No Jumper - Good Perry On Leaving Lil Yachty’s Sailing Team, Being A Korean Ambassador & More

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

Good Perry talks about his new projects, new music, producing Lil Yachty's “One Night”, the Burberry lawsuit vs Kylie Jenner allegedly saying the n word on a track, and more! ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No jumper, the coolest podcast in the world, and we're about to break this down brick by brick. I cussed the first little shit, but we don't have to edit it. We're about to break it down brick by brick. We got my boy in the building, super producer. Ambassador, journalist. Like, it goes on and on and on. He's into the politics.

He's into the producers. He's like a very awesome friend of mine. This is good Perry, man. Yes, sir. What's going on? What's going on? I've been chilling. I've just been working on Joe Son, working on my music.

Hell of stuff. As far as like music, I got some stuff I've been working on recently. I've been getting together. I've been shooting hell of videos. And I'm actually excited to drop something in 2024. So something big coming in 2024 for sure. Oh, for me musically and for Joe Son. Yeah.

It's things that we got planned. So what is Joe Son? Like you talk about Joe Son. What is this Joe Son thing that you? So if I, I'm going to start from the beginning as far as like to explain what Joe Son is and what's going on. And what direction we are going in now. So a lot of people. when they refer to the current monarchy

or the current people who rule Josan. Yeah. They consider them the king and queens of Korea, right? Yeah. But really, it's not... So what is Joe, was Joe San, what does Korea and Josan? Hey, let's start, let's do the background on Joe San first. How about what is Joe Son?

Like, what is it a empire? It's a country. Like, where does it originate from? Well, Josan is the monarchy The origin that ruled over the peninsula of Korea Before Korea was there. Yeah. So before Korea was named Korea,

it was a place called Josan. And that was the name of the family, the monarchy that ruled over that space. Okay. Where Korea is. So now moving forward, you're back to where you're going? So then Korea, Josan gets finished in 1392.

Right. It was the longest dynasty on the Korean Peninsula, like, that's ever been there. I think it's the longest dynasty in, like, human history type. Like, bigger than the Roman Empire. Yeah. But, um, so fast forward a little bit, the Korean War, right? America comes through. They start the Korean War against communism.

They split the country in two, right? North Korea, South Korea. Completely do away with Joe Son. Right? Yeah. And so, but the family, the monarchy that ruled over, they got treaties with all kinds of countries. Yeah. Commerce, trade, all these kinds of treaties.

Yeah. And a lot of these treaties say in perpetuities, which means forever. Yeah. So it means that they're still, like the members of Josan are still considered sovereigns. Yeah. Like they're still considered their own people, their own country, things of that sort. So we come up to now with the current king. and Prince King Isok and Prince Andrew Lee.

Yeah, which is a close friend of ours. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A close friend of ours, a great friend of ours. King Isok, who was born in Korea, met Andrew, who's a descendant of his. Well, they're like far descendants, but he passed on... Same family tree. Same family tree.

Yeah. He passed on the King's Shire. to Andrew. Yeah. And Andrew had this great idea of wanting to recapture the sovereignty and not just use it for the family's uses, but to actually give it back to the people in a way. So which is why you can come and join Josan now as whatever citizen you are or wherever you are in the world and actually be a part of this ecosystem of people we got going on.

And it's not just like, how would I say, uh, uh, sovereign nomads. Like, it's not nothing like that. Like, even though sovereign nomads are, do find interest in Josan because of what it is. Yeah. But, um, it's, it's for anybody who has a passion for anything or wants to see something beyond where

they are now. And they're, they're held down by the limitations of the laws against businesses and the countries that they at and you can come to Joe Son and basically register a business into Joe Son and then freely do what with your company what you want whether it be like for examples like um say you dropping a song right yeah you want to drop a song you can and there's no way for you now like as an American citizen for you to be like all right I want to sell off pieces of this song these people are going to be able to to help me fund this song like unless you open up a go

fund me or something. Yeah. Exactly. So what Joe's on allows you to do, it allows you to have IPO benefits without IPOing, like without having to like go through the process of building like a company up to a large company and then becoming a large business. You could just do it from the beginning. Yeah. And so say if you, you got a couple of years. Y'all believe in this. Y'all can go ahead and like put it out, start getting the funding for it and get moving with Put it out through Joe sign. Exactly. And what, like, so what coin would you use in order to purchase?

So, like, how does it? Because I don't want to even skip, because I'm going to skip over some. Because I know what you're talking about, but I can't. I got to pretend that I don't right now. And I'm, like, interested in it diving into that because that is a new platform that we are offering to people. Yeah. where you can sell shares of your music through Josan. Like we're definitely,

that's the way that we're breaking into hip-hop. But, okay, so now that we have what Josan is, like, so where does this cryptocurrency come into play? Like, okay. So, Josan, because it is considered a nation, we had to create our own currency, right? But instead of creating like a paper dollar or a coin or something, we just decided to not make any physical fiat currency and just completely make it digital. And just use the Josan one as our fiat currency for Josan the country.

And to go back to your other question, for example, if you were to drop a song and then you were to make it underneath a coin, You can actually coin your own coin, like make your own coin underneath the Josan coin with your blockchain. Yeah, yeah. Call it whatever you want. Like people can come and can go and buy into it, like everything, like whatever you would want. But Josan is just being the backbone of everything that's built off of. Yeah. It's like the Ethereum family and the Bitcoin family.

Yeah, there's multiple coins up under that umbrella. Exactly. Yeah. All right, yeah. So to be recognized as a country, you had to go through certain obstacles. Yeah. And first of all, first and foremost, all that. Listen, how, let's start here.

How the fuck did a black man getting charged in the Korean? And then we'll get into that because I like tilt my hat off to you. And I tell my hat off to Andrew Lee for always reaching out and dealing with the people that he doesn't have to. Because he doesn't need us to go forward at all. But he definitely sees potential in certain individuals. And he's not afraid to, you know what I mean, give him a shot. So how did you get in your position? And what did you have to go through to get Joe sign recognized as a country?

It's a funny story. I can start from the beginning as far as like how I met Andrew and how everything went down and then how I began like becoming a part of Josan and everything. So at the beginning I actually was just at home playing World of Warcraft right on my computer. And he was just somebody that I would hop in Discord with and we would just play World to Warcraft like at the group.

Like literally just playing World of Warcraft. Yeah. We was talking in Discord And he was like, we was just talking about like Where everybody lived, I think one day And then he was like, I was like, yeah, I live in L.A. Like, what's this call? He was like, oh, you live in L.A.?

He was like, I live in L.A. He was like, we should link up. Like, type of thing. And I started linking up with him when I pulled up. It was like a crazy situation. Crazy, yeah. It was a crazy situation. Let's start there.

Google Andrew Lee's Matchy. What is you talking about? It's crazy. It's like three castles or one. But I hate to put my big dog out there like that. But you can Google. It's on a public record. Yeah, yeah.

But I started pulling up, and we would just play World of Warcraft at his crib. Like, every, like, once in a while I come pull up. This is before gaming PCs. No, this was during gaming PCs. But I had a game of a laptop. Yeah. Okay. Because my brother and them, they've been playing, like, it was not.

Call of Duty. What was the other one you played on the computer? It was before gaming PCs and he used to juice your computer up for it. World Warcraft? No. Not World Warcraft? It was something else. They used to have tournaments and all of the shit. Halo? No. Counter strike.

Counter strike. Yeah, that's it. Counter strike, bro. Counter strike, that's the original yeah, the counterstrike. So, yeah, like, before the gaming PCs, you remember you just used to, like, juice your Your desktop up and like

Play that. My brother used to get his ass real for that. I never got into that. But he used to be like stealing money going to turn. No, he knew how to do that. He was going to turnipers, but he actually went. He had to. Oh, man, he was hardcore.

So, but yeah, I do that. That whole world is a different world. So you guys met up gaming. I mean, you start pulling up. Yeah. What's going on? I started pulling up, and we was just gaming at his crib every once in a while for a while. And then we started, he was always talking about this Josan thing.

Like, it wasn't even something that was initially, like, brought to my attention at first. But he was, after, like, hearing more and more about it, I started asking, I was like, what is that? He was like, he was like, I'm actually, like, I'm a member of this sovereign nation called Joson. And I was like, really? And I knew what sovereign nations and stuff was, but I never, like, knew someone who was, like, actually in it or, like, had any say-so and anything. Yeah. But I was asking more questions. And after asking him more questions and seeing where he wanted to take it and seeing what his ideas was and his reasoning for doing it, like, it really intrigued me.

So I was like, let me see what I could do to, like, help with this and whatnot. He was like, yeah, we could figure out something for you to, like, help and do, like, For sure. So I started, like, contacting people from different countries and, like, meeting up with ambassadors and certain other members of, like, cabinets and things of that sort. Yeah. And I just started off going from there. What's a cabinet?

A cabinet is like a ministry. Like, for example, you got a minister of defense. You got a minister of interior. This is for the viewers like me. I don't understand. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. So the cabinet is the immediate people that the leader of a country

chooses to help him, like, lead that country. That's what the cabinet is. So in America, that would be... That would be like the Minister of Defense or, like, Condoleezza Rice was. Yeah, exactly. Okay, all right, cool. Wow. Yeah.

Now I understand. Yeah, so I started, like, reaching out to these people. And, like, with the... with the thought of Josan in mind, of course I was like helping out with it. And yeah, we just started going from there. And then we got a treaty in July with Antigua, which was fire. Because it was like we had already had an agreement with them for a while of which. And then, yeah, they finally signed off on the treaty in July,

which made us the first UN nation recognized sovereign name. Not even just a sovereign nation, but a cyber nation, a nation that doesn't hold any physical land. Yeah. So that we don't like, we don't like step on nobody's toes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no country that has that either. But we're at the metaverse. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We occupy a digital space completely. So we don't step on nobody's toes. We don't, and, and we don't, we don't mess with any other countries like definition of sovereign or whatever. So the trip to Antigua.

Yeah. Let's get into it. How did that go? Who did you go with? I went by myself. By yourself? Yeah. Pete.

You're a fucking soldier, bro. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy because. Howard and fuck that. I know we having a political conversation, but it was right. It was fine. I mean, I know that you probably got a girl, but I'm saying how did they look? Not like Howard.

The people, they're a beautiful. I think all the island nations, bro, it. You need to tap each and every single one of them. Come up, man. Because it's like a crazy array of, like, beautiful people there. Like, it'd be like these people that look like black but got a little Indian. Yeah. Like, where is that?

Yeah, that skin complexion is crazy, right? It's crazy. But, nah, Antigua was fired. Even seeing the people there, like, like, my parents are from Haiti. I've been to Haiti a couple of times. But, like, so I assume that most countries in the Caribbean were really third world. But, like, nah, this place is like, like, they got a no boooo. over there.

Yeah. They got a noble over there. Oh, it's cracking over there. Yeah, it's fire over there. Yeah. It's fire over there. So the two was pretty fire.

So they, you go stay at the ambassador, like you stay at the embassy or what do you say? I went to the embassy every day. Yeah. Well, not the embassy. I went to the, to the, to the, um,

I went to like where they hold Senate, where they hold Congress over there. Oh, yeah. I have a parliament. Like basically, yeah, parliament. Like you went to Parliament.

Like you went to Capitol Hill. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I went there. every day. And I had meetings with ministers, the prime minister, like just going through I can't

like go too in detail. No, no, no, no, no. Just step by step what you experience. I don't care about it. Like I do care, but I don't you know, certain treaties are treaties for a reason they're not meant to be public. I mean, they're probably public, but let them do their

homework. Yeah. But I was just negotiated that for days meetings upon meetings um drafts um so yeah and i just went there i handled that and then finally on july 11th they signed uh they signed a formal treaty with us and um yeah it's that it's been fire since then yeah so basically uh i hate going over shit like this I'm not going to go out too. It's good. We're not even going to go into these.

Yeah, I mean, because I covered all that already. That's crazy. I didn't even look at that shit. So it's like, so it's crazy because, like, where you started. This is like a, I did the interview in reverse formation for a reason because I go to, like, let everybody think that you're this nerdy, political dude. You know what I mean? But, like, where did this shit start?

They said you were a producer for Lil Yadi So where did good Perry even start at? Where are you from? I'm from Atlanta, Atlanta, Georgia, for show. Fo Foe, I actually, like,

What I would be most prominent for is probably producing a lot of Lil Yadis, like early albums, like his first couple of albums, like a lot of his early hits. So I came up, Like that was like when I was 18 and I've been outside ever since I don't even know like I just been out looking finding something to be good at and somewhere to like apply it when you say first hits what what what uh like one night want to be us um the whole little boat album like so how was two how how was the recording process of one night like one night's a hell of a record then seeing it blow up like what how was how was the

recording process like what did you guys well I wasn't actually there when he recorded it I remember he asked me for a beat one day and um I just texted him one like I made one real quick in the car and then I texted it to him and then um he he sent me back a song later that uh the next date but like at this time like nobody was hot on my beats anyways. Yeah. So he was the only nigger who was like texting me back song and be like, yo, I made some fire. So I thought it was fire.

But like whenever we played it for people, like people didn't like gravitate to it as much. Like you know what I'm saying? Like so I thought it was fire though. But it was like we put it out in the summer. And then it was it was July, August, October, no, it's July, August, September, October, November, December, December, December, December. December is when traction starts to pull up. Yeah, yeah. And we're like, like, we're waking up and it's like 100, 200,000 new plays on it.

We're like, what's going on? Like, what's... Yeah, like, why are they fucking with you now? Yeah, I don't know. And then, yeah, so after, after like December that year, next year, we was basically just like on the run. Like, we wasn't even home half the time after that. So you were a part of the boat? What did they go?

Yeah, it was a sailing team at the time. I know now he got the concrete boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a part of the 17. So what position were you in in life when you first met Yadi? Like, what were you doing? You're in college? No, I wasn't in college. I was just, at the time Atlanta had like a scene.

Sometimes I see it in other places too. But like basically when like a bunch of young niggas who's like some niggas is in college, some niggas ain't. But like the ones that's like still in the fields like. like we all grouped up because we just fresh out of high school but like we're not all from the same high school but like we all just so happen to go the same places so we all just started grouping up like the young hipster school yeah exactly exactly so I actually met him at a party

and then after that that's like you know the through my homie Nestle yeah but a niggas from Atlanta would know if you all know if you all that's gonna pick up in your mic I'm like I don't know well I'm about to say yeah so you're in college, you're a hipster. Were you in college or were you just wanted to know what I was in college. I was in college for like a month or two.

So you're from Atlanta, Georgia? Yeah, Atlanta, Georgia. Well, no. Are you from Brunswick? No, I'm not from Brunswick. No, I'm not from Brunswick. Read from Savannah. That's what I meant to say, my boy from Brunswick.

My bad. I'm from actually, I guess you would say Clayton County, County? Like, because I went to, I went to like middle school in Klingham. Yeah, no, I went to, um, Monday's Mill. Not I'm saying, but you down that way. Yeah, down that way. Right off Mountaine Road type of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I went to Mondays Mill Middle and then I went to Dutchtown High School. Yeah. In high school, which is in Henry County, which is just the county below. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, right before we love Claycoe. Yeah, I already, you know, I'm hip today. Yeah, yeah.

So how did you get up to? the city. Even though it's only like a 20 minute drive. It's like living in the valley. No, it's a 40 minute drive from Henry. It's a 40 minute drive from Henry. Because I lived off exit 221. Like 221, I don't know.

Like I consider like the first couple of like downtown exits like after Hartsfield. So that's like 270. It's a bit away. Yeah. I'd never look at it like that because I used to drive from Ingalls Landing all the way to the city every day. That's the drive too. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm about to say. Yeah, I had a little chick that lived down there. So I used to be, you know, in and out that motherfucker. So you make it up to the city. You meet little Yadi at a party like at like a hipster joint. You know what I mean? I wouldn't say it was hipster at the time, but I guess we were hipsters. I mean, considered to a gangbanger, like considering that.

Yeah, like, considering me being a gang member, it's like, I look at you. guys is hipsters like little cool kids you know what I'm saying it's not like hippie but it's like the little cool kids to stay out of trouble but they still hip like yeah to what's going on to the streets yeah yeah well I'm about to say uh are you and yadi still on good terms yeah yeah I just talked to him the other day although like um how would I say like uh we don't talk to each other like often but like I do hit them up every once in a while I'll be like yo what you doing like what's this call I seen you was over here

I was over here I just seen him at Complex Con Oh yeah he was at Complex Con Yeah did you Did you Go through any turmoil at the time Or do you want to not Turmoy with him now

Like did you guys like Over the selling team Did the selling team get any Any type of turmoil To where you guys weren't seeing Eye to eye for a second And now you're coming back around And you're just cool now

I don't think it necessarily Was ever turmoil like a lot of people do assume that yeah, but I think it was just because I'm one year older than him So like I've always been like the type of person who like always wanted to like like I never had my own crib like while I was coming up at the time So I wanted to like go live in my own house like go do this go do that Yeah so I guess as I was getting older I kind of just like grew apart in that sense so like I was staying in my crib more like I wouldn't come out I wasn't trying to like what's this called like I was just called like I was just like trying to enjoy my things, I guess. Yeah.

Yeah. And other people probably viewed it as you being faking. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I get exactly. I get it. Yeah.

So it wasn't really turmoil. It was more like of a growth thing. Yeah. Because we always like, like even if it was years where it was like contact, it was still contact in some shape or form. It's never been like a fuck you, bro. Like a, oh, I don't fuck with you, bro. Like we never like hit each other like that.

So did him taking a break from music for a second affect you producing for him? Or is it like us like just growing apart now is just new people around and you guys don't have those type of conversation? Hmm. I actually don't, I don't think he ever has taken a break from music. Like I think he's recording every single day. Like if he gets a chance for sure. But if you- For sure, but it was a period where there was no Yadi songs in rotation.

Like you got to think Like it has been a period where I don't know, I thought Yaddy was in jail for a second Shit. Really? I'm just saying like it got to that point Like when is he 20 like right after COVID maybe Oh I wouldn't know I wasn't hanging around him as much

That's what I'm saying like he went blank for a second There was no Yadi albums dropped for sure Because Yadi doesn't have an album every year to date You get what you said? You get what I'm saying? So it's like he kind of took a break off the rap I think he was enjoying money and fighting cases And living life

He always been on the scene But it's like Fighting cases You think he was fighting cases? He had the gun cases Gun cases Didn't you have a gun case? No, I don't think so

Yadi had a gun case Can we put it? I don't think so A little Yadi gun case No way let me see yeah what

yeah you got to look that up I don't want to be like a fucking misinformer not pop it up anywhere I don't see nothing yeah

that's crazy I thought that they caught him with some guns a long time ago no I don't think so because it was like before he was able to he was supposed to have rifles

and I think he got caught with hand guns before he turned 21 or some shit nah all right well I was wrong. I was wrong.

Jesus, my bad, Yadi. I don't mean to put that rep on you, you know me? So what's your, like, relationship with the rest of the sailing team and what is like the original pack? Like, who did that consist of and who's still around Yadi today? I don't know. I wouldn't have no idea. But like, as far as my relation with like the original, like, or the pack, the sailing. team.

Like, a lot of them was, um, Yaddy's friends, like his friends prior to, like, what's it called? Like, I would say, like, instead of it being, like, the way around of, like, um, like, I was the new guy. Yeah. I was the new guy at the time. So, like, I was being invited to, like, a pack of friends. That came up together.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, all right. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that explains my. most of the, you know what I'm saying? People probably thought that you were like a day one type. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess you would consider a day one if we was like, we was 16, 17 at the time.

Yeah. Well, it says here, little Yadi arrested for driving over 150 miles. So he had a regular driving case. All right. You know, I got caught with guns and drugs at that time. Exactly. I knew. Oh, I didn't know.

That's what I was just about to say. I had no idea. I had no idea, man. Yeah, that's crazy But yeah I just thought you know about that shit I remember it was something about guns and drugs I mean

September 2020 Yeah Oh man Yep That was right when I Well I guess I was watching TMZ A lot at the time I was in jail still

Oh I was incarcerated So all the news that came on TMZ I was already him to I guess Yeah And TMZ crazy I got one more that I had down TMZ is super crazy

You know it's crazy I don't know if Burberry will say anything I was going Hold on That's what I said I got one more I want to ask you What happened with the lawsuit With Burberry

Okay That's what That's exactly where I was going So Burberry I think this all spurred from that song With Kylie Jenner Like it wasn't

Because I wasn't getting hit up by Burberry Before that dropped or anything Yeah Like, I was just chilling, some kid chilling in the crib, and then all of a sudden, like, I get, like, they sent the box. What song with Kylie Jenner? It's called Beautiful Day. Okay.

It's called Beautiful Day. It's a song with Kylie Jenner. It's got Kylie Jenner, Justine Sky, and, oh, my gosh. I didn't know Kylie Jenner had a song. A lot of people don't know. I think I'm the only person to have a song with Kylie. That's crazy. But, yeah, it was Kylie Jenner.

Justine Scott and what's that Woods girl? Jessica. No, not Jessica. The black girl that used to be around? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot her name. I forgot her name. But her old best friend.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was just, like, me and Yadi was just in the studio one day. And we was recording a song, and they just walked in and they heard the song. And they was like, yeah, yeah, can we hop on it? I was like, yeah. Yeah, but hell yeah. Y'all got hop on it, what? No question.

But yeah, so I think the turmoil and the reason Burberry came after me was because a lot of people assumed that Callie Jenner said nigger on that song, but she did it. It was the other two black girls that was on the song, but they thought she said the N-word, right? So that's where it got a lot of turmoil out of it. So after that song dropped a couple days later, I get a box to my door and it's filled with binders. Like I opened it up. It's filled with binders. It's like, yo, this is, you must be present for the Supreme Court in New York. Like, wasn't all this, that and forth?

It had pictures of me wearing Burberry, like a Burberry print next to like some other print that I was wearing. Like it had like every instance that I had ever taken a picture, said Burberry or used in any reference. Wow. Like, it was binders of this, right? And then they were like, yeah, you had to appear in Supreme Court in New York for this. But how did you even get a relationship with Burberry? Like, what did it? Well, the Burberry Perry came from, I used to wear this Burberry scarf around town, and my name is Perry.

So, like, one day somebody, well, I think it was Nestle who started calling me that. He was like, oh, that's funny, Burberry Perry, started calling me that. And then he started calling me that. And then he started calling me that more and more often, and other people started grabbing that from him and started calling me that. So then I would just go around town, and everybody would just call me Burberry Perry instead of, like, Perry at the time. But, yeah.

So that's how I got coined. I mean, choose it. I actually didn't like the name at first, but everybody kept telling me I should have ran with it. Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, they hit me. So you were going by Burberry Perry at the time. Yeah, yeah.

As a producer. Yeah. So the song with Kylie Jenner comes out, then you get hit with binders. Binders, binders, yeah. Okay, and what's their problem with this? Their problem is that they sent me a cease and desist. I didn't respond to the cease and desist, right?

I just, like, posted it on Instagram and put, like, laughing emojis. Yeah. And they was like, oh, all right, we want to get this nigga with the binders now. Yeah. But they problem was like, they're basically assumed that I was selling something in likeness with Burberry or doing something. Like, I was using their likeness too much. It was basically that.

That's crazy. Instead of fucking sponsor you. Yeah, yeah. They want to sue you. Yeah, they wanted to sue you. And this is over the song. Why? What did you think?

That's why I was going to say. I think they wanted to sue me specifically because they thought Kylie said the N-word on the song and there was so much bad press around it. They was like, yeah, we got to distance ourselves from this. So they was like, let's cut dissoning out the equation. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

So that's what they did. Yeah. And so, like, and it's not even no. no hard feelings about it because like I even from time to time like they're a D. Pascal like the Burberry lawyer like I'll email him be like what's up like what's going on like how y'all doing then like respond he'll be like oh even all good so it's it's it's like not even no hard feelings hopefully something can be worked out down the road yeah you know they all come back around yeah yeah yeah you wouldn't mind him in the

burberry suit why he cited them treaties man yeah exactly exactly Like Burberry Perry, man, be on the lookout. Like at that point, like, did you feel like you made it? Like, damn, I made it. Like, Burberry's so little nigga. Like, this is like history in the making. Well, I didn't feel like I made it. Here's when I felt like I made it at some point was they, that's why it was funny

when you brought it the TMZ, like you was just watching TMZ in jail. So Burberry, and this is how I know this is what they did. they had a marketing budget to try and make fun of me online, right? Oh, wow. Like, they put out an article through TMZ says, Burberry Perry, you're 300 years late to your name, lacking originality. Like, that's what they put, as the was calling,

and then they put a picture on me, on the front page of TMZ. Oh, wow, bro. So they pay for that. Yeah, yeah, you're 300 years. All of a sudden, I got hella Instagram followers coming in. I was like, what's going on? It was crazy.

It worked me in favor, though. Yeah. Like, come on, y'all, y'all, you're so lame that y'all think that I'm some type of big ass super, super producer's store that y'all, y'all really turned to me up. Exactly. Exactly, bro. Yeah. Because I'm like, at that point, I'm like, fucking take the good with the bad fuck, burberry.

I would have posted my next post. I would have been burning everything, Burberry in my shit. That's what I went down. That was my whole process. That's where I went down. I burned all my Burberry shit. Yeah. I was on that shit for sure.

You should have dropped the Burberry disc track. I did too. Oh, no. I dropped the Burberry disc track, but didn't say Burberry. Yeah, yeah, at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The checkered boys. Color of the fucking stripes.

The brown stripes. Oh, God. Yeah, man. So, like, now with the music, going on like have you hopped in the artistry have you like are you rapping in right now or where have you been doing both

well I've been doing both because even on to go back to Yadi stuff like I was I was also like featured on a lot of the songs so I was rapping and producing at the same time but I will admit that that was the time when I started rapping like

I didn't I wasn't like rapping before like I was just like doing things on the computer But yeah, as of now, like, I've dropped, like, how many tapes? I've dropped a couple tapes. All of them have done pretty well. Yeah. And it's like, I can't complain about nothing that's been going on.

I've been working on new music. And it's been really fire because, like, I got, like, a, like, I got a sense of cohesion or, like, a sense of, like, I got, I could see what I'm doing now. You found your character. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Ooh, you put it right on the nose. Yeah. Yeah. You found your character.

You know what you're rapping for. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So it's fire. I'm working on these new videos. I'm working on some new, like, ways of creating content that I think would be appreciated

in a musical aspect. Because, like, you know how, like, for example, like, you make a video. like a lot of people like they just they'd be like oh I got a fire song I gotta shoot the video for this I'm thinking no treatment yeah no treatment no what's supposed to shoot it which is fire that's fire sometimes yeah yeah it's fire sometimes yeah exactly it's got it's got its uses but I also like I've been doing like these real like curated thought out videos of things where it's like not necessarily movies but like shorts that are better digestible with the music that I make because I wouldn't even know what category to put it in

the kind of music I make but yeah yeah so definitely you taking full control of what you got going on and rapping it sleeping on it dreaming about it exactly bringing a vision to life yeah because that's what I got to do for like my next visuals I'm getting old so it's like all right they won't be to keep wrap it up and keep wrap it but I'm not about to keep running gun and doing all you know what I'm saying this shit has to be something or they can just have it yeah but I don't think the stuff you put out

is like nothing or like I'm talking about the visuals yeah yeah that's what I'm that's what I'm talking about too like as far as the visuals you put out I think it has cohesion in the world that you already like yeah but see like I want to show like

the other side what I'm living. Like, you know what I mean? Like, let's really, like, show both sides of what foot in and what foot out really look like, like what the nigga trying to get away from the hood, but they really just pull it you in. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, that takes a level of awareness to, like, even see and, like, wrap up. Come up, man.

Like, one foot in, one foot out. It's like, I'm really two foot out. I really, like, fuck the game. You get what I'm saying? But my whole life comes from the streets. So it's just like you get sucked back in on accident sometimes. And it's like certain events occur where you have to, but you got to, like, in order to succeed,

you just got to ignore that shit. Yeah. That's what I've been doing. I just ignore it. It just work on this, it craft on this and my music and being a better interviewer, podcaster, and parent, you know what I mean? You're just making yourself a better person.

Yeah. But like, you know, when, like, I'm like, I'm like a big believer in like everybody learns the same lessons just at different times so like you being on that like like I don't I know this is completely different

but like as far as like family like for example like you from the streets like for me it's like my family will sometimes like it'll feel like they pulling me down because like they worried about so much other shit but I'm worried about like trying to elevate this whole platform of us

like that we got going on Like I'm putting on that. So it's like that pulling down is like, it's what's going. And they think that you're working for the wrong reason. Like they tell you like, what the fuck are you doing? It's like, all right. But then when the day come where I tell you, I told you so you'll be mad if I told you, fuck you too at the same time.

Like, you know what? Fuck you. You didn't believe in this shit. Yeah. Yeah, I go through that. Well, my family, like, they root for me. Half of them and half of them didn't believe in this shit when it first started. And, you know what I mean?

To where I'm at now, I just be like, hey, you know what I mean? Keep on doing your thing. That'd be the biggest problem. Oh, they were talking about you at work today. Fire, right? Exactly. Yeah, I mean. Keep it short.

It's hard, essentially, like, with your family. Because, like, they're the people closest to you. So you take what they say, like, the heaviest. Like, when they say something, it could even be like they're not even saying. it in a way to fuck with you. But like, it fuck with you. Sometimes just because it's your family. It's like you put them first before anything.

So it's like you value what comes out of their mouth to a point to where you just got to say fuck it. You know what I mean? So like in the future, what you got going on? What you want the world to know about Perry, Burberry, Perry, get Perry, you know what? Well, look out for me in the future as far as like 2024. first quarter, I'm definitely dropping something fire. I'm having, I don't want to give out too much,

but I'm creating a world. I'm building something that like people don't want to come like fuck with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I think that's actually what the job of an artist is to do. Like a lot of people think like, oh, I'm a rapper. I'm supposed to make music. But like, you got to remember like a rapper is just a suburb. category of being an artist, right? What is an artist's original job? An artist's original job

is to build out a world for themselves and allow other people to come live in it. Yeah. And like, that's why you like listen to songs and they're like, it got you somewhere. Like it puts you in a place. So I think it's like really building out that world that they live in. I like, I'm building out something fire, I think, for next year. And I can't wait for people to like even see what's going on. or like ingested or take it in because I think it's gonna be fired if a lot of folks gonna want to tap in as far as

when I'm building for sure. Yeah, for sure. And as far as the coins and Joe sign moving forward like the future, how do people even obtain the coin

and why is this coin even like sufficient to every day? Like why the fuck is it even a reason of me get this coin? And what's the purpose of the josan coin? Well, the purpose of the coin is to act as a fiat currency for a josan. Now, the reason for somebody to want to get in or be a part of it, I would say first is the community. Like, it's not a lot of communities of people that you are seeing that are going to help each other,

not just like business-wise, but also be like, yo, what are you into? Like, which direction are you going in? like that way so I would I was first and foremost joining because of that and and it's a lot of like-minded individuals that are moving in a direction that's what I like a lot a lot about like certain like what do you call them like certain um groups or like not even groups certain certain collectives like they know what direction they move in in and like there's no stagnation like there's no stopping for it yeah and um that's why I first and foremost would just be join Joe San. As far as like other things, if you are a person who got nonstop ideas in your mind

and a lot of the things that's stopping you from fulfilling these ideas is monetary problems or like I'm trying to figure out who, what market I need to tap into or like what kind of people or like this and that. Like Josan, Joe Son has like a ministry of patronage. So, you you register your business, you send in stuff to the ministry, and they'll decide, like, yo, we can allocate some coins to you. Like, you can, like, start working on this. Like, you don't need to, like, wait on nobody. Like, you can start working on this now. And as far as, like, building, like, if you have a real, a real, what is it called, a real hunger, a real hunger for wanting to build something. And, and, and, and, and,

you feel like it can go beyond, but you don't just, you don't have the people or you don't have the know-how. As far as that, you can like come to Josan and like every, it's, it's not DIY, but it's,

it's a helpful community of people. Like, that's really there. Helping each other out. And then, yeah. So if you had a business and you had a dream and you think your dream is really worth it, you can go to the ministry of Josan and pitch it. Yes.

They might actually allocate coins to you and you could figure out what to do from there. And like even like, even like if you need like little help with like, oh, I don't know which direction to move in. I see this here. I see this here. You like, we got Joson Discord, Joe's on group chat on telegram, like whatever. It's hundreds of thousands of people in some of them. And like people are just talking about like the things that they're doing and like what direction.

They're like, oh, can I, can somebody chime in? Let me hear what you got about. you hear about this idea. Like, it's cool. Like, there's an actual wanting to move forward. Like, you know how you hang around your homies? And it's like, like, not to say that your homies might be lazy or something, but, like, maybe they're not.

Of the same level. Yeah. Not on the same level, just as passionate about. That's what I'm saying. The frequencies are different. Like, you know, not on the same level, but like the level of frequencies. Like, you're not believing, you're not feeling this, how I'm feeling this. tap in with some people that might be feeling the same way that I'm feeling about the situation

because this is not your world. Exactly. And this is a place where there's multiple worlds going on. So how do you find the telegram or the Discord? Like, do you have an Instagram for Josan? Yeah, the Instagram is at Josan underscore Empire. There's also a Twitter. It's the same Twitter.

But the best place to even find out, like most of the things, information as far as like the treaties. I would just go to josan.com and just like look over the website, look over the white paper, see what like is going on. Look at some of the people who are involved and like be like, oh, okay. Let me see what I see what's going on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely need to tap in.

We don't want to give you too much gaming. Like just, oh, tap in for this reason, but definitely do your homework. Tap into Josanne Empire, man. It's been another one at no jumper with the good Perry, man. Yes, sir. It's the brick. Donnie, get us up out of here.