No Jumper - HBK Jachi on Coming up in LA, Getting Shot, Rejecting Gangbanging & More
Episode Date: January 30, 2023HBK Jachi talks about his journey to success, leaving the streets alone, label meetings and more. ----- 00:00 Intro 0:05 Jachi talks his upbringing growing up in Los Angeles and being focused on bask...etball before music 4:00 Jachi on people thinking he's from the Inland Empire and other places other than Los Angeles because of his sound 6:24 Jachi on his first time recording in the studio with RonRonDoThatSh*t 7:20 Jachi on his music career making him want to be more lowkey 11:48 Jachi on feeling discouraged early in his career when it felt like his music wasn't moving 12:58 Jachi shares how hard it is to be a rapper out of South Central that doesn't b*ng 17:38 Jachi talks always being independent despite having some meetings with labels and the importance of having an entertainment lawyer 21:10 Jachi speaks on up and coming artists that he's likes right now 26:02 Almighty on wishing more people would reach out to dope artists without caring if they had clout or not 28:15 Creative process, having chemistry with the producers, and not writing too often only punching in 31:02 Jachi on his experiences performing on a wheelchair, still going to physical therapy 35:03 Moving different since the incident 37:57 Jachi says he would diss a rapper if they dissed him and Suspect talks rap needing that competitive edge again 39:59 Jachi on how his love for music reaches wider than just Los Angeles and how women and kids are the most important fans to have 43:48 Suspect on rappers sounding like other rappers and the ones sounding Drakeo the Ruler 53:26 Jachi on why he feels like his generation is going to last longer than the generation before him and starting his school tour back up ----- NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... FOLLOW US ON SNAPCHAT FOR THE LATEST NEWS & UPDATES https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! http://www.nojumper.com/ SUBSCRIBE for new interviews (and more) weekly: http://bit.ly/nastymondayz Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We are back with another interview, Arnold Jumper.
I'm your boy Duno.
I got Almighty Sus Gurb with me.
Mm-hmm.
And we got the special.
Yeah, man.
You already know.
Say your name.
Man, this.
Y'all know what the f***ing is going on, man.
It's your boy, HBK.
Jocci and this.
Yes, sir.
How you doing today, bro?
I'm doing good, man.
How you doing?
I'm blessed.
I'm blessed.
This fool right here was like,
fool, I'm driving a hundred miles per hour,
and I'm like, okay, cool.
And then I thought about it.
I'm like, it's raining hell of hard off.
I was still doing a hundred.
I was like, don't do that, food.
I was still doing a hundred.
I ain't going to lie.
I was definitely doing it.
Because I'll be waking up late, bro.
I'll be forgetting that we be doing it.
I'll be here every day now.
So you feel me?
It's hard for me to be up in the morning, bro.
Anything before noon, it's not for me.
It's not for you.
But lately, because of the news, you've been up here, like,
in a hell early.
Hell early.
It's tiring.
It's so tiring.
And it's just, like, coming here,
like, people understand that these lights and camera,
like, will mentally drain you.
Like, when I go back home.
It's hard, bro.
I don't want to talk once I leave.
Oh, yeah, I don't want to talk.
I'm starting to be antisocial with everything else but here.
Because we talk every day, bro.
I swear to God, it's crazy.
You're tired of food forever.
Without you, how you doing, man?
How's life?
Man, life going good, man.
Just putting hell of music out, you already know,
just working, grinding.
Hell yeah.
Man, tell us about your upbringing,
where you come up with city you from, all of that.
Well, upbringing.
I'm from Westmont.
Westmont, you feel me?
I grew up in, like, Westmont area.
For the people who don't know what that is, because the L.A.
For the people who don't know, like,
streets, like, cross streets, like, normally Western, you feel
me, like near Jesse Oins.
Okay.
Like that over there in that area, you feel me?
I mean, I really, really, I grew up,
I got both my parents.
You sure I had both parents, mom and dad.
I got brothers and sisters.
I'm like the second and youngest, you feel me?
Oh, you're the single youngest.
Yeah, I really grew up on some sports.
Like, I was always in the streets,
but I was more so focused on sports at first, you feel?
I've always been around that.
Which was playing.
Playing basketball.
Oh, you're nice.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I was nice.
For you, then you would have been able to go to college for it or not?
Hell yeah, that was the goal.
That was my first thing before music.
That was the first thing I was, like, dedicated to you, you feel me?
And what made you kind of transition from that to kind of be being more focused on music
and I guess you would say the street life?
Like, really, to be honest, I really only wanted to go to college for sports.
And then like I was I was one of the kids like I didn't really have grades you
feel me in high school and shit always lowkey like on some
getting distracted type so I didn't really have grades.
So I like I start doing music you feel me I've been always the music heavy though
like you feel me but I went to go make my first song and then from there like I got good
feedback you feel me just it and then like I just fell in love with the music I just
transitioned to music and I just that was that became the my my
You feel me, like, my second life, like, the next thing, you know?
So you couldn't stay on the team because your grades were shit?
That's basically what you.
He got, like, one of the last-tasked youth stories, huh?
My mama, I'm trying to cheat and all.
I'm trying to cut.
You're trying to do whatever to stay on the team.
I graduated, though, for sure.
Hell yeah, I graduated, too.
Shout out graduated in high school.
That was a good feeling, man.
I dropped out 10 grade.
Fuck, yeah.
That's fault.
So I'm a genius.
Stop playing with me.
My mom was on my ass.
She said, I'm going to beat your
if you're going to graduate.
I said, damn.
You're like, I'm not trying to get my ass beat.
He said, I got to graduate.
You know, you get to the end of the year
and you didn't boo-h-it it all year,
and your mom will tell you like, yeah.
You know, if you're going to walk that stage,
I'm going to beat you up.
It's like two months before graduation.
Right, you're like, oh.
Yeah, good extra credit.
And I'm every day doing something.
Man, but shot on him because most people
would have been like, yeah, man,
I do you for, I'm a killer.
And he was like, no, I graduated shit.
I'm just a swaggy ass food.
And that's a good thing.
I mean, that showed a lot about you respecting your mom.
And that's a lot of things,
a lot of these artists are missing out
or just respecting anything.
It's like, you're going to have some type of structure somehow.
This fact.
They told me the same shit.
I said, fuck them.
I ain't going to lie.
Same.
But you're a podcaster now.
Yeah.
It's funny.
What's crazy is that I thought you were from the IE,
not in a disrespectful way,
but I just seen you make a gang of music
with all the AIE foods.
Sajuh, though, I was like,
I was like, oh, Josh, you're probably from the I.
That's what I thought.
No, no, for sure.
A lot of people, there ain't a lot of people.
Like, thinking I'm from the Bay Area and all that type of time.
I'm like, I'm from L.A.
bro.
It's because you don't got to, I mean, to me, you sounded like an L.A.
when I heard you.
For real?
Yeah.
Maybe because I'm from here and I rap.
I don't know he's sounding like an L.A.
to me?
I ain't going to lie.
You know how, like, low-keyed that Ie started to come out with.
When did you get hip, though, to him?
I got hip with overthinking.
It's probably like a year before you was hit.
See, they say they think that's a Bay Area song.
That that that it's the flag
You know what it is because you're not extra aggressive
The smooth you know what I'm saying
It usually be on that smooth
It's super it's like
Bro, that's exactly what I'm gonna think
They're more like the beats are mellow
They still talk shit
But the beats are way more mellow
It gives you like little bean vibes
For EBKJ Boo vibes
Like it gives you hella mellow vibes
So it's not a bad thing
It's just it's just when somebody just
Swaggy with rapping people just always gonna assume
What city they're from or where
they kick it at and shit like that
It's kind of like, bro, when I first heard a chike,
I thought he was from the Bay too, because his music was...
Everybody did.
And then I'm like, oh, yeah, he's from L.A.
I had to tell everybody, like, the homie from L.A., bro.
Everybody was saying that niggas was from the Bay.
But when you got hip to the nigga, though, like, what's on?
I ain't gonna lie.
I got hip, like, three months ago.
And I ain't gonna lie, like, shout out TikTok.
It was TikTok.
That's a fire.
TikTok would put everything on.
But I was definitely listening to overthinking and all that shit recently.
Like, oh, because I saw you at the Rucci concert,
which congratulations.
on that at the Rocks.
I've seen you there and everybody was,
and the homies, I'd be bumping the gang of shit
because I'd be trying to learn music
just because I'm up here and just, you know,
having conversations, and I'll be bumping you in the whip
and the homies be like,
if they don't know a song, they automatically
want to go to a song they know.
So when they seen you perform, they're like,
oh, that's that shit, you be bumping all the time.
I'm like, yeah.
Oh yeah, like, oh, this that shit, yeah.
So certain shit just been clicking, but,
so you do get that a lot there from the AEE?
People just assume?
Like, IE, yeah, Bayer, Bayer,
Yeah, a lot of people be telling me that for shit, yeah.
Hmm.
Well, it was the first song you ever recorded.
Like, can you remember the first time you went on the studio?
I ain't gonna lie, the first time I was ever in the studio.
I was the nigga Ron Ron.
Hmm.
Shout to my little, shout out Ron.
Yeah, shout out Ron.
This shit was like, probably like,
I think it's called Ahaz shit or something, but...
This was probably like, damn, like four, like three, four years ago or something.
I can't really remember.
But around, like, you feel me?
It was for sure.
Sure, Ron Ron.
You feel me?
This car ain't had shit.
I can't remember how I went on me.
But that shit came out cool, though, to me.
You feel me?
So, the niggas was fucking what the type of shit
that made you want to keep going?
Yeah, I posted a little snippet on the gram and shit.
They was feeling it.
Pumped the nigga up, motivated the nigga.
I'm like, I'm going to keep doing this shit.
What age with this?
This was like, I think I was like 19 or something.
Probably like 19, 20.
Oh, so you're like our age?
You're like, what, 24?
24, yeah.
Oh, you're suspecting?
Yeah.
25, 25.
Dan, we young doing this shit, huh?
But I ain't gonna like doing being that young
Like when you start rapping you get noticed
Like does it take your mind off a gang of shit?
Like like like
Like does the music kind of like either in a good way
distract you about your surroundings
And like doing shit that you used to do before music
Or does it like kind of want to make you be like
More with your family and just kick it with the boys
And you know be music
Or be more low key like what?
Who route did it take you to like the bad row
You were like oh I'm popping out so
Fuck bitching let's get high and get drunk
or let's go to the studio focus, kick it with the fam,
and do what I've been doing just now I got something
to want to make me to do better.
Hell, no, I feel like that shit made me, like, more low-key.
Because, like...
Nigger is now.
I'm like, yeah.
And I'm like an anti-niguer.
Yeah, like, I'm low-key, anti-social.
But I know with music, I can't be like that.
But still, I'm like more of a chill, low-key layback,
I don't like to really be getting in too much.
Especially in L.A., you know, it's crazy out here.
A nigga can't be really doing it.
You feel me?
I don't party or nothing like that.
Like that, I really move a purpose.
Like, I just go to shit, that video shoot, studio.
I go to shit that's purposeful, like, for music, you feel me?
That shit made me do more, be more low-key, but it kind of like took a lot of more time away from my family a little bit, just a little bit, you feel me?
I'm not always at the career, or always being able to see you go see my mom and shit like that.
But from the most part when I can, you know, I'm there, you feel me?
But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good-key shit, though.
For me, you gotta be, because when you outside too much, I feel like that, that take the lure away from your, like a nigger bring your name of it.
And I'm like, man, I see that nigga very weak at the pool party.
Like, you're not special no more.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody see you all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel like it take away from a nigger's star power from when a nigger see you every blue moon.
And like, oh, shit, that's so-and-so.
You know what I'm saying?
Exactly.
I think it's one of those things where it's like you're too accessible at some point.
That's what I'm saying.
Once you're too accessible, it's like he regular.
I see him at the pool party every Saturday
type shit, you know what I'm saying?
My father's not even excited to see
no more.
Exactly.
They're so used to it.
It's about like being more mystique.
Exactly.
You pop out like, you know,
having a misclusive shit.
Exclusive shit is definitely, like,
what was the big,
first big feature or somebody that tapped in that,
I mean, it didn't have to be like humongous,
like A-list, but like just somebody
that already had a name before you even had yours?
First.
Shit, I think maybe true card.
Fire.
Kaling for real, for a part.
One of them.
Yeah, one of them for sure.
Ful got two big names that are doing these shit.
Especially Kayling, he had, he on his way
to represent LA up the most high type of shit.
One of the best.
Shout out.
Shout out, Kian, true, for shit.
Yeah, them super.
I had tapped in with this nigga pretty early too.
I don't God.
You feel me?
This nigga for sure.
This nigga tapped in with me too.
Oh, God.
So y' y'all did a song together?
No, I just tapped in because I liked the nigg's shit.
Yeah.
It's hard.
like 2019 or like it was early oh you're so long oh you've been hell of hip done it was so long he
you feel me like niggit was a long time ago i heard that n n n niggins that shit i'm like this shit
hard posted him on my grand nigga this one to have my first page i think posted on the grand
this was before he was on this podcast yeah like way before like this like this like two years
ago when the week he went overthinking was like maybe like nigger three months four months old
it didn't even like kick off really yet facts it was like nigger we had a few thousand views i was
hit playing that shit yeah he was hit yeah he was hit
I ain't gonna lie
I barely heard that song
recently like like like
a whole week ago
I was playing
I was like deep diving in the shit
I was like trying to find
and I'm like oh he's been
I ain't gonna lie
if I thought you were younger too
I thought you were like maybe
1918 facts
because the nigga just came out
yeah and I'm like
oh he really doing this shit
but I have a
my fucking like
like my younger homies
are like 16 17
they're like obsessed when you rap
and they be bumping your shit
heavy like
I'm like
who do
because they're the ones
that play me a song
and I was like
who's it
And they're like, oh, bro, he got songs with S5 and, and, and, like, the hummies just be on it.
You know, they be on their shit.
And I'll be like, damn, that's hard.
So I thought you were young.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah, no, for sure.
A lot of people would be thinking I'm young, bro.
I'd be like, nah.
I just, feel me?
I just really start hitting the scenes today, like, that's like you said.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Nigger been out of, though.
I ain't gonna lie.
Right.
Nigger just started getting some notoriety as of recently.
So a nigga, a nigga, think.
that a nigga knew when he said he already had some shit
like four years ago type shit.
Yeah, for sure.
For how hard was it the first couple years
when there wasn't really no momentum going?
I said, oh, I ain't like,
so that shit made you want to quit.
Discouraging when nobody...
Discouraging.
Because you put your whole soul into this shit,
you feel of you?
So when it's like, when you're not really seeing
another, like, you're kind of discouraging a nigga
sometimes.
I ain't a lie, I just...
I ain't really like...
I had my...
I had niggas around me that kind of kept the nigga motivated, too.
Like, you feel me?
So I kind of never really, like...
was like uh fully fully off the rap yeah i always was like all right i probably had that day in
days where i'm like i'm gonna quit like fuck this shit i ain't saying nothing niggas just dropping for
nothing niggins just doing this shit for nothing but you feel me niggas just find a way to just
that motivation just keep a nigga going they probably make some make some hard shit the next day like
oh yeah right back in this bitch oh excuse me i did you ever think you was gonna crack or
was you just playing around with it still at that point uh i ain't a lot always had a feeling that i would
Like, I would crack.
I don't lie.
Because, like, I like music, bro.
Like, once I found out, I could really make music.
I just, like, oh, yeah, like, I could, you feel in me?
Right.
I have faith in myself, for sure.
Like, I could do something with it for sure, sure.
How hard is it being a rapper from South Central?
It's hard.
Then, like, like.
That don't gang bang at that.
It's still a policy.
Because, nigga, that's a whole, that's a whole other realm.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, how hard is it because of the fact that you're young, you're kind of
mellow, you're not like, you're talking crazy shit, but it's more swaggy.
Like, yo, your shit got swag.
It's not like, you're not like, yeah, I kill everybody in their mama, bow, bow,
you know, it's like, it's just a little more player.
You're a low-key, you're just a swaggy-ass fool, you know what I mean?
So, our heart is it when motherfuckers be expecting to be like this super loud mouth crazy.
And you're just like, bro, I'm chilling, making music.
Like, leave me the fuck alone type shit.
Yeah, no, it's especially hard.
It's hard out here in L.A., especially.
You can't miss a lot of politics.
A lot of people think you gang bang.
Where are he from?
That's the first question.
Where are you from?
Mm-hmm.
And then when you say Westmont,
they're going to want to put you
in a whole group of some shit
and it's like, that's an area.
Like, it's an area, yeah.
That's just, you feel me?
You know, like between Nom and Manny and Wandskrieg?
That's just the area.
You feel me?
Like, you don't got a game ban to be from an area.
Nah, facts, 100%.
Exactly.
So that's, it's a hell of a lot of that shit going on.
But nah, shit, really?
Shit, niggas just be just about just staying focused.
You feel me?
I don't mean.
How do people that you went to high school with the middle school with that you like maybe
Ceres around, they'd be thinking like, oh, you're too boogey now, food type shit.
You ever get that card pulled on you?
Uh, hell yeah.
No, I don't even be that though.
Nika be working.
I be so locked in on this shit.
Like, you don't even be that, like, trying to be boojuring.
And I ain't the type though.
If I know you, I know you, like, whatever.
Like, I'm, niggas see me all the time.
They like, feel me?
A lot of people think that though.
And then when they see me, that, oh, no, he's, he cool as a bitch.
Like, he's not even on that.
Like, no, I don't be on that, bro.
Like, hell no.
But I have, for sure, had a lot of people, like, you feel me?
You went boozy on a nigga?
Like, you start rapping, nigga.
Right.
Like, no, it ain't even like that.
It ain't nothing like that.
You know, I'm just focusing.
Right now, you don't make sense in my life type of shit.
Yeah, like, no, you feel me?
Yeah, for sure, niggas just focus.
You feel me?
I'm so focused.
Like, they don't beat out a nigga trying to be boozy or act a certain way.
Like, if I see you as love, if I get in contact his love, like my, you know, the
nigga just trying to.
That's fire, hell yeah.
If a nigga not adding to the pot
What the fuck we're gonna be hanging around for?
I don't got free time,
I'm trying to do shit
It's all love,
For real.
It's always love,
Yeah, yeah, I always love.
If you can't make beats,
engineer, got a studio,
nigga, you're not fend to be with a nigga
every day, bro.
Make clothes, do something.
Pick up the camera.
You gotta do something, bro.
You gotta be doing.
If you're not an asset,
you're a liability, bro.
Yeah, no cap.
What is you doing?
If you're not doing something,
nigga, go home.
Floating, you're just floating.
Yeah, be a little.
barber or something.
Something, my nigga.
You gotta be able to do something.
Be the driver.
Something, nigga.
No cap.
Look at your license.
You could try to this win.
Do something, bro.
That shit gives me so much anxiety
where rappers be like,
hey, bro,
if I need a driver today,
money ready, I'm like,
motherfucker, just go get a license.
It makes like so much more easier.
I don't go on,
but I'm still driving.
I don't go fuck about none of that shit.
He's still driving.
I'm driving.
What's the biggest change
you've seen in your life
from starting this shit?
The biggest change?
Uh,
Like, probably like how people like, look at a nigga, I guess.
Probably like that.
And, uh, shit, for sure, a nigga not, like, really wanted for nothing like I was.
Like, you feel me?
Like, I didn't have, like, plenty, like, you know, we didn't have, we didn't did shit
to get money plenty of times, but it's like now I'm at a point to where I actually make
money off music and I, I ain't really got to do no, none of that, like, you know.
Nothing excessive.
You don't got to do no extracurricular activity to just, just, like, just, my
So I feel like my life more smoother now.
Like, I ain't really got to worry about none of that.
You feel me?
I could just focus on music and really, you know, focus on other shit too, not just music,
but like merch, you know, whatever else that's, like, positive shit, you feel me?
I don't really got to do no crazy shit, so it's better like that.
Like, I feel like life shit.
Like, that's probably like the biggest thing, like, you feel me?
Nick ain't gotta take risk to get money no more.
Yeah, n'n't got to take risk, you know, and then like how people look at me, like,
like, they kind of like, I influence.
Like the influence, you feel like me?
So, probably those two right there.
How did your family see it?
Like for your siblings?
Yeah, my family.
I was just for the mention that.
But yeah, like, my mom, like, she excited about this shit.
Like, she's seeing what's going on.
Like, all my family, they're excited.
Like, oh, you come do this, come do that, come take your picture.
They're going to go crazy at school and like just cousins.
Like, everybody just, you feel me, they, they're hip, they're excited.
I love it though.
Like, the energy is like, that shit is crazy.
That shit is a great feeling.
It's different.
Because at first they're going to tell you
because, nigga, I remember, bro.
Before I was rapping, every day, get a job.
What you doing?
Do something with your fucking life.
What are you doing?
Every day, nigga, what are you doing?
I remember my first music video I went viral
and I ain't heard.
What are you doing?
In seven years, that shit disappeared.
Keep going.
Now you keep doing it.
Exactly.
Ain't no more.
But now they want to give you rides, places.
My mom would be dad.
She let me leave the house with an ugly shirt.
She'd be like, you got to look up for the cameras.
Right.
Like, no, when it first started happening, she was like, irony and everything.
Now, she's a little more used to it, but she was like, you got to, like, she was super on it.
That's funny.
That's funny.
Yeah, my mom's being on it.
She'd be trying to make merch.
I'd be like, man, could go ahead.
Like, I do your thing, man.
I love it.
Like, she's got the socks going.
Like, she's really into it, trying to be at all the shows, front row.
She's coming to the show.
Are you here for my son?
Like, she, yeah, moms on it.
Yeah, but that's a good feeling, though, huh?
You know, that's a good feeling.
Hell yeah, man.
That shit.
That shit keep a nigga going, bro.
You ever been, like, signed to anything
or, like, a production company or, like, management
group or anything like that?
Nope.
Nah?
No, I ain't never, I've always been independent.
Just, I don't know.
It's really.
I ain't ever been signed.
That's right.
Before I have they offered you?
I talked to a couple, I talked to a couple labels.
What are the couple?
I talked to Empire.
Of course.
Yeah, of course.
They on it.
They on it.
They on it.
They school.
I can't even remember.
I talked to a couple people, though.
You feel me?
Yeah.
Sure, but.
The situation.
Yeah, the situation is when I ain't really like, you know,
what the nigg was hearing and shit,
and they didn't really go through.
So I'm like, I'm just independent.
You feel me?
I'm just, you know, I'll take that route.
When it's time, when it's time and time.
How scary is that?
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
How scary is that, though, when you, like, get a paper and I'm not saying you're done,
but they be using words that would fuck you over
because you don't understand the meaning behind.
What was that word that means forever?
That, that, for a lot of,
labels use?
You mean like
You know what I'm talking about, right?
I do know what you're talking about.
It's like the word that they got like a couple rappers with?
Oh, uh, damn.
Perpetuity?
Yeah, type of shit.
No, no.
Is that the word?
I don't think so.
It might be.
There's a word, the one that means like forever?
Or perpetuity.
Yeah, and I'll be like, I'm like, they got you for what?
They'd be like, yeah, that shit meant forever.
I didn't look it up.
I thought it meant like certain type of percentages.
I'm like, goddamn.
A lot of labels, they be trying to like keep your masters too.
The deals be cool, but they just want your masters or, like, it just be certain shit that may not, that one or two things or a couple things or whatever that may not be like, ah.
It would have went good, but.
Facts.
Or whatever.
Yeah.
That's why I got to build that leverage first, and then you're going to make them demand.
Exactly.
You get the demand.
Your demand becomes higher.
Exactly.
You build your leverage.
That's when you kick your feet up in that motherfucker and be like, nigga, we're going to do X, Y, and Z if you all want me and this motherfucker.
But when you're still getting your shit together, you kind of just got to either go independent or take whatever they.
give you.
Yeah, fact.
No crap.
Yeah.
But desperate time, me for desperate means.
So that's good, though.
Even though you weren't, like, seeing so much positive shit, it was like, I'm
still going to wait.
Like, you waited this shit out because that shit could have gone left.
That's a good thing about getting a lawyer, too, like.
Oh, shit.
You're an entertainment lawyer.
Yeah.
Yeah, facts.
Because you're not going, nigga not going to know.
What the fuck.
None of that shit said.
Nick are going to see the dollar sign.
The dollar amounts on that motherfucking.
They don't see the money.
Yeah, come on.
Facts.
Like, nah, no.
Check and see.
what they want you to do, my boy.
That part.
Is it any up-and-coming niggas in the city that you fuck with?
Like, that's not already owned,
but just like,
niggas that surround, like,
your level type shit you feel like
or, like, that surround you that you fuck with.
Like, um,
like doing music with wise.
Type shit.
I want to say,
Project Baby Twain.
Me and him got a couple songs.
Shout out to it.
Oh, yeah, shout out.
Brother and Wattie.
Okay.
Yeah.
Petty, Petty.
Shout out Petty, Petty.
You've been doing this shit for me and him.
for a while.
Shout out, Petty, petty.
I'm trying to see.
I'm trying to, it's so many, it's so many, I ain't
know, it's so many, like, artists that's been popping out
in the city, low-key, like, city's starting to try to get up there a little bit, but
them too, for the most part of the name, you feel me?
I'm trying to think of a couple more people.
For you, for like, South Central's coming back a little bit?
I mean, he's always been, their rap's always gonna be, but it's, lately it's been, like,
the Compton, the Inglewoods, it's, kind of like, not the outskirts, but just,
other cities, but South Central, like the Normandy, Vermont babies, the Western baby,
you think it's slowly coming back?
Slowly, yeah, slowly, for sure.
Because you were part of the era that was cracking.
Yeah.
And it was only a handful of us, so you had to listen to us.
Yeah.
It was only four or five of us.
It wasn't cool to rap, Loekeek back then.
Facts.
Like, it was...
It was harder to get deals, too.
They wasn't just passing out deals when we first started.
Hell no.
Like, it took the next wave, like, shorelining them started with that shit.
or a niggas started getting real deals.
So you think like L.A. started coming back slowly when all those barriers got broken
by like, to me, yeah.
Because we figured out we didn't need the old niggas.
We didn't know what to do.
There wasn't no distro kids yet, none of that.
We didn't know what the fuck to do, bro?
We just was shooting shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Now I feel like it's a little more established for the young niggas coming through
like Jotching and all these niggas.
Now, niggas, no, I could go to distro kid.
I could get my bread.
Nigger, once I get to a certain point, these labels, they go hit me.
Like it's different, bro
When we first came out
Nick it wasn't a fucking label's calling
And we were some of the biggest shit cracking
It took some little other shit
You know what I'm saying
For niggas to really start to get their barriers in this shit
I say Shoreline was one of the first
niggas that came from the new wave
After Problem AD
Shorline, Draco, O3Grito
Facts
Them was the niggas who
I think Shoreline might have been the first one
With the deal but Shoreline
Drakeo and then Grito
And then after that
Oh they was passing out
there was left and right.
Man, that was a...
They brought the light to the city for real.
That was a crazy wave.
Mm-hmm.
And that's a way that even went underrated.
Like, even you're...
Because we were seeing your era
because I wanted to see...
That's the shit of high school.
But like, right...
That was my era.
Yeah, but like, right before, like,
y'all was killing shit,
but I do feel like slowly,
it kind of just slowly died down.
You know what I mean?
And it got picked up again,
but you guys are picking it up again,
just bringing it like, like...
Bro, when the, like,
obviously, yes, there's rappers
from, like, Western, Normandy,
but just South Central as a whole,
I feel like it slowed down.
Yeah.
And then it started being around the cities.
Like, right now, if we're being honest,
like, it's like, yeah, doc.
It's a lot of them.
Bro, wait, we was talking about that shit.
For what do we need to be, J.I. Ben?
Yeah.
We told J.I.B.S. man, y'all got it right now, dog.
And then a lot of them niggas don't even know that they're from the IE.
They think they're just L.A. rappers.
Like, a lot of them niggas is I.E. rappers.
Speaking on some I.E. rappers.
I'm so glad you did that.
I see my nigger drop some hot shit.
I saw you drop some hot shit
and you was on some niggins' heads
could you speak on it?
Man, I'm shit
I'm just...
Wait, I'm not him to listen
You don't know what's going on?
See, this is why I gotta be here
for these interviews.
That's why I see to come.
I'm really...
Because you are a messy motherfucker.
It's not that.
I just know what's going on in the city.
Hey, can I get some tissue real quick?
I know what's going on.
You feel me?
I'll be peeping.
This is my nicket, bro.
I listen to all his shit
so I know what's going on.
So tell her, and they want to let him...
And they won't let him run it back.
I just don't know if niggas wanna, you feel me speak on that shit.
I mean, if you got a song, I can talk about it.
We ain't, look, we ain't gonna speak on it.
We just gonna put it in the music.
You see, that's why you gotta ask.
But if you know, you know.
You just coming at the head?
You know, you know for shit, so.
No, it ain't like, if you know, you for sure, no.
Okay, yeah.
Shout out of the I.
Yeah, no, no, it's not some IE shit.
It's just some personal shit that he got going.
Like, don't try to make it like that.
No, no, no, no.
No, because I'm saying is, what I'm saying is,
no, no, no, shit, no, shit.
But I like how you were like, it's, I eat.
Nah, like, I'm not trying to do that, you're funny.
But I'm like, because it was a pivot.
You know what I'm saying?
Couple of me, yeah.
Nah, but South Central's definitely, like, getting his rise again
where it's like, yeah, hell, yeah.
Like, I'm pretty sure you wish there was more of you guys back in your,
like, when you were doing it,
there was people like Jachi just fucking doing their shit.
And you guys would have been a little.
I wish it was more niggas, like, who, who reach,
out. Like, you know what I'm saying? As soon as I heard his music, bro, I didn't care
about the followers. I didn't give a fuck about none of that. I heard something. I'm like,
this nigga fin to be next. Yeah, niggins don't be on that. Niggins don't be on genuine,
like, shit. You feel me? You feel me? You feel me? You feel me more about
clout. That part. If a nigga crack in, I'm like, this nigga can't. I'm like, this
nigga hard. Yeah, like, you are. Yeah, like, you are. Real shit, because I feel like
enough niggas didn't do that, bro. When me and Snow came out,
niggas was all up in our d'n. I'm talking about this shit hard as fuck. But we'll see
them niggas on mailroads and they'll be like,
we focus on shit. But niggas will
not be trying to give you no features. Niggas
won't show you no love on the gram, nothing, but
they know, yo, they know what's going on
and I don't appreciate that. So you feel
me, I think it's different now with the other nigs
that's coming up because I think niggas be
reaching out, you know what I'm saying? Like niggas be hitting them. Like
he said, Kailan hit him. Who's what you said?
True car hit him. Like, you feel me, it's different now.
We're starting to reach out to the next
niggas that's coming up and starting to fuck with him.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
And also, I think it's like an era where everybody's more cool and I'm like, yeah, there's beef.
They're always going to be that.
We're from LA.
That shit comes.
You're born and ready.
So somebody doesn't like somebody all the time.
But like you connect them with like, I even, I haven't seen you.
You got like a song with cool Corleone.
You got a song with fucking S5, Art Through the Chili, man.
You got all these that back then, like if like, like, like fucking suspect wasn't making a song with a gang of people.
You're right.
It was just him and Frosty and it was like,
well, we don't fuck with nobody else because we're cool,
so it's just like, uh, but everybody was kind of
like a distance with each other, you know what I mean?
That's facts.
That's facts.
No, that's real, because everybody in their own camps
felt like that was the shit and fuck them.
You feel me, but one.
But that's because you all realize we was kids, bro.
I was like 17.
Of course I was going to be like, fuck them.
They got woke up famous one day.
Fuck them.
I'm a dumb-ass teenager.
You feel me, but when you get a little older,
you realize, bro, you need networking skills.
You got to fuck with the motherfuckers in your city
because nigga out of build a bigger.
me, it'll be beneficial for everybody.
Yeah, type shit.
Sure.
And I, he reaching out.
Expanding, you feel me.
Trying to make it bigger than what it already is.
Fawkes.
You feel me?
With the right niggas though.
That's some real shit.
Because niggas be weird these days.
Yeah, it'd be a lot of shit going on.
And what's like the process for you, like at a studio session or how you drop an album
or a tape?
What do you mean?
What's your studio pack when you hit the booth?
Studio pack?
Yeah.
I be having my producer with me.
I found you right there.
My nigga, no limit Austin.
I don't know that.
Why, I didn't know that?
That's crazy as fuck.
Oh, God, I know that.
That's crazy.
That just made me look real bushy.
I fuck with gang.
I didn't even know that was him, bro.
Yeah, you're a piece of shit.
Fuck you.
That nigga always is already with me, but yeah, usually shit.
We cook up together.
He'd cook some shit up.
He hard.
Or I fuck with different producers.
They'd be sending me shit.
I ain't a lot.
I got millions of beats.
It'd be hard.
I'd be like, I really just, you feel?
You feel?
He's just hitting him.
Because I know he, he, he,
We got chemistry.
He already know what you're looking for in the sound.
But I'll take out other niggas beats some time.
Go to the studio.
Shit, make sure I got some weed for show and shit.
Get my mind going.
The nigga lists to some beats.
Pulling in the motherfuckers on, I start just go.
I go freestyle.
You feel what I mean?
So you don't write?
Nah, maybe sometimes if I had to, like,
if I had to write a bar or two or something,
just if I think of some shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Can't really.
But, nah, for the most part,
I'm punching in.
I'm freestyling the whole time.
That's always been like, when I see foods do that, I'm like,
I was like, you know you're working way harder now right now
because you're just like, wait and then give you a second.
But then I'd be like, but then I also understand that that's your process.
That's just how you're more comfortable making music.
I think it's only harder for the engineer.
It's really less work.
It's really harder for the engineer.
For us, nigga.
Hey, shout out to the engineers.
Like, y'all needs, man.
Punching in, it's hard for the engineer.
And the producers, the engineers need more credit because they play a lot.
a big part in a lot of shit, you feel me?
The sound, without that sound, there's no song.
Facts.
Shit.
So, you feel me?
So yeah, for sure, shout out them.
Shout out my nigga, no lemma, Austin, for sure.
I got right there, don't me.
That nigga, shh, when's we locked in,
it just went crazy from there, but.
Far.
No, for sure, though.
Fug-in- What was it?
How was your first time performing?
First time performing?
Was that shit at some ratchet party and saw something interesting with?
Uh, damn.
What was my, I can't, I perform.
and perform at some ratchet-ass party.
It was the first time.
That's fire.
The first time I performed that shit.
I think it probably was like a small little party or something.
Probably there was some shit.
Were you on your wheelchair at the time when you first before?
That was my first one.
I was like one of the first performances that I did.
I ain't going to lie.
That's your one viral on TikTok.
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh, you're talking about two for real day.
No, that one went crazy too, but I seen a TikTok before that where it was dark
and the lights were out and they were going crazy.
Oh, yeah.
And you talked about, oh, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
And you were like that.
I was like, that was like my fourth day.
Yeah, yeah, fuck.
And you were, like, kind of like, standing on it.
Like, you were kind of, like,
trying to pick yourself up in the crowd with your seeing
and you kept looking back at your homie.
Like, my fuck, I'm tired doing this.
Oh, yeah, no, yeah, you're talking about you.
That's two for real day.
Oh, okay, okay, so I wasn't two for a day with the kids, yeah.
Yeah, I was trying to stand up on the wheelchair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I was like, and I was like, seeing you, like,
because I don't know your situation, I mean,
I don't know if you want to talk about it,
but seeing you still want to perform and do this shit.
And there was multiple of it.
There was one when you were, like, I think, like, at a party,
and then the two for real day right there in common,
I was like, damn, that's good, because the kids knew everything.
Everybody knew everything was word for word, pow, pow.
But I'm pretty sure they were tripping that you were on the wheelchair.
That shit kind of trim me out, bro.
The feeling is amazing, though.
It's so crazy.
It's hard to describe a feeling when you hit the stage and they just know your shit.
Yeah, it was, like, crazy.
Like, they knew that word for word, bro.
Like, as soon as I start rapping, I'm like, oh,
they shock me, like, oh, I just start going with them.
like turned up with them like just feeling that energy bro it's just crazy yeah like and then like
those a couple of them performances too was days after I got shot so I was low key in pain I'd
take some ads pop some ads then go go go dug it off but I wanted to do it though you see me I wanted to
for sure say can you written it through the night you got shot so you don't got to give like super
details but like what was the feeling like when you got shot did he feel like you were dying
To be honest, I ain't even feel it.
Like, when I first got shot, I didn't really feel it.
I kept running.
So you was outside?
Yeah, I was outside, yeah.
Then I noticed I had some, I had the Supreme Forces on.
I have blood coming through my shoes.
Then that's when I love keep starting it.
Oh, because you saw the blood.
I mean, the blood here.
I start slowing down.
Like, when I'm running, I start slowing down.
Like, ooh, I'm hit.
That's when I start feeling it.
But yeah, I didn't really feel it.
I don't know, that shit.
Shit, really, he was just trying to, like, get away.
I got caught up in a little situation, you feel me?
Yeah.
Unfortunately, but you know, it ain't nothing.
It's still right here and all that, so, but, you know, things happen, you feel me?
But to describe that, you know, that's how, that's the only way I could describe it.
Like, I didn't really feel it until afterwards.
It was burning inside?
Yeah, like a little burn.
That's exactly how you feel.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, when I got shot, I didn't go to the hospital to two hours.
later. I didn't think I even got signed and they were like the bullet's in there
dog. I was like, oh, fuck. No, that was this
saying, bro. Something happened with me on stage. I didn't even know
that I got back in the car left and then like,
it's a rip on your jean. And I'm like, fuck you mean. Same shit. I check his
blood all on my jean. I'm like, oh. You're generally running.
So like, you don't feel it. A lot of times
you don't really feel. You're just, you're going to feel or something
hits you, but you're not going to, it's not going to hurt
necessarily if you understand. I'm saying. Yeah, no, no,
I definitely get what you're saying. It's like
you're so focused on trying to get away
that you didn't feel it right there.
But then the minute you kind of knew you were like in a safe space, you paid attention.
And it was like, where did you get shot exactly?
In both my feet.
Damn, I got shot in the foot, too, dog.
That shit weak.
My bullet's still in there.
Yeah, I got a couple small fragments.
Yeah, yeah, me too.
It gets cold.
I mean, when they get cold.
When they get cold, you can fill it on the floor?
I ain't know a lot.
Did they tell you, like, we could take out the fragment, but we got to chop something off?
Nah, they didn't tell me that.
I would have been like, hell no.
No, that's the day.
But they told me that they're like, hey, they're like, bro, you got a main one.
that's right there.
It's not going to bug you, but when it gets cold,
you might feel it or something,
but they're like,
we could take it out,
but we just got to top off your toe.
Like, your big toe's kind of like connected.
And I was like, nah, I'm cool.
I'll deal with that.
It's all right.
I'll be okay.
Oh, my toe.
I mean, that's your balance.
People don't know these.
Facts.
Without your toes, it's over with.
Yeah, I ain't a lot because that shit fucked up.
I still, like, my shit still,
loki, not 100% even.
My toes are still stiff, loki.
They can't ball number.
Fuck.
Can't really ball.
I'm about to go to,
I got physical therapy.
They just, you know, I had to go back and get, but for the most part, my wounds healed up and shit, everything.
They look like scabs and healed up and everything, but it's still kind of a little hurt, little pressure came all the way, really can't run.
Yeah.
Like, all the way, you feel me, bend it.
But what was your mom's reaction, like?
How about I was going to say?
The way you talk about her, I'm like, I know she screamed at you at the hospital.
Nah, no, no, no.
She didn't even, like, she didn't even scream at me, like.
She was just more worried?
Yeah, more worried, yeah.
She didn't stream at me, though.
She was more worried.
She was hella worried.
They still be worried.
I thought that shit, like, four months ago.
I feel you, though.
But that's just a parent's energy, though.
That shit, fool?
Getting shot at.
I only got grazed on my leg, but niggas, the same shit.
I felt it.
Like, niggins, she was hot.
Like, you feel me?
No cap, but I felt like the inside of my shit was burning,
nigger.
That's ain't none to play with for sure.
Nah, hell, bro, I feel you.
And even with, like, even like, with your feed dog,
like, we walk on these motherfuckers.
So when I got sawbro, it felt weird.
Like, if I hit the cow.
Outerong, like while walking, my whole shit just start hurting or something.
So it was bad, dog.
So I totally understand you were feeling.
And I walk on the, I got shot in the, like, the middle.
So I can't press on it.
I got to walk on the side of my feet.
Man, creasing all your shoes, huh?
All that shit.
The forces be killing a nigga sometime.
That's why I be wearing them, like, loosening the motherfuckers up.
Hell yeah.
Were you popping, like, narcos and shit when you got set?
Hell, yeah.
Perkins and narcos.
For sure, sure.
I ain't know why.
Did that shit make you look at life different, getting popped?
It's normal when we come from.
It didn't make me look at life different, but, like, you know, I mean, like, I'd be more.
Or, like, move different, like, like, for yourself, like, not look at life, like, damn, what is life?
Because, you know, we see a nigga get shot every day.
Like, yeah, this shit.
It's real.
It could really happen to it.
It could really happen.
Yeah, no matter what the situation is, whatever, you know, it has to be no game-banging or whatever.
You could be anywhere, anytime and some shit pop-off.
Whatever the situation is, this shit real.
So, yeah, for sure, may the nigga be more aware and more cautious and move more smarter,
you feel me, and just, you feel me, pay more attention to certain things, you feel me?
Man, we're from L.A., bro.
Skaters get shot.
Frag.
That's what I'm saying.
The shit hell of normal.
You could be at the wrong party.
You get shot on the arm, either trying to get the rapper behind you or the person behind you.
Frag.
Bullets ain't got no names, d'n't got no fucking names.
No name.
For sure.
So, yeah.
Made a nigga think about that more.
Bullets hang out.
Like, whatever, just be more smarter, bro.
Anything can happen any time.
Fuck that.
What a guy, bro.
Have you made a song about you getting shot?
Not necessarily, not.
You definitely got to make a song.
You know what I mean?
If I'm a man, fuck, it's been shot.
They're going to feel it?
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I probably said a little something,
but I can't really think if I did.
Specifically?
Yeah, specifically.
What about for a girl?
For a song about a girl?
Yeah.
Yeah, I made a couple of, I got a couple of joints.
For the gherbs.
Yeah, you got songs for the scoops.
For the scoops.
That's right.
For the sclite, man.
If a nigga did you, you gonna diss him back?
Yeah.
Nah, I mean.
Nah, but if he dissed you with the title on their name.
Yeah.
Like, like, like, like for your chaucy this.
Yeah, probably, yeah, that's, yeah.
But if a nigga throw some shots, I might, I might say, I'm gonna, you,
and I, that's the thing about niggas.
Like, you feel me?
You feel me? Sometimes they'll say something and they won't know that you know or whatever that that is
Right for them yeah so I don't you know I say I'll throw my little shots or whatever but you know
Just put it in the music bro just but I ain't you feel me yeah but you're not making full-blown
songs you know he is I I fay I dissed the nigga I didn't get a fuck
I disneyed a acting the guy on the video all right I'm a dissing it is you know how many this songs it is you know how many this songs I feel like we need that back in rap for
Food? Like, it ain't nothing wrong with dissing the nigger, bro.
Like, it's too much where you want to disson a nigga and then I gotta shoot you.
Like, if you send something in the music, nigga, you dissing a nigga back, leave it at that.
It's rap, fool?
Niggas don't know how to separate that shit.
No, but that also comes from your love for battle rap.
Yeah, I love rap, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
I love...
I don't know what it is about me and battle rap.
I do not watch that.
And it's not even just battle rap.
I just love competing and rapping.
That's what it is.
It's not even so much batter rap because I don't even know the news.
battle rappers. I'm gonna keep it up.
You know what I'm saying.
Your history, like...
Yeah, just how I grew up.
I just like competitive rapping.
I felt like the competition is gone.
Nobody want to be better than nobody.
Niggas want to be like niggas.
Yeah.
You feel me?
Nah, I feel that.
Nobody want to be the hardest nigga.
They just want to be like the next nigga.
I swear I feel that with my soul, because there's so many, yeah, you...
Nobody want to be better than next nigga.
Not in the bad way.
Yeah.
It just, Nick, I'm better than you.
Yeah, you ain't got to...
You feel me?
Okay, so.
Too many niggas who sound like other niggas.
And I say that to say, this one of the only new niggas in the city, bro, who don't sound like nobody.
But also, I'm assuming that your love for music is not just that late.
You have, like, an expansion of love for music.
Like, I'm pretty sure you listen to motherfuckers from Atlanta, Houston.
No, I hear you.
I listen to, I just remakes a scissors song.
See what I mean?
Like, motherfuckers ain't listening to Cizzer.
You feel?
Me, Cesar got hos.
That means he got hos.
You know what I mean?
I just, no, for sure the holes, no, what?
Niggas better get hip, man, niggins about to get hip.
They'll take these girls, the females, man, once they get a ho-
They take you to the sky, bro.
The kids and the females, bro.
Don't I say that all the time?
Kids and females, grown men got egos.
Once they get in their hands, it's no longer.
Bro, grown men have egos.
Females and kids don't have egos.
They will love you, cherish you, buy your shit, buy your merch, come to your shows.
scream at you when they see you pass out a grown-ass mirror.
Every time I see a grown-ass man,
hey, my nigga, no dick riding, but I fuck with you.
Like, bro, you didn't mean, say no kelp, dude.
You didn't have to say that.
You didn't have to say that.
Just say you fuck with a nigga.
I'm just saying, you feel me, a female in the kid,
they're not going to do that.
They just don't love you, bro.
I totally feel that.
Nikes out of egos.
But you're all so young, food, so it's like, yeah,
you feel me, you be popping your shit a little different.
But back to this disson.
Like, like, rap dissing.
Like, you'll be okay with, like, I don't know,
I'm just throwing a random name out there.
Let's just say like, okay, let's just say
like Arthur the Chili Man. He just makes a song
calling motherfuckers out where he's going bar
for bar. You'll be okay with that?
Like he just like, like, and not
just you, but let's just say he calls out
all the young motherfuckers coming up.
You, King Monson and Jen. Let's just say everybody.
He calls out the baby song. Everybody, he just calls everybody out.
Like on some cool shit.
Like on some like, I rap better than you motherfuckers.
Let me see what you could do on this beat.
You won't take it personal?
Maybe. I mean, I ain't, you feel me?
Yeah, from a distance. I can happen, probably, but...
Yeah.
I wasn't even in the studio or nothing like that. I ain't trying to do nothing that.
Oh, okay.
I feel that.
But you definitely disliked.
I'm like, I'm like, this the fuck out.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Bigger say, my name in the song, and I feel like it depends on who you are, though.
Like, if I know you and I fucked with you and you did some weird shit, I'm dissing you.
No, no, for sure.
I'm saying, though, like, it ain't going to be like no...
No, but I'm talking about, like,
competitive. Okay, so who's
done it before? There's a rapper
that called out everybody. You're talking about
Rico Reckless. RICO reckless did
something like, who shot you,
and he put all the niggas on his cover, and
there was like babies with the faces of like
Kodak. But it was
some rap shit. But it was some rap shit.
He had them as babies, as they face
on it on a mixtape, just like calling
niggas out on some rap shit.
I don't know. Like, nah, I don't really.
He's not me. That's not me. That's not me.
That's a valid thing. That's what
I'm saying, like, certain shit is for certain rappers.
That's when you were like, I don't really be watching battle rap and shit like that.
Yeah.
So I totally understand that.
But like, it's an example, like, if somebody, let's just say I'm a rapper, right?
And I were to call out, there's a couple rappers here, A.D. Lush and Almighty and whoever being here with us.
No, yeah.
And it's like some competitiveness where it's like.
You feel me like?
So that's what I meant.
So my fight, I'm worried about.
But that's what I meant.
I'm not talking about slide no niggas.
Yeah.
No, I'm talking about like, when I see you this.
Like that's some weirdo shit.
I'm talking about like, nigga, you might throw a little couple shots,
but I'm really showing you I'm rapping better than you.
And then it's like love.
Like, let me show what you can do now.
Like the response.
It's more of a battle rap, yes.
I guess I worded it wrong.
I'm off of y'all.
That's cool.
Yeah, I like, I fuck with that.
You feel like me?
You got to have any competition back in rap, bro.
These niggas want to sound like their favorite rapper.
They want to look like them, sound like them, act like them,
be him.
It'd be a whole recreation of the next nigga.
And I'd be like, this is why I can't listen to you,
niggas.
Because you niggas sound like the niggas that I started rapping with.
What the fuck going on?
Now, that's why when he came out, I'm like, this shit stand out.
Because all these other niggas, I'm not going to say no names.
All these other niggas sound like a form of Drakeo, Ralphie, niggas, no, me, all these niggas.
He knows what, s'fool.
All these niggas sound like them for, bro.
For sure.
For sure.
Everybody wanted to be like Draco.
That one is the craziest one.
Facts.
Man, I heard a song the other day, and I was like, and the homie's like, that's not
Drake.
I was like, oh, yeah.
I can't.
Ain't nobody sound like Draco, but Drake.
but it's just a lot of,
he had a, like, say, beat selection
and it's kind of creepy.
I didn't hurt niggas being a track
talking about on the game, over.
Like, come on, bro.
Nigger's still your whole, man,
all type of shit, bro.
So it's like, when the nigger be different,
I fuck with it.
That's why I like your shit.
I feel like it's cool to have influences, bro.
Most definitely.
Right, just don't take a nigger shit, though.
Don't just take a nigger shit.
Like, try to make your own shit.
Like, try to make it your way.
Right.
Everybody's inspired by something.
Most definitely.
You feel me?
every great inventor was inspired by the previous one,
but they was a great inventor because they made a little tweak
to whatever they was inspired by and made it thin.
Okay, so who are your kids?
You know who my kids is, nigga.
You know who my kids is, me.
I'm trying to have a break my wife.
Who sees over in the moment?
You know who my kid is, bro.
But Josh, give me your top...
He's funny as fuck.
He's funny as a world, fucking, man.
Okay, real quick, before we go to your top five,
Who fucks with your music more?
Latinos or black people?
Black people, but I got a lot of Latino fans.
Well, yeah, everyone's on Central, so I would expect.
Latinos show love.
I was, look, I was just telling my barber the other day.
He Latino.
I'm like, bro, I really fuck with you because, like, you don't got,
you don't, you don't have egos how we do.
Like a nigga pull up to my house, give me weed, cut my hair,
all type of shit and just like for the love, bro.
A nigga is going to be like, nigga, I need $10 for this, grimp.
I need it.
You already know, like, that's just how we be.
You feel, me?
Like, y'all, I don't know what it is,
but y'all are way more like loving than we is.
We look at each other as threats.
I walk in the liquor store, a nigga come in a liquor store,
what you're going to do?
Look them up and down as a threat evaluation.
You feel me?
Other motherfuckers, it'd be like, it's love.
It's love.
Type shit.
I know, like, I've been realizing how many of my homes.
Because I listen to a gang.
I listen to more just, like, Spanish music than I don't even rap.
That's just my taste of music.
But, like, all my homies,
like, even when I've, when I've had conversations with, like, the root cheese and the RJs,
they're like, bro, most of our fan base is Hispanic.
And I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm like, and I'm, like, my, my Latino fan base rising
up, though, for sure.
And, and, and then I seen like the shirt, for that the Canaan one, but the, but the,
but for the other show that I was posted on TikTok, I've seen this shit and I was like,
that shit like a big ass mixed crowd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't have a couple shows where it was all Hispanics.
Yeah.
You were shows, cracking.
I remember.
I had, no, matter of fact, I performed one time,
and it was, like, all Hispanians.
It was, like, Moshpin and everything.
It was at a Regent.
They showed love.
You know, I had the region?
Oh, okay, okay.
I can't remember what I was performing for or whatever.
But, yeah, that shit was crazy, you know?
It was, like, majority Latino.
And, like, even, and I was low-key,
this was months prior, like, you feel me, and Nate?
And it was Latinos that even knew some of my songs.
I'm like.
Like.
Like.
Like, I'm like, damn.
They'll be quick to show some real support.
Niggas.
Niggas that hear your shit and act like they didn't.
I swear to God.
That's crazy.
The niggas hear your shit and act like they don't even know you, bro.
I promise.
I guarantee you he didn't have a situation where he see a nigga that's cracking and did.
He know that nigga know his shit.
And a nigga just walk right past, act like you don't even know a nigga.
That's a nigga.
I mean, it's a lot of that.
But I don't know, man.
If you know a nigga, you like a nigga music.
Yeah.
Show love.
You are.
Yeah, you are.
I fuck with you, bro.
And I think this generation, I think our generation is breaking those
barriers.
That's fast.
I'm a motherfucking
than like,
nobody.
I'll be in niggas
DMs.
Like, this shit hard.
I fuck with this.
You feel like?
Well, you gotta do that shit,
bro.
Don't be scared.
Fuck your ego.
Show love to these young
niggas, fool.
And that shit
feel good when somebody
DM you that you know
about.
Like, when somebody
popping in the AM you
and just show you love,
that shit feels real, like good.
That shit feels real like good.
That shit makes you like,
oh, I'm doing something.
Right.
I'm doing something right.
Like, I'm doing something.
I got something going on.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Fulg, give me your top five of LA right now.
Top five of LA?
Kaelin, for sure.
I don't know.
I'm like, just to be, I would put me in there just because I feel like, that's just me.
You feel like, no, some real estate shit, Kaylin, like Blast, Kalin.
I'm trying to think, Blast Kalen.
It's hard.
You know.
Hard.
I think some more.
Those three for sure.
I could think of...
And them all, like, melodic type, niggas.
Yeah, that melodic sound, that shit.
Like, it's like...
That's not R&B, but it's like...
It's like rapper.
It's rap singing.
Yeah.
You feel me?
That type way.
That shit going crazy.
Who first did that shit?
Drake did that shit, huh?
Yeah.
But, like, R-type shit, maybe...
Like NB...
I guess I could say Rottie Rich, I mean, but...
Or maybe, maybe even before that...
Yeah, that's it.
The area is cool, yeah.
Maybe like Ty Dollar sign?
Nah, I feel like...
I'm Su.
Ty Dollar sign for sure.
I am Sue.
Ty Dollar sign?
That was on some singing,
rapping shit,
nigga.
But I feel like
Ty was like just real life singing at some point.
Then more so I am Sue.
He got...
Man,
man,
and clink then she is.
Niggin, that's sing rapping.
That's not really singing,
but he's rapping, though.
You feel me?
Yeah.
So that's what you'd be fucking with.
No, yeah.
I like that shit.
That shit hard.
That shit dope.
I like that shit.
Rap, like, rappers.
Uh, damn.
You already got three.
Last two could be rappers.
You already got three.
Them all like melodic singing rappers type niggas.
I fuck a Ralphie.
I fuck Ralphie.
Ralphie horror.
I ain't gonna lie.
I never paid too much attention to recently.
That's crazy.
No, but it's just because I'm going to lie back in the day.
If you ain't got a bad, you can beat it.
Benchie up a 10, but he's the cast.
He's been doing it for a minute.
Now, man, he's been doing it for a minute.
but just my preference of music
I'd just be on to other shit
So when you was that age, you was listening
to more me and Frosty than Ralphie?
When, uh, what age would that be?
What year would that be?
With that wave, when it was crack?
When it was like 2012, 13.
That's too early.
14, 15, it was 15.
So fresh, I ain't going on out of, like, camp.
I ain't going on like, I was listening to a lot of,
a lot of YG.
Draco was, like,
at that point, YG, Draco,
O3, Grito.
damn
you was definitely just
but you're I don't go like
your shit was just more party shit
your music was ratchet fool
it was like so you
so I'm not listening to it while I'm just vibing
I'm listening to it like
I got a bitch on me
this thing and told me that he
he'd see me perform out of show
that shit fucked me up
I think I don't even think you were performing
I just like like I think
we pulled up and you were like the special guest
and then that's just so envirited
I mean there was a hoarse it was packed
it was packed I think it was a frosty
I could be wrong
Hey, that was that time for when niggas just pull up.
I was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
Wait, were you in Roth?
Were you in Frosty beefing it during fucking Milwaukee Bucks and all that shit?
Nah.
He was around for all that.
He did that shit.
It was viral.
I was around for that.
When Milwaukee Box came out, that shit changed the whole function scene ever.
I was around for all of that.
You played for the DJ that starts playing at 12, play that shit, the party officially cracked off.
But, nigga, I'm trying to think what was that?
What year was that?
That was 2016.
What you was on at that point?
Oh, I had just graduated 20,
16. So I was, I was hip, but I was fucking up. See, like I was telling you all, I was trying to do my shit together.
I was hip, though, for sure, but I was really just trying to graduate and trying to focus on starting
on starting my own career, but I was for sure hip when all that shit, yeah, and all that shit.
It didn't super crack for me to where your safe at.
When where your safe at came out, then it was just over. At that point, it was over, over.
Well, your name was different when you first came out to me. Nobody has a...
He sure started that over, yeah. No, niggas was not...
Niggas was not saying that, bro.
That comes from the P-game, though.
Like, your language was a little different
than most L.A. muffled.
It is.
But you totally understand.
That's what made it like pop off.
And that's why I like him, bro, because he's different, bro.
Who, I can't, all the other niggas who cracking in the city, that's on God.
I could put them in one of them four family tree.
The Drekko, Ralphie, Snow, me.
You could be like, oh, yeah, he sounds like them.
Or shoreline, too.
On God, because a lot of y'all be copying the fuck I'm short line.
Or a blue box.
That to now?
Yeah, now.
Hell, y'all.
I've never heard so many sports life.
God.
Oh, my God.
Hell yeah.
Right now.
You think that's like a new wave?
Bro.
Where it's like where it feels like everybody just like there's so many references in one song.
Yes, bro.
When we first came out, it wasn't you could only copy who you was just going to copy Dreco or sound like YG and them.
So you had to just be different.
Now it's just so easy.
I'm going to just sound like Dreco and drop a mixtape sounding like I'm falling asleep
It's a lot of like a tree
It's like a tree. It's the family tree.
Facts.
He knows what's going on.
It's the family tree.
I can't pinpoint him on no family tree.
Why do you think your generation
is going to last longer than theirs?
Because it's different now.
The time, the time.
I like the time.
How the timing and what's going on with the music
like Instagram and stream,
Distro kid and all this shit.
It's more advanced.
It's more easy to blow up.
You feel me?
Like, so, you know,
You know, that's all I got to say.
That's facts.
It was definitely harder for us.
We didn't have TikTok and all that type of shit.
TikTok.
You had to go to the schools and pop up outside and the parking lot and perform at it.
Like, you feel?
Oh, awesome shit.
You feel me?
Yeah, you had to get outside, bro.
I started it, but I ain't get a chance to finish.
I got to get some more schools like that.
I didn't get these schools like that and I wanted to go to.
But I'm for sure going to, I'm starting that back up this year.
That's fire.
Hell, yeah, man.
You definitely got any rapper, that's not an embarrassing thing.
You go to these school tour.
Yeah, not at all.
And kids, they're going to remember that forever.
And it's going to go crazy and it's going to look excellent for your Instagram content.
Mm-hmm.
For sure, the kids so love.
Like, I appreciate all the kids.
Like, every time I, you feel me, all the kids, man, they don't even know how big.
Like, they play a big part in.
Like, in them.
Like, even going up, like, to be honest, like, if you want to keep it real.
But, no, for sure, the kids.
That's facts.
Nichol, we have.
Schools, I'm going, I'm going to go to them schools.
So, yeah, man, I'm going to see y'all.
I'm going to see all at them schools, man.
So don't think I ain't forgot.
I forgot about you, man.
We're going to get that back going.
You definitely got to go through that.
That's going to be viral.
Hell yeah, that's far.
Come pop out and want to just do some stupid shit.
Yeah, you got to pop out.
Yeah, hell yeah.
I got a crazy one time.
You'll be big.
Hell yeah, man.
Say any more questions you got?
Nicky, what you got coming out?
Some new shit.
You do be dropping hella.
I be dropping a lot.
Me, I'll drop the project.
What could we expect?
It's a lot of more.
Really, I've been working on like better visuals.
Like, better songs, better visuals.
So y'all gonna expect, like, better project, you feel me?
More like heavy hitting, like, harder songs.
You feel me?
Better, for sure, production for my man's.
You feel, my nigga, no limit us.
And we feel like in and go more, way more crazy.
So just really better visuals.
You feel me, better songs.
And like, much it's more consistency, we're doing merch.
Like, it's just, you feel me?
Any features you're holding out on?
Oh, yeah.
I'm holding out on some shit for show.
Hmm.
But, uh.
Fuck, name us one.
Just give us no names, yeah.
I got some shit with K for sure.
I got some shit, me and Klan, for sure.
And I got a couple more, two down.
Yeah, I got some.
You're like, yeah, I'm ready for a motherfucker.
Yeah, that's fine.
Yeah, man.
Well, we appreciate you, man.
Let them know where they can find you on IG, TikTok, Twitter, all that.
And y'all can find me on everything at HBK.
J-A-J-T-H-E-K-J-H-E-K-J-T-E.
All platforms, all everything.
Yes, sir.
Man, there's do know and the S-GER.
You feel me.
Go follow my guy.
He's definitely one of the head leaders.
He next, bro.
Yeah.
Out of Los Angeles,
we haven't had to.
Like nobody.
You know, you feel me?
Bro, really from, like, he's from the land, bro.
He's, you know, between Normandy and Western.
You feel me?
Like Friday, all that, bro.
Go tap in, go stream everything.
You feel me?
And, yeah, man, it's doing no.
It's doing all this.
I mean, we out this motherfucker.
I don't know.
