vibes, kind of, or, like, you know, quiet, like, shy girl vibes. So, like, the idea of asking for that is just, like, just, like, it just really stands out as funny as fuck. Because on Playboy, there's, like, a thing where you can, like, message people and, like, like, Like, people can, like, message me for, like, two bucks for me. But it's like, I would get, like, things on that be like, oh, like, can you please, can you please, we'll stick a J-O-W? I'm like, no, like, I'm not posting that.

Like, who do you think I am? I'm like, oh, my God. You have to respect the brand. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Never, never, never, never, never. So you have a boyfriend? What's your status?

He's right there. Oh, is him? Okay. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. That's your boy. I don't know.

Yeah. People thought you were dating Fais Lacey. Who said that? No, say that. There's like a clip of you and him, like, talking. I don't know. I never met him, never talked to him. Only over text.

Oh, you're talking about the VexBoltz thing. There's a clip of you and him talking on the phone. It was, I think him and Vex, you know Vex bolts. Do you guys know Vex bolts? Do you guys know Vex bolts? Like the massive unfollowing guy. Remember, like, last year was like, oh, like, everyone's going to unfollow this guy. Like.

Vex bolts. You're telling me this guy, don't. I don't know who you do. I'm not super into it. I stole seven million followers from pictures. talk. That's a video you made. Probably, yeah, yeah. But basically, I think they were

at some sort of, like, event. And then Vex texted me, he's like, hey, like, what's your number real quick? Or, like, can I, like, or no, he was like, can I give my friend your number to call you? I was like, okay, like, ooh. And then Lacey called me, and I didn't even know he was on stream. But I should have, like, known that. That should have been

so obvious. But he called me, and then he was like, I don't even know what he said. He was like, I don't even know. But it was like, it became, like, a whole, It was like a little clip and it just like blew up and I was like, oh my God. Like I didn't, I didn't know I was on stream. And then my friend texted me. Oh my God. I thought it was a thing for a second.

No, no, no, no, no. My friend texted me. He was like, did you see this clip? I'm like, what clip? And then I saw it and I was like, dude, that was live streamed. I was like, oh my fucking God. But I'm, I just feel like I'm so like oblivious at times. If you did like a fake relationship with him, I feel like that would make you like

10 times more famous. Although I don't know if you really like want that kind of fame. But like, I feel like that was really. had so many, like, people trying to be, like, weird and, like, ruin my relationship and, like, that's like, like, pissed. Oh, so this is, like, a very longstanding thing? How many years ago been to be? I mean, we've known each other for, like, five years, but, like, recently, like, six, seven

months, we've just been dating, so, yeah. He's been with you the whole rise to the top. Mm-hmm. Like, from, like, what was it, 2020? We met? Yeah, early 2020, like, probably, like, February, January, and, like, known me since that whole time. There was a second during this interview where I kind of glanced over, and I was like,

wait, that's not a little shine, right? Oh my God. The amount of comments he gets about that is so funny. No, you're not the only one. It's been a thing. It's so funny. Oh, my God. That's funny.

Do you guys ever interview him? Yeah. Before the Fed charges. Oh, my gosh. What even happened with that? Did they get dropped? I don't know. What is happening with that?

I do not know. But that was just so bizarre to realize, like, we thought we were just interviewing like an underground rapper, and then it turns out he's some sort of kingpin. I don't know. Thug. He's out, though. He is?

He is? He is, right? Yeah. So what's, what was the inspiration behind the Hellraiser music video? Inspiration? I don't even. Because it was, it kind of reminded me of like, that Jordan Pill. Oh, yes, yes, it was.

I totally forgot about that. I watched that shit and I thought of the Us shit. I think it was just because, like, we were, like, planned, like, we were so sat on doing this on Halloween. So I was wearing a mask. Yeah. And I was like, like, let's reveal on Halloween. like because you know everyone's wearing costumes i was like let's drop this on midnight on Halloween and it did so well and i was like how could i like how could i like make it be me but also

the girl in the mask and i watched i watched us for the first time back in february last of last year and then i forgot what it was but i just thought of us and i was like wait like this was filmed in la like that movie was filmed i think on dana monica here i i want to say i could be wrong but that was filmed there and I was like wait let's film this on the beach let's make this whole thing like because there's a part where she looks in the mirror and it's like the mask and so we kind of

had to like make our own way to do that and I was like this is like perfect like this is this is it this is it so yeah so that was your first music video and then you dropped the other one what's the second one that you? First music video on my page under my name but I've done others under Hyperpop Daily

but that was my first one that I did under my name and you were just filming the music video on the way here right mm-hmm I was yeah yeah that actually turned out really great I think it was gonna be my best one like that was like insane that was like literally on the way here so you're like hanging out the roof of the rental not like literally like on the way but like um like before we were on the way here from like I think we've been doing it since like 11 in the morning like changing shots and stuff so yeah so you're about to take this music shit super serious like you're yeah yeah I like doing it's kind of

cool though I like doing music and then I also like do content like it's I don't know which one I want to do, but like, I definitely like having options. I'm thinking definitely music right now. I think I'm going to come out with like a little tape soon with music. So I don't know. I'm just kind of seeing where it takes me. So it's cool to like. Yeah, the label's trying to sign you and shit.

I've had a few, but I don't want to take anything like because usually like I want to have like more stuff out before I do. Like I want to stay independent for a while. But definitely like a label talk would be in the talk soon for sure. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, you got to be careful. It's a line, a mind-field out there. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Okay, so what's going on with this hoodie that you're wearing right now? I did a photo shoot for this one brand. It's literally called Rino Dick Pill. I'm so serious. That's the brand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a fashion brand that has nothing to do with Dick pills. Rino Dick Pill.

I don't, I think so. I hope not. But I don't know what the, I don't even know. But I got like this custom hoodie made for, like, modeling their stuff. And it has like, these are my little logos where this is like, I made like, I am fruit snacks. Like it's F-R-I-U-T. It's like the Welch's logo. And then I got like this is like a little graphic I made.

I don't know if you can see it. But it's like fruits. And then I got like another one somewhere on the arm. Oh yeah. I got this one right here. I like little. So you designed that already? I sent like the images in that I wanted on it.

I didn't actually like design it. but we were talking, we're like, hey, like, let's place this here, let's place this here. And actually really like how it turned out, so it's a nice one-on-one. Does anyone want a rhino dick-pill fingerboard? I don't. This is real. Are you going to get one? I'm not actually ball out and buy some stuff from them because this is pretty cool.

Yeah, you could buy one. I've never tried one of those. Doesn't, no, it's not like. No, I'm saying like the little fingerboards. It's not like a big pill company, but it is like a company that has named themselves in such a way that is probably intended to confuse you. yeah they don't really have much clothes available most of their stuff is sold out yeah yeah so like how deep are you into like fashion and shit because like you'd be thrifting and shit right i actually still go thrifting and stuff the other day

it was friday i went thrifting for five hours oh work yeah i was just like i was like i woke up i was like you know like let me just go out in the morning and i just like thrifted like the whole day but it was like fun just around L.A no i'm from Chicago area so i was like around there but I'm on Malrose sometimes. Like I went to wasteland the other day. I went to Second Street. Like I feel like those are the only two like really like thrift stores kind of around there.

But I definitely like going to like different shop. I've watched like a few YouTube videos of people who live in like smaller towns and like areas where they just like are literally just hunting in goodwill and random thrift shops all the time. And they find shit that they can actually make like legit money off, which is kind of crazy. Did you ever use to thrift or anything? I went to thrift stores a little bit but not in any kind of hard. hardcore way, but I used to go to him a little bit. It was kind of a normal thing to do when I was like 18.

Yeah, I got these jeans actually when I was 15. They're like some Zara jeans, but they're like actually pretty cool. Yeah. What are the, yeah, what clothing brands do you endorse or approve of? Actually, let me think. I'm trying to think what I own most of. I mean, right now I've been wearing like a lot of old like pink, like pink Victoria's Secret stuff, but like brand brands, there's this one brand called like hysteric glamour.

that I wear a lot. I don't know, I just have, like, a lot of, like, basic stuff. I don't know. Not really too much, like, brand-brand unless I buy something nice, but, yeah, more thrifty, so. Definitely. Yeah. What's up with your friendship with Diddy Bob?

I'm so cool with him. I just don't, like, hang out with them that much anymore, but they're pretty cool, yeah. Okay. Well, you guys never did music together? Do you have any kind of film? No. I never, I don't even know if he really makes music, but, yeah.

No, he's like influencer. Yeah, he just makes He just makes like TikToks and stuff. I think I'm conflating him with someone else in my brain right now, okay. Yeah, he used to make like Fortnite remix songs. Okay, I'm gonna say that that's what I meant. You did Fortnite remixes. Yeah.

I'm gonna boy Diddy Bob. Yeah. I could never make like a troll song and like post it. Like I'd do it with like my friends and stuff, but I would never like actually like post a troll song because then that's like, then that's like, okay, like we should not take this person serious, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You're conscious of that of like the fact that you could do that.

just do the wrong meme style thing, troll style thing, and that it would just fuck your image up for everybody. Definitely more now, I mean that I'm doing music. Back then, like, back then, meaning like before I was posting music, like under my name, I wouldn't care too much, but now, like, if you make any move. Like, you know how artists are? Like, they want to be like, oh, like, I'm so cool. I have aura. Like, I don't really care too much about that. I'm just having fun. So, yeah. Mm-hmm. Definitely. Um, okay, so what did you do with our boys, 607 Unk? Is this, this is a real thing?

Not 607. Who? Oh, 42 CEO. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Shout out of 677. I was having a really hard time imagining her hanging out with him. So, okay.

Man, yeah, 42 CEO. Y'all was on stream, I said, well? Yeah, we just did, um, he had, like, a songworse thing. I did a stream with him back in, like, September, which was fun. We, we did, like, half IRL stream and then half, like, desktop. Have you guys seen, like, like, where I did, like, did like a like a really cooked freestyle. I did like a freestyle and it was like really bad. No, I didn't see it. It was like, um, basically like chat like on his live stream gave me like three

words and I had to like freestyle off them. But like no one knew I made music at that point. So I had to like I made the freestyle like like bad at like on purpose but like to look where I was trying. And it became like a whole like meme. Like people were using that audio and like slideshow. So like that kind of. It was really funny. But recently, um, Yesterday we just did, it was like a song wars, and we were just, like, reacting to people's, like, fit pics and, like, rating people's, like, food and, like, their meals and stuff. It was pretty cool. It was really fun. Yeah.

For sure. What kind of music do you listen to outside of rap? I would say Rihanna and Siza most. So just more RV? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually, like, I don't know. Like, I like, I like singing along to it, too. It's, like, fun.

Yeah. Are you playing on moving L.A.? Here. Here's the... No, I think I already... You got it? Oh, you got it? Okay. I definitely would. I mean, I still live with my mom, but

not something I just, like, think about seriously right now, but in the future, like, I definitely think about it. I love it out here. I think people always talk about, like, what's better, New York or L.A. I think I like New York for the walking aspect. Everything's very, like, accessible

with, like, the transport and all that. I just like the weather here. I like, I just like the environment more, like how everything is, so definitely here. often are you travel in LA nowadays? I came here actually pretty frequent, more than New York. I came here

for the max thing at the end of January. I'm here now, and then I'm going to come back here for rolling loud in like two weeks. So actually, it's been more frequent than I normally would, but I'm not thinking to come out here more. Yeah. What's your mom do? She just works at, like, a school, like, in the office, so.

Yeah, she doesn't really, like, every time I try and explain to her what I do, she's just like, I still don't get it. But it's just like, like, you know, like a mom. Like, she's like, I don't know what you're doing. Like, as long as like you're safe, like, I don't really care what you do. Like, it looks like it's fun. Like, you know what I mean?

Yeah. She must have a hard time wrapping her head around the fact that you don't need a job and that you're making money from TikTok and shit. Yeah, she was telling me she was like in 2025, like you should get like a job again. I'm like, mom, just, just this is my job. Like, I don't need like, I don't need like a job. Like unless it's like, like, it's like, hey something like I guess if something like really big happened I don't know but like I don't need

a job and like I've explained that to her and I think she understands more now but like in the beginning she was like I don't know if this smart choice to quit your job because I used I was working at um there's breakfast restaurant I was just bringing out like drinks like I was just bringing out like orange juice apple juice like whatever anyone wanted but um it was just like average like job like minimum wage job and I was like I'm having to take off so much time I'm traveling all the time I was making more off one video than I was I wasn't like a two-week paycheck. So it was like, this is like, this is just dragging out my life.

Like, I don't need to be working. So, yeah. Are you going to send your mom this interview and be like, mom, look, I was on the jumper? Or is she like such a normie that she wouldn't understand? She, like, we were just talking about this in the car. Like, my mom doesn't really know, like, so much about, like, internet people. Like, you know speed? Like, he's, like, the biggest streamer, like, everybody knows speed.

I showed her a picture of him. She's like, I have no clue who that is. Like, she's, like, she's, like, just doesn't really know, like, much. Unless I show her something, like, she'll know, like, my favorite artist. She'll know, like, who I listen to. She'll know, like, the concerts I go to, like, what I do, like, with the people I do stuff with. But, like, anyone else that I've never done anything was, she has, like, no clue. So, yeah.

My dad thought Rima was Gucci Man. Really? Wow. That's definitely. Yeah. That's a real old dad. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. I actually changed that story. Yeah, I'm about to say, well. Just to be on somebody else, but I'm going to change it. I'm going to switch it to you. What the fun? I don't believe you're exploiting.

I'll take it. So going back to college, not an option? I'm actually still in college. Oh, you are in college. Yeah, I'm doing, I'm still going to, like, community college. I'm not like, I would never, like, be in, like, a university or, like, a sorority. Like, that's so not me. But I've always said, like, I could never see myself dorming.

That's just something I could never do. But, I mean, I like school. I keep wanting to think, like, obviously. like I'm like doing this now I'm doing great like but is it like I don't know like something could happen like I don't know if it's like for long term but I just want to get like my basic degree and just like have something so I'm trying to finish it out right now yeah anybody in school ever like talk to you about your career I like I think next semester I'm literally switching to online school because I don't get recognized like every day but like

there'll be people like looking at me there'll be people coming up to me and be like oh like are you that girl on TikTok? Like one time I was in the bathroom at school and I was literally just washing my hands and like I turned at this girl I was like oh I like your hair and she's like oh thank you

are you what's next? I was like it's like it just catches me off guard so much and this other time this was like around like when the max thing happened I came back to school the next day after getting home like on a flight and I was just like in the library and I was just like on my phone

and then this guy comes up to me he's like were you like on the max stream yesterday like are you like how was it and I was like it's so weird like knowing that like there's just people out there that like know what I do sometimes they don't even come up to me and it's it was just like it's just like caught me off guard because they'll be like like literally anyone could know you like you like you don't know you know like it's so random like I'm sure you've gotten recognized at times but like you didn't expect it it's like if 10 people that's the weirdest thing about it is if 10 people come up to you and talk to you that means there's probably like 100 people that saw you and kind of knew who you were just didn't say anything which is definitely and there's definitely like the places where like people would recognize you more and like you'll expect to be recognized but like at school like I would never because I'm just like in like a random suburb in Chicago and like people know I'm from Chicago but like at my school I just think it's like I don't know it's like just being recognized at school is such a weird spot you know. Wow okay I really don't have my own life anymore like my internet life is going to overlap with me trying to have an actual professional life that's

why I want to go to online like I think I'm going to do online in classes next semester. So I think that'll help me more. Getting too much cloud out here. I don't know. I don't know about that. But it's definitely growing. So where do you see yourself in five years from now?

Ooh, that's actually a good question. I don't know. I'd imagine I'd still be doing what I'm doing now in some type of way. Content, music, don't know. I don't know if I'll be more up, more stagnant. Who knows? Literally anything can happen in five years. I mean, I blew up at, like, end of 2023 and look where I am now.

So could get bigger. I don't know. But I don't know. I just like, I don't want to say like, oh, I'm going to be here in five years. I kind of rather be like optimistic about it. Like, I don't know. I don't know where I'll be in five years. You're so young that it's like you don't need to be on like a specific path.

You should just kind of keep your mind open to what the different opportunities might be. I feel like. Exactly. How do you feel about this is a management question, but how do you, what do you think about the portion of your fan base that is incredibly thirsty for you? Oh, my God. They probably don't want me to hear that out. No, you didn't write that? No.

Oh, this might be a convergence of Rimo's questions and your questions. So, okay. So Rimo is the creeper wrote that question. I didn't write it, but I'll just let it rot. What was it again? The, like, thirsty thing? Yeah, like, is it kind of shocking, like, the way that your fans feel about you? I just think it's, like, any, like, literally any girl that's, like, on social media,

they'll be, like, just, like, I don't know. It's just like, sort of weird. Like, I don't like it. But, like, obviously, it's still going to happen. Right. It's just like, I've gotten, like, weird DMs. Like, oh, my God, I've gotten so much weird shit, but I just don't even look at my DMs anymore.

Did you see those three Asian girl streamers that were streaming? Yes. Like, yesterday. It was like, um, Sinner Velke Ray and Poki or something. And they got, like, attacked on Sinomachau. The dude, like, comes up to him. He's like, I can kill you. And he has, like, just taking a photo with them.

It was super scary. And I saw, like, a clip this morning, like, one of the girls was crying on stream and I saw the comments and people were like why did she like crying? Like that's like real deal scary. Like if someone comes up to you like if someone came up to me

and I was by myself and I didn't have like anyone around me like oh I'm gonna kill you like what am I gonna do? Like I don't think what am I gonna do? You know? It's scary. They were at the Sanamanica up here where there's like security around and shit but I don't think they had their own security.

No, it was probably just like the cameraman who's a guy I'm assuming but at the end of the day that's not his job but still like I think he did step in, which is good, but that's still really scary. That's really scary. Yeah. Okay, we've got to protect fruit snacks at all costs.

What do you got coming up that you want to highlight or tell people to check out or keep an eye out for? I mean, I got my Playboy thing I'm doing. I definitely have a tape coming soon. I just shot a video for a song called Who Said, so that'll be coming out soon. As far as like other stuff, I don't know. I mean, I definitely have stuff that comes up quick, but I'd say those are like the main things right now. So, yeah. For sure.

Well, thank you, Remo, for setting this up. I think you're going to go a long way. I think you're probably going to be signed to opium within the next two months, three months. Oh, my gosh. I can see it for sure. Double-O fruit. All right, fruit snacks, everybody. Tap in, No John Brick, coolest podcast.

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