No Jumper - Glasses Malone on Diddy Lawsuit, Fabolous Anklet Jewelry, State of Hip Hop & More

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:06 The Sharp Tame. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. And today, I don't think he need any introduction because everybody knowing, man, you know, real L.A. native, really mashing for his ration. We got glasses Malone in the building today. How you feeling, man?
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm cooling, man. Everything cool. How was your morning? How'd your morning start? Man, I should have started with this text. Yeah. I didn't even know we rescheduled to today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:38 The text came in the morning, Mike back too far. It's my name of Mike, yeah. So what about there? A little bit better. That's better. Okay, don't cut that out. That's player. That's player.
Starting point is 00:00:50 No, so it started because I didn't know that, you know, they rescheduled for today. Nobody told me. And so it was just, it was dope. I got up. I didn't even go. I was supposed to get a haircut and I didn't go. I was like, I need to be on time. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:01:05 My whole thing about getting older is being on time. Yeah. I don't really want to play with nobody else time. Right. I don't know why that is, but it didn't got way more serious. So it's whole promo run for Cancel These Nets and visiting people and politicking with people on these cameras. It's just been about being on time. So I just wanted to be on time.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I ended up coming here about 12 minutes early. Yeah. So that was good. Well, I always say, you know, time is everything. Like, you can't get that back. I don't care if it's 10 minutes. I don't care if it's a second, 60 seconds. You can't never get it back.
Starting point is 00:01:43 So, you know, I've always, as I've gotten older, I felt like, you know, spend your time wisely. You know what I'm saying. So maybe that's what it's about. Yeah, you're just trying to spend your time wisely, you know. And not waste nobody else's. True. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:55 I don't want to have y'all sitting around waiting for me. You know what I mean? Like, nah, I'll be here. So that's just where you're at. Tell me a little bit about to cancel these nuts. Tell me a little bit about that. I heard you speak about that. No, just the attitude.
Starting point is 00:02:07 You know, like the West, the West used to lead the country in attitude. It was the wildest. You know what I mean? Wild West? Yeah, yeah, the wild, wild West. The police couldn't grab the wrist too hard without us, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:22 going off intense and stuff. Yeah. I feel like a lot of the, over the last maybe 20 years, we didn't adopt it everybody else's kind of subdueness. You know what I mean? A lot of things. have kind of calmed down.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And it's like, nah, we still got to lead the way when it comes to this. I was going to say, because I've been in L.A. living here probably like the last three and a half months. They trip.
Starting point is 00:02:46 No, no, no. They trip. The streets are consistent. Streets is consistent. Yeah, but the representation to the rest of the world of our street urban culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I feel like we haven't did a great job of people realizing that we still are. Yeah. So, Counsel These Nuts is just that attitude reintroduced again to people And, you know, this is a whole generation of the kids that never got to see Dr. Dre like I did when I was 10, 11, 12, and Snoop Dog, and they didn't see that. I mean, some of these kids was just born, you know, 20 years ago. We're talking about 2010.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Right. 2003, 2005. You know what I mean? They didn't see Dr. Dre and Snoop. They didn't really get to see the West in his heyday. And that's kind of to me why you hear a lot of these artists. I heard greedy, Sadat I told three Greedo, but I heard him say, like, who was BattleCats? Like, because Battlecat, he's a little baby when Battlecat doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And they didn't really get to see how the West put on for the world. So it's about reintroducing that energy, you know what I mean? So people can see how the West get down. How long have you been doing music? Professionally, 15 years now. That's my 15th season. You know, if I'm not mistaken, the first time I heard you, I want to say was back in like maybe 080-09.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I think you had did a joint on a video game. called Midnight Club, LA. Yeah, shout out the Static Selector. Static Selected, and y'all had did, it was actually the intro to the South Central expansion. That's true. And it's crazy because Static was so far ahead on that wave. I didn't even really realize who Static Selector was at that time.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Like, I was still just very much a crib at that time. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't really, all I knew was street rappers and guys who had other songs that I liked. So I didn't really realize hip hop, behind the scenes with those type of producers and that type of mind. It's funny because I just hit that a month ago.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It was like, what up, Static? He was like, what up, G? And it was just, I didn't really get a chance to get his number, but I was calling him to thank him because I didn't understand it back then what he was doing for me. He just recently talked to him? Yeah, but I didn't really get a chance
Starting point is 00:04:50 to even go further because I was doing three things. But for sure, after I hop off this podcast, I'm going to remind myself to hit him back again and sending him my number so I could thank him. Yeah. Because he introduced me into a lot of folds and waves and different people. that like street urban culture from the outside,
Starting point is 00:05:05 that ain't a part of it, that live in the suburbs, that live in overseas. And, you know, those type of guys have interest to those audiences, and that's important. Not everybody, you know, especially back then, like, you know, just up and coming, just moving. If you ain't got a big ass, super huge ass following, was getting on video games.
Starting point is 00:05:25 That's hard to do, bro, to get your music on a video game. If you ain't got like this super-ass motion, you know what I'm saying, to where you've known worldwide and they had no choice but to know your joint on there for them to have y'all feature that expansion
Starting point is 00:05:40 or whatever they had put on the game at the time, that shit was crazy, man. Yeah, but I've been blessed this whole time. Like, my story in L.A. is unique. You know, I grew up in Compton and watched my whole life. My mom and dad broke up when I was younger. My mom kept her house in Compton
Starting point is 00:05:56 since she went to the Fizz the first time. My dad lived and watched my whole life. So I've been back and forth able to get this great experience culture all the whole time. Yeah. And so the streets, I'm gonna be wrong, the streets don't love nobody, but they always been okay to me.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Yeah. You know what I mean? The coldest names, you know what I mean? The greatest names in the history of gangbanging, like those are people to me that I recognize and call friends and people that I admire, you know what I mean? I'm up with. Like I love all of them. I feel like they're, you know, the ones that represent well, I like that.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So it's always been great. And the same for hip hop. When I got into the business, I had songs on Mad No Seven. I had a song right now produced by Scott Storidge. I had, I've been on the GTA games, a song with me in Problem. I had two songs on that. I had songs with Static Selection. You have been, yeah, because I was like Static Selected, that one was, people don't even know that one was years ago.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's not even, yeah. Not even knowing, like I said, like, not even knowing, because I'd never played the game. Right. By the time 2003 happened, I was off video games, two, one, I, when I'm hustling, I'm off video games completely. Yeah. I mean, like, them times now, I'm sitting in a spot selling that shirm. I'm not playing a game. I'm counting his coin, you know, trying to get the price.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So to watch this whole kind of development of video games now where it's like, you know, people socially interact with their friends. No, by the time I stopped playing video games, it wasn't no connected to no mother anybody. You really just played at the house. You just played at the house. You know what I mean? Fights used to happen to get the house over that shit.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Real squabble. Ain't no screaming over no headphones. I've seen them. So to watch how to do that. development of all that time has been dope. And that was my point. I think the streets been good to me. You know, they've been okay to me. You know what I mean? It's been happened to me like everybody else, but I see the positive side. Same with the music business. It been really good to me, dog. I ain't really had no complaints. It was me not putting the most effort, so I ain't really got
Starting point is 00:07:48 no complaints. So do you feel like you having certain characteristics was what was able to open the door from, because let's be real. Like you said, if it would be gang-banging, they look they get stuck in it. Like, and they don't they don't leave it. You know, even if they have a talent or something that could push them forward, you know, they're really kind of just stay in their box because that's what they're comfortable with.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know what I'm saying? So to see you, you pretty much said, you stepped outside the box, like you were able to go with different people. That's probably what elevated your career. I think it's luck. So I think it's two things, right? I think it's luck and being sober.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I ain't never drank nothing. I ain't never smoked none of the day in my life. So I'm always aware. So certain people that another person might pass, I shook that hand. Like when you see when I'm walking in, the man that's right there. I remember them last two people.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm going to shake the man hand. The man that's over here behind engineering. You got back up to go shake his head. Yeah. One day going to be running it. Yeah. That's just a hustling mentality.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You treat everybody like you got some sick. It's sad. You treat everybody. You treat the doorman. A lot of the doorman that I was shaking hands at when I first got in the business in 2007, them is running labels. And them not remember that I shook them hands.
Starting point is 00:09:01 everybody deserves some respect, even if you think their job ain't that important. And that's always worked out for me, but I think it's a lot of luck because a lot of it happens, especially the way they be talking about these, hear these stories about some of these execs, and I look at how like Mace and Puff changed his life and it's not talking crazy about this. I'm looking at myself like, I don't get what Cuzz did to you, he changed your life and made you a millionaire. If one day you can get up on a stage Cuzz and be bashing this stuff,
Starting point is 00:09:31 Bro, I really don't understand what type of man you in. I wouldn't want to with you because you're giving me a preview already of what's to come if I go with you. You can do that like that. Huh? And he changed your life. I don't give a . What's going on.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Yeah. I don't get that for a second. And I feel you on that, bro. And so where I'm mad with it is like really keeping that. I was having this conversation with Charlemann on the Breakfast Club and I was telling him, he was like, man, make glasses, do you get tired of being street? I'm like being street is about being a man. How you handle yourself as being a man.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Even once I walk in this room, shaking cuz' hand is the streetest thing I could do. Treating everybody, I walk into PJs, bro. We'll walk to the Pinkstone Cubs. Yeah, I know this, I know these, niggas, this. But guess what? These little things one day, gonna be this. And that's how you treat people. So I think I've always walked it that way.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You know what I mean? I don't know who is who. You know what I mean? It's easy to walk in this morning. They got him here. Yeah. Somebody might walk right past because. You know, that's why even like when I be here around everybody, always treat everybody
Starting point is 00:10:38 equal and fair like I with him. If there's an interview I can bring them in on, that might not. They'd be like, damn, it might not even make sense for them because they're like, damn, Sharp you're already doing your thing. Why are you going to drag me? Why are you going to bring me in? It's because, bro, if we're around, I'm here to help. We got to help one another, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:54 And like you said, I don't know who going to come up on or get into what tomorrow. You might remember how I f***. with him and what's cool with him. How to everybody come pick me out, want to go, you know what I'm saying? Make a couple million with me or give me a business venture because it was so cool with them. You know what I mean? Relationships, everything, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah, and minus, like I said, but the streets teach you diplomacy, especially if you're hustling. If you hustling, the streets going to teach you diplomacy. Like, because you just can't get rich with your own home boys. As a Crip, you can't just sell drugs to Crips. You ain't going to make no money. You ain't going to make no money. So I need to sell hamburgers to vegans too. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:30 Everybody got to go politic and everybody community in. I just brought that same mentality. I'm all the greatness that being street can bring you. And it's my job to keep, you know, blazing that trail like an iced tea. You know what I mean? Like the before me to me that were hell of street and then they changed their lives through this music business through hip-hop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's my job. What do you, do you feel like maybe you can help me, you know, say, dissected? I mean, do you feel like gangster rap and street-ups? rap's kind of different because, you know, you hear gangster rap say, you know, you might pop it to do something. But then, you know, back in the day, you had, like, Ice Cube that was putting out music. I feel like he put out music for the streets. It was a different type of lingo. You feel like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Do you feel like it's a difference? Because some people probably say, well, sharp, there's no difference. You know, the street and gangster, it's all the same. But I feel like there's a separation in it a little bit. Good and bad. Good and bad. Ice Cube is really, really great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You know what I mean? Other than that you can be shallow. You know what I mean? It could just be the whole conflict between men. Right. Like, I hear a lot of people judging a lot of the drill rap. Oh, you know, it's just murder rap or this is just a serial killer. It's not, man.
Starting point is 00:12:40 These little kids are talking about being at war with each other. These communities are at war with each other. But somebody wants their demise and people don't respect the war. But they respect these crackers beefing with each other. They respect Russia and Ukraine killing each other. They'll respect, you know, they'll understand why, you know, Israel and Hamas is beefing. You understand that.
Starting point is 00:13:04 You ain't calling them cereal kill. And some people will. But I'm saying it's hard to put respect on why somebody is having a disagreement. It's harder to go in and really care about why these people are fighting and decide that you want to solve it. That's harder. And that's kind of why I find myself in. I'm not the kind of person that's judging why the Chicago brothers is beefing. I'm trying to figure out what's the solution.
Starting point is 00:13:27 How do we get these n' stop? Why do you have so much time? Why not you're at work? Maybe these people need opportunity. So I think when you hear Ice Cube, you hear it at the pinnacle of gangster rap, a street rap. You know what I mean? You hear somebody who's hell of aware of everything in this community. Who's running a liquor store?
Starting point is 00:13:47 You know what I'm saying? Who's oppressing what person in which corner? Who's taking what to what state to make money? You hear somebody that aware versus you hear, you know, a young kid, like a young nigga coming out of different places talking about, it's a shallow. Not to mention these niggas high as a mo' You know, they don't all kinds of dope. The drugs are different these days of what niggas is using.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It ain't a niggins just going and hitting a wet daddy real quick. Yeah, it's right now. We talked about earlier, you got niggas out here smoking full blown bath sauce. And medication. Really taking medication, like psychotropic medication. So I think what you hear with a lot of those guys, and I respect that as gangster rap or street rap
Starting point is 00:14:27 as the same too, I just think it's not as great because that mind is not as aware. It's not as aware. Even though they was the same age when Cube started, Cube is a sober nigga. Cube is really, you know, listen to his content. That nigga was so, he was putting me up on shit.
Starting point is 00:14:45 That was your air is what you're saying. That was your air. I'm nine to ten when he comes out. You know what I mean? By itself. Your mind is fresh. It's young. He's telling me about the certain people running in liquor stores.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah. You know, who's oppressing what? Who's holding the finances and opportunity back from my specific community? Right. So he was hella aware for his age. And now we're looking at these kids who kind of dealing with, they medicating to deal with the same problems. So they're just giving you the shallow look of it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Man, this person over here in this community is trying to kill me, and I do whatever I've got to do to stay alive, and I'm proud of staying alive. So it's just a little bit more shallow. It's just not as good because it's not as aware. It's not as conscious of what he was talking about. But I think of it as the same. These kids, I feel like, man, they're treating wars with each other like cabgun fights. Yeah, like it ain't.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But that's what happened when you take those drugs to suppress your conscience. You know what I mean? When you suppress your conscience, you suppress your everything internally, your soul. You know, a lot of that, especially those, what's the shit, heroin is, all that, all the medicines and shit, that's like doing the same thing. Oxicon and all that. Yeah, what was that called? That's an opium. Yeah, they're opiate.
Starting point is 00:15:57 When you suppress your soul, you're looking out, big dog, opiate. You know what? You're taking all that. That shit suppress your soul in your conscience. You're not as aware of all your actions. That's why these, man, I used to go to jail in the 2000s, man, I was fucking up all the time, and I'd be watching niggas be cold niggas crying. Because like, now ain't no drugs in here.
Starting point is 00:16:15 These niggas is aware that they life now was in trouble. But the whole time, they were animals on the streets. Some of the coldest niggas I knew that was on the streets, go to jail and start crying. Because now ain't no dope in here to help deal with all the seasons. And now you're aware. You're like, hold up. I did what? Y'all trying to give me how much time?
Starting point is 00:16:36 You know what I mean? And then that's them offensive linemen numbers. That shit just look different. I don't understand. And maybe you can help me because you from that air. Like, it was never, I mean, I get we live in the era of, you know, the drug user versus when we were coming up, it was a drug dealer. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:57 So it was drug dealing music being talked. It just seems like the music today is very junkish. I mean, I'm trying to put it to a perspective of, like him, say, it's very junkish. Like, it was never cool. Like, if a nigga did drugs back in the day, he tried to keep his shit on the DL because he didn't want nobody to roast him or cap him
Starting point is 00:17:20 or what, treat him differently. Because you would be treated a little bit differently. Now it's like, as a nigga that don't do it, you outnumbered. You know what I'm saying? Like straight up, like, man, what you mean, bro? You don't pop these. Aw, nigga, you want to be in the party. I'd have been to parties with niggins.
Starting point is 00:17:38 As soon as somebody starts pulling out any, like, I can be at a party, drinking, smoking, I'm cool with all that, right? That shit I grew up on. So as a niggas start pulling out pills, pulling out coke, start pulling out any type of shit. It's time for me to go, bro. Party's over to me. Why is it because you know.
Starting point is 00:17:55 why the dynamic and the vibe is about to change. I'm not about to be on under that. So their party's about to go to a whole other level. You know what I'm saying? So I just dismiss myself, bro. It's crazy to see. What's weird about the music that you're talking about is... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So it's not as simple as being a junkie, right? What it is is... So even back in the day, niggas was flossing achieving money, wealth, success, right? So they was like, okay, I'm hustling, so I got this much money. What I think I hear, because again, I'm sober all the time, is I hear people flossing how much they're spending on drugs. Like, this is how well I am bawling now. Look, I can blow off this money.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I could pour five ounces a lien inside of a 20-ounce soda. This is how much money I have. I can recklessly misuse this amount of lien, you feel me, in one serving. So it's the same flossing, but achieving it is really unique how it changed from then to the same. now, but, I mean, long as niggas flossing, I guess that's how they feel. $1,000 for five ounces. They're like, it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I remember, nigga, you get that shit from the car, you get a script, nigga, $16. For a whole $16. And I'm mad that none of us is getting the money. I prefer it at least when, okay, if the community is going to be on drugs, at least some black people is making the money.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Now, the community is on drugs and nobody making no goddamn money because we don't even got this shit. We don't got this shit. Pharmaceuticals do. Yeah, they all. All the white folks get, they cut us out again. Cut us out again.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Man, I met a dude one time, right? I don't mean to get off subject of, but I met a dude one time. He was sitting at the bar, and, like, he was doing it. Man, this dude had a big ass bag of Coke on a baby. He was rich, bro. Rich as hell. And he was like, you know, I got a, he was like, man, I got a person that just, man, I got doctors make this shit for me.
Starting point is 00:19:48 He's got some scientists to make all this shit for me. I just pay this. He got the real shit. Yeah, he just go and get him made. Yeah, go get him. You know, motherfuckers is that invested into where putting their money into a full-blown motherfucker scientist to have their drugs produced for them. It's that serious.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's that serious, bro. But you know what, to be honest, I ain't even mad at him because everybody cutting shit with fett and all these days. That nigga, he don't want his heart to blow up. He's trying to fuck some bitches and do some blow. Exactly. And it's, again, man, I used to think about the same thing when niggies used to go on burns, you know, make insurance.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Yeah. Like a PCP, it's like, this is a real chemical. You feel like that affected the music game a little bit? Sure? Nah. Because niggas was smoking wed daddies. Sherman Himmonsleys. No, I just think of...
Starting point is 00:20:35 For sure. I remember. That shit smelled different, dog. I think, I think, I think poor people can consistently have been medicated to deal with the circumstances of being deprived of opportunities. And all other bullshit they got to deal with. You know what I mean? So I think that hasn't changed.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because niggas was on drugs back then, but again, you could floss your wealth in other ways. Now it's about, like I said, it's about saying how much you're spending on this. Like, I could afford to waste $1,000 on the 20-ounce soda. That's how much money I make. And it's just a weird thing, but, you know, if nobody's saying it, it looked crazy. But that's also why we be on niggas. That's what cancel these nuts, that whole attitude is about.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Like, man, we're not fucking with you junkie-ass niggins. You niggas ain't tough to us. All that high-power shit, niggas talking, you don't even want to deal with this. Do it sober. You want to show me something, nigga? Come to get cracking sober, nigga. You getting high and shit, thinking you're tough, I ain't riding.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You know, shout to the Brick Baby. Because Brick Baby was said earlier, he was like, I can't ever respect the nigga that slides high. He said, niggins slide sober. He said, niggum smokes some weed. He was like, but to be like high, bro,
Starting point is 00:21:43 he's like, if you got to do that type of shit, you kind of use a... You know what I'm saying? If you got to get faded to go make a move or slide on somebody, it ain't really in you. I'm gonna tell, I would tell Brick like niggas told me.
Starting point is 00:21:55 what's wrong with you? What's wrong with us? How are we doing this? How we participate? So we probably are problems. If you ain't how you doing this like how I was, it's just you're probably the problem. But it is a different thing, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:12 And it's something to listen to with niggies. But I look at it as the same. I look at all the gangster rap as the same. I just think it's Cuban's the pinnacle of what it can sound like because he's so aware of the community that we call the hood. You know, where. But then you have those guys who are more, the conversation is a little bit more shallow. It's just a conflict amongst men.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You know, there's no depth to it. It's provided no debt. But they also kind of, you know, high, drunk, dealing with it, young. 18 year old today, 18 back with you, was 18. No. It ain't even 18 when I was 18. No, it's different, bro. Like I said, when we was younger, you know, a nigga that was like 16, you would have thought
Starting point is 00:22:50 he was 20 by the way, carried himself. If you look at Marvin Gannon Air, them niggas look 30. When they're 18. 18 years old. These niggas look, 37 or something. Taco meeting. They had jobs for four years, four years of pension. So I think the population is getting younger.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And as a society, we're putting less pressure on, you know, teenagers to grow up. But, you know, some people think it's cool, but I don't know. I mean, I don't think it's great at all. I think it's a mistake. I think we have to start putting responsibility on teenagers really early because that's that developmental time when they start screwing up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 They start feeling. If you have a kid, I watch people with kids and shit, their kids get 14, 15, think they know everything. First time you think you know more than me, you need a job. Hey, I think it stopped. And I know people frown upon it. But I think it stopped when you were not allowed to whip your kid's ass no more. Like, for real.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Like, when I got my ass with, bro, from certain things, I never did that shit again. And if I did it again, I knew I couldn't blame nobody but myself. Yeah. And you had it coming. Yeah, I had it coming. It's too many excuses made. I don't think it's, it doesn't make them for a better person these days, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Like, discipline is always needed. You could throw a motherfucker in a jail cell and they just, they just do their years. They come out with no type of rehabilitation, no type of skills, no type of nothing. You know what I'm saying? Sure. Like, it is bullshit, bro. But that goes into just thinking the kid is supposed to understand everything you explain it. Sometimes fears need it as a parent.
Starting point is 00:24:27 When we're lazy, bro, we only go to, you know what we do? Well, we just teach the kids that'll listen. No, go grab the one that ain't listening. He might need it. No, not even ask fucking just some hands-on attention, like, and just trying to teach them and empower them and give them knowledge. You know what I'm saying? Being a parent, and this is something I don't have kids, right?
Starting point is 00:24:48 I didn't have kids. being a parent for sure I could tell you with somebody watching it one of the key elements missing and being a parent today is your kids are not scared of you and sometimes to a 14, 15 year old mind
Starting point is 00:25:03 my opinion, now again a motherfucker argue with it because they got kids and then they have the emotions of having kids but being a child, I was a child once there were certain things my mom wouldn't have been able to explain to me at 14 and 15. My brain wasn't developed enough and I have, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:19 I was a great student and could think and read, you know, all these things. But it was certain things that a 14-year-old mind couldn't digest intellectually. So she used fear to make sure this is not a decision you should make. You know what I mean? And that kept me from making that decision until my mind was smart enough to understand why I shouldn't be making it. But the belief that you could explain everything to a 14-year-old mind, you know what I mean, is probably a bit disingenuous.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Right. Well, let's look at it here, right? Back in the day, you know, your mom or, you know what I'm saying, whoever was around you wanted, they were actually being a parent. These days, people want to be their kid's friend, and it doesn't work like that. Like, it's cool to have a good relationship with your kid, but you've got to stay a parent.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Stop trying to be their best friend all the time. You're trying to be their friend. Like, you got to be their parent because they're going to need you to be that. It's cool. You know what I'm saying? They need that guidance, man. Don't worry about if they like you all the time. A lot of parents worry,
Starting point is 00:26:22 oh, I don't want to do that because I don't want them to be upset with me. Hey, they're going to be upset a lot of motherfucking times. But you know what? If that stops they love for you, there's something wrong with them. Because they're going to see as they grow that, you know, hey, damn, my parents kind of did this for a reason
Starting point is 00:26:38 or the person that looked over me always showed me tough love for a reason because the world's harder, it's harder, bro, than an ass who are up and all. Way harder. It's way harder than an ass. You know what I'm saying? If that asswopin stops that kid from going and fucking off their entire life
Starting point is 00:26:55 in an aspect of where this asswap is only going to hurt for a while, a little bit, two minutes. Guess what? You can go do something that could fucking hurt your life for a lifetime and you can't change it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So if we don't start teaching them small, bro, they ain't never going to learn when something big come hit him in the face. That shit's going to bust them up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Tell their ass up. And it's way harder out your parents' house than it is inside. Yeah. I'm gonna fuck the hardest parent house can't fuck with outside. Outside come with bullets. Outside come with prison.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Yeah. It's just levels. You know, I'm not saying cold clock your fucking kid. I'm not saying go and, you know, because I got kids. And I'm, do I whip my kids? No, I don't have to because they list and they know I'm not playing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:41 There's a, there's a line that man. My kids know, hey, I'm not playing. You know, so I don't have to whip me. But when your kid know they're going to play you and they can push you, they're going to see how far they can push your buttons. Well, there's a relationship between the father and the mother. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. My mom pretty much had to punch my lights out once or twice for me to get the point. My dad, I knew that nigga would kill me. So it's like it was going to be a certain thing. I was going to do around. I love that nigga, man. I love that nigga, man. But I know he wasn't playing, and I wasn't about to be playing with him.
Starting point is 00:28:12 So, again, I agree. Like, that's the blessing of being a father. You feel like it didn't help you play. Now you don't play out in the world. I'm not playing with nobody. You know what I mean? A little bit. Because you was taught that as a grown, hey, my daddy didn't play out.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It just, you're inherited naturally. I really do believe Glass and said, we'll move on. Like, you really are a product of your environment. Hands there. You know what I'm saying? And your environment starts inside your house. It starts in your household. And don't get me wrong, I'm very much a product of, like my father, like a good boy,
Starting point is 00:28:43 like my mother, recipe to Olivia. I am a product of moon, my older home. Pluck, tone, boo, man, shady. All my old homies, demon, fimmie fats. All the old homies, Tone, motherfucking blackjack. I'm a product of them too. I'm a product of all the shit. Them niggas instilled in me and say,
Starting point is 00:29:02 hey man, this is what we're not doing. And to this day, all of those lessons, just like the ones inside the house with my mom and my father, right, the ones I learned outside of the community is just as important. I'm like one of them niggas. I ain't no hyper-emotional nigger. I'm not fin to do all that the jaw-jacking with you and all. Let's get down.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Even right now as an adult, let's get out. We're going to solve it right now. I'm not to, I'm going to come find you, I'm going to terrorize you, jealous, worth it. It's a lot of things that I think in my mind that I could rationalize that a lot of men can't. Because to teach a lesson and for it to be known, don't play with me. I'm not going to play. I'm just not going to play with people like that. I'm not with none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I don't got time for that. Like I'll let you say shit. And I don't even, I choose and pick my. I fight's well. The day I want to fight, you ain't going to even know it. Because I'm going to come up and fight. We ain't for the talk. I ain't going to argue.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I ain't calling you the bitches. I ain't sending, how these niggas talk to each other, call each other out of their name? We're not doing none of that. Well, we have to think about it, right? Social media has created that standpoint of a nigger can get online, talk shit over here. And you can get online, talk shit over here, and you never cross paths. I never saw that. Like, I never understood it.
Starting point is 00:30:13 It's new to me, but I've grown to understand. That's kind of how a lot of these niggas, man, keyboard warriors, man. Man, check this out. This is the thing I said about L.A. And a couple niggas know this point of it. It ain't hard to find out with nobody yet. Man. And niggas keep playing like everybody thinks prison is not worth.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Like everybody, they think prison is the ultimate deterrent. And it's not. It's not. It depends. A lot of us think we can get away with a lot of shit. So it just depends, man. Like, I don't believe in that shit. I believe a nigga playing with.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm not gonna play with you. So if you're playing with me, you must want to learn the hard way anyway. I don't think it's tough or nothing. I think it's just about being a man. We all gotta be men. That's the one thing being street is all about being accountable. You say something about me, nigga, you better be ready to deal with it. I ain't fin to argue back and forth with you.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I ain't fin to do all that, man. Check this out. Where your shit at? We'll see. We gonna see. I'm gonna figure out how to get right next to you. Fair me? And if I felt you said what you said was too far, I'm gonna deal with it.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And if you win, you win. But you fin-a, my niggum said, man, you're going to smell my cologne about it for sure. Yeah. We're going to see. But see, I think for that state, like social media once again is made it worse because yeah, back in the day, a nigga can get him up. Dust. You'll just hear about the fight.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Now, everybody pulling out cameras. When them cameras come out, videos get posted. Now everybody's commenting. People are saying this, saying that. Now it's making the nigger feel like he got to go back and really do something. Yeah. Instead of just leaving that shit sometimes from where it is or don't get them back up. Yeah, but at the end of the day, it's like sometimes it needs to be there.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Like, I know this sound crazy, but I think a lot of these niggas don't have a real understanding of life and death. You know what I mean? Like, I think there's a space where people feel like, okay, how close is this really going to happen to me? People talk like this shit won't happen to them. Like, this shit can't happen to them. And then they get their ass kicking. Now they gotta make a decision where do you want to go? Where you want to go?
Starting point is 00:32:23 And there's certain people like how I grew up, like, wherever you want to go next is fine too. There's nothing to run from at this point. Like I'm okay with being accountable for anything I ever said to a nigga. Whatever I said about my man, what I said. That's why when I come up to this motherfucker, the man, I mean, you by yourself? Hell yeah, I don't need nobody, niggas. It's a gun in this car. Feel me?
Starting point is 00:32:45 problem, nigga, I'm gonna squabble everybody down right about it. You know what I mean? I don't think it's tough because you don't win every squabble. But at the end of the day, you're gonna respect my name. I ain't gonna be no confusing about respect for my name. You ain't gonna have to ask me multiple times to fight little. Let's I love you. If I love you, I might think about it because I really don't want to, you know, hurt you like that. You know what I mean, you ain't gonna ask me no thousand times, man. Whatever it is you want to do, I ain't gonna run from none of this shit, man. This life, we are, for sure, nobody made out this life alive.
Starting point is 00:33:15 So at least the one thing we're gonna do is you're gonna put some respect on my motherfucking name. I don't know about the rest of these niggis, but you ain't feeling with me like that. Fuck all that. You're gonna duck some of these rounds, man. We're gonna get to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 It makes sense to me. And I- No, it makes sense the way you break it down. To some people that don't. And I understand that- No, you're just somebody that don't play, bro. Like, it's not, you're not out here playing characters with niggas, like, and then turning it off.
Starting point is 00:33:43 No. Like you say, you feel how you feel. And I'm one of them type of people you can call and rectify a problem with. I'm intelligent enough you can call me and explain and I understand. What I'm not going to do is be out here, high and drunk, making excuses. I ain't with none of that. I ain't with none of that. I'm not trying to use nobody else and they ain't to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I'm not playing none of that shit. That's why I always want to be, that's why I'm trying to get too, like, involved with certain shit. Because I'm like, man, I want to be a problem solver. It's bossier to be a problem solver than a problem maker. is about, though. Than being a problem maker. Being a man is all about solving problems. Women respect you the most when you can solve problem.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Edison, Southern California, Edison, respect you when you can solve the problem of this bill. T-Mobile respect you more. Your credit score up when you solve the problem. You owe us, you pay us, problem solved. Here, here's more credit score. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I think there's a street credit score.
Starting point is 00:34:39 There's a real credit score. And, you know, again, we're in such a time. He said there's a street could have scored. There's a real good to score. Yeah, yeah. Both of them is important. Both of them are very, to some people is not. For a man, yes, it should 100% should be, for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So I feel like it's important. I think, like you just said, being a problem solver is the true accountability, man, the essence of masculinity. So you're right. And I'm glad you don't participate in some of the shenanigans because it makes, when I have to sit down, I'm like, let me sit down with somebody, right, who is about solving problems. Because that's really what being a man is about.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And respect to every nigga out there trying to solve their problem. Yeah, man, because I know it's not a... Life is not easy. I get it. It's not an easy game to play. Life is a game, but it ain't a game. Yeah, it's not a game. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:29 It's here. Ain't no two man. Ain't no three man. Ain't no reset. Ain't no playing it again. Speaking, for glasses, Malone. What... Where do you feel like the state of hip hop is today just overall?
Starting point is 00:35:47 I mean, I think I think street over culture. I feel like it's an emergency state or do you feel like it's okay? Everything's greenlighted. It's nothing wrong. So it is in a very much SOS state, right? But it's not because of what we think. It is because this culture that the niggas in the Bronx and New York City came up with to express ourselves when, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:12 you come from the ghetto, there was no other representation to show how we party, how we do our thing, how we want to move, how we want to dance, all of our shit. It didn't have movies to explain our life. And they didn't have TV show. We didn't have representation. And if we did, it was always one-sided. There was no way for the ghetto to express themselves. You know, you couldn't tell before.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, they kept a gate on us showing ourselves to the world in our circumstance. And them niggas created a hell of expressive way through a party, through ideas, and you could see it. And that's what made it great. But now it's under attack like rock and roll where, remember, at this point it's being fine. It was a business opportunity for the ghetto. It was a way for you to employ other people to express the problems artistically put on for the world. Right? But now it's like at a space, like where rock and roll where it's like people feel like if you emulate these people,
Starting point is 00:37:08 If you talk about hurting people, if you say you're going to do this. If you act like them niggas, then you're one of them niggins. And I don't like that because it's not really true. So now you're not getting a representation of the ghetto. You get a representation of niggas emulating the ghetto. And then they'll do some weird shit like paint their nails. You'd be like, so then you hear niggins like, man, the homies talk about they be like, well, you know, that's what them niggas do?
Starting point is 00:37:32 No, them niggas is not. Them niggas is not paint their nails in none of these niggas community. you ain't going to no nigger community and there's a bunch of niggas painted in no ghetto in a fucking America not fucking America you ain't going to no ghetto in America and niggas is wearing dresses
Starting point is 00:37:48 the whole block is outside I can't speak for the world he's saving over here I can't say nothing about the because I ain't been to the ghetto in Germany like that I ain't been to the ghetto in Japan like that but for sure I've been to Miami's ghetto posted up I've been to Dayton
Starting point is 00:38:03 I've been to Detroit I've been to Cleveland I've been to Atlanta, and I don't fuck what the rapper's doing. That ain't what them street niggas doing. We ain't fin of fall through no block, and a bunch of niggas is wearing skirts outside. Why do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Why do you think that new mirage of, you know, the dresses and the, you know, the fingernail painting, and the, you know, the heavy eyeliner now or the face makeup that motherfuckers is wearing? Like, where do you feel like this shit is stemming from because obviously the labels are pushing it. I don't even blame the labels.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I don't think three things, short cut, three things. One, you're trying to tell us something, but you just don't want to say it. Two, you're putting on and trying to endorse something. You know what I mean? You're trying to endure something and create a separation in who you are and what everything else is. And you don't know how to do it. This is the laziest way to do it.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's like, okay, I like that. Three, you've been looking up to women this whole time. You want to be, you know, you love what women do. It's not crazy, but, you know, it is a bit weird, you know. But it's those things. So I just hate that people think that represents some ghetto. I just don't like how it's attacked the black men. I don't like how it's predominantly black men
Starting point is 00:39:36 that are caught in some of these situations. I've been saying this the whole time. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I understand if it was just versatile. It's just, you know, a couple niggins this week, a couple white boys this week, couple of Asians next week. No, it's having a pattern of niggas for show.
Starting point is 00:39:53 And my problem in hip hop, everybody knows hip hop represents the ghetto first. So then they'll look at something like, well, that's what them niggas doing. It's a community of niggas wearing purses. No, it's no ghetto in America where everybody wearing a ghetto. purse. That ain't no trend in no ghetto. I'd have been all of the motherfucking ghettos. Look, that's that one, and that's the thing. Hip hop has always been about us. Now I was going into a space that it's about me. You know what I mean? It used to be about us. Ice Cube was a great representation of us. Gizi was a great representation of us. You know, you were supposed to represent
Starting point is 00:40:28 us. Now you get artists representing me and they're like, you know, and then they got some money. So a bunch of other poor niggas like, well, you know, this the homie. No, you just poor. You In fact, this nigga will help you, but he's not. You're not going to get shit. If a nigga worn a dress, he ain't going to help you. You feel like, it seems like, you know, the women are taking over the industry right about now, you know, and shout it to all them, you know, getting a shine. I love it too. But it's just like, niggas, I feel like that's happening because niggas ain't stepping up to the plate like that no more.
Starting point is 00:41:00 The music's getting sloppy. Niggas is just putting out whatever. Well, it could because they're trying to be a bitch. who could be a bitch better than a bitch. You know what I said? If wearing dresses and purses and fingernail polices is cool, should it make sense for women to be leading the show.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Oh, y'all niggas trying to be us, so I appreciate women. Think about it. These niggas been wearing, they've been setting the stage for the women to come in and make their move over street urban culture. You've been wearing dresses, skirts, purses, niggas, got weaves.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Like, I'm watching niggas. It ain't no fanny peasanty. back shit no more. Niggins is walking around full-blown bags, bro. I see that shit with their shit in them. I sent that shit with Fabulous yesterday. He was like, yeah, you know, y'all talk about this person. He was like, it's a cross-body
Starting point is 00:41:48 bag. And it's like, that's a cross-body bag in, like, Europe. Yeah. You know, culturally, we just a little different. You know what? But again, Fab is a fashion. I don't fuck with the ankle. He is. I don't fuck with the ankle. I don't fuck with the ankle. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That's the thing. I'll be on this. I'll be like, because you and that fucking ankle it's crazy. Take that fucking ankle it off. That's... I do not...
Starting point is 00:42:13 Bro, why are your ankles glistening? Yeah, that... I'm crazy. But this is what happened when you too good as a rapper, bro. Yeah, like... The thing is so nice, he's just doing shit. Because I love fashion, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Like, I love it. And I love fucking with, you know, the different fashion senses. Yeah, but some of it is a little overboard. Like a nigger walking around like Fab, you got to... Bro, for us, you can take that shit off, my nigga. Take that off, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:37 You don't need that. Or wear it in Europe. Huh? We're it in Europe. Yeah. We don't need that. Too many of us in the ghetto look up to Fab. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 But Fab is one of them niggas that's so good as EMC. You know, I can just do anything. Hold up, bro. Just, I think, I think, I'm not a fashionable person. I think a fashion as an expression of who you are. Right. So if you're a colorful person, where are your colors? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I'm a motherfuckering. I'm rich. You got the Ben Davis. So, yeah. He got the Ben David. Now I'm comfortable. I ain't fucking with y'all no more in these clothes.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm gonna let you, you're gonna see me a mile away and be like, oh, I know what time he on. Yeah. And to me, that's what fashion is. Well, why not? Glasses, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:15 you're very versatile with, like, with your music and who you've worked with. You've been able to step out the box. Can't, you know what I'm saying? Try something different than the Big Davis.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And the Cortezus, you came in with the Cortezys. Yeah, but, so my thing with fashion is shout out to my nigga T. Because we always talk about this. Shout out to you. But it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:33 I don't fuck with that shit I can't even look at white people clothes Yeah Don't mean wrong, white people make this Yeah I mean But I'm saying Italian cut I'm too African for European
Starting point is 00:43:45 I'm way too African man European cut It's just no you know what I'm saying It's just I'm not mad at I'm not really good at looking at Through designers and picking through That just ain't my thing But I don't knock no nothing Nicky man
Starting point is 00:43:58 If you a fresh nigga Yeah Man do your fresh thing I just want you to be masculine with it Like, you ain't got to steal the lady shit. Come on some designer glasses. I've been, man, the friends I be wearing.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Come on some designer. If you see the frames I'd be wearing. They'll go crazy, bro. But designer, they can't be like too European. But you don't want to be no loks neither. No, no. But I ain't been wearing dark shades. Like, I won't niggas.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Because I'm serious. So as you notice, a lot of glasses I've been wearing clear. I'm not these niggas. I ain't hide my eyes. But you need to see. I'm serious. I believe this shit. I ain't trolling you.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I believe this shit. I'm fighting, shoot and die over this shit. So I wear a lot. Even the friends I be wearing before $500, you know what I mean, as far as something that fit me. And the truth is, man,
Starting point is 00:44:45 this shit fit me. I'm that type of L.A. nigga, man. I'm the classic quintessential Los Angeles niggas that's so far. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like it's important to represent it that way. And that's what, like I said,
Starting point is 00:44:59 me and the Johns, me and L.A. John, shout out to the Johns. they all over to cancel these nuts album. But it's like, we them quintessential Los Angeles niggas. We ain't cutting this shit with nothing. This is not cut.
Starting point is 00:45:12 This 117% pure Los Angeles nigger down to the core. And I walk in every room around the country. I'm proud that we're from Southern California. I wear this California shit better than everybody. You know what I mean? And there were times that I thought I can be into fashion, but man, I don't got enough.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I don't know how to do. It's not my fault. I fuck with cars like we talked about. I know where I'm going to do my thing. I'm going to let y'all have a fashion. Y'all n'all niggas wear all of the European shit. I'm going to stick with this. Let me be the Los Angeles nigga I was born to be every day.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. Simple. Speaking of who's going to be who, I got to know what you think about the ditty situation. That's my point. What's going on with all that? Because I heard you speak up on it earlier, you was like, you know, no matter what, like with, I believe, the May situation, you was like, you know, the bad mouth. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah. Like, and one of these days, I'm gonna get a chance to talk to me, God willing, you know what I mean, and really get it. Because he needs, he's going to have to tell me some crazy shit. Yeah. Like, nigger, like, this nigga raped my mom or something. Like, I don't know how a nigga made you a millionaire and you got a bad thing to say about, cuz. I'm gonna fuck what else you didn't get. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Nick, change your poor-ass life is different. You know what I mean? So, my thing with Diddy is there's a truth somewhere in the middle, right? Do I think Diddy is raping bitch? No. Puff ain't raping. It's not impossible, but Puff ain't raping, though. man, every bitch in the world trying to get Puff some pussy.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Trying to get Puff some pussy. He ain't raving no bitch. Do I think Cassie? I mean, I'm sure it's some level of truth to it, but where is it at in the middle? I don't know. But it's really none of our business because it's in their bedroom, right? I think Puff is in a situation where either he didn't became entirely too powerful. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:53 And now it's like. Billion dollar man. Yeah, you know what I mean? Which all that shit is hella fluck. Because he ain't like Puff got billions of dollars. He can't go sell. Puff couldn't sell everything. He got and have a billion.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But again, the way these white people value themselves and create this four sense of value that now we call the niggins shit that we don't even understand what it means. But in Puff situation, I think he didn't got entirely too powerful and too mildly. And now people are making attacks. The old same attacks would have been suppressed. The old same attacks would have been suppressed by the people that's backing him up and all that. Now you just, he didn't live long enough. He didn't live as the hero long enough to see himself become a villain.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And now we're watching it, like Puff. Puff choking niggas out, punching on niggas and all that and running around. And now they say he raping bitches and robbing niggins. Who is this puff? This ain't the puff that I remember when I was younger. Yeah. His nigger that turned into pops. He didn't turn into shoes.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Yeah. Feel me? So it's one of them things, man, where it's like, I hate to see it's happening to him like that. And I hate that the narrative amongst other black folks is like, like, okay, if he did it, let's, like any other person, let's see him prove it in court before we just jump off the reality. I feel like it all started with for him with the Kifidi-D situation. Like when all that popped off and they were talking about,
Starting point is 00:48:15 oh, did he, you know, just his name just even coming up in the conversation, it was like the media or just the people at hand did not want to let his name go. They wanted to keep him in the melting pot. You know what I'm saying? It sounded too good. It made too much noise. You know, so like once that happened, that kind of fizzles out. Now here comes all the allegations of all these chicks.
Starting point is 00:48:39 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, damn, they're kind of like. It's money because none of it is criminal. And this is my problem. Yeah. Like, you know who went through this? Kat Williams went through this. Real start, I never told the story.
Starting point is 00:48:52 So right when I went through this kind of, like I was going through this, I was in this cocoon, like, you know, 2011 to 2019, where, like, I was, transforming myself from just the street, nigger, the crib, charm dealer, and to a real rapper, to a real hip-hop artist. And it wasn't a lot of things I could do from that time to make money. I couldn't really
Starting point is 00:49:13 go on tours. Like, I tried to put out some music, but I wasn't focused enough because it's like trying to have a job and be in medical school. So I was learning all this shit from 11 to 19. Yeah. And I say that to say that, more than anything, dog, puff ass
Starting point is 00:49:37 even back to the Kee-D thing even back to that point right I agree they are holding him to the to the fire right they hold him to the motherfucking fire but it's just all of this shit at once all of this shit at once all of this shit
Starting point is 00:49:54 of he's supposed to did this he did this he did that he did this he did that he did this he did that but there's no criminal charges back to my point so as I'm going through this metamorphosis is Cat Williams comes to my studio. He wants me to do some music for him.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Right? He's like, man, glasses, you know, blah, blah, blah. This is the time when everybody saying Cat Williams is on drugs. They're like, oh, my, Cat Williams on drugs. I remember that time, man. He's on drugs. So when he reaches out, he's like, man, I want to do a song with glasses. It's like, it's Cat Williams, girl, like, pull up.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So he comes. He got, like, two, three girls with him. They set up a bar. I was building two studios upstairs at my studio. They set up a bar in one of the open setups. It wasn't finished. He sets up a bar with liquor. He got some girls setting it up.
Starting point is 00:50:42 So he's in there talking to me, and I'm listening to this nigga talk to me. I just sold a lot of rocks, man. This niggas ain't on drugs. I ain't sold a lot of shirning this nigga not on drugs. He's talking to me. I'm like, this nigga too conscious. Like, he's too aware of everything. And he's telling me what he's going through.
Starting point is 00:50:57 He's like, yeah, gee, man, these motherfuckers ain't never brought me to no court. I never went to no trial. I never, nothing. He said they just arrested me. And he was just telling me how he turned down an opportunity somebody was trying to present to him that he didn't really respect. He's like, I didn't did too much work. And he was like, nah, man, like this is what this shit is all about. Like, nigga, I'm going to do what I want to do and they can't tear me down.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And that shit usually breaks you. But that nigga was such a cold nigger. It didn't break Cat Williams. And I remember just doing the songs with him and just really just being in awe because like how he was moving. And I'm like, man, this nigger is a nigger. He's a boy. Like this man guy ain't no motherfucker sucker.
Starting point is 00:51:37 He ain't on no dope. But I remember the public thing at that time. And I remember it happened to Dave Chappelle. And then I remember to happen. He left. I'm watching the puff.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So, again, there's something going on when these people are entirely too powerful and have too much control of their career and they, and they path. That allows them to become a villain.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And it's so easy for us to take it. You know, what these people are. are saying about the people that we love. Even now, like, you got all these random people. Like, I'm so upset at all these people, like, fine in the moment to kick this man when he's down. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:16 They wait for it. They wait for it, man. You know what I mean? Every time. Like, I was saying that shit about Cat Williams, shit about Dashapel. I'm like, then I'm watching it happen to puff. Now, again, if Puff is guilty or whatever,
Starting point is 00:52:27 man, let's let this man face his accuser and go through the criminal process like everybody else. But this nink I ain't got one criminal. charge through this whole shit. He ain't that powerful because this shit wouldn't be happening if he had that much power. But it got to be a reason everybody coming after the money. It happened to Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:52:44 It got to be a reason when people only coming after the money. There ain't no criminal charges. You mean he's this menace and not one criminal charge? I don't know if this makes sense, but I try to analyze it as such of if you really look at it, right? Once you get like a certain amount of bread,
Starting point is 00:53:02 it's like you're not allowed to own you anymore. You're not in control of how you move. You're not in control of what you're allowed to say. Like, you say some shit that's out of lunch can cancel you. You know what I'm saying? It can fuck you over. Like, you have to move to a certain light to continue to still have your wealthiness.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So some people that try to break away from that, like the puffs or the Bill Cosby. You know, people like that, they're trying to get with Dave Chappelle. These niggas have made millions upon millions on their own. So they don't want no type of unit. Ain't going to control me.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Look at Dave. Where that nigga running through Africa? That nigga was gone. I said, fuck this shit. But a nigga like Maureen Lawrence, it broke. And now we're watching him put itself back together. Remember he went through all that shit where they found him out there on drugs,
Starting point is 00:53:50 tripping, running around crazy? At least that's what they say. I ain't never confirmed it because of talk to him. But I'm saying they break you. I mean, especially if they're paying you to make you. They're like, hold up. We got you. We own you.
Starting point is 00:54:01 We control you. you don't speak against a program. So somewhere with Puff, man, it's somebody's hell of mad and no longer shading him from a lot of the things that happen to rich black men. I ain't, my whole life,
Starting point is 00:54:13 they've been telling me all these rich, wealthy black men and hip hop is gay. I ain't never heard them say that about white people that's wealthy. White people in music that's wealthy. I ain't never heard them say that about white people in acting,
Starting point is 00:54:23 Hollywood that's healthy. I ain't never heard them say none of that. But all these wealthy black men and hip hop is supposed, again, some of this shit is just bullshit, and I don't fuck with it. I mean, I ain't subscribing. Now, what's happening with Puff Cuzz is somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:54:37 You know what I mean, do I think he's raping other business? I don't believe that. Do I think he, um, he's a shrewd businessman? Yeah, but he's supposed to be. He's the one that paid his youth and everything to learn what he knows to make all these hit records. You know, all that, all these niggins, bullshit, because you niggas ain't made a half a record without Cuzz. You ain't made a half. The only niggas to me, the locks.
Starting point is 00:54:58 They could say something because they went on and did some shit. rest of you niggas, because I ain't made a half of fucking hit record without cubs. Why y'all can't make no hit. But none of these niggas made half a hit records without cuss.
Starting point is 00:55:09 If you niggas got it, then what are we talking about? But again, he paid for it. He learned. He loved his shit. And he paid for it. You know what I mean? So it's right that he does
Starting point is 00:55:19 the business he does because he is the value to himself. Right. You know what I mean? The rest of these niggas, they benefit off of his talents and then they have talent.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But let's see you do the business with your talent. So how I feel about Puff is I think Puff is really under attack. And I feel like instead of people who coming out that he did get him opportunity and change their life, it's easier to just kick Cuds when he down. You know what I mean? It's just easier to kick Cubs when he down. And I got a lot of partners that fuck with Cubs.
Starting point is 00:55:49 If he fucking niggas and all that, ain't none of these niggas, half of these niggins. Nip, I ain't never thought that. Nick, when we talked about Cud, he ain't never thought that. Problem fuck with Cuzz. He never thought that. I mean, he did have a problem with him. with Fab was saying, man, why don't you never party with me, man? Why don't you never invite me to your birthday?
Starting point is 00:56:05 Oh, tough say all kinds of. A lot of these niggins say some filthy shit. You said, I like it like that, Daddy. He'd be on one, bro. I don't know if he'd do it because he knows people say it, so he just kind of embrace it. I think some of these niggas get entirely too comfortable with their sexuality and allow things to be funny.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You know what I mean? Like, I remember seeing... I remember Charlotte Mag was talking to the nigger talking about, yeah, if this nigga get all I suck his dick. That's not even something to be, you know what I mean? But again, that's also rooted in a lot of masculinity while we don't
Starting point is 00:56:38 play with sexuality. But I do think it's a freeing element once you get money to express humor at higher levels for those type of people. So yeah, I do think Puff fuck with niggas. He's a fucking, he's a dick like that. So I'd imagine him being a funny nigga. But you ain't going to tell me he's fucking all the bitches
Starting point is 00:56:54 and all the niggas. Yeah, because I feel like this, right? I was like, damn. I'm like, I'm just waiting for the niggies to come out to me because there are gonna be some people that, some men that come out, which I don't think there is. Like, I fuck with Puff. Puff is, you know what I'm saying? Like I said, he's iconic, bro, for what he's done, not
Starting point is 00:57:10 only for himself, but like you said, for others, bro. Because he didn't change, like you said, he didn't change, like you said, so no matter what the fuck he did, you, everybody else could say something, you really can't say shit, because he changed your life, bro. You got to kind of just roll with the punches.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I mean, you really supposed to come out and be standing up for him. But again, we in that time now. If you do, you get thrown in the mix with the wood, right in the mix of the wood, in the lines then, bro. But if it's like this right now, we're doing this right now, right? So my minute is this, man, a nigga's self-made. So unless you, like, why is all these other niggas under attack to where if you stand up
Starting point is 00:57:47 for another brother that changed your life? Like, there was a time when niggas was talking shit about Birdman, Nick can't tell me nothing about Birdman, bro. And I'm not saying it because the nigga changed my life because I ain't ever saw it. And I don't get fuck what they're saying about Birdman business. I can't say it. So when they was talking all that shit about Birdman business, I stood up on every platform.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I can't vouch for that. To pay me and extra pay me. And I ain't no threat to this nigga. That nigga got millions of dollars. Right. That nigga told me the business. Millions of all millions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:13 That nigga taught me the business. Never denied me to know the business. It was always a relationship. To this, man, I love that nigga, man. That nigga has never held no business. How y'all meet? Back 10. That's lie.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yeah. Mac 10, another nigga taught me the business. I don't go fuck what niggas is saying? But again, you can see that these niggas ain't men because they don't stand up for other men that changed their life. How are you not going to be accountable? Like, Puff is up to Puff to deal with Puff shit, but all you niggas that's hopping on a bandwagon
Starting point is 00:58:42 to get an interview to talk bad about because you niggas is bitches. Straight up, that is some girl shit. That's some woman shit, you know, bullshit. I ain't fucking with that. Let that man deal with his cases the way everybody else get to deal with their cases. Why the fuck is? I got to jump in. This ain't got nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And if anything, if he changed my life, I for sure would be standing up for Cubs. Because to me, that's a nigga that's been waiting to say something. Yeah. That's a nigga that's been waiting on his, that's some snake shit, that's waiting on your opportunity to strike
Starting point is 00:59:13 behind his back instead of to his face. Why he's just walking there and just go strike him if you've been out of problem with him? Pupp ain't that hard to get to where you can't squabble Puff. I heard. I think he'll get out. Yeah, I heard him talk to the little actor on the corner. I couldn't even believe it because that's what you.
Starting point is 00:59:28 made me start thinking this shit might be trouble. I saw I was talking to the actor on that corner when he was dressed like the Joker. Hey, now you know they told him you can't do that no more? Man, they had to... They banned him as being that following him. First off, puff would have to squabble me, cut right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:42 You ain't feeling to be saying all that shit to me, you can't squabble me, nigga, right now. Fuck is wrong. You never thought you would ever squabble the Joker in your life. What? Shit, pub with that... Yeah, mubber had to squabble me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You're talking to that man on that corner, man, I had to squabble puff, man. You've, Puff, we had to line that shit up, bro. I'm not. You can't do all that to me, bro. We're going to see. But so, no, the thing is I think somewhere is true in the middle. I mean, I think Puff probably a little wild boy,
Starting point is 01:00:10 but I don't think he's nowhere near as bad as everybody trying to act like he is. I think everybody's just ungrateful and they forgot that they was begging for the opportunity to be around this nigga because of what he knew. And then now that he won't let him be around him no more, it's like I'm mad. Cassie's situation different. They should is. Yeah, they shit. Yeah, that's love.
Starting point is 01:00:31 I won't talk to none of my own. I ain't getting no homeboy shit or no brother shit about them in love. Yeah, yeah. Because I don't know what kind of shit I was doing. You'd be fucking with the old schools, huh? Yeah, that's it. Story of my life.
Starting point is 01:00:43 What you got? I got some new shit. I really ain't been trying to talk about it. Car-wise, don't know what you got? You got to talk about the motor? Because if a nigga racing, you ain't about that. I got a few different things. I had a Malibu Wagon.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I got my Maryland. I love. You know what I was working on that one? Fifty-eight Wagon. wagon, cabriolet, 79 cabriolet, the Cadillac, lowrider that we're working on. Yeah. You taking it off, Frank? 67 and probably convertible.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah, everything. Them shit's being lined. Because I ain't rich enough to be doing all this shit at once. I mean, shit, if you think about it, no, true. But, you know, fuck around. You can get the frame powder-coated, probably, you know what I'm saying? Take the motherfuck off. Get the motherfuck off.
Starting point is 01:01:28 This is how I look, right? I feel like right now I've been my whole. whole shit is just cancel these nuts. You know what I mean, the album? So I'm doing all my promo run. This shit, one person. Yeah. Like, all this shit, if you see him on the breakfast club, that's because somebody from the breakfast club seeing Envy fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Right. Taylor, the producer, fuck with me. Somebody fuck with me. If I do math, because I fuck with math. This is just maintaining relationships. I'm in the bay because I'm one of those guys, and they can show me love. So you got to fly yourself, get you there. So I'm paying all this money, and I'm selling all of my albums at the Crip store,
Starting point is 01:01:59 at my website. Well, let's go racing, nigga. We can always make some extra bread, bro. I know, but I... Don't bite the bait, nigga. No, but during this time, I haven't had it. So I only got a chance to finish my motor. Shout out to Dustin. Dustin is dope.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Hold up. Dustin Lee. You know, my transit is crazy. Shout out to Mike transmission. Yeah. I got my draw train together, but my shit ain't together. But also, I can't hustle my race car in that regard. Like, I love it too much.
Starting point is 01:02:29 You know, I mean, that's not a good race. There's nothing on that car that's going to break that you could fix for $100. Yeah, no. Nothing. That's over. Nothing. There's nothing on that car, bro. It's like when we were talking about the heads, like, and all of that, right?
Starting point is 01:02:43 I really do shit in a... The nigger, the nigger who designed the heads did my port one. That's a lot. That's a lot. So it's not like an outskirt nigga that I took and got my heads fully poured in the polish and all that. No. This nigga designed the heads for Airflow research.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Well, you know, John Kempel. Keller Sr. Shout out to him, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying? Keller Racing. They do roundabout, so they do like NASCAR,
Starting point is 01:03:12 roundabout. His son, like, and those hands was the shit for a long time. And niggas could even fuck me. They got like,
Starting point is 01:03:17 he was like, I remember when they first came out, they dropped him a set of eight sets of them. You know what I'm saying? I ended up getting that shit. I had two of those eight sets. Nice.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And his daddy, you know what I'm saying? He's been in the game for 20 years. They didn't won NASCAR cups, all that shit. We had a white boy like this name was Joe Sherman from Sherman,
Starting point is 01:03:34 from Sherman Racing. Yeah. And rest of peace to Joe. Shout out to his kids. Shout out to Larry Kennedy. All the good folks over there on that racing scene. Yeah. He was like that with Airflow too.
Starting point is 01:03:43 He had been porting heads. My God pops got me in the racing. Rob, my dad, shout out to my dad. You know, they got me in the racing, and my God pops helped me understand how important heads was. Yeah, head work is important, bro. It's everything. It's everything.
Starting point is 01:03:56 It's everything. It's everything. It's in cam. So Joe Sherman, shout out to Sherman racing and everything they were doing. But they were on heads. and, you know, porting and polishing cylinder heads and race cars early. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:07 So just like, just shout out to Keller and all of them. They was all in that early set. It was all in that early set, man. Porting and dinoing and getting power. So I fuck with it for a real passion. Just like music, though. Why I'm mad with hip-hop, it can't be about money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:21 You have to do business. This is why I sell all of my music at www. The Cripstore.com. That don't mean that Spotify ain't, you know what I'm saying? That don't mean Spotify ain't screaming my shit. That'll mean Apple. don't got my shit. Shout out to Ebro and all the people that push my shit up at Apple and love
Starting point is 01:04:38 I get, but it's up to me to sell my shit and make it work. Right. So right now, all my money's been in marketing, my brand, my music, reintroducing myself to the landscape, introducing the Giants, the LA Giants. Shout out to the homies. Joey and Deuce. It's all been about introducing that shit to the landscape.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And this shit is expensive. This ain't no punk. No, no. You fucking with this shit. No, it's not. And you know, fucking with them cars. your cars, those aren't cheap. You know what I'm saying? To put them together.
Starting point is 01:05:07 That's not a cheap hobby, bro. My drive train. Yeah, it's not cheap. You know, my converter done, my train's done, my engine done. Now I got to start fucking with the car. You know, making sure the car hook up no matter where it's at. But it's hard for me. They look at the car and don't know that car is $60,000, $70,000 car sitting there.
Starting point is 01:05:22 It's going to cost money to keep them together. I feel you, it's an expensive hobby, especially when a nigger has something that costs some expensive living and having to make a move, nigga got to take a pick. It's like you investing in your business. The motherfucker is going to start. The motherfucker's going to sit on the back burner for a little bit. For right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:37 They'll be here. Yeah, right now it's all about this shit. You know what I mean? But me, like I told you, my nigga Gene. Shout out to Gene Sanders, all the homies that's weird. Yeah, shout out to Gene, man, my nigga. We're working behind the scenes to make sure right around 2025, like all this car shit is done.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah. Ain't nobody fucking around. We're fin to take all of that, too. But it's just right now I've got to do the business, this record business, this music business. I got to sell my music. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:06:03 I got to sell www. www. The Crippstore. You know what I'm saying? Spotify, you feel like me? We own.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Like that's what it is. Yeah, no, that's live, man. You know, what's some of the features that's on that album
Starting point is 01:06:17 that you did? Really just the LA Giants. Yeah. Just the homies, bro. Like, I got free on there. Cocaine. Jelly Road does a lot of shit.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. There we go. My little sister, Nakina. Kimmer Nicole is a dope female artist. EP produced the whole album. Yeah. She didn't watch with my Jordan Dam's.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Alicia, she sang on us. She's been on my ass about it because she felt like she ain't get enough credit. Yeah. But it's really just a brainstorm with just L.A. resurfacing, like our attitude. I feel like you see a lot of other things, but you don't really see our attitude in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:06:50 And our attitude towards a lot of shit going on. And that's what we focused on. Say you want to take that back. You want to get back into the reins of that? I mean, I think it's just where we at. L.A. ain't changed enough for me to believe nothing else. It ain't changed enough for me to believe nothing else
Starting point is 01:07:06 When I'm hanging out Because it ain't like niggas Hanging out wearing skirts or purses Right Niggas still just tripping So I can't I can't I gotta let them know
Starting point is 01:07:18 We still where we at with it Any shows anything coming up soon? We're doing our own shit We're producing a concert Like a house party Yeah I really ain't looking to do shows For other people
Starting point is 01:07:28 I'm more residency You can just for yourself You know what I'm saying? Yeah no no yeah Yeah, we're gonna do some, we're gonna do some dope shit. We're doing the residency, like I said, it's a concert, produced like a house party. We don't give a niggins to real treatment. That's gonna be live right there.
Starting point is 01:07:42 You don't come to really get to come to LA for real. Give it an old school field. Yeah, you ain't, I ain't, you don't get to drink with niggis drinking. You don't get to really hang the way niggis hang. Yeah. And that's all we focused on, man, making it a cultural experience for everybody, all this shit. Yeah. Straight up.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Who you feel like right now, like up and coming, like top two up and coming right now in You say, like, man, they got it. They just got to kind of stay in the mix. I love what Zoe is doing. And I like what famous Uno is doing. I like how Zoe rap. It's like an energy. He just probably needs to be produced.
Starting point is 01:08:16 You know what I mean? Like, I think he got a natural knack for it, produced. And then there's so music is not even like that no more. Where it's like these niggas, right? This nigga who got the shit at the time when they got the shit? You know what I mean? It ain't. I don't know if it's going to go back to that space.
Starting point is 01:08:32 no more where it's like one nigga is just dominating. You know what I mean? I love what Perico do. I love what Conrad do. I love what different nigg-do when they're doing it. Whoever got the shit, Figg Newton, I love what niggas is doing their thing. I love that R&B shit,
Starting point is 01:08:46 that blast got going on and my little nephew, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like different niggas. They got different things, man. You know what I mean? So it's the landscape is so diverse because they've been learning about L.A.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Niggas for 40 years. You know what I mean? So now we just showing off the diversity of it all. I appreciate that. Is there anything you want to tell your fans or the viewers? They're saying. You want to, any last finishing touches you want to leave them with?
Starting point is 01:09:14 Man, they already know, man. I'm feeling just, it's fun to just be bad. Hey, man, I appreciate you for sliding. We talked, remember last we talked about this last week at the other spot, right? So we was going to do this in the home we was trying to link us and shit. And we finally, man, it was an honor. And we finally, man, it was an honor to sit down with you because, like I said, I've known about you since 2008. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:36 You know what I'm saying? Like, since you've been in the game. So, like, and you came out swinging then. So it was an honor to sit down with you, you know, a real batter-upper, you know, and just talk baseball. We're going to talk about some of this race and shit. Yeah, yeah, for sure. We've essentially got to have a real conversation. I don't know how we do it because I don't think no jumper audience really want to hear about how far we're going to go into this car.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah. I just wanted to touch the surfaces of it, though. You know what I'm going to get with high ride. I'm going to get with high ride. Yeah. Because they need some urban content. Yeah. Like high ride magazine and all these.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yeah. Y'all need some urban content. And y'all need to hear raising it from our perspective. We got real. I got some real stories, man. Real footage of, man. Cars really running. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:21 You know what I'm saying? Putting race motors in pretty cars. I like that, though. The second track people giving you your head. That's slip. Yeah. That's important. man was whooping shit with a little bit.
Starting point is 01:10:30 They don't even know what's wrong. But it's all good. The sharp tank. No jumper. Sharpest, coolest podcast in the world. Hey, Donnie, shoot us out to motherfucking gym.

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