No Jumper - Hazel E on Dating Blueface, Their Dramatic Break Up, Why She Likes YNs & More

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Hazel E talks about her legendary status in the reality TV landscape, dating Blueface, Ray J, Chrisean and more! ----- Check out e420 app for deals Apple: https://spn.so/g6gbid5j Google: https://spn.so/104g2yp6 use code NOJUMPER for $$ off Shout out to all our members who make this content possible, sign up for only $5 a month https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNNTZgxNQuBrhbO0VrG8woA/join Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5tesvmDS8h50LkjnSAWMOs?si=j6sJD6DkR4mk5NZZWnlK7g Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTjwXa4an6sBGIe7m5 iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/no-jumper/id1001659715?mt=2 Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_Jumper/4874336901 http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The five-year-old birthday party scene is pretty wild. It's wild. It's intense. You go to, like, other parents' five-year-old birthday parties, and they're bawling out of control, spending, like, 100 racks, and you're like, oh, shit. I didn't do 100, but I did close to that for the first birthday. The first birthday, we went crazy, too, and then after that, we were like, this is out of control. I did the whole Cinderella carriage, horse-drawn, white Clydesdales, you know, parade. Like, I went nuts.

We had a pony. Yeah. Well, I was in Houston, so I was different. You could paint a pony. The kids were into it. You like slather paint on the pony. A lavender pony? All the times of different colors.

Anyway, no jumper, coolest podcasts on the world. And today we're tapped in. We got Hazel E on the podcast. How you feeling? I was popping. I'm feeling good, feeling blessed. Yeah. I mean, I met you a couple weeks ago.

And I think it's fair to say that you were in love at the time. I wouldn't go as far as in love, but in a lot of like. You were touching on this man and vice versa. You were in the throat. We were into it. We were into each other. Yeah, it was crazy. I thought we were, you know?

Yeah, no. Okay, so where did that come from? Like, I'm just so confused about how this even flared up. Right. Because we haven't even talked. Like, he literally did his thing online, talk trash. But I think I was, like, matching his energy because he was doing a bunch of 20V-1s. And then this whole, like, repertoire and, you know, collection of animals.

and species. And I didn't know, like, at that moment when you saw us, that it was, like, going to be, like, a, I'm one in his collection. Okay. I wasn't in his, I was his top two draft pick, top three, Hazel makes the top three, like, when do we get to a draft? Like, I never agreed to be a part of a conglomerate of other females. So what was that first moment like when you saw each other in the club?

Did he just grab a hold of you and you were just, that was it? When we first linked? Yeah. Oh, we were at the league, but meme house was like a celebrity basketball thing. Oh, okay. And then, yeah, we walked in and he was there and it was like, oh my God, I just text you. I can't believe you're out of jail. Like we hadn't seen each other since 2023.

Right. And then he's like, take my number. I got a new number. I was like, okay, bet. Then he hit me. And he's like, where you at? I was like, I'm at all mighty J's single release party right around the corner. Meemhouse doing it.

He's like, right, about to pull up. Oh, yeah, I remember. Yeah. And then he pulled up on me. And then, you know, I was like, all right, let's get bottles. da-da-da-da-da-da. And then we were standing there talking. He's all in my ear. He's like, you want to go viral? And I was like, okay. So I told Shirley, I was like, yeah, get the cameras. Let's turn this bitch up, you know? So, and then it was just like a vibe.

Wow. And then he hit me to be in his video like the next day. And we shot the video two days after that. Okay. And then. So did you guys have sex the first night you met? No. No. Was there? Not even till, not until after the video. Okay. After the video. The video got you in the mood? Running around the house. It may, you know what? It kind of a sexy vibe. You were like bent over on the bed next to him and stuff. I was kind of feeling you watching it. Yeah. It was.

It was very intimate. I'm getting hot. It was very, very intimate. You know, I know which you guys were about to set up, but I guess it's not working no more. But yeah, it was intimate. It was sweet. And then after the video and he paid me and we, you know, did the business. He's like, I like to take you like on a real date.

Oh, okay. So you're like fully kind of involved romantically and still you were like, nah, if I'm going to do this video, I need to get paid. I didn't even have to tell him. I just told him what I needed. And he said, I got it. Oh, really? Yeah.

He said hair, makeup, glam, babysitter, Nick, like, whatever it is you need. I got it. It costs a lot to be a bad bitch. We forget about this. I mean, you know, I'm not like the basics cooking, you know, Thanksgiving, you know, dinner and Tim's in the kitchen. But, you know. Yeah.

My whole life I like never really paid. I never even considered for a second paying for hair, makeup, babysitter, but then you really start kicking it with girls who got shit going on. And it does kind of seem like a fair trade-off as much as I don't want to ever do that. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like a high-valued woman. Not to say like on some escort shit, but our time is valuable. Like I do come with responsibilities.

For me to show up and be hazily today, I got to get my wig put on. I got to get my face beat. I got to make sure my daughter's set and taken care of. I got to get here. So it's like, you know, I just feel as a high-value woman, my time and my presence is valuable. And I feel like any man that is interested in me should be willing to. But you don't think, do you think that that is like the average woman kind of having that escort mentality seep into their brain of like if I'm going to do anything, then I need to be compensated for my time. I feel like girls watch TikTok.

They see these escort chicks and they sort of like allow that logic. They listen to the city girls. Yeah. They let that shit seep into their brain. They weren't, you know, I'm girl coding. Yeah. I graduated with my bachelor's degree in mass communication, TV broadcasting was like the top publicist in L.A. You're saying that the city girls could never graduate college?

No, they didn't, and I've definitely told them that for sure. It was a huge beef. Yeah, it was me and Kareja. There's a disc track, Little Yachti, and Lee Berthin. Oh, okay. The city girls on there because they took my whole, like, acting up was my record I did on Love and Hip Hop season four. They took the girl code named it the album. I own Girl Code Inc. I incorporated in 2014.

Really? So, yeah, there is the business side of me. you know what I'm saying? So that escort mentality, I know where you're, you were going with that. And it's important because, like, my book was in colleges for freshman college girls. It got put into actual curriculum. So it was to teach women about the girl code and keeping ethics and morals, right?

So even if I have an escort, if you say that's an escort mentality, it's just for me, it's a business mindset. I'm not saying he had to pay to hit, right? Because he didn't have to pay to hit. But he wanted me to do a job that he's going to make money on. Right. Because you're in that video for life. I'm in the video 5.

He wants to delete everything in me, but he can't delete the video. I dare him to. I want him to put it back up. Wait, it's still up, right? It's still up. But people were saying because I was like, you know, I helped make your video number one. Even on the video said, he was like, I'm so glad I picked you. Like, I made the right decision.

Like, he knew. He knew what my viral capabilities are, too. Like, I've been doing this. I started the viral shit. Like, come on, we built Shade Room. Like, me, Kat Williams, loving hip hop season one. We had the internet on Smash. So where they're at in this space, it's like, yeah.

yeah, if you're going to do that, you put me in the video. So, of course, I hope to go number one. So it's like the highest ranking engagements you have on your page. But so did you think twice at all about some of the lyrics in the sense of like comparing women to dogs? I know that that's been very, very viral and very funny. But I can imagine that when you're in the middle of this love affair, maybe it seems all good. But then maybe in the back of your mind, you're also thinking like, hey, this is maybe not how I want to be presented, especially as a woman who's been in the game for a while.

You know, he deals with a lot of chicks who are realistically pretty ratchet. Yeah, he does. Oh, sorry, yeah. Okay, so about the dog thing. So when he was saying the golden retrievers, I'm going to start picking up. Like, there's fans that were reposting on TikTok, and they said what a golden retriever means in like this millennial or generation Z term. And it's like a loyal companion that is loving and caring and blah, blah, blah.

So I took the golden retriever term as like a Gen Z. Like if they say, what do y'all, what they be saying? Them niggas is on a shelf. Like they owed or, oh, that's cooked. Like that's done. Like it's over. So it was like one of those terms. So it was like, okay, if that's like a new millennial term, then that's fine.

Like I'll play into it. Like I'm your golden retriever. People are up there. I'm looking for my companion and stuff. So it's like, okay, like I'll embody that, claim that and we'll like make it, you know, it's his thing. So I'm gonna just co-s sign it real quick. and act like it's not a bad thing.

Yeah. But Blue is like real animalistic. He even likes to growl during sex. Really? Yeah, I think he really thinks he's a dog. Wow. So it was like a dog vibe? He's definitely very growling and very scratchy and very buddy.

Was that hot to you? It was definitely, I was like, maybe it was like some out of jail like thing. That's what I was thinking. In prison, you got to be kind of an animal to survive, yeah. Yeah, I was thinking maybe it was like maybe like, and then I was like, damn, the dog. I was like, this nigga really think he a dog. Like, for real, like he, you know. You know what I'm saying?

Like, he really thinks he's a dog because even in the bedroom, that's when he gets into the real, the real role playing with the pets. Did he ever bark? Wasn't as they a bark, but it was definitely a, er. There was no actual animals involved in this, right? There was no animals. He was like, you know, I guess he was dog and trying to catch a nut. Oh, shit. Yeah.

I mean, we all, you know. Wait, so when did you, so sexually, would you say that he lives up to the hype? I don't know if the hype is, like, about him. as a sex partner necessarily, but you're kind of making it sound like he was really performing. He's definitely performative. That's a big word these days, yeah.

It is, huh? Wait, wait, wait, so you're saying it's performative. Does that kind of mean that it's more of a performance rather than actually providing sensuality and pleasure? Yes. Really? So he's more like a wrestler. He's in there flexing.

Yeah, I mean, the hype is about the size that he's rocking and I won't decline. He's definitely top two probably. You know what I'm saying? Top two, what? Biggest f***es I've ever had. Who's number one? See?

We didn't talk about number one. I didn't know that he was like reported to have had a huge dick. I didn't know that. Oh, you didn't know that. Oh, I mean, I'm surrounded by so many big things that I probably didn't even think about. Yeah. I will see. I'm not fortunate to always, you know, find horses out here.

Really? In the world, you know, it's kind of pre-brike was it. Yeah. You got to have a little something going on. Right. Right. So in my everyday life, you know, I'm not running across horses. all the time. So for that, I'll give him that. I cannot take the credit away because then I'll be

capping now on cap. But you're saying that he's got the equipment, but maybe at times... Like I said, I thought it was very fresh out of jail. Very fresh out of jail. Between him being not scared or like reluctant, but, you know, his whole little low sex drive and I was to myself for two years and didn't have sex. So I started to, you know, learn how to live without it. and then to very get down on your knees and suck my ticket on a fuck. You know what I'm saying? But are you into that vibe of like kind of the dominatrix type thing? Of like you want to be told what to do, order it around a little bit?

That's hot. I'm submissive. I'm submissive for sure. Like I'm bossy in a lot of places in my life. But with like my man, my person, especially better than I got to be dominated. Was he gang banging while you were having sex? Gang. Like did he bang his hood?

Yes. What was it? What did he say? How did you know this? I don't know. I just feel like I know I'm well enough to know that. You know. Yeah.

On the schoolyard Crip. On the dead homies. Oh, on the dead homies. Oh, school yard crp this is my pussy. Damn, for real. That's awesome.

How the hell did you know that? I don't know. I just felt like I know. I'm like, I knew what his style would be. Yeah. That is it. I'm crying right now.

I'm dead. Dead on the dead homies. That was definitely on a dead homies. But was it weird to like, you know, kind of have this like flare up. But like, obviously you're on TV. You're getting all this attention and stuff. But like,

now you're in his. world where it's like it's a totally it's a fried fan base of some of the most burnt out bitches on earth are like really in the Blue Face fan club. I was like with Cat Williams for four years. Right. And he's a little bit of a Jay Cat but I mean Blueface

he's on a whole different playing field I feel yeah because Cat doesn't do social media so right yeah and where Blueface is like he's controlling it like every day here boom here's your narrative for the day. Yeah and then I have the nerve to say like oh you call paparazzi and you call it you're like our camera's going to be out there when we get out there like

You're with it. Like you wanted to go viral. You wanted the video to go viral. You were literally sitting there saying, say on the comments, you're with the hottest YN out. Like he's like really trying to. And then like I said. But that is funny.

You're saying that is like hilarious. Well, yeah. So he's smart. He knows that. Well, it's even more hilarious because he's not even a YN. 28, you know. They said the cutoff is 25. He's a, what does it call?

I think he's grandfathered. What? Uh-huh. Happy 25. You're on the show. Oh. And then. Unk.

You're an unk. Right. or big, big homie. Yeah, I just never stopped at 20. He's not an unk yet. No, he don't move like an unk. Well, like in his, we is 30s. I mean, I'm 45.

I'm a cougar. Yeah. So, no, for sure. You all have to own what we are. I mean, okay, he's not, like, you're right that typically 28, you're kind of like out of the YN category or whatever. But I feel like it's more like your lifestyle and like how you present yourself and everything like that.

Like, I mean, I'm confident that he will graduate to unk status one day, but you don't really give out that energy. I mean, with the way those peg legs are shaking and stuff, I don't know. He barely can like, you know, walk and stuff now. I don't know. He might be closer than we think. Well, you think his body is still like adjusting to the weight that he put on? Yeah, because it's so weird. You remember that video when he was trying to lift like the dead. The deadlift. What was that called? Oh, yeah. It's like if you like notice, like his only issue is that the legs are still as small then with the new weight. Maybe he skipped leg day.

Yeah, I don't know. Remember we could try to put the jeans on? And it was like the jeans. Wow, I mean, honestly, that deadlift was a shitload of weight, and his legs, I do remember they were shaking. They were real shake. Yeah, that's how they are. If you look at the video, like, that's the problem. They're like, knock knee, you know, it's just a little, this is a little person. You were making his legs shake in the bedroom, too? I mean, shit, he was on all four.

Like, I don't know. Wait, what? On all four is doing what? I'm just saying growling like it. I mean, growling and scratching and bite, like on top, like doggy style, and like, doggy's on top. Okay, but he's not. No. You're painted a crazy picture by saying he was on all force.

I'm just saying like, I'm all of a sudden kind of uncomfortable with this. No, no, no, no. If I'm in doggy style position. Right. And then he's on top of you. Yeah, like, you know. Prone.

Cone. They call that position. Like where you lay flat and you're kind of, it's like doggy style, but you're laid out flat. Uh-huh. That's a perfect. That's where you really, you could hit that dog pose. And you get the scratches and the growls and the bites, you know?

Yeah. Okay. So my statement to whack, though, And WAC like typically just exploded when I said this. He was like acting like it was a ridiculous notion. But I said like, did you get the idea that he liked being with an older woman? He's typically dealing with these young ass chicks. And like she maybe was given off a little bit more of like a mothering energy.

You know, like being with an older woman, I think that they are more inclined to like take care of you or want to take charge of certain things, et cetera. You know, I feel like that's that's probably accurate or would you say no? Completely. Okay. Yeah, completely. So you were like locking into place in terms of like, is that kind of like an instinct for you to like take a little bit of control? I feel like you're not the chick who's just going to be hanging out. Yeah, no.

I have a child. I'm a single mother. I can't just be hanging out. And a lot of the girls are too. But, you know, like when we go back to that city girl versus, you know, hazily stuff. So I'm going to be at home with my kid. You know, after I took my daughter over there for the video set and kind of got dragged a little bit for bringing her to the circus, this is also, I didn't even know about. the circus. Like I knew about him. I knew by Creschon. Like I'd never, even though I was on Zeus,

like after my shit aired, I dropped the subscription. So the only things I would know about his life would be like clips or stuff I've seen on social media years ago before, you know, all this. So yeah, like I can't be over at the house, staying at the house all day with my child. I got to get her to school. We live in Calabasasas. You live out here. Like, it just wasn't that. But in a, yeah, the cameras there is can you make the dinner reservations? Can you order me my food? Can you? I need new, you know what I'm saying? We're about to go do whatever meeting at meme house. Can you stop and give me some deodorant?

I need. And yeah, you just instinctually just like, okay, like he's a YN. Like, of course he needs help. But he can still match it up because he could still, you know, send me the car service, send me the buy me the roses, give me the money. Like, you know, so it balances. So it felt good or like, does your, would you say that your preference is like a YN or would you prefer to be with a guy who's, you know,

45, 50 years old who's kind of a little bit more solid doing you know grown man stuff all day as opposed to you know kind of running wild that's what I probably need and would probably like do me well but those guys want younger

women so they're not really into us they want somebody that they can like that's going to cater to them that they're going to be their world that that like aren't going to come with as many restrictions or boundaries and don't know what they want and they can worship them. Really?

That's the vibe? Yeah. I feel like a lot of guys out here are looking for something more solid. I'd have to probably go up to like 60 or something. And then me and 60. 60 is a lot of. Yeah, I just, I can't do 60. I've tried 50.

I've tried 40s. I feel like 40s, they're already, they're divorced like myself. Like they're just, they're wounded. They keep their guard up. They like hate love. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's at that they want to just be there. And the Yians, they still have like hope for love.

They still want to live life. They still want to bring life into you. They just worship you. So you're saying like when we see the 20-year-old NBA star who's just head over heels for some girl that we look at her and we're like, who is this regular ass bitch? That's more of like a young dude thing. But then once you find that guy and he's on the rebound,

he was married for six, seven years, and now he's out of it and he's like 30, that's not the guy that's like necessarily looking to get locked down. They're trying to while out. They're trying to while out. And then they're toxic. And they're like super. talk and then ooh those are like the daint like the 30 range is like really rough for me it has to be

like 40 and up or like you know 30 and under like the 30s for some reason I don't know that's when I just don't have luck with guys in my 30s I don't know why I stopped like when I think about when I got into a relationship when I was like 32 I was wowing the fuck out I was still party in my ass off me too I started loving hip hop in our 30s yeah 36 is when I was like you know what I'm gonna have a kid and chill the fuck out yeah exactly and I waited until 40 I waited until I waited until I was married I waited until you know so I was just like a late like I got it all out my system you know but I got waited till 40 like and then I married to YN he was 25

right was that a mistake well I mean yeah clearly but do for different reasons though yeah no just because it's not even he just wanted a mom he wanted to be taken care of is damn really like he was like a tender tinder swindler you know because he's already remarried again has another baby we've only been divorced two years oh shit yeah So he's just going to find his next victim. When did you start to sense that the blue face thing was not going to last too long? Like were there reverberations before the actual shit got shut down?

Well, he knew that I think it was after we saw you. That weekend he had invited me to go to like his shows and get ready and get the babysitter, like all that stuff. And then he just started like flying chicks in and popping out on the carpet like for it. And I was just like watching shit in real time. And that's why he like sent me that bread. Like like I'm getting right back. Just, you know, stay solid or whatever. And like he was really like trying to make sure like he still held like he still locked it in with me but still was able to go do all his stuff.

And I was still like, okay, like he did just get out of jail. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's just outside a little bit. But once I started seeing him do that, I just started posting similar activities, me outside at my booking with a guy. Me on FaceTime. Turning around for for this one. And just showing like if we're not going to be like that together, then I'm going to do what the hell I want to. And was he not feeling it?

That's where that's why he said you're so immature like in the rant. Like, oh, the shit that you're doing online. You're too old to be. He didn't give anybody a reason. Just that I was too old to be doing the stuff that I was doing online. The only thing I was doing online that day was matching your energy. Right. Not saying anything to you, just showing my interaction with other.

I think he was probably trying to test you. He wanted to prove or see. That's what Wack said to. Yeah, he wanted to see if you were going to be comfortable. keeping it cool while he did some rapper shit. And then I think maybe you kind of failed that test by being like, hey, listen, if you're going to do that, then I'm going to do the same thing. Like he wants, it might have been a test.

Like, you know, we're both playing by different rules. If I'm going to go out and do this, I'm going to see if you're actually down. Although I'm going to be honest, I feel like he was probably just like bound to kind of move on to more shit either way. Yeah, that's, yeah, more his M.O. You know, like I think I was, I was always on. his like wish list you know oh really um yeah for sure always on his wish list like he flew me out here before like he never got to hit so it was like that's why he came back that's why it was just doom boom

boom wait he flew you out before went in 2023 oh i didn't know that yeah so in 20203 i put up the flights and the receipts of that too because he's like i don't even know you i'm only know you for 20 days well okay so here's our flights here's the money you sent me here's the hotel here's the now what because all i'm going to do is debunk every lie that you're telling tell the story correct and I'm cool. But if you want to say, like, I only know you for 20 days, Hazel, you too old to be acting this,

you know, my mind's will go get me a young bitch. You're going to go there. Okay, I'm too old. You just got out of jail. Like, you're a convicted felon with scribble, scrabble all over your face, bro. Like, this is like, when you go look at power couples,

it's because both partners bring, you know, equal contributions to the relationship versus him and making his baby mama famous or make both, both as baby mama's famous, like. But did you want that treatment? Were you thinking I'm going to get the blue face for Sean glow up era in my life of like,

just inject that new energy? I mean, I don't have to get anything like Craig Shaw. Like, I don't even think we should be in the same like sentence, you know, because like I'm a legend, like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, so I don't have to get. I feel like she's well on her way to being a legend, one way or another. A crash out legend. Like it's not like a key. It's not, yeah. I mean, yeah. But like,

legendary and broke or in, like, it's just, she could be a legend, but for the wrong shit. You think she's broke? I don't know. Every other day, it's like a report about somebody having to get Zulimis giving her money here or she ain't got a place to stay there. Like, it's something bigger probably wrong with this girl. I feel bad because it seemed like she, from like the stuff now that I'm, like, involved.

Like, it seems like she could have been cool before this situation. And, you know, Blue is such a narcissist that he just, like, broke her. and like there's no way she's still running around with no tooth in her mouth and like thinking it's cool like something's wrong before blueface even had like a chance to influence her she was running around getting her tooth knocked out like i remember like kicking it around her when she first went there and she was even at that time like it was so she came to him broken she was out of a house of ratchet bitches she clearly was like holding the crown she threatened to fight me from the moment i walked in because i said something making fun of her tooth and she just

immediately was like, I'll beat the shit out of that N-word. And I'm just like, whoa, that was sick. Like, she's really like that. And that's honestly why he hit me because she was going off breaking shit in the house. And I was like, you're never going to learn. You're going to keep going back to her. And he's like, I might need your help. I'm on a plane back from Dubai.

Can you meet me in L.A.? Like, you know, and all we did was sit in the room and talk about like how he can get out of his situation and this and that and all his shit, whatever. But did I think I'm going to get her glow up? Like, it would have been a glow up for both of us because it was like, if I'm queen of love and hip hop Hollywood, right? Like, there's, like, out of the reality stars and people that live here, like, I'm held up to, like, a young legend that I put love and hip hop Hollywood on.

I brought it to L.A., Moan and I did it. Ray J., we made a whole bunch of stars from it. My first clients as a publicist were Narls Barkley. Shout to Sela. Two Grammys, first year with Echo Haddix echoing sounds when I was a publicist, right? That was a crazy legendary album that nobody ever talks about, yeah. But it is, and we did that. Like, first time PR out the box, like Grammys, like Echo Train Me,

well. So with that being said, he comes out of jail. He could go back to Krayshan and then, because this is what his mama told me, that he didn't know what he was going to do. So when he hit her up or whatever, he was like, let me just try to get some motion going because I just got out. So he didn't really have like a plan all the way. And then when he's seen me, we bumped into each other organically. It's like the shit clicked and he just like Hazel gets clout. Hazel makes TMZ. Like every girl that you're with doesn't get top press. And I mean, you should be able to know that. Like, you know, he could, the other girls. Like they're not, they're not fend to be reporting on these bitches.

Like, you had to earn that. So it was like, it made sense. And then the fact that I do, like, the PR, like, he's not stupid. That niggott told me, he was like, I had a crush on you since you were a publicist. And I wanted to get in your carpets. And I always said, when I make it, I'm going to fuck with you. That's what he told me on the first time he met me. So it's like, you nigga, you've been a fan.

So for you to actually get it and then fumble it just because I was matching your energy. It's like, whack. We could have did it like, Lee's got a show out of it. You say, okay. We could have probably about loving hip hop back. you know what I'm saying? Then crashed out on set, but y'all could have got a bag out of it.

That's all his mama went in anyway. So you're saying that, let's say that he's got like a Zuz show that he's filming for in, you know, a couple weeks or a month or something, and he hits you back. And it's like, you kind of know that he's just hitting you to come back

to like, you know, get some content going and everything like that. Are you going to stand on your square because, you know, I already went through that. I'm not trying to get embarrassed or humiliated or are you going to be like, you know why? This is, this is content.

This is good shit. Are you going to like, snap back in. You said Zeus? Yeah, or something, you know, because I feel like that's who he's primarily locked in with. It's like like Zeus or say like VH1B, like they're, yeah, for an app TV show, yeah, no. But if he was to call me on some network shit, like you know what I'm a network TV girl. You feel me?

I'm IMDV status. Wait, so you look at Zeus as some brokey shit? I didn't know that. All I ever hear is how much money they got. No, Lemmy has like a lot of money. Me and Maseke, we did the conversation. I was like their first fight and everything on Zeus. We cracked Zeus off.

So it's like, no, they've elevated it. but just their programming is like baddies, baddies, and it's just their talent, it's very blue face and Carla, it's very the borders, you know what I'm saying, at Zeus. For me personally, me going over to Zeus, like, unless it was like my own show, like Lemmy was like, okay, so let's bring Cougar Chronicles over. Okay, great, because I probably can't get Cougar Chronicles

on VH1 or MTV, but something with Blueface and a me, we could have, we TV wanted to meet with us. I know Love and Hip Hop was probably gonna be two seconds away, Like maybe we can reboot this. Let's see what this looks like. But for that, we can fight for a bad guy. Right. A storyline's a storyline, baby.

But yeah, like for some do shit, he got it. He got the right girls, but his in his pound puppies right now for Zeus, for sure. But I feel like, you know, if you've got all these wild-ass chicks, it's like you need somebody more steady. Somebody with like a little bit more emotional stability, perhaps. I think that's what everybody wanted for him. But he got to want it for himself, you know? No, I'm just talking from a content perspective. I don't know.

Is that part of it or is like is the modern reality TV blueprint that like everybody's just got to be a crazy person and there's no need for like normal human beings. Because that was my impression from what I've watched at baddies is like this is impossible. Like how is anyone fighting this much? Yeah, there's not. That wouldn't make it on network TV. Yeah. It has to stay on like I call like app TV because no one, you can't put that out. Like who's going to run ads in commercials and baddies on like you know what I'm saying?

like who's going to pay for those advertising slots. Like, that's how they make money in reality. Yeah, my girl was asking me to explain what Zeus was, which kind of explains like how out of the loop she is. But, and I was like, Lemmy is basically a guy who saw Love and Hip Hop and he said, oh, okay, this. I'm going to put this shit on steroids and put it on an app instead of TV. And he did it during COVID too.

So Zeus came out. So during COVID, like, we were coming back for season seven of Love and Hip Hop. COVID happened. They had to push back the production date. I was supposed to have my daughter on season. And they couldn't film. Like, LA was under lockdown. Couldn't film whatever.

Lemmy had Zeus going up. He had, like, Black China on there. And he just started the conversation with Ray J. Prince, whatever. So we got a call in the middle of COVID to do it. Mind you, you can't get any money. You can't do whatever. And he's paying a bag. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Back then, I think he paid me for one day of filming like 27,000 first class flight. Like, you know, it sounds like, I don't want to work with this bitch again. But for this kind of money during COVID, I just had a baby. I'm fin to go, fin to go get this. So during COVID, he was the only one really still filming.

So he was being able to push out content that makes sense when others networks couldn't. Wow, I didn't think about that but that makes sense. And then they just corrupted

the system because then baddies came and it was like takeover. And then it was like, well, now everyone's trying to like regroup because now the fans

are used to watching super ratchet. Like love and hip hop was like the last of like the okay ratchetness. Like, you know, there's housewives and, you know,

like Vanderpunnerpun, you know, there's levels to it. And love and hip hop was like the that's as ratchet as we could go over here. And you get baddies and it's like we're in the gutter. Right. But do you feel like, does Love and Hip-I have to like adjust to compete with that?

I feel like that's probably part of the reason why they also didn't want to come back because now it's like this error level of ratchettiness. They can't do that on network. Like we were getting fined by season four. I was getting fine. Like every time you threw a punch, a drink, you're getting $1,500. I was taking out your check. Really?

Yeah, they started fining us because it was like, like I said, he can only go so far, Ratchet on network. Wow, that's crazy because, yeah, when you watch Zuz, it's like they got the bodyguards sort of like lingering right there, ready to like rip people apart. And if they give you like a good 5-10 just to run it real quick. Exactly, yeah. And it very much feels like the rebirth of like Jerry Springer,

which we all spend a lot of time watching as kids or even like professional wrestling. Yeah. It feels like professional wrestling for girls. Yeah, I love that. I mean, he's made like a culture. It's a culture behind baddies. You know, they have their saying.

they've made artists. And what they're doing, like, I can't even discredit it. Like, I'm happy to be one of the pioneers, you know what I'm saying, to give them their first fight. Even though Lemmy's bitch ass was going to let us go to jail when Masika called the police on us and had us hemmed up in COVID at a cop car. And then it was just like, we're about to have to double file charges so the whole shit got dropped. But that's how you know, like it was a way different thing.

Calling the police. Like, imagine they called police the baddies. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. People file lawsuits, though, right? Yeah, now Masika did file a six. million dollar lawsuit on me and Zeus for her getting her ass beat on that but then we just shot um like a follow up to that with ray j and she dropped the suit and stuff in order for me to film oh well that's good

wait so are you and masika like bfs at this point or what or no okay so that was that time period and then now you're very much not cool but when did you all fall out um oh we fell out during season one 11 years ago it's been an 11 year yeah it's because that's like one i don't have that many connections within the love and hip hop multiverse. But she's one person. She actually basically like defeated one of the no jumper hosts. I remember that. Sharp.

Yeah, I remember that. My Sika got a quick tongue. Sharp got out the paint. Yeah. As a result of her. Yeah, he did. I remember him walked up, threw the shit, like got up, walked out the sea. She's sitting over there like.

You may not get along with her, but that was pretty legendary. She took out a solid pimp. Yeah, like 10 years of pimping under his belt. Because he asked her, does she would have gone baddies? And even though me and Maseker from two walks of life, and you know she's probably very more fit for baddies than me due to her background you know but she even was like that's beneath me you know what I'm saying and he was trying to say you know how it wasn't just saying what you're we're sitting here talking about why it wouldn't be a

fit for me yeah why the circus is not a fit for me like you know you have to be a certain kind of person to want to do that and I didn't like I said I didn't know about the circus like on this go I didn't have much time the nigga got out of jail I didn't have like a chance to go and like okay, well, what's all the shit that he's done in the past? Right. I don't even know he was beating bitches. Like, I didn't know none of this shit, you know? I didn't know.

I didn't know. I'm like finding out stuff. But to me, it seemed very like both ways toxic. So I thought the calm, the mature person, like, if I gave that energy, that's what I would receive. Right. Okay. But so. That's the cougar shit.

But does this like reaffirm your belief that you should be with somebody older and more mature, maybe? I feel like I should be with whoever the universe brings in. I don't know you had to a bit. I feel like no woman as attractive or as successful as you has just like a blank roster. I'm sure at the moment that you linked up with Blueface that there was already guys who were vying for your attention. Every girl's got a little crowd of suitors that she could pick from at any given time. And he opened the floodgates for the YNs. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't going to lie. Like my DMs are, whew, there's some. And I'm just like, oh, I didn't even know you exist. Oh, you like. And they're like coming up on some like, I want to come. Cougar. I want an older woman. I want a more mature women. And it's some heavy hitters in there. Really? Some $100 million net worths

in there. Like, it's, you know, some, it's some stuff. So I was like, oh, okay. Hundred million dollars? We're talking about a rapper? Athlete. Athlete, okay. More athletes with a hundred million net worth. Okay. Not even at worth. It's like contracts. I'm trying to think of rappers with a hundred million

network. Those are pretty short lists. Yeah. No, no. It's ball players. Okay. Athletes. So there's a rappers in there, too. I feel like all the rappers and stuff that are in there just, you know, want to be with the girl use a blue face type time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I never really did like,

like, yeah, the whole rapper thing, like, it's never really been like my, like, you know, forte anyway. So I did it. I tried it. I tried like a rapper, gang member crib like that, like, yeah. You kind of like, where else is there to go at that point? You kind of like, I'm divorced.

Listen, I'm divorced. Okay. That's a good time. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to spend some money. 21 year old rapper or 21 year old rapper? or 21-year-old NBA star? NBA. Because they will have like a more normal personality

there's like a better chance of them being a regular person. Well, that and I feel like they're in their profession, the rules. Like they can't do certain things that will violate their contract. They can't even if, you know, they're alcoholics or like whatever.

Like you have to take drug tests. Like you're accountable when you're an athlete. Not to say that these athletes ain't crashing out. Because we didn't seen some CTE and go. But every day Blueface does multiple things. things that if he were signed to an NBA team, he would be fined like hundreds of thousands of dollars. His probation will come back and take his ass to jail if he don't cut it out. You know what I'm saying?

I thought about that. Hopefully that doesn't happen. That would be a tragedy. I mean, listen, I told him that was, so the night before the crash out, that was another little thing at the Zeus thing. I told him to stop doing some of the activities that I seen because I got detained with you with probation officers for three hours at the house. Really? What happened? We don't even know about that, right? I know. Oh, shit. What were they tripping about? I think, like, one of his baby mommas or some, we don't know, but somebody definitely

call, like, probation and DCFS and, like, saying, you know, there was kids here and it was on safe or some, you know, BS, whatever, and he was very compliant. I was there. He was there. His engineer was there. You know, we got taken out the house. They came up with the little taser scope things because we were just sitting on the couch. Like, we had just woken up for a nap.

He had to go do a 20V1. We saw, like, the flashlights on the other than the boom, boom, boom. You know, and so, yeah, so we were detained. I heard all his charges, everything he posed to do, not supposed to do. We'll go back to jail for the whole list. They were coming back in 24 hours, so he had to clean the shit up. And they literally, his mom, they came back in 24 hours. So he has certain conditions, I guess, that, you know, he can't violate.

And I cared about that. So I tried to, I seen him in a space, and I was like, you should probably take that down. And then he banged on me, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, you got it. And he's like, no, but I love you for it. Because at the same time, it's like, I'm not telling you, like, to turn you down. I'm telling you to keep you free. And right now you might hate me for it.

Maybe that's like the mother instinct shit in me. I don't know. He was like, it's not my place. You know, you never really apologize for it. We moved past it, but. I mean, honestly, like, I feel like I speak for the streets, the hoods of Los Angeles. We can't afford to lose him. Like, it was really dry prior to this.

Like, there's, as far as L.A. rappers were, like, real motion. You know, you got Kendrick, but obviously he's on his own wavelength. Waylength. Yeah, he's... That's what I told him and said. It's only really Kendrick. He's an outer space. And then you got blue face and he's really outside.

Like, you know, you can reach out and touch Booth Face. YG is like here or there, game. Yeah. Legends, but not necessarily like... They're older though. They're not... Day to day in the mix in the same way. He's outside.

Yeah. Getting 310 baby back out there. But yeah, like he is. You know, that's how I was looking, like I said, I was looking from like, you know, that perspective that I don't care of being And if you get mad at me, I'm still going to tell you like, you probably shouldn't be doing this, you know? Right. So that was like a thing, but.

So, okay. My wife and I did an interview with Jaden. And in it, Jaden kind of warned me that if Blueface gets a chance, he will fuck my wife. Right. Now, that might be a little bit less jarring for me to hear than the average person because we do have a relationship in which we, you know, film with other people and stuff like. like that. And so he makes a video where he basically says, hey, Adam, just so you know, I will your wife. And then yesterday she makes a video basically saying, you have two weeks, get tested,

get your stamina up. It'll be me, you, a cameraman, and my husband sitting in a little chair in the corner. Cut cold shit. And today, right before we got on here, thank you for saying that, Right before we got on here, he makes another video where he basically says that I think he picked up on the fact that dollar signs were lighting up in her eyes. The realization that shooting with blue face would probably be like the most viral thing that she's ever done in her entire life. And I think that he sort of like correctly picked up on the fact that she and I were maybe a little bit too excited about this idea that we might be looking at. this idea as like a vacation home, which, you know, from his perspective, it's like, it's kind of like, shit, do you really want to give that career extension slash lifeline to this girl? Like, is that a fair scenario? Or should he be looking to, you know, take charge and do

that kind of content on his own? Which I totally understand. As a businessman, I think he kind of sniffed it out that maybe this wouldn't be as advantageous to him as it would be to her. And there was like not a revenue share or something that could have taken place. He's a businessman. I mean, I would be down for that, but I don't think he doesn't even have an only fans anymore. I've always kind of, I don't think he's going to on camera like that. Like, why would he? Like, most guys don't.

I mean, he said, I think before, like, him and Creshawn's, like, tape leaked or something like that. Did it? I think so. I don't even remember, but. He wasn't trying to do Ray J. Okay. I'm saying Blue wasn't trying to give a full-on performative, like Ray J. Right.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Do you think he should? Do you think he would be able to make it as a star based on what you've seen out there? It would be interesting. People would just watch it for the shock value. I don't even know if they'd even, you know what I'm saying? Because he doesn't take shit seriously.

I don't think people think that thinks that he takes anything seriously. So him even doing it, I don't think they would even think, you know, he'd have to be vulnerable enough to really, you know, do that. Dude, if he couldn't get hard, which, no, I'm sure he's fine with that in the real world. I mean, if he's going to top him all, like, he's. But I'm just saying in the in the world, you want to believe how many of these guys can't get hard. Oh, wow.

If he couldn't get hard, I'm making a 30 minute video compilation of him beating his meat with slow piano music in the background. And we're going to release that to the public. Instead. I'm just kidding. I want to do that to him. But I mean, I just.

I mean, here's your boy. I've seen it. I mean, you don't think it was just literally just off the respect. What? Not banging her? Uh-huh. I mean, really like the respectful thing. But why do you say?

If he wanted to honor our friendship, the most respectful thing that he could do would be to bang my wife. Right. And help us to get a vacation home. Yeah. See, that's what he gets. See, that's what I'm saying. He always talking about some shit is for entertainment. See, that stop writing checks your ass can't catch.

He might have met his match. Yeah, he met his match with us because we really. And he met his match with me. He's willing to do whatever for the bread. Let's get to it. Let somebody bang your baby mama on camera. And then come back and let me know if you were down to do anything for the bread. And this is why I go up because I'm like, does he think he fin to punk me?

Like me, Hazel Eat. Like, you think you fin to get that off? Okay. Like, let's go. So did you accuse him of being zesty in the breakup or was that a fake news post? Oh, it was him drenching himself in the water. It was him, you know, it was very fresh out of jail. It was very, you know, I don't know if he was having flashbacks from the prison shower.

but nothing zesty's happening in there. Nothing in a prison shop? Not to him. Oh, okay. Well, maybe on some other yard. The yard that he's on, I don't think so. Okay, so it was no, I don't know, he thought he was, like, I don't know what it was about that. So, I mean, I saw it, like, floating around and I was like, see, this is what his ass gets,

because that was one of the nice he pissed me on. And it was just like the DL whisper. He likes to, you know, talk about men in, like, certain down low. Who is the DL whisperer? Oh, you got to get into the DL Wispir. Is this an actual person? Yes, it's a person. It's not like a genie.

No, he tells women like the signs and stuff to look for in DL men. He gets into people like, he's great. D.L. Whisperer's like amazing. And so right when he's seen the blue face stuff, he's like, sister, are you for real? He's like, that man just got out of prison. He's talking about Kreshaun and her ass. He's like, you don't, he's like, you guys got to give him time. You know what I'm saying?

Let him catch back up to society. And then it was just like a couple things that I guess. he did, and the D.O. Whisperer was just, you know, posting him and breaking down the down lowness of it. So, you know, he tried to- Not my boy, Blueface. He tried to sneak diss me. So, you know, he tried to repost some old shit for me in season one. So, you know what I'm saying? I reposted some gay shit on him. And then he took it down and then I took it down. But you're in the shower. You're maybe like dancing and you're gyrating a little bit.

I mean, he's an entertainer. That's not zesty. There's no song that he has that required that. There was nothing. I might have to go through the archives. I don't know. I don't know. It was very Tijuana. Bust down thought Tiana. That's not. It was, make me sweat. It was very Tyler. Tila who was giving that water. That's what it was given. I was waiting for him to take his dreads down and just give honey, give face, darling, bark bitch. Oh my God. That's what I wanted like next after that. Okay.

But you don't actually think he's got a sliver of gayness in him, do? Listen, see, no. I don't believe it. I don't have liquor. See if I would have liquor. I would have liquor. would have just said it. You want to leave room for people to believe it? No, no, no. I was going to ask you as a straight man, a question. Hit me. I don't know. Like, this might be going too far. No, it's not too far. Ask. Ask away. Okay, okay. As a straight man, how do you feel about running red lights? I'm down. Right. As a straight man, anybody's, have a problem with running red lights? Okay. So during like the first time we were about to go there, I was like, man, I'm like, I got, you know, period, da-da-da-da-da, you know what I'm saying? This nigga was in the shower, you know what I'm saying? He was like, I'm not gay. I could run a red light. I said, okay, pep talk out loud.

Get to the bed, grabs the con, you know what I'm saying, he's running a red light. About three, not even four pumps, niggas went lip, was like, I can't do. this like you know whatever like we'll try this again when you're off your period and I was just like hmm I didn't know if it was gay or not and I only really have like I did ask I did ask S-K like I don't have that many straight homeboys most of my homeboys are gay so they the thought of running a red light is complete I asked D.L whisper and he was like oh my god I'm so god I'm a gay man because running a red light just terrifies me really and it terrified him and so that was the only only thing that I just was like is that normal for a guy to be scared to run a red light. I was married for four years. If me and my man wanted to get it popping,

red light or not green light, it was popping. So I just didn't have ever come into contact with that before. Okay, but to be fair, it was our first time, though. When it comes to gangsters, sometimes I feel like they're, like, a little bit easily weirded out by things that maybe, like, civilians wouldn't be weirded out by. And also, like, you know, I personally enjoy period sex. I feel like it's kind of gushy and like just has like a little bit of a different feel and texture to it. But at the same time, I mean, sometimes that shit stank. The period specifically like it just don't, it don't smell too great sometimes, especially once you really start digging in there.

It's like, you know, you're kind of pulling, you're sort of rummaging in there and just pulling like the further you go, like you're just unearthing things. It's like an archaeological dig. Is there any possibility that maybe that got to him? I don't know. Four strokes. It was, you know. And I had said something because I was like, damn, you busted like,

Kelly Cook guys. Like, you really just got out of jail. And then he was like, no, I just couldn't like the red light. He's like, so I don't even count that as our first time, you know? And I was like, oh, okay. You know, I just was, it was not even like the running the red light. It was the pep talk to run the red light that concern you. The interesting thing is that he thought that he was down.

And then very quickly realized that he didn't want to do it. Because I feel like a lot of, well, not a lot, but like a good amount of guys are just like anti-period sex. I mean, he was only out of jail probably like like a, probably like a week and a half or so. So I don't know. I was just thinking a nigga fresh out of jail going to want, especially bitch you been wanting to. I don't know. Like it wasn't a thing. Like he just, I was like, you know, he's like, well, we can wait.

And he's like, no, fuck that. I can run a ride. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like changed his mind and the thing. And I'm like, you know? So I just did never have that experience. Like I thought, like, if you guys agreed to run the red light, the red light was going to be ran.

Like, you were doing that. I didn't, you know. I don't know. That was it. That's the only thing. So I wouldn't leave nothing else to speculation. The only other thing, look, the only other thing. No, no, no, no.

You're tarnishing my boy. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. The download whisperer and just, like, in general, when men can't be satisfied with, like, one, not even one woman, like one, two, three, like you got to have a multitude of bitches around you all the time. to make you feel like what, and then you're saying

that you're not even fucking him. It's like, maybe that's not what you want. Because if a woman can't satisfy you and this one can't and that one can't and that one can't, then maybe like a woman's not what you want. I feel like a lot of them are probably satisfying them, I would assume. I think that was just a glitch in the matrix

with the whole period situation. Okay. And also- I love how you're backing him up. That's some real home boy shit. That is some real homebush. But also- Now you should fuck his wife because. I should fuck his wife

No no no He don't got a wife He should fuck your wife So you don't get the vacation home No for sure That would be fire But also like just I'm just gonna throw it out there

The bloods are his ops Okay So I can see how like Blood would be a weird feeling You know As a Crip That might be not something you want to do It might not

You know That's why I'm like Not suggesting anything That's why I wanted to ask you The question first And you said I don't get a f***. That was your literally initial response.

So that's why I went to the story and now you're like saying that, okay, I could see this, I could see that. So that's why I just wanted to start off with asking the question, because it is a real question. I have to ask a straight man, does this bother you?

Is this a behavior that might suggest that he wants something else? I literally didn't know. To be fair, I have shot hundreds of scenes and sometimes randomly, my shit just won't it won't do it I don't know

it's just once in a while like literally probably like one percent of the time it just it ain't really hitting the way it normally is so it could have just been really especially like

when you're in that frame of mind like any little thing can kind of take you out of the zone I remember I was this girl when I was like 20 and I couldn't finish and I told her

I'm like your house is too cold I feel like I can feel the wind like in your room So the environment threw you off It was just too cold I don't know I feel like weird temperatures Is like one of the main things that might kind of Me up like because a couple of times

I haven't been able to perform I mean I've left this open for him to try to dog me out now Like oh it's something like You already gave him an out But it's like that's not the That wasn't the case And it just was a question Right

That I have like I can't see any other gay things Just except for the amount And then like you need to have all these different women And I get it you're fresh out of jail You want bitches and bitches and bitches and bitches but then why aren't you fucking them? Like, you just have them around as like, is it pimping? Like, I'm confused.

I'm like, maybe it's pimping. Like, maybe I'm like not. Like, maybe it's like he's getting bitches, having him be there, putting him on a platform, making their only fan, like, whatever going up and maybe he's taking like a piece of it. I don't know, like, what it is. Well, I mean, you got to admit that, like,

when he helped Jay, when he helped Chrisan blow up, that was crazy. Like, nobody thought that she was going to be able to actually, like, make music or become like this famous or whatever. Then he does it with Jaden. And like, you know, I've been seeing Jaden around. Jaden was like not even someone whose name I knew for many years. She was just like, oh, that Blue Face baby mama is.

She's around sometimes. Like, nobody thought that he was going to be able to take her to the level of stardom that she's kind of at. So I feel like, you know, if you are skeptical of Blueface's ability to like glow a girl up, like, at this point, it kind of feels like he could make it happen for like nearly anyone. Good luck. You think that he's just got like. Lucky a couple times or what? No. I just think he has to have the right girl that's going to be down for that ride.

I don't think Jaden really, you know, she was with him before and she had a baby and stuff. So she's kind of like stuck there with them, period. The Creshaun thing, she was in the blues girls, whatever, the bad girls. She was a recruit from that. And she just didn't give up. I mean, she beat his mama up and sister up. Like she, I mean, she's on complete line of, fuck it, right? Like I said, people love her for her toxicity.

So, I mean, he just has to find that right one that's going to let him do what he does and still just ride. And any girl that gets her emotions, you know, involved in it is going to be like, but. I do think that there's something special about Christian. I think it's fair to say. I like her music. I ain't going to lie. Okay. I think it's fair to say.

And I realize that the word ghetto is sometimes considered kind of ugly. Maybe there's like a better word that I could use ratchet, ghetto, whatever you want to call it. I feel like Creschon takes the cake. Yeah. Lifetime in the culture, hip hop culture, whatever. Like, like, who could you really even put up in the top three against her?

Like, I feel like. Flavor Flav could be up there for sure. Are you talking about girls or just, I was kind of thinking girls specifically. Flavor Flav is, you know, Jocelyn Hernandez is up there with Creshawn. Well, actually,

Selena Powell. I'm kind of tempted to throw her in the mix, too. Yeah, but even her. She's not really ghetto, though. Like she's more like just messy, sneaky. Just a sick. Yeah. She's escort.

Whatever she is doing. I don't know if she's that escort, but you know, that kind of energy. Yeah, that energy. But Ratchet, I would say her, me and Raja, we're having to talk about this earlier because he said he wants to do the Ratchet Awards next week. He's like, you're nominated for Four Haysel. I'm like, shut the fuck up. So I'm assuming this is not going to be like a really big award show.

He's going to do it next week. I might just be like him on stream. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's right. Like, who knows what I'm saying? So, yeah, we were talking about it. And we definitely.

saying Creschon like took the cake, but he was like Jocelyn, he was like, no, but Jocelyn, you know what saying? She got to be an honorable mention up there. And then I don't know, like, I guess Natalie, but not really because it's like her programming is super up there, Ratchet, but I don't think she's, is Creshaun really like takes the cake. Like I don't know anybody that's like. Natalie's the maestro. Yeah, she's a maestro. Which is a little different than really being, because Sean is just like Michael Jordan. She's just like in there putting up numbers on the board. I can answer the house, cutting yourself, leaving a message in blood. Right.

To the point where, like, the clip of Blufo is talking about her cutting herself and writing all this shit in blood or whatever, doesn't even really, doesn't even really register with you like the way it would register. When they sent me the clip of her hitting him with that Hiddonsie bottle and they try to vacuum the glass out of his head, I was like, I was like, yeah. That could have been your man's. I was like, but I see why she'd do it because he triggers you. He's very triggering.

You have to be wrapped really tight. But the thing is he stayed is my thing. So you have to have some sort of level of openness too because you let a chick bust you in the head with a hitty bottle and proceed to take a vacuum cleaner. Right. And take glass out. There's something wrong with you as well, sir.

The fact that he doesn't have the instinct to just leave is what's amazing. Because like a lot, like if me and my girl get into like a little tiny fight, a lot of times like I just like walk out the door take a walk kind of like get back into it Yeah have you tried white Of course yeah How's that going?

I've had like two public white boyfriends My first time was Chet Hanks I kind of hip-to all the black What year was that? That was a season 1, 2014 me and Chet Oh my God so you really got him like early When he was a spring chicken Yeah his dad so had him working at like Fred Seagulls

On freaking Melrose He was on TV and work Well he had did that one movie with was the Cheetah girls or something like that it was yeah but yeah his dad made him have a job like he didn't play with him they he was even like changing his will up to like leave it to like orphans and stuff like that so yeah they had him working so yeah chet was like my first little not first white boy like my first public like white boy did he do the jamaican pattoa thing a lot he wasn't onto that yeah he wasn't on to that you helped him to get on to that here's what you got to do

buddy he's had plenty of experience with black one that's all he dates like he got uh i think his his baby, I don't know which baby mom I want. I know one of them was a stripper and OC though, for sure. Like, Chet likes it. Like, he, he likes, like, the, the, he, yeah. I don't even want to say that. Like, he likes black women. But he, but it's not even just black women.

He like them ratchet. Like, he like it to the point, you know? Yeah. So he's a blue face of sorts. Yeah, for sure. And the, but his shit just stays cleaner because he can't do all the, at the end of the day, he's still Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks' son. So, I mean, it's so great.

If you think about... They're like, okay, you're going to promise. If you think about, like, what he would have to do to command as much attention as Blueface on a consistent basis, like, you just, you kind of have to turn your life into a soap opera. And then you can't just, like, do that for a couple of days and go back to normal. No, you've got to do that over and over. Like, me and my girl had a conversation the other day about, like, what we would have to do

to, like, be that kind of couple. And it's a totally foreign conversation to us. And that's hard for me to cook. But it was so crazy. He didn't really want to do streaming though. Really? Yeah, which is weird because, like, you do want your life to be a constant soap proper, but I guess he doesn't want it to be, like, everything.

He wants it to be curated. Performative. Very performative. He wants it. I mean, I do have the memory of, I think when I interviewed Chad Hanks, that, like, I think he smoked weed partway through it, and he just, like, immediately became, like, quite a bit less fun. Really?

And a little bit more, like, in his head, got a little weird. Yeah. I can believe that. Stood out quite a bit. But I do like that. Was he probably trying to stay sober at that time? Like he has to stay sober. Yeah, I feel like he's always kind of like back and forth on that.

Or has he been sober for a while? I don't really know. Well, now he's doing country music and moved to Tennessee. Wait, seriously? Swear. Wow. I kind of came at him a little bit. Not like, not like big, but like him, Chanel West Coast.

Like, I feel like they're all trying to be like posty, you know? Like they're all like they like, like rap didn't work for them. So now they're just all of a sudden hopping on like the super country train. And I thought it was like really whack. And I'm like. There's so many examples of people who are. trying to jump on. I really feel like a lot of them like they look at jelly roll.

Yeah, they look at jelly roll. They're like, oh shit, jelly roll was like a struggling rapper for all these years. Yeah, love his wife. Yeah, yeah. She wants me to come on. What is her podcast? Dirty blonde. Bunny.

Bunny. Yeah. Bunny. Yeah. No, yeah. You know, I like that because she had OnlyFans. And then once he blew up, she zapped it. And she actually tells her truth about, like, who she was and what she did to get money

and the life that she's lived and how she's changed. Because my wife is friends with her and she's told me a bunch of wild stories. Yeah, she kind of shared with each other. She's honest. She's truthful. She's like a fucking open book. That's why I like her. Yeah.

I mean, but who's even really? Like the Beyonce country album was huge. That's not saying. It seemed like, okay, what Beyonce is going to do? It just got, it's really whack to me. Like, I just was like, so rap didn't work and like you, you culture vultured. And then now you're just like going to go back to your roots. Like, you know, like, it's just weird to me.

Like. I wonder if you can go back to just being a regular rapper after doing the country project. See? And I don't know. Maybe they like saw Little Nausex, like, okay, he had success. I mean, it's in the air. Yeah, it is. What's the other one?

The, what's the black guy? The school. Shaboozy. Or even a little dark in Morgan Wallen that it's the song. And that's fine. Do a song. Yeah. Do a song.

Don't change your whole. You move to Tennessee. Like when he told me, it was like at Amber Rose's birthday last year. And I was like, where are you at? He's like, I'm in Tennessee now. And I'm like, what? He's like, I do country music. And I'm like, he's like, it's music.

scene. It's huge out there, and I'm like, that's just weird how you were just over here. Like, now you're just doing country music singing. And it sounds, it's not even bad, but it's just so unauthentic. I could kind of like imagine him having success as a country singer in Nashville more than I can imagine him having like any legitimate success out here. Like, I feel like, I mean, not even as a diss, but like, is he going to be taken seriously as a rapper? No. Could he reinvent himself as a country singer? I mean, it definitely sounds like it could happen. When he was with me, he went by Chet Hayes. Yes.

And then he's back to Chet Hanks. Yeah. You know? And I was like, why are you on your last name? And it is Chet Haysbitt. And I'm like, okay, the Haysley baby, Chet Hays thing. But I feel like maybe you can't base your judgment of what it would be like to date a white guy off of Chet Hanks. I feel like he kind of exists in like a different sphere of white guy to be solely real.

Like a Jack Harlow-Harlow-ish type. Okay, Jack Harlow is kind of a superstar. I mean, I'm just saying like types of white guys. Yeah. I mean, you know, everybody can't be George Clooney out here, you know, or like, what's the other one I like, like a Channing Tatum-esque, you know. A proper white guy. I mean, I have a little, like a little flavor. Like, I mean, I want like a little something.

What if Travis Kelsey ends up back on the market? He got it. I got his done like the, like he went too far to the other side. Like he'd have to get the black wife effect all over again. Yeah. God. But he did that. And then.

He was great when he had the black wife effect. You know. He looked at all. I just like wonder sometimes like, like is she committed to this? Like could she leave? We're talking about Taylor Swift, obviously. Like could she like,

I feel like her changing her mind is like impossible. She's just built up this guy so much that if she were to end this relationship, it would just be insane. She gave him way too much of a stimulus package. But also, I mean, there are times where you kind of look at their relationship, like on that one podcast they did together. And you're kind of like,

like is this meant to be? Because I could for sure see this not working out. But I feel like she's put so much into him and built him up so much that like... And that's what we all do as a woman, you know? And I mean, she can. Like, she can look, listen, I say, I turn you up. I turn you back down. You know what I'm saying?

But the true test is like when he retires, will she even be exciting and attractive to her? Because I see some of my friends who have been with athletes and they're not with them now that they're retired and stuff. I feel like, you know, the rush, that excited. is gone. Like, will you be fine with him just coming along on your tour with you? Yeah. You know, like doing that kind of shit. Because once the whole hype and that, that thing is gone, like, will it last then? I mean, I feel like him being at the end of his career is probably a good thing because I feel like being her husband is so easily a full-time job that like I could just imagine him kind of falling into that.

And if anything like if the next 10 years, like if he was at the beginning of his football career right now and he was like expected to have a 10 year career. Like I feel like that would be like way more taxing whereas like I think she wants to kind of like on the new album. She's kind of saying like she wants to settle down and have this like very. She might do her Rihanna and Azeb. And then you see how she's pushing him more into fashion and more into like whatever. And she's like taking a complete C bag. She got the bag. You know what I'm saying?

I feel you, but I feel like. She might just hold it down like that. She has like a psychotic desire to be the greatest artist of all time. Oh, Taylor. I just don't. I don't know. Everything I've seen from her doesn't really suggest that she's just going to kick back and like let somebody else take the throne.

Really? I don't know. She just seems like she's like one of a kind in the sense of like, no, she's going to ride this career out and be the goat until the end of time. I don't know. Her, Miley Cyrus, they're all kind of on the same vibe. Hell no, Miley Cyrus can't compete with our queen. I like Miley Cyrus, but Taylor's a goat. Oh, Miley. Yeah. No, Miley's dope. Taylor, I mean, I'm just like. You're Swifty. My daughter's a Swifty. My wife is such a Swifty that I'm bought in on this shit. Wait. I never thought I would give a fuck about this. And I thought my daughter was going to be

loving Beyonce instead. She went to shake it off. Shake it. And I'm like, wait. I'm like, come on all the single ladies. Come on, let's go here. She wants, you shake it off. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, she was a realization one day. Now she's a demon hunter, of course. Oh, my God, my daughter, too. Oh, my God.

The K-pop has killed everybody. Like, no one has a chance right now. Yeah, I notice that when I play K-pop songs for her that she is very into it. Yep. Rap songs doesn't give a fuck. Unless it's like really catchy. Yeah, really catchy. Yeah, it's demon hunter.

Dance class, like everything. That's all they're doing there. So. Yeah, no. I don't know. Hmm. Yeah. Travis would have to, yeah, he needs a black wife effect over there.

Who else? What other Hawaii guys? I don't know. You got some friends? That are in that. DJ Vlad. Yeah, no. Why?

I've known Vlad for years. Filthy Rich loves black women. Oh, Filthy Rich. He's up there. I've no filthy, like. I don't got Vlad bread. He's been dumping his money into stocks like his whole life. Really?

Well, especially since the Vlad TV shit about kicking off. Like, he told me the stock. market has been like extremely good to him. There is one white guy. I would love to say his name, but I can't because he's married. That's lit in my DMs and I was like, okay, you know. I would love to tell you his name like, like this, but like it's crazy though. Would you feel like you were betraying your community if you were to really end up in a serious

relationship with a white guy or is that not? Absolutely not. Do you see all the successful black women who are with white men? Like, you know, Zoe Saladonna. There's, I mean, it's just like it's so many, look at Zendaya. I mean, it's a lot of like Christina Milian said she was tired. She went got her little white boy from Paris. No.

I would not feel like I'm betraying nobody. So there's no black female Dr. Umar telling black women don't date a white man. I don't think so. I think they're telling us. Everybody in my comments say, go gray, silver, fox, hazel. Really? They'd be like, go silver fox, hazel. Wow.

And I'm like, you know, like, I don't mind, like, I don't mind white men. I like white boys. I do. Not necessarily, like, I don't want, like... We appreciate your vote of confidence, yeah. I don't know. My mom's in the military, so I'm a military girl, so I lived everywhere, so, you know, I have that, like, American girl. You know, I feel like a disproportionate percentage of the successful people that I interview

come from a military background. Really? Like, as a kid, like, just going to a lot of different places and kind of seeing the world early on, I feel like is a very strong indicator that a person is going to be successful a long time. Okay. Yeah, I came up from very strict. My mom was in the Air Force.

My dad, rest of the soul, he was in the Army. So I came from a very strict mom. I went to college. I graduated. I got a career. I got married before I had a baby. Talk about buy the book. My ass is like, by the book.

But it's also like prepared me to build a whole foundation. I moved out to LA 2001, going to Northridge, finishing my senior year. Like, how I'm going to break this entertainment shit? You know? Like, and I just had that cultural awareness from all over that I could blend and and just use my brains, you know, to get to where fuck I'm at. I got a big brain. You're doing your thing, yeah.

Thank you. Yeah. I try. I try. Yeah. For sure. Okay. In the world, just so you know, the Miltf category is like gigantic.

Like, yeah, like, I think, you know, like, especially lately, it feels like it's kind of like blown up even more. And like, I've talked to a lot of girls who, you know, when they were in their mid-20s or whatever, kind of thought that their career was like maybe fizzling. and out and then they hit that like, you know, the 30 range and they start to realize like, oh, I'm getting older. Maybe I'm putting some weight on it. Titties are getting bigger.

And like some percentage of guys love that. The milk thing. Do you notice this as a civilian as a person who's out here talking to like more normal men, but they are more appreciative of that energy? Yeah. And I also feel like I've heard guys say, I haven't heard her guys say, like, at least we know they're not I have the kids. You know, that's a thing in LA these days.

Yeah, I think I get like, since I have had a child and stuff, I think I do get, like, more established, more. I don't know. It's a different quality of men that definitely are attracted. And then, of course, I get the YNs. I get Yons more than anything. Like, I don't know if they're just the bolder ones or just the, they're going to just shoot their shot, throw something at a wall,

see if it sticks, you know what I'm saying? I love that. Hey, have you got three letters in your name? you're like, you know, Y, TN, Richie, or, you know, if you got three letters at the front of her name, slot in her DMs. That's hilarious. I mean, you did that, hey, some from y'all's post. Like I said, I got some big ones from it, so I went mad.

But I'm like, I'm equal to opportunity employers. So you have any hot, successful white men that like a little, you know, you know, a little flavor in their coffee. I mean. I got this guy, lush one that I want to introduce you to that I think you would love. You ever heard of them? No. Lush. He lays it on thick.

I like fine shit too, though. So it has to be like an attractiveness. Like I don't want big like out of shape. Like I want somebody that I mean I might be older but like come on like. No, you're compact. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like you know it's not fair.

Like why do I have to look at that? Like I'm putting in work. So. Yeah. No. I mean for sure. Like as a guy. I want to be attracted to it.

Okay. As a guy and this is one thing I've noticed as I get older is like if you're a guy and you're in good shape. that's pretty much like all you can do to be attractive. Like if you're like decent muscle base, low body fat, you dress okay. I mean, it's kind of like the whole thing

as a guy. It's like women have a million different things that they got to emphasize. The hair got to be right. The filler got to be right. The bibio, the boobs the boobs, whatever the fuck is. If you're a guy with a six pack, unless you are horrifically ugly, you're pretty much going to be considered attractive. I hear women all the time say like

oh my God, so and so is handsome and they're talking about older guys, 55, 60 years old, whatever. And I look at the guy and I'm like, he's just in shape. And that's pretty much the whole thing. Yeah. I mean, I want the light to come on upstairs too. I don't like dummies. Yeah, that helps.

Yeah, I don't like dummies. I like spiritually evolved, people emotionally evolved. So that's the thing that is the part with the Y ends that it's like, okay, I got to teach you a couple things. But hey, they're willing to learn. So sometimes I'm willing to teach. You ever been a unicorn? Never been a unicorn.

But I've definitely had a couple. the people, a unicorn is a hot bitch. Yeah, yeah, I just told me what unicorn. What? A unicorn is a hot-ass girl who joins forces with a couple to have a threesome. Right. I've got unicorns for me before. But I've never been the unicorn.

I never been the unicorn. She's laughing because she literally just, she's like, they wanted you to be the unicorn. And I was like, what's the unicorn? She's like that or, you know, the lavender marriages. Like she just puts me on all that. Are threesome is your cup of tea? No, I wouldn't say it's my cup of tea, but I'm not saying like if I was like with my person, whatever and we wanted to have a good time, like I'm not like opposed to it, you know. I have that like I might want to dominate her like bitch suck my man's type energy, you know.

But it's not like necessarily my cup of tea. But I will say like if I did watch lately, I did watch like three some like that'd probably be my favorite category. Really? Two guys, one girl? No, two girls one guy. Yeah. Okay. You never been with two guys and ones?

No. Would you? Ah, you know you love the idea of that. No, I've been poised with this question before. Just drowning in. Yeah, I just. You know it sounds fun. I just, like the in my mouth.

I just. But you also, you know, culturally, it would make you be regarded as a smut by a lot of people. Well, yeah, culturally, but just for me, like, for me, like, I just, I mean, I've seen this happened to a friend recently in mine and she became like you know it was her and two guys and I just said me like when I was like like thinking about the situation I'm like okay so he's hitting it from the back and so are they just like looking at each other like wow the dudes yeah because I'm like how is this probably don't look at each other they don't look at each other no probably look at like something else like her okay I mean she liked it it just for me I don't think like it's my if I'm

do a you know three some I just keep it like two girls like for me for me fair enough fair enough that's like that would be like the freaky part of me. Yeah. You know who Rochelle Ryan is? No. Bad, older star woman that I hooked up with recently. We did content. And it was like just that, that mothering energy is just, yeah, it was a lot.

It was a lot. It was a lot. So she was older than you? Cougar and you? You know, that was actually, I realized afterwards I think she's actually younger than me, which is crazy that I am so old that a woman can be younger than me. And in my mind, she's still like a much old. older woman.

Okay, okay. Yeah, no. Yeah, I don't know she is. But yeah, that's probably like my freak meter where it's at. Well, good to know. Okay, so what else you got going on? Anything else we know about? I kind of got to wrap this up a little bit.

Yeah, no, for sure. You know, I mean, I can find me. Check out the music. I got my own music. We were supposed to do a record together, but clearly it doesn't happen. Maybe he'll still give me a record, but probably not after the Red Light story. So, but yeah, I got, you know, check out my singles. Like, I'll be good.

Ray J is dropping our new episodes on Tronics of the final conversation with me and Maseka. Do you talk to Ray J since the whole thing went down this weekend? I talked to him on the way here as opposed to the next. You see him? He's all right. Yeah, he's all right. And he feels like he did what's right. And I've been around last Thanksgiving, we were all together. And I know how things can be when everyone's over there drinking.

And I think that, you know, in that sense, and people always say, like, I always stick up for Ray J and shit. But in that sense, I think he had the right to, like, the kids sleep like if you want to go go them kids are at the house all the time anyway so it was the point of doing that you know and so i feel like you know i don't think he was in the wrong and he stood his ground and he's standing he's still standing it right now so yeah no shout out my man ray jay but you think you should leave uh princess love alone is that they need to leave each other that's a toxic relationship it's just it's done and we're all tired the inner circle we're tired you know it's like i just ask me it's like just get divorced bro like they finally don't live in houses together like they've been

doing this whole divorce living together the whole time so you know you know know, and it's just not fair to the kids. That's why I got divorced. Like, I don't want to be toxic with my baby daddy in front of my daughter. I don't, I grew up in a domestic violence household. I don't want her to think that's okay. So it's like, you guys have to do it, you know? So, but we have much love with them.

And, I mean, hell, listen, I said I want to do Cougar Chronicles, so I'm still putting that out there. And, you know, hopefully somebody will bite. Well, a lot of people are biting, so I'm getting calls. Check out my 20V-1s. I got like two more coming up. Oh, really? It's everything entertainment, Hazel Lee.

I love it. Wow. Hazel, thank you so much. Honestly, it was very great to get connected, get to know you and everything. Thanks for having me. I'm still holding out. I think that one day you'll be our unicorn. Oh.

Me and my wife. I think one day. Put it on your Christmas wish list. Let's see what happens. I might literally do that and just see what she says. Let me know. Just slide her a note. A unicorn, that could be like very like, I won't be so attached to the moment.

So it could be fun. I don't know. Well, that's what I'm saying. No, because like you, like to do it and to have no visual record of it and just talk about it would be crazy. Because I feel like nobody would, like people would fall for it, but people would also not fall for it. Like people would like have a hard time believing we did it. Just because it would seem like there would be a video if we did do it. So if we didn't have a video, I felt like it would be.

They don't believe it happened. Yeah. It's like they believe Blueface broke up for me because he said it first. Yeah. Okay. There you go. It's all about the art of persuasion. Right.

Well, Talina to holler at me. I will. Hazel, thank you very much. No drummer, coolest podcast on the world. Like, comment, and subscribe. I definitely want to see the comments on this one. Appreciate y'all.