No Jumper - Hardbody Lodox on Being from Welch World, Tay Savage, Disses 051 Kiddo & More

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

Hardbody Lodox talks about the nuances of pushing peace, Tay Savage, Billionaire Black, FYB J Mane, TTB Nez, and more.   / hardbody4340   ----- 0:00 Intro 0:10 Hardbody says he is all in for pus...hing the peace while a lot of are opposed 3:33 Hardbody describes his project as a box and that is about survival 6:45 Hardbody says his daughter hates his music, says he is from Welch World 10:39 Hardbody talks about his big brother being best friends with Tay Savage 12:37 Hardbody says they are not a gang and the sign he throws up is for his brother who died 16:00 Hardbody says that Buck 20 was the first one who started rapping from So Icy and says that Pacman had sh*t that was turnt 19:45 Hardbody on Rico Recklezz showing support. Hardbody speaks to people opposing thr**ts to his life 22:07 Hardbody describes how he knows Kyro and that Kyro is funny as hell. Hardbody says he created his rap dream from the pain of being locked up 29:34 Hardbody speaks about how he is arguing with Billionaire online now but considers it to be brotherly love 33:30 Hardbody speaks about why he doesn't kick it with J Mane, Hardbody says that Tay is a good guy and that Billionaire be lying 37:18 Hardbody talks about how Tay survived a lot of sh*t and that Tay beat them cases. Hardbody says that J Mane has never seen Tay k__ anyone 39:35 Hardbody says they don’t be watching the Trap Lore Ross documentary and calls Trap Lore Ross a fan 42:00 Hardbody says that Tay is not perfect when dissing opps in his song and that Tay lost a lot of close friends. Hardbody describes being locked up at seventeen and being locked up with Kiddo 46:55 Hardbody on beefing with Kiddo while being locked with him 50:20 Hardbody speaks on despising goofy sh*t and how Tay is dissing people that he doesn’t even know 54:15 Hardbody describes the different waves of people being brought into the jail. Hardbody describes how he thought he never thought he was going to get out of jail 1:02:30 Hardbody speaks about getting a chance to switch to a different deck but doesn’t. Hardbody talks about his relationship with TTB Nez and says most people from his area don’t remember TTB Nez in the streets 1:06:40 Hardbody talks about his relationship with Muda. Hardbody talks about Tay going to jail for m__ and beating the case 1:16:18 Hardbody talks about the Boss Man D Low remix that he made and the lyrics he made speaking about his opps in the remix. Hardbody speaks about how he has brothers on the other side 1:19:41 Hardbody speaks about the situation popping off at the family reunion 1:28:00 Hardbody says it is his first time in Cali and talks about what music people should listen to from his catalog 1:31:33 Hardbody says that he and Tay have some music coming soon. Hardbody considers himself as the underdog and has been doing music for a long time Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know how that go. Probably not on YouTube about as much, but... That's what's up, man. YouTube, uh... He's like, that's cute. Look, that's... We push a piece, though, so it's great that y'all can sit down there. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:00:15 So you support the pushing of the piece? Yeah, I mean, I'm all for the pushing of the piece, you feel? You know, but there's always people that go against, like, whatever you're with, like, somebody, like... Everybody got people that... opposed to what they feel and what they got going on. We pushing peace is people that's going to jump out there or something. And fuck y'all in y'all are pushing peace.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Like disrespect us and threaten us and us. Why we just really sitting here trying to push peace them. I'm the type of feel like, yeah, we're pushing peace. But you still got to be on the lookout for those type of people. I feel like people in Chicago, it's more like we're pushing peace, except the dudes we're really into it with. Yeah, because if we come, because look, when, when it all started and we, we opened a dough for it, it was open. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:01:08 Like, if you only take it, that's what child alone. Like, what, we ain't begging nobody to be like ceasefire and nothing. Like, we ain't even on that. Like, we on some, man, we got kids. I got a kid, I got a daughter now. And we got kids, nothing like, you feel, me. We grew up like this. We product of our environment.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Like, ain't nobody that's really. with me. Everybody with me been with me since I was a little kid right now. Everybody you've seen today. That's with me. And ain't none of them like chasing that image like this just grew up like this
Starting point is 00:01:44 this is what it was like we ain't wishing for the violence and praying for hoping for it and all that like growing up where we grew up at it is what it is like it fell in with us. It came with just being what we're at for real low like low key.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Like, growing up in the schools we was in, like, the type of people that's five, ten years older than us that we're seeing doing what they're doing and surviving out here. Like, because it's really survival. Like, we're trying to live, but we're living. Yeah, we survive and still, you know. So that's by people, when we come on some, like, because we don't done enough, when we ain't no pushovers or not, like, no. Like, we ain't, ain't nobody standing that's to me going to just let you push them. It's like that with us.
Starting point is 00:02:30 See, that's the other problem with this new push-in-peace mentality is that, like, dudes might want to push peace, but only after they've gotten to a point where they feel like they're respected for being willing. Because we all know that the way that the social hierarchy works out for dudes in the street, dudes in prison, et cetera, is basically the dude who's willing to be the most violent is basically going to be at the top of the top. Potom pole in terms of who's got control over everybody else at the end of the day. You could try to avoid that, but that's the nature of how people who are willing to engage
Starting point is 00:03:09 violence basically end up arranging themselves in society. Yeah, for sure that. I agree with you, but at the same time, though, it's like, every fight, everything play a a factor, everything play a role in it at the same time, like, because, you feel me? shit gonna be what it be like whether your parents even like where we from a lot of us got good parents and everything like our parents want no pushovers either like we see bro mama we see bro o g and she she she got a lot to see she you feel me the aggressive type parent like the you feel me like me like she might say something you ain't expected how to say to you you feel in there like
Starting point is 00:03:52 damn but this bro mama so this is bro o g so i you feel me like but great parents though you feel me strong parents but you still like where I'm from gotta see the stand on your feet or you're gonna fall off of you feel me like but but but but but but I don't feel like it came from like like because look we we we was known where we from this shit like as these types are already like like it took a minute for people to because everything happened growing up people seeing like It really won't know hope. Yeah, people already, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was ugly. You feel, we, we from, like, this project, what, it ain't, like, it's a little box, you feel
Starting point is 00:04:37 me, like, and in the middle, it's some pot holes, I mean, some flower pots. Mm-hmm. You feel, it's, like, when you step in there, it's, like, a lot of dust and, the grass, sandy, and it's dirty, and it's, like, like, not all the time, like, you feel me, the weather might hit this, and the people might, you feel, me, the city might hit this or something, but this, this, like, just, like, back in the projects, how it was, like a smaller piece of that right here on the low end like still right here like we grew up in this whole of vicinity around it like and it's just that treacherous like you feel you feel
Starting point is 00:05:06 you throw them as long as you come out your dough you in the hood already like yeah like um but it's survival like i said so was there a chance of you being a good kid or was it like shit was so crazy from such a young age that it's like hard to even imagine that look it's like this some of us like this is where we this where we grew up at and this what it is and this is how it ended up being
Starting point is 00:05:29 but some of us had a chance like he hoop but he slipped probably like first pipe case shit I already knew what I wanted to be shit hoping it was just some shit but you had a chance
Starting point is 00:05:42 like you had a chance at one point though you feel like you could have because look if he didn't ever slip on catching like a case a certain case that took all that out the agenda like now like you ain't no chance of that he would have been he was so cold on his feet
Starting point is 00:05:56 and playing with that fact he would have been you can't help it you feel me how it's just like being a rap aloki you feel me whooping high at front of hood that's one of them dreams like he would have been
Starting point is 00:06:05 playing in the hooping doing his thing under that clock still to this day right now if he ain't never slipped in the streets one time but like he said when you step out your mama crib and that's the streets
Starting point is 00:06:16 it's why you bound you bound either drown or you're going to swim like, feel me? There ain't nothing us doing no drowning.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And it's so early for us though we had to be swimming as you feel me so us pushing the piece now we don't want people
Starting point is 00:06:32 looking like oh they like they sweet and not y'all know we know people ain't looking at us like that
Starting point is 00:06:37 like we ain't even thinking like like we ain't it ain't that we really we really got like I say
Starting point is 00:06:43 I got a daughter my little sister just started college she despised my music for real you know like you know like
Starting point is 00:06:51 real preppy type real all A she gets an A minor She gonna have a fit You feel me? Like that type of little kid You feel me like Just started college She dropped in her location to my phone
Starting point is 00:07:04 So I can see the campus I'm random nice looking See what she on how And she knows that you make Crazy ass drum music And she hates it See we grew up in that look So for everybody who don't know
Starting point is 00:07:19 Who we got in the building Some of them are Late introduction. You keep saying where you from, but I don't think they really know. I'm like, all right, so. Yeah, man, it's hard body load action, man. 4,340.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Breakfast, shoddy. She's my big brother. And I'm outside. Before the interview started, we was out there kicking and chopping up. It's like a couple people out there, and everybody out there from Welch. Welch World, right? Yeah, we all right, well, right. All right, so Welch was, who was Welch to y'all?
Starting point is 00:07:49 Big brother. Yeah, that's one of the, you know, like, one of them people that, one of them people, one of them, one of them, one of them, one of them generations in our hood that kicked out what we really, like, stand for, like, like, solidarity as a family, like, you know, like, he was one of them, like, like, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, it's, man, man, stand strong on his own, like, like, like, like, he was, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, People running, we get back to the hood or something. He was the one. What's so with that? Feeling some way and trying to either, like, we're going to talk about it or whatever. Come with that.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Welch was one of them. Stand-up members 100%, you feel, me. Like, you know? To the YouTube crowd, the Welsh world thing became, like, basically synonymous with Tay Savage because he's had all this crazy-ass YouTube documentaries about him telling the story about how close they were before he lost his life and everything.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Where were you during those years and those early years, like all together? Oh, man. Like, see, like, early on, on the low end, you had a select few people, you had a select kind of, like, people played with guns, right? Like, it was at a certain level in the streets where. The Johnwick level. It wasn't even really, like, you know, super hectic. Like, you know, we was able to walk from the stow to the park to this park.
Starting point is 00:09:23 the back of the school, kick it. Like, it was times where me, him, a couple of them out there that's out there right now, like one of us would be like not trying to go in the crib. Like just want to be with the guys. Like, so all us, like, he had him from O.G., them and everything. We all in the back of the school, like all night with him. Like, just, all we safe, we're good, we're in the hood, we good,
Starting point is 00:09:46 he's with us. Like, we're gonna just all be out here, like, be good. Feeling like 20-folds, pulling 24s. That's what pulling 24s is with the guys like, like it was safe back then. Like, so all the gunplay and all that, like, we weren't worried about, we was in the way, but like right now, you know, it's like 30 guns around there, like, to protect the situation if we're having a party on the blog or something, they're going to have, like, that's a normalhood thing. Now, like, it's going to probably be a lot of people out here carrying a gun or something go down
Starting point is 00:10:18 or something like back then they wanted a lot of guns around it. We were safe kids running around. So, like, we was, we was cool. Like, feeling like, we, we was the kids in the hood where, like, right up entertaining them where, like, see, I'm, him and my big brother, their best friends, two years, three years older than me. Like, they got a crowd, then it's like, Tay, like, right there, and they crowd, like, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:49 And, you know, feel, he, he, he's slightly. older but they that's that's the crowd like his videos of him on YouTube right now call and like D gang's wearing TV they they on in the hood just chilling well talking fit me like talking this shit just yeah we yeah we out here so I see 40 your boys we're right here in the hood he walk up here man we out here I'm like I look like I'm off that shit well I ain't out of that we was just shorties it went but it wasn't a lot going on like you know it wasn't super deadly like you know back then like what happened
Starting point is 00:11:26 the wells really made it like that you feel where we from like you know like we was the aggressive kids that's we ain't as deep as y'all but most of the time be running from us you feel me like my just be running from us like it probably be like six of us like and we ain't even known that see us think it's sweet now we what getting it on with like and most these niggas be sweet for real so we grew up in that that square I told you like so we ain't sweet. We ain't have a real project though like we had a real project
Starting point is 00:11:57 but it won like everybody else's project was bigger than ours but we had like we just had real members like you feel but in that era I was out look I was deaf from the start though you feel me like so this is so icy air this way I'm rapping. I've been there from the start I've been I've been I've been up from the start all
Starting point is 00:12:11 me start rapping and shit probably show my appearance or whatever with a lot of the social media shit or you know but I ain't you feel me like ain't no new nigga no way like every part of this shit
Starting point is 00:12:24 every family organization yeah there ain't no gang shit like you know like literally ain't no you could get recruiting and be with us and now you good
Starting point is 00:12:32 you can we're not a gang we're not like the sign we throw up it's my brother name that dad you know yeah
Starting point is 00:12:41 like we really we really knowing each other from pamphers and up we had a church in our little square that I'm talking out it was a church right
Starting point is 00:12:49 on the corner like down the the street that everybody in our generation from my age to his age which was two years older right now then tatum age which a year too older from that everybody was in that building from when the school bill let out to probably like nighttime or look close before night time or something like all together like the whole neighborhood you feel like and like and we grew up under priest and church I mean the church you feel you feel up under the church like you know like why why it's got to be what this in the gang you know like it's and everybody was in grammar school together.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Because in LA in LA you could be from a certain gang and like you actually are not from there at all but maybe at a certain age because of some friendships or some relationship or family whatever you're all of a sudden from that place. And like everybody in LA knows that from doesn't mean the same thing that it means to certain people. Yes, well we're from is like I got cousins that's like like like that they grew up on what we would consider the other side, you feel me? And, nah, like, just because you, my family don't, like,
Starting point is 00:13:59 it's a line in the sand and the streets for rest. There's some rules, like, you know, like, because I got family that ain't never seen nothing about none of this shit, but grew up in this shit, though, you feel me, like, grew up in the slums of the rack, so they know what it is out here. They keep their head down there, be civilian, like, people, you feel it?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Because they ain't, that ain't the life. They're chasing, but I'll be in my head, though, like, you feel me? Like, it's square-ass, it's everywhere that are, oh, yeah, since your cousin from over here, that's lame, shit, for real. Like, not saying that the people in LA, how they shit set up is lame, I'm just saying, like,
Starting point is 00:14:43 where I'm from, like, If you hang with it, take it out, like, you feel, if you can call with them, it's not, that's what it is, but my people aren't hanging in that shit, and nothing like that. Like, if you hanging with it, that shit don't count for what you tell.
Starting point is 00:14:55 If you're hanging with them, you know what they got going on. You know, like, why has you in the danger zones in what's going on with people that's living that dangerous life? Because if I'm living that dangerous life and I pull up in that danger zone where we're supposed to be going to look for the enemy to do this, and I see them with whoever standing there, like, I'm in that danger zone. And this was, because now you see me and I change my mind. out you were her or him you lucky and I turn off now you shoot me or something what what
Starting point is 00:15:30 you feel me like but that's a different story though so so see y'all is really the first one to pop off with d gains and shit because d gains he's like he been he been moving around for a minute I have a legendary d gains interview for the people out there who want to get educated he's a very important figure in the the drill movement he was the first first on camera master, he made this shit to get hot. He had a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:56 I was pushing that that drive for that for that camera like that he got a brother right now who shoot my videos you feel me like F dot Marley you feel you my boy dot
Starting point is 00:16:07 you feel me EF like he like he like like when the rap scene first started off in the like the games wanted to be a head but he wanted to shoot their video
Starting point is 00:16:19 all right so that's what I'm trying to He, like, one of the starters in this shit, like, you feel? You feel, and, like, for real? Who was really rapping first with the So Icy Boy shit? Like, who was really the first? Buck 20. It was a buck 20 before I was a lot of shit. Yeah, she, buck 20, look.
Starting point is 00:16:36 This before Pac-Man, or, like, what's the time long? Nah, I'll say, um, Pac-Man. Pac-Man, probably like. If I'm mistaken, he, like, the creator of Drew, if I'm mistaken, you feel? You feel? Like, that's what, like. But, look, look, but Buck 20 and shit,
Starting point is 00:16:50 they came right out down. They was, like. Yeah. They, like, like, like, like, like Pac Man had shit,
Starting point is 00:16:56 you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, you're taking nothing from him and shit, but it was a point in time where, like, like, everybody f***ed with them, like,
Starting point is 00:17:05 one of those, like, the enemy was, like, the enemies was all people, it was people we grew up in school, we grew up fighting and shit,
Starting point is 00:17:14 like, on some fighting shit, like, it never turned to no gun shit with them and we're cool with them now. Bro, never, you feel me,
Starting point is 00:17:21 like, the whales and stuff? shit. They never got to know like, are we killing y'all? They're killing us. We're killing. And we're friends now. They were really our, then our enemies growing up back then. We were fighting them, tating them, tay-well, trial them getting jumped and fighting them,
Starting point is 00:17:34 coming to the hood. We're all running over there. We're kids. We're kids in this shit, too. Like, we was out here. That's kind of like a distant memory of simple times when you could just be for somebody and it wasn't that big a deal. Yeah, you don't fight. The most thing y'all going to do is fighting and jump on each other. Walking up to, like, like, all my,
Starting point is 00:17:52 Whether my homies with me or not, like, yeah, I'm the type that's gonna walk up and get on that, but, like, how it is in the hood, like, like, we got like, it ain't no structure, like, to the point where, where you know what's gonna happen if you do this type of shit, I don't know, none of that,
Starting point is 00:18:08 like, we gotta understand, though, like, and it's my brother, I love him, you feel me, like, so I ain't gonna lie, this my real, one of my real close homies, his name, hood, you know, we was back then, in them days, with me and him used to,
Starting point is 00:18:20 like, not like each other so much I walk up on Bronam out of nowhere man what's up man like get this all my chair like we're sitting here scraber scrabbing Scrabbing bro them right here cheering for who they want to win like yeah you whoop him who up him make a whip him whoop him feel me like but then some outsiders or something that ain't from this neighborhood like he he'll see me going through something like I've been getting chased about three four four ns he run up out of nowhere helping me kind of bigger than me me and kind of swore, so niggas be running from him.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Helping me not, like, but me and him don't like each other like that back then. We're a real family, like, but now we can, but now we're just closed. We're super close, but it's an understanding what we're from, like, you feel me, like, we mean, the enemy. Like, we know it's people that don't like us just for being from right here. Okay, but here's a test. I've heard about situations where, like, dudes from Detroit will be out of state. They're in Miami, they're on the club, whatever, and they're kind of like ops,
Starting point is 00:19:21 but then like one of them will get in a situation and their ops will like jump in to like help them in a situation because of the fact that they're so far away from home that it feels like now they got to stay together do you think that that would ever happen with Chicago dudes?
Starting point is 00:19:37 Hell no. Look it's look I got a good answer for that. Y'all know like y'all know like it's look it's as I never met in person that like that would be that with me through like supporting the music on Instagram, maybe like, or like, even DMs is looking at my
Starting point is 00:19:57 story and saying, damn, man, I ain't gonna lie you turn, bro, keep going. And there's people that kind of got a little name and shit, like, now they're cool and shit. But we ain't clicked though with them, none of that shit, I ain't, none of that, we're out of town and I bump it to them type people, yeah, like I see some out of town niggas trying to do some out of town shit on a nigga like, like Rico Reckles or something. We didn't do nothing to show me a little love, you know, like I don't got, I ain't got, I ain't attached to none of his beef, so I'm trying to be into it. But let's say I'm at a, I'm at a casino, feel me?
Starting point is 00:20:27 And he coming to me, all these niggas in there deep, man, they're trying to do this and that. I'm trying to make it out of here. I've been trying to help him get up out. Like, check it out, come on we up, man. You feel me? Like, now, niggas running up on that or something. I'm going to move how I move on from where I'm from.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Stand on how I stand up, you feel me. But I ain't trying to be, see how I ain't trying to take his time on no beefs and like, but he showed love on the end of him. He has a little mutual. And we y'all the way out here, my bad. We y'all away out here, you know? Yeah, I'm probably, but the ops, hell now. You'd be rooting them on or helping out the people
Starting point is 00:21:01 they're getting in the fight with? Like the ops? Like my real enemies? Yeah. And I ain't gonna lie. Look, see, me, I'm keeping real, like, the people who just pose a threat to my life. Like, if it's people out there, I pose a threat to my life. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:21:18 like, and hell now, like, I ain't got, well, I hope they take it as far as to. If I ain't known that myself, I hope they take it far as to leave right here.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I'm going home laughing. Like, damn, that's crazy. That's an underrated feeling when you look at social media and you see somebody you don't like getting beat up. That's an underrated feeling.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Yeah, you feel me? I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch. I've been, he running from a nigger from a beat him up. Like, not the police.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I help him get away from the 12. I hate 12. But I see him running from a big nigga that's trying to punch his head off. I've been to tripped him. Are you going? Are you going? Step aside. Step to the side.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Here you go. Hey, damn. That's happened to him out there. I've seen you all. I've seen Cairo posting him shit. And you mentioned Rico Reco Reckley. Where are you in, where you know Cairo from? No one of Cairo.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Shit, that's broke. That's broke. I think he's like supporting your music off word. He kind of like, found me tired, dude, and shit. But me and him kicking it on that type of level. I don't even know like I don't even think got nothing to do with that because well we're from we don't even be too much on that like I've been told bro like man carroll funny it's it okay I want to fuck with buddy like get around dude I fuck wouldn't be funny but he ain't be we don't really be on that type of time like that too much like so but I think he fuck with me off street like yeah he see him coming because he say like yeah you really keep going boy I like that shit like feeling like and he been bro don't I've been saying like carroll them third like I see how they come just like, bro. How long have you been rapping?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Because I was listening to a lot of the songs today. It seemed like you ain't just start rapping. Like, you actually got skilled with it. Like, it seemed like you actually, you know what I'm saying? Like, putting the time in to perfect being a rapper. Been through some real fucked up shit in my life that put me through the rap, like that started me making songs and shit. When would you say you started, though?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Because like Tay, Tay, he just started rapping. So we all just got familiar with Welchworld recently. and Taye, he kind of knew to rapping. So, like, you was rapping before Tay? Or? Yeah, like. Because Tay, the one told me to do the interview and shit. Yeah, I've been rapping since.
Starting point is 00:23:25 20, like, it's been, like, look, 2012, when I wrote my first, like, I really wrote a song once. I'm, like, yeah, like, that's what I'm doing. And I ain't stopped since. 2012, I was locked up. Yeah, I was 16. They charged me as an adult for a robbery. I was fighting 21 to 45.
Starting point is 00:23:42 I was in an ID home for six months. Then when I turned 17 on my birthday, they sent me to the county. With the adults, you feel me, being that bitch. Fault that case for a little minute. I want you to use it all in Cook County for. I was in County probably like, after that, I was in the county probably like a year.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And end up getting some time. I don't doing eight years at 50% for that, for a robbery and shit. Or, again, I knocked that shit out. The whole time I was doing that, though, I was working on this type of shit, though. I'm getting on the phone with niggas like him.
Starting point is 00:24:15 for my brother they me rapping and shit so you said you started rapping in 2012 like what inspired you like did she keep erer like you seen how he was going up uh like see how ain't a lot I've been doing like done of everything like I'm like
Starting point is 00:24:30 who was football I liked that all everything like being competitive with done and everything so I've been wrote some shit and been rapping and people knew I could rap but me saying like you're a rapper I'm I'm gonna chase that if I when I make it out of it I was in jail like and created that dream from from that pain hang on loud in that
Starting point is 00:24:50 bitch I was in a door doing my thing beating on the door people calling me to myself like calling me to the dough like yeah man I got this many noodles hit that song hit this one song for me you'd be rapping that shit really came out the blue though like you feel me he surprised us with that when I came home they ain't even know I was like that they just got that rapping shit was just like a bad ass kid for real life like you feel me and then he got You feel, me. Some real rap shit, like, you feel it? Oh, yeah, damn.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It's surprised us. So you put on some shit, you feel, me. Oh, damn, this shit, raw, I see. Why, you ain't been? Let us know you'd be on this type of shit. Like, he just wanted to tell a rap to hood, that shit. Like, you feel, me? Did you feel like there was no main rapper from your area before you came out?
Starting point is 00:25:36 Or who was representing before that? Tom Arley, you feel, me, right? In game, my boy, Doc. He, look, he, see, see, when I'm from, is all the people that went to, you know, that went to the school we went to and created the bonds like brothers living in the slums, how we did, and shit, like, on some family shit.
Starting point is 00:25:56 It's like, brought them on 40-third estate, then it's us on our squad, you feel me? And F dot, and the buck to me, brick boys, that's what, that's what they, like, that's what that came from me, from me. He, like, he was like, they're gonna say they top rapper, cause chop a chopper the goon,
Starting point is 00:26:14 He had his, like, he was like the hottest one to me to a lot of people. But Doc got that Jay-Z, Nause type, real bars. If you would listen, anybody listen. Like, sit back and listen. You want to be like, dan, this, nigga. Fuck. He ain't, like, he, somewhere. But he fell in love with photography and both do videos for me on the side of photography.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Like, but he, you feel, professional photographer. He fell in love with that. He still wrapped up. Like, still got, like, every beatie here, like, that Dilo, that boss man Dilo. Now, a lot of people remixing it. I remix, they just drop something to it. He got something to that.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It's cool. You feel me? Like, he, but he, nobody fucking with your shit, though. He got the best version of it. Yeah. F dot,
Starting point is 00:27:02 Efto's like, he was, look, Buck 20 was brick, but was big at one point. Yeah. Feel me, like. And who was considered the Buck 20 boys? Like, who was all rapping? It was F dot.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You feel me. One of the guys named Jake Chris right now, you feel me, he's slightly weight. He's my producer right now, he too, he, for me. He got beats, like, he, he get wild with the beats, you know what the beats, you feel me, Jay Chris, you know, and being up black, you feel me, and chop of the gun.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, because that's what I was about to ask you. I was about to say, y'all leaving no billionaire from the rappers from that area. Yeah, but he wanted to be one, he wasn't better than, than, than. Nah, he just said names. Like, not even saying, like, who was better for real. It's just like, like, like, back then,
Starting point is 00:27:44 Dot was like the lead rapper. He was the rap nigga. Like, that was the rap nigga. Like, that was the street. Look, we all,
Starting point is 00:27:52 yeah, and it wasn't a competition. It's just, this is what we were set up like, like, like, like, the rap nigga for real.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Chopper was the turnt up, got the all the holes, all, you feel any, type nigga. Jay Chris was the, he, low key, low key,
Starting point is 00:28:05 you feel me? Yeah. You feel me? Being that was a flashy, like, kind of big, tough guy, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Because he wasn't always no little little, like, you feel me? kind of, Now he back big now, but his eyes was getting, like, little. And, like, he big as hell right now. Like, but back then he was that big, like, he is not and shit, like, feeling like, goon and shit, like, but, but that's how I was set.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You feel what, that was the order of it. And that was, they had a, like, I ain't mistaken. I ain't trying to, like, start no bullshit or nothing, but they had some type of deal shit going on, like, if they ain't mistaken. And I think it was, like, because of that type shit. Like, not saying, bro, no week or nothing. I'm just saying that offer that I heard about I thought it was like if I ain't mistaken
Starting point is 00:28:46 some shit like damn dude you something wild like and he was from all yeah we all from the go they were from to go crazy but he caught a gun case went to jail sat there for too long time went back shit started happening like Chief Keith because this was before Chief Keep
Starting point is 00:29:05 this like yeah this was like not even before Chief Keith but before all this crazy like then this big Ikeith iconic shit, you know. Who's calling? The originals? Man.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I don't know. That's a fun for him. That's billionaire? Nah, yeah. Man. You're how fascinated with Billion. Yeah, what's what I got up back? I fuck with being there.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Billion they're one of the ones, like, the originators are like, when it come to the drill, they look at him, Pac-Man, Doug, Chi-Kee-Kee-Kee-F, like, for a lot. That's where he was at, though, with Dodding him, and his position that he played, like, And he was cool. We was cool. They wanted no measuring like, oh, he goofy or nothing, like, because black was one of them fighters, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Black was one of them, like, why they're in school. I'm fucking in school. They fight in the whales. And he wanted the people that get, wow, you feel me? Like, you know, goot. I ain't saying dude, the bitch-ass, nigga, nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:03 He, he wanted up. It was back then. Like, when we were speaking, if you asked about your question, like, what was I? Back then, I was right there. He was one of them type of, you feel me? I argue with him a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I mean, when I was in short. Like, at one point we was cool. Like, we ended up getting cool after the, we was shorty. When I was young, though, he ain't, bro. Me and bro, ain't never Italian. Like, his little brother, though, Millie, it's like one of my best friends. Like, it's a circle of us, like, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:30:32 and he with our circle or, like, how we be, like, every day check on the guys, like, something happened to somebody in the hood or something. Like, we heard, some shooting shit happened on the block somewhere, something we heard. Like, are we calling this? need certain people, like not certain people, but like, and people you get to worry about instantly,
Starting point is 00:30:49 you get to call around. Yeah. It's our circle, like, his little brother, one of them. Like, so it's like, it's super controversial when I, I mean him. No, because I'd be arguing on line and shit, like, what should I lay shit right now? Cause that's like brotherly love, though.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Like, that's all like a family type shit. Like, you feel like? I mean, like, I respect for his mama. You feel me? His mama and his daddy and his brother. His brother's all in for real, like, because all them, like, Even his cousin, Missy, I have respect for all them, everybody, like,
Starting point is 00:31:19 I don't know them, them EG guys, like, I don't give a fuck about dude. And I'm, like, feel me, all of them, these, them other, I ain't say no nigg's names, and I'm like, but all them other, I don't know them niggins, I don't care. But they family, like, I ain't, just for them, I ain't, I don't speak too ill about dude, you. I'm gonna just leave that shit out of feeling what it is, what it is, what it is, it ain't, no light.
Starting point is 00:31:42 We fell out in. shit he got on the internet got the gun on this thing me too you feel me but if y'all was saying some crazy shit yeah it was like that but some real shit though it's like a relationship with y'all too y'all got you all got to you all built the relationship right yeah so if he decided to fire you y'all gonna have y'all gonna have real words right yeah that's how that shit is with them like it's just like you feel me it just like a lot of anger and emotion missed in that real shit like like look But he was saying some crazy shit. He had a lot of crazy shit to say.
Starting point is 00:32:17 He said that Tate Savage popped you and that you was a backdoor-ass nigga. Yeah, for us, no. You put that shit out on YouTube, all the type of shit. I'm like, what the fuck? That's a serious accusation these days. Yeah. And then you're going to say friends and Tate's at this interview up.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So I'm like, how Tate popped? This ain't going to look. And what I'm going to say can't get T's trouble or none because the truth is he cap, man. But look, let me just say this. How do you feel about this fact I'm put in front of you guys? I for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, tell you a good guy, what he's been doing wrong in y'all ass. The music might sound like what we come from, but like I said, you know, that box we tell him how we lived in. We just own that. Like, we rap about that, like, how we grew up. It's like that in that box, man. Like, we grew up in and I was talking about it. So his music going to sound like that.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I know he's transitioning because I've been hearing some unreleased y'all got to get to him. He got some shit, and it's going to get different than that. Like, it's getting way different. With me, too, you got, y'all got to listen. But on some real shit, like, He's a good guy, right? Yeah, I'll follow it. Fuck with Taye, right?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah, but we first kind of realized that he might not be serious about the push and peace movement when we heard the song that you guys did together. Remember we read the quotes to Jay May? And he was like very, he was like fake mad. And I'm gonna speak, I'm gonna say this. I feel like that's why me and Jay Man
Starting point is 00:33:31 ain't kind of like dead and I know. You don't see me kicking in with him and him kicking with me. I'm like, we might kick you here. He thinks you're not serious about pushing peace. He, no, look, see him. I don't guess, like, look, I know it's people that like. Let me say this. I know his people probably don't like my purpose.
Starting point is 00:33:43 on the peace thing like like Taze. Taze is literally like he'd be in my ill. Like yeah if y'all hear our personal conversations, it's like, it's a lot of chest ties like shit like this big bro. He'd be on some, man, I ain't gonna lie. Like, I know yelling like we know, I'm me, ain't nobody doing that. It's like, just big bro saying like, man,
Starting point is 00:34:03 life a game of chess and this is what I feel about these moves you can be making. You feel like like me like, and I'll be brushing up on it like, man, he'd probably write like, you feel like, the type like I ain't gonna let me send my I ain't gonna send myself all even for him let me send myself all like he he hit me and let me know if I'm if I'm moving wrong about something like like he he be in my ear a lot about how I do but
Starting point is 00:34:27 this my I'm just give you my understanding like you gonna take it or say you don't fuck with me or whatever it is like my understanding is this like we push in peace but man you ain't from the tear me it ain't people that say fuck that and still trying to if they see me in public blast me down For them people, boy, I was raised for this shit. You feel me? I was in that little box. It was treacherous.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He calling his cousin Puna to come fight me. I'm smaller than Puna. Puna to come fight me. I'm a shorty. I'm a shorty. Put the gloves on. This big nigga kinda getting up with me, but, ah, Camille, I ain't hitting the floor. I'm gonna handle this business.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Now, when, when, when, later on, we walking up the street and it's like seven, eight guys, and it's about four of us, young guys, and he wouldn't He was, we getting attacked, but it's going down. We're whipping him. Like, we're going through, I'm going home, black-ass, big mouse and shit. My mom and I'm like, what the fuck is happening around these bitch? Like, not letting me come outside some days. I'm sneaking out.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I got to get around. Like, this is my brother's, like, they out here. Yeah. Feel me? Like, it's what's going on. So, billionaire was just lying when he just said that shit. Yeah, man, man, you just think of, look, this is what I was trying to say. Before you said what you said, tell you a good guy.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Yeah. Why would you say something? Like, damn, you know, that man just did 10 years, right? Yeah, like, now look, that's not true, but in the streets, fuck what we believe in all that.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Let's stay in the streets. If something like that happened, right? What the fuck? He don't have to take. You don't need to speak on shit like that. Look at them all, like, look. They hang up. I don't know if they're like what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:36:04 but look at them kicking it like they kicking it. Like, Tateau, why y'all don't think he'd be in some piece of shit? Because let that would have been me. You getting on the internet saying some shit like that about me, boy, what the hell? True or false. Well, I can go to... What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:36:19 You're trying to send me to jail or something? Like, I'm on parole. Jay Main doing skits. I ain't did nothing. Jay Man doing skits with Tay Savage is... What is true or not? I'm telling you that's not true, though. But coming from like you, I'm saying you.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You like Tay, right? Yeah, I follow. Ask that question to Black. If you like Tay then, like, damn, why would you even put Tay in that position then, like, though? Even if you're all beefing or whatever, how would you say some shit like that, though?
Starting point is 00:36:41 That point at what dude's saying about you about you being a rat and telling this shit. What, what, what, everybody in that room? Man,
Starting point is 00:36:49 I ain't supposed to be doing that shit. I ain't, I ain't even don't talk about that. But, like, Jay Main has, that part of this shit.
Starting point is 00:36:54 He's made it clear that he understands that Tay is the savage one in their dynamic, right? Like, he's, he acknowledges that
Starting point is 00:37:04 Tay could do whatever he wanted to him and he's going to basically, he's the one who basically said, like, I would rather be cool with you. Hey, and make skits. It's because,
Starting point is 00:37:14 it's because, like, I ain't saying J-main, no, no, no, no pussy, none of that type of shit. Like, he's on some, like, telling the truth shit, though. Like, he, Tay B, Tate the type of person he grew up, he grew up ass, like, it is what it is. Like, he went through what he went through in life, like on some surviving shit, like, just think about it, like, you feel me? Take, Tay had a few, it was, it was four people. I ain't going to say their names and be blasting people to, us make them those targets for people that don't like niggas and all that type of shit.
Starting point is 00:37:46 It was four of them. One of them dead. It's Welch. Why the fuck? Where is all this, like, hate coming from from dude? And, you know, like, all the, you know, he survived some shit going on. Like, you know, like, people get to trying to take life stay. His homie die.
Starting point is 00:38:01 First he gets shot and then his homie dead while he laid up shot someone. Like, you feel me? And dude went to jail. He, and was innocent for some shit. Like, whether y'all believe he a savage killer and all that, all that weird shit. He beat the cases. So what child got it, like, see is like, dude, don't know what he's on.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like, you know, like, he beat them charges because, you know, we, we, you know. That's the, that's the facts that we stand up behind and shit. Like, you know, like, dude, the good person and shit, what he putting out here is where he put, like, like, all these narratives coming from people opinions. Like, J-Man has his opinion. But if you ask me,
Starting point is 00:38:46 It ain't because he seen take kill no one. Because he didn't. He didn't see Tate through no savagery, shit, like no killings, killing. Blas and all mama. Like how he said that? That's the main thing he'd be saying. He beat that case. And then, like, when people do shit, like, try to cause harm or say something wild about Welch,
Starting point is 00:39:05 shit. Them the people that don't chase the, that's on something like, fuck the piece. So it's going to end up what it be. But then when they try to attack, right? Yeah. So my fuck. Like us, we grew up in the box. We're gonna be prepared for that type of goofy shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:23 So how y'all feel when y'all see, like, a Trapp Lord Ross documentary, breaking down, Welch World and all y'all shit? Like, y'all watch shit like that? Like, I already know y'all you've seen him was stripped out. You watch shit like that, like, you feel, me? Because, shit, how the fuck he'd get on that information that he got, yeah? You feel me? So it was, like, you feel it?
Starting point is 00:39:42 You feel? You know how that shit go? Like. What was your thoughts on it? He a fan, right? Like, let's keep real. He a fan of Tay, right? Hey. Like, he ain't, I believe he said, like,
Starting point is 00:39:54 I didn't know of, like, I ain't trying to get nobody in trouble with nothing. Like, like, I really fuck with Tay. I like, Tay. Like, I'm doing this because, like, he's just a cool story, a cool guy. Like, he's speculating on what he thinks and what he feels about some shit he read on the internet.
Starting point is 00:40:12 It's, like, he ain't personally did nothing to know, nothing wrong with none. To me, it's like, I've seen old Facebook posts I made out there. Yeah. I'll tell your shit, but I was like 12, 13. You feel me? I'm like, I said, I forgot. There's a lot of little messages, little shit I put up until I was tweaking and shit.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Like, being goofy on the internet. And he used that shit in his story. And back then, look, back then, growing up, like him and my brother, best friends. They in the streets doing what they doing. His little cousins and shit. I'm in the streets with them and shit, like, we ain't in the house, like, we're right here in our square and out of the, in the, like, the outer circle of our square,
Starting point is 00:40:57 growing up in this shit, too, like, well, take woman and being the type of person there, why are you thinking, whatever this shit is, whatever, like, we grew up right here all together in that shit, like, you feel me, like. So I, like, I know, like, you feel me, I know every, every, like, the ends and outs of the whole, what child believes and what child should, know it's true and all that.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Like, but the facts is, beating them charges, coming home, taking care of his people, linking up with people who y'all would consider the ops saying, hey, what the hell is all the killing about? What they're talking about on the internet? Let's not do that here. Let's talk about some shit like this on this internet
Starting point is 00:41:38 and off this internet, they show them that we really ain't no monsters and shit, like that's all he did in front of his camera. But when, when Tate, does that song with you and he puts, uh, what's the rockhead and fat head in, in his verse. Do you look at that like he doesn't feel like he can really get attention as a rapper unless he's dissing his ops by name? Or do you look at it as that's just really what his soul wants to do? I don't look at it like, he ain't perfect for you, and when a person you got a,
Starting point is 00:42:09 like, it's a video or a tail on the camera with his cousin. Look, our brother, little dude that just died. and somebody asked like who are you he I'm the manager you feel me he just recently died and you got kiddo no me I ain't go sit back and act like we don't know what's happening around you know you got kiddo on here saying a lot of like laughing ha ha shit about it you feel me like take you feel me he I wrote what I wrote about that song he went crazy I did like you know I've been wrote a few this song myself you feel me like he was staying away from that. Like, if you go look back,
Starting point is 00:42:49 I got a lot of, like, someone saying, like, this man got out of jail doing this and um, we're talking like that and, like, we're dishing each other for real and dissing him. And she's saying, little shit. Feeling like, tape's staying out of that.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But there ain't nobody perfect. There ain't nobody perfect. He took a couple of losses, defts, close friends since he'd been home. And real close ones, like his brother. A, rap, rest of peace. Ah, brother. A rap.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Like, they was neck. They was, like, when we was growing up in that era, they was close to jail, too. Like, he brought, like, that's his real, but he died first. Like, soon as bro got out, man, around, like, this, this happened soon. Then, now that. And you're on the internet trolling, and it's everywhere. Everybody's seeing you doing it, and it's, like, not trolling like you did it or nothing, but I ain't go incriminate nobody, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:43:43 but I'm saying like just this because you don't like a person saying something like fuck a person and all that. Goofy responding on some angry shit if you asked me. You was locked over with kiddo because I seen you had a whole bunch of shit
Starting point is 00:43:56 to say about when y'all was in jail together. Yeah, man, that's that. What was y'all experience? Yeah, what was y'all experiencing like in jail? And you were saying some shit I'm like ain't no way kiddo making your noodles and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah, I forgot about that part. Because I don't believe that. Kido or he... You said you're extorting him for news. I was telling you about my homie that's close to me. me like that I used to walk up like we had someone on our chest we always had to get it off like just fighting out of nowhere his name hub his name hub he me he was he was uh me and him was
Starting point is 00:44:29 locked up together like we from our hood grew up like this in this neighborhood and end up catch a cases run the same time we was locked up in the county together 17 year olds they all in we all in green jumpsuits because they changed the law like you got to be 18 and go to the county but we was the 17 year old kids that was already in there this shit. So they're just putting us all over here. Kiddle the same age, you feel me? Like, this shit, document it.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Like, this shit, this shit, like, you can look. It's shit that, it's, look, I ain't gonna do that because I ain't no twill-ass-nigger, but it's shit that I remember happening on our deck, that shit that got caught back to you, that I could talk to you about, and they could probably see this and look this up. See this, look this up, and be like, damn, he ain't lying. This person caught a ticket for that. that and call the ticket for that. So you're going to find all the footage and all that.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And I can point out shit in you a C kiddo doing shit for me like doing like you feel me certain like certain situations I can speak upon. I can show like us being right there with each other and shit going on like and how he acted in a situation like the deck could go up. I was on if his videos you can find of a deck going up. When I was on 17, yo when I was 17 period because we was all over there. Any deck that went up on my shit they got 10-10 if you can look that up. You would see how he react when it comes to like, oh yeah, how we, like he done it was like a soldier, man, in real life.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Like, you know, we was friends, so we cool. When he came to my dough, like when he first came, a nigga named Big Nas was like, I had a nigga kiddo coming over here too, bro. Like, I don't know how to get the fuck out of hell, you, feel? Put Nas in the cell. And he'd come on the deck and come to my door too. He, oh, yeah, that's funky.
Starting point is 00:46:15 You what's up? Like, my nickname from. When we were shorties in the war shit, you know, all this shit going on. Like, a nigga, knew me by that. That's my childhood name, Funky. Like, he coming with that bitch. Oh, that's funky.
Starting point is 00:46:28 What's up, buddy? Whoa, I'm not. And, like, anybody that know me personally, know my, like, my persona, like, like, they just know what I'm on. Like, I ain't saying, like, I'm just that. I'll probably get my ass, well.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Keep it real, I probably lost. I probably el lose. a fight I probably lost a fight but I beat ass nah I'll be the one aggressive in initiating that situation I be in like ain't nobody ever pressing me it be me like pressing situations when I'm in situations like that like that like me so you and a kiddo jes y'all was locked and when y'all was locked up y'all was friends though that's what you basically saying uh no it was like it was like a intern it was like a man any day any any any day he could like like
Starting point is 00:47:18 step wrong or like we could get the wrong call like not only you don't know like somebody got to kill shit but like it's an agreement going on that stopping you from getting fucked up and you know this like so y'all was beefing while I was in jail yeah like when I look when he first come to my dough
Starting point is 00:47:33 I'm ah yeah like because me I'm at the door I'm ah yeah feel like what you're on like because the only way out now is to do some whole shit and say I'm gonna go to the deck and tell you see oh oh I don't want to be over here that's the only way out this situation and if you do that if you stop plan like I did that the one of the hours if that happened if that happened it's like yeah you you did that
Starting point is 00:47:53 brodie like his bitch ass like and his homie them gonna treat him probably too you feel me like your name's fucked up for life if you do that yeah that's not not like fucked up for life but it's like you got whole better ups like we gonna I'm gonna feel some way to you like you my brother you I'm a damn why you ain't staying firm and them and them boys that's trying to kill us because we we do aggressors like when it come to like fighting and all that tough ass shit people trying to do in jail. I ain't no person from where I'm from. Fend to let you push them, man.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Big or small, man. Shout out my brother, Millie. He's supposed to be here. Being that black little brother, man. He, he like this tall, bro. He like this tall, man. He's the toughest one out of all us, bro. That's being a black one.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, man. He's the toughest one out of all us, man. You say something wrong to me and him, man. I ain't got to say, like, he ain't no sin off or nothing. This is our type of relationship. Like, let's say you smack the shit out of me. Like, no disrespect. you and you smack this shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I can sit here like a hole and be like, hey what the fuck? His reaction ain't gonna be that, or my brother reaction ain't gonna be that. Like, Millie, the type, the one gonna be the one tweaking bad. Like, he, he's a tweaker. Like, you feel me? Like, he'll, he'll be tweaking. He'll tweaker. But he, before Millie would stop something, like,
Starting point is 00:49:09 no, no, no, wait, wait, man, look, that's chill, this thing. Millie be the one to win. But he's the smallest one. With a gun, without a gun, with a weapon, without a weapon. He's the type to get the wilder. It's weird how the hands matter so much behind bars and then don't really matter at all in the streets, right? Man, look, it do.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Because, like, look. Because there are fights that happen. It just doesn't get attention. Look, niggas that go through that, like what kid I went through? They ain't going to open up out that. Like, you feel me? Like, look, if you get caught rear-hand,
Starting point is 00:49:40 and, like, you know, a lot of people seen it, like, because I got, it's a lot of people who know this. Like, that's why I brought up my home. He was locked up with us. He was there for every little, Every moment of that. Yeah. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Like, these people would step up here with their face, not care about no danger and say, hey, I saw him take you to the bathroom with a person and make you fight that person for him. Like, man, you're too little. But hold on. Come here, kiddo, man. I can fly this, okay, no.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you resent the way that... Just want to see what's going to happen. And kiddo ain't want to fight. Like, shit like that happening. Like, you know... You resent the way that he's been talking to Tain and shit? Like, or just the whole overall...
Starting point is 00:50:17 overall vibe? Like, were you surprised that he came out rapping with that vibe of being, like, super aggressive? Look, when I'm from, we despise goofy shit. Like, I'd be doing goofy shit, and people like him be, like, the main person try to try to say something about it. Like, him. There's my brother, though, like, he- Because a lot of rapper shit qualifies as goofy shit, right? The shit, he, like, look, feel me? This and somebody you don't even know, not Welch, but tell you all together, like,
Starting point is 00:50:42 chasing, like, you get out of jail and the situation in the world you choose to try to beef with, And show the world you beefing with it tastes as whatever. Wow, like you don't even know that guy. You never been in an altercation with him personally. In jail or out of jail, you never met him or talked to him or nothing. And then I have beef, like the beef that everybody's seeing with them, he ain't did nothing to us. Like, you ain't, like, you ain't got nothing.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like, you ain't got no type of, but when we was in jail, Man, it was so, it was ugly for him. Like, it was some real shit. Like, I ain't just saying, I ain't just saying that, like, I want to fuck up. It was ways to make the money in jail. You ain't got people sending you money. I weren't fucked up, but a lot of meals came out of his box. What's high with meals, though?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Kiddo? Fish. Look, look, I could call somebody right now to explain what kind of meal we ate at his box. Like, like, not on no, like, oh, let us, can we get, can we have this? or alone me this or none of that it was a come to the door and I was more than just no one. I was angry on where I felt like a bitch
Starting point is 00:51:53 I feel like a pussy myself but look we get on the phone brodom and they're saying like whatever he said to me that made me sit back like I can't brutalize you over here but it's got to be bad for this
Starting point is 00:52:07 goofazzing over here you feel me like I can't brutalize you you feel me because it's gonna do what what bro them don't want to do on the streets right now they're on some other shit. I gotta be a certain way for the clan, like for the family. Like they ask him to chill on him.
Starting point is 00:52:23 All right. But in ways he's he for that, man. Just think about it. If you don't like this person, you gotta be stuck with him, though. Like, I ain't got to be stuck with you. I can make you move around, but that box four, though.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Some people love him. Survival. I'm welch. I'm coming to the door. If I'm lying, I'm down, it's aggression. It's not nothing you would like or you would welcome. it's nothing you would welcome like I'm a child like and he know me everybody out there know me explain what type of person I am it's what type of person I am like I'm
Starting point is 00:52:53 come to his dope I'm at the bottom chuck my homie my homie that's women he's telling me not to be on this because on top of them telling us not to be on this we all got together we all got we all got to remember they were kids they were kids at this time I was you was 17 at that time oh y'all back in a day this this really this this is this is your own math and I just show you that did 10 years I'm How much time did he? That's when he did 10. I was, this, this, we was locked up together for this.
Starting point is 00:53:20 My kid, I was facing to 21 myself, 21 to 45 myself. The victim on my case came and said that they didn't want to see me get smacked. His brother had my same judge, and they gave him 21 years on his robbery. Man, the victim was a 81-year-old veteran, and it was something. He came and sat in the courtroom in front of my parents and the judge saying, like, hey, that got me the deal that I got. Like, it was some discipline for a kid type shit, because I'm 17. I got some shit like
Starting point is 00:53:46 Okay, you go do this much time In this facility that's rough If you fuck up here You gotta do this bigger amount of time I went that fucked up Turned like I turned some some little shit Into eight years
Starting point is 00:53:59 Four months And setting that my phone Yeah I'm so sorry about that ain't Then I didn't want to say it Uh Kiddo was the only op on your deck Oh years it took
Starting point is 00:54:06 Or yeah like a whole bunch of hours Yeah he the only Every time anybody else came around me there T we get like I like that with them It was fun to go down You know what he got saved by? Phone call, man. Because look, I'm in the cell.
Starting point is 00:54:19 While I'm locked down, they bring it like 20, they bring like 10 bucks on at a time. I'm the first wave of the niggas come on this bitch. Now I'm at the bottom deck on. Oh, yeah, seeing that why he coming through this bitch? Now, when he come in the way, it was another nigga that I knew from the streets came on the way.
Starting point is 00:54:33 My homie came on the way. Then his way he comes. And it's him. Oh, first nigga he talked to. It's me like, yeah, hey, boy. Ha ha, man, the dog like this shit. crazy, got me you want. I'm like, I'm like, you know what the fuck going on?
Starting point is 00:54:47 Like, I'm the fuck going on. Like, I was in the streets for real. Like, before this jail shit, I was just out there, boy. Like, anything you felt like you did or, you know, people's did it something? Like, I was in the street saying, if you feel like we, like, come on now. Like, I ain't no new nigga or nothing. So when I seen him, boy, your ass, he the one made me, told me to call him. He, boy, he says, wow shit. His homie name, Festerest, that's past.
Starting point is 00:55:12 and all whom he named Walsh that's back. Hey man, you got to call home, boy. There's been some fast world world of welch where a shit going on, boy. Like saying like we cool. I call home on Tate, man. This nigga said that he, nah, nah, nah, look, we know, we don't do our,
Starting point is 00:55:27 that shit dead. Hey, but it is it, it is like a little pause going on because we're trying to, like what he's doing right now. It was some shit like this. I can't really explain, like, had Tate be coming. But back then he was doing something like this. It stopped a lot of beef. It ain't had people like me.
Starting point is 00:55:42 jail, thinking I'm not getting out, getting jail tattoos, thinking I ain't getting out of jail, thinking I'm 21 to 45 on the case. Victim came in up. Yes, this is him. Put a gun in my head said, give me the kids, take it. Now I'm fighting all this time, thinking I'm not getting out. You think I, look at me. And then look at him.
Starting point is 00:56:00 How big you think he is compared to this? No weird shit. Like, I ain't knew. And none of them a real beast compared to that little boy. So when I ran it to him, all that I had in me that hurt, that I was rapping about making The song was about at the time. Well, I'll fuck that piece of paper. It was fun to happen to him.
Starting point is 00:56:16 But he said that. They locked him up. I came out of him. I'm going to get on the phone. Let him know that he's going to go down. He's going to happen to him right quick. Call my brother on A. Wayne. Yeah, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:27 It's going to happen. Hey, hold on. Taylor and holl at you. Taylor said what he said. I'm, I go to his dog. And the first thing I say is, like, look, I just said this to you.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Let's ask you. I just said, yeah, Rimo, What? Don't try to act cool. Wop your ass when I come out. I go get on the phone. I'm loud as hell on the deck. I'm a loud-ass, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Like, I'm a loud-ass, nigga. You see how I'm acting right now? I'm one of them. I got a, I'm mental a bit. You feel me? Like, you feel me? I ain't just all regular and shit. So I was geeked.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm, yeah. I'm on the phone. A man, boy. Got me, look, I know you wish you could catch you one right now, but guess what? I don't know what this boy. A man, it's a little one. Can he are out here, look, I don't care if he be big, some little small, you claiming that you want to bring harm to the life that I love.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Man, you want to kill him and shit. I don't care that you 10 feet tall with this. Look, you 10 feet with a gun, trying to kill him. I'm trying to protect my brother. You four feet with a gun. Let me catch you without that gun, and you four feet. It's like kiddo. Just imagine.
Starting point is 00:57:40 There ain't nobody going to go against what I'm saying when they come to have. I am. So Tate stopped, John, from fighting and shit? Yeah, he stopped me from, man, there was a lot of time on the thing.
Starting point is 00:57:50 My first, that was, that was like six months in my bed. So I already got, like, some crazy offers and shit. The first offer was 21.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I'm slow. I ain't gonna lie. I'm fucked up in my head. My homies to tell you. The first offer was 21. The second was 26. Now I'm like, man,
Starting point is 00:58:06 they're gonna go down. They went up again. And somebody told me, like, man, if they keep going up, Shorty, take something because you're going,
Starting point is 00:58:14 they're going to keep going, up on you and crack you like you feel me they came to 32 and then it's when he'd come over here we just interviewed uh t t b nes and 757 uh big VA and then I think uh he said that it's cool for niggas that like switch decks and shit if you just tell the uh correctional officer and shit that you're ops on that deck that you yeah look ain't go lie and they said it ain't look down upon though no look see it's certain ways to do this type of shit though like you know like you see yourself like like I don't know like I ain't been in a situation where I come on the deck and see a lot of niggas from the ground on me and I'm damn ACO
Starting point is 00:58:51 they trying to beat my ass I ain't never been in that situation before like how that look though like for real though like because that's how they really be going I've been on the other side of the glass when when when niggas like come over here and really like all we're feeling because you see us right here we're in the sales if we're in the sales you come over here you don't know who over here now they put you in their cell. Now they let us all out. You over here with 10 of your ops. It happened like that. But sometimes it'd be like we all out in the day room. You coming
Starting point is 00:59:21 on the back week. But as you walking up, we see you from a distance coming. We all shit. No policy over here? Or it's two of us over here. Oh, we're feeling... We got him coming, scud. Yeah. We're going to get him straight. Now, he's seeing all this. And he... Man, you don't see them... Yeah, no, they're not going to kill me. I know him. I know him.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And him, they're going... Soon as I'm going... on the deck's gonna be a fight y'all can't put me over him. The CEO is gonna be human. Like, fuck the book and all that. They're human. They're not gonna just put you over that now. Now you're going in the cell. You know you just say it yourself.
Starting point is 00:59:54 A lot of people ain't go frowned or punny because who want to get their ass with. But, man, I got rolled in the county. Me. And I ain't ducking that. I ain't ducking that. They gave me a chance to go. They gave me a chance to leave. I mean, my son.
Starting point is 01:00:06 When I come over there, I'm talking to a few niggas. It was like two in the morning. Coming from Stateville, penitentiary, like doing some hard time. Like some 24-hour lockdown. The shower will come to you, the phone. Like, you go to the shower one time. Like, you walk around the corner to the shower, one week, but in a, like, in one shower week.
Starting point is 01:00:27 But one of them, you would go to, like, right up under your cell. So it's literally you lock, you. And when you're going to shower, you locked in. You know, walking around. That's the only outside you get. I was fucked up, bad, and come to the county. I'm super aggressive from work. and out and they're like,
Starting point is 01:00:44 I'm doing this push up this shit. Come to the dough, these niggas. They woke, it's one in the morning. Oh man, who's from over here from the low end? I'm that type of guy. Like, I know what it is already. Like, I ain't even to come over here hoping it ain't nothing. I'm fin of find it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 It's jail. And I'm fighting, it's jail. It gotta be that in here. Or you're gonna get eight up. Yeah, I'm coming aggressive with it. Like, now I don't know. I'm tough as how tough as whoop anybody at. No, I'm coming straight on some.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I ain't no disrespect my bra. You know some niggas over here from the low end? Ain't nobody who over here? I ain't nobody from the low end over. You don't know about the low. No disrespect, my brother. You ain't my enemies. You're good, noodle or something.
Starting point is 01:01:27 To the next nigga, like, you. Like, somebody let me know what it is. I know you, and we good from the low end? I'll lock in what you might look out for you. You're an enemy. Let you be over here like four, five deep with some niggas that's cool with you. I'm gonna try to, and that's why I haven't.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Damn. I ain't ducking it, though. I went in my cell. They told me when nobody over there, I go on my cell. The enemy, niggas, just him that know me. It's four people he's been over here being with, though. That's cool with him going to help him, not. Not even my enemies, but...
Starting point is 01:01:59 So it'd be like that. I know this already. But he sent somebody to worker on a deck, like these niggas pussy. Me and bro, them would have sat quiet. I would have sent a piece of paper for the worker to my homie. I'm like, hey, we got us one. Don't front that move. He come out, just attack him, gang.
Starting point is 01:02:15 We're gonna break some legs. We're gonna break something before 12 get over here. He sent the man over there to say, man, look, bro. Look, bro. They saying you wanna just tell it to it. Bro said, bro, he in this cell right here. His name, woo, he from 7.5. He said, man, you wanna just tell Twil, you wanna leave?
Starting point is 01:02:35 Because we can leave it in the streets, and I'm the tight coming out that bitch. Nah, I'm straight. Hell now I'm straight, dude, ch'all got to do, boy. I don't know these other nays. I'm attacking you though when I come out like by myself I'm on what I'm on
Starting point is 01:02:49 trying to hurt my pee, you're trying to hurt me I know what it is with you like I know the survival I know them instincts when I was in shorty used to be punching up on me and shit all like I gotta got tough niggas like him and my big brother they best friend same mom and daddy
Starting point is 01:03:01 they're best friend they're punching on me so I was in shorty got tough What's your relationship with all TZV Nazz I've seen like a video y'all on live and shit just kicking in and shit His ass
Starting point is 01:03:10 Like growing up and shit Like the neighborhood he used to be in and shit they was like people we used to go fighting shit type shit like from hanging with niggas like zooten from THF folks say shit don't you feel like shit like we was real tight with them at one point and that was like some niggas that didn't like them and that's that's the type of shit kind of failed place like that for real low key like one no really no people doing them too much like there was a lot of static from like like like
Starting point is 01:03:44 like being like like like we was talking out earlier like like like like we was talking out earlier like Like, if you hang it with a motherfucker and know they got shit going on. Yeah. And you're in the zone where this shit happened at. Now they come through and it happen. Why are you right here? It's going to make you want to do some shit to them. Now you're claiming these old enemies.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Which is, which you should. It's what it is. You know, like, that's the type of shit having, like, anybody. Oh, I feel it. You know? Like, but him, though, and I'm not saying this to this. And I'm putting this on all of my dead homies in front of one of my homies. in front of one of my homies that's alive.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Most niggas from where I'm from that I know and been raised with don't know, do I remember him from the streets. Like, the reason there is any, no, like, static with that neighborhood, like, some tragic shit having one day on some, on some broding them on their way
Starting point is 01:04:38 to the beach shit. Scared the nigga, and the nigga did some whole shit. Feel me like my homie died. But him. That was a fuck. Back then, back then. we don't got no recollection of nests and that's why we even in the tour with
Starting point is 01:04:53 and they're like, like, niggas don't like us because they only went to jail for it. Got out, there's a little time, he got out, fit me? And they, like, they don't like us and there's little shit like that. But y'all bing just beefing on young money and shit
Starting point is 01:05:08 from way back, like tight shit, from, like, grandma's school. Like, growing up, us and the sixth, us and the four sixth, that's growing up, they, like, like his cousin, For me, rest of peace, T.P. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:05:21 Like, TP from the 6th, rest of the piece, that was bro to me, too. But this bro, bro, blood, family, too. Rest of peace, we have a connection like that. You feel like, it ain't no gang bang going on here, you feel me? Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, everybody got that going on. And that's why, like, because look, they right around the corner, and this is his cousin. He come over here, and not me.
Starting point is 01:05:44 I'm the type that ain't gonna lie here to tell you. I'm the type that run off our friends, though. like you only from over here you come over here with him I'm on some man who was him man I can goofy you with him and shit being lame and shit I'm playing I was a shorthy they got to correct me and shit but TP was one of them people like I come over here I can goof me and shit he I can goof you with me and this bro like this bro like feel me like he one of us like he cool and it's his family feel me like and they build bonds with people like them they might not like them yeah so now they're coming over here looking for them or whatever
Starting point is 01:06:17 may happen while we're right here and we ain't even know nothing. We're right here with bro-cousin. They come over here and they're trying to do something to bro-cous the fuck. I ain't saying this what's happening. I'm just saying, put you in that type of situation. Put yourself in that predicament and say like yeah, that's that's how that occurred with
Starting point is 01:06:35 these guys like with certain people, you feel? A lot of shit started like that. But you and Moodah cool because like you got a crazy bar. You was like the nigger said, I love Moodle but I'm a kid that bitch Blaz in one of the songs type shit. So where you, where you, where you know mood from?
Starting point is 01:06:53 Like, just kicking it with TV and just being out with THA? Man, she ain't your life. Mooter like a look. And shout out Blage and I focus you. You don't want to kill it, right? Nah, man, hell no. It's just the song. Look, I got another interview where I said,
Starting point is 01:07:07 in my interview, I said, man, like, I don't feel like nothing about nothing she ever said or did because of why I'm talking. My man, she didn't how she feel about the guy that. went to jail for. But like I said to everybody else, like, when I was talking about that, like, he beat the case because he innocent of that, right?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, that's filed paperwork and can't come back type of shit, like, because he did innocently show he innocent for... And she says that she doesn't believe that he did. Right. But, nah, a lot of people that her mama was hanging with probably feel another way and be getting to acting while and threatening people with talking crazy and saying negative things that led people like. Like us probably that care about that to say some shit.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Like, so she don't like probably the shit. I'll probably say in my rap's off just history low-key. I wouldn't even want to, I want no pipe. Like, look, back when it was a war supposedly, and they trying to say like when, look, when Tay went to jail, he went to jail for that murder. The murder of Sets and F? That's what?
Starting point is 01:08:10 Right, he went to jail for that shit because what, like what they, why they was trying to say? What was their story on him taking him to jail? All they think it's a, they think it's a beef to a point here. did that I ain't cool like he beat them cases feeling like but then you got like I wouldn't like a member in the streets to the point I'm looking like if it's some enemies coming about I'm shooting at somebody or trying to shoot at somebody and I wouldn't I was the little bro dad when we was fighting don't run like when we
Starting point is 01:08:40 fighting groups and getting jumped this shit well saying don't run but when we in the park and the people came that ran he ain't a little bro no Hit this alley right here. Y'all go ahead on, man, slat the little brok crew. Why y'all even right? So they can handle him. Like, go to him and be, like, on some violent shit. Like, when it's kind of protecting us and shit, like,
Starting point is 01:09:00 I was a shorty back then, like, on that type of, so I ain't care your mama or nothing. Like, but I'll rap about this shit because, like, a lot of shit happening in the streets, like, you feel me? Like, when he went to jail for that shit and he beat that shit, he's innocent for that shit, you feel? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But, like, it caused a lot of hate from people. Like, I don't been. I don't went through a lot of street shit. People trying to do some harm to me because he's from over here. What we're from? And that shit happened. Like, he innocent, though. Like, we ain't fin to put our hands up and run from nobody.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Like, you know, like, so certain people that don't like her. You feel me? Like, I'm just rapping about where I came from and shit. Like, I'm happy as hell. My brother went to jail for that shit to beat it. Like, not saying I'm happy he went to jail, but he beat that shit. What the fuck? He came from up under some.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Man, look, he came from up under something. I should, as growing up with him, him at somebody he protected me. Like a lot of people chased me to the hood one time, and it was Tay Marcus and people like Welch, they deep. All they must not even knew you was from. They ain't no, because you a little kid. That's what they're trying to bring.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Why y'all are so deep chasing? Come here, now these older, old guys stepping up to chase them and I'm in the back of the crowd. Yeah, this happened. This happens, you fit me. It's really happening. Nobody going to say them, captain. Like, that's what I look at Tayahs, like.
Starting point is 01:10:16 that's what I look at Tayy eyes. Like, no, no super killing. What? One of the guys, like, man, what do you do to have him chasing? What'd you do to have him chasing? You like that? I tell you like, man, it don't matter. Would you see how deep them boys was? You saw that.
Starting point is 01:10:29 If they caught him, he was going to die under them feet. You feel me? So forget that. Let's just think about that. We own that. Like, they trip. Like, it ain't about, like, you know, like, it's about, it's about this with us.
Starting point is 01:10:42 Like, you feel? He was, he was, he, Welsh was kicking it. Like, him and Welsh, they were. she had a relationship with my sister. Like, they knew my sister to the point like she was their friend. Like, and they crowd of people at their age. My sister ain't no street person at all.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Like, she ain't no, never claimed no gang. We'd be with none of that type. She was a smart person. A lot of good grades just looked good. And they, they, she was their friend. You feel me? Like, again, like, they around my grandma, Tay and Welch, my grandma career
Starting point is 01:11:11 about coming out of the school one day. Like, and then, like, three days straight, I was seeing him at the same time right here and I ask him like, man, what's going on with you? Like, I don't know what was going on at the crib or what it was. Like, or if him and my sister was kicking,
Starting point is 01:11:26 I don't know what it was, but yeah, my grandma crib, like, feel me? And knowing me, I already, not from kicking it from my sister from being out here in the hood, he knows, you know, this, you know me by name, like, you know, my brother by name, you know.
Starting point is 01:11:40 These people that look out for us, though, like, it ain't, like, they ain't, they ain't never put no gun in my hand and say, go kill, nobody or nothing. He'd never said to me, like, like, nothing to put me in no bad thing. Anything he came to me was trying to either elevate my pockets, elevate the way I be thinking or something.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Like, feel me? Or it dies the hate, like, because it's people out here, like. The older guys be sending the little niggas off the dude shit, right? It is niggas like that, you feel? We never went through that shit. It's niggas like that, but we ain't never went through that. We were older motherfuckers. Like, you feel it?
Starting point is 01:12:12 So we all listen to each other. We never have a... Like, yeah. Shout out Bukita G. My little brother will be rapping going crazy. He's hot, he's nice. He's like, shout out. Baby Blick, his, one of his, one of his clothes buddies,
Starting point is 01:12:27 T, baby, shout out, T, baby. Polo Gila, brother. Like, these the, he got locked up recently. Like, look, like, we ain't had no, no, like, they, they are for, they, like, they, like, they, like. How you got a relationship with Trench, baby? And ain't they, ain't, ain't trench from, like, North or Chicago?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Like, they, they're mistaken. Like, they moved that way and shit, but before that, like, they grew up in our hood. Polo G2? That shit, basically. Well, it was a real? He personally don't know too much about Polo being through our shit, but I remember times where, like, people would be talking about him saying they used,
Starting point is 01:13:06 I used to be hooping in our hood a lot, but I don't even personally remember back then. Like, that was him. Like, that was your house. Like, I just hooped with you a lot. I'm older than I'm so, like, you feel? but no, that shit goes. I was crazy. Like, I'm, like, his age a little young.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I just don't remember him, but no. Like, it's niggas that I was what they're telling me they remember. Like, I don't remember that. I don't remember him. But his little brother, like, he, he went to our grammar school or all that. Like, yeah, they, and then booking him, all them.
Starting point is 01:13:38 They grew up with each other. They got pictures of each other with each other when they was, like, this table, height and shit. Like, for me, And they grew up right down, you know, and they were, so. Y'all expect to blow up this fast? Because, like, you said, you've been rapping since 2012. He just came out of jail doing a 10-year bid or something like that.
Starting point is 01:13:55 They kind of blew up pretty quick. Like, what did y'all thoughts on that? Like, shit, that's just different, like, different strokes for different folks. Like, you feel? They probably took a better life than, took him than the next person, you feel? So you guys, you can't really focus on what he got going on. Because the way he got going on is what he got going on. So, you got to try to make your way by trying to fuck with him, too.
Starting point is 01:14:15 tight shit like you feel me so that's like we all celebrate oh yeah that's what you're happy for him but you feel you know shit for sure Tate is somebody who benefited from all the crazy YouTube videos about him and the interviews where people
Starting point is 01:14:27 are talking about him a certain way that made people very curious to hear what he was going to wrap about. No many years out of his life that that went to this to this like what we would probably call like cloud he got
Starting point is 01:14:40 and like he deserving of I mean if he beat the charge charges like whether you believe personally or you believe personally that he a savage murdering beast and did that to them opposition ass peoples whether you believe personally or you believe that personally he beat those charges so I'm gonna tell you like yeah that shit you feel me like no boy shit that's the best feel this yeah you feel me he deserved it right like that's like you know like keep it real like you get home And that happened.
Starting point is 01:15:16 What the streets of Chicago happened, it doesn't matter who you are. Like, let's say you catch two murder charges and you beat the murder charges. Like, you catch one murder charge, you beat the murder charge. When you come home, the streets, they're going to admire you.
Starting point is 01:15:28 A lot of people don't want to know you the story. A lot of people, like, you feel me? Like, ain't on top of you being a solid type of individual, too? You got it. You got it coming. So when he was locked up, I used to be telling him, like, the whole time he booked, he calling me and shit.
Starting point is 01:15:45 we going through the like process of me some of them years a lot of them years telling them like bro ain't a lot of set for you like that's all right yeah no no jump of water what's all put in it's just a sticker it's just a sticker no it's that pussy water over there yeah i still don't know about the pussy water oh that's some other shit so you got uh i seen you said you got cousins that stay over here in seven five seven and shit you got like a cousin yeah ain't a lot a lot i got a lot i A lot of our family. Like, look, I got a, I just did that boss man, Dilo remakes, man.
Starting point is 01:16:20 It's called Friendly Reunion. I just dropped it. I didn't do a video. I just dropped it on the mic. That shit that you want to shoot. That shit on the mic. I didn't know. That shit crazy, though, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:16:31 I said, I said some shit in there about, like, I said a lot about that for real. You know, my daddy family, my father, family is just huge. You know, like, he got over 10, over 10, 11 kids, you feel me? Yeah, you said my. people with the ops I can't even see my daughter and shit on one of the songs yeah see that right that's like see my look my blood cousins is from the enemy the other side you feel me and the girl I ended up having my first kid with she grew up with them and they decide like feel me so that's what that's that's that's I was rapping like I was being creative with my situation I'm living like
Starting point is 01:17:11 that's what I do with my with my craft like if you really like you said You check me out. I'm really, I ain't just. You ain't just, you really, like, you can tell that you're really rapping in type of shit. And what's crazy is because it's some life shit for real. It ain't that's me making art, you feel me? Like, I'm an artist, but I ain't just stepping in the room.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Like, man, I'm trying to be creative. Like, I'm going through some shit. And then, like, I find a way to put it like this in this song like this. Like, I be going through this shit for real, I ain't. Like, in the song I said, I said, My daddy known out through the low end because he got about 30 children. I got brothers from the other side frequent. He'll jigger.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Like, you feel me? These the real, like, these niggins that probably see me and try to do something to me, like, because they grew up on the other side. And he wanted them for real, like, but this is my daddy son. Call me, getting some money from me right now. Like, I just sent him some money not too long ago. He called me. He don't get it, you feel?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Like, it's my brother. Like, you feel me? You feel? You feel? me like in the household like a brother too like you know just no my daddy got a lot of kids I got an op-ass brother for real it's what it is like he don't it's it's people with me right now have out the cases with him when I went around could have been deadly life of death like he's my little brother though so niggis get like a pass because like if he with me if you
Starting point is 01:18:35 I'm gonna keep it all the way real like you know that he knows that's why he don't be around me a lot like it ain't me like but you chose some shit like because he used to to be around me, like with them. Used to be in the oddhood with us. Represent what we represent. Like, not saying he from Wells, where it's not so ice and none of that shit. He's just like, man, he was running around with us deep.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Fighting and doing all type of shit in my neighborhood. It's my little brother. Living and coming to my mama career for weeks and shit, like, it's my real little brother. Hang you with my guys. That shit with, it's just he got another big brother that ain't from my daddy that's from over there. And since you know how it is, like,
Starting point is 01:19:13 you're close to your mama kids than you is with your dick, you know? Like, just how they raise, motherfucker. In our communities, you feel me? Like, just how it is. You feel me? Like, so he was closer to that brother that was an up.
Starting point is 01:19:26 Which I'm close to him, too, Loki. He's a little bit. He's my brother. Yeah, he, yeah. Yeah, basically, you know. But there's my daddy son, though. But his brother, kind of brother to me, too. He's from over there. But I've been in situations in jail
Starting point is 01:19:41 where one of my, my close homies, like, feel me? Trying to get down on him, and I'm new. That's my little brother, brother. And we're kind of close, like, brothers, too, so, no. But that's the reality in my damn situation, though. I got cousins. I got real blood brothers who grew up in the career with me, real cousins.
Starting point is 01:20:03 I got uncles that have pushed that button on my love. You know what I mean? That, you, you just, you want to send it up with me, you know, like family reunions. shit went on like, like, I was in jail. It was this one time I was in jail. I even said it in a song, like, I wish I was dead so bad that I put together like a, like a little storyline to how, like, if I was there, how I had to go.
Starting point is 01:20:25 How it would have played out? You feel, me? Like, I got, that bitch went so crazy. I'm just to throw the many, you're trying to put that with bro at the family reunion gang. Like, y'all crazy, though. Like, my real father in here, his mama right here. Oh, gee. See me?
Starting point is 01:20:40 Her sister's right here. Now, a generation down. right here, his sisters right here, his kid, now just where he's down, me and all his 13, 12 kids right here. My mom, I'm about pull up in, hey, y'all, I see y'all that. So finally reunion, for real. My last name. Your last name, my last name. Why would you put these people?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Because if I call them goons, if I call them on our family, dang, that's bogusish to say, man, but I'm going to keep this shit a hundred. If I call bro them on some, like, anything, it don't matter who it is. It don't matter. Like, you know, matter of my daddy could be stumping me out, like, as a kid, like, and Broan would have been walking past our career. And they ain't saying I would have wanted Broan him to do nothing crazy to my daddy and them, but, well, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, probably wouldn't, like, we, they
Starting point is 01:21:28 probably wouldn't, I don't know, I'm going to beat that nigga up and nothing like that, but Brodner would have been sitting there, like, Saudi, like, whoa, what's going, hey, what we're supposed to be doing, waiting on me to say, like, like, yeah, something, but I probably wouldn't, I probably sit there and get my ass wood about my pops, you feel me, but like, if I call my niggas at this front of reunion
Starting point is 01:21:47 and say, oh, we don't care that they are our cousins, y'all. Man, they're gonna do what they want to do right here for real. Yeah, we're the most, we're aggressors in the situation,
Starting point is 01:21:55 like, for real. My cousin itself, like, that's why I come here, I come up, like, it ain't, if it was, if it was really, really, really an issue
Starting point is 01:22:03 with them as though, like, I'd say that, but they ask not, my cousin's just from that side, but they don't really put some shit though try to get bro done it out the way like on some at the fun reunion and I
Starting point is 01:22:19 be trying to tell bro like man like that's why me I'm I'm a bank look they say I'm paranoid I said that in the song too like there's real shit like I got a song where I'm singing like I ain't not just rapping I'm singing too it's coming out soon and I was saying like in the song like me and my me and my nigs in the trap feel me I'm in a like it can't be nothing but the guys when you knock at the back, but just move across it because that's body in the dark with strap. He's waiting for something to shake. He paranoid. That's what they say. But he don't care about what they say. That's real shit came from my life happening, like shit happening. I'm really in the
Starting point is 01:22:55 dark, like in the trap. Like the spot on tumout is really one of the guys' career, man. We safe sale. Somebody knock at that back, though, it's definitely got to be on us. Don't nobody from to come through that dead end, a little space and be stuck right there trying to knock at nobody, though, play with us. You know, how you think you set it up on the outside, that's dangerous for you. And people scatter us like a motherfucker. So ain't nobody pulling it. So me, I shouldn't be at the back door thinking every time somebody knock, run to the back door to make sure.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But I do that. And it never fails. It's a nigga knocking at the back door. And he probably already halfway that out. I slid passing with the, look at myself. He walked back past. What you on, bro? Ain't nobody questioning that, I know.
Starting point is 01:23:41 That's just how I move. You feel me? All right, I feel like, so any music you working on? What you got going for the rest of the year? Are you putting out an EP? Yeah, see, I just put together a mixtape and an EP. I'm just working out, like, how I'm about to drop one of them. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:23:58 Like, got the name of it? What's the name of it? So the people? Yeah, the EP. The, um, the mixtape is called the villain, the bad guy in the movie. You feel me? because when I'm from we like in all the songs
Starting point is 01:24:11 I'm talking about how like when I'm from the bad guy really like in the movies and shit ain't always bad like if you really watch the movies and shit I don't never really be the bad guys
Starting point is 01:24:22 it always be some shit like well my motherfucker was mad to somebody else's business like you seen The Joker like it's a TV show about the Joker on Netflix it's cold like if you've got to check it out or not I'll just check it out
Starting point is 01:24:35 it's decent He was like a Like he was He was I can't think of the words I'm looking for But in the beginning he was like a bus boy He was
Starting point is 01:24:44 He was watching dishes and shit Getting pushed over and shit Feel me like getting smacked around And shit Yeah I see this And where I'm from and shit Like we used to be like We don't come from no money
Starting point is 01:24:57 You know like A lot you feel me So I used to come to school sometime Like O'GNum had that money though though though My mom and my parents It was telling them like but we were like overstray but I was bad so I go on punishment I miss out on the gifts like
Starting point is 01:25:10 like so I come to school with my with my busted-ass shoes looking like fucked up then snooge I don't know the situation but both OG probably ain't got it so oh yeah if they did I'm just using yeah it's right away you know like but I'm saying like because we y'all used to get fresh shit like nays one just straight bombs but we don't come from no bread like no like no super bags like Like, niggas in my hoods got to them bags But when we were shorties, I'm talking about, like, growing up when I learned how I feel about my brother, we ain't hot shit, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:25:44 That's basically what I'm saying, like, so we did, dude, we go, you feel, me? You end up straight, though, you feel me? But, though, I was the one coming to school with the fucked up clothes sometimes, though, when people tried to play with us, like, you feel me? And I was smaller than, like, you wasn't always the big, we weren't bigger than people,
Starting point is 01:26:00 and we're just the heart, you feel? This shit came from people playing with us, like, we ain't know, devilish ass people like and it learned and they come like that with a lot of villains in the movies like think about it i really watch the movies and see where it started what happened with that villain and that's the name with a EP me it's called the villain the villain when i'm from that's what that's about like the bad guy in the movie like they don't like they hate us no like they they they look at us like you to you the devil you the devil you the
Starting point is 01:26:27 bro got kids and he a spectacular father right here what i'll be seeing on the daily what i see on the day we do like I see bro like right now we're on a right now we're doing shit like brothers road trips like right now me and bro them just just the bros no hoes just us on the road driving from all the way to the trenches the rack all the way is no jumper to get up with child you feel in the in the sprint of van you feel me that that came out of our pockets ain't no ain't nothing back in us nothing like that it's us doing us every little piece of it the guys all that coming out of our pockets just to be like hey because they We can get on the planet and fly that little shit, right?
Starting point is 01:27:06 But this is something we could do as brothers like a family. Bond, violence, too. We make it to where we make a camp here. This is what we can really show you, like, with what's going on in our life that we ain't even no treacherous. We ain't even the devil. You feel me, like, we really love each other and everything. Like, you feel, we're arguing about who's going to drive all these hours, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:28 We just drove 27 on. First day I had to drive from one spot in the rack to where I'm at. And then drive 22 hours from there. Like, you feel me? I'm putting my hands on the wheel myself. So just, I'm saying, we're coming through the mountains all that. Like, and we ain't taking a scary route. Like, we're on some, we're trying to see some shit.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Like, that's what we're doing. Like, we came through the mountains, you feel? Right, right. As a brother's a family on some family shit, just to be on some exciting crazy. We got the route that we can go, well, it ain't that bad. We came through that shit on purpose, like, trying to see something. Is your first time in Kelly?
Starting point is 01:28:01 Yeah, we got it. That's love. So for the people who ain't never heard any of your music, like, what they need to check out, to get in tune, what you got going on? And where can they find you, too? Depending on what type of shit you fuck with. They check out all that shit.
Starting point is 01:28:13 They got to go from the O-Den to the Noot. You don't understand better. Before any intention was on me, and shit, I dropped two mixed, I dropped two mixed tapes. One of them called Treacher's Activity One. The next, I mean, it's not called just Treachered Activity. I don't want it's Treasured Activity, too.
Starting point is 01:28:29 You feel? Like, if you go back to that body, you'll get an idea like what my craft really like like it ain't just no like you like you say you can check me out now and see what I'm doing now
Starting point is 01:28:40 and see the same but like that's some that's some shit where a person like him would be like yeah that's that's vintage right though that's that's that I can still go to that now
Starting point is 01:28:51 like how you can probably play some biggie today and be like yeah I still bump to that I like that old shit like that like that shit hot like that that's like that with him like he probably been
Starting point is 01:29:01 And I'm coming in the room, he plans some shit on. And that shit, so old on, yeah. Like, I got too much new shit, like, a lot of new shit. Like, you're listening to some shit from three, four years ago. Like, buddy, if you go check it out, we'll see why. You don't really like that with this rap shit. So, everybody, I need to be ready for the villain when it drop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:22 They need to go lift to that old shit, too. They need to live there. Y'all go check out, Treacher's One and Part 2, right? Yeah, for sure, for sure. I got anything else to tell the people before we get up out of here? Hey, I want some real shit, man. Like, I fuck with y'all platform, you feel? Appreciate y'all having me through here and everything, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:29:39 Appreciate that. And you're a great communicator. You got a, you have a lot to say. Yeah, you feel me? I don't look. I kind of just sat back and just let you go off. I came here telling him I was going to be open with y'all about, you feel me how we're coming, like, I like, I really fuck with how y'all coming shit.
Starting point is 01:29:55 And at the same time, you feel like I wanted to have some type of control about how we were talking about shit right here. you, feel, because I know you, I know you've heard, and I'm watching you, you feel, you should get a little crazy. On here? Yeah, you, you, you, say, the shit, I'll be like, hello. I'll fuck with him, like, I'm fucking with you. We made it through the whole par without saying anything gay.
Starting point is 01:30:16 We don't play that type of shit, though. Yeah, it's all like that. Yeah, look, we got to do that with the people. You see how, look, you see how you, you see how you get that? What do you guys on to say before we get up out of here? Like, yeah, yeah. I was basically saying, like, you feel me? I carry, like, I carry, like,
Starting point is 01:30:30 what you said, like how I communicated and got a lot to say, I wanted to control shit like that. I feel, y'all can't. Y'all came with another Remo, too. Yeah, that shit ain't. Oh, really? That shit ain't. That shit, really. Big Remo over there. Oh, okay, yeah. But not just
Starting point is 01:30:46 like shit like that. Like, hey, that's what he's telling you. You're funny for saying that. You feel, but. Little Rose Royce Remo. Look, you're funny for that and shit. I really don't. Not really how you come from, but, but look, not that, though, like, just like,
Starting point is 01:31:00 How you carry yourself in this shit, like, I'll fuck with it. And it could get, like, super interesting with you and shit. Like, you feel it, you've been to ask some shit and the motherfucker be sitting there. Like, damn. Like, he's been to know some shit. Like, you feel me? Like, and I speak for the people.
Starting point is 01:31:16 I want to ask people the shit that they want to know. And you ain't ducking your taco, you feel me? Like, you're going to speak your mind. You feel me? And we're not picking and choosing either. Like, we let everybody come, you know what I'm saying, voice their opinion and shit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:31:29 That way. show that. Yeah, and everybody go tune in with the music because you definitely been going crazy. Yeah, man, they ain't gonna lie me and Tay got some shit coming too. I was gonna say, I feel like, Tay kind of like, started motivating you at a certain point. Yeah, see him? I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:44 I've been fucking with this shit for a minute. It's just, you know, like, well, we're from, like, we're the underdolls and the shit, the villain, the bad guy in the movie. Like, you feel me, so. Like, but if you check me out, I've been, like, I guess it's been times I was so consistent. I was going real hard,
Starting point is 01:32:00 I want to see what I thought I was supposed to see. I just didn't let go of myself. I really pushed brother to get in this shit for real. Like he had his own ideas to be like, like how he approached this shit or whatever, like, but I know me telling him how I feel and, you feel, why he was locked up and getting him the outlook and what's going on out here
Starting point is 01:32:18 and how you could take advantage of this and, you feel me, because of the type of person you is, you, you feel me, you ain't a bad type, you're a good person for it. You could get in this shit that people like, you already. Now you get up here rapping and they like that too. And then you got the background and match. What else? It would just be dumb and sell if he didn't get out here and do what he got to do. Feel me? You're the last. Yeah, like and it's genuine, it's
Starting point is 01:32:47 authentic. It's right. There ain't no shit he put together. Like it's really just how life fell in place. Feel me like living his life, you lose your best friend and shit. So much shit going on you then you go to jail and shit. Get out. You better make the best of your situation. For sure. For sure. All right. Appreciate you, man.
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Starting point is 01:33:24 We out.

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