No Jumper - Hell Kat on Getting Robbed By Her Own Hood, Discovering Her Sexuality & More
Episode Date: October 23, 2023Hell Kat talks about her upbringing in Arkansas, her come-up, being a gold star, and more. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT OUR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper....com/ NO JUMPER PATREON http://www.patreon.com/nojumper CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media: https://www.snapchat.com/discover/No_... http://www.twitter.com/nojumper http://www.instagram.com/nojumper https://www.facebook.com/NOJUMPEROFFI... http://www.reddit.com/r/nojumper JOIN THE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/Q3XPfBm Follow Adam22: https://www.tiktok.com/@adam22 http://www.twitter.com/adam22 http://www.instagram.com/adam22 adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Sharp Tank, No Jumper, sharpest, coolest podcast in the world.
You like that?
I love it.
Does it sound like it sound on TV when you watch you?
You nasty.
You nasty.
It's alive.
We got my podding in here and somebody we've been working with lately.
You know, here at the office, here, no jumper.
We got Hellcat in the building.
What's going on with you, man?
Man, nothing much, man.
Staying afloat.
Hang like it's not trying not to fall, huh?
Come on now.
One step at a time then.
What's going on with you?
How you been feeling?
I've been feeling great, man.
Yeah.
I've been feeling great, man.
How's it been being in the office?
First and foremost, if I even ask you that,
I seen the billboard because you was telling me about the billboard you was going to put up.
If nobody knows.
Hellcat had a dope-ass billboard put up of us, man.
You know, I think it was me, Hugh, Flacco, J-Main, Remo, Brick, Baby.
Mm-hmm.
And disto.
And Desto.
leave my desk, though.
And Jay, man.
I say, yeah, and Jay Man.
That was called right there.
I mean, how you go about to?
Who you knew?
The guy in the corner.
The guy in the corner.
But also,
also shot out to my sponsor
because my sponsor,
culture clothing.
Culture clothing.
I got some of that, man.
They actually sent me a pack.
I appreciate it.
It's fly.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, come on.
They do you, man.
He had hit me, too,
with a message the other day.
He said, yeah, I'm working on some new stuff.
He said, as soon as it's done,
I'm going to get you another.
That's right. That's right.
They definitely own it for them.
Come on, Sharp.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, salute to my new cave, man.
The clothes are cool.
You know what I'm saying?
I like them.
I like them. I'm, you know what I mean?
So make sure when you do talk to them, if I ain't talk to them,
sending my love.
Okay.
I need to get with this, though.
I'd be seeing y'all wear that there's an awful lot of cost or if.
I'm like, I got to put some of that in my closet.
That's nothing.
All we got to do is just go down the mailroads when you're ready.
You know what I'm going to pull up.
He told me to come down there.
We'll get it all.
We'll get all that shit.
in there and all this a one so you know what I'm saying he it's just the only thing when we go up in there
that's allow some of fast you just got to be at your size when you picks up so they might be the only
one on the shelf left hey man it's a good problem that's a good problem that's a good problem
that no one come on now how you uh how's it been uh being in no jumper and uh working on the
news man it's been awesome I'm glad I ain't got to tell you to pull the mic up because you
already know see you're learning yeah yeah yeah training see you're going through your training
yeah I'm well media trained man not to have to have to
have no
training.
No,
it's life-changing.
You know what I'm saying?
You got,
see,
you gotta know
when you come from nothing
and don't nobody
make it out,
you feel me?
Like this on,
on this magnitude,
no jumper,
I made it.
I can tell,
I can show my mama.
You feel me?
I went from being
wanted on the news
to being reading the news.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
in a positive life.
That's love.
I always say this, like, because I feel you when you say, like, you know, we made it.
But everybody always think, like, even like people that get interviewed, they come on,
no-jumper, they feel like a no-jumper interview is going to change their life.
And I'm like, no, that's just supposed to be a stepping stone.
You know what I'm saying?
It's supposed to be somewhere to get you somewhere bigger.
It's not going to be, hey, I'm on.
As soon as I do an interview with no jumper, I'm top-dog, top elite, you know.
It's not that.
I wouldn't want nobody to ever do an interview
and get comfortable
and think that they made it.
You know what I'm saying?
Still gotta work.
It's got to get.
There's always room for improvement.
You tell me if I'm wrong.
Success feels like that though.
Success feels like he ain't doing enough.
Success will trick you.
It will.
It'll make you feel like you own to something
that you ain't even begun yet.
You're still at level one,
but it got you feeling like you're at level 10.
I tell everybody all the time.
I say, y'all see me on no jumper reading the news.
I'm like, I'll wait a years to be able to be on a
a platform that big, you know?
And when you get there, that's when the real work begins.
Yeah.
You know, it's not that you made it.
It's time to really work.
It's time to really work.
And I'm sure it's got to be different for you, you know, doing stuff like this.
What was you doing before?
Like, yo, I'll bring.
Tell a little bit about your upbringing.
You know, I was a business owner.
I owned a couple trucks.
I managed a couple artists.
Yeah.
I also was an artist myself.
but you know
I do whatever
it requires to take the win
I definitely want to talk about that
jungle track but we'll get to that
okay
because you say you know you
whatever it was to get the win
yeah I've always used
music as a car
you know and I don't
you know how a lot of people
as a vehicle
oh yeah as a car
to move around
to you know music never made me
a million dollars
but it saved my life
you know because the times
that I had something to believe
in.
Where I'm from, you know,
they call me cat daddy.
So I had something to believe in.
And having something to believe in
helps you make right decisions
on your journey.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially when you're feeling around
in the dark,
you don't know if you're doing right or wrong,
you know?
You're just trying.
Yeah.
Yeah, because it do be f***ed up
to feel like when you ain't got no purpose.
You, of course, you're going to make bad decisions.
You got something to look forward to.
You know, I feel like it,
uh, it's just a piece of,
an extra piece of discipline.
You know, I guess I'd use it as discipline.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just knowing I want to stay out the bullshit.
Because you know, I got a greater, you know, I got a greater call for them.
I got something to be proud of, man.
That's what's wrong with a lot of, a lot of, a lot of things to be proud of, man.
Yeah.
You know.
Yeah.
So you, for you, for some music saved your life.
How long you've been doing music?
Is there something new?
Was this a new venture for you?
No.
You just say, I don't like the artist.
No.
The artist of getting a ain't rocking like this.
I know I can go rock this.
A little bit better.
Sometimes it happens like that.
You know?
Well, you know, where I'm from,
just don't make it.
You feel me?
Yeah.
And then with my dead home boys,
it was like.
Arkansas, right?
Yeah, Little Rock.
Algae than Little Rock.
I'm a little rock.
Banging the Little Rock.
Can we please shake the banging and little rock stereotype?
You remember that?
Oh, my God, man.
That would be so signaling.
Hey, hey, that shit is wild.
And everybody on there is my,
everybody on there, it's like,
I'm cool with the cribs and the bloods that was on them.
You know what I'm saying?
It's been years ago.
Yeah, it's been years ago.
And it's dead, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
RIP, Sonny boy.
You know,
but, you know,
it's still around Little Rock.
You know what I'm saying?
But it has such an impact on Little Rock.
And right now it's 2023.
And Arkansas in general,
and they're on something different.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't get money,
a lot of nukes taking care of their kids.
Now, you got some roadblocks down there, too, you know?
which we'll talk about.
Yeah.
But that's anywhere.
That's anywhere.
Yeah.
Now,
for you,
you coming up through there,
you know,
obviously being,
you know what I'm saying?
You got,
you know,
you're moving different down there.
How do people take that?
Especially being in Little Rock.
You know,
this is the country.
No.
It's the country.
So, you know,
people,
they stand everybody business,
you know.
It's not really a big world over there.
Everybody kind of just moving.
Right.
And how they was taught.
They just,
bringings, they don't think they really see that.
Down here, it's not, it's not uncommon.
You know what I'm saying? It's not something where people are going to stop and
stare and be like, whoa, you know what I'm saying?
But I'd have been down to Arkansas.
Right.
And some of them little small little counties and places like that, I know they
probably ain't really fond of it.
Yeah, let's be honest, they ain't really even fond of black folks.
Right.
You know what I'm saying? Let alone, you know, somebody who's, you know,
gay or, you know, lesbian.
I know it's got to, it's got to probably have a, like,
I'm not going to say giving you a hard time,
but you could probably feel the vibe.
Man, look, everywhere in the world.
Yeah.
Even, shit, even around gay people in Atlanta.
You know what I'm saying?
But for the most part, you know,
I get a lot of love from where I'm from.
I haven't been there for seven years.
You know, I haven't lived there for seven years.
Yeah.
But I'm very much tied to Little Rock, Arkansas.
I'm like a mascot, you know, or someone that.
Mascot, elaborate on that for me.
What you mean by a mascot?
Like a nigger that doesn't have shit, but now I'm on no jumper.
Yeah.
I ain't in the jail.
I ain't dead.
I ain't killed nobody.
You know what I'm saying?
To a sense, where I'm from, to them I made it.
I'm a mascot.
Right.
Some people, by curiously, live through.
others.
You know?
Because some people just fucking stuck.
Yeah.
Some people, you'd be helping out
back there?
So many.
I got, you know,
I like to help the people that I helped,
you know?
Yeah.
But it's a lot of entitled niggas.
It's a lot of entitled niggas.
And I'd rather help a stranger.
I know this I'm fucked up
more than a stranger
who don't expect for me to help him.
Then
damn their
a nigga I've been knowing 20 years.
You know what I'm saying?
Because them niggins that I've been knowing 20 years,
they are entitled.
Yeah.
Entitled.
And I just feel the victim to being roached by a nigger like that.
You know what I'm saying?
You feel like, well, we already know,
but I'm going to ask you, because I don't want to know,
but you feel like it wasn't even just entitlement.
It's just people getting comfortable thinking that they know you.
Oh, so well.
Because it, listen, I got.
roach so bad by a
nigga I've been knowing. It wasn't
an outsider that tried me
and play with me. And when you
say the word roach, roach is another word
for rob. I'm saying rob.
I'm not going to give him the credit of
saying that he robbed me. Right. I'm saying
he roach me. Right. Well, I just want for the
fans, because they'll hear you say roach, you know.
Some people might not
understand it, so I just want them to know that
it's just another word for you. You know what I'm saying?
Rob me. Yeah. A nigger robbed me.
Take it. By two.
about two weeks ago, two weeks ago.
You know what I'm saying?
I was, uh, I wasn't in Texas.
You wasn't in Texas?
No, I wasn't in Texas.
I wasn't in L.A.
I wasn't in Miami.
In Atlanta.
I was right in Little Rock.
I was right in Little Rock,
helping a nigger that I've been knowing for over 20 years.
He roached me.
That's why I said he roach me.
Because you wait a long motherfucking time to show me that your motherfucking ass
didn't like me.
When you had plenty times,
You know, like it was probably something that they didn't even want from you at the time.
Probably didn't have what he was looking for.
I wouldn't know no jumper yet.
Or not even just that.
Or a nigga could have just flat out got tired of seeing you shine.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, damn, when you're going to have your fall?
I'm over here taking eight, nine different falls.
You ain't took, but one, maybe two, the whole time we've known each other.
The problem is niggers count your pockets and don't count your bills.
So they feel entitled.
Now, this roach-ass nigger is a nigger that,
is my dead homeboy son.
I've been looking out for the little nigger
so he can go to school.
I'm talking about for years, bro.
For years.
You know what I'm saying?
Buying shoes, buying clothes,
making sure a nigga go to school,
want to go to school.
You know what I'm talking about?
But niggas are fucking entitled.
You know what I'm saying?
You've known him.
I've known him. I've known them.
Look, this is what it is.
We were sitting in,
front of culture clothing.
Uh-huh.
The place that,
that fits us.
Shout like culture clothing.
Mm-hmm.
Fuck with him.
All right.
We're sitting in front of culture clothing.
I'm meeting him at culture clothing
because I'm an ambassador for culture clothing.
I was trying to give him some...
Yeah, I'm sure and give me my packs.
I appreciate.
You're welcome.
You're welcome, for sure.
For sure.
But I'm there to give the nigger some clothes.
Uh-huh.
I'm there to look out for the nigger.
You hear me?
Otherwise, he wouldn't even know where I was.
I don't move like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I was in one day.
I was out.
the other. You know what I'm saying?
But show what shit's think. This day,
we're sitting in the car.
All right. I'm on the driver's
side. He on the passenger side.
Nothing out the ordinary, my nigga.
You hear me? We're smoking.
I see two tall
niggas with ski masks
coming to my car
with guns. I'm peeping
the play, Sharp. You hear me?
I see the niggas. I see the niggas, right?
I'm peeping to play.
Now, mind you, I didn't have all the my jury on anyway.
All right?
That's why you look at me.
You might say, you know, people came really to you.
Yeah, you didn't really, uh, niggas.
I saw you after it.
I was like, oh, well, shit, don't look like they did too much.
Right.
They just roached me real good and taught me some lessons.
So I see two niggas coming to my car.
I keep the play.
I'm trying to put the bitch and drive.
The nigger that I'm smoking the blunt with slapped my hand away from the, from the
gear shift so I couldn't put it in drive.
He unlocked the door, let two whole ass niggas with guns in my car.
All right?
Mind you, this the nigga that I'm helping.
Dunn helped.
He's sitting in the passenger seat.
He's sitting in the passenger seat.
He doesn't want to slap your hand.
He don't want to slap my hand.
But it ain't registered yet in my mind.
My mind is get away from these two whole ass niggles with guns on me.
Nigger in my back seat.
I'm leaning back like this trying to grab
gun. I'm grabbing the gun
the nigger in the back seat, telling the nigger
in the front. Shoot that bitch.
You understand what I'm saying? Because I'm being
insupporting that. I got my foot up all
kicking this niggum. Got the foot up, trying not to get
shot in the face from the nigger in the front seat.
I'm grabbing the gun in the backseat.
At the same time,
my brain is get up out the
motherfucking car. I'm
sliding, trying to get up out the
motherfucking car. The nigger that was
on the passenger side pulled his gun on me.
can't just give it to him.
That's why I said I were roached.
And for him, you say he over here trying to pretty much plead with you
because he know you like, can't just give it to him.
You just give it to him.
At this point, I got three guns on me sharp.
You see how I ain't the toughest.
I'm not bulletproof.
Three guns is a lot for anybody.
This ain't no video game.
Right, right, right.
They're going to get a die and come back.
Right, right.
You understand what I'm saying?
So my thing is,
The whole moral of me telling y'all this story, it ain't about the jury, you know.
It's about, you got to know, it's a fine line in being humble and knowing that you
better than this motherfucker.
I ain't had no business even trying to help.
Man, I had so many motherfuckers just get on to me about just trying to help a motherfucker
because that's what happened to nip.
That's what my partners and my friends, they look at me like, nigger, you're important,
you know?
and that's what happened to new.
You know what I'm saying?
It's got to be fucked up because, like I said,
there's somebody that you helped for a long time,
you know, obviously since he was a kid, you know,
and for him to grow up and not even try,
but to grow up and set you up.
Yeah, he's got to hurt more than probably losing the jewelry
or losing whatever the fuck they took at that time.
The jury will be replaced, can be replaced.
I'm just, I'm a jury fanatic.
That's just what I do.
that's my vice.
Yeah.
So it's not about the jury.
It's about you roach-ass nigger.
All them times I'd have spent money
and sent you money to the penitentiary
and bought your motherfucking-ass shoes and clothes.
And the only reason I did it because his daddy did it for me.
You know what I'm saying?
I was that kid who didn't have shit,
Sharp.
You know what I'm saying?
So I cherish my homeboys.
It don't matter if they're alive or dead.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So you said you looked out for him just on the strength of, you know,
what his daddy used to do for you coming up.
I did what I was supposed to do.
Yeah.
But in, in 2023, niggas are roachie.
Yeah.
And since when did it become cool to slime somebody that look out for you, man?
What kind of?
I'm going to tell you something.
Jealousy is at an all-time eye.
Mm-hmm.
There is no such thing.
for the, like, and I love the youth, you know,
and this ain't no jab at them,
but it has to be said, like, there ain't no,
motherfuckers ain't got no moral compass.
I'm talking about a real one to where, like,
you know, robbing the old people and shit,
like certain shit's how to play.
If there's kids out, man, you know,
you're gonna be shooting around the kids,
you're gonna do shit, like all that shit's out the window.
Niggas is just wilding these days.
The world's wilding.
But the fuck though part of you is
that you steal some good niggas in the world, man.
There is.
But it's hard when you overpowered by a bunch of bitch-ass niggins.
You're right.
You're saying.
And we're outnumbered.
You're right.
We all numbered.
But that's what I'm learning.
I'm learning that everybody don't deserve my company.
You know what I'm saying?
Even if you got to be by your motherfucker yourself.
I'm going to tell you what I told you.
Start looking out for you.
Right.
You've done enough.
You've done enough.
You know what I'm saying?
Like if it ain't for like immediate people that you know.
for a fact that you can,
they gotta still deal with you.
Yeah.
After if anything fucked up happens,
I wouldn't fuck with nobody.
That's right.
On the outside,
especially if, you know,
you catching some notoriety,
you know,
you really pushing something
where niggas
is trying to catch your back win.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, no shit.
You gotta really push forward.
That way you don't put yourself
in the positions.
I ain't saying,
can't nobody get robbed, my nigga,
but you got to, like, really understand.
Like, look at the people,
some of the people
that you help,
they doing for themselves before you go and help them.
Because I've always been a firm believer in.
I don't want to help you if you're not helping yourself.
You can't help yourself.
I'm just really enabling you.
I'm just really, I'm just, all I'm doing is, you know, putting a band-aid, you know,
or a little patch for you real quick to get you through a few days.
Right.
But I've got to be really showing, like, show me, like you're really trying to push
because that's how I am.
I don't like to ask for help.
If I ever came to ask somebody for some help, it's because, nigga, I am fucked up.
I've exercised every.
fucking option that I possibly can
to try to like you know what I'm saying I just need this I think this starter kid
and get me back moving though you know what I'm saying
like I just need a little bit of help not a person that just goes around and just leeches
this this right here also told me sharp
that it don't matter how long I've been knowing you
it's okay for me to outgrow you I'm not apologizing for outgrowing a nigga
and entitled nigger that's
where I'm from.
My, nigga, I've been over, 40 funerals.
You understand what I'm saying?
40.
Shit, man.
I ain't sorry for shit.
I work hard, you know?
And working hard.
Working hard includes making the right decisions, too.
What's the rap scene looking like down in Arkansas?
The rap scene.
Salute to 1,100 fats,
salute to queers.
Salute to self-paid savage.
Them niggas is working down there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm so glad that Arkansas has a chance right now.
Bankroll Friday opened up the doors for a lot of people.
I like to thank myself too, you know.
Yeah, man.
With Arkansas, you got niggas down there working.
They're getting millions of streams.
Niggas down there shining.
Ed Doloh, he signed to QC.
you know
what's the thing is going to take though for
you know city of little rock
or you know the state to get over that hump
and really you know
have the music game and a chokehold
like Atlanta's had
you know what I'm saying got their time
California's had their time
like you know what I'm saying just really get their time
to shine it's gonna be it's gonna take a nigga like me
it's gonna take a nigga like me
who who gets it has a blessing
to be on such a big platform
that I can speak about
or it's going to take niggas like them to
to continue
continuously drop music like they've been doing
shout out to TV Cammy too
because he's a TV Cammy and the real underground
those are two major parts of Arkansas
culture
we made our own music culture
TV Cammy is a blog
let me tell you something he was there when I got robbed
he was there when I got roached
TV Cammy
And you know what?
He didn't even post it.
He was like, fuck that shit, nigga.
I'm not condoning in that shit, nigga.
You hell kick.
You know what I'm saying?
Why does it, like, listen, that, all right,
that shit shouldn't even be a fucking option.
That's not even, that shouldn't even be something that's thought of for a split
second, like, I'm not going to post it.
Look at the world we live in.
Right.
Everything is about what can I post.
Right.
What can I, you know what I'm saying?
That's why I gave him his props.
What can I put out there?
And that's love, but I'm just saying, like, in my mind, that's not even an option.
Right, right.
Like, why am I going to out you or put, like, that's not even something we talk about anything.
We need to figure out, man, if we can get this shit back or if you just want a dead and leave it for what it was.
Same man, shit, man.
Hey.
You know, at the end of the day, that's how I look at it.
I always cross my teeth and I always dot my eyes.
I always take a minus and I always make it into a plus.
Yeah.
I promise you that.
Yeah, being down south.
in Arkansas
one of like the
original's how is the
is the music scenes like
is it supportive
like do they allow you
to have like a lot of events
or shows
it's a lot of
it's a lot of promoters
making money down there
yeah
yeah they have events
they just had sexy red there
I saw that one
yeah
promoter name
Rod D just had a sexy red there
um
soldier just came there
Trace songs just came there
I think
and this was all like
in the last month
You know what I'm saying?
So promoters eat good out there.
Yeah.
Stars are coming through.
Yeah, stars are coming through.
Is it because you feel like there ain't nothing to do?
That's all motherfuckers got to look forward to is to go to something like that because see here in L.A., there can be, you know, a big event going on, you know what I'm saying, with us.
But shit, there's six of them, six more down the motherfuckling block.
Seven moe down the block.
So everybody's kind of everywhere.
It's definitely not a damn thing to do in Arkansas.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's what I was saying.
So when that type of shit come through, everybody going.
Everybody's going.
Everybody goes.
Everybody goes.
That's why I think it is kind of dope when, you know, these rappers, they go on these tours, you know,
and they go hit these type of cities in the South, you know, like Little Rock.
And, you know, places like that.
Yeah, he can go through Conway.
What's that?
That's a college area.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Man, go through Conway, just shut a show house.
UCA.
Because everybody, yeah, because everybody's going.
Yeah.
There's nothing else to do.
Or they're taking their ass to Dallas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shit.
That's live, man.
I like that, though.
Arkansas, you all really...
I love Arkansas.
Trying to expand.
I know it's just got to be fucked up, you know,
to just have that experience, though, when you was there.
Your ass invited me down there.
Yeah.
You said, Sharp.
You'll be safe.
You'll be safe.
If y'all come down here.
And listen, though, I still stand on it.
I still stand on.
I'm not expecting.
You're like, nigga, you just got, you just got roached.
Because you told me.
However, I'm telling you.
Because you told me, I swear, not even three weeks ago.
Mm-hmm.
Three weeks ago.
That, hey, sharp, yeah, yeah, y'all come down.
It's going to like, okay, cool.
We have to make that run down the Arkansas.
Man, listen, man.
It's no jump up a big deal, man.
So I understand when I roll with you, niggas, I got to have security anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
it ain't no thing
for me to
and then
damn sharp too
in my defense
it wasn't on
outside of the play
with me
it's always a nigga
on the inside
always a nigga on the inside
huh
it's always a nigga on the inside
I ain't gonna lie
it's always somebody
that you know
I've always
that's why I don't give a fuck
anything
come up missing
anything like
somebody you like
ever like
rob my house
knock on wood
it never had
but just like
I know who to go looking for
it
because I know what I'm adding my house.
Right. I don't just be having everybody.
They don't have everybody in my house, man.
Can't just come to my house, man.
No, fuck all that.
Move different.
You know what I'm saying?
I moved in that million-dollar neighborhood,
so not to invite a bunch of niggas.
I'm the only nigga in my neighborhood.
You're in me.
You live in Houston today, right?
I live in Houston.
How's that been for you?
How's the transition been down there?
It's been wonderful.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's been wonderful.
It was difficult.
Just like anything,
because you move from anything that you know.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
To a foreign area.
Houston was foreign to me.
Yeah.
Is you tapping to the music scene while you're done here?
You know, I got with sauce now.
I fuck with sauce walking.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
To yourself family, salute to the TSA family.
Yeah.
I'm just worried enough if you, like, got in the studio or anything down there.
Got to, you know, about shows.
I've been to the sauce factory.
But, and I've been to rap a lot, too.
I almost forgot.
I've been to rap a lot too.
Jay Prince and them, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Get a chance to slide up on Jay Prince,
I slid up on Jay Prince, Jr.
At his restaurant.
What's it called?
Yeah.
What's the restaurant called?
I don't know.
It was so fast because the nigga was having
could be a little problems
with the Roller Royces or something,
so we didn't actually get a chance
to stay too long.
You know what I was in?
Houston been good to you.
Houston been great to me.
I get a chance to live.
Now it's people that are starting to recognize me, like,
give me an autograph, you know what I'm saying?
Type shit.
Yeah.
How's that feel for you, man?
Somebody walking up on you and asking you for an autograph today.
They been doing it for years.
I didn't always had groupies sharp.
I'm talking about weird old shit happening.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, my niggas think it's the coolest shit in the world.
You hear of me?
Yeah.
But shit, man, hey, man, you around 10, 12, niggas.
We're walking through the club.
Yeah.
And a bad bitch
Want to come through to you
And get a picture
Like you're cat daddy
Yeah
You hair cat
Let me get a
Let me get a picture
Like yes this is me
I'm trying to
Does it happen
And just happened back home
Yeah
Happen back home
That's how I knew I was getting too big
Yeah
Yeah man
The bitch said uh-uh
I try to shake the whole hand
Yeah
Uh-uh
I've been waiting a long time
To meet you
I'm gonna hug
You know I'm short
I'm like why my niggas
Let this bitch through
Look
Bitch grame
me and lick my neck.
Yeah.
Oh, you like the shit.
No, man.
Hey, man.
You like the shit.
Security.
That's what you talked about.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
My home boys is like, hell no.
Okay, man.
Hey, man, you always be on business, nigga.
You always straight to the club, straight back to the room.
No, not tonight, nigga.
Shit, we've been to kick it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's live right there.
So, yeah, you've been having the bitches then.
I've been blessed with women.
But look, man, I ain't going to lie to you, bro.
Yeah.
You ain't never fucked with a man a day in your life.
No.
A day in your life.
Not a day in my life.
My dick, big.
Never even looked.
Never even, like, thought about it.
No, man.
Hell no.
That's gay.
Hey, I don't get that.
It's gay.
Listen, bro.
I'm different.
God made me the way he made me.
But I'm a little different.
You know.
Give me two things that you find that's different about yourself.
Like, did you feel like is?
When I was, I feel like, when I was like,
I think a lot of people plan with being gay.
And, because it's cool to be gay.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
One, these are two facts about me.
One, I knew I was gay.
When the church lady used to make me suck a titty when I was about five years old.
Church lady used to make you suck her titties.
Church lady used to make me suck of tities.
My mama didn't come to church with us.
Wow, it was experience.
She had them big old sacking joints or was it?
Hey, nigga, hey.
She had them like, I just want to know she had like the church
I didn't understand.
I didn't understand.
You know what I was like this.
This nigga crazy the motherfucker.
I was a kid.
Hey, you still.
Hey, if you knew, hey, listen, if you knew you were sucking a church lady's
titties, right?
This nigga crazy.
You remember what the fuck they looked like.
Hey, look, no bullshit.
I'm telling you on the God's got true.
You remember that.
I'm telling you the honest God truth.
I'm being real with you.
About five, we getting out the church bus.
It is brown church behind harvest foods on Broadway.
We used to ride the church bus.
Me, my oldest brother, my oldest sister, and my other older brother, and it was me.
You're five at the time.
I'm about five or six years old.
Yes, sir.
It's back far as I can remember.
That's what I say.
You remember them titties.
We know we're going to get to that.
I'm going to tell that.
I'm going to tell you this.
I'm going to tell you exactly what I'm listening.
I'm telling you, hey, look.
My bad, I'm just waiting on the juicy one.
It's funny, but I'm surviving a church lady right now.
I'm surviving, I'm surviving a church right now.
Hey, so do you feel, okay, all right, so tell the story.
So Sunday school, early in the morning, they would take age groups.
So they take my oldest brother and take him back in one room.
They take my older sister.
she go back in another room.
They take my older brother. He'd go back in another room.
And this lady, she would take me.
You feel me?
Like...
This is an Arkansas.
This is an Arkansas.
She slick was a pedophile.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what she was, nigga.
She was making me suck her motherfucking tities.
Yeah, it ain't funny.
It's funny because it's the way you said it.
It was the way you just like, you just dropped the bomb on it.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like, yeah, I was sucking this church lady.
10ies and six.
Like, whoa.
That's casually being said.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just,
I'm being real what you want to know about me.
Okay.
No, that's crazy because I'm like, okay,
do you feel like that's what maybe
got you where you had?
I remember, I remember
she had on a whole bunch of perfume
and she used to just
hold me like a kid.
She used to just put her tities in my mouth.
I mean, put, put, yeah,
put her tities in my mouth.
Maybe you suck up tities and shit.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to fuck with you.
This nigga laughing at my pain.
I'm trying not to laugh.
This nigga crazy to do the motherfuckers.
No, because it's the way you're telling this story.
I mean, everybody's got to got a grin on her face.
Like, damn, for real.
I'm serious.
I'm dead-ass serious.
She used to do that.
I just feel like there's way worse shit going on in the world.
Then, you know, when you say like sucking tis, it just sounds casual.
Yeah.
She had a 60.
She wanted a 6-year-old to suck-year-old to suck.
That's fucking insane.
She should have went to jail under the jail.
Fuck that.
I wish your mama and them somebody would have found out
because she needed her fucking asswood.
That's what she showed me.
In all actuality, when you really look at it
and like all jokes aside, it was just the way
you had said it.
I caught a heckle out of it, you know what I'm saying?
Is this nigga crazy to do the motherfucker?
It was because it's fucked up when you know
you break it down because I'm living the church.
You're surviving the church, the church ladies.
And it's fucked up, homie,
because it's like, I think that,
do you think that could have probably pushed you to
why you are the way you are in the way you are?
I definitely love Teetis after that.
Yeah.
I love Teetis.
I didn't know until later on in life.
I was like,
oh, damn.
I'm molested by a bitch.
You know what I'm saying?
How does it make you feel today?
I know the bitch dead.
Yeah.
I know.
the bitch dead here.
Like, I ain't, I ain't like I can.
This shit's fucked up.
In the truth is, hey, you know what I'm saying.
Hell no.
I just feel like people need to watch kids, man.
Yeah, for sure.
Watch your children, man.
For sure.
You know, because people are weirdos, for real.
And I'm just telling my story to education.
You know, I'm not trying to discredit all women in churches and shit, but the shit
happened to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He felt like, that's why I ask you.
He felt like that's a piece of.
the reason of why you are today.
You know, we won't say that you, because some people
will say, you know, they're born gay.
You know, I was born.
I was definitely born gay, though.
Yeah.
I was definitely born gay, though. I was definitely
born gay. I mean, you were definitely
very young in your first experiences.
Yeah. For sure.
Yeah. You were definitely a baby.
Yeah, a mouth full of titt.
But I'm just, I'm trying to figure out,
did that alter the route you took?
You know what I'm saying?
If, if I was in therapy, right,
well, I got a therapist.
If I, if you would talk to my
therapist, she would be like, yes.
You know what I'm talking about? And I'm not ashamed to say I got a therapist,
motherfucker. We all, it's physical scars harder to heal.
The mental, is mental scars harder to heal than physical?
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know,
everybody's not blessed enough to be able to talk about their woes and put them out there.
Yeah. You know, I just want people to understand me a little bit more.
Yeah. Well, I'm definitely understanding you. I think it's fucked up because if you ask me and
Now I'm looking at it from just even talking to you and interviewing, you know, in that topic, you know, that conversation coming up.
I really believe that it altered you.
It did.
Man, it sent, it sent it, it sent something off in you that you, it carried with you for the rest of your life.
So I feel like what this is is you trying not to be scared, but embraced it.
Come on, man.
Just embraced it because you wouldn't, does that get what I'm saying?
Like, you're not running around like in fear like, oh my God.
Right.
It's fucked me up.
Right.
I'm fucking tarnished.
No, what you did was you embraced it your whole life.
You went out of head on.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's kind of crazy to live with that if you really look at it.
It's fucked up.
My nigga Big D said everything that was meant to hurt you is going to help you.
In some shape or form.
Mm-hmm.
But the mental scars that you get from it, you know, or the damage that you get from it sometimes is unhealing.
Right.
You know, you can't really heal it.
You know what I mean?
And I feel like it drives a lot of people off the deep end
or they go a little bit more crazier than, you know,
just going through some normal shit in life, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, I'm definitely not normal.
Evictions.
Right.
Shit like that's some normal shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like really going through some traumatic experiences.
That shit was traumatic as fuck for you.
I mean, like I said, the only reason I laugh,
because it didn't sound too traumatic.
You sounded like you enjoyed it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but you're six.
You don't know no better.
And I feel like it carried on with you.
And I, I, fuck that church lady, oh me.
Amen.
Because it fucking, it changed your life.
It really altered you.
Now, if you was going to go on to be gay because that's the fuck you felt like you was going
to be cool.
I understand it and respect to the gay public because I fuck with them, man.
It's nothing but love.
But I feel like, man, let you make that decision, not some fucking church lady.
Right.
Popping her big ass, soggy ass tittyes.
Not all up in your mouth.
you know what I'm saying?
Right.
Like, come on me, like that shit's just fucked up.
You dirty bitch?
Yeah, fuck her.
And it tastes like perfume too, white diamond.
Fuck that bitch.
That's that Elizabeth Taylor.
That's Elizabeth Taylor.
Yeah, I know.
There's stanking this shit in the world, man.
That's the old lady perfume, man.
God damn.
I remember that shit.
Yeah, I remember that fucking shit.
Old ladies wore that shit.
Yeah, yeah, they wore it.
That wasn't, that's what I'm saying.
Stanking, motherfucking shit.
This wasn't no young church lady.
I'm scar.
Yeah, you are.
And you know what's so cold?
Because that fucking lady, hey,
because that lady was all like,
that lady wasn't even young,
man, that was a grown ass knowing what the fuck she was doing woman.
Man, she knew, that's what I'm trying to tell you.
That's the fucked up part.
That's why I'd be like, y'all,
people watch your kids, man.
It's important that you pay attention to your company.
It's important, like, because, you know,
those are fucking kids.
I hate to see a little girl sit in a grown nigga left.
I hate to see a little boy sitting a grown nigga left these day.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, no, that shit's kind of crazy.
I ain't going to lie.
I don't believe in that shit.
And you know what else I hate?
I hate to see a bitch fixed all up, sharp.
Nice, little good, fine as fuck.
Yeah.
But dragging a kid.
I ain't got no coat on, snoddy nose.
I hate seeing that shit, man.
It's a say so much about the bitch.
doing, you know what? I always say
and we all know like shit.
Some people don't need no kids, man.
You're right. Some people really don't need
to have no children.
Like, you know,
what do you feel about the
what do you feel about the
the Creshawn joint? Blueface, saw that?
Yeah, we've been talking about it on the news.
What'd you think about that?
What do you think about like this, man, I ain't
a lot like, I saw a picture,
a disturbing picture.
Right, you know.
With the hernia?
With the hernia on the baby
And I'm like
It seems like this baby needs
Medical attention
Asa.
More than anything in the world
I think
I think
I really
I really think
If she wasn't just as famous
As she was
That niggas
She'd like call her all kind of name
Dumb-ass bitches
And shit
Like come on,
pro
I even
Okay
Since yesterday on the news
I've been doing
Research on hernia
But still, it's so visible, you still would beg and plead these people to help me.
You know what I'm saying?
Like they say some herniers aren't painful, but, you know, she's still a kid.
You know what I'm saying?
No matter what, it's a kid involved.
But God damn, boy, she'd be fucking up, man.
I'd be rooting for the bitch, but she'd be fucking up, man.
Yeah, like I try to root for her and I fuck with her.
Like, you know, I just don't want, for her.
heard to get...
See, I just don't want CPS to get involved or nothing
like that because, man, once that
shit go in the system, it don't
go away. They don't ever go away.
You don't ever go away. That shit lingers
for a lifetime when CPS gets
involved, man. I swear it's as bad
as the feds coming here. I swear.
It's fucked up. You know
what I'm saying? Because these motherfuckers be for real,
like once they start, because they start
documenting your ass. And what's
so cold is, is because she's making
visual documentation
for these people of the baby being in Walmart.
I'm talking about bent the fuck over.
These are all events.
You know what I'm saying?
And she's documenting them herself.
They ain't even got to come knock at the door
and try to walk in to see what's going on.
She's showing it.
Crazy than the motherfucker.
She's showing.
And instead of getting, you know, the baby, the proper help,
all you worried the fuck about is how you're not going to change,
the name change.
Couldn't be my baby, mama.
You get what I'm saying, worried about it.
the fucking,
like straight up.
Like, but she worried more about
fighting him over a name change
versus, hey, get your baby over to the hospital.
Get your baby to the hospital.
And get him the proper health.
Right now.
Right now.
There's no reason.
You should be sitting at home or fucking,
another thing, nobody even takes
their kids out.
And before like, man, two months.
Like, man, like, they don't even go outside.
Right.
Their immune system's still weak.
You know what I'm saying?
This baby being outside
the first week of its.
life. I'm talking about outside
for real. Come on, man.
Yeah. No shit.
Blueface said it, though. He said him and his
other baby mama was going to end up
getting custody of that baby.
You know what? I'll tell you
this. It'd probably be
the smartest choice. Because
like I said, I still want
Chrishan to have a shot to still be with
her baby. You know what I'm saying? Straight up.
Because once CPS, I'm telling you, man,
it ain't no money.
They don't care about none of that shit.
I know.
Damn you know this.
Sure.
One day, I was in college.
Believe that.
I went to college.
I wasn't good at the shit.
I was just good addressing.
But I went to college.
Had a bitch.
She had a son.
But the bitch was trying to figure out what I was doing.
You know what I'm saying?
She left the kid in the motherfucking carriage
with sleep at the apartment.
You know what I'm talking about trying to see what I was doing.
See what you was doing.
See what I was doing.
Yeah.
janitor came in the
motherfucking house
took the baby
called the police now
took the baby
you hear me
I paid my homeboy
I'm telling you
this had to be
about 15 years ago
I paid my homeboy
to go tell
them people
that he left the baby
you hear me
that shit still
on his record today
child endangerment
gave
gave the bitch back
the baby
I ain't gonna tell you
the bitch name
but gave the bitch
back the baby
but
That's cold.
I mean, I know it.
That shit never go away like you say.
Yeah, that shit, because it don't go away.
And now they're always going to be.
Like, man, if they decide to get a hair up, they ask just to want to come check on you after you didn't got your kid back.
No bullshit.
They can do it.
And they'll come do it.
Just to be in the neck of the woods.
Just to be fucking with you.
Just to be fucking with you, man.
Like, you don't want them kids to get into that system because once they do, that shit's over with.
Come on, man.
It's hard.
Listen, it's easier to keep them.
It's hard to get them back.
It's hard to get them back from them people.
You know what I'm saying?
Sure.
I know you a player, right?
Yeah.
So I got to ask you, Vane.
You remember your first girlfriend?
Yeah.
Bad?
No.
But she had shit.
Nope.
She wasn't even the bad.
I'm talking about, like, in elementary, like, fifth grade.
For real, man.
You wasn't bad, but, you know.
She had shit.
I remember this, look, I remember this one chick, right?
This is when they was doing the, remember on the Monopoly at McDonald's?
You win a million bucks?
Well, I knew a little bitch back of the day like she had won that shit.
In real life.
Yeah, she had won in real life.
Like, she actually won that shit.
She went to my school.
Like, they only get, like, they only break you off every so.
Like, they break you off quarterly of money.
Like, you didn't even get the whole million dollars at once.
I learned that by fucking with her.
Right.
But, like, I'll be like, man, you.
Hey, bring me some shoes tomorrow.
You ain't going to bring me no shoes.
She'd be like, watch this.
I will.
She said right by the mall,
a nigga, went right to the mall,
nigga, bring me some shoes, bring me whatever.
I remember the bitch's name, but I ain't going out.
You ain't going out of?
No, I ain't go out.
Because I never forget.
I remember her first name and her last name.
Fifth grade.
They wanted McDonald's.
You hear the leak.
My first girlfriend was loaded, too.
I mean, I hate the sound like that,
because her mama died.
Yeah.
Lifted some money.
How am I running fucking with bum-ass bitches, though, after that, too, though?
From, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, maybe, like, A, gray.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just...
I was just trying to get my dick with.
Right.
You know?
That's how you know what you did.
Hey, you know what you're except now, though.
Yeah.
For sure, for sure.
My first girlfriend, I told her I was going to leave.
She should be a bitch shot herself.
What you mean?
Like, nigger.
Whoa.
Yeah, man.
Man, I'm a motherfucker, man.
You ain't know.
Hey, computer love.
I'm a motherfucker.
in real life.
Computer love.
I'm not sure if I'm supposed to brag about that or not.
I mean, look, I'm a TV.
No, you know why I want you to speak on it because you didn't do it?
I sure didn't.
Shouldn't nobody ever put you in that place to do something like that to yourself?
You can't blame nobody.
I don't give a fuck.
How hurt you get to just get the fuck away.
She did it to make me stay.
It bought me there for another three years.
She did it to make me stay.
I knew a nigga that did that shit.
10 to D.
I know a nigga that did that shit, man.
Got moved for the bitch.
Shot himself.
Crazy.
That's crazy.
He lived.
And he kept the bitch for a while.
It's crazy.
She didn't leave.
Oh, my God.
That tactic really works.
Because that tactic really works.
Because I fucking stayed.
Because that shit really works.
She does.
She was calling me all day that day.
And I was just...
Yeah, give me some insight on it.
Man, I'm out riding.
I'm out riding.
I'm out riding.
Mm-hmm.
me. She had some paper, too.
She bought me everything, anything I wanted.
How old was you? 18.
You hear me. How was she?
She was 17.
Okay. Okay.
But she was awarded to the court,
what is that?
In the state?
No, she got her money.
You know what I'm saying? Because she was taking care of her own self.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay.
So, yeah, man, I was.
riding around. I had already told him,
yeah, bitch, I'm going to leave you. I ain't fucking
with you no more. You know what I'm saying?
Popping my shit. Yeah.
I was riding around all day just didn't answer the phone.
Came back home.
Blew it all on the motherfucking porch.
Open up the dough.
I lived on Broadway.
By the next to stink of sound.
Blu it all on the porch. I opened up the
open up the screen door.
Blew it all the way in.
in the carpet.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, what the fuck?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
She gone to the hospital.
Her sister then drove up asking me
what the fuck did I do to her?
What the fuck I do?
I just got back.
You hear me?
Yeah.
Go up to the hospital.
She, oh, just please take me home.
Where she's shoot herself at.
And the wrists.
She's right here.
Bow!
Them motherfuckers
asking me
Where'd she get the gun
Damn, she said
Fuck the razor blade
Like, nigga
I'm God
Just pure holes
Through that motherfucker
Yeah man
I'm going on
I'm God
Scared the shit out of me
I thought they was going
Blame me some way
That's what happened
After that
Shit, I signed
To get her ass out
Yeah
I signed
You know
I had to sign
They wasn't gonna let her go
How long you stay fucking with her?
Another three years
You're scared me, though.
You made me scared of the motherfucker.
But bitch, she shoot herself.
She'll shoot you.
She'll shoot you.
I knew I was special then, though.
Yeah.
I knew I was special.
You said, if a bitch want to shoot you, then you wanted them once.
Hey, she wanted to shoot herself.
A bitch want to shoot herself.
That shit crazy.
Yeah.
Damn, and the wrist.
You ain't never had nobody to shoot herself over you?
Hell no, no.
I don't want to.
That's going to make.
don't worry me because like you said, if they shoot themselves, they will shoot me.
I'm trying to tell you.
I believe that.
I'm trying to tell you.
And me and you both know, it's hard to fight a gun when it's already drawn down on it.
Come on, man.
It's hard to fight that.
Come on, man.
Like, come on, man.
I can't.
I don't care who behind it.
Yeah.
Shit.
All right.
Well, what's the plan?
Like, what's the plan for you?
Like, what's the future looking like for hell care?
Well, I'm looking for a crib out here.
Yeah.
Looking for a crib of LA.
I'm looking forward to doing the news
and they said something about a new store.
Yeah.
That's coming.
The new no jumper store.
Yeah, we got a new no jumper store happening, man.
That shit going down.
Yeah.
That shit going down for sure.
It's going to be dope, man.
Melrose is going to be cracking.
Right over there by dub shit, it's going to be live.
It's live, man.
Yeah, it's going to be live right there.
Yeah.
So I'm looking forward to being able to work with the greats.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
and continue to elevate, you know.
I hope this interview gives people a better insight
on what type of person I am.
Because I am just a person.
You know, a lot of people, they see us
and they tend to think that we don't go through real shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So I hope this makes people get a better insight on me,
love me more, hate me more.
I really wouldn't give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
Just watch the goddamn news.
straight the fuck up
Before we get out of it
I want to know about that song
Jungle tell me about it
because I know you know you do music but
Jungle is a song that I did
and I'm singing on the hook
It's on my YouTube
I thought I took it down
A guy named D D D dirt
shot the video
He was like let's shoot the video
And he pressing me to do music
He's just like man you need to
Let everybody know you still do music
You know
Yeah
don't let it all be for nothing, you know?
Right.
I don't know.
I was just,
I do have a song with him there's two times, though.
Oh, okay.
How's that one?
It's nasty.
It's nasty.
Yeah, it's nasty.
The only reason I asked that because I had a nice gentleman
by the name of Levian Bill come in here, you know,
and he had talked about, you know, getting verses, you know,
from artists like that, you know,
from people like you'm saying,
because he did one I believe with Moneybag,
yo um and he was just like he didn't really like the verse he didn't you know he just felt like
it was it was rushed or it was you know it wasn't really he felt like there wasn't really
no thought put into it you know what I'm saying did you you know what I'm saying like
because he doesn't know him right he didn't know him he didn't know him he had no relationship
with him I don't know if you know you and finesse got a relationship if y'all have actually
met you know but in the same room we was in the studio recording together so it's a little bit
I feel like it's a little bit different shout out to rap a lot no look
Yeah, that's why I asked you, like, did it hit different?
You know what I'm saying?
It's cool.
I've done music, and I'm blessed to not say that I'm just being underground.
So I met plenty of people.
You know, Miami Mike was my manager for a long time.
Yeah.
You know, so I've been blessed to meet, just build different relationships in the music industry.
Why leave it alone?
Why not pick it back up?
I try to, I try to tell people if I can help them.
You know what I'm saying?
If I can help somebody, I will.
Because it's your duty to, if you learn something to teach it.
You know what I'm saying?
But when you get roached, it'd be hard to want to steal help her motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right.
Not lying, man.
No, I know that shit was a fucked up experience for you because, like I said,
it wouldn't even be the materialistics that really hurt me.
it would have been more of who did it to me
like somebody being, you know,
supposed to be close to me, somebody I've been helping for
all their life. You motherfucker.
You know? Yeah.
That shit is hitting different for sure.
Yeah, for sure. It's not like the average.
I'd rather a stranger do it to me.
I'd rather a stranger had done it.
Beat the dog shit out of me.
Took my shit.
Straight up.
You know? And I've been like, hey, that's a part of the game
with just wearing your.
But for it to come to from somebody
that I genuinely had love for.
I've never thought a bad thought.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's entitlement.
Cat got self-changed.
Why the fuck I ain't got no change?
Cat live in a big house.
Why the fuck I ain't ever been over?
You know, that entitlement, man.
You don't deal with that sometimes?
There's always the why them and not me effect.
You know, people always have that on them.
You know, why them and not me?
I'm running than them.
You know, instead of finding and figuring out a way to action,
get your motion.
You know, they rather sit there
and harp on you about what you having
or, you know, eyeballing you.
Instead of really just going
and taking care of their own motherfucking business
and getting it together.
I don't even call them. I call them roaches.
Yeah. Roach-ass, niggas.
I don't fuck with them.
Listen, you know,
I don't mind helping nobody.
Like, I'll get a motherfucker of the shirt off my back.
But you got to make sure that, you know,
you helping yourself way more
than you helping anybody
because if you don't help yourself,
you can't help nobody.
You know what I'm saying?
Has any of your people
made you feel like,
nigger, you owe me?
No.
None of them.
No.
No.
None of them.
Man, you blessed.
For real.
I don't got nobody.
If anything, they just ask me,
hey, there's anything
they can do to hell.
You know, that's pretty much the gist of it for me.
Like, I don't really.
Really?
Yeah.
They just asked me, hey,
If you need any help, just let me know.
Like the people that I know, I've been knowing all my life.
So it's like I ain't never changed to them.
I've always been the same.
And they'll always tell you like the world is just getting to see what we already knew.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I ain't never changed on them.
This is really me.
You know, I was this with nothing in my pocket or a million in my pocket.
You're a motherfucking right.
I ain't never changed up on my people just because of the position that God may have blessed me
or put me in, you know?
Right.
I feel that.
Yeah, fuck all that.
I really feel like a person is who they was before they had the money.
They just never got a chance to show it.
Yeah, well, nobody paying attention because you ain't got no motion.
Right.
You said you ain't got no motion.
You ain't got no motion.
The words are going to hit different.
You're telling somebody something and they see that you got some motion or you know you really
move and it's fucked up because they'll listen to you because you got a lot of jewelry
on or, you know, you take all that shit off.
They'd be like, what the fuck is you talking about?
It's weird.
Like, people really, they look at you for what you have if they're going to listen to you or not.
Fucking weirdos.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, why would I listen to you?
You don't have a big mansion.
You don't have a, hey, that's not important.
There's always something you can learn from some fucking body.
No, for real.
You just got to sort and dig through the crates.
Even from a bum, you can learn.
Like, come on, man.
It's so many people.
It's so many people who I have.
I've seen who I don't want to be like.
That's how I learned, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't really just met too many people.
I'd be like, damn, I want to be just like that, nigga.
Yeah.
You know, because I know who I am.
But I've seen so many people I just knew, no, I can't be like that.
I don't be like that.
I don't need to be.
Always stay yourself, you know?
And like I said, to you, man.
Say it again, Sharp.
Always be yourself.
Don't ever play yourself short out of year to try to be
That's they walk of life.
That's right.
You never know.
You take your route.
You might fuck around and get there five minutes early anyway.
So just go your way.
I get so tired of people sitting there and they watch online and they have social media.
And I say it all the fucking time, man.
Mother can sit there and wake up every day to look on Instagram, Facebook,
or wherever the fuck they go to for their social media needs to tell them how to live for the day.
Right.
You know, you don't need nobody to tell you how to fucking live.
Get up and go program.
Go live your life.
life. Nine times out of ten, the nigger that's telling you what to do ain't doing shit.
Man, go live your life. Ain't doing a motherfucking thing. You watching me.
Every day.
On no jumping news, motherfucker.
You like doing the news?
I like doing the news, man. Yeah.
I really do. I like, I really like the atmosphere. I like, I like being around people that
has dreams and aspirations. Yeah. Come on now.
Yeah, that newsroom do go kind of crazy.
You know, a lot of people, a lot of people might, you know,
know, I learned that another person's floor is another person's ceiling.
So what another person might have took for granted, I enjoy.
You know?
You feel like everybody's treating you nice here.
I feel like it's a bullshit stigma because they be like, oh, you know, I feel like y'all
niggas ain't homophobic because you fuck with me.
Yeah, we fuck with you.
You know what I'm saying?
You fuck with you.
You are always.
No, look, yeah.
Always.
And I ain't gonna lie to you.
God gave me that gift.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's been times when
niggas, I didn't see
niggas.
We've been at dice games,
niggas and winning,
fend to go outside
and go fuck a punk up.
And I stop them.
I say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
what the fuck y'all doing?
Yeah.
You know?
You can't, you can't fuck him up
and sit here and shake my hand
and just think that it's okay.
It's like, come on now.
Yeah, y'all diggers is not like that
for real? You don't get no medals for that shit.
Yeah, you're not like that in real life.
To even put your hands on like a gay
person or something like that, you don't get no medals for that shit.
No, man. You don't get...
You ain't winning.
No, man.
I feel like it looks funny.
But I do love it here.
I do love it here. I love it in L.A.
I love my experiences out of the age.
So you're coming down, huh?
Yeah.
So you're looking for a spot?
I'm, uh, I'm core, yeah.
I'm just, I just need to get with Josh
and do a little bit more,
research and, you know, try to find something.
I say, come out for a few weeks.
First, see if you really like it.
You know what I'm saying?
See if you really like it.
You know, I think that's important for you.
You know what I mean?
It's just to come out and get a feel for it.
You know what I'm saying?
Go out, see if you can network,
if you can move around and see if it's lucrative for you.
Because if it ain't, you might as to stay your house where you had and fly in.
Right.
I'm just giving it real with you.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, I want to see you make the proper move, proper steps.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
That way, you know, you still, you win in the end, you know,
and you ain't just making fast moves.
Right.
You did?
Yeah, for sure.
I appreciate you for sliding through the day.
Oh, really, man.
Anything else you want to tell the fans, the viewers, anybody,
you want to scream a fuck you too.
Hey, love you.
And man, look here, man.
Never let social media dictate what you do in real life.
You know?
for real
the truth
know who the fuck you are
before you get on that
goddamn keyboard
man that is never
gonna happen
that is never
I feel the wishes
that's never happening
well
I appreciate you for sliding
come on man
I appreciate you for having me
Sharke
coming and you know
chopping it up with me
and I hope that
you see through
all your endeavors
come on
We're gonna chime about a year, man.
The sharp tank.
The sharp tank.
No jumper.
No motherfucking jumper.
Sharpest, coolest podcast.
In the world.
Hey, got it.
Shoot us out the motherfucking gym.
