No Jumper - Hitta J3 on Kendrick Lamar, Top5 & Adin Ross, Playboi Carti Coming to Compton & More

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Hitta J3 talks about being labeled "Kendrick Lamar's goon", his upbringing, the streets, Adin Ross, and more! ----- 0:00 - Intro 0:32 - Says there's too much negativity and it’s rare for people to ...make it out the hood without tragedy 3:19 - His first music video was “Gutta” with Joe Moses, says he had YG pop pout, says it was a blessing for YG to hop on the song 5:26 - Used to go to the studio with Slim400, recording with him and building a relationship, RIP to Slim400 7:05 - Says they're not trying to lead the youngins into crashing out 8:33 - S/O YG for stepping up and being at the forefront of the peace walk 10:06 - Says we’re blessed to go from a Gang bangers to carrying a brand or be a man without a gang, says Police messed up 92 peace treaty by dressing up and wearing flags to instigate and maintain the police budget 11:50 - Rest in Peace Ryan Twyman, Hitta explains the story of Twyman incident, the officers responsible barely got any time, says the money ended up missing from the Fundraiser 17:55 - Says the possibility of peace is personal, its like families, says sometimes people will test your family and you will have to stand up for your family 20:14 - Salutes Lil Durk for getting through the storm says that's his bro, they been locked in, says back then Chicago was special 22:40 - Says sometimes you have to find guidance by yourself, says he started going to the Raq more 29:55 - Wacko’s involved, says he may be reconsidering going on podcast now when he realized that he has a voice and can help the younger homies 39:20 - Adam asks about J3 being called “Kendrick’s Goons” for people from LA with a connection to Kendrick, J3 Says when you genuinely love someone you can't help but to react if someone says something about them 44:56 - Says Kendrick is a representation of him, his city, the whole United states of America, says people misuse America, there will never be another Kendrick, or Lil Wayne 47:01 - Says he wasn't there for the Noisey interview with Kendrick where Kendrick shouted him out, J3 gets emotional, says that was a special day because his grandmother and grandfather were there 51:28 - Says he wants his kids to feel that peaceful vacations feeling every day, says when he got s__ at 14 his momma came outside and seen him laying on the floor 56:40 - Says his mom went from having money, rich guys, matching cars with her husband to being on powder 1:08:56 - Asap Rocky, Taylor Swift videos, says its one of the craziest videos he's seen, Adam says he thought the video would be talked about more, J3 says Rocky and Schoolboy Q had a album 1:11:27 - J3 remembers being on Melrose looking grimey and pulled Adam to the side, introduced himself and told him “Im gonna be on your show when the time is right” 1:13:01 - Tells people out there to read more books, says he's been locked up with dudes who couldn't read 1:18:10 - Says never tell ppl whats going on with your case, says he's had somebody try to get him to stay even though he was about to be released, says he gets claustrophobic when being in small places Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It was just checking out private schools in Calabasas. Now I'm here with you. Yeah, that part, man. I'm trying to do something like that right now. Get my son in school and shit. Yeah. Get him in this school. You know what me, man.
Starting point is 00:00:15 I'm really Orange County living, man. Oh, nice. I'm trying to, I've been Orange County living for 10 years now. Yeah. And me, so I'm really just trying to get used to that and raise my son in the right environment. You feel? me you leave this shit along a little bit you feel me because it's just like you know you see like
Starting point is 00:00:34 it's too much negative you know and you see niggis ain't going nowhere like here you know what I'm saying like yeah niggas niggas can go somewhere here but you see it's rare like you feel me that niggas is really making it about the city like without dying for it or or something tragic happening yeah I mean I know people who have like moved out the hood moved to a certain area they still get their house ran up in and then they got to figure out a new neighborhood. It's a ghetto everywhere, you got to keep that in mind. It's a ghetto everywhere. So, and it says somebody that's hungry everywhere. Yeah. You feel me? So you never, we can't beat that. I mean, you, you see shit in the news all the time about no matter what nice ass area you move to.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Unless you got like crazy security or gated communities, all that kind of shit is like, shit can follow you anywhere. Yeah, for sure, for sure. For sure, for sure. But one thing I can say, it's like me, you know, being out the way and just staying clear of all that that a nigga come from, it's been nothing but positive living, you know? Okay, that's super interesting. Why did you make the decision to not stay around the way? Like, was there any particular incident that made you like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:47 I mean, it's like, we know, like, tragedy is just waiting, you know? You know, like, a nigga still got a mama. you know, that I want to see a nigger succeed, you know what I'm saying? It's like, yeah, you want to be real to this, but you got to be real to who you are, your family. You know what I'm saying? Right. Niggas find their self trying to be something to this and they lose their self as a person, you know? And I'm sure you didn't see her a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Oh, you know what I'm saying? And just hip hopping, this whole lane, podcast and lane, you know what I'm saying? People lose their self, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's crazy too, because even though you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? Because even like, you know, a lot of rappers I talk about make me think about this. But this is not a lot for you to really gain from doing like street-ass. No, for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:35 As a grown-ass man. When you're young, you can build a reputation. You're right. And everything. But as you get older, it's more and more like there's only a certain number of people that are going to give a fuck about you talking bad about the people that you beef with or whatever, you know? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Eventually, you got a, you know, you got a transition. And that's what I've been working on. like, you know, just transitioning to an artist. Like, you know what I'm saying? Not just a gang member. You know what I'm saying? You want to be something greater than that. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And it's like, you know, when you come from this high, you can't help it. Like, you can't help it, but be what you was defined to be and what you came from. Like, you can't hide it. Right. You know what I'm saying? So it's like every now and then, like you might react. You know what I'm saying? You might go on one.
Starting point is 00:03:21 But wait. Your first music videos, like the oldest ones I saw on YouTube, like 10, 11 years old? Yeah, my first, my first music video, I probably, it was the one with Joe Moses, gutter, gutter. I had YG pop out. It's the first time I heard Bompton.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Right. You feel me? So. Was that do the gutter? No, not do your gutter. Oh, do your gutter, yeah. I'm gutter first. First, then I'm gutter.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Then I came on with do yo gutter. Right. Feel me? So I was just branding what we come from and the shit we go through. You got it was just the line that you were pushing. at the time. Yeah, yeah, because I was gutter. That's all I knew. Right. So I'm like, fucking, I'm a brand this gutter shit. Then from there, I was able to get Kendrick YG problem on the remix. And then from there,
Starting point is 00:04:06 I mean, when YG pulled it up, like, you know what I'm saying? It was a blessing for us to connect and get that record, you know? Right. So for him to do that for me, I appreciate that still to this day. You know, that's why I've noticed I'm still rocking still to this day. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like with the peacewalk and show, you see, I'll play my play my part we're definitely want to talk about that what's the biggest gap you took in terms of recording though because it feels like you still drop pretty consistently uh the biggest gap you ever have any like years where you just didn't really put that much shit out i mean i'm gonna keep it real like once i start seeing like a lot of my friends dying and shit like that like
Starting point is 00:04:47 that shit kind of eat you alive so it's like you don't really got it to get your energy to this when you got to get your energy to yourself and you got to uplift yourself and those around you so that's the part i've been working on like you know uplift those around me and myself you know what i'm saying first you know first and foremost you feel me like they got to uplift the community you know what i'm saying you can't just you know i got the chills watching one of your old videos because it's like earl swayed slim 400 uh it's like a couple more people it was like too many people who had passed in a row Yeah. That just made me like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. And that's shit that I got to live with and be like, damn. Like, you know, a lot of times before I even had the light on me, I was going to the studio with Slim Fo Honey, you know, and we was working on songs and, you know, building a relationship. So still to this day, that's why I'd be like, you know, recipe slim for honey, you know what I'm saying? But.
Starting point is 00:05:46 There's just so much talent and so many good dudes in like such a short period of time when you watch some of these videos that just really reminds you. how many people have been lost. So how it make you feel when you seeing, okay, these people are present, then they're not, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:00 I mean, shit. Is you still having the spirit to do this? Yeah. Yeah, you still got the spirit. Oh, for me,
Starting point is 00:06:07 for sure. Yeah, honestly, it makes it feel more important. Yeah. Because it's like, when a person is alive and they can just do a million
Starting point is 00:06:14 interviews, it doesn't feel as important sometimes. It starts to feel like, like, is there that much meaning in me doing this when there's a million and my doing this. And a lot of times when somebody comes and sits down with me,
Starting point is 00:06:25 they might go do three, four interviews the next day or some shit. Sometimes it does feel like, damn, maybe some of the heart of like why this felt important has been kind of lost. But then when a person dies and you have an amazing record of who they were before they passed, that's when I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:06:42 like this shit is really important because that right there, that might be something that his kids or his family are going to have to rely on at some point to be like, this is a blueprint of what his life was like. For sure, for sure, for sure. And that's what, like, a nigga got to understand, like, we are reflection of one another. Like, that's why when we did the peacewalk, like, that wasn't for the media. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:03 Like, it sees that the G-homies planted, like, you know, and that was before our time. So we are reflection of one another. Like, you know what I'm saying? This kid's growing up under us, you know what I'm saying? And we're not trying to lead them into crashing out. You know what I'm saying? We're trying to show them that this opportunity waiting, you know? So what, yeah, what was the origin of that particular piecewalk?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Because I've heard a lot of, like, other narratives about it. A lot of people trying to, like, put the pieces of the puzzle together. So let's get it from your side of the story. I mean, where did that come from? We got to understand, like, this shit that ain't spoken on. Like, it's rare that you see, like, us beefing amongst each other. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you got to keep in mind.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Crips and blood's been beefing for, you know what I'm saying? saying a 50 years you know what I'm saying we never know however amount of time but that's something that's been going on but it's never happened in your own backyard to where you got to clean up you know I'm saying like and it's dirty like it's getting messy and you can't trust those rocking the same flag as you you know what I'm saying and you never know who envy is that just come with it you know what I'm saying so that's the main thing like that's why we did it like you know what I'm saying like you know bloods and crips that shit been going on
Starting point is 00:08:23 okay was it a moment where it felt like shit was so fucked up that something needed to be done or was it a moment where it felt like tensions had lessened to it so it was a good time to try to push it. It seemed like we coming around and it's just like we
Starting point is 00:08:39 just surround each other but we don't know what the energy like you know what I'm saying we don't actually know how people really be feeling you know what I'm saying it'd be people that be grieving about things they might not speak on right at that moment you know what I'm saying so that's what I think like it was huge for the you know shout-out YG just to step and put himself you know on the front line the forefront and you know put that matter in his hands you know and use his voice and
Starting point is 00:09:09 you know what I'm saying his testimony or whatever he came from you know because it wasn't easy like for him to succeed and be where he at right you know what I'm saying And still come to the trenches, you know? Most niggas lead the trenches. Right. You know? So we've seen plenty of examples of why that might be a good idea for a lot of people. Yeah, for sure, for so, for so, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:29 But, okay, in a situation like that, though, it's always kind of interesting. Because not that I've necessarily seen this coming from that side of shit, but, you know, there's other, like, peace scenarios. And then you'll kind of, you'll see a bunch of people who are a little bit more successful, a little bit more open-minded, et cetera, trying to push peace. And then you'll obviously just have the 19-year-old hotheads. You don't want to jump on Instagram and say, peace. We ain't doing peace.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Y'all killed my little brother. It's not happening. How do you, like, combat that when you understand how angry they feel towards whoever? Man, we blessed to go from a gang banger to carrying a brand. You know what I'm saying? Or be a man without a game. You know, where we from, it's rare that people out to seek something greater than this. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:19 Like I was just saying about the Bloods and Crips. Like a lot of people don't know, like, it was a peace treaty years ago, you know, and it was Bloods and Crips who was beefing and they came together. Like, that's just stuff you see in the movies. When they're tying rare rags and blue rags together, that was real. That really happened in Compton, you know, in 1992, you know, salute to the G homies who paid that way for us, you know, and allow us to, to believe in something greater, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:50 So like I was saying, like, when that peace treaty happened or whatever, shit, I was just born, you know? So, you know, like, I tell you enough right there, like, and then you get out, and you just jump into the field and get a taste of this for yourself. But that peace treaty was real, and you want to know what really, like, you know, messed that up. It's the police.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Really? The police start, do your research, man. The police start putting on flags and doing stuff to get people to respond and react to and make people think that it was one another coming at each other again because it was, you know, once the violence stop, where you're going to get your money from? Right. You know what I'm saying? If there's no crime happening, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:11:39 That's interesting because it's like an individual cop doesn't really rely on violence to maintain his career. but in general, if there was just like no killing in the hoods of LA, that would mean that they would probably start slashing police budgets. Man, rest of the piece, Ryan Twyman, if you do your research, anybody, you'll see how he was gunned down. So you know that they are gun you down. I'm not even like going to expose. I just did a movie, a movie role, my first movie role.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Really? And I'm playing a movie role in a movie about cops doing that type of activity. to us and not saying nothing just hopping out, gunning us down. You know what I'm saying? And one of the homies who are idle put me in that position. But that shit you've actually seen?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. Really? Man, hell yeah. I just told you, Ryan Twyman. Wow. You got a police shot at him 50 times. You know what I'm saying? He wasn't doing anything?
Starting point is 00:12:38 He was just sitting in the parking lot. You know what I'm saying? You can go look it up on YouTube. I'm surprised you ain't seen me. No, I got to look that up. That's something you're saying. Recepiece, Ben, man. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Big Ben, man. Let's be our research, man. The homie had three kids. You know what I'm saying? And it was just sitting in the parking lot. The police wrote up, like, what's you going to do if the police walk up to your car and open your door? You know what I'm saying? What you're going to do?
Starting point is 00:13:02 You might be startled. You might just hit the gas, anything. You know what I'm saying? And from there, shots going off because the police might get scared, don't know what's your next. move and then they didn't hesitate to but to shoot first bullet hit him in the mouth well you know I'm saying and then from there the car just rode so they tried to say the car was the threat really yeah oh wow to them so from there the cop went to the car grabbed the automatic rifle and start shooting the automatic rifle this the first time I probably ever seen the switching
Starting point is 00:13:39 compter police had it holy shit man if you go watch that footage see how fast that that pistol was going off. Wow. That wasn't a regular pistol. What did the police do on with a switch? That's crazy. You never hear about like legal usage of switches or like, I guess it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:01 There's probably people who use it, but I only hear about it. I think the cop only got six to a month. A month? A month. Wow. Family one of, I believe, a settlement. But that don't bring back.
Starting point is 00:14:14 the life. Yeah. You know? So, wow. Yeah, that one hit different. Like,
Starting point is 00:14:20 bro, I was out there doing fundraisers. I let a peace walk did. After that happened, I let a peace walk with the, the Muslims and everything,
Starting point is 00:14:31 and the community and his family. You know what I'm saying? So imagine how that feel like to be the voice like, well, YG did with this peace walk. I did that for the homie
Starting point is 00:14:42 who life was taken. Right. You know what I'm saying? Anybody can vouch for me. Wow. You know what I'm saying? And I walked, we walked down Elsa Gondo.
Starting point is 00:14:51 We walked from Anthe's Park to the Antis Apartments. Like, that's a little distance. Where else Wavy from the park to where they killed them? That's what we walked to. And then we just start doing the fundraisers, selling the shirts. It could have been me. Not even selling them.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Just doing a fundraiser. You know what I'm saying? And then it's just so happened to money. came up missing. So we had to, we was off, you know what I'm saying? Wait, who do you think took the money? We don't know. Really? Yeah, we don't know. You actually don't know? That's cool. It could
Starting point is 00:15:24 have been a few people who really have had access to it, right? But there's girls out there. That's a cold one who's down to rob the peace. But it's the thing we got to understand, like, it was a lot of hoods out there, like other bloods. So then it's like people got the opportunity to blame somebody else. You know what I'm saying? So then from there, the focus is off you.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah. We don't know who did it. You know what I'm saying? When a person is presented with the opportunity to steal some shit or take some shit and they know that they have good plausible deniability, you'll see good people willing to do shit that they would never do otherwise. It's people that would be like, you know what? Since that happened, we're going to fix that. We're going to throw some money in the pot.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Like, I know what it's like for homies to get killed and throw money in the pot for funerals. That's when niggas don't know why I will You know what I'm saying When your homie out here And you don't know like he ain't got You don't know his family He get killed You don't never see his family
Starting point is 00:16:23 To a funeral Right You know And then from there the homies People are looking at the homies To come together Because this is what they child Chose to be a part of
Starting point is 00:16:33 You know what I'm saying On their own So do you really have like a vision In your head for what the streets Of Los Angeles could look like If these peace talks and peace treaties, et cetera, like really took hold. Like, have you seen glimpses of that in terms of people really being able to get along?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Or is it still kind of like a fantasy? No, it's not a fantasy. Like right now in the streets of Compton, it's pretty peaceful. Like, it's stuff that may go on, but from what we used to, it's just a blessing. You know what I'm saying? So we're thankful more than anything. Like, and I've been doing this unity thing, like, my brother is a Crip, you know? my blood brother is a Crip
Starting point is 00:17:14 And he was Their hood is labeled as our enemies So it wasn't easy Like when I did that I'm gutter video My brother but he Covered that video Right and they was over there And from there some homies don't
Starting point is 00:17:32 Want to be a part of it some will We gotta understand some will eventually You know, won't this And some won't You know what I'm saying? But okay does the few Does the future of LA that is peaceful, does peace require all these different hoods just minding their own business and staying away from each other? Or is there actually a future in which everybody gets along?
Starting point is 00:17:55 I think it's like personal. It's personal. It's amongst families. People like people protect their family. You know, if you understand like, man, all right, my people, yeah, he's from where you're from. That's family. And from there, people know they're off limits. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:14 People respect that if they respect you. Sometimes people will test your family. Sometimes you will have to stand up for your family. You know, and that's another thing that come with it is you willing to stand up and stick up for what you believe in. Right. Some people won't. They ain't really, they ain't ready to have the odds against them. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Some people, when the group combined, people fold. some people stand tall you know what I'm saying when they see like okay everybody against me oh yeah I know what that feel like you know what I'm saying they need to stand for something like oh yeah these my people's like
Starting point is 00:18:53 you know what I'm saying and and try to add the beef as much as possible you know I feel like I sometimes because I'm always like wrapped up in like Chicago rappers and Chicago content and then LA shit too
Starting point is 00:19:07 so I'm kind of always like contrasting and comparing like what's normal in each different city. And you got to give it to LA that it just feels like, okay, when you ask the Chicago rappers, like, do y'all have big homies? They always like, hell no, no, never, never.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Whereas in L.A., most of those will be like, yeah, yeah, you know, and you can see the effect of that. Because what? What have the big homies taught you? You know what I'm saying? If they just taught you to distract, right? You know, it's got to be more tool.
Starting point is 00:19:34 You got to be something, even if that's what they taught you, you're supposed to take something from that and make something greater. Right. in LA, I feel like I'll frequently see situations that will turn into you know, it won't end up
Starting point is 00:19:46 becoming violent or there'll be like a fight and not a shooting and shit like that. And it's a lot more mutual respect. Which isn't to say that LA is not completely fucked up because obviously when it comes to the gangbanging shit it's fucking insane and I'm not trying to sound like it's much better. Soft by any means. But you get to see like what a way
Starting point is 00:20:03 worse city is like with the Chicago shit where it feels like, I ain't heard about none of those dudes fighting each other in forever. It's always. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for show, man. But salute my boy, though, love Dirk, man, for managing to get through that storm
Starting point is 00:20:19 and them dark clouds, man. Like, that's really my bro, like, like 10 years plus. Like, we've been locked in. I've been going to the rack, old block. You know what I'm saying? And I'm locked in. How'd you meet, Dirk? I locked in with Dirk through G.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Weed. When that shit was going on, free Gweed, you know, meet the whoops. We're in this. Y'all know. Yeah, but gee, we, it was just, you know, back there, Chicago was special. Like, regardless what we seen, because that's what we come. We see that here. So, brother, you, when I went there, bro, you wouldn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I went there. You wouldn't believe it. I wasn't supposed to leave the airport. And I locked there with some other people and left the airport. The homies told me don't move. And I end up leaving and going to go be with some people getting. off some lean going to sleep. You were supposed to wait for somebody else to give you a ride and then you ran into somebody
Starting point is 00:21:16 else who had some lean and you were just like, fuck I'm going to hang out of that. They came in. They made sure they got me and picked me up. But the big homies was fin to go link us up with a little dirt and D thing and them, you know, recipe is D thing. We're going to go lock in with them. And from there, I left the airport because this is the thing. My mind was still, you know, corrupted a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:38 So I couldn't sit still. And, you know, even though they were. wasn't landed yet. Like, that was my, I think probably like a, one of my first flights. From there,
Starting point is 00:21:46 like, I left the airport and went to Englewood and all that without the homies. Right. I'm in the trenches, jumping in taxis and everything,
Starting point is 00:21:55 bro. You feel me? And I'm with dudes that I ain't never even known. And they get me leaned out. My family was worried about me. They couldn't find me, calling my phone.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Then from there, the big homies was able to, once I finally woke up, he's like, man, Where are you at? I'm like, man, I didn't crep off, man. And from there, they came back and got me.
Starting point is 00:22:17 They was mad, but they was already with Lil Durk in them. Oh, yeah. And from there, that's how we locked in. From there, like, bro, we like family. Think about if somebody was flying into LAX and you were supposed to pick them up and they just went with some random people that meant that airport instead. You'd be like, you cannot move this way. This is not safe.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You can't be on that type of time. You're right. Damn. You're right. Yeah, but back then I didn't have. guidance and that's what thing we got to understand is rarely guidance where we getting it from another individual sometimes you got to find guidance within yourself so I had to find that guidance and start going to the rack a little
Starting point is 00:22:54 more and you know catching up with the culture and seeing what's really going on and like oh yeah it's really actually serious like more like you know because it's serious here but once you go there and you know like oh yeah some can just happen out the blue and you You don't have to be a part of it. Right. You could just, I'm hanging on blocks in Tate Town and all that. For real.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Like, and I'm humble with it too. Like, I ain't out there, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, for real, bro. Like, it's treacherous out there, for real. Like, you've been out there, but it's different when you, when you out there and ain't no cameras.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You seeing what's going on. And you see what I'm saying. that activity like no they program different yeah they really no I know I know a white YouTuber who went to Chicago recently and was hanging out with some dudes who are like legitimately like serious as gang members like people want them dead and I still don't know what happened to them but allegedly there was a shooting that this white YouTuber dude was there for and that like
Starting point is 00:24:02 that just reminded me like I like you if you're going into these environments you can't just be hanging out like it's all good yeah because you know I'm so used to going to New York and it's all good. But man, Chicago. I've been in New York too. Yeah, like New York, you're in Manhattan, whatever, but it's like, I'm just not going to anybody's neighborhood and taking any fucking chances at this point. If we're doing content somewhere, we've got to move very, very properly.
Starting point is 00:24:23 This is how you know I'm serious about my craft. Prime example. Bro, I went to New York in the middle of the pandemic, right? When I had got a song with Casanova. Right. When he was going up. And from there, you know this pandemic with the cold stuff was real people was dying yeah and just imagine seeing that on
Starting point is 00:24:47 tv you're like man i ain't going some people i ain't going there i ain't going going i ain't jumping on flight we all were for a little while no i can't forget because i jumped on that flight with my friend that's no longer here and he died after that and and you know and he took that chance with me so i could never forget that moment you know what i'm saying and we quarantined together and his grandmother's mobile home and we was doing the pot with the,
Starting point is 00:25:14 you know, the quarantine stuff they're telling you to do the remedies and all that and we was doing that and we went there, we shot the video,
Starting point is 00:25:22 we was able to get it done and it was blessed to make it back and, and, you know, overcome that, you know, that sickness,
Starting point is 00:25:30 that that was in the air. Like, I probably had on three, four masks. Yeah, you can go look it up. It might, should be on YouTube but I recently had like a encounter with like see when you
Starting point is 00:25:44 dealing with these producers you don't know like you know who be sending beats and and who be helping with them so if people don't get their credits they fill away so they got the they got the song took down or something so then from there it was like it was a waste because I got them the what they call it when you get it approved and everything reinstated on YouTube or no like it was approved to be released oh okay yeah I forgot what they call it but yeah I got it approved to be released that shit just like it was just like damn he didn't go through that for nothing yeah but I believe the video is still on YouTube yeah somebody always manages to re-upload
Starting point is 00:26:28 that shit usually yeah but I believe it's it's still there though let me see but yeah uh yeah that was that was a real moment for me man because, you know, you didn't know if we was going to make it back, but we're like, man, we're going to take that chance. And it was only one person that was willing to take that chance with me. That was my bro, Melly, rest of peace, Melly, you know, my brother, man, he was playing football in the middle of the quarantine for Germany, Berlin or something like that. And when the COVID stuff happened, you know, football stopped.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So he couldn't even go to school no more And everything and Chase his dream And he ended up getting killed out here Your phone doing a little No, I was finished Oh, that's the video Oh, yeah, I thought you had a weird ass ringtone I was like, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah, but This is this, wait, okay, what's the song called? Whop. This, I've been pushing this whoop shit, You know what I'm saying? They're whooping out there too? Yeah, they whooping. Yeah, they whooping. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Meet the whoops, man. This shit for real. You know what I'm saying? you all know man we ain't doing no cap'n man who took charge of creating meet the whoops though honestly we all came together as a whole like you know I came up with the name and gave me the opportunity to just throw a name out there and it worked and yeah and from there we're just like we're gonna keep this rocket well you said you got an opportunity so like where where's the initial seed of the idea come from and like was it was the idea always like we're just going to
Starting point is 00:28:07 get a collection of different bloods from all over the other. Man, if y'all, look, if y'all really go do y'all research, we've been doing this. We just didn't have a name. You know, if you go look up, we've been remixed Bompton by YG, Westside Bompton. It's on YouTube. We probably got like two, three million views. Right. There's been going on, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:28 We just, we wasn't sharp enough to brand ourselves. We was just gang bang. So now we're like, man, let's brand ourselves, you know? and yeah we branding it now shout out slum lord jay worthy ys and the hummy hop out and mary ruger
Starting point is 00:28:44 for the west to the jays you feel me to the nellas you know we working as a whole just to shine light on our communities what's uh wacko's involvement with it um wacko involved wacko involved he in the mix he he play a big part you know
Starting point is 00:29:01 you getting him out of his shell a little bit because i had a long conversation with him here one time and he made it clear he was never going on a podcast. Yeah, yeah. And I've seen him kind of like lurking on some podcasts a little bit now. But, nah, that's, it's different. Like, you know, you might say some things and then reconsider, you know, when it's the opportunity for your little homies, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:21 and I'm saying, your young homies to win. And then you, you know that you got the voice and the strength and power to, you know. It's a big difference between answering questions for two hours versus like hanging out with other people who are primarily answering the questions. He probably felt like it was more of like a low stress environment. Yeah, yeah. See, but now it's like, okay, how can I say it? Like, these conversations are leading us to other conversations.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So it's like, why not, why not throw my output out there, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, if you know that you're a voice for the community, for your sections, and you paved the way for us to. be right here and plant the seed so it's like you know it's different man shout out wacko though man that's been a big homie really honestly he got one of my videos on world star oh what when i was uh coming up like yeah i can't even remember what song it was uh but yeah man wacko man that's a real real homie i didn't see him really like stand for what he you know what he carrying you know i ain't
Starting point is 00:30:34 seen him really knocking people out all that like real big homie i'm just riding my mini bike up the street homie knocked out sleep you know what i'm saying and then i'm you know we kids and we stop and seeing what's going on you know and he always told me closed mouth don't get fed it was one time i wanted to go to knots and i ain't had no money you know and he always told me me like close mouth don't get fed like and from there I learned it's okay to ask you know if you don't have it you know what my dad you always told me is a fish that doesn't open its mouth never gets caught yeah it's like the same same thing but you got to twist it a little bit basically if the cops get you don't say shit because if you don't say shit it's pretty hard to make a case against
Starting point is 00:31:18 yeah yeah yeah my dad didn't have much of a criminal mind but at least yeah yeah sometimes it's good to redistruct redefine and redirect man but for others have to have to to, man. And that's what the big homie do. Like, he played a part in a lot of this stuff going on outside of the media. You know, so he'd been playing that part before the media, the cameras, was able to even come around. Some niggas don't want no cameras on the scene.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You know, it was real, like, bro, you remember when, do you recall when Ti came to Compton? What year were time? I don't remember what year, but it was like 2000. two 2004 and it got messy or what happened uh oh no it's just it's just some homies wasn't jumping on that camera and and one of the homies ended up getting like 10 years you feel for that like right you know what I'm saying for going on there doing too much bragging and from there the police came and that's what we saw it was real as kids like yeah like you can't go on TV and none of them that's just for real you I'm sure you didn't
Starting point is 00:32:24 see it like yeah like the one dude you just had here and now he just got arrested. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right. That's a prime example. I was just at the studio and ran across them. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Do you, uh, do you feel like you're getting to like big homie status or does it still feel like you're a young joint? Nah, I'm like. Somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah. You don't know you're a big homie or you don't know you're an unk until you like are. I'm an unk.
Starting point is 00:32:53 At some point you just realized, like, I got nephews. I got, I mean, yeah, I got nephews. junes, you know, so I'm already an unk. But I feel like, umk is like, like if you're 20, you could be an unk. Yeah, I'm an uncle, but you're not an unk. But it's like at a certain point when like nobody would mistake you
Starting point is 00:33:11 for the young hothead crazy ass kid or whatever. That's what you've like inherited a different role. Yeah, I didn't reach a different level of, you know, my career and seeing the difference. And looking back like, damn, like that's what I came from. I'm like, you know, I'm just thankful. Just, you know, can't help but thank God and my support system. You know, everybody that's supported me to be right here, right now, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:39 people that ain't never, like I just said, never jumped on camera. Support system. My mom's brother, two brothers, my brother doing 20 years right now. And he just left Calapad and went to Centinella for getting in the incident. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I got a huge support system. Shout out the homie little L. He always been the support system.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Ocho, it's my brother, quack. Like, you know, it's always been people that's not on the scene and don't care to be on the scene and they play the part they pause to play, you know? So, yeah, like, should we be a reflection of each other? I mean, your career or your, you know, presence in the culture and everything probably could have gone a different way if you weren't so good at
Starting point is 00:34:31 building relationships and and meeting all these people and stuff because it's like it seems like you just like come into contact with a lot of important people over the years and actually managed to like build with them each one teach one and you know that's another thing like sometimes i i get i got rapper friends but we don't do music we don't based our bonds and friendships upon music like Me and a little dark, we ain't never did no music, but that's my brother. I know if I tap it, he gonna, you know, reach back out. So you never know who we locked in with him, and we ain't exposed it. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Because it's like, it seems like once the music get involved, it kind of, it's fake. You know what I'm saying? So it's hard to really like, you know, I think I like it, keeping it just, all right, we know what it is. Like, you know what I'm saying? Compared to doing music. music and just being a feature that a niggian and you know felt like they helped you with rather you shit niggins some niggins niggins gonna act like niggas don't be won something for these
Starting point is 00:35:35 features even sometimes you got to respect a nigga craft like little derr i wouldn't mind paying for a feature from little derr even though he is a brother you know what i'm saying yeah so it's like yeah you got to if you want this shit sometimes you got to you know yeah because it's like if you have a lot of times if you have a friend who's you know up in business or music or whatever yeah a lot of times their appreciation of you in some way is because they look at you as somebody who's not doing the same thing as them so you're not you're not like a you're not a pest to them like the number one thing that a superstar rapper doesn't want to deal with is their own homies being annoying and asking them to do shit that they don't want to do.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And the number one thing that a random-ass fan wants to do to a famous rapper is ask them to do a bunch of shit that they don't want to do. They want you to take a bunch of annoying-ass photos. They want to ask you what they think of their music. They want to talk to you about doing a feature or some shit. It's like, you know, like a lot of rappers, when you see them and they're around somebody for 10 years, it's like that dude that they're around is really, like,
Starting point is 00:36:45 I know duty low is mad good at not getting on Dirk's nerves. Yeah. Because he's been around him for so long that it's like, he knows how to move around him and keep, I think what it is is people already know their friends and they already used to them. It's like, like, with this rappers stuff, it's like, how can I say it? Like, rappers, like, they already got friends. They already got friends that's expecting features.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Right. So when somebody come that they just met and I think we're just about to lock in, and it's people who's been knowing you your whole life and they're looking at you like, but you don't, you don't hold nobody, nothing. So you,
Starting point is 00:37:31 some people pick and choose who they want to get this, this meal too, you know? So it's like, it's like that. Like, you got to keep in mind. Everybody keep in mind,
Starting point is 00:37:41 like it's people out there with people that love them before you loved them. You know what I'm saying? Or you knew them. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:37:50 yeah, forever, for real, for real. Definitely. Okay, question. At some point during this whole Kendrick Drake saga that we've all been observing for the last six months or whatever, did it kind of occur to you that you had a role to play in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:07 speaking on behalf of Kendrick's side slash the culture in general, because it feels like at a certain point, I don't know if you've just been consistently tweeting for all these years and I've been missing it, but at a certain point you kind of like realized you had a role to play, it felt like. Nah, you wouldn't know what's from real? Like, I don't think, like, it's a role to play. I think it's just who I am. And sometimes I can't refuse, like, to just say certain things.
Starting point is 00:38:37 But sometimes you got to understand, like, the Internet is undefeated. So you can't beat the Internet. You know what I'm saying? And I'm learning that. Like, so I'm playing the game, too. You know what I'm saying? And that's what people don't, you know what I'm saying? People will troll all.
Starting point is 00:38:53 day. People will troll you. You know, you know, people will be negative towards what you're trying to do or whatever going on or you got to say, but it's up to you to entertain it. And sometimes I just give them a debate for them to acknowledge it, what I'm saying. And then from there it's just, yeah, just bringing more traction. And from there, I'm just like, oh, I bet I'm going to clean it up, you know, and show y'all like, I'm smarter than y'all think. Right. You know what I'm saying I'm just yeah but you're you're kind of like playing the media game by just knowing that you could tweet some kind of regular shit about what's going on in that battle and everything and just because you have this connection to kendrick and shit we've seen this over and over
Starting point is 00:39:37 the past couple months that like different people will say shit about the kendrick thing and somehow they're labeled kendricks goons which is hilarious anybody from l.a. could be kendricks goon if you say it right thing i don't even think it's that i think it's just When you really genuinely love someone, you're going to treat them like your brand. You know, they faces your face, you know. So that's all it's about. Like, we ain't no, we ain't getting spoon fed. We ain't raised off silver spoons.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And when you see somebody that's inspirational to the community, like, you know, it's just a impact, like that you can't help but react. and just let people know that this person is loved. Like, it ain't just, it ain't just to be negative, you know, it's just to let people know that you loved. But would you say that you're cautious with your words? Yeah, I'm very cautious, but I know that you can troll. It's okay to troll.
Starting point is 00:40:41 But Kendrick is the most anti-troll person you could ever think of. Yeah, you're right. He barely communicates with the world besides through his music. And he never is really coming. with like some sarcastic shit some attention getting shit it's really everything he says comes i'm not trying to troll them i'm not trying to troll them for kendrick i'm trolling them for coming and paying attention and putting their nose in business that's going on here or whatever they think so it's like you know i'm speaking for i'll be speaking for me but sometimes i just be
Starting point is 00:41:18 playing like y'all don't you know like you know like man we can't get these people clarity like off us like after what we didn't been through and all that like man I'd rather go put clarity on myself like I bought my own jury you know what I'm saying 41 ain't nobody bought this for me j3 I plus my own stuff down and I got people that would like I said I got a huge support system I got people that would have did this for me but I wanted to do this for myself I felt like I deserve the trophy. I deserve to give myself. Feel me? You got to want to give it to yourself before you want to give it to other people. So, yeah, like, I'm just, I'm just learning, like, how to, how to play, you know, play and just
Starting point is 00:42:04 get their attention. And that's it. That's all, man. It feels like a lot of the conversations that have sprung up from the Kendrick and Drake thing in some ways are like, it's not just Kendrick and Drake. It's like, it's caused conversation about the West Coast and what the role of L.A. in hip hop is. And a lot of it is like real hip hop versus commercialized hip hop becomes like a major, major conversation. Yeah. And it feels like in general, the West Coast who I think like for the past, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:35 20, 30 years have felt kind of marginalized at times, you know? Like the West Coast feels like they've had such an important contribution to hip hop, but sometimes the hip hop world isn't looking to the West Coast as much as people would appreciate from out here. Yeah. One thing you got to know, like, you got to be serious about your art and craft,
Starting point is 00:42:57 and that's what he is. Like, he's a prime example of being serious about your art and craft. So it's like, when you see that, like, you got to find a way to brand yourself too. Like,
Starting point is 00:43:10 you can't, like, what I'm doing, don't, like who I'm next to don't dictate how great I am. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, you know, I love bro. Like that's, you know, so some things people will say,
Starting point is 00:43:28 yeah, yeah, I'm just entertained, but it ain't, you know, it ain't nothing to put negative on what he's doing. He didn't do nothing but make it possible for everybody to have an opportunity. So we got to acknowledge that. Have you, like, been speaking to Kendrick? about the beef throughout all this? Yes, was crazy, man, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:48 I love, bro, to where just, I don't got to talk to you every day to, you know, represent. You know what I'm saying? What you represent? You know what I'm saying? I don't got to talk to you every day. Like, when you see somebody work hard
Starting point is 00:44:04 and unlocked doors that we can't reach him, we don't get access to, so it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just like, it's just, It just put more confidence in me and what I'm doing and who I am as an artist. Like, shine light on me as an artist. It's like if that's really your friend from back in the day and you run into him or you happen to talk to him or whatever. We talked. We didn't talk.
Starting point is 00:44:31 But it's kind of weird to make the conversation about the thing that's the most heated, clickbaitable shit right now rather than just talking to them like a person. Look, bro, we talk. We ain't talked about. ain't had one talk about this. This is just, you know, I'm from here. He's, he come from a place that I come from.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So, I don't know, I always said certain shit. Ain't acceptable. And, yeah, like, like I said,
Starting point is 00:45:01 he had representation of, well, I represent, what my city represent, uh, being progressive, like,
Starting point is 00:45:14 you know, inspirational to the whole land. United States of America. Yeah, America. Yeah, people misuse America. He, he know how to make his voice powerful. And he, artists, we won't get again.
Starting point is 00:45:35 It feels that way? You think it'll never be another artist. Lil Wayne or artists we won't get again. You know, so they're just special in their own way. Right. Yeah. It feels like with Kendrick being as silent as he always is, since he just, like, doesn't really communicate with the public,
Starting point is 00:45:52 certain people like you or a DJ head have kind of, like, risen up to, like, take the place of that. Whereas, like, having the conversations on Twitter and stuff, a lot of people that I hadn't really seen having viral tweets, just consistently having viral as tweets as a result of the situation. This is all about hit a. I'm trying to shine. on what I'm doing, playing is smarter out now.
Starting point is 00:46:19 What happened to that boy? Out now. I got projects. Hit a man. Wake up call, too. You feel me? I'm only in a battle with the older version of me. You know, the old me, I'm aiming to be a better version of myself.
Starting point is 00:46:37 You know what I'm saying? Every day, you know, I got to be better than I was yesterday in my own way. but yeah this ain't about this ain't about this ain't just about Kendrick it's about me too it's about you know what I believe in and what I define okay that's a question I have I was watching the noisy video where to like what was that day like there's like one of the few on-camera interviews that Kendrick's done and he's like hyping you up making it clear that he guess what was that day that's so crazy I wasn't there for that I didn't know he did that really Yes, I wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Like, I could have been there, but some things like, just because, like I said, I'm not trying to just be next to a person, and that did tell you how great I am. I could have been there. But just because he's somewhere, I don't want to go there just because he there is genuine. So it's like that day, that was a special day, like, because my grandmother and my grandfather was there, you know what I'm saying? They both are not here no more, you feel? So that's a touchy.
Starting point is 00:47:42 You feel me situation, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, uh, that's just, that shit just that. Like, my mama was on drugs. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:47:53 So that shit is different. For real, for real, like, niggas don't know what that shit feel like. You know what I'm saying? Really. Like on some real shit.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Real shit. And nicks ain't here no more. So I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. What's your relationship with your mom right now? It's good. She cleaned. Got better.
Starting point is 00:48:11 10 years later, she's clean. She's been clean for 10 years? That video was probably like 10 years. Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's been some time now, but it's just a blessing just to overcome something that's people don't be. Some people get told they ain't going to live long. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of people don't know in this stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:33 People don't speak on like my grandmother and grandfather moved to Compton. I was 50 years ago. You know what I'm saying? 50 years ago. My granny had a house in Compton for 50 years when Compton was like Beverly Hills. Do you know that? You post that picture on Twitter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Compton was like a, it was all different races, you know, different, you know, there. So it wasn't black, a black community. So is that when like white flight takes place at some point and all the white people take off? Yes, that's what happened. In the, what, in the 80s? Like, was that like a reaction to crack era? I think like the 60s. Oh, all the way back then.
Starting point is 00:49:15 70s. Yeah. It's when it started taking place for show. Like, and I think that's when the gangs start coming in. And from there, people, yeah, yeah, we got to find a place for these people to stay in. And build our communities. And from there, that's when the black communities came in and the gangs. And then people start leaving and going to different places.
Starting point is 00:49:37 But, yeah, Compton was white. All white. White people. So it's crazy how I transition from white to black. And now it was just a, all just negative. And negative impact, gang violence. I, it's just crazy. My grandpa, like, he probably never expected that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 My grandpa from Dallas, Texas. Right. People don't even like, like, bro, I call my mama right now. My mama, last name is Alvarez. You see? Like, even my grandpa's Mexican. Alvarez is on my birth certificate. You know, when my mama was a kid, bro,
Starting point is 00:50:14 she used to get a whooping for saying she white. Really? Yes. My mom used to say she's white and get a whoopin. And my grandpa used to tell her, you ain't white. You ain't white. You ain't white. And she used to be like, but I'm white, daddy, I'm white.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I'm white. And she believed that she was white because when she was growing up in that community, it was a racist community. You know what I'm saying? And people, people being black and mixed and they had to deal with that, with that racist community and people being calling names and, you know? So. But so are you in any way, like, conflicted about the fact that in order to find peace
Starting point is 00:50:56 of mind for you, it's easier to just move somewhere that realistically is like a much higher percentage of white people? Is there a big part of you that wishes that you could stay and improve your own community rather than just move away. I mean, yeah, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm improve my community whether I'm here or not, just like Kendrick. That's, that's the goal to influence the community to be special and great.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And yeah, just overcome what we was taught, how we was led in the wrong directions. Like, you know, when you go to other places and it's peaceful, you go on vacation, that's what I want my kids to feel. feel every day. Feel me? I want my mama to know what that feel like before she knows, like to get a car
Starting point is 00:51:44 that herself was buried, like, or kill or anything. You know what I'm saying? Like my mama, when I got shot, bro, when I was 14, bro, my mama came outside and saw me laying on that floor. You feel me? So you can imagine how heartbreaking
Starting point is 00:51:57 that is for her to go from watching everything she didn't seen in Compton to her kid going to prison for 25 years. You know, and she still went to work every day. She went to work every day, and my brother still went out and did what he did to put money in his own pocket. And I still did what I did to go out and put some money in my own pocket,
Starting point is 00:52:20 and they got me shot. I'm going outside selling weed because I had payless shoes. And I got shot just being in L.A. at the wrong place at the wrong time. And my mama just told me, like, you're going to come in a house in like 10, 15 minutes. And next thing, you know, a car rolled up, and a lady got shot. She died in the Hoovers. I just lived in the Hoovers at this time, you know. And, you know, we're from Compton, so it's no problem, you know.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But you got shot accidentally. I wasn't somebody trying to come at you. Accidentally. I was at the wrong place at the wrong time. A little kid sneaking selling weed. My mama didn't even know I was selling weed. I don't even think she really know, like, what I was doing to this day. So you didn't think you were taking on some big risk by being out there selling weed?
Starting point is 00:53:04 At this time, I was young and I didn't have no guidance. So I was just going outside trying to hustle and get some money and buy stuff that I was seeing. And this was before the Internet. This was before all that. Like this was just, like, Myspace Day is like that's all we had was MySpace before Instagram. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like when you got to go and make something to yourself without the world having access to you, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:33 You forced to figure it out. And I was forced to figure it out. And I mean, everything happened for a reason. I got the experience that I got now, you know, and I know what I know now, you know. So I don't regret it, but that's still, you know, just something that a nigga never wants to be my experience, you, feel me?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Right. You don't want your nobody. You don't want your mama to experience. You land on the floor being shot. Don't know if you're going to survive. You feel me? Going through major surgeries, you feel me? being in a hospital for a month.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I was in a coma. Feel me? Like, for real. Like, niggas don't know. Like, feel me? When you look at that, did that change how you lived your life? Or were you just even more?
Starting point is 00:54:19 That was crazy. At this time, like, I was still a kid, so it was okay to be a kid. So I wanted to know what it was like to ride a skateboard. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:31 My mama tell you, I could call her right now and she'd tell you, that's the first thing I said, like, border. I want to try something different. This was just me talking.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And once I got out that hospital, I went straight to banging again. But I wasn't off the porch yet. Like, I jumped off the porch after I was shot. And it led me to where it's like, damn, like, you know, shit, damn if you do, damn if you don't. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because, I mean, you were young.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Getting shot as a young dude like that, in your head, it's got to like, it's partially like a medal of honor. Yeah. Right? Like, because I watched your Cam Capone interview where you went into like full detail about the two times you got shot. I won't make you like rehash that here or anything. But as much as these stories are like really horrific, I could also tell that you had a degree of pride
Starting point is 00:55:24 from surviving something that crazy. What, man, what? For sure, for sure. I'm a living testimony. It's people that got shot one time and didn't make it. I got shot one time that day. and I made it and I got shot again after that at 16
Starting point is 00:55:39 just at this time I think shit my mama told me don't walk and I end up still walking and yeah somebody just pulled it up you know and did what you know the city teach you know what you go on TV
Starting point is 00:55:55 and watch and that's what people that's the problem today people see stuff on TV and go do it you know see stuff on the internet and go do it You remember when they's, like how people do videos and they say, don't do this at home, don't do this at home.
Starting point is 00:56:11 People got to learn. Don't do this at home. This is not, yeah, this is not, this is not that. St. This is not no, no test crash dummy tool. You feel me? Now, I ain't no crash dummy tools. So, yeah, like, yeah, that was, that would hit different.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, and I just, I'm just blessed you, feel, me, that I'm able to still be here and empower my family and put food on the table. And when that was going on, my mama wasn't no crack, you know, I don't crack on nothing, you know what I'm saying? So for her to go from having, my mama was one of the, she knows what it was like to have money
Starting point is 00:56:54 and, and richest guys and baby daddies and, you know, so it's like to go from being, having everything. She used to get cars from her husband and matching cars and everything. Like so to go from that to crack, you know what I'm saying? It had to be something hurtful. And I understand.
Starting point is 00:57:19 At the time, I didn't want to talk to her. I mean, I had to, like, I don't know. I couldn't, I couldn't judge her. So I had to learn not to judge her and see her like that. For me, it wasn't easy for me to see her like that. I was going months without even talking to her. And I'm like, man, I ain't going to lose my mama, feel me. Being selfish.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Like, people were selfish to me. Feeling me? Like, nigger ain't going to do that. Like, no, I'm going to break that cycle. I just can't even imagine what it must be like for a young kid to, like, have to see their mom doing crazy shit, being outside. And it's like, it's almost like they're possessed. Man, look.
Starting point is 00:57:57 It's like a spirit that answered them. Everybody out there, like, niggis think this, this ain't no movie role. you don't know what it's like for your mama to walk up to you and ask you for $10 to buy crack. You feel me? And she's telling you, son, I need this. You know what I'm saying? And you're like, man.
Starting point is 00:58:14 You feel me? Like, damn, like, all right, mama, I love you. You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking. I'm a, or she's right there asking your other homies for money. You know what I'm saying? And you, when you're growing up, you're seeing other people's moms go through this.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And your mama wasn't. And then you see your mama go down that road. It's like, you can't judge nobody at any moment it can take place you feel me like how any moment and you in hollywood mail rolls and all that and shit transpire like that's how i go it can take place at any moment you know what i'm saying so never get your hopes up with a dream you know what i'm saying like or think it's something something that it ain't it's it must be crazy to see your parents in that position too because you know how little respect the average person treats a crackhead with
Starting point is 00:59:02 What? You know? What? But then as I... Imagine people treating your blood like that. I never treated crack heads no type of way, though, because I had friends who mama was crackheads. You know what I'm saying? But I didn't understand it as a kid.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But then when you see your mama on it, your mama, it's going, it's going, yeah, it's going hit a trigger for sure. And then from there, it's like, you either going to give up or you're going to motivate. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man. I'm for the motivator. I'm for the motivator to quit, walk away from this, and understand, like, it's more life out there, mama.
Starting point is 00:59:41 You feel me? And God just blessed me for me not being selfish. You know what I'm saying? Because that's all I seen. Like, bro, I'm trying to tell you, like, a nigga used to get, like, you know what it's like when you got other siblings and they play with you until you was adopted? Like, yeah, I went through that.
Starting point is 01:00:03 I went through that being told because when I'm seeing my sisters getting stuff on Christmas and my brother and I didn't get nothing, it was times I only got a buzz light year. You feel me? For real. A one buzz light year toy. You feel me? My daddy wasn't there. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:00:19 I can't even really, like, I just wrote a rap the other day. Like, I don't even, can't even tell you, I can't even tell you how my father sound. You feel me? My mama was my mother and my father. Right. You feel me? So from there, when my. siblings treated me like, you know, that's a regular sibling thing.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Like, we take it personal, but that ain't something you're supposed to take personal. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, as I'm taking it personal, it's just love. And it's a tough way of love. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, even when they came to see me in the hospital, bro, I told him, like, I swear of God, I told them, y'all don't love me.
Starting point is 01:00:56 At 14 years old, they all walked in the hospital to see me. I told them, y'all don't love me. You know what I'm saying? And it was mentally, I was mentally there because they told me you was adopted. Oh, yeah, somebody just left you on the porch. You know what I'm saying? So I started to believe that. Really?
Starting point is 01:01:12 You know what I'm saying? So they would tell you that, like, just fucking with you or they were really trying to Yeah, just playing with you. Just playing. But then, you know, you're a little brother. You don't know that they plan. And then from there, my mama would tell me, like, you ain't adopted. Like, I probably want to go cry about it to my mom.
Starting point is 01:01:27 You know what I'm saying? As a kid. That's why you've got to be very careful with being. sarcastic or doing any kind of trolling shit with kids because they don't have the mental resources to understand. That's real. That's real. My girl must remind me that frequently. You can't just like say some joking shit
Starting point is 01:01:41 to your kid because they don't know the difference. Was there like a little mini earthquake before? I don't know. You just said it was all good. Oh, okay. I just saw one of the skateboards move on the wall and I was convinced that it was a you got to teach the world. I didn't want to interrupt you though. You got to teach the world what you want your kids to be taught. Yeah. No, and that's
Starting point is 01:01:59 what I'm learning too. Like, Like, why, why is it a problem when one individual will do it, but the internet can do it all day? Mm. But I get it once you become a voice and the eyes on you. Yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, like, if you want to teach your kid to be a nice person, it's also tough to have your kid be on the internet. Oh, yeah, I know. The internet massively rewards being mean, cruel, sarcastic, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:02:27 I know. It's like, it's like this video that will be popping up on YouTube. my son always want to watch it. He four years old, about to be five on the ninth. And my birthday on the fifth, his birthday four days after mine. My sister's birthday that same day. So he always want to go to YouTube. It's like some skibbitty toilet, something.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Oh, my God, that thing, yeah. Bro, that's so weird, right? And it's just, it's just bothering to me because who's teaching this to their kid? A toilet with a head coming out of it. Like, that, that thing. me off a little bit so I'll instantly tell him like he could be watching it and I'll be like hey like he's gonna he gonna turn on his own like because he know he ain't supposed to be watching it but when you hear that song in the cold part I end up finding out where that song is from bro that was a
Starting point is 01:03:16 real hit you never I don't know what song yeah I've seen a bunch of the videos but I don't know if I know like a specific it's a it's a song like a song I think it's a girl song and and they just speed up the voice and put it on that whatever that animation thing is, whatever, and they got all the kids blown. And my kid's only four, and that's all he wanted to watch.
Starting point is 01:03:39 If he see that toilet thing on any phone, anything, he's going to sneak and watch it. I subscribe to that channel when I first heard about it, maybe like a year ago or some shit, and it's just the weirdest shit ever. These crazy like end of the world type animations with the toilet, with the head
Starting point is 01:03:56 in it. And it's just like, and they're doing different? I don't get it. They're doing different versions of it. I don't get where it came from. I'm like, you were probably the last person I would have ever expected to bring that shit up on this podcast. Because I've never had anybody mention it in real life to me,
Starting point is 01:04:10 even though I've known about it from it. It's like the weirdest shit. Yeah. I'm like, I have to look it up and be like, man, I know other people kids is catching on to this. And they are.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Like, it's other kids who really love it. Yeah. And they, yeah, that's all they want to see. Like they, it's like an addiction.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think it's the song. Yeah. It's the song. And then when I looked up the song, like, because I had to do my research on it. And she like, man, what is this song? And then, you know what I'm saying? I seen the original song. It's like somebody put it on TikTok or Instagram or something, and they showed the original.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Yeah. He. This one, the Scatman is like the main version of it or something? I don't know. I don't think it's that. No, it ain't that. It ain't that. It's a girl song.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's a girl song. Like, it was like a hit song when we were. was younger and they you know nowadays they're flipping everything on the internet yeah everything they remix and they they they got ways to do stuff we never heard when we was young it's like people gave up on making new music they like let's take some old music and speed it up and shit like that and also the labels the labels have people who work for them and it's their job to basically try to make old songs pop off on tic-tok yeah but you know they can get a ton of streaming revenue yeah but it's crazy like that old song like i don't
Starting point is 01:05:28 I feel like when they really blow up, you're not going to gain nothing because you never gave this price from nothing. You know what I'm saying? So you can't expect the songs to blow up if they're not your original creation. And that's what people don't know either. They're just making other creations of other people's music. You want to be your own creator. Like, I'm learning to recreate songs I did before. Really?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Beats, whatever. Oh, like, yeah, I got a song I just did with a feature. and I recreated the hook. You know what I'm saying? Just because... Just because that's what I've been hearing and I'm like, okay, I'm going to recreate my own music. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Instead of recreating somebody else's. Recreate my own music. Okay, that song I made 10 years ago. Now people... Okay, well, understand. Okay, this is... This is like another... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Creation of that. You know what Kids bop is? Kids bop? Yeah. It's like some kids' sheds... shit where they take popular songs and then they like have young kids redo the song and make like a simpler version of it for kids and my kid is starting to get into it and they'll be like old 80s songs and she likes the kids bob version of it and it's just like super cleaned up and it's got like
Starting point is 01:06:44 a 10 year old girl singing it and shit and it's nah yeah it's a weird yeah i just found out about it at lego land actually yeah i went to lego land and i heard my kids started singing along to one of these songs and getting really into it. And I figured out this is kids. That's what you know your kid is tuned in. My kid has crossed a line too, is I realized that my kid went from like being real curious about people taking photos with me
Starting point is 01:07:08 to like not giving a fuck at all. Yeah. She used to think it was real interesting. And now she doesn't care at all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They get over stuff pretty fast.
Starting point is 01:07:16 But right now my son, he, he want to watch whatever he want to watch. If I go to certain things on TV, he going to tell me he don't want to watch that. He's telling me like, nope. And it's the most craziest things that I would expect him to watch that he want to watch. So it's tripping me out because now they don't even want to watch stuff where they're talking.
Starting point is 01:07:38 We want them to watch stuff where they're talking. They want to watch stuff where it's just animation and, you know, little... And it's so crazy because my son... I'm learning to watch what I let my son even see because... when I'm playing call of duty, he's laughing. When he sees somebody get shot, he laughed.
Starting point is 01:08:00 So when he sees somebody get hurt on TV, he laughed. So that's why now he think it's cool to touch people. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, they're still kids. So you understand the development of it, you know? So I can't, you know, I understand. It's a kid. Can't judge him, you know.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Just got to teach them and guide him. There's a lot of show like that. Like, I never realize how offensive the rap music I listened to is until I played around my kid. Yeah, for sure. And I'm like, wow, he just said bitch like 15 times in that chorus. Yeah. And kind of this shit, you're like, I probably can't play around anymore anymore. So do you know it's like to get in the car and just ride to what you keep?
Starting point is 01:08:42 Oh, yeah. That same video that you kid watched your whole day on YouTube? For my kid, it's play Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah? Taylor Swift. She's just, Taylor Swift is so much better than every other musician in her opinion.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Yeah, shout out Taylor Swift. She'll say you listen to rap music, and it's almost like she's saying, like, I'm better than you. Did you see that? Did you see that A-Sap Rocky Taylor Swift video? That was a crazy-ass video. Oh, my goodness. That was one of the craziest videos I ever seen. And I loved it, though.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Yeah. I loved it because it's just creative. Yeah. And that's something that we need just to, you know, have a good treatment or whatever. Like, he's doing. unthinkable. He's in the art world. He's probably
Starting point is 01:09:26 upside down and the quarter polly. He's getting it was, it looked like it was latte in the toilet.
Starting point is 01:09:35 He's getting latte out the, like the little thing on the car. A lot of that looked like the kind of images that like AI makes like just super random shit
Starting point is 01:09:44 that you would never be able to think of normally. I don't really know exactly where it came from. But yeah, I don't know. It's crazy though to me
Starting point is 01:09:51 that like that video seems like it should have got so much attention. but somehow like, and I say this as somebody who was a fan of Rocky since day one, but it just feels like people. I'm a fan of Rocky. I'm been a fan of Rocky since day one.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Y'all, you ain't never heard his project with Schoolboy Q? Would they have a whole project? Yes. What was it called? I forgot what it's called. I forgot what it's called. Why would we never get a black hippie album? Boy.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Remember that? What's going on with that? You probably would have a feature on that. Man. Did they have a whole project? You got to. I understand, man. Some stuff be working and you always, you know, find new directions.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Sometimes it's like you got songs that may never come out. You know what I'm saying? That happens in music. Wait, so you're saying this album might have never came out? I don't know. I don't know if I think it did come out. It came out, right? Yeah, it came on.
Starting point is 01:10:49 They have a bunch of songs. Hands on the wheel is part of the biggest one. Yeah. If I'm not sure, me, that's the, that's the type of stuff we want to influence our people to do. That's how years later. I think his brother got, I think his cousin got a Grammy. Did he get a Grammy for that? But something, let me see.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I'm just finding songs, not the full project. Which is kind of reassuring because I felt like I should not have. Yeah, baby King won a Grammy. Yeah. That's the type of. Yeah, that's what we want to influence our people to be. Great. Years later down the line.
Starting point is 01:11:29 But you see, that's the thing. I can admit that it's okay to not be ready. It's okay to know, like, it wasn't your time yet. Like, I didn't saw you on Melrose looking grimy, greedy, and I tell you, like, one day I'm going to be on your show, like. Really? But I knew it wasn't my time yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I didn't got up on you and told you, like, yeah, like, I'm here. Like, I'm here to J3, like, bro, from bombing. And, yeah, I'm going to be on your show one day, like, when the time is right, you know, and it's okay to know when you're not ready. And I understand why Kenjie put other people in position to do the things they do. Because sometimes we just ain't ready. We still, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:13 But even in, like, 2017, I interview with you would have been fire. It's just like, when I look back on it, I'm like, damn, my knowledge of hip-hop was so much more limited. and I like really was just getting started in 2017. Like I knew I knew what I was listening to, but I didn't have like the full encyclopedic knowledge of all these different cities that kind of have a, I don't want to even claim I have it now,
Starting point is 01:12:37 but I've just gotten so much better at like knowing in general what's going on. Yeah, that part. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because right then and now, I'm like, man, I already know you on a whole different, you're looking at a whole different, you know, category and catalog and music.
Starting point is 01:12:53 so I respected that. Like, I respected that, okay, when my time comes, it's gonna be my time. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, for sure. Like, yeah, people out here, man, on some real, like, read more books, man. Shout out Rick Ross and 50 Cent, man.
Starting point is 01:13:11 You know, they got some dope books, and that's the thing, like, people ain't teaching us this type of stuff. Or make sure you get that James version of the Bible. Yeah, like people ain't teaching us, this type of stuff, like to read and go and, you know, see what's out there that you don't know, you know?
Starting point is 01:13:31 So, like, I didn't been in the L.A. County Jail with somebody that couldn't read, and he was a whole different race. And we're getting into it, you know what I'm saying, and about peanut butter and dumb, like, you know what I'm saying? And then he come tell me, like, like, he tell me flat off, too, like, someone like come up in there, like, yeah, you're, like, as soon as I land, boom, you know what I'm saying? I am who I am. Boom, I'm J3.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Westside. You, who, who I'm saying? And from there, people like, J3, like, through all through the sales, like, I'm already in my cell. People are like, yeah, you be rapping. Like, I'm like, yeah, I'll be rapping. I ain't in here on, none of that, though. Like, you put me, like, you notice your introduction, like, once you walk in, like, and
Starting point is 01:14:18 that's, that hit different. Like, when you land somewhere, you ain't never been in this people, you don't know and they just know you from seeing you on videos and music and from there they're like do you go do you feel me so but do you I'm like damn like did you not want to be known as a rapper in that environment because you don't know what's so crazy because you don't know what's so crazy I was looking at probably like 10 years at that moment or more oh so I was just like shit at the time that woke my game level like that was my wake-up call like damn like and then people coming up to me Like, man, you're fucking no music, man.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Woo, who was somebody who told me like, man, that brother then passed away and he used to love my music. So that's different. Like, that was influential. Like, that influenced me to be like, man, I'm about to get out and really get back to this music because I was gone for like eight months.
Starting point is 01:15:10 So it was like, damn, like, I'm looking at like, damn, I could come back and love people won't even know who I am no more. Like, it's possible. Because there's new rappers coming out every day now. I'm like, yeah, like, I got to get back out there. And that's what I told them. I'm like, look, man, I'm an artist, man.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I'm just, I'm just get back out there and get back on my music. And they're like, all right, bet you want to go back to your music? Take this deal. Boom, all right, boom. Took that. End up in there for like six months, eight months. And then got up out there. And every six then, that's all this being.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Like, but you see, like, just because what I'm around, that ain't influenced me to just be like, yeah, I'm a, I'm a move. right and I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna carry myself accordingly, but I'm not just out here stupid. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Out that, all that, like, nah. So when's the last time you got locked up? I don't even want to go there.
Starting point is 01:16:06 It's been a while? I don't want to even go there. You just heard me? Yeah, I don't want to go there because I'm- I'm blessed, no. I'm blessed. I don't even have a criminal record. Whatever happened then, it happened then.
Starting point is 01:16:18 You were underage? No, I wasn't under age I was probably like 19, 18 You know And then from there I'm like, yeah Like I gotta switch it up once I get up
Starting point is 01:16:32 Out this situation Just watch the people I surround myself with You know what I'm saying And watch what positions I put myself in You know what I'm saying So as I'm doing the music I'm finding out new things And you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:16:48 So a nigga like yeah that nigga ain't going back there. Like, you know what I'm saying? When you see niggas really go get life and that shit, it feels different. And your brother already doing 20 years, like, man, I'm not feeling to go out and add more pain to my mama. You know what I'm saying? After, you know, like I said, I can't be selfish. So this is my way of not being selfish.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Hit a J3, meet the whoops. Yeah. This is my way of not being selfish. And keeping the light on what I got going on and those around me, going on. Is your brother supposed to be getting home soon? Yeah, he's about to be. Like very soon? Very soon. But you got to remember, I just told you,
Starting point is 01:17:27 just had an incident that led him to get transferred. Right. Sent to the whole, and some most stuff. Like, that's the thing. People out there, y'all don't know what it is like to be in the penitentiary and get possibly stabbed or anything
Starting point is 01:17:43 and then have to get moved to another prison. That's the devil. That's how the devil work. And then from there, on way about to be home he he did 20 years already and then get possibly stabbed somebody try to stab him tweaking off drugs you got to understand like everybody ain't right in the mind around you so but a lot of times bad shit can happen towards the end of your sentence right yeah they'll try to fuck with you or try to that's what i'm saying that's bro that was that's been the saying for years even in the county even in the county that's the saying like bro niggas will
Starting point is 01:18:19 Some niggas won't let you. Like, bro, I didn't have a nigga tell me, like, man, stay up in this motherfuck. Like, I'm like, man, I'm about to, I'm learning. Don't even tell these niggas what you got going on with your case. Just sit in here and tell you out. Right. Because these niggas is telling the nigger like, man, look, hey, bro, beat some niggas up in here. Ooh, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:40 He's some peanut butter. You work out. Yeah. Yeah, chill out. Ooh, kick your feet up. Say so bad. Like, nah. Nah.
Starting point is 01:18:48 I don't like being with, like, I don't know what it is about me. I get like a little claustrophobic when I'm in just too many, just too many people. And I'm just like in a close. Like, bro, that, for real, for real, this is like endangered, whatever that place is. Like, for the people that survive, going in there and coming out with their reputation, what it is, as what it is, like, no, you wonder why fours is the way he is. You know what I'm saying? He is a way, for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Yeah, because that's what it'll do to you. It'll corrupt your brain. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And some niggas think it's cool, some niggas don't. You know what I'm saying? Some niggins don't make it like, yeah, it's good to go through that. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:19:41 So when niggas tell me like, man, like, yeah, chill out. Like, I'm like, yeah, I know. not to tell these niggas what I got going on because they're going to make it to where I don't get out this mother. And like I was just telling you, the dude who I was telling you about the Mexican. He was, you know, salute to my Mexicans, man. Like I said, my mama last name is Alvarez.
Starting point is 01:20:03 So I embraced the Mexicans communities. You know what I'm saying? So when he tell me like, yeah, like, so like I said, I didn't get a chance to finish the story. So when I go to the cell, he's like, When he hear, like, I'm, like, I'm, like, niggins think I'm a rapper. He's like, oh, you're a rapper, huh? Like, oh, I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:20:23 He, like, like, like, basically because at this time, did nobody, you don't know, like, oh, yeah, how you're supposed to eat and put your food under the sale and, like, shit like that. So I'm like, yeah, like, I don't know that. I just took the, I didn't want to eat the food, so I put it back under the cell. And he, some people really respect the sale. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:45 Like, this is my home. Like, yeah, like they say, this is where you live temporarily. One day the lady asked me where you live. I told her where I live. She's like, no, where you live here? I don't live here. I don't live here. But that's what they consider it.
Starting point is 01:21:01 You're home while you're there. So that's how people, when they sell, like, they cheated like their bedroom. And there's something. Like, you ain't never seen hit boy. He'd do an interview and he say, like, niggas come to his cell. tell him like I'm not rap right to even have a cellie. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm capable of?
Starting point is 01:21:22 You know what I'm saying? And then from there, it's up to you to go somewhere else or come in there and find out what that person got to offer you in that cell. Yeah. You feel me? So at this time, the guy he was just like, like, yeah, like if you want some rapper shit,
Starting point is 01:21:41 like, oh, you can go somewhere else. Like with that, like, whoa, my mind going nowhere. I'm staying right here. And then he's like, you know, from there, boom. He, you know, once the guy told me, like, go eat the peanut butter and all that, I get to eating the peanut butter, getting bigger. I'm eating peanut butter just randomly, just eating peanut butter instead of food. Just to gain weight.
Starting point is 01:22:06 Just to gain weight. It's getting, it blow people up. That's how people. It's like one of the most high-calorie things you would eat. So from there, I'm eating the peanut butter. I'm coming back from court. and you know people sometimes the police
Starting point is 01:22:21 you could have a sack lunch and they'll take your sack lunch and you are just dropping in the cell so when you go to certain holding tanks it's just a bunch of peanut butters I start picking all the peanut butters up and taking them to my cell I didn't been coming from court in the police slapped all the peanut
Starting point is 01:22:40 butter's out of my hand so at this moment I'm already ordering peanut butter from sale I mean from a store And then the guy like, yeah, like When he see me coming in with the other peanut butter I'm still want these peanut butter And he like, man, let me get them
Starting point is 01:22:55 Get one of them peanut butter, but oh, oh, my, my. I'm like, man, I'm trying to get my weight up right now. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody got the right to go get their own peanut butter. It's free. You know what I'm saying? And then when he heard me say that, like he thought about it. He like, nah, get your weight up then.
Starting point is 01:23:15 better and threw it back on the bed and I had to tell him like bro I don't care about a peanut butter like you know what I'm saying like if that's the case like you know what I'm saying so from there it was like negative energy in the cell and then from there the guy end up coming to me and telling me like we end up getting along you like man I fuck with you j3 like but you know even after like he like yeah if it goes up we're gonna get down like you know what I'm saying like I respect it that I told it for sure bad like you know I'm saying like because I understand. I understand when you went here how I go.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's program time. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, for real, for real. Like, yeah, niggas don't know what that's like. Like, program time. And they really got it to where, like, some niggas come in there and you to opt and niggas be like, hey, man, some niggas see you instantly and be like,
Starting point is 01:24:06 hey, yeah, nigga, you're from where are we from the program? Like, boom. And then from there, be like, all right, bet. All right, bet, yeah. And some niggas get to talk. Some niggas get straight to walking to the back. Like, bro, as soon as you come from where you coming from, you know, they make you, they search you, do them, do them super searches. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:24:25 Niggas don't even get to wash their hands yet and already got a fade. Like, as soon as you get to the cell, like, oh, you're from where? Oh, yeah, you got four phase in here. You feel, I didn't see a nigga roll it up and have the deep team. And you know what I'm saying? Because I knew him from the streets. So I'm like, nah, like, at the end of the day, we in a crib dorm. And I'm like, man, I'm not, I know that nigga from the streets.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Like, I'm not feeling like, I'm not feeling that just happened to him. Like, you know what I'm saying? Because that's how I was taught. Protect was yours, you feel me? And he was a homie. So I'm like, nah, like, y' ain't fin to just do him bad. Like, you know what I'm saying? He got his one fade.
Starting point is 01:24:59 And then once he got dropped, like, I got in the middle of it. Like, no, like, break that. Like, you know, why are you hitting him while you're you on the ground? And he's like, man, these nicks chipping my homies. Like, I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I mean, the nigg is smoking your homie. So it was like, I understood. So a nigga like, all, I understand.
Starting point is 01:25:14 But you're not just, you're not feeling like hitting my on the ground. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all are two ops. Y'all going to get your all fade. And then I orchestrated it to where they got their fade. And then from there. But for you, it wasn't like that. You walk in and they don't just like start line to know for you.
Starting point is 01:25:30 I'm not going to say it ain't like that. It's like that for everybody. Okay. It ain't nobody excluded from this program. If you're a gang member. If you're a gang member, even if you're a non-affiliate, Non-affiliates got fight nights. They got days where niggas are bet top romans on you.
Starting point is 01:25:45 And be like, yeah, it's non-affiliate fight night. You feel like to get a fay. There's niggies that go in there and be gangbanging and then go in there and see what it's like and be a non-affiliate. And then, yeah, people don't know you here. So you're a non-affiliate to their eyes. And if they do want you to do non-affiliate fight night,
Starting point is 01:26:01 you participate in. Yeah, if you participate in that, that's you. That's going to follow you, though. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's the thing you got to know about jail. Whatever you do in there is going to follow you. You could tell a nigga, oh, now I ain't trying to fight today.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Like, that's going to travel. Yeah, man, I ran in the woo-to-woo. He's talking about he wasn't trying to fight today. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Niggas like, what? Then you get back with the homies and the homies like, nigga what?
Starting point is 01:26:29 You're trying to fight today. Nick come to the back. You're going to get deeped. You see what I mean? Like then from there, yeah, nigga, go to the back. Like I said, the nigga, when he took his fate after, you know, like I said, boom,
Starting point is 01:26:42 the Mexicans, it's so crazy how they help us. They help us fight each other. They, like, they'll support us squabbling, and we will support them squabbling, equally.
Starting point is 01:26:52 It's a respecting on another level, but, like, I, yeah, that's shit different, but on game, like,
Starting point is 01:27:00 they'll be blocking the cells why our niggas are squabbling. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, once a nigga be like, we're from the program,
Starting point is 01:27:08 I'm like the other race go and just start standing all around like spreading out and making it look like niggas just talking, niggas is fake shit and niggas don't be really shit and niggas flushing the toilet, everything. Niggas under the stairs wobbling. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:27:23 And then from there, you know what I'm saying? Like, nigga we, after he just took his fade, you know, the police walking down, boom. So everybody back to normal, boom. Niggas back faking. Like there's nothing going on. Police walk just to see what's going know, as soon as they done, it's back to regular program.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Boom, the cell, the cell's still open. You got to keep in mind, it's other, like, other, how can I say? Other parts of the jail, once the slider pop open, the police is walking through the whole jail. They walking through this whole perimeter of the building. You know what I'm saying? So once they get the walking, they pace through the whole building, like step by step. And if it's people there, they're going to come and check it out.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Boom. People will go back to normal and then get back to regular program. And then from there, the slider can stay open for a minute. So from there, you get to find out where other people from on the other side. And niggas like, oh, yeah, nigga, you just rolled it up. Boom. That's the worst thing they ever do is roll it up. Don't ever roll it up.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Me, a rote it up. Man, nigger, rolled it up. I didn't even know he rolled it up because that's how they do you. They will take you, bro. Like how you got this. room next door, they will take you and throw you in the dorm right next door. And from there, boom, once that slider, like, say it's a slider right here that open, and then you walk through, boom, okay, boom, from there, the slider stay open for a couple
Starting point is 01:28:51 seconds. So from there, people get to talk from the other side, and then they can be like, oh, he up in here and then, niggas be like, man, I just took a phase with this nigga right here. And they're like, man, that nigga just rode it up out of here. He had five, six phase, and he rode it up. And then from there, that's, it become more increasing. Oh, man, you was a bitch. You just, Mark, you just wrote it up.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Niggie, you just got your sack. Let's lunch, took, everything. Like, and then from there, niggas like, what? You did what? Oh, yeah, no, you're fined now. Now it's deeper than just a fade. Now your own is fined take care of you and discipline you. Feel me?
Starting point is 01:29:28 And that's what happened. And then from there, nigga had to discipline his own. You know what I'm saying? And then from there, I told him like, bro, you're gonna, they're like, man, it's,
Starting point is 01:29:38 it's, it's, it's, it's, like, if they, like, running it,
Starting point is 01:29:43 like, they, sometimes they got, I know sometimes, yeah, but they got crips running it in a blood who plays their part
Starting point is 01:29:50 for both cards. And then sometimes it's just be a crypt dorm. Sometimes it'll be a blood dorm. In the beginning of this interview, I did feel like there was a party of you that was kind of like over some of the street shit and ready to, like, be past it. And then I hear this story and I'm like, oh, you love that shit.
Starting point is 01:30:07 No, that don't mean I love it. That's just letting people know what you're getting yourself into trying to be a thug, a thug. Yeah, a criminal. This is what you better be prepared for. This is the real. This is what y'all need to know. You know what I'm saying? Shit, you might have to DP one of your homies.
Starting point is 01:30:26 You know what I'm saying? Or going there and just be a other, a other. Other. Other, yeah. Because I was asking some Cambodian dudes what they, what they claim when they go in there. Yeah, they claim others. We other, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah, they others. But others are still getting into politics, fights, all that. Others can just go straight and be like, oh, I'm with the whites, whatever. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. Like, you can pick who you want to be with, but they can go out of you soon as you walk through the dog. I was interviewing, just, this is more of like a prison thing, but I was interviewing like a white dude who used to be like a, a peckerwood gang leader in jail.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Hey, I don't got any drink. In prison, rather. He can go grab a water, sir. And he told me, though, that if a white dude comes into prison, it doesn't matter if you were a blood for 10 years on the streets. You come into prison. It's like that too for men's skin. And you want to roll with the blacks, but you're white is not happening.
Starting point is 01:31:23 He said it's just impossible. But we can't say that. It's impossible because, I mean, yes, you might have to go up. At least where he was at. No, you might have to go up. Yeah. Like, yeah, instantly. like it might,
Starting point is 01:31:35 it might lead where it's going to go, but it's like that for the Mexicans too who represent black games. They come in there and they let the Mexicans know, like I ain't with, I'm with the blacks. Boom. And then from there,
Starting point is 01:31:46 it's up to them either respect it or trip. Right. You know what I'm saying? And then from there, the blacks are going, they're going to let them know like they're with them. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:56 And then from there, you still going to take your phase rather than you Mexican, black, whatever. Getting your white boys stolen is got to be tough. what is that what is your white boy? You know
Starting point is 01:32:06 like you got you had this dude being a blood for 10, 20 years oh yeah now all of a sudden they got a white dude
Starting point is 01:32:11 with his arm around him that's fucked up yeah damn I'll be like come save me yeah but it's rare
Starting point is 01:32:16 that you're gonna see bloods that's white and crips that's white I know yeah not in L.A
Starting point is 01:32:22 yeah you ain't gonna see that I'm like see that in Corona you know people doing that just for what
Starting point is 01:32:29 they seen on the internet or whatever yeah but we got a couple good ones out there. I hear things. You hear things?
Starting point is 01:32:38 Hey, I wanted to ask you this. You're funny. How do you feel when you see the Kendrick Meryl getting defaced? Oh, man. We ain't going to let one person ruin it for everybody, man. We ain't even acknowledging that, man. We're on something greater, you know.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Like I said, like, you feel? me just because that's just like a nigga on the street. Boom, okay, you know, you see people in these takeovers and they driving and crashing their car. Just because he crashes his car, you want to craft your car?
Starting point is 01:33:13 Like, no. People don't, people don't just following footsteps like that. So I don't see people. But those politics are too real, real to talk about on a podcast? Nah,
Starting point is 01:33:24 I don't think, I'm not, I'm not going to, it just can get too. Yeah. Yeah, like we just, we just on the sum greater and we're not even giving that,
Starting point is 01:33:31 even no attention you know what I'm saying we ain't even shining no light on nobody who on trying to come in uh you know just just trying like like I said build some type of clarity on their stuff uh get some exposure
Starting point is 01:33:49 because they see you going up you should want to support somebody coming out your city and being a voice an idol you feel I mean so shit some Mexicans love all I music. So it's like, it's kind of like, I don't know how they're playing it.
Starting point is 01:34:06 We let them determine how they felt about that. If you, if you support who that individual is, who that idol is, you see, me? So, you know, we're not going to, like I said, we're not going to ruin it for a whole community. Right. Or judge a whole community based on the actions of one. Yeah. Or just, we're just not entertaining that.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Because I saw some people. people on another podcast trying to say that the Mexican podcasters in L.A. should speak out against that kind of thing. I don't think they want that smoke either. They also would rather just, it ain't my side. It ain't me. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Some people know what to, like you said, they know what to deal with and what to leave alone. Right. Some people think about stuff before they do it. Yeah. Some people just do it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Just to test and see what works and what's the office?
Starting point is 01:35:01 kind. To be fair, almost all the murals get vandalized at some point. Yeah, we didn't see it. Yeah. We didn't see it. So ain't nobody excluded from something that's unbeatable, like, unedible, like, you feel me? Like, definitely. All right, I wanted to ask your opinion on this. When we saw the peace march going on and everything, my man, Wack 100 starts getting hit up by people saying, why weren't you there? How you feel about Wack? whack cool whack cool at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:35:35 like I said we're a representation to one another man anything representing power or you feel me anybody coming out right now
Starting point is 01:35:42 the west is up you feel me look at what's going on before the pop-out concert this was going on can you just remind you y'all can you just reminding y'all
Starting point is 01:35:51 that this is going on this is taking place now it's been taking place for a decade now y'all just been silly now y'all just been silly now y'all
Starting point is 01:35:59 Eyes is on the West Coast. Pay attention. You never know what you may see. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's what I think. Like, shit, he plays part. He help out, you know, homies when he can. He didn't did things, put people in position.
Starting point is 01:36:15 So nobody hate that, man. You know what I'm saying? Feel me? Salute to whack. Fuck it. That's good. That people know. They ain't no hatred towards one of ours.
Starting point is 01:36:26 You feel? It's good to hear. Okay. That's cool. Do you want to talk about why me and you unfollowed each other at one point? Go ahead and tell me, man. What the hell? What the hell happened?
Starting point is 01:36:37 I thought you somebody, because look, you know it was a time where people just, like, pages was just unfollowing people. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. So I thought that that's what it was. So you tell me what it was. What I do? You tried to hit me up. There was a video.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Oh, no, we didn't even speak on that. There was a video of a rapper being relieved of his jewelry. And you let me know, hey, I got this. You want to buy this? I said no. So that made you unfollow me? No, I think you unfollow me. I don't think I unfollow me and then I don't follow you.
Starting point is 01:37:04 I never followed you. I never unfollow you. I would never buy anything like that for the record. Nah, like, even if it was like the best of it, even if it was the most famous rapper getting punked out in the most vicious way, I got nothing to gain from being the first one to happen. At that time, you got to understand, man. It's different days when we wake up feeling different ways.
Starting point is 01:37:27 And, you know, sometimes we entertain. wrong things, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's okay to admit that you're wrong and you did, you know, like, that was, that wasn't even smart because now it's exposing other people that's involved and you feel me so. Think about it before you do that type of shit before you put yourself on the forefront and involve yourself in that type of activity. Rather, I wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:37:51 I wasn't there. I had the filmer got DP'd for filming it so badly. I don't know. Someone told me that. I don't know. But that's like, that's pretty epic. I don't know if that's true. That ain't how I got it.
Starting point is 01:38:03 It really was filmed from like a block away. You almost can't tell what's happening. No, nobody. I'm not going to tell nobody my source. I got it. I'm not going to tell nobody. All you got to know is I just don't respect nobody coming out here and acting like they're just big and bad. Like, and making it like, like they could just move around and, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:38:25 Like, and be. like they represent what we represent or trying to be a reflection of us or whatever, not even trying, just they label themselves that. Like, I don't know, like, I just, sometimes I ain't fine to certain things when they come to the, uh, the culture. Like, you know, I can be honest.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I can see. So it was like, yeah, I can keep it real. Like, that was just probably a, uh, shit. I can't even say what I probably was just trying that shit expose them niggins because because I'm gonna keep it real like shit yeah like that shit that shit wasn't really purposely like that it was just to let the world know what's going on behind the scenes that's not being seen you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:39:15 and these people are still fooling y'all like y'all got understand there's people out here really lying and making it seem like they still out here just you know even though it ain't our part to expose nobody is just like I don't know like I can't say like like I said that ain't my part to expose nobody but you coming out here and you rapping about that and I understand how hard it is to to be right here or had that light that spotlight I don't know I just ain't feeling let no nigger come out here and I had a personal altercation that took place that nobody know about so that's another thing that takes place you feel me oh shit you feel me it's like you was some
Starting point is 01:39:57 It was some stuff going on. We don't fig. And I don't know. I'm just here with my little bro. And you know what I'm saying? Stuff's taking place. And I don't understand the whole pimp world. I'm just here with my homie.
Starting point is 01:40:11 You know what I'm saying? I'm just here with my homie. I'm not no pimp. I'm just here with my homie. You feel me? My people, my family. You know what I'm saying? And it's a family member, a homie.
Starting point is 01:40:22 And there's minors out here. Like, I didn't know like it was like that. You know? I ain't know. was my niggas out here advertising as they self as rappers and they pimping minor so that kind of blew me a little bit so and then you respect it a nigga pimping a minor you you you promoting a nigger pimping a minor I don't know how to feel about that you know what I'm saying so that gets way deeper than I thought it was so that's why I reacted like that because we got into it because
Starting point is 01:40:50 he was pimping a minor and his minor was trying to use my boy room with his you know situation or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And that's like the word, I don't know the word, but it's just, it's out of line for a girl to be somebody else. Like when you let somebody pinpoint on you, I ain't going to say you they property or whatever, but for the moment, shit, it's like a temporary property thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:24 Like I'm saying, it's like a temporary property thing. Right. And if you represent, you can't go and just be like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna come be over here with you and yo, your daddy or whatever. A girl can't go do that because she's out of pocket for that. I understand the terms and all that, but she was out of pocket. And then from there, he tried to come defend her out of pocketness. And then from there, that's a recipe for disaster. But I've had multiple people tell me that that's like one of the only rules on a place.
Starting point is 01:41:58 like fig. Oh, I'm but say, this is, this is what took place. Somebody dropped. Somebody got their stuff took from them, and they went in line and said they dropped their stuff. So from there,
Starting point is 01:42:10 you're lying to your homies, and your homies is defending you saying you dropped something, and you didn't. You got it took from you. Sometimes niggas out here get their guns took or anything took. You got to understand that. So I didn't see people go to that, pull up to video shoots.
Starting point is 01:42:28 I don't have a video shoot with somebody and, you know what I'm saying, possibly had a situation like that. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It happens. You can, just because you got the ups on somebody,
Starting point is 01:42:41 don't mean it can't. Some people will reach and try to take it from you if you ain't really built like that. And if you, they're quick enough, they're going to take it from you. They said they're going to clean up fig. Yeah, they should. They should.
Starting point is 01:42:54 But, I mean, I feel like, I don't know, man. It's too, It's too crazy. Like, the way that the world is, this is something going on before our time. So it's like, good luck, clearing it up.
Starting point is 01:43:08 We wish y'all well. We wish y'all well. We wish y'all well. It shouldn't, it's better to leave here anyway if that's what you want to do. Staying here, it's just like being in gang territories and trying to get some money. That's just like hustling.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Hustling and Pippin is the same thing. Right. So sitting in the middle of a whole gang land and now it's just all gangs that's in the mix of it. It's still stuff happening in this gang territory, but it's all about pipping and gang banging. Yeah. So it's like some niggas, once they, I don't know, but most niggas I know once they start pipping and gang banging on more, bro. Right. Facts.
Starting point is 01:43:54 You kind of, you can't do both to the maximum. I think that's just like, you're from where you from, but some niggas, some niggas still game banging. Some niggas is, but a full blown pinpang gang banging. Facts.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Facts. For sure. Okay, I wanted to ask this. There was this whole thing, I don't even know where we should dive in on this, but there was this whole thing. It started with top five, basically saying the him and drink,
Starting point is 01:44:22 him and Drake were going to go through the Not Like Us video and figure out every person. person in the video. Aiden Ross kind of co-signed it. People start threatening them. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Y'all ain't going to touch me in L.A. Fais Banks kind of jumped in for a minute. I don't even know Fais Banks is. I guess people hopped on the phone and they sort of kind of got squashed. But what was your thought process on seeing all that unfold over the weekend? I don't even know. Who you talking about it? You got white streamers.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Who are you talking about it? Canadian demons. Who are you? And they're all mixed. Who are you talking about it? up in the LA gumbo. Who are you talking
Starting point is 01:44:59 about again? Top five. Top lives. Aiden Ross, phase banks. Those are the three main characters as far as
Starting point is 01:45:06 non-L.A. residents. Yeah, man, like I said, we ain't giving these nigs no clarity, man, Adam.
Starting point is 01:45:14 You mean, whatever. I don't know whether. I'm just showing people with love here like right now. Like,
Starting point is 01:45:22 even though whatever narrative they're trying to paint, I'm trying to show people But it is peaceful here. It is love here. We do love ours.
Starting point is 01:45:31 We do love others. You feel me? If we could love another rapper and they can come here and, you feel me? Walk through any time they feel like it. You know what I'm saying? You can get the same treatment. But, you know, some people can be, you know, just come off the wrong way. But like I said, in the end, I'm still trying to show it's love.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Even when they're doing what they're doing, I'm showing this. That's all we want you to show is that is still love. So once you speak out, I'm a stamp that you spoke out and said is love. You know what I'm saying? It's not no issue. So people won't think it's an issue. You know what I'm saying? That's all.
Starting point is 01:46:13 That's all it is. We want people to know it ain't no real issues, bro. I was just, I mean, that ain't, that ain't nothing. So top five will be welcome in Los Angeles right now. You can come to Compton. I don't know. He's child. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Well, he's got to connect now. Like I said, who was the connect? I seen him and AD on FaceTime, so I don't know. I don't know how much of a real connect it is, but. I don't know what's that you talking about. They locked in or something. But who are you talking about? Adi and Adon Ross are the ones who had the conversation, actually.
Starting point is 01:46:46 You're right, yeah. What if I bring Adam Ross to the city and make him stand on his apology? What if that was to happen? Stand on his apology? What do you mean by that? showing that is love. Oh, I mean,
Starting point is 01:46:58 that would be great, yeah. Yeah, I'm saying, like that's all. He's probably happy to tap in. Already,
Starting point is 01:47:03 you must not be tuned in. I already showed the world. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Yeah, so, you know, that's, that's all we just trying to create something, something better,
Starting point is 01:47:13 man, something better. Mm-hmm. I don't want nobody to get hurt. I don't want to see nobody, uh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:47:20 be conflicted from this, like, yeah, like, just go, come here, do what you got to do, go home, be safe.
Starting point is 01:47:28 That's all that's about. I'm trying to prevent other people from, you got to think it's people out here that's crazy. Right. So you never know if somebody else going to fill away. I'm just trying to, I know I'm a spokesman of the community, so I'm trying
Starting point is 01:47:44 to show the community that you have love for the community. Just like Kai Sinatra just came and gave back to the community. People got to understand. We've been giving back to the community before Kajas and I gave back to the community. We do this every year.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Kendry do this every year. But we do it outside of Kendry. We have a group of people who come together and put money together. And I go with support and play my part and hand out stuff to these kids. You know what I'm saying? So that's all like, we don't want these kids to look on the internet and learn from, you know, just the wrong narrative, man.
Starting point is 01:48:24 We're trying to, I want my son to go somewhere and live life. You feel me? Let's show the next generation. You can be something special. You can't have an opportunity and manifest. For sure. You feel me? Now, how deep is that?
Starting point is 01:48:43 No, it's good. For sure. Yeah, people got to learn to manifest, man. Whatever it is you're trying to accomplish. That's why people don't understand. People think I call myself. hitter because I'm a goon. No, I call myself hitter because I'm fighting to achieve.
Starting point is 01:48:59 In a hitter community, a goon territory, whatever. You know, whatever. That's why I call myself hitter because I'm fighting to achieve. So your, is like, hit is like your name and then J3 is like, are you the third? Jay? Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:19 My brother is Big J man. Got it. Little J man. They both caught 25 years. together and J-Man was the rapper who- Prime example of what I'm speaking on, yes. Before I paid attention to people like Kendry and other people on the West Coast,
Starting point is 01:49:35 like I was seeing my brother do it. That's what got me, you know what I'm saying? So that always gonna be my influence and my motivation first. You know what I'm saying? Facts. That's what did it for me. Seeing what my brother went through
Starting point is 01:49:53 was what helped me become who I am. You know what I'm saying? So, like I said, when I was seeing all the stuff going on in Chicago and they was calling their self-hitters, Dirk did the L's up for the hitters. I said, okay, I'm going to put a change on this hitter. And one of my cousins died like 10 years ago,
Starting point is 01:50:16 or a little more years. But he died, and I could have possibly been with him And he told me, like, come ride with him. Matter of fact, he was trying to pick me up. And in the midst of him trying to pick me up, he stopped at his girl he was talking to and got shot to death. And then from there, long little G5, man, long little Jerry Holman, man. That's my big cousin, man.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Tad on my neck. What side? Is it this side? Is it the airplane on this side? Possibly. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a G5, man.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Yeah. A little G5, man. My cousin, man. He was on his way to pick me. up and I always had a problem with this but I'm getting better at it I always had my phone dead so in the midst of my phone being dead he couldn't call me and I left my phone charging and I think like I as I was younger I blamed myself that that happened to him because he would have picked me up that's what I'm saying like when I said it can
Starting point is 01:51:14 take place it can take place he was hitting me up trying to ask me for a EBT card number and pick me up. In the midst of that, I left my phone charging in the barbershop, and he was killed and then I got the call when I went back in the barbershop like, man, they say whoopty-whoop just got. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:51:33 what? And I'm calling him back and he's not answering the phone, and he was trying to pick me up. So I could have been with him. We could have, the girl was going to ride with him to pick me up. And then we was going to drop her back off. What if it took place? When it happened? Because my granny, it's
Starting point is 01:51:49 crazy. My granny used to pray for like 30 minutes. I'll wake up in the morning and come in the kitchen and get something. And my granny would be sitting there on her knees praying. All I hear is her whispering. And I won't make a sound so she know I'm there. She'll just, once she's done, she'll see I'm right there with her. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:52:11 And I'm right there bowing down, praying with her, letting her pray. And then that's how I got, you know, into it. My grandmother was into it. You know what I'm saying? And then, yeah, like, prayer is real. Prayer is real. You talk to God. He's going to show you in ways I can't explain.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Nobody can explain. It's all up to you to express yourself to him and what you're going to do and get through it. And I learned that from my grandmother. And then from there, instead of what I've seen outside, I went with what I was learned in my household and still to this day I'm praying you see me so okay to pray niggick go pray all the niggas need to pray for themselves like kendrick said ain't nobody praying for me my granny prayed for him every day and she didn't did video she I posted a video on my Instagram her saying like hey kentra I'm
Starting point is 01:53:09 praying for you like she didn't heard him say that and was like nah I'm praying for you baby you know what I'm saying and then when she left he signed his album cover and said he loved her and everything you know what I'm saying so that was just a blessing just to you know yeah like you know just to be a part of something like that and have that legacy you know what I'm saying and carry my grandmother's legacy like I didn't call her from the county and prayed to her and she couldn't believe it you know what I'm doing I didn't pray for the family at family guys And they're looking at me, but they ain't knowing I'm studying Granny. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:53:50 So it's like, well, we taught in our household. We ain't taught on outside the door. And niggas got to understand this. Look, man. Can nobody take a walk a half a block in my shoes, Adam? Why you say that? Nobody, you can't. Just been through too much.
Starting point is 01:54:08 You can't, you can't. You can't. You might walk out the door and get smoked. I didn't been outside and seen cars hit the corner. and just so happened to not be seen. And next do you know, the car hit the corner and kill somebody. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:22 And I'm just a kid not wanting to be sitting in the house. So I'm sitting on the porch. I used to sit on the porch and do videos and be rapping and freestyleing. And that's how I started for me. My hood was my support system. My friends was my support system. And from there, I managed to be where I am today. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:54:43 So that's how I started. like I used to just perform at head days. You know what I'm saying? And I had to learn. And he got it's something else out there. So as I was soul searching, yeah, I found myself within first. Yeah, like, yes, it's real out here, man. It's a beautiful thing because it could have been a sad story if you were filming yourself on the porch and some shit like that went down.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Yeah, it's like that. But see, back then stuff wasn't happening like that. people wasn't out here just pulling up rolling up on kids and shooting them I wasn't like that. You think it's more like that now? It's more like that. It was like that probably like a couple years ago. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:26 It ain't like that now, but I didn't, and been people walking from school in our neighborhood and get shot to death. And then been people outside just randomly sitting on their porch and get killed. And it been people, that's why I'm trying to get people to understand. many people sitting in cars and get killed in our hoods or our city and been people coming here to visit and don't make it home you know what I'm saying so that's we're trying to we're trying to just you feel me don't be biased to what you the facts you for real don't be biased stop being biased don't be biased don't be biased with yourself don't be biased with what you're going through what you're seeing nothing what you're seeing is real you're real. So when you see it and you see it taking place to other people, like I just was telling you, my homie, mama, and then my mama. So it's just a, it's a chamber, man.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Feel me? It's like a, it's like a revolver. It's going to spin and it's going to bang. You feel me? Yeah. I didn't see a homie play Russian roulette by themselves. For real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Jesus. with one bullet in the in the in the in the in the in the revolver yes and then the gun lost him and the gun still went off and he like shot itself in the finger like and he had to get rest to the hospital like it wasn't actually pointing at his head and it hit his finger instead people no yes he he had just like he like man I could have killed myself and the gun just went off boom I'm right there with him he just me and him and people it used to be getting drunk drunk. We, like, me, used to be drinking. Boy, I used to be off that Carlo Rossi. I used to be off that, uh, that moscato. I think I used to be damn bad out here, Adam, for real. Like, I used to go in the store and steal every day.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Really? Wow. Food, steaks. And the homies cooking them and we were courting in a closet. In his closet at his apartment. You know what I'm saying? Like, I used to go steal a steak every day and come back and bring it in. and moscato bottles and everything
Starting point is 01:57:41 and go back in the store and steal some more and come back out with more stuff and yeah this is this is for us and the homies you know what I'm saying we don't talk about shoplifting enough I used to be big on shoplifting hey look hey look at the end of the day people just work here
Starting point is 01:57:57 you don't care what's being you know what some people do they got to do their job but they're going to get fired so I get it but I was so smooth boy I get to throwing them in the juts I get to throwing it in it.
Starting point is 01:58:10 This jacket ain't big enough, man. Got all my boy Cardi, man. It's like the crop top, man. You feel me? He said you that? Five. Yeah, this is that. This is an opium garment?
Starting point is 01:58:22 Yes, it's that opium thing. Let me see. Yeah. I can't read that shit on the back. It ain't, it don't, yeah, that's just the logo. It definitely says something. That's like those old death metal logos always were like that. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I'm just starting to be known, man. You're a fashion dude now? you signing the opium? No, that's just my bro. I've been told y'all this, though. Nobody want to listen. Nobody want to listen. I've been telling y'all this is my brother.
Starting point is 01:58:47 But when did you tap in with him? I've been tapped in with Cardi. Cardi been tapped in. The homie, little L brung him around. Really, G. Weed him a little L. And then from there, we locked in and kept in touch. But, yeah, I used to be putting the bottles in the arm part
Starting point is 01:59:04 and walking out through the dough with the big jacket. up out of there quick throw it in the bushes go back in i need more so wait how many times have you actually gone out spent time staying with carding and shit because there was this thanksgiving story about spending thanksgiving with him this one year in Miami where it was like how many times does that happen and what role are you playing in the whole i'm gonna get her i didn't been on the i'm been a he didn't flew me out you know just like had his his manager flew me out but you know what I'm saying. She fly me out to be a part of the shows and everything.
Starting point is 01:59:37 That's my friend. Like, he was my friend before he was big and, you feel me? And I never switched up. You feel me? That's all it is. Some people be temporary. Like I said, I'm going to represent your brand like it's mine. That's all it is.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Like, I'm just showing people with love with, you know, the people that I associate myself with. And I'm a representation of them as well. Regardless, what people say. Right. Yeah. You see, every time I get the chance, I show love to these individuals. Mazis, my brother, locked in. Mix tape on the way.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Mix tape on the way. I'm working on a live instrument album right now. Meet the whoops. We're working on the album right now. Mike drop before the year in it. Meet the whoops. Yeah, man, we got a surprise for y'all. Shout-out hit boy.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Yeah, we got a surprise for y'all, though, man. But yeah. Shout out, hip-boy. Yeah, then I'm working on the Ruprint album. The Rupert. I got the Rout print, the live instrument album, the Mazzie Collab Project, you know. I like that song with you and Selly Roo, the Rupert's song. The Routon, guess what?
Starting point is 02:00:51 The rest of the album is not a split project between you, though, is it? Oh, my goodness. Is your project? It's not a split project. It's my project. It's my brother. He's going to let me do my thing, but I'm still do whatever I can. to be equal, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:01:06 But just to show you I'm a real member, man. Oh, that's it. I'm going to show you I'm a real member. This is just for you to see. See, having two phones must be so confusing. You've got to pull out one, and then you put the next one. You're like, which one is? It is.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Nah, that was, that song right there. I was like, damn, I got to listen to Sally Room more. That's a good song. No, that's my boy. That's my boy, but we got something. Hit a J3 RuPrint remix featuring. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:01:39 A couple of high profile. Yeah. And some more. And some more of that. And some more of that. So y'all see what's going on? Like it ain't just one individual that I'm surrounding myself with and embracing. Right.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Like I treat everybody equally. I don't pick and choose. You know what I'm saying? Like, so wait, I messed up the story. I said, I don't know how I like misunderstood what you were saying.
Starting point is 02:02:04 But I said Cardi is doing a video in Compton with Kendrick. Few people jumped on that, I reported it. But you actually said Cardi was coming to do a video. I'm going to give you, big, gee, it's just been too much going on. So we don't know. We're going to hold that from you. We're going to hold that from y'all now. Since y'all, everybody wouldn't be so negative, y'all got to be patient and get the good stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Okay. Yeah, but, yeah, that's my brother, though, man, all red. All red. I ain't even going to say. All red on the way, though. Regardless, if I'm there, I don't even care. I'm just supporting my brother. All red, movie on the way.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Right. You know what I'm saying? All right. Last question. Why do you think Kendrick hates Drake so much? You don't. That was just a rap. That was just a theme between two,
Starting point is 02:02:59 two rappers. Competitive artists. Yes. Two competitive artists. That's all that. with you're telling me there's no deep-seated animosity there no so when he's telling him that he's not really black and he's a culture vulture and he's destroying the culture and he's a pedophile and he doesn't really respect women and that's all just you got to think man it's some music
Starting point is 02:03:23 entertainment we got to learn to separate we got to learn to separate entertainment in business right in politics it's three different things because not like a does have a lot of allegations that don't really seem like they panned out. We're still looking for the secret daughter. We got a daughter. I'm not, I'm not doing this. Push a T. He got a W. I'm not doing this is real.
Starting point is 02:03:46 You ain't never seen that movie or the movie. I'm not going. I'm not going. No, I'm not. I respect it. I don't know nothing. But yeah, man, that's just, yeah, I got to understand, man. I never would have thought.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Like, for once, can't something just be about hip-hop? rap and battle? Can it just once be, you see a none sick place, so let's just be thankful that this is, it's a, we break in the cycle. Got shot outside Drake. That wasn't, that has nothing to do with what we got going on. That has nothing to do. That could be some, some politics and love to.
Starting point is 02:04:25 This is a battle, though, where we kind of knew from the very beginning that this was not going to be decided on like who was the best rapper. It was going to be about character assassination. the rules were Well, well, one minute One minute the world claims, oh, yeah, they're not a fan You gotta do what you got to do To get the people ears and eyes
Starting point is 02:04:46 Hey, that's all it is, that's all it is We can say that the internet is a weapon now Y'all say anything, it's cool So now somebody says something all year Now everything is truthful and harmful And everybody's taking that offensive Man, get out your feelings, anybody. Get out your feelings
Starting point is 02:05:05 Get out your feelings Get in your bag Get some ice You feel me Cause y'all ain't icing yourself Like niggas out here On phone calls Talking about
Starting point is 02:05:16 Oh yeah he iced me out And man Ain't nobody icing nobody out Bro Niggas dude But ain't nobody Trying to brag about that Yeah
Starting point is 02:05:26 Like I didn't gave Homies chains And never talked about it You know what I'm saying Facts You got a know the difference between trying to get cloud off of niggas and just
Starting point is 02:05:38 supporting your niggas. You feel me? I don't even know who you're talking about, but if another man ices me out I'm not a South Central baddie. Nobody's icing me out. I'm sorry. Man, the nigga, yeah, somebody's just like, you can give somebody a chain. People be
Starting point is 02:05:55 brag. You can't buy me a whole kit. Yeah, people be bragging about the wrong things. People be bragging about the wrong things. People be bragging and don't even got life insurance policies. People be bragging and don't even have a car. People don't even know what it was like to have a home in their name. People don't know what it's like to even maintain a phone bill.
Starting point is 02:06:17 People don't know what it's like to have real priorities and responsibilities. That's what you got to prepare for. Prepare for what life really has to offer. Being a man, being a woman, whatever, being an adult. stepping up to the plate, taking matter in your own hands. That's what life is about. That's what we got to,
Starting point is 02:06:41 we got to preach that more about just for the world to know, like, y'all need to, yeah, y'all need to start taking some notes and trying to get yourself together, man. But on another note, meet the whoops.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Meet the whoops. Albums on the way. Shout out of my brother, Yass, man. He just had a tragedy situation. One of his, one of his brothers you know we all brothers so when one lose a brother we all fell for one another so one of his brothers just had uh um you know a situation that took place you know and check on your
Starting point is 02:07:17 people's man you never know what they're going through man you never know so just check on y'all people's check on y'all folks always tell them y'all love them you never know when they ain't gonna be here no more yeah so that's what's going on with my brother man i send my love to my brother and i hope you to it. You feel me? And yeah, man, that's just shine light on the West Coast a little more. You feel me? Let's get this shit popping, man. My bro, Wally's just went on tour with Future.
Starting point is 02:07:43 And pay attention what's going on after the pop out. Firm. HB. K. Jachi, Peso. Smoney. See, at their game. Yeah, Yabi. All that. Man, everybody ain't turning the streets up. Y'all see that something pretty with
Starting point is 02:07:59 Mazzi. A lot of people forget. The hottest new rapper in the game is also emerging from the West Coast. And you're sitting at the table with him right now. Boom. Oh, rapper 22. You heard of my new shit? I'm about to play for you. Man, you know I did. No, you ain't heard the release. Hey, shout out
Starting point is 02:08:15 Drex to joint though, man. That's a gunplay. Young Threat, Hood, trophy, Bino, keeper hood. Producers, man. My bro. Fated. Greg. Cypress Marino. Run that back west. They ate the game. You feel me? We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we,
Starting point is 02:08:33 I'm showing love, man. Let's turn the West Coast back up, man. Ketland, for real, for real. The Cuzzos. Yeah. Shout of the Cuzzos. I'm a big Drex guy, though. I think Drex going all the way of the top.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Who else? Who else? Who else we're showing a lot to? Man, we just shining light on each other, man. My crazy road. Yeah, go tune to my little brother. Like, it is. We got potential out here.
Starting point is 02:08:56 Shit y'all don't see. Yeah, man. Y'all got to tune all the way in, bro. Facts. Shout out my man. the J-3. I appreciate you coming through. Yeah, I appreciate you too, man. Spitting that shit.
Starting point is 02:09:06 We finally got a chance to shit down. Hey, you niggas ain't got no jumper. Hey. Bitches fucked up in the crib looking like Brian Pumper. Hey, how are you going to say? How are you going to say that? And you f***ing with Brian Pumper. I never fucked up.
Starting point is 02:09:25 You just came out and said you want to help him. So why are you going to say that now? I don't think I can help them because that's going to fuck up my name in the porn game. Hey, Adam came around saying, man, hey, hey, man, you better get with me, man. I'm going to help you out, man. I'm going to help you. All right, so the way, so the same way Adam is talking, y'all, don't take nobody serious.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Same way he can do it. We can do it.

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