No Jumper - GRLA Hebrew On Why He Called His Mom The Devil, Getting Shot at 14, Polygamy & More

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

GRLA talks about his upbringing, his opinions, views, having two wives, and more! ----- 00:00 Intro 2:00 Flakko on being a part of the conscious movement and following Umar 3:20 Bricc Baby asks GRLA ...Hebrew what sent him on the path of the conscious movement 4:10 GRLA Hebrew talks about watching YouTube videos disproving White Jesus and being confused by the Bible 5:55 Brick Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about the beginning of time in a Biblical way or with the Big Bang 9:28 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about going to county, and using that as a reminder to not commit any more crimes 11:10 Bricc Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about his charges and GRLA Hebrew explains his old life 14:00 GRLA Hebrew learns about LA Gangs 16:18 GRLA Hebrew talks about getting shot at age 14 22:30 GRLA Hebrew on getting asked by the police who shot him and not snitching 24:30 GRLA Hebrew talking about being the big homie to others at 15 years old and dropping out at 17 27:20 GRLA Hebrew talks about bangin' 6 days a week and preaching on Sundays 35:35 GRLA Hebrew on meeting Sa Neter 38:20 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about his debate with Polite 40:10 Bricc Baby asks GRLA Hebrew about the Original man from Africa 46:30 Flakko asks about the original J and ghettos being created for places for J to live 50:45 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew if he believes White people are inherently bad or good 1:02:40 GRLA Hebrew talks about his White 9th grader teacher telling his class that white people were inferior 1:07:40 GRLA Hebrew clarifies his previous statement saying it was from seven years ago 1:11:37 GRLA Hebrew says crk era in the 80's is shared blame by Black people and the government 1:14:00 Bricc Baby talks about the lack of generational wealth in Black families 1:16:50 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew about CEO Reek on Clubhouse 1:20:30 Bricc Baby explains that Jesus was a real person 1:23:12 GRLA Hebrew talks about his talk with Wack 100 on Clubhouse 1:29:40 GRLA Hebrew what he thinks about Umar and his way of teaching 1:42:40 Flakko asks GRLA Hebrew on having two wives that are faithful to him 1:44:30 GRLA Hebrew talks about polygamy possibly becoming legal in New York Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. And we're back with, first off, what's your title? So it's Drillah Hebrew? Guerrilla Hebrew, guerrilla Hebrew. Guerrilla Hebrew. Yes, sir, yes, sir. Explain that. Right, so, Sineta, you asked me about Sinaita, right?
Starting point is 00:00:16 So, you know, everybody know New York for the consciousness, not really the West Coast, right? So I was young coming up out, you know, out here in California based out of San Diego when I started my ministry. And, you know, my name got to ring it. So Sineta heard about me all the way in Harlem. So he's like, all right, send me a video. I'm going to put it up. Usually back then, like, you had to show up 125th Street if you wanted to get on Sinata. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:00:42 So I was the first, he really let, like come and send him something like, man, you can't get out here. I was on probation at the time. I really couldn't move around like that. So he like, look, just send me something. Boom, but he was having trouble with my Hebrew name. My Hebrew name, Alazar. Alazar Baloyah, right? And what that mean?
Starting point is 00:00:57 Alizar Maloyan. me and God is my help. Okay. So if you read in Exodus, Moses, he named his son, his first son, God is my help. You know what I'm saying? God has helped me through all this, right, boom. And then, Bonooy and me son of Levi, my tribe, whatever. So he was having, he was, man, he was messing my name up every time.
Starting point is 00:01:14 He's like, man, we got to come up with something else. Let's come up with a nickname. So I'm like, boom, we going back and forth. And then we just came with guerrilla Hebrew. You know what I'm saying? Guerrilla. And then, you know, I was spelling it like guerrilla, like guerrilla, like G-U-E-R-I-L-L-A. People was Twitter.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Whisting that up. So then I just came, I started moving to, like, branding myself. That's when I just came with the GRLA. You know what I mean? So you could just sound it out. It's easier. Then I came with the acronym for it, which is God's righteous laws of veil, you know, and prophets to keep God's laws.
Starting point is 00:01:41 You know what I'm saying? Okay, so, like, you're from San Diego. First off, like, I actually had heard that before, right? Because I think in Omar Johnson got his, like, his, like, start in New York, right? With, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right? So, like, you know, that's a great pipeline, which is why. I always went until I talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:59 so I talk to, you know, SETI, right? No, Seneta, right? Because, bro, like, as a kid, like, so, like, my foundation, like, you feel, again, like, like, like, folks don't know. My foundation is the conscious community, right? Okay, okay, okay, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You feel me? I was a young YouTuber. I'm to my life, making videos back and forth about why Umar Johnson was not a scammer, and then folks was saying he, he is a scammer, then we were attacked. So my foundation is the conscious movement, right? You feel?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Now, you are, you are, from San Diego. Well, I'm not from San Diego. So I'm born in Tacoma, Washington. Okay. Boom. Yeah. When I was like 12, 13, boom, we moved out here.
Starting point is 00:02:37 So I stayed in L.A. for like a second, like over there, like Lederah Heights for like a second. Then we moved to Orange County. Then my parents split, boom. And then we moved to San Diego. You mind me asking how old you are? I'm 20, no, 232. Yeah, you grew up at, like Leder you went to parent? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I was only there. I was over there in the summer, like, for just a second. So what part of San Diego are you from? North County, Vista, Oceanside, that area. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Boom. That was the main place I lived in California, but I bet like, so my parents split, boom,
Starting point is 00:03:08 my mom stayed in Orange County. So she was like all over Orange County, Anaheim, Santa Ana, Garden Grove, areas like that, but I was mostly, boom, North County. Coming from like the West Coast, like you said, we're not really known for consciousness. Like, what made you start studying, like, studying? like religion or the stuff that you are into like who led you to that path of your parents or who who sent you down the path that you're going now so basically like so yeah yeah yeah right so basically it was like I kind of always had a pat my pops always instill
Starting point is 00:03:48 certain things in me as far as like you know black history black pride things like that boom so that was always up in me yeah and then of course we was You know, my father side is Haitian. My mother side is Irish. So we was hell of Catholic. Like, we was in the Catholic church. So I always had this, like, zeal for God type deal. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah. So, but I always had a problem with white Jesus. Like, I'm going up in the church. I'm looking up. It's this white boy, like, yeah. Something in me was like, nah, man, this ain't right. But I don't know how to disprove it,
Starting point is 00:04:18 so I'm just here type of thing. You feel me? Yeah. So, boy, I hop on World Store. One day, this is in 2008, 2008, hop on World Store. and I see a video. In the video I got a sign,
Starting point is 00:04:29 boom, white Jesus with the devil horns on it. This is not Jesus. Jesus is a Negro. Boy, I click on him on. Boom. And then I just get the crash course. The Hebrew is like, like, they're going through the Bible.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Look, boom, showing you how to prove Jesus is black and the Bible. All that. I'm like, oh, yeah, sign me up. Like, this is me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. This is where I'm going now. So I started, that was when I was 17.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So, boom, when I was 17, I just started. Then by the time, you know, I turned like 20. I start going full-fledged. You know what I'm saying? Start going full fled, you know, and now, you know, the rest is history. Now we're here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Wait, so, okay, so, like, when, like, you first, like, start, like, receiving the teachings. So what, I guess, like, did you see that say, oh, damn, bro, like, Jesus is black? Because I know there's, like, scriptures regarding, and his hair was, like, wool. His skin was, like, copper or bronze is if it burned in the furnace. So not only, we already know what bronze look like, but then if you burn it, like, come on, you know what I'm saying. So it's clear. But like that stuff we always heard, but like me going to church, it's like, I remember I tried to pick up the Bible one day, right?
Starting point is 00:05:33 I just picked it up. I looked at it. I was like, man, I don't know what the hell going on. I had to close it. Put it to the side. Like, yeah, nah. So I never really looked at it. So once I seen brothers on the street like going into it, like it's like,
Starting point is 00:05:47 all right, cool. You know what I mean? They can do it. You know what I mean? So that's how it works. So your take, do you? Are you going with the science over religion when it comes to how the world started? Well, no.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So essentially, you know, there's something called creationism now, a realm of science called creationism, right? Boom. So it's kind of like the biblical tape. But, like, you know, we don't really identify as a religion. You know, we identify as a culture. You know what I'm saying? We're trying to function on a cultural level and, like,
Starting point is 00:06:22 the cultural aspect of how our ancestors looked and viewed the world. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I was going as far back as Adam and Eve. Let there be like our Big Bang theory. Yeah, boom. So if you actually follow Genesis from the top, it actually kind of is in line with the Big Bang theory for real.
Starting point is 00:06:42 You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So a lot of people like in church, they don't really look at it like, no, that ain't it. But even like the concept of Adam and Eve, even the Genesis is not telling you them as the first two people. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:54 So they come kind of left. later type deal. So, you know, things like that, just understanding that and just having it opened up. Because when you deal with Genesis, like, the first few chapters is telling you, like, hell of history, but it's only a couple chapters. So you've got to really delve into it to start to understand, like, this is what's going on. It's not as simple as two people, a snake, an apple. Like, it's so much more going on than that. But, you know, they never told us that. So once, like, understanding that, it just made everything, it just brought so much clarity. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Now, like, when you discover, like, the Hebrew teachers, right? Now, was you just, yo, yo, I've seen this. I'm directly now, you know, like, I'm about to start teaching. I'm enlightening now. Or was you still, you know, like, you know, like just battling back and forth between my conscious, enlightening the side and the streets? Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much it because, like, I learned this.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I believed it. Boom. Like, I'm so sign me up. But at the same. same time, like the movement is not where it is today, right? Like where it is today, people hit us up all the time. Yo, I'm here. I'm in West, wherever the hell, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Okay, boom, I know somebody, we can link you up. Then, bro, they ain't never heard of this before. People looking at me like, man, so you're a Muslim? Like, I'm like, nah, and then they're like, oh, so you're a Muslim. You know what I just told you I want to, oh, but you don't eat pork, so you're a Muslim, you know what I mean? It's the beard, yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Like, nigg just automatically bringing me back to, because Because this is, it's not where it is now, where you got Kyrie and Kanye talking to stuff like, this is, I'm the first niggins heard of, you know what I'm saying? And then I'm encountering. So, you know, I still was, like, I was 17. You know what I'm saying? And I was talking about before we went on about athlete, you know, athletics.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You know, by the time I'm an eighth grade, I'm just analyzing life. What's the chance? How really skilled am I? What's the chances of me going pro doing this shit? I felt like it's low. You know what I'm saying? And so at that point, I start looking at, okay, well, what's feasible right now? I know what's feasible right now.
Starting point is 00:09:00 What's outside? That's feasible today. You know what I'm saying? Today, right now. Today, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I didn't care, like, I ain't going to lie. I kind of look down at certain dudes who was playing sports.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Not because not even on it with some square shit, but just like on some, bro, you're not that good, bro. This ain't fin to go. And you keep on going. Is this mic on? Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. I feel like it's, oh. Here, right.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Okay, so, like, while I battling with the streets and consciousness, you actually went to jail? Yeah, so, so, yeah, I went to jail. How was I, I went to jail? It was 2013, so I'm like 22 when I was jail. Okay. So, yeah, that, that essentially boom. Prison or?
Starting point is 00:09:48 No, just the county, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Devin County, signed my strike, you know what I'm saying? Did a little time, got out. And it was good to me, it was good for me to have a strike hanging over me because it was like that reminder like, I got too. Hey, listen, go wrong. Like, it's like God's, go wrong if you want to.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It's over with you. Keep playing if you want. Like, because again, I come in at 17, boom, I'm in the streets. It took me like two and a half years to really get involved. You know what I'm saying? Like, really get involved. So I get involved, boom. I go back up top, boom, to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I get involved with a group in Seattle. I come back, you know, things kind of go funny, you know, politics up there, you know, just internally, you know, things happen. We come into enlightenment, but we don't necessarily shake everything, you know what I mean, where people still, niggas be back biting, you know what I mean? Stuff like that, that still happens. Yeah, for sure. Cooner.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I'm not going to present this movement like we're just spotless. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't mess up too. You know what I mean? Don't get it twisted. So boom, I'm like, all right, let me get about it. I'm going to go back down to Daigo. I'm going to open up.
Starting point is 00:10:51 shop because ain't nobody opened up shop down there at that point. At this point, there was a group in L.A., but there wasn't really no Dago representation. So, boom. So what were you doing? Teaching on the streets. Yeah. So that's what you were profiting off of? What did you go to jail?
Starting point is 00:11:08 No, what did you go to jail for? My bad. You went into, like, you know, we're going to run into it. We're going to run into it. We're going to run it. I'm taking the stairs. I'm taking the stick. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:17 All right. So what is your original charge, if you don't mind me asking? My original charge is an attempted robbery and false imprisonment with violence. Okay. So what I was saying, were you involved with a gang first? Yeah, so boom, I'm going to run a set to. Oh, go ahead. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Let's go ahead. I'm going to send to it, right? So let's go. That's go even back further, right? Boom. Mid-80s, right? Mid-80s, we know what's popping. Prack cocaine, right?
Starting point is 00:11:42 Boom. Frack start coming up to fire freeway. So Portland, Tacoma, my hometown, Seattle. All the L.A. niggas is coming. South Central. Kind of there. Watch.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm at my time, but, dear. You know what I'm saying? So everybody coming up there, five with that, you know what I'm saying? So I'm born in 1990. So by the time I'm born, five, I'm from the hilltop, right? So the hilltop is like your first historically black community in the Pacific Northwest, period. The hilltop, it's going to watch, south side, it's going to watch it, boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So up there, it's going down. You know what I'm saying? Mid-80s, everybody from California is up there. Boom, everybody. So what happens is, you know, it's some younger brothers in the community. community, you know, they get introduced to this crippling. And they decide, look, we're going to resist this California shit. We're going to be Crips, though.
Starting point is 00:12:29 But we're not being from none of y'all shit, though. You see what I'm saying? That's dangerous, right? It is if you ain't got niggins that's right. Yeah, that's how you. That's not what you can stand for. Straight up. That's all about your militia.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And the truth of it is, that's like, that's how you really substantiate yourself at that point because, you know, a lot of people with the California stuff, like, they don't even understand. When you stand like that, the county niggas ain't going to do nothing but respect that. These niggas still tall on their cripping, man, what can we do? Yeah, what can we do? So, you know, in my community boom, they started some HTC to the Hilltop cribs. But then you still had individuals on the hilltop
Starting point is 00:13:12 that was dealing with different California stuff. You know what I'm saying? Neighborhood thing, Hoover thing, all that is going on too. But for the most part, everybody's trying to keep it communal. Right, boom. A lot of Compton do's out there too. Compton dudes can, nutty block, can't Santana, stuff like that was out there. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:28 My best friends from Seattle, like, they big homies before they started they're good homies was like claiming 9-0 and claiming Santana. You know what I'm saying? Like that, yeah. Yeah. And then, so mid-80s that happened, boom. So that goes on. So by the time I'm five, six years old, I'm coming up, I'm seeing that, I'm noticing that.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I'm recognizing X, Y, Z is going on. So, you know, my best friend. across the alley, like my best friend, he won at like 17, 18 brothers and sisters, all his big brothers, G-hommies. You know what I'm saying, G-hommies. You know what I mean? Original, like we talking about first generation of California direct, boom. Then when I go to school, because they was busing us, I go to school, my two best
Starting point is 00:14:11 friends in school, one of them dad is like the original, and then the other one, pops, which is her cousin, is like, close to it. You see what I'm saying? So I'm just surrounded. by it. Now, mind you, my family, we come from Haiti, so my family is not deep in the United States whatsoever, right? So I don't, so I'm being
Starting point is 00:14:28 embraced by all these other families. You know what I'm saying? I'm being like, adapted into families. So by doing that boom, it's by that association. So one day, boom, this is the second grade, we claim, we are school claiming, you know what I'm saying? It's about the time to start, you know, right in the hallway,
Starting point is 00:14:44 we claim it. He talked about you. You was getting cracking at 11, like, yeah, I was full fledged. Listen, that regular. It's regular. So, appreciate you. Because it starts right around first and second grade. You see your uncle's doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You're like, ah. I'll finish and go do this. I'm going to sneak and go do this. So we're doing it up at the school. Kid come to school. He knew. Talking about he's blood. We like,
Starting point is 00:15:09 And we're like, no, exactly. We like. It's over what? You feel me? A blood. Like. Overwood. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:15:17 A blood? Like, nah, we don't. We ain't got those. here. You know what I'm saying? Like, nah. So the teacher used to let us go to the bathroom by ourselves. Like, she'd just let us go. Oh, we moved on them. We moved on them in the bathroom. You know what I said? Like, nah, we put him pause on you. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, quickly. So he was out of school for a couple days. He'd come back to school and he told my bro, I'm a hilltop hoover, Crip. That was the first time I heard the word, Hoover, though. I heard that hilltop thing, Crip. This is the first time I heard the world. I remember my eyes was like, what's that about? Then a little bit after that, man, my mom, she showed me a movie. She said, I want you to see a movie.
Starting point is 00:15:54 South Central. I'm like, oh, this the shit that. Who would? You know what? You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, boom, boom. So now I'm realizing like, oh, this going on outside too. This, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:16:06 You know what I'm saying? So I end up going that way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I get the daygo, though. Ain't no representation of that where I'm at at all. Yeah. I'm by my damn self.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You know what I'm saying? So I'm going through things, trials, and tribulations. You know, in the first year I was out there, I already got shot. I already got shot. I didn't have nothing to do. I didn't. I just got shot at foot. It wasn't that major.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It was my last day. Yeah, in Oceansidegger. I was about saying? 14. That's what I'm trying to tell you. 14. You see what I'm talking about. Man, that's early.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Yeah, bro. It used to go down at middle school. At middle school. Middle school, Nicky, he used to go down. I lost a couple homies before high school. That's early, though, middle life. 14. You got to talk about somebody older or somebody around the same age?
Starting point is 00:16:50 It's a new. Broome in. Oh, man. How old is you, fly? 24. Oh, that's why. You're in that new generation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:56 It's different now. We didn't have, we couldn't keep up with a nigga on Instagram. We got to get on your bike, slide outside. In the middle of that, you see what's going on. In the middle of that, your family might be on drugs. So then you might have a little bar. You might be serving, nigga, at 10, just to put the groceries on the table around that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:17:15 know what's going on. I didn't have to go that far, but I definitely had access to the dope spot to have it play at 10, 11 years old. Shit that my dad and my mom don't even believe because, nigga, because nigga, I used to keep it so cool but I used to be where it was at.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Every day. Every day when I was a kid and I used to come back home. I used to be, I started smoking weed at 9. 8. When I first tried weed, I started buying sex every weekend at 9. I stopped smoking at 11 to play basketball.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Then I started back smoking at like 13, 14. You get what I'm saying? Like, by the time, I was already... Basketball dreams and workout? They've been fucked up because I picked the weed up. Like, no, I was hooping. I was like number eight Southern California. Like, I was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Like, like, point guard because, like, doing my thing. But like, he said, like, once they, I went to basketball prep school my 11 grade year, I didn't grow to six feet. You know what I'm saying? Mind you that. But I'm dunking and all that. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. But then I came back, they ruled be a legal transfer. I had to sit out a year and all that. Then they wanted me to go to school. So it's like I don't even get my 12th grade year to show off. You know what I'm saying? So whatever college is the job is I got. So I still went to a HBCU and I could have walked on to their program.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But when I got out there, I was with big meets of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what? Nick. What is you talking about some. It's over. The vision. Atlanta's different, man.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Hell, no. He already knows. I stay in Atlanta now. You know what I said? I've been back and forth from Atlanta since like, oh, six. Yeah. You flew out here?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Wow, that's crazy, man. Yeah, there's no jumper. We appreciate you for that, man. Wow, man. Your Honor, man. Hair, right, hair, right. Put up on you when we're out there, too. Yes, sir, yes.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Right, so, okay, so, like, after getting shot, and that's like, what? 14. 05, 05. Right, 5, right? Now, you then, like, you then, like, dropped, like, dropped out of high school or graduated high school? No, so boom. That's my last day, A break, so I'm going into high school.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Okay. But I'm put to you like this, right? You know, in all humility. Yeah. I kind of, you know, I'm like the crim deli cram, man. I'm going to rise to the top. You know what I'm saying? Wherever.
Starting point is 00:19:33 So it didn't take me long. I was less than a year in the, in the region. My name is already buzzing. I ain't even really done nothing yet. Yeah. Mostly from the female stuff like that. that boom, boy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Tall, eye skin, they go on the scene. He messing with the holes. We're hearing. Curly hair? You know what I'm saying? Like, we're hearing about him. You know what I mean? So, don't fuck all the holes.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And now he's a key way at this. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the way the politics was going at that time. You know, it's a gang of weed on there. And they wasn't, they wasn't doing no hood like, oh, we don't like, they were like. Yeah, no, it's cribs and that's that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 And that's that. Yeah, that's what I was trying to tell. It's like, when we was kids, it's like, oh, Nika, it'll give a damn to you from watching. Now it's like, but it used to be like, oh, yeah, blood, like, p. You remember when it was still when niggas couldn't wear red still? Yeah, in the hood. We remember how that, we saw all that change.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Because how old is you? I'm 34. Okay, so you're right there. So our time is when we saw that whole thing change. Now you see how the cripplinger flamed up, blood nigga blew down. You didn't used to see that back in the time. You know what I said? Niggas was always on dress code.
Starting point is 00:20:35 You know what I mean? Always. face. So, this, but yeah, on 14, boom, I get shot, boom. So I'm out there and it's going up. You know what I mean? Because, you know, my name's getting out and, you know, I start becoming the target. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Niggas like, oh, we want to get at him. I already got shot. Now my name is really out. So I'm starting like, damn, I'm out here. I'm a ten toe. I'm going to stand on my tent toes. But, you know, I can use some, I can use some help. I ain't going to cap to you, you know what I'm saying? And niggas was trying to give me to turn all kind of stuff, you know, because it's different, it's different crib gangs out there.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I fuck with, you know what, me. But a nigga's trying to get me turn and all kinds of stuff. I want to eat, even when I got shot, when I got shot, I got shot with the nigga from East Coast. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, bro, trying to, bro, was pressing me on. Like, come on, man, you know, just turn easy.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I'm like, bro, you know, I'm not, I can't do that. You know what I'm going to fuck with you regardless. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't do that, though. Yeah, yeah. I'm from where I'm from where I'm from. You know, I'm going to go back home. I'm going to go, you know what I go back home talking about that shit.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And it's cold because I always knew I was going to go back home. You know what I could. And it's cold. We're young. This is before the social media age. I could have been like so many people have been like, man, whatever I was doing, who cares? Ain't nobody going to know. It's a new life.
Starting point is 00:21:44 I'm going to just be a whole new person. But I'm always going to stay true because I was brought up properly. And that's what I say. That shit is instilled in you as a kid. Like even like I was saying like, don't snitch. Don't snitch isn't a street thing. Like that's some shit I couldn't do on my brother. They're going to get out of fun.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I ask with it. Like, if I tell my mind what he was doing, why she asking him what was he doing? And I start saying it, I'm getting pop. Shut the fuck up. I wasn't talking to you. I don't know. Yeah, like, man, like, God damn,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you was asking him about that. Trying to be honest. So it's like, even at school and principals start asking the niggins shit with the nigga guy. Like, man, I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I'm sitting here. You know what I'm saying? And that's the thing. So 14, I'm in summer school. after getting shot, detectives pulled me out of summer school, photo lineup. Like what happened? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Like, yo, like who did it? And you know what I'm saying? It was a Uso, a Samoan who shot me. I told the tell, I said, me, all Samoors looked the same to me, bro. I can't help you. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. At 14, wow, that's kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:47 And I know some homies that got shot early and kind of did they think thing, like, told the police then later on in life, like, dinkies got shot with his 10, 12 years old, told, like, niggins. You can't blame nobody for telling you. know at 12 or 14. Right? That's not how we were ready, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Like 13, 12, 13, nigga 10, no. I was not even saying 10. Let's say 12. Yeah, 10 you tell. 12 to 15. Yeah. Like, so I got people that did that
Starting point is 00:23:17 the toll that then got put on the, like I didn't know that. 12 is coming out that this happened or whatever. And it's like, damn, this be four years from the set. Like, but it's still like, you tell.
Starting point is 00:23:29 That got to home training. But you, was outside because they're not shinded shots to niggas that like I could see if a nigga was playing PlayStation and a book came through the window and he told like I see in this car here like yeah all right that's a young nigga but if you were outside and they bounced out on y'all and the niggas like walking you down that shit don't happen on accident too much okay it happens on accident but you were with a group of kids that did something to somebody because they came for you not, nobody's walking down on no kids.
Starting point is 00:24:00 So you was in some bullshit. No, facts. You know what I'm? You know. So you knew nothing to tell. Listen. You knew you was in that bullshit. Me?
Starting point is 00:24:08 I stayed my ass on the porch, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I'm saying is this nigga has been off the porch. Yeah. Of course, of course. You feel me? You know, like, nigga, you can't come to school after telling the other. Hey, it's bad.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Like, he just taught. I just got suspicity. Man, I know some niggies. checked out over shit like that. Like, nigga, he got me suspended. Like, we're whoop and cut every day. Every day he comes to school, he gets whipped until he transfer. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:24:37 He ain't got to go. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's how, that's how niggas was right. Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? That's how we was right. Here, right. So then, okay, so then, like, you, like, you, like, graduate in high school.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Then when did you, like, start teaching? No, wait. We don't want to skip. Yeah, of course. So, boom, I go to high school, going back to him. I'm 10 toes. You feel me? I went from turning.
Starting point is 00:24:56 I'm not doing none of that. Yeah. So one of the homies from Target, you know what I'm saying? From Target, Crip was like, was like, man, bro, just, you know what I'm saying? Bring some niggas home. I'm like, bro, I'm like 15, right? How I'm supposed to do that? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:07 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Just like, just like, just do it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? So, boom. You're the big homie at 15. I wouldn't call it the big homie, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:19 A little bit more experience, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. Yeah. If you've been in the field longer and you come across the things that you see got it and they just now starting to step into that realm, you could, you could, what do you call it, tighten up their game? Exactly, boom, showing the way, showing how they show me. That's simple, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:38 So, you know. Sharpen him up a little bit. He's ready to go. So, you know, I start, you know, bringing a few niggas home and through doing that, you know, now I got a little squad with me. You know what I'm saying? So now X, Y, Z happened. It ain't just me.
Starting point is 00:25:52 You know what I mean? Because again, I learn fast, even though you might mess with dudes from here or from there, when it's time to go. Like, that don't mean they're going to be feeling obligated to ride. You know what I'm saying? Something happened. They're not feeling obligated. Oh, now.
Starting point is 00:26:05 We're going to go do that. We got you. You know what I'm saying? Things like that. So I'm like, man, I need the team with me. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. So I built a team, not nothing too crazy because I already knew, too, like, quality is always better than quantity.
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's even. Absolutely. All of this happens. And it's all praise to the most high because all this has. happens to prepare me for what I'm inevitably supposed to do, which is teach his word. You see what I'm saying? Because now I build my organization the same way. It ain't about, I don't want everybody to be a part of this.
Starting point is 00:26:32 You know what I'm saying? I want quality, strong, built, you know what I mean? Niggas is really down. That's it. So boom, I go through that, go through high school, whatever. I dropped out a little bit after I start learning. I'm saying? Because I start, my mentality, like when you first, a lot of people, when we first start
Starting point is 00:26:49 learning this stuff, sometimes our mentality is wrong. We just turn into like, fuck it. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, fuck everything. It's all bullshit. But that's not really right. But you know, we go through what we learn. Now we could, younger brothers in the same position we was in, we could instill them with the game. Like, now, don't go that way. Finish school.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Do this through that. We don't, you know what I mean? We got to maintain here and we got to put each other on and we got to be able to look out for each other. And there's different information that we can pick up in all these different avenues of life. So we got to do that. So boom, but 17, I drop out, boom. I start learning this.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And, you know, but I'm still in the street. I'm still in the street, still in the street, still in the street. You know, stuff end up going bad. Boom, I end up going back home. Watch that, boom. And then I end up getting down with another organization. Right, like I said, though, going back, politics if you're funny, I come back, go back to Daigo. I go back to Diego again, like going back, I kind of, I got this whole thing cracking in Vista.
Starting point is 00:27:39 And that's outside, boom. So now because of that, when I'm with the homies now, I'm trying to do this, when I'm with the homies. You see what I'm saying? Absolutely. Six days a week, I'm gang banging. One day a week, I'm teaching the Bible. Sundays? Sunday.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I was teaching on Sunday. We usually teach on Saturday now, but during this time, I was teaching on Sunday. So Monday through Saturday, it's cracking. You know what I'm saying? It's whatever. And when I come back, the homies was in conflict. You know what I'm saying? We was in two conflicts at that time.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You know what I'm saying? So I'm back and it's on, too. So we're trooping. We're putting in the hours. We're supposed to be doing. But then on Sunday, I'll be back. I go to teach the bike. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah, one foot in. One foot out. One for now. One for now. Like jumping one side of the fence to the other. Yeah. Yeah. So that eventually caught up to me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:28:31 That eventually caught up to me. So what happened was, you know, I had lost my place. I was staying, me and a little homie. And, you know, I always feel the obligation to him because, you know, his pops. His pops died when he was like three. There was in a car. Train hit the car. Crazy type deal.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Yeah. Right? So we was just outside. You know what I mean? like we just outside and I'm like all right like damn that you know what I'm saying we we slept in like damn we slept uh and like we went he took me to some like luxury apartments he took me some crazy ass way some luxury apartments and we slept like in the bathroom type deal they had the propane uh which I'm called it grills we turned the grills
Starting point is 00:29:07 on got warm went back you know what I mean hold now I'm like damn that like hell not so we go about a high school I see a white boy serving he's serving shit he's serving shit boy him he's serving everybody I said oh yeah I'm trying to get him like It's on. We're going to get him. I just watched him serve everybody. I need some money. He's got the money.
Starting point is 00:29:24 You know what I'm saying? So boom, I go to the car. I'm like, yeah, man, get it up. Ah, whatever. I have two little homie standing in the back. He pull out, boom, hit their ass. Boom. Hit them, whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So I get away on foot, like a mile, on foot, boom, taking cuts, whatever. I'm gone. I got away. I thought. Somebody in the crowd see me who I went to school with, right? My government name, whole, no. Whole rundown. Hold on the whole run that, right?
Starting point is 00:29:50 He's like, yeah. They pointed me out from the middle school yearbook. A word? Yes, yeah. Wait. We remember you. Do you have, like, like, like, like, I'll have to brazen tats yet? No, no.
Starting point is 00:30:03 The judge does? No, okay. My first case, I was in high school, but they pointed me out from some middle school and shit. Yeah. It's like 10 niggas, though, who looked like you, right? I had a whole different school. It wasn't even at my school. I thought I was straight.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They thought you were straight. Number two from the football team. Let's exactly how they got And I was just like that but so here's what's crazy though The incident happened in April Yeah I didn't get the warrant don't go out from me until December
Starting point is 00:30:27 God damn So here's the thing Going through I was doing that one for them One for the out shit You know things started becoming apparent Like bro You gotta stop this boy shit You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:30:37 You just gotta get right You know what you're supposed to do like It's like I was giving a golden opportunity and I'm squandering it You know what I'm saying But me the problem with me was like I want them to me I was never looking for a way out
Starting point is 00:30:47 You know what I'm saying? Like, when niggas you say, I'd be like, oh, this nigga watered down. You know what I'm saying? Like, way out. Like, ain't nothing but to say it. You know what I mean? Like, what else is?
Starting point is 00:30:55 What else is there alone? You know what I'm saying? But, like, God really showed me, though, like, nah, I got some. I'm telling you. And what he showed me is the only other thing that can really do it for me, too, like, because this is about all black and Hispanic people.
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's about God. It's about liberal. It's about all. It's everything encapsulated into one. So this is the only thing that really could possibly be more important than it said, anyway is all of us and God. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:21 Like that defeats everything. So, so I come to the realization, okay, cool. So boom, I'm on a straight and narrow now. Boom, probably like the whole 2012, towards the end of 2012, fuck around, get involved with a little bit of politics. All of a sudden, war go out. I said, damn. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:41 He got me. You know what I mean? God, he got me. He got me. Oh, you want to keep fucking around? All right, cool. I miss Staling. And here's the coldest thing with me, like, out of everything I did, reckless, anything,
Starting point is 00:31:53 bro, I never went to jail. I ain't did no juvenile, nothing, right? I probably did one, like, they caught me outside late, locked me up, let my stem my uncle get me in the morning type deal. That's the most. You know what I mean? I didn't got away with retarded shit. So in my mind, I'm like, oh, God love me so much.
Starting point is 00:32:11 He ain't never going to go to jail. Word go out. Yeah. You thought, nigga? I got it for you now. So, boom, so I'm moving around cool for like a month. Boom, we go to teach. They lock me up because they already,
Starting point is 00:32:23 because they've encountered us there, write names down, boom, they know where to find me. Oh, that nigga, he's going to be teaching, boom. They come like me, I'm like, damn. So, you know, during my time in the county, it's like, you know, it's an amazing experience because it's a negative experience, but you understand what, like, what's so bad about it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:44 People always put, you know, they scare straight. It's not even that. It's like, boy, you're wearing somebody else a draw a million niggas wore. Period. Clothes. That shit.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Cocks. You know what I'm saying? You're in the shower, public, like, this is bullshit. Oh, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:59 the Lord showed me like, bro, you know what come with this. What come with this is that. You might get something that got a little brown bar going down the back of it. Wait,
Starting point is 00:33:07 like, Nick, I ain't put me on. Like, shutting the door on you. We're going to come back. We got you. Yeah. Never come back.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I didn't strip down and give you this. I gotta put this shit on. Do you like... Nigger throw the blues on with no drawers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, niggas love with the no drawer. No, that's crazy, man. Shit, man. And that's how miserable is.
Starting point is 00:33:27 What's the shit, Mark, drugs on? Then in over two, like in coughing with your ass will open. It's crazy. Yeah, nah, that's what you got to do. It's dehumanizing, man. There's a niggas to... Then they're going to get up on you. Imagine a gay niggas.
Starting point is 00:33:39 What about, what about... Nah, it's already... All right. So, so they already separate them from us. We don't even go through them. through processing together. Once they say that that's what they are. Like.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But gay CO. Yeah. They got it their way. It's a sausage party at that motherfucker. Imagine like he's coming back to like his gay friends. Tell him, y'all listen. I see, Grish asshole.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I see that nigga asshole. And they put in the flashlight, regrit. Oh, man. Not regrit. Bitch. You feel? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:34:09 A type of shit, man. Total dehuman to say. Yeah. But how was your, your Tommy County, man? Man, I mean, it was just like I said, it was insightful because it's like this is what stuck out the most of me.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah. I'm seeing young niggas come in. I'm seeing old niggas come in. I'm seeing people who, a couple weeks, somebody on a 10-day flash, I'm seeing niggas is getting ready to go on the chain and go to the pen. And it's like from 18 to 45.
Starting point is 00:34:37 This is it, bro. You know what I mean? That's all that was sticking out to me is, you want to keep doing this, this is it. Trips to the county. church to the pen. You know what I'm saying? This is what your life will consist of.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Or you can go this other route. I showed you, dumb ass, and avoid all that and actually be able to do some good as opposed to do some bad. You feel what I'm saying? And actually deviate other people from going this route. So it was clear to me.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So boom, they come in me with a deal. Look, sign for this strike. You'll be out in 30 days. I'll take the strike. You know what I mean? Strike and then, you know, GSU, I got off the gang suppression what like, I think the last
Starting point is 00:35:14 eight years after my thing so like two almost two years ago okay almost two years ago so you got to file as a gang members yeah walk around with the bullshit ass card you know what I'm saying all that you know that you know and that's like Nazi Germany and that's dehumanizing because if they catch you out boy they can strip you naked in the street oh you know we gotta see if you got some new tattoos I don't even have any tattoos we gotta see if you got some new tattoos no that's crazy man photograph you're a terrorist to them man so you get out And probation, and then when did you go to New York
Starting point is 00:35:46 and link up with Sanetta? Or how did you do that? So, boom, I hit the ground running when I get out because the whole time, too, and that would be the thing, too, that is a positive of jail, you could think. You got time to think. Okay, when I get out, this is what I'm going to do, period.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I'm going hard. I'm going hard. And that's what I got out. I said, I just got to go hard. Like, I know what I got to do. So I get out, boom, I start going hard, going hard, boom, name starts ringing. And then Sonnetta, like, boom, like,
Starting point is 00:36:11 yo, can I get you in Harlem? like, bro, I'm on probation, boom, what can we do? So that's when, like, the live on YouTube really first start coming out. So first he put my videos up then, but he would bring me on the YouTube lives. We do it like that. I probably end up going to New York doing to like, okay, what was that? We went to New York. That was 2017 or 2016?
Starting point is 00:36:32 17, 2017. No, hell not. That was 2016. 2016. We end up going to New York, 2016. You feel me? And that's when, like, boom, okay. I'm bright lights, big city.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Harlem, you know what I mean, we, uh, 125th Street, Times Square, we doing everything. And I'm like, the first West Coast nigga to do it. I mean, I'm the first one to do it. So that was a beautiful thing. You know what I'm saying? Because they always look at us like, all we care about is gangbanger. Gang bang. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah. I got one question. So you, you've been on the east. So do you guys politic with the Moors? Yeah, yeah, like. Because they like, for the native, they, they, they, We're cool, put it like this with everybody. But they're based on Islamic.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Exactly. So basically it'd be like this. We cool, but we always gonna have our debates. Yeah. We always gonna go back and forth on, you know, whose information is right in this act. You know what I mean? But you know, we good.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Like, I'm essentially like, we had, whack had us having the debates with a nation of Islam on clubhouse. Yeah. He's still my dude. I still rock, Ben X and all of them. But we was begging, though, for sure. We was bringing it with her.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. And I think that caused some, like, trouble as well, right? But, but, like, we definitely will touch on that, right? Because I think, like, like, that actually, like, got back to J. Electronica, and that led into some, you know, some other issues, right? Oh, for real? What?
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, I didn't know that. Right. He posted it on Twitter, like, like, y'all should talk to the real, like, like, him who actually knows the shit, right? Uh-huh. instead of coming forward to little niggas, like, you know, right? Uh-huh. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:16 But, all right, but you met up with, with, hair, right, with, like, Sineta, right? Now, when did you and brother Polite debate happen? Because that right there broke the internet. Yeah, so I had, so Polite was, he at first start coming to L.A. Yeah. And he told somebody to call me, he was like, you know, this, this, this is the champ on the West. He's the representation out here. So let's talk to him.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So boom, we end up. The son said, what was we at? We was at the standard. We messed around. Went up in the standard. He got a room in the standard. And we did something in there. That's before the one you saw, though.
Starting point is 00:38:54 So I met him there. It was cool. We had our initial exchange. So that when you seen was probably a couple years later. But it was like seven, what is it? Twenty. One question, though, right? Was you like kind of like, yo, because like there's videos of like,
Starting point is 00:39:11 like brother polite, like, you know, like doing like the debates on the street, right? When you were like, them there like and ambush these Hebrew dudes like just teaching. And he bodied them. Yeah. You feel me? Were you like, damn, like, yo, like, I don't see him body these like other, you know. I guess, I guess like newer teachers, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 You feel what I mean? Like, damn, brother. You feel like I don't want that smoke. Or like, yo, I've seen his debates, man, bro, that's easy work. Put it like this. I felt like it was going to be easy work. But the beautiful thing is, like. everything seemed easy till you're there, right?
Starting point is 00:39:44 You know what I'm saying? Until you there. And it's like I learned, again, that was an amazing experience because I learned so much from that. Like I tell people like, now people look at me as, as far as in the conscious realm, like a top debater, like one of the names, like you get me, the ratings is going to be through the rooftop deal.
Starting point is 00:40:02 As soon as I went to go look you up, I went to your pen. So you was, you drew me in because I study people, bro. I study vibrations, energy angle, all that stuff. You know what I'm saying? I'm on that little alignment. Yes, sir. You know what I'm just starting for real, but I'm already in tune.
Starting point is 00:40:18 You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. I've seen you say that the first form of human being was black, right? Yes, sir, yes, sir. Was it, go into that a little bit. Okay, so brief. Or am I throwing you out from what you're doing? No, you good, you good.
Starting point is 00:40:35 What, right? So, like, and that leads, though, into the, like, the, like, debate, polite, right? So, yeah, right? So, like, that's perfect, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, Rachel, touch on that, right? So touch on, but the first human beings, and then what's your view on white people? Because I feel like that leads into the better polite thing. So you go ahead. Yes, sir. So essentially, of course, the original man, you know, coming from Earth is a so-called, you know, is a melancheted person of people of color, right? You go all over this planet Earth. The soil is different shades of brown. The darker, the richer. We understand that. But different
Starting point is 00:41:08 shades of brown, right? From your color to my color, right? From your color to my my color, your color. That's what color the earth is. Period. We come from this. That's what we come from. So boom, that's the original. So going back to even like I touched on with Adam and Eve, when you really pay attention
Starting point is 00:41:20 to Genesis, there's a collective creation. Like there wasn't just two first people. There was a collection of people. And then out of those people, somebody was chosen. That's Adam. He was chosen out of everybody. And God said, okay, this is the people who I'm going to deal with. These people, I'm going to plant them.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I'm going to set them as, what they say, he made them like the Lord of the Garden. He was the ruler over the garden. There was other people in the guard. Like I said, the tree. Like, people read trees. If you just skip to the book of Ezekiel 31, it tell you trees are groups of people. Think about it, your family tree. It's a family.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's a tree, but it's people. So that's essentially what was going on. So that's where it comes from. So you go down the line and you skip to Genesis 25, and this is when you start hearing about white people, right? Which is Esau. Boom. Esau come out.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Esau, his name or his name was changed to Edom. Right? Edom is red in Hebrew. It's the transliteration of the word for red. Yeah. Because they said when he came out, he was red all over. So we go back to the original people, right? People ain't coming out the womb, red, because everybody is coming with that melon.
Starting point is 00:42:21 We know who come out the womb, red. You know what I'm saying? So boom, that's where they come from. Or even redish. Or even redish, you know, that tent, right? Boom. So that's where they come from. So that's the Edomites.
Starting point is 00:42:32 So as we look at the history of the Israelites and the Edomites, the Edomites are like the mortal enemy of the Israelites. Then you look at all these prophecies and these prophecies and these prophetses. prophecies talk about the Edomites and what the Edomites was going to be doing and all the evil things that the Edomites were going to do to the Israelites. So once we go through deducing it where the Israelites through the prophecy through history, archaeality, all the things, because we go in West Africa, we go in the Americas. We have all the artifacts. You know what I'm saying? Of Hebrew, we have the Hebrew culture and custom that we carry, even when we discontinued from it, we still carry part of it.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Even to this day, like ghetto, we say we live in a ghetto. Anybody can look to where ghetto up at me. the part of the city where the Jews live. Yeah, period. So why is it that we live in the ghetto? Yeah, period. We got to be the Jews then. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:16 Or even knowing Jesus is. But if Jesus is black, then what his people is. I mean, he was black, the rest of him was white. Come on now. You know what I'm saying? Well, here, right? So, like, it's two things, right? Okay, so somebody could say this, right?
Starting point is 00:43:30 Because I think I've heard, like, this argument before was, brother, like, Issa was an albina. You feel I? He's still black, but, you know, right? But, right, coming out as an albino, like, don't mean that, like, your kids won't be black, you feel me? Yeah, true. Right? So, what's your response to the people saying, yo, like, Issa wasn't why he was albino?
Starting point is 00:43:52 So, essentially, in order for them to exist as a people, they would have to initially have been albino. Okay. And then that albinism had to be so strong because we know we got dominant traits and recessive traits. Yeah. But you can look at any family tree and you can see when recessive traits come dominant. Like, you might have people who have people who have. with dark skin, but they got colored eyes that run in their family. That means
Starting point is 00:44:11 that trait that was recessive, it tirked, and it became dominant in that gene pool. So what happened is they were born initially albino, and then that albinism became dominant in their gene pool to establish them as a whole people group that looked like this. You see what I'm saying? So do you feel like
Starting point is 00:44:28 there were Africans on this earth, I mean in America with the natives? Because you got to think they got our color and all that. like this of year so it had to come from somewhere I feel like that's where that's how the spangers and everything they knew where the land art stumbled up on the land we already had claims of land boom but how you feel about that so pretty much is that least so I believe that the people who
Starting point is 00:44:54 initially came and inhabited north central and south America are Israelites so when you study the history Israel Israel end up splitting into two and they start beefing with each other boom the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom what happens is the northern kingdom just disappear nobody can't tell you where they went and according to the prophet ezra in the bible he says that they went to a land where nobody lived then when you flash forward like you said with spaniards columbus he credits ezra for why he came over here yeah you see what i'm saying yeah so all that's a part of the story so exactly but we the the important thing to understand is because you got like like like a i'm sure you know about dan calloway yeah right you got certain people that's on this black people of the original
Starting point is 00:45:35 Because the Harriet Tubbin never existed. All that crap. But there's partial truth because, yes, there were people that look like you, look like you and look like me that was over here. But the problem is our people would be so color-struck sometimes. We don't understand. We've always been from dark to light. We've always been that.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Go to your family reunion. And you mean to tell me your family reunion ain't dark to light, bro? You know what I'm saying? You got light. We got everything because if you're the original people, then you possess all these traits that create everything anyway. So it's all going to exist. So yes, there was.
Starting point is 00:46:05 dark-skinned brothers here but they were also ones that we know that like we see today your average typical Mexican or Native American all of that existed you know what I'm saying it always has existed here it's not just one way or the other way so how essentially God's divine plan are reuniting this family that split up and start beefing with each other was through what happened to us over the course of the last 500 years colonization of slavery that's happened to black Hispanic and Native Indian people that all was a part of the plan of really a family the reunion and then we're supposed to come together and rise up together up out of the
Starting point is 00:46:38 bullshit. You know what I'm saying? That's kind of the mission that we're on right now. Yeah, right. Now, I think you said, so like the Jews are, sorry, like the original Jews, the ghetto was, like, made for, right? Now, some of them might say, well, like, after the Jews, like, left the Holocaust and they were, like, sent to the ghetto, but through triumph, you know, like, they actually, you know, and, you know, but I guess, like, elevated and out of it.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Again, like, I just know surface level information. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. Yeah, right? So, like, what's your response to that? Say, not, like, blacks are in a ghetto now, but the ghetto was created and invented for them. Well, the ghetto, even going back before,
Starting point is 00:47:19 their ghettos existed in Europe, the ghettos that we had was, like, in Egypt, like, because the main place where the Israelites were when they was leaving Israel was in Egypt, in Alexandria, the oldest synagogue in the world, is in Egypt. So even when you understand, understand that, that's where it all makes it.
Starting point is 00:47:35 So you mean to tell me these people were here, here, and there. But it ain't us? And they talk about Egypt. Like, it's not Africa. Yeah. No, like it's floating somewhere and not connected to nothing else. It's crazy. That's crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah. Like, wait. It's Africa. I'm looking at the map. And quiet as this cap, Israel is too. It's just right there. How do we separate? If you look at it tectonically, like the tectonic plate is on.
Starting point is 00:48:01 is after Benjamin Ninnahou tried to join to get Israel to join the African Union if you're not in Africa how are you going to join the African Union because they reject all like when Haiti tried to they were like nah y'all ain't in Africa
Starting point is 00:48:14 y'all can't be from this you know what I'm saying so it just but but but Benjamin Ninnahou's application got taken more seriously why because he actually is right there you know yeah of course but now okay so Eidomites right
Starting point is 00:48:25 now now the Eidomites were known for doing atrocities right yeah now Again, because again, right, you are another brother, right? Yes, sir. So I'm trying to phrase this question really properly because I know, like, you want to have a career outside of shit, right?
Starting point is 00:48:43 You feel me? And the first thing is this, right? I appreciate you. Right, you feel me? And the first thing we know is once people start to see you, you know, like I guess say too much truths, they now, like, draw clips that are out of context and try to say, you see, and he said disparate. So, right, so are you saying that,
Starting point is 00:49:01 the descendants of Edomites are white folks. Yeah. And Edomites are evil or, like, just explain that in full context of, like, yeah. Well, everything we got to deal with generalizations, right? Yeah, of course. Sometimes people get, like, too caught up on everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's take it down to a micro level.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Let's say you got two gangs. They don't like each other. I hate them. Nigg will get them whacked out on his face. Yeah. But there's one, two, maybe even three four niggas from over there, he don't feel that way about. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:38 So in general, he has a dislike or a disdain for this people. But that doesn't mean every person in particular, bro. Even racist white people, everybody got their favorite. Literally, no, but because look, like in Georgia, bro, Hershal Walker, man, then white people put, some of the white people who hate niggas. But they make sure to campaign for Herschwomen. Walker, and he almost got that Senate seat, too.
Starting point is 00:50:03 He's for sure. For sure. He for sure the wife's favorite nigga. I woke up one day. He was debating in the courtyard in one of my buildings. I'm like, yeah. Man, Herschel Walker, it was cold because all like, he even talked like it right next.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Bro, on YouTube, during that election time, in Atlanta, every advertisement was an anti-Hershal Walker advertisement. Every single, it was his ex-wife, wife. He put the gun to my hand. I was like, yo, there ain't no way he could get it. And then wife goes to do. His son, too, wallet.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You know, his son is cold. Bro, that's, bro, listen. That gay nigga cold, right? I got a lie, bro. Right, that's a gay nigga? Bro, bro. What happened? He was on camera like pressing Kalani,
Starting point is 00:50:42 but like, yeah, bro, bro. He's a, bro, he's just an annoying little gnat, right? But I, so do you believe or don't believe that people are inherently good or evil? I believe in people being inherently good and evil, for sure. So I believe that either might so-called white people in general or inherently evil, right?
Starting point is 00:51:03 I do believe that 1,000%. I believe that there's a segment of our people that are predisposed to evil, too, but the difference is I know that through, you know, the teachings of the most high, we can turn that behavior. And understand what I mean inherently evil. I don't think that every white person walking around is Dillon-Storm Roof, a serial, Jeffrey Dahmer. They say DNA is like over two million years old.
Starting point is 00:51:30 like they got trace of DNA. Like if you do everything together, like they say DNA is like two million years old. So you have to inherit everything that comes with that DNA, no matter because you're like a new strand though because you're a mix of this DNA with that DNA. No, that's, you've been getting mixed for so long
Starting point is 00:51:53 and you picking up so many different traits from everywhere. Yeah, from everywhere. And to his point, it's, When you deal with like behavioral traits, especially, you inherit those things patrilineately. So fathers pass them down to their offspring, patrilineately. So when we go back to Esau, that's the individual who pregenerated the race. I don't like using the term race because that's a social construct. That's not even real in the first place.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Anyway, race how we understand it. But that nation or that ethnic group of people, he pregenerated. So they all have that inherent nature. And the thing about Esau was when you read the story, Jacob and Esau in the Bible, Bible, Jacob being the progenitor of Israelites, Esau was jealous of Jacob, so Esau wanted to kill Jacob. That was Esau's motive.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I want to murder Jacob. I'm jealous of my brother, Jacob. Mom likes him more. Dad likes him. You know, stuff like that. So that was inherited. So when we see a lot of the treatment that we've been getting, especially this last 500 years as a people, this is why. A lot of this has to do it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Because some of these same white people who would turn around and use racial epithets, racist ones, they'll still go get in the tanning bed. Well, why? Why are you trying to get closer? They'll still go get their lips plump. But why? I thought that was ugly.
Starting point is 00:53:11 And if the tanning bed don't go right, they're going to spray them in the color brown. No, right? You're orange. Yeah. But DNA, though, right, like provides us, like, for example, right? Like, our IQ, our features, right? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:24 I feel like, for example, like, good and evil, like, or like, or, or, like, social constructs, right? Meaning, like, you feel like, right? Right? Like, we define, you know, like, we're good or evil. Right? So, I don't think that, like, good or evil is passed out. Like, for example, like, the offspring of Ted Bunny and freaking Jeffrey Dombus combined
Starting point is 00:53:46 don't come out. No, they're going to be serial killer. Like, for example, Ted Bundy is from my hometown. Yeah. My mom used to hang around with his brother. He changed his name. because he didn't want nobody to even know that. They're like, you know, we're not associated with that.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So not so much to that. But also here's the thing, we live in a world in 2023 where, you know, white people have been able to develop a country and a construct that's beneficial. They don't have to operate how they did when they pulled up to America and when they pulled up that. They don't have to do that. They don't have to show it.
Starting point is 00:54:25 They're 10 laps ahead. So they're cool And a lot of them are like I mean what's the point of even doing that Like it's cool now You know what I mean whatever So things would be different If circumstance was different
Starting point is 00:54:38 And we would be able to see that You know what I'm saying But we don't now Because circumstances are how they are Even with saying like evil Like I was saying it's a thin line Between good and evil anyway It's like all right
Starting point is 00:54:50 You see a man go rob a bank Or go lay something down And he go just go rob something in order to get some money, but this is a man with felonies and all that stuff that has no way to provide for his people. He's been trying to application for the jobs that ain't been working and got zero dollars.
Starting point is 00:55:07 He go out and take something, right? He looked like the villain to certain people. Exactly. But he got four kids at home and a pregnant woman or whatever. He's down on luck right now. He goes back and feeds his family and provides for, he took that money to go.
Starting point is 00:55:25 So you're looking at him, evil is a villain and they looking at him as a hero. It's hero. You know what I'm saying? So it's like certain shit is just plain out evil, but certain shit, when the motive, you don't know what the motive is
Starting point is 00:55:38 in order to call the person evil. You know what I'm saying? So that's a deadline between good and evil because I might have to do some evil shit in order to provide and be good to the people that look up to me. That's why the Bible say, despise now the thief
Starting point is 00:55:52 when he steal the satisfies his own soul. You know what I'm saying? We know somebody went and took something, but it's wrong, but I mean, damn, he had to do some. So that's where the understanding comes in. Like, I get it because going back to my charge, that's what I did. I try to take something down because, man, what else I was going to do? I had my little homie with me.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I feel obligated. Danny ain't around. His brother, you know, gay, you know what I mean? His big bro. So it's like, he's looking at me like, you know what I'm saying? What are we going to do? You know, a friend of a little homie too. He locked up right now.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You know what I'm going to pin right now for a robbery. You know what I'm saying? Another situation, as he got older, he went to try to do it again. You know what I'm saying? He locked down now. So, you know, it's like you said, though, it was a means to an end to try to do something good. It's like if you're starving, if you starve and you can't eat and you go outside of a grocery store and steal a piece of chicken or do whatever, steal some food, they shouldn't even be able to charge
Starting point is 00:56:48 nobody. Yeah. No, give me a ticket, man. I'll pay y'all back. Like, yeah, no, it ain't even not pay y'all back. It's like, damn, you know he got to survive. Like, you don't know what he's going through. Like, I wouldn't even...
Starting point is 00:56:59 If a nigga broke in my house and went in my refrigerator and stole my food, I wouldn't even be mad at him. Straight up. You get what I'm saying? If he went in and took all the money out of the statement... Yeah, you get what I'm saying? But if he came in and just took down all your food
Starting point is 00:57:13 and you're seeing the camera... Man, whatever. And you walk back out, locked your door and all that. He got it. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn, I feel... But I'd be looking for him. Like, man, here.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Let me go get you some more food. Your next time they just asked me. Yeah, just let me know. You can lock on this door the next side. That's the question, though, right? So it's like, okay, so, like, what exact, like, what exact traits or DNA, I guess, like, passed down and through the, I guess, like, the lineage of the Edomites that you
Starting point is 00:57:40 will say, I can see, you know, like, you know, and these certain traits that were gifted and through DNA, that, that, like, points to inherent evil. Okay, well, number one, just behavior, right? So just in general, everybody inherits behavior. That's why, like, people's mom will say, man, you act just like your daddy, right? But here'll be the cold part. Some people get told that, never even met their father.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Don't even know their daddy. Didn't see him and we're able to emulate any of his. It's just inherent, right, in that aspect. And the University of North Carolina did the study on that. But then also, even when you get into the biological makeup, like, there's a lot of music. Everybody, what makes everybody unique is mutations, right? Mutations.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah. But when you go from original to, you know, like, Caucasian people, a lot of mutations had to happen in order for their appearance to occur the way it does, right? So even with some of those mutations, it does make them predisposed to certain behavior, addictions, things of that nature, right? And this is so anybody could fact check me on any of the scientific research on that, boom. But overall, I would say that especially if we zoom out, because when you look in the scriptures, oftentimes, God would pronounce judgment against a place, against a people. he wasn't getting individualized. Oh, he cool.
Starting point is 00:58:56 So not like, even with Abraham Begant, Saddamayor, bag it, man. Look, don't destroy it. Right, what if I could find 50 good men? All right, what if I could find 20 good men? Find me 20. 10, 5. After 5, he just gave up.
Starting point is 00:59:08 All right, I can't find 5 good men. I can find one good man. You know what I'm saying? So God said, man, I'm not going to say this place over him. I'm not. You feel me? I'm going to destroy that. We're going to give him a back door up out of here, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:59:19 That's a lot. The story of Saddam Gamora. Boom. So God deals. in general when he's bringing judgment to a place, look at what our people have experienced the last 500 years. The good ones didn't get a pass, right?
Starting point is 00:59:30 So in the same way, there's plenty of white folks that ain't never did nothing wrong, ain't never called nobody, no in one. Nothing. But guess what? If the judgment comes, if what goes around, eventually comes around, they don't get a bail out. We didn't get a bell out.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Why they get a bell out now? That would make them better than us, Would you standing on your beliefs when everybody was going against us? It's like, all right, you ain't racist, but is you telling them they wrong? Yeah, and how hard are you going on that? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're not standing on business.
Starting point is 01:00:06 You can say, oh, you're wrong. And would you still letting it go on? Like, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, you're a part of that. Yeah, and even like I was watching, I think they did a show it was Bone Sharp, Gina, Almighty and Adam, right? And they was talking about the reparations thing in California. And then Almighty was like, well, that got to go back to the South.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Like, niggins don't know. They were slavery in California. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, interracial marriage, I want to say like in the 50s or the 60s is when it finally got legalized in California. Like that's here. So there's a common misconception that all that stuff just existed in the South.
Starting point is 01:00:42 No, that was everywhere. Yeah. Everywhere you got farmland and product, somebody was picking it. But do you consider yourself... White, blank beer, yeah. No, do you consider yourself a racist? I mean... Because you know, like, the comments are going to be...
Starting point is 01:01:00 See, black folks who... Right, so, again, I want to make sure right there, like, my brother leaves her with the full contact. Yes, sir, yes, sir. So people don't, you know, again, like, take like a three-second clip in a time for me, right? You know what I'm saying? Right, yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:01:17 So, like, when the comments say, you are racist what's your response to that man I'm for what I'm for I'm for black Hispanic and Native American people first foremost and at the forefront yeah and ultimately I believe that through forward and our cause will attain world peace yeah but I believe that the original people got to get back in their original mind and set the world straight yeah and that's the only way we're going to be able to do that I want harmony between all groups of people I don't want nobody to have to deal with poverty,
Starting point is 01:01:48 untimely loss of loved ones, things of that nature. That's horrible, right? But the scriptures tell us, when the wicked are in power, the people mourn. When the righteous are in power, the people rejoice.
Starting point is 01:01:58 All over this world, what do we see? Mourning, starving, famine, war, problems, everywhere. So that tells you who's in power. So if we ascend back to our righteousness and we, you know, manifest our power again,
Starting point is 01:02:11 what we'll have is people rejoicing, happiness, harmony, throughout this whole world. That's what I'm going to be. about what did you think like the first step for us coming together would be oh wait let's just touch on yes sir the racist part first though right oh yeah go ahead yeah right so someone will say if you believe that blacks are superior to whites you are a racist okay they can ask me that or i could just be a biology student because when i was in freshman year biology my teacher
Starting point is 01:02:42 mr barton the white man told all the white kids in their school that they were genetically inferior to the people of color in the class. Yeah. See, you know what I'm saying? That was from a white man, 9th grade, before I even got into any of this stuff. He said that,
Starting point is 01:02:53 and he explained why that was. He explained on a genetic level. So I don't even think there's a disputation of that. It's scientifically proven. I mean, we could just look at several arenas. We could look at sports, and we can look at, but to hell with sports.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Let's take a look at NASA, right? What's that movie? Taraji P. Hidden figures. Yeah. They wouldn't know how to fly a rocket if it wasn't for a black woman's brain. See what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:21 So it's not even just in the sphere of physicality because oftentimes we always go to sports or music, our ability to entertain. We're past that though. Our minds are, you know, think about you can't put up to a stoplight. That was us. You can't put a windshield wiper on.
Starting point is 01:03:38 That was us. The Native American Indian invented the syringe. You couldn't get a shot if it wasn't for them. You see what I'm saying? So our minds and our bodies, our contributions to this earth are a testament in addition to the scientific facts, the empirical scientific data. So if I'm saying, if I say that, which I will, I'm just being a realist.
Starting point is 01:04:00 It's not even, it's not based on a predisposed hatred or feeling the negativity towards any group of people. It's just a fact. Yeah, right now, that leads us into like the viral clip now, right? I'm not sure if maybe it's like seeing the clip, right? where he, so you and Brother Polite Worthy Beaton. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And then Brother Polite brought up like your mama being, being like white, right? Yes, sir. And then, yeah, so just, I guess, I explain it in full context. Perfect. What question was asked to you? So he asked me,
Starting point is 01:04:36 are white people the devil? Yes. Then he said, is your mind the devil? I say yes, right? Then he asks, is it wrong to kill a white person? person. I said no. Wait, hold up. In fact, sorry, explain it in four context.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So basically, he walked me down, right? And this was such a lesson for me in learning how to debate. Because that's, I just walk niggas down now. That's just what I do. But I had to get walked down first to see how cold it was. That's a cold nasty game, though. No, it is.
Starting point is 01:05:11 But I learned from really dealing with him, that's how you got to be. You got to be straight to the point. Like, this is what I stand. There ain't nothing. Nigget, these are the facts. You know what I'm saying? You go against these. You can't go against facts.
Starting point is 01:05:22 That's why they fax. That's it. You can go ahead and argue with yourself. If I back it up with facts, there's no argument. You're just mad. You're just mad at the truth. You're just mad at the truth. You're like, nigga, there's no argument after this.
Starting point is 01:05:34 You're talking about. You just mad at the truth. So he knows, see, us as Israelites, you know, it's the same thing in the streets. It's the same thing in the streets. It ain't nobody bigger in the program. Just because that's my mom. don't mean now we get to change the rules for her. She's now the exception.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That my emotions aside, of course I love my mother. But I put my emotions aside for that. You know what I'm saying? But even then, though, going back, reflecting and really studying the scriptures, I was wrong even saying that, what I said. It was a misunderstanding me even saying that that I didn't have. Not a misunderstanding in the moment, like a misunderstanding that I had at that time. Going back, that was wrong for me to even say.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Yeah. And what was wrong was? I think, okay, so he walked you down, is your mom the devil? Yes. So if she's the devil, and would I be wrong if I killed her? And you said no. Exactly. And then that clip, I posted that clip with a clip, which is why, like, I think it was
Starting point is 01:06:32 like kind of like strategic, right? Because I got like sent that clip by like anonymous. I'm talking about like it was somebody with like 12 followers, like a thousand people saying, yo, like this clip. right here is going viral posted, right? I wasn't even aware that that clip was from like years ago. Bro, that's like seven years old, bro.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, you feel me? Right? So, yeah, right. So once that clip went viral of you saying you won't be wrong for, for, like, killed my mom now, and you stay, you know, that, as you look back,
Starting point is 01:07:05 you realize that, like, you were wrong for saying that. And that's if you can kill it. Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? Forget that, bring it down. And also, like, if you watch the thing in the store,
Starting point is 01:07:15 I said, that don't mean that if I was near my mom, I wouldn't write, like, yeah, yeah, you know, you know, you can get it. Go and try it. Go and try it, like, pretty much. And it's, like, you go ask the, you go to say they're going to ask the sheriff about what I do behind my mom. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a, that's a substantiated fact.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Of course, documented. That's documented, you know what I mean? So, but, but even understanding that, like, no, reaffirm, ask me the question one more time. Yes, right? So, now that you look back. And you're saying that I was wrong, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Now, so what further teachings, teaches that you learn? Okay, boom. That, you know, like, now at least to that. Okay, so basically, essentially, the frame of mind I was coming in was, of course, nobody's been in the program, number one. And then number two, there's a law in the Bible about how to wage war, right? Basically, before you wage war, you first declare peace. You give everybody an opportunity first to have peace.
Starting point is 01:08:10 That's what you do. That's it. I'm going to go for peace. the first before anything I don't care what we doing it can be an op right there I'm gonna try to find the middle ground because I was bought up on different virtues
Starting point is 01:08:22 like you know what I'm saying we can't find no peace in the situation we gotta move in we gotta collapse we gotta put the press on we gotta do it it's extreme prejudice after that
Starting point is 01:08:33 yeah yeah that's basically what the Bible says you declare peace if your peace is rejected extreme prejudice total stum period but but the thing is it's very specific
Starting point is 01:08:43 in there when you're at war with people be at war with the males. Don't be a war with the women. Don't be a war with the children. So that's the clear thing. So my premise was, okay, we've been in war for 500 years. They've been killing, they've been doing everything.
Starting point is 01:08:58 It may have changed how it's executed, but the war is still going on. They're still, every year, they're still lynches, hangings. They have all types, they can, they build prisons. They build all type, they know how they, to end our program.
Starting point is 01:09:14 They're trying to shut it down and they still can't stop us. We're finding ways from behind bars to manipulate their women to bring in. Like we got phone. Now we're writing books. We're being able to study right there.
Starting point is 01:09:29 The stuff that they don't want us to have in the law library or in the library in the prison we can study as Google. You can't hide this information. So now you're seeing all these geniuses that you have behind bars or just in our culture period
Starting point is 01:09:43 is plenty, like, real genius. Like, you would never know because they'll never have a platform to show you or he got 30 years to life and he probably don't make it off the yard. You know what I'm saying? Joe Laibutti did.
Starting point is 01:10:00 That's what I'm saying. Nobel Peace Prize. Come on, man. From the joint. You can't stop greatness. And in the show, that's when, like, we all got to come. That's what I was trying to ask,
Starting point is 01:10:12 It was really a question like, what do we do in order to get everybody on the same page to let people know that they can't go against this right here. It's almost like impossible if everybody's on the same page. They didn't trick this and hating each other everywhere. You got what I'm saying? That was a part of the plan too. They put crack. They signed.
Starting point is 01:10:36 They made the FBI to stop us. Straight up. That's what he said to stop. Look up by the Over. Wait, wait. I've heard that crack argument a lot. But like,
Starting point is 01:10:50 it still took the adventurous Negro to go ahead and find the crack to bring it back to the 15th. Everybody was doing part of it. We didn't know how to, we didn't know how to, what I'm saying is you got, you see what it's doing in the households.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And then you dump it on freeway rickson all these people. You, the government was giving niggas the dope to sell. And that's declassified. In the area. That's why they knew where all the shit was at. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They know where it's at because they know where they distributed the shit. Right. But I can't blame. This is my phone tracking devices. But I can't blame an outsider. I blame the individuals who accepted that and destroyed their communities for, like, profit. Now to address that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:33 You're not wrong. You're not wrong, but you're also, you're right, but you're wrong at the same time. What I mean is we have to blame them. Yeah. But also, accountability does have to come on ourselves as well for our own hand and our own demise. So that's why, like me, I'm putting you like this. On the Crip level, I got a Crip theory, right? Walk with me.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Cripping. Stage one Cripping. How they invented it. They're just banging Crip, man. It's good. We're going all over the city. We're taking leather jackets. We're doing what we do.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Nigger this Crip. Level two, Cripping. I call that criming. People could say only the Hovers do it, but in truth, everybody does it. If you're a Crip and your main enemy is another group of Crips, how are you not criming at that point? You can you ain't whacking the Cial, but basically you are though. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 01:12:20 You are? You're like I'm about to say. And that's the only thing I really felt what Tuckie was like, I ain't doing nothing to another Crip because that's like suicide. Exactly. It's like you really, you really, because they don't do that at all. The other side, you don't do that. Ain't anything bigger than to be,
Starting point is 01:12:36 and they don't really beef with each other like that. So it's not really yet. Like it's, now it's, starting to be like, yeah, they'd do it, but then they'd cut that shit out. Yeah, they'll be able to find a resolution. That's a Crip thing. That's for sure a Crip thing. From the start. Yeah, because at the end of the day, I feel like if we didn't beef with each other and we left
Starting point is 01:12:55 it at, man, it's already way more than that's getting nobody who could possibly fuck with it. Yeah, nobody. But then stage three crippling is the acronym, Community Revolution and Progress. So we're sending to the point where we go, okay, look what we didn't did, you know what, that ain't it. that's now start moving towards positivity. You see what I'm saying? So that's the key thing.
Starting point is 01:13:15 So that's going into kind of the realization of what do we do to our community. Okay, now how can we start to reverse it? How can we bring these young men up in a better way than what we was brought up in? You know what I'm saying? And to go back about banging Crip and take it, the thing was they wasn't even banging Crip. It was the Baby Avenue Cribs that was after the Black Panthers. You know what I'm saying? And so the baby were the kids that were coming up under the Black Panthers.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And they didn't get all the lessons. They used to hold canes and stuff. Yeah, yeah. But why they was outwiling, because they were only supposed to be police in the neighborhood. But, you know, when people veer off and get deterred from the main focus, they outwiling and they take a leather jackets. And the police don't know that they're saying cribs and they're holding canes and stuff. Yeah, so this is the crips.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Mm-hmm. The crips. You got said, the police really gave us the Crip. Put that in the newspaper. Yeah, they put it in the newspaper and then like, fuck it. That's what it's Crip, man. Oh, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:19 I know. I know that. Yeah. It's going back. Like a lot of people don't know the history. You don't know where. That's where they don't know where they're going. They just, you know in the circle.
Starting point is 01:14:29 So it's like when you see a Crip doing something positive or even just a gang, period, doing something positive, that don't go against. but he stood on. They don't tell us, hey, go fuck up the community. This, like, defend your area. Like, don't let nothing happen. Can't nobody come over here, sell no dope. Can't nobody come over here to do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Make sure they don't deal with our old ladies, or the women in our community, the kids. If they try to do that, crash out. Now people are making it an ego thing. You have I'm saying? There's no longer protection involved. And that's where the drugs, I feel like the drugs and the money came in and kind of started
Starting point is 01:15:09 it divided and conquered. Like, you know what I said? Like, the more I could control, the more money I could have. Fuck all that other stuff. All that, all that unity, that's out. You know what I'm saying? Like, because now you got these people over here
Starting point is 01:15:23 that it can be a gang of dope fans and while you putting them on, they're smoking dope and they get in the female, they're going to steal. So you can't. You understand. You can't stop. That's going on.
Starting point is 01:15:33 And that's how the economy works. Yeah, and that's how it's just started falling apart. They're like, how did crack? Because it took. because it took trust out of the community. That's what it did. The drug was so good. It took all the trust.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like, you got somebody kid still in their mama refrigerator in a dryer and this that and the other. Like, don't nobody fuck with their kids. All right, we ain't, you know what I'm saying? So it's no more generational wealth. It's a whole generation that got deleted. And the ones that stayed strong through it all, it wasn't too many of them. So now when you're saying these people dying out,
Starting point is 01:16:06 I was supposed to keep this property, but I'm a dope thing, and this property is worth $750,000 when my parents died. I'm selling this. It's no way I'm keeping it. How I'm going to pay for it? Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm selling it. I'm going to fuck off the money.
Starting point is 01:16:21 So you're supposed to really keep it. And that's supposed to be the kid. That's how you're supposed to keep up. Yeah. You're supposed to go on to the next. We've got that one. Now you see what, like, how Hispanics move. That's why I like the way they move.
Starting point is 01:16:35 They go. they all here, bump, we're going to buy this house, we'll move next house. All of us, we're coming to the same street community. So now all of this, this is us. This is our family. Of course. Right here.
Starting point is 01:16:46 We don't have to go outside. We can knock down these backyards and make it one yard. You get what I'm saying? And that's what we miss it a little bit. Of course, but now let's actually get to, first off, right? Now, and C.O. Rink. C.O. RIC, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:03 So, C.O. Rink. Now, this is a. story that I heard. It was on Clubhouse, but I didn't really interpret it like this, right? Okay, okay. So when Searreek was on Clubhouse, I just seen him
Starting point is 01:17:13 as a good dude, you know? Yeah. But apparently, you know, and he was reping like certain cripsets. No, blood. He's playing. Yeah, right? Right?
Starting point is 01:17:22 Right. And he was reping certain blood sets. And then I think Wack. Rake. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Reek. Yeah, I think he baby Rick on. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Yeah, right. And then Wack, I think. exposed the fact or somebody, like, posted a picture. A picture him with me. Where he was with you and the Hebrew Israel. I'm talking about from the top to the toe, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that lets some people say, yo, C. O'Reeke is a fraud.
Starting point is 01:17:49 He's not a gang member, he's a Hebrew-Israelite. He has an identity crisis. So that you actually came on and stood up for him. Yeah, right? Because that's my God. Yeah. Years. Yeah, well, I mean, let's bring that down.
Starting point is 01:18:02 How does that? Go ahead. Yeah, so like, basically people were, Like, people try to spend a narrative, and I'm like, so I came in a room and, you know, do have, because I'm in the picture. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's me in the picture. Like, you know what's going on? What's the problem? Both Lyskin brothers.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Yeah, he's like, oh, you know, Rick was Israel like, okay. And, you know what I'm saying? And he was from where he's from before. Like, we all come from something. You know what I'm saying? Like, period. You know what I mean? So, and then we go through a transition.
Starting point is 01:18:29 But what happened with him was, you know, he was in my organization, which my camp is called Sakari. He was with us. And, you know, some things transpired, boom, you know, and we went our separate ways. So he started doing his own thing for a minute. But everybody can't do that. Everybody not cut out to really build something from the mud. You know what I mean? And he kind of just, he went back, he went back left.
Starting point is 01:18:52 You know what I mean? And he didn't stop believing in this or nothing like that, but he kind of like turned back to the streets. But I always, I always fuck with him, period. He know he could call me any time. So the first time he on Clubhouse with Wack I come in the room I don't even know it's him I hear his voice I text him
Starting point is 01:19:10 I'm like, nigga that's you? He's like yeah he started asking Wack Israel like questions Hey what do you know about the Israelites You know about black and Hispanic people being Israel like Ah he started doing that So then from blue he started rocking with Wack from that point
Starting point is 01:19:20 So from there now I'm like All right well I'm plugged in over there then that's cool whatever they're going Whatever they're doing whenever I get on a clubhouse So there's that So then all of a sudden They try to come out like they're expose him, like they expose him, like, they caught him, like, doing some crazy stuff or something.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Like, yeah, he was doing that, you know what I mean? He stopped doing it. It's not nothing crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, he got caught, like, telling her with, you know what the man, touching a little kid or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, he was an Israelite. Like, what's the issue? It's a million homies that go and they Muslims. Exactly. And they, this, that, and the other, like, it's a lot of people that I know put their religion. Black ain't been on the yards long enough anyway to be able to judge nobody because you'd be banging a religion too at you had some time like that to tap in with to enter you you if you take jail and take away to party and study yourself if you don't study nothing else study yourself and know what you're
Starting point is 01:20:20 going to be able to do with yourself like you know what you're going to do because now I'm so aligned with myself because I'm in here alone you get what I'm saying like you might reason something where you come across something and you feel like Jesus was similar to your story. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened with me. Like, that's what I started calling myself Blue Jesus. People think I'm just like the crib
Starting point is 01:20:42 guy. Like, I was reading this book. I still got it at the house. I can't remember the name right now, but I was reading a book and it was showing like facts. Facts that Jesus was real against
Starting point is 01:20:57 like the fiction. You get what I'm saying? And it was just pointing out like, why does he exist in everybody's book? Now, there's historians that were jotting down shit, and he never exists at all, and he wasn't a prophet. Why are these sightings or these? Why are there so many references to him? So he had to be him. He probably didn't, like I was saying, he probably didn't walk on. They never said what type of body of water it was.
Starting point is 01:21:27 They said Jesus was walking on water. they never said like now when you put your own metaphor behind it you know what I'm saying you get a body oh he couldn't walk on water or part in the Red Sea
Starting point is 01:21:39 like I'm not saying none of this didn't happen but you don't know what like like he could have been the first person to successfully travel the Red Sea if you want to get technical
Starting point is 01:21:50 you get what I'm saying and I don't want to dig into too much but people be getting too caught up in like the over literalization as opposed to getting the, what's the moral of the story? Yeah, let's get the moral of the story. Yeah, now you get that.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Because that's how you can apply it to your life. Thank you. And that's all I'm saying. So when you go to jail, you study yourself. And you know yourself. And you know what I'm saying? Like, you can't, you can't fight him because he felt like he spiritually relates to this group of people.
Starting point is 01:22:20 You get what I'm saying? No, no, no, no, fuck. Period. And that's, that don't make you less of a man. Straight up. That don't make you less of a dimeu or a keyweight. Exactly. And it's just manhood.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Like you said, when I was in the county, I'm doing my thing. I'm teaching everybody. I'm teaching everybody to Bible. But guess what? Did I turn anything down? No. No.
Starting point is 01:22:38 You know what I'm saying? You don't come back there and get that issue too. You trip it? All right. We can do that. You know what I mean? Anybody who was locked up with me would tell you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:46 But I was definitely teaching niggas the Bible too, but wasn't turning nothing down, neither though. You know what I'm saying? So it's just a balance and it's a matter of, you know, like he said, man, studying yourself in the sentence. So, you know, and, and, and, you know, and re kind of, you know, he went backwards a little bit. And Wack spoke on it.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And I agree with him when he said that about, man, you went backwards. And that's true. He did go backwards. And I told him that. I told him that myself because I'm always going to, he know he's going to call me. I'm going to be real. He'll call me on FaceTime one time. He's smoking a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:23:17 I said, bro. Come on. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know better than that. He's like, man, come on. You know, I just got shot. I said, bro, I got shot. I ain't started smoking Newport.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Come on. You know. You got shot? Yeah. God damn. But this is before the clubhouse. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:32 So, you know, it's like... I ain't know Rick was on that, man. But I'm always going to be there for him. That's my bro. You know what I mean? Period. So when all the stuff start happening on a clubhouse, I'm like, you know, I step for him. This is before, like, the stuff between him and Wax start going on.
Starting point is 01:23:45 You know what I'm saying, the stuff with him and whack start going on. But I was there was there for him, I'm calling him, counseling him through the whole thing. Like, you know, bro, like, there's nothing. Nobody can't tell me about you because I know you. You know what I'm saying? So can't no next person come and say, oh, I don't care about none of that. This is my guy.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I know this, brother. You know what I'm saying? Period. You know what I mean? Been in these streets teaching the Bible. And again, me and him ain't supposed to even get along technically. But this breaks down. That's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Like our group out here, boom, over in the 60s standing next to each other. Boom. Beautiful. Up north, our Bay Area camp, or Nortano or Serr with each other. Boom. Our Chicago can't.
Starting point is 01:24:22 GD. BPSN. With each other. We're breaking. MS. 18. street with each other. Like, we bring all that together because we understand this is about something so much bigger than all.
Starting point is 01:24:32 It's about all of these people that have got the shin end of the stick for the last 500 years coming together under God, following God's cult. That's the only thing that can really supersede everything is that right there. So that was like, when I heard it, I'm just like, yeah, sign me up. Like, that's it right there. Boom. You know? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:53 Yeah, right. So they title it, though. Like, they title like the clip. Hebrew Israel Presses Wack or something like that Not like... Presses or stint or steps for CEO reading. Yeah, yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:25:07 So, was there any type of like conflict there? Like with you and Wack? No, no. I ain't never handled conflict with Wack. Like when he had came up here that one interview and he was saying shout out to the Israelites and the nation of Islam. That was one of the brothers up there in debate.
Starting point is 01:25:21 You know what I'm saying? Okay. So I didn't ever have no issue with him. Now, okay. So I speak about the debate. with you and the Israelites. One, how did that happen? And two, like, what about that particular debate, like, cause so much conflict?
Starting point is 01:25:38 Because, like, I think, like, after that, you know, like, Wack had another, you know, like, I guess encounter with the nation, and that wasn't, you know, a, you know, a pleasant encounter. So why was that particular debate, you know, like, so bad? So what happened was the nation of Islam, was doing a room and Wack 100's room. Yeah. Want a Wack, a bodyguard to work with Wack, Pitbull is in the nation of Islam. Yeah, F-O-I.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah, boy. Okay. So he's doing it and he got brother Ben-X up there, which Ben-X is my guy. I met Ben-X. I rock with Ben-X. Me too, yeah. That's my dude. I grew up with Ben-Bin.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Oh, where? Oh, so you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so they doing that and brother from another Israelite camp, I should be K, Captain Azariak, he's infamous for debating polite. Mm-hmm. And they press up in there like, look, we just want to ask a question. Boom. And the Quran is say, you know, if your wife acting up, go upside her head.
Starting point is 01:26:34 We want to know about that. Now, the thing is, what we always made clear was we know the nation of Islam is not with that, does not condone that, it's not beating their women. We know that. But we're trying to point out our issue with the Quran and why, look, Farrakhan already came out and said we to Israelites. We know this already. We're trying to just get everybody on one of a court type deal. So they came and asking about that. That caused a ruckus.
Starting point is 01:26:58 So then boom, I was doing at the time with sleep. So what was they reply? I wasn't there for that, right? I heard about that. Niggas started calling my phone. They thought I was there. I'm like, bro, I wasn't even there. So the next day, I was doing a room every other Sunday in a club called Sleepless in L.A.,
Starting point is 01:27:13 which was the original room that Wack was in. Yes, I love sleepless. Sleepers. Every other week was doing a room called that in the Bible. Me and my man, BMAC, right? The Christianeal District took over here. Yeah, boom. So it was Christian.
Starting point is 01:27:23 All them was around, right? So we was in sleepless, we was doing the room, so the next day, that's all everybody's talking about. So I'm like, well, damn, I'm speaking on a little bit. So then, you know, Captain Dezoria, he hit me. He's like, boom, we finished line in Ohio next week. We're doing the debate with them next week. All right, cool.
Starting point is 01:27:40 So we come in there, we debate them. Then they're like, all right, we want to do it again. Who won them? Next week. I mean, you know what I'm going to say yes, but anybody can go listen for their self and see how. As Bed X was there or not? Ben X was there for the first initial time.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Yeah. So by the time we go back to line him up, yeah. Ben X is just in the, in the ghoul, he don't come up. Mm. Smart man. So a couple, Nation of Islam and my man Rodix from Seattle, who's one of my brothers' cousins,
Starting point is 01:28:10 he came up and he was like, fuck, I'll take the bullet for everybody. So, man, we just start pinging. Everybody, we just start picking on it, you know what I'm saying? Oh, no. Wait, hey, hey, hey, if the little nigger came in point in point in front of you, like you. That don't count as an actual debate, though?
Starting point is 01:28:24 Well, yeah, but he was there, but he didn't want to come up. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying, you know, Ben X was scared or intimidated. I think it was more of a... Let y'all do your thing. I don't want to have a problem between this, so I'm going to just let it happen type deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:38 So, you know, we did it. It was a lot of fun. You know what I'm saying? It was a lot of fun. So the first time I got my punches in, but, you know, I was trying to, because it wasn't... I didn't set it up. It wasn't my program, so I don't like to come in stepping on nobody toads,
Starting point is 01:28:51 by and by and. all that, but the bro who set it up was Camrazor, he told me then he was like, nah, like, he was like, nah, nigga, don't hold back this time, bro, go in. So, I just started, I just start going in. The third time. The third time. The third time, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:04 Now, that's what you two. Now, like, okay, so now the part two was with Brenn-X was there or no? Ben X was in the GOO. Okay. That time, yeah. There were more, the first time, yeah. The first time there was, okay, so the initial time
Starting point is 01:29:16 was the initial thing Ben X was running the room. Yeah. Then, that was Saturday. Then Monday we came, Ben X was, wasn't there, but there was a lot of other N-O-I got out there. Then the next week, he was just in the goal. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:29:29 I, yeah, right, because, yeah, like, like, that, like, sparked off into some, some, some, some other stuff, you know? Yeah, it kind of got hot. You feel me? It got some, bro. Oh, yo, also, too, man, like, what's your take on Dr. Omar Johnson? Man, educated brother. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:48 It's highly intelligent. Now, now, like, the schools opened up. I think he said February, I don't know, like 18th like that, right? Oh, praise. That's beautiful. I'm glad to hear that because, you know, like you said, people were trying to say he was scamming. Blah, say, blah, say, blah. You know, people don't know what goes into certain things.
Starting point is 01:30:06 You know what I mean? Like, the type of time and effort it takes, like, ain't none of us opened up a damn educational institution. How we post to know what it takes, what certifications, what, bro, we don't know. You just got to dream. Now you got to go walking down. Actually do it. So he raised a dough and it's getting ready to open up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Beautiful. You know what I'm saying? I can't do nothing, but salute. Applaud it. Like, ideological differences aside with anybody, I got to salute any form of progress. Like even Tariq, there was a time I wasn't really feeling Tariq until I watched his first video with you. Yeah. And I really just sat down and listened to Tariq.
Starting point is 01:30:41 You know what I'm saying? And my issue with Tariq was I felt like he was being purposely antagonistic towards immigrant groups and, of course, you know, I'm Haitian. You know what I'm Asian? So I'm going to take that personal, but because also Haitians have a lot of contributions to this country. Don't get a twist. There's no Louisiana purchase if we don't whip the French ass. There's no Chicago if we don't go find it. We even helped in the American Revolution as quiet as it's kept.
Starting point is 01:31:08 So we have contributions to this country as well. But the foundational black American did build this. So I respect that. And I understand when I heard him talk about equitable relationships, I feel that 1,000 percent. She's got to be mutually beneficial. Yeah. The foundational black American can't just keep getting the shit end of the stick. And then just in general, like even growing up when people go, oh, what are you?
Starting point is 01:31:30 You say, boom, somebody said Haitian, I'm Jamaican, I'm Costa Rica, whatever. And then, you know, I'm just black. What do you mean just black? Like that's downplaying what it is to be an African American. Whereas think about the culture, there's a Haitian accent, there's a Jamaican accent. But you come here, you got a Southern California accent, a Northern California accent, Texas, Georgia, Florida, Florida. Baltimore, Philly, New York. They all got things.
Starting point is 01:31:53 So the culture is very rich, but a lot of African-Americans have not, they look at their culture like as bland. You know what I'm saying? So there is a certain need to reinforce that. Like, even with us, you know, we teach the 12 tribes. We believe that the African-Americans, the tribe of Judah. That's the same tribe of Jesus.
Starting point is 01:32:09 That's the leaders of this whole shit, the same tribes as Jesus Christ. So understanding that, like, nah, like everybody is looking to the African-America at the end of the day. We all making trap music. We're all gang banging in all of our countries throughout the Caribbean, Central, South America.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Well, who we get that from? We all wearing fit of hats. Where do we get that from? Yeah. We're all doing rabbiades. Where do we get that from? FBI. So there needs to be respect.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Put on FBI. So I understand him more. But, you know, in certain people in the FBI movement, there's what they call xenophobia. Of course. Oh, you're Jamaican. Oh, you're from Liberia. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:32:46 And that there's merit to it in certain instances, but I think it gets overdone sometimes so it turned me off to him, but like, when I heard your interview with him and heard him out, I'm like, man, hey, I mess with my man Kingflex for sure. Right, right, like, like, here, right? Because, like, and obviously, and like, I'm West African, right?
Starting point is 01:33:04 Right, like, so, like, people, like, hear, like, jokes of, you know, like, you know. Joloff. Yeah, right? They get, like, so, like, so, like, so freaking angry, right? But, bro, like, with me and him, I were, like, I were, like, last interview, right?
Starting point is 01:33:22 It's a not-FBA handle. Right. Yeah, no, I watched that I was watching this morning. Right? Right, but, like, but, like, yo, like, that shit is jokes, right? Feel me? And, like, you know, like, it's mutual, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:33 like, jokes, right? But I just feel like, man, like, he does, like, for example, man, like, he did, like, a great documentary on, on, like, on, like, Asian Revolution. Yeah, right? And, yo, bro, like,
Starting point is 01:33:45 and he does these great works, right? Right, right? But, um, my question. Russian right is this though, right? So, Umar Johnson, man, do you feel like Omar Johnson ended SETI's career? Man, no, I feel like, I feel like he was originalized into SETI's career. SETI. He named SETI, brother, I know, Detroit, Lyskin, brother.
Starting point is 01:34:11 He was like the conscious dude, but he talked. I mean, his mouth, it was reckless. He talked. The way he talked, damn, that, that's something. Oh, yeah. Like, that's it how he gave it. Yo, very entertaining. I like SETI, right?
Starting point is 01:34:24 Yeah. But, you know, he had a debate with the Israelite. I mean, it was bad. It was really bad. It really rocked that whole, like, the comedic side. And then, you know, he was still around, but then what really seen him kind of disappear was, there was a debate that was supposed to happen.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Setti and Young Farrow versus the Amoraz Squad on if the Medunetto, which the hieroglyph, if they've been deciphered. Yeah. Right. So they're on the, Pharaoh and Sedi were on the position that they never, been deciphered. The Amirazqa is on the position that they was deciphered, but you calling yourself Pharaoh and you calling yourself SETI, so you must say they be deciphered because you got the name from the damn, see what I'm saying? Yeah. So, but the Amir Roscoe reached out to me on some
Starting point is 01:35:03 collaborative, because I've done studies with them as far as on the archaeology, the language, the evolution of the language, the relation to the Hebrew language, to the Medunetra, things like that. So I was getting ready to work with them on that. Quitas is kept like, even that joined me polite. Well, I ghost wrote a whole round of one of Polite's debates. Oh, really? When polite debated rabbiard Harry Rosenberg, round two go watch. Them is my, them is, hey, them is Raquel Kim's rhymes he spent. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got all, hold on receipts on that.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I got any receipt on that, too. Hold up. That's big news to right now, though. You feel me? Wait, wait, wait, wait, because another, against another, like, because if dudes get in there, like, debate's ghost rating for him, like, that takes away the integrity. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:35:40 For sure. Of a bunch of what's going on it, right? Wait, so, like, if you have receipts for that, like, like. Oh, yeah, I got the receipts. Then I believe that's, and then they gotta like, like, like, like, shift away. I gotta get to,
Starting point is 01:35:51 I gotta get the title for that, right? Yeah, right. You feel me? Right, because, yo, not, because polite body, like, body that man, right? No, it was bad. It was bad. He bodyed him.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Like, but I mean, it was gross. I mean, getting, if your man's got the knowledge, right? Yeah. And he, he, he give you the frame, and you go work the frame the right way. Nah, man. No, I'm just telling you, because
Starting point is 01:36:17 It's like, okay, both of them ain't going to the debate, but if this is my boy, I'm giving you this info so you don't, you don't tell him. The rap, he was too scared to debate to Israel. Yeah, so you got to give him. And now if he can swing this, like, it's, like, a battle rap though, right? Feel me? Like, you can't have niggas right in your bars, dog, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:36:34 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, his niggas definitely doing it. You know, but, you know, at that time, and, you know, I always, even, even despite any of the stuff, I always been cool with polite until the allegations came out against him that he said. As in now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:36:49 So, like, so. I sort of, right? So, like, I sort of heard of it. Yeah. And then I just forgot, like, it was still a thing. Because it's been dragging. Right. You know how trial go.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Yeah, right? And then you reminded me that not, like, this is still, like, a thing that's going on, right? February 8th. He's, the trial's supposed to start February 8th. Third 8th, wait, like, trial started in Miami-Dade County, you know? Yo, I wonder, like, if, like, their trials are public, right? I don't know. I damn near wanted to go, but I'm about to be traveling so much.
Starting point is 01:37:21 Like when we're doing the Super Bowl and, boom, like we're going to so many places, I'm not going to be able to go. But because the thing is this, regardless of anywhere I feel about him or et cetera, if he's not guilty, I'm not, I don't want to see any. Black men's up. Especially these charges. So he's accused of sexually molesting his girlfriend at the time's 14-year-old daughter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:42 That's the accusation. Now, I'll be honest with you. do I think that he's guilty? Yes, and here's why. Because a warrant went out for the DNA. They took it from him after the results came back. A warrant went out for his arrest. There you go to the case right there.
Starting point is 01:37:59 So unless they get up in there and say it's not a match, which I don't know why they would issue an arrest warrant if the DNA isn't a match. So that's the only thing for me. And, you know, he said a lot of heinous things against the Bible, and he acted as if the Bible co-signed that type of behavior and he utilized that as an argument to demonize the Bible, and he even shot the Bible up over it. But it'd be a cold situation if you, in fact, did the thing in which
Starting point is 01:38:23 you were trying to demonize the Bible for. That would be a cold situation. Now, again, if he's not guilty, I want him free, admonished on anything I've ever said negative. I have no problem apologizing for. Because at this point, I don't know whether that's also something that the Bible teaches. Until we got the facts, we can't come to a definitive conclusion.
Starting point is 01:38:44 It depends on... It depends on what they swap for DNA because if it's the rape kit and they swap in that or they swap in the DNA for a hair that's been around the room and the house that he lives in. Yeah. So we got to see how they're all playing out of trial. Well, no, there was no, no, so like,
Starting point is 01:39:02 and there was, I think I read the actual, like, the police thing, right? Yeah. And it said that they felt like semen or like, you feel me? On the shirt. On the shirt. Yeah, yeah, you feel me? and they're trying to, like, say that that seaman is his DNA. That's what the allegation is.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah, right? Now, listen, if he did it, it'll be unfortunate because, and, like, he's truly one of, like, the brightest minds, right? But, man, like, it's just been, been, like, a bad, like, last, like, five, six years, right? Because a kid, kid actually got, like, arrested, right? I think the kid was like 17 years old, right? And he said that, and he got, like, his advice to kind of, like, get these properties by just breaking in and, like, living there and pay that on it. Yeah, squad.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Right? And paying the bills. Right? Right. Yeah, right. But, like, polite. And it had, like, a particular, like, word for it, right? And he went out to try to, like, follow that.
Starting point is 01:40:06 And he got arrested now, like, and his life is over with, right? Yeah. So now, I can't mean, like, speak towards, like, did this kid follow, like, his advice to the exact... Yeah, exactly. Right? But, like, ever since that happened, like, that kind of hurt, you know, like, a bunch of... You feel me? Right?
Starting point is 01:40:26 Like, right? So, man, bro. And then, like, there's a lot of women, like, you know, he pushes the black woman as God. Yeah. But there's a whole lot of black women with receipts that he didn't scan them out of thousands of dollars. So, I mean, when I heard him saying that, I already knew it was gay. I already knew it. that was, boom, have her wide open to go ahead and hand that over.
Starting point is 01:40:42 That's all that was. You see what I'm saying? But like, so stuff like, like he called one time and this is like, because he was good at, and this is the thing a lot of guys built themselves. Us as Israelites, we're front line. We demonstrate very publicly. So anybody can walk up on us and ask us anything at any given time. And we deal with honesty and integrity so we get the answers.
Starting point is 01:41:02 That's also what he took advantage of when he was asking me, them questions to get that viral clip. He knows I'm going to be honest. He knows I'm not fin the BS. So he kind of championed himself on creating trick questions and coming in blindsided people like with that. You see what I'm saying? So they tried to call me on the phone one day, saw that in him. And they're like, they try to ask me about something in the Bible.
Starting point is 01:41:23 And I said, I'll answer that as soon as you tell me why you rob God. Because the black woman is your God, right? Why you keep robbing her. As soon as you can explain to me why you keep robbing God, then I'll answer your questions. But we're done answering your questions now, bro. Because you've made a career off of just being able to ask questions. but you didn't have no answers because nobody, you ain't even standing on nothing
Starting point is 01:41:41 for us to even come ask you no questions about. But now we'd have figured out, wait, oh, the black woman's got, okay, cool, so you, but sis, it's one sister, her name, man, something got it. She's out to bay. She did it great, just video just in-depth showing all the receipts like, bro, he burnt me,
Starting point is 01:41:57 you know what I'm saying, for a few racks. So, like, why, if she's got, why are you doing that, bro? You know what I'm saying? So things like that, it's crazy and then too like even how he sensationalized that clip with my mom like like like bro like like number one everybody know i love my mama let's just let's make sure that's on the record yeah but then also on top of that like but i thought the black woman was got why aren't you asking me how i
Starting point is 01:42:20 treat my black wives why don't you ask me how i treat my black daughter my black stepdaughter several other single black mothers out here that we help every day why isn't that the question because i thought that's your concern the black woman right why you asked me about the white woman You know what I'm saying? Why don't you ask me about how we treat and how we take care of black women every day? You know what I mean? Yeah, yo.
Starting point is 01:42:39 That's kind of cold. No, let's actually touch on that, right? So you believe in polygamy and you have, well, like, three wives or two? I got two. I got two. Right. Here. So now those two wives are loyal only to you and they can't go out and have sexual other people.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Exactly. Now, okay, so like speak on this, right? Because feminists will say, oh, toxic, mask. Why can you have your fun and have the wives and all the pussy, but then they can't have other penises? So, like, what's your response to why do polygamy work for black folks? Well, it's because it's the natural way we've always been. Okay. Before the Western European standard of, because even people don't understand romance.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Let's just deal with that. Yeah, romance. That means Rome. It comes from Rome, romantic, pertaining to Rome. So the whole concept that we under is some Western European concept. You go to Africa, you go to America before any of this. Like, that's how we was getting down. Men was having multiple wives.
Starting point is 01:43:39 There's more women, especially amongst us, there's more, like, black women versus black men in this country. There's like two million more. Then it's a gang of us locked up. You see what I'm saying? So all that, like, who going to, these, they need leadership. They need guidance. You see what I'm saying? And guess what?
Starting point is 01:43:54 If you're a feminist and you think you don't, cool, go live your life. It is what it is. But guess what? These women, they had a choice because I lay things on the table. I meet. I date. I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. You hear me?
Starting point is 01:44:06 I'm meeting women. I'm not. All the time. I'm not one of these holier than now dudes. You're going to see me outside. You're going to see me at nightclubs. You're going to see me at hot spots. You're going to see me with these fringes on.
Starting point is 01:44:15 I'm going to keep the laws like I'm not going to do nothing contrary to this Bible. But I'm going to be around you because I'm not, I don't think I'm bigger or better than any of my people, period. I'm going to meet you where you at. Greet you with respect. That's me, period. So I'm out here. I'm meeting young ladies. I'm going on, all the stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:30 And it's on the table. Like you're going to know, like this is what I do. I got two wives. This is how I get down. I got this many kids. I do this is what I do. So it's on the table. So if you want to deal with me, maybe it's a choice.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Is that, did you have to go to a state that was legal in order to get that done? That's illegal. So we're not legally married. But the state of New York is actually making a stride to legalize polygamy. Because they're like, look, if same-sex marriage got that treatment, if they're saying if it's a love-is-love policy, well then how are we restricting this now. We can't get, if we go to get unrestrict,
Starting point is 01:45:04 let's say these are consenting adults, let them do their thing and have the legal protections, you know what I'm saying? Man, bro, listen, bro, like, yo, this's been a great interview, man, like, I had you here for, what, two hours now, you feel me, man? Like, god damn, bro.
Starting point is 01:45:17 No, even more than two hours, because you actually came a tabbit earlier at like two old, like something, right? Yeah, like two and five, yeah. Damn, I had your hair for three hours, man, shit, you feel like me? But, bro, listen, bro, I definitely feel like you came here and you actually like clarified, you feel
Starting point is 01:45:32 me, a bunch of things, right, right? So where now like that clip that has been sensationalized now has the full context, man. But before we conclude, right, man, is there anything you want to plug, you feel like your IG, YouTube channel, you know, you know? Yeah, a G-R-L-A, Guerr-H-Hibro, at Guerr-Hibro on all social platforms, Sakari, that's S-I-C-R-I-I-I-I,
Starting point is 01:45:58 my organization. We're on YouTube all over the place. We're in most major cities throughout the country. I'm going to plug my brand to Urban Gorilla. I got it on here, boom. I need that merch, man. Yeah, I got you. For sure. For sure, for sure. What's your size off? Double X-L. Okay, boom. I got you. I got you on the two-ex.
Starting point is 01:46:16 For show. You know, I just want to say all praise to the most high. Yahua and the name is only begot and saying, your high. Man, black, Hispanics, and Native Indians, man. Wake up. Repet. Man, you are the Israelites. Keep the commandments of God and faith in his son, bro. And we'll be to manifest our kingdom on this earth, I promise you. What's next, though?
Starting point is 01:46:32 Like, is there any type of, you know, like, are you dropping a book? Just more video content, more. Everything is next. Okay. So the book thing, I've been meaning to write a book, but it's like, you've got to sit down to do it. And I'm, I'm going to go so much, bro. Like, it's emotion.
Starting point is 01:46:48 It ain't time. But, like, I did love the most high because he didn't brought certain people to me that's like, well, I can do it. I've already did presentations, videos, all the stuff. Like, he can go take that. put that in the format, boom. But, you know, we just, right now, especially for 2023, like, we just an overdrive right now.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Like, that's the plan. That's why, like, I'm here this weekend. We're going to boom. We go to Vegas tomorrow. Do our thing in Vegas. Boom, next week. We're in Houston, a week after that. We go to Phoenix for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:47:13 The week after that, I'm going to New York. Like, we're just doing everything. You're going to, you on the Phoenix? If you went to town, like, pull up to our, like, hip-hop trans brunch. Yeah, for sure. I'm in there. I'm in here. I'm in here.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Yeah, man. Yo, folks. Yo, Brick baby. like official no jumper and interview as a co-host, man. Well, you had, you had my boy here, man. You know, we into damn near the same thing. I think we would connect more. I just didn't want to get in the way.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Yeah, no, man. It actually was easy because my boy is smart. It ain't like we talked to Rick Wall. I lasted so long. So, you know what I'm saying? And I learned a lot. When I start being quiet, that means that I'm soaking up a whole lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:47:53 So I don't want to ask a question in the middle of me learning something. So he had me. in like student mode for a second. I respect that. So good looking, man. You know what I'm saying? We're going to do a whole lot more. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:48:06 And then we go have you double back on the street side to still. Yes, sir. Okay, beautiful, beautiful. Yeah. Facts, man. You feel me, man? But, but folks, listen, man,
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