No Jumper - Geechie Gotti & T Money On No Jumper Beef, Bringing Drake Back To Compton, Exposing Remy & Eazi

Episode Date: September 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper coolest podcast in the world, man. We're here with my boy T-Money, man, and he brought his homie Gigi, man. I had to. In the building, man. If I had to come up, you have to do it up with my partner, man. Yeah, listen, man, I'm suspicious of you T-Money.
Starting point is 00:00:14 Right? Because you two tapped in, man. Right? Man, I know. You're like, two tapped in, right? Right? Like, listen, like, it's crazy too, right? Because L.A. is filled with dudes like you, right?
Starting point is 00:00:25 Who, like, they just move around in almost every circle, and it's kind of like hard to figure out like, here, for example, like you came here last time with King Yeller, like, right? Yeah. On Chicago Savage, right? Yeah. And then you came here with like, with like suspect's dad. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Right? And now you're with Gigi Gotti. Yeah, yeah. Those are three very different circles. Like, right? Like, those are three like very different circles, right? So T-Money, why, like, why are you so tapped in? Oh, how did you get so tapped in?
Starting point is 00:00:54 Just networking, man. Networking, man. That's all it is, man. God. Man, stop it, bro. Listen, the guy ain't got nothing. God ain't got nothing to do with this, man. Cut it out, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:05 What's the sauce, bro? Like, how do you get in these circles? I can't tell you. I tell you, I got to kill you, fly. Right? Look, right. Look, so is it like an IG DM game, bro? Like, you just say, hey, yo, listen, yo, I'm Tee Money.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm the man out here, bro. When you come out here, man, listen, check in. You feel me? Man, I don't know. Just a perfect place, like the right time. You know what I'm saying? you feel me with the King Yos situation. My homies from the Bay hooked that up.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I'm just like, I'm out here. Well, bam, I'm going to a jumper with King Y'u. They want to come? I'm going to pull up. You know what I'm saying? And did the big homie, BG, Crouch out of the Crow. He was like, oh, man, all my folks is a suspect. Come on.
Starting point is 00:01:40 All right, cool. You know what I'm saying? So, just, that's how we met. You know what I'm saying? So. Now, have rappers tapped in with you, man? Yeah. A lot.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Now, all right? Now, when you say tap in, right? Like, what's the protocol? Because, like, I'll be real, right? civilian, so I'm not really in nothing, like, crazy, right? Yeah. But if I, like, go to a city, like, like, I don't feel like the most bitch-ass nigga ever, man,
Starting point is 00:02:04 if I pick up a phone and say, hey, bro, I'm in your city, man, like, come in, you feel me, man, you know, like, hold me down, protect me, you feel me, right? So, like, how do that go? Not less, more or less, like, protect me. It's like, nigga, I'm in your city, like, I'm gonna tap in, you know what I'm saying? You feel me?
Starting point is 00:02:19 So it's like, I didn't play in places with a Gitch in New York, and I'll pull up, you got New York guys already with him, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, we all follow the same protocol as far as if we in somebody's state, we got to tap in because it's kind of stupid not to tap in with your partners that's from that state, you know what I'm saying? You said, we got jury on the shit with him.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You're sitting here just looking like licks, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I was a victim of that one time in Miami. Damn they got you? No, they didn't. I almost did, you know what I'm saying? I ain't tap in. I think I'm doing my thing. It's pandemic.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You know, I'm doing my thing. I just barely just bought this shang, you feel me? So I'm doing my thing and shit. I beat the promoter to the club. I was feeling myself, you feel me, and my people was pulled up, like, hey, bro, why you ain't tapped that in the way, you feel me? Man, I seen niggas peeping on the corner, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? And I was in the hood. I'm not knowing that.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, I was in Miami in the hood, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to identify. Yeah, very hard. You know what I'm saying? So, by the grace of God, man, me, my niggas got little. We left the bitches and the bottles. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:18 You'll be real, bro. Yeah. Like, you have to be a special type of raggedy nigger to try to rob a nigga during the pandemic. Because at that time, bro, it's free money, bro. No, no cap. If 20 can't hear, 40,000 out here, bro. Bro, niggas was up during the pandemic, bro. So, like, if you were still trying to rob a nigga during the pandemic, bro, you just, like,
Starting point is 00:03:36 you have no hope. Like, you'll forever be broke. Forever. Right? Some business was trying to get his stuff on the extra people, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. Extra, extra funding, you know what I'm saying? I mean, yo, man, him, hey, man, like, okay, man, like, what's your story, man?
Starting point is 00:03:51 So, so you were, I would assume, because you, because you, because, you, because, you, Because you don't give like L.A. Transplant vibe, right? Like, you give L.A. native, right? That's big because a lot of these things are from Detroit, New York. Nah. All that shit, bro. A girl told me, she was like, yeah, you're for Detroit, right? I'm like, enough for Compton.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You know what I'm saying? Oh, you're from Compton. I'm from L.A. Yeah, for Compton, yeah. Ah. Yeah. All right. So, border raising Compton.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. Now, I'm not going to ask for the affiliations because that's too policed, you feel? Yeah. Right. And listen, usually when I know who I can pull the police shit where, right? You know, got he don't really give a toleration of anything police.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You feel me right? You feel me right? But this is my young homeboy, man. He grew up in our area, our neighborhood. He's not with the banging. So when people see him out and hanging, of course he's with us because we know him from our area, you know what I'm saying, our environment.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But he's able to go to and from where with around different people because that's what we're pushing. You know what I'm saying? If you got talent, we're going to still staying behind you. If somebody gave you a problem, of course, we're going to be there to have your back. But he's not out here pushing, like, his music, he's not pushing no gang stuff. He's not pushing no negativity.
Starting point is 00:05:04 A lot of his music ain't about shoot him up, bang, bang, none of that, man. A lot of his music about getting money, having fun, turning up. So that's why when you asked the question earlier, how he's able to move around all these different circles, that's also another reason why he's able to. Because, yeah, he's not out here, like, holding himself to political ties of being able not to move around. And like he said, you just be in the right place at the right time, being natural. Like the homie knew L.A. Cool, which is what, the suspect pop, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:29 So, boom, that was the connection. The same way, like he said, his boys from the Bay hooked him up, boom, with the guy from Chicago, you know what I'm saying? So being true to yourself and not out here trying to push yourself and be something you're not going to open doors for a lot of niggins that might close when people trying to portray images that don't fit them, you know what I'm saying? So I think that's what makes him unique, you know what I'm saying, as an artist out here on the West Coast is he still. is he still being true to himself. Like, yeah, I know, I'm around, niggas that do that, all that shit that you niggas rapping about I'm around them,
Starting point is 00:05:57 but I'm around them niggas all day, but I ain't got to sit up here and throw rags on my face in the video just to look cool, you know what I'm saying? Yo, that's kind of like cool too, right? Because, yo, we've seen, like, people, like, just move to L.A. And within, like, two years day. Banging, doings a weird, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 So you being a native, like, why didn't you choose to, like, you know, just rap something? It's at my front door, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? You know what I'm saying? Like on that type of topic, like my uncle started another fraction of Gichi's neighborhood
Starting point is 00:06:26 called Rimmer Street Hustlers. So that's enough already. My family started something. You know what I'm saying? So as a young, as a youth, seeing the feds kicking the dough, 93, 92. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:36 So it's like, and we all grew together. So why claim something? We already down for each other. You know what I'm saying? No, true. But like, I was always told, right? Like, for example, right?
Starting point is 00:06:47 And like, you're not claiming it. Like, you still don't get the 100% privilege of, like, right? Like, hey, right, for example, right? If you're, let's say, like, you know, like a non-affiliate who we fuck with, you know, right? Like, like, your family, there's still some perks that you don't get, right? Like, if you don't fool me? There's no perks with gang banging. Mm.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Nah. Death and jail. That's the perk. Yeah. You feel? What else do you get? Well, the protection? No.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Protection from what? niggas die go to jail. Who protects you from that? God. True. Yeah. And certain obligations that they got to do, I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Dig it on saying certain codes. I want to make sure I say there's no perk with gaming. I know what I mean? Not fair. So like when the kids see, there's nothing cool about it. My homeboy that's out there right now. He's coming here right now. He's sitting down.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I'm going to try to, he's going to be on my podcast later. Maybe he's sitting down with Adam. Somebody later. He just coming from two life sentences. He was in jail since he's 16. That new youth offender law allowed him to get out. He'd bid seven. Two life sentences.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Oh, I need that story, man. Listen to the show. 17 years in prison since 16 years old. For how, when they're talking about him on swamp stories and shit, don't even know he out. They got his cases on the internet and all the kind of shit and got it wrong. You dig what I'm saying? Really?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Hey, listen, forget Adam. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, holy, man. And he'll tell you, when it's done, when he'll tell you, it ain't no perks to this shit. Because that's all, since, so when he's in jail, he losing loved ones, family members to this shit. You can't go to their funerals. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:13 You're losing time. You ain't doing nothing in that jail, but working out, fighting. It ain't like you eat none of the best foods that we eating out here no more. You're not able to fuck bitches. You're not able to get money. So he actually got the best because he's able to still, like I say, move around but you still got that genuine love because
Starting point is 00:08:28 niggas forget real street, niggas, niggas want you to be yourself. The average nigger, when a nigga coming up, they tell you, go play sports, go do something. Don't do this. Now, if you decide to choose to do it, then we'll come with it is with you. But we're not never trying to grab you and pull you towards that. Nobody with any common sense. You're going to try to make some niggas bang some shit when you
Starting point is 00:08:44 know what, especially if you love them, you got family you fucking with them like niggas see a nigga moving wrong like now if you tried to bang you know man what you're paying bang for how'm you from somewhere else man gonna do what you do it's doing man keep podcast and now hell not just because you hanging with us and shit and they're gonna let you know that when you is with us something bad could happen don't don't so don't just think hanging with us mean that it's gonna be all fun and game because it might turn up but don't ever think it's nothing just because you see in the lights and the camera the glitz the glamour is no perks you know what I'm saying so being a non-affili and being yourself
Starting point is 00:09:12 is the perk because you don't have to worry about like he said the obligations that's somebody might have to take upon their self by putting the rag on their head, putting the rag in their back pocket and representing it wholeheartedly. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, man. And a lot of these dudes get caught up in that to where, like you said, they come from other places of the states. And they're looking at like, ooh, I might get to get the protection.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I might get to hang around these niggas and they hold. I might get a part of a little money operation and this and that. But they don't understand it. Like, man, that shit is temporary. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, why do you feel like when I say that same message, right? when I deliver it, right, because me, I come to Rick Rock
Starting point is 00:09:51 and had a conversation too, right? My nigga Rick Rock. Right? When I say the exact same thing that you just said, there's dudes who I want to talk about. Nigel, you're not from here. Nigel, don't say gang banging is bad when I see you. I'm going to kill you. I'm a guy.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So why do you feel like people have that eviscer? It's because you have to be a part of something to even speak on something. I can't tell you the NBA is bad if I ain't never been in the NBA. I don't know the goods and the bad. ass size of it. So like you can't, I can't get in there and be like, man, the NBA bullshit. It's a scam for niggas trying to play basketball. They only give in certain niggas to the money. The rest of the niggas leave and go broken. I wouldn't go to the NBA. They should all play for the Negro leagues or whatever. You dig what I'm saying? And sit
Starting point is 00:10:29 on it like a motherfucker on look at it. Like you can't have that knowledge to say, what's bad about it because like I say, even from that point, like my home always got a podcast called Deeply Rooted. Where they're trying to speak on more of the history to give people because some people think just all the negative stuff. So like I say, there's no perks. But from the original side of it is all about community. You know what I'm saying? It's about uplifting your community, man. That's why you do, you see
Starting point is 00:10:52 people helping the old ladies taking their trash out or making sure the kids is in school, like it makes them trying to make sure you're doing a full drive. We're doing the back-to-school drive on August 10th out there in Compton. You know what I mean? So stuff like that is what it's really about. You know what I'm saying? The community, that's where it started from. So when you hear somebody that's not a part of that,
Starting point is 00:11:08 just bashing it totally, nigga. I'm like, man, you ain't got the right to speak on it unless you're trying to come change. You feel what I'm saying? So if you're just saying bullshit, but you're not like, hey, I'm coming to the community let y'all know not do no bullshit and i got something better for y'all you feel you ain't got nothing better ain't nothing to say you know what i'm saying yeah here russell what do you think like it's the proper way for me to have that same message up hey bro kids man the streets is bad and pull up and show the kids something different okay you gotta pull up you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:11:34 you gotta pull up i just was on the podcast with my nica munchy he said they got some of inglewood you're supposed to pull up to or something right with the kids or something same shit like i say when you're doing shit like that for nick a scene you're active you've been on this podcast you've been in LA for a minute. If a niggas start seeing you active when these niggas and these different hoods is doing toy drives and Thanksgiving giveaways and giving up backpacks back and shit like that to these kids and you out there as well donating some of your money towards or just buying supplies doing it too, then you can lead that message because you're like, look, I'm showing the kids, nigga, I got something for them better. That's better.
Starting point is 00:12:03 You saw them something different. I can't just sit on my computer and tell you that it's better if I ain't coming in there and feeling your pain knowing why that you don't know it's better yet because everybody don't got the opportunity to sit right here. You know what I'm saying? I was fortunate enough to make it to wear in my career. I was able to brand myself to have that voice. But it's a nigga out there that's probably just as good as rapping as me that stuck in the trenches. He don't got to go down and I still got to touch the trenches and be able to look him in his eyes
Starting point is 00:12:28 and be like, look, little bro, I went through that, man. I haven't been to jail. I didn't do all that, man. Do that. You know what I'm saying? Then sitting at the house like, man, you're stupid. You're going to die one day. It's like, who is you?
Starting point is 00:12:37 You ain't got nothing from me. You can't tell me. You know what I'm saying? So that's all it is. If people see you more active around it, like, and participating in a positive way, but I was just saying the negative stuff, your opinion would matter a whole lot more, I mean. Of course. A whole lot more.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yo, what's crazy, right? Is, like, if I, like, like, if I, like, like, do pull up, right? Yeah. Bro, I can almost, bro, I can almost guarantee there'll be dudes on, like, you to talk about, man, higher left flaco pull up to your set, man. What's wrong with you, niggas, man? You come for the right reasons And you come for the right reasons
Starting point is 00:13:12 I'm saying Then now they're in the wrong You know what I'm saying When they're coming over there To troll niggas and shit Then that's a problem You know what I'm saying If a Nick coming to
Starting point is 00:13:19 For the negative reason Like yeah look I came over there Got untouched told y'all Then yeah now's a problem For Nick came over there To really do something Do some work when it's time
Starting point is 00:13:27 Like the right shit Like we just seen a lot of niggas doing shit I just seen them doing shit At a Gonzales park And then Kyle Sannot These type of niggas These nike they're like street motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:13:35 They're giving back though They're helping out So motherfuckers ain't gonna say nothing to them from the red blue side, no side, you know what you see them? You feel me? The niggas, millionaires, you don't think niggas don't want to rob them,
Starting point is 00:13:44 if they wanted to, they come to doing something right. You know what I'm saying? Well, here, right? Like, I think it was like, it was like Kai or plug boy, Max and him who actually came, right? Like, later on. And that actually got a lot of backlash,
Starting point is 00:13:58 probably from folks who's not even from those communities, right? Of course. Right? And it was the clowns talking about, oh, you're making a mockery. Do you not? How you making the mockery? these streamers here and they're filming.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Kids, smiling. Film what you want. Them kids happy. They really took shoes home. They really took clothes on. They really ate food. That shit was real. You know what I'm saying? So it don't matter if you thinking it's a mockery, you ain't doing it. If I'm making a mockery, you do something different. You ain't giving back nothing to these kids. We're talking about the ghetto. We ain't talking about in some rich neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:14:24 We're talking about Compton. That's poverty. It's still on EBT, welfare and all that type of shit. Niggins people that need help. Everybody ain't rich. So, nigga can be, you know what I'm happy that they kid can get a free pair of out of somebody that's just giving back, he's giving away 200 pairs of shoes. You don't want your kid to be one of the 200.
Starting point is 00:14:40 If you're struggling to buy food and shit too, like, hell no, this is real. So whoever hating on it is just somebody that's not really involved in their community anyway because you want to see more and more people giving what they got. Like, we ain't stopping nobody that want to come help. You know what I mean? You just said the pee-pee-peep. That's why it was crazy around that time. Everybody getting it.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Ficking hell you, they're giving away this money. We're going to all get it. I'm going to tell him how to get it. He's going to tell him how to get it until we all can get it. We ain't hiding in sauce. We need this money. Yo, like, and I feel like those times, right, kind of represent too, like, a big lesson, right? And, you know, just like, just like, you know, and like just in the hood, right, in terms of financial literacy, right?
Starting point is 00:15:22 Because that era showed, yo, just giving niggas money, ain't going to do nothing. They don't do everything for us. Right? That ain't the answer. No. Because, bro, we know some dudes, bro, and who went up, like $500,000. They blew it. and now they down bad and broke, right?
Starting point is 00:15:36 You feel like? And back robbing, niggas, right? So, right? So, what do you feel like like it's the path forward then, right? So, like, if just reparations probably won't fix it, right? How do we fix those communities?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Man, honestly, bro, we all got a band together, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, for example, like, with me and my team, like, you know, we opened a studio called Chico Studios. And, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, you got to be stronger together. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Like, me and get you here together. It's powerful. Our community is rooting us on right now. You know what I'm saying? To see two individuals from our community doing something positive, you know what I'm saying? We're stronger together, you feel me? So we've got to just band together, man, you know what I'm saying? Kick all that separation, shit out the way, you feel me? And just come together.
Starting point is 00:16:20 All right. So whose responsibility, like, for example, right? I feel like right now, again, I'm speaking from a place of ignorance, right? So, right? So I can only say my opinion is I feel like the way to fix up, like the hood, right, would probably be to create and foster a safe and comfortable environment for these kids to come up and prosper, right? Like, like, for example, if the hood is serving as an obstacle, right, for these kids, then they're always going to, like, just raise kids who are in a position, right? But if the hood is serving as, like, a place for, like, these kids to prosper, right?
Starting point is 00:17:01 it's a safe environment, it's comfortable, right? They can come out and play different things, right? Then those kids will probably grow up to be productive, right? And then leave the hood, right? You feel what I? And go on to college and come back, you feel me, right? Right? Like, so like, right?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Like, so like, but though, the comfortable environment isn't there. Why? Because there's conflict. Because of the systematic shit that's already in place, you know what I'm saying? And then people fall victim to it. So you got to rise above it mentally. before it ever changes, you know what I'm saying? Because it's already systems in play.
Starting point is 00:17:35 You're taking the, we're just talking about people that's sitting sitting in prison 15, 16, 17 years. So then that's breaking the households. You're taking the black fathers out of the households already. So now the kids is being raised by their mothers. Their mothers got to still go to work to make the money. So now they're really raising themselves. So they're outside amongst each other.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Now they're coming and hanging together and becoming men and trying to teach each other. And they all 12, 11, 10, 13, 14, 14 years old, growing up trying to do this shit. And now how do we create a safe environment? And we all raising ourselves as youngsters trying to figure this shit out. So this shit starts way bigger and just, oh, man, hell yeah, man, let's start doing this. Like, no, this shit starts from the top, man.
Starting point is 00:18:11 You know what I mean? They put the drugs in the neighborhood. Like, so if you got the motherfuckers before that niggas, grandparents, this crackheads and people who was raised in them type of households, and it just keeps going down and going down. So it really just takes each individual in the kind of do the knowledge and do the reading on all these systems in place that's here to keep us in this rabbit hole, keep us in this matrix and try to help each one teach one break the cycles. You know what I'm saying? The cycles are being locked up going to jail and being shunning niggas who don't bang
Starting point is 00:18:38 and making it seem like it's not cool. Like it starts with the niggas that's around now to try to like shape the narrative. Like, nah, this is the route you got to go because we didn't have that. We didn't have a lot of people trying to shape the narratives when I was a kid. You know what I'm saying? It was just we had to learn on the go. You know what I'm saying? You have to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:18:53 If you ain't listening to your pops, you ain't listen to your uncles, you don't listen to the niggas in your household. Say they locked up. so they're gone, so they're not around, now you've got to listen to your partners, or you just listening to yourself, you know? So like I'll say, mom's going to work. A niggas getting raised by their grandma.
Starting point is 00:19:04 She's old, she can't really stop them from going outside hanging, you know? So it's a lot of shit that's in place that's already was here before our time that slowly but surely, you know what I'm saying, like getting, you know, getting turned over, you know what I'm saying? Yo, and do you feel like L.A. is getting better, right? Because I think, I think academics sort of like, you know, says something like a controversial, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Now, he was probably saying it in a way to sort of like downplay, like Brick Baby and others. But I kind of took it as a good thing, right? Because he was like, yo, like, these L.A. dudes is nice now, right? They just podcasting. They're not killing nobody, right? Now, I would say, listen, even if it was meant to be condescending, just, like, just painting, like, L.A. as a nice city now where there's no killing going on.
Starting point is 00:19:53 These niggas is nice now. I feel like that's a good thing, right? I mean, that's a dope thing to be looked at as far as like in the eyes of the law. Hell yeah. Like, sure. The law ain't like the goddamn thing. Niggas nice as ice, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:06 But when you just talk about like L.A. Compton-wise, all these cities as a whole, you can't use the few people that be online talking as a whole representation of what's going on in the streets because it's still going down in the streets. There's nothing changed. Like, we wish it changed. This motherfuck that's still getting killed out this motherfucker's daily.
Starting point is 00:20:22 It's my fuck that's still getting popped out of this motherfucker of daily. still niggas going in and out around this joint daily. So, you know what I'm saying? He's just misinformed. Like you say, he probably just taking shots at people that's online or whatnot. But, like, yeah, in the streets, there's everywhere, though. It's not just dangerous out here. I don't have been in every city, man.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I'm tapped in with niggas and everywhere I go. And it's gutter everywhere. This niggas getting rocked on everywhere. That's got to change all around the board. So, you know what I mean? He wasn't wrong at his other cities that's just as active. You know what I'm saying? Well, well, so, like, his point wasn't just as active, right?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Because he actually, so the whole thing was, so Brigh baby Ben, the young and age dudes from, right? And he and Brick Baby got some type of, like, conflict going on, right? Yeah. So here's one point was he's telling Brick Baby, you know, you can ban these dudes for dudes from coming to L.A. Because they're tougher than you all, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And, like, he named... But that's false, though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I can't speak for Brick and what he could do. But I'm talking more, like, as far as anybody can ban anybody if they want to.
Starting point is 00:21:15 You know what I'm saying? Like, I hear people saying you can't, but that's a lot. If it's some niggas that's out there in Atlanta and they want to tell some niggas from New York, California, they can't come to Atlanta. Yeah, you probably can't stop the whole city. But if we stop down in this city and we hear you out there,
Starting point is 00:21:30 we want to pull up, we can. You know what I mean? So that don't mean you ban. Like, you can't jump on the plane and go up, but that means when you jump down, you better know that we got some niggas that's on you. That's for you. And that's anywhere in the world.
Starting point is 00:21:40 If somebody wants to do that, they can do that. Like, nigga, okay, you come to L.A., yeah, you might have hang with these niggas, and they're going to fuck with you. But me and my niggas ain't fucking you. So we see you, and whoever you with, we own you. That's anywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:50 You know what I'm saying? So the band per se can't do it, but you can for sure have problems with niggas from anywhere. Should you do that now? Because what's the use of putting it online that you're doing that? Then something happened now is curtains, you know? So I think a lot of times that's what get misconstrued without here. We don't do no studio.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Like, we're not in the era. Like, we're still getting used to that. We're not in the era of putting shit on live and talking about what's going on and doing that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's not what we're trying to do because if we're serious, we're serious. If it's on the internet, it ain't serious for real. Of course. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Yeah. Like, it's not, it's not, it's not. It can be serious. Don't get it twisted. If it turns into that. But for the most part, it's like, man, come on, man. You see, you see, right? Listen, listen, like, and I agree with that, right?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, here, for example, right? Like, you have a podcast, right? Yeah. So if something is said on the podcast, like, so if some street shit is said on a podcast, I'm of the belief, because, again, I'm speaking from a place of ignorance. I'm of the belief, if you come on,
Starting point is 00:22:48 let's say, let's say, let's say, like, Team Money's podcast, right? And you speak on some street shit, you know, you dissing the, blah, blah, and then I cover you dissing the, right? I, listen, I don't consider that like no street shit, right? Because why?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Because it's on a podcast, it's from public consumption, right? Because, again, I don't know the killers. You feel me, right? I don't know the killers in LA. You know why? Because I don't see the killers, right? Exactly. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:15 I don't know the tough niggas, right? I don't see them, right? So I don't consider the street shit because You shouldn't have made it to your ears You know what I'm saying? So I get that. If I'm online, I'm talking about some ops or some shit like that Then you decide to cover it
Starting point is 00:23:32 I'm already in the wrong because I'm not supposed to spoke on it. You know what I'm saying? Because once it's out there in public, it's public information. Anybody got the chance to speak on it at that point, yeah. So anybody who get upset about that, then that's the problem for them because it's like if you put it out there and you do it. Now, of course, people go, a lot of times, I think it's when people will get the information wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:49 You know what I'm saying? That's what makes people upset. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you get the information wrong and then you got the option to reach out to these same people and get the right information, like you could tap in. Like, hey, man, look, I just heard you saying this and saying that. Look, I'm going to speak on it on my show. I'm going to let you know from talk about it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But, you know what I'm saying? Like, look, I can't stop you from saying this. But don't say this because there's lies. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I mean? Now if you choose to go against the nigger just for your click bait and do all that, then that's going to create a problem. But a lot of times these dudes be all in this entertainment.
Starting point is 00:24:19 and they can reach out to each other and they choose not to. And that's what caused is the problem. You know what I'm saying? Yo, what's your responsibility as a podcast host, right? Like, for example, if a dude comes on and he is, I'm talking about, like, he's on 10, like he's ready to tell it all, right? Are you obligated to protect him? Yeah, protect his image.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You know what I was saying? We had a guess, you know what I'm saying? I can be messing. I didn't even message, you know what I'm saying? He gave me a record. I'm going to say that. He gave me a record. You know, y'allel.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Oh, a Kingella? Nah, no, no. He's a clad, like a West Coast legend, you feel me? So, you know, and he came on the pod, and, you know, he feels in type of way, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, you know, we don't want... About what, just... Like how his position on the coast is, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:05 You feel me? And the majority of the interviews he do is kind of like Power 106. It's already, like, laced already. Like, you know, shit like that. But our shit, you know, the studio in the studio isn't business, you can really be yourself. and we're wronged on a couple of ask you how about this, how about that?
Starting point is 00:25:21 You know what I'm saying? You know, he had a little juice in this system you know what I'm saying. A few blunts and he started, you know, 95-94 death row you know what I'm saying? Oh. You know what I'm saying? So he was running that era of time
Starting point is 00:25:33 so like he'd get to talk. So, you know, but you know, we wanted him to like, you know, yeah, speak your truth, but don't be too raw with it, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? What? You see, listen, see, look, and that's where like we get in trouble, right?
Starting point is 00:25:45 Right? Right? Because I can almost like guarantee if I was on the opposite side of that, I'm saying, here from Dick some boat, man. Hey, right? Because if he wants to do it. Yeah, for me, I feel like, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:26:00 I understand what he's saying. So it's like, what he basically saying is like, yeah, it is your obligation to kind of, you know what I'm saying, deterred if you, if you see it going somewhere where it shouldn't go. But for me, that would be if a nigga's saying some incriminating shit, you know what I'm saying? Some shit that can get him locked up or some shit that's going to infuriate
Starting point is 00:26:15 motherfuckersers. feelings from a past thing that might have happened that niggas done already got over you know what I'm saying talking about beef synops and all that you try to stare away from them talks on our podcast but if a nigga want to talk about like some shit like you say if they got a beef with another podcast or something they want to argue
Starting point is 00:26:29 do all that I mean at the end of the day because you shouldn't say nothing you can't stand on anyway you know what I'm saying so a nigga ain't gonna stop you at that point because now you said it you should be able to back it up whenever I'm gonna question you about that you say like here for example right if you know like this bitch ass nigga came and he's talking
Starting point is 00:26:45 crazy about some niggas that like you know he's not ready for right? Do you say hey bro hold on now bro like I know you a whole ass nigga you're not ready
Starting point is 00:26:57 for the smoking Yeah Do you stop them? I would stop him You know what I'm saying If it was that case I mean I wouldn't let no nigga disrespect no niggas in front of me
Starting point is 00:27:05 that I f*** with You know what I'm saying Like I fuck with the other party anyways like y'all can hire that Nah do that on your own time But if there's some niggas I don't know Neither party And they just chopping their game
Starting point is 00:27:14 And I know for sure like the other party is more serious than this nigga that I'm interviewed. I probably wouldn't even, I would try to let him know, like, do you want this out? Especially if it ain't live or something. You can do it in the edit. Like, you want this out?
Starting point is 00:27:24 I mean, it could be bad if it's bad. Some niggas gonna want to stand on it, though. You know what I mean? Go ahead and they move. But I hear what you're saying. Like, it would be something that makes sense in that scenario to be like, man, nah, don't do that to yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:36 But you can't take it back once it's on that internet. If it's other niggas that ain't playing and you playing, that's going to be your ass. It's a habit. I have this post, man. Not, man, look, so Speaking of edits, right? So, I've always
Starting point is 00:27:49 know, see, see, right, like, and this is why, like, I stopped, like, I stopped, like, speaking on niggas, right? Yeah. Because I know the names, I know people for their profession, right? Like, for example,
Starting point is 00:28:02 I've known Gigi Gandhi for, like, 10 years now, right? Yeah. As, like, a battle rapper, a lyricist, a MC, right? And that's as far as I know Gigi for it, right? for so. As that.
Starting point is 00:28:15 So, I think it was like a few months ago or last year, right? Yes, sir. When I think it was a No Jumper podcast and they titled it weird, like if you're name in it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yes, so one, right? So when that happened,
Starting point is 00:28:31 now, I'm not sure exactly, like, what that situation was, right? But, I think you should say, hey, listen, man, like, y'all have 24 hours to edit this shit, or 40 hours, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now, listen, now I'm thinking, man, like, he's a better rapper, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like, what's your, like, what you're scared for? Right? And listen, and he gave him, like, 24 hours, brother, and within two hours, it got changed. And I ain't never seen no jump or change no titles. I'm talking about, bro. Oh, God. I'm talking about niggas.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Like, the top rappers done requested to get changed. But the thing was, it was done in disrespect, and I ain't never came with disrespect. So my time's of being around Adam, it always been respectful. You know what I'm saying? I haven't been up here two, three times I had interviews. He didn't came and did my podcast. So it's been a respect thing.
Starting point is 00:29:16 So from when I seen the title, I don't even know if I listened to it and they really even said no, but I think the title was like, such and such checks, Gichi Guy. I know for show. Nobody checked me.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Nobody said nothing to me. So I'm already, when people send it to me, like, hey, a nigga said he checked you. I'm instantly on some, like, in the streets is like, you said you check me. I got a hot latch, you know what I'm saying? Everybody involved.
Starting point is 00:29:35 It wasn't just Adam is whoever was involved in that shit. I tapped in on. I hit me up. You know what's all that? I'm saying. Like, what's all this? You know, so that was my stance on it. Like, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:29:45 I don't want to have to, because I'm going to have to at that point because you're playing with my name. You know what I'm saying? You put my name on the internet in a lie. Same thing I just said. You know what I'm saying? When you got the right to tap in and fix that, you dig what I'm saying? Because then if you don't, then I have to come and stand on business about my name. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:00 You know, now is past the respect. If I give you that opportunity to fix it and say I'm done with it, then that's easier than trying to stand on some shit that you know you're wrong. And then, like you said, my-h-a-might-a-my-law-not-you-old-old-a-old-old-a-old-old. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you feel what I mean? So at that point, that's really what it was. They did the right thing in my eyes because it's like, that wasn't no sucker shit.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. You was already doing some sucker shit by line saying you checked some niggas. That was, you know what I'm saying? So you're doing the right thing about fixing it. I don't know who they said check this so long ago. You did what I mean? It's on there. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:30 But, yeah, take that down, man. You know what I'm saying before you get to that problem. No, but like, and here's where, like, the kind of like the, love, for example, right? So when I walk in, like, they're talking about it. I'm like, bro, like, why you're like, like, why you're changing it? Right. And when I tell you, bro, like, the people who look me in, in my eyes, like, like, I can tell, you know, right, that it was like a difference. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Right. Like, it's, it's, bro, you better not, listen, like, bro, like, I was told. We're not doing no studio. We're not here to play. We don't play with this. Yeah. So it's the same respect. That's all it really boiled down to.
Starting point is 00:31:04 It don't make niggas no less or no man, no lesser no gangers. Because real gangers going to respect other real gangers. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's just going to, especially when you were in the wrong. If I did something wrong, if I stepped on your shoes and you was like, man, you didn't say, excuse me. You feel what I'm saying? Because I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I stepped on your foot. They don't mean that you punk me. You know what I'm saying? And if I walk out this door, though, and say I slapped you, and then, you know what I'm saying? Everybody see that I said, I said, you know I didn't. You know, you're supposed to get at me. Like, hey, you better tell, niggas, you didn't slap me, or it's a problem. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You know what I'm saying? Like, nigga ain't there, man. You know what I mean? So that's just all that was. It was like, bro, no, make no title saying some shit that you know ain't true. I don't even know what made y'all even do that in the first place. So that's really well. My mind was on some, I really got to come up there because now I need to see what's the thought
Starting point is 00:31:44 behind the niggas at this table that even thought that was funny. You know what I'm saying? You ain't never said a, nobody ever said a word to me about anything. And I had nothing to do with the situation. I think it was some shit going on with my homie compton, Rick Rock, you know, in the back and forth podcast and shit, you know, when, you know, a lot of them niggas go back and forth and do their little internet shit, you know what I think.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And they end up, you know, you know, a nigga just throw your name in it too. Like, yeah, man, and Gichi too. Like, some weird shit. I'm like, what, Gucci, what? That's all it was. It wasn't even that thing. Yeah, right, because, bro, listen, man, because, bro, like, like, I can see the worrisome when, like, I was being told,
Starting point is 00:32:17 you better not say this. Man, that's why they was tripping the day. I'm feeling like that's a day. I'm feeling like that's a day. Yeah. I can't come in this world I can't come in this world like a pissing going on.
Starting point is 00:32:27 That's terrible. I love it up here. I love it up here, man. Like, I ain't listen. One thing about us that we're not here to, like I told you the nigga outside.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Like, listen, we're not here to be sitting here at a tense and create no bullshit. Man, my boy came for an interview. You know what I'm saying? So once he said, hey, man,
Starting point is 00:32:46 they also want Geeks to come up there as well. It's my partner. I'm going to come up there as well, you know what I'm saying? But my goal is to, you know what I'm saying? Like, let me assess my homeboy who out here rapping
Starting point is 00:32:53 doing something positive and doing all this dope shit, man. And he's been doing it for a long time, and I'm proud of him. So I'm like, man, you know what hell? Yeah, I'm going to come up there. You know what I'm saying? Let me stand up there. I don't have been there a few times, but I know he really been working hard on his music. Like you said, he's been networking.
Starting point is 00:33:07 He got songs with a lot of dope rappers. We got songs together. You know what I'm saying? He's been pushing videos. He got his cameraman. He got songs with me. Now, wait, all right. Now, listen.
Starting point is 00:33:16 He's working. Right? Now, listen. Now, here's why I don't think that's a good idea, right? Now, there's very few niggas who I've seen hop on a record with you and made out the record looking good. You told me a rapper while. Yeah, right? Right?
Starting point is 00:33:34 So now you, again, like you are like you are like you like you are like you are a dope artist. Meaning bro like you know like it's some flash, some cool shit right? Like from me, right? It's a crazy vibe when you're hopping on a record. But hopping on a record with this man is like like it's a different type of beast or an, or an, or. unless, like, you on some singing to melodic shape, you feel and just take yourself just, like, out the battle of trying to, like, compete in, you know, for an emcee.
Starting point is 00:34:01 The record we did recently is called Out the Mud's not out yet. Okay. And it's about Out the Mud. I've seen him get out the mud. For me, he come home from college, my brother, the Money, the Great. Me and my boy, LaVealdante got the camera, we're burning Mafia Bank Boy CDs. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:15 All at our house on Ramon Street, you feel me? Facts. Burning CDs, you know what I'm saying? You know what I saw him get out the mud. You know, after a little transition, you dig it, I'm saying. So that was the perfect record for us to do is out the mud. Because you know what I'm getting my shit out of mud as well. You're rapping, rapping, though?
Starting point is 00:34:31 For sure. Really? For real. Hey, hey, listen. Yeah. Listen, look, I at least have to respect the nigger who can, like, say, hey, listen, listen, I'm taking a fade way of the draw. You know what I'm right?
Starting point is 00:34:45 For me, right? So I at least respect you for taking a fade and actually rap, right? Because, look, I know. A lot of my fuck getting that booth and freeze up, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, sure. No, oh, the bitch-house niggas is like, hey, listen, bro. I don't want to get on that side.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I'm not dropping this. He's only, yeah, yeah. He doesn't kill me off. I ain't dropping it. One thing I'll say about him is a lot of other young dudes out of my area that's rapping and doing their thing. They aren't, start in iron. So sometimes being in the studio with somebody that might be a little more experienced than you,
Starting point is 00:35:11 that might be doing this a little longer. I think, you know what I'm saying? I've been doing this for a long time too, rapping. So when they're in there with me, they're able to pick up game and pick up things. you know what I'm saying and learn and get better in their career that's really all it is it's just like when I was coming up
Starting point is 00:35:22 and we had older homies in my hood the young hogs that rap you know what I'm saying I could watch them like damn these dudes is dope you know what I'm saying like whether they made it mainstream or not they was always fired to me I could see them in the homie house
Starting point is 00:35:33 writing their raps and coming up with their bars and doing freestyles and coming back they were signed to Matt 10 back by the younger age my thought about that you know what I'm saying so you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:35:41 it was just one of those things like to see that and watch that now they're able to do that you know what I mean with myself you know so iron sharp and I feel like these dudes, you know what I mean, he's one of the dudes that's on the West Coast that slept on as far as like the content. He always dropping content.
Starting point is 00:35:55 He always dropping music. You know what I'm saying? And I'm glad that he was able to get up here, though, and talk about it, though. For real, for real, you know what I'm saying? Are you teaching him though, like, right? Like, for example, right? With you, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I recognize, too, right? When you piece up syllables in, like, an actual, like, like, an actual battle, is a, it's like a different scheme that you will. Right? Mm-hmm. So, hey, if you, like, taught him the game of piecing up, like, these syllables and how to actually, like, go about in the, right?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah, nah. Anytime I'm in there, hell, yeah, if they're in there working and I'm working, and they're right, I'm able to, hey, man, hell yeah, that sound better like this. You know what I'm saying? That sound better like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:33 You know what I mean? So, like, but these niggas right their own shit, you know, they come with their own, you know what I mean, that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But definitely, if there's some advice on the line, like, on some, do this sound fire,
Starting point is 00:36:44 shit, I say this this way. And likewise, if I'm in there, though, I'm in there with his niggas in there that might be like, yo, Goddy, switch that up, man, say it slower right here, you know what I'm saying? Wham, you feel me, and shit like that? Like, I think that's what we're supposed to do in the studio, you know what I'm saying, to make sure we're putting out the best, you know what I'm saying? It's easier to do a battle than make a hit record, you feel what I'm saying? Like, now battle rapping is probably more intricate as far as coming up with this shit
Starting point is 00:37:07 and trying to command the crowd with no music and get them to listen to you, two, three thousand people to understand everything you're saying. Yeah. But as far as to make a hit record. record that's going to have everybody in unison, bobbing their head and feeling like they know the words. Like that shit, it's not easy. A lot of niggas can make songs, but to make a hit. It's only a few
Starting point is 00:37:22 motherfuck of hits. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of fire songs that you might listen to for a month and it's hot. Next year you don't hear. Niggas, it's a few songs that's like you listen and that shit. It's still bang, you know, so it takes a lot of work to make a hit record and that shit, you know what I'm saying? Yo, why do you feel like it's hard
Starting point is 00:37:38 or, again, I can't really name, like, well, like, outside of like Eminem probably, right? like a battle rapper that have like fully like transition into like a all world world yeah you feel me like rap superstars. Cassidy had his time when he was, you know what I'm saying? But I know what you're saying is like the biggest rapper. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:37:58 At the time. Well, Cassie too. Cassidy, that's okay, he had his time here. What about Meek though? Meek Mills was bad. Yeah, but that's some like street shit. I'm talking about, for example, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Like Meek Mill like in the streets of Philly. like just balance band bars that's a different art than doing what gets you got to do which is like I feel like it's now though a lot of battle rappers is making better music they used to have a stigma that battle rappers couldn't make the music so I think it made it tough for a lot of the ballers
Starting point is 00:38:28 who was trying to transition though they would be like writing songs and ghost writing for artists they wouldn't get them on the forefront to be the dudes but I think now like you got dudes like Sue Sir Freed Away who like dope music and got collab records with niggas like Mazzie and shit like that that kind of like
Starting point is 00:38:44 made the headlines and shit. You know what I'm saying? You seeing dudes out here like loaded lucks and them doing more and more freestyles on them hot 97s and ripping it with the biggest rappers. You know what I'm saying? It's like that arson on these dudes. You know what I'm saying? Myself that's really putting on.
Starting point is 00:38:57 So I think now it's starting to curve a little bit to where you're starting to see more battle rappers get recognition for their music. It's just you've got to be able to separate the two. And it's tough in any industry to separate the two. Alan Ivers, he was one of the best football players but play basketball. So people didn't want to see them in the football jersey. Oh, yeah, he was nice. You didn't know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'm not the quarterback. Yeah, cold. But once he started playing basketball, you got people that's like, man, just stick here. You feel what's the same with battle rap? People start making music, but you got core fans that's like, nah, don't leave us. Like, keep getting on this stage and rap, you know what I'm saying? Hey, listen, though, quite as kept, though, right, because, like, you know, the battle rappers, and I'll be real, like, they make more money than majority of rapper.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Listen, yeah. For sure. If you're not the top of the top rapper, nigga, where can you go to, get, like, 50, grand for like what a 40-minute performance for sure straight up and that's what I'm saying so I think y'all was a conversation they had on was a say cheese one time a lot of battle rappers and all yeah yeah yeah yeah like for you the big rappers and you're doing you making money for show it's probably y'all making more because y'all can do 10 shows in a week or some shit like that and get get that but just the average
Starting point is 00:40:03 nigga that's out here making some streams on shit he ain't making no money like the top battle rappers niggins 50,000 I'm talking about you talking 40 minutes hell no nigger round be three minutes east so I don't wrap 10 minutes and grab 50 minutes and grab 50 You know what I'm saying? Grab a $6. $250. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:18 Come on. The niggas doing that two, two times a month. You know what I mean? Once a month and then another one, another one. And even when the bags is shorter, you're talking about still $10,000 for nine minutes of rapping. And the Arnold got splited with the label and the manager.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's going to nobody who's going straight to you. And I'm talking. So people used to get that misconstrued like did you like, did you have to win the battle to get paid? No, at this level is the same with anybody. It's a contract. You sign it. Get your money up front. You do the performance.
Starting point is 00:40:43 You get your money on the back. in, you get flew out, you get to travel, to stay, the hotel, everything gets all paid for. It's already, it's a business. Yeah, of course. You know what I'm saying? So, like, yeah, it's a lot of rappers that's battle rappers that don't want to make music because they're making
Starting point is 00:40:54 a living being battle rappers now. You know what I'm saying? Back then, the goal was to battle to become an artist because you couldn't make money battling. You know what I'm saying? That was why it was like that. Now, niggas can make money balance so you don't see a lot of battleers
Starting point is 00:41:05 trying to be artists, but the ones who are trying, I feel like they're starting to get the looks. That's why I named a few niggies that I named, the ones who are really like actively putting out projects and trying to work, you know what I'm saying? Like a battle rapper like my guy Beat out, he put out a lot of dope projects and he just walked away from battle rapping.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Kind of just stuck with doing music, you know what I'm saying? In the real. Yo, like, for me it's like, yo, I'm tired of us given, like, the rappers, right? Like the critically acclaimed, oh, this nigga is an emcee,
Starting point is 00:41:35 this nigga is an elite MC without them hopping in that ring and proven they are, right? Because, again, because we've seen, like the rappers who make like this record for example like again like again I love this guy
Starting point is 00:41:47 so Joe don't hit me like Joe Button right yeah so about Joe like Joe Budden I regard him as a top 20 MC of all time right for sure so when I see like Joe Budden
Starting point is 00:42:01 like battle goods right hollow yeah yeah right so when I see so the average rap fan will say man bro Joe by the slaughter this little nigga man
Starting point is 00:42:10 man. And then we've seen Joe hopping in a ring and he wasn't all the way there. And he conceded round two. Right? He said, okay, I'm done it. Right?
Starting point is 00:42:20 So, right? So, like, do you feel like, like, for example, man, it's kind of like the world champion debate, right? Where I think it's like Noah Liles, right? With a said, yo, stop calling these NBA championships, four championships like world championships.
Starting point is 00:42:35 They're not battling, right, the entire world. So do you feel like it's time for us But stop saying, yo, these niggas are elite emcees if they're not hopping in the ring and actually proven they, for me, elite emcees. Yeah, hell yeah. I mean, I feel like a lot of that has to do, you know, you got to do that too.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You know what I'm saying? Like I say, man, you know, because a lot of these dudes is super dope. You got dudes like Rum Nitty who can put punches together better than, you know what I'm saying? Fucking fabulous, you know what I'm saying? One of the best punch line rappers in the world, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:02 And conceded on Wild and outs. You know, we've seen him like transcend and turn that into that. You got dudes like Charlie Clips who can freestyle up the top of their head and just say anything crazy up there just without pinning the pad daylight. We just seen him on the record with Jay Cole and Afto and
Starting point is 00:43:18 gas up, you know what I'm being? What the best verses on that P.I. records, you know what I'm saying? So, like, the battle writers show that they can keep up with a lot of the artists. So it would be dope to see a lot of artists sometimes getting the ring. Like, when you got these disc records, battle rappers, I see a lot of times try to have those mystery or surprise, like,
Starting point is 00:43:33 oh, what if, what if, what if, you know what I'm saying? So I think if they eventually did it, it'd be dope. But we do respect you when you step into the ring. So even though people probably thought Joe Bunn lost, he gained respect because he tried it. He got out there. No, he still got the respect. It's like King Lowe's got out there and battled some niggas, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:48 His dicks who done did it. Remy Ma got a battle league, you know what I'm saying? She came from battling, you know? So when you see the artist that came from it that try to come back into it, you get him. It's like you said. If a nigga catch a fay, win or lose, still got me his respect, you know what I'm saying? Hey, right, right. So look, if Joe, now again, Joe, bro, look, you know, hair, right?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Because me and Joe, like, I have, like, weird a listen said, right? Yeah. Like one month he hates me And when I say my name The next month he loves him, right? So, Joe, I'm not the-Joe, you are a top 20 MCF all the time That's a fact, no, Joe got bored. But, but
Starting point is 00:44:18 Joe started off the battle and conceded and waved the white flag like round two. So. But hollow one of the best in the world. But you can't quit, my nigga. that event was good. It was other battlers versus other battlers.
Starting point is 00:44:40 So sometimes when you commercialize it up a little bit how they did it lose that it lose that edge a little bit. I mean I'm not making no excuse for him. I'll go out that
Starting point is 00:44:47 but like definitely the way that we would do it if he did it on U.R.S. Smack or one of these platforms like that it'd probably be way different too though. At least the way it come out. You know what I'm sorry?
Starting point is 00:44:57 No, I feel like the Joe Button battle kind of proved that bars ain't enough right? Yeah. Because yo Joe, listen if you listen up, oh he was like
Starting point is 00:45:07 I'm, like, piece in that. I'm talking about, like, double, triple-class. But he was rapping it like a monologue or something. Yeah. It's so flowing. And then the crowd work, too, plays a big factor. Right? Listen, like, the crowdwork is an underrated factor because, you're like.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And then holding the microphone with that, all that. Yeah. And say, shut up. Yeah. Stop or else I'm done. Yeah, yeah. He was tripping. That's one thing about better.
Starting point is 00:45:33 That's one thing about better. You can't go at the crowd. The crowd's going to fight back. They're going to start talking shit. Oh, no. They're part of the show. Right. Now, here, look, though, but there's one guy, man, where we recognize he's a great rapper.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Yeah. Right. Now, listen, I'm sick and tired of seeing him do freestyle because, bro, we have. We know. You got it. Nigger, you are a top. Cool. But I don't think that I want to call him a top.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And see him see him more until he hops in a battle rig with a nigga like, Gigi Gotti. Who are you talking? It's Simba. Oh, Simba. I'm going to be around by, I'm going to be cold, nigga, yeah,
Starting point is 00:46:10 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Cove. Right, yeah, but,
Starting point is 00:46:14 but at some point, bro, you, you, you, like, you, you gotta take the
Starting point is 00:46:20 fair faith. Simba somebody, I feel like could make the transition, though. Hell, you know what I feel like
Starting point is 00:46:26 he could do it. Like, you know what I'm saying at the right, battle the right circumstance, you know what I'm saying, like,
Starting point is 00:46:31 he can do it. He can do it. He can do it. He can do it. He can do it. So, yeah, if he wanted to get the ring with me, definitely get the ring with me. But he don't give California a varsity high. She's got bars.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He's like a bird's like a West Coast fave, okay. Simba cold. Nah, yeah. Simba is way colder. Simba cold, man. The fab. Like, Fab is like a, yeah. Like, fab like a flying nigger.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You know what I'm right? Coldier than fab, though. Yeah, yeah. That's a tough. Oh, no. You're going to have us. Now, listen. I ain't saying.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I got to go back to New York. It's a lot. You're right? Yeah. Yeah. Now look. Now look, Fab makes better songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Right? But Fab, a rapper too, though. Yeah. Like, Fab, a rapper, like, like, like, like, his, like, you, like, I think, like, he underappreciated as far as, like, because, you know what I'm saying? Like, people, like, put him in that box and, like, just punches and punches. But, like, the way he flow, his ends and now, so the schemes and shit that he's
Starting point is 00:47:24 that he jumping in the pockets, them different pockets, all of that shit, come with dope MC and, like, you know what I'm saying? So I think a lot of times, that's what people forget about when you think about these rappers. Like you see, it's more than just the bars. You know what I'm saying? It's the swag on the record. It's the way you know you could be able to do a song like, uh, uh, what's that, a hollack, hollaback, young and woo,
Starting point is 00:47:42 but then you could do some superwoman shit. Man. That's what I can't see. Some of them can't make gangster record. They can't make nothing for the bitches. They can't make nothing for the clubs. So that's a talent in itself too. Like, so like, salute to both of them, niggas.
Starting point is 00:47:53 They both fired. But, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Favner. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't put too many nigs.
Starting point is 00:48:02 it's unfair that you go to radio stations and you destroy them mics, bro, right? Right? Right, because again, bro, again, like, when we compare you to like the other niggas who go on the same platforms, bro, it's unfair.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I'm saying it's time for Simba to like catch a fair faith. Come jump out of that red here. Right? Gigi got it. He got jumping in the ring with me for the show for show, you know what I'm saying? Hey, y'all. Hey, y'all watching, man. Smack set it up.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah, man, set it up. And I got my own league to rock. Yeah, yeah, we do it right. Oh, yo, I see like you just, you just better, I think J-So, right? Lozo. Yeah, yeah, Loso. Now, I'll be real, bro. When did Loso start talking about like shooting niggas? Yo, I was confused.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Hey, shout out Loso, man, listen, man, you know, you want to, you know, one thing about battle rap I'll say this, you know what I'm saying? Because I know he is like a Christian battle rapper, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I was confused. I was confused. I was a lot of times they didn't have that in their content. But one thing about a battle rap, what I will say is, you know what I will say is, you. You know what I'm saying? It's pure entertainment.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So I always try to let people know that. Like, you know, you're going to get dudes who're going to rap about things that they might not necessarily be doing. Yeah, don't take it too serious. It's pure entertainment. Like, we ain't taking it as serious as people think. I used to have to deal with that one. I always be like, damn, man, how you can let this nigga say,
Starting point is 00:49:16 bitch, man, and do this man. We want to f*** these niggas up and why you don't sock. And he's like, bro, this nigga says, we're getting paid, man. Let the nigger say what he wants to say. You can drop a bomb on the nigger moms right now. Ain't nothing I can do. Like, we're making bars. So I think, you know, once you take the person literally out of it and just enjoy the arts,
Starting point is 00:49:32 you can enjoy certain artists more than me. I'm a big on believability rapper myself. So don't get it wrong. I like it if I can really believe it and I know you really done it. But, you know what I'm saying? At the same time, I'm still able to take away the art from the artistry, you know what I'm saying? And respect niggas for what they do, you know what I'm saying? Is that fair though, bro, like the battle, Losa?
Starting point is 00:49:48 Loso, one of the best, too, man. He just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he's one of the best, man. You know, I'm just like a nigga that's been doing this all. Even when I'm on 80, 70%, I can still make it look like I'm on a thousand. You know what I'm saying? I also know that I've been doing this for a long time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:04 I've been at the top of my game with this shit. You know what I mean? He tried, though. But I got to give him his credit. He had two battles in two days. He battled tarot today before me. Oh, wow. Damn.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Back to back? So that's already tough. Tayrock and you? Yeah, exactly. So I can't do you like that. And I was with him when he battled Tayrock because it was in Atlanta. It was in Atlanta. Yeah, it was in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Yeah, it was on Atlanta. It's on YouTube, too. We was in Atlanta, politics as usual, a car by my guy John John and my dude, Mondial Robinson put on, but he battled that day then flew to Florida
Starting point is 00:50:33 and we battled, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna be real though, bro. Damn. Tay Rock and Gigi got he back-to-back fade. That's tough. You know, listen, yo. You know, listen, you're like, anybody.
Starting point is 00:50:45 It feels like he was like the pass-around thing. Yeah, yeah. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me, me. That's tough. Hey, no, hey, listen to you. Listen, but at least he held his own.
Starting point is 00:50:57 He didn't come off as scared or, you feel me? Let me ask you a question, though, about, like, how you feel about West Coast rap, like the music scene right now? We just seen, Kada with the pop out, he brought a lot of new energy, you know what I'm saying, with letting a lot of dudes perform set out to that.
Starting point is 00:51:13 The video shoot had a lot of motherfuckers out there, but do you feel like it's been like a resurgence since staying on the West Coast? I'll be real, though. Listen, so I'm somebody who went viral for saying that, that that the L.A. rap is dead, right? Yeah, I remember you said that. Right. Now,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I said L.A. rap specifically because I'm somebody and who have always said, bro, that Wiley Descensee is my favorite rapper of all times. That's my name after high school with him. Right? Right? So, I've acknowledged that, right? But I'm going to say this, though.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I said, I think I said when, like, blue lips drop. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That, to me, was the beginning of the resurgence, right? Yeah, that was a fire. And I'll be real. Right now, it feels like it's coming back, but it's not fully. And here's what I mean, right? So, so, so, hey, right.
Starting point is 00:52:07 So, Kaylin dropped, I think Kaylin dropped it a two months ago, right? Yeah. Right? So, yes, like, that's needed. Now, I'll be real. Grito been on a crazy, like, feature run. Man, shout to Grin. Yo, Grito, you, listen, yo, yo, he been, yo.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah, he's been everywhere. Yo, listen, and like I feel like he took the LHA personally. Yeah. Because after that, my nigga, he was hopping on shit. God, damn. Hoping on shit. For sure. I said, yo, right?
Starting point is 00:52:37 So Grinibu is going crazy, but I feel like before it can be fully back, we need the Grito album. For sure. Right? For sure. Because, like, for example, right, like, Blue Lips gave us, you know. For sure. You know, like the educational shit, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah, right? Like, Kailen shit was like the vibes, right? Yeah. Now, listen, now, like... We need that project music. Yeah, right. We need that right. We need some of that.
Starting point is 00:53:06 We need some of that gangsta project. Some of that, some of that. You know that. What is it? I don't know what he, he had a genre that he named his own music. But like, yeah, we're missing that, though. Man, he got a rap on it, though, right? You got a rap, man.
Starting point is 00:53:17 You got to rap, man. Give us them, them sweet ladies and all that, too. Oh, yeah, that's all that. Classics. We need that. We need them. We need them. You don't run for your love.
Starting point is 00:53:24 and all that. You know what I'm saying? We listen. No, listen. No, listen. Yes, right. No, yes. But Grito to me, right,
Starting point is 00:53:32 should drop like two albums, right? Yeah. Because I feel like these niggas for God. That he can rap. That Grito is a lyricist. Like, dude like, yo, bro,
Starting point is 00:53:41 like these bitch ass niggas niggas for God. Yeah, like, that you can write, Brito. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? You got to get back in that booth.
Starting point is 00:53:47 And we get back on there just getting that back. But it's a lot of niggas. Joe Moses dropping. Or J. just dropped. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas is back dropping
Starting point is 00:53:55 Like you're starting to see it again My nigga Teezy You've been dropping videos Doing shit every day You know what I'm saying Like I see my nigga The bully back in this bag You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:54:03 I got an album dropping 88 Oh, oh my word Alumagadi, you know what I'm saying Alumagadi man is dropping 88 I got Beano on that muff Oh wow Surf on that motherfucker We got a PC on there
Starting point is 00:54:13 You dig what I'm saying RJ on that muck You know what I mean Peasy You know what I'm saying on there My nigga Peezy Like we got a lot of On there my nigga Papa Chops
Starting point is 00:54:22 So we work And I feel like the way West, you take times to start seeing other motherfuck too, though. Like, a lot of times they talk about the same artists over and over and over. You know what I'm saying? But there's other niggas who work in.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Like, I just named the whole genre different rappers all in one circle. A lot of niggas are trying to, like, avoid them, niggas, like, they'll avoid his music, you know what I'm saying? Like, niggas that avoid the fact, I got an album dropping. Niggas will avoid the fact, teasing, dropping dope records back to back to back, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:46 Nigger, avoid the fact. We bringing some of your favorite rappers to the city and turning them up and going crazy and dropping videos, you know what I'm saying? But you have to support. more than just these two, three, four artists. You got a toning to the whole west. It's a gang of motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:54:59 You know, we got Asia out of, uh, out of the, and she's fire, you know what I'm saying? No, she's hard. Yeah. Fire is a mother, man, doing her thing, you know what I'm saying? Putting on for the city, you know what I'm saying? Like you say, man, from Compton to Wads to Long Beach, L. That's a lot of rappers, I'm being singers. Is it from Compton?
Starting point is 00:55:17 She from Compton. You know, for some reason, oh, because I probably seen, like, the T. raw interview, I just assumed she was from She's from Compton. From Compton, man, across the street, you know what I'm saying? Love, man, for real. That's crazy. You see, we're also too, right? So, so, yes, and not like us shit
Starting point is 00:55:34 was a big look. For sure. Now, after that, though, I feel like to fully like, to fully like, say, yo, the West Coast is back, like, we need someone else outside of Kendrick to drop that smash right now. Now, I feel like the smash is coming, and look, and here's where I feel like the smash.
Starting point is 00:55:52 is coming from. So Wiley the Sense and Grito got the O3 Flo remix. Oh my God. That's going to be hard. That's coming soon. Right? So I feel like
Starting point is 00:56:03 if that drops and the coach do what we're supposed to do with it, that could be the one to say, okay, there's not like us and we got to. Come on. For me? Now we're set.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Now we're set. For me? But if nobody comes behind Kendrick and drops, Drop the smash? Yeah, you got dropped some smashes. This kind of like, then like we sort of like let the moment go. We got the smash out right now.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Obvious. All on YouTube right now. You type in, Gichi, you got the obvious. That's a smash of the streets. We out there. They playing this bitch everywhere outside of California all over the world. It's just like you say, man, you got to tap in. They got to tap in and tune in to what we got going on and really rock with it too, though.
Starting point is 00:56:45 You know what I'm saying? Like you got to get rid of your political affiliations. A lot of time that's what hold us back on the West Coast, you know? We got all these different, you know, sections and different things where I see a nigger, but I don't really want to like like it because, you know what I'm saying? I don't want my homies to know that I fucking music. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to get deep peace.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Some niggas can't listen to your meal. They might get beat up in their hood or something, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that, you feel me? So we don't got them type of problems over there where I'm at, you know, so we support any and everybody, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So I feel like that's where other regions are ahead of us at because they don't mind supporting each other all the way.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So that's why what Kendrick did was dope is he did bring few people together you know what I'm saying for that day and time they just got to keep it together like y'all should be still reaching out to each other and just doing shows without K-N-A-N-A-ha-ha-hae. Now though, if that way, now you may be a type of bias hair, right?
Starting point is 00:57:37 So let me add you real quick, right? Yeah. So Grito said, hey, listen, man, like now Grito did clarify and say, yo, I fuck with Kendrick, so this is right? But he said, listen, I know the magnitude of what that is. I know the eyes that's being put upon it, right?
Starting point is 00:57:55 So if I'm not, let's say, being asked to perform, but I'm just being asked to come on stage and participate in the pack out of Drake, well, that's essentially saying, all right, cool, I'm down, I'm West Coast, let's do it. But if I participate in the pack out of Drake and I don't even get to perform in front of 20 million people, are you going to give me a feature?
Starting point is 00:58:14 because we know Drake is watching you niggas. You know, you feel me? So do you, so you T-Money, right? Yeah. Do you feel like that the artists who went up on that stage, who didn't get to perform in front of 20 million people, do you feel like that's not the smartest decision? Like, if you plan on having a rap career outside of shit, right?
Starting point is 00:58:43 Because, again, we see, no, bro, we see it, right, that Drake gave, so, like, so here, right? So, like, I think it was, like, 22, right? Where, like, he gave, like, Drake a record, right? Right. Yeah, man, I know the truth. Right? So, we see Drake is tapped in enough to where he's given,
Starting point is 00:59:00 but Drake on the roller a record. For sure. So, if you have aspirations outside this shit, and if a Kendry Lamar feature or fucking what you ain't promised, do you feel like going on that stage was wise? I ain't a lot to you, man With me personally, I keep my nose clean Period, you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:59:19 You feel me off But all shit, bro, you know what I'm saying? No packouts, man, you're not doing it None of that shit You know what I'm saying, you feel me That's between them two and the individuals Yeah We from Compton, I fuck with Kendrick
Starting point is 00:59:29 And his homies from the section, all that But at the day They both put out good, great records Yeah You dig it, I'm saying, you feel me So I'm not choosing Not like goods They both good records
Starting point is 00:59:40 So you dig it what I'm saying Would you have up on that stage? I was invited to the, I was invited, you know what I'm saying? But I'm like, man, I'm just going to watch it with my homies. You dig it, I'm saying? You feel me? So, you know what I'm saying? So I like it.
Starting point is 00:59:51 It's competitive, you know what I'm saying, with music, you know what I'm saying? With music, you know what I'm saying? How hip-hop should be, you know what I'm saying? All right. And now Gichi, man. I mean, like for myself, I would say this. If I'm another artist, that's up there, and they felt it was beneficial for them, and you got to do what you got to do.
Starting point is 01:00:08 You know what you got to do because it's your career. You probably wasn't going to get a record. with Drake or record with Kendrick anyway. So I need a show opportunity to go up there, do what you do. Nah, man. Do you do? If you plan on having, like, it was a dumb show. Yeah, but I'm saying
Starting point is 01:00:22 if I'm just a nigga that's just like, look, I mean, it's my opportunity to get some kind of shine. I ain't got caught up nowhere. I'm performing at the form in front of all these people. I'm being on I'm showcased on what, Prime, Amazon, all this type of shit. Oh, 29 people watching. People that's watching me. This is my opportunity
Starting point is 01:00:36 to showcase my music. I got to take this opportunity. I'm going to look at it like Drake or real enough nigga. I understand. I got to get mine. Of course. what I got to do. Kendrick. I really love a nigga for giving me to Sean. You know what I'm saying? I would probably have a more better personal relationship with Drake. You know what I'm saying? Than I do with Kendrick. You know what I'm saying? But him being
Starting point is 01:00:52 from the city, I still wanted to see it when and support. Like, they beef is they beef. That's musical beef. They got their thing going on. You know what I'm saying? But as far as like a personal relationship, y'all didn't broke bread with Drake throughout the battle career, different things like that. So it's nothing but love and respect for him. But me thinking outside the box taking me out of it, if I'm one of them artists that was up there, they didn't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:01:11 they're supposed to, who can't pass up that opportunity. You were one of the ones who was asked to perform but you were asked to come on stage and shit. That's the end when they said. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:27 At the end of the day, I'm not going to just be bobbing around on stage. It's a crash out digger right there. Yeah, I'm not, me personally, I'm not just bobbing around on stage without having to be asked to perform anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I would have probably still
Starting point is 01:01:37 just been there in support of just the movement and seeing how that shit was, you know what I'm saying? I think everybody who was on stage down there performed. A few niggas probably didn't, you know what I'm saying? But the majority of the motherfuckers up there was performing. You had the clown dancers and all the rappers. So that's why they was doing it. And they all damn near from the same area.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So they, you know what I mean? Respect what Kendrick got going. So they might have a better relationship with him. So some of them probably don't even give a fuck about a Drake feature if they're more close with Kendrick in that situation. So you know, like if you a nigga that's more neutral, you know what I'm saying, and things like that. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Then that's a different story. But some of them might got more ties to just cade out anyway. So it didn't really hurt. You see, yo, listen, so I asked Compton Rick Rock a specific question, right? And he gave his answer, but I'm like, ask you first before telling you like what he said, okay? Yeah, yeah. So if Drake said, hey, Gitchie, I'm pulling up to the block, you feel me, too fuck with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Right? You know, let's film a vlog or some shit. Pull out. Right? What's up? Can Drake come to Compton and film a vlog and fuck with you? Yeah, for sure. Damn.
Starting point is 01:02:41 For sure. Damn. I thought like he was banned. No, he could pull up to the hood. Hell no. We ain't banning him, you know what I'm saying? Like I just told Jordan, it could be some niggas who probably feel that way.
Starting point is 01:02:53 There's going to be some niggas who don't. He's got to deal with whatever. You know what I'm saying? You can't banning from the whole thing. But you can make whatever threat you on. But now, like I got to say, I facks with the homie. You know what I'm saying? He shot at my hood out on stage in front of thousands of motherfuck
Starting point is 01:03:05 broke bread out at the battle. You know what I battle loaded luck. True, true. Gici got he owe up. No, he blocked. You dig what I'm saying? He shot it that out, man. Broke bread with me and Nitty, we spent $150,000.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And Lugs Battle gave us another $100. You know what I'm saying? It was still coming in. The money was still coming in. So he broke bread with us, really, really sat down. They got chopped it with him. You know what I mean? I didn't got his number.
Starting point is 01:03:24 All kind of regular ass, normal shit. You know what I mean? So it'd be shit that don't be nothing to be broadcasted and, you know what I'm saying? They talked about. I ain't like, we're the best of friends, but we're cool. You feel what I'm saying? I got relationships with other rappers. So for me, like, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:37 That's like any home. That's like Peasy hit me. This nigga hit me anybody. Can I come to Hes you to the blog, nigga? And I fuck with you. Come on, nigga, pull up. You know what I'm saying? Now, okay.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And do you feel like other people will accept that as that? Meaning, yo, like, that's just, you know, you know, you know, like, they ain't mean it with no disrespect. You feel like he's just fucking with Drake because this is homie. So do you feel like other people will have that much understanding to where they will understand it as that and not see it as disrespect? I mean, yeah, you're going to have to. You ain't going to have any no choice. Like, you either going to have understanding or you're just going to be confused and lost in your own world.
Starting point is 01:04:13 You know what I'm saying? Because the understanding ain't for you. It's not your time. You know what I mean? It's not, it had nothing to do with you. If you're from somewhere outside, it's like us not having an understanding for something that a nigga do in their neighborhoods. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:04:24 You feel me? Like, I can't control with the motherfuck doing their hood. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, they're going to have to just understand it if that's what it was. You feel me? Yeah, if it came to that and he wanted to shoot a music video on that motherfucker. And then come on shoot the video. y'all niggins stood
Starting point is 01:04:34 I'm saying Facts, man. Man, look, man, right? So look, so we've seen though, man, like, like, how Drake is, like, so tapped in, right? Like, I think, like, in, like,
Starting point is 01:04:43 in, like, 21, like, and he tweeted, I'm the light-skinned Lush one, right? Yeah. So, like, he's really deep into, like, the battle rap scene, right? Now, there was a point in time, you know, where he was pop and, like, he was supposed to battle, like, murder Mook.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. I'm ready right now, I'm ready right now. Yeah, dude, bro. I don't lie. Bro, Booke was thirsty. Nigger was ready right now.
Starting point is 01:05:07 He was right there. Bring the money, y'all. Let's do it. Now, okay, so what, now, I think we know the answer, but why do you feel like Drake hasn't, like, battled, like one of y'all yet? I feel like, you know, like you say,
Starting point is 01:05:23 it's just that. It's like, you know, these niggas be busy, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of times you got to really, like, a nigga that ain't battling on a consistent pace. They're going to need to, like, set down a lot of shit they got going on to really, pin that shit together. Remember that shit, get ready for what you're going to come up with? And they got
Starting point is 01:05:37 a lot more to lose, too. Because battle rapper is always kind of like putting your life on display. You feel? His life is more absolutely. You know what I mean? At display than the average battle rapper, you feel what I'm saying? So he put more to gain, so he would probably need more out of it than the nigga that he battling. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's probably
Starting point is 01:05:53 money and business involved. It's probably just timeframes involved and all the kind of shit. And I think he would probably do better off battling another industry. You know what I'm saying? That's right. to somebody that he can also, like if him and Kendrick would have not did distance and gotten the battle ring, it made a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You know what I mean? Because they both celebrities at that status where they could take shots at, you know what I mean, like Drake battling murder, Moog, no this to Moog, but he got less to pull from, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Nah, and also too, y'all, like, if Drake thought that the Kendrick Lamar, like, bars was.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah, Moop would have been up there trying to go crazy, you know what I'm saying? Hey, listen, man, listen, if niggas thought that, like, like, you know, La Fala was hard and not like us, and battle rap, it would have been, they would have been making that shit down a thousand times worse. Oh, man. Wait till Drake hopping at a rig with Gucci or murder, bro. Listen, like, I'm talking about, like, like, like, like, like, it's going to take a dark turn. Yeah. Like, like, like, just based on, like, what Kendrick, like, did.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah. If Drake ever did it with you or murder. I feel like. It will get so dark that it will make us feel comfortable. Yeah, the ballers are trying to die deep, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Now, one thing I will say battle rap is up to that point, you know what I'm saying? But a lot of times they falsify angles on you, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:07:16 So since there's already like an angle out there, that's something that they will just pull it from and just, you know what I mean? You don't need to have no facts when it's an angle out there. Yeah. Yo, look, now, get part of me, right? If I'm right, because I'm just going with the running area. have you ever took a lying angle during the battle
Starting point is 01:07:34 like lied about somebody else shit not lie but you know you lied yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm probably see I wouldn't I don't go in like
Starting point is 01:07:46 digging niggas past and shit right so when I battle like I'm not one of the dudes who gonna hit up niggas people in their neighborhood like yo was he really official hate
Starting point is 01:07:52 because I ain't doing that but if this is shit that pop up in the Instagram algorithm on the YouTube algorithm some new shit I just grab that and stretch that. So if it's something going on, that other ballers have already said to a battle,
Starting point is 01:08:07 and battle, a lot of angles just last forever, you know what I'm saying? So, like, you got an angle about Arsenal. They were saying he was a bus driver, even if that was two or nine. You know what I mean? That's a classic angle, you know what I'm saying? So now if you battle Arsenal, nine times of ten, you're going to have some bus driver bars. Whether he never drove a bus or not, they made it sound realistic.
Starting point is 01:08:27 You feel me? Like, I was selling, I was selling weaves, you know what I'm saying? So now my kids are about on me and be like, oh, Gigi, he'd do hair. Like, bitch, I don't do hair. I'm selling these holes, like, weaves and shit. I don't even do it no more, but you feel me? So now, that's just how they would do. So, niggas could just, you know, like, fabricate, you feel me, niggas and fabricate some shit, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:47 Oh, yeah. You know, wea's crazy, man, right? Yeah. Now, that's wild, man. It's not. It was a crazy business when it was popping. I mean, it's still popping. I just don't got it no more.
Starting point is 01:08:55 money and I think you start with you. Yeah, I just don't got it no more right now. That's, nah, wait, here, right? All right, so speaking of angles, right? So, like, and here's why I ask that question now, right? So you went viral, man, all right? Now, I'm going to say this. You, you say that to Remedy Moss's face was one of, like, like, I feel like,
Starting point is 01:09:16 maybe I'm biased from calling Dick Rodder, because, listen, these common-section niggins were about to say, you're, bro, you, you're d'rotter, get his whole time. Listen, I feel like. Like to me, that's a top-off battle-write moment in the last decade. For sure, right? No, that's man, though. Yeah, you ain't lying about that.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You're saying that to Remmy Ma's face with what's going on with the magnitude of the marriage. Yeah. And you broke the story as well. You know why, right? It was already out there a little bit. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I did like a video on it like before you. Yeah, you did. And it did probably like $30,000 of views, bro. After your battle, when you said that, I covered it. 170,000. I need a check. Right? So like, right, for me,
Starting point is 01:10:01 that was a moment. Yeah, for sure. So, speak on that real quick, right? I mean, it's the same scenario, though, is like something like you said, it was already in the blogs of people saying it. So whether it's true or not, it's out there enough to where you can make this hit in battle right,
Starting point is 01:10:15 because if you heard it, that mean everybody that's following her heard in it, this is her league. So that mean, all the people that's coming here already familiar with her. So that mean, they're familiar with the parties involved. and one of the people that's involved is the nigga that I'm battling. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:28 That these are the people to allege type of situation. So do I believe it was true at the time? Hell, no. You know what I'm saying? Like, she married. That's my people. I f*** with them.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Well, no. Now we know that that was the absolute truth now. Oh, we do. I don't know. Yeah. Oh, shit. I still didn't know. You just broke some shit to me.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Hey, Remy. I ain't know. A lot. They are. They are. Yeah. Well, they ain't going to do it me, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Yeah, no, if you go to like her like her like Spotify name, like right, like she changed it from like Remi. I think it was like Macin or whatever was. Yeah. So back to her like, it made a name now. Oh shit. Oh, damn. Yeah, right? No, but for people who are like like, you know, like kind of like lost, right?
Starting point is 01:11:05 Or confused. So Remi Ma and Easy to Black Captain was in this storyline of that Remi Ma cheated on Papoos with Easy to Black Captain. And then and then Papoos beat up. easy to block after. Now, you sort of expounded and gave more details that a lot of folks weren't privy to, right? Now, were those details fabricated or
Starting point is 01:11:29 you actually heard those things and you just repeated it? Like I say, man, I went with what was out there. So if you was following their storyline, like I say, that was online. All of that shit was shit that was already out in the blogs. It was blog saying that he knocked the nigga out. It was blog saying this and that.
Starting point is 01:11:45 So as a battle rapper, I'm like, okay, they said a nigga got knocked out. Boom, I'm going to talk about it. He got knocked out. But I heard having a battle in a specific city so Papoos won't show up or, or if Papoos show up, he had the numbers on Papoos, and this was like a setup for Papoos, that's like a narrative right there. That's what I'm saying, but you got to think so you're battling me. I'm one of the best anglers in battle rap. So you just can't get me an inch.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm going to make a mile like that. You know what I'm going to sound as good as possible when you're going against me. That's what they pay me the big bucks for because when you know what you know what you And again, when you booked me, she knew what's going on. Like, this gaecie. Like, when you battle him, he's going to say the wildest shit. You can't stop him. He's going to say some crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:12:27 This is what it was. So she already knew that I'm coming in that month for death. Like, I'm going to come here and try to kill a nigga career real quick. You know, so I don't think she even took it to the point of like, not, not understanding what she was paying for. Like, that's what it was. You know what I'm saying? That's probably one of her highest view battles on her channel.
Starting point is 01:12:44 You know what I'm saying? For sure. Like top two or three view battles on her channel. You know what I'm saying? Top one, right? That shit was crazy. Yeah, I think the only one that got one was Hitman Holla got a battle on her channel. That probably got a million more.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You know what I'm saying? I think we had like two, three and he had four. Himmer Halla, like who he battled on her church? He battled Easy as well, you know what I'm saying? They had a good battle. Wait, wait, wait. How did, listen, man. Wait, an easy and Hitman Holla battle did a million more than y'all shit?
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. Because listen. They battle was before ours, though. Yeah, but also, too, right? I feel like a lot of us, like, just, like, just outright, like, like, boo-legged Oh, you know, the bootleg fatted up for a lot of views too for it too. Because a lot of people had it millions of views on just a regular little YouTube. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Hundreds of thousands of views on just this. I'm like, damn, that one was out before it was out. And they took a long time to drop the battle. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I'm thinking she going to drop it the next day because they bootlegging it. They held that bitch for like a month. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:39 That for sure. Yeah, that for sure. Yeah, they for sure. Yeah, they for sure probably hurt the views on it. You know what I'm saying? But like I say, she under C come from battle around. So I think people didn't take that for consideration where everybody like, oh man, Remy couldn't take it
Starting point is 01:13:52 But it's like, man, she doesn't say some disrespectful shit She's she know how this shit go, pap, they're some real MCs, They're real rappers, you know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't never had him hit me say no disrespectful shit Her hit me, say no disrespectful shit After where she still paid the money, we still kicked it. I just seen her recently, you know what I'm saying? So, but I opened the story up
Starting point is 01:14:09 And you're damaged. In a different, yeah, so I'll take the blame for that on the hood But it's like you jumped in the ring with me And I told them that beforehand And, like, you know, when you get in the ring with me, it's like, nigga gloves off. Like, me, I don't get up here and play like this. Easy good, though, right?
Starting point is 01:14:22 Because he got, listen, look, like. But it was niggas he battled after me that took the same angles, too. And before me, that took the same angles. It just, I did it in a different way. Disaster took it, John John took it. Charlie Clips just battled him took the same angle. Like, it just, I did it in a way that nobody else did it. Because I think I came at her.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You know what I'm saying? You feel? You feel? You know, you feel? You know what I'm saying? Not like, right, like, listen. And easy. listen, and he's loving it, right?
Starting point is 01:14:47 Yeah, right? Like, fine, right? Because, bro, like, what? Listen, listen, bro. You being to be a part of the rumor of being, whether it's true and not, I'm gonna sit back and just let it happen. Like, fuck me. You heard that call, though.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Hey, listen, when you heard that call or was you like, damn, easy? Like, like, like, like, you just drive me, nigga? No, the recording shit that was out right. Yeah, yeah, like, you know. Because he said, hey, listen, even if it should get exposed, I don't give a fuck, I'm still going to be literal. I'm still going to be literal. I'm saying, right there.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what made the bars and everything here harder and later on. When the recording started, when people start putting them out on them. Yeah. Hell, yeah, for sure. Why, you got to watch you say on them phones, though. Niggis shouldn't be recording niggas conversation with the same time.
Starting point is 01:15:29 You shouldn't say nothing that you can't stand on talking to somebody else, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yo, here, right, speak on that real quick, though, man. So why do you feel like L.A. has this culture of recording phone calls? Because, like, listen, being the media here, right? Yeah. Bro, there's a different thing that can get leaked phone calls dropping. every week.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm like, bro, like at this point, bro, I'm terrified to even hop on a phone with a LA nigger no more, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:51 I think it's just this era of the niggas in LA media, you know what I'm saying? That's doing that. And they gotta stop that though like on some gang to shit though.
Starting point is 01:15:58 That's like police shit, but like, niggas is, one thing about this right here, homie is people is, is in love with them views in that in that cloud and that notoriety.
Starting point is 01:16:09 So niggas are crash. I don't do anything just to get any type of notice. Do you know what I'm saying? So if that means, I got a record a nigga conversation and put it out. These niggas want that more than anything else now. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:19 They want that clout. They want to be known for something. You know what I'm saying? And so they lose all their codes and their morals and their ethics. You know what I'm saying? Because these people in the comments, like you said, the comment section is people reading this all day. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:31 Oh my God, what he said about me? What's he said about me? You know what I'm saying? They don't even know who these motherfuckers is, but the motherfuckers are making them crash out and do these things. You know what I'm saying? Like recording, that's never been cool. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:16:39 Recording anything. just a conversation, you know what's the use of recording something that's supposed to be private. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like everything we're saying on this. No jumper interview, we're ready to stand on. Once you cut the cameras off, we're just having the man conversation and you just start letting the cameras roll again. You put that footage out.
Starting point is 01:16:55 That's a problem because it's like, nigga, we didn't know we was being recorded. We might have just said whatever was on our heart and whatever was on our mind at that time. You know what I'm saying? Even if it was the same shit, we would have said in front of the camera. It's like, nigga, we was having a personal talk when we had that. So the problem is a lot of people is getting too doing it. not everybody trying to do it too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:12 You know what, man? Once you catch one nigga, now, everybody, like, me catch him, I'm gonna make sure. It's terrifying. See, see, listen, right? Like, you said, something very important. You said,
Starting point is 01:17:23 bro, anything you say, you gotta stand on it, right? Now, I'll be real. I'm not really of, of, like, that belief, I mean, bro,
Starting point is 01:17:31 like, listen, man, if I'm podcasting, me, man, right, listen, listen, if I'm podcasting, and popping my shit,
Starting point is 01:17:37 me, talking feeling good. Let me pop my shit. I can't, right here right because look so I did a video on Rememima and like Easy right yeah like by like two videos right
Starting point is 01:17:48 so I went to New York right and I was supposed to go like the Philly too and my boy like Samir right and he's I think Remi Miles's like cameraman or right okay
Starting point is 01:18:05 and he said yo easy can reach out to me saying, yo, he's trying to lock in and do an interview when you're out here. Man, I said shit, nigga, hey, listen, man, I was born, listen, I was born yesterday, right? No, sorry, I wasn't born yesterday, nigga. Shit, nigga.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Yeah, really. I was born in a day, but not yesterday. You know what I'm saying? You can't be just saying that shit about her internet, not standing on it, man. Rem me that, everything shit doesn't have been in that place, man. And I got Rotter Fart 2, wait. He said, yo, yo, yo, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:40 She wanted to meet you too. Yeah. I said, nigga, man, man, shit. She was just going to hemmed you up. Like, hey, man, what you're saying on internet? How about you? What got to? Fuck out of it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Hey, bro, listen. Yo, listen, bro. Like, now that I, like, found out that, like, her son, she's got booked for, like, a murder. Allegedly, man. Allegedly, right? Yeah. Hey, listen, I don't want no smoke smoke with that family, bro. Hey, fan, listen.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Hey, remember me my, bro. I want to humbly apologize, man. There you go. That's the way to do it. Sometimes you've got to get on camera and be like, look, my bad, I did something wrong that I felt was right. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I be saying, basically, from it go back to earlier, it ain't, there's no make you a lesser of a man. If you felt you did something that was like, I wasn't really, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:19:24 I wasn't really, you know what I mean? It ain't that deep and you can move past it, you know what I'm saying? Now you can go to New York and interviewer, you know what I'm saying? You see, yeah, right? That's serious. Right, because, look, because, like, it wasn't even that bad. I think I called her at Scaliwag a few times. Oh, see, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:39 You're doing too much, good, go on, girl, girl. Right, what you do? Right. She just got out. But I humbly apologize, right? I did not mean that you are, you know, a mother. Come on, a black queen. A wife of black queen, man, right?
Starting point is 01:19:55 Hip-up minor. You know what I'm saying? Hiling your business, you know? I was out of my body. But a lot of podcasters do that. So listen, that's the thing right there. And I'm glad you did. That's, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:04 Shout out Remy, man. When they do these talks about people, they go on to the point of disrespecting them. So it's like, you could cover a motherfucker all day long. Like, look, I think this was wrong. I think this is this. But then you'd be like, yeah, man, that bitch is a hole, man. She's sucking like doing on this roast.
Starting point is 01:20:19 That's different. If she was my bitch, I'd have knocked the stupid ass out. And it's like, wait, hold the fuck on. Put you on the, just people to steal real motherfuckers. Personal preface on there. Like, now they're looking at the shit at the house. Like, hold on. Like, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:20:28 You would have did this? And I'm listening. Now you don't even know me? You know what I'm saying? You feel me? You can't understand. But it's like, damn, nigga, why say some shit? That now if I see you, I have to say something to you because you call me shit that I wouldn't let you call me in my face.
Starting point is 01:20:40 You're taking it there. You're taking it there. You know what I'm saying? That's when you, like, I understand your level of podcast and you kind of got to do some shock jock shit. You understand how controversy sells. So trust me, we get it. But to take it to that next level, once you really understand of like understanding how you can still be shockingly without being disrespectful, man, you're going to really run it all the way up, bro, to a different level. Especially out here in L.A. is not a lot of platforms.
Starting point is 01:21:03 and this one of the biggest one, still, you know what I'm saying? It'll lose its credibility, though, when motherfuckers is up here doing bullshit and it's like, it's looking goofy up here and niggas is like, man, I'm going to come up here and talk to niggas is clown, man, niggas is clowns. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So you got an obligation to be like, all right, if I'm one of the more known, because you want of the more known, that's in this building, you know what I'm saying? You value your opinion? You didn't have been up there with academics and all kinds of motherfacists who's also super big.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Yeah, you know, that's super big out here. You know, he's another nigga that dude the shock jock shit. But then he know how to draw the line of respect as well and teeter on the fence, you know what I'm saying? So once you're learning that, you're going to get further and further in your game because you don't want to create yourself to where only you can interview inside the house
Starting point is 01:21:45 or be around the text. You want to still be able to jump out like you say and enjoy where you going and not have to be like, hey, nigga, check it out. What you, you know what I'm saying? Because no matter of you, license to carry, no matter if you're not a fight,
Starting point is 01:21:55 no matter if you got two niggas with you, it's always, it's no these niggas who don't do what fuck, you know what I mean? And you got to stand on that. So when lose a draw, sometimes, you might have to do something to a nigga that you didn't want to do ruin the rest of your day or something happened to you and now your people so you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:22:08 to lessen a lot of that is going to take you farther like man I'm gonna do too much disrespect you niggas I'm gonna cover you niggas but I ain't gonna call y'all out your names I'm gonna still get the same content because you already got poetic flaco fans you know what I'm saying you got your fan base already that's tune thing for you you know what I mean you ain't got to do too much yeah yeah yeah so I think I think I heard like way back like I was like I had some issues in Compton or I was bad and I still and I Still don't know why.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Like, have you heard it? Like, you heard. Like, you heard. Like, did you? Did you? Nah, nah, not, right?
Starting point is 01:22:39 Nah, right. Now, right. Now, right. So this was like, probably like I said like four months ago, right? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Bro. And I think it was like, yo, yo, and it was a few people, right? Okay. I think even,
Starting point is 01:22:51 it's what punt told me, yo, bro, like, stay clear of the year. Yeah, right? Like, like, like, like,
Starting point is 01:22:56 like, stay clear, I think east of something. I'm on ask for it was. Right? So I'm like, bro, what did I do, man? So have you heard it? I didn't hear nothing.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It didn't touch my ears. Damn, man. I didn't touch my ears. Yeah, I'm lost in the sauce as well. Yeah, you was good. You know what you do, you know what I'm saying? You can't come to the city? We're going to fix it for you.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Like, I don't know. We're going to fix it for you right now. You're good to come through the city wherever that problem was. You're good right now. You keep a clean slate, man. Yeah, yeah. And, you're straight with us. Compton is good.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I apologize. August 10th come fuck with us. We're giving back. Backpacks to the school, Compton Airport, all these kids giving back, man, even if you want to bring a pencil of paper, help hand out something, do that, that's going to put you back in the good graces of the shit.
Starting point is 01:23:36 That's my word. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be a lot of motherfuck there. I'm going to get your number. He got your number. This 10 plus is going to be a good vibe, good give, but I'm going to have my boy DJ amazing going to be spending the records for the kids
Starting point is 01:23:46 as they're getting. We're going to have people giving free haircuts, women braiding, the girls here, everything free of charge. You know what I mean? Nobody got to pay for nothing. It's going to be food. It's going to be free.
Starting point is 01:23:56 everything's going to be free. We're just giving back to the kids on the tent because everybody going back to school. So, you know, that's fine. They'll love to see you on me. Trust me. It ain't going to be no. We're trying to get you over there
Starting point is 01:24:06 to sucker punch you on camera. No, no, that's out. Already, we want to come and fuck with you. Hey, listen, man, I'm there, man, feel me? That's love. Now, listen. All right, so speaking of, you know, speaking of tough talk, right?
Starting point is 01:24:20 Verbin holler has been online. Man, I've been seeing that. Yeah, I've been seeing that. Yo, listen. Yo, when I, like, tapped in your hollow I think was on like a clubhouse or something they got spaces on Twitter yeah they got that shit
Starting point is 01:24:32 and he would say hey nigga drop the address anywhere in America I'm pulling up tonight yeah yeah yeah I said damn right listen right look yeah right yeah
Starting point is 01:24:45 and Verbs said hey brother let's box and Hollis said nigga I don't want one like no I'll get money nigga yeah yeah ain't no box I want to fight you keep all that money he said I can you keep all that money he said nah, nigger, I'm going to shoot you.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I said, damn! Battle rap? Is this crazy, right? Right? I seen it. I heard it, too. Yeah, I seen that, man. But they got a different relationship with each other.
Starting point is 01:25:10 They both from St. Louis. You know what I mean? They came up in the game together. So a lot of their shit probably just spilling over into the internet is not coming off the way that we would have expected it. So I think that's what's really shocking. Hitman always have a history. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:25:23 Like selling fights and pop and pop and shit and when you got a battle coming up. But the fact they already battled, make people be like, damn, this must be real. If they didn't have a, if they wouldn't have already battled, most people would have just looked at it like they battle talking.
Starting point is 01:25:33 They're talking shit, going crazy, making people get involved with it, but this seem a little more real. I hope they'll fall back just for the simple fact that they, you know what I mean, they both in the same city. They probably ain't hard to run it to each other. So like you say,
Starting point is 01:25:44 when you're talking like that and that shit comes to a head and they both got too much money, too much shit to lose to just, you know, crash out over. But I don't even know if the situation is that serious. It could be. You see, like, what makes it too, like kind of like more epic is
Starting point is 01:25:58 it's two different like personalities right? Too different personalities. Verb talking about like 40A laws of power and reading and being a student and hollas crashing out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, so like it's here, how do you feel
Starting point is 01:26:12 like that will end? It's like, I ain't gonna lie, it's gonna take somebody from their city that they both respect to like, you know what I'm saying, bringing them to the heads, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, like what's this? Like, what's, how far is this going to go? Because I'm pretty sure they got some kind of love for each other somewhere in there.
Starting point is 01:26:28 If they've been around each other that long, they know each other's parents and brothers, sisters, kids. So it's somebody that know them enough to be like, hold on, man, y'all ain't got to take it. Even if y'all going to handle it, don't handle it in front of the world. You know what I'm saying? Even if y'all got to go to the backyard, there don't got to be no money involved,
Starting point is 01:26:42 then y'all just got to throw them and go ahead and do that. You know what I'm saying? But don't crash out in front of the rest of the world because, like, niggie, y'all niggas at a point in time consider each other brothers, you know what I'm saying? So we hate to see that type of shit anytime when niggas that you know really dealt with each other in a different way, like crash out in front of other people who really don't care
Starting point is 01:26:58 who we and lose a draw with between it. Like, we just going to enjoy the show. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? At all. With they're going to, guys that are going to go. Crash. They ain't lying though.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Exactly going to be niggins who wait. Like, niggum, I can't wait for them to see each time. You know what I'm saying? So you got to be somebody that fuck with them enough to call them and be like, hey, little bro. Hey, big bro, little bro. Hey, chill out. Yeah, I mean?
Starting point is 01:27:20 Like, knock that off. It ain't that serious. Do you feel like that. Holla, now obviously, man, and he, like, has money, his trucks, he got these trucks going on. Like, you feel like, bro, like, he's, like, for example, like, even like doing, like, the Cassie thing, right?
Starting point is 01:27:35 He's, like, talking about, bro, like, grab my bag, I'm going to eat this bitch out, and Cass said, you know, you won't leave this place alive. Right? Oh, yeah, I've seen that shit. Right? So you feel like Holla, maybe it's just a tabby too turn for his position,
Starting point is 01:27:49 maybe he should kind of, like, you know, just move a little, you know, like, quieter, you know, be more some do it be it'd be it'd be one it'd be things like this too though you know what I'm saying some people are who they are you know what I'm saying so if that's how he's always been and that's how he gonna remain but then like I say they had a battle lined up so yeah even though that might have been a little crazy and those faceoffs it get crazy my fucking saying some of the wildest shit to each other because like we're in a battle nigga I don't got no respect for you right now you know what I'm saying like it is what it is you're a bitch until we get paid
Starting point is 01:28:15 you know I'm saying it's over like I ain't got no respect for you so a lot of times the nigga not really too much tripping you know what I'm saying like that's a battle that's going to happen between me and hollas soon you You know what I'm saying? Oh, really? So I'm going to be having to deal with me. He's going to have to deal with me talking shit. So, you know, you understand.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Nah, he won't be at trying with you, though? Yeah, no, hell, no, he's going to have to calm this shit. You feel me? Hey, hollah, you got the conversation to fuck down. You're standing for me. But, uh, Hillman and Cassidy, they, they're going to grab the blet. Oh, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:28:42 You know, what? Hold on. You know what? You know what I'm saying? But you're shocked, but I mean, but I ain't going to lie. Him and Cassidy is one of the highest view faceoffs in battle around history. They down there got 10 million views on just them talking shit But you shocked though
Starting point is 01:28:56 You know what I'm saying Now I'll be real right I feel like So I was expecting for hitman hollad to blow Cassidy Out of Order Yeah And because he didn't You feel like Cassidy won
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yeah Cassidy won Right So was you shocked That Cassidy performed like that Against Hallam? Not because by the time he battled Holla That was like his third battle back He battled goods
Starting point is 01:29:19 He battled Arsenal Disaster Then he battled up Holla. So to me, I'm like, he had to learn something by now. You know what I'm saying? I think he was going to win. Nah. But Hitman Holla is a more performance-based battle rapper, anyway, and Cassidy's more lyricist.
Starting point is 01:29:35 So he's more. Exactly. You feel me? So, yeah, so bar for bore, you knew Cassie had a chance because Hitman ain't just some word, Smith, that's going to just smoke you with the lines. He's going to perform and make the lines. Animated it's the way animated, you know what I'm saying? So all Cassie had to do is survive a little bit, like you said, and it's going to look a lot closer. So now I wasn't too surprised on that one.
Starting point is 01:29:52 You see, right? So, here, so I feel like Cassidy beat disaster in my eyes. He beat hit him in holla. Niggas, niggas sleep on Cassidy. Like, niggas forgot? Yeah, yeah, he lost the arsenal. Yeah, Arsenal was the clear definitive. This nigga lost.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Arsenal, probably. Gus to me was kind of like 50-50. Like, and still was like, yeah, he didn't get him. Yeah, for real. So that's why they guys had to keep seeing them. If they're trying to get around, if you battle good and good, We're going to kill him. God damn.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Cassidy got another, you're going to kill him. Arsenal come. Carson will kill him, of course. Now he's not a battle. But he got the hitman battle, but it's like, okay, he did get him, but it's like, okay, Cassidy, nigga, he ain't dead dead yet, though.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Like, even the Arsenal got him about in here. He's still talking shit. He needs to battle a nigga that's going to be like, nigga, this shit over with. He's the best of talking ever, though. Yeah, don't get your ass back on the stage, you know what I'm saying? Like, we didn't want to hear it no more.
Starting point is 01:30:52 And like you said, he wanted to best shit talkers. Like, no, you can't take that from Cassie. Cassie, he's going to talk his shit. You know, I'm going to lose the drug. He's going to get on the cameras afterwards and be calling the nigger trash saying niggas was hating it. And he's feels, though, right? Because he was going to walk around with at least like 100 killers, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Because he's like, even doing like, like, like the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like the hitman holler shit, right? You know, obviously, brother, hit him and holl will probably beat up casting, right? I don't know. But Cass is talking like, hey, niggis, do it. I didn't even do it, nigga. I said, damn. Hold up now, bro. Are you?
Starting point is 01:31:27 Because you can't judge a book by his cover. You never know what he really can do when it's time for, you know what? He's small, right? He's small compared to hitman, though. Your hit man got him being hype for show, for sure. Right?
Starting point is 01:31:35 And he's like talking, hey, do it, nigga. I did you, nigga. He's a hustler. He's a hustler. Yeah, right? Hair, right? So look, there's an argument, though, right? Because, hey, right?
Starting point is 01:31:47 So folks would say, Cassidy, in terms of, like, for example, it's kind of like the Floyd argument, right? Where Floyd probably isn't the best technical boxer, but Floyd made out with the most money, right? So Floyd is the goal. So Cassidy being somebody who made out with a lot of money and brought around.
Starting point is 01:32:04 I think his battle with like disaster was like $2.50. Right? That's good. So if you got the bags like this and sort of open up the gateway, is there an argument for Cassidy being a top five battle rapper of all time? He definitely got the argument of being like top five, like most influentials. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Impact for sure. Because he don't got enough battles on camera to say that when it's other dudes who don't got hundreds of battles on camera against everybody in battle every style. Even though he said he got 500,000 or 5,000 battles and never lost one. You know what I'm saying? Cousy for that.
Starting point is 01:32:37 But it ain't on camera to prove but, like, influential for sure because you don't bring more bags. And you know if you book Cassidy, that's any lead. They know if they book them, they're going to get the promo because he's going to talk shit. He's going to hit the right platforms. He's going to get a certain set of eyes that might have not watched it if he wasn't in it
Starting point is 01:32:52 because he got his own fans that come from a different genre that more than just battle rap you know what I mean he got industry connects that might even sponsor or put money into as well you know so you got to respect him for that you know what I mean you can't take that from him like you know what I mean he alleged when it comes to that for sure oh God now Cassidy
Starting point is 01:33:08 I think he was speaking and on Eminem and said that Eminem is somewhat overrated due to he's not really like piecing up a lot of syllables right it's like the same syllables
Starting point is 01:33:22 and even some it's slant rhyme right which is not even like right like a direct scheme and rhyme scheme right so when you look at I guess Eminem's place
Starting point is 01:33:31 you know in rap history right now some people like I feel like there's a there's a consensus he's top 10 yeah
Starting point is 01:33:38 do you feel like top 10 as an MC for Eminem is overrated or underrated or just right yeah he's top 10 for sure for sure damn
Starting point is 01:33:46 for sure he top 10 I know niggas don't want to give him that because he a white Dude, think about it. We didn't know about Detroit music at all until M&M. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 01:33:55 Okay, Rachel, okay, Rachel, look. Okay, look, so look, here's like the consensus, right? Yeah. Is Biggie, Pock, JZ. Nause. Nause. Okay, okay, Rassel, look. So Biggie, Pock, JZ, Naz.
Starting point is 01:34:09 We have to put Drake. No way. Nah, not, hell. No way, top ten, bro. Not hell not. You crazy. What? What?
Starting point is 01:34:18 Nah, hell not. Lil Wayne top 10, bro. Right, because... Jay to kiss top 10. Hell, nah, man. What the fuck you mean? Who are you gonna put your top in? What the fucking?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Trippy Reds? Do you enough, though? No, right? Like, hair, right? For kissing doing enough, though, right? No, man, he did do enough. I'm shocked. What?
Starting point is 01:34:38 What? See, so. Little Wayne, draw three, draw, two, draw one? We're talking music, cataloging everything, Lil Wayne in there for show. For sure. Dedication one, two, three. There ain't no other way.
Starting point is 01:34:48 He's a way. He's top three, probably. Let's see. So, Jay, Biggie, Pac, Nas, I'll say Drake and Kendrick is definitely like top seven. They're not in front of Wayne.
Starting point is 01:34:58 They're not in front of Wayne. Without Drake and Kendrick ain't in front of Wayne, bro. Neither one of them in front of Wayne. Wayne don't Drake. He has more hits than Jay Z and the Beatles combined. I'm not saying that. He is. No, no, that difference.
Starting point is 01:35:11 He probably top 10 artists of all. Artists. We're talking straight rap, though. Liggin'a in front of both of them. The entire package. Rap, the accolades, the influence, the everything, right? Yeah, okay, you got that.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Look, right, because listen, because, like, in terms of just rap, Pac-Nine Top 10. Yeah. Be for real. Wait, wait, you said what? What's your matter? You say, what?
Starting point is 01:35:32 In terms of just MC and rap, Pac-Nine Top 10. Come on. Be for real. I ain't going to lie, because you tripping now. You're crazy. What? No. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:35:41 Pock not top 10, what, rappers? Ladies. If Pac a better emcee than, than Nicole. Yeah, he up there with cold Yeah, dear mama Yes Come on, man it's and Mrs.
Starting point is 01:35:53 label me and look Oh, I got a Pock message that resonated Dear Mama Keep his head up Whoa man, troubles him So many tears Pock was an amazing artist With a great message that resonated
Starting point is 01:36:05 And yes Jack Co did J-Co do the same thing Pacing up bars And tantres and metaphors and similes And piecing up He had records like that Exactly Those weren't the records that was highlighting
Starting point is 01:36:17 His highlighted records were the dear mammas. I ain't mad at just. Hell married. Yeah, those were his hit records and shit like that. But did he have other records where he was just on there just straight rapping hell? But Tupac's skill set is not above Jay Cole's skill set, bro. Everything grows as years go on. You're going to say LeBron's skill set might be more than Larry Byers.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Absolutely. But that's take away Larry Byrd. Being in the dogs. That's impact, you know what I'm saying? It's 204. Niggotton, J. Better be able to rap with a little more intricacy than a nigga that you already, you was able to take something from this nigga and add to it.
Starting point is 01:36:49 You know what I'm saying? So it's only going to get better as time gets on. But we just judging it from where they was at their time and in their prime. Now, Pac is up there for all these niggas, man. His music still lasts and he's been dead, what, 20-something years? Yeah, for sure. Now, look, Pac-to-Meet is top three in terms of the whole package, right? The songwriting, like the influence, right?
Starting point is 01:37:12 You know, like the accolades. Yeah. The impact that everything Pac-a's top. But if you're telling me, right, that I'm just taking Pock in an isolated, right? Yeah. And taking J. Cole, Kendrick, Blackthaw, Jay Electronica. Nah. Pock is not in that tier of dumb niggas in terms of, like, getting busy with the pet and lyrics.
Starting point is 01:37:34 She's crazy. I can't agree with you, man. I'm not going to love with you. I can't agree with you. I look. I look. Here, right. Here, right.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I look. Pock or Eminem, who's a better, like, a better lyricist. Pock. Have you heard trapped? Like, before the tough baldhead Pock, like trapped. Sure. All that shit like you were like the political Pock.
Starting point is 01:37:59 You know what I'm saying? Pain. Pain. Also, too, right? Pock never got a chance to evolve into that. Bro, 25 years old, bro. Like, you're not like, I'm rapping no-fri-year-old. Right?
Starting point is 01:38:12 Right? Right. So, like, it's unfair for us to say that Pock, a 25-year-op or a 24-year-old, 21-year-op. He is a better lyricist than a 40-year-old at Eminem who had 30-40 years of, like, rapping. You feel me? Right, right?
Starting point is 01:38:28 But pop, I'm gonna be honest, though, and no disrespect to Eminem, because Eminem is one of the goats, you know what I'm saying? He's bar for boy, line for line, man. He wanted to coldest, man. Like, his whole camp, niggas, like Royce to fire nine, all them niggers over there is rappers. They really, they barred up.
Starting point is 01:38:40 They barred up over there, so I'm not taking that from him. But like, for me, like I say, man, being able to have lyrics that also resonate and touch the soul and invoke certain feelings makes you a better that makes you a better emcee than an average motherfucker that I can just
Starting point is 01:38:55 put these words together because he's putting the words together to say like what I just was rapping troublesome, you know what I'm saying? He's still doing menace and methods label me elite the weapon making niggas dog witness and breathless imperfection can you picture my specific plan?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Now M&M say that you sound crazy. Minnes and method maybe with me illegal making niggas die with this and breathes look at the same shit you know what I'm saying? Got songs like that
Starting point is 01:39:14 you dig what I'm saying? So some people just think lyricism it's because the motherfuck saying it. You know what I'm saying? Like, nah, because the biggest take that away from me in battle it used to be like,
Starting point is 01:39:22 oh man, you're not lyrical like as a loaded lucks or something, you feel me? Then when I battle with Lux and I break down a nigga style, like, bro, you're just saying it like this.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Like, not saying he's not dope. He is a lyricist but you can't take it away from somebody else who just decides not to deliver it the same way
Starting point is 01:39:35 because a lot of these motherfuck at the top rappers all got the pen. You feel I'm saying? The top rappers, they all got the pin. That's just, that's what is what is.
Starting point is 01:39:42 You ain't gonna be no top MC in this game if you can't write raps. You know what I'm saying? Of course. Now, if you're a Pee-D-Poblo, nigga that's making a spin around a hitter like a helicopter type party songs, then maybe you won't get looked at like that. But, nigga, Biggie, Nause, J. Eminem, Kanye, Lil Wayne,
Starting point is 01:40:00 nigga, Jada kiss, DMX. Nigger, you can, even Nipsey you can put in that, nigga category of niggas who really can write and say dope shit and make you feel like, you feel that shit in your chest. You know what I'm saying. You know, you feel that shit. You know what ass rappers who really can spit, And then there's other niggas, like you say, who we didn't even name,
Starting point is 01:40:14 from who was arguing over earlier, nigga, the fabulous is, and all these dudes, these dudes is rapper they can rap. But for me, that feeling, that feeling going always, for me, is going to override. Like, I can, like, damn, I hear the lyrics that this nigga's spitting. And, you know what I'm saying? Because if you just, if you just spitting like saying witty lyrics
Starting point is 01:40:31 and niggas who got the penny and all this shit, then they get to talking about niggas like Farrow Munch and Talib Qaulay. And you know what I'm saying? You might as well say, they're the best rappers. If you just going to say everybody who just got super lyrics, nigga now daylight. You know what I'm saying? Sure.
Starting point is 01:40:44 But who you named earlier, you know what I'm saying? There's a lot of niggins who get, you know what I mean? But to be able to have them saying lyrics and invoke that feeling to make my motherfuckers relate to it, to me, that's what makes the ultimate lyrics. Like, you know what I mean? Because a lot of them dudes. I ain't going to lie to you. On the way here, I'll listen, Tupac on the way here on God.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, let's hear me hard question. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Listen, yo, here's a hard question though, right? And I'll be real, I feel like this conversation that we are about to have may get me in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 01:41:14 So this may be, be like the last question. Yeah, for sure. Now, listen, I'm not going to give my opinion, right, because I love and respect this man, right? Okay. Yeah. Is Nipsey Hustle a top five West Coast rapper of all time? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:30 All right, so who's your top five? Okay, not top five. West Coast. We got to put pocket in there, even though people are going to argue and debate and be like, hey, when he's Coast, why, man, we got pocket. You know what I'm saying? We got Pock.
Starting point is 01:41:44 We got Snoop. Of course, Q. We got Q for sure. Now, this is where it gets tricky because it's a lot of niggas. It's a lot of put in there, you know what I'm saying? But Pock, Snoop, and Cube is, you know what I mean? Like they guaranteed in there. They goaded in this shit.
Starting point is 01:42:00 You know what I'm saying? They goaded in this shit. Now, for me, where I'm going to probably go different at is I'm going to probably, I would have probably went like easy, but before his time, you know what I'm saying? He left before his time so he didn't get a chance to, To really leave that marked the way everybody else did. But I might go, I might go E-Fody, if we're talking West. E-FOTI and then, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:42:22 So here's, okay, so here's my top five, right? Yeah. And here's why I think that that's probably your personal preference, but if we're just talking about the totality of West Coast rap, it has to be, right? Yeah. Pock, Snoop, Snoop, Kube, Kendrick, Kaine. Kendrick, for sure, got to be in there.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Right? Kendrick Game. That right there It's the undisputed Nobody can knock those five out the top five E-40 He's in there over one of them That's all everything
Starting point is 01:42:49 Who? Who? Game or Kendra? Game. The man stopping, bro. No, that's a fact, bro. Over the game? That's a fact. Nicky how?
Starting point is 01:42:58 A thousand times over the game, bro. And game from Compton, nigga, E-40, way more of a legend, way more legendary than the game. What's the accolades, nigga, album after album, nigga got his own motherfucking vernacular nickers is talking like E-40
Starting point is 01:43:09 and that was shit. Give us going diving, by the way. Give us going to die. Salute. I know he's going to be. For me, talking. Like, that's not going to come with that. We're talking about Top 5 on time, right?
Starting point is 01:43:18 We're talking E. 40, no. We're not going to do that to 40. No, listen, I love 40. We're not doing that, bro. Forty Top 5. Yeah, right. So look, right.
Starting point is 01:43:26 Right. Here, right. Look. Now, even, like, and after that top 5, you still have a list of other niggas. Like Easy E. Yeah. Like DJ Quick.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Yeah. Like Tyler the creator. Yeah, for sure. So I'm saying, like, we put what. What? And E-40 and Nip put it in like the, like the, like the, like the 10? You're trying to put it out. I'm not. I'm kidding 40 in. I'm kidding 40. You know what I'm saying? I, cool, right? So the Nip gets in the top five for you or out the top five?
Starting point is 01:43:54 He's still going to get in the top five for me and I'm going to tell you why, you know what I'm saying? So how can't you in game? Yeah, I'm a tear for sure. Okay. I'm going to tell you why, though. You know what I'm saying? Shout out both of them brothers right there, right? Because they both fired and they could be in the top five, a gang of times over. You know what I'm saying? You feel? But this is my personal top five and why I have. I have him ahead of them, you know what I'm saying? Because once again, like I say, and Kendrick,
Starting point is 01:44:14 I don't know, I might still sneak Kendrick in there because Kendrick do evoke these feelings too and got that emotion, his rap, you know what I'm saying? You call out the E40 or Nip. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the reason why I will put Nip in that top file somewhere, any way of capacity is because he spoke to a generation at a time that really didn't have nobody
Starting point is 01:44:30 speaking for him, you know what I'm saying? He's like on the West Coast. Like, you know, like, so that void was missing from Pock. Like, shout out Kendrick, but he let you know I'm a good kid, mad city. So I'm talking to y'all, but, from a different angle. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:44:42 Shout out game, you know what I'm saying? I came in, I'm talking about my confidence shit, but I'm also trying to bar you niggas to death. So I'm the best rapper alive at the same time. You know what I'm saying? Nip is most of them. Yo, I know you young niggas out there struggling, man, y'all don't understand.
Starting point is 01:44:54 I'm going to teach you about this fly crippling. I'm going to invoke some different thought processes in you, teach you about this Bitcoin, teach you about the eating the right and the owner and bringing the finishes. So, so the totality of who he was, it was way more important to the West than a lot of other niggas. I'm talking more like he opened the door, for a lot of motherfuck to start doing different shit
Starting point is 01:45:12 and got their business mind opened up and doing things that they probably wasn't normally owned. You know what I'm saying? A lot of rappers just coming out, rapping, doing shows. You know what I'm saying? Things of that nature. You was able to pull up on Chris Shaw-Slaunson and see his influence. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:45:23 Like, you don't got none of that from none of these other rappers in their city in their hood that had no influence where you could just pull up, really still, shake his hand, go spend some money with him and do all that. So he was real more important. That's why even when you see him, you know what I mean? In his death, how he brung the whole coast out together because that was a void missing.
Starting point is 01:45:39 You know what I'm saying? Like, damn, we're going to miss this. On the West, we're going to miss this. This is togetherness. He's working with niggins from enemy sections and having him in his camp together and slowly but shortly starting to try to change. Like, that shit is more important. That's the foot on the groundwork that you got to be a part of to really understand.
Starting point is 01:45:55 You know what I'm saying? So for me, that's why I would put him in front of because I'm saying how important he was to the West. Legendary and the music fire too, though. You know what I'm saying? Like we ain't going to act like, Nick Hose ain't got no names and Chris Shawls and Marathons and all them albums. niggas wasn't banging them like niggas is blue laces all that shit on repeat you know what's i'm saying dedication all that shit is on repeat exactly lie to you know of saying
Starting point is 01:46:14 his blueprint got me sitting right here a lot of nixon blueprint of trying to like become entrepreneurs and like bet on their self you know what I'm saying proud to pay and all that type of shit there's a lot of niggas doing that like they like that this nigga sold his own CD for a hundred let me start just trapping my own self trying to sign up and be and be held down I'm gonna do that so I think he was a lot more important to my f*** you know what I'm saying but you just talking strictly music and catalogs then I understand why you don't got him in the top five because his catalog is as big as Kendrick
Starting point is 01:46:42 ain't as biggest gang and his biggest 40 and his biggest quick It's a lot of it, right? Yeah, but it's big but ain't as big as those artists I'm sure. It's crazy too, right? Like, why like I do feel though like Nip is important, right?
Starting point is 01:46:54 Yo, if you just even like just look at like the order of like his albums, bro, it makes you emotional, right? Yeah, very. Because to listen to Milbox money, right? Yeah, man. And then just a few years later, like, you, like, you turn on your phone and play, like, racks in the middle. And he's on, like, a private jet.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He's cubering up. Got the, you seen the growth. Right? Yeah, you watched it. Got the model girl that everybody wants. It's kind of like, yo, this is not the same nigga from mailbox. No, right? You watch the growth.
Starting point is 01:47:26 You feel me, right? And, like, you can even, like, without even just, like, hearing the music, you can, like, watch the growth. You can, like, watch the growth just on the album's titles, right? Yeah. And the covers, right? So, right? So, like, even me, right? Bro, like, I can play no-box money
Starting point is 01:47:45 and relate to it, right? I can play Crenshaw and still gets luck. Feel me right? So, yo, like, you know, like, he's very important, right? And, like, bro, like, if I had had a top six, seven, right? I ain't mad at that. No, look, your opinion is, we ain't mad at that year. That's still respect, even having him in your top ten,
Starting point is 01:48:04 so nobody can't be mad at you for that. It's going to be some, it's going to be a lot. bottom up in the comments that I'd agree. You know what I'm saying? You ain't wrong for that one. His inflowsals was real. He got me to get to New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:14 You know what I was like? So for sure. Yeah, you, man. Yo, play me... Your best song real quick. Oh, there you go. He put it in one spot. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:48:22 Yeah. Sure, it's nothing. Yeah. Yeah, we got to get there. He's going to play his best song right now. I want to know what he's going to play too. That's all. Yeah, me, feel me.
Starting point is 01:48:32 So it's a lot of truth from. I got shit with Big Cass, Spice 1. I got a lot of shit. Listen, right, hey, right, because look, listen. Like, whatever he picked. I'm honest. I'm honest. We want that.
Starting point is 01:48:43 I want you to be honest. So, hey, listen, nigga, so pick your best shit. And I'm going to be honest with you right now, my nigga. If it's trash, say it's trash. Say it's fire. Don't, say it's fire. You know what I'm saying? If his eye, say it's all we want.
Starting point is 01:48:53 We want honesty. That's going to make a motherfucker work harder and do, you know what I mean? Exactly. We ain't mad at that. No. Right. Also, too, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:49:01 The bar is high because you say it next to like get you got it. Sure. Right? No, that's fast. We're going to turn him. I know he ain't going to disappoint you, though. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Shit, we can take it back. Got a record right here, nothing to something. Fitching my nigga, that's how to trick. Ah, okay. All right. Let's see, play it.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Now, probably something else, my nigga. Nah, not, not like, hair, right? Bro, bro, listen, right, so look. Bro, bro, play a hot and shit, nigga. That's the trash. Play your hottest shit, my nigga.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Please come on, bro. No, bro, play your hottest shit, my nigga. Oh, man. Yeah, come on down. Right. Yeah, man. Bro. Bro, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:41 Bro, bro. Bro, I'm a big couple, bro. I'll be out of things. Yeah, man. Free my nigga, shout-out, man. Free my knell's, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:49 Listen, I'm gonna say this. Look, you be honest on your opinion. I ain't, I really wasn't tuned in because my fuck it was tech. Yeah. You put that on. I'm not mad at you. Yeah. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:50:00 I got you. Hold on. For sure. For some hot shit, nigger. I got you. So there you go. Okay. Quit playing with a nigger.
Starting point is 01:50:11 See, see, see, see, we're in, see, see, man. Hey, listen, man, you see, bro, listen, you can tell him for the 10 seconds thing, right? Yeah, it's better. See, what I say, bro, I play your hottest shit, nigga. Yeah, play your hottest shit, man. You play the shit that as you know, man. Come on, man. You know, man.
Starting point is 01:50:27 You don't know. Right, man. We ain't mad at your honesty. You can take criticism. Come on, man. It's a video off of this, right? Yeah, yeah. Video offers and everything, man, you're tuning in.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Make a guitar moves. 86 figures. Okay. Okay. Wait, I'm trying to hear, like Spice Wildeverse, man. He's like Spice Wildeverse, man. He's not a bad talking about. Okay, Spike's wild to go crazy, huh?
Starting point is 01:50:52 For sure. Okay, come on, Spice, come on. Push back. Dang, okay. Hey, OG's still rapping, rapping, though, man. Yeah, yeah. You're hearing. Yeah, set out Spice 1, man.
Starting point is 01:51:05 All, hey, listen. See, Money features Spice 1, man. I'll be real, bro. Come on. I was kind of worried, my, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were fucking with the first one. We ain't mad at that.
Starting point is 01:51:14 You were fucking with the first one. I was gonna worry that. I was gonna worry that first one, did really good for me, though, you know. Ah, okay, probably. Because the artist that was featuring on records from Miami. It was hot, okay.
Starting point is 01:51:24 And it did really good and down south, watch, you know what I'm saying? You got a different vibe, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? Spice One? Really fuck with me. August 10th on book at his concert. No, don't know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:51:36 So, Spice One, Chico, go really with me and love me a lot, you know what's your musical influence, right? Because you have like a, like, you have like an old school feel to you, right? Like, right? Yeah, that's real. I ain't a lot to you, bro. It's a lot, you know, DJ Screw. Little Troy, um, fat, pat, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:51:53 Do or die. Yeah. Um, shit, the click, Beela G 40. You know what I'm saying? Even our older homie BG knockout, you know, as a young nigga. Wait, wait, hold up, huh? Yeah. Knockout and Drake today for my own.
Starting point is 01:52:06 For sure, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Wait, that guy from my Nuddy Blah? Yeah. Bro, listen, bro. I got to get tapped in, man. I just did his podcast three months ago in Vegas, you know what I'm saying? Really?
Starting point is 01:52:17 You don't beat your knockout? For sure, you feel me? Wow. Yeah, so them early influences as a youth grow up in the section, you should like that. So it's a lot, you know what I'm saying? It's not just West Coast. It's a lot. Wow, nigger?
Starting point is 01:52:28 Yeah. See, bro, yo, bro, I have no idea. Yeah. That's crazy. Oh, speaking to speaking to the Nuddy like, I'll be remiss, you feel like if I don't bring up, you know, like the OG man, right? Like, like, Count of Rick Rock, right? Yeah, son of my nigga, what kind of Rick Rock, man?
Starting point is 01:52:44 Right? So, so when you seen like, like, like, the video, man, where Contraq said, hey, right? Because how we met is this, right? Yeah. So I was doing like the 600 fight, right? Mm-hmm. I was like, I was commentating, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:56 I was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? And then the OG called beef came up to me, right? Mm-hmm. And say, yo, listen, you're like, you remind me of, of, like, my nephew. Okay. Right. And when I watch, right, because he's not even like on the internet, right?
Starting point is 01:53:11 Not for real. Right. And he, like he said when I watch from afar, right? I don't like, like, like how like these niggas are now trying to like, like, kind of like, you know, like, go after you. Go at you. Yeah. Right. And, like, close you in because they feel like you are here alone, right?
Starting point is 01:53:32 Mm-hmm. So, bro, I got you, feel me? Real talk. And then, like, like, like, is he asking, yo, like, who want to meet? I say, yo, listen, I, listen, I have a favorite YouTuber called Compton Rick Rock, right? But I just been so terrified until I reach out of him because I just felt like he probably won't, like, you know, right? Straight that. He said, man, what?
Starting point is 01:53:57 Yo, does my brother? Right? He caught Rick Rock, right? Like, we talked. and he told me, yo, listen, like, like, before meeting you, I have a perception of,
Starting point is 01:54:08 you're just some, some, some, you're on some shit, but after meeting you, bro, yo, you got different. You feel me? Right?
Starting point is 01:54:15 And he said, yo, listen, I got you, right? And these d'nets touch you, you feel me with you? Real talk. So when you seen that,
Starting point is 01:54:22 did you even, like, know the story behind it? I didn't know the story behind it at first, but then, like, you know, like, Rick Roy, that's my brother, man,
Starting point is 01:54:28 so we talked about a lot of shit and he was explaining it to me, like, you know, And he has real stand-up, dude. A lot of dudes get his internet persona mixed up with who he really is. You know what I mean? And so, you know, that's why we say, like, you know, that the shit be entertainment.
Starting point is 01:54:39 So he understands the algorithm of entertainment and how to get his views sometime. And that's why sometimes he'll be like, you know what, I'm going to take this shit down because then he'd be like, I don't feel that way no more. You know what I'm saying? We're talking about a dude who went stomped down in his street career, you know what I'm saying, did everything, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:54:53 under the sun and stay solid that his time came home and trying to do something positive, you know what I'm saying? So when you get somebody like that on your side, it's always good because, you know, he's not here to be fake with you. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, you know, besides the jokes and the back and forth, people do the internet, man, I'm talking about just outside the cameras and being around them,
Starting point is 01:55:12 that's a solid nigga, man, real good, homie, man, real genuine motherfuckerucker. So I knew once y'all linked that you probably would see that on your own. And again, you were a different perspective like that. You know, these niggas saying that, like, I've been around, bro. I don't look like, you know what I'm saying that? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what?
Starting point is 01:55:25 You know what? You know what? You know? You know what? Not, right? Because, look, because my first time, like, you know, like, like, like,
Starting point is 01:55:32 like, you know, bro, I told him straight up. Bro, like, you, bro, no, I see, like, why niggas is terrified to you. Bro, the nigga built like a mall, like, like, like, like, like a warm machine. Right? The nigga, like, just like, like,
Starting point is 01:55:46 like, what the fuck? I say, yo, this thing is built like a war machine, right? Mm-hmm. That's crazy. Yeah, rock being that gym. He'd be working out, eating healthy, you know what I'm saying? But he really don't, he's not no bully type nigga anyway. He ain't trying to bully
Starting point is 01:55:59 mu-uh. So for him, he tried to keep it in the realm's entertainment. But if a mother-a-jure, he'll jump out the realm, he'll jump out there with you, if that's what they called for, but nine times out of ten, you know what I'm saying? He's going to try to defuse it so that he don't have to, man. Niggas don't be trying to be going back and forth to jail, especially over and no internet niggas. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, man. Don't make a
Starting point is 01:56:17 nigga have to do this shit to you, man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, man, man, calm that down and keep it, keep it respectful. But now, Rick Rock, man. That's that's my brother, man. He's one of one of them dudes out here, man, that, uh, that, uh, support a nigger career, support all our career, support his as well, just like we support is. You know what I'm saying? Like, he definitely, man, he ain't no mystery, nigga.
Starting point is 01:56:34 He's really from over there. At all. Listen, man. You know, look what I'm saying? Now, listen. Listen, and he's solid. See, you're like, this is why you're like, I like, listen, man, I encourage, bro. You know, just have conversations, right?
Starting point is 01:56:46 Right? Right? Because I never would have thought that he would have liked me. Yeah. Because just from, just him being like a no nonsense, straight up, like. After y'all interview, he spoke highly of you to me as well. Oh, where? Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:57 He spoke holly to me about you as well. You know what I'm saying? Just like, you know, he's into the same shit you're into, you know? So, like, for him to be able to learn some of the shit that you know that you do as far as like that. And you him like, so, like, trust me. I know, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. It's genuine.
Starting point is 01:57:13 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, right? Yo, what's crazy too, right? Yo, would I, like, see like some, like, some online, like weird or something about, oh, flaco getting extorted. Mm. Listen, look, right? Listen, look.
Starting point is 01:57:28 I've never gotten extorted, and I've been in L.A. down for two years, right? Listen, right? Look, right? Look, right? Do I, like, like, hair, right? Do I, like, you know, film me, right? And have some, like, hood friends, right? You feel me? Who, like, for example, they get booked in L.A.? I got, you feel me, like, bill money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Right, right? You feel me, right? 10-piece hair and there, 5K hair and there, right? If I'm the righteous, hey, bro, hair and love. You from just love? Straight in. Yeah, you feel me, yeah, right? I've done it, right?
Starting point is 01:57:58 But that's not extortion. Doesn't mean just fuck with niggas genuinely. You know, right, love. Which is why. Yeah. They are dudes from willing to say, yo, brother, he's not like the niggas that they're trying to pay him to me.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Yeah, for real. Yeah, for real. Man, man. But, hey, bro, we've been here for two hours and 45 minutes. Right? Yeah, I appreciate you. Man, hey, listen, bro.
Starting point is 01:58:17 What's next, man? My lot. What's coming up, man? It's a lot going on, man. So what's next, man? I got a record with Stunning Man O2 Dropping real soon You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:58:26 You know what's called Dangerous I co-produced it with my nigga Right in the building Okay You know what I'm saying I got the new studio Chico Studios open
Starting point is 01:58:34 You know what Like like a podcast studio A recording studio? It's a recording studio And an event space You know what I'm saying Oh that's don't where Yeah it's in downtown LA
Starting point is 01:58:43 Oh that's hard my nigga Yeah yeah You know So you got to spend your little money I can't It's not really open to a lot of Just you know Everybody
Starting point is 01:58:51 You got to spend your back to come with me, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? So my podcast and on business is a, for the, come, come back, resume, you know what I'm saying? Have it on there, man. You know, I got you, I got you, you know, I got you.
Starting point is 01:59:03 You know, I'm saying, you know, clothing and things like that. I got some clothing. Yeah, man. Also for you too. That's why I asked for your size. I got to send on business merch for you. Yeah, that's your fucking. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:59:11 So we got more music, more merch, things like that, more shows, and a lot of shit, you know what I'm saying, you know, acting as well, you know, so. Oh, where, when? I'm actually on the TV show rap shit with Issa Rae. Really? Yeah. Oh, well, this is a so-called rap shit with Issa Ray?
Starting point is 01:59:28 Yeah, episode four. You feel what I got a khaki suit on. I'm an extra. I walk down the street, you know what I'm saying, and do a few hand gestures and things like that. You see, wait, hey, man, wait. Yo, how do y'all be getting in these movies, right? Because, listen, bro, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:59:44 You're trying to get in that. Yeah. Bro, listen, yo, I've been here for two years down there, right? You know what I'm on my scene now? I don't lie to you. I don't lie to you. Like, you know, like, you know, it's an NDA on this, but I don't know how long it's going to drop, but I'm going to enjoy badass music video as well, acting as well. Really?
Starting point is 02:00:00 Yeah, so, you know, hopefully I don't get, you know, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? You know, but that's for no jumper, you know, so, yeah. All right, man. Yeah, Kay. Hey, what's next, Gigi? Man, we still working, man. Like I say, man, I got a battle coming up in Boston.
Starting point is 02:00:14 My God, Marv won versus me. We're going down on King of the Dot. It's a KOTD and TCBL takeover battle league collaboration that they got going on. So that's going down August 24th. We're going to be in Boston. But as I've been telling everybody, man, 8-8-24, man. Lumagody. I'm dropping my album.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Al-Lumagadi, man. We got Sue Surf on there. We got R.J. We got Bino, man. We got PC on there. We got my nigga Papa Chops on there. We got Peezy. My nigga the bully, drummer.
Starting point is 02:00:44 You know what I'm saying? Like, my niggas is on there. We're working. A lot of the videos is out on YouTube. right now. Another day, another night is on YouTube. Mo Ed and Hook is on YouTube. Is it? It's on YouTube. We just drop obvious. We're going to drop greatness, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:00:55 I got a lot of work that's already dropped on YouTube from this album. This album, you know, we've been working on it for years. I'm going to get my niggas a shout-out though. Jay Nari. Larry making all the hits they produced this month, top to bottom. My nigga, Jay Wavy was a part of it as well, and DJ Just 100. You know what I'm saying? And we were just in the studio work.
Starting point is 02:01:13 I've been doing this for some years, man. So, man, run the numbers up. Letter to the Block is out as well. another video that's on there. I did a lot of videos. When you get time, get a party, I make sure the niggins send you all the links and shit. But 8, 824, all platforms. So we talk to Spotify, Apple, iTunes, title,
Starting point is 02:01:27 type in Gichi Yadi and Loma Gadi. He's going to pop up just download. That's all I ask. Other than that, man, we're just working, man. You know what I'm man? Yeah. Man, hey, listen, man, listen, this was a great interview. It was a great conversation for me, man.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Right? Man, appreciate you, flock. Yeah, man. Hey, bro, listen. Bro, listen. See, listen, man. See, bro, listen. like folks, listen, like, folks don't know, bro, I love to have crime.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Yo, he, listen, like, it's, like, he's shocked me too, right? Right? Right. Yeah. Listen, because I've been known, bro, that you were, like, an intellectual. Yeah. But to truly, like, sit down with you, bro, and talk to you, bro. And truly see, bro, like, you were really one of them once, my nigga, I.
Starting point is 02:02:04 That's right you, my nigga, for real. Oh, too. Hey, hey, listen, too, listen. For Riot TV. Yeah. Hey, listen, bro. Tell one of these bitch-ass podcasting niggas. Can rain.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I say no mom. I got you. We're going to find somebody for you. You feel me? I'm finding somebody for you. I got you. I got you. I got somebody for you.
Starting point is 02:02:22 I got somebody for you. Ain't no ducking at two. There ain't no ducking. You can't run. We're going to do it right here in LA. We fucking ran. We're going to put private event inside. No jumper.
Starting point is 02:02:29 A couple people you versus him. We're going to get that done. We can make that happen. All right, man. Folks, like, subscribe. Listen, Ryan TV. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:02:37 All right. It's a little. Peace out, man. Yeah.

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