No Jumper - Head Blocka on Coming Up in Florida, Being the Middle Man, YNW Melly & More

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Head Blocka talks about his upbringing, Bobby Fishcale inspiration, relationship with Melly, and more. ----- Promote Your Music with No Jumper - https://nojumper.com/pages/promo CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://nojumper.com NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4z4yCTj... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/nojumper http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22bro on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

No Jumper. Coolest podcast in the world. And today of sitting down with the artist. And I got to be honest with you, you're somebody who I literally watch one video on YouTube, did a quick search, realized you didn't have any interviews, and I was like, we got to get this one in. Head blocker. Head blocker. In the building. How you feeling? I'm feeling good about me. Let's tell them about where you're coming from. Let's do this whole story from the beginning.

All right. For starters, I'm about the question. Florida, gasthorns, apartments. Okay, and where is that near in terms of Florida, for the people who don't know? That's near Telassad. Okay. For most people who refer to it, like, it's near Talasin. Gotcha. And so, all right, so that particular building that you're going up in, or that you grew up in,

is that a particularly famous area out there? No, it's like, I'm really from up the road from the project, 1-18 South, you know what I'm saying, out of the hill, I'm at the hill, at the project where I'm from. You got to go there to no one I'm talking about. but I'm at the top of the hill, so everybody come to my house from the projects. Well, I just walked to the project, so that's what I claimed, you feel? Okay, and so what was it like growing up in that area? You know what I'm saying?

July, well, it was like, you know what I'm saying, a little rough, coming up. You know what I said? Everybody had a hard time. I came up really, really hard. There was no lights, you feel? No car. I came up with no lights coming up with, you know what I'm saying? Like, run out, running.

People out of the trenches, real trench, you feel? Okay, was it, was it better at your house, or was it better, over by the projects. Were you like a little bit insulated from all the crazy shit going on down the street? I mean, it wasn't really like isolated. Just like, you feel me? Everything right there. One road. Same thing. Right, for sure. And so, okay, but what was, like, were you really drawn towards all the bullshit that was going on over there? What were your parents like is also an important question? My dad just drive semi-truck when I was growing up. And like, off and on, losing.

Not people lose jobs. You feel like what going on. So at first growing up, I was growing up in Highbred. My dad, I'm going back from the mile. I was growing up in High Bridge, high bridge down the road from the projects. That's my dad-ahad-house. My mom-ah has always been up the road from the project,

so I'm back and forth to the mom-ah-ha-dad-house, something like that. For sure. But everything ain't coincident. And what did your parents want for you? What was their upbringing? their upbringing like were they strict parents or they don't screen print they ain't want me going out to high like every other parent you feel but you know what I'm saying we're young we're going to run around play go through stuff okay but uh so all right

how strict were they like were they like you know grounding you when you would get into trouble or like when I want to say like yeah like no I want to say like that car went over the man they're trying to get in trouble I was out with the sneaker tight like I would never get caught you feel I mean I used to say CGC I'll never get caught for the shit I used to do Okay. I never been in trouble like that. Definitely. All right. And so once, like, were you getting in, so you never actually got in trouble, but were you getting into a bunch of bullshit and what kind of stuff? I mean, no, I don't get.

Little around the stuff, you know what I'm saying? I never got in trouble though. Never got in trouble though. Okay. And so how was high school? High school, I mean, I really miss high school. High school, I learned everything. You feel, like, playful. that jump like, like, live, like, my high school lit. I was, like, the known, I was a type of person in high school. So you were already popular before you were rapping and everything? Yeah. So, uh, were you just popular with everybody or, like, what kind of place that you fit in with?

I used to be like that type person, like, everybody can go to, like, I'm funny the type person, like, I'm the type person that everybody, like, just chill, we all known type, and I had the mask. Like, everybody used to know what my hair, too, like that, too. Because your hair was so distinctive? Yeah, I used to have. I'm kind of mad. These, like, my fourth kind, fourth pair. Really? What'd you have before? For these, I had, just like these, but I used to be laying down.

Okay. Four of them, I had a red pair. Four of them, I had a green pair. How do you control that? Because you guys do both have very distinctive hair. It's almost like a flower or like a fire. It's like blades of flames coming up from your skull. It's not really no control, really.

Beside that, yeah. Covering it up. Really? So does it take a lot of work to make it have that particular effect, though? What you mean by that? I mean, like, you know, you see a lot of dudes with, like, dreds or, like, wicks or whatever. Yeah, see, people you with Matt Pins. Say, I don't you, Matt PIN.

I always think I do it naturally. I just let it grow. Really? So you just let it grow, but you don't have to, like, sculpt it? I put in the rub bands every night. Like, when I first started off, it comes, I put rub bands in it, let it form, like, get a formation, and then I'll take the rub bands out and just let it grow. It's crazy because it's like you have multiple layers of it.

Like, you have a row, and then you have another row, but then you kind of like push it back. It's fascinating. Different. It's definitely different, man. I mean, Florida's always been at the forefront of, like, different hairstyles, to be honest. Like, you know, there's always just been a lot of different shit coming out of there. But, all right, so how would you describe, like, the rap scene in Tallahassee?

Like, were you going to concerts or were you, like, having anything to do with the actual, like, music scene as a young dude? As right now, I'm coming up in the rap scene right now, but they knew who I am. They still coming up. They f***ed me. Everybody around the border in Florida, and they fucking with me. But do you feel like there was a scene or there was like a community, hip hop-wise, when you're coming up? As it coming up, yeah. I'm inside out of Bobby Fiske.

He's the first person that paid away. Right. You don't know Bobby Fiskelle? I know the name, but it's like kind of a distant memory. But I feel like when we had Wiz having on here the other day that he mentioned him too, and that was making me feel like, damn, my Tallahassee. You got to go search my dog, Quinston. Quince of Florida. That's Quince.

But Tallahassee, I ain't from Tallahassee, so you feel, man. Okay, I'm checking the shit out right now. Bobby Fish scale. So he's been, but he was cracking like a long time ago, right? Yeah, he's like the blueprint of this shit, me. He's still at it. You gotta give it to him, but he was like, I remember his name from like probably 10 years ago, damn near, right?

Was it that long? That's when he started. Right. I gotta look at the most popular videos. Oh, shit. I guess, like, his biggest videos were like four years ago. But, wait, so you. consider him kind of like the the biggest influence coming out of there for me what was it

about it was just the music or was it like from a cultural perspective seeing like when you have somebody come up from the same same area seeing he make it and make you say that you can do it too hmm definitely so when did you actually first start recording I really started recorded high school like I made my first song and I forgot when I made it. It was just like playing out, everybody, and they just chilling in the hood, just rapping, you feel and go to their homeboy studio. I went to my own boy just rapping. But I never took it serious. Like, just started rapping, competing, competing. So at what point did you start taking it more serious, though? I said I just started taking the series earlier this year when I dropped my first video, when I started putting money behind it, like,

letting them know, like, oh, I can do something behind it. Like, it really started when I seen my first check come from United Masters on, When I posted middleman motion, I can make music out of this shit. What was the first check? Thousand, a couple thousand. No, my first, my first payment was just like $300. Okay. That's $300. But that'll let you know.

Yeah, let me know that, okay, I can start making music, like, I can post more music and they'll start paying off for it, like, like that. Right. So when you first started rapping though, like, do you, did you feel like you were getting positive feedback from your friends and everything? Were they kind of telling you that this was a good thing? That was really made me go harder, like, you feel me? People tell them, like, boy, you can, you can do something. Boy, you're hard. Don't start. Keep on.

Keep on. Right. Just motivate me to keep going. Who are you influenced by? I'm, I'm flowing by the whole Florida, to be honest. Like, everybody really influenced me, you feel I mean. Coming up out of Florida, I just listening to everybody, for starters, Bobby Fish, Gale, you feel, me, code, that.

But I'm going to give it the people who come out of Dallas in Florida right now. I got to give it the weird, little Tyler, Boston, all them. Woodboy G, C. Stoner, he ain't from them, but all of them, I got to give it important and more motivation. Right, because I was just saying this to Wiz the other days, I feel like there's a whole new sound and style and like a whole different generation coming out of Florida right now. And I feel like Tallahassee might be the city where it's the most centralized. Yeah, they were the most in that right now. You got to get in where you fit it at. Right.

Okay. So I'm not wrong. That is like a real thing that that is kind of the city that's been having the most upward. Yeah. Right now. Really? That's interesting. Why do you think that is?

What's in the water? What's making everybody kind of rise above? Yeah, the ground coming from where you're from. You got to see a way out of that. You feel it. You're going to be a way out of that. You got to keep on. Right.

It's interesting, though, because I feel like Jacksonville also has a huge spotlight on it, but it's mostly for, like, mega street music. Whereas I feel like a lot of the shit coming out of Tallahassees kind of a little bit more player. Trapper. Yeah, motion music, like, we don't be on all that other stuff. Like I say, I'm from Quincy, but that's right there. So we'd be like brothers and sister. Like, feel me, like, right though. Right. Definitely. So, okay. I'm not my bad. You're talking to you.

You put the song out and like how does, and where do the lyrical content come from? Because normally it's not cool to be a middleman. Shit, come from that being the truth, you feel, me? Like, just coming on that beat, speaking to truth, who I am. where I'm from what I do, you feel me, just being honest, like, I ain't the plug, you feel it? I don't do all that. I just get a how I get it.

But you can make something happen? For sure that. Right. What's wrong with being the plug? Do you want to be the plug? No. You're just getting it how you can. Yeah, they get it how I can, man. I work. I work. Where you work?

You got a job? No, definitely, yeah. When did you last have a job? I quit it. When I got my first. chat for about four months ago what job where we were at the state at the state yeah we're working at the state coastal or a lot of places know what I'm saying getting how you forget it doing what for the state though helping elders oh okay I used to job like that

helping out the old folks home what was uh what was the best part about that and the worst part I say the best part is just like them them thank you like giving you your prize like hey I thank you you you feel me you never know what can happen happening thing that you feel i mean being just being there the worst part from my experience is that all these old people are a bunch of gossipy losers and they all just like talk about each other and like do weird shady shit and they got they were like hating on me for like any little thing that i would do they would like go and report me to the the main office at the old folks home that i was working at when i was like 15 you got remember you're gonna get that one day you know that's every job though yeah but

It just felt like it was, like, worse on average. I would hear the tenants, like, complaining about how I was, like, way worse than their kids. What a lazy piece of shit I was and whatnot. Which was true, because, like, at least one of the people who lived there caught me taking a nap in the hallway. Like, in the stairwell. That's what they do, though, yeah. Yeah, all they do is sleep, right? Yeah.

People that work, too, take nouts, too. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the ultimate goal. If you could find a way to sleep on the job, that's the bad. Free cheese. Yeah, because then you get to go home at night and you don't go to sleep. You can stay up late. I mean that either. It's just like free cheat and you're all the way around the board.

Ain't no hard work. If you can find a spot in your job to somehow be able to sleep for like a half hour, what is it? It's the best money you ever made. Okay, I'm glad we agree on that. But that was the first thing you did as soon as you started having some motion, you were just like, I'm out of here? No, I wouldn't say it like that.

I got a call from, who did I get a call from? Just a couple places back to back. I got a couple of plays back to back. Like, I wouldn't say the first call. I just, I just quit. I got a couple calls from a couple people, you feel, me let me know, like, they're looking at me. Go ahead and put y'all into it.

So I put them all into it. So, oh, okay, so who was calling you in particular that made you feel like you had a chance? I ain't going to speak on that, you feel, me. I got some labels looking at me. A couple people in the industry. More like label labels or like artists who have labels? Artists, labels, all around the board.

Hmm. Interesting. So that song just took off on its own? Yeah. Because it got like almost a million views now, right? Yeah. And that was all totally naturally. You just uploaded it and just started going crazy?

Everything natural. Promoting it, promoting it, promoting, and then people go look at it. Go tab me, go tab me. Running down on all the order, let them know, like, hey, I'm up on the order. Y'all go check me out. They're checking me out. Seeing that it's five-day reposting it, they made me keep going up and up and up. Right.

Damn, that's crazy. Where's the name Head Blocker come from? Yeah, blocker. I really got it from Quavo. I heard an old Quavo, so I can't even think of it right now, but I just had it thinking of it was an old Quavo, so a Migo song, head blocker. I used to be young listening to Miko. But what does that actually mean? What is a head blocker? Right, I'm head first on the block. I'm head blocker. Oh. I'm head first, like, I'm head blocker. Okay, I guess I was thinking in some way, like, I thought that you had to be, like, blocking your own head? What? No, man, you know like that, man. I'm head first. on the block.

Okay. So it was like a blocker? Like someone who spends a lot of time on the block? Yeah, I'm a block baby, brick baby for the project. You feel me here, block them. This might be like the whitest I've ever felt on this podcast. I'm having such a hard time piecing this together.

I'm sure there's other nominations. But you just said you were a brick baby. Yeah, I'm a brick baby. So we got our own break baby too. Yeah. It's a little different. Oh, and he has a relationship. He has issues in Florida.

I shouldn't even bringing him up. No. No, you're not part of that? What's me? I don't know who that is. You know? Oh, it's like one of the dudes I do podcasts with, but he was having some ATK arguments there at one point.

They were not too happy with him. No, we don't even know about that. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, I probably shouldn't get in the middle of that. Okay, but in that song, the main lyrical theme is basically you're just making it clear that you know how to make some money off of really a whole variety of different substances.

No, I'm just. Different ways of life. Different ways of life. And you just, have you always felt like you were that person? You just always had this, like, level of hustle that could kind of apply itself to a whole bunch of different stuff? Anything. I used to be young.

I go to my old fable pay, but I wonder what going on with the day. But I used to be cleaning shoes, pain shoes. I used to do anything and try to get money. That's just me. I always been a hustling. Really? Just anything that was available to you? Interesting. You know what I'm saying? You used to go go in there, do a car-cut your grass. You feel me for a little train? Anything. I want that type of person that sit on my ass all day. Right. And so as a rapper, though, like, how does that align with you having that sense of hustle? Because as a rapper, it's like on one hand, there's always something you can be working on. But then also a lot of rappers, I feel like they spend a lot of their time just sitting around doing jack shit. record every once in a while, but

I see as a rapper, like, you feel me? If you put your time and ground to it, everything ain't going to pay out. The hot fit. I'm seeing that. If I'm coming from where I'm from, I'm here in front of you, that's coming from putting in grinding time. No, definitely. But you've got to be it.

You got to have, like, the personality that people will actually pay attention to and listen to. You got to bring yourself out different, and me bringing myself out different that made me, made me come up more and faster. 100%. So that middleman song, was that like the,

how many songs would you say you recorded before that? One. Only one before that. Yeah. No, two. That was the one I said in high school, you feel a minute on audio mat. Okay.

I recorded on audio mat way in high school. Damn, that's insane. So you just knew it was the right song, or did you just happen to put it online and you were just like, let's see what happens? to rehearse it every other day in the hood and the project like, y'all, well, listen to me, you feel it, I'm really, man, this Discord.

You feel, I just kept going, kept adding new lyrics to it, and I just finally dropped it. So were people surprised when it worked? I don't want to say they're surprised. Everybody knew it was going on. They knew it were going, they kept telling me to drop it when I first posted on Instagram. They're like, boy, you got to do the video,

but you got to do the video, but me coming up from where I'm from the trench, like, I ain't, I ain't, you feel I mean? You feel I mean? How to do it how to do? You didn't know anybody who, could do the video for you? No, I ain't had the resources like

everybody else do. Like, you feel I mean? Hey, go do this, go get that. Go get this, go get that. You feel me? I ain't have the research right there and down. Okay. And so,

but, like, do you feel like the song was better because you had written it and performed it so many times before that? Like, because a lot of people, when they record songs, they're literally, like, writing the song as they're recording it, which, you know, it makes for a lot of, like,

good sort of spontaneous moments sometimes. But then I also feel like if you don't really have like that time to sort of dwell on your lyrics and just think about What you're saying or how it could sound better Then there's no like editing process No everybody everybody got their own way like I can go in the studio and just rip a beat Ripple song, but it depends on how I feel if I mean Sometimes I feel like I'm from the sit down and be like When I really write something or think about something you feel like I'll come back to it in the day

So you don't feel like that's something that's something? So you don't feel like that's some? song got better because you performed it all those times you didn't have like time to think about how you might improve it a little bit all around the board i really put my time in working that song my first song like that way i really put that song for right so how you just go into overtime mode like recording a shitload of stuff after that to try to figure out what your next song was going to be yeah i try to i really were going to the studio every other day but like i said coming over out from i going to work making sure I my son was just born right then too my son born on Christmas Day oh wow and he was born premature so I was back and forward to the hospital like I want

really worried about the right I really worry about making sure everything good while I'm at home you think knowing you had a kid on the way was that an additional like motivator for you to yeah that really motivated me too like knowing I had a son I'm like man and then when I posted a song everybody started with it you feel me so I'm like okay you feel me I'm gonna go hard in this shit They'd be right here gonna get me rich right here, you feel me? So even before it took off on YouTube, you were already looking at the, just from putting a snippet out there?

On Sine-Clau, it was already going up on SondCrow, like, 1000, 100,000 views, thousand and went to 300,000 views, like, quick. Taking on Instagram, like, every city, like. Where did you get the beat? Was that just... Oh, Mike, I'm gonna give it out the mic two times, and L-Y-D.

Yeah, they did that beat, they did. How'd you get in touch with them? Those local producers or? I really find a beat on YouTube at first. Oh, right. They go from Florida though. They go to Florida. So that's just a coincidence.

You just happened to find it, and then you figure it out there from Florida? No, it was just like, that one ain't the first beat. You know how you just go through beats, play beat, play beats. I just found that beat, and I just, they got hooked on it. Like, you feel, me? I just put it on that beat. But you did the paperwork with them before you put the record out, or?

Well, after that. Like I said, I ain't know the resource and none of that. Like, I'm just around the person. trying to make it, you feel me? Right after. Definitely. So what do you see as being like

your vision going forward in terms of like building yourself up as a rapper? Where do you see this whole process going? Nets started being another EP, been in relationship with ease. You know what I'm saying? More rappers, you feel me? Around the board.

Who'd you have a chance to tap in with since you been popping off? Who has reached out and who have you actually like spent time around. I got a number of this stuff. I've been reached out. Like I said, all the time I had started,

a little Tyler with, Boston, woodboy, going on down the line to south, to C-Stone, who else? I got,

Ralph and I had hit me up. Baby Fage Ray coming under my pose. He had light men, following me. Oh, shit. Just walking in a soldier, boy,

just then before I came here at well, far I go. You just saw him at the bank? Just walked into him, yeah. He was alone. No, I wouldn't say he was alone. Oh, okay. Big Draco, alone at the bank. Sounds crazy. I didn't say he was alone, though. I don't know what soldiers boys would be doing. He got a store right near ours, right down the street.

Yeah, I'm from going to pull up over that, too, but buy me some other. Yeah, you got to stop our store, too. This is a weird vibe, though. Like, we don't go to his store. He don't go to ours. We're just like, a little block. No, I'm from Florida. What y'all got going on? Just coming to shop in a little. No, yeah, that's definitely. a weird vibe for sure. I could get into it, give it a lot more information if you want.

But, no, he's a legend. You can't take it away from him. Okay. But what other hobbies you have? What other shit are you into besides the music and everything? Shit, besides music, I like, shit. I got a bad gaming the problem. Gambling. So what kind of gambling?

I like play cards. No, I ain't say I like to say I like to gamble. I'm going to get a bad gaming problem, but I play cards or play basketball. like, well, yo, put up 10 out to play basketball, you feel like. What card games? Tongue. Like, play tongue. Spades. Tunk?

That's you about tongue? I don't know about tongue. It's the same as Spades or it's like Spades? No, no, like Spades. See, I, I, one time I was out music video shoot for T.I. And T.I.'s kids were kind of trying to teach me spades. And, man, that should seem confusing as far. I'm a person who, like, I play poker, like, a lot.

No, I don't like poker like that. Yeah. No, I ain't no poker. I would like to learn spades, though, because I feel like if I can, if I learn the basics, I'll probably, I'm going to start figuring out how to be good at it. And a lot of people, I feel like with games like that, they just play it. They're not, like, going to work. Like, if I learn to play spades, I'm spending 40 hours the next week over watching videos on YouTube

about how to be good at this game. Like, I just have, like, way too obsessive a mentality. But I watch them play that shit for like a half hour, and I didn't know what the fucking are doing by the end of it. Got to catch on and get competitive. I know. In the streets they love space I don't know what it is

I read the cards Yeah Well okay what's tunk Give me the brief statement on how it works Right boom You get five cars You can spread

All real I'll write A real you can win If you have 50 or 49 That's five They add up Yeah Okay

That's five bridge That's 10 Crew Jack Yeah Or you have 49 That's a 9 You feel I mean automatic game.

Boom, or you have three spread, three tens, or eight, nine, ten. Like, you know what I'm saying? How you counted up? You have spread. You feel,

me, how you play? But wait, can you, like, come down once you have, like, a certain number of points? But then each time it comes around, you have to take another card? Yeah, every time around,

you pull the card. Oh, this sounds like gin rummy. I don't know what that is. You don't know what that is? I don't know about that. Oh, okay. Because my, my, and girl and her family,

they play some, some game. They call it cone cone, but that's definitely, like the foreign name for it. They're from Armenia, so they got different names for everything. But I feel like it's...

You like our game, though. It does sound a lot like it. Interesting. Wish you had some cards. I saw you. You got no cards? Yeah, I don't know how interesting that would be for the people at home either.

But... They're probably already thinking. Like, what the fuck you're talking about? But, all right, so gambling's a big thing for you? What's the most of you ever lost gambling? I don't want to say it's a big thing, but you know what I do with my run of the AJ Gamble, play basketball.

play the game. Okay. But you haven't let it like really take hold of your life? No, that's how you get free cheat. I'm Mr. Free Chee. Yeah. I see that as free money. You're going to take L. They're about to take L. You feel me? So you don't play dice or anything? Yeah, I don't like dice. You're not a big fan. I'm not a big fan. I'm not a big fan of cards. Yeah, I feel like dice is a scary, what's a scary thing to get involved in? It's a quick way to win money, quick way to lose money, though that. Dice go fast. Like, you feel me? But I don't play dice. I just feel like, I feel like, I feel like dice, I feel like dice is like the pretext to you getting robbed. It's like a situation with a bunch of shady dudes

in an environment where there's nobody who can tell you what you can and can't do. And at some point, if you f*** up, they're either going to like cheat you out the money or they're just going to take the money from you. That's if you're in the wrong situation. For sure. Wrong person, wrong plays, wrong game.

Wrong time. I've just seen so many dice games end up being the wrong situation over the years that it just feels like to me, just seems like a very serious risk to put yourself in that environment. I feel what you're saying, man. When you play poker, you play it in, like, a casino. Or, like, people will do it in their house,

but they'll have, like, security in their crib and shit. Like, it's usually, like, a pretty professional environment, whereas when you play dice, a lot of times, it's just, like, on the corner. Yeah. That we're coming up, like I said, coming up. Yeah, definitely. Okay, so, like, what other things are there to do in Telaheus here?

Like, you got a girlfriend? Y'all do all that? Everything, everything's pee? Everything pee. So that's your way of saying no. No, that's my way of saying everything pee. Interesting.

What's your definition of pee in this situation, though? Shit. P. P. Shit, I believe it. That ain't pee, man. For sure. How long you've been in L.A., though, right now?

I've been in L.A. for a day. He said yesterday? I came yesterday. How do you feel about it? I love a lot of it. Good job. It's a good vibe. You're into it.

It's got less of the small town vibe. Is it kind of intimidated though? Yeah, that's a bit five. The big city vibes though. Is that like... And like, like, New York, though. Like, when I went to New York, they're big, like New York, though, like, just seeing the big building. What did you, uh...

Oh yeah, he's here for you. What's here? Ralphie. Get over here. You're gonna hit the blood? Oh, dear you hit that. My bad. No, no, I don't give a f***.

How old he? It's more about if he wants to hit it. I think he's like two now, maybe one and a half. But, um... You don't know what I'm still? You can't hit it yet. Yeah, yeah, he's just a kid. What about, uh, when you went to New York, though, why'd you go there?

Just some use the labels or something? Yeah. How was that? It went pretty good, you feel I mean? Just learning the business, being of it, you feel me? Uh-huh. And nobody, like, really made that big of an impression on you, though? Like, nobody actually made you want to sign?

What you mean? I ain't gonna lie, like, they ain't make me want to sign. I just want to learn more of the business, like, you know, where they're going on, where I want to go, you feel me? Really getting a relationship with people, you feel me. It's all about that. I don't want to just go sign the paper, and I don't know who you are.

You ain't got a relationship with me. You don't know what I'm from, how I'm doing. You don't hit me up. Be like, hey, where you're at, you feel me? You at the studio? What's on you from the drive? Like, you know what I'm saying? Right.

Everybody ain't got your best answers. Because when you talk to him, Do you feel like to a certain extent Like they don't they just believe in one song They don't necessarily like Care about the entirety of your career Because that's how a lot of labels kind of work now Is that they just want the viral song

They don't really give a fuck Or whatever else you're trying to do They look for the song but they know it's more There's more to it They knew them with it Yeah They hear the upcoming I drop them out of my release though

They know it going on Definitely Do you uh Did you have any relationship with Melly Back in the day or you're just a fan when you're saying free medley on the song and everything like that?

I was a bit fan of Mellon. Okay. Like coming up in Florida, like that why I say all Florida artists coming up from one from now I used to listen to everybody, you feel of me?

Yeah, I mean, he's got like the saddest situation because he was only like famous for like a year, maybe two years and then he was just gone. Like now he just been sitting down

waiting for a trial. Well, he did a whole trial. Free medley, it's a young nigga world, man. Definitely. But like, do you look at him

as like one of the guys? goats of the current generation because I feel like he doesn't get mentioned because he was only around in the public eye for a short period of time but I mean he was like crazy original and just had his own shit yeah yeah the influence on a young nigga world you feel definitely they still know about really do you ever link with track yeah I was just with track you were yeah I'm living track I can call him yeah how did that go it go pretty good at time they're gonna all you do is just embrace me and then you feel me tell me to keep me to keep on He didn't make it officially. He ain't tried to sign you?

No, I wouldn't say that. You feel me? Got a good relationship, bum, you feel me? Everything, you're going to pop up. So you could see yourself signing with him, or what's your mentality on that? I mean, I see myself signing with $100K. Like I said, I'm just weighing on trying to see how to be in his goal, getting relationships with everybody right now, you feel me? I ain't trying to rush nothing.

Everything ain't going to happen at the perfect time. Right, yeah. He was just in here the other day, and he got some artists from Dallas. I was giving him a hard time saying like, oh, you gave up on Florida. What's going on? No, he's still in Florida. Yeah, yeah. Definitely, still in Florida.

No, he got his ear to the streets. Whenever I realize what it is everywhere, though. Yeah, he got to end to the street. He always got a Florida artist to show me that is like just barely getting going, but he already knows all about him and they're on the way up. So what are your thoughts on seeing this Fulio situation go down? That kind of rocked Florida, right? I feel what you're saying though

or is that like another world away over there yeah I won't speak on that kind from that way even though it's all closed that's still too far away for us to even well how far drive is Tampa like six seven hours like six hours but do you feel like like does that style

of like Florida music all the drill shit and everything does that appeal to y'all or is that kind of just that ain't my lead I don't speak on. I'm going to be my lead. I'm a motion. Motion music. Mm.

All about making money. Like rap, like rapping about it, but listen to a... Everybody listen to all that. Everybody listen. Everybody listen to each other around. Everybody listen to each other.

Right. It's just not really your politics. Yeah, I don't speak on. Nobody else is going on. But everybody listening. Everybody music. Right. Like I said, everybody.

But is that awkward for you if you're, like, listening to his music and you're around the wrong people? Or do you even not... associate with anyone who gives a fuck all that I mean I only associate with it like I said like I listen there by we're too far away for that way to know what going on to even be going to feel some type of way for me feeling that playing some music right definitely but is it oh yeah that makes sense you know what I'm too far to even feel some type of way of me just listening anybody or to be around

anybody that would say anything yeah it's like another world. Yeah. We're in a whole, I'm a whole small little country. Yeah, I mean, in LA, anything that happens six hours away is pretty much, it's like, because there is, there's a whole world in Northern California. They got their own crazy-ass gangs and all that shit, but, you know, once in a while, somebody from up there comes down here and gets into a situation or vice versa, but for the most part, it's just like, whatever they got going on up there, that's their own shit, people down here try to keep themselves for the most part. definitely so all right what do you got in terms of moves that you're trying to make or

just things that you're trying to bring to the table in terms of where your music career is going from there since next is visuals i'm trying to give out scrape visuals more music drop in my music right definitely how long you guys known each other what's what's the friendship like yeah it's like brother I love it brother man it's all the same area I'm from up the road where he's from It's called Midway It's in between Quincy and Tallahassee Got it

Definitely You rap too or are you just holding it down? I did rap but Now I'm on the business side You'd rather just be focused on that type of shit? Yeah Got it Do you thought the dog was coming for you again?

You really find out who the dogs when they're out here though Yeah You don't even come in to work that much But he's doing this thing You always carry this amount of money on you? No, I want to say everywhere I go, you feel me? I want to say I go everywhere I go with it.

Gotta keep some money on you, but I just came for this for this special and let you know, like, yeah, I'm Mr. Middleman. Straight $2 a dollar of bill, you feel, man. But that's probably like, what, like $50 grand or something? I don't know if those are hundreds or not, but there's a lot of money. What do you need to buy that's going to cost $50,000? That's a serious middleman. I feel like you're the other plug at that point.

If you even have 50 grand, you're not a middleman anymore. Everybody in the middle, even the club, me in the middle. That is true. There's always somebody big in with you. Like, who over you? Oh, I'll tell you who's a real middleman, though. I used to have a friend, he would be in the club, and he would be like, you need some coke? And then if you said yes, he would immediately go to the dude who's actually selling coke and just be like,

yo, let me get that, and, like, he would just tack on, like, $10, like, all in the club. So his supplier is just, like, some other dude that he knows right there. Yeah, nah, he's going too crazy. We're saying anything, like, middleman that we could buy a dog from you. I can go say. Probably could. You know what I'm saying? You probably good.

You know what type of man man. When I say middleman, everything, anything. Makes sense. Oh, I just know that you guys moved the whoops to the take. Oh yeah, I had to it. Honestly, I didn't notice that until right now, even though it's right in front of me. Wow, you guys, J-Main fans? I rock with the whole Chicago.

That's what I was saying about listening to everything, listen to all Florida, all Detroit, Chicago, New York. You guys down to push peace? You guys want to all push peace together? That's what motion is, motion. Motion is about not killing each other and getting some money. about everything by running right now. Keep it going.

Yeah, we gotta do that. Less killing, more balling out. That's good. That's a fact. That's a good note to end on. Anybody you want to thank? Anything else we need to know? Yeah, I want to thank my mama for you, feel me.

Always been up for me. I want to thank my daddy. Shout out the dough. Shout out of this. Shout out to everybody who'd been rocking with me from the get-go, you feel me. Motivating me to keep going. For show 100%.

Appreciate you guys. And I know shit is going to keep going crazy from here, for sure. Yes, all right. Appreciate you. Head Baca. No Jumper. Coolest podcast. Like, comment, subscribe.

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