No Jumper - HalfPintFilmz on Getting Shot Shooting a Music Video, Charleston White, Mo3 vs Yella Beezy & More

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

HalfPint talks about his come up in the music industry, working with Youngboy, Carl Crawford, Erica Banks, Tony Willrich, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. Today, I'm in here with somebody. It's a very, very big part of the Texas music scene and beyond. My man, half-playing films in the building. Finally, man. Finally, we're tapping in. Finally, we're tapping in.

You've been grinding for a long time. So, realistically, you probably could have got this interview, like, three, four years ago at the height of the... Hey, I remember, like, three years ago, I had made a post. I had made a post and was like, everybody tag Adam 22, tell him I need a no jump interview. Oh, shit. This was like the day. after you post it don't tag me

and shilling people to tag me I hate that I was like that's funny guy you say really get annoyed by that and now I'm just it don't really bother me but I used to like wake up in the morning and look at my comments and I'd have 80 comments 100 comments a thousand comments whatever saying like interview so and I would just

get annoyed and as I've got deeper in the game I just kind of whatever yeah let them live but man you're a big part of what's been going on in Texas for however many years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that this kind of got initiated

because you got name dropped on the Tony Wilrich episode, right? Absolutely. Shout out Tony, man. Shout out my man, Tony, the realist in the game. But we'll get to all that. So give me a little bit of information about what kind of kid you were and what your early days as a kid were like.

Grew up in Fort Worth, Texas. I don't have the same struggle story with everybody else. I was a little, I was a little, A little dancing kid. I came up playing basketball, and when I got to high school, I started jerking, the jerk movement. Even in Texas, it carried over to that.

Wow, I didn't even know that. Definitely. I was a heavily L.A. influenced kid because I used to just watch, like, them P. Rangers and jerking crews and shit. So that's how I picked up the camera. I started doing jerking videos. And that was just common in your high school? Was there other people going to it?

Hell no. I mean, yeah, me and my friends. Really? Just me and my friends, like five of us. Okay. And were you interested in Texas hip hop at the time? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was popping at that time?

At that time, that's like 2009, 2010. We had a Young Nation. Young Nation was huge. Who else was big around that time? Fat Pimp. In Houston. Riff Raff, yeah. Yeah, for the show, RIFRAT.

It might have been like 2011 or something, but he kind of took him. On that riffraff, tough. Me too. I was on that riff rap real tough. Nobody's allowed to turn him like a joke. He's the fucking man. Oh, yeah, I love riffraff. Yeah.

Show. Burberry lemonade squad. Okay, weird riffraff tale is that one time I met him and there was a song lyric that we used to always quote, which was grind like a grizzly in my house, Walt Disney. Yeah. And when I first met riffraff, I said to him, I go, this is like my lyric. It's my favorite lyric ever. but what does grind like a grizzly mean? And he said, well, you remember the jungle book?

And I'm like, not really because I was a little kid last time I seen it. And he's like, well, the bear is grinding his back against the trees to like itch his back. And last night I'm sitting there with my kid watching the jungle book and I saw that. It brought back these memories of him saying that to me. Yeah, you'll think Rift Ralph saying some shit and he don't know what he's talking about. And it'll make complete sense. Or it might actually not make any sense. I mean, the Panda Express Colored Benz and shit.

That makes sense. What color is that? Red and yellow. The Panor Express logo. It's not like orange chicken. I don't know. But, okay, so you were kind of on that wave, but were you thinking about shooting videos? Or what was your, like, what were you aspiring to do with yourself at that time?

Like a couple months after I picked up the camera, I knew I wanted to do music videos. My big brother was a rapper. So he was, like, one of my first early test subjects. Just like, the first thing I did was, like, just record him. like rapping a song and just trying to line up the music with the video like that. That was interesting. Little challenges like that when you first get in the game. On Windows Movie Maker.

Right. Yeah. God, that must be a nightmare having to go through the song and just find the little chunks where they're actually mouthing the words properly. And there's one thing I never did. I edited a lot of different types of videos. They're never a music video. No, it's a lot easier these days because you just got stuff that just connected,

the AI and stuff like that really connected right to the it'll match the word with the mouth immediately and is that something that like most people who shoot videos are using these days I'm pretty sure they do wow you're stupid if you're not that's super interesting I never thought about that

okay I gotta get on my but okay so you were shooting little videos for your brother and stuff but when did it become obvious to you there's something you really wanted to do and who are you influenced by or looking at at the time Um, as far as camera work, I really, when I grew, I didn't have no influences like that. The only person I just liked like that coming from Texas was Mr. Boomtown.

Okay. Who was out there, but I didn't really just have no big influence on somebody that just made me do it like that. I just picked it up in. Because I feel like every city in America has like at least a couple of different videographers who kind of came up out of nothing on social media serving the people in their. city like yeah no i was the first one out of texas in particular um like that just on some on some viral yeah we had videographers out there like jeffadere and um kang bear but building your own platform is kind of like its own separate challenge exactly i was the first one to have to like my own youtube channel and like a hub for people to come to the music videos like that right definitely so

did you start the channel like real early on what year did you start it I started shooting music video of 2010. And, yeah, so 2012, I started my channel. Uh-huh. Yeah. And did you start getting work with other artists right away, or how long did that take? Yeah, I mean, I always was pretty connected into the rap. So, or people I knew was coming up trying to rap.

So, I ain't going to say I was getting paid. at first. I came up doing a lot of free or cheap videos. I'm talking like $50, stuff like that when I first started. Right, because I seen a quote from you that said, like, it took you five years to start making money or to break even on the game. Why were you so dedicated to it that you were willing to put in those years of work for free? I ain't know I'd do nothing else. That's all I knew was the camera. And I had, that's what I spent my high school years learning and learning how to edit and stuff like that. That's all I. I knew.

How long did it take before you started landing yourself in some sketchy situations? Because when I think about Texas, there's a lot of cowboys out there who are ready for whatever. I feel like, was that like your clientele, the gangster ass rappers early on? Oh, yeah. But that was way before gangster rap was even like a scene in Texas. So once the gangster rappers started emerging, I was all ready to a cameraman. So that's how, you know what I'm saying? We all built our buzz together.

Right. Okay. So when you were younger, the scene didn't have as much of a street influence? No, it was a dancing city. We had a lot of dance music. Dance music was the only thing that was popping out of the DFW. Right. Do you think this was like the Chicago influence in terms of people taking their street and bringing it to the music?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Chicago and Boosie. Just Boosie in general. Boosey was a huge influence. Pretty much anybody you asked from Texas going to say Boosie was an influence for them, for sure. Okay. And he's definitely somebody. A street nigger.

At that time, he wasn't scared to put his beef in the music. Exactly. He was one of the first person I seen putting real guns in the video and shit like that, too, even before Chief Keith. Right. Yeah, no, that's real. But so, okay, who was the first artist that really took off on your channel? Was it Goe A? Oh, yeah.

Really? And what year was this? That's 2015, the very end of 2015. I guess, yeah, I started a go-e-eer around like maybe 2016, 2017. I heard some songs and was feeling it. So what was that relationship like? How did you happen with him? I knew Yale before, like I said, from just, you know what I'm saying?

He's one of the street niggas that I just came up with. And once he caught his buzz, I called mine. But I knew him from high school. But he's like three, four years younger than me. So he was like the bad kid that was always coming up because we had the ninth grade campus and we had the big high school. He was the kid from the ninth grade campus coming up to the big high school. He ain't supposed to be up here type shit.

So that's how I met Yale. Right. And so like his shit starts taking off and did that really impact your channel? Because all of a sudden you got videos in your channel to get millions of views. People are looking at you like, oh, he can actually make me a thing. Absolutely. So luckily when they started like Yale, he was never like computer savvy or nothing like that. He ain't know nothing about uploading no video.

So have a point upload that shit on your channel. Bet I upload it on my channel. That shit started taking off. Like my channel probably had I probably had 12. hundred subscribers at that time. Yeah. But music videos are like a great way to get a lot of views on your channel or to get a lot of subscribers.

I always noticed that like World Star Lyrical Lemonade, like channels that are mostly built on viral music videos just end up having like, you know, 20 million subscribers. Whereas the, the artist's fan base, that's where they come to look for them. So they're all subscribing. And they'll watch the same video a hundred times. And the next person's video. That's why they come to me because you might have to go. Yeah, your video go off, yours might come on.

So, you know, they're trying to catch that algorithm. Yeah, it's also like a no jumper or an academics or a Vlad primarily only appeals to people who speak English. And it's like if you're Cole Bennett and you have a channel full of these viral videos from Juice World and Polo G and all these people, that shit does not, that crosses the language barrier. Exactly. Yeah. Definitely. Okay, so the go-e-e-o shit starts cracking off. Were you, like, a part of his team or his movement?

Or, like, how much do you attach yourself to all that? Oh, man, yeah, we was like this hand-in-hand. Yeah, when he first started his movement, hood fame, we was, I was the, it was me and his cousin, nephew world. It was the other cameraman. But, yeah, we was in the twine. I was really the only cameraman they was using and stuff like that. Right, definitely. So, I mean, like, what went wrong with Go Yale?

It felt like he kind of, like, made enemies in the local scene, and, like, maybe at some point it kind of lost momentum. Like, what would you blame that for? Obviously, he's been locked up for a few years now, which is his current issue. Yeah, he'd be home soon. But, yeah, just not knowing when to stop beefing, but I guess you can't just stop beefing out of nowhere.

But the beef is what got him to buzz. so it just kept going and then, you know, beef don't, people don't want to book you for shows. It messes up the money. So, yeah, he was, I don't know, just a lot of beef, not making the right moves, stuff like that.

I'm a fan of sauce walka and peso peso's hit song Ho Geo. And I feel kind of bad whenever I'm, like, rapping along to it because it's a go-yeo diss and I have no reason to dis him. Yale might wrap that hole with you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He loved, I think there's more go-yeo disc songs in Texas than anything.

Who else got some good ones? Spud boom. Who else got some good yayo disses? There's some good, it's some good yayo disses out there. He like them too. You think he was just feeling himself at a young age and that just kind of like turned a lot of people against him? I can't, I mean, yeah, he's. just a cocky young nigga period so he is even when he had nothing he was feeling itself so

yeah if you once you meet him and be around him you can see how he can get under people's skin but if you know him well like i do you just brush that shit off type of shit yeah i've been around but i guess not enough to see the annoying side of him yeah yeah okay and so did that kind of start to change things where all of a sudden the beef became a bigger factor and what was making music popular in texas did that kind of change the whole climate Um, yeah, it did. That was, that was like the beginning of it, but we also had artists that was popping out that didn't have nothing to do with no beef. That was, you know what I'm saying?

That was catching their bugs, like Yellow Beezie. Right. Mo three at the time. Yeah. They, they weren't no beef. For a time. At that time. Yeah.

There was no beef intertwined and they mixed. Right. It was just good music. So, okay, who came after Goeo? Yeah, was a Yellowbezi that you kind of tapped at me? Oh, yeah. I mean, once, once that popped, you already had my. Mo3 over her, Yellow Beezie over here.

You got Hood fame Loreni, that's Go Yeo's, Right Hand, Man, Lou Roney, Mother F. Man, just the whole city started popping off after that. It was just a chain reaction. And so who did you shoot music videos for it first? Bezzi, right? Or was it Mo3? Out of them two?

Yeah. Out of Beasy and Mo3? Yeah. Bezzi for show. I only shot one video from O3. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've only shot one video for Mo3, but Beezie, I've been working with him since 2013.

Okay. And yeah, I mean, how early on did you shoot the That's On Me video? Because that's your biggest video. It was like 100 million something. Yep. That was 2000, damn, when was that? 2017, 18, maybe. Yeah, that was a little later in the game.

2018, maybe. I remember 2016 or 2017 I got booked to host a festival in Florida And Yellow Bezzi came out And I did not know who the fuck he was And he was just going nuts Like the crowd was going crazy for him And I didn't realize how big his shit had gotten at that point

Man, something we've never seen before Really? Yeah Out of Dallas it was something we never seen before Right And so okay Did you only shoot one video from 03 Because of the tension that ended up cracking off between them?

Nah, he just always had his own route. He had his own cameraman. Shout out prophecy. Code. He had his own cameraman. He used his own channel. It was just, I don't know. That's just the route he took. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of weird for you. Like, if you shoot a music video for somebody early on in their career, are you kind of, like, expecting them to keep fucking with you as their career goes on? Yeah, that's a big mistake. What, you're fucking with other people?

Nah, just cutting you out of it? Yeah, just thinking that they're just going to keep you in the pictures type shit like that. like, no, that's, nah, that ain't how it work. Right. Because you want it to be like that. Even with me, it was an interviewer. You kind of think, like, oh, this guy's first interview. Once the labels get involved, psh, yeah. Right, because you benefit from, like, you've been around for such a long time.

And in the early days, your career, it was pretty normal for a rapper, even if they were popping to put their video on your channel. Right. And then as they get bigger, that becomes more and more difficult to get them to do. So have you had to start shooting a lot more videos for other people's channels? and shit? I really I kind of

I kind of stay away from like the the bigger artist type shit unless they got something for me because I know it's not going benefit me none

no more because the first competitor I had was World Star once motherfuckers started getting the buzz then World Star started reaching out like hey we want to drop your video

like damn nigga this is my video this is my content I want it on my shit that's where me and a lot of artists start having our first riffs. I started, I start dissing World Star and all type of shit.

I was going at them. This is my artist. Right. Because back in the day, they were pretty fucking aggressive with that shit. Oh, yeah. Soon as a motherfucker start popping.

Hey. Right. I remember seeing like the Wabian Amir rubbing off the paint video. And then like two days later it's on World Star and it fucking blew up from there, which is,

it's kind of weird because I'm sure it helped blow up. but at the same time, like, if the song is blowing up on its own, you don't really need World Star. It's going to go. It's going to go. And especially now, it really doesn't seem like you need World Star. I'm sure they still sometimes get videos to go viral, but I will forever see videos now on World Star. They got 3,000 views after a couple days.

And I'm like, this shit. Right. I ain't really moving nothing. Yeah. But, okay. So from your perspective, it needs to be like a significant budget in order for you to shoot somebody's shit for their, for their channel, but meanwhile you're down to fuck with like a smaller artist or a smaller budget if it's going on your channel?

Yeah. I'll be working with smaller artist budgets and stuff like that for show all the time. All the time. How'd you become half pint films? Where'd the half pint come from? Half pint been my name since I was born. Really? I was a small kid.

Oh, like real small. So I guess my daddy gave me that name. I really can't tell you where it came from other than I was just. small. So I don't know. I just grew up half pint. That's all I ever knew. Did people get a lot of good jokes as a result of the name? Not good ones. Everybody say like now, I've grown up, people always, oh, you're a full pint now. Like, I've heard that a million times already. That's what I was thinking. If I was going to kiss you, I'd be like, you were half pint. I'm the whole thing. Exactly. Yeah, no. They tried that already. Okay. But you said that you never made money

off your channel, right? So is that just because all the songs get claimed by the artist or the label right away? I wish that was the problem. No, back in 2012, when I started my channel, this is around the time that Google Ads since first started. They put that shit on my channel. I figured out that from clicking the ads and stuff like that is how you get paid. So my dumb ass on there clicking the ads consistently myself.

So they flagged me for invalid click activity. And it's been like that ever since. For 10 years? 10 years. So if you know somebody at YouTube, tell them hi-lad me. I'm sorry. Please remonitize my channel. Holy shit.

Damn, that's a brutal situation. Never made a dollar off YouTube. Wow. With a 1.4 million subscribers. That didn't make you want to start a different channel and maybe have a fresh show? And it was the same shit. It was too, no, it was too deep in the game. Nobody wanted to be on my new channel because I already got this channel popping.

They like, shit, upload. my video on that channel. Right. Fuck y'all. Damn, that's some grimy shit. I know what I thought that was the reason. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I fucked up. Damn. So how do you monetize? Like, when you say that you started to make money or break even, like, how did you start to make money off the channel if it wasn't for them? Uploads.

Okay, just charging people. So videos that I didn't shoot, you can upload it on my channel for a fee. Okay. Yeah. And that gets a little tricky, though, right? Because it's like you want to make money, but then at the same time,

you want to keep the quality level high on your channel. which is always the thing as a videographer. It's like where do you want to draw the line? Exactly. That's what I was like, if I could go back, well, it's kind of like, because like I said, a lot of artists, when they get big, they leave my channel. So it ain't like these motherfuckers that staying here and helping me build. That's what I always liked about Cole Bennett too. He never, it's like he must have it in his contract or something to where if I shoot this video, it has to be on my channel.

Even since day one, I've never seen his videos nowhere else. There was one video back in the day. A famous Degs video? I thought it was a 6-9 video that ended up going on World Star and that he shot it. And I remember being, if I'm not forgetting, but I remember just being really, really surprised. Yeah, because Cole to me is kind of the extreme example of somebody who controlled the quality on his channel so much. Definitely. Whereas like a large percentage of other video guys that I've talked to are observed over the years, it's more like they just kind of have to hustle and they have to make money in the short term.

so they end up kind of at some point uploading videos that they're maybe not as excited about. Definitely. I hate that, but yeah, that's exactly how it went. Yeah, that's the struggle. I had to swear off uploading music videos to the No Jumper channel at a certain point. Because for a minute that that was like the main way that I had to make money because when YouTube hit us without an adpocalypse, we didn't really know what the fuck we were going to do it. What's the apocalypse?

2017, like our YouTube revenue got cut by like 90%. And a lot of other YouTube channels had that at the same time. kind of really changed everything. Oh, yeah, you got to go into survive mode after that. Yeah, that got a little bit complicated. So who else do you shoot with early on in your career? Because I saw that you shot with Youngboy at an early stage. Yeah, I shot with Young Boy.

That wasn't even really just early in my career. That was a little later kind of. What was the scenario that caused that to happen? Shit, I woke up one day, and his manager was posting on Instagram. He was saying, we need a videographer in Dallas. and they flooded the comments with my name. Really? So he DM me, he was like, meet us at the mall at 10 o'clock.

This is 10 a.m. Meet us at the mall. What year are we talking? This is 2019. Okay. So young boys are already pretty big at this point. Oh, yeah, huge, huge. So, yeah, this is 2019.

It might be 18. It might have been 18, too. I'm not sure. One of those years, but, yeah, I met them at the mall. I'm thinking we were going to go shoot the video at me. We didn't end up shooting the video to, like, 8 or 9 o'clock that night. but no it was cool that was a cool experience though right so yeah are you do you still like doing the running guns style videos where you're just sort of hanging out with the rapper for the day and it's

almost like a vlog footage or do you prefer to do stuff where you're you know like really having sets and like shit really organized um depends on the situation I like I still like running guns running guns running guns really just rule the game right now it's there's not too many big budget videos that just pop off like that no more um so much like don't really go for the creativity. People would rather see you standing around on the fucking street than standing in a, you know,

it's always weird for me when I click on like a drill video and then they're in like a big, you know, studio with purple lights and shit. I'm kind of like, this doesn't feel right. Like the people want to see you actually in the streets, which, not saying

that you should be doing that because realistically you're going to get yourself killed, but like the fans want to see that shit, right? No, definitely. Yeah, I shot a lot of videos in traps and kitchens. Right. Traps and kitchens.

Man, for like three, four years, it was traps and kitchens. You go to my YouTube, you don't see nothing but kitchens. Yeah, why is that? The kitchen is just one of the best lit rooms? That's a trap niggas favorite. That's a trap nigger's favorite room in the house. Right. Because they can point at the stove.

You know? Where I do my thing. They love that kitchen. Pull the pyrecks out. You know, like, a lot of like, easy accessories right there, right? They're going to get that pyrex every time. And put some bacon soda in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

a little fake crack cooking. Like, yeah, I'm just getting started. I'm not going to do the actual crack cooking, but like I got the baking stuff. But you know what I'm going to have in here. Exactly. All right. Exactly.

All right. So who else early on? Young boy Fredo Bain. Soldier boy, Trippy Red. Who else? I don't know. I shot a lot of people, bro. Who else have I shot?

Am I missing somebody? In terms of the early days, I mean, that does sound pretty complete. The early, like, how early are we talking, though? You're talking about, like, big artists that I've shot? Just anybody that has, like, an interesting come-up story that you shot when they were smaller? I was around Asian dogs. I mean, anybody from Dallas, anybody from Dallas, Fort Worth, Texas, really,

I was around them in the beginning stages of their career. Right. Yeah, anybody from Texas, for show. Definitely, yeah. I mean, Asians all kind of from the same class as Goeo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all the same year and shit, right? Yeah, same era.

Definitely. Okay. And so at what point did you start to have to, like, make choices about who you fucked with based on who didn't fuck with other people? Because I feel like that's going to happen sooner or later, right? You don't play that game? Never, no. Not, especially not in the city.

Everybody know what I'm on. Everybody know I ain't choosing no sides or no bullshit like that. So I ain't never had to go through no shit like that in the city now. Now, outside of that, I don't know. But like I said, I don't shot a video for a young boy and Fred O'Bain. I don't know how they feel about it, but, you know, I don't know. It's business. Right.

Definitely. Yeah, I mean, there's kind of like a cool style of video that we've seen emerge over the last few years, which I kind of think of as like really high quality vlog type shit. Like certain little baby videos and stuff that I've seen where it's like he's on the jet skis, he's walking through the mall and like the shots look really fucking good. I call those lifestyle videos. Okay. That's like just a day in a life, but in a music video.

And the fans, I think, want to see that, whereas they don't want to see you in a fucking studio on a soundstage and whatever. That's definitely the best type of running gun videos. But that shit only works if you got good activities going on. We don't want to see you go to the corner store and come back home and play 2K. If you're a little baby and you just naturally have 10 hot chicks around and you are on jet skis and you're going to the mall and spending hell like, money and all this shit.

I'm sure they can shoot a music video every weekend. Probably every day if they wanted to. But, yeah, they live a different type of lifestyle that needs to be filmed. Right. It's good for content. Definitely. So what other things were you having to do to make money over the years, or was this, like, taking care of you since early on?

Oh, yeah. No, I never had to do nothing else for money. I've always been off the camera. Right. How much have you traveled, like, in terms of going to other states and stuff? I didn't been all over the U.S. I've never been out the country yet. I haven't been all over the U.S. shooting videos for show.

That's a weird part about hip-hop is that you don't really have much of a reason to leave the country until you get really big. These days you will, the U.K. rap scene popping like a motherfucker. So I don't know, but yeah, no, I never had to lead a country for a video. Definitely.

Yeah, do you aspire to, like, do bigger, video projects like documentaries and shit like that or how's that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so i actually shoot movies too right i seen that yeah yeah so i shoot movies too um i got a a couple of documentaries that i'm about to start working on so yeah i'm moving it to more like the bigger what kind of subject matter would you want to make documentaries about um i really just i really want to make a documentary about the df w music scene and like like the real real where it started and to where it is now. That's something that I want to do.

Yeah, what do you think makes Dallas unique in terms of the country and in terms of Texas in general? We different from every other city. Like if you go, if I seen a Dallas nigger in L.A., I'm a know you're a Dallas nigger. You just can kind of, I don't know.

It's like you can tell the way they, The way we talk, our haircuts. By the way, I'm not from Dallas. I'm from Fort Worth, but we decide. Oh, I see, I say it interchangeably, but I understand that this is not to you guys. Yeah, it's definitely a big difference, but no, I'm Dallas and Fort Worth for show. Yeah, what? The shag is just that popular out there?

Oh, what? It's still huge? Yes. Okay. Yes. Everywhere you go, you're going to see some shags. I don't know when I first seen Yellow Bezzi. I thought the motherfucker had a tumor or something.

Everybody. See, I never knew that. It was a crazy thing. When I'm growing up, Shags is regular. Really? I never looked at that haircut funny, but once it started going viral around the world, people are like, what the fuck is on the back of their head? Shit like that.

I'm like, that's normal. That's a normal haircut, not city. It's such a weird concept for a haircut, though. Did you have this big fucking roll back here? Once you think about it, it is crazy, but no, that's our city. Yeah, man. I'm still waiting for, like, a full-on Afro revival. Because I feel like the Afro is so tight.

And like whenever I have a friend who's like hair starts growing out and then they're like, oh, I got to get a haircut. I'm like, you should just let that shit rock. Just a fool or just a fro. Yeah. I mean, like, how does nobody do that anymore? Because I don't know. I don't know.

I'm going to look like you from the 80s or some shit. Yeah. I feel like it takes a lot of work to like keep it big and round and shit. You got to blow that shit out. Probably a blow dryer and a pick. Yeah. Nah, I ain't. Nuh.

Ain't. Now that you say it's somebody going to do it. But that's what I'm saying is like if Playboy Cardi came out with a fucking an afro tomorrow. we're going to see it everywhere. A bunch of kids going to have froze. And then we're going to point at this conversation and be like, Adam was a genius. Yep.

I'm glad I was a part of this. You saw the future. Yeah. I don't know. But, okay, was Erica Banks your artist at a certain point? How did that go? So we picked up Erica around 2019, 2020. Uh-huh.

She was, I ain't going to say she was my artist, but she was in our group. She was in our, you know what I'm saying? She was one of us. And I was helping her. went along her starting days. And then Carl Crawford swooped in and stole her? Yeah, how did that work?

So I didn't have her on no paperwork, so it wasn't a hard thing to do. But it wasn't like he just stole her because she told us before. Like she was like 15-01, you know what I'm saying? They looking at me out. We was like, shit, go do that. Because we knew Meg had just left 1501.

We already know Erica Stile is similar to her. already knew if she go over there to 1501 they're going to start making them comparisons it's just good publicity type shit but was that the plan at the time was she like oh you know Carl Crawford he going to turn me into a toy soldier I'm gonna go at meg yeah it's not here well I don't know what they plan was over there that wasn't the original plan I don't know what they plan turned into when they got over there but yeah I like the idea of like a guy like Carl Crawford though like just sort of assembling these chicks to go to war with each other on his behalf that's tight yeah I don't know, man.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what made her kind of like get off the Meg train or whatever. Right. She was kind of, she was a Meg fan. Really? Interesting. Did the whole Meg and Torrey thing kind of tear Texas apart a little bit?

Fuck, no. They didn't have no effect on Texas at all. You were telling me that the people weren't, like, fascinated about it and trying to figure out what happened and shit? I felt like people would be extremely interesting. I mean, that was all over the world. It didn't change. nothing about the Texas. Well, I don't know what it did in Houston.

Right. But just hearing people from Houston talk, I mean, shit, Meg is so big now. She's worldwide. What she do don't just directly affect Texas no more. Yeah, she's huge. Damn. But Meg was also one of the people that I reached out too early. We never got to shoot.

Man, I was supposed to shoot a video with Meg. And literally, like, the next month, she dropped. fucking um uh um uh um big old freak got up out of her it was over with right because i mean i i was doing those music listening streams back in like 2017 and 2018

heavy and i remember somebody sending in her shit and i watched it but at the time like my brain was kind of like very much like precautious of you're always cautious of a chick who seems like she was just like the hot ass stripper and the some drug dealer put a bunch of money behind her It was like, oh, I'm going to turn you into a rapper. And, like, I saw her, you know, I just kind of didn't take it super serious. In retrospect, I should have, like, paid more attention and, like, really honed in and shit.

But that always kind of sticks with me of, like, you saw her before she was huge. And you didn't get it. Now, Meg been tough since the beginning. I was a Meg fan way before, way before she dropped any of that extra shit. When she was just dropping twerk videos on Instagram, she was already lit. She was lit. She's been lit for show. No, yeah, definitely.

Okay, so in terms of like, like how much did the Yelabizian Mothere beef kind of changed the city once that started cracking off? Because that's got it. That's, that changed the entire story of the city for show. That was, that's, that's the story of the city right there. I mean, all of a sudden there's bodies dropping and was that something that you weren't really used to in terms of being associated with the rap scene before that? Yeah, no, we didn't have one of those cities where rappers just be getting killed and, shit like that. Even still,

it's not a lot of rappers that undied. It's a couple. Recipes Mo3 recipes, BFG strap, but it's not that many rappers that just be dying like that out there.

Yeah, because I had no idea how real it was and then I remember I was at, remember there was a huge juice world, a yellow bezy,

et cetera show in Dallas. Was Future on it? Yeah, Future was on that too. He didn't perform if he was on the thing. It was supposed to be. Really? Because, okay,

so I went out to that. And, you know, I remember, like, seeing Bezzi just, you know, on some cool shit, whatever. And then I see video of Mo3 trying to get in because they had added Mo3 to the bill, like, later on. And apparently Bezzi and them didn't know. And I think Bezzi said, like, I'm not fucking with him coming backstage and being part of this or whatever. However, it went down, Mo3 was not allowed in and he got arrested, I believe. And it was this whole fucking thing. And that kind of caused me to be like, oh, okay, this isn't just some shit where they don't like each other.

This is some shit where they really are supposed to be around each other and shit. No, yeah, that shit got serious. But, like, to y'all, this is, this is just, you know what I'm saying, some shit y'all watching. But to us, we're in the middle of this shit. This shit is going on, you know what I'm saying, in the city. Like, this is our local news type shit. Like, on Facebook. Facebook is, we are Facebook city.

I don't know if people. Oh, yeah, we are a big Facebook city. If you want to get to the city, like the hood and the people that's just in the city, you got to get on Facebook. That's crazy because then everybody's post. and under their real names and shit, too, right? Yeah. A lot of people still got their real names on their motherfuckers. Yeah, it's super funny.

But that happens in, like, Chicago and New York and shit, too. Like, there's just certain cities that are still clinging on to Facebook. Yeah, another big one is Memphis. Memphis be on Facebook like a motherfucker. Really? Oh, yeah. And it's funny because, like, a page will, like, one of the fan pages will post up, like, look at this thing, 600 Breezy said, and I'm just reading it.

Like, how is that 600 Breezy? And I'm like, oh, right. Antonio. Yeah, that's just real. name. Yeah, 600 Breezy definitely be on Facebook like a motherfucker too. Okay. Yeah.

But isn't there a limit on how many friends you can have? People can follow you. After 5,000 friends, you can just get followers. It's been years since I really spent a lot of time on Facebook. Yeah, that's why a lot of cities don't be on Facebook like that. But we're one of those cities that's still Facebook heavy. Right. Definitely.

So, okay. What's your policy on shooting diss songs? Long as you ain't dissing nobody. Well, I really don't do that shit no more. I've kind of grown past that But back then, long as you ain't dissing I can't even say that I can't even say that I was about to say long as you ain't dissing one of my people

But shit I was shooting diss songs And damn they're editing the motherfuckers In front of my people so I can't But does that seem like a mistake now Or was that just you kind of having to force yourself To be independent of all the bullshit Nah because

I can't even say Like I said it wasn't no real like bodies just dropping like that behind this shit. It was really just some rap shit. Beef and disc songs are kind of whatever until they're waving a gun in the camera and saying, I'm coming to your crib, this is your grandmother's address,

60. No, they was doing all that. It just wasn't nobody getting killed. They was doing the most. But they just wasn't, you know what I'm saying, actually succeeding until motherfuckers started succeeding. Right. And so that made you kind of have to look at it a little differently? I just grew out of it. I just kind of got older. That's, I don't

No, that's just some, I was some young nigginess shit that I was doing when I was young. You know what I'm kind of too old for that shit now. Yeah. I mean, you always kind of run into that as a person who's creating content, even doing interviews and stuff, you know. I mean, we're pretty aggressive with, like, asking people about their issues with other people and stuff. I don't really shy away from it. A lot of interviewers shy away from it. For me, I can't just leave that shit on the table.

Like, I want to know. I got to ask. Yeah, you got to know. Absolutely. It's fine if you don't want to talk about it, but I got to ask. Got to ask. But it's weird being the video guy because it's like literally that music video wouldn't happened if it wasn't for you or it would have happened but it would have been on a different

platform if it goes in your platform that's when it starts a really good sticky right okay that's how my that's how my platform end up booming because like I said go yayo and the person that was dising him spud boom I'm shooting both of their videos uploading them both on my same channel I'm talking about I'm uploading go yayo this day uploading spud boom this back to him the next day type shit so that's how the traction start rolling in right beef helps beef brings numbers I'll say that Beef definitely brings numbers

It's just like long term Can be weird Oh yeah It definitely burns out And gets weird after a while But yeah It'll bring some numbers Especially in a small city

Where there's like real It's like easy for people To pull up on each other and shit What? Because I've seen on your channel You got Kenny B doing ape K Which is dissing ape gang

What the fuck is ape gang I don't know sure Ape gang That's some young niggas From Stop 6 some young blood niggas it's a bunch of them shout out eight gang um

see that's how fucked up the dissing shit is though is that I'm clicking on this and watching this and I don't know who the fuck they are right you don't even know who the fuck you're doing it but it sounds more interesting to hear somebody diss somebody than to just make a regular song I think that my brain works that way but it's just reality yeah it's different

when you actually know the people they're talking about and the shit that in the situations they be talking about in the songs and shit like that too definitely so like more more recently I've seen you tapping in with D-Baby over the past couple of years he's been kind of blowing up like was that just another artist that's straight from uploads

d baby kind of he he was when he first started rapping his manager hit me up he started uploading on my channel i've never met d baby to this day really i've never even had a conversation with d baby that's crazy all through his manager uploads on my channel he started picking up traction taking off shit that's wow because that's one artist that i hear people actually really talking about out here for an artist to go from like hot in Texas to hot in California. They really have to kind of rise to a certain level for people to start paying attention.

Definitely. Do you ever do anything with splurge? Yeah. That's a little problem. Hell, yeah. Splurge had a nice wave going for a while. He used to be at my store all the time and shit. He was sick.

No. Splurge still out there. He's still doing it, but now he's like a grown-up. Yeah. He looks kind of totally different. He could come walk up to me on the street right now. I'm not going to recognize him because I guarantee he doesn't look like he used to, right? Now he still, well, he don't got dreads no more.

See, that's going to throw me for a little. Yeah, when you see, when you think of Splurge, when he first started, you're thinking the thing with the little dreads and, nah, he don't got the dreads no more, but he's definitely, he, he haven't. He had that flow before, like, everybody else had it. No, yeah, Splurge came out with some different shit. Him and Beats by Jeff, they came with their own sound and kind of brought a new wave into the DLW with the no melody beats.

He was doing beats with no, it was straight drums or straight bass. Yeah, and there was just like a time period where, I mean, people were calling the DMV flow, but I kind of felt like I heard Splurge doing it almost before I heard Hoodrich Pablo and all these other people kind of taking it to another level. No, I ain't going to say that. I ain't going to say that because when Splurge first came out,

everybody was like everybody was saying, he sounded like Pablo 1. He sounded like Pablo 1. He sounded like a little baby Pablo. Like shit. Free my boy Pablo. I know I'm like one of the only. I don't shop for Pablo too.

All right, good. Because that's one person that I feel like, I feel like a lot of the rumors and shit about him were Cap. And then I also feel like he gets talked about like he was a bitch or some shit talking about him getting robbed or whatever I don't personally think that because you maybe got robbed one time that that's enough

for me to judge your character right anybody can get robbed that's just man a lot of niggas done got robbed since since then yeah yeah fingers crossed but yeah that's man that shit that shit happens but yeah it did affect his career but he's in there doing his time like a man

and I'm definitely I'm excited to tap in with him again once he gets out do you know when he's supposed to be getting out I don't know. A few years at least, I think. Damn. But whenever I mention him, his Instagram account will message me. It would be like, thank you for mentioning him. So, keeps you motivated. Yeah.

One of the rappers in our city kind of joined with Pablo I. One, little C.J. Casino. Oh, yeah. He kind of went over there and joined with Pablo One. He'd still be fucking with them and shit like that, NPR. So, yeah, that's one of the people I came up with, too, a little C.J. Casino. Right. So, okay.

How did you start? your relationship with Sean Cotton. When did you guys meet in show? Man, me and Sean Cotton was in the streets at the same time coming up with the camera. So when I shoot a video, he posted on Say Cheese. So it was a hand-in-hand thing. Kind of the content that I was doing,

and he was posting, that was where Say Cheese started getting his buzz. So he was posting music videos on the channel back then as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. But like Texas artists was giving them a lot of other content to post too like sauce walker and mo3 go yayo they just they're the type of niggas that'll get on live

instagram live or just say some crazy shit all the time so he was constantly having shit to post but yeah it was a lot of music videos at first were you looking at him doing the interviews and were you were like that's an interesting way for you to be going because it's kind of different like i felt like a lot of people didn't see the vision or how much value there was in creating content early on no no we always knew when say cheese first came out we We knew it was special. We was on Say Cheese. When they first started, it was already a big thing in our city.

And our city was always a big thing when Say Cheese came out. So, no, it was never weird to me. It was never weird to me. And I still don't have a Say Cheese interview to this day, Sean. Really? So are you guys back on better terms? Because I know at one point you connected him with a guy who was supposed to fix his car. And then the guy ended up kind of being shady.

and I was watching an interview clip from a few years ago Sean Cotton talking about this and he was still like not stoked on the fact that he like lost five grand on his car repair that was his favorite car he uh yeah that was my brother fucked him over on that one but we was never on bad terms like me and I had never had no beef with Sean Cotton and no shit like that but he was just standing on business my brother did some shady business with him so

it was like shit we say cheese will not fuck with nobody in y'all group I had to take that one on the chin I don't know Maybe after he see this Sean maybe I can get a So you haven't talked to him in a few years No no no no we talk I haven't talked to him for show

We still talk all the time On Twitter DMs And I just seen him in person Not too long go at a Charleston White show Okay Yeah no it's it's all cool It's all cool for show Right I mean I always thought he was interesting

Because he's apparently made a lot of money Over the years with signing artists and stuff So he can kind of like Use the interview thing to sign artists that he's able to meet early on, which I've never really been able to do both at the same time. I'm like so focused on the content that I never really even tried to sign artists. But that's like a really kind of ingenious way to use your platform is like care less about the views and more about being able to just use this as a way to tap in with

the artist really. He grabbed a couple of art like splurge. Sean Cotton was the one that grabbed splurge. I didn't even know that. Yeah, Sean Cotton, the one that grabbed splurge. Um, splurge. I want to say cash page. Oh yeah, she's dope. BFB to Pac Man. Shout on my man BFB.

Yeah. I wonder if he's still, is he still a mailman or? Nah, I don't think so. I think he got enough money to quit that job by now. Because when I interviewed him back in the day,

he was saying like, yeah, I'm going to stay a mailman forever or until I like really make a shitload of money from music and stuff. So I always wonder like, is he still grinding with the music, but did he at some point leave the mailman?

I mean I'm posting no mailman shit in the minute, so I'm pretty sure he off that job now, but I know he's getting rap money like a motherfucker. So he's popping right now? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've always thought he was dope, but that's interesting. Yeah, now, Pac-Man is super dope.

That's my boy. Definitely, yeah. Okay, and so you mentioned Charleston White. What's it been like to see him just become, like, arguably the biggest star coming out the city? So the first time we ever seen Charleston White, he was on the news. snitching. Snitching. Going against Go Yeo.

Yeah. So like I said, I was in Go Yeo camp. So we're like, so we all like, man, what the fuck? He wasn't even Charleston White at this time. Like, he was Charleston White, but he wasn't the Charleston White that we know. But he's on the news as like community activists. Yeah, he was just a regular pedestrian. And then, shit, he turned up on our ass.

He turned into Charleston White. I mean, because L.A. kind of has that version of it, too. There's a bunch of dudes who can be like, I remember when he was out here trying to be a Crip and trying to hang out with all these like gangster dudes and shit. And then all of a sudden he's like, you know, swearing death upon the Crips. Who? Charleston because he's, you know, talking about how much he hates gang members. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, now, here, yeah. Now, I fuck with Charleston White, though. That's my, that's my, that's unc, man. Right. But now, when Charleston White first came out, everybody hated him. I sat there and watched everybody go from hating them to loving them because he's, like, he one of them guys who just got a love because he says some real shit. Like whether you want to agree with him or not,

he's going to say some real shit to get you on his side for show. Yeah, it's weird. It's like hard to square the fact that he does say so much real shit and is so funny and so has such good observations. But then at the same time, he does sometimes say like the worst shit you ever heard in your entire life about wanting gang members to die, wanting rappers to die, talking about Blueface's kid,

he'll have a place a bet that the kid's going to die, all this shit. And then, you know, even like the, stuff talking about raping Jewish and aging babies and killing he's going to say whatever but then he also will say he's talking about raping white women but then he'll say

I was playing a character right which is weird because that sounds like such bullshit but then once you've actually watched the real him in the business stuff you start to realize like I guess that is a character because bullshit and if you know Charleston white in real life you know man that nigger is the coolest nigga

man all that's the shit he'd be saying, and he's going to stand on that shit, too. He's going to say that shit. And if you approach him in real life, he's going to stand on it. And he's going to pepper spray you. And he's going to pepper spray, whatever he got in his arsenal. You kind of motivated me to get some pepper spray and a knife and shit. I'll tell you.

Let's be real. A lot of situations where you end up in a situation, you don't want to shoot the person. Yeah, you just want to get them off you. But you can always pepper spray, you know. Charles is going to pull out their both fucking pepper spray. Yeah, shooting somebody in the mall is like, your whole life just is going to turn into chaos after that. But you could bust a pepper spray cloud and just disappear like that, man.

Get up out of that, man. No, for sure. Now, I got a, I'm on Charleston Wife's podcast now. They just added me as the, uh. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's it called? Game related, the game related podcast.

Yeah. Me, him, and Dewberry. Okay. Yep. Interesting. All right. And so you said that he's the new Malcolm X. Mm-hmm.

In what way exactly? man because he speak his mind and he's standing on and he's standing on what he's talking about and he's a community activist that's the real Charleston White cares about the youth he's trying to change

the youth the he what Charles and White will tell you I don't get a fuck by no grown nigga I can't change no grown nigga I give a fuck about these kids he's trying to change the upcoming of

you know what I'm saying the next generation Right. You don't get a fuck about no grown-up. Yeah. No, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that he says that seems really offensive at first, but when you really drill down into it, it's kind of obvious.

He was right. Yeah, I mean, like, all the anti-street shit or all the anti-gang shit, it's like, well, it is kind of hard for me to sit here and, like, argue with you. Right. It's real. Absolutely right. If you a young kid and you decide to start hanging out on gangs and shit, it's probably not going to be a great decision for your life.

Definitely. He'd be absolutely right. So I agree with him 100% on that shit. So how do you get shot while doing a video? Man, I was out in the grove. If you're from Dallas, you know about the grove. You know what the grove is, man. Me, I'm not knowing how serious the grove is at this time.

What is the grove? The grove is a pleasant grove. That's a, yeah, that's a hood in Dallas. Okay. That's a hood in Dallas. So, yeah, we out there at the corner store, shooting the music video. Somebody, because I don't know. where they came from.

I still didn't see no car, no nothing to this day. Come spray the video shoot up. And this was a time where, so you know how cameraman they always got their little stabilizers and I didn't have that at the time. No,

I had a hoverboard. Oh, really? I was on the hoverboard using that as my in and out, yeah. Shooting you while you're on the hoverboard is the ultimate disrespect. That's fucked up. Imagine that.

You out here trying to have fun. I'm trying to have fun. I'm shooting. the video. They start spraying the video shoot up. I jump off the hubbard, so I caught one in the back of the... I ain't going to say I caught one because it wasn't just, it didn't just hit me like that. It grazed me, but it's definitely, it definitely left a mark. Grased your leg or what? My leg, yeah, the back of my leg. Did anybody else get hit worse? Yeah, somebody got shot in the dick. What? I say, I'm looking at this man right in front of me while we ducking bullets.

He's talking about I'm hit his whole lap. Bloody. I'm like, but I can't. Satan, we still hiding under calls, ducking bullets and shit. But yeah, somebody definitely got hit that day. Holy shit. Imagine never been able to use your dick again because you got shot in it? And this is, I'm out here with a whole bunch of niggas that I don't know. I've never, I, I, you could place every nigga that was out there in front of me today. I wouldn't know who they are.

You're just young and naive and just being like, fuck it. I'm out here just shooting a video. I'm just shooting a video. I don't think. And this is the first day that I got my first car. I got my first car on this. imagine if I was out there and they did that shit and I had to go hit your ride. This is the day I got my first car and I go out there and that shit happened.

So luckily I was able to just get in my car and drive off. You had to go to the hospital or not? No, because I just got grazed. I went to the tattoo shop and patched that shit up. Seriously? Yeah. Patched it up? Like what?

My leg was bleam. I went there and got a fake skin type shit that they put over? No, no, no. Like a first aid. I put a little band a day. put a little peroxide, a little band-aid on that. You know what I'm saying? It was cool.

You really meant for this life. You got shot you and didn't even give a fuck. I went to the tattoo shop. Damn. That's grimy. Okay. So, yeah, but was that the beginning of you really kind of changing your mentality on the content? Yes.

A lot of people had this story. Like, Vlad has stories about how he would pull up and shoot a video on somebody's porch in the middle of Compton. And the whole time they're looking both ways. And they got the homie standing right there. to shoot something, but, I mean, you could have 10 homies ready to shoot something and the shit goes down. Man, you're still just a random white guy staying in there.

When that shit happened to me, it was literally every nigga out there was pointing guns in the camera doing all this shit. Shot start ringing off. Everybody ran. Really? Because we didn't know where it came from. They don't know where to return fire to, so everybody just running. Holy shit.

So all that having guns and videos shit don't mean you on defense. But what's the vibe like out there in terms of firearms? Because like for us in New York and Chicago, yeah, everybody got to be hell of low key about it in LA and Chicago and New York and shit. But then meanwhile in Texas, it's a lot looser. Everybody has one. Really? You'll be lucky to find a nigga without a gun. Really?

Everybody got one. But you go to the club or a party or like a club or somewhere where you have to get frisked on the way in. Everybody got leaving it in the car, right? No. Well, in theory. Well, in theory, yeah. And with the best security, I guarantee you it's at least five. niggas in the club with a gun on them.

Because we know the security. The security is local too. Right. When I go to the club, security don't check me like that. And depending on the club, I go to. Right. So if I want a gun, I can have a gun. Were you a fan of Tax Stone at any point?

I'd say the early days of his podcast. Nah, I've seen the only text on, um, interview I ever seen was the one with him and Meek Mill in the car. In the car, right? Yeah. That was the only one I've ever seen. Because that was an extreme example because he was. was at a venue in Times Square

that is like the most it's like being in fucking Disneyland it's like the ultimate spot where you would think that nobody's getting a gun in right but he got it in because he apparently walked around the shit he probably knew the security whatever and then he ended up killing somebody and now he's gone for like 10 years or 15 years and wasn't that shit self-defense when he did it

realistically he was the only one who had a gun so probably not and also in New York I don't think that there's like self-defense laws like that like you're basically if you shoot somebody you're saying guns is not They're crazy fucking with guns in New York You get 10 years

Right Just having one But you don't need to To go buy a gun in Texas You don't need to You could just be anybody You could just be a method And you can just walk into the gun store

You can buy a gun from Walmart Yeah Yeah No kind of background checking up Not especially And they just made it to where You don't even need a license To have a gun no more

You can have a gun So you feel like that makes the city feel safer or more dangerous Because like in L.A similar vibe You go to certain functions and events and stuff, and you know that a huge percentage of the people have guns on them, but they're all illegal guns or not legally being carried in this situation.

And so you end up with a situation where it's like there might be less guns in L.A., but only the strapping young books who are down to carry them have them. Exactly. If a motherfucker is a criminal going to have a gun regardless. Exactly. So in Texas, whether you're a criminal or not, you got a gun. So I say, I definitely will say it's safer problem. because I ain't going to say

motherfuckers just don't be wilding out there but it's not as bad as other cities with stricter gun laws motherfuckers be getting shot but it's not that bad like that right but you have to conceal it right because

I remember ESTG telling me in Louisville that you're outside walking down the street and his neighborhood people just walk around with Draco's and shit and just they don't have to hide it they can just carry it in their hand walking down the street. Yeah.

No, in Texas, you definitely got to have a concealed. It's definitely concealed carry. You got to have like a holster or something like that. But I feel like people be having like rifles on their back. Yeah. But that's only like white people.

You don't never see no niggas walking around with no rifles. That, nah, that ain't happening. Yeah, I feel like it being concealed is a good compromise because somebody walking down the street with a drago is going to fuck the vibe of. You know,

for sure. You're scaring the hose. For sure. What? Definitely scaring the hose. What are you doing with that? Yeah. But I remember actually from talking to dudes in Chicago, they basically informed me that, A, if you don't have a gun, every girl is going to think you're goofy.

And most of the girls have guns. Oh, yeah. Which was kind of eye opening when I heard that. Because my bitch is just not the type of whatever even look at a fucking gun. Right. No, yeah. No, that's how it is in Texas, too. Every girl got a gun.

Yeah. Yeah. Damn. And we'll pop your ass, too. So what's the status of your relationship with Rainwater? I know you guys were going back and forth a lot. You still got issues? Me and Rainwater never had no serious issues.

We was on some back-and-forth riff-raft competition. My art is better than yours type shit. But I don't know. Rainwater is just not my type of guy. Really? He's not somebody I hang with, but, you know, he's cool. How did you feel seeing him barking at Tribe Boy, Freddy, in the parking lot? He knew he knew what he was doing.

He knew, he knew. That he was basically doing it for the camera because obviously Freddie ain't going to do nothing in this environment. Man, Freddy got bigger shit going on than to be out there just woofing with rain like that. So yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Interesting. So to bring it full circle, how did you actually tap in with my man Tony Woolrich? Man, I've been knowing Tony since, like we grew up in the same city.

So Tony's like viral moments and shit like that, that's nothing new. He's been going viral having fights and just lives and shit like that going on in the city for years. Tony been, everybody in Fort Worth know who Tony is. So when you see him pop up on no jumper as the gay Crip, that must have been fucking hilarious to you, right? He was a gay, he was the gay Crip when I shot his first video like three years ago. And it kind of went viral, went on World Star and shit like that. the gay crypt, but once he came up here, it went, you know what I'm saying, much bigger, but Because you have him sitting across from some Crips who really- Some real Crips from L.A.

Yeah, yeah, it's different, but no, yeah, he's been, he's been on that gay Crip shit for years. But so it didn't go that viral in your city? In my, in the city, yeah. It was at the time, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But people weren't mad about it, or? Of course, of course. The Crip niggers do not, but they ain't, I ain't gonna say, they don't like it, but it ain't like nobody's just going to, on fine Tony and just beat them up like that because they know Tony, they respect

them, I guess, but it ain't like nobody just pressing them about it and those shit like that, but they don't like it. Right. But he really like made the most out of that O.G. Percy cosign. Because like, we didn't even know who O.G. Percy was was

this old Crip apparently is cosigned. No, if O.G. Percy been one of them he was certified. O.G. Percy certified. When O.G. Percy was locked up. Niggas was talking about. OG Percy. I remember somebody posted some shit roasting OG Percy daughter on

the internet a couple years ago and muffled was like, nigga, this OG Percy daughter. You don't know who you fucking with type shit like so. Type shit like that. Like, so yeah, no, OG Percy been around. He's certified for show. Right. Definitely. You were a huge

Sauce Walker fan? How do you view that the role of the sauce family in Texas? And my boys. Hell, yeah. I love Sauce Walker. That's my people. them. Right. That's my peepin' them. Yeah, that was, we all was in cahoots early too. Sauce, Rizzo, peso, peso, man, everybody over there. I can't just name because there's so many of them, but everybody over there. Walker asked me to go to a show a couple weeks ago and I said I would go and, you know, you say you're going to go and then, like, actually a bunch of shit happens and you don't end up going and it hits me last minute. Like you're coming and I'm like, God, I feel like my fucking asshole.

Like a dick. Like, damn, I actually like you, bro. Like I wanted to go with, like I got shit, my kid and my girl. And on Salz Walker show is a different experience, though. That motherfucker is that that's a good show. Well, that's what I wanted to see in L.A. is what kind of crowd he brings out. Yeah, no, that's a good show. Saus Walker is going to put on the show. Even if, not on the stage.

So you know, Salis Walker going to put on the show. Because he's going to be getting in the crowd and shit. Oh, yeah, he do all that. You do all that. Definitely. So, all right, what are the trends that you see going on in terms of the Texas music scene? Or is there any artists that we need to really be on the lookout for at this point? Hell yes, a lot of artists.

It depends on what genre you're looking for. Street shit. If you're looking for some street shit, you need to be listening to Zillionaire Doe right now. YS.M. Barrio. Kev got bands. Kevin got bands. Of course, big extra plug.

Oh, yeah. But that goes without saying. Fat motherfucker. Yeah, for show. Of course, Tribe Boy Freddy, get money, a little running. Man, I could go all day on some street rap, It's a bunch of street rappers out at end.

Because you shot for Big X the plug early on too, right? Yeah. He broke off my platform. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I was doing, I do music. Matter of fact, I do music reviews because of you. I did.

I think I invented that. I don't know if you invented it, but I can tell you right here to your face. I do music reviews because of no jumper. No cap. I have a very conflicted relationship with that shit because on one hand, I never really was able to develop like a style of a. live streaming because people just started donating for me to listen to their shit. And then that kind of became what the shit was is every time I went on stream, it's like,

okay, I'm listening to music for eight hours. Now the positive side of that is I'm pretty sure I made like a couple million dollars off of doing that shit. Type shit. The negative side is that it's just like for a while, every time I go on stream, it's just song after song. But I feel like the shit kind of cooled down because during the SoundCloud era is when it was just insane.

Yeah. It was crazy. Once I've seen y'all doing it, And matter of fact, Tony Willrich manager, Supreme, he was the first person I seen doing music reviews in Texas. He brought me on this show, and I did music reviews with him. I waited like a year, and then I started doing them on my own once he stopped doing it. And it was a B-O-B's manager.

His name was T-J's DJ, T-J or something like that. Okay. He was the very first person I ever seen doing music reviews. Yeah, so, yeah. It's crazy because in theory, if doing that could help you find artists before they crack off and shit. Correct. So with that being said, I was doing music reviews and I found Big Extra Plug. Big Extra Plug sent his song getting the music reviews and off rip.

He sounded like how he sounds today. So we like, this nigga is special. So I shot his video. I shot a couple videos for him. They start taking off and now you have the Big Extra Plug that you know today. but yeah his first like real surgence of some buzz came from my music reviews right i definitely saw a juice world on music review stream before he was signed or anything and i for real didn't put the pieces together i listened to lucid dreams and didn't realize that it was a huge what he sent lucid dreams in

on music reviews before he was signed before anything i think part of the problem is that like you're listening to like 400 songs in a row you're right they all just start to blend together and it's like I can't tell the difference between this one and the 50 other fucking emo songs I've already listened to tonight. Which when I think about that, it's like, damn, that's kind of shameful. Like, that's just really, really tapped in there. Yeah. He was a no jumper artist instead of a fucking no limit artist. No, for real.

Juice is huge. Yeah, that was a time. Rest and peace. Not for sure. But, okay, what are you working on now? Like, in terms of, like, you're still doing music videos on a regular basis, but you're trying to think about some bigger ideas and shit as well? Yeah, I still do music views. I mean music videos, music reviews.

Right now, I just started my new series Behind the Bars. That's my live performance platform. Right, yeah. Yeah, so that's my new shit behind the bars. It's where you come perform your song. But it's not like the hanging mic videos where it's like just your song over. It's like live audio.

Like you're on the stage. You have to actually perform into this mic type shit. That's challenging, right? Because a lot of people can make a song in the studio or they can lip sing to a song, but they cannot fucking perform a whole song. And a lot of rappers these days, they punch in.

Yeah. So they be rapping over their self. And once you try to get on the mic and wrap that punch-in shit, it get tough. Oh, yeah. It get real tough. So, yeah, it's a challenge,

but it shows who the real artist is. I have to tell people that sometimes, like, you know he could never wrap this verse like this in a million fucking years, right? Right, exactly. You'll never run through that just off one. take. And people complain and they'll be like, I went and saw this person live and he was just

lip syncing and I'm like, yeah, but you don't understand that he could never rap that. Never. Yeah, yeah. Especially like Pablo I, Pablo I wraps like his last bar Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's intertwined with his next bar, so yeah, shit like that. Yeah, it becomes like a art project

at a certain point and it's not really like it's like you're making a beat almost. Like take these chunks of me rapping and just cram them together. Yeah. Yeah. But okay, so you're doing the documentary thing. Like how How could people get on this performance thing, the behind the bars thing? DME. Oh, we're actually taking it on tour right now.

We're going to go city to city. So you can go to Behind the bars live.com. And once we put your city up there, you can sign up. And you know what I'm saying? We'll be there. We're going bar to bar. Every city, different cities, different bars. People probably want to know this.

Half Pine Throne from Texas. How much lien you drank in your life? Never. Never. Not even once. Not one sip. Probably a good idea. Not one sip.

And that's what, that's a lot of, that's a, a misconception about me. A lot of people think I got my name from Lean. Right. They hear half a pint of him. They think, oh, that's some Texas shit. He'd drink Lean. No, never sip lean a day in my life. Never will.

Never. Interesting. You know, pop pills, nothing like that ever? I smoke weed, drink liquor. Right. No, I don't do no drugs. Yeah, those are pretty harmless compared to the lien. Exactly.

The lien is also so expensive that that's a big part of why it'll fuck your life up. Yeah. that too that too that's an expensive habit yeah yeah most of the people I've known throughout my life who spent some time hooked on lean just did not work out once I heard my motherfucker start saying two hundred dollars a line and shit like that I knew I'd never sit there shit yeah 200 for soda is insane yeah I bought some five thousand dollar pints in my day I don't know what the fuck insane once you even get halfway through and you're just looking at you're like what the fuck like what am I doing bad idea I'm not even a dick of this shit I'm just doing it's a

fuck around. Just, yeah. Nah, no, not. But that's Texas culture, though, for show. Yeah. So we grew up around it. Sipping Lean is a huge thing in Texas, but I never got into it. Are we seeing a lot more heads-up fades after Rizzo Rizzo and Maxo Creme fought in the parking lot that one time?

Or is that back in style a little bit? Uh, yeah. Right now, actually, the celebrity boxing is taken over right now. So motherfuckers trying to get their scratchy in. But now, yeah, when Rizzo and Maxo did that, it, um, um, It persuaded a lot of people to, you know what I'm saying? Right. Goe Goeo was one of the first,

Goeo and Saliswaka was like the first Texas rapper that you can like go on YouTube and watch their fights type shit. They fought and people recorded that. I didn't even know that. Yes. Goeo was viral for his fights damn there more than his music. Right. He was beating niggas up.

And so Salzwaga had a couple of them out there. He was beating niggas up in the mall. in. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was the dude the fucking, he fought the dude in the mall and then Beek King made a song about him fighting the motherfucker in the mall. Remember this? Did he make, do he, Beekin make a song about at that time, Beekin was making a song about anything

that was viral going on. Beekin was making a song about it. Yeah. That's another person I came up with from day one too. Beekin, really? Yes. There you go. Yeah, from day one. Well, not from his day one, from my day one. Right. The clubs, do the clubs make like a huge difference in terms of what music cracks off in Dallas or in Texas these days? Not so much right now, but a couple years ago, yeah, I wanted to get back to, you know what I'm saying, where the clubs breaking music, but it ain't really too much music breaking off in

the clubs like that. It's kind of interesting because it's like, that's like typically going to be more pop type shit, whereas like a lot of the shit that seems popular these days is more street-type music that doesn't really make sense in the club. Right. No, the shit out there, dude. Motherfuck, yeah, hell yeah. Street shit is, there's all you're going to hear in the club. Hell yeah, hell yeah.

Makes sense. All right, anybody want to shout out or anybody you want to, anything you want to tell the audience? If you're a rapper, go to Behind the BarsLive.com and sign up right now. You know what I'm saying? So when we come to your city, you can get on the platform. Shout out Topoff Entertainment.

Shout out. Shout out, uh, shout out, uh, ah. God. This is the part where you, uh,

start trying to think of names and motherfuckers. You say you left them out and shit. Fuck all that. But yeah, nah, yeah. Shout out my peepin' them. Yeah.

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